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The Pacers Report with Mike Rich, Mike Hutsell & Michelle Garmon (2.303.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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[SPEAKER_04]: You are listening to the Paces report with Mike Rich every Monday on the Central Indiana Sports report.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Welcome Paces fans to the Central Indiana Sports Report for this week's Paces Report with Mike Rich.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Also join this week by Mike Hutsulf, one of our IU guys, and Tipton Tribunal with Colleaders Sports Editor Michelle Garmin here to talk about the latest Paces News and the latest Paces News is Larry Nass Jr. has been signed and is now on the roster.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to get Mike's and everybody else's opinion on that move and
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[SPEAKER_04]: what Kevin Fritchard is thinking now that we think they've been lost.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's finalized and we're gonna talk a little summer league and a little noblesville boom here in a minute because guys the summer league team isn't very counted but it is fun to watch and the boomer thing is fun to watch.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Alright Mike, your thought on Larry Nance Jr. who we've always hated, but I think we're gonna like you on our team.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think we'll like you on our team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I liked Mike a potter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought Mike a potter was a good fit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Larry Nass Jr. does bring a better defensive presence, a better backup, more versatile, higher IQ.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not offensively as he gonna be as flashing as good as his potter, but I think what Richard's doing is building more depth that defense and I think it's the right move for the East.
1:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It kind of goes back to when we were talking about Uberay on our last show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If Larry Nance Jr. is the third string center on your team, you've, you've, you've, you've got a pretty daggers on good team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It feels like to me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, you talk about Potter.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's, Nance has so much more experience, so much more postseason experience.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's played in big games before he's a,
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[SPEAKER_03]: great defender, uh, his static abilities never been in question goes back to the the jeans of what he got from from his old man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, uh, I'm a fan of the signing, you know, Potter,
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[SPEAKER_03]: It feels like my computer is going to be of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a micopotter in the, that you can sign to it to a, at any point in the season every year.
2:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Man, it feels a, a specific role, specific need.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I feel like he really adds even more depth to it that we've already talked about is pretty diagonal and deep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree, you know, I know the issue has been him staying healthy, but because he's not going to have to be the guy or, you know, the guy in the middle, I think it in his minutes won't be as many or I don't think they'll expect that many minutes out of him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it makes for a great fit and I think he has a chance to stay healthy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: or healthy ear, then he has been the last few years this season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the experience and you know, Patre's make the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's just another guy who with playoff experience on the roster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We know this group if they get rolling, they can be pretty special on the playoff and I think he'll just, you can just add to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the signing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really do
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[SPEAKER_04]: As anybody who listened to the last podcast, not a huge fan of Kelly Ubrae have never been a huge fan of his game, but I kind of with this signing of Larry Nancy, what he's thinking of doing with the second team is getting an elite score and putting role players around him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Obviously, that's what TJ McConnell is.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, we top in
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think if you've listened to this at all, you know my opinion on him two years ago came in I thought the exact thing thing is I think of Kelly Ubrae right now And in two years is completely turning that around into a team first guy who could fit in anywhere Jaris Walker's gonna have to just a little bit to Kelly Ubrae But Larry Nance doesn't have to adjust to anybody and that's what I love about him
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[SPEAKER_04]: what I hated about him before when he was playing for teams.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I hated.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He always comes in does the right thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's efficient.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He gets the rebound.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's tough.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't back down.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He runs the floor.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Mike mentioned his athleticism.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's not his athletic.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It probably as he once was, but he's close to his peak on the downside of it, but close to it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I think it's
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[SPEAKER_04]: a pretty brilliant signing, the kind of guy that you needed a James Johnson type who can actually play and contribute for you and also contribute the toughness and leadership as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he comes in and he fits a role and he will play the role.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not going to really step outside of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not going to need the ball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, with that second, that second team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Kelly Ubrae is going to want the ball and I think Nancy's going to be happy to give the ball up to him and get the ball for him and rebound.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, I think play better defense than Mike a Potter was going to give you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think all in all, I look at the second team and I'm like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: How the second team's probably better than some of the first teams we put out last season?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, no question about that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, just with talent.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that just tells you how deep they are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, it is going to be exciting to watch this team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Based on everything I've seen this weekend, we have the best player in the NBA for an entire year and in it in Jalen's Lawson and and wasted him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know what team you all watch last year, but this is Jalen's Lawson's team now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It should be man I got to play.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to talk about the boom and slash summer league team coming up here in a couple of minutes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: what i like and again i don't think ubra fits in with the starters at all i don't want to see him playing much with the starting line up unless there's a serious injury to one of the guys who's count of on the score because i put together a highlight package of kelly ubra and it was two and a half minutes and there was literally one pass and the entire highlight package and i think that was an accident.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So this guy's a black hole once he gets the ball.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He is looking to score immediately and he's great at it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's always been really good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was a time he averaged over 20 points.
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[SPEAKER_04]: A game even last year on a team with a couple of offensive stars.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He averaged 14 points a game.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You move him to the second team.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I assume that's the plan.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he could just really take off kind of
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[SPEAKER_04]: a Terrence Ross type in Toronto or Orlando.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You just given the ball and he is the second team score.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Everybody else is there to support him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that's what they're doing here with the Nance signing, which again, I think is, I think it's a underrated signing and could be a difference maker.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can I speculate on something for one second?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wish you would.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They keep adding guys like Nance, you know, you've got all these like freakish athletic forward types that can over a top and Nance feels to me like, are they setting something up for like maybe a niece myth, package with some picks, Jaris and niece myths for her, for her Jones or Tray?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that would be the case unless there is,
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[SPEAKER_00]: some type of an injury or maybe Halle Burton doesn't bounce back like they think and they need.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't see that I think they're setting it up and then what is that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just exactly what this team can do this year, this group, because they're flirting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We all know under the apron and attacks and everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if they go and they achieve it, her assignment is going to be more
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[SPEAKER_00]: inclined to keep some of the pieces and pay a little bit more you know pay a luxury tax wine a little bit that's what I think I don't think the package comes and less the pacers don't perform or there is injury to where you need to bring in some you need to bring in somebody my guy this signing you're kind of right if there was we were hearing the rumor
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[SPEAKER_04]: Aaron Neesmith and Jaris Walker for Tray Murphy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And now that you bring a couple of guys in who kind of kind of simulate the role of Aaron Neesmith, it makes a little bit of sense.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I hope you're wrong, but it does make sense, Mike.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, here's the thing though, niche with you're not going to the Murphy to niche is not the Matt the numbers don't match Michelle they can make the numbers match, but that I mean they're not that the pelicans don't want to give up Murphy without getting, they don't think of niche myths like they think of them hard.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but we also, I don't think anybody in Boston thought
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[SPEAKER_03]: when the jail and brown trade was I mean the market sets itself if you're if you can't get what you want sometimes you just to make something happen.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but I remember multiple first rounds from what we first rounders from what we hear.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, but here's what I'm going to share, and he's going to be even the key to to getting Murphy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's the first round picks.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And let's face it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if the Pacers are as good as we want them to be and think they will be, these first round picks are 25 or later.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, I'm not, because it's concerned at all with first round picks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I might have to know with Brown is I, grounded somehow somewhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He calling out a favor in Boston.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They, they wanted him gone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for whatever reason, which I think is silly and.
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[SPEAKER_04]: and everything, but I don't think the pelicans also try Murphy gone out that they actively don't want him, but there have duplicates there at a position and they're trying to move on from him and.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why he's available.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's basically what neaks myth or some of those guys got.
10:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's not forget the historically one of the worst general managers in the sport is Joe Doomars.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's who's calling the shots in New Orleans right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You might be able
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[SPEAKER_03]: for Jalen's Lawson.
10:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's, let's try that first start high and then move down.
11:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, let, you know, we set the ball really, really high.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Be like, look, you can do this now and be a hero.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, of Joe Doomars had never taken that job.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He would have been remembered as a genius.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, really?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Wow, genius isn't quite the right word, but he's not a genius, but he
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[SPEAKER_03]: How many Hall of Famers did he not take so he could take Darko Milichach?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Good point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Still one championships though.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's move on to the reason everybody's here and that is Pacer Summerly.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Guys this summer league has been so much fun.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I know Michelle doesn't like it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I freaking love the summer league.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The Caleb Wilson and
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're not bringing him up on the show growing and boozer and man, they have not disappointed at all.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So many great stories, great to see Malik Williams out there and great to see Shani stuff there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But we're here to talk about the Pacers and man, the team was fun.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Then Caitlyn's lost and this team is fun.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They're not very talented there, but I got to tell you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: is if he's five seven, I'm six one, so much fun to watch play and I love ringmasters.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Only he had just a tiny bit of athleticism.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That guy is a genius in the half core and loves to set picks and throw passes and just is so much fun to watch.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Mike, the boomer gonna be a lot of fun to watch and Michelle, I know you're a hater, Hudson, I know you're a hater.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Braden Smith is not a good defender, but he is great with the ball in his hand in the half court and in the opening court even against this level of competition.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We'll see it at the next level, but defensively has got a long, long, long way to go.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But offensively,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Braden Smith can play with the NBA I believe I I I think he can ball offensively, but that's where Michelle gets sort of fueled the hill.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not a good NBA player is defensively.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just not there and he's it is going to take a lot of work for him to ever get there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be exciting to kind of watch him evolve and you know I'm pulling for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that he gets every opportunity he can.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He takes advantage of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He gets better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Usually from game one to game two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what do you get 16 points in game two or something like that?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Five or six runs the offense flawlessly like you did it Purdue.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, all right guys go ahead and hate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How many of his points came on this, make one free throw, get two things that we're doing here.
14:03
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just going to, you know, Greg posts the flyer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's start advertising wine, wine mom Wednesdays now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I already made it for you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It can be the promotional material for this show and for the boom.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I sent it on Friday.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's ready to go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You deserve a half time to yourself, ladies.
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[SPEAKER_03]: go watch the boom on Wednesday nights.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a tough price wine and breed and smith trampoline dunks at halftime.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be amazing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You hear that boom?
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[SPEAKER_03]: The idea is all yours.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The marketing is there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's right there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I hear wine is well-liked and Hamilton County.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the thing, think about this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If Braden Smith, I mean, brings in fans at the boom and they sell out, the merchandise goes well, hey, that makes it easier for her assignment to keep some of those players that can actually contribute in the end play, had a really strong NBA level by paying her luxury tax.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Braden Smith is a great kid, he's a hard worker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm long gonna take that away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I watched the first game,
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[SPEAKER_00]: He had trouble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He really could get a shot off and they were, they pushed him out another couple feet on the, to the three point beyond the three point arc and he just couldn't get into a rhythm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, there will be some guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There will be some teams that he can cause a matchup will be good in summer league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, you know, but no, don't get me wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He'll work hard because in home, his goal
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[SPEAKER_00]: a contributing member of the Pacers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, unfortunately, I just don't believe he was blessed with all the attributes to to be that if he was a little bit better defender and I said this again, if he was even a couple inches taller, it would help him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, they're out west, they're close enough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's set up an exhibition with the Phoenix Mercury.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And let's let Alyssa Thomas just beat the shit out of them because that would be the only thing that would make me
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[SPEAKER_04]: You hear that noseville boom marketing department?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I, you fans will not be.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I am, I am printing money for the noblesville boom right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mercury versus boom at the field house Wednesday night.
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[SPEAKER_03]: During the build it up like a wrestle mania and let's just watch.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's just watch Brainsmith tap out to the AT Joker on the floor.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He'll look like Conor McGregor last night, just wimping out of there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that would not be fair fight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That would not be fair fight.
17:05
[SPEAKER_03]: No, not at all, not a fair fight.
17:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I just wanted that people know where I stand on this breed and Smith thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So Greg, I don't want to, I don't want to be called passive aggressive by Mike Rich and anyways.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mike, I like your blunt, your straightforward.
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[SPEAKER_04]: By the way, this is Mike Rich's last patient's report for a couple of weeks because he is going to be away and man, this has been a good one to further send off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And fun, and fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Michelle will again, and I just want to say Mike, we thank you for your service and you're willing this in serving.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks, stupid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Michelle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's going to be an interesting few weeks, 6 to 7,000 soldiers on kind of one area.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Only two behavioral health officers on duty, so it's going to be fun, going to be fun.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, where soldiers have never been known to be crazy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, like Marines, we have a spotless record.
18:18
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, I think Braden Smith has some of the tools to be a pretty good defensive player.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think he's going to has the upper body strength.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think he has the ability.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, he's best after you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's loaded with the ground.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think he has the ability to have quick hands and quick feet.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's not fast, but he's he can be quick.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's really quick on offense.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Does not show the same kind of lateral quickness on defense, but I think he has what it takes to be an everyday NBA player coming off the bench at some point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You never have to worry about him getting hurt on a roller coaster, because he can't get on one, because he's not tall enough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, I said you know, well, another day I watched him get a nice deal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He got to steal because he was the lowest one to the floor So he was able to crackle the ball and pass it at head Now if it really was I mean he got into against the guy that was like six four Brakes was like a guy on his team There's a guy on his team that he's like a foot taller than You guys the guy he's trying to grab past and slip on his beard grease.
19:27
[SPEAKER_03]: It's you know, it's cool
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[SPEAKER_04]: And you got to see the chance to see Yuki Masakawa because he is a delight.
19:39
[SPEAKER_03]: He has the way the team, the way the the rest of the paysers who I really think it's cool how all of them are out there watching this, but to see like Jay Huff and those guys watching him plays it's it's pretty fun.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's pretty fun to see they hear so into what this guy brings the energy he brings.
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[SPEAKER_03]: just like there's not a lot of guys like him even playing in the G and then at the G league the summer league I mean it's it's it's a little refreshing to watch when when you get a chance to see that guy play you know it's not gonna work out you know he's not gonna be on the main roster but just it's it's it's different and and I'm I'm here for it I'm gonna watch it
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[SPEAKER_04]: and along with Braiden Smith with the Noblesville Boom.
20:35
[SPEAKER_04]: What happened to Togga and Naga or Tom and Naga?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is he still with the Boom?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I he is not, but I can look it out for you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So see where he is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I was hoping to see him on the Summer League roster.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We ought to spend time on the show on that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's do the important.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'll find it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: let's get to the important most important aspect and we've talked about it briefly but Michelle Mike I don't know if you've had a chance to watch have you seen any of the summer league either one of you yeah I still I still the patient's first summer league game I didn't see this last one
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the the the the Jalen's Lawson show has been a sight to behold.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If there's a summer league MVP right now, he might be in the running for it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Greg is that hyperbole.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It is not.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He is with the boom last year toward the end of the season was scoring 38 points a night was just.
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[SPEAKER_04]: he has come from out of nowhere.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I had not heard of him last year.
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[SPEAKER_04]: In fact, probably wouldn't even have signed with the boom if the Pacers hadn't had so many injuries and just kind of took over that franchise that had a really good lower level team until the upper level team took all of them.
21:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Is there a pathway to a role for this guy in your opinion so I think so is the 15th guy at least.
21:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think he's an MBA guy.
21:57
[SPEAKER_04]: He's better than Quentin Jackson who I like.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, but yeah, he's an awfully good scoring talent and does a lot of good things.
22:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you think Milwaukee regrets not waiting and getting rid of Janice when they did because they know valence loss and might be available.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What is Milwaukee doing anything?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, their fight in the Tyler heroes fighting his former teammates and he had a longer fight in Vegas than Conor McGregor did this weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is true.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Didn't what's his name go with him to Miami.
22:52
[SPEAKER_04]: The crazy guy.
22:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you're talking about Bobby Portis.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think so they they also just I'm Gary Trent Jr. to maybe the worst contract in the NBA Oh, what a waste four years four years 64 million for a guy that some people thought might be on a league minimum this year So not quite wouldn't sure what they're doing.
23:17
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought they added some good intriguing young guys when they made the Honest Ray Kalell where being one of them the former IU guy who just felt like he needed more minutes
23:29
[SPEAKER_03]: He was he had moments when he played, but Spolster was not big on, you know, younger, younger guy.
23:36
[SPEAKER_03]: So I thought, well, this is going to be his opportunity, but they have a chance to be really bad next year.
23:41
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, like, like, the season pacer level, bad, maybe, and especially if they look to move hero to four more draft picks, which is apparently still on the table.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Turner's still there.
23:59
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think he's part of their plans.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think Miles Turner is part of the Milwaukee box plan.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where brings something to the center position that Miles doesn't, which is explosiveness?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love what Miles Turner does for Milwaukee.
24:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, Frances.
24:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
24:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think maybe he sat down with Kevin Pritchard and said, OK.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We can't sign you, go get paid, but you're still working for us, because everything you went to Milwaukee to do, it all fell apart, thank you, Miles Turner.
24:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Put no walkie at the bottom of our division.
24:40
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it got to be talked about this last time.
24:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Where's LeBron go and in how much difference is it going to make and please be out west?
24:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care where he ends up.
24:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I just...
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think he knows he's at the end of his career.
24:56
[SPEAKER_00]: He's trying to, and waiting, he's just trying to milk this.
24:59
[SPEAKER_00]: He wants another big special liking.
25:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And when he took his town to South Beach, and I, of course, he does Michelle.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That doesn't mean he's not going to be a difference maker wherever he goes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If he goes to Philadelphia, I really don't think he is.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, did you see how good he was last year of a show?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but he's been with the Lakers for a little bit in that say I'm telling you he wants to do win and he wants to be the out the dog that you have a bunch of young players He's gonna try to coach him develop and I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I
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[SPEAKER_04]: He did a nice job of taking a back seat to Luke last year.
25:39
[SPEAKER_04]: I think he's done a really nice job adjusting his day.
25:42
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's gonna do his gun go in.
25:43
[SPEAKER_00]: He's gonna teach him all how to be big time floppers and cry babies and roll around all the floor.
25:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, thank you Mike Cutsl for that video.
25:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, one of his greatest students has been Mavery.
25:54
[SPEAKER_04]: We all agree that he is a baby.
25:57
[SPEAKER_04]: My point is where he goes, Mike Rich.
26:01
[SPEAKER_04]: It's going to make it difficult.
26:03
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to definitely matter.
26:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And Michelle, it's really nice to hear you bash somebody more than brains in the pot.
26:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a, I keep telling you guys, I appreciate Braden Smith.
26:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I've just promised he's not.
26:15
[SPEAKER_04]: You can appreciate LeBron James too, and completely detest him to the athlete.
26:21
[SPEAKER_04]: I probably do this like more than any in history, but you've got to hand it to him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Last year for his age was so good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's left.
26:30
[SPEAKER_01]: He'll be 40.
26:30
[SPEAKER_01]: He's 41 and I mean, he's 20 points again.
26:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Is he doing what Brady did in the his 40s?
26:41
[SPEAKER_00]: He's still not as good as Tom Brady.
26:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
26:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
26:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Athletically did that he is.
26:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And still far ahead of Tom Brady at that age.
26:52
[SPEAKER_04]: One of the all-time great passers does the dirty work when he needs to hustle your thoughts on where he's going to end up and what role he could.
27:02
[SPEAKER_03]: He's going to go, I think he knows he's not.
27:05
[SPEAKER_03]: He's in this constant race against MJ in his mind.
27:09
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not MJ, but let's be real.
27:11
[SPEAKER_03]: We need to get Grant.
27:13
[SPEAKER_03]: We need to get Grant on my co-host on the IE report on the show.
27:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I have a dissenting voice here, so he can't do the 6-0, never played a game 7, and the final, so now he's going to try for the first guy to ever win the title with five different franchises.
27:29
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think whatever team he feels is the best, that eliminates Miami, that eliminates Cleveland, so I think it's down really to Philly or Golden State, and I think he's going to end up with the 6-ers.
27:42
[SPEAKER_03]: He can be the pressure for him to be the alpha dog isn't there.
27:47
[SPEAKER_03]: He can load manage his way through the season.
27:50
[SPEAKER_03]: He can be as peak health wise when they get to the postseason.
27:54
[SPEAKER_03]: And if he goes to the sixers, and beat is just bonus money for them.
27:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Whereas in the past, they had to have that get destroyed, but even haven't even, well, he physically, he actually has the worst contract in the NBA.
28:06
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no trading head.
28:08
[SPEAKER_03]: But well,
28:12
[SPEAKER_03]: If anybody takes to, if you know NBA GM, Joe DuMars' phone is just bringing right now.
28:23
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's nice having a good little spreadsheet.
28:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm still I'm still I'm still predicting Philly that's kind of been the way I've leaned for a few for the, you know, since the preagency started, I think it gives him the best opportunity to win a title and I think he's going for this win a title with five different teams.
28:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Bye, I don't want to title with Los Angeles.
28:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Everyone was never one was never one was four.
28:56
[SPEAKER_03]: cleavage and Los Angeles.
28:59
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
29:00
[SPEAKER_03]: This would be his fourth.
29:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
29:01
[SPEAKER_03]: So he's trying to become the first to win with four.
29:03
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, his third gets an asteroid because that was the bubble.
29:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Why?
29:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Why does he?
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[SPEAKER_01]: If he could take a back seat and be a role player, why not just go the spurs?
29:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Now I heard I'm I think you end up from what somebody I mean some guys that have been around him rich Paul just has come out and said he doesn't being on a contender is not so much I think he wants to go and end his career in Cleveland.
29:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he wants to go back to the cat is why I want to go back to Cleveland there's there's fine not much of a chance to go.
29:40
[SPEAKER_03]: You could go one year away from your wife believe me it can be done maybe maybe one of his, you know, maybe one of his parents won't leave his kids and he Seep east out on his son have he heard the new nickname for the lakers by the way What's that they're going in as we know we've they're going kind of a one that alternative NBA lineup.
30:02
[SPEAKER_03]: They are now the snow time lakers.
30:04
[SPEAKER_03]: The snow time Andy Andre
30:11
[SPEAKER_03]: and a chore car or whatever the kid from Baylor's name was.
30:15
[SPEAKER_04]: Can we talk about the DeAndre 8 and Pacer's deal and how much different everything would have been if that had happened.
30:22
[SPEAKER_03]: That's that's a tone pod maybe on another time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Next week, what could have been?
30:30
[SPEAKER_04]: Because it might have worked out here.
30:33
[SPEAKER_04]: He's the kind of center that would have gotten along pretty well with Tyre's Alberton.
30:40
[SPEAKER_04]: I see what they were thinking upgrading over Miles Turner with Beyond Raiden, but man, he is.
30:47
[SPEAKER_04]: He's been miserable everywhere he's gone.
30:49
[SPEAKER_04]: He might have just imploded the whole thing.
30:52
[SPEAKER_04]: So it is an interesting topic.
30:57
[SPEAKER_04]: The one time they've ever gone after a restricted free agent in the history of the franchise.
31:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, unless you think in this, they're gonna say, it didn't work out now.
31:08
[SPEAKER_04]: Come progged in.
31:10
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll come bragged and worked out great because Aaron Neesmith and who was the first one pick that came with it was pretty good first round pick as well, right?
31:22
[SPEAKER_04]: It was Neesmith.
31:24
[SPEAKER_04]: The Neesmith came with the first round pick.
31:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was a throw in Neesmith.
31:29
[SPEAKER_01]: That was a throw in.
31:29
[SPEAKER_03]: He was already with the Celtics, right?
31:31
[SPEAKER_03]: And they right through him into that deal.
31:33
[SPEAKER_03]: He was a lot opaque with the Celtics, but he was, yep.
31:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, he's not was a highly regarded guy when he's 14th.
31:44
[SPEAKER_04]: 14th.
31:45
[SPEAKER_04]: I believe Romeo was 12th and he was 14th or something like that.
31:51
[SPEAKER_04]: The Celtics had two picks, 12th and 14th.
31:56
[SPEAKER_04]: And Sean East, by the way, Mike still, and he might play in in the NBA this year.
32:02
[SPEAKER_04]: He hasn't played in the NBA game yet, but he might, oh, plug in the one.
32:07
[SPEAKER_04]: man.
32:07
[SPEAKER_04]: I remember he played as a freshman.
32:09
[SPEAKER_04]: And I thought this kid, there's no way he's going to play it varsity again.
32:12
[SPEAKER_04]: If he was five three, he, and he was getting rebounds and at five three, he was pressing from the start.
32:22
[SPEAKER_04]: Got bigger, got better.
32:23
[SPEAKER_04]: He's gotten better every year from the time I first saw him and is now on the verge of being in
32:37
[SPEAKER_04]: He's getting there.
32:39
[SPEAKER_04]: He's been to, except for Razor Shine says in one place, Shiny says they've been in one place more than a year.
32:47
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he probably has a... How's your boiler ball summer going?
32:52
[SPEAKER_03]: I saw a trade coffin ran, we'll be out with dental injuries.
32:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
32:58
[SPEAKER_04]: I haven't watched as much summer league basketball as I normally would.
33:02
[SPEAKER_04]: That bull's Grizzlies game with some high-level basketball, man.
33:07
[SPEAKER_04]: and not just those two.
33:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Those teams put out some really good play.
33:11
[SPEAKER_04]: I couldn't believe that Coward was even playing.
33:16
[SPEAKER_04]: That's how good he is.
33:20
[SPEAKER_04]: He's gonna be in the starting lineup from Memphis, I assume.
33:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Right?
33:25
[SPEAKER_04]: He's out there in the summer league.
33:28
[SPEAKER_04]: Gotta get those reps.
33:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Some people want to say they would play it on the same court as Jalen's Lawson.
33:38
[SPEAKER_03]: And we were right about Caleb Wilson, weren't we?
33:42
[SPEAKER_03]: That was supposed to be the guy.
33:43
[SPEAKER_03]: The Pacers get four, everything falls in front of them, and then they get Caleb.
33:48
[SPEAKER_03]: That was the plan.
33:52
[SPEAKER_03]: That was what was supposed to happen.
33:54
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why we're not bringing him up on the show.
34:02
[SPEAKER_03]: Some say he's a young Jalen's Lawson.
34:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I've heard that.
34:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Thanks, guys.
34:14
[SPEAKER_04]: We sure do love our Pacers and we sure do have fun on the Pacers report with Mike Rich.
34:20
[SPEAKER_04]: As we mentioned during the podcast, Michael began for a couple of weeks on his military obligation.
34:25
[SPEAKER_04]: We want Bill and guests.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe not have one if there's not much
34:30
[SPEAKER_04]: news, but actually they're playing right this very minute.
34:32
[SPEAKER_04]: So there probably will be some news.
34:34
[SPEAKER_04]: We probably will have some patience reports in the next few weeks.
34:37
[SPEAKER_04]: Talk to these people about their favorite paces moments, their favorite paces players, favorite paces teams.
34:44
[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to do that with some guests coming up here in the next couple weeks while Mike's away.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And there's not a whole lot of news.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Thanks for listening.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Thanks Mike Mike and Michelle.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Central Indiana Sports Report is a
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[SPEAKER_04]: My love, Susie.