Latest / Brian Thomas / Judge Napolitano - The Coming Constitutional Ice Age
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- 0:23Speaker 2: Six p thirty one, fifty five KRS detalk station. Of course,
- 0:25Speaker 2: he's referring to Judge entered Apoloitano. Every morning Wednesday at
- 0:29Speaker 2: eight thirty we get to hear from the judge and
- 0:31Speaker 2: a constitutional protector. He is welcome back, you're honor. It's
- 0:34Speaker 2: always a pleasure to have you on the fifty five
- 0:36Speaker 2: KRS morning show. He's tapping, he's he can't hear us. Joe,
- 0:43Speaker 2: all right, he's gonna have to call, Oh, hell's bells.
- 0:46Speaker 2: How is it? That's always ends up happening. So Judge
- 0:49Speaker 2: or Joe, you want to get him on the phone,
- 0:51Speaker 2: please as soon as possible, and we'll see if we
- 0:53Speaker 2: can't work this out. It's always troubling when this happens.
- 0:56Speaker 2: I definitely was going to ask him about the terrorf situation,
- 0:58Speaker 2: because of course that's a constitution. Unless you as framed
- 1:00Speaker 2: by Congressman Massy. But we also have this whole idea
- 1:04Speaker 2: of administrative warrants versus judicial warrants, and he's talked about
- 1:08Speaker 2: that before in connection with the demands that the Democrats
- 1:11Speaker 2: are seeking to get the government reopened. They want judicial
- 1:15Speaker 2: warrants only, and the judges comment about that many times before.
- 1:19Speaker 2: So we're gonna hear a little bit about that in
- 1:21Speaker 2: context of his column tonight, the Coming Constitutional Ice Age.
- 1:25Speaker 2: Judge endedapoltanic. Can you hear me?
- 1:26Speaker 3: Now? Yeah, they hear you, and that Brian and I
- 1:29Speaker 3: see you. I see you through the wizardry of the
- 1:33Speaker 3: digital system, but I hear you through an old fashion.
- 1:35Speaker 2: So well, the crazy, it is crazy. I don't know
- 1:38Speaker 2: how we always stumble into these problems, but we'll blame
- 1:40Speaker 2: the gremlins and my conspiracy theory. Audience are probably suggesting
- 1:44Speaker 2: maybe some left wingers out there, or people who don't
- 1:49Speaker 2: like Congressman Thomas Massey or you and your positions on
- 1:51Speaker 2: the Constitution are sabotaging the segment. Anyway, your column tonight
- 1:55Speaker 2: comes out at midnight, the Coming Constitutional Ice Age Congress
- 1:58Speaker 2: A Massy kind of stumble little on this in the
- 2:00Speaker 2: context of a question. I asked him about his vote
- 2:02Speaker 2: on tariffs, and he said, well, the Constitution's very clear
- 2:05Speaker 2: tariffs are the power of Congress, not for the president.
- 2:08Speaker 2: You to latterly wage, and he is not in favor
- 2:12Speaker 2: of Donald Trump's tariffs. Have you and I talked about
- 2:14Speaker 2: this before. I don't recall that this subject matter has
- 2:16Speaker 2: come up, and I apologize if it has your honor,
- 2:18Speaker 2: but your position relative to the tariffs, which the Supreme
- 2:21Speaker 2: Court's got a case in front of it right now,
- 2:24Speaker 2: I wish.
- 2:25Speaker 3: The Supreme Court would rule. We keep hearing rumors that
- 2:30Speaker 3: there are colossal battles going on in the Supreme Court
- 2:34Speaker 3: over this. Congressman Massey is one hundred percent correct. A
- 2:39Speaker 3: tariff is a tax. It's a sales tax and co
- 2:42Speaker 3: only Congress can impose taxes. It's the very first authority
- 2:47Speaker 3: given to the Congress in the Constitution. The president can't
- 2:50Speaker 3: impose them on his own. Presidents have imposed tariffs, but
- 2:54Speaker 3: only when Congress has expressly authorized them to do so.
- 2:58Speaker 3: Congress has never authors President Trump to impose tariff. In fact,
- 3:03Speaker 3: the statute on which he realies doesn't even mention tariffs.
- 3:07Speaker 3: The President's argument is that tariffs are an instrument of
- 3:11Speaker 3: foreign policy, and foreign policy is exclusively an executive function.
- 3:17Speaker 3: But the sounder argument is the Congressman Massy argument, the
- 3:21Speaker 3: one that was held up by the Trout Court and
- 3:24Speaker 3: the Appellate Court, and the one that I think of
- 3:27Speaker 3: the Supreme Court will hold up as well. But as
- 3:30Speaker 3: I said, we're still waiting for a ruling to come down.
- 3:33Speaker 2: Well, I guess the way I see it, having worked
- 3:36Speaker 2: with at least Trump and his actions on tariffs, he
- 3:39Speaker 2: imposes our love he's of tariff, or threatens one and
- 3:41Speaker 2: uses that threat as a vehicle to negotiate some foreign
- 3:46Speaker 2: policy agreement with a foreign nation. So it became the
- 3:50Speaker 2: motivating factor for some foreign land to engage in a
- 3:53Speaker 2: foreign policy discussion. But you're saying that that's like an
- 3:56Speaker 2: original sin. You can't do it in the first place.
- 3:58Speaker 2: Therefore it doesn't act as a event threat to the
- 4:00Speaker 2: foreign country.
- 4:02Speaker 3: Yes, yes, nicely put. And of course he's also done
- 4:04Speaker 3: it for very petty and personal reasons. When the governor
- 4:13Speaker 3: general or prime minister I'm not sure what his title
- 4:16Speaker 3: is of Quebec ran a television ad of Ronald Reagan
- 4:22Speaker 3: lasting tariffs. Trump got so angry that he raised tariffs
- 4:28Speaker 3: on Canada. I mean, this type of presidential mercurial personal
- 4:35Speaker 3: behavior with respect to the taxes that people paid. These
- 4:39Speaker 3: taxes are paid by Americans was never contemplated or authorized
- 4:44Speaker 3: anywhere in the Constitution or in Supreme Court jurisprudence. This
- 4:49Speaker 3: isn't even a close call in my view, nor was
- 4:52Speaker 3: it a close call at the trial court. Troldcourt in
- 4:55Speaker 3: this case is not a jury. It's a panel of
- 4:57Speaker 3: three judges. Then there's the appellate panel. The trout Court
- 5:02Speaker 3: was unanimous against it. The appellate panel was seven to
- 5:05Speaker 3: four against it. Now it's been before the Supreme Court
- 5:09Speaker 3: since September. Here we are in February and we don't
- 5:12Speaker 3: have a ruling yet.
- 5:13Speaker 2: Fair enough, pivoting over to constitutional issue number two, declarations
- 5:17Speaker 2: of war, we seem to be all ready to I mean,
- 5:20Speaker 2: we've amassed a massive force to deal with Iran. Obviously,
- 5:23Speaker 2: Donald Trump is endeavoring to get some concessions from Iran
- 5:26Speaker 2: regard to their missile plans that they don't want to.
- 5:28Speaker 2: They say they won't concede an inch on missiles. So
- 5:31Speaker 2: we seem to be the stalemate with Iran. But the
- 5:33Speaker 2: implicit threat behind all this is the massive armada of
- 5:36Speaker 2: US military hard where that's floating around very close, and
- 5:39Speaker 2: the veiled threat that Donald Trump's gonna unleash what seems
- 5:42Speaker 2: to me to be an actual outright declaration of war
- 5:45Speaker 2: talking about regime change, unlike perhaps a contrast some may
- 5:50Speaker 2: make like a single military strike on nuclear facilities to
- 5:53Speaker 2: maybe rid the world of an impending nuclear threat. But
- 5:56Speaker 2: this is sounds to me like literally all out war,
- 6:00Speaker 2: which I would argue, and I think you may feel
- 6:02Speaker 2: the same way. We'll find out that Congress needs to
- 6:04Speaker 2: be involved.
- 6:06Speaker 3: Could not be clearer. The president wages the wars that
- 6:11Speaker 3: Congress declares he can't invade another country in tending to
- 6:17Speaker 3: bring about regime change, to change the government effectively. That's
- 6:21Speaker 3: why we fought the Nazis, not to kill the German people,
- 6:24Speaker 3: but to change the government. You can't do these things
- 6:28Speaker 3: under the Constitution without a declaration of war from Congress.
- 6:31Speaker 3: He couldn't care less. Look as we speak, he may
- 6:34Speaker 3: be getting ready to bomb Mexico. Now I'm not exaggerating.
- 6:39Speaker 3: The FAA just ordered all aircraft away from the El
- 6:44Speaker 3: Paso region because of an impending emergency. Now, what the
- 6:48Speaker 3: heck could that be? Other than maybe drum strikes on
- 6:51Speaker 3: cartels in Mexico. That's called an invasion. It Congress authorized that,
- 6:58Speaker 3: of course not.
- 7:00Speaker 2: And constitutional issue number three in the subject matter of
- 7:03Speaker 2: your column, the coming constitutional ice age back to the
- 7:06Speaker 2: concept of administrative warrants versus judicial warrants. You're on record
- 7:10Speaker 2: previously judicial warrants are obligated under these circumstances. Administrative warrants
- 7:14Speaker 2: are a sort of whole cloth creation, the idea that
- 7:17Speaker 2: a federal agent can authorize the entry into someone's about
- 7:21Speaker 2: or building absent a judicial review with probable causes required
- 7:25Speaker 2: by the Constitution. Something in your article, though I wanted
- 7:28Speaker 2: you explain to my listeners because I know they're going
- 7:30Speaker 2: to read it. You start a paragraph, it's eight or nine.
- 7:34Speaker 2: Entering the United States illegally is a federal crime. Next paragraph,
- 7:39Speaker 2: Entering the US illegally and remaining here beyond the time
- 7:41Speaker 2: limits imposed at the time of entry is not a crime.
- 7:44Speaker 2: Can you explain the distinction between those two if you
- 7:48Speaker 2: don't mind, sir.
- 7:50Speaker 3: Well, Congress has not characterized overstaying your permit as a crime.
- 7:57Speaker 3: That's a civil wrong. Therefore, no judge would sign an
- 8:02Speaker 3: arrest warrant for anybody, which is why they've created this
- 8:06Speaker 3: administrative warrant nonsense, so that they can arrest these people.
- 8:10Speaker 3: So somebody comes here on a student visa, they finish graduating,
- 8:15Speaker 3: they don't return the visa is expired. They get married,
- 8:19Speaker 3: they have children, they have a job, they have grandchildren,
- 8:23Speaker 3: they've been here for thirty years, they pay taxes, they
- 8:25Speaker 3: have a Social Security number, They don't vote, and not
- 8:28Speaker 3: an American citizen. Their spouse is, their children, are their
- 8:32Speaker 3: grandchildren are? Can they be arrested? No, but I will
- 8:38Speaker 3: arrest them anyway. They can't be arrested because no judge
- 8:40Speaker 3: would sign an arrest warrant because that is not a crime.
- 8:44Speaker 3: The crime is the illegal entry. They entered legally. Overstaying
- 8:50Speaker 3: your legal entry is a civil wrong, like failing to
- 8:54Speaker 3: shovel your sidewalk or paying your taxes too late. These
- 8:58Speaker 3: things are wrong, but they're not criminal. Therefore they can't
- 9:02Speaker 3: be the basis for an arrest. Therefore, ICE has made
- 9:06Speaker 3: up its own rules so that it can arrest these people.
- 9:10Speaker 3: It's rules in utter contravention of the clear language of
- 9:13Speaker 3: the Constitution. Until yesterday, actually until Friday, this was all
- 9:19Speaker 3: ICE nonsense. On Friday at United States Court of Appeals
- 9:24Speaker 3: ratified it. That's two judges sitting on the fifteen judge
- 9:29Speaker 3: Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit. I would imagine.
- 9:32Speaker 3: I know that this will be appealed. I don't know
- 9:34Speaker 3: what the Supreme Court.
- 9:34Speaker 2: Will do with it, probably an on bank review first
- 9:37Speaker 2: before it goes up to the Supreme Court.
- 9:40Speaker 3: Will this is the most conservative court in the Union,
- 9:45Speaker 3: But I mean one of these, some of these the
- 9:49Speaker 3: conservative judges have a libertarian or a constitutionalist strain in them,
- 9:55Speaker 3: even though they've been appointed by Donald Trump and I've
- 9:57Speaker 3: not gone along with this nonsense. To the extent that
- 10:01Speaker 3: this will tee up the concept of administrative larrance for
- 10:04Speaker 3: the Supreme Court finally to rule on That's a good thing.
- 10:08Speaker 3: But to the extent they might be ratified, it would
- 10:12Speaker 3: utterly fly in the face of the Fourth Amendment.
- 10:15Speaker 2: Excuse me. Judging of Paulton. Will always appreciate your stage
- 10:18Speaker 2: wisdom and well your commitment to the Constitution the United
- 10:22Speaker 2: States of America. Who's on the program today? Judging Freedom?
- 10:25Speaker 2: Judging of Poulton is podcast which I'll encourage my listeners
- 10:27Speaker 2: to check out as well.
- 10:29Speaker 3: I have two of my superstars Scott Ritter and Professor
- 10:33Speaker 3: Jeffrey Sachs. How soon will Trump do what Benjamin Etsigna
- 10:39Speaker 3: who has come here to ask him to do, which
- 10:42Speaker 3: is to invade Iran for the benefit of the expansion
- 10:47Speaker 3: of Israel's borders. Because Iran poses no national security threat
- 10:52Speaker 3: to the United States. That's the other reason conngressy won't
- 10:55Speaker 3: get the declaration of war from Congress.
- 10:58Speaker 2: That is true, certainly that and that's I guess that's
- 11:01Speaker 2: really the key component here. They may be a threat,
- 11:04Speaker 2: imminent threat, existential threat to Israel, but Iran is not
- 11:08Speaker 2: an existential threat or eminent threat to the United States
- 11:10Speaker 2: of America, which is to the point, and it's well taken,
- 11:13Speaker 2: Judge Entita Politano. Always appreciate you coming on the program
- 11:15Speaker 2: every Wednesday. I'll look forward to another conversation next week
- 11:18Speaker 2: and keep up the great.
- 11:18Speaker 3: Work with me. Thank you. Next week, Strucker and I
- 11:22Speaker 3: will work out this audio issue all the best, Brian,
- 11:24Speaker 3: thank you.
- 11:25Speaker 2: I'll keep my fingers crossed. God bless you, sir. Eight
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