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NBA Draft Betting Preview with Brandon Anderson · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just trying to keep busy chat. I literally
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Speaker 2: just to keep busy. I'm like, I'm exploring I'm also like,
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Speaker 1: I did see your volcano post in your stories.
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Speaker 2: Yeah it was crazy people. Somebody asked him what it
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Speaker 2: and I promised when we go see the volcano, guess
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Speaker 1: Soon enough, Simon, it'll be football season. Thank god, We'll
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Speaker 1: violence on Victor wembin Yama.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, Look, this guy is the the most hyped
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Speaker 3: NBA prospect that we have seen, at least since Lebron James.
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Speaker 3: Maybe you've heard of Lebron maybe ever like we have.
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Speaker 3: We have the wild hype out here. We've got like,
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Speaker 3: here's some of the hype that we're seeing. We've got
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Speaker 3: Mike Schmidz calls Wemyama the best prospect he's ever evaluated.
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Speaker 3: This is his life's work. Is he evaluating prospects? Women
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Speaker 3: now number one all time? We got woj calls lemen
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Speaker 3: Yama the greatest prospect in the history of team sports.
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Speaker 1: Let me just say one thing. He said that. He
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Speaker 1: said that the night of the draft Lotter, he was
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Speaker 1: on set with Richard Jefferson and Malika, and he said this,
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Speaker 1: and it was such hyperbole and it was so over
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Speaker 1: the top. I swear to God, I saw Richard Jefferson
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Speaker 1: just shaking his head like I cannot believe this guy's
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Speaker 1: saying this right now.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the hyperbole, the hyperbole is ridiculous. But
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Speaker 3: then you watch Lemen Yama play and you're like, oh
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Speaker 3: my gosh, what am I watching right now? We have
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Speaker 3: created like a two K player and then made him
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Speaker 3: an actual, real life player. He's seven foot four. He
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Speaker 3: has an eight foot wingspan. Like picture two park benches
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Speaker 3: right next to each other. This guy just reaches his
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Speaker 3: hands out and touches the ends of both park benches.
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Speaker 3: That's the wingspan we have. He's a ten foot standing reach.
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Speaker 3: That means flat foot under the basket. Just touch the ram,
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Speaker 3: no problem, just touch the ram. I cand do that
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Speaker 3: out here like Ridigbert, the guy that miam Minnesota Timbrels
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Speaker 3: traded away like a thousand picks and all their players
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Speaker 3: for last year five inches shorter standing reach. This is
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Speaker 3: the center like many time Defensive Player of the Year women,
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Speaker 3: Yama's five inches taller standing reach, but on offense, he
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Speaker 3: looks like Kevin Durant. We have this like seven foot
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Speaker 3: four dude dribbling between his legs, bring the ball up
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Speaker 3: the court, taking step back jumpers, taking one legged step
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Speaker 3: back threes. Like what are we watching? It's impossible not
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Speaker 3: to see that happen and be like, I don't know
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Speaker 3: what this player is. He could be, Woj said, And
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Speaker 3: I think that same quote that he thinks, he said,
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Speaker 3: executives tell him three years from now that Wemenyama will
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Speaker 3: be the best offensive and defensive player in the entire
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Speaker 3: league at that point. So this is the guy going
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Speaker 3: number one minus one hundred thousand right now to go
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Speaker 3: number one to the Spurs. So we know that that's
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Speaker 3: different than a usual draft. But that's where we start
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Speaker 3: with things. For sure, I.
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Speaker 2: Love everything about the NBA draft, especially the stupid hype.
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Speaker 2: That's that's the best part. I mean, what was it
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Speaker 2: three four years ago, Zion was the best prospect ever
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Speaker 2: and it turns out he's addicted to porn stars. But
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Speaker 2: I don't think Victor's gonna be the same way. He
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Speaker 2: seems like he's more adult like. But you know, it's
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Speaker 2: just this is the this is the beast that the
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Speaker 2: NBA is right. The NBA is all about the new toy.
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Speaker 2: It's about the next guy, and everyone's been waiting for
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Speaker 2: that Lebron replacement. I just I just don't see it
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Speaker 2: here this kid. I get the hype and I get
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Speaker 2: the love, but especially after reading your article, there's just
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Speaker 2: a lot of little red flag with him. Other than
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Speaker 2: the fact that this guy looks like he weighs one
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Speaker 2: hundred pounds soaking wet. Again, he could put on the
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Speaker 2: body weight, but we saw Durant adjusted to it, right.
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Speaker 2: Durant never got Jack, never got big. He adjusted to
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Speaker 2: the league and made his body perfect for what the
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Speaker 2: league is, which is he's long, he's lean, but he
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Speaker 2: isn't people put weight into him, right. I think that's
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Speaker 2: something Victor's got to learn to play with. So I
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Speaker 2: love everything you're saying right now. It's also one of
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Speaker 2: those where I feel like we're on the same page
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Speaker 2: of fade this kid, Like this is one of these
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Speaker 2: things we have to kind of fade him. We don't
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Speaker 2: want to fade him, right, but we kind of have to,
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Speaker 2: just because this is like the craziest hypever. I just
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Speaker 2: want to get your level of have you ever remember
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Speaker 2: seeing a player hyped like this. I mean again, I
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Speaker 2: said the Zion thing. Zion was kind of like a
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Speaker 2: mystical thing, right, it was like this guy dominated college
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Speaker 2: at Duke, busted out of his shoe. I've been hearing
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Speaker 2: about Victor for man. It might be three years now,
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Speaker 2: four years, Like I remember seeing his little film playing
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Speaker 2: in France or maybe Spain when he was like, I
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Speaker 2: don't know, sixteen fifteen. Is this like the last of
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Speaker 2: this dying Reid?
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Speaker 1: Right?
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Speaker 2: Is this the last of these hyped European players or
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Speaker 2: is this about to be a pipeline thing where we
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Speaker 2: just see it year after year there's these great players
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Speaker 2: going from Europe.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, we have right now NBA champion
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Speaker 3: Nikola Jokic out of Serbia. Everyone wants Jokic. Right now,
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Speaker 3: we have NBA champion Gianni Sanda Dea Kumpo. We have
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Speaker 3: NBA MVP Joel Embiid, like all the faces of the
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Speaker 3: NBA right now, MVPs champions and Joel Embiid, all of
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Speaker 3: them are these euro guys that we want to get.
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Speaker 3: Luka Doncic, euro player from Slovenia probably the next one
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Speaker 3: on that list at some point and so I think
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Speaker 3: that has to be helping right now. It's really interesting
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Speaker 3: to me. A year ago in the NBA draft, we
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Speaker 3: had a guy named Chet and he was this skinny
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Speaker 3: dude out of Gonzaga. Tall, skinny guy, blocked a lot
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Speaker 3: of shots, could dribble, bring it up the court, shoot threes,
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Speaker 3: and everyone was like, I don't know, man, white, skinny
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Speaker 3: dude from Minnesota named Chet doesn't feel like an NBA
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Speaker 3: star to me. Now we got Mistique, we got Victor
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Speaker 3: Wembinyama from France, and we love our euro players. Like
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Speaker 3: I think, if this was like a few years ago
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Speaker 3: and we didn't have the Janis and Jokic and all
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Speaker 3: the stuff that's been happening already, I feel like this
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Speaker 3: would be in a different spot. So I think that's
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Speaker 3: playing into the hype. The mystery actually is part of
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Speaker 3: the intrigue right now. It's hard to look. My article
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Speaker 3: is called Confessions of a Victor Woman. I'm a skeptic,
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Speaker 3: so I'm the foremost skeptic here. As the skeptic in
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Speaker 3: my article. Things I compare him to people I compare
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Speaker 3: him to are evolutionary. Kevin Garnett my favorite player of
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Speaker 3: all time in my Twitter avatar Kevin Garnett top twenty
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Speaker 3: player of all time. In my opinion, I compare him
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Speaker 3: to evolutionary Bill Russell, who is like the greatest winner
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Speaker 3: in NBA history, only I think, like twelve and one
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Speaker 3: in the NBA Finals. I'm the skeptic, and these are
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Speaker 3: the comps I have to come up with. Are these
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Speaker 3: sort of guys. So I think, to me, it's less
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Speaker 3: fade Victor. It's more fade the hype, which is a
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Speaker 3: little bit more nuanced in that way. But I think,
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Speaker 3: to me, the way to fade the hype in the
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Speaker 3: immedia future is you can better right now in Rookie
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Speaker 3: of the Year. And I think Victor, even if he
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Speaker 3: is all the things we expect to be, you talked
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Speaker 3: about the size, the thin frame, that's gonna take some time,
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Speaker 3: right It's gonna take some time to add muscle, NBA strength,
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Speaker 3: find the game, find the role, get the right guys
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Speaker 3: around him. You're gonna need some strength around him. You're
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Speaker 3: gonna need the right guys to get him the ball.
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Speaker 3: And I think that he's not necessarily gonna like run
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Speaker 3: point on the offense, so you need to feed him
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Speaker 3: the right path, get the right shots up. Scoot Henderson,
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Speaker 3: guy that's gonna go sacond or third in the draft.
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Speaker 3: Point guard. He is gonna have the ball in his hands.
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Speaker 3: He has been playing in G League for two years already,
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Speaker 3: so he's been playing pro ball, running a professional offense already,
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Speaker 3: putting up seventeen points, five boards, seven assists. He's a
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Speaker 3: guy that's ready to come in and in many other
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Speaker 3: drafts where we didn't have women, Yama who absolutely should
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Speaker 3: be number one. Despite my skepticism, you gotta take him
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Speaker 3: number one. That's clear. In many other drafts, Scoot Henderson
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Speaker 3: would be the number one pick. So I think Scoot
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Speaker 3: comes in. We don't quite I know what team he's
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Speaker 3: going to be on yet, but I think he's going
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Speaker 3: to be the guy that wins Rookie of the Year.
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Speaker 3: He's gonna put up the numbers. Rookie of the Year
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Speaker 3: is not about advanced stats and defense and winning. Like
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Speaker 3: my research is just basically says, take the guy out
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Speaker 3: the numbers. I think Scoot's going to have the numbers.
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Speaker 3: I think Victor's numbers are going to come and go
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Speaker 3: a little bet he's going to have nights. We picked
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Speaker 3: up that injury in the first quarter and then they're like,
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Speaker 3: you know what, let's play it. Say if you're out
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Speaker 3: for tonight, or we got those two fouls in the
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Speaker 3: first minute or two because he's reaching over guys or
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Speaker 3: something like that. Scoot, I think is going to play
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Speaker 3: and get the numbers plus four point fifty at bet
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Speaker 3: three sixty five. I think it is a good number
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Speaker 3: for Scoot. That was my bet in the article. That's
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Speaker 3: the way I'm fading one Binyama right now.
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Speaker 1: So you made a really interesting point in your story
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Speaker 1: about the season long stat line these guys generally need
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Speaker 1: to have to win Rookie of the Year. This year,
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Speaker 1: there's an added twist because there's a sixty six game
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Speaker 1: minimum for people to be eligible for the awards. So
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Speaker 1: give me your take on why when bin Yama will
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Speaker 1: likely not put himself in a position to win Rookie
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Speaker 1: of the Year because of the game minimum and because
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Speaker 1: of the stat line. And I can tell people what
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Speaker 1: that stat line generally needs to be sure.
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Speaker 3: So fifteen points a game is kind of the bare minimum.
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Speaker 3: All about one of the last two decades of Orkies
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Speaker 3: of the Year, I've had at least fifteen average is
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Speaker 3: about eighteen points a game. There even more than points
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Speaker 3: points plus rebounds plus assess. If you bet NBA props,
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Speaker 3: you bet the PRA. You're familiar with that one points
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Speaker 3: rebounds and assess minimum Since Lebron, all but two rookies
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Speaker 3: of the year twenty five or higher points rebounds assess,
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Speaker 3: and more lately it's closer to thirty the last like
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Speaker 3: six guys are averaging over thirty points rebounds assess. So
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Speaker 3: Matt Moore and I over at Buckets Podcast argue about
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Speaker 3: this all the time. Really, you're gonna really bet rebounds.
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Speaker 3: That's why someone wins Rooki year. It doesn't win one
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Speaker 3: of these awards. Really, yes, because a lot of times
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Speaker 3: voters just look at numbers and they're like, oh well
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Speaker 3: this sixteen seven and two versus seventeen five and seven.
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Speaker 3: We all grew up reading baseball cards and looking at numbers,
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Speaker 3: like we know instinctively as a fan, which one of
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Speaker 3: those number lines stands out. Voting is subjective. This stuff
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Speaker 3: actually does matter to voters. So I think for women Yama,
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Speaker 3: he has right now, I believe, the highest usage rate
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Speaker 3: in European history. I don't think that is going to translate,
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Speaker 3: at least right away to the NBA usage means you're
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Speaker 3: the guy. You're the guy getting the shot up or
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Speaker 3: getting the assists, your guy at the ball. I think
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Speaker 3: it's going to be start at least as more of
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Speaker 3: a play finisher. Scoot is going to get those shots up.
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Speaker 3: I feel like, like I said, seventeen five and seven
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Speaker 3: for Scoot, that's the points, rebounds, assists, those were his
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Speaker 3: g League numbers, that those are not just made up,
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Speaker 3: that's literally his line as a professional the last two years.
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Speaker 3: Seventeen is right in line with those points per game,
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Speaker 3: Teen five and seven are right in line with points
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Speaker 3: rebounds assess. For Victor, we don't know his numbers in France,
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Speaker 3: don't necessarily know if they'll translate, so I think that
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Speaker 3: he ends up something more like sixteen seventeen points. Maybe
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be shocked to see him not even hit
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Speaker 3: that fifteen points per game mark. The rebounds, he has
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Speaker 3: a very high center of gravity, as you can imagine,
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Speaker 3: as this giant man is very high hips he gets
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Speaker 3: pushed around a little bit. Again, he's to had some strength,
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Speaker 3: so he's gonna be tall in your rebounds, but he's
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Speaker 3: gonna get pushed off a little bit. I think he's
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Speaker 3: going to get too many assists. He's a nice passer,
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Speaker 3: but that's just not a role he's going to have.
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Speaker 3: So if he's at like sixteen seven and two, you're
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Speaker 3: barely getting to these marks that we're seeing over the years.
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Speaker 3: And maybe the hype is enough to make up for that.
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Speaker 3: But the other side of it is the Spurs really
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Speaker 3: betting against wenby Rookie of the Year for me is
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Speaker 3: a little bit betting on the Spurs. San Antonio has
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Speaker 3: been an awesome franchise for decades now. They've had David Robbin,
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Speaker 3: They've had uh, you know, Tim Duncan. The wild thing
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Speaker 3: is women Yana might not even be like a top two,
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Speaker 3: number one pick for the Spurs. These are the guys
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Speaker 3: he has to go against, right Like, that's no shame
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Speaker 3: to maybe have to measure up to David Robinson and
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Speaker 3: Tim Duncan. But I think the Spurs are gonna be
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Speaker 3: very careful with him. We saw last year Chat Holmgreen,
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Speaker 3: who I mentioned haven't played yet in the NBA. He
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Speaker 3: missed his entire rookie season. He picked up a foot injury.
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Speaker 3: They cautiously weighed out the whole year. The Spurs are
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Speaker 3: a smart, smart team. They're gonna play this the long game, right.
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Speaker 3: The Spurs don't really care if Victor Remenyama gets a
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Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year trophy. The Spurs want to win
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Speaker 3: five championships. Like Tim Duncan dead, They're gonna play two
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Speaker 3: decades with whom Mignana they hope. They don't need to
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Speaker 3: get him to that sixty sixty five whatever games. Uh.
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Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be a guy getting load management
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Speaker 3: right away, like the way that we see with Lebron,
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Speaker 3: with Kawhi some of the older players. I think we're
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Speaker 3: gonna sit Womenyama on back to backs every now and then,
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Speaker 3: and when he picks up that inevitable injury, not even
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Speaker 3: just because he's injury prone, just because everyone gets an injury.
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Speaker 3: I think they give him a couple of weeks. Take
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Speaker 3: your time, buddy, it's a long game. We're not going
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Speaker 3: to win the title this year. I don't even know
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Speaker 3: that they make the playoffs. Usually hype rookies like this, don't.
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Speaker 3: I think they take their time. They let him set
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Speaker 3: out a little bit. This is developmental, but all that
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Speaker 3: means you miss a few weeks with an injury, you
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Speaker 3: miss a few games for load management. Suddenly now you
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Speaker 3: might play fifty fifty five sixty games. You might not
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Speaker 3: even be eligible. Those rules are still a little bit
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Speaker 3: up in the air right now. But also voters can
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Speaker 3: see that as well, even if the rules don't qualify it.
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Speaker 3: If Scoot plays seventy and has better numbers and Victor
18:44
Speaker 3: plays fifty or sixty games and the numbers don't stack up,
18:48
Speaker 3: I just think Scoot could be the guy that comes
18:49
Speaker 3: away as the winner there.
18:51
Speaker 1: Chet home Ron is so interesting to me because it
18:54
Speaker 1: has kind of been forgotten that he didn't play last year,
18:57
Speaker 1: and because of that he is elible for Rookie of
19:01
Speaker 1: the Year this year. Where would you stack his odds
19:06
Speaker 1: in terms of value compared to Webben Yama, compared to
19:09
Speaker 1: Scoot Henderson. I love Chet. The other day someone said, Hi,
19:13
Speaker 1: who's the best player in the NBA? And he said,
19:15
Speaker 1: in two months, it'll be me. Like, the guy is
19:17
Speaker 1: not lacking, He's got a ton of swag. What do
19:21
Speaker 1: you think of his numbers right now? I think he's
19:23
Speaker 1: probably plus five hundred.
19:26
Speaker 3: I think yeah, I think I've seen Chet even as
19:28
Speaker 3: long as like six fifty seven hundred some books. It's
19:31
Speaker 3: those three. Really, those are the three guys, which makes sense.
19:35
Speaker 3: Another number from my article is basically just overwhelmingly top
19:39
Speaker 3: three draft picks win Rookie of the Year. And even
19:42
Speaker 3: among that, almost fifty percent of all the rookie of
19:45
Speaker 3: the year in the last like two decades have been
19:47
Speaker 3: the number one pick. Daw, we know who the best
19:49
Speaker 3: player is. They go number one to a bad team
19:52
Speaker 3: that puts them in. We saw last year Paula bon
19:55
Speaker 3: Cairo number one pick one rookie of the year, chat
19:57
Speaker 3: Holmgren win the top three last year, so he qualifies
20:01
Speaker 3: under that. We have four top three picks this year
20:03
Speaker 3: because of that. So I love chet the prospect. I
20:08
Speaker 3: was very high on him. He's number one on my
20:09
Speaker 3: board last year. I don't want any piece of chet
20:13
Speaker 3: holm Grin for Rookie of the Year. Has nothing to
20:15
Speaker 3: do with the fact that I like, nothing to do
20:18
Speaker 3: with this prospect. It is all the things we said
20:21
Speaker 3: about women Yama are true and truer of chet hoolm Grin.
20:25
Speaker 3: The body is still going to take some time. Probably
20:27
Speaker 3: a little better now than it was a year ago,
20:29
Speaker 3: but it's going to take some time to get there.
20:31
Speaker 3: He's definitely not a guy who's going to run point
20:33
Speaker 3: or play with the ball in his hands. He's going
20:35
Speaker 3: to be a play finisher. He's going to get some
20:37
Speaker 3: of that foul trouble. He surely is going to get
20:41
Speaker 3: load managed and miss some injury time. He just missed
20:44
Speaker 3: an entire season. Okay, see another very smart patient organization.
20:49
Speaker 3: So I don't think Chet is going to have the numbers.
20:53
Speaker 3: When guys like me log into Basketball Reference and pull
20:56
Speaker 3: up the bpms and vorps and schwarps and all the
20:58
Speaker 3: advanced stats, I'm gonna be the one on the podcast
21:02
Speaker 3: saying guys, Chet should be Rookie of the Year. Look
21:05
Speaker 3: at the advanced metrics. He's amazing. Voters don't vote on
21:08
Speaker 3: that stuff. Voters want numbers. That's what we've seen. So
21:12
Speaker 3: I think Chat and Victor will be really good rookies.
21:15
Speaker 3: I think Scoot Henderson will have numbers and be pretty
21:18
Speaker 3: good and be Rookie of the Year.
21:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of drama, A lot of questions ually
21:23
Speaker 2: from our amp lists. Shout out to all our amp lists,
21:25
Speaker 2: especially h Bone, big big fan of h Bone. What's
21:29
Speaker 2: the drama right now between the number two and number
21:31
Speaker 2: three pick? I feel like that's really where this draft
21:34
Speaker 2: gets going right. I feel like everyone's been talking about
21:37
Speaker 2: the two and three pick. They've been flip flopping. I mean,
21:40
Speaker 2: chatter knows why. I like Scoot. I mean, how can
21:42
Speaker 2: you not love a guy with the named Scoot? And
21:45
Speaker 2: I think, what is it? Brandon Miller? The other guy
21:48
Speaker 2: ed one of the worst quotes I've ever seen, ever
21:51
Speaker 2: seen in my life. If someone's your favorite player, you
21:53
Speaker 2: don't call them the goat. You just say that's my
21:55
Speaker 2: favorite player. So someone asked him, is Lebron James the
21:58
Speaker 2: goat or Michael Jordan? He said, either, my goat is
22:02
Speaker 2: Paul George. I couldn't believe that. The interviewer just let
22:05
Speaker 2: that go. This kid might be an idiot, but he's
22:09
Speaker 2: looking like he might be going number two.
22:10
Speaker 1: Overall.
22:11
Speaker 2: What's your view on the number two and number three pick.
22:12
Speaker 2: We've seen some crazy movement here in the last twenty
22:15
Speaker 2: four hours.
22:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, the line movement has gone heavily towards Brandon Miller
22:20
Speaker 3: being number two to the Charlotte Hornets. Right now, it
22:23
Speaker 3: was something like minus two hundred as I went to
22:25
Speaker 3: bed last night. It's up closer to minus five hundred. Now.
22:28
Speaker 3: We're moving strongly in the range now where it looks
22:30
Speaker 3: like Miller is likely to pick. But you guys, remember
22:34
Speaker 3: a year ago we did this at the top of
22:36
Speaker 3: the draft when min Yana's number one. Forget about it,
22:39
Speaker 3: pretend number two was number one. That's where the draft starts.
22:42
Speaker 3: Last year, we had Paolo von Carroll was not supposed
22:46
Speaker 3: to go number one with Jabari Smith I think something
22:49
Speaker 3: like minus one hundred thousand the day before the draft
22:52
Speaker 3: to go number one, and then started coming down minus
22:54
Speaker 3: sixty thousand, minus twenty thousand, got to like minus thirteen hundred,
22:59
Speaker 3: and then there was another tweet right before the draft,
23:01
Speaker 3: like a couple hours before that, that said, okay, you
23:04
Speaker 3: know the sources said no, it's Jabbari Jabari's number one,
23:07
Speaker 3: and the line sha right back up again. This the
23:10
Speaker 3: thing with the NBA draft that's different than than betting
23:13
Speaker 3: on a game, or even betting on NFL draft. It's
23:17
Speaker 3: all information. It's all intel information and misinformation, and one
23:22
Speaker 3: guy's information coming out feeds the next mock draft, feeds
23:25
Speaker 3: the next report and the next Everyone wants credit, right,
23:28
Speaker 3: So you got to be really careful about who you're
23:30
Speaker 3: getting your your tweets and your sources from, not just
23:33
Speaker 3: the guy with like the misspelled letter in the name.
23:35
Speaker 3: So it's a fake version, but different sources are getting
23:39
Speaker 3: the same text from the same agents and the same sources. Charlotte,
23:42
Speaker 3: of course, is all reporting right now. All reporting is
23:45
Speaker 3: saying Charlotte wants Brandon Miller, the wing out of Alabama,
23:48
Speaker 3: shoots the ball well, good size, sort of guy that
23:51
Speaker 3: every NBA player, you know, every every NBA team would want.
23:54
Speaker 3: Paul George is a good count for him. That's who
23:56
Speaker 3: I would compare Brandon Miller too, so sure it can
24:00
Speaker 3: be his goat. I guess, horrendous quote. I don't know
24:02
Speaker 3: what you're doing there. Scoot Henderson is a face of
24:05
Speaker 3: the franchise sort of guy. He's a leader. He played
24:09
Speaker 3: in the fall. He played against Wim and Yama. There
24:11
Speaker 3: is this two game series and Scoot is a six
24:14
Speaker 3: to two point guard and he went right at the
24:16
Speaker 3: seven to four dude. Now he got blocked, but he
24:19
Speaker 3: went right at him. He got that dog in him right,
24:22
Speaker 3: like he fights. He plays hard, athletic Derrick Rose sort
24:26
Speaker 3: of player. So to me as a scout and from
24:30
Speaker 3: a lot of the draft twitter that I've seen, Scoot
24:32
Speaker 3: is the guy that is number two and really number
24:35
Speaker 3: two in a tier of his own. Brandon Miller doesn't
24:38
Speaker 3: seem like the guy there. But the Hornets have a
24:41
Speaker 3: point guard already, so there's a lot of talking like, well,
24:43
Speaker 3: do you do you draft for fit or do you
24:45
Speaker 3: draft for need? An NFL draft you if you have
24:49
Speaker 3: a quarterback, great, well we're not going to take one
24:51
Speaker 3: of the quarterbacks. Maybe we trade out. The NBA is
24:53
Speaker 3: more fluid because you just put these five guys out there.
24:56
Speaker 3: Scoot Henderson could play with LaMelo Ball they get both played. Yeah,
25:00
Speaker 3: you're gonna have two guys run point a little bit
25:02
Speaker 3: and share the duties. You might actually be better off
25:04
Speaker 3: that way. You can play multiple wings, three four of
25:07
Speaker 3: them sometimes like Brandon Miller. So to me, that's where
25:10
Speaker 3: things start. The drama is this Miller is not necessarily
25:16
Speaker 3: the guy that's number two overall, but expected to go
25:18
Speaker 3: number two. Right now, Portland sits at number three. Portland
25:22
Speaker 3: doesn't want Scoot Henderson necessarily, it seems, because he's a
25:26
Speaker 3: point guard. Portland has a superstar point guard, Damian Lillard.
25:30
Speaker 3: Jamian Lillard just coming off of one of his best seasons.
25:33
Speaker 3: He doesn't want to bring in, you know, a nineteen
25:35
Speaker 3: year old point guard to sit behind him and come
25:37
Speaker 3: off the bench. He wants to win. He wants to
25:39
Speaker 3: go win right now. So that's the drama. Is Portland
25:43
Speaker 3: would like to trade that pick for Paul George is
25:46
Speaker 3: one of the rumors that's come out for Zion Williamson. Possibly.
25:49
Speaker 3: These are some of the names being rumored. Matt Moore
25:52
Speaker 3: is an article oup at Action Network with some of
25:54
Speaker 3: the Portland rumors. But it's really fascinating that if Miller
25:58
Speaker 3: does go number two, like the I would suggest right
26:01
Speaker 3: now that puts Portland, it kind of corners them and
26:05
Speaker 3: they're stock quote unquote with the guy that most people
26:08
Speaker 3: would want to have anyways in stut Henderson when they
26:11
Speaker 3: really would like to trade and get some veteran help
26:13
Speaker 3: trade out. If they do take Scoot, that might be
26:16
Speaker 3: the next domino that we spend the next week talking about. Okay, well,
26:20
Speaker 3: here comes that trade with cuss from Damian Lillard, and
26:23
Speaker 3: now where's he going to go? Is he going to
26:25
Speaker 3: go to the Heat or the Lakers or the Clippers
26:27
Speaker 3: or something like it? That that In the NBA, it's
26:31
Speaker 3: almost as much fun in the offseason as it is
26:33
Speaker 3: in the games. Just watching all the hype and where
26:36
Speaker 3: the players all go. So it's tough to bet on it.
26:39
Speaker 3: You got to get the intel and you got to
26:40
Speaker 3: act fast. But that's what the drama looks like at
26:42
Speaker 3: two and three.
26:43
Speaker 1: Right now, I feel like someone like the Bulls, and
26:48
Speaker 1: I read Matt's sort of intel reports. There's been a
26:52
Speaker 1: lot of conversations about zach Lavine being on the market.
26:56
Speaker 1: The Bulls should go all in, get rid of zach Lavine,
27:00
Speaker 1: send him to Portland for a bushel of players and
27:04
Speaker 1: that number three spot, and get Scoot Henderson and start rebuilding.
27:12
Speaker 1: Not even a rebuild, you get Scoot Henderson, you PLoP
27:14
Speaker 1: them in there. That could be a team that has
27:18
Speaker 1: much higher ceiling in the long run.
27:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there are a lot of veterans like that.
27:23
Speaker 3: I would love to see the Chicago Bulls hit the
27:26
Speaker 3: rebuild switch. But I've been waiting for that for a
27:29
Speaker 3: few years now, and they kind of keep doubling down
27:31
Speaker 3: and tripling down, trading for Boots, trading for DeMar DeRozan.
27:35
Speaker 3: So there are a lot of names out there, and
27:37
Speaker 3: the question for a lot of these teams is you
27:39
Speaker 3: see Denver, you see what they can do and win
27:41
Speaker 3: the championship. Can we beat them? Can we be that
27:44
Speaker 3: level of team? And if we can't, then where are we?
27:47
Speaker 3: Because for the Bulls, for example, they were a few
27:50
Speaker 3: minutes away from beating the Mammy Heat and knocking them
27:53
Speaker 3: out of the play in and out of the playoffs entirely,
27:56
Speaker 3: and then the Heater in the finals. So if you're Chicago,
28:00
Speaker 3: which version of reality do you accept? Do you accept
28:02
Speaker 3: the one that says, well, we almost beat the Heat,
28:05
Speaker 3: maybe we would have made the run of the finals.
28:07
Speaker 3: That's delusional. You should not accept that reality. But you
28:10
Speaker 3: could try to tog yourself into that or you could accept, well,
28:14
Speaker 3: we should have not even been in that position. Let's
28:17
Speaker 3: trade our guys. Let's trade Levine, Let's get that haul.
28:20
Speaker 3: Get these you know, huge swing of first round picks,
28:22
Speaker 3: and you know there's a difference between we're giving you
28:26
Speaker 3: two picks, three four picks versus this is the number
28:29
Speaker 3: three pick. And in reality, if it's Scoot, it's kind
28:32
Speaker 3: of like the number one pick. You don't get to
28:34
Speaker 3: trade for the number one pick in a draft that
28:36
Speaker 3: level of prospect, that guy is not available, Like the
28:40
Speaker 3: Spurs are not taking offers for one Minyama. There's there
28:42
Speaker 3: are no offers. No, they've disconnected the phones, they've left
28:47
Speaker 3: the facilities. They're out partying, celebrating the future with him.
28:51
Speaker 3: I think Scoot is not that, but it's the sort
28:54
Speaker 3: of guy that you if he's possibly available, you find
28:58
Speaker 3: a way to make the offer for for me, a
29:00
Speaker 3: long shot bet if you want here. I still think
29:03
Speaker 3: Scoot could be in play to go number two just
29:06
Speaker 3: because of the trade value. Maybe only offer comes in
29:09
Speaker 3: for Charlotte. I like and drafts to bet on uncertainty.
29:12
Speaker 3: I like Brandon Miller to go number four in the
29:15
Speaker 3: draft because if he's not number two, everyone agrees Scoot
29:19
Speaker 3: two or three for sure, not everyone agrees Brandon Miller
29:22
Speaker 3: is that same level or the next guy to go
29:25
Speaker 3: number four is twenty five to one right now at
29:28
Speaker 3: bet three six y five. If you think that there's
29:30
Speaker 3: a little bit of uncertainty there, if he doesn't go
29:32
Speaker 3: number two, then maybe he slips a little bit further
29:36
Speaker 3: than people think. So I like to bet on some
29:38
Speaker 3: of these long shots. You guys know, I'm a long
29:40
Speaker 3: shots guy. I think that's one that if things slip,
29:42
Speaker 3: it could end up hitting.
29:44
Speaker 2: You can remember last time the Blazers passing a guy
29:47
Speaker 2: just so that the uh not the Bearriers that Chicago
29:50
Speaker 2: can move in and take a guy that they didn't
29:52
Speaker 2: need because I already have the position filled. So, as
29:54
Speaker 2: someone that secretly loves the Blazers, I always wish the
29:57
Speaker 2: best for the Blazers just because their fans are amazing.
29:59
Speaker 2: I mean Dame time in that playoff series when he
30:01
Speaker 2: hit that overtime shot and the whole crowd went wild,
30:04
Speaker 2: it was just like, God, I want Portland to get us,
30:06
Speaker 2: get you know, a world championship man. When I hate
30:09
Speaker 2: this move for them, it's it's just it's terrifying to
30:13
Speaker 2: think that they have a high draft pick like this
30:15
Speaker 2: and they're gonna keep on trying to make it work
30:17
Speaker 2: with Dame. Trade Dame to the Sixers. Please let this
30:20
Speaker 2: guy go somewhere else and get a ring. It's not
30:23
Speaker 2: happening in Portland. I'm I'm a big believer, and they
30:25
Speaker 2: need to start over. I feel like Scoot would be
30:28
Speaker 2: the perfect player for them to start over with. Like
30:29
Speaker 2: I feel like everything you just said so true. Where
30:32
Speaker 2: this kid, you'll grow with him and you'll be the leader.
30:34
Speaker 2: And he's the point guard and he's a dog. He's
30:36
Speaker 2: just such a dog like if you watch his film,
30:39
Speaker 2: like you said, he wouldn't right at Victor. There's no
30:40
Speaker 2: one that's too big for him. There's no any fears,
30:43
Speaker 2: And I love that for kid coming in the NBA.
30:44
Speaker 2: He really reminds me of another style. Is not the
30:47
Speaker 2: exact same, but he reminds me of d Wade at Marquette.
30:50
Speaker 2: D Wade played with the same style. He really throw
30:53
Speaker 2: his body at guys. You'd always go really hard the hoop.
30:55
Speaker 2: So Brandon, just looking at everything we just talked about.
30:59
Speaker 2: If we see Scoot go number two, is that a
31:02
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan pick? Is that the rumors we're hearing out
31:04
Speaker 2: of Charlotte that he's still the one making the pick.
31:06
Speaker 2: So I just want to hear your opinion. Would that
31:08
Speaker 2: be a Michael Jordan pick? Or is there someone gets
31:11
Speaker 2: come in the last minute Charlotte might trade that number
31:13
Speaker 2: two pick. Do you think anything like that's gonna happen?
31:15
Speaker 2: Or is this going to be Charlotte Charlotte's pick at
31:18
Speaker 2: number two?
31:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's wild to me that. Yeah, we saw news
31:21
Speaker 3: today that Michael Jordan apparently gets final say on the pick.
31:24
Speaker 3: What are we doing, Michael Jordan has sold the team
31:27
Speaker 3: and been horrendous owning the team. It's why we're like,
31:31
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan is the goat. Michael Jordan's the guy, but
31:35
Speaker 3: not as an executive, not as an owner. I don't
31:38
Speaker 3: know why you'd possibly let mj have the final say
31:40
Speaker 3: on it. To me, despite that, it's either Charlotte stays
31:45
Speaker 3: at two and takes Brandon Miller. That seems like the
31:47
Speaker 3: thing that that's the intel we've seen all along. I
31:50
Speaker 3: don't think Charlotte takes Scoot. We just haven't seen them
31:53
Speaker 3: in love with him. We've seen from the night of
31:55
Speaker 3: the lottery that Miller is their guy. If they stay,
31:58
Speaker 3: if it is Scoot at two, I think it has
32:00
Speaker 3: to be a trade. I think it's that New Orleans
32:03
Speaker 3: or one of these other teams. Toronto has been interested
32:06
Speaker 3: teams trying to trade in. We have not heard any
32:09
Speaker 3: rumors about TMX is interested in trading up for Brandon Miller.
32:13
Speaker 3: No rumors of that. Everybody wants to trade for Scoot.
32:16
Speaker 3: Take the hint, Charlotte, what are you deal with me?
32:18
Speaker 3: Like when everyone wants the same guy, maybe take the guy.
32:22
Speaker 3: Take the Michael Jordan of the draft, not not the
32:24
Speaker 3: Sam Bowie, but you know it's Charlotte. As part of
32:28
Speaker 3: the fun of these drafts is you get to bank
32:30
Speaker 3: on some of these teams being well teams to bet
32:32
Speaker 3: against as well.
32:34
Speaker 1: Well, here's what's interesting. If you look back in history,
32:38
Speaker 1: the Blazers Sam Bouie or Michael Jordan, they take Sam Bouie.
32:43
Speaker 1: Sam Bouie has a history of injury problems, never becomes
32:49
Speaker 1: the player, right they have the chance, Greg Oden or
32:52
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, they take Greg Oden, history of injury problems,
32:56
Speaker 1: never becomes a great player. Kevin Durant, Michael Jordan obviously
33:00
Speaker 1: have become who they've become. This year, the Blazers are
33:04
Speaker 1: in a position where they don't get the option to
33:07
Speaker 1: choose between a potentially generational talent whose body type historically
33:13
Speaker 1: breaks down, whether it's Greg Odin, Sam Buie, Yao Ming,
33:19
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, Chet Holmgren, like, the evidence for people like
33:25
Speaker 1: that being able to maintain health for a consistent period
33:28
Speaker 1: of time in the NBA is clearly against him or
33:31
Speaker 1: Scoot Henderson, who everyone loves. It would be a consensus
33:34
Speaker 1: number one just it would be poetic for the Blazers
33:39
Speaker 1: to be able to get Scoot Henderson because they can't
33:42
Speaker 1: make the wrong choice. Do you know what I mean?
33:44
Speaker 1: Between when Ben Yama and Scoot Henderson, they just get
33:47
Speaker 1: the guy who is the obvious guy to take if
33:50
Speaker 1: they're lucky enough to take them before we let you go.
33:55
Speaker 1: I would be remiss and Matt Mitchell would kill me
34:00
Speaker 1: if I didn't bring up the fact that there is
34:03
Speaker 1: a duo known as the Thompson Twins. And we don't
34:08
Speaker 1: mean the eighties pop band with seven top forty hits
34:15
Speaker 1: that might sing a song whose chorus goes, We're talking
34:38
Speaker 1: about the Thompson Twins. Brandon Anderson. What are we doing
34:41
Speaker 1: with those two?
34:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, these are the mystery guys in this draft. These
34:44
Speaker 3: are identical twins six foot seven, seven foot wingspand they're
34:48
Speaker 3: elite athletes. Aman Thompson is expected to be something like
34:53
Speaker 3: a top five athlete in the NBA instantly the moment
34:56
Speaker 3: he gets drapped, Like that's the level of athletes we're
34:58
Speaker 3: talking about. Asar Thompson, the twin brother like identical twins,
35:03
Speaker 3: Like actually impossibly frustrating to watch tape of and Scout
35:08
Speaker 3: because you have to watch the jersey number, so you're
35:10
Speaker 3: like same thing same look, same style of play, the
35:14
Speaker 3: way that they dribble, the way that they shoot. It's
35:17
Speaker 3: so much as similar here. What's wild is we got
35:20
Speaker 3: Victor the guy overseas. We've got Brandon Miller, We've got
35:24
Speaker 3: you know, he played in college. Even Scoot Henderson g League.
35:27
Speaker 3: We can watch those games on ESPN, on streaming whatever.
35:31
Speaker 3: The Thompson Twins played in overtime elite. This is a
35:34
Speaker 3: non collegiate league. This is guys. A lot of them
35:37
Speaker 3: are like sixteen, seventeen, eighteen year olds. The Thompson Twins
35:40
Speaker 3: are twenty. So we have these hyper athletic twenty year
35:43
Speaker 3: olds mashing against sixteen year olds. What do we do
35:47
Speaker 3: with that? Like, I know what to tell of the
35:49
Speaker 3: tape of that? Like great, So go to the park
35:53
Speaker 3: and find some twenty year olds and have them team
35:56
Speaker 3: up against some sixteen year olds and see who play
35:58
Speaker 3: is like who comes out ahead? Like the athleticism difference
36:01
Speaker 3: in body type and age of a four year swing
36:04
Speaker 3: at that age is massive. So how do we evaluate that,
36:07
Speaker 3: especially when our Thompson Twins, these guys, by the way,
36:10
Speaker 3: are going to be almost certain top ten, possibly both
36:13
Speaker 3: top five. That's the guys we're talking about here. Overtime
36:16
Speaker 3: elites never had a player in their program drafted before.
36:19
Speaker 3: They're supposed to have multiple. Last year, none of them
36:21
Speaker 3: made it into the draft, even the second round. So
36:25
Speaker 3: what do we do. We haven't seen them really have
36:28
Speaker 3: a real competition the last couple of years. We haven't
36:31
Speaker 3: really seen them have great coaching necessarily or great development
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Speaker 3: during these critical years. Amen is the guy that has
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Speaker 3: the highest ceiling. He's possibly his favored right now to
36:41
Speaker 3: go number four to the Houston Rockets. A SAR is
36:44
Speaker 3: more of a wing player. Amen might be like a
36:46
Speaker 3: Ben Simmons, the kind that actually played the good Ben Simmons,
36:50
Speaker 3: the where he plays defense and passes uses his height.
36:53
Speaker 3: That's kind of what he is. But like Ben Simmons,
36:56
Speaker 3: the reason that comp is there is because neither of
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Speaker 3: these guys shoots the ball at all. Is really rough
37:01
Speaker 3: looking right now, and shooting can be developed and come around,
37:04
Speaker 3: but tough to make your franchise pick the top five.
37:07
Speaker 3: I'm a guy that just can't shoot all right now.
37:10
Speaker 3: A SAR has the higher floor to me, he's the
37:13
Speaker 3: safer choice. He to me, is a guy that has
37:16
Speaker 3: the more NBA ready role. He's more of a wing.
37:18
Speaker 3: He's more of a complimentary player. He moves the ball along,
37:21
Speaker 3: plays defense well, defense with the team really well. I
37:25
Speaker 3: like to me the fact that Asar has more range
37:30
Speaker 3: of outcomes in the draft. Aman Thompson, think about Ben Simmons,
37:34
Speaker 3: if that's sort of player, He's like, you have to
37:36
Speaker 3: have a very specific team. Simon knows you've got to
37:39
Speaker 3: have the right dudes around Ben Simmons for that to work.
37:43
Speaker 3: And I'm not talking about the injuries and all the
37:45
Speaker 3: stuff now good Ben Simmons needs the right guys around
37:49
Speaker 3: him because if you can't shoot in the modern MBA
37:51
Speaker 3: and you're not a center, everything has to be perfect.
37:54
Speaker 3: Amen has very specific teams he can go to or
37:56
Speaker 3: teams that might like him. I think Asar plays for
37:59
Speaker 3: any team is like Brandon Miller. He's a wing. He's
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Speaker 3: a wing that goes out and does all the things
38:04
Speaker 3: that you need. So they're fun. We don't know what
38:07
Speaker 3: they are. They're guys that we're gonna want to watch
38:09
Speaker 3: in Summer League, for sure. A bet I like again
38:12
Speaker 3: betting an uncertainty. Almand is the guy that has rumored
38:15
Speaker 3: to go fourth, possibly fifth, possibly even could be something
38:18
Speaker 3: you trade up for I'm gonna bet against it. I'm
38:21
Speaker 3: gonna bet on a Sar to go ahead of almend
38:23
Speaker 3: bet on the Thompson twins. It's plus two to seventy
38:26
Speaker 3: five right now at bet three six five. I'll bet
38:29
Speaker 3: on the guy that has less of a hype, but
38:32
Speaker 3: many of the scouts feel like he's the more ready
38:34
Speaker 3: player and a guy that fits rosters just much more easily.
38:38
Speaker 3: So I don't know about the Eighties band. I can't
38:41
Speaker 3: bet on them either way, but I like Asar. I
38:44
Speaker 3: like him a little better than Almen. I think he's
38:45
Speaker 3: a safer place. So plus two to seventy five to
38:47
Speaker 3: go ahead of Almond. It's my final long.
38:49
Speaker 1: Shot for the podcast today, all right, So before we
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Speaker 1: let you go, recap Scoot Henderson to win Rookie of
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Speaker 1: the Year plus four fifty eight bet three soon fading
39:01
Speaker 1: Victor Brandon Miller surprise go number four twenty five to
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Speaker 1: one at bet three sers five, And now Asser A
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Speaker 1: Sar Asar Thompson Sar Thompson plus two seventy five to
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Speaker 1: go before his brother. Let's do a lightning round. Give
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Speaker 1: me some lightning round bets before we let you go.
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Speaker 3: All right, So I'm giving out all long shots if
39:26
Speaker 3: you want a shorter, more certain hit. One of the
39:29
Speaker 3: best over runners I like on the board is Gig Jackson.
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Speaker 3: Over twenty six and a half, so in draft terms,
39:35
Speaker 3: that means picks twenty seventh or lower. G Jackson reclassified
39:39
Speaker 3: as one of the youngest guys in draft at South Carolina.
39:42
Speaker 3: He is young, and he looked the part. He played young.
39:45
Speaker 3: He played immature. He got benched for a stretch of
39:48
Speaker 3: the season, and he had a lot of bad body language.
39:51
Speaker 3: And he's had a lot of rough interview process as well,
39:53
Speaker 3: And that stuff matters this time of the year for draft.
39:56
Speaker 3: You're interviewing, you're interviewing for a job position. I don't
39:59
Speaker 3: think it's got of all f for him. His agent
40:01
Speaker 3: also is an agent that has no other NBA players
40:05
Speaker 3: currently right now. That matters too. You need to get
40:07
Speaker 3: the phone call, you need the connection. So I'll bet
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Speaker 3: the over on him. It's minus one sixty, but I'll
40:12
Speaker 3: drink the juice on that one. I said last long shot,
40:15
Speaker 3: But let me give you my longest long shot here,
40:18
Speaker 3: Jordan A. Walsh to go first round. If you can
40:21
Speaker 3: still get it thirty to one, I think I see
40:23
Speaker 3: it right now. With that, BET's three sixty five is
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Speaker 3: sixteen to one. Get the longest number you can. Jordan Walsh,
40:29
Speaker 3: to me, other than the centers, is the best defender
40:32
Speaker 3: in the draft. He's from Arkansas, huge wingspan, reminds me
40:35
Speaker 3: of kind of Andre Guidala, guy that can defend maybe
40:38
Speaker 3: all five positions on a court. He can't play offense
40:41
Speaker 3: at all, does nothing on offense right now, So that's
40:44
Speaker 3: why stock is low and why he's not potentially a
40:46
Speaker 3: first round pick. He doesn't shoot, doesn't really dribble that well.
40:50
Speaker 3: So guys are like, well, he plays defense, but we
40:53
Speaker 3: don't have a role for him an offense. This is
40:54
Speaker 3: not the NFL. You got to play both both ways.
40:57
Speaker 3: You don't get a sub off halfway down the court.
40:59
Speaker 3: But those sort of guys, if you get the right
41:02
Speaker 3: fin sometimes your defense is good enough, especially on the ball,
41:05
Speaker 3: like Walsh could be. You find a way and look
41:08
Speaker 3: at the past couple NBA champions, Denver Nuggets had Bruce Brown,
41:13
Speaker 3: a guy that nobody could find a spot for, and
41:16
Speaker 3: Denver found a spot saying, hey, you know what, defend
41:19
Speaker 3: cut to the basket fit in our system. We got offense.
41:22
Speaker 3: Nikola Jokic he'll do the rest. Just watch for the ball.
41:26
Speaker 3: Can you make it a layup and dunk the ball?
41:28
Speaker 3: He'll find you. Look at the Golden State Warriors have
41:32
Speaker 3: had Gary Payton in a role like that, have had
41:35
Speaker 3: Andre Wadal a late career, Andreig Goodala doesn't have much offense,
41:38
Speaker 3: and Draymond Green who doesn't have really any shooting in
41:41
Speaker 3: your offense. They find the ways to give these guys
41:44
Speaker 3: a role enough and then keep their defense on the court.
41:47
Speaker 3: So Jordan Walsh thirty to one, sixteen to one, whatever,
41:51
Speaker 3: the longest number you can get. I've seen him linked
41:54
Speaker 3: to Denver, by the way, and just before we came on,
41:57
Speaker 3: like half an hour ago, the Denver Nuggets just made
42:00
Speaker 3: a trade. They traded up from the second round. They
42:03
Speaker 3: now have the number twenty nine pick in the first round.
42:06
Speaker 3: They're one of the teams that has been linked to
42:08
Speaker 3: Jordan Walsh. There's starting to be some breadcrumbs there. This
42:11
Speaker 3: number is getting shorter. I've seen it as short as
42:13
Speaker 3: six to one some books. So he's a guy that
42:15
Speaker 3: I like a lot, and I think that's my other
42:18
Speaker 3: favorite long shot on the board here.
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Speaker 1: All right, Brandon Anderson excellent season with the NBA. We're
42:26
Speaker 1: giving you a little bit of time to think before
42:29
Speaker 1: we get into the NFL. Simon, I don't know about you.
42:34
Speaker 1: I feel fully prepped.
42:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, fired up for the draft.
42:38
Speaker 1: I am fired up for the draft. I'm going to
42:40
Speaker 1: be there tomorrow night. I'm going to be there. Oh yeah,
42:43
Speaker 1: I'm going to go.
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Speaker 2: Got the action pass on your neck.
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Speaker 1: I guess it will say action, Yes, it will. I'm
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Speaker 1: you know, I don't actually I don't know. I don't
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42:53
Speaker 1: I'm an invited guest of the NBA, so I don't
42:56
Speaker 1: know if there's like a special VIP entrance for me
43:00
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