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Patriots Unfiltered 1/12: Bills Preview, Wednesday Practice Report, Keys to Win on Wild Card Weekend · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. Saturday Night of Buffalo South. It's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: cold again, yeah, weather for you, Fred, Yes, Okay, it's
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  Speaker 1: been going around. Sure, the weather's been going around. But
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  Speaker 1: I think we all know right now what the game
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  Speaker 1: has to look like for them to win. Patriots, like
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  Speaker 1: taking the ball, maybe scoring a touchdown. Hey, nothing. Mike
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  Speaker 1: was on another level on Sunday. I think you had said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's like, what have you been doing for
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  Speaker 1: four months? That's a great question by Mike right there.
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  Speaker 1: Mike is just like going on rants about the defense
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  Speaker 1: and ripping everything. Juice was making fun of me on
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  Speaker 1: Sundays that right, So I'm like apoplectic, I'm going off,
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  Speaker 1: and Paul's just sitting there his feet up. It's really
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  Speaker 1: hard to argue with. Mike cares like a guest on
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  Speaker 1: The Tonight Show in the sixties, you know, with a cigarette.
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  Speaker 1: Suddenly Paul was the second most negative guy in the show.
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  Speaker 1: If you have a podcast in Boston, you're listening to
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  Speaker 1: ours right on how to do It? Did you watch it.
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  Speaker 1: I was at a Hooters. I watched the whole fol
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan. All right,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here at Gillette Stadium.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna get into what day. It really is.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of Thursday, kind of a Thursday. Yeah. Well but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so we're here for the next two hours talking Buffalo
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  Speaker 1: Bills wild Card weekend. Saturday night in Buffalo, super zero degrees,
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  Speaker 1: cold cold cole um. But I was listening this morning
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  Speaker 1: to one of Paul's shows and a notable ex Patriot
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  Speaker 1: came down on the side of Eric Scallavino. Take the ball,
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  Speaker 1: he said, the Patriots. This is Rob Nikovich. He said
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  Speaker 1: that the Patriots should take the ball first. Uh, because
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  Speaker 1: they need to get out in front. That's the defensive guys. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't agree with him, but that's what he said.
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  Speaker 1: Rages on. Yeah, if they take the ball and then
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  Speaker 1: they go three and out, I'm going to attack Eric.
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  Speaker 1: I said this yesterday I went home. I wouldn't kill
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  Speaker 1: any team for taking the ball or whatever, but so
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  Speaker 1: I want to I do want to attack Rob Nikovic
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  Speaker 1: in his mentality, so he wants to take the ball
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  Speaker 1: so they can get the lead, right, right, What game
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  Speaker 1: do you not want to get the lead? Right? What
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  Speaker 1: game do you go in and say, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I hope the other team scores first today. I'm a
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  Speaker 1: matter of fact, I'm gonna try to make it easier
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  Speaker 1: for him. I'm gonna give you the ball first. City
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  Speaker 1: chiefs of the past few years had the people right
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  Speaker 1: where they wanted them in the first quarter, give up,
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  Speaker 1: you know, three touchdowns, second quarter, boom boom, boom, boom boom,
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  Speaker 1: we got the lead. At halftime, you're done. Yeah, up
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  Speaker 1: for a challenge today. And the only team I can
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  Speaker 1: think of that actually did that. No, but do you
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  Speaker 1: think that they wanted to do? Of course not. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just being so like the idea of I'm gonna take
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  Speaker 1: the ball because I want to get the lead is
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  Speaker 1: like silly to me. It's kind of like saying, we
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  Speaker 1: gotta we gotta run the ball and stop the run.
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  Speaker 1: Oh it's the guy who from we got our guy.
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  Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta go, we gotta win the battle
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  Speaker 1: of the line of skirmish. I almost almost bulled to
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  Speaker 1: fread right there, almost for no reason, no poop. Well especially,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and I know this is what you're saying,
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  Speaker 1: Like Buffalo is seven nothing lead to them in that
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  Speaker 1: offense and the first time of the game. Don't get
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  Speaker 1: me wrong, I think the first touchdown is normous. I
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  Speaker 1: think the first touchdown is enormous. I think if Buffalo
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  Speaker 1: falls behind and they start thinking about it absolutely Conversely,
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  Speaker 1: the way the Patriots have played from behind, they fall behind,
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  Speaker 1: bad news. Like I think the first touchdown is important,
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  Speaker 1: but I think it's important in every game. Yeah, I think.
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  Speaker 1: I think for the Patriots getting ahead, if they have
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  Speaker 1: a seven nothing lead, you know, the pressure is on Buffalo.
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  Speaker 1: For Buffalo, you have to get ahead of them by
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  Speaker 1: really though two scores to to really you know, make
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  Speaker 1: it then. And I think the same thing with the Patriots.
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  Speaker 1: I think if the Patriots fall behind by ten or more,
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  Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's gonna be tough. I'd even I'd even
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  Speaker 1: argue Buffalo even if you get down two scores, they're
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  Speaker 1: still capable of coming. They're capable, but the thoughts start
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  Speaker 1: coming into their head. Yeah, I mean, but that's with
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  Speaker 1: most teams. Like most teams, you get down two scores,
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  Speaker 1: it's tough. To come back from that most teams, but
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  Speaker 1: there are some teams, some teams they don't care. Like
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City. I would never rule them out. Like old Patriots,
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  Speaker 1: I would never rule them out down two scores from
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  Speaker 1: from say like two thousand and three to two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and eighteen. Exclusive, I would never have ruled the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: out of the game. They fell behind. One thing I
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  Speaker 1: you know, Nikevich did say this morning that I did
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  Speaker 1: kind of you know, agree with is you got to
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  Speaker 1: just tell these people, especially Mac, let's just go out
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  Speaker 1: and play. Have fun. You know, it's it's yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs, but just go out and relax and play
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  Speaker 1: your game and don't worry about it, because I think
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  Speaker 1: the pressure really is on the Bills in this game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah right, So, yeah, there's always more pressure on the favorite.
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  Speaker 1: The home team has more pressure. Yeah, the home team
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  Speaker 1: is should be favored and should win most of that.
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  Speaker 1: Like I was joking around about this this morning with Deuce.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, who has more pressure on him in the
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  Speaker 1: game this week than Kansas City. There are two touchdown
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  Speaker 1: favorite at home against the team that most teams, most
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  Speaker 1: people don't even believe belongs in the playoffs. Yeah, Like,
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  Speaker 1: if you're just gonna talk about pure pressure, Kansas City,
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  Speaker 1: which doesn't have a good home history in the playoffs period,
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  Speaker 1: is playing a team that is kind of similar to
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots in their pedigree in Pittsburgh. I agree that
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  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh stinks, But what would be the more like embarrassing loss,
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  Speaker 1: Buffalo losing to the Patriots at home or Kansas City
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  Speaker 1: losing to Pittsburgh, Right, Yeah, Like you can't even calculate
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  Speaker 1: how much pressure there was on the Chiefs. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it's gonna matter because I think Pittsburgh is punchless.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they could do anything other than Kansas
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  Speaker 1: City just handing the game to them, and that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot more pressure on Kansas City
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  Speaker 1: than any other team in the playoffs this weekend. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but we're talking about the Patriots. No, I know. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just saying the home team always has the pressure. I
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  Speaker 1: agree with that storyline. I think Buffalo has pressure. Buffalo
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  Speaker 1: is supposed to win, the Patriots aren't. Yeah, And I
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  Speaker 1: think that that's like a kind of defining characteristic right
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  Speaker 1: now with this Buffalo team of if they did get down,
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  Speaker 1: do they have do they have that because I think
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  Speaker 1: they have the pieces to score on anybody and to
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  Speaker 1: move the ball. But I think it's that in between.
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  Speaker 1: Are they going to get in their own heads and
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  Speaker 1: stop executing? And you know, I think that's where Buffalo
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  Speaker 1: is generally, is a team can they you know? And
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  Speaker 1: I think the Patriots aren't quite there yet. I think
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots fall behind. They're probably done well. You know,
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  Speaker 1: the Bills have won their last three or four. The
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  Speaker 1: Patriots have lost their last three or four. But the
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  Speaker 1: Bills haven't looked great against you know, inferior or opponents lately.
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  Speaker 1: You know, so who are they? That's a little I
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  Speaker 1: mean they've won that, they've won their last four in
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  Speaker 1: a row. That's a little bit. I know people have
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  Speaker 1: made a big deal out of it. I would love
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  Speaker 1: to not be playing well and winning my games by
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  Speaker 1: three scores, which is what they've done. Yeah, like thirty
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  Speaker 1: one to ten, twenty nine to fifteen, and twenty seven
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  Speaker 1: to ten the last three weeks, plus thirty three to
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  Speaker 1: twenty one against the Patriots. Right, So they've won all
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  Speaker 1: these games by multiple scores and they're not playing well.
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  Speaker 1: I agree, they're not playing well. Yeah, but that just
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  Speaker 1: shows you how good they are. It's under like the
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  Speaker 1: Atlanta game with the Patriots. We won twenty five nothing,
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  Speaker 1: so they hit it, but they didn't look that good
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  Speaker 1: doing exact A great comparison, Yeah, great compar I would
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  Speaker 1: say the same to the Carolina game. In Carolina, they
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  Speaker 1: won going away, but I don't think it looked that way, right.
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  Speaker 1: But as long as you take care of your business. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs now it's a it's a sequence of one
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  Speaker 1: game seasons. All you gotta do is win this week.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think do you think the Bills kind of
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  Speaker 1: us the loss to Tampa Bay a little bit as
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  Speaker 1: a springboard will that comeback attempt and making it. I
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  Speaker 1: know they lost and fell a little. I think that's
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  Speaker 1: when they got so belief. Yeah. I think they were teetering, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, down twenty four to three or whatever it
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  Speaker 1: was at the half, and they came out in the
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  Speaker 1: second half and took it to the Super Bowl champs
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  Speaker 1: in their home field where they have been absolutely dominant
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  Speaker 1: all season. Got robbed of a Passengerferens call in the
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  Speaker 1: end zone multiple multiples. But I think that they came
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  Speaker 1: away from that game. They lost an overtime and they said, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we can do this. They took care of business, they
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  Speaker 1: won their last four, they righted the ship. Now let's
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  Speaker 1: see if they can pull it through. Because I do
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  Speaker 1: think I agree with you guys. I think all the
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  Speaker 1: pressure was on Buffalo on Saturday night. Yeah, especially if
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  Speaker 1: it starts like a good start for the Patriots. And
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  Speaker 1: I mean with how much you we've been building up this,
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  Speaker 1: this this narrative of this team. You know, so you
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  Speaker 1: go back to the whole debate whether or not to
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  Speaker 1: take it. I think either way, if the Patriots stop
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  Speaker 1: them and they have to punt, or the Patriots get points,
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  Speaker 1: either way it puts pressure on them. Yeah, either lta
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  Speaker 1: energy for the Patriots. But what helps you more? Going
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  Speaker 1: up three nothing or seven nothing? Stopping them three and out,
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  Speaker 1: I would say stopping them three. Yeah, I'd rather stop him.
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  Speaker 1: I'd rather stop because you know I have the hammer right,
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  Speaker 1: but the other thing the ball right. But the bottom
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  Speaker 1: line is, it doesn't matter what they do. It matters
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  Speaker 1: how they play. Like this is what I said yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: Like no games or ever generally want a loss by
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  Speaker 1: who what they choose at the coin top, right, If
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  Speaker 1: if they win the toss and take the ball and
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  Speaker 1: go down and score. That's good. If they don't, it's bad.
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  Speaker 1: Like it's it's pretty simple. But we've also seen a
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  Speaker 1: million examples in the NFL of the opening drive of
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  Speaker 1: any game. The team has a plan, a script, whatever
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  Speaker 1: you want to call it. They marched down the field,
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  Speaker 1: they get a touchdown and it's gonna be one of
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  Speaker 1: those games. And then like they're flat, right, and then
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  Speaker 1: the other defense settles down and the Browns here, the
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  Speaker 1: Browns here? Was that? What? Well? Yeah, but they kind
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  Speaker 1: of gave up on their game plan. It was also
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  Speaker 1: a little different in terms of the person, but I
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  Speaker 1: mean games and when that's happened and you think, like wow,
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  Speaker 1: they're just really moving the ball, and then they can't
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  Speaker 1: do anything after that. So it's like Miami did it
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday and then they did it again. They did
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  Speaker 1: it again, Right, that's been closed the game and did
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  Speaker 1: it again. Yeah, thank you, sir. May have another I
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  Speaker 1: didn't mean it, savoratory defense, right, he's the negative one
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  Speaker 1: on the show. Pall stop trying to make it back.
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  Speaker 1: I think we got to talk about Mills though. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's significant. Yeah, another d Yeah, the COVID list
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  Speaker 1: and I'm so it's it's Wednesday. The question is did
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  Speaker 1: he go on it yesterday? Like, does he have enough
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  Speaker 1: time to get back if he Yeah, he was. It
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  Speaker 1: was placed on last night's transactions, So so yesterday they
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  Speaker 1: put him on. So did he test on Monday? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't think he has time, right, you need
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  Speaker 1: five days, don't you. Well, but what if he tested
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  Speaker 1: on Monday? Is it too I don't know. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: don't even just thinking out loud either way, he's not practicing. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's not good. It's not idea because if he plays,
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  Speaker 1: he's going to have have to play without having practiced
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  Speaker 1: a week. And that's why you've had a bevy of
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  Speaker 1: signings like Cravon LeBlanc coming back, this guy DJ Daniel.
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  Speaker 1: You still got DeVante Bows, so you have I mean
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  Speaker 1: you have four cornerbacks on the practice squad. Have we
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  Speaker 1: officially announced any of those moves? DJ Daniel, I shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: say any squad. LeBlanc, Yeah, I don't know that. There
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  Speaker 1: was some confusion. Wilson tweeted that he was getting signed
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  Speaker 1: to the Act of roster. Yeah, there was some descrepance
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  Speaker 1: release that went out last night that the Patriots signed
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  Speaker 1: two players. That was the practice squad. Yes, that's that
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  Speaker 1: wasn't wasn't that j Smith who is a tight end, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a tight end and a debut, but it wasn't Craven.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know. I mean they're going to be scrambling.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they don't have I mean you're talking Jowan
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  Speaker 1: Williams maybe on the outside. Yeah, I mean we know
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  Speaker 1: what the how deep these guys are, so you gotta
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  Speaker 1: take more chances. And I don't even know if Miles Bryant,
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  Speaker 1: like he just came off. He just came off. But
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  Speaker 1: his status, yeah, how healthy? Yes, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like Kendrick Bourne was saying the week that
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  Speaker 1: he came back, but he still had to recover it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so he was a symptomatical. He was asymptomatic.
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  Speaker 1: Remember everybody told you was a symptomatic except everybody said
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  Speaker 1: that except for him, who evidently said I was having
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  Speaker 1: a hard time. You can't you can't play this game
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  Speaker 1: and hope that Alan makes mistakes because if you give
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  Speaker 1: up time, guys are going to come open. Yeah, And
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  Speaker 1: that's it's just that I think that that sums it up,
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  Speaker 1: and especially now it's it's Matt Judland. You guys gotta
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  Speaker 1: go get after him and not give him time because
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  Speaker 1: there's a good chance you're gonna have practice squad guys
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  Speaker 1: covering Cole Beasley, you know, Mackenzie. I mean, that's the
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  Speaker 1: other thing. New England has had, uh significant names go
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  Speaker 1: on the COVID list the last few weeks. And I've
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  Speaker 1: been keeping track obviously of each opponent every week and
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  Speaker 1: what they're doing. Buffalo hasn't had anything so far this
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  Speaker 1: because their whole team has already been there, right, That's
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, so they're like getting back and
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  Speaker 1: healthy at the right times. Well yeah, I mean on
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  Speaker 1: a one and I don't know why you would rule
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  Speaker 1: it out, but I mean that's that's where it's trending
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  Speaker 1: in that direction. I mean, I mean it's funny because
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  Speaker 1: I wrote about at the Sporting and then you get
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  Speaker 1: a lot of responses if like I'd rather have Craig
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  Speaker 1: on the blink than Joe Wan Williams, Like he's not
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  Speaker 1: even in the building. You're officially announced yet. But it's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of practice squads slot type cornerbacks. It's not
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  Speaker 1: guys that are ready to match up against you know,
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  Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders, Sanders, Diggs, Digs. I mean, I mean, at
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  Speaker 1: least you can say maybe Hazily Digs, Beasley and Davis
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  Speaker 1: Davis go to the three guys. I think Sanders is
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  Speaker 1: probably less of a factor because of his health. You
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  Speaker 1: know that knee. You know, he might look like he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna play. Yeah, I think he'll be an extra option.
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  Speaker 1: And then you know, like Mike said Isaiah McKenzie, I
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  Speaker 1: was from a guy who don't forget about him at
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  Speaker 1: eleven for one twenty five, who probably won't be targeted
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  Speaker 1: in this game. I mean, if if this game goes
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  Speaker 1: well for the Bills, he probably won't even be involved,
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  Speaker 1: right Yeah, So they have guys to throw the ball
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  Speaker 1: too in the Patriots right now or thin in the secondary.
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  Speaker 1: And it's even assuming that you know, Kyle Duggers gonna
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  Speaker 1: be able to play. So I mean, I'm gonna got
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  Speaker 1: to practice here in a few minutes that they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be on the stadium rest one today. I brought my jacket,
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  Speaker 1: although it's a little warmer today than yeah. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be all right. But up, you don't mean
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  Speaker 1: to talk about you know, Dawson Knox and dealing with him.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what if if Dugger can't go, it's just uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's it'll be interesting to see who's out there.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna have to take chances. But but also too,
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  Speaker 1: I should point out good sign yesterday with the faux
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  Speaker 1: injury report, right, they had him as limited was limited. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: we were just talking about that limited bags of chips
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  Speaker 1: using dirt from NFL team stadium. Yeah, New England has
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  Speaker 1: one of those. Yeah, so what they did that the
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  Speaker 1: league took dirt, literally literally took dirt and from here
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  Speaker 1: the practice field and they grew potatoes and then made
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  Speaker 1: chips from the potatoes. So they'll have like branded bags
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  Speaker 1: of chips from the different stadiums. Okay, yeah, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: just just knowing what goes into that dirty practice field,
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  Speaker 1: it makes me want to like, uh, chemicals, I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: about the chemicals either. I'm talking about want to dig
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  Speaker 1: and get h what wasn't think you wasn't there a
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  Speaker 1: collar last week? We wanted to have his ashes spread
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  Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, these potatoes taste like oh anyway, all right,
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  Speaker 1: so Deuce is going to go out to practice. But
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  Speaker 1: but I just think you know game plan wise. Look,
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  Speaker 1: you know, somehow you have to disrupt the timing of
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  Speaker 1: the bills passing games. Somehow you have to do that.
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  Speaker 1: You need Buffalo to help, You need Josh Allen to
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  Speaker 1: not all right, you need some of those late in
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  Speaker 1: the down. I think I'm just gonna throw it up. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: Look and he plays the way he did, D'Angel little
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  Speaker 1: ross down the field covering Ama Sanders. You know, like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna thiave it to him. I mean, why
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: wouldn't you. So the thing about the weather is it
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: will be cold. You know, if it's not that windy
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: then and you're a quarterback, you know you got the
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: hand warmers in your hand. You take your your hands
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: out to take the snap, make the throw, and then
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: you put them right back in the hand. So talking
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: about it, feet did some of that right, and you
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: can put that. You can put stuff in your shoes too,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: so you can deal with the cold. There's way, you know,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: there's ways to deal with the cold if you're a quarterback.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: So I don't think that's going to be such a
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: big deal. I think it's I'm laughing and making jokes
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: while you're talking, But it would be more wind, snow
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: or rain would be the elements that I'd be more
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: well in. Like that's like a driving rain right with wind? Right,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Like I think, you know, is he going to be
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: as good if it's snowing as he would be if
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: it was eighty degrees? Probably not? Who is not? Even
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Brady was as good in that. Yeah, but I think
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: that if the wind's allows you to throw, yeah, I
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: got the conditions aren't really a huge factor. I got
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: a little concern about Mac in this, Like I just
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: that's the other thing no one talks about. I was
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: just you guys heard me talking to someone, you know,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: another member of the organization earlier this morning. You know,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: it's like, you know, he, you know, Josh Allen's his
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: splits in you know, I was like, how how are
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Max right? Like we're just going to ignore the fact
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: that this little dry spell that he's been going through
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: is included a couple of games and you know, in
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: the Northeast, and they in the elements, in the elements,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: and we don't know and we really don't know like
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: when it's really bad and it's not because in Buffalo
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: he didn't throw the ball exactly, so we don't know
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: and his single worst game of the season was the
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Buffalo game here, Yeah, that was his worst game statistically anyway,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: And we don't know how he is in the frigid
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: cold because we've never seen him. And you know, I
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: think it's I think it's a bigger issue with him
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: in general because it also includes a game inside in
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Indianapolis and then in great conditions in Miami. Um, you know,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: in terms of warmth, I should say, I know it
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: was raining at times during the game, but but if
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: it looked like that last week, what's it gonna look
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: like in zero degree? I mean, you know, I don't
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: want to pre judge him. I mean, I think it's
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: an opportunity. He's been there once. We talked about how
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: before the game he looked a little bit like this
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: is a little bit but let me let me just
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: like throw like something out like from And this is
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: not scientific, this is anecdotal, but to my mind's eye,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: the best passes that I've seen Mac Jones throw all
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: season long involve sort of that deep down the numbers
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: kind of um like deep fades where he's throwing it up.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: He has incredible accuracy, puts it over the shoulder, but
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: lofts it with touch, right timing, all timing, not the
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: kind of throws you want to make in any kind
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: of inclement weather, Like I'm just gonna loft it and
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: put it in a spot. Yeah, but I don't think
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: if it's just cold, I don't consider that inclement. No,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about wind. Oh yeah, yeah, you can't do it.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you have to, you have to cut
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: through the wind. But if you're gonna have some win,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I mean there's gonna be some element of wind. I
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: don't know. It's not gonna be like zero mile parol winds.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: But I don't think it's not going to Buffalo. There's
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: wind there in September. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. But
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: if there is, it's not gonna be like that Monday
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: night game. If there is wind that affects the throw
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: of Paul's right, you got to put velocity on it
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: or the wind. The slower the ball goes, the more
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: the wind of f And as we saw in that
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: game when there was you know, almost like you know,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: tropical storm force wins, Josh Allen was able to cut
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: through it. He's got them to do it, and clearly
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: they don't think Mac does because they didn't want him
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: throwing in that game. I'm just trying to look up
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: the conditions we were talking about. Wins ten to fifteen Buffalo. Yeah,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I mean that shouldn't prohibit teams from being able to
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: throw the ball. But that's a that's a cold win.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just think, like, it's not thirty degrees,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: but it's cold and you and then that fights, it bites.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: You know, it's just gonna be a challenge for him.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: He's a kid from Jacksonville. We know his his history
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: here and his history at Alabama. I just I think
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: that's one of the one of the things to watch
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: and is he, you know, just able to show some
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: mental toughness. He's been there before. This is a playoff game.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I just I'd like to see some confidence, some growth
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: out of him in some capacity. Actually that that was
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: actually the day forecast Saturday night roughly two degrees. Uh
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: wins five to ten miles an hour, Yeah, two degrees,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: two degrees, five to ten. The wind down a little
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: bit at night. Yeah. Still, and you know, I know
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: we're getting into the weeds here, but when when it
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: does get cold, the ball gets a little slippery, you know,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: you know it's a little harder to throw the ball.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: But but we looked at Max's hand size. He doesn't
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: have he's only six one or whatever, but he does
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: have fairly big hands for a guy his size. So
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: the hand size is and a factor. Yeah, you know,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: he's got an even bigger glove on our he's got
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: that robotic hands. So yesterday they adding in right shoulder
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: problems for him. Now did they not? On the injury?
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I thought I would have seen that he's a back
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: channel kind of Oh it's this felgar and mask, don't fall,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: don't don't don't be you know, they were doing a
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: whole thing on the glove and the the you know,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: the knee injury, which I was always just like, I
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: think he just put a knee brace on because that's
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: good practice that you know. And I know, Paul, you
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: think he got injured this. I didn't the summer. Yeah,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: but I know they just and I'm talking. I actually
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: think that's feeling better. Was that that the preseason game.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I think he's moved a little bit better the last
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks. That's one of the few things that
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I think there's been signs of improvement on This is
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: why I think when we were asked that question, I
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: talked about pocket present right to think he moves a
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: little bit better than he did earlier in the season. Yeah, yeah,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: and maybe that's you know, part of that was health related. Yeah.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: So it's gonna for the Patriots to win this game.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: It's good this. Things are gonna have to happen. Some
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: quirky things are gonna have to happen, you know a
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: little bit. I mean, I think I just yeah, because
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I think straight up, I hate to say that they've
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: got to advantage. And by quirky, you mean like, you know,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: weird plays, a ref call in your favor. You can
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: count on that, you know, something, something coming out of
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: the stands and hitting somebody ahead just at the right time,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: you know, anything like that. Anything like that. We you know,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: we're gonna need a little help. Somebody's driving around right
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: now and they're like, Fred, just put out the call.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I have to go to the game a little assistance now,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: I am. You know. Right now, the Bills are favored
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: by four, which makes me feel good because you know,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: the Bills have won their last four games. Patriots have
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: lost three out of four um and the Bills get
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: three from home, so really they're only favored by one.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: So the Tots, the touts are thinking something, you know.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: But it's also I think that master class of nonsense playoff.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Playoff lines tend to be tighter anyway, don't they. Yeah,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: unless and I've spoken at length this season about how
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: the home team is no longer getting three points because
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: the road teams are playing so well. He refuses to
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: acknowledge it, so we'll just go with h. So, you know,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: do you think four is a good line for this game? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I think it. I think it could be. It was
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: a little surprised. I think it's I'm gonna look it up.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I think it's bigger than it wasn't the Monday night game.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: And I'm a little surprised that it grew because I
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: don't think Buffalo has played great. Yeah, but neither of
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: the Patriots Patriots really bad, right, Patriots have played worse
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: than the than the Bills have at least scoreboard why yeah, yeah,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: you know, so I'm I could see it being a
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: little bigger. But you know, you also have to look
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: at the money. More people in New England bet, and
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: there are more people in New England than Buffalo. So
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: they're look, you know, it's easier to get the New
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: England money than it is the Bill's money. Um, so
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: that's that's a factor too. You know how these lines
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: are formulated. Paul's looking up. I can't. It's so do
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: you everybody even remember what week that was? Uh Monday
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: night game or the home game, the Monday night game? Yeah?
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: That was uh week sixteen? Yeah, don't you have every
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: record the Monday night game? Sorry, Eric, every record of
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: every pick you made with the spread and all that
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: stuff somewhere? He probably does, I actually do so. Yeah,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Buffalo was favored by two and a half in that game, right,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: so I'm surprised that the spread is bigger than it
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: was that night. I'm not what happened, no, but I
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: think Fred's point is is accurate, like that both teams
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: haven't been playing their best, but Buffalo has been playing better,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: right and winning, and has been playing worse and losing,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: So it kind of makes sense. Yeah, they're telling you
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: they think that game was a fluke. Yeah, the one
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: we played in Buffalo, of course it was. Yeah, I
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: mean it was conditions that mother nature intervened, Yes, Yeah,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I would have thought it would have been a similar
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: and the Bill still should have won. I had the
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: ball inside the red zone and couldn't score. But you know,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I do think that if the Patriots run game, uh
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: plays well, I think we can can keep us in
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: the game. You know, if you can extend drives, shorten
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: the game, reduced the number of opportunities the Bill's offense has,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: then you have a chance and you're gonna have to
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: make two or three stops. This is I was gonna say,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: this is gonna be just like the Monday night game.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: It's not going to have much to do with the Patriots.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: It's going to be about the Patriots defense. Yes, yes,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: and I don't get to twenty four they win, and
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I have my concerns, especially in the secondary. Yeah, with
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: what's going on. Yeah, so you're right, So you're right
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: about getting the somehow getting Josh Allen uncomfortable is gonna be.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I think I've got you gotta just take some chances
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: in you're gonna get burned. Maybe because I saw him
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago here on this field, and
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: when he wasn't getting any pressure, he was running around, well,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: he was dumping off when he didn't have anybody downfield.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: He was doing what he wanted. If he does that
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: again on Sunday Saturday, and then when you thought you
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: had him, he'd flip it for a touchdown, Yeah, you know,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I know. So we haven't really talked about injuries. You know,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: we talked about Mills. But there was a fake injury
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: participation report that came out yesterday as if the Patriots
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: would have practiced and they had everybody who was injured
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: as limited, and everyone's like excited, Oh, that's good news.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: It's really no news. It's I agree with you. But
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: there was all some names added, which I think a
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: little bit worrisome. Jacobe Myers he was he added he
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: wasn't on last week? Was he? I don't think so.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: And that wasn't the one I was thinking of. Um
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: in addition to win and Phillips with his knee, uh,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Myers high tower, Harris with his hamstring, Lawrence with his shoulder, Um,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: was he on there? That might be there? When Andrews,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I don't, I know Andrews dealing with a shoulder injury.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: So you know, it's a pretty long list of guys
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: that they estimated would have been limited. We'll find out
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: um today if any of those guys are out there.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: My guess is they're gonna list everybody as limited again
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: today because they want to know, even if they don't
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: think they're gonna play, they want to try to put
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: that question. But I'm mostly interested in in Barmore because
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: if he can't practice, they have to limit him as
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: did not practice, you know, because they get the film,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: they audit the film. They can't say, oh, he was limited,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: but they can doesn't do anything. They could put him
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, but he has to do something. Yeah,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: you put him out there and the media is out there,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: and then you just send them back in. No, no, no,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: you can't do that. Yes, you can know if he's
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: on the field in uniform and does something, you can
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: list him as limited. Yeah, I'm not sure, Paul, if
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: you can then send them back in and say that
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: you can keep him out there if there's a rule
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: that's as you can't send them back here. Yeah. Yeah,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: because there are plenty of him, he doesn't have to
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: do anything. As my point, well, but there are plenty
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: of instances where we've seen a guy at practice during
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: the media session and he's been listened as did not
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: practice right right and absolute enough for about like, well,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: he was out there, we saw him, and it was
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: about taking part in team drills as opposed to you
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: can do it if you want to. I don't know, Paul,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: just keep him out there and don't have him do
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: anything and you can list him as limited. Yeah, but
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: I want, I don't know, I want. I wonder about
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: him in general because I think there's some oddities around
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: that whole situation. Yeah, that don't make a lot of
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: sense to me. You get cart it off and then
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the next day we think is good.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: to expect from Barmore. Yeah, and he's had the knee beforehand,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: so if he played, how effective is he going to
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: be Because if you if you can't put a lot
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: of weight on your knee, you have no leverage. Right.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: You know you're going up against the guy who's over
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: three hundred pounds. You know that's incredible tour on your legs.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: So now the one thing, you know, if this is
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: a short term thing, I mean it, Listen, you want
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Barmore out there. I think he's a good player, and
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I do think he collapses the pocket, but he's not.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: This is not a team that you're necessarily it wouldn't
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: be the most glaring example of a team that would.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: He would hurt you. His absence would hurt you as
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: much because they want to do that, right you know.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Um again, I want all the good players to be
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: out there. You know, it's obvious Barmore is one of
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: their better players. They need him. Yeah, but even it is,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, I would hate to have him miss like
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: the Tennessee game. A lot more than that would hate him.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: That's the buffalo. But but but you know, even if
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: you can stop Alan from going up the middle because
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Barmore is pushing, you know, and and so you you
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: limit going forward and Alan can only go left right,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I think that's important, you know, pushing that pocket, not
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: giving him the escape route up the middle. Okay, so
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: now you've limited one at least one thing. Yeah, So
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, I mean, is it is it
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: a you know, a foregone conclusion they lose if Barmore's out? No,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean gotscha On and Guy and all
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: those guys. Yeah, they they're they're fine, but it would
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: be nice to have that pocket pusher, that guy that
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: you have to double team, you know, of course, So
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I wait and see what Deuce is when he gets back. Yeah,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: all right, five five the a sticket hut line at
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Patriots dot Com. What do you think those guys will
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: be out there comes back? Probably, I don't know. I
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: don't know. I'm kind of with Fred. Don't know. They'll
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: probably be out there. What they're doing out there is
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: another thing. Yeah, it might be just for shows, just
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: so that Buffalo can be like, oh, well they were
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: out there, you know what I mean. So I don't
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: know what we can read into it other than I like,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: if if Barmber's really hurt and he's not gonna play,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna if they know, If they
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: know right now that he's not gonna play, I don't
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: think he'll be all right. I don't think. I don't
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: think they're gonna play tricks with that. I think why not,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: because I think it's not gonna do him any good
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: to be on his feet right, even to do that.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: He's better off getting treatment or whatever he needs to do. Yeah,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: if they know today that he's not playing, right, if
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: there's no, they think there's a chance that you could
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: improve with treatment during the week, then sure, you know,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: why not keep it in Buffalo's mind. But you know
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I always Friday Friday, they gotta tell you anyway, I
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: don't make a trip. So I just like I always
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: feel like like when it comes to these things, football
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: coaches tend to want to play mind games and and
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: you know, put guys out there or list them as
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: a certain thing. I haven't done that much this year.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: It's been a lot of guys that have been dnps
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: in practice and they will to clear it out by
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: the end of the week. You know. It hasn't been
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: a lot of that I have to say. But it's
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: the playoffs now, you know it's a different ball game. Yeah,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: all right, eight five five, Pats, five hundred. Let's get
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: to the phone, start with Patty and agu on. What's
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: up Patty, it's up, guys. It's been a little bit
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: better spirits than I was yesterday and Sunday night. Um,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: but that being said, I am a little bit worried
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: about this game coming up. Um to me, I'm not
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: gonna go with la Paul said, and when the line
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: of scrimmage, but to me, Um, it just breaks down
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: to a few different things that, um, I realistically don't
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: see happening. And one of them is I think on defense,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: you've got to get you rushed for and you've got
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: to get pressure with those four guys and not just
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: get there, but get Josh Allen down yea. And on offense,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I think you have to really dominate up front and
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: run over their defense. Um, you have to score. To me,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: I mean you have to score it. I mean it's
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: you can score like like like we were saying this morning,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: do you think that Sean mc dermott would sign up
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: for exactly what happened defensively in the Monday night game.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I think he would. Yeah, you're gonna run good. You're
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: gonna run for two hundred and thirty yards. You can
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: run it forty five times. Go ahead, you can run
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: for two hundred and thirty yards. I'll let you do that.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: But you're only going to get fourteen points. I think
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: he'd sign up for that in a heartbeat, right. But
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: if I get into the red zone, I want to
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: know that's where they lost the game. You know we've
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: been saying it for six weeks. I know everybody else
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: thinks it was because they embarrassed Sean McDermott and that's
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: why they won the game. They won the game because
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: the Patriots defense came up with three red zone stocks.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Ye right, that's why they won. Yea, the defense won
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: the game, not the offense. Yep. And I don't know
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: about you guys, but I think if just judging by
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: the last few games of the season, I think if
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Buffalo decides, if McDermott decides he wants to change it
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: up a little bit and run the ball, I mean's
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: just say that they're not going to be successful doing it. Yeah.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: It is another another wrinkle to think about, Patty, because
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: of the way even the most pedestrian running a game succeeded. Yeah,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: that's the worst thing about that Miami game that we
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: just had. That was a low ranked running offense, one
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: of the worst, and they ran for one hundred and
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: ninety yards yards. You know, that was the worst thing
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: to come out of that game. And it wasn't because
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: you know, there was like a yeah right, I mean,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: they had one long run in the game, and even
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: then it was only twenty seven yards. Thanks Patty. Uh,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: let's go to Ken, who's in the Navy and probably
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: well yeah, I don't know about that, but okay, yeah,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: it's a cold Navy day. Yeah. Oh yeah. Up here
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: it's getting its more degrees. Feels like minus six with
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: fourteen mile pro wins according to the Pots, the meteorologist
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: for the Patriots. Yeah, oh yeah, that's always and that
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: would be colder than the Tennessee game, right, the one here.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what the windshill was, but
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: it was four degrees. I believe four degrees. Yeah, I
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: think you're right. So I think zero fahrenheit would be colder, right, yeah,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: zero than four math? What are what are the what
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: are the benches made out of? In the Buffalo they're
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: the old Sullivan Stadium. They have seats, Yeah, they have
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: the well you mean what the players sit on? The fans? Oh,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: they've they've they've changed those two seats, although there might
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: be one section that's still bleachers. I'm not sure though
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: in the end zone there remember, I think they're in
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: the opposite end zone I'm not sure, but um, yeah,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: there's seats now. They've they've changed up that stadium. Stadium,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: but it's a cold such a dump, you know, there's
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: no there's no protection from the wind there whatsoever. Yeah, Paul,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: what's worse the old Pager Stadium or Buffalo These are
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: the two worst in my mind, and I would throw like, um, Oakland,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: the old Oakland Oakland alamed, Well it's funny. Uh. Sullivan
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Stadium or Schaeffer Stadium back then was built at exactly
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: the same time as the Bills, right, they sort of were.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: They were almost the same. Yeah, they were. I don't
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: know if it was the same company. It may have been,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: but you're right, kind of like Gillette and Nissan and Yashville. Yep,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: that's h ok that was the architect for both. Yeah,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: so they were. They were like mirror stadiums back in
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy. I love this stuff. Thanks guys. All right, well,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta. I do have one question the
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Orwan comment. Actually, I go, um, I don't know why.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe I've said this four and you guys have answered,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: But why in the heck we got two great tight ends?
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Why do we not see two tight end sets? I mean,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: you can run, you can pass out. I wish Mike
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: was here and had the numbers, but um, I feel
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: like it's like they one percent two tight ends. Really,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: when have you seen Henry and Johnny Smith of the
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: scene they do. But yeah, see, I'll wait for Mike.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: We'll get on that can when Mike gets back. I
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: think Mike hast that sheet um with the personnel percentage,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: of course you would I and I think he's got
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: someone's got to do the work, right Ken. You know
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's right by someone he means not me,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: all right, Ken, thanks for the call. Todd's in North Carolina.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Hate Todd. Wow to hear Paul Perill throw the curling team.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: You know you got the hammer. That's pretty pretty interesting.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Never would have thought it spoken like a true Canadian.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I think he meant hammer and nail. But anyway, the
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: hammer is you have the last ups like in baseball,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: you got we got the hammer, We got the bottom
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: of the ninth. So I never heard the hammer. To
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: me is the possession to start the second. I never
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: heard that before. Like the hammer, I've never heard that.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I could No, I can assure you would have had
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with curling. No. I thought it was
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: just like you know the ham, where the hammer you're
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: the nail? No, no, no, no, oh, hammer is I
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: have last ups, I have the last, I have the
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: ball last. I've never heard that before. So I need
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: you boys to defend our coaching staff a little bit.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Because I was listening to mister Hart's off day podcast,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: which by the way, is the best when Paul is
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: on it. I agree, Oh totally. They just slammed the coach.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: They said that the team has been unprepared, the team
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: has not been showing what they they've done, that they've
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: even questioned the personnel moves like he and the other
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: guy just sat there and I was like, Wow, Yeah,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: it's it's an after Miami loss, and let's just spread
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: the entire the entire year and the team. Okay, I'll
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: let them speak for themselves, but but here's one point
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: that I'll make on this, Freddie, I understand how much
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: success that Bill Belichick has had, but for the purposes
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one, let's just talk about twenty twenty one.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: If a team came out in three out of its
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: last four games and got dominated in the first quarter
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: three times the way the Patriots did, would you not
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: say that they were not prepared. Wouldn't that be the
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: way you would explain it, Like you'd say, like if
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni's team came out and looked like that at
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: the start of three out of four games, you'd say,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: a rookie coach, he's not ready, he doesn't have the
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: team ready to go in these these big games down
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: the stretches. They're going to the playoffs. Yeah, that's how
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: you would say. That's how I'll talk about it. Yes,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: but in context, you have to you know who's the
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: better team if if you know, I don't, I don't.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: It's not like Jacksonville wasn't prepared for the Patriots. They
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: just weren't good about Miami. Yeah, well that's the thing
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: about the Colts. Yeah, like is being prepared, um, fumbling
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: the stat the snap or see, don't don't talk about
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: the whole game in time. I'm just talking about how
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: the game began. Yeah, one team was ready to play,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: the other team wasn't. Three times. I know it's you
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: can simplify it that way, but I I just don't know.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: I can't believe that they went into this game not prepared.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Now did they execute no, obviously to start the game.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: But like so then I don't ever want to hear
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: anybody ever say that that the team wasn't prepared. But
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: but because if we're just gonna say it's about executing,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: that's what you're you're saying what coaches say. No, but
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I'm just talking about the Patriots. Yeah, I know, if
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: there's wold, don't ever tell me that they were unprepelled.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: But if if there's one thing that we believe is
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: that Bill Bill Belichick knows how to prepare a team,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: did he forget to do how to do that all
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, does that mean he doesn't right every time? No,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: it's just saying, but maybe he didn't do it right.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: So I can't believe that they weren't prepared. I can
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: believe that they just weren't. Okay, So you think they
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: need to do what to Josh Allen in this game?
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I believe that they need to take chances. Okay, I
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: absolutely agree with you. Why do you think that because
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: what they did last time didn't work? Correct? Right, they
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: weren't prepared the last time because they had a terrible plan.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: No, no no, no, no, no. If they didn't, they didn't,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: you're mixing laection. That's the way they wanted to attack, Josh.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: You're mixing up the decision, the game plant. That's this
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: decision with preparing. They were prepared. You can say the
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: game plan wasn't right, but they were prepared for the
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: game plan that was given to them. Okay, so now
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: you're using it's not Samantha. Not being prepared is not
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: having the right plan of attack. No, it isn't. Okay, No,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: it isn't. Again, it is not. That's fine. I never
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: ever want to hear a team wasn't prepared. Never you
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: can have you can don't ever tell me that that
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: you ever prepared to like, we're prepared, but you can
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: have the wrong game plan coming in. It just didn't work,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: but you didn't have them ready. But we were prepared,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: We were ready to go with the game plan. It
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: was the wrong game. So no team was ever not
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: ready to go because no, no coach has ever said,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: you know what, guys, I don't need one hundred times
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: get it done. We're not talking about any other team.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: We're talking about the Patriots. Yeah, but the our history,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: you don't realize that, like the hypocrisy of what you're saying,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: I'm not the history of Bill Belichick is that one
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: of one of his gifts, his gifts you agree he's
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: he's I mean, he's the best coach ever. Wait a minute, wait,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I agree, all right, So one of his gifts is
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: preparing his team. I totally agree. I'm not and I
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: and I agree with you that he may not always
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: have the right game plan. I like, I'm not arguing
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: with anything you're saying, but I can't believe I'm using
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: the totality of the twenty years, twenty plus years. I mean,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: there's no arguing. What are we going to say ninety
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: ninety five percent of the time he gets it. You
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: have to say that he hasn't gotten it the last month.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Riata last four games they have not either. But is
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: that because he's not preparing them or they're just maybe
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: he's not preparing them the right way? Well, I mean,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: bitching about coming off a bye week and having one
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: less game to prepare, you're not prepared the right way.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: He didn't do anything to nip that in the bud. Yeah,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know that. Okay, this is my point. Then
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I don't ever want to hear you say that about anybody. Yeah,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: because all coaches are preparing their team. What I do know,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they're doing it the right way. Yeah,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: what I do know is, you know, stupid mistakes, losing
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: the turnover battle, which you know they I don't think
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: that the only reason why they've fallen behind in these
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: three games is because of a lack of execution. They
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: haven't been ready to go. Yeah, I don't know why.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know why because I'm not in the locker room.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. You know, maybe he's
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: looking at what, you know, the people that he had
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: and trying to formulate something to work around the deficiencies
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: and it's just not working. Like when you like, this
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: is what I get annoyed at. This is kind of
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: a separate thing that what we're just talking about. Like
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: every play theoretically in football is designed to succeed right, right,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: of course, but there's another team trying to stop it correct, right,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: and only one of them gets it right. That's right,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: But you can't just always blame it on the personnel,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: like if it doesn't go right, like sometimes the other team.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: And Bill talks about this in the preseason. A lot
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: preseason games can be confused, Yeah, you know, deceiving, deceiving,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: because there are sometimes that the play is just set
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: up to fail. Yeah, yeah, okay, and they don't worry
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: about checking out of it and do it like right, right,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: But in the regular season and real you know, in
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: real time, you're trying to succeed. So when it doesn't
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: succeed doesn't always mean that the players screwed it up.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it wasn't a good play and the other team
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: made a better play, sure, because they are trying to
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: combat what you're surely, And I just think and I
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: saw Joe Banner wrote about this this week, um, the
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: former executive with Philadelphia in Cleveland among other teams. And
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know, he's an interesting follow on Twitter for
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: anybody that that is interested in this kind of stuff.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: But I don't always agree with what he says. But
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: that was one point that he made, is like every
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: coach always throws it on the execution every single time,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: one hundred times out of one hundred. Privately, anyway, they
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: will say, well, you know, because they don't want to
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: admit their game plan was wrong, right, And and to
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: me it's not as simple as well, they just don't
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: they just don't play like when they and that this
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: is the thing about the Patriots lose. It's me. I'm
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: not disagreeing with you about having the wrong game plan.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: I'm not just agreeing, but I can I I'll be
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: willing to bet everything that whatever the game plan was,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: they were prepared to go out there with it. If so,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not disagreeing with that. If so, then how come
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: when they do lose? Bill more often than not, says
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: we got to do everything better, including coach coaching. Publicly? Yeah, absolutely,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: he says that publicly. Do you think, and again, this
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: is an abstract with no definitive answer. I'm just asking
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: for your opinion. Do you ever think when Bill ends
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: the press conference by saying I just have to coach better,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: that he really believes that. I don't. I don't. I think.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think any coach believes. I don't say it.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think any of them believes. I think when
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Lawrence Guy lines up over center, or they get three punts,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: or when they get three puns blocked in a season,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: I think he does believe his special teams Guy needs
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: to coach. That's a perfect example. We do you think
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: that Cam a Cord said to Lawrence Guy, listen, it's
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: fourth and inches, get right over the center on a punt,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: of course, not so like again, sometimes the execution isn't there. Yeah,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: but maybe Bill doesn't blame it's hammered enough. But we
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: can criticize Cam a Chord because he's this inexperienced kid
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: who came from like a community college in Mississippi, right,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: and the special teams have been wretched, So we can
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: blame him for not having no And that's fair enough, Paul,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: because you know, should he get to blame for that?
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: You know, should Lawrence guy, by the weathers. I do
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: think that should be accountable for it. But he's probably thinking,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: holy crap, you know, I really had to go over
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: at again. We've gone over this in practice in a
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: veteran still. And I wonder, and I'll bet you that's
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: why because it was fourth in like a blade of grass,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: and I wonder if Lawrence Guy just had a brain
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: fart and said they might try to sneak this somehow. Yeah,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: and that's why he was up trying to get out
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: of it until last second, but it was too late.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: They threw the flag, you know, and then like I said,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: the block punts three in a season, you know, is
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: that coaching is at you know? What is that what's
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: going on there? Did did you know? Do we have
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: a hole in our and I think in our line
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: that other teams are seeing that we're not fixing. And
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I do think that that's that that's more of a
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: personnel issue too. Yeah, but you know, to take the
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: coaches off the hook there, because that's something that certainly
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Bubba Ventrone saw and talked about it before the game.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: He said he saw it. Yeah, he saw some leakage.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's it's a it's it's a it's
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: a complicated answer to I mean, it's a simple answer
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: to a complicated Yeah, you know. Yeah. And I think
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: when you say unprepared, it's it's a little bit of
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: a misnomer because I think what why I said it's Samantha, Yeah,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: what what you're really saying is not well enough prepared. Yeah.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, let's let's look at that last game against
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: the Bills, for example. We think that was the wrong
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: game plan for Josh Allen, Right, but Bill might be thinking,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: and I don't know, that was the best we can do.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: It might be and very well, and we were waiting
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: for the mistake and it didn't happen, and it didn't
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: happen or we didn't. We dropped it when much like
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: but much like Malcolm Butler in the Super Bowl, at
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: some point you have to say, I think this is
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: the best way to do it, but it ain't working, right,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: I Gotta do it some other way, right. I know
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: That's what good coaches do, and that's what he has
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: made a career out of doing. They adjusting on the fly.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: This isn't I mean, this is one example out of
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: you know, twenty years worth. But they were unprepared for
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: the Wildcat in two thousand and eight, right, I would
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I would have never been, never been unprepared for the
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Wildcats since you Right, I would agree with never since
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: So that I mean that. And again that's one example
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: in two decades worth of of of evidence of his coaching.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: But it's it's I think when you say unprepared, you're not.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Obviously they're they're working all week, they are preparing. I
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: think what most people mean by unprepared to come out
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: in a game is that they're not well enough prepared.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: They may have prepared, but they may not have done enough.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: I don't even think it's like necessarily like football related
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: always it can be, but but I just mean the
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: team's not ready to go right mentally, like they might
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: not be into into like focus and the like. I
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: think the intensity is there, but they're not playing. And
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: those are the kind of things we just don't know,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: and it could be it could answer, Yeah, there could
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: be stuff going on. Like I was thinking, you know,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: I hate to like, you know, be callous and you know,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: unsympathetic or whatever. But you know, I was thinking about
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: like when I thought that Adrian Phillis was talking about
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Barmore um and Barmore coming on now, you know, I
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: was thinking, like how soft are we? You know, like
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: are we like going into puddles when guys get hurt?
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, we gotta you gotta keep playing. Yeah, Okay,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: he's hurt and you feel bad, but you can't let
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: that after the game, no, I know, I know, but
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: like I don't know if that's affecting guys during game.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: And you know, they talked about like coming to buy
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: and not having the extra day vacation and like our
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: little thing. That's the funny thing, and we kind of
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: touched on this yesterday. I think that we all look
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: at them and say, wow, you know, they've been down
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: seventeen in the fourth quarter a couple of times, but
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: yet find a way to you know, clawback within a
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: field goal. So they they're tough, they're mentally tough, like
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: they don't quit. But at the same time, there's little
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: things like that, Yeah, where they've you know, and I
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: don't I mean, we've just sort of attached this narrative
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: to the team, and I guess we don't really know
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: for sure, but it seems like that's what Mac was
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: talking about that night, right, a little we're feeling sorry
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: for ourselves. Are little things getting to them, you know,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: like I don't know, right, which is a sign of weakness. Right,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: So weakness and like unprepared could also be and I'm
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: not saying this is the case in the last month,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: but like an example could be like you know, your
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: train all week, you know you're going to a warm
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: or the city call it Miami, and you're unprepared for
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: how hot and humid it is. You know, you try
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: to mimic the conditions in the in the the bubble
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: and it didn't work. Or you played outside all week
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: and it was forty degrees and then you go to
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Miami and it's eighty nine and humid, Like, that's being unprepared.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: That's nothing to do with football planning or everything, but
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: that's something that leads to being unprepared for what happens
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: at the outset, right, and you get into a hole
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: like but the the Jacksonville I think it was Jacksonville
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: or Tennessee. What was the game where it was like
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: ridiculously humid, Jason, that was jackson unprepared for that? You
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: how can you prepare for that? You can't prepare to
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: mimic those conditions. They come out and you're flat that
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: kind of heat, Right, That's that's an example of being unprepared,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: but has nothing to do with coaching. Yeah, I just
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: think that's this, Like I keep saying, it's complicated. There's
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that goes into it. But I
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: just think that if you took a step back and
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: didn't give Belichick credit for everything he's accomplished and just
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: you know, like he does. He doesn't give players credit
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: for what they've done in the past. It's only about
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: what you do when you're here. So what he's doing
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: right now, I don't think the team has showed own
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: to be prepared. Yeah, so the last month it's it's
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: just tough because I don't know, Like, if they come
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: out this game and they do what we think they
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: should do, take chances, blitz a little, it could be worse.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: And then like, what's why I'm not necessarily saying strictly football? Yeah, right,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: because I I think his game planning ability is beyond reproach,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: And certainly I don't care if he's the worst game
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: planner who's ever performed in the NFL, his credentials as
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: the worst ever would be far greater than anybody on
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: this show. Yeah, to talk about the games, right, Yeah, right,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: game Campbell knows a hell of a lot more about
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: x's and knows and football than I'll ever pretend to, right,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: And he's might be he might be lower on the
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: on the ring and the ladder. It's it's a great conversation,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: you know, um, because it's the it's the it's the
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: best kind of our discussions because there's no right or
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: wrong answer and we just end up talking. But at
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, like I'm afraid to say it,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: but like we just might be a ten and seven
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: borderline play off team. That's who might we might? I mean,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's any shame of that right now.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: And I do think that. I mean, win or lose Saturday.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: I think that's what they are. Yeah, they're a team that,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: you know, had a game gone the other way, they
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: might not have made the playoffs had a game gone
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: another way in their favor, and they might be the
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: division champs and who knows even getting to buy Yeah,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Like that's how you're like, here's a way to look
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: at it. So you're ten and seven, right, there's a
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: bunch of nine and eight teams that are that are
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: right with you, and they're on the outside looking in.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: You lost to a bunch of them, right, You lost
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: in New Woolens, You lost in Miami twice. You beat
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: the Chargers, Yeah, you lost to the Colts. Like, those
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: are some of the teams that are like you. That's
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: the that's the marginal difference. I said this yesterday, you know,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: with the whole Brian Flores thing. You know, everybody you
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: know wants to treat this like Vince Lombardi just got fired.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: After winning the first two Super Bowls. Brian Flores lost
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: to Jacksonville and Atlanta. That's why he's right. They lost
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: some games that they shouldn't have lost, and Miami should
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: not have lost to Jacksonville. I'm sorry. Yeah. And oh,
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: by the way, the jury is in and judges out, Yeah,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: judges out. And Bill O'Brien is supposedly interviewing for jackson
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: that's yeah, yeah, that's today or tomorrow. Yeah, supposed to
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, man, yeah, I thought his head was
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: gonna come right off. But they did fire Joe Judge.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: You know what. The first thing I thought of, though,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: because that was hell being no, no, no, no, not that,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: not that. Look, with all due respect to Christmas, I'm
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: driving home and I hear that up. You know, they did.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: So there's an opening in the Giants. And I'm thinking, Bill,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: if the Giants really wanted to get their fans back,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: they would call up Robert Craft and say, we'll give
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: you four first round picks for Billy Daniel Jones. Yeah,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: you know, and and would Bill want to do it? Maybe,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: so we'll go back to the Giants where he started.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Contract status is no. One knows the answer to this.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: I agree that's why he has so I'm just I'm
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: just guessing. But my, my, my, my guess is that Bill,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: you stay here as long as you want. But do
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: you think that he's under contract. I think it's I
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: think Bill wants that freedom. Yeah, it's probably a contract
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: that is loosely worded for him to be like year
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: to year. See if I was, if I could word it,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: I would word it this way. Bill. You can stay
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: as long as you want, but if you ever leave,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: you can't coach another team in the NFL. So I'm
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: gonna give you that that knowledge that you have a
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: job for infinity, but if you leave, you can't coach
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: another team in the NFL. I just can't imagine Belichick
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: painting himself into that kind of a corner. Right depends
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: on how much he might have, like three years left
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: in his deal. I don't know. It paints him in
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: the corner if he wants to coach another team, But
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: it also gives him the job security, the job security
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: of knowing and the check I can stay as long
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: as I want, right on the money. But doesn't he
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: have that Well no, not necessarily, of course he does.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I mean everybody says that Robert Craft it isn't gonna
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: put up with losing three years in a row. Well, no,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: he would fire him. See, But in this contract, he
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: couldn't why I just said, the contract is worded. Okay,
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: now I'm going to switch my argument to say, would
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: Robert Kraft really paint myself exactly so both of them
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: I have to pay this guy no matter what. No,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: but see exactly so both of them are painting. It's
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: very likely that paint that contract paints both sides into
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: a corner. I could see something. I could see something
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: like an automatical renewal situation. I don't know. You won't
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: know this, but Tim Wakefield had something like this with
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: the Red Sox where the two sides would meet after
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: the end of every season. They just automatically renewed the
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: contract until with him knuckled under right until he decided
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: finally to retire. Yea, um, but I could see them
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: having some kind of a deal. I don't know exactly
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: how it would be worded. I'm not an expert in
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: sports law, but somewhere where Bill has the security to
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: know that he is still under contract. But Robert isn't,
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: you know, bound to pay him if, in fact, three
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: years of losing records, he wants to make a change,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: he can't. Yeah. See, but if I'm Robert Kraft The
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: thing I want to protect myself is like, if he
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: wants to retire, fine, you retire. I'll deal with that.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: What I want, what I can't have happened is he
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: quits and he goes to another team. I can't have
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: that happen. So I have to have some protection against that.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: And that's why I think he's under contract. And then Bill,
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Like on Bill's side, the protection he's looking for is
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: the security, you know, like, I can't be fired without
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: being paid. Like, I'll bet you there's some kind of
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: clause that they have to renegotiate when he gets to
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: a certain you know whatever. So he's never been a
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: lame duck. Yeah, like he every time he gets to
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: the point where he'll only have one year left on
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: his deal, it automatically renews unless one side says no. Yeah,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: it's it's one of the great mysteries of all talking
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: about Bill's contract. You know when he might be done,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: but what are the terms of bills? It's one of
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: the great mysteries of all sports. I don't I honestly
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: don't think anyone really knows except for Bill, Robert Craft
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: and the agent. I really don't. Yeah, I would agree
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: with you. It's a very small circle of people that
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: would know. Um, and I don't probably Jonathan. Yeah, I
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: don't think anybody in the media would know that. For
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: certain agreement, it would it would be it would be
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: not of any interest to Bill to have anyone know
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Rob Rob. Yeah, it doesn't help Bill for anyone to
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: know about this other than Jonathan and Robert. But you're right,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: because I did. I'm not gonna lie said. It's a
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: douce this morning. The Giants thing. Yeah, uh, deuces back
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: from practice. Oh wait wait, wait, no, forget it, wait
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: for it, wait for it. He's got it. I'm sorry coming,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: he's coming. I didn't know Matt was. Wasn't in his
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: chair all right, I guess indeed back from practice. Yeah,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: some news. Uh, start with the good news. Christian Barmore
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: was out there and he looked okay walking around. Little
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: didn't see a knee brace. Um. They were doing some
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: warm up drills. I hope see him hoping. Yeah, did
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: see him hopping. Yeah, fully fully padded the team. Um,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: but he did hop in on um on one drill.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: So you know, me and Mike Reefs were kind of
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: keeping a close eye on him. Reese thought he was,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: you know, first moving a little, sob I was like,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna do anything, But then
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: he did hop into the drill um that they were
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: doing for warm up. So I guess my guess is
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: he will be listed as limited. Yeah yeah, but then
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: the bad news still no Dugger, no Isaiah win Oh
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: and a new one Jamie Collins as well, that one
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: so h yeah, and obviously Jaylen Mills, Sean Wade, the
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: two guys who were currently high Tower on he was
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: there High Towers there. Uh, the two guys on the
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: COVID list, Mills and and him and then Yady could
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: just returned off COVID. I'll bet you dugger had something.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Who the Mills is not out there? Mills and Mills
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: and Shaan Wader, Yeah there there there, Yeah, those are
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: the only two left on the list now, Um that
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: could just came off. Myles Bryant was out there practicing
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: as well, so UM mentioned him earl about what his
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: condition might be. Oh he's out there, that's good. Yeah.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: Mills definitely, I had forgotten about Sean Wade. Yeah, yeah, earlier.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: What what did he go on like Friday? Maybe it
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: was it seemed like, yeah, it was over. It was
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: back before the game. Yeah, sturdy um. So he was
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: declared out with an illness and then he was put
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: on the COVID host I think like the next day.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: So some significant news definitely with Dugger. I mean that's yeah,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: we're a week two now that that's well, I'm thinking
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: of you a thing broken hand, yeah, I mean it's
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: list that you know, did not participate with a hand injury.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Duce just had it broken, right, And I'm like, oh,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what you think of it like that, Like,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: if it's broken, I don't think he can play. And
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: if correct me from wrong. The last we saw of
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: him was that interception that he almost took to the house, right, Yeah,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know what he did, and he didn't seem
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: like he did anything on that play other than that's
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: the last play he played. That's the last. That's the
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: last I noticed. That's the last I noticed that anything
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: could have happened after that, right, But like we normally
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: notice or get word of, you know, somebody going in
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: the tent for observation or not, like, and that was
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: third quarter, so there was still plenty of time left
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: in the game. For them to have made an announcement
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: about him. I don't remember seeing anything happened to me.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Maybe he slipped on some ice or something. Yeah, it's
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: something random because I don't know, like I like you,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: you could have one of those related you can have
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: one of those clubs on right. Well, that's what I
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: mean front. I don't think you could play safety with Hardy.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: You know if it was just a I don't know,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: Griffin plays with one hand, right he does, a point
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: will be done. It can be done. Just cut it off.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: We gotta play the bills. This again, like Ronnie Lott
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: with the finger out right, big game coach. This is
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: what I lose the hand. Yeah, Um, mood pretty good,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: pretty lively, pretty lively. It's always fun being down on
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: the you know, on the state. We're inside the stadium,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: so um. But yeah, a little loud, you know, some chirping,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: and I mean it was it was. It wasn't as
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: cool as yesterday, but it was windy and it definitely
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: started to catch up with you a little bit when
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: when we were standing out there watching a few drills. Um,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: but yeah, it's some some good uh, you know, I
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: always we're gonna laugh because it's the from the summer
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: when the football rolled to me, like you know, and
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: I have another I had another football moment where like
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: one of the football is like kind of just came
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: right to my feet, and it's just that like anate urge,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: you have to be like, I really like to pick
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: that football up and just fire it to somebody right now, like, um,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: but induced this thing. Hey, that guy's got a pretty
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: good arm. Out of here, kid, I'm not coming back
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: to the show. Guys any bread squad, it's your arm.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: I do think that's like my anytime I see Mick Lombardi,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: because you know, the receiver's coach, he's throwing warm up
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: passes and I'm like, can that could that be my job?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: Just come out throw warm up passess the receivers. I
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: think that would be That would be fun. But in
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: our actions, uh no. Bit he was at midfield doing
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: doing his usual warm up and screen passes that kind
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: of thing. Nothing, nothing, a note. It was just tough
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: because you're in the end zone and they're warming up
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: across so you're trying to get numbers, but you're also
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: on ground level, so they're all crossing and you know,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: so and it's me Reese, Andrew Callahan and Jim McBride
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out who's who you know when you're O'Collins,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: where's you know it's So it was a little bit
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: a little bit harried as usual at this time of year,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: especially when they go in the stadium. So didn't catch
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: anything any human interest moments with mac. All right, well
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: that's the Mike Dousseau second last report one of the week,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: maybe the week, Yes, the second to last one of
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  Speaker 1: Dan from Maine, first time emailer, first year listening. I
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  Speaker 1: adjustments would you make? Well, we've been talking about that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe that's what they do to switch it up.
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  Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, it's you know, Josh Allen's thinking,
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  Speaker 1: i'd know the answer to this. But like of the
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  Speaker 1: what did they do? Like what was their game plan?
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: Is it just they had better you know, secondary than
• 1:18:16
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• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: they're looking at all that film. Yeah, I try to
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: figure that out, and I don't know if it's if
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  Speaker 1: it's anything like I mean, nothing that I've seen or
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• 1:18:32
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  Speaker 1: you know, we were talking today about I don't even
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: know how it came up. We were talking about the
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: Chargers and we're talking about that AFC Championship game in
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: over seven, and you're like, you know, that was the
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: day the Chargers blew an opportunity like they had the
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: Patriots on an off day. Brady threw three picks. They
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: were they were ripe to be beaten that day, and
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: they couldn't take advantage because they're all pro. Running back
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: was in a code on the sideline, right, you know,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: refusing to play while the courts play the twenty cl
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: right Kelly and salt Lake. I think McDaniel should call
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: a play action shot, play straight away, something that looks
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: run heavy, where maybe only two guys actually run real roots.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: But I think Buffalo is gonna have nine guys in
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: the box. If you come out and it looks like run,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: take your chances, nothing to lose. You're the underdogs and ps.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: Eric's take the ball first idea is catching traction. I
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: still say get a stop first. One of the I
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: think there's a chance they could do it, just because
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: they did it in the playoffs before. Like, I think
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: there's a chance that he might look at it and say,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: this is this is the time we're going to switch
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: it out. And maybe maybe he's trying to catch Buffalo unprepared.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe Buffalo is thinking all week Okay, they
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: win the toss, they're gonna get it, you know, and
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: and then all say, oh, oh, what's this? And then
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: I'll just be glad I'm not sitting next to you,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: But just out of curiosity there, what's the lack of preparation.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: I know I'm not gonna win the toss. I know
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: he's going to defer. I will FaceTime you do. Oh god,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: damn it. Jeans in Ottawas. He's just going to text
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: me the eyeballawa. I assume it's French. He is French.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: I simply wanted to voice my disappointment with the Patriots
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: having to face the Bills this weekend. I think we
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: have to recognize that our boys are just not quite
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: up to the challenge. Yes, in any given day, anything
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: can happen, but realistically, a victory this weekend is a
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: long shot. My concern is the long term effect this has.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: The more entrenched the Bills become beating the Patriots, the
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: tougher it will be for the Patriots to regain the crown.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: Just as we now have the Miami curse, we will
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: face a Bill's barricade and the fear that helped the
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: Patriots dominate for twenty years will have faded. So I
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: hope that the Patriots can surprise us this weekend, but
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: I'm not optimistic, and I'm concerned that this will have
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: a long term psychological impact on the team. And by
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: the way, I purchased a thorough gun last week based
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: on comments from the postgame show, and I'm thrilled with it.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: There you go, So there you go, seving that product. Product. Yeah,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: well we're moving product. I'd love to see, asked the
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: email or how he feels about the Dolphins who have
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: beaten the Patriots. Now, Well, he mentioned that, did he
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: Miami curse? You have the Miami curse, but at least
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: they're not as good as you in the standings. Oh
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: that was a big thing for you, Like you sort
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: of feel like they're behind the Dolphins too. I mean,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: does that uh lesson in any way with Flora's leaving
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: a little bit. I mean, I just think Flora's knows
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: the Patriots, and so what if they what if they
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: get a guy in there that you think is a
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: really good coach, We'll see, we'll see. I mean I don't,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not can I get a list ahead of time?
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: I want to fread you. I mean, if it's a retread,
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: if it's like I don't know, I think Jill, I
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: think it probably well, yeah, I mean, you know, if
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: it's at all retreads the same, yeah, no. But if
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: it's like it was Josh, I just think there's something
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: about Brian Flores and his aggressiveness and loved his you
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: know what he did here in his one season as
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, and I just think he brings something
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: special to the bat rivalry. You know, he's going to
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: be up for this game. You know he's going to
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: try to get his guys up for this game. You know,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: not to say that, oh, another guy comes in and
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: can't get that performance out, but there's just something special
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: about a guy who was here and understands everything that
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: needs to happen going into this game to beat the
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: team Patriots. I mean the proof is in the pudding.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: He's done it. What what was for? And two against
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: the Patriots in his time? Yeah? Well, what do you
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: think about the report that Cassario down in Houston is saying,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: somehow I'd like to get Josh down here in some capacities,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: some capacity. I think what does that mean is I
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: have to think that they're trying to do that out
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: of respect for David Culley, Like what capacity could we
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: be talking about other than head coach? Quality? Quality control? Yeah,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: Like you don't realistically think that he's going to leave
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: New England to become the Texans offensive coordinator, do you? Well? No,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: he talks well, from what I'm told, no money more
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: than Josh McDaniels, Right, but maybe they even up that
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: and your assistant head coach and offensive coordinator, and you're
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: gonna make four million more money dollars a year than
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: you're making. Why not just make him the head coach? Yeah?
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: I think that it's I think he's talking about the
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: head coach, but he doesn't want to say we got
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: to get him down here is the head coach because oh,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: by the way, they have a head coach under contract. Yeah, fired,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: this is something to be said generally though, about hiring
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinators as head coaches and having concerns that that
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: everything you like about this coach's offense and what they've
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: done is going to be able to translate when he
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: takes on the responsibilities of the head coach. Now, maybe
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: Sean mcvagh is an example of you know, he's more
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: invested in the offense. But you know, I just would
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: be curious how much if you're worried that, all, right, well,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: we've got a young quarterback, is Josh can be able
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: to fully focus on developing him or he can have
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: so much on his plate team building finding other guys
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: that it's not going to pay off the way you
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: think it will because he's not going to give the
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: undivided attention like he's able to give as the offensive coordinator.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: I think you'd have to assume that he has coaches
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: that he's bringing with him who share the same philosophy
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: or the same type of skills, and that you know
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: he will pay attention in the time that he has
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: he has to obviously be the head coach as well,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: but that he's got the staff that can do that
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: with him, and then to those coaches. Then when the
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: defense is on the field, are they like, how how
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: involved are they? That's my bigger concern than the first thing,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: because I think people consider Belichick have having been instrumental
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: in developing Brady, right sure. I think when when you
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: think of great coach quarterback, it's Bill Walsh, Joe Montana,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: it's Belichick, Brady, it's you know that kind of you know,
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: Mike Holmgren, Brett Farve, like, do you think of the
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: coach and the quarterback? But I worry about Deuce's thing
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: with some of these guys, and there are very few
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: guys like Bill. Bill clearly he's in charge of the
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: entire team. Yeah, I think most of these guys. Andy
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: Reid is a guy who I have an immense amount
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: of respect for. As you guys all know, he is
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: one of those guys that he's buried in his playsheet
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: and when the defense is on the field, he ain't
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: even the name of looking it's all SPACs. Now, that's
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: what you need. If you have a guy who is,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: you know, invested on one side of the ball or
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: the other, you better have a really strong presence at
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: coordinator for the side that you're not concerned, you know,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: Steve Spagnola in Kansas City is one of those guys. Um,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: you know, Sean McVeigh has had you know, Wade Phillips
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: in the past. I think you know, um, what's his face?
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: My analytics buddy? Why can I not think of the
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator left in uh the Staley right, Brandon Staley,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: the chargership guy. He was his defensive coordinator last year,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: right with the Rams, Like, you better have a good
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: coordinator who's taking care of that side of the ball
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: for you, because if you just have you know, anybody
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: over there and then you're worried, like you're gonna be
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: You're gonna be like I don't think there are a
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: lot of guys like Bill that walk over to like
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: the punt team and be like, yeah, you got it,
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah anybody Funny brough up Staley because I was thinking
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: about the exact same thing you just mentioned where he's
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: kind of got all this praise for his defensive knowledge
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: and everything, but now it's become on the other side
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: of the every time kind the one from your eighteen
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: coaching malpractice, Uh, Tom and Birmingham, England. Is there any
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: chance that one reason for our limited performances in the
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: last month is wear and tear. Not many people have misstime,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: but our participation report is full of players with limited participation.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: Bill has often filled the list in the past. But
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: are we simply less healthy than our opponents this year?
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: Well maybe right now, but most of the season, I
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: think you've been most of the pretty lucky. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: I think White and Jones, those are those are two
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: big losses that you know, but everybody's got I think
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: losses on those levels. It's not those aren't catastrophic losses
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: that completely changed the dynamic your team. Certainly James White,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, it hurts, but um, but now it's it's
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: getting dicey, it's getting dicey in the second area. And
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: it's just I think what's frustrating is that, you know,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: it's just a drum that you've been beaten since the draft.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: They need more quarterbacks, they need to add, the need
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: to add, and it could get worse than the right now,
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: it's coming home to roost with I mean, it has
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: been sort of noticeable in the last two weeks that
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: the other team's injury report has been minis school compared
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: to the Patriots. But for the most part during the year.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: I think the other team has been lacking more personnel
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: than the Patriots half, yes, yeah, but older, older guys
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: too though. I mean, you know that that's not a
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: bad point. Don't think that Tower has been on you know,
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: he he's dealing with stuff again, and I mean it's
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: just I think that's you know, and Nikovitch was talking
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: about it this morning, and I know everybody's in the
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: every rookies in the same boat, but rookie quarterbacks in particular.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: You know, Matt Jones hasn't had a break since training
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: camp of his senior year at Alabama. You know, it's
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: been non stop since then, you know. And I think
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: it's different for a quarterback because it's so much more
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: mental too. It's not just the physical course. And I
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: don't think it's unreasonable to think that, you know, maybe
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: he is a little worn down, sure, you know, oh,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: I mean people pooh poo it, oh, but it's you know,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: he's had to take in a lot, oh my god,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: a lot right in. I mean, you're in a quarterback
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: competition in the summer, you learn a whole new offense.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: And I mean just I think that's what you forget,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: is what a grind. The NFL is I mean, this
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: is the NFL. This is a quarterback playing, you know,
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: seventeen games for the first time. He's never really had
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: to deal with weather for Bill Belichick, and right, every
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: game is huge. I mean especially the last like month,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: I mean every game. I mean, the way the Colts
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: were ready to play and um, it's a lot. It's Uh.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: I was thinking a little bit about Mac and just yeah,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: don't prepare it to ready not ready semantic argument a ready. Um.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: But I think of Matt kind of like he's kind
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: of been like the freshman on the team this year,
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: and you know, we kind of bust his chops a
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: little bit about stuff, but you know, just next year
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: coming and then then then you go. But I'd love
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: to see him come back just with a little bit
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: more presence to him, but and a little more relaxed
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: and not this kind of like you know, freshman kind
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: of attitude that yeah, you know, just I mean it
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: doesn't have to come in like Joe Burrow cool, smoking
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: a cigar and like I don't know, but just a
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: little bit less and uh, you know, reaction and the
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: demonstrative nature of banging his arms, you know, just you
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: have a bad play, Hey, we'll walk off the field
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: like I'm at walk off like field. I remember early
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: in the season there was one game we lost at
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: home and Max spent a lot of time sitting on
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: the bench. Then he decided to get up and Bill
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: have bills like no, no, get to the locker room.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: Bill had to like drag him off the bench and
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: buy the wrist and no, no, no, basically act like
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: a man. Ye, this is this is what we do.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't, I mean and I didn't. The super embarrassing
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: thing too, that you know that you know a lot
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: of questions today, people thinking about you know, that being
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: too hard on himself. But you know, it's just choose
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: your words a little more carefully. Well, you know, we
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: were talking about it also. You know with this quarterback,
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: you hear a lot of you know, we can't feel
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: sorry for ourselves. You know, is he really talking about
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: the team or talking about himself? Is he projecting? You know?
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: And if that's the case, that's not a good thing. Like,
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: don't feel sorry for yourself. Get get out there and
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: the starting quarterbacks on this job. You're turn the page
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: of doing it. Yeah, there's nothing to feel sorry about
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah that we'll see thanks for the next
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: summer or too. Yeah, Proney says a nice discussion on
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: preparedness and non preparedness. My two cents on it is
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: if you have good players like Brady or Aaron Rodgers,
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: they can help you get away from this criticism ninety
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: percent of the time by making plays. Or if you
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: have young team assembled and not been in big situations
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: or don't have experience, it comes out to normal people
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: as coming out flat, even though they might be playing
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: the same as before. On the other note, I don't
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: know the history of the Bills coaching, but he had
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: won super Bowls with either Tom Brady or Lawrence Taylor,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: who are the greatest to play in the sport. But
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: I get the feeling he never tries to now we're
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: talking about Bill, but I get the feeling he never
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: tries to get players in the draft who are athletically
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: gifted like Lawrence Taylor, since he had firsthand knowledge of
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: how it can change a team if a player like
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: him is present. Don't it's a little bit convoluted. I
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: really understand it. I do think he considers personalities in
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: the locker room, and you know what, happens when you know,
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: a first overall pick is bigger than the team. I
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: think he does consider the locker room hierarchy, you know,
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: and that's why it's always important to have your guys,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: your circle, the wagon guys, which then allows you to
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: maybe take a chance on guys who might be a
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: little bit of a loose cannon here and there, which
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: I think he's done too. Yeah, I would just disagree
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: with the whole he's not interested in physically gifted guys
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: like I think there's a million examples of flamed out
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: first round picks that he falls in love with the
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: talent and says, I can I can fix it? I mean,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: and and he gives him a shot. He's but now
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: they come in humble. He succeeded at some time. Yeah,
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, coaches have to deal with personality, right,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: That's that's the biggest part of a coach's job is
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: dealing with all the different personalities that you have in
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: a locker room. But I think to make a blanket
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: statement saying he's not interested in physically gifted guys, oh no, no,
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of silly. Yeah, but he does,
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: you know, I I think there is something to that
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: email in that, you know, as as great as Lawrence
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: Taylor was, a guy like that can derail your team
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: if you're not careful. Yeah, or a Randy Moss even
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: or you know Pie Pipers. Yeah, you know. And yet
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: you just rattled off a great example of him gravitating
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: to that guy. Oh yeah, yeah, he's it's not like,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: and not only giving it to him, but then giving
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: him a contract on top of it. I did the
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: same thing with Corey Dillon, right, and he felt like
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: I have the structure in place to be able to
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: absorb that, you know. So I don't think he backs
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: away from those guys that are immensely talented. But I
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: also think I've always kind of believed that he just
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: naturally gravitates towards the kind of guys that might go
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: to Navy. It's like the naturally gravitates two versatile players, right,
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: That's like he always says, you know, I'll take a
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: guy like Lawrence Taylor if he's that good at that thing.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: But he, I think, is always looking for a guy
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: who can do all of the different things that hit
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: you know, whatever the position is. Yeah, and that's going
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: to lead you to a guy who's probably a little
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: bit less skilled because not he doesn't want the skill,
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: he wants versatility Jack of all. Yeah, master and and
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: I think that's where he gets in trouble sometimes. But
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: there's countless examples of him going after the most talented. Yeah,
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: and I think that's the other That was the other
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: part I was going to say. I think there's always
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: something about those generational players that you know, just unique,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: and and then he'll always give them a chance. It's
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: a question I've kind of wanted to ask him. I
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: haven't really had the right opportunity, But you know, guy
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: like John Lee who was here for a week, three
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: weeks fret Patriots, John Lyncher, But I think that that
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: was always looks a non bus But that was always
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: an example for me of when those guys, you know,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: Torry Holt, he was here for a week, Ridgie Wayne
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: for a little bit. Guys are always just but even
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: if they're not, Okay, they don't all work, No, they don't.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: They're immensely talented players. Some have worked. But but is
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: there a difference between gravitating toward the immensely talented players
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: in their second time around and taking him fresh out
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: of college. So like like Chad Jackson at Bethel Johnson
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: for example, for example, like you got DK Metcalf or
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: you got to kill Harry. They mentally talented players. Maybe
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: the report with Harry is, you know, he doesn't He's
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: not as outgoing as Metcalf. Metcalf is, cocky metcalf is,
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: you know from day one, he's you know, and maybe
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: that's a difference maker from Bill. I don't know, you know,
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: I think it is. I think there was something about
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: Harry's ability to a willingness to block. Yeah that again
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: back to that he does everything. But I think Harry
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: was one of the most physically gifted players at that
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: position coming out. Oh he still looks like a beast.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: Just wasn't what now, it hasn't translated some guys. I
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: mean that's that's the way it is. But it hasn't
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: translated on the field. But that's where he came into
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: the league as one of the most physically gifted players
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: at that position coming I mean Chad Jackson too, I
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: mean he's probably even jack Bethel Johnson was as fast
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: as any guy I've ever seen, I mean, just ridiculous speed,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: and they ended up trading him for Jonathan Sullivan, a
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: flamed out first round pick on the defensive line. Yeah, well,
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: you know, again, another very talented guy didn't work out, right.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: But I think it's more personality than the talent. You know,
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: when the when the talent is coupled with you know,
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: a alpha type of personality, like I remember Bethel Johnson
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: here in saying the more someone tells me to do something,
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: the more I don't want to do it. I'm thinking myself,
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: that's not gonna work here. Yeah, you know, well, what
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: else was it? Were his issues? Because I really didn't
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: study the team is like I did starting in oh six, like,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: but because he was kind of before that, like what
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: was his like how did they see? Was he kind
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: of the outside X speed down the field guy like
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: Fred just yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, Fred, Fred's blazing speed.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: Fred's anecdotes, I think is why he didn't work. Yeah.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: I think there was, and it's not secondhand. I heard
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: him say I remember a time that um, you know,
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: remember we used to walk in the locker room Eric
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: a lot of times and there was like the Domino's
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: tables and yeah, Random actually did a feature on that.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: Random Reindeer Games would be going on. It was one
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: day Bethel Johnson had like an umbrella and someone was
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: pitching like tape balls into him as we were walking
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: in and McGinnis just came over and he goes you
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: all up to speed in your playbook. M h. These
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: are the kinds of things that you think of when
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: you see young players and then they don't work out
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, I know why it didn't work out.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: There it is, Yeah, I know why it didn't work out.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: I mean it's hard enough just evaluating college kids generally
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: as they go in to the professional world. I mean,
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: it's just a whole new environment generally for anybody that
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: you're going from being a kid and you know, not
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: really having responsibilities to now you know all the pressures
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: and everything of Bills and I mean it's obviously in
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: an NFL situation, it's familiar in one sense that you're
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: playing football, but it's it's a totally different world now
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: with reporters asking you questions and you know, needing to
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: be a professional football And that's why I agree with
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: Fred's premise of it's the talent with a certain mindset,
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: a maturity, because I think that Bill looks at It's
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: like the guys that got by with their share ability
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: in college. Now we're going to go into a league
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: where everybody has that ability. Yeah yeah, So what separates
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: you now is do you have a drive and a
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: work ethic that is going to match your physical skills
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: and then you become reality Moss. Yeah yeah, I think,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: you know, you become one of those guys that that
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: is hungry. And you know, Moss came in and set
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: the world on fire with Minnesota. It wasn't you know
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: a lot of people think, you know, he set the
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: record with the Patriots. That's where he's got his career.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: He was a great Hall of Fame player before he
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: ever I mean, he cemented the Hall of Fame with
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: the Patriots, but he was already Hall of Fame worthy
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: before he ever got here. So that's marrying that, you know.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: And how many times has Bill said he was one
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: of the smartest football players I've ever seen, right about
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: Randy Moss, And I don't think a lot of people
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: outside would have thought of him that way. That's why
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: it clicked immediately when he got here, because he was
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: as smart as Tom Brady. Yes, you know, somebody. Everything
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: I think was kind of how we put it. Yeah,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: it goes into like the serious football guys, and that's
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: what I always thought, like, dugger kind of is like
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: these guys when you come in, you're like, yeah, you're
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: twenty four, but you sound like you are very serious
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: and you know what you're gonna do here, and football
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: is very important. Just there's no like I can't believe
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: I'm here, you know, wide eyes. I wonder I don't
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: know why this hasn't occurred to me before, but what
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: Randy's career here would have been like if they had
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: won in two thousand and seven. Yeah, you know, if
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: he gotten the ring and they had completed that journey
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: that year, would he still have been as sour as
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: as the years? I think he would have wanted the
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: money even faster. Do you think it would have been worse? Well,
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: it could have been, yeah, yeah, And I mean he
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: left because he wanted more money, right, the whole respect thing.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: He got traded. He got traded, but only after he
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: had the respect equal money. He had quit the year
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: before halfway through the year, but he wasn't getting touches.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: He wanted more money though, right, No, he didn't leave
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: over money. He left over his role. He was pouting
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: after that. Remember that Monday night win where they had
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: like Patrick Chung returned. I think he returned to pick
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: and they blocked a No, I think Nick might have
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: had a pick six. Chung blocked a field and returned.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: He had like nothing, He had nothing to do with
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: a blowout win, and he was pouting after the game.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: That's why he left because he had no role and
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: he was talking out, absolutely talked his way out. He
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: quit on the field in the middle of the O
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: nine season. Yeah, I remember vividly in a game against
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: Carolina and it was like a three nothing game at
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: the half. They got booed mercilessly going off the field
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: and Randy Moss went through the motions the whole rest.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: I think he was going through the motions because he
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: got the contract Fred. He wasn't money. No, they gave
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: him the money. No, that's the problem. Was he give
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: those guys the money. It was just one. It was
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: a long term in a for him. I remember, I
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: remember he wanted a longer term deal. Quick little news
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: item aside, the NBC Sports Boston has it up. The
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: Bears are requesting to talk to Elliot. I was looking
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: for that tweat because I saw that real Quatriots personnel guy,
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: I figured somebody in our personnel would be going because
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: we seem to be top loaded a little bit. You know,
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: We've got Elliott Wolf, We've got um who's the other
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: guy that they brought A Ziegler, Dave Ziegler. They've got
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: you know, I felt like one of them is probably
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: gonna go somewhere, and he was an the Packers Packers
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: guy too. Yeah, go back to the NFC North, Yeah,
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: joelan Ottawa writes in I'm all in favor of the
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: Patriots taking the ball first if we win. The coin
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: talks amazing how much mileage we're getting. Yeah, not because
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: I think they can march down the field and score,
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: but because I think Gunner is due to run one back.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: I just hope there's no peel back block. I have
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: low expectations for this game, but happy with the season
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: and looking forward to next year already. Yeah, I kind
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: of I'm kind of going into this game with an
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: open mind. I don't really feel the playoff nerves and jitters,
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: and I think the hopefully that's how they feel. They
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: just go in and play, all right, We got some
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: people that have been holding on for a while, So
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: let's take some phone calls to end the show. Williams
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, William Philly, what's up William? Oh? You you
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: held down for so long and now you're not the
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: job hardy? Oh? Okay? Hop about Rashad in Baltimore? What's
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: up Rashad? The stuff and stuff? I just, um, I
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: guess I had a little quick thing. Um, I don't know.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: I was listening to nine eight point five this morning.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: They were talking about sorry, you know, and how he
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: um like been going out for self like I guess
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: when he passed up. If he's literally just starting over
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: the quarterback and he doesn't get on, you know, just
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: get a job. I'm just asking to you guys, thinking
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: he is like like this is like gestimental to the thing,
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: like he's it's like the only word about the stuff
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: and not his wounds, you know, when he's containing the
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: ads or whatever it is. I want to hear you
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: that stuff. Yeah, So if I if I get the
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: gist of your do you think that him him being
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: down on his performance is kind of a selfish thing?
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying? Yeah, I'm yeah, I'm I'm
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: thinking like the lad I don't know, like the last
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: four six weeks is like, you know, I guess when
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: he passed up that he literally just r just the
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: quarterback and that's that. Like he doesn't, you know, try
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: to anything else, like if somebody the quarterback, you know,
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: he might run a little bit, then he'll just give up. Yeah,
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know that. I don't know. I you know, um,
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: thanks for the call. You know. The question with him
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: is is there something else? Has he heard a little
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: bit that we don't know about. Someone had said he
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: might be dealing with a rib injury, Yeah, some sort,
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. He definitely is frustrated out there.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: I mean that play, you know, the call that he
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: had that was unnecessary, that's out of frustration he's not
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: getting there. Then the question is is that all he's
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: good for is getting to the quarterback and you know,
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: you know that, I don't know, like you know, in
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: the run game, is he a liability and he has
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: to come off the field. I'm not sure. I thought
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: he was a pretty well rounded player. Well that's what's funny.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: And I think we talked about this on I don't
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: know which show, but but Paul brought up when he
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: when he we signed him. I think we all kind
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: of agreed, like it's a good edge setter, but I
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to bring any pass rush heat.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: Like that was I think our impression to him arriving. Um,
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: So it was a little bit surprising, you know, I
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: mean a little bit right when he was just a
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: dominant pass rusher route. I think there's times when he
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: struggles with the Patriots approach at times where it's you know,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: like don't let the quarterback out of the pocket and
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: contain and I think that that might be hard for
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: him at times, like like I don't know how many
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: tackles did he have in the last game. I know
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: I saw him have at least one, you know, on
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: a run play. Yeah, you know, like it's not like
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: he shies away from it, no, you know. But I
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: think what's frustrating too, is that you've seen I mean
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: Miami play, Judan had three tackles, three tackles, you know,
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: by a lot of accounts, Miami had the worst offensive
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: line in the league. So you know, just that I
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: think that exacerbates the in retrospect what you're thinking of
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: his play I just I think he's got to be
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: unleashed this weekend to say, you know, we always talk
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: about Bill taking away that one guy. You know, we
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: remember games here with JJ Watter or Clay Matthews where
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: they just weren't a factor. Well, if you're a if
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: you're another team after midway through the season, you're like,
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: we can't let Judon do that. Yeah, you know, so
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: that they might be just focusing on him enough where
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: I disagree he's just not getting there. I go back
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: to a and he had three tackles and each of
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: the two Buffalo games as well. So he hasn't been
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: effective in a long time. But uh, the Kyle van
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: Noy thing that I brought up to you guys yesterday,
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: there's an older podcast that Van Noy appeared with Chris Long. Um,
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: it's got to be like two months ago now. Somebody
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: tweeted about yesterday. But there's been a clip that they've
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: played on the radio a lot. I you know, I
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: didn't hear the whole podcast, so I might be guilty
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: of taking a clip in extrapolating. But Chris Long is
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: talking now. Chris Long, if you remember, came here, did
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: what he was told to do for one year, didn't
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't like it. Right, one has spoken, no ill
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: will whatsoever. Bill Belichick loves Bill Belichick, but I didn't
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: like having to play the style that he had to
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: play to be successful here, right, and was outspoken about
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: Benet's that one, and that's why he left. YEA, so
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: he said to U, Kyle Vannoys, it looks to me
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: from watching Judeon and I'm paraphrasing, maybe Mike can get
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: the exact quote, it looks to me like Judon takes
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: a lot of those nine yard loops behind the quarterback
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: and he's is he just allowed to do whatever he
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: wants and that's how he's getting these sacks. And Vannoy
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: started laughing and said, no comment. Oh so, which tells
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: me that sometimes you're racking up sacks and everybody thinks
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: that you're doing great. Right, Maybe Bill Belichick didn't think
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: he was doing so great the way he was playing, right,
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: And those sacks a great coverage and we well, just
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: in general or like inexperienced quarterbacks running into it, which
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: happened at least a couple of times that we can recall. Yeah,
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: the one that he had the last sac that he
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: had in Buffalo was the play that Alan tripped over
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: his lineman's feet and then he got up and didn't
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: realize that he wasn't down, and then he ran right
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: into Judean right. That was the sack Um. So I
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: think that sometimes if that's in fact true, if he's
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: sort of freelancing, like I absolutely think he was out
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: of position quite frequently over the last two months. I
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: thought Tennessee ran right at him because he gets upfield
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: and they run right inside him. Yeah, and Tua was
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: able to make that last play to end the game.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: The other to to officially end the game Um by
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: getting the first down on the third and eight scramble
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: because he's way upfield. And I think that's been a
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: consistent thing. So I don't again, I don't know, like
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not the defensive coordinator. I don't know.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: But I just found that that whole dynamic interesting with
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: Chris Long and Kyle van Noy sort of talking about
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: the way he goes like, Okay, but don't you don't
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: you never put your teammate under the bus like that,
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: even a no comment, you don't do that, and he laughed, Yeah,
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: you just to say, yeah, I could get twelve and
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: I have zags if I just like you're just in
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  Speaker 1: the basement, Chris Lawn. It's a podcast that people are
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  Speaker 1: gonna listen to, and I think that's something with those podcasts.
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  Speaker 1: I think that comes into play. Fred. Ye think they
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  Speaker 1: get comfortable. We're just doing a podcast out of the
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  Speaker 1: guy's house, like no one's listening. It's like guys that
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  Speaker 1: would come in here and they get too comfortable. And
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  Speaker 1: now we can't have guys. I don't have guests, right,
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  Speaker 1: we can't have nice things. You couldn't find that I
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  Speaker 1: could change as I was trying to looking for it.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, I think you uh, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: our resident cartoonist, doctor McLeod, Yes, he's had some really
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  Speaker 1: good ones. Later, what's the one was with Eldred designed
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  Speaker 1: with driving That's a good one. And on the phone
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  Speaker 1: is Eldred, what's up Eldred? I think about Matt. Y'all
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  Speaker 1: worry about Matt this game right here? Off game first
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  Speaker 1: time in NFL, and yeah, and I was biggle without
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  Speaker 1: coming at him with a kitchen think everything, and the
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  Speaker 1: I'm not like freaking out worried. I'm curious to see
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  Speaker 1: how he's gonna do, man, you know, but I have
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  Speaker 1: faith in mac. Yeah, okay. And then one more thing, Paul,
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  Speaker 1: You're right owned with mouse. He got mad because they
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  Speaker 1: faded him out to fight. He faded him out of
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  Speaker 1: dolf I know he wanted his kitchen, he wanted to
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  Speaker 1: you know, Jimmy right, Yeah, I remember it. I know it.
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  Speaker 1: It was. I mean, everybody thinks they're underpaid. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying that money is you know, was no object. But
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  Speaker 1: he just signed a three year, twenty seven million dollar
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  Speaker 1: contract that everybody universally despised the day they signed it.
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  Speaker 1: And then oh, by the way, he quit halfway through it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he quit. Wasn't because of money. It was because he
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  Speaker 1: wasn't getting his touch. Brian was Dolfins coordinator, did and
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  Speaker 1: he faded him out because if you go back to that,
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  Speaker 1: it if they're the greatest. When he played back the game,
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  Speaker 1: when the guy got to us after that two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and the Super Bowl we lost to the Giant, promptly stayed,
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  Speaker 1: we've got a change something because I'm getting tired of
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  Speaker 1: the shut most down and welcome on half of the field.
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  Speaker 1: So he went to the tight end. That's when you
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: got on Nanz and you got grunk. And they also
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  Speaker 1: gave him praises for like I said, running decore and
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: they was getting open. So that's how they went him.
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  Speaker 1: But he got tired. He did quit. I admit that
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  Speaker 1: he did quit because they faded him out the offense
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  Speaker 1: and men, like I said, I was happy when they
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  Speaker 1: side most first stake because I did say super Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: but we didn't win. It did go yeah, all right,
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  Speaker 1: thanks already. I wonder how much Rex Ryan and the
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  Speaker 1: Jets kind of influenced that that shift um to Dion
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  Speaker 1: Branch and you know, I think losing in nine and ten,
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  Speaker 1: I think part of that was, I mean, Rivus obviously
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  Speaker 1: being there, but I always thought that that was somewhat
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  Speaker 1: influenced by we gotta get the ball all quick, They're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be pressuring us a ton, that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, he was asked, I just looking this up
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  Speaker 1: and someone has a little bit of a some murray,
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: and it said, um. For example, the coach tip typically
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: prohibits rushes from running past the passer during a pass rush.
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  Speaker 1: It seems Judon is allowed to do that in part
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  Speaker 1: because he could somehow generate sacks from that point no comment.
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  Speaker 1: Van Noy said, let's throwing your teammate under the bus.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry you got to do play Devil's advocate. Could
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  Speaker 1: he just have been trying not to get himself in
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  Speaker 1: trouble with giving away a game plan? Van Noy, I'm
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: talking about that. He must laugh him because Long was
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: no longer probably nailed it right. But the way, the
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  Speaker 1: way Long brought it up to Van Noy, this is
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  Speaker 1: why I wish we had the clip. But um, you know,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: Matt's too busy making fun of us in his opens.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: Look look at he's getting. I could kill you in
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  Speaker 1: a variety of ways, um, special talent. The way Long
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  Speaker 1: brought it up to Vannoi was in a sort of
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  Speaker 1: like tongue in cheek. I know, I know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and you know that I know, right you ain't supposed
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  Speaker 1: to do it that way with Vannois, Like I can't
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  Speaker 1: believe you, but I can't believe you brought up but
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  Speaker 1: right now you know that's the way I think it
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: all went down. Yeah, that makes sense, That's that's what
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  Speaker 1: sells me. But I think the Van Nois response to
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  Speaker 1: my car Yeah, no, I mean all there are always
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  Speaker 1: times when we kind of do say he's fine. To
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: Fred's point, that should have been Van Noois's answer, right, right,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know anyway. That's gonna be it
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. We'll be back tomorrow
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: on Thursday. But hurry kind of like a Friday because
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: it's a Saturday game. We got picks. We don't have
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: to hurry. We don't have to hurry. I was last
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: week just a were people mostly good? No, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody was really good. No, okay, all right,
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: last week of the season is tough. Yeah, all right,
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  Speaker 1: that's all right. That's all I wanted to know. Yeah, mediocre.
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  Speaker 1: We'll save it. We'll save if everybody was adequate about
• 1:54:03
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