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#010- "The line has been drawn in the sand" · Blue Grit Podcast: The Voice of Texas Law Enforcement

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SPEAKER_00: The line has been drawn in the sand that we're not gonna defund the police.
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SPEAKER_00: We are gonna fund law enforcement in the state of Texas because our citizens, that's one of the primary responsibilities, is to have those duties and thank you for your service.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, my family appreciates you being here, your presence.
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SPEAKER_00: I can continue enough how much we appreciate what you're doing.
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SPEAKER_00: So thank you.
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SPEAKER_00: And one of the guys he looked at me and he just said, Well, it's nice to hear that because most people don't say that these days.
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SPEAKER_01: Welcome back, TMPA viewers, watchers, viewers.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh, we got a really, really, really cool guest before we dive into that.
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SPEAKER_01: You guys hit that subscribe button.
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SPEAKER_01: Um I'm Tyler Owen, Clint McNear.
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SPEAKER_01: Man, it's uh it's been a busy week.
0:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, good morning.
0:42
SPEAKER_01: Good morning.
0:42
SPEAKER_01: Rough night last night.
0:43
SPEAKER_01: We had a we had a little good time.
0:45
SPEAKER_01: Had a guest on and um went and had dinner with him.
0:48
SPEAKER_01: We got a guest on today that's a good friend, uh, a good man, and just a damn good Texan.
0:55
SPEAKER_01: Controller Glenn Hager.
0:56
SPEAKER_01: Good to be with you all today.
0:58
SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Blue Grip, man.
0:59
SPEAKER_01: Little little tight quarters.
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SPEAKER_01: I like that this morning.
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SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
1:01
SPEAKER_01: I could put my arm around you.
1:03
SPEAKER_01: That's all right.
1:03
SPEAKER_01: I probably had the state security team coming in here and going, what the hell's going on?
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SPEAKER_01: Karen's gonna get you from the corner over there.
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SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
1:09
SPEAKER_01: Well, man, uh let's just dive on to it.
1:12
SPEAKER_01: Sounds great.
1:13
SPEAKER_01: Where'd you grow up at?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I grew up in a little community, not so little anymore.
1:17
SPEAKER_00: Uh Hockley, Texas, northwest out of Houston, Highway 290.
1:21
SPEAKER_00: People travel in and out of Houston.
1:22
SPEAKER_00: If you blink, you miss it.
1:23
SPEAKER_00: That's how big it was when uh people drive through there.
1:25
SPEAKER_00: Not so much today.
1:26
SPEAKER_00: You know, suburbia is growing.
1:28
SPEAKER_00: We grow a thousand people, twelve hundred people a day in Texas.
1:31
SPEAKER_00: Hard to imagine that much growth have for the last decade and continue will people want to come here for an economic opportunity.
1:36
SPEAKER_00: But long story short, my family moved out there in the 1840s.
1:40
SPEAKER_00: And so my line got there in 1846, uh, grew up on a family farm operation.
1:45
SPEAKER_00: Uh, me and my dad, my cousin, and and a whole lot of uncles, which was really a great working environment as a young kid.
1:51
SPEAKER_00: You were working early.
1:53
SPEAKER_00: Um when I was in college, for example, you know, I kind of make the comment sometimes my friends they went off for spring break wherever they went to, and I went back to Hockley, Texas.
2:01
SPEAKER_00: So uh I got I got to work on the farm.
2:03
SPEAKER_00: Either it was, you know, Christmas, spring break, summers, but but it taught it taught me a really good work ethic.
2:10
SPEAKER_00: And that and I think you know, I can't can't think of a better environment and also kind of problem solving.
2:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, uh, you know, the old jokes in agriculture, well, duct tape and balance wire.
2:21
SPEAKER_00: Well, we used our fair share.
2:23
SPEAKER_00: Uh sometimes you just got to figure out how to solve the problem.
2:26
SPEAKER_00: And and it may not be the best idea, but you get through the day.
2:28
SPEAKER_00: So anyway, grew up out there.
2:30
SPEAKER_00: Well, after uh going to school, decided to move back home, worked with the family.
2:34
SPEAKER_00: My wife and I, she she grew up in the Katy area, which is where we call home.
2:38
SPEAKER_00: And uh I you know decided to be in wanted to run for office one day, and I've been around the Austin process ever since then.
2:44
SPEAKER_00: Did you start at the local level and then go?
2:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so after we uh got got finished with college and moved back home, decided that's where our support network was from.
2:53
SPEAKER_00: Our families actually knew each other.
2:55
SPEAKER_00: Uh we didn't know each other till we met in college, but our families did because you know back then there was nobody that lived out on the Katy Prairie in that west area.
3:01
SPEAKER_00: And so uh Just not related.
3:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, not related, not related.
3:04
SPEAKER_00: They knew each other, but we weren't related, thankfully.
3:06
SPEAKER_00: So we we we we stopped there.
3:08
SPEAKER_00: Um so so anyway, uh we moved back to Katy.
3:11
SPEAKER_00: I went back to work with the family, and and for whatever reason, it's kind of like a lot of us in life.
3:15
SPEAKER_00: You know, you think about what do you want to do, and you really think about the family members because that's what you know they do.
3:20
SPEAKER_00: Um but anyway, the bottom line is for some reason I always thought I wanted to serve in some capacity.
3:29
SPEAKER_00: Never knew where, never knew if it would happen.
3:31
SPEAKER_00: Um, but the fact is my family, they voted, but that was about it.
3:35
SPEAKER_00: Um they they they were not involved in in politically in any shape, form, or fashion.
3:39
SPEAKER_00: Nobody ever ran for office.
3:41
SPEAKER_00: And so I ran originally after the redistricting process of 2001 when there was a brand new legislative district created for Waller County, part of Fort Bennett and Wharton County were the three counties.
3:54
SPEAKER_00: And so I ran for that seat.
3:55
SPEAKER_00: We had no children.
3:56
SPEAKER_00: Uh my wife and I worked really hard, door-to-door campaign day after day, and ended up, you know, coming out on the uh top side of five people in that primary on primary election night.
4:09
SPEAKER_00: True story, had to stay up till about 2, 2:30 in the morning.
4:12
SPEAKER_00: We waited for the very last precinct to come in to find out of the top three people, which of the two were in the runoff.
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SPEAKER_00: And so my home county voted for me overwhelming because the family had been there.
4:25
SPEAKER_00: My grandfather was a Baptist preacher, one of the communities.
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SPEAKER_00: They knew all, you know, the families.
4:29
SPEAKER_00: Was it on your dad's side?
4:30
SPEAKER_00: Because I think that matters for the last name.
4:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
4:32
SPEAKER_00: It does.
4:32
SPEAKER_00: Uh so you know, everybody knew from an agriculture community, the dad's side, my mom's side, my grandfather was a Baptist preacher.
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SPEAKER_00: So, you know, a lot of connections in the community.
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SPEAKER_00: And so, you know, I know a lot of people probably supported me because of those family connections.
4:45
SPEAKER_00: Um, but the bottom line was, you know, didn't do as well in some of the other counties, and understandably so, but literally we had to wait until 2 30 in the morning, the last precinct to come in, who was in the runoff?
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SPEAKER_00: Because one had 29, one had 28, and one had 27.
4:58
SPEAKER_00: Oh, wow.
4:59
SPEAKER_00: And so got in the runoff, won the runoff, served for four years.
5:02
SPEAKER_00: My state senator didn't decide not to run for re-election, and I decided one of 31 versus one of 150.
5:08
SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm gonna run for the Senate, did not have seniority built up in the House and served there for a while.
5:14
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, I've been really blessed.
5:15
SPEAKER_00: It's a great part of the state of Texas and now serving statewide.
5:18
SPEAKER_00: You get to travel the state a lot, give a lot of speeches, go see communities on different tours about the economics aspects of the state.
5:26
SPEAKER_00: And it is just it is a remarkable state.
5:29
SPEAKER_00: You know, really Texas, whether you're in the panhandle, the valley, West Texas, Northeast, Southeast Texas, it's just everything's a little bit different.
5:38
SPEAKER_00: So it's uh it's a great opportunity, and I love to see the state and get to see the people across the state because we've got a lot of good folks in the state.
5:44
SPEAKER_00: We've got a lot of really good, hardworking people.
5:46
SPEAKER_01: And it's just it it's huge.
5:48
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you don't really think about how big Texas is.
5:50
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we're obviously we're a statewide police association.
5:52
SPEAKER_01: Uh I live in East Texas and Clint lives up in the uh DFW area, but uh, you know, I tell people all the time they're gonna go for vacation and we're gonna go to Florida.
6:00
SPEAKER_01: Now I was like, man, Texas is so big, it's it's huge.
6:03
SPEAKER_01: I don't know why people just don't stay here.
6:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I joke in some of my speeches, you know, I tell folks if anybody in this room wants to run statewide, I need you to come talk to me first because it's a lot bigger than you think it is.
6:14
SPEAKER_00: Uh and and you know, I guess I didn't appreciate that until when I ran for uh statewide in this position.
6:20
SPEAKER_00: My staff who was working for my campaign team said, you know, every every week you need to take a day or two off.
6:25
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, uh-uh.
6:26
SPEAKER_00: We don't we don't stop until we're finished.
6:28
SPEAKER_00: Um and I just I'm I grew up that way.
6:30
SPEAKER_00: Um I think after about a month, I said, okay, I think I need a day off.
6:33
SPEAKER_00: Um it just, you know, traveling in the car, it's brutal and it's a big state.
6:37
SPEAKER_00: But but it's awesome to see.
6:38
SPEAKER_00: It's really remarkable, and and every area is a little bit different, which is which is pretty cool.
6:43
SPEAKER_00: You know, we're we're really a combination of a whole bunch of states in a way.
6:46
SPEAKER_00: So your first role was as a state rep?
6:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was a state rep.
6:50
SPEAKER_00: So uh so oh man, I think I got elected when I was 31 years old.
6:53
SPEAKER_00: I had no gray hair back then.
6:55
SPEAKER_00: The world has changed.
6:56
SPEAKER_00: Uh two things called being elected office and three teenage kids.
6:59
SPEAKER_00: Uh it'll do it to you.
7:00
SPEAKER_00: So highlights.
7:02
SPEAKER_00: I I I see those highlights over there.
7:04
SPEAKER_00: Um I got highlights too.
7:06
SPEAKER_00: I can tell you much.
7:07
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I was in the Texas House of Representatives, and uh one of the committees that I originally served on uh when I was there was in the law enforcement committee.
7:17
SPEAKER_00: And so nobody in my family had been in law enforcement immediately, is in my mom or or or or my dad's side.
7:24
SPEAKER_00: Um, like I said, you know, either Baptist preaching or or or in agriculture in some way, but I you know got on the committee.
7:31
SPEAKER_00: I love the committee, it was really interesting work, some of the interesting challenges and issues that that your members face on a sing every single day.
7:39
SPEAKER_00: So while I was in the House, I did law enforcement committee for for those four years.
7:43
SPEAKER_00: And then when I moved to the Senate, I decided I wanted to continue that in the Criminal Justice Committee.
7:47
SPEAKER_00: And so I was over on the criminal justice issues for for many years.
7:50
SPEAKER_00: And it's really interesting the complexity of issues that the members the members have.
7:54
SPEAKER_00: And and you know, even though I may not deal in those areas every single day, it gave me a basic framework of some of the various issues that you know your members face, which we as citizens face and the challenges, you know.
8:05
SPEAKER_00: Say for example, uh I I brought this up not too long ago because we're we're dealing with in my office, uh, we have the opioid money that's been brought to the state of Texas and trying to deal with that very real issue.
8:16
SPEAKER_00: And and just in the last couple years, as that as that we're standing that office up to distribute those monies with our board members, the fact is, is now it's much more instead of opioid as in prescription drugs, it's fentanyl.
8:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
8:29
SPEAKER_00: You know, and one pill literally kills kids.
8:32
SPEAKER_00: Um, and and that's changed just in the last couple years.
8:34
SPEAKER_00: But but but back to when I was first in the house, one of those issues that we had to deal with was uh methamphetamines.
8:42
SPEAKER_00: And so, you know, trying to come up with a reasonable way to to figure out how do you uh take drugs people can get prescription, as in, you know, for antihistamine, and move it behind the counter, which helped solve the problem that your members were having to deal with because they don't even know what they're walking into.
8:58
SPEAKER_00: They walk into some house or lab.
9:00
SPEAKER_00: Well, you don't know how toxic this stuff is.
9:02
SPEAKER_00: And your members come in and testify that literally lung capacity has decreased because they walked into something they didn't know and didn't have the proper breathing equipment on.
9:11
SPEAKER_00: And and so by doing that, we helped solve the problem.
9:14
SPEAKER_00: But unfortunately, it just started coming over from Mexico and other countries, which was even more toxic.
9:18
SPEAKER_01: We had a board patrol vice president, their their locals or their national association on a couple weeks ago.
9:24
SPEAKER_01: Uh and he'd talk about a wild story and and and and to think about it.
9:28
SPEAKER_01: He he described it as a parade.
9:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
9:30
SPEAKER_01: And he said the areas down there, the the the local communities, it doesn't really affect them.
9:36
SPEAKER_01: But watching it pass by is kind of how it how he depicted.
9:39
SPEAKER_01: And he also had a really good analogy of uh, you know, almost like a sink overflowing.
9:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
9:44
SPEAKER_01: You would stop the water and then clean it up, and he said it's it's it's just flowing, it's overflowing, and it's horrible.
9:50
SPEAKER_01: And so anyway.
9:53
SPEAKER_02: The scary part of his episode was I think he said last year there was a hundred and sixty-one different countries represented that they that they interdicted.
10:01
SPEAKER_02: No, I didn't the general public thinks oh it's just Hispanics coming over to pick crops, and yeah, he's got Russians and Ukrainians and Chinese, and I'm thinking Saudis.
10:11
SPEAKER_02: I doubt the uh I doubt the people from Iran and uh and uh some of those countries are coming to pick crops.
10:16
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
10:17
SPEAKER_00: And you know, for for families like mine who have for a decade and a half have a ranch down over in Maverick County, which the town next to us is Eagle Pass.
10:26
SPEAKER_00: People have heard about that community all the time.
10:29
SPEAKER_00: And you know, with my son, we we go hunting a lot.
10:32
SPEAKER_00: I grew up outdoors, I love the outdoors, I take my girls on, but they don't like to go to kind of man camp as much as he does.
10:38
SPEAKER_00: Uh they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
10:39
SPEAKER_00: I'll I'll I'll take a little nicer facilities, but that's okay.
10:41
SPEAKER_00: I understand.
10:42
SPEAKER_00: I respect that.
10:43
SPEAKER_00: Um, but you know, so we spend a lot of time down there, and it's good one-on-one opportunities.
10:47
SPEAKER_00: And, you know, we had a lot of plumbing problems the other week, and so I was telling some folks, I said, he may not be a state certified plumber, but at 14, by God, he's dad certified.
10:55
SPEAKER_00: Um, so he's learned a lot out there, you know.
10:57
SPEAKER_00: So we do do things, but where I'm coming to with this story is the point is is in the last two years, up until a couple years ago, we knew people walk through, but we never saw anybody.
11:07
SPEAKER_00: Right.
11:07
SPEAKER_00: And then just the explosion of the traffic, and then when you have, you know, cameras or you see people and they're dressed in either black outfits and or camo with big backpacks, those people aren't coming here to work.
11:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
11:20
SPEAKER_00: They're moving drugs.
11:22
SPEAKER_00: And and so, you know, that's an intimidating sight to see.
11:24
SPEAKER_00: It's a very intimidating sight.
11:26
SPEAKER_00: And it's one to where, you know, we've seen those in on your and we see those coming through our place, and you know, they're they're and so I I'm having to have this discussion with literally a 12-year-old trying to explain the difference.
11:38
SPEAKER_00: Okay, these people, it looks like it looks like we don't know, maybe come in here and they want to work.
11:44
SPEAKER_00: Where these people, we don't want to mess with them.
11:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
11:48
SPEAKER_00: Like they are being tracked from one side to the other side with GPS in the backpacks.
11:53
SPEAKER_00: And, you know, we don't want to cross their paths.
11:55
SPEAKER_00: And, you know, if you're out at night, you don't know what position you're gonna be in.
11:58
SPEAKER_00: And and then to think about uh you're traveling through, you know, one day, just it I just remember like it was yesterday, um, you know, driving around.
12:06
SPEAKER_00: I'm driving and I look to the left and I see somebody and I kind of stop and trying to figure, you know, what is this real quick?
12:11
SPEAKER_00: Well, it was too border patrol.
12:12
SPEAKER_00: And so I stopped, said, Hey, you know, they said we're tracking somebody through here.
12:17
SPEAKER_00: And I said, they probably went this way, this is the direction, I have no doubt.
12:20
SPEAKER_00: And so as we're talking, I said, Well, how many years have you been a Border Patrol agent?
12:24
SPEAKER_00: How many years of service?
12:25
SPEAKER_00: And where you know, where are you stationed out of?
12:27
SPEAKER_00: Well, we're here and this and so many years.
12:28
SPEAKER_00: And and I said, Well, thank you for your service.
12:30
SPEAKER_00: You know, my family appreciates you being here, your presence.
12:33
SPEAKER_00: I can't tell you enough how much we appreciate what you're doing.
12:36
SPEAKER_00: So thank you.
12:37
SPEAKER_00: And one of the guys he looked at me and he just said, Well, it's nice to hear that because most people don't say that these days.
12:42
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
12:43
SPEAKER_00: And you know, uh they're trying to keep law and order.
12:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
12:46
SPEAKER_00: And they I promise you they meant that.
12:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
12:48
SPEAKER_00: And that and when we drove off, I told my son, I said, Did you hear what they said?
12:53
SPEAKER_00: Both of them have been a Port of Patrol agent for 13 years.
12:58
SPEAKER_00: And to tell me thank you for saying thank you because they don't hear it.
13:02
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, that all that kind of comes back to originally being in the in law enforcement committee and just kind of hearing the stories of what people have to deal with every day.
13:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, and just simply telling somebody thank you.
13:15
SPEAKER_00: You know, I don't like getting stopped on the side of the road if I happen to speed a little too much, but or to tell somebody thank you for uh the service they're doing because they don't know what they're walking up to every single time.
13:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
13:24
SPEAKER_00: You know?
13:25
SPEAKER_00: Yes, sir.
13:25
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
13:26
SPEAKER_01: Well, you've certainly been a friend of us for a long time.
13:28
SPEAKER_01: Uh I happened to be going by some YouTube videos the other day, and uh I it I guess it was probably twit 10, 12 years ago.
13:35
SPEAKER_01: Uh it says Senator on the video, but uh what is the TNPA interest you or or was it the fact that you were on so many committees and dealing with criminal justice?
13:44
SPEAKER_01: Uh is that kind of how you knew about TMPA and the relationship built?
13:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the relationship built from originally serving on the committee in the House.
13:52
SPEAKER_00: And so obviously y'all have a presence in that committee, built up a relationship uh with some of the members back then and got to know some folks in my district, and so that's where really the strong relationship built, and you know, and it's one that I've I've appreciated over the years, and and obviously the engagement in this role is not to the same level that it is in the legislature because maybe our paths don't cross very often, even though I got one that we've been dealing with very recently that does.
14:18
SPEAKER_00: Um but the fact is, you know, that relationship really built because of people coming testifying, get to know people, and and understanding that they're wanting to make the condition for their members better, yeah, and making sure that their members are able to actually do their job, which is keep our community safe.
14:37
SPEAKER_01: I actually just thought about this.
14:38
SPEAKER_01: You have served on the House, now the Senate, and now you hold a state office.
14:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
14:44
SPEAKER_01: To our members watchers who are watching this YouTube, I messed up a couple weeks ago, and I'm never gonna let it down because I said viewers, viewers, voyagers, viewers, boyers, watchers.
14:55
SPEAKER_01: So to our members who who who who watch our our YouTube channel and listen to our podcast, can you kind of give a an explanation or an overview of really just how significant or how important TMPA's voice is at the Capitol because you've got that unique perspective of work in the House, the Senate, and then now being a state office.
15:13
SPEAKER_00: It's yeah, I I can't I can't underestimate the importance.
15:16
SPEAKER_00: I mean, the fact is of one you know, what and I'll give you one example.
15:21
SPEAKER_00: When I ran for the legislature originally, I will never forget that I went to the local MHMR facility there in Fort Penn County.
15:29
SPEAKER_00: And one of the ladies said, Well, do you know anything about mental health issues?
15:33
SPEAKER_00: And uh in front of me was a piece of paper, blank piece of paper.
15:36
SPEAKER_00: And I said, Well, actually, um, you know, I imagine I'll be touched like everybody is at some point in time.
15:41
SPEAKER_00: But if you hold up this piece of paper, I'm gonna show you.
15:44
SPEAKER_00: I said, This is how much I know about it.
15:46
SPEAKER_00: And she told me that for several years.
15:48
SPEAKER_00: She said, Oh my gosh, it was like I can tell him whatever I want to because we're starting fresh.
15:52
SPEAKER_00: And and and most of us come to this building, as in the Capitol, as a legislator or as a staffer.
15:59
SPEAKER_00: You know, don't underestimate staff relationships because staff does most of the work.
16:03
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they just they're they're they're getting bills drafted or communication or tell the legislator what they need or appointments for for meetings or whatever that may be.
16:11
SPEAKER_00: And so the point is, is most of us come with a blank sheet of paper on other than what we know, you know, and so therefore having a presence here in the Capitol and having those relationships, you can't underestimate how important they are.
16:26
SPEAKER_00: And and and what's amazing, tonight I'm gonna have dinner with some of the new freshmen members.
16:30
SPEAKER_00: And and I was uh telling some of my staff I do that every year.
16:33
SPEAKER_00: Um I try to go have dinner with with the new members, and you just start a relationship.
16:37
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I don't know these folks, they don't know me.
16:39
SPEAKER_00: And you know, you think, oh, well, they're just some freshmen.
16:41
SPEAKER_00: Well, in a few years, they might be the chair of the committee that your members deal with.
16:45
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
16:45
SPEAKER_00: You know, and I tell people all the time, because they ask, they go, well, what is the best way we should be engaged?
16:51
SPEAKER_00: And I said, the first and foremost is the brand new legislator in your district who you think is not important because they're just, you know, they're they're not the speaker, they're not the lieutenant governor, they're not the chair of the committee.
17:01
SPEAKER_00: They will be in a few years.
17:02
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
17:03
SPEAKER_00: And so, you know, they don't have, and I and I and I usually hold up my phone kind of jokingly sometimes.
17:08
SPEAKER_00: I go, you know, when I first started, I had no numbers in here.
17:11
SPEAKER_00: I had no friends in here except, you know, my wife and core.
17:14
SPEAKER_00: Right now, I don't need no more numbers.
17:16
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm joking, but I I just I have a lot of relationships.
17:18
SPEAKER_00: I've got to meet people over the years.
17:20
SPEAKER_00: And so then those people don't have those relationships, you know.
17:23
SPEAKER_00: And if you get to meet somebody one-on-one, it's just amazing the bonds you can form.
17:28
SPEAKER_00: And you because there are times as members of the legislature, you're trying to figure out how do I how do I want to vote on this or what are the questions I should ask.
17:35
SPEAKER_00: And if you don't know, guess what you do?
17:37
SPEAKER_00: You pick up the phone of people that you trust.
17:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
17:40
SPEAKER_02: And and that's one thing when we're out speaking with members is you know, we tell them we have a legal plan.
17:45
SPEAKER_02: So if you shoot somebody, we're gonna help you get an attorney.
17:48
SPEAKER_02: We provide training.
17:49
SPEAKER_02: We have sexy training we provide.
17:51
SPEAKER_02: And the third thing that we do is our legislative efforts.
17:53
SPEAKER_02: And it's not sexy, it's not people, but the relationships that we build are so important because if we know each other and trust each other, even if we disagree next year on an issue, we have a relationship enough that we can navigate through it and build through it because that's Clint and you know, that's Tyler, and that's Glenn, and we can work it out because we've always worked it out.
18:15
SPEAKER_02: But if you don't know each other, or it's surface, or every time we deal with each other, it's just for us to walk in and tell you, by God, you're gonna do this, and if you don't, we're gonna vote you out of office.
18:24
SPEAKER_02: You're never gonna accomplish I mean, it's it's counterproductive completely.
18:27
SPEAKER_00: I think it is, and it it it's about relationship to trust, and what people want to be able to do, as and when I say people, I mean legislators, okay, in in my opinion, um, is I want to know and be able to have a relationship with somebody that I trust in my district.
18:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
18:40
SPEAKER_00: Because those are the people that I represent now, it's a little different from me because I represent the whole state of Texas.
18:44
SPEAKER_00: So everybody's my district.
18:45
SPEAKER_00: But back then, I while I appreciate hearing you, I want to hear from the TPA member in my district because they're on the front line in whatever community or city and and they're the ones that are engaging.
18:56
SPEAKER_00: And so, not to say that it's you know, I want to hear what you, but you want those relationships.
19:01
SPEAKER_00: And so I think that's why it's it's critical to be engaged in the process because I tell people all the time, you know, if if you're not sitting at the table, somebody else is sitting at the table in your place.
19:11
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
19:12
SPEAKER_00: And they may not have the same values and interests that you do.
19:15
SPEAKER_00: And it's important to have that cross-section, it really is important.
19:18
SPEAKER_01: I'm glad we touched on that because people about two weeks ago I was having a conversation with a member and and his perception of our pack was uh it's just an endorsement list.
19:27
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, man, it's so much deeper than that.
19:30
SPEAKER_01: So broader, really, than that.
19:31
SPEAKER_01: I'm glad you touched on that about relationships and you know, we monitor all the bills coming out, what's good for law enforcement, what's not.
19:37
SPEAKER_01: And then you have to realize that regardless of what side of the aisle you're on, we kind of have to come, we have to have an agreement, and you have to have relationships to agree on certain things and disagree on others.
19:46
SPEAKER_00: And you know what I will say, over the years, it's not as though I've been in lockstep with everything that TMPA agreed with.
19:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
19:53
SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's a couple things we disagreed on, and but we continue to have a good relationship as there are things we can agree to disagree on.
20:00
SPEAKER_00: And and there was a couple over the years, you know, we just disagreed, and that's okay.
20:04
SPEAKER_00: But I mean, the fact is most decisions in life are not just one decision, they're a whole totality of decisions.
20:10
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, you agree to disagree on a few and you move on to the next.
20:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
20:13
SPEAKER_02: So our listeners understand everybody kind of knows what a governor does, or everybody has an idea of what they think a state rep does.
20:19
SPEAKER_02: I think a lot of people will be shocked to hear just how involved the Texas state compontler position is.
20:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, real.
20:26
SPEAKER_02: What are your what's your role?
20:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, real real quick from I I like to talk about my constitutional duties because that you know is the highest, most important things that we have to, and then and then whatever state statute, the laws that the legislature passed that are not in the constitution, uh, but state constitution-wise, I one run the state treasury.
20:42
SPEAKER_00: So right now the state budget is an astonishing$126 billion.
20:47
SPEAKER_00: It's just one checkbook, not a big deal.
20:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
20:50
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you have that with you now?
20:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, I do.
20:52
SPEAKER_00: I just didn't bring it today because I knew y'all would want some of it.
20:55
SPEAKER_00: Um it's$14 million payments that we issue on behalf of the state of Texas, the citizens of the state, for their state government to pay all the bills.
21:03
SPEAKER_00: And to put that in perspective, I kind of joke, you know, if I sat at my desk and the only thing I did was sign checks, which we don't, we electronic transfer, okay.
21:10
SPEAKER_00: Um but of the 14 million payments, if I sat at my desk and I just signed checks and I did that 40 hours a week and I didn't take off on Good Friday, Christmas, Thanksgiving, I didn't I didn't take off any days.
21:19
SPEAKER_00: I just worked 40 hours, 52 weeks out of the year.
21:22
SPEAKER_00: I would literally have to sit there and sign 112, 114, 15 payments every 60 seconds, and that's all I did.
21:30
SPEAKER_00: You know, and I put that in size and scope of the of the volume.
21:34
SPEAKER_00: And then we have to make sure all the dollars are spent in accordance where they're supposed to.
21:38
SPEAKER_00: We have to make sure they're all accounted for, the agencies account for.
21:42
SPEAKER_00: So there's there's a lot of counting.
21:43
SPEAKER_00: There's a lot to make sure that the ones and ones add up.
21:46
SPEAKER_00: But then also we uh monitor the state economy.
21:50
SPEAKER_00: So, in other words, uh what's happening in this big ninth largest economy in the entire world.
21:55
SPEAKER_00: And when I got in this role, we were the 12th largest economy, Texas was its own nation to be the 12th.
21:59
SPEAKER_00: We've moved.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: To 11, we've moved to 10, and now we're number nine and knocking on the door, number eight, which is pretty phenomenal.
22:04
SPEAKER_00: And then lastly, this is the one I hedge a little bit about uh because my grandfather was a Baptist preacher, and I'm I heard some of his sermons, how they stoned the tax collector in the Bible.
22:12
SPEAKER_03: I am the tax collector.
22:14
SPEAKER_00: So th those are my three big anchors.
22:16
SPEAKER_00: But but we handle all kinds of things.
22:18
SPEAKER_00: You know, I may I made I made the comment earlier about I have a council that we're the staff for, and we're helping them set up a process to where they can distribute all the opioid dollars and whether that's going to treatment, prevention, law enforcement, and and and the and the committee is figuring out what they want of those big tiers and buckets uh right now as we're trying to stand that stand that process up.
22:37
SPEAKER_00: Broadband.
22:38
SPEAKER_00: You have seven million people in the state of Texas, and we have 30 million, almost 25% of the state's population.
22:43
SPEAKER_00: They may have a cell phone, but they don't actually have strong fixed internet at their home, which is pretty phenomenal.
22:50
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that that that's so so why is that?
22:52
SPEAKER_00: Well, I was given that office last session.
22:54
SPEAKER_00: So I do endangered species research.
22:57
SPEAKER_00: This morning I had somebody out there to do that.
22:59
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, it is just it it's it's unbelievable what they've given us over the years.
23:02
SPEAKER_00: You know, you walk into um to a uh uh convenience store or or or someplace you buy uh tobacco, you look on the and it says, you know, got to be uh a certain age and above 21 and the little fancy signs.
23:16
SPEAKER_00: Well, we put those signs out because we I have a small law enforcement division to where we work with your members out in the field on a wide variety of issues, whether it's fuel, uh people stealing fuel, whether it's tobacco stamps, all these different issues that that we're engaged in.
23:32
SPEAKER_00: So I actually have you know a division of a little over 30 law enforcement officers that are scattered throughout the city of Texas.
23:37
SPEAKER_00: So we have our hands on the pulse of a lot of different things across the state beyond those three constitutional duties.
23:44
SPEAKER_00: It's an interesting job.
23:45
SPEAKER_00: Well, it doesn't it doesn't sound like it's very busy.
23:48
SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, no.
23:49
SPEAKER_00: Sleep in most mornings.
23:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
23:50
SPEAKER_00: You know, it it it's okay.
23:51
SPEAKER_00: It's just it's yeah, it's just a nine to five job.
23:54
SPEAKER_02: Mimosas, you know, yeah, home by three o'clock, golf course.
23:58
SPEAKER_02: I had no idea.
23:58
SPEAKER_02: I thought I knew.
23:59
SPEAKER_02: I asked the question and I thought I knew the answer.
24:02
SPEAKER_00: The breadth of issues.
24:03
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we we could take the whole segment of just the various issues we handle.
24:06
SPEAKER_00: It's it's really interesting.
24:07
SPEAKER_00: I mean, like the the tobacco uh signs that that they're in there.
24:11
SPEAKER_00: I mean, look, you'll see Glenn Hager on it, little bitty, a little bitty in Glenn Hager on the bottom.
24:14
SPEAKER_00: Um, but when the first uh eight years ago, when I got in this role, one of my team members brought in all these posters.
24:21
SPEAKER_00: And I was looking around, I was like, why do I what are we doing with these posters?
24:24
SPEAKER_00: Well, long story short, the legislature got mad at another state agency that had that federal grant that was doing stings of miners buying tobacco.
24:33
SPEAKER_00: They didn't like the tasks they were doing and who they give it to, the controller's office.
24:37
SPEAKER_00: And so my team came in and they wanted me to figure out the new posters, and I said, Yeah, um, that's your job.
24:43
SPEAKER_00: You figure out the posters.
24:44
SPEAKER_00: Um I'm not figuring out posters no more.
24:46
SPEAKER_00: Uh so but it was interesting because I didn't know we did that job.
24:49
SPEAKER_00: I had no idea when I ran for the office that that we play a role in that and have for quite some time.
24:55
SPEAKER_00: So it's interesting because sometimes the legislature looks around, who should we give this to?
25:00
SPEAKER_00: And they go, Yeah, we're not really sure.
25:02
SPEAKER_00: Hager will take it.
25:03
SPEAKER_00: Give it to Mikey.
25:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
25:05
SPEAKER_00: So Hager's usually in the building or talking to members, those relationships.
25:09
SPEAKER_00: Hey, that's a great idea, but give it to somebody else.
25:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
25:14
SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
25:14
SPEAKER_01: I appreciate that.
25:15
SPEAKER_01: So speaking on budgets and speaking on law enforcement, um last session Governor Abbott came out pretty strong against the anti-you know defund the police movement.
25:26
SPEAKER_01: Um do you want to kind of expand upon that?
25:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so last session the legislature, you know, and you look around this country, um, there's a lot of areas to where you have movements to either defund and and and I would imagine, you know, we all know if someone has psychological mental issues, they need a mental health expert.
25:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but the first frontline person who's there is typically because of a domestic violence call is gonna be one of your members.
25:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
25:55
SPEAKER_00: And so, but the fact is the mental health person isn't gonna get called to show up to the door where there's domestic violence.
26:01
SPEAKER_00: Now that's the next phase, you know, and so I I understand part of the point of let's make sure people get real treatment, but we got to give y'all the tools because your members are gonna be the ones that first show up.
26:11
SPEAKER_00: And and and we need that safety.
26:12
SPEAKER_00: But so you see this around the country, and you know, unfortunately, we have a lot of very serious issues, and in this state, the line has been drawn in the sand that we're not gonna defund the police.
26:23
SPEAKER_00: We are gonna fund law enforcement in the state of Texas because our citizens, that's one of the primary responsibilities, is to have those duties.
26:30
SPEAKER_00: And so the legislature last session figured, okay, if a county or a city essentially from one budget to the next defunds the police, lowers the lowers the uh funding, at least from a county perspective, you can file a complaint with the governor, then the governor looks at it, they think there's something valid, and they send it to my office, and then my office makes the final determination.
26:52
SPEAKER_00: And this came up last year with the budgeting process in Harris County.
26:56
SPEAKER_00: Now it's a little complicated because they were moving from a 12-month budget to a seven because they were realigning part of the year when they start their budget.
27:03
SPEAKER_00: But I mean, math doesn't have to be complex.
27:06
SPEAKER_00: Right.
27:06
SPEAKER_00: You know, and they looked at it as a convoluted process to where, well, we're gonna do pay periods and we're gonna kick one out and we're gonna put you in this category and this category, and we just said, okay, well, seven months divide it by seven, multiply it times twelve, I don't know, you can convert it to twelve pretty quick.
27:20
SPEAKER_00: It's not that hard.
27:22
SPEAKER_00: Real simple.
27:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, why make it complex?
27:24
SPEAKER_00: Make it simple.
27:24
SPEAKER_00: And so the long short of it is when my authority comes in, is when they have a proposed budget, which can change, then it is adopted and then it is implemented.
27:36
SPEAKER_00: This is the new implemented budget.
27:38
SPEAKER_00: And so when it's being proposed, I felt like it was imperative that we tell the county, hey, according to our math, real simple, you are defunding the constable's offices, as with the complaint that was to the governor that got sent to me.
27:51
SPEAKER_00: And so anyway, long story short, um, we agreed after they sued us, yes, which I said all along.
27:57
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I I'm I'm giving you notice because I think I should not to wait until you implement it.
28:01
SPEAKER_00: Well, they've implemented it as a result.
28:04
SPEAKER_00: We've had a new complaint sent to us, and we've determined, no, they have still defunded the police, the constable's office.
28:11
SPEAKER_00: This one particular constable's office that's complained, it's over$2 million.
28:15
SPEAKER_00: And in fact, they cannot increase their tax rate as the law requires there's new, no, no new tax rate increase.
28:23
SPEAKER_00: It has to stay at the current tax rate unless they properly fund.
28:27
SPEAKER_00: Now, I've always said I think the best way to resolve this is a local solution.
28:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
28:31
SPEAKER_00: Have dialogue between locals' office, the county budget, and just resolve the issue.
28:37
SPEAKER_00: It should be a local issue resolved.
28:38
SPEAKER_00: And that's what I encouraged months ago.
28:40
SPEAKER_00: And now that we're implemented the budget and they're partway through the budget, and we got another complaint to officially make a determination, we made a ruling that yes, they have, and I think they need to be corrected.
28:50
SPEAKER_00: And the citizens in that community, they want the law enforcement present.
28:53
SPEAKER_01: That's what they want.
28:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, especially Harris County.
28:55
SPEAKER_01: Um, it's just it's gotten out of hand.
28:57
SPEAKER_01: Gotten out of hand.
28:58
SPEAKER_01: And there's not there's not a whole lot of leadership.
29:00
SPEAKER_01: Well, let me back up.
29:03
SPEAKER_01: The leadership within Harrison County at the Commissioner's Court, which would be Judge Hidargo, um, has made kind of a history of seeming to be anti-law enforcement.
29:13
SPEAKER_01: And so now you tell her, hey, or you tell her in the commissioner's court that you guys are in violation.
29:18
SPEAKER_01: If you move forward with this, it's illegal.
29:21
SPEAKER_01: And yet they continue to do it.
29:23
SPEAKER_00: Well, which was stunning to me because I tried.
29:26
SPEAKER_00: I tried really hard.
29:27
SPEAKER_00: Let's figure out what the problem is and let's solve it.
29:30
SPEAKER_00: And you know, I was I was really disappointed, and I knew this was probably going to be the process.
29:33
SPEAKER_00: I tried not to get play the media game and get out in the media and oh, you're doing this.
29:39
SPEAKER_00: I just want it solved.
29:40
SPEAKER_00: I mean, and that's what the citizens want.
29:42
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
29:42
SPEAKER_00: They just want it solved.
29:43
SPEAKER_00: They don't want, oh, is Glenn saying rhetoric and Clint and Tyler and whose rhetoric's better?
29:49
SPEAKER_00: I mean, people get tired of that crap.
29:50
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they're they're really tired of this social media headline stuff when they just want the work done, man.
29:56
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
29:57
SPEAKER_00: That's what they want.
29:58
SPEAKER_00: That's what they elected you to do.
29:59
SPEAKER_00: That's what they think, that's what you should do.
30:01
SPEAKER_00: And so that was my frustration because I felt like, you know, very seriously, the county was playing games media-wise to try to tell the story.
30:09
SPEAKER_00: Oh, no, no, we have funded.
30:10
SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, if you pretend your math adds up, which it doesn't with this convoluted process, there's no way.
30:16
SPEAKER_00: The math is simple.
30:18
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I don't know about you, but one plus one is two.
30:20
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I may have grew up on a family farm, but I know that much.
30:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
30:24
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's not four.
30:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
30:26
SPEAKER_00: Come on, man.
30:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
30:28
SPEAKER_02: Well, and and the citizens will appreciate you.
30:31
SPEAKER_02: Cause the easy thing would be to stay out of it and just say it's a local issue.
30:34
SPEAKER_02: I'm not going to be, I'm not going to mess with that.
30:35
SPEAKER_02: That's an easy thing to do.
30:36
SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
30:37
SPEAKER_02: To to take care of the citizens and and ensure they're funded and and people want police service.
30:43
SPEAKER_02: And we saw the funding that experiment failed, and people in Minneapolis are realizing the failed experiment, Seattle's realizing.
30:50
SPEAKER_02: Uh so we're appreciative that you are not going to sit on silence.
30:54
SPEAKER_00: Well, it's interesting because a lot of these cities that have gone down that path, they have started to backtrack because the citizens have said, Whoa, whoa, whoa.
31:05
SPEAKER_00: When you have the lawlessness or you have your you know, law enforcement members are able to arrest somebody, charge them, have the documentation, but then the district attorney doesn't want to take the case and go to the next level, well then the person's gonna get back out.
31:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, and and and and I understand we want to make sure our prisons, our jails have those that are really tough offenders, but if you set a limit at X amount and below, well, guess what?
31:33
SPEAKER_00: If it's$500, they're gonna they're they're they're smart, they're gonna go steal$490 worth and then go steal another$490 and another$490.
31:40
SPEAKER_00: Well, I don't know about you, but that's almost$1,500 in three times.
31:43
SPEAKER_00: It's it's a simple way to get around it.
31:45
SPEAKER_00: And and so those things, I I'm glad that citizens in other states and these some of these jurisdictions are realizing, whoa, we got a real problem.
31:53
SPEAKER_00: I mean, when you have Walgreens, CVS, these you know, box stores, they're leaving communities because they just have, you know, the the run-in and grab and bag and go out the door, those are real problems.
32:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
32:07
SPEAKER_00: Citizens can't actually get their services because of the lawlessness.
32:10
SPEAKER_00: And that's just unacceptable.
32:11
SPEAKER_01: Thankfully it's not it's not as prevalent in Texas at all.
32:14
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
32:14
SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, but we need to make sure it stays that way.
32:17
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
32:18
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
32:18
SPEAKER_00: That's why people move here because for an economic opportunity.
32:21
SPEAKER_00: But when their situations like that exist, they're not going to be in this state.
32:26
SPEAKER_00: No.
32:26
SPEAKER_00: We're going to be those other states.
32:28
SPEAKER_00: And that's why we have to draw a line in the sand and say, no, this is unacceptable, and we're not going to go down that path.
32:33
SPEAKER_02: Well, and some of the rhetoric, some of the theory and the rhetoric sounds really good until it's implemented.
32:37
SPEAKER_02: The everything theft under 750 is acceptable.
32:43
SPEAKER_02: Well, I I've I'm I've got a ranch and in farming background like you.
32:47
SPEAKER_02: It says it's under 750 as long as it's necessary items.
32:51
SPEAKER_02: Well, there's a whole lot of stuff at Tractor Supply and Bass Pro Shop that are necessary.
32:54
SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's up to$740 as long as I'm free and clear, it doesn't make any sense.
33:00
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
33:00
SPEAKER_02: That makes no sense.
33:01
SPEAKER_00: And then, you know, as a as a as a catch tagline, the first piece, you go, oh, well, maybe that makes sense.
33:06
SPEAKER_00: Well, then you got to peel the next layer of the onion back.
33:08
SPEAKER_00: And you peel the next layer and you go, ooh, there's a lot of problems with this.
33:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:11
SPEAKER_00: Right.
33:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
33:12
SPEAKER_01: Yes, sir.
33:12
SPEAKER_01: Well, man, I I can't thank you enough for coming on.
33:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's good to be with you with us.
33:16
SPEAKER_01: You are a very, very, very important man.
33:18
SPEAKER_01: Uh, and and for you to take time out of your out of your busy schedule.
33:21
SPEAKER_00: Let me let me just say, I've always appreciated the relationship, the friendship.
33:24
SPEAKER_00: You know, fact is there's times where, like I said, we've agreed on a lot.
33:27
SPEAKER_00: A couple times we disagree, but you know what?
33:29
SPEAKER_00: We continue to have dialogue, and I appreciate y'all's presence and what you do in the state of Texas.
33:33
SPEAKER_00: Rightly appreciate it, ma'am.
33:34
SPEAKER_02: Well, and I think that's important.
33:35
SPEAKER_02: You know, you spouse may disagree, but it doesn't mean you get a divorce.
33:39
SPEAKER_02: You you you shake hands and keep on moving on down the road and figure out how to get through this.
33:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we always want to maintain the the professional relationships and the friendships and the network, and uh you taking your time out to come down this morning is is awesome.
33:51
SPEAKER_02: Good to be with you all again.
33:52
SPEAKER_01: Thanks.
33:53
SPEAKER_01: You think he's worthy of the rapid fire questions that we hit the other?
33:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we can do that.
33:59
SPEAKER_02: I like that.
34:00
SPEAKER_02: All right.
34:00
SPEAKER_02: Fire away.
34:02
SPEAKER_02: So so we ask every guest rapid fire three questions.
34:07
SPEAKER_02: Favorite cop movie or line from a cop movie?
34:11
SPEAKER_02: Usually it's best police vehicle, so any vehicle that you think is the best vehicle.
34:16
SPEAKER_02: I've got faith in you on this one.
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SPEAKER_02: And best drink or adult refreshment when you relax?
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SPEAKER_00: Man, okay, the best drink is easy.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh that's just uh bourbon neat.
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SPEAKER_00: So uh I enjoy I enjoy bourbon.
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SPEAKER_00: I drink makers a lot, but uh I really enjoy whole wide variety.
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SPEAKER_00: I tell you, Jefferson's uh on the ocean.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that one's hard to beat.
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SPEAKER_00: That's hard to beat.
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SPEAKER_00: Um that that is the bomb.
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SPEAKER_00: Um fleece car, oh man, you know, um I love a motorcycle.
34:45
SPEAKER_00: I don't ride a motorcycle anymore.
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SPEAKER_00: Um I did when I was in college, and I promised my grandparents I'd sell it when uh when I when I got out of college because I couldn't hardly get there, you know, and uh and I did.
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SPEAKER_00: And I was just telling the kids the other day, I said, man, don't ride a motorcycle.
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SPEAKER_00: But it's pretty cool.
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SPEAKER_00: But I don't know, you know, I like the classics.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, if you you look back at uh some of the old chip movies, the old 1970s or Starskin Hutch, you know, those those kind of those are kind of cool, okay?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the the classics.
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SPEAKER_00: And then the line, man, there's too many of them.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, they're like all flowing through my head.
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SPEAKER_00: I can't pick one.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh there's a whole bunch of them.
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SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of good movies out there.
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SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, this about wraps it up, dude.
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SPEAKER_01: But you got anything else?
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SPEAKER_01: Nope.
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