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- 0:07Speaker 1: All right, 7 o'clock hour here on this Monday. Chuck
- 0:10Speaker 1: Anders and Chris with you. Sorry we're running a little
- 0:12Speaker 1: bit late. Blame it on Mike Benton. Blame it entirely
- 0:15Speaker 1: on Mike Benton. I do it regularly.
- 0:17Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 0:19Speaker 1: He's got broad shoulders. He can handle it. Let's just
- 0:22Speaker 1: all gather forces and blame everything on Mike Benton. Let's
- 0:25Speaker 1: get to your headlines before Greg Bell joins us in
- 0:28Speaker 1: a minute from now, so I better be snappy about it.
- 0:31Speaker 1: The Hawks do win over the Cardinals 17-3. Absolutely dominated.
- 0:36Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals offense yesterday in the contest, Arizona, as
- 0:43Speaker 1: my dry papers won't cooperate, held to under 200 total
- 0:48Speaker 1: yards in the contest and four for 13 on third downs,
- 0:53Speaker 1: which was a huge part of that. Gardner Minshew just
- 0:57Speaker 1: could not move the chains, and the Seahawks went to
- 1:00Speaker 1: improve to 5-4 on the season. Drew Locke did suffer
- 1:03Speaker 1: another injury. This went to his oblique. He says he's
- 1:06Speaker 1: going to be good for next week. We'll find out
- 1:08Speaker 1: more from Greg here in a moment. Next up, the
- 1:10Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders. But the next news story that could
- 1:15Speaker 1: happen for the Seahawks could come tomorrow. The NFL trading
- 1:18Speaker 1: deadline is tomorrow. There's already been a significant trade this morning.
- 1:21Speaker 1: The Atlanta Falcons traded their best defensive player, Jesse Bates,
- 1:25Speaker 1: who might be first-team all-pro safety the way he's playing
- 1:28Speaker 1: this year, to the Jacksonville Jaguars for a second and
- 1:32Speaker 1: a fifth-round pick. College football, the Huskies' rally came up
- 1:36Speaker 1: short against Penn State Saturday. They lose 28-25, just could
- 1:40Speaker 1: not get the ball back in the fourth quarter when
- 1:42Speaker 1: they had the momentum. The college football poll is out
- 1:45Speaker 1: brand new. We got a brand new number one. It's
- 1:47Speaker 1: the Georgia Bulldogs barely ahead of undefeated Utah. Then it's
- 1:52Speaker 1: Notre Dame, UCLA, and Miami who lost to Notre Dame,
- 1:55Speaker 1: rounding out the top five. UW College basketball, they're in
- 1:59Speaker 1: action tonight against Mississippi Valley State at 7 p.m. And
- 2:03Speaker 1: as we discussed with Mike Benton, the Kraken, they are
- 2:06Speaker 1: off until Thursday because they traveled to Finland. Well, they'll
- 2:09Speaker 1: take on the Carolina Hurricanes this Thursday morning, our time today.
- 2:13Speaker 1: The whole crew's been sent over to Helsinki. Should be
- 2:16Speaker 1: a lot of fun over there in Scandinavia. And then finally,
- 2:20Speaker 1: the Sounders' regular season comes to a close, and their
- 2:23Speaker 1: playoff hopes still alive. They're going to play in the
- 2:27Speaker 1: wild card game. 18 teams make the playoffs. They will
- 2:31Speaker 1: get into the best-of-three round if they can defeat Real
- 2:37Speaker 1: Salt Lake on November 19th.
- 2:39Speaker 3: So.
- 2:41Speaker 1: Just getting into the dance is all they're trying to do,
- 2:43Speaker 1: and they'll do that with a victory over RSL. Vancouver
- 2:48Speaker 1: will be the team they face if they do win
- 2:50Speaker 1: the wild card matchup. All right, let's talk to Greg Bell.
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- 3:16Speaker 2: Morning, Greg. Good morning. Good morning.
- 3:22Speaker 1: Well, that was a rather dutiful win. It was pretty
- 3:26Speaker 1: much just, let's not do anything fancy. Let's just go
- 3:29Speaker 1: out there and win the line of scrimmage and win
- 3:32Speaker 1: a football game. I mean, there wasn't anything fancy about
- 3:34Speaker 1: it yesterday, Greg.
- 3:37Speaker 5: No, and this is the recipe we keep talking about,
- 3:40Speaker 5: or I keep talking about. The offense doesn't turn the
- 3:43Speaker 5: ball over. The defense is going to win most games.
- 3:46Speaker 5: And as Drew Locke said after the game, when the
- 3:49Speaker 5: defense gives up three points, it's pretty hard to lose.
- 3:52Speaker 5: and he would have to have gone out of his
- 3:54Speaker 5: way to lose the game. He got hurt in the
- 3:57Speaker 5: process of doing it, but again, for the third time
- 4:00Speaker 5: in three games he's played for injured Sam Darnold, Drew
- 4:03Speaker 5: Locke did not turn the ball over. 19-28, 185 yards,
- 4:07Speaker 5: touchdown pass to Barner, and no turnovers. So for the season,
- 4:11Speaker 5: he's got five touchdown passes and no turnovers while throwing
- 4:15Speaker 5: a high 60% of completion rate.
- 4:19Speaker 2: That'll win most games because of the Seahawks' defense. I
- 4:22Speaker 2: thought Nick Evenwarrior was the absolute stud of the game.
- 4:25Speaker 2: He took out Trey McBride on three different third downs,
- 4:29Speaker 2: and we all saw in the end zone the fourth
- 4:31Speaker 2: down when he broke up the pass to McBride from
- 4:34Speaker 2: behind in the end zone. But there were three other
- 4:37Speaker 2: times that he took out McBride and forced Minshew to
- 4:41Speaker 2: either throw somewhere else, take a sack, and then on
- 4:44Speaker 2: a fourth time on third down, he blitzed off the
- 4:47Speaker 2: edge and forced Minshew into an intentional grounding. After the
- 4:52Speaker 2: Cardinals went down the first drive, yet another opening drive
- 4:55Speaker 2: of an opponent moving down the field. Think Broncos, think Bears,
- 5:00Speaker 2: think most of the season there have been opponents scoring
- 5:03Speaker 2: early with long drives. Ten-play 89-yard drive to start the game.
- 5:08Speaker 2: After that, a field goal, of course. After that, they
- 5:11Speaker 2: went four stops in a row, and Nicky Morey had
- 5:14Speaker 2: something to do with every one of those third-down stops.
- 5:16Speaker 2: And he did it from different positions. Sometimes he lined
- 5:19Speaker 2: up against McBride in the slot. Sometimes it was tight
- 5:22Speaker 2: on the end. Sometimes it was as an edge rusher,
- 5:25Speaker 2: blitzing free on Minshew. He's just incredible. He really does
- 5:31Speaker 2: make the defense do what it does. When you say
- 5:34Speaker 2: the Seahawks are the best defense in the league, Nicky
- 5:37Speaker 2: Maury is the best player on the best defense.
- 5:40Speaker 1: Greg Bell with us, our Seahawks insider. Seahawks winning 17-3
- 5:44Speaker 1: over the Arizona Cardinals yesterday. to improve to five and
- 5:47Speaker 1: four on the season. So Drew suffers another injury. So
- 5:52Speaker 1: what's the latest with the oblique that he spent time
- 5:55Speaker 1: in the blue tent with?
- 5:57Speaker 2: Well, he was getting tests last night, and I assume
- 6:01Speaker 2: that was going to be including an MRI to see
- 6:03Speaker 2: if there's any structural damage to his oblique, which is
- 6:06Speaker 2: a muscle, of course. So it's most likely a strain.
- 6:10Speaker 2: He got it in the third quarter, second play of
- 6:14Speaker 2: the drive. He rolled out to the right away from Sweat,
- 6:17Speaker 2: the linebacker, and then he threw back across the middle
- 6:20Speaker 2: of the field. So he's running right and threw to
- 6:23Speaker 2: his left back across the middle, across his body and momentum.
- 6:27Speaker 2: Incomplete pass, and after that pass, he reached for his side,
- 6:32Speaker 2: and you could see it was somewhat bothering him the
- 6:33Speaker 2: rest of the drive. He finished it, and he went
- 6:35Speaker 2: straight into the tent. When he got to the sideline,
- 6:38Speaker 2: he stayed in there a few minutes. Came back, I've
- 6:41Speaker 2: been my binoculars the whole time on him to watch
- 6:43Speaker 2: what was going on. He threw some passes, gave a
- 6:46Speaker 2: thumbs up and a nod, talked a little bit to
- 6:48Speaker 2: Jalen Milrow, then put his helmet on, came back out
- 6:51Speaker 2: in the game. Said he wasn't really affected. Once he
- 6:54Speaker 2: was out there playing, it's when he sat down on
- 6:56Speaker 2: the bench and he started feeling it. He didn't say
- 6:59Speaker 2: it was nothing, but he said, you know, the adrenaline
- 7:02Speaker 2: and everything else. Mike McDonald says it's up in the air.
- 7:07Speaker 2: His coach's show comes on this morning, and he may
- 7:09Speaker 2: have more to say about that. Then he talks to
- 7:11Speaker 2: us at 3 o'clock today. But McDonald didn't say it
- 7:15Speaker 2: was not nothing either. So we'll see. We play, of course,
- 7:20Speaker 2: next Sunday in Las Vegas. It looks increasingly like what
- 7:24Speaker 2: we talked about last week, that the schedule is such
- 7:26Speaker 2: that they want to give Sam Darnold at least the
- 7:28Speaker 2: two games plus the buy-off. That would give him 19
- 7:33Speaker 2: days between getting hurt and then the practice week beginning
- 7:36Speaker 2: for November 28th against the 49ers. So even before kickoff yesterday,
- 7:41Speaker 2: I was thinking that Darnold was going to miss both
- 7:44Speaker 2: the Cardinals and the Raiders games, and that Locke would
- 7:47Speaker 2: have those two starts. So now, would that mean Jalen
- 7:50Speaker 2: Milrow has the start at the Raiders? That's what this
- 7:54Speaker 2: week will be all about.
- 7:54Speaker 1: How many games have you covered where there's a chance
- 7:57Speaker 1: that one of three quarterbacks could start in the upcoming game?
- 8:02Speaker 2: Yeah, that's unusual. Now that you ask me, T. Martin
- 8:08Speaker 2: started a Raiders season finale in San Diego back the
- 8:11Speaker 2: year after they won the Super Bowl in 2003. That
- 8:14Speaker 2: might be the last time they got down to a
- 8:17Speaker 2: third quarterback.
- 8:18Speaker 1: Greg Bell is with us, our Seahawks insider, and you
- 8:20Speaker 1: can get his coverage right there at 933kjr. com. And, of course,
- 8:25Speaker 1: joining us here on Chuck in the Mornings nearly every
- 8:28Speaker 1: day at 7.05. With running backs, I mean, yeah, I
- 8:33Speaker 1: get that they wanted to play this way, and 33
- 8:37Speaker 1: carries in the contest, and 120 yards, and more rush
- 8:42Speaker 1: attempts than pass attempts, but you still put just 17
- 8:45Speaker 1: points on the board, 3.6 yards per carry. I'm not
- 8:51Speaker 1: sure that's a formula that wins against good teams, but
- 8:55Speaker 1: it certainly was good enough to defeat the Arizona Cardinals
- 8:58Speaker 1: this what was your take on how they used the
- 9:01Speaker 1: running backs and how often they used the running backs?
- 9:05Speaker 2: Well, my surprise was Zach Charbonnet was the clear one. Yeah.
- 9:08Speaker 2: And Price was the clear two. I mean, Charbonnet got
- 9:11Speaker 2: more than half the snaps. 57% of the 38 of
- 9:14Speaker 2: the 67, while Price only got 24 snaps, 36%. And
- 9:20Speaker 2: it was Charbonnet who was getting the consecutive carries. It
- 9:23Speaker 2: was Charbonnet leading most of the drives. And then Price,
- 9:26Speaker 2: they would alternate enduring drives. Price ended up being the
- 9:29Speaker 2: leading receiver because of how good he was after the catch,
- 9:31Speaker 2: making guys miss. He made a couple linebackers just made
- 9:35Speaker 2: them look silly with head fakes after the catch on
- 9:37Speaker 2: short passes, 17- and 16-yard passes in particular. I'm thinking
- 9:42Speaker 2: about the first and second half. But Charbonnet looked like
- 9:46Speaker 2: he's all the way back to the point that he
- 9:48Speaker 2: may even be further ahead of Price in terms of
- 9:51Speaker 2: how much he was yesterday, in terms of how much
- 9:53Speaker 2: they use him. But I thought that would be flipped,
- 9:56Speaker 2: and I thought Price would be ahead of him and
- 9:58Speaker 2: be getting the ones reps and then they would use
- 10:00Speaker 2: Charbonnet as more of an inside zone guy. They had
- 10:03Speaker 2: Price running between the guards more than Charbonnet for most
- 10:06Speaker 2: of the game yesterday. Yeah, you're right about the yards
- 10:10Speaker 2: per carry, and they ran more than they threw because
- 10:14Speaker 2: they were ahead of the game the whole time. After
- 10:17Speaker 2: they took a 7-3 lead, they were unthreatened. I mean,
- 10:20Speaker 2: they could have won that game 7-3, and I think
- 10:22Speaker 2: they did feel threatened that the 7-3 lead wouldn't be enough. So, yes,
- 10:28Speaker 2: I agree with you that that's not a formula to
- 10:30Speaker 2: win against better teams, but they didn't want to expose
- 10:33Speaker 2: Drew Locke to more than they needed to. They didn't
- 10:35Speaker 2: want to have him throw more than they needed to,
- 10:37Speaker 2: and then once he, at the end of the third quarter,
- 10:39Speaker 2: had the oblique thing, it was basically just handoff. He
- 10:42Speaker 2: did throw four passes in the fourth quarter, but... The
- 10:46Speaker 2: soccer term, Jackson, Feltz, and Anders would appreciate it, is
- 10:49Speaker 2: they parked the bus. And they knew that Arizona wasn't
- 10:53Speaker 2: going to score on them.
- 10:55Speaker 1: No sacks. Zabel returning to left guard for Quentin Nelson yesterday.
- 11:00Speaker 1: I mean, is that a reflection on Drew getting rid
- 11:02Speaker 1: of the ball? Is that a reflection on the Arizona defense?
- 11:05Speaker 1: Is that a reflection on the offensive line back in
- 11:10Speaker 1: its original form just function better?
- 11:14Speaker 2: I think it was a function of them playing Arizona,
- 11:17Speaker 2: and it was a function of they didn't expose Drew
- 11:21Speaker 2: Locke to just deep drop backs and chuck the ball
- 11:23Speaker 2: as far as he could. He didn't throw the ball
- 11:25Speaker 2: down the field a whole lot. He got the ball
- 11:27Speaker 2: out quickly. They were, like I said, it was somewhat
- 11:31Speaker 2: of an offensive game plan like Week 18 at San
- 11:34Speaker 2: Francisco last year, like the Super Bowl. Our defense is
- 11:38Speaker 2: going to win the game. Just don't screw it up, offense.
- 11:40Speaker 2: That's basically what happened. A couple great Just magician punts
- 11:44Speaker 2: by Michael Dixon to begin the game. 60 yards and
- 11:48Speaker 2: a 50-some yarder that just joy-sticked down at the one-yard line. And, okay, defense,
- 11:54Speaker 2: you take care of the rest. Cardinals, good luck trying
- 11:57Speaker 2: to go 99 yards against these guys. That's basically how
- 12:00Speaker 2: they played Week 18 to win one seed in the
- 12:03Speaker 2: division last year against the 49ers. That's basically how they
- 12:06Speaker 2: played the Super Bowl, kicking a ton of field goals.
- 12:09Speaker 2: That's how they played yesterday, so... While it helped, and
- 12:13Speaker 2: the results are great, and it's going to be a
- 12:16Speaker 2: boost for Anthony Bradford. I talked to him in the
- 12:19Speaker 2: locker room yesterday. I think it was a confluence of
- 12:23Speaker 2: a bunch of things that conspired to make it look
- 12:26Speaker 2: better than maybe it really was.
- 12:27Speaker 1: And the barnyard play was back. I don't think I'd
- 12:30Speaker 1: do anything else.
- 12:31Speaker 2: Unconsecutive snap. Yeah.
- 12:32Speaker 1: I don't think I'd do anything else on third and one,
- 12:35Speaker 1: fourth and one, than go to that play. They can't
- 12:37Speaker 1: stop it. Nobody stops it.
- 12:39Speaker 2: Well, I... I can't remember them doing it on consecutive
- 12:42Speaker 2: snaps before. They did it on second and one from
- 12:45Speaker 2: the two. And we all, at first, in the press
- 12:47Speaker 2: box area, go, they're going to do it from the
- 12:49Speaker 2: two for the first time. I know they're trying to
- 12:50Speaker 2: get the first down. And then they did it from
- 12:53Speaker 2: first and goal to one on the very next snap.
- 12:55Speaker 2: They brought Ola with Timmy and Bobby Hart and practice
- 12:58Speaker 2: squad tackle in as the extra new fullbacks and had
- 13:01Speaker 2: those two offensive linemen push the back of Barner. They
- 13:06Speaker 2: didn't quite need too much of the push on either
- 13:07Speaker 2: one of those, but Yeah, a new wrinkle from Fleury,
- 13:11Speaker 2: and they use it on consecutive plays for, I think,
- 13:15Speaker 2: the first time since Barner started doing this. And then
- 13:17Speaker 2: they did it one other time for a conversion on
- 13:20Speaker 2: third down, too.
- 13:21Speaker 1: I know it's a win, so you probably let this
- 13:23Speaker 1: just go under the bridge, but was there any talk
- 13:25Speaker 1: from coaches or players about how terrible the officiating was yesterday?
- 13:32Speaker 2: No, especially after a win. They're smart enough to not
- 13:34Speaker 2: want to get fined. There were some people that were...
- 13:39Speaker 2: kind of scratching their heads, didn't talk on the record,
- 13:41Speaker 2: but just mumbling about. I mean, the penalty enforcement on
- 13:45Speaker 2: Sandell's late hit, they enforced that like it was back
- 13:50Speaker 2: at the start of the snap or dead ball before
- 13:52Speaker 2: the play and negating an offside. And usually a live
- 13:58Speaker 2: ball foul is adjudicated the same as defense's live ball foul,
- 14:04Speaker 2: and they offset each other even if the penalty is different.
- 14:08Speaker 2: That one in particular, the way they did that was weird.
- 14:11Speaker 2: And then the forward progress thing is just a cop-out.
- 14:15Speaker 2: When they get on the thing and say, oh, his
- 14:17Speaker 2: forward progress was stopped, they do that so that they
- 14:20Speaker 2: can't be subject to video replay review. Because if the Seahawks,
- 14:24Speaker 2: Mike McDonald would have thrown a challenge flag in one
- 14:26Speaker 2: second and would have won that challenge on the fumble
- 14:28Speaker 2: by McBride. He was just going forward, and the ball
- 14:31Speaker 2: got punched, and Ernest Jones punched the ball out. A
- 14:34Speaker 2: garden-variety fumble. Yeah. And... And they used the term forward
- 14:38Speaker 2: progress on a guy who never went backward. His forward
- 14:42Speaker 2: progress was never stopped. And that was the cop out
- 14:45Speaker 2: to keep a replay review. I thought that was just
- 14:51Speaker 2: made up might be the term for that. I don't
- 14:53Speaker 2: know what that was.
- 14:54Speaker 1: Yeah, and just so I don't sound like a homer, A.J.
- 14:57Speaker 1: Barner didn't catch that touchdown pass either. And they went
- 15:01Speaker 1: to the review board and came back with the wrong
- 15:04Speaker 1: call again. I mean, it wasn't just the guys on
- 15:07Speaker 1: the field, the guys in the booth. Virgil did not
- 15:09Speaker 1: catch that pass on the sidelines. I mean, it was
- 15:12Speaker 1: just one. I don't think Job was a pass interference
- 15:15Speaker 1: on McBride. I mean, it was just one bad call
- 15:18Speaker 1: after another yesterday on both sides.
- 15:21Speaker 2: Yeah, I did think Job. Oh, did you? Well, if
- 15:25Speaker 2: you put your hands on a receiver, even if he
- 15:27Speaker 2: acts or he falls down, you're going to get the penalty.
- 15:29Speaker 2: That's just how this league is. But the problem is
- 15:32Speaker 2: becoming that the league is so in bed with the
- 15:37Speaker 2: betting and the fantasy apps. They've just gone diving all in,
- 15:42Speaker 2: like most leagues have, for the advertising dollars and the revenue.
- 15:46Speaker 2: When you start getting stuff like this, or what happened
- 15:48Speaker 2: in the Denver-Carolina game when It appeared Sean Payton didn't
- 15:52Speaker 2: throw the challenge flag on a disputed, tipped-up-in-the-air interception. But
- 15:57Speaker 2: then they gave it to him anyway, even though he
- 15:59Speaker 2: looked like he threw the flag after the next play began,
- 16:01Speaker 2: which is against the protocol. Then you start wondering, wait,
- 16:05Speaker 2: what's going on here? Who's influencing what? There's a lot
- 16:08Speaker 2: of skepticism and cynicism about why some of these calls
- 16:11Speaker 2: get missed. And the league invited it themselves, how they
- 16:16Speaker 2: do what they do with the betting and the fantasy side.
- 16:20Speaker 1: Last minute, we'll have more time, obviously, to discuss this tomorrow,
- 16:23Speaker 1: but NFL trade deadline is tomorrow. Anything that you're hearing
- 16:28Speaker 1: that the Seahawks may or may not do?
- 16:31Speaker 2: Well, I still think they could make a relatively minor
- 16:34Speaker 2: add to running back. I don't think Jonathan Taylor's coming
- 16:37Speaker 2: for two top draft picks and $ 18 million a year
- 16:40Speaker 2: for the next couple years of his contract that they'd inherit.
- 16:44Speaker 2: But I wouldn't surprise me if it was a lower-tier
- 16:47Speaker 2: running back perhaps coming of depth. Wide receiver's interesting. Torrey
- 16:52Speaker 2: Horton took the role of Rashid Shaheed, who was out
- 16:55Speaker 2: again yesterday. It was the lowest production day, 51 yards
- 17:00Speaker 2: of Smith and Jigba's season so far. The NFL's leading receiver.
- 17:03Speaker 2: Ten targets, seven catches, but just 51 yards, which will
- 17:06Speaker 2: give you an example of what the game plan was
- 17:08Speaker 2: for Locke, throw on the ball quickly and get the
- 17:11Speaker 2: ball out of risk. But they're not flawless. And in
- 17:15Speaker 2: the last four years, when John Schneider has seen needs
- 17:19Speaker 2: and Mike McDonald has seen holes in that they need
- 17:22Speaker 2: to shore up to get to the playoffs, they have
- 17:23Speaker 2: done it. Back to Leonard Williams and Rasheed Shaheed and
- 17:27Speaker 2: Ernest Jones. And that's what they do. So it wouldn't
- 17:30Speaker 2: surprise me. But I don't know if it's going to
- 17:33Speaker 2: be a headliner of the all-pro Quinton Nelson ilk. By
- 17:37Speaker 2: the way, it was interesting after the game that Mike
- 17:40Speaker 2: McDonald said that Nelson has not had his surgery yet.
- 17:43Speaker 2: It's a minor procedure, is what he said Friday out
- 17:46Speaker 2: of nowhere, that Nelson needs on his knee, that it
- 17:49Speaker 2: was an issue that he had coming from the Colts,
- 17:51Speaker 2: which brings you to the specter of damaged goods that
- 17:54Speaker 2: the Seahawks got in a trade, but the Seahawks did
- 17:57Speaker 2: pass him in his physical, so that's on them. But
- 18:01Speaker 2: I'm not sure why he hasn't had the surgery yet,
- 18:03Speaker 2: and I was thinking he would be the guy that
- 18:05Speaker 2: would miss the next two games and use the bye
- 18:07Speaker 2: to get better and come back, but perhaps it might
- 18:09Speaker 2: be longer than that if he hasn't had his procedure yet.
- 18:12Speaker 1: All right, man. Well, 10 o'clock today, you're going to
- 18:14Speaker 1: break it all down?
- 18:16Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have a bunch of the locker room audio
- 18:19Speaker 2: that I had talking to Anthony Bradford about, so what
- 18:23Speaker 2: has this league been like? You've been benched, told they
- 18:25Speaker 2: don't need you, and now they need you. And he
- 18:29Speaker 2: chuckled and said, yeah, this is the first time I've
- 18:31Speaker 2: had to deal with the business of the NFL before.
- 18:35Speaker 2: A couple of Jadarian Price I talked to in the
- 18:37Speaker 2: locker room. You'll hear audio from all that. Tons that
- 18:40Speaker 2: I got in the locker room after the game. We'll
- 18:44Speaker 2: hear that and more at 10 o'clock. All right.
- 18:46Speaker 1: Sounds good. Thank you, man. We appreciate it.
- 18:49Speaker 2: Thanks. Happy Monday.
- 18:50Speaker 1: Greg Bell, our Seahawks insider, joining us here. You can
- 18:52Speaker 1: follow him at gbellseattle on X. And, of course, his
- 18:55Speaker 1: coverage now is our coverage here at KJR. Nothing has
- 18:59Speaker 1: improved more overnight than our website coverage of the Seahawks that...
- 19:05Speaker 1: We're lucky.
- 19:05Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 19:06Speaker 1: So if you want to check it out, he's got
- 19:08Speaker 1: reports on everything from yesterday there at 93.3 KJR.com. Coming
- 19:14Speaker 1: up next, we'll play some Factor Fiction at 7.35. We
- 19:17Speaker 1: think Chris has a good pick for you here at
- 19:20Speaker 1: 7.35 here today. Also coming up, the NFL trade deadline
- 19:24Speaker 1: is tomorrow, and there are two monster names worth monitoring.
- 19:28Speaker 1: Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
- 19:32Speaker 6: All right, back to fiction.
- 19:38Speaker 1: Coming up at 735, Christopher Kidd's pick. One of the
- 19:41Speaker 1: two of us kids got to get a win one
- 19:43Speaker 1: of these days, so we'll do that at 7 35
- 19:45Speaker 1: in the meantime NFL trading deadline day is tomorrow it'll
- 19:51Speaker 1: be a one o'clock hour time so most of our
- 19:53Speaker 1: show tomorrow will probably be dedicated to this very major
- 19:57Speaker 1: event will the Seahawks do anything We'll see. Remains to
- 20:01Speaker 1: be seen. Wouldn't be surprised if they did. But certainly
- 20:04Speaker 1: we're going to see some moves. We've already seen one
- 20:06Speaker 1: this morning. Now that teams have the last bit of
- 20:09Speaker 1: information that they required to either bolster their desires to move,
- 20:14Speaker 1: stand put, sell, buy. Well, we're getting the last games,
- 20:18Speaker 1: the last remnants of that information here tonight with the
- 20:22Speaker 1: Vikings taking on the Buffalo Bills. And so I'm expecting
- 20:26Speaker 1: a lot of moves. We got one this morning. Jesse
- 20:28Speaker 1: Bates is now a Jacksonville Jaguar traded from the Atlanta
- 20:31Speaker 1: Falcons just this morning for a two and a five.
- 20:35Speaker 1: But there are two big names out there that are
- 20:37Speaker 1: going to be discussed quite a bit in the next
- 20:39Speaker 1: 24-plus hours. Jonathan Taylor, the running back of the Indianapolis Colts.
- 20:44Speaker 1: Sounds like the Colts are willing to move him. Sounds
- 20:46Speaker 1: like their asking price has been really high. But, man, Anders,
- 20:50Speaker 1: if you're a Minnesota Vikings team that, you know, doesn't
- 20:54Speaker 1: necessarily want to bail on your quarterback situation or the
- 20:57Speaker 1: New York Giants. There are several teams out there that
- 21:02Speaker 1: might be able, with great defenses, to supplement their attack
- 21:08Speaker 1: by having that Mike McDonald formula. If we can just
- 21:11Speaker 1: get a top-tier running back with a great defense... um
- 21:15Speaker 1: maybe we could do something maybe we can maybe we
- 21:18Speaker 1: can actually be dangerous in the playoffs and Jonathan Taylor
- 21:22Speaker 1: is a name that I suspect is going to get
- 21:24Speaker 1: moved yeah I don't know why he wouldn't.
- 21:26Speaker 6: I don't either especially with you know that much um
- 21:30Speaker 6: on the salary cap table now There could be questions
- 21:34Speaker 6: of how much gets absorbed by the Colts versus whoever
- 21:38Speaker 6: trades for him. That would add more into the value
- 21:41Speaker 6: and all that stuff. All those cap gymnastics are going
- 21:43Speaker 6: to become a thing because he has a significant number
- 21:46Speaker 6: that goes against the cap, and most teams are going
- 21:48Speaker 6: to have to find a way to make that work
- 21:50Speaker 6: that maybe they didn't envision in the beginning.
- 21:52Speaker 1: Of the year. I can't imagine. I mean, Indianapolis is
- 21:55Speaker 1: well into their rebuild. Yes. I can't imagine that they're
- 21:58Speaker 1: going to, of all people, keep a veteran running back making—
- 22:02Speaker 1: top dollar at his position, but we shall see. The
- 22:05Speaker 1: other name, just quickly, Justin Herbert. The 0-8 charges are
- 22:09Speaker 1: probably going to move a number of players between now
- 22:12Speaker 1: and tomorrow. would they move a quarterback that clearly is
- 22:16Speaker 1: broken right now? And I don't know if Mike McDaniel
- 22:19Speaker 1: broke him or if his girlfriend broke him, but he
- 22:22Speaker 1: has never been bad. He's not been as great as
- 22:26Speaker 1: what a lot of people were waiting and waiting and
- 22:28Speaker 1: waiting for him to be, but he's never been terrible.
- 22:31Speaker 1: He is now terrible. He is officially terrible. Will a
- 22:35Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings team, a Baltimore Ravens team?
- 22:38Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 22:39Speaker 1: Somebody out there make a move for... a Justin Herbert
- 22:43Speaker 1: tomorrow before the trade deadline comes. It seems like there
- 22:48Speaker 1: should be some interest, but obviously he's not playing very
- 22:51Speaker 1: good football right now. And if he goes to another team,
- 22:54Speaker 1: he seems to have trouble adapting to new systems, even
- 22:58Speaker 1: though he's described as the most intelligent football player in
- 23:01Speaker 1: the entire league. So we'll see. But two guys that
- 23:04Speaker 1: we'll certainly talk a lot about tomorrow. Let's find out
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- 23:31Speaker 1: All right, nice job by Anders. Anders starting to pick
- 23:34Speaker 1: up the slack where Chris and I are not here
- 23:37Speaker 1: as of late. My trend continues. I'll say this about
- 23:41Speaker 1: my picks this year. I'm not keeping you on the
- 23:42Speaker 1: edge of your seat. They're blowouts one way or the other,
- 23:45Speaker 1: that's for sure.
- 23:46Speaker 6: You know a lot of the times before halftime what it's.
- 23:49Speaker 2: Going to be.
- 23:49Speaker 1: I'm either right on it or way off of it. Kidd,
- 23:53Speaker 1: on the other hand, has got to get going as well.
- 23:56Speaker 1: So he's got the pick today to get us started
- 23:59Speaker 1: this week. Where are you going? Going to go Monday
- 24:01Speaker 1: Night Football? Monday Night Football it is.
- 24:04Speaker 7: Go ahead and give me the Buffalo Bills favorite on
- 24:07Speaker 7: the road.
- 24:08Speaker 1: Against the Minnesota Vikings, minus three.
- 24:10Speaker 7: So if you agree to that, you're going to text
- 24:12Speaker 7: in FACT to 49451. Basically, I just need, we all need,
- 24:17Speaker 7: Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills to win by four
- 24:20Speaker 7: or more on the road.
- 24:22Speaker 1: They're going to, right? They have to. They're going to
- 24:24Speaker 1: smash them tonight. The Vikings are fraudulent.
- 24:28Speaker 2: Yes.
- 24:28Speaker 1: And I know they play great defense, and they do.
- 24:30Speaker 1: And I don't overuse the word great. I take great
- 24:33Speaker 1: pride in that. It's just a great part about me
- 24:38Speaker 1: that I find great. That's what great people do. They
- 24:43Speaker 1: don't overuse the word great.
- 24:45Speaker 2: That's great.
- 24:46Speaker 1: Yeah. But they can't stop Josh Allen, and they can't score.
- 24:54Speaker 1: I think this is a terrific pick. If you're wrong, kid,
- 24:57Speaker 1: maybe the fact or fiction gods just hate your guts.
- 25:00Speaker 1: You didn't think that last night? No, I didn't think
- 25:04Speaker 1: that was a great pick last night.
- 25:05Speaker 2: Oh. Okay.
- 25:06Speaker 7: Fair enough.
- 25:06Speaker 1: I didn't think it was a bad pick, but I
- 25:08Speaker 1: don't think it was as good as this pick.
- 25:10Speaker 6: Yeah. I have more confidence in this one. The Bills
- 25:15Speaker 6: are the better team. This is the classic, I'm picking
- 25:17Speaker 6: the better team here. And it's only favored by a
- 25:20Speaker 6: field goal. I know it's three, not two and a half.
- 25:22Speaker 6: Would have loved the hook there.
- 25:23Speaker 1: That would have been great.
- 25:24Speaker 6: But I still believe they're going to win by a touchdown, possibly.
- 25:28Speaker 2: I think so.
- 25:29Speaker 1: I think so. But all that matters is what you
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- 26:36Speaker 1: Taking the buffalo bills tonight he's gonna lay the three
- 26:39Speaker 1: even though it's on the road against the minnesota vikings
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- 27:08Speaker 1: on our radio program, it's Mike on the mic. Yes,
- 27:12Speaker 1: we'll hear from the head coach after yesterday's win over
- 27:14Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM. only had one
- 27:19Speaker 1: catch for nine yards, but yeah, pretty clear that the
- 27:23Speaker 1: game plan was we're going to win this with defense,
- 27:26Speaker 1: we're not going to turn the ball over, and at
- 27:28Speaker 1: least against this opponent, we can just run the football
- 27:32Speaker 1: without putting it at risk, and the best guy for
- 27:35Speaker 1: the job is Zach Charbonnet. Here is Mike McDonald on
- 27:39Speaker 1: Keeping It Running.
- 27:41Speaker 3: Really happy for Zach, happy for JD. Definitely felt Zach
- 27:44Speaker 3: and his power and the ability to break tackles and
- 27:48Speaker 3: on the sideline there, even though we got the penalty
- 27:50Speaker 3: to move us back. But I'm really just happy for him,
- 27:53Speaker 3: you know, just to put himself in that position. And
- 27:55Speaker 3: I think we're just going to continue to get better
- 27:58Speaker 3: with more reps and more experience.
- 28:02Speaker 1: He just likes that. He likes him.
- 28:04Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 28:05Speaker 1: He wants him to be the guy because he trusts
- 28:07Speaker 1: him not to fumble the football. I mean, let's face it.
- 28:10Speaker 1: Ken Walker's not here because Mike McDonald frequently– went to
- 28:16Speaker 1: Zach Charbonnet and not Ken Walker in crucial situations a
- 28:20Speaker 1: year ago, and especially before the end of the season.
- 28:24Speaker 1: Zach Charbonnet was the guy that Mike McDonald trusted more
- 28:29Speaker 1: than Ken Walker, and now that he's healthy, I know
- 28:32Speaker 1: what we heard going into the game. This is the
- 28:34Speaker 1: game where Price should get his 20 carries, his 20 touches.
- 28:37Speaker 1: As soon as I saw him return the game's first kick,
- 28:41Speaker 1: I'm like, nope, it's going to be Charbonnet, and it
- 28:43Speaker 1: was Charbonnet yesterday.
- 28:45Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 28:45Speaker 6: For whatever reason, they really, really, really want Zach Charbonnet
- 28:50Speaker 6: to be the guy.
- 28:52Speaker 1: I think it's just that they trust him not to fumble.
- 28:54Speaker 4: I really do.
- 28:55Speaker 1: Yeah, that might be all it is.
- 28:57Speaker 6: But Mike McDonald.
- 28:59Speaker 1: And get tough yards.
- 29:00Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 29:00Speaker 1: Because Ken Walker never fumbled. No, it's true. He never fumbled.
- 29:03Speaker 1: Never fumbled. Literally never fumbled.
- 29:05Speaker 6: But Mike McDonald on the sideline is not the rah-rah,
- 29:09Speaker 6: let's go, I'm going to high-five my guys. Oh, I'm
- 29:11Speaker 6: getting super excited when they make a big play. He's
- 29:14Speaker 6: normally very stoic. But the play he was talking about
- 29:17Speaker 6: in that clip that we just heard where they got
- 29:19Speaker 6: the penalty to move them back after a big couple
- 29:22Speaker 6: breaking tackles from Zach Charbonnet. Did you see how fired
- 29:25Speaker 6: up he was for Zach Charbonnet?
- 29:27Speaker 1: No, I did not.
- 29:28Speaker 6: You need to go back and watch that. I was like,
- 29:30Speaker 6: is that Mike McDonald doing that? I thought it was
- 29:33Speaker 6: an assistant. But it was Mike McDonald. That is how
- 29:36Speaker 6: excited he is and how much he wants Zach Charbonnet
- 29:39Speaker 6: to succeed. That was eye-opening to me, and I think
- 29:41Speaker 6: it explains everything you just said about they really want
- 29:44Speaker 6: him to succeed for whatever reason.
- 29:45Speaker 1: You know what he was saying that whole time he
- 29:47Speaker 1: was celebrating?
- 29:48Speaker 6: I was right!
- 29:49Speaker 1: Yeah! That's what he was saying the whole time.
- 29:53Speaker 2: Zach keeps on running. He moves those chains, baby. Zach,
- 30:00Speaker 2: keep on running.
- 30:01Speaker 1: He breaks more tackles. All right, so Zach Charbonnet, RB1
- 30:09Speaker 1: for now. Now, look, I mean, for the game plan,
- 30:13Speaker 1: for the opponent, worked well.
- 30:16Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 30:17Speaker 1: I don't know about this combo against great teams, great defenses.
- 30:22Speaker 1: And I don't know about this game plan in the
- 30:25Speaker 1: tournament when all you play are good to great teams
- 30:28Speaker 1: with good to great defenses. You're going to have to
- 30:32Speaker 1: have your quarterback. be a little bigger of a factor.
- 30:35Speaker 1: But for yesterday, it's all you needed. It's what you needed.
- 30:38Speaker 1: And I never felt at any point during the contest
- 30:40Speaker 1: that that game was in doubt. It was under control
- 30:44Speaker 1: and Zach Charbonnet played a significant role. So did A.J.
- 30:47Speaker 2: Barner.
- 30:48Speaker 1: The barnyard was back. They used it three different times.
- 30:51Speaker 1: It was successful all three times. He also had a
- 30:53Speaker 1: touchdown catch in the end zone as well. Here's Mike
- 30:59Speaker 1: McDonald on his tight end.
- 31:01Speaker 3: We love him and we, and we trust him and
- 31:02Speaker 3: we understand what type of player he is. We can
- 31:05Speaker 3: kind of feel the frustration with him of like, you know,
- 31:07Speaker 3: of what he expects from himself, but just, you know,
- 31:11Speaker 3: no flinch, just keep attacking it, you know, and he's
- 31:13Speaker 3: a leader on our offense and he provides so much,
- 31:15Speaker 3: so much great energy. So when he's on his game,
- 31:17Speaker 3: it really helps our offense. And so for him to
- 31:19Speaker 3: have that production is really cool to, you know, to prevent,
- 31:22Speaker 3: to get into some of those short, short yard situations
- 31:24Speaker 3: where we can run the sneak is kind of galvanizing,
- 31:26Speaker 3: you know, energize the group. And then, put the ball
- 31:28Speaker 3: away in the red zone when they take jacks away
- 31:30Speaker 3: is uh to have another option down there is is
- 31:33Speaker 3: really helpful.
- 31:34Speaker 1: Yeah i like them a lot too and i don't
- 31:36Speaker 1: think you use them enough no and i would like
- 31:39Speaker 1: to see more of that and right now there's a
- 31:41Speaker 1: we're down in elijah arroyo who may have never been
- 31:44Speaker 1: a part of this but i think the plan was
- 31:47Speaker 1: to have a couple tight ends a little more significantly
- 31:51Speaker 1: play this year um we've got the trading deadline tomorrow
- 31:55Speaker 1: you know A lot of people want a running back.
- 31:57Speaker 1: A lot of people want a wide receiver. They don't
- 32:00Speaker 1: think our wide receiver depth, there's not a wide receiver
- 32:04Speaker 1: two on this team. What about a tight end two?
- 32:08Speaker 1: What about, I mean, right now I'm staring at Dallas
- 32:10Speaker 1: Goddard rumors. What about a Dallas Goddard to add? Just,
- 32:14Speaker 1: I mean, not certainly a number two type target. As
- 32:18Speaker 1: a matter of fact, I don't even think he starts
- 32:20Speaker 1: above Barner.
- 32:21Speaker 2: No.
- 32:22Speaker 1: But to give you an extra dimension, to give you
- 32:24Speaker 1: an extra reliable pair of hands and a guy that
- 32:27Speaker 1: plays hard.
- 32:28Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 32:29Speaker 1: Plays through the whistle and can run block too. I mean,
- 32:33Speaker 1: Saubert's pretty much just a run block guy. Goddard can
- 32:36Speaker 1: do a few things out there. Is that an interesting
- 32:39Speaker 1: move for you?
- 32:39Speaker 2: Absolutely.
- 32:40Speaker 6: I think if nothing else, it gives you another guy
- 32:42Speaker 6: that whoever's a quarterback can throw to, because you saw,
- 32:46Speaker 6: I mean, when J.D. Price is your number one receiver and,
- 32:51Speaker 6: In terms of yards, like you're going to need more
- 32:54Speaker 6: than that most times than more times than not. Like
- 32:56Speaker 6: you have JSN obviously having a historic season yet again.
- 32:59Speaker 6: I think A.J. Barner is going to get better throughout
- 33:01Speaker 6: the year. Rashid Shaheed's injury is really concerning to me.
- 33:05Speaker 6: I don't know if that's that short term of a thing.
- 33:08Speaker 6: And Torrey Horton just hasn't stepped up into that role
- 33:10Speaker 6: since it's been there. And Cooper Cup just isn't that
- 33:13Speaker 6: guy anymore. You need another pass catcher that's at least
- 33:15Speaker 6: somewhat reliable just to give you another option.
- 33:18Speaker 1: We did not have an explosive play yesterday. Did you
- 33:21Speaker 1: know that? I did not, actually. That rarely happens in
- 33:25Speaker 1: a football game. We did not have a 15-yard run
- 33:27Speaker 1: or more because he got called back. And we did
- 33:30Speaker 1: not have a 20-yard pass or more and won the
- 33:34Speaker 1: game 17-3. And, yeah, you can win against the Arizona
- 33:37Speaker 1: Cardinals playing that way when you have a great defense
- 33:40Speaker 1: like the Seahawks do. But if this is the way
- 33:43Speaker 1: you want to play, if you do want to run
- 33:45Speaker 1: the football— and you do want to go higher percentage,
- 33:48Speaker 1: and you think the only way you can lose is
- 33:50Speaker 1: if your quarterback turns the ball over, why not get
- 33:53Speaker 1: a guy that only goes five to ten yards down
- 33:56Speaker 1: the field? Sure-handed. Maybe that is the better direction rather
- 34:02Speaker 1: than bringing a wide receiver to, or an overpay on
- 34:08Speaker 1: a running back at this stage in the process. I
- 34:12Speaker 1: don't know if it's what I would do, But I
- 34:15Speaker 1: think it at least is worth conversation.
- 34:18Speaker 2: Absolutely.
- 34:19Speaker 1: So we'll see if the Seahawks do anything between now
- 34:22Speaker 1: and tomorrow's trading deadline. But it is a 17-3 win
- 34:26Speaker 1: over the Arizona Cardinals. Hugh Millen is going to be
- 34:29Speaker 1: joining us next. Our Monday morning quarterback session from 8
- 34:32Speaker 1: to 9.40 this morning. Can't wait to get our QB1' s thoughts.
- 34:36Speaker 1: on everything going on with the Hawks. Also want to
- 34:39Speaker 1: let you know that there is a little bit of
- 34:41Speaker 1: breaking news. It is official. College football is going to
- 34:44Speaker 1: go to a 24-team college football playoff in time for
- 34:47Speaker 1: the 2027 season. It's a stupid idea.
- 34:51Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 34:53Speaker 1: All right, coming up next, QB1, Hugh Millen, Monday Morning
- 34:56Speaker 1: Quarterback on KJR.