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Sister Wives Season 21 Episode 3 "Falling Into Old Feels" · Vanity Farah with Chris Farah

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  Speaker 1: Hello, everyone. Welcome back to Vanity Fair. My name is
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  Speaker 1: Chris Farah, honey. And guess what? I'm continuing on the
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  Speaker 1: quest of getting these sister wives talked about because I listen,
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  Speaker 1: I love them. I watch it. I love them. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm so happy that they get to finally say whatever
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  Speaker 1: the fuck they want to say. And it's happened in
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  Speaker 1: such slow doses because at first Christine was like, you
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  Speaker 1: know what? Fuck you. I'm leaving. And then people, Janelle
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  Speaker 1: was like, wait, okay, well, I guess I'll leave. And
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  Speaker 1: then Mary's like, well, I'm staying. Just, oh, maybe, what?
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  Speaker 1: And Janelle's like, you know what? Fuck you, Cody. And
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  Speaker 1: then Mary's like, you know what? I'm leaving. And Mary's like, wait,
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  Speaker 1: you know what? Fuck you, Robin. And then Mary's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what? Fuck you, Cody. And getting all of
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  Speaker 1: that has been great, but Now, Cody isn't even on
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  Speaker 1: the show. So the level in which these women do
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  Speaker 1: not care about this person who they don't see is
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  Speaker 1: like exponentially more. And so they don't care more than it.
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  Speaker 1: Does that make sense the way I said that? No,
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  Speaker 1: they don't care more. No, that doesn't make any sense.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? All that to say, I
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  Speaker 1: think they're gonna, and they are, even more free to
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  Speaker 1: be like, yeah. And they are just being like, I
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  Speaker 1: never said this, but the whole time that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm here for that. I'm here for that kind of,
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  Speaker 1: these lovely women have weathered a storm, a desert storm.
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  Speaker 1: And there's soldiers now that kind of like have the
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  Speaker 1: trauma kind of come up and now they can talk
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  Speaker 1: about it. And they're like, almost like, can you believe it?
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  Speaker 1: leave it. But at the same time, they're quick to
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  Speaker 1: be like, we have great kids. We love our kids, kids, kids, kids. So, uh,
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  Speaker 1: of course, sister wives, season 21, episode three, falling into
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  Speaker 1: old Phil's. Phil's. Listen, I'm trying to get better at
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  Speaker 1: the accent that I can only tell you. I can
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  Speaker 1: only do on words like real. Del. Mel. It's a
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  Speaker 1: good meal. And I don't want to fell as fells.
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  Speaker 1: But we do know that obviously we're coming up on
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  Speaker 1: the fact that all of the ladies got together and
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  Speaker 1: did their picture share. And they had already discussed the
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  Speaker 1: fact that they do not want to cook together. And
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  Speaker 1: so that's what's happening. Now Mary's back and she's in
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  Speaker 1: Parowan and they're going to Bev's Flowers. Honey, Bev's got
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  Speaker 1: a flower shop. You go to Bev's Flowers. She's there
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  Speaker 1: with Amber and Jen. And she fills them in on
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  Speaker 1: the conversation, of course, with Janelle and Christine. And you
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  Speaker 1: know that it did bring up to her old fills.
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  Speaker 1: Mostly she describes it as this. She says in the
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  Speaker 1: beginning of the relationship, she was the first wife, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: and Cody's like best friend and favorite. She was very
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  Speaker 1: loud because she had a lot of power and she
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  Speaker 1: wielded horribly. But she knew and acknowledged that it was
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  Speaker 1: hard for others. I don't know when she did that. Now?
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  Speaker 1: Only now? However, in Vegas, she shrunk, she said. And
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  Speaker 1: she let others dominate the conversation. And that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: what happened when she was with Janelle and Christine. And
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  Speaker 1: I was like, first of all, good conversation. You shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be that goddamn loud. You were that loud because you
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  Speaker 1: were the first wife and you thought that Cody was
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  Speaker 1: your best friend and you thought you were going to,
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  Speaker 1: God bless, in your mind, do all the things you
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  Speaker 1: were supposed to do in a very small-minded view of
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  Speaker 1: fundamentalist Christians, which is pump out a bunch of goddamn kids.
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  Speaker 1: And guess what? You didn't. You had one. Love that person.
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  Speaker 1: And things look different, don't they? Don't they? And you
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  Speaker 1: have to acknowledge that at the same time. So you
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  Speaker 1: lost a lot of that power because what happened was
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  Speaker 1: it's hard to tell... mothers of six running around children,
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  Speaker 1: and then another mother of the same child, like shit,
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  Speaker 1: when they're just like, what? And so Mary started to
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  Speaker 1: feel whatever kind of way Mary felt, because not of
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  Speaker 1: just that, but also because of obviously her relationship with Cody,
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  Speaker 1: because of Robin or whatnot. She doesn't say Robin, but honestly,
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  Speaker 1: whether it was Robin that sort of gave Mary the
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  Speaker 1: impetus to look outside the relationship and, you know, or
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  Speaker 1: at least have, and I get it, the very real
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  Speaker 1: understanding of this fucking asshole gets to just now fuck
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  Speaker 1: a new person named Robin. And so she tries to have,
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  Speaker 1: or starts to have, does, an emotional online affair with
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  Speaker 1: who she thinks is a man, is a woman, catfished,
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  Speaker 1: and that's the catfish Mary, which happens obviously in Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: And then when she... makes the stupid idea of telling Robin,
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  Speaker 1: who is in cahoots with Cody. Obviously, it all comes out.
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  Speaker 1: And Mary is, I mean, public enemy number one. And
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  Speaker 1: Cody never wants to hang out with her, touch her,
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  Speaker 1: be with her again. She feels that coldness. Now she
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  Speaker 1: has Christine or Janelle, who she's isolated from beginning times.
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  Speaker 1: She has only one child. And by that, she has
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  Speaker 1: no numbers. Cody and Robin have each other. It's just,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, she doesn't, that's what happened. And it's like she,
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  Speaker 1: it's like how the luck of the cards played out,
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  Speaker 1: but she also didn't do her due diligence when she
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  Speaker 1: did have power. So you don't quite deserve the power now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy that you're not dominating the conversation, Mary, even
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  Speaker 1: though I do like you and I'm getting to like
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  Speaker 1: you more and more and I'm happy for your life.
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  Speaker 1: But it does feel like, If this is how the
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  Speaker 1: mothers feel and off camera, Mary, we know how some
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  Speaker 1: of the kids feel about you. You really need to
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  Speaker 1: look at yourself and the tone in which you feel
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  Speaker 1: and the anger or rage or how the chip on
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  Speaker 1: your shoulder of why you feel so entitled and angry
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  Speaker 1: and realize that like other people are in this world
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  Speaker 1: too and also had to deal with you and you
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  Speaker 1: were hard. You can do a clip of like Christine
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  Speaker 1: from the last episode being like, Mary was really, really hard.
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  Speaker 1: Really hard. I mean, it's like, I mean, I can't
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  Speaker 1: even do it as well as like, you're just Jesus.
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  Speaker 1: You could almost feel the pain. Okay. So However, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Mary's in Maryland, which is, Mary's friends are very nice.
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  Speaker 1: I like Amber and I like Jen, but all of
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  Speaker 1: her friends sort of give her the vibe and it
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  Speaker 1: feels like she is, and maybe because she's famous and
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  Speaker 1: I get this, like employees of her. You know, Amber
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  Speaker 1: lives with her. And so Mary, I'm sure is like
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  Speaker 1: paying Amber's rent or who doesn't, or, you know, is
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  Speaker 1: her landlord slash her friend slash a very famous, especially
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  Speaker 1: person in life. And also certainly in Parowan, So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all of her friends are like, yeah, Mary, what's going
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  Speaker 1: to happen? Yeah. Oh, well, you were da-da-da. Well, did
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  Speaker 1: you do this? Well, this is because you were the victim, right?
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  Speaker 1: It's hard because I don't really know if any of them,
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  Speaker 1: especially Jen, who's been around, can honestly be like, Mary,
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  Speaker 1: you have to understand that you were really angry a lot.
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  Speaker 1: And when you're a child and you experience that, it's catastrophized.
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  Speaker 1: So if you think that you were just harsh a
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  Speaker 1: couple of times, these kids experienced in a very confusing moment,
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  Speaker 1: a very scary thing with you. That's what it is.
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  Speaker 1: So just like you feel like Cody had to do
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  Speaker 1: an apology tour of all of the wives, marry friend
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  Speaker 1: to friend, you're going to have to do that to
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  Speaker 1: the kids if you want to be comfortable. And I
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  Speaker 1: wonder because The other part of me is that Mary's
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  Speaker 1: relationship to Janelle and Christine, however frosty, lives also within
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  Speaker 1: a world in which, like, you know, Peyton, I think
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that hate Mary. McKelty hates Mary.
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  Speaker 1: And McKelty, like, and Christine are very close. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? So the fact that she never addresses
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  Speaker 1: that makes me feel like she doesn't quite know it.
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  Speaker 1: But I know it. And I'm just on their peripheral.
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  Speaker 1: Just on the streets of Reddit, just reading. So anyway,
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  Speaker 1: just so interesting. She never, okay. She brings up the poly,
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  Speaker 1: the poly, sorry, polyg photo and how she wanted to
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  Speaker 1: create it. And Christine was like, no. And, but she's
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  Speaker 1: also like, you know what? I'm glad she vocalized it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad that Christine vocalized how much she didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to do that photo or how much she doesn't want
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  Speaker 1: to cook with me because it gives me space to
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  Speaker 1: vocalize even more my shit, my opinionated shit about things. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: never got to have an opinion I'm married you know
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  Speaker 1: it's really it's kind of like that Amber's like you
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  Speaker 1: know it's even weird because let's be honest in that
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  Speaker 1: picture it's like you're the tallest then Janelle and then
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  Speaker 1: her so it's like what even up and I don't
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  Speaker 1: understand Chris Christine wanted to be the third wife all
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  Speaker 1: the time she was always like I want to be
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  Speaker 1: the third wife so I don't understand what that crazy
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  Speaker 1: bitch is coming from is it the basement oh it's
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  Speaker 1: is it the basement thing because she lived in the
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  Speaker 1: basement so she thought she was a basement wife is
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  Speaker 1: it that thing maybe I mean, you know, Amber is
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  Speaker 1: definitely not on Christine's side. None of these people are
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  Speaker 1: going to have any, I guess, empathy for anyone that
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  Speaker 1: isn't Mary. And it makes me weirded out because no
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  Speaker 1: one's perfect. And if you've been around, you've seen this family.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny to not have understanding and grace, but like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: is it? Yeah, I can see I'd be triggering for Christine.
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  Speaker 1: Or just something like, oh, yeah, maybe now that I
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  Speaker 1: think about it, or... Interesting how different things trigger different
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  Speaker 1: people because of how you experience that, right? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. There's a way, I guess, of sharing
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  Speaker 1: space and being with the story and everything involved without
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  Speaker 1: licking every part of someone's... Okay. Then Mary's like, you
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  Speaker 1: know what? Christine felt that way. It was because of Cody.
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  Speaker 1: He made wives feel like the low men on the
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  Speaker 1: totem pole. just weird, though. It's weird how much more
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  Speaker 1: awkward I feel with Christine than Janelle, and I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: be like, well... Jen says the convo between them of
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  Speaker 1: healing hasn't happened. Which is true. But it seems like
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  Speaker 1: a lot of convos of healing hasn't happened. There's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of family. That's what happens when you make love
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  Speaker 1: and multiply. Just keep multiplying. There's a lot of kids,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of convos, a lot of love. Anyway, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of healing. So... She starts crying a little bit
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  Speaker 1: and says that when she sees the kids, she doesn't
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  Speaker 1: regret it, which also makes me feel like, all right, well,
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  Speaker 1: some of these kids, babe. I'm not saying all, because
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  Speaker 1: I feel like Mary, I don't want to take away
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  Speaker 1: the kids that like Mary, but Robin's kids love Mary, okay?
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  Speaker 1: Jen's like, well, you know what? Just go and talk
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  Speaker 1: to Christine. I mean, what can you lose? It won't
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  Speaker 1: hurt your feelings. Wait. Felt. It won't hurt your fillings.
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  Speaker 1: I can't say fillings. Fillings. Fillings. Fillings. Fillings. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to work on that. If it doesn't work out, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there could be healing. Mary wants to connect the dots
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  Speaker 1: with Christine because, you know, it just wasn't about Cody.
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  Speaker 1: It was about them. And Mary, guess what? It's also
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  Speaker 1: going to celebrate Mary. More Mary. Guess what? It's her
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  Speaker 1: birthday dinner. And Mary loves birthdays. Oh, honey, she loves birthdays.
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  Speaker 1: And guess what? She was the victim of not being
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  Speaker 1: celebrated in her past. Yes, there were one billion kids.
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  Speaker 1: But fuck them kids. Sometimes it was Mary's day. And
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  Speaker 1: guess what? Mary has grievances. Mary has moans. Mary moans.
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  Speaker 1: Mary moans that Christine wanted to marry Cody so bad.
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  Speaker 1: And one weird part of their church was like, the
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  Speaker 1: church would just be like, you get married and you
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  Speaker 1: get married. And Marian day is Sunday. Showing up to
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  Speaker 1: Marian day. And get married. I mean, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you can be like, oh, just, I'm so sorry.
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  Speaker 1: I have something to do on Sunday. I can't get
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  Speaker 1: married on Sunday. Can I just like schedule it, reschedule
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  Speaker 1: it for like the next Sunday? Just my period. Sorry, God.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to like, fuck my, you know, sorry.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what it could be. It could be anything.
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  Speaker 1: I have a job opportunity. Like it could be anything truly,
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  Speaker 1: but Certainly, Mary feels like, Phils, like there could have
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  Speaker 1: been an accommodation for her birthday that didn't happen. And
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  Speaker 1: Janelle knows that Mary's upset because Janelle has to sit there,
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: you know, on producer confessional day and start to realize
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  Speaker 1: why the producers might be asking certain questions. So, Janelle...
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  Speaker 1: Tell us about how you decided to get married to
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  Speaker 1: Cody on a day that was like important to someone else.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know who, tell us about that more, who
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  Speaker 1: it was. And you know, Janelle's like, I guess I,
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  Speaker 1: the church made us get married. Is that what you're
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  Speaker 1: trying to say? Church made us get married? Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: basically now Mary's getting celebrated and she's like, and I'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you what, the next man I'm with, I don't
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  Speaker 1: care who he is. I don't care if it's that sleepy,
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  Speaker 1: avoidant asshole Ron or whatnot. But the next man better
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  Speaker 1: make me feel like the most special person ever. Like
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  Speaker 1: I'm the most beautiful girl in the world. I fucked
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  Speaker 1: that up. I know that. But you know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: She is, she, listen, that should be her profile song
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  Speaker 1: if she's on Raya. Yeah. Um... like basically she says
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  Speaker 1: connection is always really important to her. And that part,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, Mary, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: start to love you a little bit. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: try to open my heart to Mary because that is
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  Speaker 1: something I always say. And I feel that way. And
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  Speaker 1: it feels that way for her too. So there must
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  Speaker 1: be a part of both of our souls that crave
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  Speaker 1: the same thing from whatever trauma we have, that we
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  Speaker 1: want to not only facilitate connection for others, but to
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  Speaker 1: have a connection, to feel connected to others, to feel
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  Speaker 1: a real genuine connection, a real like bond to feel
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  Speaker 1: like you understand or are seen by someone and that
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  Speaker 1: you understand understand, sorry, understand and see other people and
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  Speaker 1: that like they see that you see them and you
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  Speaker 1: see that you see them and wait, you see that
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  Speaker 1: they see you, you, so you give them the validation
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  Speaker 1: that you feel seen by them is what I really
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  Speaker 1: want to say. All of that's really great and really important.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like I, I think that like part of
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  Speaker 1: like theater or comedy is like sharing whatever, like a
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  Speaker 1: certain truth or human condition or a weird thing. And
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  Speaker 1: then someone being like, me too. Ha ha ha. Yeah. Right.
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  Speaker 1: You know, oh, tell me about it. Well, one time
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  Speaker 1: with my mom, your mom too. You know, I got blessed.
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  Speaker 1: So all of that feels like connection. But I wonder
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  Speaker 1: if there's like an inherent kind of like isolated person
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  Speaker 1: that feels like that. Like what makes someone really want
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  Speaker 1: to value that as like a tenant in their life?
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  Speaker 1: Like what kind of personality? And if you tell me
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  Speaker 1: someone who also, I don't know, guess what, Chris, wants
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  Speaker 1: to be considered very funny. And bitch, what do you do, Chris? Comedy?
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  Speaker 1: Is that what you do? And you have grievances from Mary?
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  Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying? Am I Mary? Okay. So
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  Speaker 1: Mary's friend comes over who's an interior decorator. And again,
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  Speaker 1: she has redone her family's pair of bed and breakfast
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  Speaker 1: to a beautiful level of sophistication. with an honor to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a very traditional kind of Victorian and ask
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  Speaker 1: country ask bed and breakfast. And so, and she loves green, obviously.
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  Speaker 1: So he comes in and he's overwhelmed and she's so
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  Speaker 1: happy to see it. And I guess this is all
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  Speaker 1: very good birthday presents for her. You know, she gets
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  Speaker 1: to really just like live in it. You know, she
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  Speaker 1: got a special birthday. She understands that she's like, it's
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  Speaker 1: one of the best days ever. Um, They are like, oh, great,
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  Speaker 1: so happy to be here. She's like, yeah, I just
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  Speaker 1: want to be around all of my most favorite people,
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  Speaker 1: the most important people in my life, the people that
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  Speaker 1: really are Team Mary. And they're like, oh, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so just... Is Ron going to be here? The person
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  Speaker 1: that you've been filming with? She's like, no. No. Ron
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  Speaker 1: and I are friends, so... No. So then... Her friend
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  Speaker 1: brings up the concept that I brought up in a reel,
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  Speaker 1: which is that Robin obviously had an agenda and that Robin,
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  Speaker 1: for whatever advice that she was trying to give, whether
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  Speaker 1: it was intentional to be like, get away from my
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  Speaker 1: man or to be like, no, stay with the man
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  Speaker 1: that only loves me so that I can have less
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  Speaker 1: work or because I want this polygamous life, even though
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  Speaker 1: I know I'm the most favorite one and he's mean
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  Speaker 1: to everyone else. either one of those things was pushing
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  Speaker 1: an agenda that only served her. And whether she knows
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  Speaker 1: it or not, we don't know. You know, I wish
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  Speaker 1: she would tell us. But I'm glad that, like, Mary
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  Speaker 1: is completely now aware of that. So now let's split
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  Speaker 1: her off, okay? So Christine gets her, like, little chunk.
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  Speaker 1: Christine is, you know, Trillia's 15. She looks super cute.
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  Speaker 1: She has, like, great kind of 60s glasses, you know, like,
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  Speaker 1: feels like very, yeah, like, feminist like 60s feminist you
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: know like uh like mrs magazine kind of glasses makes
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  Speaker 1: me really happy she's a sophomore in high school and
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: has her learner's permit and she has to learn how
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  Speaker 1: to drive and listen christine is like i i'm very
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  Speaker 1: cool everyone loves me obviously i'm christine um all the
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: kids wanted to come to me i'll tell you what
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  Speaker 1: happened cody wasn't available he was working janelle wasn't available
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  Speaker 1: She is a good patient driver, but she like worked
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  Speaker 1: a lot and she's like, whatever. And there were Mary, left,
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  Speaker 1: or me. Sorry, that was Mary. I'll use proper grammar.
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  Speaker 1: Left was Mary and I. All the kids picked me.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Because I'm nice. I'm not a horrible person. I'm not scary.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: No one would pick her. And she, I wonder how
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: much she internalizes that and is just more rageful. Like
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: all of Mary being like, I couldn't take pictures. Like,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: you know, it's like, yeah. There must have been just
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: like a cycle of Mary being angry at people not
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: wanting to hang out with her or like whatnot and
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: not wanting to deal with her and then just made
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: her more and more upset. Until, yeah, she found a catfish.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: God bless. Who was a woman who somehow was friends
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: with Robin? Something like that. That lore, if you want one,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: the Reddit lore of that is bananas. It's almost like
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: the second to when the American Girl doll clothing gate
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Robin happened. Hilarious. I just like, like truly so much.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: She's so cute. She's just, yeah. Enjoying her life living,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: you know, as the youngest Christine daughter. And she has
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: enjoyed David. She's like, David loves to fucking dish it
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: and I can dish it back. And David loves to
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: get it. David loves to get roasted, honey. David loves it.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: We could roast him. He enjoys it. He doesn't mind it.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: He like, chuckles. I'll tell you who mine's like Christine,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: but they like each other. In fact, they love each other.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: In fact, David's one of the best David's best moments,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: probably the whole season. I can put my hand on
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: it now is when he's like isolates to us the
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: times in which the each children, each child told him
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: that they loved him. Aspen McKelvey's like McKelvey did it fast,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: you know? Um, and now truly, and though that makes
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: me happy. So God bless, honestly. But it was like
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: a recently, so yeah, they were recently to say, I
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: love each other. But I don't know about Peyton. I
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: forgot if she had made that clear. Janelle, honey, is
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: living her best life. Let's talk about Vanity Fair, honey.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Let's talk looks. Let's talk fashion. Janelle's like, fuck, I'm
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: going to live. I'm going to hire Claire Roberts. And
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: of course, the last episode, she was doing like a
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: dating strategist. I mean, she's just like making her own
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: academy of like self, hair, like coming up and it's like,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: she's doing a glow up. And here's the thing. I
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: love this for her. I think it's so important. I
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: think like, and this is a very, all the things,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: you know, can seem vain, but in every aspect, it's
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: nice to check in whatever you're doing, whatever your routine
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: is with a professional or with a coach or with
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: someone who does it, or, you know, at least a
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: friend that you think does it well, if you can,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: but like, and you can't That's why you should pay
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: people to do, you know, I think you should pay
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: people and get different people's opinions so that you can
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: remain exposed and aware and, you know, like sharp, right?
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Like whatever, whatever work you do, you should be knowing
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: what new technology is or what new techniques are or,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: you know, freshen your skills, you know, like you should,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: or new ideas, new mindsets, new ways in, you know,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: like what worked for this person. Like, it's just, that's
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: like what, I mean, that's what keeps us kind of like,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I think fresh. And I think, you know, new hairstyles,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: new makeup. new clothes, like new thoughts in your mind,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: the ways that you frame dating and the ways that
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: you frame your own thinking. That's like therapy or like
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: cognitive behavioral therapy, like just examining yourself is, and then like,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: you know, seeing if you can do adjustments. It's like
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: the gift you give yourself. So I'm happy for Janelle.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I think it's really inspiring. And I've never gone to
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: a color stylist before. Sorry, a color analyst before. And
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: she's a stylist slash color analyst, but I've seen this before.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: And Claire Roberts, I think in my humble opinion, I'm
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: no professional. To me, it's a winter. And I think
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I'm an autumn. I think I'm like deep autumn. Either
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: true autumn or deep autumn. Janelle says she has mom style,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: and that was whatever was clean and fit. And the
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: way that the color works is that you color... analysis,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: and you can see this online, is that you do
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: sit in like a beautifully lit space, natural lighting, with
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: draped fabrics of different hues, and you put it on
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: yourself so that you can just isolate the change between
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: your skin, hair, eyes. Skin, hair, eyes. Skin, hair, eyes. It's,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, exactly to, well, I guess not exactly, but
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: when you are having a picture and you put different
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: filters on it, it makes things look different. It's the, like,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: it's interesting how that works, but it's so true. Right.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: And there are so many different colors and there's so
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: many different variations or so many different tonalities, differences, muted tones,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: bright tones. There's all of it from warm to cold,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: you know? And so it's a, crazy thing that the
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: way that light works in our eyeballs adjusts and bounces
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: off of things so that it is more attractive to
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: look at certain images where colors work in a harmony.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: And if you can know that scientifically and use that
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: to your advantage, of course, you can be like, oh,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I look better for other people. Yeah, sure. But you
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: can also look better for yourself. when you look in
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the mirror. And if you look in the mirror and
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: like what you see, it's a really good feeling. It
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be the entire feeling. And you can really frame
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: about what is a good image to see. But you know,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: a healthy image, one that radiates vitality, Hygiene is what
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: we're going for. And I guess in this situation, it
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: does kind of radiate a glow because your skin looks better,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: your hair looks better, all of that. It's literally an illusion.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: That can work. But at the same time, the other
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: thing about color analysis is if you are someone that
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: gets overwhelmed when you're shopping, like if you're like, what
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: the fuck am I going to buy? I got to
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: buy a dress. I got to buy a dress. I
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: need to get, oh my God, I need new shoes.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: All right, whatever it is. That is a lot. And
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: the more that you can sort of isolate certain routines
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: and aspects or a sort of capsule collection, you know,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: it makes your life so much easier. And so colors
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: can really do that for you. If you know, you know,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: certain hues work and not those. And then if you're
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: looking at a silk shirt and you're like, I need
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: a silk shirt, there's six colors. You don't have to
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: try on all six. You're like, oh, good. The mustard.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: That's me. mosque great uh steel gray kick it to
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: the side not needed great for claire roberts um so
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: then they do a body analysis uh oh sorry let
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: me tell you this claire roberts gives her light summer
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: it's cool like true summer with the brightness and lightliness
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: of true spring great um body analysis is next she's
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: like i don't do fruit you're no apple honey And,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: you know, Janelle's like, yeah, I'm no apple. I'm a
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: woman who moved across the country, started a flower farm,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: is making decisions all by myself. So tell me what
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I am. Now, you can't always make all the decisions
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: by yourself. So all you can do is give yourself
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: the best prep possible, which is educated, you know, people
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: in your corner and reading and evidence finding. She's like,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: you're a muse, Janelle. I'm like, oh, okay. And Janelle's like, great,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: because shopping plus size has been a nightmare. And I,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: from one curvy girl to another, I've felt that. And,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: you know, I understand that it is a nightmare. I
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: really are like, well, I know that if I ever travel,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I have to have all the clothes with me. I
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: won't be buying anything on vacation. Janelle's like, it's so weird.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I was like in that religion. I didn't realize that
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: it was so conservative and modest until like later. I
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: was just so limited. Cody said no earrings. He said
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: no earrings, which is weird because Cody's so vain. So
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: it's like, why was he so earring phobic? But she's
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: happy she saw Claire. She said she gave her clarity
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: and she got dialed in. Honey, then it's off to
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: like bring the woman home with the recipe. Zoom off. Cookout. 2026.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: They got a pro for this. Pro Zoom. People do Zoom. No.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: So Janelle, they start talking more about how difficult it
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: was for all of them to share this kitchen. Janelle
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: was like, it was just so difficult because we all
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: have differences of how things should be stored and done
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: and cleaned and done and talked about and prioritized and
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: discussed and yelled at. And then they talk different recipes.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: And Christine has this banana story where she made this
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: thing called Solomon Grundy, which when I looked it up,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: because I didn't understand if it was some Mormon thing
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: or whatnot, it's like a DC character, like a comic
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: book something. But she says that Solomon Grundy dish is
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: really just goulash. Okay. I don't know why. Okay. Okay.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: But that what happened was when Robin... Had Solomon with Cody.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: She told Cody like, I don't like it when she
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: makes Solomon Groody and calls it Solomon Groody because we
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: have a son named Solomon Groody who I like, you know,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: obviously I'd had her Solomon Groody before I had Solomon.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: So I knew that already. But now that Solomon's here,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: she should change for this because it makes me uncomfortable.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: And every time I'm uncomfortable, everyone else should be uncomfortable.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Solomon's uncomfortable because he's honestly like, are they going to
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: eat me? And I don't even know how to explain
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: to him that they're not. So that's on you to
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: tell your stupid, dumb ass third wife that you don't
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: really like what I want. Right? So he does So
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: now she can't call it that. And now that's why
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: she's like in her victorious triumphant moment, like a Phoenix
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: coming back with her Solomon Grundy for this Zoom. Sorry
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: to laugh. It's just, I don't ever, I just, I don't,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: I don't like a spot show and I don't know
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: if I'm, what is Foulash? I'm going to look it up.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: at a different time so okay that's what that okay
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: that's that and then janelle's like well i'm gonna make
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: chocolate pie because one time we had to make a
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: bunch of chocolate pies for a baking set we kept
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: fucking it up and it was just christine and janelle
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: and mary's like i wasn't there and they were like
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: yeah i know thank god we wouldn't let you and
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: mary's like i don't know where i was they were
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: like we made you go somewhere else we locked you
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: out of the house that day we sent you on
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: an errand so you wouldn't be in the kitchen we
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: hate you in the kitchen didn't you hear that we
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: had to get things done We don't want to like
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: yelling at you with a corner to do things. And also,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: by the way, how do you fuck up a chocolate
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: pie that much? By the way, when she makes the
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: chocolate pie and it's presented, it really just, and I
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: mean this, I mean it looks just like she made
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: chocolate pudding and she got a pre-made pie crust and
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: then put the chocolate pudding in the pie crust. Made
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: it look like a pie. Maybe it, I don't know
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: if she put it in the refrigerator for a little bit.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Maybe not. I don't, I, it was okay. I don't know. Okay.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: God bless. At the same time, I would have eaten it. Okay.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: So then they're like, okay, Mary, Mary, what are you
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: going to do? And because Mary, by the way, is
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: very quick to be like, are you making a chocolate pie?
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I hate pies. God, I hate pies. Like that's why
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: you weren't in the room. And also that's why you
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: don't want to be in the kitchen with you right now.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: You are so negative. First of all, yeah, I don't know.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: What did a pie ever do to Mary? Mary's like,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I don't want one in the face. It's like, okay. Okay.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: So she's like, I'm going to make candy canes. And
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: I'm like, make candy canes? Bitch, okay. I'm excited to
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: watch how someone makes a candy cane. I would not
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: know how to make a candy cane. And guess what?
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: It's just a pastry in the shape of a candy cane.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: that she calls candy canes. Like, yeah, I just, those
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: are pastries. I got so excited to know how to
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: make candy canes, and now I won't know. But whatever,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: she makes that. Christine makes meatballs. She reveals, like, the
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: meatballs and the pudding pie, and then, you know, the
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: candy canes. Mary said she grieved the relationship with Christine
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: because she said that they also had some great times.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: She wishes that it could work out. And Christine, I
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: don't know exactly how Christine feels. Christine is not mean
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: towards Mary, but she's definitely not as decisive about wanting
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: a clean break and never wanting to deal with her again.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: And maybe that's because she's gotten to a place of
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: healing and feels better about herself and got married and
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: is in love and happy and has had that space
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: in between. And maybe also because maybe she recognizes that
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Mary has also gone to therapy and has done some
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: stuff where maybe feels like Mary is a safer person
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: to be around. I would still assume that conversations have
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: to be had between Mary and the various children that
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: feel like Mary was too harsh or mean or hard. Okay.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: All right, my loves, that's the end of the episode.
• 33:41
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• 33:44
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• 33:49
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• 33:55
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• 34:39
  Speaker 1: guys so much. Let's breathe and let you go, honey.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Hand to heart. I'm going to take my Janelle energy.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: I'm going to give grace to Mary. I'm going to
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: take my Janelle energy. I like to take charge, bring
• 34:52
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• 34:56
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• 35:08
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