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Highlights for Curtis and Larry · Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: Oh, what a day it was here yesterday on the
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  Speaker 1: floor of iHeartRadio, not just here at 710WR, your number
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  Speaker 1: one talk station in the nation, but also all of
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  Speaker 1: our FM brothers and sisters in solidarity because, Larry, the
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  Speaker 1: North Shore Animal League of America brought puppies in that
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  Speaker 1: they had rescued in South Carolina where they didn't do
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  Speaker 1: any neutering and spading, and boy, these poor puppies would
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  Speaker 1: have been... killed, but they do such a good job
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  Speaker 1: rescuing unwanted dogs all over the country and then finding
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  Speaker 1: a home of their own. And I got to tell you,
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  Speaker 1: you can actually see it posted. I was over at
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  Speaker 1: Classic Rock Q104. 3, normally with Jim Kerr in the morning,
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  Speaker 1: but Maria Malito, and she has her own podcast about
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  Speaker 1: animal welfare. She loves animals and you'll see She's holding
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  Speaker 1: one of these rescued puppies. I'm there. Oh, man, it
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  Speaker 1: was like Puppy Love, that song. What is that, Puppy Love?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Osmonds, I think that is. I saw a
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  Speaker 2: picture of Natalie with a puppy, and it looks like
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  Speaker 2: she's going to adopt a puppy. I'm not sure if
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  Speaker 2: her family knows this yet, but it sounds like that
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  Speaker 2: puppy's going home with you.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: I was really taken by those puppies.
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  Speaker 3: They are having an event this weekend on Saturday in
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  Speaker 3: Port Washington called you might find me there.
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  Speaker 1: I got to tell you, I've been there many times
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  Speaker 1: and there's no smell. The animals are happy. Like some
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  Speaker 1: shelters I've seen around the country, they're drugged up. So
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  Speaker 1: they're like sedated, not there. And boy, people get a
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  Speaker 1: choice of whether it's dogs, cats, or other animals. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm suggesting if you're, if you're looking for a new friend,
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  Speaker 1: furry friend, a furry friend, Just go to the North
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  Speaker 1: Shore Animal League. It's a great place to go to.
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  Speaker 1: And this is in league with a conversation we had
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  Speaker 1: with you yesterday. Let me say one last thing about
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  Speaker 1: that because I think this is important. Even if you
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  Speaker 1: are thinking about getting a dog, even if you say
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  Speaker 1: to yourself, well, I don't like dogs, but I want
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  Speaker 1: to go see the puppies. I will tell you, I
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  Speaker 1: learned something from Natalie. Natalie's never had a dog in
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  Speaker 1: her life. She held one of these puppies and now
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  Speaker 1: she's actually thinking about getting a dog. And so don't
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  Speaker 1: think to yourself, I'm not a dog person, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to go to this thing. Just if you're nearby,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead over there. You might find some love. Come on.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, Natalie. You can handle it. Look, it's getting
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  Speaker 1: a puppy to train properly is a little difficult. Might
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  Speaker 1: keep you up the few hours that you get some
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  Speaker 1: sleep if they're yelping. But you can handle it, Natalie.
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  Speaker 1: You and your family. I think we can.
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  Speaker 3: We've always talked about maybe when we retire, where we
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  Speaker 3: could spend a lot of time with puppies.
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  Speaker 2: The dog. You only need to spend a whole lot
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  Speaker 2: of time when they're a puppy, I think. I think
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  Speaker 2: they're self-sufficient after they're a puppy. They get lonely. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: nobody knows this, but dogs get depressed too. If you
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  Speaker 2: leave them alone for too long. But let me ask
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  Speaker 2: you a question.
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  Speaker 1: Retire? You ain't retiring. No, I'm not. You've been here
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  Speaker 1: with all three of the gamblers, the legacy. You've been
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  Speaker 1: with every talk show here on WOR, Joan Hamburg, Barry Gray,
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  Speaker 1: all of them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't think she said she was. She said
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  Speaker 2: when I retire. That's what she said. Someday she's going
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  Speaker 2: to retire.
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  Speaker 1: Do it now. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: I thought he liked you.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I do.
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  Speaker 1: But you should have seen it yesterday. She fell in
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  Speaker 1: love with this puppy. Come on. You don't want to
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  Speaker 1: break that puppy's heart. Natalie, that puppy looked at you like,
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  Speaker 1: please take me home. Please take me home. You should
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  Speaker 1: get one.
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  Speaker 2: Even for security alone. I will tell you, I did
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  Speaker 2: two stories called the burglars poll. where we went to
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  Speaker 2: prisons and we talked to people that were in prisons
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  Speaker 2: for burglary. And I did it in Chicago and I
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  Speaker 2: did it in Philadelphia. And the number one deterrent is
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  Speaker 2: a dog. More than security alarms, more than anything else.
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  Speaker 2: Nosy neighbors are number two, by the way. But number
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  Speaker 2: one is a dog. So just think, you want to
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  Speaker 2: get a security alarm. You can have a dog. A
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  Speaker 2: dog is always going to bark and the burglars say,
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  Speaker 2: we just go. As soon as you hear a dog,
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  Speaker 2: we leave. Now, that sounds like a real dog guy.
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  Speaker 2: You've been a dog guy your whole life, right? I
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  Speaker 2: have been, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No cats.
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  Speaker 1: Take us through the transitions of the different dogs you've had.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we bought my grandmother lived in West Philly and
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  Speaker 2: the neighborhood started to turn. So we got her a
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  Speaker 2: dog that was vicious named Bing. And then she came
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  Speaker 2: to live with us. So Bing came to our house.
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  Speaker 2: The vicious dog was in our house for a while.
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  Speaker 2: But for some reason, the dog, I could tame the
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  Speaker 2: vicious dog because I was like three. And the dog
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  Speaker 2: would come up and growl at me, and I'd be
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  Speaker 2: ready for it, and I'd have toothpaste, and I'd rub
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  Speaker 2: it in his mouth. And he'd start sneezing and go away.
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  Speaker 2: So that was the first dog. Then we had another Bing.
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  Speaker 2: And then since then, I've had dogs, geez, everywhere I went,
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  Speaker 2: everywhere I went. I love having a dog. I love
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  Speaker 2: having a dog for a lot of reasons, not just companionship,
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  Speaker 2: but it's smart to have one. especially if you're going
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  Speaker 2: to be away from your apartment or your home because
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  Speaker 2: it is the best security system you can get.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm sure it was good as deer radar, keeping
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  Speaker 1: the deer away, right? Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for saying that. I forgot all about that. Now
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  Speaker 2: we're definitely going to get a dog. I can promise
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  Speaker 2: you we will get a dog because I forgot all
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  Speaker 2: about that. When I tell Dawn, if we get a dog,
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  Speaker 2: there'll be no more deer in our yard. We'll get
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  Speaker 2: one tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: But that was a result of having lost and continuing
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  Speaker 1: to mourn the last dog you had, which was Buddy.
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  Speaker 1: You've had a series of dogs called Buddy, right? Buddy 1,
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  Speaker 1: Buddy 2. What was this, based on the coach of
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  Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles, Buddy Ryan?
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  Speaker 2: Buddy Ryan, no, no, no. The shame of it is
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  Speaker 2: I call my kids Buddy as a nickname, too. So
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  Speaker 2: nobody knows who I'm talking to all the time. But, no,
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  Speaker 2: we've had three German Shepherds. We had a purebred white
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  Speaker 2: German Shepherd. Then we had a police dog. That lasted
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  Speaker 2: like a week because he ran away. And then we
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  Speaker 2: had another one that was a mix between a white
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  Speaker 2: lab and a white German shepherd. Unbelievable dogs. Loved every
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  Speaker 2: one of those dogs. But when the last one died,
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  Speaker 2: Dawn said, I don't know if I could take another
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  Speaker 2: one dying.
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  Speaker 1: I can't.
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  Speaker 2: It hit her really hard.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people are like that. You know, when
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  Speaker 1: they lose a cherished member of their family, because that's
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  Speaker 1: what Buddy was to you. They find it. They know, well,
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  Speaker 1: we could get another dog, but nobody's going to replace Buddy.
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  Speaker 1: And it would remind you of Buddy. But now, deer radar.
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  Speaker 2: Well, aside from that, that's going to make certain. Seal
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  Speaker 2: the deal. That's going to close the deal, yeah. Because
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  Speaker 2: she came to me about a week ago and said,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I think I'm ready to get another dog.
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  Speaker 2: I think I'm ready. So it sounds like that's going
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  Speaker 2: to make it happen. Wait till I tell her that.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. This will be good. Anyway, if you have
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  Speaker 1: North Shore Animal League having the giveaway of puppies, especially
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  Speaker 1: that they've just rescued all over the country this weekend,
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  Speaker 2: You know, my mother, Francesca, no longer with us, was
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  Speaker 2: terrified of dogs. And I was delivering the New York
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  Speaker 1: So it took me a while. And I saw this
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  Speaker 1: huge dog running around. Somebody had just dumped him. You
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  Speaker 1: could tell that in the streets of Canarsie. He was
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  Speaker 1: part Great Dane, part German Shepherd. I just showed you
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  Speaker 1: a picture of it, Larry, with my grandfather, Fidelio Bianchino,
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  Speaker 1: who loved dogs. And my mom did not want a dog.
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  Speaker 1: So when I brought the dog home, she said that
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  Speaker 1: no dog is going to be in my house. You
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  Speaker 1: and your grandfather are going to have to build him
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  Speaker 1: a dog house out in the yard. And so he
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  Speaker 1: stayed in the doghouse. And obviously, nobody's coming in beyond
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  Speaker 1: that fence. So my uncle comes in, my Uncle Vincenzo,
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  Speaker 1: who's having an argument with my mother over something. I
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  Speaker 1: forget what it was. And he's arguing and arguing in
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  Speaker 1: the house. His voice is getting raised up. I wonder
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  Speaker 1: what's going on. What am I going to do? I'm
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  Speaker 1: just a little kid. And he goes to leave. And
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  Speaker 1: the dog puts his paw right in front of his
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  Speaker 1: leg and puts his mouth right on his ankle. My
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  Speaker 1: cousin Vincenzo was so scared. He's saying to me, get
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  Speaker 1: that dog off of me. Get that dog off of me.
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  Speaker 1: And then he just ran out. Didn't come back to
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  Speaker 1: bother my mom after that. And you know what my
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  Speaker 1: mom said? The dog gets to stay in the house.
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  Speaker 1: The dog gets to stay in the house. Oh, and
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  Speaker 1: as you can see, you know what you should do, Natalie,
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  Speaker 1: at some point this week? Yes, what? Because we want
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  Speaker 1: to promote people going out and adopting unwanted dogs. You
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  Speaker 1: should post a picture that I just showed Larry so
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  Speaker 1: people can see. I was originally a dog guy growing up.
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  Speaker 1: And then, Larry, if you have any pictures of you
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  Speaker 1: and your dog, you should definitely post that. Just as
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  Speaker 1: an encouragement to others, because there are a lot of
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  Speaker 1: unwanted dogs out there who are just looking for a home.
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  Speaker 1: of their own.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'll wait until we get another dog,
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  Speaker 2: which I think now is going to happen soon. You
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  Speaker 2: don't realize how important... I can't believe I didn't think
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  Speaker 2: of that before. I cannot believe I didn't think of that.
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  Speaker 2: Because you told me when they.
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  Speaker 1: When we first consummated this relationship, you know, after Tom
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  Speaker 1: Cuddy did the shit in March, you told me that
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  Speaker 1: your wife Dawn hates the deer coming into your yard.
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  Speaker 2: And we've tried everything.
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  Speaker 1: And eat all the flowers, eat everything. She doesn't even
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  Speaker 1: want to plant anymore.
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  Speaker 2: We've tried coyote urine, which smells horrible, but we had
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  Speaker 2: it all over our yard. First rain, it's gone. We
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  Speaker 2: tried everything. I will promise you, we will have a
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  Speaker 2: dog within two weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Because the dog is going to frolic in the yard,
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  Speaker 1: and the deer are going to stay away.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and even if it's a puppy, it's going to
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  Speaker 2: run after the deer like it wants to play, and
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  Speaker 2: it's still going to scare them off.
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  Speaker 1: You see, I did a good thing. Larry, Dawn, if
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  Speaker 1: you're listening, Natalie, I did a good thing. I was
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  Speaker 1: able to put the key in the door and turn it.
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  Speaker 1: To give rationale to Dawn to get over her mourning
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  Speaker 1: period for your previous beloved dog, Buddy. And this now
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  Speaker 1: has a rational reason why you got to do that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, and she hates the deer. She hates the deer.
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  Speaker 1: Probably treats deer like Agent Orange in hooves. Because people
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  Speaker 1: say when the deer come on like your property, Natalie,
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  Speaker 1: they just eat everything in sight.
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  Speaker 2: We tried everything. My son was out with a BB
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  Speaker 2: gun shooting them. And I said, what if he hit
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  Speaker 2: one in the eye? And that stopped that. Then after that,
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  Speaker 2: he wouldn't do it.
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  Speaker 2: Curtis Lewa and Larry Minty in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: The conversation continues on 710WOR.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Cornell University in Ithaca, New York is in some
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  Speaker 2: trouble here because it seems like it does appear like
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  Speaker 2: they tried to cover up a gang rape at Cornell University.
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  Speaker 2: You've heard the story already, and this is getting out
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  Speaker 2: now because the woman, Jane Doe, is suing Columbia University.
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  Speaker 2: And from the information coming out, I don't believe they
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  Speaker 2: have a leg to stand on. They should settle this
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  Speaker 2: thing quickly because the da is now involved a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people across the country journalists are involved breaking stories
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  Speaker 2: left and right and every single one of them cornell
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  Speaker 2: university comes out looking worse so this happened in 2024
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  Speaker 2: there was a frat party a woman goes to the
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  Speaker 2: frat party and apparently she was open to having sex
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  Speaker 2: but they gave her ketamine. They also gave her marijuana
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of alcohol. And so she had sex
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  Speaker 2: at first with two guys. And then they put out
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  Speaker 2: on Snapchat that other guys should come because guess what?
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  Speaker 2: There's this woman that's having sex with everybody. And so
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  Speaker 2: then there was this gang rape. And this woman has
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  Speaker 2: been very honest about everything. everything. And yet, somehow, all
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  Speaker 2: the things that she was honest about right after this
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  Speaker 2: rape didn't make it to the county prosecutor. It was hidden.
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  Speaker 2: And I have to really give praise to Hassa Saidi,
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  Speaker 2: who is a reporter for CBS New York, who was
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  Speaker 2: able to get a copy that apparently... they claim didn't exist.
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  Speaker 2: Get a copy of when the woman, Jane Doe, spoke
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  Speaker 2: to campus police. This is three weeks later. Because she
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  Speaker 2: didn't come forward right away. And that's not unusual with
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  Speaker 2: rape victims. But she came forward. Now, Cornell University said
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  Speaker 2: from the beginning, she said she wasn't raped. I want
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  Speaker 2: you to hear what Hassa Saidi found out.
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  Speaker 5: Asked whether she was okay with the initial encounter, she says, quote, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: as much as I can be, because again, I was
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  Speaker 5: super drunk when I got there, but I was pretty
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  Speaker 5: okay with all of this. She adds, quote, and then
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  Speaker 5: of course, I was being hit at the same time,
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  Speaker 5: physically hit very, very hard. When describing later events, she says, quote,
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  Speaker 5: I can say with 100% confidence I was raped.
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  Speaker 2: So Saidi then went to the district attorney in Tompkins
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  Speaker 2: County who passed on charges early and said to him,
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  Speaker 2: why did you read this report?
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  Speaker 1: Did you read this?
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  Speaker 5: And she says, quote, I can say with 100 percent
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  Speaker 5: confidence I was raped.
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  Speaker 6: That wasn't information that I had, first of all. Second
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  Speaker 6: of all, that is a legal conclusion. If she had
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  Speaker 6: said those words, we certainly would want to have explored
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  Speaker 6: that more.
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  Speaker 5: Well, according to the transcript, she did say those words.
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  Speaker 6: Well, like I said, that wasn't provided to me.
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  Speaker 2: By Cornell University held that back, gave them lots of
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  Speaker 2: other information, but held back the most important piece of
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  Speaker 2: information I will tell you that she is Cornell University
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  Speaker 2: is in a lot of trouble they're gonna have to
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  Speaker 2: pay this off there are going to be rape charges
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  Speaker 2: there's no question by the way Curtis the disciplinary action
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  Speaker 2: they gave to the seven that they're charging that they're
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  Speaker 2: disciplining two of them were expelled yeah and they were
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  Speaker 2: apparently the first two they called everybody else everybody else
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  Speaker 2: got like detention And a couple of them got writing
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  Speaker 2: assignments for a gang rape.
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  Speaker 1: Creative writing. They had to prove that they were good
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  Speaker 1: at creative writing. How ridiculous. It's a mess. The other
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  Speaker 1: group of journalists I didn't realize were actually digging all along.
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  Speaker 1: As you mentioned, the CBS reporter who just broke this
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  Speaker 1: news that they had the information all along Cornell University,
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  Speaker 1: their public safety division, that she said I had been
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  Speaker 1: raped with a student journalist. Apparently, the local publication, I
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  Speaker 1: got a chance to meet them last year when I
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  Speaker 1: spoke there. A lot of them, newspaper, radio, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they were digging, digging, digging. And, you know, university was
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  Speaker 1: trying to tell them, no, no, no, don't make a
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  Speaker 1: big issue of it. So it's all come to the forefront. Now,
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Hochul's jumped in. That's right. We
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  Speaker 1: want a complete investigation. Tish James, the attorney general, complete investigation.
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  Speaker 1: And then you look to the local DA in that county.
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  Speaker 1: And he goes, well, I only have nine investigators, and
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  Speaker 1: I really didn't know what it was. You would have
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  Speaker 1: thought a normal DA would have been a little more curious,
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  Speaker 1: would have said to one of his investigators, hey, Joe,
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  Speaker 1: why don't you go in there, talk to the people
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: you know there, public safety, Cornell University, the local cops.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: something that doesn't seem right here. Apparently, he chose to
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: do nothing. You know, he said, it wasn't brought to
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: my attention, so I wasn't going to deal with it.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: It was brought to his attention, and he did investigate it,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: and Cornell University lied to him. And Cornell University has
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: been lying all along, and they've been putting out different
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: press releases and trying to slime this woman, and instead
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: of just owning up to what happened on their campus.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: And so this, I would not blame this guy because
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: he went there and he got all the information they
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: gave him and he interviewed people and that was withheld
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: from them. The most damning piece of information was withheld
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: from him. And so Cornell University is embarrassing right now
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: and they need to come out and deal with this
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: because it's going to get worse and it's going to
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: get worse and it's going to get worse. Every single
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: investigative reporter in the country is now going to be
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: focused on Cornell University. Because a story like this doesn't
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: come along all the time. And it's sickening. It's sickening.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: But for investigative reporters, they smell blood now. Because if
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: they covered this up, they covered some other stuff up.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Sure. In 2025, they report having had 12 hearings on
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: this particular issue with faculty and staff, and nobody spoke
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: up from the faculty and staff. Now, you know, generally,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: There are people on the faculty and staff who don't
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: really care about what the administration thinks. If they feel
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: there was an indiscretion or a violation of this woman,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: they would have said something. But they were complicit. They
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: were complicit. It's sort of like the whole campus was
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: in lockdown, except for the student journalists who kept digging, digging, digging.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: And obviously journalists are doing what they do best, which
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: is saying where there's smoke. You know there's fire, as
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: you pointed out. There's probably other situations that have occurred,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: if not most recently in the past, that are somewhat
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: similar to this.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: And I will tell you what normally happens here, because
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I've been on the other side of this as an
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: investigative reporter. The defense now has access to everything. And
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: they better not hide anything from them, because they can
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: be criminally charged if they withhold information. So I'm not
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: going to say that this defense attorney... that's suing Now
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Columbia gave that information to CBS? but I will say
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: in the past when I've done these stories, that's where
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: the information comes from. And everybody knows that. If you
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: want to find out what's really going on, you go
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: to the person that can make the most money off
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: of this. And so I would think That may be
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: the case here, but I'm not going to say that because,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: you know, this guy sues people. I don't want to
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: get sued, so I don't know that at all. I'm
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: just telling you what happens in most of these cases,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: in many of these cases.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: So they call the Cornell 7. We know the ringleader
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: has been identified. Apparently he was working for Wells Fargo,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: the banking firm in Charlotte, North Carolina. He was fired
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: as a result of that. He had another colleague of his,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: you know, his, what do we call it, frat brother,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: who was totally complicit with him in organizing this whole thing.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: And then eventually continuing to put out those Snapchats to
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: their frat brothers like, hey, come get some. Come get some.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Stores open is what they said. Stores open.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: So what about the fact that there are those now
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: who are going after all seven, are posting their photos,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: their background information. Because some are saying they must be
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: held accountable. Others are saying, but they're being harassed because
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: those others haven't been charged with anything. How as a
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: journalist would you handle that? The fact that independent and autonomous,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: call them vigilantes, so to speak, have acquired this information
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: and are just posting it up all over the place
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: on the others who are considered part of the Cornell Seven.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Well, what they're doing is legal. If they want to
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: take legal action against them, if the people want to
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: take legal action against them, they can choose to do that.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I doubt they will. But what they're doing is legal.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: All I would say to people is there is a
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: legal process for that. These people are going to be investigated.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: It's going to a grand jury already, and they're probably
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: going to be charged. Let it play out. They've got
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: a rough enough life right now. But let me talk
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: about it, because I think we talk about... the people
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: that commit the crimes or allegedly commit the crimes more
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: than we talk about the victim. This poor girl was
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: 20 years old. She was 20 years old. Now, she
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: made some stupid decisions in this. There's no question. And
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: she admits to that, by the way. She fully admits
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: to that. But after what happened, her life was ruined.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: She left Cornell. She pulled out of the university and
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: she didn't want to go back to another college right away.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if she is right now. We're going
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: to find more about her from the defense attorney. as
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: they start to release more information. But I will tell
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: you right now, and maybe I should stop calling him
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: a defense attorney because he's actually suing Cornell University, but
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: I will tell you right now that this is going
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: to haunt this poor woman for the rest of her life.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: And she really made some poor choices, but at a
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: certain point, she didn't want this to happen to her anymore.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: And another time we should talk about the state law
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: that allows this to happen.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The New York rape law excludes people who were
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: voluntarily intoxicated. Right. So you would think this is such
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: a me too state, right? Let's face it. New York
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: is a me too state, very progressive, very liberal. There
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: are now more female legislators in Albany than there are
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: male legislators. You would say, How did this exist, this
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: New York rape law that excludes people who were voluntarily intoxicated?
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: They're pushing to change it right now, and you're not
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: going to believe this. And, yes, we should talk about
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: this tomorrow because there's pushback. There's a whole other side
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: that's pushing back against it. So that'll come up tomorrow.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Curtis Lewa and Larry Minty. They're better together. On 710WOR.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Right on time, Rich DeMuro. Rich on Tech has heard
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Sunday nights from 8 to 11 right here on WOR.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: And I noticed that you were missing in action there, Rich.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: You were not part of that massive summit about AI
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: hosted by the president at the White House yesterday. When
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: they walked outside, it looked to me like a hostage photo.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: The president was saying, oh, we all agreed you're going
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: to self-police and we're no longer referring to it as
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: artificial intelligence. But superintelligence, they didn't seem like they were
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: all in agreement to that. Or were they?
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: Well, probably not. But, you know, we've seen this before. Apple,
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: when they came out with AI, they don't call it AI.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: It is Apple intelligence. So there is some this has
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: been done before.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Let's put it that way.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: And so superintelligence. Apple intelligence, artificial intelligence.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: It's all the same.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: It's making our lives easier, but also more stressful because
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: we're all worried about this stuff in the future.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: So did anything really happen at that meeting? I know
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: that they have some agreement in theory. I'm not sure
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: anything signed just yet, but is that going to be
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: enough for what we've been told about the draconian ending
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: that possibly may be ahead for us?
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll see.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: We don't know what the ending of all this is
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: going to be. But yes, the companies did sign a
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: voluntary AI accord. We had representatives from Google, Meta, OpenAI, Anthropic, NVIDIA, XAI,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: which is from Elon Musk. Apple, I don't believe, was
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: there this time around. But we do know Apple has
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: a pretty cozy relationship with the White House. But look,
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: this agreement is all about letting these companies do what
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: they do best. but also saying, look, we understand that
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: there are risks, we understand that there are downsides to this,
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: and we need you to be looking out for those.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: And I think that this is probably an appropriate way
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: to do this right now, because no one really knows.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: All the doomsayers, all the doom and gloom, we don't
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: really know if that's going to happen. We don't know
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: if humanity is going to be wiped off the face
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: of this planet because of AI. What we do know
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: is that this is a race, and there are many,
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: many companies around the world that are all trying to
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: do this. And just because the U.S. slows down does
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: not mean anyone else is going to slow down. In fact,
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: we just saw the financials from Anthropic. I mean, that
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: company is burning through billions, billions of dollars a year.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: And now, to me, it's very clear why these companies,
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: why Anthropic in particular, wanted to slow down because they
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: want to spend less because they're spending so much and
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: their IPO is coming up and they're saying, look, this
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: company is not as, you know, The financials may not
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: be as good in this business as you think right now.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: Same thing happened with Amazon in the early days, and
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: look what happened to them. So we'll see what comes
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: of this. But, yes, the companies are signing a voluntary
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: oversight accord where they're saying, look, we're going to keep
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: track of this, and we're going to figure out ways
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: of making sure this stuff is safe.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Well, the president with the CEOs of these companies said,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: took it upon himself to say, oh, neighborhoods and communities
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: all over America, they want these data filing centers. They
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: really want them. This will be good for them. This
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: will make them prosperous. I don't think the president has
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: been paying attention to what's been going on in the country. Or, Rich,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: are you aware of communities that are clamoring to have
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: data filing artificial intelligence centers in their backyard? I have
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: not heard of many of those, but.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, we also saw the same thing. Remember when
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: Amazon wanted to do their headquarters too somewhere, and they
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: put up this big thing where they said, okay, you
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: communities compete for this. You pitched to us which place
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: we should put this in, and nobody wanted it. Nobody
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: wanted Amazon to be in their backyard because they said, no,
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: it's probably eventually not good for us. You're going to
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: give this company all these tax breaks and all this stuff,
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: and you're going to promise all these jobs, and at
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: the end of the day, it's probably going to be
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: one big factory with a bunch of robots inside. And
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: so I think the same thing with data centers. It's
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: like the promise is there. Oh, we're going to give
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: you jobs. We're going to give you the stimulus to
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: your neighborhood. But at the end of the day, we're
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: just using your water and your electricity. And what do
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: you get out of it? So I'm not seeing the
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: neighborhood's clamor for it. But that doesn't mean we don't
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: need these things. I think we're going to have to
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: take a different approach to how we build these data centers.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: By the way, before I get to the question, I
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: want to comment on the dissertation or statement that you
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: made on AI. I thought it was brilliant. And I
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: agree with you a thousand percent. All right, now a question.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: How about this? This is a little bit scary. Your
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: car may be sharing data with big tech. How is
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: that happening?
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, look, we kind of knew everything that's connected
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: to the Internet is snitching on us. But yes, your car,
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: according to Consumer Reports, they did this study with the
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: university and they looked at 15 major automakers and found that, yes,
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: all of this information that you have in your car,
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: a lot of it is being shared with data providers.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: mining companies, Google, Meta, Amazon, all on the receiving end
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: of this data. And so some of this data includes
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: your location. It includes your car's VIN number. And what
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: these companies do, if you're not familiar with the way
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: these data collection companies work, even if they have one
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: key piece of your information, they don't need everything. They
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: need your VIN and they will find everything else out
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: about you by pulling all of the databases that include
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: your information. They can use your email address, your phone number,
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: whatever you do. Like when you go to a store
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: and you give them your phone number for the loyalty
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: rewards program.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, no big deal.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: It's just my phone number. Well, they take that phone
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: number and they instantly put it into a thousand different
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: databases that give them every piece of information they need
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: to know about you down to what scent candle that
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: you like. And that's what's happening here. Same thing with
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: the cars. Bottom line, guys, you got to go into
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: your app. and try to turn off any sort of
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: opt-out setting that you can that says share my data
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: turn it all off you don't need to help gm
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: or whoever else you know use your data in all
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: these ways.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: That's great advice does flock i hope does flock doesn't
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: know about this because they're going to want to tap
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: in as well Rich DeMuro, Rich on Tech, is heard
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Sunday nights from 8 to 11 p.m.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: On WOR.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: By the way, you can reach out to Rich and
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: see what he has to say all week long at
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Rich on Tech on Instagram. Thanks a lot, Rich. Have
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: a good week.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Thanks, Larry.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: Thanks, Curtis.