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- 0:00> Announcer>On the next episode of Sips, Suds and Smokes.
- 0:04> Good ol’ Boy Barker>We do these once a year, folks. And this is the PCA episode.
- 0:07> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Premier Cigar Association.
- 0:11> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Really, for me, PCA is a chance to get back in the community and dig deeper and develop these relationships more.
- 0:19> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin industry and just seeing the sincerity behind what they're doing. There's, uh, an earnestness about what they do that they, and they all get along for the most part. It's awesome to see that.
- 0:31> Bob>It was one of the best cigar focused weekends of my life.
- 0:35> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Yeah.
- 0:36> Bob>Came with the right mindset. Met really fun people.
- 0:40> Bob>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin about the industry and what's happening in the industry. So I just kind of feel like more part of. But, um, overall it's a great experience. A lot of fun. They really know how to throw a party.
- 0:53> Announcer>We'll be right back after this break. Brought to you almost live from the, uh, dude in the basement studios.
- 1:21> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Why?
- 1:22> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin
- 1:24> Announcer>It sips, suds and smokes with your smoke and host the good old boys. Hey man, got a light? It's time for smokes.
- 1:59> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Hey, guys. Welcome to this smokes episode where everything good in life is worth discussing. Today we got a bunch of friendly faces. And one on zoom in here today. But first we got good old boy Mike on the ones and twos, making sure we have all those beautiful sound effects that you people love. Next to him we got good old boy Justin zooming in from the beach. What's up?
- 2:26> Bob>Pleasure to be here as always.
- 2:28> Good ol’ Boy Barker>And then good old boy Roberts back.
- 2:30> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Yeah, and good old boy Rich.
- 2:33> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin rich.
- 2:36> Good ol’ Boy Barker>That's right. And then I'm the hostess with the mostest, your bearded lady of this three ring circus. Good old boy Barger. What's up, folks?
- 2:43Listen, we're the best thing on at 2: 00am um, right before competitive whispering with Samuel L.
- 2:48Listen, we're the best thing on at 2: Jackson and silent yoga with Gilbert Godfrey.
- 2:53Listen, we're the best thing on at 2: >> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin
- 2:54> Good ol’ Boy Barker>As you know, and I hope you know, smoke segments are all about cigars and while anything that's smoked. Uh, but this episode is going to be different. We do these once a year, folks. And this is the PCA episode.
- 3:05> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Premier Cigar Association.
- 3:08> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin And since the PCA episode, we're gonna skip the what's in the box today because we got a lot to go over but we'll touch on a few favorite smokes we had while we were there, along with our experiences of being there. We got to meet a lot of great people and had some really good cigar talks. But if you're a cigar newbie, fret not. We got you covered on the 100. Uh, and one episode.
- 3:28> Good ol’ Boy Barker>You can go back and decode all this stuff. Just go to sip suds and smokes.com and check us out. That episode should pop right up today. Good old boy Justin gets the honors of going over the ratings of what we're going to be touching on today. So, Justin, what do you got?
- 3:44> Bob>We got one ring. This sucked before it was even lit. Two rings. At least I lit it. Three rings. I would smoke this again. Four rings. How much you want for him?
- 4:18> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Huh? Huh? Magnificent.
- 4:27> Bob>Five rings. Where are they? I need a whole box.
- 4:33> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Good creepy voice from the corner of Justin over there. All right, well, let's talk awards. We did something really cool and good. Uh, old boy Robert helped us out with 3D printing some awards and getting some lighters laser engraved for folks.
- 4:47> Good ol’ Boy Barker>But, man, what do you guys think about those? How did that go over?
- 4:51> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin we expected, for sure. They loved them.
- 4:56> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Yeah.
- 4:57> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin them, like, proudly displayed. Like, they really kind of took it serious.
- 5:03> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Yeah, it was really cool. Justin, what do you think?
- 5:06> Bob>We went a whole level above all the other media there and got some real engagement from these amazing producers. That's what I think.
- 5:14> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Yeah, we got a lot of good feedback on it as well.
- 5:17> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Like, all of the manufacturers that got brands, they were just humbled, you know, and it was really interesting because it takes a lot to humble a manufacturer sometimes.
- 5:27> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin But it's just this one little thing that was like, hey, you made our top of best of season 13. I believe it was best of season 13. Yeah. And so our placard said best of season 13. And there was only one person that got the gold, and that was Black Work Studios, Right?
- 5:44> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin See the holy Grail. That's right. So now, if you're a manufacturer and you're listening, you better step it up, because there's another golden coming out this year. 2026 PCA will be highly coveted. Highly coveted award.
- 5:58> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Uh, but what do you guys think? Do you guys have a lot of fun? First of all, PCA was in New Orleans this year, and it was a lot of.
- 6:15> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin were great.
- 6:18> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Lots of Food. We got Dragos again.
- 6:21> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin those. Those, uh, charbroiled oysters. I dream about those.
- 6:27> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin landed was beelined it to Dragos.
- 6:31> Good ol’ Boy Barker>I'm going to be sad that there's not a Drago in New Orleans or in Vegas this next year.
- 6:35> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin You know, if there's one there, though, we got to go and get them.
- 6:38> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin But we're big foodies here, too, so we like to go and eat all the good food and hang out with people before the show. Our hotel this time was not very far from the place. It was all walkable. Thanks, Rich.
- 6:50> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin That's right. No drunk people in the lobby.
- 6:54> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin There were rats in the courtyard, and they were, like, the size of cats. Like, you be careful.
- 7:00> Good ol’ Boy Barker>They'll drag your purse off. Justin, did you.
- 7:02> Bob>What were they smoking?
- 7:04> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Uh, what the rats were smoking.
- 7:06> Bob>Yeah.
- 7:06> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Uh, the. Probably the dirty rat from League of Provados. There you go. Uh, you know, probably.
- 7:11> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin fire pit. Um, we got to hang out with a bunch of people we normally don't get to hang out with, smoking cigars.
- 7:19> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Yeah.
- 7:19> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin that took over the next.
- 7:23> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Yeah. But we made it work in the little pavilion.
- 7:26> Good ol’ Boy Barker>But we did get to meet some other medias in our hotel. Uh, cigar pulpit. Shout out to Nick out there. We had a good time talking with him. And.
- 7:36> Good ol’ Boy Barker>And, uh, the other guys was Danny.
- 7:38> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Danny and Sean.
- 7:40> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin And, uh. Uh, what was the other. What was the other guy? The podcast with the. With the blind guy?
- 7:46> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Sean.
- 7:48> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin That's gonna be really bad.
- 7:50> Good ol’ Boy Barker>I think it's Cigar Hustle. No. Is that Mike Stepan Cabbage? That's his, but, yeah. Anyway, um, I'll.
- 7:57> Good ol’ Boy Barker>We'll find out what his is, and we'll put it in the show notes for you guys. But, yeah, that dude was awesome. Yes. That was a lot of fun. A lot of fun. And then we got to hang out with Bob Finley from Bob the Cigar Guy.
- 8:08> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin And if you guys don't know much about him, you need to go give him a listen and follow, too.
- 8:12> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Yeah, and the first lady of cigars, his wife.
- 8:15> Good ol’ Boy Barker>She's salt of the earth, man. They are such good people.
- 8:18> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin But that leads me to the community, so, really, for me, PCA is a chance to get back in the community and dig deeper and develop these relationships more. So what do you guys think that we did? How did we do on that this year?
- 8:35> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin know, we're, you know, actually seeing people, um, for the third and fourth time. So we were known a little bit more. We knew them getting recognized more, um, and then, um, you know, so that. That made a big difference for me. Um, most everybody's open and welcome, um, talkative, love to hear stories and. Yeah, all that.
- 9:02> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Robert?
- 9:03> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin there was a recognition that what this provides is necessary. Like, they all, like several admitted that we need the podcasters out there to actually get our, you know, what we're doing out there to the public.
- 9:18> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Yeah, I know the last couple years, it's been a.
- 9:24> Good ol’ Boy Barker>It's been kind of a. They've been trying to push media out, it seems, you know, and be more.
- 9:29> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin mentality. Uh, old guards, not so used to it.
- 9:35> Good ol’ Boy Barker>That's fine. Um, a lot of. A lot of the new guys, you know, they embrace the podcasters and bloggers and all of that. So, you know, in the new media, I mean, it's. It's hard for some of the older companies to. To get on board with the media. You know, they're having to hire these young kids to do their media for them, their social media and whatnot.
- 9:55> Good ol’ Boy Barker>I really hate the. I don't hate the brands, but I hate when the brands are like, we don't need you.
- 10:01> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Our product sells itself. I think that sucks. And there's a lot of manufacturers out there that, that, um, just. They think that because we're media, like, we're beneath them. Yeah.
- 10:19> Announcer>Banned once again.
- 10:20> Good ol’ Boy Barker>And so they won't even give us the time of day.
- 10:23> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin going on. We definitely ran into a couple of that.
- 10:27> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Right, Justin, what do you think?
- 10:29> Bob>Well, they won't let us in Alabama, but they let us in pca. And this year, instead of being a stranger in a strange land, it was more like coming home.
- 10:39> Bob>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin
- 10:39> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Yeah, it was definitely like a homecoming this year. Kind of made it feel. Made it feel a little better. But, you know, there's a lot of things we can talk about with pca. We could go on and on and on, but we'll be right back after this break.
- 11:08> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Welcome back from these Advertisements that you need to buy. We are talking all things PCA. 20, 25, 6, 6, 20, 26. Uh, why do I keep saying that? I keep doing that. Yeah. The year just escapes me because years are flying by. Right. What'd you say? The older you get, the less years matter, I guess.
- 11:30> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin That's right. Um, but anyway, we were just talking about, you know, the culture and the, um, all the things with pca. I want to give a big shout out to Todd and the, and the board at pca. Thank you for letting us come again this year. We really look forward to covering these. These are the highlight of our years. To go see and just be a part of the culture and the community. Really means a lot to us. So thank you for doing that. Um, let's talk about one of the cigars. All right. Since this is a cigar show, uh, we're going to talk about the Cao Cao. There I go. You can't read today.
- 12:05> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin I might be on point with my timing, but my reading sucks.
- 12:08> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin heads.
- 12:10> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Yeah, crown heads.
- 12:11> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin always given us something new and exciting. And this year was no different. They gave us the moonflower.
- 12:20> Good ol’ Boy Barker>That's right.
- 12:21> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin night. This cigar is meant to be experienced slowly. Something a little more refined, a little more introspective. Moonflower opens with a. With smooth layers of espresso, dark chocolate and roasted nuts. As it develops, you start to pick up baking spices, black pepper, and subtle sweetness that balances everything out. This is a medium to full bodied cigar that feels polished, balanced, and just a little bit mysterious. Exactly what you'd expect from something called moonflower.
- 12:55> Good ol’ Boy Barker>So that's like the exact opposite of Robert's love life, right?
- 12:58> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Yes.
- 13:01> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Uh, the wrapper is, uh, corojo binder, esteli and yelapa, filler, estali, yelapa and congo.
- 13:15> Bob>Great.
- 13:15> Bob>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin
- 13:16> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Yeah. Yeah, I smoked it. I. I smoked two or three of them.
- 13:20> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Well, I got some before the PC, so.
- 13:23> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin year they kind of gave me, gave us something new.
- 13:29> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Surprised me, uh, with the Karatoba and the Broadway. And the Broadway. And this year with the moonflower, I was.
- 13:36> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Now the Koba was the Oz family cigars.
- 13:38> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin So. But yeah, uh, you know. You know, it's potato, potato, Right.
- 13:43> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Yeah, same roof, same brand, same, same house. So forgive us, Robert, what do you think?
- 13:51> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin realized. My point being, we always want to got the people to bring us new stuff and try new stuff, but we kind of like, always think about the previous thing that they did for us.
- 14:03> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Yeah.
- 14:04> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin first one, I didn't enjoy it because I was comparing it to something else.
- 14:09> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Uh, yeah.
- 14:10> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin that. He goes, all right, think of this as a completely different cigar. Smoke it and just let it be its own thing, just like it. And I tell you what, um, it was like a smoking a completely different cigar. I enjoyed it so much after that, I was kind of grateful to John to take that avenue with me. But, yeah, it's good. So always, always try something twice anyway,
- 14:33> Bob>Justin, I always say if you don't try it twice, you never tried it at all.
- 14:40> Good ol’ Boy Barker>That's right. That's right. It's the same thing. I told myself, you get a chance to smoke it.
- 14:45> Bob>I did not.
- 14:46> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Okay, that's all right. You probably got one in your pack.
- 14:49> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Yeah, it was one that didn't have a label. And it just says it on the little sticker on the, um, bottom.
- 14:55> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Yeah, dig it out for sure. Now, we actually reviewed this cigar, or half of us talked about it on the podcast. This Crown Heads podcast. We did that released recently. Yeah, didn't we mentioned it?
- 15:11> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Yeah, okay. I guess I got to smoke or mo. That was the Americana. Uh, yeah, yeah, that. That was what we were talking about, but that was Oz family. So let's give it a rating, guys. Yeah, we're going fives with it.
- 15:30> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Yeah, you will definitely enjoy that. Um, as far as boots go, guys, what was your favorite booth?
- 15:39> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin pretty much the same as they have been in the years past, which I understand. I mean, they spend hundreds of thousands of dollars, some of these guys, on the booth, so, you know, it's not something you can expect them to change up every year. But, um, I did notice that some of them went a little bit more sales friendly than sit around and smoke cigars, even though there's some of those Kind of lounge type booths.
- 16:06> Good ol’ Boy Barker>There were less couches to sit on.
- 16:07> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin But unless, uh, you're at Rocky Patel.
- 16:11> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin thought Mayflower booth was interesting because it was sort of throwback to, uh, old, you know, ship.
- 16:22> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Yeah, the Mayflower. It was a timbers, a boiled down version of the big one from last year.
- 16:27> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Um.
- 16:31> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Yeah. So interesting not to be nautical on you or nothing, but. No, uh, you know, I've been on a boat. I'm pretty experienced.
- 16:39> Bob>Is that what she said?
- 16:40> Bob>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin
- 16:42> Good ol’ Boy Barker>That's right,>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Uh, you know what I was excited to see and we're going to talk about that. Just a second. Um, is the Natural Cigar Company.
- 16:56> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin I love them. I love what they're doing. Not in their niche market. I understand that because not everyone likes their flavor profile. But they released their third harvest at pca.
- 17:09> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin this year and guess what it was. Mhm. Guess what it was. It was a Lancero.
- 17:17> Bob>Ah, the one you can't hide behind.
- 17:21> Good ol’ Boy Barker>That's right. Hey, what do you mean by that? You calling me fat? That, ah, Lancero is, uh, I have not smoked it yet. It's in my humidor. I'm letting it acclimate, but I'm um. Man, if you make a Lancero, I'm smoking it for sure.
- 17:37> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin That's right. That's right. We're not, we're not gonna. Obviously none of us have smoked it yet, so we're not going to give it a rating. But I want to talk a little bit about it. It says, uh, natural cigars is built around growing tobacco in a place most people said it wasn't possible. High and in the cold. Now we do have a full episode about natural cigars that you can go back and listen to in our back catalog. But they grow, uh, in the rainy mountains of the Dominican Republic at 4,500ft in elevation on the side of hills. And they, they make greenhouses on the sides of these hills. Tobacco grows two to three times longer and it cures for months and ferments up to a year and a half. The slow process is designed to create natural sugars, essential oils and aromas in a way found nowhere else. The result is they describe it as a cigar with a different taste, intense aroma, distinct and unique character at its core. Third Harvest is about patience, altitude, and letting nature dictate the outcome not rushing the process and not blending away its origins. So we talk about packaging sometimes on these shows and how packaging matters now. Uh, you guys saw the packaging on that box?
- 18:48> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin What did you think?
- 18:50> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin consistent now. Let's not. I know we haven't smoked that one, but did you smoke the other one that they. The new one?
- 18:58> Good ol’ Boy Barker>A little like coffin nail style.
- 19:00> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Cuz that was another one they were releasing there, right? Yeah, yeah. The name escapes me. I didn't look it up.
- 19:09> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin asking them for more, so.
- 19:12> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Yeah, he kept giving them to you too.
- 19:15> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Guys, be on the lookout for that cigar. Um, really good family company that's out there and just what he's doing, you know, Jacob E. Frock, what he's doing out there is just fantastic. And he's also invited us out. So if we want to come out, we can probably go out there and do some live episodes out there. So that'll be fun.
- 19:37> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Yeah. But, you know, all in good fun. We don't have to rate everything. But we'll be right back after this. Guys, buy whatever the advertisement says because that keeps us in business.
- 19:54> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin That's right. She won't love you without it. But listen, I want to make a change. Um, I keep saying Natura cigars, that was their branding when they first released their cigar lines. They've actually recently changed to Altura cigars. So. Altuara Cigars. Altura cigars. So sorry, Jacob, for ruining that part there. But guys, go listen to the other episodes that we did with their cigars.
- 20:20> Good ol’ Boy Barker>And they're a lot of fun. Now. I had a. Smoked a cigar that was a religious experience at, uh, this pca, and it was a Marifel cigar. And it's the Ernest master blend Lancero, seven and a half by 40. And if I could speak with. With our creator, whatever or whomever it may be, since we don't take stances on those things. Um. I'm kidding. We don't take stance on anything. Um, I would want that in heaven. Like that cigar from lighting. And he sat there for a good 15, 20 minutes and just talked to us about the cigar family.
- 21:15> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Yeah.
- 21:16> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin What was his name?
- 21:22> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Um, Jeremiah Marifel.
- 21:24> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin interview. And then, man, he. We turned off the cameras and he just started getting passionate about, ah, what he believes and how. What he thought about cigars. And he pulled this thing out of, like. I don't know, it was like a safe almost of. And this cigar came out, and he only gave us one, but he. He lit it for us and he was talking about it. And we ended up actually passing it around until, um, Barger took it and ran off.
- 21:54> Good ol’ Boy Barker>I don't run off with things, but maybe I did this one.
- 22:00> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin mouth.
- 22:03> Good ol’ Boy Barker>We interrupt this program to annoy you>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin That's right. Well, go ahead.
- 22:11> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin it was darn good. That thing looked good.
- 22:17> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Okay. I love it. Keep going.
- 22:25> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin mean, it just. The draw, the retro. Everything about it was so smooth, but all the flavor was there. You didn't lose anything. It just. It. And I feel like that's how tobacco is supposed to taste. I was like, in the motherland of tobacco.
- 22:41> Good ol’ Boy Barker>So we. We got this interview. Justin, you weren't there for this interview. It was. You had already left to catch your flight, uh, when we got this interview. So. Apologies.
- 22:51> Bob>Spirit left.
- 22:52> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Yeah, apologies. Um.
- 22:55> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Ah.
- 22:56> Bob>I made it there. I made it home. I was thrilled.
- 22:58> Good ol’ Boy Barker>That's right.
- 22:58> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin
- 22:59> Bob>I didn't care if I made it home. I could still be there.
- 23:01> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Yeah, that's right.
- 23:02> Bob>I made it there.
- 23:04> Good ol’ Boy Barker>So we. What I understand about Marifale Cigars and what Jeremiah was very passionately talking to us about is his family, 400 years ago, got into the cigar industry.
- 23:16> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Tobacco import, export. Right. And then he said that his, uh, grandfather signed one of the biggest deals with Che Guevar in Cuba. The biggest purchase. They purchased 100% of the Cuban tobacco that year. Uh, uh. I mean, he got pictures to prove all of this stuff was in there. The booth is like. This is a picture of this.
- 23:38> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin the rest of the world.
- 23:41> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Yep.
- 23:42> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin I was getting there, but you took the words out of my mouth. Thanks, thanks.
- 23:48> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin No, no, seriously, thanks. Because, I mean, I'll ramble on, but, like, they got.
- 23:53> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin So much to do with the history of tobacco. We got introduced to Jeremiah from Kevin Newman from Artistic Cigars. So that's where they buy their Cameroon tobacco from. That's where almost, I would say 75% or more of the tobacco industry buys their Cameroon tobacco from the Marifale family.
- 24:14> Good ol’ Boy Barker>And so they're based in Belgium. Uh, their. Their offices are based in Belgium, but they have farms and everything in, you know, Africa. So in Cameroon and other regions. But it's a big deal.
- 24:26> Good ol’ Boy Barker>And like, to hear somebody that's passionate about cigars, and in his words, he's like, to hell with everything else. Just look at this. This is what happens from the earth.
- 24:36> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin they let the tobacco cure, like, four times longer than anybody. And he said that's a problem in today's industry is that they don't. A lot of the growers and, uh, rollers, they don't let their tobacco age long enough because they want to get it out. And when you let it age, it really changes the complexity, the taste, the, uh, everything about the tobacco.
- 25:01> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Because it takes the ammonia out of it.
- 25:04> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Yeah, you know, the ammonia out of it. And other things that, you know, obviously they don't use pesticides or anything like that on their tobaccos, but it takes all the natural oils that turned into this ammonias and the water and the way they do it, it just strips all of that away.
- 25:19> Good ol’ Boy Barker>So you're just left with a pure product. Right.
- 25:21> Good ol’ Boy Barker>You know, and Cameroon is a real thin leaf as well, so it's really hard to work with. But this cigar, man, if. If we had a number 10 rating, like, this cigar would be a number 10. And I mean, I. You guys are going to put up your hands at number five. I know.
- 25:37> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin So we're gonna give it a five.
- 25:38> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin But if there was a 10, this would be it.
- 25:43> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin the family pictures and the history that he introduced with his family.
- 25:49> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Right.
- 25:49> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin And it was a small booth.
- 25:52> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin It was no bigger than this room that we're sitting.
- 25:55> Bob>The size of the booth, it's the motion of the ocean.
- 25:57> Good ol’ Boy Barker>That's right. That's right. Spoken like a true man. That's right.
- 26:03> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin A Floridian.
- 26:06> Bob>A man with excuses.
- 26:07> Good ol’ Boy Barker>That's right. So, uh, let's talk for a second.
- 26:10> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Robert is going to tell us about the apostate.
- 26:14> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Zara Helma, I think is what it's called.
- 26:16> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Zara Hemla. Yeah. But, you know, we had a chance to hang out with him.
- 26:20> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin They were in our hotel. So Brandon from Apostate and what, Kendrick? Is that right? Yeah. And so, man, just salt of the earth, guys. If you're in Utah, go check out Kendrick's cigar shop. So that sounds like a lot of fun. And I didn't have any idea that he used to be a, uh, dueling pianist.
- 26:38> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin And so he's like, yeah, there's a piano back there. And I was like, what do you have a piano back for? And he was like, oh, I used to, you know, before I got into cigars, I was a pianist.
- 26:47> Good ol’ Boy Barker>And it's like, oh, that's cool. Tell me more. And so, but. But yeah, so tell us a little bit about the. About this Tsar Hemla.
- 26:55> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin ancient, once mighty city now in ruin. A symbol of history, legacy, and rediscovery. Apostate, ah, describes a cigar as something that is meant to become the cornerstone of your cigar temple. A true indulgence crafted from tobacco, spanning from both new and old world, coming together in one unified blend. The wrapper is Pennsylvania broadleaf. The binder is Cameroon, and fillers are, uh, doctor and Mexican.
- 27:27> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Okay, so what'd you think about it?
- 27:30> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin it's, um, it was a lot milder than I expected because, like, when you look at the wrapper, it looks a lot more. It's a lot darker than you think it's gonna be, but it smokes like a really nice, like, medium body cigar. It's very enjoyable.
- 27:45> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Okay, now we've smoked quite a bit from Apostate cigars before, so this is, this is a staple. This is a great cigar. And what I like about what Brandon does is he's got one product, uh, he's got one size for each product. Is that right? So, yeah, so one size for each product. And then he just came out with these little nail. Little coffin nail, coffin nail looking.
- 28:08> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Yeah. And they. But they don't take up that much shelf space. And that's what he was saying is like, these don't take up as much shelf space as when you bring other brands in, which encourages shop owners to pick up these boutique brands because you have a set amount. That's it. And so I think that's another, you know, branding 101 is don't have so many options that people can't choose.
- 28:33> Bob>Don't underestimate the cigarillos.
- 28:35> Bob>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin amazing. And he's talking about that being in a box of 100.
- 28:40> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Oh, yeah.
- 28:41> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Wow.
- 28:44> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Yeah. And those are just what they're single leaf, the roll the cigarillos to have for themselves.
- 28:49> Good ol’ Boy Barker>And they were like, there's a market for it. So we're gonna start pumping them out.
- 28:52> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin
- 28:52> Bob>Probably a 15 minute smoke.
- 28:54> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Yeah, absolutely.
- 28:55> Bob>For your work break.
- 28:56> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Absolutely. So you could start smoking at work, Robert.
- 28:59> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Oh, there you go. There you go. What'd you think?
- 29:03> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin it's excellent smoke. Excellent smoke.
- 29:08> Good ol’ Boy Barker>What are we rating it?
- 29:10> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin We'll give her a five. This might be an all five episode.
- 29:15> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Well, no, it's not.
- 29:17> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin going to talk about the crap, are we? Oh, we could, I guess.
- 29:23> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Well, I mean, we could. I mean, if you want to.
- 29:26> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Oh, uh, you know, Mike, you want to talk about some crap? No, listen, we'll be right back after the break to talk about some more crap. And we are back>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin From New Orleans. From the PC 20, 26. Nailed it that time.
- 29:53> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Got it. Hey. And we were just talking about Marifel cigars and how much we loved them. And Rich brought up some of the crap that we got to smoke, too.
- 30:07> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin We're not going to talk about the crap that we got to smoke. But what was the. What was the neg.
- 30:11> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Let's talk about. There's negatives with positives right here.
- 30:14> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Let's have a negative. It's not the argument that me and Robert got into.
- 30:17> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin about names, but Robert was there. You know, we went up to one guy and he had a cigar that Robert smoked before.
- 30:29> Good ol’ Boy Barker>And I know that story.
- 30:30> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin I thought, that's a good. That would be a good something to talk about. So I go up to the guy.
- 30:38> Good ol’ Boy Barker>You know, when you're at pca, you're always being careful not to step into a sale because that's what they're there to do.
- 30:44> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Don't interrupt them.
- 30:44> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin just like, hey, yeah, we'd like to talk to you about your cigars. This, that and the other. The guy was a jerk, man.
- 30:52> Good ol’ Boy Barker>He just.
- 30:53> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin instagram followers do you have? I'm like, well, I don't know, you know, and. And just, uh. He's like, well, what can. What does this do for me?
- 31:03> Good ol’ Boy Barker>That's what he said. What? Me talking to you. What does that do for me?
- 31:07> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Right? Yeah.
- 31:08> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin polite to him. But, you know, that kind of shows you some of the. The negativity that can come from some of these manufacturers. And it's not like the guy's a big.
- 31:19> Good ol’ Boy Barker>He's a newer manufacturer or, uh, he. He may not be a manufacturer. He's a newer brand.
- 31:24> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Yeah. I'm glad that I wasn't standing there.
- 31:28> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Because I would have said something and that.
- 31:32> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Because that's bs.
- 31:34> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin any attention he gets should be positive attention.
- 31:39> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Anything's positive attention. And it's like, we're here for you guys. Are we there for free cigars? Yeah, absolutely. Who's not there for free cigars?
- 31:49> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin But we're there for free cigars for content, to help you.
- 31:53> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin instead of talking about what a jerky is.
- 31:57> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Yeah, absolutely. And that's. That's one of the brands that we just won't deal with.
- 32:00> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin You know, and that's okay. Justin, do you have any negative experience because you were all smiles all weekend? Yeah.
- 32:07> Bob>I mean, some of the producers, especially one of the really popular ones that won't be named, were pretty dismissive and rude, but they think they're rock stars right now, and right now they are. But, yeah, time is fickle.
- 32:23> Good ol’ Boy Barker>That's right. We don't escape time. Robert, what'd you think?
- 32:28> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin a pretty positive experience. Yeah.
- 32:33> Bob>Yeah.
- 32:33> Bob>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin when people were talking about their product, you know?
- 32:39> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Yeah.
- 32:39> Bob>Meter is very sensitive.
- 32:41> Bob>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin
- 32:41> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Yeah, he is very sensitive. That's for sure.
- 32:43> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Just don't tell him anything twice.
- 32:48> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin great. Yeah, everyone like, we interviewed and we talked to. So we've got a lot of interviews coming out, um, on our social media. So, yeah, look out for those.
- 33:00> Good ol’ Boy Barker>And if you're not following us on Instagram, Sip.
- 33:02> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Susan smokes on Instagram. Give us a, like, follow. Hit that button.
- 33:05> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin five, ten minutes. But, uh, it's worth it. We get a lot of good information from these guys, get to know the manufacturers and the brands.
- 33:14> Good ol’ Boy Barker>And we did have some technical difficulties, so some of the sound might be a little weird, but, um, just bear with us, because we're learning.
- 33:19> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Yeah, you only think 14 seasons. We might be be learned already, but>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Yeah. Oh, Jeremy, you got to listen to that wildfire episode. That's what's up. Oh. All right.
- 33:31> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Justin, tell us about your cigar.
- 33:34> Bob>So I had the privilege to smoke foundation cigars.
- 33:38> Bob>The Wise Man. It was a blue label, and it's known as the El Qu.
- 33:44> Good ol’ Boy Barker>It's the corojo.
- 33:46> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin
- 33:46> Bob>Means the wise man. It draws its name from one of um, Nicaragua's oldest and most important cultural works. It was basically a play where he's giving the middle finger to the taxman. I had to summarized in one sentence,
- 34:00> Good ol’ Boy Barker>we should all do that.
- 34:01> Bob>Something I could appreciate. And it was created as a tribute to Nicaragua's culture, art, and tobacco, bringing together tradition, history, and craftsmanship into a single expression. It was a Nicaraguan Corojo from 99. And the binder was Estelli and Jalapa. The filler was Estelli, Condega and Jalapa. And, uh, man, I really enjoyed this stick. It brought together the best of flat diet cherry coke and a caramel candy in a cigar.
- 34:38> Bob>M. And it blew my mind. Any of you guys get to try this one?
- 34:43> Good ol’ Boy Barker>I have smoked many of these.
- 34:45> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin Foundation is very foundational in our humidors.
- 34:55> Good ol’ Boy Barker>See, what you did is the cornerstone of our humidors. So what are we gonna rate, guys?
- 35:00> Bob>Cinco.
- 35:00> Good ol’ Boy Barker>You know, fives, Cross. It's an all five episode, folks. All right. We don't have a whole lot of time left, but I wanted to talk to you guys a little bit. And, uh, Overall, take a PCA in. In 30 seconds. Rich, go.
- 35:18> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin for me. Yeah, it was pretty good, I think. Um, definitely seeing the thing I liked about the. The going to PCA is learning about the industry and what's happening in the industry. So I just kind of feel like more part of. But, um, overall, it's a great experience, A lot of fun. They really know how to throw a party.
- 35:40> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Yeah. Robert.
- 35:41> Bob>Oh, my God.
- 35:44> Bob>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin second time I've been there, had a great time there. Would love to go back to New Orleans, but it's gonna be in Vegas next year. Love that love getting to know the people behind the industry and just seeing the sincerity behind what they're doing. There's an earnestness about what they do that they. And they all get along for the most part. It's awesome to see that hit, um, your brick and mortar up. A lot of those guys were there ordering stuff for you guys, you listeners. So go there, support your brick and mortar and get cigars from these guys.
- 36:13> Bob>Justin was one of the best cigar focused weekends of my life.
- 36:19> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Yeah.
- 36:20> Bob>Um, came with the right mindset, met really fun people, and from the morning to the night, I'm smoking with cool people that know a hell of a lot more about cigars than I do. And I learned so much.
- 36:34> Good ol’ Boy Barker>Yeah, no, that's awesome. Hot take for me would be. You know, it seemed like attendance was down this year. Um, but in actuality attendance was not down. I think because it was in the different hall that it was laid out a little larger. It appeared that way. So with it being larger, you didn't, you weren't as congested with people. Um, Vegas gets real packed real quick, full of people all over.
- 37:00> Good ol’ Boy Barker>So I'm looking forward to Vegas this year. It's going to be a lot of fun next year.
- 37:04> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin they're doing sales wise, and they said their sales were good.
- 37:09> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin A lot of people. Well, I've heard that for some brand sales were up and for some brand sales were down. And so that's going to be across the board anyway. But overall, you know, PCA is our, uh, favorite experience to do. We're um, going to try to get inner tobacco sometime or pro cigar festival or do some of these other cigar center festivals this coming year. But we'll see what the cookie crumbles and how it works out for us. But listen, I want to take time to just thank everybody for listening and thank everybody for being here. So good old boy Rich, thank you for being here as always. Yeah. And good old boy Robert, thank you for being here.
- 37:48> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin And good old boy Justin, thank you for being here.
- 37:51> Good ol’ Boy Barker>>> Unidentified Good ol’ Boy Benjamin+++ Benjamin
- 37:51> Bob>Thank you so much for bringing me in.
- 37:53> Good ol’ Boy Barker>And now I'm just going to continue talking because they've already said goodbye. So let me tell you more about what I think about pca. It's all part of, all part of the plan. Listen, tip your waitress, have a good time, smoke good cigars, and don't forget to keep on smoking. And this is good old boy Barger telling you, keep smoking, no matter what it is. Enjoy good cigars because life's too short for bad ones. Thank you all for listening.
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- 39:19> Bob>Sam.
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