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- 0:38Speaker 17: We have a great story at the end having to do with Bailin' Out Loud, a television appearance, Till Death Do Us Part.
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- 1:01Speaker 6: Hello everybody and welcome.
- 1:03Speaker 6: You are listening to The Restaurant Guys.
- 1:05Speaker 6: I'm Mark Pascal and I'm here with Francis Schott.
- 1:07Speaker 6: Together we own Stage Left and Cathal Lombardi restaurants in New Brunswick, New Jersey.
- 1:11Speaker 6: We're here to bring you the inside track on food, wine, and the finer things in life.
- 1:15Speaker 2: Hey there, Mark.
- 1:16Speaker: today?
- 1:16Speaker 2: I'm doing great, and I'm excited for our guests who are gonna be joining us.
- 1:20Speaker 2: We have Phil Warden and Andrew Luce from Till Death, a speakeasy run in the basement of a funeral home in Kansas City.
- 1:27Speaker: Yeah,
- 1:28Speaker 6: the guys are really entertaining and more entertaining than you'd expect a mortician to be,
- 1:32Speaker 2: And everything's up to date in Kansas City.
- 1:34Speaker 2: You don't get that article, do you?
- 1:35Speaker 2: No, I don't.
- 1:36Speaker 2: So Rod- Rodgers and Hammerstein, Oklahoma.
- 1:38Speaker 2: It was-
- 1:39Speaker 6: So, Rogers, why is it Hammerstein, Oklahoma?
- 1:39Speaker 6: And that would explain why I don't get it.
- 1:40Speaker 2: And that would explain why I don't get it.
- 1:42Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:42Speaker 2: Our demographic skews older.
- 1:42Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:42Speaker 2: I hope some of you out there are getting
- 1:44Speaker 6: the Hammersteiner here.
- 1:46Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:46Speaker 2: well, before we get to that cheery concept of a bar, I wanted to talk about something that struck me on the way out of my house
- 1:54Speaker 6: Okay.
- 1:54Speaker 6: Was it a car?
- 1:55Speaker 7: No.
- 1:56Speaker 6: Bicycle?
- 1:56Speaker 7: No.
- 1:57Speaker 6: E-bike?
- 1:58Speaker 2: I should've- Cane I should've known when Wile E.
- 2:00Speaker 2: Coyote ran by that, uh, I should look up.
- 2:02Speaker 2: No, I was struck by, there's a restaurant near my house- that isn't very good.
- 2:08Speaker 6: it's 100 yards from your house.
- 2:10Speaker 6: You have banned me from going there.
- 2:12Speaker 2: the food you can get of this type in ShopRite is significantly better than sitting in this restaurant and getting the frozen crap that they s- I do not know how they stay open.
- 2:20Speaker 2: And, and I'm in Jersey City, where there are
- 2:22Speaker 6: gonna be temporary, honestly
- 2:23Speaker 2: been years now.
- 2:24Speaker 2: But in any event, I was thrilled when I saw this restaurant open across the street from me.
- 2:28Speaker 2: I thought,"Uh-oh, I'm gonna be here every night." And I went there, like, three times and I was like,"This is inexcusable." And the people don't, they don't have the culture of hospitality.
- 2:37Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 2:38Speaker 2: So it's a sushi And there's a great sushi restaurant in town.
- 2:41Speaker 2: Hanshu Sushi in Jersey City, reliable, good sushi for delivery or sit in all the time.
- 2:45Speaker 2: But this other place-
- 2:46Speaker 6: now I want sushi.
- 2:47Speaker 2: Hmm.
- 2:48Speaker 2: Maybe we can have some after the show.
- 2:49Speaker 2: But, this place food's not very good, people aren't very nice.
- 2:52Speaker 2: I mean, I guess they're nice enough, but they don't have a sense of hospitality.
- 2:55Speaker 2: But what they really don't understand, like when you sit there, like the lights are too bright, the music is wrong, the temperature's wrong, they're just too curt.
- 3:02Speaker 2: But I was looking outside at their storefront-
- 3:05Speaker 6: Cause you don't go in there anymore.
- 3:06Speaker 2: oh, I've, I've never seen anything- beyond the outside of their storefront.
- 3:10Speaker 2: Now we have just spent on our storefront b- probably$100,000 in the last couple of years, right?
- 3:15Speaker 2: Because that storefront is you, you're announcing to the world what you
- 3:18Speaker 6: your invitation in.
- 3:19Speaker 2: And they had a very s- simple storefront- uh, with just the name on it.
- 3:24Speaker 2: But they
- 3:24Speaker 6: as we did when we first opened
- 3:26Speaker 7: mm-hmm.
- 3:26Speaker 2: Which is fine.
- 3:27Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with that, especially it's a neighborhood spot with some windows.
- 3:29Speaker 2: But they have slowly been adding signs that, I, I guess as things piss them off, they add more signs- to the outside of them.
- 3:37Speaker 2: And I looked at their storefront today, and you can see one of the smallest to medium signs on the storefront is the name of the restaurant.
- 3:46Speaker 6: is showing me a picture of these signs right now.
- 3:48Speaker 2: right now.
- 3:48Speaker 2: But you can also see, uh, there's a one little thing that says the name of the restaurant, and then there's a sign bigger than the name that says,"Please leave strollers and wagons outside the store.
- 3:58Speaker 2: Thank you." Then there's one that says, um, in English,"Please don't touch the robot." And then there's one in Spanish that says,"Please don't touch the robot." And then there's another one right on the door that says,"Please leave strollers and wagons outside the door."
- 4:13Speaker 6: I don't think they want your wagons or strollers
- 4:16Speaker 2: then right next to there, there's one that says,"No smoking inside or out." And then there's another- one-
- 4:21Speaker 6: sign.
- 4:21Speaker 6: Just so you know, you don't, you don't need that sign.
- 4:23Speaker 6: It's a, it's a New Jersey state law.
- 4:25Speaker 2: law.
- 4:25Speaker 2: Then there's another one that says,"Deliveries around the corner, not here." And then there's a sign that says,"No pets."
- 4:31Speaker 6: just so you know, also against the law, can't have pets
- 4:35Speaker 2: have pets in a food establishment and then there's the two signs that say again in English and Spanish,"Please don't touch the robot." That's a very fussy robot, I gotta tell you.
- 4:41Speaker 2: That robot doesn't like to be touched.
- 4:43Speaker: My
- 4:47Speaker 2: Yeah
- 4:48Speaker: touched the robot.
- 4:48Speaker 6: That's a very fussy robot Robot, it doesn't like you.
- 4:48Speaker 6: My guess is the people that you took out of the strollers- Yeah touched I'm gonna guess that they're all over that robot.
- 4:53Speaker 2: their whole- their whole storefront is,"Go away.
- 4:56Speaker 2: Don't do this.
- 4:56Speaker 2: You're all wrong.
- 4:57Speaker 2: Don't touch that." See, if-
- 4:57Speaker: It's,
- 4:58Speaker 2: it's- you
- 5:01Speaker 6: Dude, their whole, their whole-"Scram, get away.
- 5:02Speaker 6: Don't do this.
- 5:02Speaker 6: You're all wrong.
- 5:02Speaker 6: Don't touch me." See, if you let the strollers in- Oh, god then the kids are strapped down and they can't touch the robot
- 5:03Speaker 2: care if you let the strollers in or not, but you have all your signs are like,"Get away from me," you know?
- 5:08Speaker 2: It's, it's, it's what the, it's, it's really the worst.
- 5:11Speaker 2: And I thought everything, uh, is h- is in red on this door.
- 5:15Speaker 2: There's all...
- 5:16Speaker 2: It's all full of stuff you can't
- 5:17Speaker 6: Don't eat the sushi.
- 5:18Speaker 2: if I put a sign on the door, that's what I would say about that place.
- 5:21Speaker 2: No,
- 5:21Speaker 6: should put a sign on your door that says,"Don't eat the sushi."
- 5:24Speaker 2: the...
- 5:24Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do
- 5:24Speaker 6: I think it's been done
- 5:25Speaker 2: I wish them well.
- 5:26Speaker 2: I just, I- If they listen to this show, they're gonna hate their neighbor, but they should take those signs down.
- 5:32Speaker 2: by the way, it's on the corner- Mm-hmm so there's two facades you can...
- 5:35Speaker 2: And that was just one side.
- 5:37Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 5:37Speaker 2: That was one side of a small restaurant.
- 5:40Speaker 2: And wow, I think it's just, if you got a restaurant out there or any business, you gotta be really careful what you're
- 5:46Speaker 6: what if you put the robot in
- 5:48Speaker: stroller?
- 5:48Speaker 2: Hmm, or what if you had the, the robot just programmed to be like,"Don't touch me.
- 5:52Speaker 2: Don't touch me.""Get away from me."
- 5:53Speaker: What
- 5:54Speaker 6: like,"Don't touch me! Don't touch me! Damn you!" What if I have a robot dog in a stroller that smokes?
- 5:58Speaker 2: With a baby.
- 5:59Speaker 6: if he-
- 6:00Speaker 2: I think you're banned from the block, as a matter of fact.
- 6:03Speaker 2: Anyway, there's our little bit of Restaurant Guys advice.
- 6:05Speaker 2: We're gonna talk to a couple of guys who are operating a speakeasy out of a funeral home.
- 6:08Speaker 2: I can't wait.
- 6:09Speaker 2: We'll be back in just a moment.
- 6:10Speaker 2: Stick with us, and you can always find out more about us at restaurantguyspodcast.com.
- 6:15Speaker 2: Hey there, everybody.
- 6:15Speaker 2: Welcome back.
- 6:16Speaker 2: Today's guests have created what may be one of America's most genuinely hidden cocktail rooms.
- 6:22Speaker 2: Beneath the working funeral home in Raytown, Missouri, just outside of Kansas City, Andrew Luce and Phil Warden opened Till Death The Speakeasy.
- 6:31Speaker 2: It's a private prohibition-inspired cocktail room.
- 6:34Speaker 2: It's genuinely not open to the general public, but regularly hosts events and cocktail classes.
- 6:40Speaker 2: If you know, you know, and if you don't, you can't get in.
- 6:42Speaker 2: So that's the most important thing about speakeasy Andrew's, actually the funeral director.
- 6:46Speaker 2: Phil is a banking executive.
- 6:48Speaker 2: Together with their wives, Liz and Laurie, their enthusiasm for home bartending was turned into one of the most unique cocktail spaces in America.
- 6:55Speaker 2: The room has a casket for a bar, an urn that smokes cocktails, and a history of secret drinking that predates its current owners and us.
- 7:04Speaker 6: Andrew and Phil, welcome to the show.
- 7:06Speaker 13: Hello.
- 7:06Speaker 13: Thank you for having us
- 7:08Speaker 2: You know, I think...
- 7:09Speaker 2: You are welcome.
- 7:09Speaker 2: I think it is, um, really fantastic that, you know, there was that whole speakeasy era that was started, uh, pretty much by Sasha Petraske with Milk Honey, where you really had to have the number to get in because he was trying not to get thrown out of the building in the beginning, and that, spawned a whole era of speakeasies.
- 7:28Speaker 2: But what the speakeasies would do, they're like,"It's behind the hidden telephone behind the hidden door on the left, and we have published this in The New York Times." you know, and, and come whenever you want.
- 7:38Speaker 2: Please make a reservation.
- 7:40Speaker 2: You guys, actually, you are not open to the public in general.
- 7:44Speaker 2: I wanna talk about, your bar and what people can expect if they are lucky enough to be invited to your bar or come for an event.
- 7:50Speaker 2: But you're not open all the time.
- 7:52Speaker 2: You're not open to the general public.
- 7:53Speaker 2: Tell us about your bar
- 7:55Speaker 12: Yeah, we're, we're not open for the, to the general public.
- 7:57Speaker 12: Uh, started out, nine years ago coming up this December.
- 8:01Speaker 12: Phil and I had been doing, basement cocktail events, uh, menued for our friends.
- 8:05Speaker 12: had gotten pretty proficient with, prohibition style cocktails.
- 8:08Speaker 12: Uh, we were too inspired by Sasha Petraske and, and Milk Honey.
- 8:12Speaker 12: And, for me, my, my origin story is the documentary Hey Bartender! That was on Netflix.
- 8:16Speaker 12: I was obsessed with it, kind of obsessed with that scene and, and the, uh, revival of, of that coming back.
- 8:22Speaker 6: Francis was in that movie
- 8:24Speaker 12: yeah.
- 8:24Speaker 12: so we just, w- kind of at the very end of that they celebrate, uh, repeal at, uh, employees only.
- 8:31Speaker 12: And I thought,"You know what?
- 8:32Speaker 12: I wonder if we could do that in the basement of our funeral home." And there was kind of a hidden bar down here that had been kind of just filled with file cabinets and, and paint cans and mortuary equipment.
- 8:43Speaker 12: And so brought him down.
- 8:45Speaker 12: He said absolutely.
- 8:46Speaker 12: We had a flat top casket that we used for, just for exhibition.
- 8:50Speaker 12: Never, never, was never in use.
- 8:51Speaker 12: we set up a pretty, aggressive menu or, uh, made drinks all night.
- 8:56Speaker 12: And that night, at the end of the night, Phil said,"What are we gonna do with this?" We should turn it into a charity." And from then on, we've started doing, make it so there have been charity events around repeal.
- 9:04Speaker 12: It's kinda grown and grown and grown.
- 9:05Speaker 12: But it's, it i- it isn't open to the public.
- 9:07Speaker 12: It's, invite only.
- 9:08Speaker 12: It's, it's here in our, in the private space of below my, one of my funerals.
- 9:12Speaker 13: And we, we were really inspired by, Ryan Maybee, who's co-founder at J.
- 9:16Speaker 13: Rieger Distilling in Kansas City.
- 9:17Speaker 13: He had a bar called Manifesto- Yeah which was kind of the, you know, first like bar that became a speakeasy in Kansas City.
- 9:24Speaker 13: And we were blown away by the creativity and the artistry that, uh, they were making cocktails with.
- 9:30Speaker 13: And we were like, we were just eager to see if we had the guts to actually, or the, uh, the skills to actually try to recreate some of that stuff.
- 9:37Speaker 13: Guts
- 9:37Speaker 12: and skills, actually.
- 9:38Speaker 13: And we were fortunate too.
- 9:39Speaker 13: There was a, there was a group of bartenders at a, at a, what was our favorite watering hole back then, that we would just show up and we would just start asking questions and we would say,"Hey, can we taste that?" Or,"Hey, can we taste that?" Or, you know,"How'd you do that technique?
- 9:52Speaker 13: Can you show us that technique again?" And we just started accumulating all this information.
- 9:56Speaker 13: When people ask us like,"Hey, how'd you guys learn how to do all this stuff?" We said,"Well, we sat at a lot of bars and we drank a lot of cocktails.
- 10:03Speaker 13: That's how we learned."
- 10:04Speaker 6: Well, I, I need to say we talk to a lot of people who own speakeasies across the country, that's part of, you know, the restaurant guys.
- 10:11Speaker 6: You know, we have a lot of people in the business.
- 10:13Speaker 6: Uh, you are the first people to do one in a funeral h- parlor that we know of.
- 10:20Speaker 6: And ironically, about 20 years ago, a little more now, Francis and I, when we were looking for a space for Cathal Marty, looked at a funeral home in Maplewood, and we said,"We can't open in a funeral home.
- 10:34Speaker 6: This has been here for 40 years.
- 10:35Speaker 6: Everybody knows what it was.
- 10:37Speaker 6: No one will come and drink in a funeral home.
- 10:39Speaker 6: There's no way anybody would ever do that," but here you are making that happen.
- 10:43Speaker 13: I remember when he pitched me the idea I said,"That's freaking genius.
- 10:48Speaker 13: Who wouldn't wanna come to a funeral home and have a cocktail?"
- 10:52Speaker 2: by the way, not only are you smarter than we are.
- 10:54Speaker 2: Well, we, we were thinking about it for an Italian restaurant, not, not for, for a speakeasy.
- 10:58Speaker 2: But not only were you smarter than we were, we were looking at something that used to be a funeral home.
- 11:03Speaker 2: It wasn't a working funeral home, so...
- 11:06Speaker 2: And I think there's a whole lot of bars that are, you know, it might be a funeral home theme bar.
- 11:11Speaker 2: But you are in the basement of a working funeral home.
- 11:14Speaker 2: You bury people out of your funeral home.
- 11:15Speaker 2: That's really cool.
- 11:17Speaker 2: That is, that is super authentic.
- 11:19Speaker 6: creepy as shit, though.
- 11:19Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 11:20Speaker 2: yeah.
- 11:20Speaker 2: Totally.
- 11:21Speaker 2: It is.
- 11:22Speaker 12: Yeah, the way, the way we bring our guests in, it's, it's a little
- 11:24Speaker 2: Which ones?
- 11:25Speaker 2: The ones for the funeral home or the ones for the speakeasy?
- 11:27Speaker 12: well, both.
- 11:28Speaker 12: A different door.
- 11:30Speaker 12: Yeah, they actually come through the funeral home door, kind of sit awkwardly in the funeral home up- upstairs until we gather them all together, and then they come down, uh, secret knock, you know, the revealing door, the whole, the whole thing, just, really speakeasy style.
- 11:43Speaker 12: And we, we stay in that style all the way through our, our events
- 11:46Speaker 6: I read something, that you said that was the exact same thing my mother said.
- 11:51Speaker 6: Well, not most of our listeners don't know, my grandfather was a funeral director at a place called Torregrosso in Brooklyn.
- 11:59Speaker 6: So my mother was raised with her father as a funeral director, so she would occasionally be in the funeral home.
- 12:05Speaker 6: you said the exact same thing she did, which was you didn't wanna open the wrong door,'Cause once you open the wrong door, it was a very different experience.
- 12:14Speaker 12: It's a fun game to play'cause upstairs w- in the funeral, funeral business, we very much are deconstructing that.
- 12:19Speaker 12: So we have French doors on public spaces.
- 12:22Speaker 12: the only doors that are private are closets and bathrooms.
- 12:25Speaker 12: Otherwise, you can see through every place else because people are afraid behind those doors.
- 12:28Speaker 12: We flip that on its head for the speakeasy.
- 12:31Speaker 12: We make people go through a series of, of doors to make them feel like they're really traveling kind of almost back in time that whole time
- 12:38Speaker 2: I, I just wanna share a, a similar experience.
- 12:40Speaker 2: This really has nothing to do with the show, I have one similar experience.
- 12:43Speaker 2: I lived for a while in a building that was a small manufacturer of prosthetic limbs and body parts, and his, his, his manufacturing facility was in the basement.
- 12:56Speaker 2: And the
- 12:57Speaker 12: I know where this is going.
- 12:58Speaker 2: the fuse box, if you, if your fuse went out on the second floor apartment and they weren't there, you had to go down into the basement where there were no lights, just you and your flashlight, and you'd be like,"Ah! That's an arm." You know?
- 13:08Speaker 2: So, so similar door, but those weren't actually real people.
- 13:12Speaker 2: Uh, but it was
- 13:12Speaker 12: Yeah, of course, they, it's always, the fuse box, it's always gotta be in the scariest place of every building, and then you put it in a scary building, it's like 10X
- 13:20Speaker 2: I made a note about this when we were preparing for the show, and Mark found it kind of amusing, and I, I think I have a I think I have a whole new revenue stream for your guys.
- 13:29Speaker 2: I would like to book my wake and funeral now.
- 13:32Speaker 2: I just want cocktails to be served.
- 13:34Speaker 2: I want the party downstairs afterwards.
- 13:36Speaker 2: Can we do that?
- 13:37Speaker 2: Can I...
- 13:37Speaker 2: I want a destination wake at your place, and I want cocktails served downstairs, but only for the people in the know.
- 13:44Speaker 2: I'll leave a list of who gets invited to the cocktail party or not.
- 13:46Speaker 2: What do you think?
- 13:48Speaker 12: If you only knew that that was on our whiteboard
- 13:50Speaker 2: Are you serious?
- 13:51Speaker 12: be the first.
- 13:52Speaker 12: Heck yeah.
- 13:53Speaker 2: l- I absolutely would pre-pay for
- 13:55Speaker 12: if it evolved to that, we would be thrilled
- 13:58Speaker 2: you get the permits for that?
- 13:59Speaker 2: So we have, permitting in New Jersey that you can't really serve alcohol in a funeral home.
- 14:05Speaker 2: And we also have lot, lot of stuff where you can't have a, a wake at home either.
- 14:08Speaker 2: You've gotta surrender the body to a licensed, mortician.
- 14:11Speaker 2: But Mark and I would build a series of bars attached to funeral homes, like Irish bars.
- 14:16Speaker 2: W- can you do that in, your city, in Kansas City?
- 14:19Speaker 12: It is state by state first, then city by city after that.
- 14:23Speaker 12: And we are currently working on our liquor license for one of my establishments.
- 14:28Speaker 12: We're gonna start with more event space first, and if it goes well, we'll see where it goes from there.
- 14:33Speaker 12: But we wanna, we wanna do it where it's most obvious, most easy.
- 16:03Speaker 12: This will be difficult just because it's in a basement.
- 16:05Speaker 12: Um, but yeah, we could absolutely serve alcohol.
- 16:07Speaker 12: We hope to be the first alcohol licensed funeral home in the state of Missouri
- 16:10Speaker 2: I'm booking my party.
- 16:11Speaker 2: Everybody, if you hear about it, you should go.
- 16:13Speaker 2: I won't be there, but, uh,
- 16:14Speaker 7: you should-
- 16:15Speaker 6: Oh, you'll be there.
- 16:16Speaker 2: Oh, I'll be there.
- 16:16Speaker 2: That's
- 16:17Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 16:17Speaker 14: Oh, you'll be there.
- 16:18Speaker 2: All right, so, so let's, let's go to the obvious question of have you had any spooky, real ex- experiences there?
- 16:27Speaker 2: Unexplained phenomena?
- 16:29Speaker 2: You know, poltergeists, things like that
- 16:31Speaker 12: I've owned it for th- over 30 years and, you know, you just kind of don't pay attention.
- 16:39Speaker 12: You know, every once in a while you get the spidey sense going, you hear something that doesn't sound right, and you just, you just have to move on'cause you gotta be here day and night, weird hours, you know, close up, all...
- 16:50Speaker 12: You know, like, like, like all business owners do.
- 16:52Speaker 12: And you, and there's...
- 16:53Speaker 12: You just don't know what you don't know.
- 16:54Speaker 12: However,
- 16:55Speaker 6: see dead people, so
- 16:56Speaker 12: And we see dead people.
- 16:57Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 16:57Speaker 12: I mean, yeah, we...
- 16:58Speaker 12: Certainly, yeah.
- 16:59Speaker 12: But we had something that occurred.
- 17:00Speaker 12: You wanna tell them the story about that?
- 17:01Speaker 13: Well, yeah.
- 17:02Speaker 13: We were down here, it was after an event one night.
- 17:04Speaker 13: We were just washing up and, and so forth, uh, putting things back.
- 17:08Speaker 13: And all of a sudden, one of those, you know, like, old doorbells that goes doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo went off.
- 17:16Speaker 12: The old Winchester chime.
- 17:18Speaker 13: And, uh, and I said to Andrew, I'm like,"Is somebody at a door?" He's like,"We haven't had that plugged in for, like, decades."
- 17:26Speaker 6: Wow
- 17:27Speaker 13: we have had a few very interesting- So he,
- 17:29Speaker 12: he said,"Well, let's go check the doors." We checked all the doors, checked all the cameras, and the, the thing is right here by us, and it's, there's no wires to it.
- 17:37Speaker 12: And it clearly came from that box.
- 17:40Speaker 12: So that was...
- 17:41Speaker 12: We just figured, well, they had the...
- 17:42Speaker 12: They enjoyed the party tonight
- 17:44Speaker 13: and- But we, we play around with it, too.
- 17:45Speaker 13: So, like, uh, the former owner that had, you know, kind of a secret drinking club down here before Andrew and Liz bought it, you know, we kind of play up to that.
- 17:54Speaker 13: We have an old fashioned named after him, and we smoke that old fashion in the world's only urn smoker right here, um, we smoke it.
- 18:03Speaker 13: We get a lot of smoke going, so then we pull the top off of it, and that's Gilbert's ghost go- you know, going out all
- 18:08Speaker 2: Oh, I love that
- 18:09Speaker: But
- 18:09Speaker 6: you gotta tell me that nobody's ever been in the Erin though.
- 18:11Speaker 12: Nobody's been in that urn
- 18:12Speaker 13: No.
- 18:13Speaker 12: No.
- 18:13Speaker 12: Nobody's been in the urn.
- 18:14Speaker 12: Nobody's been in the casket.
- 18:15Speaker 12: Yeah, we're
- 18:16Speaker 2: When I book that, wake with you, I wanna go in the urn.
- 18:19Speaker 2: I wanna be, I wanna be in the
- 18:21Speaker 12: Oh, that's the second tough request of the night.
- 18:24Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 18:24Speaker 14: Okay.
- 18:24Speaker 2: be extra?
- 18:25Speaker 2: Will that be extra?
- 18:27Speaker 12: We'll have to retire this one and start up a new one
- 18:29Speaker 2: I love it.
- 18:30Speaker 2: I intend, if this actually happens, one of the reasons I want it to happen is I would like to haunt your place.
- 18:35Speaker 2: I mean, if you're gonna haunt somewhere, I get to be in a bar the whole
- 18:37Speaker 14: Sure.
- 18:38Speaker 6: That's my thing So there's a lot of history in the space that you're in right now.
- 18:41Speaker 6: This is, this has been a, little speakeasy men's drinking club for a long time before you guys owned it, before you guys were there.
- 18:48Speaker 6: So, you took something that kind of already existed and said,"Let's, let's make it real again."
- 18:55Speaker 12: Yeah, I'll give you the, I'll give you the story and then kind of the legend behind the story.
- 18:59Speaker 12: We're the third owners of the funeral home.
- 19:01Speaker 12: The first owner was very briefly, it was a home that became a funeral home.
- 19:05Speaker 12: The second owners had it for 35 years, and then we're, my wife and I are, uh, 31, 32.
- 19:11Speaker 12: We'll, we'll pass them, which is crazy'cause I remember that newspaper article, Hinton's hand over to the Gibson family, after 35 years, and I thought there's no chance I'll be here 35 years.
- 19:21Speaker 12: I'll blow by that.
- 19:22Speaker 12: Um, but they were s- in their late 70s.
- 19:25Speaker 12: My wife and I were 24, and they were Southern Baptists.
- 19:28Speaker 12: The b- the largest Southern Baptist Church was right across the street, and, honorary degrees from Baptist universities.
- 19:34Speaker 12: We were told, you know, these are Baptist people.
- 19:37Speaker 12: The funeral practice is really their tribe.
- 19:39Speaker 12: it was a real small little neighborhood funeral home, you know, old rugged cross in the garden, you know, evening before visitation, same ministers, kind of the same thing over and over again.
- 19:49Speaker 12: And these old guys would grab me in the hallway, and they'd tell their wife to go on in the chapel, and they'd say,"Is the bar downstairs?" there really wasn't, and I didn't know what they were talking about, and there were these guys in their 70s, and, you know, I heard that these were straight-laced people, you know, living at the foot of the cross, and it just...
- 20:06Speaker 12: and this happened over and over and over again, and I just would say,"I, I, I don't know what you're talking about, sir." I didn't want to upset the apple cart.
- 20:12Speaker 12: Uh, they pass away.
- 20:14Speaker 12: We do some technology upgrades.
- 20:16Speaker 12: We start to uncover the bar, the back bar, fireplace.
- 20:20Speaker 12: We actually find the bar, and so the next time one of those guys pulled me aside, I grabbed him and said,"Hey, uh, it is.
- 20:28Speaker 12: What's the story?" And we had heard some other stories around that they had a partying past.
- 20:34Speaker 12: So the folks we bought it from didn't start as f- funeral directors.
- 20:37Speaker 12: They owned a paint and wallpaper store across the street, and they would sit back in the day and answer the phones and answer the door when the first owners wanted to go on vacation.
- 20:45Speaker 12: But back then, they weren't who they were when they were l- in their later years, and they, they partied.
- 20:52Speaker 12: They had a great...
- 20:53Speaker 12: They had parties.
- 20:53Speaker 12: Now, back then, the funeral director also had the ambulance, so they would have big parties down here, and these guys would tell me they'd get kind of loaded down here at the parties in the basement.
- 21:02Speaker 12: The kids would run around and play and hide in the caskets, and they had a record player, mixed up drinks, you know, the very, you know, 19, 1950s and'60s, little skinny ties.
- 21:12Speaker 12: And they'd get a call and, and he'd grab one of those dudes, and they'd take off screaming in the ambulance and go pick somebody up, you know, half-crocked, run them to the hospital.
- 21:21Speaker 12: And those were the stories that we heard.
- 21:23Speaker 12: And so what they would tell us is that they would tell their wives, you know what?
- 21:26Speaker 12: The, the classrooms over at the church are full.
- 21:28Speaker 12: We're just gonna have B- you know, have Bible study or men's group over at the funeral home.
- 21:33Speaker 12: And it just seemed safe enough.
- 21:34Speaker 12: It was over at Gilbert's.
- 21:35Speaker 12: He was a deacon in the church.
- 21:36Speaker 12: But all the time, it was a little, kind of a, a little, um, hidden drinking club for Southern Baptists.
- 21:42Speaker 12: And so we,
- 21:43Speaker 6: I'm gonna
- 21:43Speaker 12: where this kind of came from.
- 21:45Speaker 6: my, my wife knows when I've been drinking.
- 21:48Speaker 6: Okay?
- 21:48Speaker 6: My hair gets messy.
- 21:49Speaker 6: I get a certain look in my eye.
- 21:52Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 21:52Speaker 12: Yes.
- 21:52Speaker 6: she knows.
- 21:53Speaker 6: So, so the wives had to know that this was a, that this was a, a dr- a men's drinking club
- 21:58Speaker 12: And we found later it went from men's drinking clubs to some, righteous little parties down here for those folks that couldn't drink out in public.
- 22:05Speaker 12: And I don't know when it tapered off.
- 22:07Speaker 12: Their daughter, their daughter graduated in, the late'60s, and, her husband became a Southern Baptist minister at a big church, and they're, they're very much...
- 22:16Speaker 12: They, they live in the area here.
- 22:17Speaker 12: I'm kind of surprised that, uh, um, they haven't come wandering over this way.
- 22:21Speaker 12: Uh, Gilbert was a Irish guy, and so we do an Irish, American-style, Irish whiskey old fashioned, and we smoke it, and it's our...
- 22:28Speaker 12: That's our Gilbert Ghost old fashioned.
- 22:30Speaker 12: So he has a, cocktail named after him.
- 22:32Speaker 14: Sure.
- 22:32Speaker 6: that's pretty
- 22:33Speaker 13: probably why he haunts us, right?
- 22:34Speaker 13: Yeah,
- 22:35Speaker 12: it's probably him with the doorbell.
- 22:36Speaker 2: The...
- 22:36Speaker 2: I, I, I just, I, I wanna say Southern Baptists, man.
- 22:40Speaker 2: They're like...
- 22:40Speaker 2: Southern Baptists, for those of you who don't know, they're notorious teetotalers, right?
- 22:43Speaker 2: They, th- drinking is not part of So- Catholic, Irish Catholics, we drink.
- 22:48Speaker 2: The, the, the Southern Bapt- I love that Southern Baptist deacons were holding this secret drinking club.
- 22:53Speaker 2: Somehow I bet the drinks tasted better because of it.
- 22:55Speaker 6: I love that you used that expression that, that we Italian Catholics never would, would've...
- 22:59Speaker 6: I've never heard before.
- 23:01Speaker 6: Living at the foot of the cross.
- 23:02Speaker 12: Living at the foot of the cross.
- 23:03Speaker 12: That's a, we're adjacent to the Bible Belt here, so that's a very Bible Belty kind of thing.
- 23:08Speaker 12: I'm living at the foot of the cross
- 23:09Speaker 14: Yeah.
- 23:10Speaker 2: I l- I love a guy, I love a guy who's living at the foot of the cross except when he goes to the funeral home and sneaks down the back.
- 23:15Speaker 2: But again, that is the spirit of a speakeasy.
- 23:18Speaker 2: I wanna, give a shout-out and call a parallel to two guy- two people.
- 23:21Speaker 2: I don't know if you know Joe and Nicole Desmond.
- 23:24Speaker 6: They were at, the same event you were at.
- 23:26Speaker 12: Oh yeah, the gri- the live event?
- 23:28Speaker 12: That was fantastic.
- 23:29Speaker 12: if you haven't gone to one of their live events, they're awesome, guys.
- 23:31Speaker 12: They're fantastic.
- 23:32Speaker 7: Thank you.
- 23:33Speaker 2: we'll talk about
- 23:33Speaker 13: I want a beef, I want a redo of the beef steak, because I wasn't able to make it
- 23:37Speaker 6: Come next year.
- 23:38Speaker 2: We're, we're gonna do that again next year.
- 23:39Speaker 2: We'll talk about that event in a second'cause I, I do wanna mention it,'cause you guys were there and we appreciate that.
- 23:44Speaker 2: But, Joe and Nicole Desmond, I, uh, to, to finish the shout-out, they owned a bar that wasn't really a bar.
- 23:49Speaker 2: It was kind of a speakeasy.
- 23:50Speaker 2: It was kinda just in their apartment.
- 23:52Speaker 2: Uh, it was called the Rum Rum Room.
- 23:54Speaker 12: Oh,
- 23:55Speaker 2: and the Rum Rum Room was in their Greenwich Village apartment, and it wa- went on for years, and they never charged, but he had this amazing collection of rum, and it was just free.
- 24:04Speaker 2: They just did it out of the kindness of their heart, and they were really important in the renaissance of the American cocktail, Joe and Nicole Desmond, It was truly invitation only.
- 24:14Speaker 2: You had to be discreet'cause they were afraid of getting thrown out of their condo.
- 24:17Speaker 2: and it was amazing.
- 24:19Speaker 12: there's a bunch of those now.
- 24:21Speaker 12: Wow.
- 24:21Speaker 12: I meet people- Wow I meet
- 24:22Speaker 13: Yeah, we d- we did a presentation at a group, called Creative Mornings here in Kansas City, a couple of Fridays ago, and we had a young lady hand us basically her little menu, which she's a- Coolest menu I've ever
- 24:32Speaker 12: seen graphic designer.
- 24:33Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 24:33Speaker 13: Might've been the coolest menu we've ever seen, and that's what they're doing.
- 24:36Speaker 13: They're just ha- they just got a little kind of fun bar- Eight seats that they run out of the apartment.
- 24:40Speaker 2: I love it.
- 24:40Speaker 6: Well, when we come back, I, I wanna talk about how charitable you guys are and the amazing things that your bar is bringing to the world and, and making changes.
- 24:50Speaker 6: I love it.
- 24:51Speaker 6: We'll be right back.
- 24:51Speaker 6: You're listening to The Restaurant Guys at restaurantguyspodcast.com.
- 24:55Speaker 2: Hey, everybody.
- 24:55Speaker 2: Welcome back.
- 24:56Speaker 2: We are with Phil Warden and Andrew Luce of, Till Death The Speakeasy, just outside Kansas City, Missouri.
- 25:02Speaker 2: We alluded to a show of ours.
- 25:04Speaker 2: You attended one of our live shows when we were down in New Orleans at Tales of the Cocktail, and we had, what was it?
- 25:09Speaker 2: 80 people in the room for the, for the live show, and then we did a, a beefsteak after.
- 25:14Speaker 2: And one of the things about that...
- 25:16Speaker 2: First of all, thanks for coming to the live show.
- 25:17Speaker 2: We
- 25:18Speaker 12: Thanks for inviting us
- 25:19Speaker 2: Well, it was, it was super fun.
- 25:20Speaker 2: It was so...
- 25:21Speaker 2: All the cool cocktail people from around the country were there, and, um, we were surprised that beefsteaks aren't well known around the country.
- 25:30Speaker 2: Like, we always knew it originated in New York, New Jersey, but we didn't know that it was still a New York, New Jersey thing.
- 25:36Speaker 2: And one of the things that Mark and I w- kind of blew us away, we asked how many people had heard of a, a beefsteak in, in the audience.
- 25:42Speaker 2: Restaurant people, cocktail people.
- 25:44Speaker 2: I'd say 80% of the people had never heard of
- 25:46Speaker 6: It was really surprising.
- 25:47Speaker 2: Have you guys heard of a beefsteak before, and, uh, what did you think of ours?
- 25:51Speaker 13: Only in a tomato Yeah Beefsteak tomato.
- 25:52Speaker 13: That's all I've ever heard I
- 25:53Speaker 12: actually thought we were coming for a sandwich, like a, like a cheese steak.
- 25:57Speaker 12: I thought maybe that's kinda what I was thinking, and we got there, and then you, as you described it, and I think the political part of that and the, the gathering and Tammany Hall, that's familiar f- just from I, I love political stories in that era and, all that, all that was tied together, and of course, the tie-in of, suffrage and prohibition.
- 26:17Speaker 12: That was amazing, but I'd never heard the specific meal around it and then the aprons and, kind of declassifying everybody by eating with your hands in the white aprons.
- 26:25Speaker 12: And it...
- 26:26Speaker 12: And of course, the food was fantastic, but the...
- 26:28Speaker 12: What, what...
- 26:28Speaker 12: I, I've retold that story I, I'll bet 50 times
- 26:32Speaker 2: love
- 26:32Speaker 6: I hope you guys still have your beefsteak aprons.
- 26:34Speaker 12: Uh, heck yeah.
- 26:36Speaker 2: guys should have your
- 26:37Speaker 12: I didn't, well I haven't washed mine yet
- 26:38Speaker 2: You should do a beefsteak for one of your charities.
- 26:40Speaker 2: That'd be...
- 26:41Speaker 2: You could do it in the parking lot.
- 26:42Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 26:42Speaker 2: but let's talk about your charities and, and the work that you're supporting.
- 26:46Speaker: And
- 26:47Speaker 6: you're not making any money off of this.
- 26:48Speaker 6: so you run a funeral home, you are a banker by, day, and this is just making the world a
- 26:55Speaker 13: It's our passion project.
- 26:56Speaker 13: It's our passion project.
- 26:57Speaker 13: Yeah.
- 26:57Speaker 13: You know, that first night when we were talking about it, it was like,"Well, what are we gonna do with this?" And, um, you know, I don't know, just figuring out a way to do our part in the community.
- 27:09Speaker 13: we had an easy kind of like, transition.
- 27:12Speaker 13: Andrew and one of his partners had founded a, uh, charity called Operation Toy Soldier, which pushes toys to military bases for deployed, you know, military families and things, they had begun that a number of years before.
- 27:26Speaker 13: And so that seemed like a, you know, genuinely easy kind of like ask to make to our patrons.
- 27:32Speaker 13: Plus our event was in
- 27:33Speaker 12: December.
- 27:33Speaker 13: It was in December- Yeah just before, you know, the holidays.
- 27:36Speaker 13: So, we just started asking people to bring, unwrapped toys, you know, instead of paying for a ticket or anything like that, or making a donation.
- 27:44Speaker 13: And I mean, we would have just piles of toys around the Christmas tree that was upstairs in the funeral home that we would end up taking, to bases.
- 27:52Speaker 13: And, eventually after doing that for a few years, honestly the, feedback from the bases was,"Please don't bring us any more toys.
- 27:59Speaker 13: We, we can't go through all of the toys that you bring us already." And there'd been some transition in that a little bit too, and we were searching for what could be the next phase of us.
- 28:10Speaker 13: And I just happened, as part of my like banking life, to spend some time at a group called Veterans Community Project in Kansas City.
- 28:19Speaker 13: They have a community village here.
- 28:21Speaker 13: I think it's 45 tiny homes.
- 28:24Speaker 13: they are actually doing something about veterans homelessness and about providing services, to veterans, in need.
- 28:32Speaker 13: And I was just blown away with the place, we just got to investigating it a little more, and we decided let's transition our model from, toys and things of that nature to where you're actually, you buy a ticket, but you buy the ticket directly from the charity.
- 28:51Speaker 13: So 100% of the proceeds goes to the charity, and then we're gonna go out and, you know, we know enough people in the industry, between distilleries and bottle shops that we frequent, that we can, you know, get some donations and things like that, and we'll foot the bill, you know, the rest of the way ourselves.
- 29:09Speaker 6: are donating all your time.
- 29:10Speaker 6: You're donating...
- 29:11Speaker 6: cocktails aren't just a couple bottles of alcohol, right?
- 29:13Speaker 6: You're...
- 29:14Speaker 6: There's a lot of work.
- 29:15Speaker 6: There's a lot of other products that go into it, and again, it's a lot of time
- 29:21Speaker 14: Yeah.
- 29:21Speaker 13: But you know, that's the fun of it, I think, for us because we were drawn into this and cocktails in general because of the hospitality aspect of it.
- 29:31Speaker 13: Our families had known each other for quite a while.
- 29:33Speaker 13: We were doing wine tastings and other dinner things and stuff, and Andrew took me to a, a speakeasy that was upstairs over another, place at one point in time, and, we just both got smitten with the hospitality aspect and the creativity aspect.
- 29:50Speaker 13: And, you know, being a banker, the, cocktail recipe to me is like a, it's like an equation that's waiting to be solved in a way.
- 29:58Speaker 13: And so we d- that, that just became fun and a creative outlet for us, and our wives, who are tremendous, providers of hospitality as well
- 30:07Speaker 6: know, I know a lot of bankers, and I'm gonna say that none of them get to do anything near this cool
- 30:12Speaker 14: Yeah.
- 30:14Speaker 13: Well, and it's been a fun story to tell too, Mark.
- 30:17Speaker 13: I mean, like look, uh, we've now done this for a number of years we would say kind of like in the ballpark we've raised a, you know, a half a million dollars either in cash or in goods, for charities here in town.
- 30:32Speaker 13: And, I think we're just trying to give back to the community that gave so much to us when we were, you know, sitting at the bars, you know, asking questions
- 30:43Speaker 6: You know, we talked at Tales of the Cocktail for a little while, uh, and you really struck a chord with me that, with one of the specific charities that, that has become important to you guys.
- 30:53Speaker 6: veterans charity that, re-houses unhoused veterans.
- 30:57Speaker 6: please tell us about that charity,'cause it was, that was so riveting and, changing people's lives.
- 31:02Speaker 6: I love it.
- 31:03Speaker 13: I was just there actually, uh, earlier last week.
- 31:06Speaker 13: They opened a new, visitation center where veterans can come in and get immediate needs, like if they need a hygiene kit, they need to talk to somebody.
- 31:14Speaker 13: The s- statistics about how many veterans die every day because they're not hooked into a program is just off the charts just sad.
- 31:23Speaker 13: And so part of their outreach is to get to those people before there is a problem, and then part of their outreach is to actually go to the homeless, you know, encampments and shelters and things like that and try to find veterans.
- 31:37Speaker 13: They tell me the number one reason a veteran is homeless is because they can't navigate the VA system to get access to their rightfully due benefits, which is nuts, right?
- 31:48Speaker 13: So they go out there and they find these people, men and women, and they bring them into this community, and they, they have these communities all over the United States now, too.
- 31:58Speaker 13: It's not just in Kansas City as well.
- 32:00Speaker 13: They're...
- 32:00Speaker 13: And they bring them in, and you get a caseworker that works with you on personal issues and things like that.
- 32:06Speaker 13: They help you do, connectivity to the VA system and figure out-
- 32:10Speaker 12: Personal banking
- 32:11Speaker 13: I mean, they've talked about- Yeah they've talked about that they find couple of...
- 32:14Speaker 13: Some veterans are due a couple of hundred thousand dollars, and they're living on the streets.
- 32:19Speaker 13: And so they bring them in.
- 32:21Speaker 13: You get a place, and here's the, here's the big deal to us-
- 32:23Speaker 12: This
- 32:24Speaker 13: is the cool part'cause we're results-oriented givers, 85 to 90% of the veterans that go through their program within 12 to 18 months have their own job, have their own permanent place to live, and are no longer considered to be homeless.
- 32:39Speaker 2: That's amazing
- 32:40Speaker 13: If you, if you, go to any other homeless shelter around the United States, I would bet...
- 32:45Speaker 13: I don't know exactly what the statistics are, but I would bet it's 10, 15% actually make it out of there.
- 32:51Speaker 13: These people are actually doing the Lord's work in making a dent in homelessness for a specific, group that, should have a home.
- 33:01Speaker 12: They do a couple things that are unique, too.
- 33:03Speaker 6: talk to me about the tiny houses project
- 33:05Speaker 12: yeah.
- 33:06Speaker 12: The tiny houses, they- when they built their first village, they wanted...
- 33:08Speaker 12: They maintain, they maintain that size.
- 33:10Speaker 12: at least the now.
- 33:11Speaker 12: It's started by two combat veterans.
- 33:13Speaker 12: when a veteran moves in, you know, of course one of the biggest things, like Phil said, is navigating the VA system, but the other thing is, like, a physical address is the foundation of them getting benefits.
- 33:24Speaker 12: If they don't have a physical address, I've dealt with veterans benefits, burial benefits my whole career, they send four or five verifications prior to paying, which is the most insane thing ever, but if you can't get that verification email, you're not gonna get paid, and they'll only do it through a physical address.
- 33:40Speaker 12: The other thing they do is when you move into a tiny, one of those tiny homes, everything's brand new, and then when they move out, they take everything with them.
- 33:47Speaker 12: The bed, the dresser, the fridge, everything goes with them, and then when they, when then someone moves in, it's completely refurbished.
- 33:53Speaker 12: So it's not like they're moving into something janky.
- 33:56Speaker 12: It's about giving them this, not only something to take to start a new place- It's- but everybody gets a brand-new interior, new fridge, new bed, new bedding, new paint, new f- new flooring.
- 34:05Speaker 12: Everything's brand new in that tiny home.
- 34:08Speaker 12: And so they have that, dignity to start off and saying,"You're important.
- 34:12Speaker 12: You're not fourth or fifth or sixth or seventh in that
- 34:15Speaker 6: S- and, and both people get a jumping off point, right?
- 34:17Speaker 6: You get the, the person who just starts into the program who moves into the tiny home who, starts with everything brand new.
- 34:23Speaker 6: And you get that, the person who's hopefully upgrading, hopefully moving up, into the next phase has all the stuff that they need so that's one fewer thing for them to worry about
- 34:34Speaker 12: They have a big event called House Party, and it's their major event, we now auction a whole session off and we're one of their top auction items, and we do a cocktail class and some different things.
- 34:44Speaker 12: But, they always do a profile of one of the veterans of previous years, and it's amazing h- how quickly some of those veterans get right back into what we would think is normal.
- 34:54Speaker 12: Own a home, get their children, maybe get custody, partial custody of their children back, have a new relationship.
- 35:00Speaker 12: And also, prior to them getting there, how low their low was, but how quickly they got to their low.
- 35:07Speaker 12: that's where it just grinds to all the way to the bone.
- 35:09Speaker 12: And they don't take a penny from the federal government, uh,'cause they wanna do it their way.
- 35:13Speaker 12: If they take any money from the VA or from any part of the government, then there's rules.
- 35:17Speaker 12: So they do...
- 35:18Speaker 12: They're, completely cavalier and, and maverick in this thing, and they do it their way, which is fantastic.
- 35:22Speaker 13: The last thing about this that's so, like, impactful to us is almost every time I go there to their campus, uh, to their welcome center, inevitably they'll introduce a veteran to me who used to be in their program that comes back and volunteers now because that veteran wants to help the next group of get to where they're at at
- 35:47Speaker 2: That's amazing.
- 35:48Speaker 2: Leave no man behind.
- 35:49Speaker 2: It's
- 35:49Speaker 12: Leave no man behind, yeah
- 35:50Speaker 13: That's exactly right
- 35:51Speaker 2: Well, what kind of charity events do you do every year, and are you open to doing more events if someone approaches you to do a charity event?
- 36:01Speaker 6: To do, say, a
- 36:02Speaker 14: We did
- 36:02Speaker 6: in Kansas City, Missouri
- 36:05Speaker 12: We did our first Veterans Community Project event and knew, we knew, we, we'd already expanded our, our other events prior to working with VCP to I think maybe, I think we were doing maybe like two or three in a weekend.
- 36:18Speaker 12: So, and it always started with Repeal.
- 36:20Speaker 12: But we only had done things on Repeal weekend, so around December 5th.
- 36:24Speaker 12: And we, and we have admired Sother Teague forever, and so we stalked him.
- 36:28Speaker 12: He did a, he did a guest shift at the Hay Club, uh, with Ryan Mabey.
- 36:32Speaker 12: And we went first night, first tickets, center bar, logos.
- 36:37Speaker 12: And you guys know Sother.
- 36:38Speaker 12: He is, the number of people I've met that he mentors is just overwhelming.
- 36:43Speaker 12: He is, he is the mentor's mentor.
- 36:45Speaker 12: And he, he said, I'm coming." And we're like, Sother Teague's coming to this.
- 36:50Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 36:51Speaker 12: Hilarious.
- 36:52Speaker 12: And then I, all of a sudden, I see, uh, you know, a, a Zoom, uh, email from Phil.
- 36:56Speaker 12: Uh, Till Death guys and Sother Teague Zoom.
- 36:58Speaker 12: I'm like,"Yeah, he's not gonna show up." Not only did he not show up, he came, did a guest shift.
- 37:02Speaker 12: But the first thing he said to us was,"You need to do more." And he challenged us to do more.
- 37:07Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 37:07Speaker 12: He goes,"You guys, you guys got your shit together.
- 37:10Speaker 12: You make great drink- drinks.
- 37:11Speaker 12: Your experience is cool.
- 37:12Speaker 12: Your guests are awesome.
- 37:13Speaker 12: This is really remarkable.
- 37:15Speaker 12: You need to scale up." And he, made a case for if we're prepping for a weekend, instead of doing two two-hour shifts, let's do three nights of two-hour, and let's add an industry event.
- 37:26Speaker 12: So we, we now do an industry, almost always do a Saturday.
- 37:29Speaker 12: We don't do it in December'cause industry people are tough.
- 37:31Speaker 12: But the one that we do in the wintertime, which will become our New Orleans cocktail event, we do an industry event.
- 37:37Speaker 12: And then we do one for, in the spring, for Harvesters, Food Bank, our community food bank.
- 37:43Speaker 12: One of the, gift people at Veterans Community Project moved to our food bank and said,"Will you ever consider doing another one?" And she's just, she's the president of our fan club.
- 37:51Speaker 12: She's fantastic.
- 37:52Speaker 12: And it gave us an excuse to do something different.
- 37:55Speaker 12: So at that, at that event, it's the same style.
- 37:58Speaker 12: Little bit more relaxed than our Repeal party, which is k- a little bit of a pageant.
- 38:02Speaker 12: Um, but we do, only do sugarcane and agave, spirits at that event in June.
- 38:07Speaker 12: And we try to do'em in, new classic or, prohibition-style cocktails.
- 38:11Speaker 12: So people can try these great spirits, but done in not, you know, not, you can't have s- we don't have eight margaritas on the f- on the menu.
- 38:18Speaker 12: and that allowed us to bring in different distilleries and different, different bottles.
- 38:22Speaker 12: And that's now grown.
- 38:24Speaker 12: it's now its own monster, um, too.
- 38:26Speaker 12: So your question was do, are we open to other charities.
- 38:29Speaker 12: It's tough to do other charities because we do depend on, the folks that are donating to us and being on that same message.
- 38:38Speaker 12: And so we have people approach us all the time,"Would you do this for us?" Because this is our, Batman gig, not our you know, not our real-time thing- it's us two, our wives, and my dad is behind us on the other side of the camera.
- 38:49Speaker 12: He's our, he's the head of our bar team and has one of the coolest home bars in Kansas City, makes good cocktails himself.
- 38:54Speaker 12: But this is our, our bar team, and we used to drag our kids until they decided to get engaged and then be too cool for us.
- 38:59Speaker 12: But that's, that's it.
- 39:00Speaker 12: So again, it's, it...
- 39:02Speaker 12: We're open to it, but we don't...
- 39:04Speaker 12: Right now we, we've kinda got all we can handle.
- 39:06Speaker 12: I think
- 39:06Speaker 13: what we decided to do rather than doing more charity work is we, we got asked all the time,"How'd you guys learn how to do this and stuff?" And we both have, like, teaching backgrounds or at least genes, you know, of teaching, you know, in us.
- 39:21Speaker 13: And we started thinking about, well, how could we give back to all the bars that taught us how to do this, and all the people who actually have capital at risk here?
- 39:31Speaker 13: And so we launched a group cocktail class called Till Death The Academy, couple years ago.
- 39:37Speaker 13: This weekend we'll have a couple classes.
- 39:39Speaker 13: We'll have, like, 28 people come through.
- 39:41Speaker 13: our kinda thesis there is, like, let's educate people so that they can be better patrons when they go to the real bars that our friends own out there, because more educated patrons probably have higher check sizes than do, you know, uneducated
- 39:58Speaker 2: Oh, 100%.
- 39:59Speaker 2: Well, we are gonna put, uh, the Veterans Community Project website up on
- 40:03Speaker 12: Thank you.
- 40:04Speaker 13: Thank you so much.
- 40:05Speaker 2: we're gonna put, Till Death KC up on the show notes, and, uh, hopefully people will contact you.
- 40:10Speaker 2: And I hope we run into each other again, uh, at cocktail things
- 40:13Speaker 6: 100% certain we'll run into each other again, and we will be doing a beef steak in New Orleans again next year.
- 40:19Speaker 6: So we'll make sure you guys are on the head
- 40:21Speaker 13: And you're welcome to come to Kansas City
- 40:22Speaker 12: if you need us to be on, uh, staff for the beefsteak, we'd love to
- 40:26Speaker 6: You're hired.
- 40:27Speaker 2: It may be at your funeral home.
- 40:29Speaker 2: We haven't quite, we, we, we, they, we haven't delivered the ask yet.
- 40:32Speaker 2: Who knows?
- 40:33Speaker 2: Anyway, hope you guys have enjoyed, uh, meeting Phil and Andrew and hanging out with The Restaurant Guys.
- 40:37Speaker 2: We certainly have.
- 40:38Speaker 12: you guys have time for a quick
- 40:39Speaker 2: Yeah, please.
- 40:40Speaker 2: Sure.
- 40:40Speaker 16: So that's the end of the line of this interview if you are not a paid subscriber to The Restaurant Guys.
- 40:45Speaker 16: If you are a paid subscriber or if you were a paid subscriber, you would be about to hear a great story that they have to tell about them being on TV, bailing out loud, Tourette syndrome, till death do us part.
- 40:56Speaker 16: It's a great story.
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- 41:06Speaker 16: It's only a couple of bucks a month to you, but it means a lot to us
- 41:10Speaker 2: Yeah, those guys are great.
- 41:12Speaker 6: that show was a lot of fun, really interesting.
- 41:14Speaker 6: What a story, doing a speakeasy underneath a-
- 41:18Speaker 2: Working funeral home?
- 41:19Speaker 6: I don't
- 41:20Speaker 2: I'm in.
- 41:20Speaker 2: I'm all in underneath a working funeral home.
- 41:21Speaker 2: I'm 100% in.
- 41:22Speaker 2: I really am.
- 41:23Speaker 2: Bury me there.
- 41:23Speaker 2: If I go soon, Mark, bury me there.
- 41:25Speaker 6: So I, I have a story for you that I don't know if you know
- 41:29Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
- 41:29Speaker 2: I thought I knew all your stories.
- 41:31Speaker 6: within the last few years, Jennifer and I were at a, a friend's parents' funeral, and it was in Nutley.
- 41:37So the funeral parlor was
- 41:39Speaker 6: Nutley'd Out.
- 41:39Speaker 6: It was really over the top Italian.
- 41:39Speaker 6: Yes.
- 41:39Speaker 6: As Nutley
- 41:42Speaker 2: Yes, as Nutley people tend to be.
- 41:44Speaker 6: we talk about Mary on the half shell out on the front yard.
- 41:47Speaker 6: There's a very, very religious and overdone funeral
- 41:51Speaker 2: Yeah, you- Yeah Italians are so dramatic.
- 41:52Speaker 6: Italians are so dramatic We, we, we do the drama.
- 41:54Speaker 6: So much so that Jennifer goes into the ladies room and then comes out, and says,"You gotta see this."
- 42:03Speaker 2: What the hell was in the ladies' room?
- 42:04Speaker 6: the hell was in Jennifer leads me into this bathroom in this funeral parlor, and it is incredibly Italian-American, gaudy, crystal chandelier in the bathroom, mirrors.
- 42:15Speaker 6: Just unbelievably over-the-top bathroom.
- 42:18Speaker 6: Too much.
- 42:18Speaker 6: Too much.
- 42:19Speaker 6: So Jennifer and I come out of the ladies room in the funeral parlor.
- 42:24Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 42:24Speaker 6: And my brother goes up to me, he goes, What's this, the mile high club?" To which I immediately turn to him and go, More like the six foot under club."
- 42:33Speaker 2: terrible.
- 42:34Speaker 2: You're I'd have thought the same thing.
- 42:35Speaker 2: I, I thought,"Look at Jen and Mark getting frisky at the wake.
- 42:38Speaker 2: I thought that would've been
- 42:38Speaker 6: It was the bathroom was amazing.
- 42:41Speaker 6: The one-liner I was pretty proud of.
- 42:43Speaker 2: It would've been more amazing if you wouldn't...
- 42:45Speaker 2: Never mind.
- 42:45Speaker 2: Uh, so I, I hope that you guys...
- 42:47Speaker 2: I- You know, the, the thing is you said something earlier.
- 42:50Speaker 2: I'm amazed at how often on this show it comes up that your grandfather was a funeral
- 42:54Speaker 6: It, I, it
- 42:54Speaker 2: does come up a lot.
- 42:55Speaker 2: They're everywhere.
- 42:56Speaker 2: A lot of funeral direction going on here.
- 42:58Speaker 6: A lot of funeral direction going on here.
- 42:59Speaker 6: Well, everybody's been through a funeral,
- 42:59Speaker 2: That's true.
- 43:00Speaker 2: That's
- 43:00Speaker 6: We all gotta die.
- 43:01Speaker 2: not my own yet.
- 43:02Speaker 2: So listen, if you hear about my passing, I would look for the secret, speakeasy wake that I intend to have in Kansas City.
- 43:09Speaker 2: Hope you've enjoyed this time listening to The Restaurant Guys.
- 43:11Speaker 2: I'm Francis
- 43:12Speaker 6: And I'm Mark
- 43:12Speaker 2: We are The Restaurant Guys.
- 43:14Speaker 2: You can always find out more about us at restaurantguyspodcast.com.