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- 0:35Speaker 1: What's up, Portland?
- 0:39Speaker 2: All right.
- 0:42Speaker 1: Welcome to Pod Save America. I'm Jon Favreau.
- 0:48Speaker 3: I'm Nagin Farsad.
- 0:51Speaker 4: I'm Tommy Vitor.
- 0:54Speaker 5: I'm Dan Pfeiffer.
- 0:59Speaker 1: Jon Lovett still has COVID, but. He's working through it.
- 1:04Speaker 1: He's okay.
- 1:05Speaker 4: Yeah, he was on some Zooms today.
- 1:06Speaker 1: He was on some Zooms.
- 1:07Speaker 4: He's fine.
- 1:08Speaker 6: He was happy but also upset that Thursday's show went well.
- 1:12Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:14Speaker 1: He wanted it to go well. He didn't want it
- 1:15Speaker 1: to go too well. We are very lucky to have
- 1:18Speaker 1: the hilarious Nagin Farsad with us, who's... Please subscribe to
- 1:25Speaker 1: her podcast, Fake the Nation, if you haven't already. It
- 1:27Speaker 1: is hilarious. We are also lucky to have with us
- 1:30Speaker 1: tonight your next member of Congress from Oregon's 5th District,
- 1:34Speaker 1: Jamie McLeod Skinner. All right, let's get to some news.
- 1:44Speaker 1: Donald Trump and Mike Pence, who, there they are right there,
- 1:52Speaker 1: who went from 2020 GOP running mates to president and
- 1:55Speaker 1: vice president, to leader of a violent mob and guy
- 1:59Speaker 1: that the violent mob wanted to hang, to potential 2024 rivals.
- 2:03Speaker 1: These two frenemies campaigned in Arizona on Friday for two
- 2:06Speaker 1: different Republicans running for governor, the same day that their
- 2:09Speaker 1: former campaign manager, podcast legend Stephen K. Bannon, was found
- 2:14Speaker 1: guilty on two counts of contempt of Congress. And now
- 2:20Speaker 1: faces up to two years in prison. All in all,
- 2:24Speaker 1: a banner day for the party of law and order.
- 2:26Speaker 1: It's very good. So, Nagin, let's start with Trump and Pence.
- 2:31Speaker 1: One of Mike Pence's advisors told the Washington Post that
- 2:35Speaker 1: if he runs, the former vice president will make the
- 2:37Speaker 1: point that, quote, Trump is the only person who lost
- 2:41Speaker 1: to Biden. Though the closest he came to criticizing his
- 2:44Speaker 1: former boss in Friday's speech was when he said, quote,
- 2:47Speaker 1: there are those who want to make this election about
- 2:49Speaker 1: the past.
- 2:52Speaker 5: What do you think?
- 2:54Speaker 1: Very, very pointed. What do you think about Pence's strategy here?
- 2:57Speaker 1: And would you be losing sleep over it if you
- 3:00Speaker 1: were Donald Trump?
- 3:00Speaker 3: Wait, hold on.
- 3:01Speaker 2: Did you say that he said there are those that
- 3:05Speaker 2: want to make this election about the past?
- 3:09Speaker 6: Oh, shit.
- 3:10Speaker 8: I can't believe he said that.
- 3:14Speaker 2: What?
- 3:15Speaker 3: Oh, my God. He really went there.
- 3:18Speaker 1: He went there. Yeah.
- 3:20Speaker 2: That is just, but for the people of Arizona to
- 3:23Speaker 2: have one night where you can either go to a
- 3:25Speaker 2: Pence rally or a Trump rally is sort of like
- 3:28Speaker 2: when you open the refrigerator and you find out that
- 3:32Speaker 2: all you have left is milk that just went sour
- 3:37Speaker 2: or cheese that just went moldy. And to me, you
- 3:42Speaker 2: could take the cheese and then cut off the moldy parts.
- 3:47Speaker 2: And then you have this little nub of cheese. What
- 3:49Speaker 2: I'm saying is that Mike Pence is a little nub
- 3:51Speaker 2: of cheese.
- 3:52Speaker 1: I was wondering who the cheese was.
- 3:56Speaker 2: You know, he's like slightly just more edible. But what
- 4:04Speaker 2: I love about Mike Pence's speech is that he also,
- 4:07Speaker 2: he spent a lot of time sort of like praising
- 4:10Speaker 2: the candidate he was there supporting and for being there
- 4:15Speaker 2: for the Pence-Trump ticket, through the Trump-Pence ticket, in 2016
- 4:20Speaker 2: and 2020. So every time he speaks, he kind of
- 4:23Speaker 2: does this thing where.
- 4:24Speaker 3: He's bringing a gift bag to his executioner. You know
- 4:28Speaker 3: what I mean?
- 4:29Speaker 2: Where he's just like, oh my God, thank you for
- 4:31Speaker 2: inviting me to this beheading of me.
- 4:35Speaker 3: I hope you enjoy Pino. And he's just, like, so
- 4:40Speaker 3: embarrassing for himself.
- 4:45Speaker 6: What if Pence won and made Trump his VP? Just to, like,
- 4:49Speaker 6: get his ass back? No one's talked about it.
- 4:52Speaker 5: I'm just glad we could all be here the first
- 4:54Speaker 5: time anyone ever said the words, what I loved about
- 4:57Speaker 5: the Mike Pence speech was.
- 4:58Speaker 1: I was just going to say, so, like, Our wonderful
- 5:02Speaker 1: production team at Crooked Media helps us prep for these shows.
- 5:05Speaker 1: And yesterday when we found out that we were so lucky,
- 5:08Speaker 1: blessed by the news gods, to have a Trump rally
- 5:10Speaker 1: and a Pence rally on Friday so we could talk
- 5:13Speaker 1: about it tonight, we were like, could everyone please look
- 5:15Speaker 1: at the Mike Pence rally? And we got an email
- 5:17Speaker 1: last night that said all the things about the Donald
- 5:19Speaker 1: Trump rally, and then it just said, we did not
- 5:21Speaker 1: pull any clips from the Mike Pence rally. It was boring.
- 5:24Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I can't argue with that.
- 5:28Speaker 1: It was like NA. I can't argue with that. What
- 5:30Speaker 1: do you think, though, about the strategy, the Pence strategy,
- 5:33Speaker 1: saying that, Dan, that Donald Trump is the only one
- 5:37Speaker 1: who lost to Joe Biden?
- 5:38Speaker 5: We have argued on this stage many times that the
- 5:41Speaker 5: best message against Donald Trump is that he is a loser.
- 5:44Speaker 5: And in a Republican primary, I love people cheering for that,
- 5:48Speaker 5: in a Republican primary, the message that Donald Trump lost
- 5:52Speaker 5: to Sleepy Joe is probably a very powerful message. Because
- 5:55Speaker 5: I would like to see one day some Republican, or
- 5:59Speaker 5: see someone try to expose the contradiction between Donald Trump
- 6:02Speaker 5: and the right wing portraying Joe Biden as like the
- 6:05Speaker 5: lead character weekend at Bernie's and as the mastermind of
- 6:08Speaker 5: a global conspiracy to steal an election. But so I
- 6:12Speaker 5: think that is a good message for every single person
- 6:16Speaker 5: walking the planet other than Mike Pence. He was on
- 6:21Speaker 5: the ticket.
- 6:22Speaker 1: It's an awkward one for him.
- 6:24Speaker 5: He lost two. He didn't win anything. I guess he
- 6:28Speaker 5: lost to Kamala Harris.
- 6:34Speaker 4: It's so crazy that they would float that.
- 6:37Speaker 6: He's literally the only Republican on the planet that can't
- 6:40Speaker 6: use that message.
- 6:41Speaker 4: If I'm Ron DeSantis, I'd be like, yeah, motherfucker, you
- 6:43Speaker 4: lost to Kamala. I mean, that's 100%.
- 6:47Speaker 1: It's worse that they didn't just float it. They floated
- 6:49Speaker 1: it in the Washington Post, and then he didn't do it.
- 6:51Speaker 4: He didn't do it.
- 6:52Speaker 1: He didn't do it.
- 6:53Speaker 3: He's a coward.
- 6:53Speaker 2: Well, he had that really intense line about the past.
- 6:57Speaker 4: I love that line.
- 6:58Speaker 6: Which we're all still reeling from. Because you know they
- 7:01Speaker 6: spent dozens of hours poll testing, talking through this line
- 7:05Speaker 6: about the future and the past. And go ahead and
- 7:07Speaker 6: deliver that, Mike Pence, because Donald Trump will be like,
- 7:10Speaker 6: Mike took bribes from the Chinese. General Flynn's got the
- 7:13Speaker 6: receipts on it.
- 7:14Speaker 4: He'll just make up shit. It doesn't matter.
- 7:16Speaker 1: I know. Now, we were going to pull a clip
- 7:19Speaker 1: from the Trump speech, but that was also a lot
- 7:21Speaker 1: of rehash. There was a Trump speech tonight at a
- 7:25Speaker 1: conservative conference where there was just a fantastic clip from
- 7:29Speaker 1: Donald Trump that I think we should play.
- 7:32Speaker 9: In fact, as president, I wanted to give myself the
- 7:35Speaker 9: Congressional Medal of Honor, but they wouldn't let me do it.
- 7:39Speaker 9: They wouldn't let me do it. I said, I'm going
- 7:40Speaker 9: to give myself the king. I've always wanted that. But
- 7:45Speaker 9: they wouldn't let me do that. They said that would
- 7:46Speaker 9: be inappropriate.
- 7:47Speaker 5: I said, okay.
- 7:52Speaker 1: I mean....
- 7:55Speaker 6: We debated whether he was kidding, but decided we don't care.
- 8:00Speaker 1: He doesn't kid about that. That's dead serious. Dead serious.
- 8:03Speaker 1: All right.
- 8:04Speaker 9: Dan.
- 8:05Speaker 1: Friday's event took place in one of the closest swing
- 8:07Speaker 1: states with two of the most competitive midterm races for
- 8:10Speaker 1: both governor and Senate, where Trump has endorsed former TV
- 8:14Speaker 1: newscaster Carrie Lake. And in the Arizona Senate race, he's
- 8:19Speaker 1: endorsed Peter, Peter Thiel, protege Blake Masters. What do we
- 8:23Speaker 1: know about these two candidates and how hard will it
- 8:25Speaker 1: be for the Democratic nominees to beat them in a
- 8:28Speaker 1: general election?
- 8:30Speaker 5: So I think the best way to describe Blake Masters
- 8:33Speaker 5: is a combination of J.D. Vance and the lead character
- 8:38Speaker 5: from American Psycho. And the best way to describe Carrie
- 8:43Speaker 5: Lake is Ron Burgundy meets Marjorie Taylor Greene.
- 8:50Speaker 2: I feel like you're describing dudes I dated in my 20s, just.
- 8:53Speaker 5: For the record.
- 8:54Speaker 3: Keep going.
- 8:55Speaker 5: So Blake Masters is a.
- 8:59Speaker 5: When you say he's a protege of Peter Thiel, he
- 9:01Speaker 5: is a person who as an undergrad at Stanford became
- 9:04Speaker 5: famous by live blogging Peter Thiel's lectures in class, which
- 9:09Speaker 5: then became picked up by the press.
- 9:11Speaker 6: Pause on how lame that is. Imagine live blogging shit
- 9:14Speaker 6: your professor was saying in class.
- 9:16Speaker 5: Come on. And then got hired by Peter Thiel, helped
- 9:20Speaker 5: him write his book. He started out as a libertarian
- 9:23Speaker 5: who wrote lots of crazy, dangerous things in college and
- 9:26Speaker 5: has returned himself into an America-first MAGA candidate. He has
- 9:31Speaker 5: an ad with an AR-15 where he talks about how
- 9:34Speaker 5: it's a weapon for killing people. He wants to impeach
- 9:37Speaker 5: Joe Biden over the border because racism? I don't know.
- 9:41Speaker 5: Kerry Lake is a longtime Arizona newscaster who voted for
- 9:51Speaker 5: John Kerry.
- 9:53Speaker 1: Re-registered... I like the random clap there. It was like... Yeah, Kelly!
- 9:56Speaker 10: She.
- 10:00Speaker 5: Was so moved by Barack Obama's victory in the Iowa
- 10:04Speaker 5: caucuses in 2008, she registered as a Democrat the next day. Wow.
- 10:08Speaker 5: Gave to his campaign. About a year ago, she decided
- 10:12Speaker 5: to run for office as a complete election-lie-pushing... She's on Gab.
- 10:20Speaker 5: She hangs out with white supremacists.
- 10:22Speaker 1: She's full of shit.
- 10:23Speaker 5: She's 100% full of shit. But the thing that we
- 10:28Speaker 5: have to always remember is whether these MAGA people are
- 10:32Speaker 5: true believers, like I think Blake Masters might be, or
- 10:36Speaker 5: completely full of shit like Carrie Lake and J.D. Vance are,
- 10:40Speaker 5: they're just as dangerous.
- 10:42Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 10:43Speaker 4: And so Arizona.
- 10:46Speaker 5: We have great candidates there. Obviously, Mark Kelly's a great candidate.
- 10:49Speaker 5: We're still waiting to see who wins the Democratic primary,
- 10:51Speaker 5: but it seems like Katie Hobbs, who's the Secretary of State,
- 10:54Speaker 5: is the leader, is the favorite. Carrie Lake does think
- 10:59Speaker 5: Katie Hobbs should go to jail because Joe Biden won
- 11:01Speaker 5: the state in 2020. That's her reason. But those are
- 11:04Speaker 5: going to be really, really tough races. Even in a
- 11:07Speaker 5: great year, Arizona's tough. I don't know if you've looked
- 11:09Speaker 5: out the window recently, but this is not a great year.
- 11:12Speaker 10: No.
- 11:12Speaker 2: But, I mean, if you ever meet someone in your
- 11:15Speaker 2: life who's making a transition, like Carrie Lake, from an
- 11:18Speaker 2: Obama person to, like, a crazy MAGA person, suggest to
- 11:22Speaker 2: them to, like, get a haircut. Like, that might be enough.
- 11:25Speaker 2: They don't, you know what I mean?
- 11:27Speaker 3: Right. It's like.
- 11:29Speaker 6: Yeah, go on vacation. I watched the Blake Masters speech. He, uh,
- 11:33Speaker 6: I wrote this down. He, thank you, John.
- 11:36Speaker 4: He attacked Mark Kelly for being an astronaut, which was.
- 11:40Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 11:40Speaker 4: Isn't it like, that's not cool now. That's your opponent's strength.
- 11:44Speaker 5: That's what you should do.
- 11:45Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 11:45Speaker 6: He said he wanted to prosecute Dr. Fauci, I guess
- 11:48Speaker 6: for being a doctor and then said, if you don't
- 11:51Speaker 6: want your kid to be transgender, Democrats will call you
- 11:54Speaker 6: a domestic terrorist. Which is something I've never heard.
- 11:57Speaker 4: I did not know.
- 11:58Speaker 1: We did that. That was part of the thing.
- 11:59Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 12:00Speaker 1: All right. Well, everyone's got to help Mark Kelly. Great
- 12:02Speaker 1: senator from Arizona. And then Katie Hobbs wins. Got to
- 12:06Speaker 1: help her because Arizona is going to be very close.
- 12:08Speaker 1: And we could have some very crazy people representing Arizona
- 12:11Speaker 1: if Carrie Lake and Blake Masters win. Tommy, let's talk
- 12:15Speaker 1: about your boy, Steve Bannon. Yeah. Who may have to
- 12:19Speaker 1: take a 24-month hiatus from the War Room podcast. So
- 12:24Speaker 1: he celebrated his guilty verdict on Friday by bragging about
- 12:27Speaker 1: an Axios story that claims Trump plans to replace all
- 12:31Speaker 1: nonpartisan civil servants with MAGA loyalists if he becomes president again.
- 12:36Speaker 1: Can you talk about this? It's called Schedule F and
- 12:40Speaker 1: why this might be a cause for alarm.
- 12:42Speaker 5: So, yes.
- 12:43Speaker 6: I just want to start by saying that we stand
- 12:46Speaker 6: by Steve as a podcast.
- 12:47Speaker 4: Ha ha ha!
- 12:48Speaker 6: And that we will not speak into a microphone until
- 12:52Speaker 6: he is free. Dan and I have been planning some
- 12:54Speaker 6: sort of weather underground style prison break schemes and whatnot.
- 12:58Speaker 4: So this schedule left thing, it's very nerdy. It's very
- 13:00Speaker 4: in the weeds.
- 13:01Speaker 6: But think back to 2016. Take your brain back to
- 13:04Speaker 6: a simpler time. No one thought Donald Trump was going
- 13:07Speaker 6: to win.
- 13:07Speaker 1: Nobody.
- 13:08Speaker 6: Not even Donald Trump. So they were like, sir, you
- 13:10Speaker 6: have to plan a presidential transition. And they were like, ah,
- 13:13Speaker 6: fuck it. Let Chris Christie do it. So let Chris
- 13:15Speaker 6: Christie do it. And Chris Christie, being a dupe, was like,
- 13:18Speaker 6: let's think of lists of professional Republicans who are qualified
- 13:22Speaker 6: for the job, and they put together a big binder,
- 13:25Speaker 6: and they did this whole process. And then Trump won,
- 13:28Speaker 6: and the next day, I believe, Steve Bannon fired Chris
- 13:32Speaker 6: Christie and performatively threw the binder into the trash can,
- 13:36Speaker 6: literally in the office, and they started from scratch.
- 13:39Speaker 4: That will not happen this time around.
- 13:41Speaker 6: And so the obvious thing that will happen is the
- 13:45Speaker 6: first round of cabinet secretary types will be Devin Nunes
- 13:48Speaker 6: and Jim Jordan.
- 13:50Speaker 1: You clapping for that? The overstock guy.
- 13:53Speaker 4: And Matt Gaetz, the overstock guy, right.
- 13:56Speaker 6: But what Trump figured out during his four years in
- 13:59Speaker 6: the White House is that the lower levels of bureaucracy
- 14:04Speaker 6: can really slow you down. And so what they're planning
- 14:06Speaker 6: on doing is normally when a president takes office, you
- 14:09Speaker 6: get 4,000 so-called political hires across the government they have
- 14:13Speaker 6: figured out through this sort of creative evil way that
- 14:17Speaker 6: they think they can purge basically 50,000 people from the government,
- 14:23Speaker 6: career civil servants, like good people, professionals, serve under Republicans
- 14:27Speaker 6: and Democrats, and do a great job. And so that
- 14:32Speaker 6: might sound sort of like in the weeds and wonky,
- 14:34Speaker 6: but just imagine you have 50,000 Stephen Millers at the EPA,
- 14:39Speaker 6: The FBI, Department.
- 14:40Speaker 1: Of Justice, CIA, like DOD, all these places.
- 14:45Speaker 6: And so, you know, we were not saved in 2017,
- 14:50Speaker 6: but it helped us in 2017 that these guys didn't
- 14:52Speaker 6: know what they were doing and it took them a
- 14:54Speaker 6: while to get up and running. That will not be
- 14:56Speaker 6: the case if Trump wins again. And unfortunately, like your
- 15:00Speaker 6: only avenue to contest it is in the courts. And
- 15:03Speaker 6: now we have a bunch of MAGA judges running around.
- 15:05Speaker 6: So look, it's, maybe not that high on the list
- 15:08Speaker 6: of things we should worry about about Trump winning again.
- 15:10Speaker 1: But it's up there. It's up there. We've got to
- 15:12Speaker 1: save the deep state.
- 15:13Speaker 4: Anyway, stand with Steve. Save the deep state.
- 15:17Speaker 1: The deepest state of all. Save the deep state.
- 15:21Speaker 2: Can I just say about Steve Bannon, it's weird for me,
- 15:25Speaker 2: but I sort of miss the simpler days when he
- 15:28Speaker 2: was just like an Islamophobe.
- 15:31Speaker 3: And I say that as a Muslim, right? Like, where
- 15:35Speaker 3: are my Muslims at? Like, that was easier, right?
- 15:37Speaker 2: It was just better when he was just like a
- 15:39Speaker 2: Breitbart Islamophobe.
- 15:41Speaker 3: This sounds so much scarier.
- 15:43Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 15:44Speaker 1: Now he's ripping up the government and installing a bunch
- 15:46Speaker 1: of wackos.
- 15:47Speaker 4: He's an arsonist.
- 15:49Speaker 1: It's not good. But anyway, he'll be in jail for
- 15:50Speaker 1: two years.
- 15:51Speaker 4: Maybe.
- 15:51Speaker 1: We'll see. All right. We'll be back with more news
- 15:53Speaker 1: in a bit. Now it's time once again to scream
- 15:57Speaker 1: at the news with a game that we call OK Stop.
- 15:59Speaker 1: OK Stop. We're going to narrow that universal plea down
- 16:07Speaker 1: to one hand-selected clip, which we will all get to
- 16:09Speaker 1: watch right now. I'll call the first okay stop, and
- 16:11Speaker 1: then after that, ladies and gentlemen, it's Saturday night, go nuts.
- 16:16Speaker 1: Just to set this up, we are about to watch
- 16:18Speaker 1: an actual Trump blooper reel, aired by the January 6th
- 16:22Speaker 1: committee and expertly curated by Crooked Media's video team. You
- 16:26Speaker 1: guys know this one. And it'll give you a behind-the-scenes
- 16:31Speaker 1: glimpse at the former president's attempt to formulate a response
- 16:33Speaker 1: to the insurrection... This is, of course, different from the
- 16:37Speaker 1: constant Trump blooper reel that we've been watching every day
- 16:40Speaker 1: of our fucking lives since 2015. You guys ready?
- 16:45Speaker 9: Mm-hmm.
- 16:46Speaker 1: Let's roll.
- 16:47Speaker 5: We have to have law and order.
- 16:49Speaker 10: We have to respect our great people in law and order.
- 16:53Speaker 10: To those who broke the law, you will pay. You
- 16:58Speaker 10: do not represent our movement. You do not represent our country.
- 17:02Speaker 4: And if you broke the law.
- 17:04Speaker 10: Can't say that.
- 17:06Speaker 1: Okay, stop. You don't want to get too tough on
- 17:12Speaker 1: those lawbreakers. This is Donald Trump that we're talking about.
- 17:17Speaker 4: Can't say that. Can't say they broke the law.
- 17:19Speaker 5: Especially not if you're planning on pardoning them.
- 17:21Speaker 4: Beating the shit out of cops on TV.
- 17:22Speaker 1: Can't say that. Can't say that.
- 17:23Speaker 5: You already said.
- 17:24Speaker 10: You will pay. The demonstrators who infiltrated the Capitol have defied.
- 17:30Speaker 5: The seat of dust. It's defiled, right?
- 17:32Speaker 10: See, I can't see it very well.
- 17:34Speaker 2: He's like, I can't see it very well.
- 17:39Speaker 3: There's ketchup smeared.
- 17:41Speaker 2: On the screen for some reason.
- 17:43Speaker 3: I don't know why.
- 17:45Speaker 6: Hey, Donald, we saw it. The QAnon shaman took a
- 17:48Speaker 6: shit in it. We saw the defiling that you somehow missed.
- 17:53Speaker 10: This election is now over. Congress has certified the results.
- 17:57Speaker 5: I don't want to say the election's over.
- 17:59Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we know. We are well aware.
- 18:04Speaker 5: Donald Trump, don't worry. At the end of every election,
- 18:07Speaker 5: there's a new election.
- 18:09Speaker 4: Don't cry because it's over. Laugh because it happened.
- 18:15Speaker 10: To begin by addressing the heinous attack yesterday.
- 18:19Speaker 5: Yesterday is a hard word for me.
- 18:22Speaker 10: Just take it out.
- 18:23Speaker 8: The heinous attack.
- 18:25Speaker 5: Ah, good.
- 18:25Speaker 10: Take the word yesterday because it doesn't work with... The
- 18:29Speaker 10: heinous attack.
- 18:30Speaker 1: Okay, stop.
- 18:31Speaker 5: Do you think Mike Pence's attack on the past was
- 18:34Speaker 5: a reference to the yesterday gate?
- 18:39Speaker 3: He's like acting like yesterday. It's like yesterday. It's not
- 18:42Speaker 3: a difficult word.
- 18:43Speaker 2: He's acting like we're asking him to say like loquacious
- 18:47Speaker 2: or impeachment for the incitement of insurrection or.
- 18:52Speaker 6: It's objectively not a hard word to say.
- 18:55Speaker 1: He also said it fine. Also, I didn't know until
- 18:58Speaker 1: I watched this version of it that Ivanka has this
- 19:01Speaker 1: genius idea in the back. She's like, take it out.
- 19:03Speaker 1: Take the word yes out.
- 19:04Speaker 5: He's like, yes. That is by far the most Ivanka
- 19:09Speaker 5: thing possible.
- 19:10Speaker 4: Dad, just say the day before today.
- 19:14Speaker 2: I love that her job is running teleprompter.
- 19:20Speaker 3: That was her job those four years.
- 19:23Speaker 1: Can we give her something to do? No one to
- 19:25Speaker 1: be found.
- 19:25Speaker 5: During the insurrection, but she was right there at the teleprompter.
- 19:28Speaker 4: You know what's a hard word? Bureaucracy. Spell that fucking thing.
- 19:32Speaker 1: Yesterday. Anyway.
- 19:35Speaker 5: On our country.
- 19:36Speaker 10: Say on our country.
- 19:38Speaker 5: Want to say that?
- 19:38Speaker 7: No.
- 19:39Speaker 10: My only goal was to ensure the integrity of the vote.
- 19:43Speaker 10: My only goal was to ensure the integrity of the vote.
- 19:52Speaker 6: So it turns out that he was actually slapping the
- 19:54Speaker 6: podium there because the ketchup attracted a lot of ants.
- 19:59Speaker 1: So that's the backstory.
- 20:00Speaker 2: But also the word that was tripping him up here
- 20:03Speaker 2: was the. The vote, the vote, their vote.
- 20:09Speaker 1: Take out the word the.
- 20:11Speaker 5: I've literally never said the word integrity before in my life. Ivanka,
- 20:18Speaker 5: what does this mean?
- 20:19Speaker 1: Into greedy, into greedy, into what?
- 20:21Speaker 5: Into journey.
- 20:22Speaker 6: This doesn't work well on a podcast, but the snapping
- 20:25Speaker 6: wrist motion is so strange.
- 20:26Speaker 2: It was very like Travolta in Saturday Night Fever.
- 20:30Speaker 4: Why was he doing that?
- 20:31Speaker 9: Very.
- 20:31Speaker 1: Why? Very out of character. I guess not.
- 20:35Speaker 2: Actually, surprised by how much wrist dexterity he had. This
- 20:40Speaker 2: is actually one of the positive moments of his presidency.
- 20:43Speaker 1: Maybe he could have reached for the Secret Service.
- 20:45Speaker 5: That's exactly right.
- 20:46Speaker 1: Now I'm thinking he could have done it.
- 20:49Speaker 5: That's how he hit that Diet Coke button.
- 20:54Speaker 1: I think that's it. Is that it? That's it. That's okay.
- 20:57Speaker 6: Stop.
- 20:57Speaker 1: All right. All right, let's talk some more news. Now
- 21:05Speaker 1: that Justice Clarence Thomas and other radical conservatives have made
- 21:09Speaker 1: clear that they believe the Supreme Court should reconsider its
- 21:12Speaker 1: decisions on the right to marry and the right to
- 21:14Speaker 1: use birth control, House Democrats... I know, I know. And
- 21:18Speaker 1: that's where we're going to talk about it. House Democrats
- 21:22Speaker 1: have held votes on legislation that would guarantee the federal
- 21:25Speaker 1: recognition of same-sex marriages and the right to purchase and
- 21:28Speaker 1: use contraception without government restriction... Here in the year of
- 21:32Speaker 1: our Lord, 2022. So, Tommy, 47 House Republicans voted in
- 21:38Speaker 1: favor of the same-sex marriage bill, but so far... Yeah,
- 21:41Speaker 1: clap for them. That's great. But so far, only five
- 21:44Speaker 1: Senate Republicans have said they're likely to support it. Many
- 21:47Speaker 1: others have said it's, quote, unnecessary. Meanwhile, some Democrats are
- 21:51Speaker 1: reluctant to schedule a vote until they know they have
- 21:53Speaker 1: at least 10 Republicans on board. Why is this bill necessary,
- 21:57Speaker 1: and do you think that Chuck Schumer should schedule the
- 22:00Speaker 1: vote no matter what?
- 22:01Speaker 6: So the vote would help pass a law that would
- 22:05Speaker 6: require states and the federal government to recognize same-sex marriages.
- 22:10Speaker 6: The reason we need to do this is because, as
- 22:11Speaker 6: you mentioned at the top, Clarence Thomas said in his
- 22:14Speaker 6: dissent on the Dobbs ruling that stripped away abortion rights
- 22:18Speaker 6: from half the country that he thinks that Obergefell was
- 22:23Speaker 6: wrongly decided and wants to overturn it, which would overturn
- 22:26Speaker 6: same-sex marriage. So I think the debate for Chuck Schumer
- 22:29Speaker 6: is basically If I put this vote on the floor,
- 22:32Speaker 6: will we have enough votes? And if we don't have
- 22:34Speaker 6: enough votes, will the Democrats get blamed because we then
- 22:39Speaker 6: can't have a plan B and get rid of the
- 22:41Speaker 6: filibuster to do this because Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema
- 22:44Speaker 6: drive us all crazy?
- 22:46Speaker 1: Then we're back in the Manchin.
- 22:48Speaker 4: My argument would be schedule the vote. Maybe we can.
- 22:54Speaker 6: Maybe we can get something really good done. And if
- 22:57Speaker 6: we can't, 70% of the country supports same-sex marriage. So
- 23:02Speaker 6: let's make a bunch of Republicans take a really hard vote.
- 23:07Speaker 6: And the reason we know it's a really hard vote
- 23:10Speaker 6: is because Republicans are saying hilariously stupid things in an
- 23:14Speaker 6: effort to not respond to the question of whether or
- 23:17Speaker 6: not they'll support this vote.
- 23:18Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 23:18Speaker 1: And I think I think you got to call their
- 23:20Speaker 1: bluff because like one of the five Republicans who said
- 23:23Speaker 1: that they're likely to support this is Ron Johnson of Wisconsin.
- 23:28Speaker 1: And like, yeah. Now, why is Ron Johnson saying he's
- 23:32Speaker 1: likely to support it? Because he's in a very competitive
- 23:35Speaker 1: Senate race in Wisconsin and he knows that this is
- 23:37Speaker 1: a very popular thing to do. So, like, I actually
- 23:39Speaker 1: think if he puts it on the floor. Some Republicans
- 23:43Speaker 1: want to get away with not giving their position right now.
- 23:45Speaker 1: Schumer puts this on the floor. I don't know. What
- 23:48Speaker 1: do you think, Dan?
- 23:49Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 23:50Speaker 5: If it will pass or not, but it puts people
- 23:53Speaker 5: like Ron Johnson, every Republican in the country, to choose
- 23:56Speaker 5: between the opinions of the overwhelming majority of Americans and
- 24:01Speaker 5: the radical right-wing extremists that control their party. This is
- 24:06Speaker 5: why McConnell does not want this to happen. He does
- 24:08Speaker 5: not want this to happen because he does not want
- 24:10Speaker 5: to have it fail and have 80% of his Republicans
- 24:14Speaker 5: vote against it or have it pass and have the
- 24:18Speaker 5: radical right wing think he sold out. And so when
- 24:21Speaker 5: you are in that position, when you have your opponent
- 24:24Speaker 5: in that position, you have to exploit that tension, right?
- 24:27Speaker 5: Not walk away from it.
- 24:28Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 24:29Speaker 1: So, uh, McGee and the, uh, the contraception bill has
- 24:34Speaker 1: not fared quite as well. Uh, only eight house Republicans
- 24:37Speaker 1: voted for it, including our new queen, Liz Cheney. And
- 24:45Speaker 1: the New York Times reports that the contraception bill, they
- 24:48Speaker 1: don't think it will get 10 votes in the Senate.
- 24:51Speaker 1: Considering that 90% of the public supports birth control, which
- 24:54Speaker 1: is even more than the 70% who support same-sex marriage,
- 24:59Speaker 1: why do you think Republicans are so opposed to this
- 25:02Speaker 1: bill to just guarantee the right to contraception?
- 25:05Speaker 3: That's a really good question.
- 25:07Speaker 2: Is it because reckless raw-dogging is part of the Republican platform?
- 25:12Speaker 3: I don't... Is it? I mean, it's like a legitimate question.
- 25:15Speaker 1: I think we got an episode title.
- 25:18Speaker 4: Trump is standard bear.
- 25:20Speaker 1: Live from Portland.
- 25:31Speaker 3: What I love about this bill is.
- 25:34Speaker 2: That I know that Republican senators were literally standing in
- 25:40Speaker 2: line at the pharmacy to get their birth control done.
- 25:43Speaker 3: While they were reading this bill.
- 25:45Speaker 1: You know?
- 25:45Speaker 2: They're like, sorry, I can't make it to the Senate
- 25:48Speaker 2: chambers right now.
- 25:49Speaker 3: I'm getting my IUD implanted.
- 25:52Speaker 2: And it's like, you guys, come on.
- 25:58Speaker 3: At this point, I want us to put.
- 26:00Speaker 2: everything up for a vote. I want contraception. I want
- 26:03Speaker 2: same-sex marriage. I want interracial marriage. I want capri pants.
- 26:07Speaker 2: I want cupcakes.
- 26:08Speaker 3: I want us to go on record about everything.
- 26:14Speaker 1: It is.
- 26:15Speaker 4: This is confusing to me.
- 26:17Speaker 1: I don't get why there are... Republicans are calling the
- 26:19Speaker 1: bill a Trojan horse.
- 26:21Speaker 5: No pun intended.
- 26:23Speaker 4: See what you did there, John.
- 26:25Speaker 5: Get out of here.
- 26:26Speaker 1: You're fired. Get out of here.
- 26:28Speaker 7: I think she.
- 26:30Speaker 4: I did not think about that.
- 26:31Speaker 5: I think they're going to call it Schumer's magnum opus.
- 26:33Speaker 4: It is so funny imagining them voting on this. Chuck
- 26:40Speaker 4: Raskin's like, erections?
- 26:41Speaker 6: This went out of style in the 70s.
- 26:46Speaker 1: No, I guess they're upset that some of the money
- 26:49Speaker 1: in this bill would provide funding or guarantee funding to
- 26:52Speaker 1: Planned Parenthood. And so they think, even though it would
- 26:56Speaker 1: be for Planned Parenthood providing contraception and not abortion, they
- 26:59Speaker 1: think it's, they don't want anything close. That's why they're,
- 27:01Speaker 1: that's why Republicans are against it.
- 27:02Speaker 5: I mean, it is wild that you can't get 10
- 27:05Speaker 5: Republicans to support contraception.
- 27:07Speaker 1: I mean.
- 27:07Speaker 5: It's wild.
- 27:08Speaker 1: I was just like, okay, Dan, like, what do you
- 27:10Speaker 1: think of the overall political strategy of putting these bills
- 27:13Speaker 1: up for a vote, including maybe Capri Pants? You wrote
- 27:18Speaker 1: a message box last week about Democrats advancing a freedom
- 27:21Speaker 1: agenda and Can you talk about that, and are there
- 27:24Speaker 1: other issues that you think Democrats should be holding votes
- 27:26Speaker 1: like this on between now and November?
- 27:29Speaker 5: Yeah, I think ultimately where you want to be in
- 27:32Speaker 5: politics always is having the election focus on issues that
- 27:35Speaker 5: unite your base and divide theirs. Generally, that is populist
- 27:39Speaker 5: economics for Democrats, but the Republicans have gone so far
- 27:44Speaker 5: out of the mainstream on these issues that they've created
- 27:47Speaker 5: this tremendous opportunity, right? They've sort of been opened up
- 27:50Speaker 5: by the Dobbs decisions. And so my argument is we
- 27:53Speaker 5: want to have, as Nagin said, all of these votes.
- 27:56Speaker 5: You want to have them all because we want to
- 27:57Speaker 5: do everything we possibly can to focus the electorate's attention
- 28:01Speaker 5: on this radical, extreme, right-wing minority that is trying to
- 28:06Speaker 5: dictate individual people's personal choices. And so I argued in
- 28:11Speaker 5: this message box, this newsletter I write, that we should
- 28:14Speaker 5: brand it as a freedom agenda, like our version of
- 28:16Speaker 5: the Contract for America, just as a way to get
- 28:18Speaker 5: people to pay attention because it's like, you know, this
- 28:21Speaker 5: is all happening so fast, right? The House is voting
- 28:24Speaker 5: on bills to codify Roe and to allow people to
- 28:26Speaker 5: travel within states and they're doing contraception and same-sex marriage
- 28:29Speaker 5: and it's all happening so fast. And only like one
- 28:31Speaker 5: of the rules of politics is, it's sort of an
- 28:33Speaker 5: old adage, which is tell people what you're going to
- 28:36Speaker 5: tell them, tell them, then tell them what you told them, right?
- 28:39Speaker 5: And so like framing this under an agenda that would
- 28:43Speaker 5: allow people to understand what this was. And I argued
- 28:45Speaker 5: that we have an opportunity to reclaim freedom as a
- 28:49Speaker 5: value in our party because of what the Republicans are doing.
- 28:52Speaker 5: And you could do it. And it helps solve what
- 28:57Speaker 5: I think is one of the challenges for Democrats is
- 28:58Speaker 5: we have, it's like a very target-rich environment for Democrats.
- 29:02Speaker 5: There are a lot of things we can run on,
- 29:03Speaker 5: but they sort of feel disconnected from each other. It's like,
- 29:05Speaker 5: how do we run against the Republicans for wanting to
- 29:07Speaker 5: get rid of Social Security and Medicare and just being
- 29:09Speaker 5: sort of corporatists? How do we run against them for
- 29:12Speaker 5: trying to, you know, banning abortion, banning books, banning gay marriage?
- 29:15Speaker 5: And then also on the other side here, we have
- 29:17Speaker 5: them just planning future insurrections.
- 29:19Speaker 4: Don't point at me when you say that kind of shit.
- 29:22Speaker 5: It was in the general direction of you and Steve
- 29:24Speaker 5: Bannon and the war room people over here. And so
- 29:29Speaker 5: I thought the one way to do that is you
- 29:30Speaker 5: could do a freedom agenda, which would have economic freedom,
- 29:33Speaker 5: which you could get to protect Social Security and Medicare,
- 29:35Speaker 5: $ 15 minimum wage, personal freedom, which could be abortion, gay marriage, contraception,
- 29:39Speaker 5: and then democratic freedom, which could be voting rights, stopping insurrections,
- 29:43Speaker 5: ethics reform in Congress, like stopping members of Congress trading.
- 29:47Speaker 1: It's funny that like Like stopping insurrections just slid right
- 29:52Speaker 1: there between voting rights and ethics reform. We used to
- 29:56Speaker 1: talk about it for a while. It's like now we
- 29:57Speaker 1: have to stop insurrections.
- 29:58Speaker 5: Well, I didn't want to say electoral count reform because
- 30:00Speaker 5: that was really boring. So stopping insurrections gets more attention.
- 30:04Speaker 6: This is a tough morning after pill to swallow for
- 30:09Speaker 6: Republicans in swing districts.
- 30:11Speaker 1: Don't you think?
- 30:14Speaker 3: You guys can leave. No, I know. We've done the
- 30:17Speaker 3: terrible job.
- 30:19Speaker 4: I don't like me either. It's fine.
- 30:21Speaker 1: Before you leave, though, you too can be messengers in
- 30:23Speaker 1: this election. It's very important. Everyone, if you haven't already,
- 30:26Speaker 1: please go to votesaveamerica.com. Sign up for Midterm Madness. We
- 30:31Speaker 1: need all the help we can get. It's going to
- 30:32Speaker 1: be a very competitive election. And we've got these Republicans
- 30:35Speaker 1: out there wanting to take away birth control and overturn
- 30:38Speaker 1: same-sex marriage. So we need all the help. Go to votesaveamerica.com.
- 30:42Speaker 1: And speaking of activism, during this tour, we have been
- 30:46Speaker 1: inviting local activists on stage to tell us about the
- 30:49Speaker 1: fantastic work that they're doing. Tonight, we are so glad
- 30:53Speaker 1: to have Grayson Dempsey from Lilith Clinic here in Portland,
- 30:56Speaker 1: which provides abortion procedures, is the only independent clinic in
- 31:00Speaker 1: the state. Grayson, come on out.
- 31:05Speaker 2: Hi.
- 31:05Speaker 8: Thank you so much for having me.
- 31:09Speaker 11: Thanks for coming.
- 31:10Speaker 4: Thank you.
- 31:12Speaker 1: I'm so happy to be here.
- 31:13Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 31:14Speaker 8: My name is Grayson Dempsey, and I am so proud
- 31:18Speaker 8: to represent Oregon's only independent abortion clinic, the Lilith Clinic,
- 31:22Speaker 8: which is here in downtown Portland. It has been a bleak,
- 31:27Speaker 8: bleak few weeks, and it's just an honor to be
- 31:30Speaker 8: able to be here talking about the work that we do.
- 31:33Speaker 8: First of all, I'm going to assume that everybody knows this,
- 31:35Speaker 8: but abortion is still legal in Oregon. And we are
- 31:42Speaker 8: going to keep fighting to make sure that it stays
- 31:44Speaker 8: that way. We didn't come by these rights by accident.
- 31:47Speaker 8: We've been working for years here in Oregon to make
- 31:50Speaker 8: sure that we have elected leaders at every level of
- 31:52Speaker 8: government who are proactive and passionate about making sure that
- 31:56Speaker 8: we advance abortion rights. Five years ago here in Oregon,
- 31:59Speaker 8: we passed the Reproductive Health Equity Act. which not only
- 32:02Speaker 8: codified the right to legal abortion, but made sure that
- 32:05Speaker 8: that right wasn't dependent on your income, on your zip code,
- 32:09Speaker 8: on your citizenship status, or on your gender marker. And
- 32:14Speaker 8: it's because of efforts like these and people like you
- 32:17Speaker 8: that we are now a haven for over half the
- 32:20Speaker 8: country who is needing to access abortion care. And I
- 32:24Speaker 8: couldn't be frankly prouder to be an Oregonian At the
- 32:27Speaker 8: same time, my heart is broken for the state of
- 32:30Speaker 8: our country, and I really recognize that the Dobbs decision
- 32:34Speaker 8: shows us that no one is safe from the kind
- 32:36Speaker 8: of harm that is inflicted by abortion bans. I know
- 32:41Speaker 8: you know this, but the political road ahead of us
- 32:42Speaker 8: is really long. There's a big fight ahead of us.
- 32:45Speaker 8: We don't know when we're going to win that fight.
- 32:47Speaker 8: But the thing in the meantime that we need to
- 32:48Speaker 8: make sure that we do is make sure that everybody
- 32:50Speaker 8: who needs abortion.
- 32:51Speaker 7: Care can get it.
- 32:53Speaker 8: And so as long as people need abortion care, we're
- 32:56Speaker 8: going to be here. We're going to be here providing
- 32:58Speaker 8: abortion care because abortion is health care and no one
- 33:01Speaker 8: should have to leave their communities or travel hundreds or
- 33:04Speaker 8: thousands of miles to get what is basic health care.
- 33:10Speaker 8: Clinics like ours across the country are working collectively to
- 33:15Speaker 8: ease the burden, but the reality is that many people
- 33:18Speaker 8: are going to have to travel. And for those who
- 33:21Speaker 8: have to travel, the financial burden can feel insurmountable. At
- 33:25Speaker 8: Lilith Clinic, we work closely with local and national abortion
- 33:28Speaker 8: funds to try to ease this burden. But no one
- 33:31Speaker 8: should have to choose between paying for an abortion or
- 33:33Speaker 8: choosing between things like rent and groceries. So tonight, I
- 33:37Speaker 8: want to talk to you about something that you can
- 33:38Speaker 8: do to directly impact abortion care. At the Lilith Clinic,
- 33:42Speaker 8: we wouldn't be able to do what we do without
- 33:44Speaker 8: the really brave and amazing physicians at Oregon Health and
- 33:47Speaker 8: Science University or OHSU. We're so grateful. who staff our
- 33:54Speaker 8: clinic and provide a really important backstop for us to
- 33:58Speaker 8: refer the most complex cases to their care. OHSU has
- 34:02Speaker 8: set up the Abortion Care and Training, or the ACT Fund,
- 34:06Speaker 8: which is specifically there to not only cover the cost
- 34:09Speaker 8: of care for abortion patients, and especially those who need
- 34:13Speaker 8: more complex care, who may need overnight care, follow-up treatment,
- 34:16Speaker 8: and may not be covered by typical abortion funds, but
- 34:20Speaker 8: also does something really unique in that it trains, the
- 34:22Speaker 8: fund is there to train the next generation of abortion providers.
- 34:26Speaker 8: We know, which is incredible, that deserves applause for sure.
- 34:32Speaker 8: We know that eventually we are going to flip state
- 34:35Speaker 8: houses and we are going to win back the Supreme Court.
- 34:38Speaker 8: But if there's nobody there to provide abortions, then that's
- 34:42Speaker 8: going to be meaningless. Right now we have a generation
- 34:45Speaker 8: of doctors and clinicians who have been training and we
- 34:47Speaker 8: need to keep that going. So the ACT Fund is
- 34:49Speaker 8: set up to train providers from states where abortion has
- 34:52Speaker 8: been banned to give them the essential gynecological skills that
- 34:55Speaker 8: they need to not only provide abortion care, but things
- 34:57Speaker 8: like miscarriage management and other life-saving skills that are so essential.
- 35:06Speaker 8: The last thing I'll say is just that time doesn't
- 35:08Speaker 8: wait for political change. There were people needing abortions every
- 35:11Speaker 8: single day before the Dobbs decision, and there have been
- 35:13Speaker 8: people needing abortions every single day since the Dobbs decision.
- 35:18Speaker 8: Everybody here knows and loves somebody who has had an abortion.
- 35:22Speaker 8: Everybody here's life has been affected by abortion. Whether or
- 35:26Speaker 8: not you've had an abortion or just lived a life
- 35:28Speaker 8: with the freedom of knowing that you're not going to
- 35:30Speaker 8: be forced into pregnancy or parenting, abortion has touched your life.
- 35:35Speaker 8: And our children and our grandchildren are going to need
- 35:38Speaker 8: the right to safe abortion. So we need to not
- 35:40Speaker 8: only stay committed to the kind of work that we're doing,
- 35:43Speaker 8: which is electing people who are committed to to advancing
- 35:46Speaker 8: abortion rights, but also making sure that reproductive freedom, reproductive
- 35:50Speaker 8: justice is at the center of our political values. We
- 35:52Speaker 8: really need to make sure we are building an infrastructure
- 35:54Speaker 8: for every single person to get the care that they need.
- 36:05Speaker 8: I was really nervous tonight. You guys are making this
- 36:07Speaker 8: really easy.
- 36:08Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 36:13Speaker 7: Thank you.
- 36:15Speaker 8: I want to say if you're here at the merchandise table,
- 36:17Speaker 8: there are cards with a QR code that'll give you
- 36:20Speaker 8: a link directly to donate. If you are listening, the
- 36:22Speaker 8: link will be online. And I just really want to
- 36:25Speaker 8: thank you so much for your commitment. Thank you to
- 36:27Speaker 8: Pod Save America for having me. It's really a pleasure
- 36:30Speaker 8: and we're in this fight together. Thank you.
- 36:34Speaker 1: Give it up for Grayson. When we come back Your
- 36:45Speaker 1: next Democratic member of Congress from Oregon, Jamie McLeod-Skinner.
- 37:02Speaker 5: Please welcome to the stage the next Congresswoman from the
- 37:05Speaker 5: 5th District of Oregon, Jamie McLeod-Skinner. It appears you have
- 37:18Speaker 5: some fans here tonight.
- 37:21Speaker 11: It's not about me, it's about them. All I do
- 37:23Speaker 11: is hold up a mirror. We got some amazing folks
- 37:26Speaker 11: in the 5th and throughout Oregon. And folks just want
- 37:29Speaker 11: to get it done. So thank you all for being here.
- 37:34Speaker 5: So you made the decision to take on a longtime incumbent,
- 37:38Speaker 5: backed by the National Party, well-funded. Tell us about how
- 37:43Speaker 5: you made that decision and then how you won that race.
- 37:48Speaker 7: Well, it all comes down to the why.
- 37:49Speaker 11: And for me, when I was eight years old, my
- 37:53Speaker 11: mom told me to always leave a place better than
- 37:54Speaker 11: I found it. And back then, she was a single
- 37:57Speaker 11: mom with two kids. She'd get up early to drive
- 38:00Speaker 11: a school bus. She'd teach all day. She drove a
- 38:02Speaker 11: school bus home. And the summers, she was a farm worker.
- 38:05Speaker 11: She picked fruit to put food on her table.
- 38:09Speaker 7: I so admire her. And we see Oregonians like that
- 38:12Speaker 7: across the district. People are hurting.
- 38:14Speaker 11: These are tough times where our homes are literally burning down.
- 38:18Speaker 11: and then also our democracy's at risk. You've been talking
- 38:21Speaker 11: about that a lot, and I'm up against an election denier.
- 38:23Speaker 11: So that's the work that needs to get done. I
- 38:26Speaker 11: began my public service over in Bosnia and Kosovo. I
- 38:30Speaker 11: did not serve in uniform. It was back in the day.
- 38:32Speaker 11: I had come out as a young adult. As I
- 38:34Speaker 11: say in rural areas, that's how God made me. God
- 38:36Speaker 11: doesn't make mistakes. But it was back in the day.
- 38:43Speaker 11: And so I worked for a humanitarian organization repairing.
- 38:46Speaker 7: Schools and hospitals in Bosnia and Kosovo.
- 38:48Speaker 11: And so January 6th, which you were talking about, I've
- 38:51Speaker 11: seen what happens if that would have succeeded.
- 38:56Speaker 7: And so there's so much at stake. And there's that. Also,
- 38:59Speaker 7: a lot of people reached out and asked me to run.
- 39:00Speaker 5: And in the course of that race, it's never easy
- 39:05Speaker 5: to be taking on incumbent. Most people who take on
- 39:07Speaker 5: incumbents lose. What was key to your strategy to winning?
- 39:12Speaker 5: What was the political environment, the issues? How did you
- 39:16Speaker 5: approach it?
- 39:19Speaker 7: Grassroots right there.
- 39:20Speaker 11: Well, it's it's simply show up you listen with respect
- 39:23Speaker 11: you hear people are talking about what people are concerned
- 39:25Speaker 11: about and Then you do that. I mean, that's what
- 39:28Speaker 11: public that's what public service is is. And so I
- 39:31Speaker 11: can say, and that was true in the primary when
- 39:33Speaker 11: we were talking to Democrats. It's true now as well
- 39:35Speaker 11: in the general. You know, regardless of party affiliation, we
- 39:39Speaker 11: all want to be able to have a roof over
- 39:40Speaker 11: our head and food on our table. We want opportunities
- 39:43Speaker 11: for our kids. We want health care for our families
- 39:45Speaker 11: when they're sick. We don't want our homes to burn down.
- 39:47Speaker 11: We don't want our family farms going under. And those
- 39:49Speaker 11: are the basic issues. So whether it was lowering prescription
- 39:52Speaker 11: drug prices. Also a shout out to our teachers, because
- 39:58Speaker 11: my mom's a retired teacher.
- 40:00Speaker 5: Mine too.
- 40:04Speaker 11: But it's showing up and addressing the challenges that working families,
- 40:08Speaker 11: working people are facing. And in terms of resources, we're
- 40:11Speaker 11: heavily outspent. I don't take corporate PAC money, because I
- 40:14Speaker 11: believe in accountability to voters. But even in this first quarter,
- 40:21Speaker 11: I actually, and I'm running against a MAGA Republican. I
- 40:24Speaker 11: out-raised her, and she's heavily self-funded. And 96% of our
- 40:29Speaker 11: contributions were low-dollar donations.
- 40:31Speaker 7: So it's about working for folks.
- 40:36Speaker 5: When people take on and defeat incumbents, it's always a
- 40:38Speaker 5: little bit uncomfortable because you've just beaten the colleague of
- 40:42Speaker 5: the people who you're now trying to join. How has
- 40:45Speaker 5: the national party been, the DCCC, the congressional leadership, to
- 40:48Speaker 5: you and your campaign since your victory?
- 40:51Speaker 11: They've totally embraced us. And that's because there is so
- 40:54Speaker 11: much at stake. I mean, there's some folks in the
- 40:58Speaker 11: Democratic Party that I'm more aligned to. Some folks we have.
- 41:03Speaker 11: It's really a different approach to the same fundamental things.
- 41:07Speaker 11: And it's about showing up and taking care of people.
- 41:09Speaker 11: That's why I'm a Democrat. I think that's what the
- 41:11Speaker 11: Democratic Party is doing. And that's why we need to
- 41:13Speaker 11: elect Democrats, especially this cycle.
- 41:16Speaker 5: So your race has received a lot of national coverage.
- 41:19Speaker 5: It's been a lot of punditry about it. And it
- 41:23Speaker 5: is framed in this way of progressive versus centrist. And
- 41:28Speaker 5: it's treated in the same category as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's victories
- 41:34Speaker 5: or Ayanna Pressley's or Cori Bush's. I feel like these
- 41:38Speaker 5: national labels from people who write about the race and
- 41:40Speaker 5: talk about the race who probably never stepped foot in
- 41:42Speaker 5: Oregon during the race doesn't really represent how things really went.
- 41:49Speaker 5: Do you define yourself as a progressive? What kind of
- 41:52Speaker 5: progressive are you? How do you want people to think
- 41:55Speaker 5: of you and your approach to this district?
- 41:58Speaker 11: So I have traveled thousands of miles across Oregon. I've
- 42:02Speaker 11: met with thousands of folks. And with all due respect
- 42:06Speaker 11: to polling, I, the things I'm talking about are things.
- 42:10Speaker 5: No one has respect for polling.
- 42:11Speaker 1: Okay.
- 42:14Speaker 11: So that's the, that's the, um, the, the diplomat in
- 42:17Speaker 11: me saying that you've always got to, like someone once said,
- 42:20Speaker 11: you can say anything you want about someone as long
- 42:22Speaker 11: as you start with bless their pee pick in the heart.
- 42:25Speaker 11: So that's kind of that piece. But you know, I,
- 42:28Speaker 11: my platform is based what I've heard from Oregonians. That's
- 42:31Speaker 11: what folks need. And, You know, I've met some rural
- 42:34Speaker 11: conservative Republicans who would make progressives blush with what they're suggesting.
- 42:39Speaker 7: And we've seen that a lot, right?
- 42:40Speaker 11: That, you know, you meet folks who hated Obamacare but
- 42:43Speaker 11: loved the ACA. So a lot of it comes down
- 42:45Speaker 11: to language when we're talking about. Hey, we've all got those.
- 42:48Speaker 7: Buttons, I'll say. So, you know, it's true. So it
- 42:52Speaker 7: comes down to the basic things.
- 42:53Speaker 11: Again, roof over your head, food on your table, opportunities
- 42:57Speaker 11: for our kids, and, you know, health care for our families,
- 43:01Speaker 11: addressing poverty. So we're talking about wildfire and our farms
- 43:06Speaker 11: going under. That's climate change. So in urban areas, we'll
- 43:08Speaker 11: talk about addressing the climate crisis. In rural areas, we'll
- 43:11Speaker 11: just use different language. We're talking about the same thing.
- 43:14Speaker 11: But it's doing those things. And so whatever that is,
- 43:17Speaker 11: sign me up. Call me whatever you want. That's what
- 43:19Speaker 11: I'm working on.
- 43:25Speaker 1: So.
- 43:27Speaker 5: Not to be like the national pundits that I just
- 43:30Speaker 5: cried seconds ago, but I am actually in Oregon, so
- 43:32Speaker 5: I guess that's slightly better.
- 43:33Speaker 4: But I read that the.
- 43:34Speaker 5: Primary was shaped by many hyperlocal issues, including the correct
- 43:39Speaker 5: manner for bucking hay. Tell me more about that, and
- 43:43Speaker 5: what is the correct way to buck hay? And why
- 43:46Speaker 5: was that an issue in this race?
- 43:49Speaker 11: That was really, that came up about being, this question
- 43:53Speaker 11: about being genuine and being authentic. And as a kid,
- 43:57Speaker 11: I bucked hay. You wear gloves when you buck hay,
- 43:59Speaker 11: otherwise you rip up your hands. I also shoveled a
- 44:04Speaker 11: lot of horse manure. And I've been told that that's
- 44:09Speaker 11: a great experience for being in politics. But actually, it
- 44:17Speaker 11: was my mom and my father-in-law, who both live in
- 44:21Speaker 11: Central Oregon, who saw those flyers that came out and
- 44:24Speaker 11: were saying, wait a minute, this is not legit. My
- 44:27Speaker 11: wife's family comes from a ranching family in Eastern Oregon.
- 44:31Speaker 11: We had about 18 acres that we would hay, and
- 44:35Speaker 11: so I bucked hay as a kid. And we also
- 44:38Speaker 11: had about 50 head of sheep. My wife and I
- 44:41Speaker 11: live in Central Oregon. We've got a couple. Central Oregon,
- 44:44Speaker 11: shout out.
- 44:45Speaker 1: There we go.
- 44:48Speaker 11: And this district actually extends from southern Portland, so the
- 44:50Speaker 11: Selwood Bridge to Central Oregon to Sun River, for those
- 44:53Speaker 11: who know. So, you know, and there's other issues that
- 44:58Speaker 11: are national issues, so congressional people stock trading, and, you know, that's.
- 45:03Speaker 7: A bipartisan issue.
- 45:04Speaker 5: You're against it?
- 45:05Speaker 11: I'm against it, but I will say, when we're talking
- 45:07Speaker 11: about stock, when I get up in the morning and
- 45:09Speaker 11: checking my stocks, I'm going out and checking on my goats.
- 45:14Speaker 5: Yes, fair enough. Um, People may be surprised to know
- 45:19Speaker 5: that you're in what is rated as a toss-up district,
- 45:21Speaker 5: that this is going to be a very competitive race.
- 45:24Speaker 5: And obviously, it's not a super optimal political environment right now.
- 45:30Speaker 5: Are there things that you would like to see the
- 45:33Speaker 5: White House, congressional Democrats do that could maybe improve the
- 45:37Speaker 5: political environment, executive actions, bills they could pass, et cetera,
- 45:40Speaker 5: as you think about your race?
- 45:43Speaker 11: Well, this is a great district because it's very purple.
- 45:46Speaker 11: It's got blue and red and purple sections of it.
- 45:49Speaker 11: And it's really a microcosm of Oregon and I think
- 45:52Speaker 11: a microcosm of our country. And if we can figure
- 45:54Speaker 11: out how to do it here and show up, listen
- 45:58Speaker 11: with respect, and work together to bridge the divides, the
- 46:01Speaker 11: political divide, the urban-rural divide, focus on talking about the
- 46:05Speaker 11: challenges that we're facing, and then work on solving those problems,
- 46:08Speaker 11: That's really what I think so many Oregonians are hungry for.
- 46:11Speaker 11: That's what I think a lot of Americans are hungry
- 46:12Speaker 11: for as well. It's getting the job done. And one
- 46:16Speaker 11: of the big threats we're facing right now is this
- 46:19Speaker 11: extremism that there has been discussion about earlier tonight.
- 46:24Speaker 5: Seems like we talk about that every week.
- 46:27Speaker 7: Well, it's true.
- 46:29Speaker 11: I mean, this is a huge crisis that we're facing.
- 46:32Speaker 11: We have to take it seriously because Like I said,
- 46:35Speaker 11: I've worked in former war zones, and we were facing
- 46:39Speaker 11: that on January 6th. And so those who are elections deniers,
- 46:44Speaker 11: like the person I'm running against, the MAGA Republican who's
- 46:46Speaker 11: an election denier, they cannot be put in positions of
- 46:49Speaker 11: power because it would put our country at risk.
- 46:52Speaker 7: And so, yeah.
- 46:58Speaker 11: And actually, I'll ask you all, the folks who literally
- 47:01Speaker 11: stood on the line for us, the Capitol Police, I'll
- 47:04Speaker 11: ask you to give them all a shout out because
- 47:06Speaker 11: they protect our democracy. So to just answer your question,
- 47:13Speaker 11: simple things like lowering prescription drug prices, that was a
- 47:16Speaker 11: huge issue in the primary. It's really simple, but I
- 47:19Speaker 11: tell you, I remember talking to a grandfather just a
- 47:22Speaker 11: couple months ago who was literally in tears because their family,
- 47:25Speaker 11: his grandson, needed, had very dangerous life-threatening allergies, and they.
- 47:30Speaker 7: Needed an EpiPen.
- 47:31Speaker 11: And those things cost about five bucks to make, and
- 47:33Speaker 11: they cost about 600 bucks to buy. That's price gouging. So,
- 47:37Speaker 11: you know, lowering prescription drug prices, that's one of those
- 47:40Speaker 11: tangible things that we can do. Also, we need to
- 47:42Speaker 11: heavily invest in renewable energy and renewable energy grid. There's
- 47:46Speaker 11: a lot of steps we can take to help, you know,
- 47:50Speaker 11: cover those basic things that we've been talking about.
- 47:53Speaker 5: In addition to your opponent being a MAGA election denier,
- 47:57Speaker 5: all the people in this audience here are going to
- 47:58Speaker 5: go out, they're going to talk to their friends, they're
- 48:00Speaker 5: going to talk to the people that they're connected to
- 48:03Speaker 5: online about your race and about the upcoming election. What
- 48:06Speaker 5: else should they know about your opponent in the stakes
- 48:09Speaker 5: in this election?
- 48:11Speaker 7: Well, a couple of things.
- 48:13Speaker 11: I mentioned before she's trying to buy this race. She
- 48:16Speaker 11: has used taxpayer money before to go on junkets and
- 48:19Speaker 11: golf carts and stuff like that. She also, when the tax,
- 48:22Speaker 11: the Trump, she was a big supporter of the Trump
- 48:26Speaker 11: tax cuts that essentially took money that put the middle
- 48:30Speaker 11: class at risk and working families at risk by lowering
- 48:34Speaker 11: the resource that we had and created tax breaks for
- 48:38Speaker 11: for corporations. That's something she celebrated, and she literally said, well,
- 48:41Speaker 11: it'll be good for some of us.
- 48:42Speaker 7: Well, it's not good for most of us. I mean,
- 48:44Speaker 7: so there's no solutions there.
- 48:46Speaker 11: So we're facing, you know, rebounding from the COVID economy,
- 48:50Speaker 11: challenging times, the climate crisis, challenge, and also protecting our democracy.
- 48:55Speaker 11: So we're in a time of crisis, but we're also
- 48:58Speaker 11: in a time of hope. And it's not passive hope.
- 49:01Speaker 11: It's let's get out there, roll up our sleeves, and
- 49:04Speaker 11: get the job done hope. And I'm really proud. The
- 49:06Speaker 11: folks who are working as part of my campaign are
- 49:08Speaker 11: working really hard to get the job done, to make
- 49:10Speaker 11: sure we protect this seat, and that we protect the House.
- 49:13Speaker 11: And that's going to be really critical.
- 49:15Speaker 5: If you're elected, you would become Oregon's first member of
- 49:18Speaker 5: Congress from the LGBTQ community. plus community. Obviously, we are
- 49:25Speaker 5: seeing in the Supreme Court and across the country an
- 49:28Speaker 5: assault on LGBTQ plus rights around this country. How worried
- 49:34Speaker 5: are you about the Supreme Court and what do you
- 49:35Speaker 5: want to see Congress do to try to protect them?
- 49:39Speaker 11: Well, there's so many attacks right now on our very
- 49:42Speaker 11: fundamental personal freedoms. And that's about our abortion rights and
- 49:47Speaker 11: rights to make decisions about our own bodies. And Grayson
- 49:49Speaker 11: was talking about that earlier. There's also about protecting families
- 49:53Speaker 11: like mine. A shout out to my wife who's here.
- 50:00Speaker 11: But we used to be able to depend on the
- 50:02Speaker 11: Supreme Court to protect our rights.
- 50:04Speaker 7: That is no more.
- 50:06Speaker 11: And so now it's going to take Congress codifying these
- 50:09Speaker 11: rights and then also making sure we have a Supreme
- 50:12Speaker 11: Court that gets back to protecting our rights. And I
- 50:15Speaker 11: can say that, yeah, I would be the first out
- 50:18Speaker 11: member of the LGBTQ community representing the.
- 50:20Speaker 7: Great state of Oregon. Really proud of that.
- 50:25Speaker 11: But so typically other people bring that up because I
- 50:28Speaker 11: just want to get the job done.
- 50:30Speaker 7: I just want to get the job done. But it
- 50:32Speaker 7: is important.
- 50:33Speaker 11: I've literally had conservative Republicans in Eastern Orient come up
- 50:36Speaker 11: to me and want to shake my hand and thank
- 50:38Speaker 11: me for running this out because they say it's time.
- 50:41Speaker 7: One guy said, my son's gay and it's time. Let's
- 50:43Speaker 7: just get this done.
- 50:44Speaker 5: That's great. That's really great.
- 50:47Speaker 1: All right.
- 50:49Speaker 5: Before we go, please tell our audience here in the
- 50:53Speaker 5: venue and listening at home how they can help your campaign.
- 50:56Speaker 7: That's been my favorite question so far.
- 50:58Speaker 1: Great question.
- 50:59Speaker 5: I would not let you off this stage without asking
- 51:01Speaker 5: that question.
- 51:02Speaker 11: Well, you know, when we're talking to voters, there's two
- 51:04Speaker 11: things that we hear. One is that when people know
- 51:07Speaker 11: my background and my experience, wildfire recovery and engineering and
- 51:11Speaker 11: all the different things I've done for folks.
- 51:14Speaker 7: People trust me to lead and trust me in the seat.
- 51:16Speaker 11: The second thing we've heard is there are a lot
- 51:18Speaker 11: more folks who need to hear about me so that
- 51:20Speaker 11: we can make sure we win this race in November.
- 51:22Speaker 7: So there's three things you can do.
- 51:24Speaker 11: The first is follow us on social media, and we're
- 51:26Speaker 11: on several different platforms. So it's at jamie4oregon. com. The second
- 51:32Speaker 11: thing you can do is donate. As I mentioned, I
- 51:35Speaker 11: don't take corporate PAC money, and we rely heavily on
- 51:39Speaker 11: individual contributions and also membership organizations. So it's jamie4oregon. com. If
- 51:44Speaker 11: you can go online and contribute $ 10, $ 20, $ 50, it'll
- 51:49Speaker 11: be huge, and that will help us. And we actually
- 51:52Speaker 11: outraised our opponent in this last cycle.
- 51:54Speaker 4: The third.
- 51:58Speaker 7: The third thing you can do is help with voter outreach.
- 52:01Speaker 11: So whether you're here in Oregon, whether you're anywhere across
- 52:06Speaker 11: the country, you can help with voter engagement, you can
- 52:09Speaker 11: help on the phones, you can help with postcards. If
- 52:11Speaker 11: you're here in the district, in the area, you can
- 52:13Speaker 11: go knock on doors, because that voter contact, that talking
- 52:15Speaker 11: about this hope we have for the future is the
- 52:18Speaker 11: way we're gonna win this race.
- 52:20Speaker 5: There is no math where the Democrats lose this race
- 52:26Speaker 5: and keep the majority. So if we wanna keep the
- 52:28Speaker 5: majority and keep the gavel out of Kevin McCarthy's hand,
- 52:30Speaker 5: we have to elect Jamie. So Jamie, thank you so
- 52:38Speaker 5: much for being here. Please give it up for him.
- 52:40Speaker 1: Thank you all.
- 52:48Speaker 5: When we come back, we're gonna play a game.
- 53:01Speaker 1: So, this week, Democrats in Congress tried something that political
- 53:07Speaker 1: experts are calling a strategy. They decided to hold a
- 53:13Speaker 1: vote on legislation that would protect the federal right to
- 53:15Speaker 1: same-sex marriage, and as intended, it's causing Republican politicians to
- 53:19Speaker 1: really squirm. After all, most Americans have come to love
- 53:24Speaker 1: seeing two sweet PR executives in matching beards and tuxes
- 53:28Speaker 1: exchange vows while their lesbian friend sings a Brandi Carlile
- 53:31Speaker 1: song she kind of learned the day before. But most
- 53:36Speaker 1: Republican politicians are still stuck with their lame old position.
- 53:39Speaker 1: The marriage is meant to be between one man and
- 53:42Speaker 1: one woman he talks at over dinner. This has led
- 53:47Speaker 1: to some truly pathetic attempts to avoid answering questions on
- 53:51Speaker 1: the topic, like when Marco Rubio tried to escape reporters
- 53:54Speaker 1: by running into an elevator, only to be trapped in
- 53:57Speaker 1: there with the bill's co-sponsor, Democratic Senator Tammy Baldwin. Yeah,
- 54:05Speaker 1: that's tough. Tough for Marco. I would love to know
- 54:07Speaker 1: what they think about it. Tough for Marco. So, how's
- 54:10Speaker 1: it going? Other Republicans have decided to really let their
- 54:14Speaker 1: anti-gay freak flags fly for old time's sake. Let's see
- 54:19Speaker 1: if you can tell which way they went in a
- 54:21Speaker 1: game that we're calling for better or for potentially much worse.
- 54:26Speaker 1: All right, we'd love to have some volunteers in the audience,
- 54:29Speaker 1: but please only raise your hand if you've signed up
- 54:32Speaker 1: for Vote Save America's Midterm Madness.
- 54:34Speaker 4: Why?
- 54:35Speaker 1: Because as of next weekend, we only have 100 days
- 54:38Speaker 1: left until the 2022 midterms, and we need to make
- 54:41Speaker 1: every day count. So if you haven't signed up yet,
- 54:43Speaker 1: go to votesaveamerica.com to take our Count Me In pledge
- 54:47Speaker 1: to volunteer next weekend, the weekend of July 31st.
- 54:49Speaker 6: Okay.
- 54:50Speaker 1: Now, who wants to play? Who signed up? Olivia is
- 54:52Speaker 1: out there.
- 54:53Speaker 5: We will know if you're lying.
- 54:54Speaker 4: If you lie.
- 54:55Speaker 1: We'll check.
- 54:56Speaker 6: But if you want to tell a little white lie
- 54:58Speaker 6: tonight and then sign up tomorrow.
- 55:00Speaker 1: Yeah, like if we don't have enough volunteers for questions.
- 55:03Speaker 5: Look at all the hands that went up.
- 55:04Speaker 1: So many fucking hands up.
- 55:06Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
- 55:07Speaker 1: That is embarrassing.
- 55:08Speaker 4: It's a permission structure to lie.
- 55:11Speaker 1: All right, Olivia, you got someone?
- 55:13Speaker 7: Hello, my name is Tamela.
- 55:16Speaker 1: Hi.
- 55:17Speaker 2: Hi.
- 55:17Speaker 5: Thank you.
- 55:19Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 55:19Speaker 2: All right.
- 55:20Speaker 1: You signed up?
- 55:20Speaker 5: You're good?
- 55:21Speaker 1: Yes.
- 55:22Speaker 7: Wait, sorry?
- 55:23Speaker 1: What region have you signed up for?
- 55:24Speaker 3: She's like, what are you talking about? What did I
- 55:25Speaker 3: sign up for?
- 55:26Speaker 7: Oh, northeast.
- 55:27Speaker 1: Okay, good. All right. Okay, cool. That sounded honest.
- 55:31Speaker 6: Would have preferred the Midwest as an answer, but that.
- 55:33Speaker 3: Works for me. I'm from Pennsylvania.
- 55:36Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense. That's fine. Yeah, yeah. All right,
- 55:38Speaker 1: so here's a question. Before Tammy Baldwin cornered him in
- 55:42Speaker 1: that elevator, Marco Rubio deflected questions about the survival of
- 55:47Speaker 1: gay marriage in America... by insisting he knows, quote, plenty
- 55:51Speaker 1: of gay people in Florida that are pissed off about what?
- 55:57Speaker 4: COVID restrictions?
- 55:59Speaker 1: Not COVID restrictions. Anyone else? Anyone else want to try again?
- 56:04Speaker 5: Thank you.
- 56:06Speaker 4: Gas.
- 56:06Speaker 1: The answer is gas prices. But if you think at
- 56:10Speaker 1: least some of those gay people weren't filling their tanks
- 56:12Speaker 1: to drive to a gay wedding, you're out of your mind.
- 56:16Speaker 1: I get seven invitations on my fridge right now. The
- 56:18Speaker 1: whole world is playing Wedding Ketchup. All right, let's get
- 56:22Speaker 1: another audience member. Megan?
- 56:25Speaker 2: Hi, nice to meet you.
- 56:30Speaker 3: Okay, so here's your question.
- 56:32Speaker 2: Which Alabama senator, whose name sounds like a spunky cartoon
- 56:35Speaker 2: potato that plays the trombone, replied the following when asked
- 56:40Speaker 2: if he supported gay marriage?
- 56:42Speaker 3: Yeah, if that's what you want to do, fine. Oh God,
- 56:48Speaker 3: who follows Alabama? Which Alabama senator?
- 56:52Speaker 7: Some asshole in Alabama?
- 56:54Speaker 1: What did you say?
- 56:57Speaker 4: I said some asshole in Alabama.
- 56:59Speaker 1: That's technically correct.
- 57:00Speaker 4: Let's take it.
- 57:02Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some asshole in Alabama.
- 57:06Speaker 2: Yeah, subtitle Tommy Tuberville, by the way.
- 57:10Speaker 9: Who is?
- 57:11Speaker 5: An asshole from Alabama.
- 57:13Speaker 3: A specific asshole from Alabama.
- 57:14Speaker 1: So technically 100% correct. Yeah, you nailed that. Absolutely know that.
- 57:19Speaker 1: All right, who we got? Ryan. Ryan, okay.
- 57:23Speaker 6: This is a fill-in-the-blank question. In a statement to CNN
- 57:27Speaker 6: this week, Rand Paul claimed... Yeah, I got.
- 57:32Speaker 1: Some Rand Paul fans here.
- 57:33Speaker 6: Rand Paul claimed that he has not had time to
- 57:35Speaker 6: look at the gay marriage bill as it heads to
- 57:38Speaker 6: the Senate. He's been too busy wrestling with his neighbor.
- 57:42Speaker 6: You know how it goes for Rand. So in 2013...
- 57:46Speaker 6: Rand Paul said this about the slippery slope.
- 57:49Speaker 1: Of gay marriage.
- 57:50Speaker 6: Quote, I think it's a conundrum. If we have no
- 57:53Speaker 6: laws on this, people take it to one extension further.
- 57:57Speaker 6: Does gay marriage even have to be between blank?
- 58:01Speaker 4: What is the blank?
- 58:04Speaker 1: People?
- 58:06Speaker 5: Humans. Yes.
- 58:08Speaker 4: You nailed it.
- 58:09Speaker 6: But he said it in sort of like a sad,
- 58:12Speaker 6: wistful way, adding, Can't a man fall in love with
- 58:15Speaker 6: a body pillow shaped like an 18th century Scottish philosopher,
- 58:19Speaker 6: Adam Smith? If our relationship isn't real, then why do
- 58:23Speaker 6: I cry when we make love?
- 58:25Speaker 4: That was just additional information that I thought you should
- 58:28Speaker 4: take home. That was vivid.
- 58:30Speaker 1: 100% accurate quote from Rand Paul. Definitely, we didn't make
- 58:35Speaker 1: it up. Scottish philosopher, Adam Smith.
- 58:39Speaker 4: Hi, Molly.
- 58:40Speaker 5: Hi, Molly. Hi. In what region... Have you signed up
- 58:44Speaker 5: for it?
- 58:44Speaker 7: I'm going to sign up for the Midwest. I'm from Wisconsin.
- 58:46Speaker 5: Okay, that's good. Yes. Okay, this is also a fill-in-the-blank question.
- 58:52Speaker 5: Of course we know exactly how Republicans feel about gay
- 58:55Speaker 5: marriage because they told us when the Supreme Court decided
- 58:57Speaker 5: Obergefell in 2015. In response, GOP congressman and avowed white
- 59:02Speaker 5: supremacist Stephen King said, it only requires one human being
- 59:06Speaker 5: in this relationship that you could marry your blank with
- 59:09Speaker 5: this decision. What piece of lawn equipment did King suggest
- 59:12Speaker 5: you could soon ride down the aisle in front of
- 59:14Speaker 5: your friends and family?
- 59:17Speaker 7: God, there's my Wisconsin hammock. I don't know.
- 59:25Speaker 5: The answer is lawnmower. Which is just horrible. Do you
- 59:29Speaker 5: know how expensive it would be to feed an entire
- 59:31Speaker 5: extended family of lawnmowers plus an open bar? Gas prices
- 59:35Speaker 5: are insane right now.
- 59:41Speaker 4: I feel like weed whacker is the obvious answer here.
- 59:43Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. You know?
- 59:46Speaker 8: No?
- 59:47Speaker 1: Tommy. Jesus. Tough crowd.
- 59:49Speaker 4: Fucking, sorry, Portland.
- 59:51Speaker 1: All right, Olivia, who we got? Austin. Austin, what's up?
- 59:58Speaker 1: Not much, just here. Right on. What region are you
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: signed up for? I will sign up for the Northwest.
- 1:00:04Speaker 5: Northwest?
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: Oh, we just invented a new region.
- 1:00:07Speaker 4: Made up a region.
- 1:00:08Speaker 5: Love that, Austin.
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: You know what?
- 1:00:10Speaker 5: Love that for you.
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: We're in Portland. That's fine. Don't worry about it.
- 1:00:13Speaker 4: Just say West.
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: All right. This week, Mitch McConnell said, quote, I'm going
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: to delay announcing anything on that issue until we see
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: what the majority leader wants to put on the floor. However,
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: he used to support an anti-gay federal marriage amendment Said McConnell, quote,
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: I believe that traditional marriage, the union between a man
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: and a woman, is what? This is multiple choice, don't worry. A,
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: the cornerstone of our society. B, the way Jesus and
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: his wife, Mrs. Jesus, intended things to be. C, what
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: I like to watch. Or D, what I like to
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: watch from a closet when no one knows that I'm there.
- 1:00:54Speaker 4: As much as I wish it was B, it's A.
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: You are correct. It is A.
- 1:00:59Speaker 5: I think D might be correct, too.
- 1:01:04Speaker 4: God help us.
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: Oh, gosh.
- 1:01:09Speaker 5: Jenny.
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: Hey, Jenny.
- 1:01:12Speaker 4: Hi.
- 1:01:14Speaker 5: Welcome.
- 1:01:15Speaker 4: What region are you from?
- 1:01:17Speaker 3: I'm going to sign up for the Midwest tomorrow. I
- 1:01:19Speaker 3: grew up in Michigan. All right.
- 1:01:24Speaker 4: Well, Nagin's got you covered.
- 1:01:26Speaker 3: Well, this is a multiple choice question.
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: Asked about the bill, Iowa Senator Joni Ernst said she
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: hadn't seen the bill, but is keeping an open mind.
- 1:01:36Speaker 3: You know her. She's got such an open mind.
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: When asked if she supports marriage equality, though, she actually said,
- 1:01:44Speaker 2: I have a good number of very close friends that are, what,
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: is it A, real snappy dressers, B, queer as a
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: $ 3 bill, C, bears, and not the kind you see
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: at Yellowstone, hey.
- 1:02:01Speaker 3: Or D, same-sex married. Gosh, I really want to say A,
- 1:02:09Speaker 3: but I think maybe it's C. Oh, you're nuts!
- 1:02:16Speaker 5: It should be C.
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: I know, I really wish she just said bears, and
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: then it was like twinks, and she just knew the entire... No,
- 1:02:27Speaker 2: the answer is D, same-sex married, but that was so cute,
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: what you said.
- 1:02:32Speaker 5: Because same-sex married is a total normal way to describe that.
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: Should have said otters.
- 1:02:39Speaker 4: Who we got? Yeah, hey, I'm Brian. Brian, good to
- 1:02:46Speaker 4: meet you. What region we got here? I'm going to
- 1:02:48Speaker 4: go south.
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: Sure.
- 1:02:50Speaker 5: You're a good man, my friend.
- 1:02:52Speaker 4: Unbelievable. Is south Lovett?
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: Just defiance. Is Lovett?
- 1:02:57Speaker 5: I'm south.
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: Oh, you're south. Sorry.
- 1:02:58Speaker 5: It's like me and Stacey Abrams.
- 1:02:59Speaker 4: Yeah, right, right, right.
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: Luminaries. Lovett's northeast.
- 1:03:04Speaker 4: Okay.
- 1:03:06Speaker 6: As recently as 2013, what two groups did Ben Carson
- 1:03:11Speaker 6: compare to gay people in Hoping to get marriage equality.
- 1:03:15Speaker 4: There are multiple choices here.
- 1:03:17Speaker 6: Al-Qaeda and ISIS, A. B, Nambla and people who engage
- 1:03:22Speaker 6: in bestiality. C, drug cartels and human traffickers. D, Barack
- 1:03:28Speaker 6: Obama and his second Muslim army.
- 1:03:30Speaker 4: What's this first?
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 1:03:32Speaker 4: We'll find out. I'm going to go B. B?
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:03:39Speaker 4: Nailed it.
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: Nambla... Very good.
- 1:03:42Speaker 4: And people who engage in bestiality.
- 1:03:44Speaker 6: And just a reminder for everyone listening, Ben Carson was
- 1:03:46Speaker 6: a neurosurgeon and the U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development.
- 1:03:52Speaker 5: I will say I once tweeted what I thought was
- 1:03:55Speaker 5: a very innocuous thing, that Ben Carson gave brain surgeons
- 1:03:58Speaker 5: a bad name. You know who does not like that?
- 1:04:00Speaker 5: Other brain surgeons.
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: Oh, no.
- 1:04:03Speaker 5: Very mad at me.
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: They disagreed?
- 1:04:05Speaker 5: They were very mad.
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: They were very upset. Well, I'd say you were right
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: and they were wrong. All right, here we go. Last question.
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: Last questioner. Hello. Hi. I'm Katie.
- 1:04:18Speaker 5: In what region have you signed up for?
- 1:04:19Speaker 4: What do you consider Montana?
- 1:04:21Speaker 11: Because I'm going to sign up in the morning, but
- 1:04:22Speaker 11: I don't know.
- 1:04:23Speaker 5: Is that west or is that midwest? I'm going to
- 1:04:26Speaker 5: ask your question. I represent the south. That would be
- 1:04:27Speaker 5: one option.
- 1:04:29Speaker 3: Okay, I can do the south.
- 1:04:30Speaker 4: Or the midwest if you want to get with a winner.
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 1:04:34Speaker 9: Okay.
- 1:04:34Speaker 5: Well, you can make your decision later, but we know
- 1:04:36Speaker 5: you'll sign up in the morning.
- 1:04:37Speaker 11: Yes.
- 1:04:38Speaker 5: And if not, we'll find you.
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:04:41Speaker 5: All right.
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: You have my address.
- 1:04:42Speaker 5: I've ordered from you a lot. Correct. And finally, lest
- 1:04:48Speaker 5: we forget the role Republican standard bearers like Rick Santorum
- 1:04:51Speaker 5: played in shaping their party's policy, in 2004, Santorum compared
- 1:04:56Speaker 5: Massachusetts' marriage equality decision to what way too recent national tragedy.
- 1:05:02Speaker 5: Here's a hint. It's a horrible analogy now. It was
- 1:05:06Speaker 5: an even worse one in 2004. You're not multiple-choicing me.
- 1:05:13Speaker 5: It's not a multiple choice. This is straight off the
- 1:05:15Speaker 5: dome for you.
- 1:05:16Speaker 7: Oh, 9-11.
- 1:05:19Speaker 5: It's a national tragedy around.
- 1:05:22Speaker 3: It's 9-11.
- 1:05:23Speaker 5: That is correct.
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: It is 9-11.
- 1:05:25Speaker 5: This is Santorum's quote. This is an issue just like 9-11.
- 1:05:29Speaker 5: We didn't decide we wanted to fight the world on
- 1:05:32Speaker 5: terrorism because we wanted to. It was brought to us.
- 1:05:34Speaker 5: And if not now, when? It's sad to... Rick just
- 1:05:37Speaker 5: needs one gay friend to tell him to stop wearing
- 1:05:39Speaker 5: those sweater vests.
- 1:05:42Speaker 4: Wow.
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: That's our game.
- 1:05:44Speaker 5: You're all winners.
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: That is our game. That is our show for tonight.
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