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- Lucas: So there's this story I keep coming back to — a B2B software rep who was stuck in a deal that had been dragging for months. Luna: Classic stall. What was the blocker? Lucas: Price, supposedly. The buyer kept saying the budget was too tight, but they wouldn't give a number. So the rep did something most sales training would tell you never to do: he proposed a twenty percent price cut. Luna: Wait — he offered a discount before they even asked? That goes against everything about anchoring high. Lucas: Exactly. But his reasoning was clever. By suggesting the cut himself, he forced the buyer to either accept — which would signal that price really was the issue — or push back and reveal what they actually needed. Luna: And what happened? Lucas: The buyer didn't take the deal. Instead, they admitted that a twenty percent cut wasn't enough — they needed at least thirty percent, but more importantly, they needed the rep to understand the real problem: implementation costs were eating their budget. Luna: So the discount was a Trojan horse. It got the buyer to open up about the actual constraint. Lucas: Right. Once the rep knew the real issue, he restructured the deal — not a discount on software, but a phased rollout that spread the implementation cost over two quarters. The total contract value actually went up. Luna: Interesting. He used a price cut as a diagnostic tool, not a concession. Lucas: And I think that's the key insight here: sometimes asking for less — or appearing to — gets you more information than defending your price ever would. Luna: If these conversations are shifting how you think about your own deals, that's exactly what we hope for. A quick note — listener support is what keeps this show ad-free and independent. If you've gotten value from episodes like this, you can help us keep going at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. No pressure, just an option if the show's been useful to you. Lucas: Yeah, and we really mean that — every bit helps us keep the conversations honest and practical. Alright, back to the story. So the rep's move worked in that case, but it's not a universal play. Let's talk about when this works and when it backfires. Luna: Let me guess: it depends on how much leverage you have? Lucas: Partly. In this case, the rep had a strong relationship with the buyer — they'd been talking for months. He knew the buyer respected his opinion. If it had been a cold deal or a purely transactional relationship, proposing a discount might've just trained the buyer to ask for more. Luna: There's also the risk that the buyer takes the cut and walks away happy — but then you've left money on the table. Lucas: Absolutely. That's why I think the tactic only works when you have a specific hypothesis about the buyer's hidden constraint. The rep in this case suspected it wasn't just price — he'd heard hints about implementation costs in earlier conversations. Luna: So the discount was a hypothesis test. Lucas: Exactly. And that's the frame I'd recommend: before you ever propose a lower price, ask yourself what you're trying to learn. If the answer is 'maybe they'll just buy faster,' that's not a good enough reason. Luna: What about the anchoring effect? Doesn't proposing a low number reset the negotiation floor? Lucas: It can. But here's the twist — the rep didn't anchor low. He anchored high on a different dimension. By offering a twenty percent cut, he implicitly said 'my full price is the real value, I'm just making an exception.' The buyer actually perceived the base value as higher, not lower. Luna: That's counterintuitive. So the discount actually reinforced the value of the full-price offering. Lucas: Right. It's similar to the 'door-in-the-face' technique from social psychology: if you ask for something extreme first, the smaller request seems reasonable. But here, the extreme ask was the discount itself. Luna: I can think of a scenario where this would fail badly: if the buyer is purely price-driven and has no other constraints. Then they just take the cut, and you're stuck. Lucas: That's the danger. You need to be confident that the buyer cares about something beyond the upfront cost — maybe implementation time, maybe a specific feature, maybe the relationship itself. If they're a pure price shopper, don't try this. Luna: So what signals should a rep look for before trying this move? Lucas: First, the buyer has engaged deeply — they've asked detailed questions, involved multiple stakeholders. Second, they've given a vague budget objection without a number. Third, you have a credible alternative to discounting, like a different payment structure or scope adjustment. Luna: Those three together seem like a green light. Lucas: I'd say if you have two out of three, it's worth considering. But only if you're genuinely prepared to walk away if the buyer just takes the cut and you can't make the economics work. Luna: That's a good point — this strategy requires the rep to have a strong alternative, otherwise they're just negotiating against themselves. Lucas: Right. And that's where a lot of reps get into trouble. They offer a discount because they're afraid of losing the deal, not because they have a strategic reason. The difference is night and day. Luna: Let's talk about the actual numbers in the story. The rep offered twenty percent. Is there something magic about that number? Lucas: I don't think so, but it has to be significant enough to be noticed. If he'd offered five percent, the buyer might have just said 'that's not enough' without revealing anything. Twenty percent is large enough to feel real, but not so large that it destroys credibility. Luna: So the threshold is around fifteen to twenty-five percent. Lucas: Roughly. It also depends on the industry. In software, profit margins are high, so a twenty percent cut is painful but survivable. In a low-margin business, even ten percent might be too much. Luna: Good to keep in mind. So the rep's move was essentially a calculated gamble that paid off because he understood the buyer's real situation. Lucas: Exactly. And that's the through line of this whole episode: the most effective negotiation tactics aren't about pressure or tricks. They're about information. The rep asked for less to learn more, and then used that information to create a better deal for both sides. Luna: I think our listeners can take away a concrete question: 'If I offered a significant discount, what would I learn?' If the answer is nothing useful, don't offer it. Lucas: Perfectly put. And if you do try it, make sure you have a plan for what comes next. The rep in our story didn't just cut the price — he used the buyer's reaction to restructure the entire deal. Luna: Alright, let's end with a practical challenge for listeners: the next time a buyer says 'your price is too high,' instead of defending or discounting, try asking 'what if I could lower it by twenty percent — would that change anything?' See what they say. Lucas: I love that. It's a low-risk probe that could unlock the real conversation. Thanks for listening, and we'll be back next time with another deal story.