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The Rita Panahi Show | 30 September · The Rita Panahi Show

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  Speaker 1: Starting right now, The Rita Panahy Show.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to The Rita Panahy Show. Coming
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  Speaker 2: up tonight, more dire inflation data as Treasurer Jim Chalmers
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  Speaker 2: refuses to accept responsibility for the nation's economic woes. Daniel
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  Speaker 2: Wild will cover today's top headlines. Revelations a former Hamas
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  Speaker 2: bodyguard secured citizenship in Britain before plotting a terrorist attack.
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  Speaker 2: Ralph Schollhammer will have more on that. Josh Hammer will
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  Speaker 2: have the latest from the US, including the Soros family's
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  Speaker 2: ties with Socialist Democrat Abdul El-Sayed. And Saturday Night Live
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  Speaker 2: pokes fun at activist, singer, rapper Macklemore. Michael Loftus will
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  Speaker 2: have all your entertainment news. And Lefties Losing It features
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  Speaker 2: Islamist Hamas lovers marching.
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  Speaker 3: Proudly in Germany.
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  Speaker 2: But first, the Reserve Bank has contradicted Anthony Albanese and
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  Speaker 2: Jim Chalmers' repeated claims that the Iran war is the
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  Speaker 2: main source of the nation's economic woes. The RBA lifted
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  Speaker 2: the key borrowing rate by 25 basis points yesterday, lifting
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  Speaker 2: rates to a 15-year high. The central bank's governor, Michelle Bullock,
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  Speaker 2: confirmed that homegrown pressures were the driving factor behind inflation.
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  Speaker 2: She also noted productivity is an ongoing issue.
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  Speaker 4: Inflation is too high and has been driven by domestic
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  Speaker 4: capacity pressures. Unit labour costs, yes, they are rising more
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  Speaker 4: quickly than is consistent with inflation. But that's not because
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  Speaker 4: wages are rising quickly, it's because productivity is doing nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me now is Deputy Executive Director at the Institute
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  Speaker 2: of Public Affairs, Daniel Wild. Dan, Australia has one of
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  Speaker 2: the highest interest rates among advanced economies. In fact, only
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  Speaker 2: Iceland is higher. What is going to be the impact
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  Speaker 2: of this latest rate increase?
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  Speaker 5: Well, we're facing a perfect economic storm. As the RBA
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  Speaker 5: Governor outlined, productivity is doing nothing. We've also got living
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  Speaker 5: standards that are stagnant. We've got basically no economic growth
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  Speaker 5: when it comes to a per capita assessment of it,
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  Speaker 5: which is what matters to people's back pockets. We've also
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  Speaker 5: got rising inflation. So this is a real problem. We
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  Speaker 5: have a very weak supply side of the economy where
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  Speaker 5: we're less able to generate wealth. At the same time,
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  Speaker 5: we have more demand coming into the economy through massive
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  Speaker 5: government spending, as well as mass migration, which is contributing
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  Speaker 5: to big demand. So we're having a slowing economy, but
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  Speaker 5: rising prices. So this is stagflation. This is what happened
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  Speaker 5: in the 1970s. So the RBA governor has basically indicated
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  Speaker 5: we'll get at least a couple of more rate rises
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  Speaker 5: coming up, probably more than that over the cycle. So
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  Speaker 5: we're going to be in for a lot of pain
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  Speaker 5: over the coming 18 to 24 months.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the pain seems to be disproportionately impacting a small group,
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  Speaker 2: say around approximately 35% of Australians have a mortgage. And
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  Speaker 2: why do we just use this blunt instrument to punish
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  Speaker 2: that group? It really is a disincentive. for people to
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  Speaker 2: enter the housing market. We've already had four increases and
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  Speaker 2: already talk of more to come.
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  Speaker 6: Well, that's very true.
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  Speaker 3: This year.
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  Speaker 6: That's right. That's very true.
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  Speaker 5: Well, from the RBA's perspective, it's the only tool that
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  Speaker 5: they have as an institution, so they have to use
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  Speaker 5: the cash rate to get.
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  Speaker 6: The inflation between 2% and 3%. That's what they have
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  Speaker 6: to do.
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  Speaker 5: This is why the key issue here is with the government.
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  Speaker 5: The government is spending too much money. they're doing absolutely
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  Speaker 5: nothing to increase economic growth. I mean, I could tell
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  Speaker 5: you one single policy that this government has to actually
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  Speaker 5: increase the size of the economic pie.
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  Speaker 6: I could tell you 100.
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  Speaker 5: Policies they have to redistribute the pie to all their
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  Speaker 5: sexual interests and their favoured interests, but they're not growing
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  Speaker 5: the economy. So this might sound basic, but the government
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  Speaker 5: does not have the basics right. If you don't get
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  Speaker 5: the basics right, everyone will suffer.
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  Speaker 2: Well, their only idea of growing the economy is to
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  Speaker 2: import more people.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: As you said, on a per capita basis, that doesn't
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  Speaker 2: help us at all. Now, Jim Chalmers made 10, 10
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  Speaker 2: separate references to the Iranian war in his response to
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  Speaker 2: the rate rise.
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  Speaker 6: This is incredible.
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  Speaker 7: Made worse by the war in the Middle East. The
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  Speaker 7: war in the Middle East turbocharged by a war on
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  Speaker 7: the other side of the world. Australians are paying a
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  Speaker 7: very hefty price for that war in the Middle East.
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  Speaker 7: Re-escalation of the war in the Middle East. A big
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  Speaker 7: driver of that is the war in the Middle East.
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  Speaker 7: Prolonged war in the Middle East. A main driver of
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  Speaker 7: inflation in our economy and indeed around the world is
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  Speaker 7: the war in the Middle East, re-escalation of the war
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  Speaker 7: in the Middle East, war in the Middle East, re-escalation
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  Speaker 7: of the war.
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  Speaker 3: You can smell the desperation, really.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he would have Australians believe we are more
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  Speaker 2: impacted by this war than just anywhere else in the world.
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  Speaker 6: Well, that's right.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, this is a man under the pump. He's
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  Speaker 5: really under the pump at the moment. And, look, he's
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  Speaker 5: right to say the war makes it worse.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, that is true.
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  Speaker 5: But the war is not the cause of our problems.
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  Speaker 5: The problems that we have, insofar as government policy is concerned,
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  Speaker 5: is as we've outlined, as the RBA Governor has outlined,
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  Speaker 5: as many other economists have outlined, spending growing faster than
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  Speaker 5: the economy is growing. If government spending is going faster
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  Speaker 5: than the economy, then prices are going to rise. So
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  Speaker 5: the government either has to reduce spending growth, increase economic growth,
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  Speaker 5: or a combination of the two, and they are doing neither.
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  Speaker 2: Dan Moore worrying economic data with inflation at a three-month
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  Speaker 2: high on 4%. But the Prime Minister was in a
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  Speaker 2: positive mood. He was here in Victoria with the Premier,
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  Speaker 2: Ben Carroll, and he seems to think Victoria is ahead
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  Speaker 2: of the kerb when it comes to the housing sector.
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  Speaker 8: If you want to invest in investment property, you're not
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  Speaker 8: only investing in your future wealth and an asset for yourself,
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  Speaker 8: and good on you for doing that, You're investing in
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  Speaker 8: an asset and future wealth for the nation because you're
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  Speaker 8: helping to boost supply. And I've got to say the
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  Speaker 8: Victorian government here have been ahead of the curve in
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  Speaker 8: what they've been able to achieve.
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  Speaker 2: The Victorian government ahead of the curve?
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  Speaker 3: The man is.
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  Speaker 2: either delusional in denial or he is misleading Australians deliberately,
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  Speaker 2: he's gaslighting Australians deliberately. The housing crisis is arguably far
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  Speaker 2: worse in Victoria than anywhere else.
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  Speaker 6: Well, that's right.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think Albanese knows what he's talking about. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: he knows all about his own property portfolio, of course,
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  Speaker 5: but knows nothing about what's happening in the lives of Australians.
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  Speaker 5: So I think you're quite right. We have the National
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  Speaker 5: Housing Accord, which has been a total disaster. They haven't
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  Speaker 5: met one single monthly target. This has been going for
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  Speaker 5: more than two years. So not one target has been
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  Speaker 5: met in two years and Albanese is once again trying
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  Speaker 5: to gaslight the country and saying that everything is going fine.
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  Speaker 5: Everything is not going fine. The houses are not getting built.
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  Speaker 5: People are not getting into them. And as you know,
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  Speaker 5: the prices, even though prices are declining, the home ownership
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  Speaker 5: is not going up. There's a big problem here.
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  Speaker 2: No, and first home buyers are reluctant to enter the
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  Speaker 2: market for good reason because the housing sector is in crisis.
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  Speaker 2: You can hardly blame them for not taking on a
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  Speaker 2: massive mortgage and entering the property market right now.
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  Speaker 3: And he mentioned Victoria.
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  Speaker 2: A Reserve Bank of Australia data shows Victoria had the
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  Speaker 2: largest share of borrowers suffering from high mortgage burden at 9.7%.
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  Speaker 2: That means spending more than 30% of their pre-tax income
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  Speaker 2: on mortgage repayments. And that was before the latest rate hike.
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  Speaker 2: Tasmania followed with 8.9% and New South Wales and the
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  Speaker 2: ACT were on 8%. Dan, one Victorian financial counselling service
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  Speaker 2: has been forced to turn away new clients because it
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  Speaker 2: can't keep up with demand.
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  Speaker 3: That is so sad.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it's sad and it says it all, doesn't it,
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  Speaker 5: that so many people are now in financial... desperation as
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  Speaker 5: you say you've got mortgages mortgage rates are going to
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  Speaker 5: keep going up but bills are going to keep going
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  Speaker 5: up there's no sign that energy bills are going to
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  Speaker 5: come down there's no sign that the price of groceries
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  Speaker 5: are going to come down anytime soon whatsoever so pretty
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  Speaker 5: much every step along the way in terms of the
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  Speaker 5: things that people have to buy you have to buy
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  Speaker 5: food you have to pay for rent or a mortgage
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  Speaker 5: you have to pay for your for your bills prices
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  Speaker 5: for those things are actually going even faster than the
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  Speaker 5: headline four percent so these are things you can't get
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  Speaker 5: out of you can get out of your luxuries and
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  Speaker 5: your things but you can't get out of your basic
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  Speaker 5: necessities And the.
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister's notion there that people investing in new property
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  Speaker 2: are nation building, is that going to encourage anyone to
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  Speaker 2: make an enormous financial decision, as in I'm doing something
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  Speaker 2: for the country, not just for my own economic future?
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  Speaker 2: It seems so naive if that's what he actually thinks.
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  Speaker 5: Well, not everyone can get a nice property near a
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  Speaker 5: golf course and then have that paid for by the
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  Speaker 5: government to be maintained, can they?
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  Speaker 6: Like he can. So he'd know all about that, wouldn't he?
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  Speaker 6: Lucky coincidence.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure he had nothing to do. I'm sure he
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  Speaker 5: knew nothing about it. But no, look, you're right. At
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  Speaker 5: the end of the day, if the numbers don't make
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  Speaker 5: sense for people who want to invest, then they're not
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  Speaker 5: going to.
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  Speaker 6: Invest in it. I mean, this is just very straightforward,
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  Speaker 6: I would have thought.
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  Speaker 3: Now, the Greens have had a big day.
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  Speaker 2: They've elected New South Wales Senator David Shoebridge as their
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  Speaker 2: new leader.
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  Speaker 3: Following the sudden resignation of Larissa Waters. Shoebridge beat out.
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  Speaker 2: Senator Maureen Faruqi and Sarah Hansen-Young for the job. The
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  Speaker 2: final results were Shoebridge with seven votes, Faruqi with four.
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  Speaker 2: Hansen-Young was eliminated on the primary vote.
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  Speaker 3: That is just... Terribly sad. She's been there the longest,
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  Speaker 3: I think, Dan.
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  Speaker 2: Victorian Senator Steph Hodgins-May won the deputy leadership.
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  Speaker 3: What is this going to mean for the direction of
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  Speaker 3: the Greens?
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  Speaker 5: Well, they've got a middle-aged white bloke who's just beat
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  Speaker 5: out a woman of colour.
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  Speaker 6: So, I mean... this is sort of a bit of
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  Speaker 6: a toxic for them, isn't it? I don't know how
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  Speaker 6: they're going to.
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  Speaker 3: I feel a little bit triggered myself. I need to
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  Speaker 3: take a minute. Exactly. And you've got two women there.
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  Speaker 2: Who arguably have... Well, not arguably, who definitely have higher profiles,
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  Speaker 2: have more impact in the media. Sarah Hansen-Young has... been
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  Speaker 2: their longest. Why aren't they leading the Greens? Have the
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  Speaker 2: Greens got a woman problem?
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  Speaker 6: Well, that'd be a good question to put to the Greens,
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  Speaker 6: I think.
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  Speaker 5: But I do think that the Greens are becoming an
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  Speaker 5: irrelevant force in Australian politics. Their high point was a
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  Speaker 5: few years ago, and they did have pretty effective political
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  Speaker 5: leadership for some time and agree with what they were saying,
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  Speaker 5: but they were effective at driving a lot of the
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  Speaker 5: national debate. they are not doing that. One Nation is
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  Speaker 5: now driving the debate. It is interesting actually. So you
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  Speaker 5: had the Greens that were sort of driving Labor and
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  Speaker 5: now One Nation is driving the national debate. I don't
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  Speaker 5: think the national debate has been driven by Labor or
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  Speaker 5: the Coalition for some time now.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Greens have been very successful in pulling Labor more to
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  Speaker 2: the left. And One Nation is now arguably doing that
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  Speaker 2: with a coalition. But what the Greens do have with
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  Speaker 2: their voters is preference discipline. Their preferences go to Labor.
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  Speaker 2: It gets Labor elected. We're probably not going to see
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  Speaker 2: that with One Nation. We certainly haven't had that experience.
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  Speaker 2: Will we see the sort of coalition and partnership on
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  Speaker 2: the right that Labor and the Greens have, where this
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  Speaker 2: unofficial partnership serves Labor brilliantly?
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  Speaker 5: You won't see it in the short term. I don't
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  Speaker 5: think you'll see that at the next federal election. You
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  Speaker 5: will probably see higher preference discipline from One Nation to
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  Speaker 5: the Liberals because they a lot of One Nation voters
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  Speaker 5: are defected Liberals, which is a bit different to what
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  Speaker 5: it was pre-Bondi.
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  Speaker 6: So I think it will be a bit higher.
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  Speaker 5: But I think after the next federal election you will
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  Speaker 5: start to see more of a formalisation of a coalition
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  Speaker 5: on the centre-right because it will be clear that there's
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  Speaker 5: no other way of getting rid of Labor unless they
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  Speaker 5: do that.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: If they don't get their act together, we are going
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  Speaker 2: to have leftist governments with very low primary votes but
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  Speaker 2: still winning quite comfortably.
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  Speaker 3: Dan Wild, thank you so much for your time.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Swedish Social Democratic Party leader Magdalena Andersson has abandoned
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  Speaker 2: efforts to form a leftist four-party government. The breakdown leaves
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  Speaker 2: Sweden without a new government more than two weeks after
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  Speaker 2: the election.
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  Speaker 3: It also opens the.
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  Speaker 2: Door for the outgoing conservative bloc to remain in power
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  Speaker 2: if they can form.
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  Speaker 3: A working coalition.
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  Speaker 2: Let's bring in broadcaster, columnist and international relations expert, Ralf Schollhammer. Ralf,
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  Speaker 2: what is the latest in Sweden and why can't the
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  Speaker 2: Social Democratic Party form a coalition to govern?
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  Speaker 9: Well, I have to admit I wouldn't be surprised if
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  Speaker 9: we see the Swedish people go to the polls again. very,
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  Speaker 9: very soon. I mean, it's just a bare majority that
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  Speaker 9: the left block has, right? It's not a single left-wing party.
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  Speaker 9: It's 176 seats in the Riksdag, the Swedish parliament for
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  Speaker 9: the left, and 173 seats for the right-wing bloc. And
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  Speaker 9: what's quite interesting is that divisions between the left and
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  Speaker 9: the right are quite significant. Plus, there are 11 seats
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  Speaker 9: potentially being contested because there is suspicion of election fraud.
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  Speaker 9: So this, I have to admit, is not an A
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  Speaker 9: remarkable development in a country that was always considered to
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  Speaker 9: be a beacon of democratic stability, what's going on in Sweden.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they say demography is destiny and we have seen
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  Speaker 2: some dramatic demographic changes in Sweden.
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  Speaker 3: How much of an impact has that been on the election?
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  Speaker 9: Well, supposedly in those 11 parliamentary seats that are contested,
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  Speaker 9: some of those claims of fraud are connected to to
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  Speaker 9: migrants from Somalia. Now, I don't want to cast suspicion
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  Speaker 9: on anyone. This is what the Swedish media is reporting.
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  Speaker 9: But as you can imagine, if you have a three-seat majority,
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  Speaker 9: everything matters. And if you have 11 seats that are
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  Speaker 9: being contested, I think the picture becomes quite clear. Now,
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  Speaker 9: we do know from exit polls that a significant number
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  Speaker 9: of first-generation Swedes, whatever that is defined as, vote for
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  Speaker 9: left-wing parties. I mean, we see this all over the West.
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  Speaker 9: And of course, it does make a lot of sense
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  Speaker 9: because many of them depend on the welfare state. So
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  Speaker 9: by default, it's quite rational. They will vote for the
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  Speaker 9: very parties that support those welfare payments. But on the
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  Speaker 9: other hand, of course, it means that you get a
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  Speaker 9: voting block that you constantly have to pay off.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 6: And.
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  Speaker 2: What's happened in Sweden? It's a country that's near and
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  Speaker 2: dear to my heart. A lot of my family, once
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  Speaker 2: the Islamic revolution happened in Iran, moved to Sweden, but
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  Speaker 2: they integrated, they worked, they contributed and they absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Love the country.
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  Speaker 2: And I can tell you it breaks their hearts to
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  Speaker 2: see what's been happening there in recent years. Now, Germany's
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  Speaker 2: left-wing party, in fact, they call themselves the left party,
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  Speaker 2: has won in Berlin's city-state elections for the first time.
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  Speaker 2: The hard left party's lead candidate, Elif Erlap, promised to
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  Speaker 2: follow through with a pledge to nationalise private housing associations
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  Speaker 2: that account for a large share of the city's housing stock. Ralph,
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  Speaker 2: that could mean more than $ 200, 000 housing units transferred to
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  Speaker 2: state ownership.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's even worse than this, right?
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  Speaker 9: Because they say that the compensation of the original owners
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  Speaker 9: will at best be 40% of market price. So this
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  Speaker 9: is a full-blown nationalization, I would say, the way they
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  Speaker 9: did it in slightly maybe less worse, but similar to
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  Speaker 9: how they did it in Eastern Germany and the Soviet Union, right?
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  Speaker 9: You get like a meager recompensation for what you're losing,
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  Speaker 9: but overall the state takes it over. Now, legally, they
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  Speaker 9: cannot do it. But I prepared a list just to
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  Speaker 9: give your viewers an impression of what this party that
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  Speaker 9: came in strongest with over 25% in Berlin, what's in
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  Speaker 9: their program. So these are just the main bullet points.
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  Speaker 9: They want to reduce the police and replace police work
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  Speaker 9: with social work. They want that fare dodging in public
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  Speaker 9: transportation is no longer punishable. Basically, everybody can use public
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  Speaker 9: transportation for free. No more homework in schools because children
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  Speaker 9: from poorer households would be discriminated against. Naturalization for everyone
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  Speaker 9: after five years, no matter how integrated that person is,
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  Speaker 9: no matter whether an Islamist or a criminal. Then squatters
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  Speaker 9: in houses, if they've been squatted for a year, then
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  Speaker 9: it belongs to the squatters. So basically we have not
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  Speaker 9: just a nationalization of housing, you can just occupy a
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  Speaker 9: house and after a year it will go over in
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  Speaker 9: your possession. Prisoners should get the minimum wage, no deportations.
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  Speaker 9: According to the program, every deportation is one deportation too many.
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  Speaker 9: The abolition of ID checks because that would exclude people
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  Speaker 9: without secure documents. They call it an ID check as
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  Speaker 9: an act of discrimination. They want state-run rooms for the
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  Speaker 9: smoking of crack. So not just marijuana, but crack. They
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  Speaker 9: want to ban the use of concrete. So building new houses, well,
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  Speaker 9: you can nationalize them, but you cannot build them. And
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  Speaker 9: the last one, They want a special admissions program to
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  Speaker 9: bring in more migrants from Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan, Gaza,
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  Speaker 9: and Lebanon. And you might wonder why those countries. Because
• 17:31
  Speaker 9: the left party is heavily connected to the Arab criminal
• 17:36
  Speaker 9: clans that operate in Berlin. If any right-wing party would
• 17:40
  Speaker 9: have a similar program, it would be all over the news.
• 17:43
  Speaker 9: But since it's the left party, They dream too much.
• 17:46
  Speaker 9: They are just too passionate. You cannot take them seriously.
• 17:49
  Speaker 9: But as you see in Sweden, you should take them seriously.
• 17:51
  Speaker 9: This is their program and we should talk about it.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: It's incredible that they could be taking over a city
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: as significant, as large as Berlin with those sets of policies.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, that is just self-destruction at speed.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Goodness me.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Now, before you go, I want to ask you about
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: a revelation in The Times. They've reported that a former
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: bodyguard to the leader of Hamas managed a secure asylum
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: and citizenship in Britain before plotting a terrorist attack against
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Jews in Europe. The man, who has not been named,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: served in the personal security team of former Hamas leader
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Ismail Haniyeh, at the time when he was awarded refugee status,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: it was public knowledge that he had worked for Haniyeh
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: and he was the son of another senior Hamas official
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: and had been previously arrested in Egypt. So they knew
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: his form, Ralph, and yet he was granted sanctuary. What
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: does that say about the UK's asylum process?
• 18:56
  Speaker 9: Well, it just says that in the UK, you have
• 18:58
  Speaker 9: a couple of those policies that I just mentioned that
• 19:00
  Speaker 9: the left party in Berlin wants to implement, the UK
• 19:03
  Speaker 9: has implemented. I mean, if you look at this story,
• 19:05
  Speaker 9: if the reporting is correct, this guy was granted asylum
• 19:09
  Speaker 9: and citizenship because he claimed he was prosecuted by Egypt
• 19:13
  Speaker 9: or persecuted, to be more accurate. And the reason why
• 19:16
  Speaker 9: the Egyptian authorities persecuted him, because as you correctly mentioned,
• 19:20
  Speaker 9: is because he was a member of Hamas. So you
• 19:22
  Speaker 9: now can go to the UK... and say, I'm being
• 19:25
  Speaker 9: persecuted because I'm a member of a terrorist organization. And
• 19:28
  Speaker 9: then Great Britain will grant you not just asylum, but
• 19:31
  Speaker 9: even citizenship. And he was planning, just to be very clear,
• 19:34
  Speaker 9: he was planning terrorist attacks, not just in the UK.
• 19:37
  Speaker 9: He was also planning them against Jewish centers in Germany
• 19:41
  Speaker 9: and Austria. So this was a veritable terrorist mastermind. I mean,
• 19:45
  Speaker 9: we were lucky that he got caught, but the simple
• 19:47
  Speaker 9: fact that a person like this can get asylum and
• 19:51
  Speaker 9: citizenship is complete madness.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: It absolutely is.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: But this is the UK and it's not just been
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: the Labor government there.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: The Tories in.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: The past betrayed their voters as well. And it's probably
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: why reform is leading in the polls and doing so well.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Ralph Schoelhammer, thank you so much for your time tonight.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Coming up, lefties losing it, plus the latest from the US,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: including the Soros family's ties with socialist Democrat Abdul El-Sayed.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Josh Hammer has the details.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: You're watching the Rita Panaghi Show and it's time for
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Lefties Losing It. Let's check in on our friends in Europe.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Let's see how they are dealing with the Islamist threat.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Let's start in Germany in Dusseldorf where this woman in
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: a hijab and a full face of makeup, naturally, is
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: proudly wearing her master's green headband. You know, the terrorist
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: group that slaughters children and civilians?
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: LAUGHTER Charming stuff.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: To the UK now, where some Iranians caught a woman
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: trying to tag down their signs, their anti-Iranian regime signs.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: And then a rather comical clash happened with this woman.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: who claims she is Iranian or Farsi as she calls it.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: And trust me, no Iranian, no Persian calls themselves Farsi.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Why are you touching our stuff?
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: You're not Iranian.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: You're not Iranian.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: You're Pakistani.
• 21:38
  Speaker 10: You're not Iranian.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Look at your face. You're not Iranian. Why are you
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: touching our stuff? I am recording you.
• 21:45
  Speaker 10: You're Pakistani.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: You're not Iranian. Idiot. Don't touch our stuff next time.
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: Go back.
• 21:53
  Speaker 10: The Persian component of that.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Was even funnier.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: And that has to be one of my favourite lines
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: of the year from that gentleman, you mother effing lefties
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: destroying every country.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: And they are.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Let's stick with why those men were so passionate, why
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: it's so disgusting to have people who live in the
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: West and the freedom of the West but carry water for.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: The Islamist Iranian regime.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: This is a regime that has just imposed a sentence
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: of 74 lashes on to be inflicted on a prominent
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: singer who performed without the hijab, without the mandatory hijab.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: This is the performance by Parastu Ahmadi on her YouTube
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: channel that is going to see her receive a barbaric punishment.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Now to America and one of my.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Favourite leftist clowns, the certifiably silly Scott Galloway who's made
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: an art form of saying outrageously stupid stuff. Here he
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: claims that Kamala Harris is a terrible presidential candidate.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Yes, thank you, Captain Obvious. But then he claims.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: She would make a fantastic Supreme Court justice.
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: What?
• 23:38
  Speaker 11: There's all this scuttlebutton reporting about Democratic elders trying to
• 23:42
  Speaker 11: talk Vice President Harris out of running for president. Vice
• 23:47
  Speaker 11: President Harris... Outstanding senator. I think she'd been outstanding justice.
• 23:51
  Speaker 11: I thought she was a lousy presidential candidate.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Now, this is a man so demented with TDS that
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: he lost around 40% of his net worth by selling
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: his shares after Trump won the presidency the first time.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: He was convinced the market would crash its sword.
• 24:10
  Speaker 11: Probably my biggest investment mistake was the emotional reaction I
• 24:15
  Speaker 11: had to the 2016 election of Donald Trump. When he
• 24:18
  Speaker 11: was elected in 2016, I sold all my stocks. That
• 24:22
  Speaker 11: was stupid. The market ripped for the next year. There
• 24:25
  Speaker 11: was so much insecurity about him actually winning that the
• 24:28
  Speaker 11: fear had been priced in, stocks ripped up. But what
• 24:30
  Speaker 11: we had, for me, was an emotional decision and I
• 24:33
  Speaker 11: sold everything. I had, at that point, a lot of
• 24:36
  Speaker 11: capital gains. So immediately I lost probably 20, I was
• 24:39
  Speaker 11: living in New York at the time, so I lost
• 24:41
  Speaker 11: probably a third of the gains. And then six months later,
• 24:45
  Speaker 11: I ended up buying back in at a market that
• 24:47
  Speaker 11: was 10 or 20% more expensive. So you could argue,
• 24:49
  Speaker 11: at least notionally, that decision cost me 40% of my
• 24:53
  Speaker 11: liquid net worth and stopped.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, we hear a lot about how much the left
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: hate billionaires, though they have more billionaires in their ranks
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: than Republicans. And among the most active and destructive is
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: the Soros family, led by George Soros, the character the
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: New York Post called the most dangerous man in America.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Soros has spent tens of millions on installing hard-left, soft-on-crime
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: DAs and other officials in big cities across America. And
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: it seems the Soros family is getting behind socialist Abdul Al-Sayed.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Here is Jeffrey Soros revealing a long association with Abdul.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: It's been a privilege.
• 25:37
  Speaker 11: Speaking of privilege, I've had the pleasure of knowing Abdul
• 25:40
  Speaker 11: since 2012.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I got to interview him as a finalist.
• 25:46
  Speaker 12: For my parents' fellowship, the Paul and Daisy Soros Fellowship.
• 25:51
  Speaker 13: For New Americans.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Joining me now is Article 3 Project Senior Counsel and
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Shillman Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Centre, Josh Hammer. Josh,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: that is a fascinating revelation there, the Soros family's links
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: and support of Al-Sayed, the Michigan Democratic Senate candidate.
• 26:13
  Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, Rita, I can't help but think back
• 26:16
  Speaker 14: to a few years ago when my good friend Will
• 26:18
  Speaker 14: Scharf and I, Will is now the White House counselor
• 26:20
  Speaker 14: for President Trump. Will and I founded a group called
• 26:22
  Speaker 14: Jews Against Soros because we were sick to high heaven
• 26:26
  Speaker 14: of the notion that criticizing George Soros is somehow anti-Semitic,
• 26:30
  Speaker 14: which it's not. In fact, if anything, I would argue
• 26:32
  Speaker 14: it's actually a mitzvah. It's a good thing to criticize
• 26:35
  Speaker 14: George Soros because he is a cancer person. He is
• 26:37
  Speaker 14: a tumor on Western civilization. He's a cancer on the
• 26:39
  Speaker 14: United States. He's a cancer on.
• 26:41
  Speaker 10: All that is good and just in the world.
• 26:44
  Speaker 14: And I know that criticizing the Soros family is not
• 26:46
  Speaker 14: India's feminism because here we have them literally just fawning over,
• 26:50
  Speaker 14: oh yeah, you guessed it, Abdu'l-Sayed, who was running for U.S.
• 26:54
  Speaker 14: Senate as essentially as a Muslim Brotherhood front person in
• 26:58
  Speaker 14: the United States, a guy whose ties to organizations like
• 27:01
  Speaker 14: care of the Council on American Islamic Relations, organizations like ISNA,
• 27:06
  Speaker 14: the Islam Society of North America, both of which were
• 27:08
  Speaker 14: founded to be unindicted co-conspirators in the 2008 Holy Land
• 27:13
  Speaker 14: Foundation bust, the then-largest terror financing case in DOJ history
• 27:18
  Speaker 14: here in the U.S. This is the guy who George
• 27:20
  Speaker 14: Soros and his family are apparently just fawning over. So,
• 27:23
  Speaker 14: I mean— It's out of, frankly, the Alice in Wonderland
• 27:26
  Speaker 14: through the looking glass scenario.
• 27:27
  Speaker 10: It's absolutely nuts.
• 27:30
  Speaker 14: But also, Rita, as I like to say, the fault
• 27:33
  Speaker 14: line in current American politics, which is the fault line
• 27:35
  Speaker 14: for so much of Western politics today, is essentially the
• 27:38
  Speaker 14: following binary question. Are you on team civilization or are
• 27:41
  Speaker 14: you on team barbarism? It actually really ultimately is that symbol.
• 27:44
  Speaker 14: Do you believe in the wellspring of all that is
• 27:48
  Speaker 14: good and true about the J.O. Christian heritage and biblical values?
• 27:52
  Speaker 14: Do you agree with free markets? Do you agree with
• 27:54
  Speaker 14: the rule of law? Do you agree with the nation state?
• 27:56
  Speaker 14: Do you agree to treat others as you want to
• 27:58
  Speaker 14: be treated? All of these basic building blocks of society,
• 28:02
  Speaker 14: do you agree with that? Or do you believe in
• 28:04
  Speaker 14: barbarism and savagery and third worldism and sub-Saharan Africa and
• 28:08
  Speaker 14: tribal warfare and things like Hamas and Al Qaeda and
• 28:12
  Speaker 14: the Chinese Communist Party and their brand of nationalism. That
• 28:15
  Speaker 14: is the divide. I know which side of that divide
• 28:17
  Speaker 14: I'm on. I know which side you're on. I know
• 28:19
  Speaker 14: which side the Soros family is on. It's not our side,
• 28:21
  Speaker 14: that's for sure.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Now to ex-special counsel Jack Smith, who weaponize the Department
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: of Justice and the federal government to go after conservatives,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: to go after his ideological opponents. Here he is at
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: a hearing earlier today being asked by Republican Ted Cruz
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: if he has any regrets.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: And then, Senator Cruz, let him have it.
• 28:44
  Speaker 11: I regret that the people I worked with have been
• 28:48
  Speaker 11: unfairly fired and vilified.
• 28:50
  Speaker 10: Of course, of course.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: You can't bring yourself.
• 28:52
  Speaker 12: Well, let me say congratulations. Because you have succeeded where
• 28:57
  Speaker 12: Richard Nixon failed, which is weaponizing the Department of Justice
• 29:02
  Speaker 12: and the federal government to go after your political opponents.
• 29:05
  Speaker 10: Congratulations.
• 29:07
  Speaker 12: You are stepping into the shoes of John Mitchell. And
• 29:10
  Speaker 12: yet your abuse is far greater than John Mitchell. And
• 29:14
  Speaker 12: I understand for the rest of your life, you're going
• 29:16
  Speaker 12: to be hailed as a hero in the resistance movement.
• 29:20
  Speaker 12: I assume you have a pink hat somewhere at home.
• 29:25
  Speaker 12: And people will be proud of you for resisting, but
• 29:27
  Speaker 12: I'll tell you what you have done. You have brought
• 29:31
  Speaker 12: the Department of Justice into disrepute. Because instead of being apolitical,
• 29:38
  Speaker 12: instead of enforcing the law, you willingly were conscripted as
• 29:42
  Speaker 12: a foot soldier for the DNC.
• 29:45
  Speaker 10: And you know what you also did?
• 29:47
  Speaker 12: You reelected President Donald Trump because the American people were
• 29:51
  Speaker 12: disgusted at your willingness to abuse power in partisan ends.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Josh, Senator Cruz said Jack Smith's conduct represents the most
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: egregious abuse of power in the history of the Department
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: of Justice.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: That's saying a lot. What are the.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Chances that he will face the consequences of those actions?
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Does he deserve to be behind bars?
• 30:21
  Speaker 10: So, first of all, this is Ted Cruz at his finest.
• 30:23
  Speaker 14: Ted Cruz, before he was in politics, was one of
• 30:26
  Speaker 14: the greatest politicians constitutional lawyers in the United States. This
• 30:30
  Speaker 14: is a man who, frankly, if he wants to, Ted Cruz,
• 30:33
  Speaker 14: if he ever gets sick of being in the Senate,
• 30:34
  Speaker 14: he would make a fantastic Supreme Court justice or himself
• 30:37
  Speaker 14: an attorney general. So this is really Ted Cruz at
• 30:40
  Speaker 14: his finest. On Jack Smith, I agree with the assessment.
• 30:42
  Speaker 14: I agree that Jack Smith is the lowest of the low,
• 30:45
  Speaker 14: the absolute worst misconduct, certainly in my lifetime, in the
• 30:49
  Speaker 14: history of the DOJ. And I think you would it
• 30:52
  Speaker 14: would be really hard to find a worse example than
• 30:55
  Speaker 14: what he pulled in American history. By the way, I
• 30:57
  Speaker 14: think it's worth noting, before we talk about the specifics,
• 30:59
  Speaker 14: it's worth noting that Jack Smith was not acting alone.
• 31:03
  Speaker 14: He was subservient to Merrick Garland. They said that he
• 31:05
  Speaker 14: was a special counsel, that he was independent.
• 31:07
  Speaker 10: Nonsense.
• 31:08
  Speaker 14: There's actually a late 1980s Supreme Court case called Morrison v.
• 31:12
  Speaker 10: Olson.
• 31:12
  Speaker 14: Which essentially in the long run came to the conclusion
• 31:15
  Speaker 14: that a special counsel being independent doesn't work constitutionally.
• 31:20
  Speaker 10: They are all part of a hierarchy.
• 31:21
  Speaker 14: So this guy was working for Merrick Garland, who was
• 31:24
  Speaker 14: in turn working for Joe Biden. Let's not forget that
• 31:26
  Speaker 14: because they're not off the hook either. On Jack Smith himself,
• 31:29
  Speaker 14: who was in many ways the aggressor, the enforcer of
• 31:32
  Speaker 14: the mafia, the Cosa Nostra-esque edifice, That was the Biden-era
• 31:37
  Speaker 14: Democrat Lawfare Complex. Will Jack Smith actually go to prison? Well,
• 31:41
  Speaker 14: I think that he absolutely should be prosecuted. My colleagues
• 31:44
  Speaker 14: at the Article 3 Project, Mike Davis, myself, we've been
• 31:46
  Speaker 14: arguing for years, frankly, that he should be tried under
• 31:48
  Speaker 14: 18 U.S. Code Section 241, which is a criminal statute
• 31:51
  Speaker 14: that criminalizes a conspiracy to deprive your fellow Americans of
• 31:55
  Speaker 14: constitutional rights. It was a major post-Civil War reconstruction-era statute
• 32:00
  Speaker 14: codified as part of the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871.
• 32:02
  Speaker 14: And if you look at the White House visitor logs
• 32:05
  Speaker 14: during the Biden administration, what you see, Rita, is you
• 32:07
  Speaker 14: see some fascinating data points. You see that, for instance,
• 32:10
  Speaker 14: Nathan Wade, there's a name from the past, Nathan Wade
• 32:13
  Speaker 14: was the discredited extramarital affair lover of Fonny Willis, the
• 32:17
  Speaker 14: Fulton County, Georgia prosecutor. Nathan Wade was paying visits to
• 32:20
  Speaker 14: the White House. Was he getting an Oval Office tour?
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: No.
• 32:24
  Speaker 10: He was visiting Jack Smith.
• 32:26
  Speaker 14: He was visiting Joe Biden, visiting Merrick Garland, Alvin Bragg
• 32:29
  Speaker 14: in New York City, that ridiculous, stupid, stormy Daniels, Michael Cohen, hush,
• 32:33
  Speaker 14: punny prosecution.
• 32:35
  Speaker 10: All these people were colluding.
• 32:36
  Speaker 14: They were colluding out in the open to deprive Donald
• 32:39
  Speaker 14: Trump of his constitutional rights. The good news is that
• 32:42
  Speaker 14: Todd Blanch, who's the current Attorney General, was Trump's literal
• 32:45
  Speaker 14: lead defense counsel at the height of the lawfare. He
• 32:47
  Speaker 14: knows where the bodies are buried in the suspect. If
• 32:49
  Speaker 14: anyone can get justice, it is him. The bad news
• 32:52
  Speaker 14: is that it's not up to one man. It's a
• 32:53
  Speaker 14: very complicated system. You have grand jurors, juries, and a
• 32:57
  Speaker 14: lot of factors. So the long answer, Rita, is I
• 33:00
  Speaker 14: just don't know.
• 33:01
  Speaker 10: I don't know.
• 33:01
  Speaker 14: What I do know is that I feel confident that
• 33:03
  Speaker 14: if Todd Blanch can't get justice for Jack Smith, then
• 33:05
  Speaker 14: no one can.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Does he have the appetite for it, though?
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Because we are going to the midterms and then after that,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: it's the final run of the Trump presidency. Are they
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: going to be focused on this area? Because I know
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: during the election campaign, it was an enormous focus, the
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: way these bodies were weaponised to go after conservatives, to
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: go after Donald Trump himself. And They promised a reckoning.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: And in many ways, we haven't had that reckoning yet, Josh.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: No, we haven't.
• 33:40
  Speaker 14: Look, the administration, to their credit, has its times tried.
• 33:42
  Speaker 14: They have gone after James Comey. They've gone after Tish James.
• 33:46
  Speaker 10: They've gone after.
• 33:47
  Speaker 14: Certain individuals, many of these have been thrown out erroneously,
• 33:50
  Speaker 14: for the most part, by activists, lower court judges, part
• 33:52
  Speaker 14: of the left-wing anti-Trump judicial insurrection. So it's not necessarily
• 33:57
  Speaker 14: for lack of trying. Now, listen, I'm not going to
• 33:59
  Speaker 14: promise that big moves will happen prior to the midterms.
• 34:03
  Speaker 14: I mean, the midterms at this point are just around
• 34:05
  Speaker 14: the corner, essentially just over a month away. In the
• 34:08
  Speaker 14: final two years of the Trump presidency, Rita— I would
• 34:12
  Speaker 14: be remiss, I would be remiss if Attorney General Todd
• 34:15
  Speaker 14: Blanche and the DOJ do not make some concerned moves
• 34:18
  Speaker 14: to try to get justice for the unprecedented lawfare that happens.
• 34:22
  Speaker 14: Because this is going to be a big part of
• 34:24
  Speaker 14: the legacy of not just the Biden administration, but when
• 34:27
  Speaker 14: the history books are written of Donald Trump's time in
• 34:29
  Speaker 14: office and his interregnum period between presidencies when he was
• 34:32
  Speaker 14: out of office.
• 34:34
  Speaker 10: Ultimately, Rita, you need justice.
• 34:35
  Speaker 14: You need justice for a very simple reason, because if
• 34:37
  Speaker 14: you don't get justice, the same darn thing could just
• 34:42
  Speaker 14: happen again the next time Democrats are in charge, whether
• 34:45
  Speaker 14: it's God help us, Gavin Newsom, AOC, or some other
• 34:49
  Speaker 14: leftist freak.
• 34:50
  Speaker 10: So you need justice now.
• 34:51
  Speaker 14: I think Trump understands that, and I'm pretty confident also
• 34:53
  Speaker 14: that Todd Blanchard understands that.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Now, earlier today, President Trump said tech executives had agreed
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: to establish standards for AI and he reiterated his support
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: for the rapid expansion of data centres. And he also,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: of course, in quintessential Trump fashion, said he wants AI
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: to be called SI, for super intelligence. But it wasn't
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: long before Elon Musk messed it up. Well, I think
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: it is worth highlighting the positive benefits of AI, or SI,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: pardon me.
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: Thank you.
• 35:30
  Speaker 9: Superintelligence.
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: I think by far the most likely outcome is an
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: age of abundance.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: The President, Josh, has resisted calls to further regulate the sector.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: We've heard so many doomsday scenarios about AI or SI.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Do we need further government regulation?
• 35:51
  Speaker 10: So the devil is always in the details.
• 35:53
  Speaker 14: Look, I have a very middle-of-the-road, nuanced, non-ideological view, frankly,
• 35:59
  Speaker 14: on AI. My basic view on this is that technology
• 36:01
  Speaker 14: in the long run typically redounds to the benefit of mankind.
• 36:04
  Speaker 14: That doesn't mean that you don't properly regulate and channel
• 36:07
  Speaker 14: technology as it develops to make sure that it conduces
• 36:10
  Speaker 14: to human flourishing and that doesn't actually act against our interests.
• 36:14
  Speaker 14: For instance— These social media companies, we can now say
• 36:16
  Speaker 14: with beyond a shadow of a doubt, utterly failed in
• 36:19
  Speaker 14: the responsibility to not engage in ideological censorship. and the
• 36:24
  Speaker 14: boosting and proliferation of certain viewpoints. We saw this most
• 36:27
  Speaker 14: notably in the 2020 election, the Hunter Biden laptop, certainly
• 36:30
  Speaker 14: during COVID-19 with the vax and the masking and the
• 36:34
  Speaker 14: coordination between the Biden White House. It was all terrible.
• 36:36
  Speaker 14: So technology does not always operate in their own interest
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  Speaker 14: in a way that works to the benefit of mankind,
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  Speaker 14: to the U.S.
• 36:44
  Speaker 10: Constitution, and so forth.
• 36:45
  Speaker 14: So I'm not at all opposed to certain types of regulation.
• 36:49
  Speaker 14: To give just one kind of concrete example as to
• 36:50
  Speaker 14: what that might look like, Here in Florida, where I live,
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  Speaker 14: our attorney general, James Uthmeyer, who's excellent, is suing Sam
• 36:57
  Speaker 14: Altman's OpenAI because, among other things, there have been some
• 37:01
  Speaker 14: cases here in Florida of teenage girls typing into the algorithm,
• 37:05
  Speaker 14: how do I harm myself? And the algorithm actually gives
• 37:07
  Speaker 14: back an answer. That should never happen. That should never,
• 37:11
  Speaker 14: ever happen. If you want to ask the very super-intelligent
• 37:15
  Speaker 14: SI machine, how do I go ahead– and commit a homicide?
• 37:18
  Speaker 14: How do I create a bioweapon? It shouldn't answer these questions.
• 37:22
  Speaker 14: So there definitely should be some guardrails. But zooming out
• 37:25
  Speaker 14: a little bit, Rita, I do think a lot of
• 37:27
  Speaker 14: the backlash is ultimately misplaced. The data center backlash, I think,
• 37:30
  Speaker 14: is largely misplaced. Guess what runs on data centers? Oh, yeah,
• 37:33
  Speaker 14: the internet, the entire cloud. runs on data centers gmail
• 37:37
  Speaker 14: wikipedia all this runs on data centers so i'm not
• 37:40
  Speaker 14: saying don't find ways to try to alleviate costs we
• 37:44
  Speaker 14: can get creative but in in the long run rita
• 37:47
  Speaker 14: i do worry about trying to unilaterally take your foot
• 37:50
  Speaker 14: off the pedal and ultimately just seeding the digital train
• 37:53
  Speaker 14: the 21st century to the chinese communist party which i
• 37:55
  Speaker 14: know wants a very different lay of the land on
• 37:58
  Speaker 14: the internet than does the united states of america.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: I want to ask you about anthropic CEO Dario Amodei.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: He's one of the leaders in this field.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: He and President Trump seem to be at odds on
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: certain issues. They seem to be on the same page
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: on other issues. I've got to say, Josh, I don't
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: trust this guy. This is the man who has assembled
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: a team of far-left ideologues to oversee and supposedly safeguard
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: our tech future. I find that far more scary than any...
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: doomsday scenarios about AI.
• 38:34
  Speaker 14: Yeah, no, I completely agree with you. Dario Amadei is
• 38:37
  Speaker 14: not even remotely likable. Sam Altman of OpenAI, not even
• 38:41
  Speaker 14: remotely likable. I mean, frankly, Rita, they should be having
• 38:44
  Speaker 14: case studies in Harvard Business School. about like the absolute
• 38:48
  Speaker 14: worst way to sell your product. And this is one
• 38:51
  Speaker 14: of my frustrations, because again, I think that AI is
• 38:54
  Speaker 14: a valuable tool. I use it sporadically, not very frequently,
• 38:57
  Speaker 14: but I use it on occasion to help with certain
• 39:00
  Speaker 14: specific projects. It's a very valuable and powerful tool. And again,
• 39:04
  Speaker 14: I do accept the basic premise of this U.S. versus
• 39:06
  Speaker 14: China ARAs. That makes a lot of sense to me.
• 39:09
  Speaker 14: But these guys are doing themselves no favors. I mean,
• 39:11
  Speaker 14: if you listen to Dario Amadei, Sam Altman and some
• 39:14
  Speaker 14: of the others, what they're basically saying is, oh, yeah,
• 39:17
  Speaker 14: we might actually just kill a ton of jobs and
• 39:19
  Speaker 14: we actually might destroy humanity. But no, just totally listen
• 39:23
  Speaker 14: to us. I mean, what a ridiculous premise. What a
• 39:26
  Speaker 14: ridiculous message to begin with. Now, frankly, it's actually even
• 39:31
  Speaker 14: worse than that. They're actually acting in deeply cynical fashion
• 39:34
  Speaker 14: because a lot of this urge to regulate from Anthropic,
• 39:37
  Speaker 14: from OpenAI, it's just regulatory capture. They're just trying to
• 39:41
  Speaker 14: lock out competitors by trying to lock in their existing
• 39:44
  Speaker 14: market share. because they're a few years ahead of the curve.
• 39:46
  Speaker 14: So it's gross cronyism on top of that. So it's
• 39:50
  Speaker 14: all terrible. But again, that doesn't mean that you throw
• 39:52
  Speaker 14: the baby out with the bathwater. The underlying product happens
• 39:55
  Speaker 14: to be valuable. But yeah, I'm with you on Dario Amadei.
• 39:57
  Speaker 14: I mean, this guy is about as likable.
• 39:59
  Speaker 10: As syphilis, frankly.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Josh Hammer, thank you for your time.
• 40:04
  Speaker 10: Thank you, Rita. Appreciate it.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Still to come, Saturday Night Live quotes fun and activist, singer, rapper, Macklemore.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Michael Loftus will have all your entertainment news next.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Welcome back.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Now we have seen Macklemore launch a free Palestine tour.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: It seems being dumped as Ed Sheeran's opening act has
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: reinvigorated Macklemore's career. He hasn't had a hit since 2018
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: but now he's back in a big way and even
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Saturday Night Live is poking fun at the activist singer-rapper.
• 40:44
  Speaker 15: Rapper Macklemore, who was dropped as the opening act for
• 40:48
  Speaker 15: Ed Sheeran, announced that he is launching a free Palestine tour.
• 40:55
  Speaker 15: But haven't the Palestinian people been through enough?
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Joining me now is comedian and host of the Loftus
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Party podcast, Michael Loftus. Michael, it seems like it's Ed
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Sheeran who's been cancelled here and Macklemore is getting all
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: sorts of accolades and attention he hasn't really enjoyed for years.
• 41:18
  Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm ready for Mackle-less. I'm old enough to remember
• 41:22
  Speaker 13: when One Hit Wonders had the kindness and decency just
• 41:26
  Speaker 13: to go away. This Macklemore thing, listen, it'll end soon enough.
• 41:31
  Speaker 13: I looked up tickets to his show. He wants like $ 200.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: How many times is he going to sing Thrift Shop?
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: He's got the one song. Ed Sheeran's Mistake. Was ever apologizing.
• 41:45
  Speaker 13: That's what Ed Sheeran just should have come out and said,
• 41:47
  Speaker 13: you're here for music and a good time and not politics.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: We're moving on.
• 41:51
  Speaker 13: But then he started crying and make a watching Ed
• 41:54
  Speaker 13: Sheeran handle. This was like watching a kitten getting thrown into.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: A den of lions. It's it's all horrible.
• 42:01
  Speaker 13: And I just I want it all to be over.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: You know what, he needs someone like you in his
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: camp giving him sound advice like that because that's where
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: he's gone wrong. I mean, he went wrong selecting Macklemore
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: to begin with, given his track record, but then that
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: pitiful apology explanation, the speeches, it just made everything worse.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: And you know what, Dolly Parton.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: was beloved, universally loved, and went through her entire career
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: without preaching about politics. And if she can do it,
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: I'm sure Ed Sheeran could have done it if he just,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know, develop a backbone, stick by her principles.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Now we saw the incredible mass meltdown inspired by Sydney
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Sweeney stripping off for a sports gambling site for a
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: little commercial. So many women claiming she was a poor
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: example for women's sport, even though that's not what she
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: was promoting.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Well, it turns out, Michael.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: That Sydney Sweeney is actually quite the sportswoman.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Watch her tear up the water here. Yeah, I'm breathing
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: it in.
• 43:09
  Speaker 8: Just listening to the waves crash, feel the salt on
• 43:13
  Speaker 8: my skin.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know, that looked pretty impressive, Michael.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Perhaps all those women who attacked her should apologise.
• 43:22
  Speaker 13: Yeah, they should, because it turns out everybody's a fan
• 43:26
  Speaker 13: of Sidney Sweeney, including Mother Nature. Did you see that video?
• 43:31
  Speaker 13: That lake was smooth as glass. The sky was— it was beautiful.
• 43:34
  Speaker 13: It was like a picture postcard. This Sidney Sweeney girl,
• 43:39
  Speaker 13: she can be a great businesswoman, invest in gambling sites.
• 43:43
  Speaker 13: She looks good in the buff. She can water ski.
• 43:46
  Speaker 13: Now I find out she fixes vintage cars as well. Listen, somebody—
• 43:52
  Speaker 13: needs to get her in cahoots with Elon Musk and
• 43:55
  Speaker 13: start some new superhuman race of beings.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: They'll solve all our problems.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: You are so right. That video is just spectacular. It
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: wants you to be out on the water. I see
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: that and I'm like, why don't I water ski? I
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: need that in my life. It's like a Tourism commercial.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: I want to find out precisely where that spot is.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: And be there.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Now let's check in on an actor who, well, she
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: never really looks very happy. Ellen Page, who has transitioned,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: is now known as Elliot Page. And Elliot currently features
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: as one of New York magazine's cover stars for its
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: first ever issue dedicated to men's style.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: Michael, have a look at this.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: I've got to say, Elliot doesn't look thrilled here. I'm
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: supposed to say stunning and brave, I think. But is
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: this part of the male condition for Paige to always
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: look miserable? Every time I see this actor, I worry.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Me too. Me too.
• 45:02
  Speaker 13: I haven't seen a smile or a happy image of
• 45:06
  Speaker 13: Elliot Page. And this whole story drove me nuts. Like,
• 45:10
  Speaker 13: this is the New Yorker or New York Magazine doing
• 45:14
  Speaker 13: a men's fashion interview. And they don't have, they have
• 45:20
  Speaker 13: a shirtless trans dude on there. Like none of that
• 45:23
  Speaker 13: has to do with men's fashion. And Elliot Page here
• 45:27
  Speaker 13: doesn't look like he should be on the cover of
• 45:29
  Speaker 13: the magazine. He looks like he should be standing next
• 45:31
  Speaker 13: to a car wreck and he's worried about talking to
• 45:34
  Speaker 13: the cops.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: That's that look on the face. Like I didn't see nothing.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: I just, you know, the car just spun out. Put
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: a man on the cover and put a shirt on.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: What sort of fashion is that? No, they're just showing
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: off the scars. We know precisely what they're doing. We
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: know what the dog whistle is.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: And good on you.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Very woke of you to respect the new pronouns. So, yeah,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: there you go. Michael Loftus, progressive and woke. So, yeah,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: send the hate mail to him, not to me.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Tom Cruise has... proved once.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Again why he is one of the most loved actors
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: in Hollywood. Have a look at this moment where he
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: checks up on a girl doom-scrolling.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: I think he thought she was in distress.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Michael, I said beloved, but he does have his haters
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: as well, I've got to say. Which camp are you in?
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Are you a Tom hater or a Tom lover? You
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: can't be on the fence with this one.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: I'm pro Tom Cruise.
• 46:48
  Speaker 13: That guy single-handedly saved Hollywood when he did the Top
• 46:53
  Speaker 13: Gun sequel.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: That's fantastic. And it's like a superpower he has. He
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: can just walk up to a stranger in fist bumper
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: and it makes the news. Like that's the power of
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Tom Cruise right there.
• 47:04
  Speaker 13: If a regular guy does that, there's a chance he's
• 47:07
  Speaker 13: up on charges of sexual harassment. Like if an ugly
• 47:11
  Speaker 13: dude walks up to a girl and he's like, are
• 47:13
  Speaker 13: you OK?
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: She's like, why did you touch me? But when Tom
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Cruise does it, she's like, oh, come back and let's
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: get a picture.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's incredible.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: And he's been doing quite a few interviews for his
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: latest films. And everyone seems to be marveling at how
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: nice he is. And there's a debate about whether it's genuine.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Is he acting genuine? The majority opinion seems to be
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: he's a genuinely nice guy. A lot of people who've
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: worked with him in crews over the years have come
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: out and said, yep, What you see is what you get.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: He's a nice guy.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Now, Kristi Noem, she's retired from politics these days and
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: she's filed for divorce from her husband, Brian. That's Brian
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: with an O. I'd divorce him just for that. Now,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: this divorce announcement comes months after a bombshell report detailing
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: his affinity for bimbofication fetish models. Apparently it's where adult
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: performers are augment their breasts with massive amounts of saline
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: to achieve a Barbie doll appearance. Michael, Byron allegedly sent
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: hundreds of messages to at least three models. Must have
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: been absolutely humiliating for Kristi Noem.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want to give Kristi a lot of credit.
• 48:35
  Speaker 13: We found out about this back in March and she's
• 48:39
  Speaker 13: just now Filing for divorce.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: She gave it a try. She gave it a shot.
• 48:45
  Speaker 13: You know, you look at those pictures and in his
• 48:48
  Speaker 13: like bimbo fetish thing, he's the bimbo.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Like he's got the big. So I don't think. Yes.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: I don't think Christy was ever going to make him happy.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think they had a lot of chance. But
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: she gave it six months. She tried.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: She did.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: So he was dressing up as the bimbo, but he
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: was also messaging female bimbo. bimberfication connoisseurs, if that's what
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: we're calling them. I mean, this is a confusing story and, frankly,
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: a disturbing story. way to end this segment. But Michael Loftus,
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time. And that's all
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: from me. Late Edition is up next.