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Ice Cube and F. Gary Gray Interview · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: A real key for real celebrity joined the Breakfast Morning.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ M v Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy.
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  Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. We got two special guests,
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  Speaker 1: two legends in the building, f Gary Gray and Ice
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  Speaker 1: Skill Up. What up morning guy? Y'all got another one? Right, yes, sir,
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  Speaker 1: it's graight out of Compton, right out of Compton. I
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  Speaker 1: saw this weekend. I had the pleasure of seeing it
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  Speaker 1: in LA So that's that's a nice place to see it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it was a good experience.
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  Speaker 1: I like, I liked the movie a lot. I got
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  Speaker 1: so many questions, man, like you was under contract with
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  Speaker 1: NWA to hold I mean, you wasn't under contract when
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  Speaker 1: NWA the whole time. No, no contracts that signed the
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  Speaker 1: contract ain't no really really really it's really that wasn't
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  Speaker 1: out of bad business back there it was. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: so you didn't get paid on the road. That's what
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out. What you Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I got paid on the road. Okay, it wasn't a
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  Speaker 1: lot of money, you know what I'm saying. You know,
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  Speaker 1: but we got paid on the road. So let's bring
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  Speaker 1: it back. How did NWA come together for people that
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  Speaker 1: don't know well. You know, Dre ended up moving down
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  Speaker 1: the street from him with his cousin, Sir Jenks, Sir Jinks.
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  Speaker 1: You look on my old records, you know. He helped
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  Speaker 1: me produce a lot of records. So me and him
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  Speaker 1: was real cool. So when Drake went down there and
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  Speaker 1: started living, I started to go down there a lot,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and just kind of spit
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  Speaker 1: my rhymes and Drey started feeling me. We started collaborating together.
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  Speaker 1: He was with a group called the Wrecking Crew. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so we started to I started to help him right
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  Speaker 1: rhymes for the Wrecking Crew, and then we started doing
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  Speaker 1: mixtapes where we just talked about what was going on
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  Speaker 1: in the hood. Now when did his image change? Because
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  Speaker 1: the world Class Wrecking Crew. If you see the pictures
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  Speaker 1: of the other album covers they had on shiny glitter suites.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't seem like YA kept the listing out the
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  Speaker 1: movie too, What lipstick? It was what Lipstick? And they
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  Speaker 1: have listed on one of the covers the world clubs
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  Speaker 1: Wrecking Croup. We didn't show no album come on the movie,
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  Speaker 1: I know, but they had. Yeah, he was DJ and
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  Speaker 1: at the club. Yeah, did you see the movie Man
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  Speaker 1: the world class recorcruiter to Nwa as we know it, well,
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  Speaker 1: the wrecking crew. He was in somebody's crew that was
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  Speaker 1: ran by dude named grand Master Lines. So they had
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  Speaker 1: to do it his way and play it his way.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, we was all right there from the hood.
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  Speaker 1: So your image don't change. You just grow up what
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  Speaker 1: you know. You right there. So I haven't seen the
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  Speaker 1: movie yet, so I can't even say what happens in it.
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  Speaker 1: But a lot of people haven't. So if we asked
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  Speaker 1: questions from people who haven't seen the movie, from my
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  Speaker 1: point of view, I know they had to be a
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  Speaker 1: lot of discrepancies between people's recollections. Like I'm sure what
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  Speaker 1: you remember is different than you know, what other people remember.
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  Speaker 1: So how do you put all of that together? Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you try to make a movie that that
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  Speaker 1: tells the origin and tells the story. We're trying to
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  Speaker 1: cram ten years is into two hours, so you know
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  Speaker 1: you're not gonna get everything in. Sorry you want to lipstick, Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But you can't get everything in,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You just gotta tell the
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  Speaker 1: story and tell what happened in a comprehensive way, and
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  Speaker 1: it's still a movie. You know, it's still have to
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  Speaker 1: adhere to the laws of cinematography and film. So that's
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  Speaker 1: what we're trying to do. We gotta we gotta make
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  Speaker 1: sure that we're telling a story that people can understand, comprehend,
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  Speaker 1: follow the characters, and really get behind the group and
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  Speaker 1: get behind what we're trying to say. You didn't even
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  Speaker 1: know this movie, right, yeah, I did, you know, because
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  Speaker 1: when I when I broke out and left the group,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that was like nineteen eighty nine, So I'm
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  Speaker 1: doing my thing. I don't know what's going on over there.
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  Speaker 1: So until we started to uh like research the movie
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  Speaker 1: and interview everybody and hear everybody's story, then I started learning, like,
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  Speaker 1: oh damn snap, that it was going through that I
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  Speaker 1: was going through this, So you know, I was able
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  Speaker 1: to discover a lot, you know, putting this movie together,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, damn it, it's gonna be good,
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  Speaker 1: right right, right, even with you was in the group, Cia, right,
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  Speaker 1: that's what it's called. Yea, they say they mentioned it
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  Speaker 1: in the movie that you was in the group, So
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  Speaker 1: you probably couldn't get down with NWA, but they never
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  Speaker 1: showed how you broke apart from that group to get
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  Speaker 1: with NWA. Do you really care? I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's like it's about n WA. You know. CIA is
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  Speaker 1: like a startup group, you know what I mean, That's
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  Speaker 1: like your first crew you get with when you first
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  Speaker 1: started rapping. So yeah, you know, it's so much information. Man.
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  Speaker 1: I've been on this film for about four years, and
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  Speaker 1: it's so much drama, so much controversy, so many good
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  Speaker 1: times and high points and low points, that you could
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  Speaker 1: actually make three n WA movies out of the information
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  Speaker 1: that's out there. So you know, we did our best
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  Speaker 1: to put the right information in there to serve the
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  Speaker 1: narrative and to make it entertaining and make it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: edgy like the Stratocompton the album. I agree. How hard
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  Speaker 1: is it for you to do a movie of this
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  Speaker 1: magnitude with new actors? So a lot of these got
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  Speaker 1: that I haven't seen before. Very hard, you know. One
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  Speaker 1: of the hardest things about making a movie was casting it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because everybody's looking at me like you better
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  Speaker 1: not screw this up. You gotta get this right, and
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  Speaker 1: so it's so many ways to get it wrong. You know,
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  Speaker 1: the moment you introduce La Eighties, Jerry curls that whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you walk a fine line between humor and reality.
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  Speaker 1: So I wanted it to make it really authentic and
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  Speaker 1: make it raw. I don't know how you felt about
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  Speaker 1: the movie, but we feel like it's extremely raw and
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna get a piece of not only hip hop history,
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  Speaker 1: but American history, and it's you know, I think we
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  Speaker 1: hit it. We wanted to make sure too, that we
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  Speaker 1: had new faces up there, because you you can see
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  Speaker 1: them as NWA you wasn't. You know, actors sometimes carry
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  Speaker 1: baggage and you look at a movie and the baggage
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  Speaker 1: of that act there, if he didn't messed up this
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  Speaker 1: week or you know what I mean, had the wrong
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  Speaker 1: Instagram or whatever. You know what I mean, that baggage
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  Speaker 1: follow him into the movie and take people out the movie.
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  Speaker 1: So what we wanted to do was have unknowns that
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  Speaker 1: you you know, we've done this a lot with my movies,
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  Speaker 1: to have unknown faces and new faces so you really
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  Speaker 1: see them as the character we're trying to present. Your
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  Speaker 1: son was playing. Yeah, that's a great job, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Right, Yeah, you know how you
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  Speaker 1: do you know what I'm saying. You be on your
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  Speaker 1: kids to to to stand up to uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: show their talent. I knew he could do it, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. I just wanted him to be focused.
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  Speaker 1: Uh take it serious, extremely serious. Uh. I wanted him to,
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  Speaker 1: uh to trust Gary, you know, because Gary told me.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I got him, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: And uh, you know I have trust. I had trusting
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  Speaker 1: my son. I had trust and Gary, I had trust
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  Speaker 1: in the process. And uh, he did it. He did
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  Speaker 1: a great job. You got to back it up just
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  Speaker 1: a little bit because I wanted to spell any any
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  Speaker 1: rumors about people feeling like the son his son was
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  Speaker 1: handed the job. There was no nepotism involved whatsoever. It
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  Speaker 1: took him two years of auditions and acting coaches. He
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  Speaker 1: trained on the East Coast and the West Coast, all
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  Speaker 1: types of callbacks, chemistry testing, things like that. So but
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  Speaker 1: he was good though. He was really he worked the
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  Speaker 1: hardest to get the role. The hard I remember when
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  Speaker 1: a people was up here. I asked you, I said,
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  Speaker 1: is your son's gonna play you in the movie? And
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  Speaker 1: he was like, he has that's right. I'm not just
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  Speaker 1: giving him that because you know, Universal, the Universal brass
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  Speaker 1: had to okay him. So I never knew if they
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  Speaker 1: was gonna be like, yo, we need a we need
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  Speaker 1: a more seasoned acting here. So and and at the
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  Speaker 1: callbacks it was two or three cubes, two or three
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  Speaker 1: dres you know what I mean. We had to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that we wasn't you know, giving him anything. He
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  Speaker 1: had to earn it and be the best man for
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  Speaker 1: the job, and I think he was. You had to
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  Speaker 1: tell him, maybe tell him before, like you know, like, look,
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  Speaker 1: let me tell you back then, your daddy did this
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  Speaker 1: that I ain't tell you about before, anything that you
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  Speaker 1: had to tell him, pull him to the side of like,
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  Speaker 1: let me tell you about this. I might have knocked
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  Speaker 1: off these many chicks like anything heard, I ain't the
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  Speaker 1: one before. He hadn't heard it all. He don't seen
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  Speaker 1: it all, live through it all. You know. He was
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  Speaker 1: born in ninety one, you know what I mean. I
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  Speaker 1: was still in the in the mix, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, back then, So you know he he knows
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  Speaker 1: the stories. Uh. I didn't have to show him or
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't embarrassed to show him nothing, you know, not
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  Speaker 1: my kids not easy son, easy son, tried out for
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  Speaker 1: it as well. He didn't he didn't make the part
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  Speaker 1: as an actor, he wasn't that well as an act,
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  Speaker 1: or that he had no seasoning or he had no training. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's not that. It's one of those things
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  Speaker 1: where again nepotism does not play a role and making
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  Speaker 1: a movie. The bottom line is, once the novelty of
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  Speaker 1: your son, you know, wears off. You know, that's playing
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  Speaker 1: the movie. You have to carry an entire movie and
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  Speaker 1: a little Easy is good. He's from the streets. He's
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  Speaker 1: a real dude. It's just we required someone who had
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  Speaker 1: the strength and the ability to carry entire movie and
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  Speaker 1: chops you know, you know, a little different from character.
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  Speaker 1: With Easy, it's a it's an extremely hard art. That's
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  Speaker 1: because you're going from him selling dope and to all
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  Speaker 1: the way to him dying at age. You got to
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  Speaker 1: have an actor who's uh got the chops to be
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  Speaker 1: able to bring that and not to flobobd miss it
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  Speaker 1: or or or not give you or not give Gary
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  Speaker 1: what he needed to uh to, you know, to bring
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  Speaker 1: up it's a classic leading role man. You have to
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  Speaker 1: have the ability to actually be vulnerable and masculine. You
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  Speaker 1: have to have the street credibility, which you are actually
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  Speaker 1: look easy, has a ton of that. He's man. But
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to vulnerability, it takes a very few
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  Speaker 1: young men, black men from the streets could actually give
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  Speaker 1: you that. We're not used to doing that in real life,
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  Speaker 1: let alone being vulnerable enough in front of a camera,
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  Speaker 1: especially that that's really the whole theater got quiet and
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  Speaker 1: all you heard with somebody said my own one normal,
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow, we just started. It was tough, bro. That's
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  Speaker 1: it's a good movie. But you don't want to take
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  Speaker 1: a girl on the date if you ain't never knocked
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  Speaker 1: off before. That's not true. It's not true. This movie
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  Speaker 1: gonna make you laugh, it's gonna make you cheer, it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna make you cry. Everything that you want in a movie.
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  Speaker 1: That's right now. If y'all agree. You said that you
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  Speaker 1: are encouraged by the progression of law enforcement. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: when I watched the movie, I feel like things were
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  Speaker 1: really bad then, but I feel like they've gotten worse.
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  Speaker 1: What did you, guys? I said, I'm optimistic. I'm cautiously
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  Speaker 1: optimistic because you know, we didn't have cell phones and
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  Speaker 1: the internet and social media back there. They took a
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  Speaker 1: pen and pad and a microphone to shine a light on,
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  Speaker 1: you know, excessive force. And now with all the headlines
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  Speaker 1: with CNN, with with you guys, where everybody kind of
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  Speaker 1: shining in the light and you seeing the videos, I
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  Speaker 1: think the pressure is on the pressures on a leaders,
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  Speaker 1: The pressure is on a leader and law leaders in
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  Speaker 1: law enforcement. And you know, maybe I'm too hopeful, but
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  Speaker 1: I kind of feel like, if you got a son
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  Speaker 1: or daughter and you run the risk of being on
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  Speaker 1: television every night shooting a man in the back, and
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  Speaker 1: your kids got to watch this, maybe when you lean
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  Speaker 1: towards successivefore, you might make a different choice. So, you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe I'm too optimistic, but I kind of feel like
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  Speaker 1: all this pressure, all these headlines, eventually something's gotta give.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna push towards change. And I'm kind of tired
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  Speaker 1: of protesting. I'm tired to burnish stuff down. I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we gotta look at federal law. We gotta
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  Speaker 1: look at these body cams, We're gotta look at the
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  Speaker 1: dash cams. We got to start charging people who tamper
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  Speaker 1: with these videos. And so with the combination of federal
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  Speaker 1: law and the combinations pressure I am optimistic about what
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  Speaker 1: the future looks like. What I like about the movie is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the Police was a very controversial record, but
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  Speaker 1: it showed what led y'all to make that record. It
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  Speaker 1: whatether like y'all was just trying to create a song
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  Speaker 1: for shock value. Y'all actually went through experiences that cause
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  Speaker 1: y'all to make that record. Yeah, you know, with the
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  Speaker 1: whole movie, we wanted to show like why, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know what to wear, but you don't know the why.
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  Speaker 1: So we wanted to show that. You know, we wanted
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  Speaker 1: to give Compton. Uh, it's like the six member n WA.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Compton is a part of the movie. It
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  Speaker 1: is the backdrop. You do feel like, this is the
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  Speaker 1: reason why these youngsters from this area decided to go
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  Speaker 1: at it this hard. And you know, to me, the
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  Speaker 1: movie really displays, you know, what forged in WA and
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  Speaker 1: how NWA changed the community. So it's a movie that
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  Speaker 1: really shows two sides of this coin, not just the community.
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  Speaker 1: The rap game. I mean it was one of the
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  Speaker 1: starts of gangster rap, you know. Yeah, and what you
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  Speaker 1: being from New York, was it difficult to do that
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  Speaker 1: movie because I mean it was I'm not really from
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  Speaker 1: New York though really I was born in Manhattan, but
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  Speaker 1: I was only here for two weeks. Um. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I love New York. But I was raised in South
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  Speaker 1: central LA and went to high school at the end
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  Speaker 1: in Chicago. So I got a little bit of both,
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  Speaker 1: but pretty much in South central LA. You know, in
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  Speaker 1: the movie A Jerry Hella told Easy that you wanted
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  Speaker 1: to be him? Come on for what? Why would I
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  Speaker 1: want to be here writing rhyme? You know, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: so that was never true. You know, I wanted I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to be treated fair like he was being treated fair.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, so so to speak. You know,
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  Speaker 1: so I just wanted, uh, you know, I just wanted
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  Speaker 1: to be you know, treat it fair and get what
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  Speaker 1: I was supposed to get in the least have a
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  Speaker 1: chance to look at my contract before I signed it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that's that's just criminal. Did you reach out
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  Speaker 1: to Jerry Heller when doing this movie to get any
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  Speaker 1: of his accounts? I know he wrote the book Ruthless before,
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  Speaker 1: But did you actually say, I know, you know, whatever situation,
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  Speaker 1: But did you say, hey, we just want to get
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  Speaker 1: your side of things? Ever? No, you know, Gary's the
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  Speaker 1: director of the movie. He did his research. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: know from talk to Jerry Heller. You know. The thing is,
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  Speaker 1: it was important for me to do my homework. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: I you know, read the book thoroughly. I did a
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  Speaker 1: ton of research. And you know, when you have dre
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  Speaker 1: Yella Que and Wren there to give you first hand
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  Speaker 1: accounts of their interactions with all of these guys, it
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  Speaker 1: makes it easier for you to pull it together. Especially
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's first hand accounts. I'm not googling stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not looking on Wiki Wikipedia to get deep hells.
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  Speaker 1: I got the guys who were there. That was good enough.
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  Speaker 1: How hard was it for you to walk away from
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  Speaker 1: that seventy five grand man? I don't want to tell
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  Speaker 1: too much of the movie, like the contract, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And finally they wanted him to sign a contract. But
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  Speaker 1: in order to sign a contract, he was like, you're
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  Speaker 1: getting to seventy five grand if you sign this contract.
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  Speaker 1: Basically away, I was real close to pushing that man
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  Speaker 1: down and grabbing that damn check. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I was thinking all kinds of stuff, so
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  Speaker 1: I needed that money. But you know where I come from.
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  Speaker 1: Minute if you know, you ain't getting what you're supposed
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  Speaker 1: to get, and you still there, and you still in
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  Speaker 1: it to win it, and you still pretending like everything cool.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you just some of your manhood is just
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  Speaker 1: not we're supposed to be. So, you know, I just
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  Speaker 1: had to walk away just for my own dignity and
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  Speaker 1: just because I already knew it wasn't right. You know,
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  Speaker 1: somebody trying to get you to sign a contract without
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  Speaker 1: letting you get any representation or let anybody see it.
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  Speaker 1: It's just, you know, they're trying to beat you, period,
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  Speaker 1: and I couldn't stay. And a lot of people are
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  Speaker 1: doing crazy contracts back then though, So that's a good
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  Speaker 1: common sense because I do feel like so many people
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  Speaker 1: back then signed contracts just because they wanted to get
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  Speaker 1: that chatter. Yeah, I mean they got crazy contracts. Now
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  Speaker 1: you ever heard them? Three sixty man? Please? Now you
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  Speaker 1: mentioned early that you used to write for some of
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  Speaker 1: the members of n WA. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: of course we have to talk about Meek Mills said
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  Speaker 1: recently that Drake doesn't write its own rhymes. Do you
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  Speaker 1: feel that that makes or break you as a rapper
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: or it hurts your street credibility or hurts anything that
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: you're doing because you wrote for a lot of the members.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: If you're making records, it don't matter. Anything that matters
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: is what's coming out to speaking. If you up there
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: at m seeing and you just like a battle artist
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: or you just want to be a true master ceremony,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: you should write your own rhymes. You know what I'm saying.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: If you're making records, records have been made by committee
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: since records have been made, so it don't matter. It
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: just matters what's coming out the speaker. That's all that
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: matters on the record, not who put it, how it's
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: been put together. Who was in the studio, who wrote
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: this line, who thought of this hook, you know what
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: I mean? Who was smoking weed? Who rolled the blunt?
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: All that don't matter. You know what matters is is
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: it dope when I hear it? Because I don't care
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: about all that. All I care about is the product
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: that you're trying to sell me, and is it dope?
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: And that's all that matters. Uh. Now, if you're on
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: the mic you want to be, you know, mister battle artists,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: and you want to battle everybody, then you should write
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: your own rhymes. You should be a true m C
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: and write you on rhymes, because then then you're more interesting.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You can't go to a
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: battle on somebody wrote your rhymes. I mean, That's why
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I wonder what the author of Novasoline thinks that these
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: modern day battles that are going on between like Drake
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: and Meek Mill. I love him. I love him, you
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's what hip hop is all. Yeah,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: you know, I grew up on l going at it,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: you know, so I always love the battles, you know,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: as long as it stay on wax. You know, once
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: it go to the street, it's the street and ain't
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: hip hop no more, you know, So as long as
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: it stay on wax is fun. It's dope. You know.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: People should try to you know, I don't feel like
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: you things back then, like I feel like I feel
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: like now if you like they detail it in the movie,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: by the way, but I'm saying I feel like now,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: anything he said it gets unders scrutiny, like, oh he
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: said that, that's wrong. You shouldn't have said that. I
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: feel like back then it was like no say anything,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: and now orders shouldn't care what other people got to
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: say about what they do, and if they if they
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: didn't care, and if they just really did what they felt,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: then they'll say what they feel and not be worried
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: about what's gonna what's gonna be the twitter out your
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: endorsement situations, lose endorsement situations because of their lyrics. N
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I don't seen people lose careers. You're worried about endorsements,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I've seen people get their careers,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: you know. Uh, basically then two and uh, so you
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: can't worry about nothing. You gotta go for that juggular.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: You said it was issues after Novastling because in the
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: movie they show everybody getting mad and acting like they
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: wanted to do something, but they didn't show nothing actually happened.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Didn't mention that easy? Had you jumped to something like
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: that it was a couple of fist fights. Yeah. Was
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: it in your head from the beginning for Doctor Jay
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: to do the soundtrack for the movie or soundtrack inspired
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: by the movie? Did you say, all right, at some point,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I know he's gonna want to do a soundtrack or
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: was it a surprise when he said I was so
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: inspired I decided to do this for me, it was
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: it was kind of a surprise. You know. We went
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: on a boat trip for like two weeks and I
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: told him what type of movie I wanted to make.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I show, you know, I kind of illustrated the vision,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: and he said, you know what, I'll join. I'll join
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: the crew and you know, help you guys develop it
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: and put my two cents in. And then during the
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: process of development, he just jumped in the studio and
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: the songs just started coming. And he made a ton
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: of songs. And I don't know if I can say
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: it on there, but it's crazy. It's crazy. They might
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: be a part two soundtrack. I don't know if it's
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: a part two, but I know that I'm happy he
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: was inspired by the movie and what he's got coming.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: It is crazy, it's dope. It also shows you coming
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: to New York to record with the bomb Squad. If
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: you know the story, you know the bombs, getting me
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: jackets and stuff like that. Was it the time where
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: you ever felt safer in New York than early? No
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: where you get these crazy I see in the movie
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: got you got into the fight at the escalator. I'm
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: saying he was good in New York. They love we
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: love Cuban. Yeah, you know, but you know, I feel
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: safer at home than anywhere on the planet. I was
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: meaning um Luke Uncle Luke's book and he was talking
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: about how hard it was for him to be embraced
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: in New York, and he said NWA had a similar
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: issue coming to New York and not being embraced. When
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: you guys first, when we first came to New York,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: we got booed. It was a seminar that was out
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: here and they had all the rappers go up to
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: to uh to the Apollo and perform, you know what
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I mean. And we was like fresh new, I think
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: easy had we want easy out like so we only
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: had a few little songs, so we jumped on stage. Man,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: they was man, they saw them Jerry curls over a
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: boo boo boo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would mean you know,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: so so I'm fine about to say, Man Kurts blow
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: rock one. But were mad. We was feeling bad about
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: it was feeling bad. Was like damn man, you know,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: we ain't gonna never crack. You know. It was like
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: this this nut we could not crack, you know. Uh.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Iced Tea was the only one getting a little bit
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: of love. So it was like damn. And then we
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: was in the elevated with a Run. I think Run
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: he looked he saw Easy. He was like, you're that
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: kid to do poison the hood, right. It's like, yeah, man, man,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I like that. So when Run endorsed us like that,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: it's like, man, look it's a matter of time, baby,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: he gonna love us out here. It's a matter of time.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: So you know, that kind of made us feel good.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: But yeah, we got we got booed the first time
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: we came in New York and to perform f gagor
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: was then anything that the stars Cuban Dre wanted to
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: cut out the movie. I wanted to cut out of
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the movie. What do you mean just in general, like
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: any any any part of the story, like, you know what,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: let's just keep that up. No, not necessarily. I mean
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: our biggest problem was, you know, we had too much.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: The original cuts three hours and thirty thirty minutes long,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: and so the biggest challenge besides finding the cast was
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: cutting it down. So that's you know, a two hour
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: movie because they didn't really show like the death row
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Easy Beef too much. You know what, It's we showed
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: no vaceline, We showed some of the death row stuff,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You know, I don't want
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: to tell the whole movie, but I think we put
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: it in its right place. We tried to make sure
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: everything that pertained to in Wa was in the movie,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: you know, because everybody got their side stories. You know,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: we can all do movies. I could still do an
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: ice Cube movie and in Nwa part of being ten minutes,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: So you know what I mean. It's like, we just
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: tried to make sure that we told a comprehensive story
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: that you can follow and understand what happened. You know,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: we know people gonna research us. We know it's gonna
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: be documentaries. It's already documentaries made. There's plenty of articles.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: People that's Lutter's movie are gonna go and find all
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: the nooks and crannies and uh, you know, even Charlemagne
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: is gonna put a movie together with the Nwa stuff
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: that wasn't in the movie. So you know what I'm saying.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: But but but it's enough. You know, you can't show everything,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: but we show what we needed to show to have
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: a great movie, and it's dope. August Fourteenth's right, there's
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: a director's cut. By the way, did you want a
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: ninety minute movie in NWA fast Food? That's the reason.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Get When people watch the movie, they say, you know what,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: we wanted to get more and more and more, and
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: so you know, we have a plan for that, but
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: we want people to enjoy the theatrical release. Now ask
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: you this has inspired you to make want to make
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: your own movie about Ice Cub's life. Not really, you know,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: this was hard enough. It's fun of going back and
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: doing the you know, ride along and just you know,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: it's easier to make up as you go along than
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: dealing with this real life stuff. This real life stuff.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: It's just hard because you can't just cut stuff out.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: You lose something here, you gotta lose something there. It
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: just it has this crazy effect. And you know, anybody
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: who's put together a true story in a movie knows
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: when I'm talking about that. It's just it's just extra
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: hard to get it right now, Fay, how do you
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: avoid things like lawsuits like I saw when they did
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: the TLC movie and then Pebbles just trying to sue
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: because she didn't like the portrayal of herself in that movie.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: How do you avoid something like that. Um, it's too
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: soon to tell, you know, I just wanted to focus
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: on in the movie though, you know, I wasn't concerned
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: with that. I'm sure Universal, you know, kind of did
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: what they had to do to make sure they protected
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: the movie and the company and stuff like that. But
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I wasn't concerned about that. I just wanted to make
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: the movie as raw as the album. And that's what
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: we did. So we'll see. Talk to me in a month.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: And after it was the NBA reunion actually gonna happen,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: what you mean, because like in the end, it was
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: like y'all was trying to get everybody back together. Oh yeah, yeah,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt. We was definitely uh, you know,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I had my head ready for it, you know. So
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: it's like he died right before we had a chance
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: to really go in there. And I mean, you know,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: y'all giving up the movie? Hold up, that's Charlemagne doing
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: all that. I know, but a lot of people have
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: it yet who better about ship with Shular involved? Because
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I knew he was mad at clearly not was he
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: mad because he wanted to put his two cents and
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: what was his movie? I don't know what. He was
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: mad about him. He probably heard this is gonna happen
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: and he wanted to come down there and it didn't
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: go well. It didn't go well at all. It's a movie.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Look crazy in the movie, thank you, nobody looked crazy.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: He probably had no idea though maybe he's just in
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: his head. I don't know. But let me ask you
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: one more question. How close were you with everybody else
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: before making this movie? Did this bring y'all that closer together?
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Or were you always always, always, you know, close contact.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. You know, It's like
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I had been solo for so long doing my thing,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: that was doing anything. You know. We were cool, you know,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: and we all busiest hell, and we all you know,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: family reunion. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. When we
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: see each other's like family reunion, we're talking again, talking
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: and reminiscing about the old times and enjoying this ride.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: None of us can really believe that we was able
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: to get a movie off like this at this quality level,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: you know, at a studio like Universal. So it's a
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: prestigious more for the group. And uh, we know, easy
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: with love this movie and be proud of it. And
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: and um, you know that's what it's all about. What
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: made you do so much reality right back in the day,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: because you know in the movie they show you on
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: the school bus. You know, they show easy like actually
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: in the screen, like what made you What do you
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: mean man, when you black you from the street? What
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: are you talking about? How can you be in the
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: hood and not be from the hood? I don't know
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: what you mean though, can be in the hood? What
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: is put in work? In your aspect? Killing somebody, shooting somebody,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: robbing somebody, that's criminal behavior. I ain't got nothing to
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: do with being hood. Man, I'm so sick of that.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You gotta you gotta do it.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: You gotta do crime to write a rap. No, you know,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: you gotta be a boat poetry to paint a boat. Okay,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: that's right. Did you film any of the behind the
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: scenes discussions of you guys sitting down and like this
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: what was gonna go on in the movie, and like
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: conversations with each other like remember when this happened? Remember
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: when this happened? I did? I shot some of what
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: you're gonna do with it? Oh? Man, I don't know.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know if we could release that, but it's good.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: It's good. I sat down with Dre for about four
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: hours and he gave me all the ins and out
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: to n WA, the death Row stuff, and it was
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: you know, he's a very private guy, and so it's
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: good out of relationship with him because he just opened up.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: And I think that's what makes the movie authentic because
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: you get things in the movie you will not you know,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Google or get from with. Nobody else could have done this. No, No,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: there's probably a couple of people. No, because your relationship
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: with ice Cube Dre, it would have been really difficult
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: for anybody else to get those I mean I was
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: definitely there when when they left NWA. I did a
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: lot of the videos for que when he went solo.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: True to the game. Really though, today was a good day,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: and of course my first movie Friday and he didn't
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Natural One Killers, which mean Dre got back together. Really,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: nobody I probably had, you know, not at this level,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: not with this much love, you know what I'm saying.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: It had been a good job. It was a personal
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: story for me too, because I grew up um a
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: couple of miles away from Cube in La During that time.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: It was dangerous, it was fun, it was all those things.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: So you know, I got a chance to tell a
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: little bit about my life as well, because you know,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: none of us went to college for this stuff, and
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: we all made it out of that environment and built
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: our own careers in movies and technology and all this
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: type of stuff. So it was personal to me because, um,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I either witnessed or experienced firsthand what they were rapping about.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know if I ever get
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: a chance for all of these elements to intersect in
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: a movie creatively for me, So you know, maybe I
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: was the one for the job, but um it was personal,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: definitely personal. Grey are you your name's been thrown around
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: the directed Black Panther movie. I keep hearing rumors, man,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: but you know they haven't reached out yet, so you
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: put that. I went on the blog I started in
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: my own. This was in the first movie marro movie
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I've been kind of involved in. This was, Uh. I
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: just keep hearing rumors, man. You know, I'm really just
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: focused on Stratocompton. I'm not really worried about what's next.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Still lost in the world of NWA. I don't I
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: don't want to give too much of the movie where
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: we did you know you did you actually go in
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: the room with easy No, No, I didn't explain no
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: room to the movie. So that's how I really played up.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: We did the movie, man, we did really happen. Okay,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: what does that do that? Well, guess what it makes
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: the listener to be like, well, I need to go
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: see what they're talking about. What's that wrong about? Right
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: that room? You know that? That's how it's gonna be
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: for the rest of y'all written. People are gonna ask
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: nothing but questions about the past. Now that's cool. That's
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: that means that hotel scene with Policia, I'm sure that
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: is fired. I ain't the one. My wife don't need
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: to ask me about. No records. Ice Cuban f Gary Gray.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: There we go.