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I Didn't Expect This Podcast to Change My Life | Season One Finale · Just Heal with Dr Jay

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Just Here with Doctor J, a production of
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Speaker 1: the Black Effect Podcast Network in iHeartRadio. What's up, everybody?
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Speaker 1: This is Doctor J. Barnett and this is Just Here
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Speaker 1: with Doctor J. Listen. I'm gonna be doing something different today.
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Speaker 1: I don't have a guest. This is my final episode
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Speaker 1: of season one. The guests. It's me. I'm gonna be talking.
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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna ramble, but I do think
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Speaker 1: that I will sort of provide just an overview of
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Speaker 1: what this past season was. I'll share in depth on
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Speaker 1: some of my favorite episodes. I'll talk about what the
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Speaker 1: episodes meant to me. I'll also talk about my life
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Speaker 1: from last year. My first episode dropped April twenty second,
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Speaker 1: which is my birthday. Right, So last year I made
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Speaker 1: forty three on my birthday, drop Just Here with Doctor J.
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Speaker 1: It's not knowing where it was going joining the podcast
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Speaker 1: as in the world, don't have a clue, didn't want
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Speaker 1: to do it, but felt led to do it, And
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Speaker 1: so here I am a year later, forty four, a
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Speaker 1: little more gray, hair less worries, a lot leaner. I
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Speaker 1: feel really great right now. I love where I'm at.
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Speaker 1: This podcast journey has been a very good journey for
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Speaker 1: me to be on. It's challenged my consistency. Not that
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Speaker 1: I have an issue with being consistent, It's really challenged
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Speaker 1: me to continue to be consistent in the type of
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Speaker 1: guests that I bring before you, guys, the vetting process,
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Speaker 1: knowing that I can't tell everybody's story, but also picking
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Speaker 1: and choosing the stories that I want to tell the
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Speaker 1: people that I want to interview. But then also what
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Speaker 1: I learned about this process is just listening to my
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Speaker 1: spirit right being able to feel when I needed to
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Speaker 1: have a certain guest on I needed to talk about
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Speaker 1: a particular topic or subject. I didn't do any episodes
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Speaker 1: around current issues. I don't feel called to that. There
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Speaker 1: are a lot of mental health professionals who do content
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Speaker 1: around things that are going on around the world. My
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Speaker 1: focus is to bring conversations to you that are going
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Speaker 1: to impact you from the space of where you might
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Speaker 1: be on your journey. You haven't started your journey, you're
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Speaker 1: deciding to go to therapy, You've had an experience with divorce,
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Speaker 1: you had an experience with loss, losing a loved one,
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Speaker 1: a child, your job, talking about relationships, you know, talking
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Speaker 1: about sports and navigating the different terrains and life adjusting apples.
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Speaker 1: So it was so many different conversations and as I'm
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Speaker 1: thinking about I'm just like, for one, I can't believe
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Speaker 1: it's been a year. I wish I would have broken
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Speaker 1: up into several seasons where we do ten episodes season
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Speaker 1: one and so probably I'll be on season ten right now.
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Speaker 1: Because of the fifty two episodes. I don't think I'll
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Speaker 1: do fifty two episode again because it was really it
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Speaker 1: was work because I did a lot of episodes on
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Speaker 1: the road, We traveled to location. We had a very
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Speaker 1: good team, not a big production, but here's what we
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Speaker 1: did do. We were nominated for three podcasts awards BCI
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Speaker 1: Black Christian Influencer Award Podcasts of the Year, also the
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Speaker 1: iHeart Podcast Award. We were nominated in the self help
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Speaker 1: and Motivation and category and then last but not least,
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Speaker 1: the Ultimate and NAACP Image Award for Podcasts of the
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Speaker 1: Year Inspiration. Now, I didn't win any of those categories,
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Speaker 1: but in two of those categories I was included with
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Speaker 1: Michelle Obama, which was an honor to be, you know,
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Speaker 1: in the same category as the first and only Black
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Speaker 1: First Lady and to be recognized with other individuals you
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Speaker 1: know that had great podcasts. It was just humbling because
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Speaker 1: it's my first year at the Gate. And what I
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Speaker 1: realized is that people weren't just looking for another podcast.
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Speaker 1: They was looking for debt, they were looking for insight,
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Speaker 1: they were looking for substance, they were looking for real stories.
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Speaker 1: But then they were also looking for spaces where not
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Speaker 1: only that they not only did they see that the
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Speaker 1: guests felt safe, they themselves felt safe as they were
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Speaker 1: watching the number of testimony, the comments. I took a part.
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Speaker 1: I took a YouTube page that only had a thousand followers.
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Speaker 1: I think we're close to thirty thousand sub which is
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Speaker 1: okay with me. Like I'm about being effective, Like it's
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Speaker 1: not in the fifty thousand, it's not in one hundred
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Speaker 1: thousand yet, but it's about the effectiveness. It showed my
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Speaker 1: range of being able to go from the stage and
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Speaker 1: go to the podcast space, being able to go from
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Speaker 1: the classroom to teaching, but also to be able to
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Speaker 1: create a therapeutic experience for people in real time. It
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Speaker 1: wasn't therapy, but it felt like therapy for not only
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Speaker 1: my guests but those who were watching at the time.
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Speaker 1: And that blessed me, that encouraged me, and I'm truly
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Speaker 1: grateful for iHeart. I'm grateful for Charlemagne to God and
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Speaker 1: the Black Effect for believing in me. I have another year,
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Speaker 1: you know, with the network, so I'm excited about season
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Speaker 1: two and what we're going to bring this fall. The guests,
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Speaker 1: the conversation, the production, you know, the whole nine. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's just it's been a great journey and I've grown
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Speaker 1: a lot as a creator. I've grown a lot as
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Speaker 1: a speaker. I've grown a lot even in my own
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Speaker 1: healing journey, because every conversation that I had allowed me
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Speaker 1: to see deeper into the lives of others and to
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Speaker 1: hear their stories, but also to feel their pain and
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Speaker 1: to sit with them in their moment, in their space,
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Speaker 1: and to know that healing means so many different things
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Speaker 1: for people. You know, the question that you hear is
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Speaker 1: what does healing mean for you? When I'm talking to
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Speaker 1: the guests, What healing means for me today is a
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Speaker 1: constant process of becoming. It's a constant process of becoming,
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Speaker 1: because that's what this journey has allowed me to do,
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Speaker 1: to continue to become, to continue to grow, because I've
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Speaker 1: learned to laugh more. I've learned to be open more.
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Speaker 1: I've learned to be vulnerable, I've learned to love. I mean,
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Speaker 1: this podcast opened me up in ways that I didn't
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Speaker 1: realize that I would be open, and so I'm excited
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Speaker 1: to just kind of talk about this and have some
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Speaker 1: of the conversations around some of my favorite episodes. And
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Speaker 1: the first part of the filming process, we did like
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Speaker 1: a four interviews in One Day Later's Whitfield from Dear
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Speaker 1: Future Wife. He my good friend Lawrence Ajib, Mike Leado,
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Speaker 1: talked about athlete's money, his journey, and then we decided
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Speaker 1: to do a sit down where I'm just talking to
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Speaker 1: the camera and this was probably the first time that
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Speaker 1: I've been that open about some parts or certain parts
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Speaker 1: of my story. He grabbed me by my neck and
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Speaker 1: choked me until I passed out in front of my sister,
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Speaker 1: and my sister that scared her because they didn't know
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Speaker 1: if I was dead or alive, because as they called it,
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Speaker 1: putting you to sleep. And I wake up and I'm
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Speaker 1: looking up at him and not knowing what happened. I
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Speaker 1: just remember him choking me, and I'm blacking out, and
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Speaker 1: I begin to talk about my aunt Bessie, who became
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Speaker 1: very popular on the Internet, and the things that people
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Speaker 1: said about Bessie Bear was just like you know, it was.
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Speaker 1: It was quite interesting because I didn't realize how many
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Speaker 1: people would relate to my story about colorism. And Bessie
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Speaker 1: did in like dark skinned kids. And my parents sent
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Speaker 1: me to the family reunion. They didn't go. They they
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Speaker 1: sent me with my aunt and uncle. Nobody defended from me,
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Speaker 1: and Bessie had a field day with my little black behind.
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Speaker 1: I was, as you to see, chocolate brother. So it
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Speaker 1: was a chocolate kid and growing up in Mississippi to
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Speaker 1: a fair skinned lady who hated dark skinned children. And
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Speaker 1: this stays with me because oftentimes people are like, oh
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Speaker 1: my god, you're so handsome, so beautiful, and you're hearing
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Speaker 1: it from me. I don't see what people see. I'm
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Speaker 1: just being honest. I just don't. And here's why. And
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Speaker 1: I shared this story with my godmother because I had
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Speaker 1: one encounter after another that will cause mental and emotional
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Speaker 1: pain that would scar you. Right, I'm a dark skinned man, right,
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Speaker 1: go figure? Right? Or should I say you know it's
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Speaker 1: the obvious, right, Being surrounded by a fair skinned aunt
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Speaker 1: who doesn't like dark skinned children. And in the story,
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Speaker 1: I opened up how I was at a family reunion
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Speaker 1: and I couldn't come in the house because I was
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Speaker 1: too dark. Bessie made me sit outside and eat with
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Speaker 1: a dog and you know, eat the pizza. And it
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Speaker 1: was one of those things. Man. Where As I was
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Speaker 1: talking about it in the episode and sharing, I didn't
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Speaker 1: know how that part of my life had really impacted
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Speaker 1: me until I went back and watched it. Cause sometimes
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Speaker 1: when you're talking and and you're in your story, like
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Speaker 1: you you don't you don't know what it's going to do.
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Speaker 1: You don't know how people are going to receive it.
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Speaker 1: You don't know how the producer is going to chop
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Speaker 1: it up. And the way the CJ edited, you know,
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Speaker 1: the way that he really hone in on me talking
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Speaker 1: about the pain and talking about what I had endured.
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Speaker 1: Cause I cause a lot of times I don't remember
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Speaker 1: or you know, when I'm in a moment sharing and man,
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Speaker 1: we put that thing out there and it just took off.
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Speaker 1: And the amount of people who DM me about their
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Speaker 1: own stories of colorism, men and women that was sharing
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Speaker 1: how they weren't you know, they were treated differently because
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Speaker 1: they were fair skinned, or they were treated differently because
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Speaker 1: their skin was darker, they were treated differently from friends,
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Speaker 1: from family members. It's just so on and so forth. Man,
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Speaker 1: I had no idea, and I think we went viral
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Speaker 1: on several platforms. I think we made it to World Star,
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Speaker 1: Like well, I would have never thought that that made
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Speaker 1: it to World Star. But what I realized is that
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Speaker 1: so many of us share similar pains, and we share
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Speaker 1: similar experiences, and we share similar groanings. That often rests
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Speaker 1: in the corner of our minds because who do we
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Speaker 1: share those things with? Who do you talk about them with?
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Speaker 1: Or two? And that day I decided to talk to
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Speaker 1: you the world, the audience, because people will see me
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Speaker 1: and like, oh my, you know you're a handsome guy.
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Speaker 1: You know you got nice teeth, you got a head
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Speaker 1: full of hair in your forties, which is rare, and
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Speaker 1: you know, they have these different ideas and these different
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Speaker 1: thoughts about me, and not knowing that I was battling
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Speaker 1: with this insecurity of being dark skinned and then being
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Speaker 1: the darkest one in my family and having to manage
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Speaker 1: my own complexes that I had about myself because I
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Speaker 1: didn't look like everybody else in my family and my
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Speaker 1: dad's fair skinning, my sister is light skinning, my mom
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Speaker 1: is caramel and like my baby sister's caramel life. And
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Speaker 1: then here I am this dark skin and then hearing black,
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Speaker 1: sit your black ass down, sit your blackness, and get
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Speaker 1: your black hands off of me, Like that's all I
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Speaker 1: ever heard. And it didn't hit me until I watched
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Speaker 1: the play back and I said, Wow, that really shaped me.
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Speaker 1: And I don't think we realize what shapes us until
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Speaker 1: we looking at the shape, until you realize like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I'm made in this way because the figures often are
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Speaker 1: molded by words, by the hands of those who are
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Speaker 1: meant to care for us, and oftentimes they mishandle us
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Speaker 1: and they drop us because their words doesn't allow them
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Speaker 1: to hold us in the hands that should keep us,
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Speaker 1: and rather they're held in the hands that usually hurt us,
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Speaker 1: if that makes sense. And I'm just grateful that the
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Speaker 1: clip the episode just went crazy, you know, and I
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Speaker 1: thought at that time, like, wow, man, people are really
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Speaker 1: you know, rocking with this. And there were some people
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Speaker 1: that felt some people thought my hair was fake, like
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Speaker 1: you know, somebody was said in the comment, or this
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Speaker 1: dude up here talking about he was hated on as
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Speaker 1: a dark skinned child while he's wearing a unit. You know,
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Speaker 1: people say some crazy things, man, But what I realized
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Speaker 1: is that colorism is not only real, but also we're
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Speaker 1: all holding onto insecurities that are real, whether you are
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Speaker 1: dark skinned, brown skin, light skin, however you identify. And
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Speaker 1: what that episode did was it brought to light what
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Speaker 1: people often hide in the dark. I gotta go with
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Speaker 1: David Birds, Man. I gotta go with David birds on
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Speaker 1: why most relationships that that episode there, man was crazy.
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Speaker 1: And it was crazy man, because you know, I didn't like,
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Speaker 1: you know, you just you don't think that, you know,
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Speaker 1: certain conversations are going to be you know what they
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Speaker 1: are until the audience, you know, gets their eyes on it.
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Speaker 1: And at the time that I had that conversation with David, like,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest man, like I really was desiring
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Speaker 1: a relationship that they could sit in the space with
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Speaker 1: me so they don't feel, you know what I'm saying, like,
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Speaker 1: you know, left out.
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Speaker 2: And you become a murderer when you do that. And
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Speaker 2: the reason why is because if you're so big you
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Speaker 2: suffocate the people then aren't big enough to love you. You're
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Speaker 2: too big and it's your hearts sitting on they will
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Speaker 2: kill them. I want you to hear that you're too
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Speaker 2: big for little And why am I'm a big famous
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Speaker 2: I'm talking about big in the body, big in the kingdom,
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Speaker 2: big in Christ. And so you can't be with the
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Speaker 2: little woman. You will suffocate her.
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Speaker 1: And so when I sat down with David, I was like, Yo, man,
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Speaker 1: why am I single? Bro? Like, what the heck is
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Speaker 1: going on? You know what I'm saying. So I sit
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Speaker 1: down with David, who is a phenomenal guy, very insightful
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Speaker 1: and very wise in the space of relationships, and man,
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Speaker 1: he just beginning to peel back layers, and the layers
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Speaker 1: that he was peeling back was just like, you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, man, it was like I feel like that,
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Speaker 1: but I just couldn't put it into words. You know,
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Speaker 1: when he started saying with JB. Man, you're different type
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Speaker 1: of man, and it's like, I know that I'm a
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Speaker 1: different type of man, but I don't get to say
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Speaker 1: that I'm a different type of man, because if you
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Speaker 1: say it is you're a different type of man today
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Speaker 1: it's like, oh, you're self absorbed or you know, he's
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Speaker 1: a narcissist. He wants everything to be about him. He's
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Speaker 1: blah blah blah. So that episode, when I tell you, it,
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Speaker 1: blessed my socks off because for the first time I
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Speaker 1: felt seen in what I felt, and my feelings were
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Speaker 1: validated by a brother who saw me and who could
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Speaker 1: articulate what I could not put into words, because I
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Speaker 1: was also worried about if I said like this, what
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Speaker 1: are they gonna think? So having him to speak for me, man,
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Speaker 1: it was just a phenomenal episode. And when he started
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Speaker 1: talking about how you know, being a heel man and
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Speaker 1: what that requires for the woman, because I often say
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Speaker 1: this to ladies, when a brother becomes here, a brother
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Speaker 1: is emotionally intelligent, a brother is aware, it's going to
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Speaker 1: challenge your perception, not of just of the brother, but
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Speaker 1: even the perception of yourself, because sometimes you've identified yourself
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Speaker 1: to be here, not because you're better, but sometimes in
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Speaker 1: some cases not. All women feel just because they are
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Speaker 1: more emotional, that they are more emotional intelligent, and that's
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Speaker 1: not the same thing. Now, you may be more emotional
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Speaker 1: because that's your primary function, but to have an understanding
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Speaker 1: of your emotions to regulate them is totally different, and
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Speaker 1: so to deal with a brother who may have advanced
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Speaker 1: in that area because he's sat with himself. He has
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Speaker 1: a sense of awareness, a sense of acuity that allows
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Speaker 1: him to sort of, you know, to see things that
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Speaker 1: are often overlooked, and particularly in a relationship space, because
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Speaker 1: you know, some women feel like, well, I'm the woman,
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Speaker 1: you know, I know more than you, I'm smarter than you.
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Speaker 1: And it's not that you. Women are smarter than men.
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Speaker 1: Women have been given more time to become so it
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Speaker 1: can make you more advanced emotionally and socially. So feeling
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Speaker 1: gets a pretty Oh man, God, my friend my dog
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Speaker 1: just talked to the other day too. She's on Broadway, August Wilson,
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Speaker 1: and it was crazy because man, you know, God is
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Speaker 1: so amazing. Everything just aligned that we were doing something
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Speaker 1: with Taraji that weekend in DC just so happened. We
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Speaker 1: got a crew together, we were able to feel it
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Speaker 1: in a hotel and also be able to bring this
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Speaker 1: to the audience. May it's mental health Awareness month and
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Speaker 1: she's just blacks. I saw socks off on that episode
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Speaker 1: because she was so open talking about dating, you know,
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Speaker 1: not dating a man that's not healed.
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Speaker 3: Now somebody's like you date. No, I'm not dealing with
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Speaker 3: nobody's unhealed son. Can I get an amen? Hallelu hallelujah.
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Speaker 3: And you know, I'm even thinking about like the marriage thing,
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Speaker 3: like I don't even know if I need the stresses
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Speaker 3: of that in my life. A lot of lifetime partner
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Speaker 3: for sure, but at this big old age, I'm not
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Speaker 3: having kids, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to partner. I don't know if I
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Speaker 1: want the papers to go.
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Speaker 3: I don't I don't know if I want that.
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Speaker 1: You know. And she said she didn't want to be
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Speaker 1: dealing with nobody unhealed son and talking about how pretty
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Speaker 1: healing was and shared her journey and what her journey
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Speaker 1: has been like. That episode was so far man and
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Speaker 1: then it was also fired because I was able to
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Speaker 1: get an a one person you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: And so now we were official, you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: Because let me just be honest, y'all want ja until
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Speaker 1: we brought to Raji on. I'm just gonna be real,
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Speaker 1: you know, And that's okay because sometimes you need somebody
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Speaker 1: to come on and kind of bless you and kind
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Speaker 1: of you know, give you that credibility and just kind of,
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Speaker 1: you know, give you that sort of you know, Oprah effect.
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Speaker 1: And that's what he did. She came and blessed us.
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Speaker 1: And I'm telling you that the floodgates opening because now
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Speaker 1: everybody want to sit down and talk with your boy.
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Speaker 1: Everybody want to sit down and talk to the good doctor,
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Speaker 1: as my mama called me, the good doctor. Everybody wanted
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Speaker 1: to sit down and open up. And that opened up
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Speaker 1: the door for not just celebrities, but people who were
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Speaker 1: of a certain status could sit down and have a
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Speaker 1: conversation and say that guy knows what he's doing and
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Speaker 1: he's for real about it, you know, because to Rajia,
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Speaker 1: don't sit down with everybody and talk to you know, everybody,
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Speaker 1: and especially in the way that she sat down and
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Speaker 1: talk with me and open up. So it was it
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Speaker 1: was a phenomenal episode. I really, I really enjoyed that episode. Mister,
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Speaker 1: Oh god, how did you navigate on the performer and
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Speaker 1: the man?
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Speaker 4: Oh, when I get that right, I'll come back. When
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Speaker 4: I get that right, I'll come back.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Oh no, I love it. Oh no, I don't know
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Speaker 4: if you ever it's because they're so intertwined, that said,
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Speaker 4: they are so much part of the DNA of who
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Speaker 4: you are, that that that when you are passionate and
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Speaker 4: committed to your craft, that you don't know a lot
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Speaker 4: of times when the lines are like you hear Denzel
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Speaker 4: talk about how it took months for him to get
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Speaker 4: the character of Malcolm X outside of his body because
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Speaker 4: he embodied that character so much. You hear how actors
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Speaker 4: transform themselves, but sometimes it drives them crazy because they
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Speaker 4: became so much of that. You hear about Heath Legendary
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Speaker 4: before he was brokefore he took his life. How when
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Speaker 4: he played the Joker, how playing that character almost took
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Speaker 4: him out. And I just think that it is very
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Speaker 4: difficult to want to be committed to a high level
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Speaker 4: of your craft and turned that off and on.
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Speaker 1: I tell you what's crazy, man. I went back and
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Speaker 1: watched Kirk's reels or shorts, and I think at the time,
23:29
Speaker 1: even for us as a team, for me personally, Kirk
23:34
Speaker 1: spoke to so much man. I mean I remember the clip.
23:39
Speaker 1: I can see it now when he just started just
23:41
Speaker 1: to try. How it costs to try, how it costs
23:46
Speaker 1: to pursue your dream, it costs to go after your vision.
23:51
Speaker 1: And I mean it was just Jim after gym after
23:54
Speaker 1: gym and God again, God aligned it. I had just
23:59
Speaker 1: felmed in August, then with the Kings, then of Kings
24:08
Speaker 1: and we got blessed. While I was doing Din of Kings,
24:11
Speaker 1: they was like, yo, Kirk, you need to do doctor
24:13
Speaker 1: Jay's podcast. Kirk was like, yo, say less. And we
24:18
Speaker 1: were in Dallas. Had did a few people, and Kirk
24:22
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, I'm available. I'm pulling up. And man,
24:25
Speaker 1: when he pulled up, their brother pulled up and I
24:27
Speaker 1: mean he just dropping gym out the gym out the
24:29
Speaker 1: gym out Jim. The Kirk episode is probably my top
24:33
Speaker 1: five episode. I'm gonna say my number one. I'm gonna
24:36
Speaker 1: say David gotta be David Birds number two. I'm gonna
24:43
Speaker 1: say Taraji number two. I'm gonna say my mom's number three,
24:51
Speaker 1: number three, number three, because my mom would never like
24:55
Speaker 1: she's never been into and some of you probably gonna
24:57
Speaker 1: be like, why is it your mom number one? Because
25:00
Speaker 1: see mama isn't number one. Because David Bird like that
25:04
Speaker 1: was personal, so I gotta put that in Taraji. That
25:08
Speaker 1: was pivotal personal and pivotal. Number three with my mom
25:17
Speaker 1: was profound, was very profound. Number four, I'm gonna give
25:24
Speaker 1: that to Kirk and I'm gonna say that was purposeful.
25:32
Speaker 1: That was purposeful. And number five pretty v because that
25:39
Speaker 1: was prophetic when people are.
25:41
Speaker 3: Like pouring into you and telling you like, yes, you're dope,
25:44
Speaker 3: You're great. And you see yourself in that space too,
25:46
Speaker 3: I know you do, you know, but see it because
25:49
Speaker 3: you're so where God is going to take you. It's
25:52
Speaker 3: going to be amazing. But you have to see it
25:54
Speaker 3: for you too, Like you need to know that I
25:57
Speaker 3: am doctor J. Barnett and I am who God's called
26:00
Speaker 3: to be and everything else is just noise. Everything else.
26:03
Speaker 3: There's no more residue, there's no more things that I
26:05
Speaker 3: have to deal with, not even from this. Not like
26:08
Speaker 3: you are going to excel in everything that you do.
26:11
Speaker 3: But the decisions that you're gonna make is gonna one
26:15
Speaker 3: have to be that you want it, not for nobody else.
26:17
Speaker 3: And it pleases God to in the midst of it,
26:20
Speaker 3: nothing else outside of it, because He's gonna take you big,
26:24
Speaker 3: You're gonna take you higher, and the things that you
26:26
Speaker 3: so desire from a child, it's gonna be that.
26:30
Speaker 1: Right.
26:31
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I have to I have to release that.
26:33
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you this episode like.
26:36
Speaker 3: What you desire? You know what I'm saying, what you desire,
26:40
Speaker 3: It's gonna come, but it's gonna take a little bit
26:43
Speaker 3: more of you and him. And it's just a decipher
26:48
Speaker 3: what that looks like, you know, because everybody else gonna
26:51
Speaker 3: make the decision, they gonna say whatever.
26:53
Speaker 1: But it's like you.
26:54
Speaker 3: She's like, okay, you what is.
26:57
Speaker 1: What do you want?
26:58
Speaker 3: And you want your You see yourself around those tables,
27:02
Speaker 3: around those conversations and around those moments. You know that's
27:05
Speaker 3: gonna make you that billionaire. And not just because it
27:08
Speaker 3: sound good. No, it's gonna be things that the schooling
27:11
Speaker 3: whatever you want to open for these men, you know,
27:15
Speaker 3: these mental like whatever it is. I mean, of course
27:18
Speaker 3: I know you don't you know, close something, but whatever
27:20
Speaker 3: it is.
27:21
Speaker 1: He's gonna do it.
27:23
Speaker 4: You're doing i'mderstand.
27:24
Speaker 5: I just have to say that because you always be
27:26
Speaker 5: pouring to me, you know, and you always you know,
27:29
Speaker 5: And I told God allow people around me to be
27:31
Speaker 5: able to see me, because some people just see funny,
27:35
Speaker 5: you know, you know what I'm saying.
27:36
Speaker 3: People just see funny and pretty and all that stuff.
27:38
Speaker 3: But like do you actually see a friend like I
27:41
Speaker 3: see and I understand you. Your eyes say it so.
27:44
Speaker 1: I see appreciate it that I mean, dude, it was
27:50
Speaker 1: just like, Man, that's I'm reflecting back. Man. God, you
27:55
Speaker 1: have Sarah too, Pasta Sarah? Oh yeah, past Sarah was
28:00
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah the divorce. Man, I forgot about pastor Sara.
28:05
Speaker 1: Man that episode godh yeah, man, Pasta Sara. I'll tell you.
28:12
Speaker 1: Another episode that I really love CJ was Josh Paell.
28:20
Speaker 1: Episode was really good, major episode. The second one like it.
28:29
Speaker 1: We made up for it, but the first one I
28:32
Speaker 1: felt like. The first one was like was was killer,
28:34
Speaker 1: but you know, h out of some some way we
28:38
Speaker 1: lost the file and so we had to do it again.
28:41
Speaker 1: But it made up for The episode with Glenn was
28:43
Speaker 1: really good. Was was really good. Little Real episode was good.
28:50
Speaker 1: The episode with Joel was good. Rico Love was good.
28:59
Speaker 1: The episod so with my sister that was definitely a
29:03
Speaker 1: healing Yeah. We never well, well no, we well we
29:09
Speaker 1: never put the episode where my sister is interviewing me out.
29:14
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah we put yeah yeah, we didn't coming to
29:20
Speaker 1: yeah becoming Ja. Yeah, but you know what though, Man,
29:24
Speaker 1: where I'm at today? I couldn't put that episode out.
29:27
Speaker 1: It wouldn't fit where I'm at in life. I think
29:31
Speaker 1: it needed to be done at that time because I
29:34
Speaker 1: was able to release some things. And it also gave
29:37
Speaker 1: my sister a deeper understanding about me, because I'll say this,
29:42
Speaker 1: when you growing up in a family, I'm the only boy.
29:45
Speaker 1: I'm the oldest. So not only did I have responsibility,
29:50
Speaker 1: I've also had to be reserved in the things that
29:54
Speaker 1: I dealt with. So I couldn't really be vocal about
29:59
Speaker 1: what I felt because I was being a surrogate excuse me,
30:03
Speaker 1: I was being a surrogate father to my sisters, but
30:06
Speaker 1: then also a standing husband to my mother. So I
30:11
Speaker 1: was operating as a man at the age of thirteen.
30:14
Speaker 1: And I say this often. I just recently said this
30:16
Speaker 1: in a message. I've been a man a lot longer
30:19
Speaker 1: than I've been a son. So that episode with my
30:24
Speaker 1: sister like me talking about the suicide attempts and open like,
30:28
Speaker 1: I mean, we I really open up, and you know,
30:30
Speaker 1: I may drop that one day, but man, you know,
30:32
Speaker 1: when I look at it now, I'm like, oh my god, man,
30:34
Speaker 1: it's just so sad, you know, And not that it's sad,
30:37
Speaker 1: but the information that I'm sharing, like is very heavy.
30:42
Speaker 1: And even when I go and watch the clip, my
30:45
Speaker 1: face looks heavy, my body language looks heavy, and it's
30:49
Speaker 1: like I was still carrying some residue. And like when
30:54
Speaker 1: I look at myself now in the mirror and I
30:56
Speaker 1: look at some of that episode in particularly, like, it's
30:59
Speaker 1: just like, man, that was heavy. And believe it or not,
31:07
Speaker 1: you carry the weight of your issues in your body. Here.
31:13
Speaker 1: I'm a firm believe in that. This is why, like
31:16
Speaker 1: lymphatic drainage, it's so important for you to flush that
31:22
Speaker 1: because we hold trauma in our stomach, we hold trauma
31:26
Speaker 1: in our hips, we hold trauma in our neck, we
31:30
Speaker 1: hold trauma in our back. And I just gave you
31:33
Speaker 1: four main areas where we hold our trauma. Stomach, hips, neck,
31:39
Speaker 1: and back and a lot of times the aches and
31:43
Speaker 1: pains and all of this sort of chronic issues that
31:47
Speaker 1: we have in our body. It's from holding on to trauma.
31:50
Speaker 1: It's from holding on to unprocessed pain. And when I
31:54
Speaker 1: look at my face and I look at myself, man,
31:56
Speaker 1: I was just like ooh, man, because what had happened
32:00
Speaker 1: was I went on this fitness journey, was doing well
32:04
Speaker 1: taking care of myself. And then all of a sudden, man,
32:06
Speaker 1: I started to do a dip because I think what
32:08
Speaker 1: was happening was I was kind of wearing myself then.
32:12
Speaker 1: And it was interesting because as I was on this
32:16
Speaker 1: podcast journ I was also trying to date to you know,
32:18
Speaker 1: and be honest about that. I was trying to talk
32:20
Speaker 1: to people and trying to get to know people. And
32:25
Speaker 1: let me tell you, man, it was it was not
32:31
Speaker 1: a great idea because when you're building something that's special,
32:38
Speaker 1: it's very important that you are discerning of who you
32:47
Speaker 1: bring into your life because whoever gets close to the
32:50
Speaker 1: builder impacts how he builds or how she builds. Whoever
32:56
Speaker 1: get close to the builder has the greatest power or
33:00
Speaker 1: to disrupt what you are building, which is why you
33:05
Speaker 1: have to be so intentional about how you allow people
33:08
Speaker 1: into your space. Because once people get into your space,
33:14
Speaker 1: it gives them accessibility into your spirit, into your mind,
33:19
Speaker 1: and into your into your your your your clothes, you know.
33:25
Speaker 1: Quarters you have to be very intentional who gets into
33:27
Speaker 1: your yard. That's why you can't lay everybody in your yard,
33:30
Speaker 1: because they get in your yard, they got they can
33:33
Speaker 1: get on your porch and if you get in your porch.
33:35
Speaker 1: They gonna get in your house.
33:37
Speaker 5: Uh.
33:37
Speaker 1: Bush and Borders often talk to me about there are
33:40
Speaker 1: some people you gotta talk to over the fence. They
33:44
Speaker 1: don't get in your yard. So I learned so much
33:49
Speaker 1: about myself. Man. So I have a new book coming
33:52
Speaker 1: out next year by Penguin Random House, Pursuing Pace, phenomenal book.
34:02
Speaker 1: Do you hear me? They? Matter of fact, the publishing
34:05
Speaker 1: company just emailed me back the other day, So you
34:07
Speaker 1: should be very proud. Phenomenal book The Fords written by Taraji,
34:13
Speaker 1: phenomenal book now. And I'm not just saying, but pursuing
34:19
Speaker 1: pace is really about finding rhythm, finding flow. And while
34:23
Speaker 1: I was writing Pursuing Pace, I was also in the
34:27
Speaker 1: midst of identifying what pace would look like, for what
34:30
Speaker 1: it would look like for me in this season because
34:32
Speaker 1: my speaking didn't slow down. My speaking, in fact picked
34:36
Speaker 1: up while I'm filming podcasts, trying to squeeze three episodes
34:41
Speaker 1: in here, trying to squeeze four episodes in there. So
34:46
Speaker 1: it was a lot of adjusting, and it was a
34:49
Speaker 1: lot of pivoting. It was a lot of understanding that
34:55
Speaker 1: I may have to be agile in some areas to
34:59
Speaker 1: get it and sometimes that you know, that was the
35:03
Speaker 1: only thing that I could focus on was getting it
35:06
Speaker 1: done and finding flow and finding pace. You have to
35:12
Speaker 1: identify the rhythm of your body first, what is the
35:18
Speaker 1: rhythm within your body? Because you can be saying go here,
35:22
Speaker 1: but your body is saying no. You could be saying
35:25
Speaker 1: go in your head, but your body is saying I
35:29
Speaker 1: gotta slow down. And so if you're not on the
35:32
Speaker 1: same frequency with your mind and with your body, you
35:35
Speaker 1: can't find pace. In fact, you won't be able to
35:38
Speaker 1: identify what it looks like because you're off beat. And
35:42
Speaker 1: if you're all beat, you're not on rhythm. So everything
35:45
Speaker 1: in life needs a rhythm, and everything has a rhythm
35:48
Speaker 1: to it. When you look at how the world moves
35:51
Speaker 1: through the season, there's a rhythm and how the seasons changed.
35:57
Speaker 1: When you see the fall, when we're coming out of
35:59
Speaker 1: summer and you're enter into the fall, you see the
36:02
Speaker 1: leaves beginning to shift and change colors. They become beautiful.
36:06
Speaker 1: They turn you know, burnt orange, and you know they
36:10
Speaker 1: turn this this burgundy. You know, all of these different colors,
36:15
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, it's preparing the trees for
36:20
Speaker 1: coming out of the summer. But then you're getting ready
36:22
Speaker 1: to go into a dead season. So it's like, God,
36:26
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you this last of this little beauty,
36:30
Speaker 1: and then I'm getting ready to kill everything, right, because
36:34
Speaker 1: everything is dead in the winter, and everybody migrates, animals, humans,
36:39
Speaker 1: We all our body change. You. I don't care what
36:42
Speaker 1: type of diet you're on. In the winter. Your body
36:44
Speaker 1: is going to hold water. Your body is gonna hold
36:47
Speaker 1: weight because your your your your body is reserving because
36:52
Speaker 1: the winter time is colder, so your body has to
36:56
Speaker 1: sort of incubate itself, right, or so I say, say
37:00
Speaker 1: insulate itself. So you're gonna hold more weight in the winter. Now,
37:06
Speaker 1: notice this the rhythm of coming out of the winter
37:11
Speaker 1: and enter into the spring. In March, you start to
37:16
Speaker 1: see a little greenery, You get a little more rain.
37:20
Speaker 1: We often hear April shower, Bring April showers, bring mayflowers.
37:26
Speaker 1: You started to see the trees started to budding and
37:29
Speaker 1: all those different things. Particularly you know, we were up
37:33
Speaker 1: in Napa in the early part of the year, and
37:37
Speaker 1: most of the buddings takes place July and August and September,
37:46
Speaker 1: think late August September, they start harvesting, you know, getting
37:50
Speaker 1: ready for the wine. And so just think there's either
37:55
Speaker 1: the rhythm to how they harvest the grapes to go
37:59
Speaker 1: into the pros says of being crushed to make why
38:03
Speaker 1: the trees has a rhythm, the season has a rhythm.
38:07
Speaker 1: Everything has a rhythm in life. Why don't you? And
38:11
Speaker 1: you can't have rhythm till you understand what pace is.
38:15
Speaker 1: And pace has nothing to do with speed. It has
38:17
Speaker 1: everything to do with flow and frequency. It's not about
38:21
Speaker 1: how fast you can go. It's about cadence. And so
38:27
Speaker 1: I spent the majority of the year not only writing
38:31
Speaker 1: the book, but finding my cadence, my flow, my breathing,
38:35
Speaker 1: because your breathing changes, you know, And if you don't,
38:41
Speaker 1: and if you don't take the time to identify what
38:46
Speaker 1: your flow is, you'll always be out pace, and you'll
38:52
Speaker 1: find yourself out of breath. You'll find yourself overwhelmed, You'll
38:55
Speaker 1: find yourself over work, you'll find yourself overdoing. You want
39:00
Speaker 1: to get into the rhythm because the rhythm I always
39:03
Speaker 1: allow you to be present and where you are. And
39:06
Speaker 1: I like to say this, and I'm believe it, it's
39:08
Speaker 1: truly from the bottom of my heart. Always be where
39:10
Speaker 1: your feet are planted. Always be where your feet are planted.
39:17
Speaker 1: What has love taught me in this last season? Man?
39:30
Speaker 1: What has love taught me in this last season? Love has?
39:42
Speaker 1: Love has given me man such a different perspective man
39:45
Speaker 1: on life in this season, Man, Love has taught me
39:51
Speaker 1: what it's like to feel. I think oftentimes when it
39:55
Speaker 1: comes to us as man, we have such a difficult
39:57
Speaker 1: time feeling. And I'm not talking about touching things. I'm
40:01
Speaker 1: talking about being able to behold something, being able to
40:08
Speaker 1: behold the essence of not just the person, but the
40:11
Speaker 1: essence of their spirit, the essence of their being. And
40:17
Speaker 1: love has taught me what it's like to live again,
40:21
Speaker 1: what it's like to just be. I spent the majority
40:26
Speaker 1: of my life just existing, and love has taught me
40:30
Speaker 1: how to live alive. Love has taught me how to
40:38
Speaker 1: appreciate man, how to see life in such a different
40:44
Speaker 1: because when you think about it, bro, we were made
40:47
Speaker 1: in love. God gave us his son and love. Love
40:54
Speaker 1: has taught me how to give differently. I often gave
40:59
Speaker 1: because I was like, I want to be a good person.
41:02
Speaker 1: You know you should give because God says you should give.
41:08
Speaker 1: But love taught me where to give from? You know
41:15
Speaker 1: where you're giving from? What is that place? What is
41:18
Speaker 1: your posture when you give? You know what I mean.
41:22
Speaker 1: Love has taught me how to see myself as I am,
41:28
Speaker 1: and also how to and also how to see myself
41:31
Speaker 1: as I wish to become. Love has taught me how
41:37
Speaker 1: to just accept what is now, you know. Love has
41:45
Speaker 1: taught me how to be present. Love has taught me
41:48
Speaker 1: how to see beyond the cracks and the crevices, and
41:54
Speaker 1: to see beyond the imperfections, to see beyond all of
42:02
Speaker 1: the issues that we normally place uh as a feller,
42:12
Speaker 1: and we'll use those fellers to not receive love, and
42:15
Speaker 1: then we'll say, well, we don't need it. But I
42:17
Speaker 1: can tell you this, man, if you don't have love,
42:21
Speaker 1: you don't have nothing. And I'm not just talking about
42:23
Speaker 1: it from a romantic place, but if you don't even
42:25
Speaker 1: have love for yourself, what do you have? Love has
42:29
Speaker 1: taught me so much, man, And I'm grateful for the
42:37
Speaker 1: person that really showed me what that looks like. You know,
42:40
Speaker 1: and y'all know me. I don't talk about love. I
42:44
Speaker 1: don't talk about it man, like I'm I It's like
42:46
Speaker 1: even now I'm like, oh my god, what are you doing?
42:49
Speaker 1: But if I'm honest, that's the next phase for me,
42:54
Speaker 1: because what good is it? What good is it? If
42:57
Speaker 1: I do all of this healing and I never love,
43:03
Speaker 1: what was it for? And I think I want people
43:08
Speaker 1: to realize is that I'm not. You don't just heal
43:10
Speaker 1: just to say oh I'm healed. You heal to love better.
43:16
Speaker 1: You heal to love better. Man, to love you better,
43:19
Speaker 1: to love others better, to love your spouse, your wife,
43:23
Speaker 1: your children. You heal to love better. And that's what
43:26
Speaker 1: I've really learned, and I'm excited about what the future holds. Man.
43:32
Speaker 1: I desire marriage, I desire family, and i'm'a tell y'all,
43:36
Speaker 1: I would be the first to tell you I was
43:37
Speaker 1: ready to heal this world and never have any of
43:40
Speaker 1: those things. And one day God checked me, and God
43:46
Speaker 1: checked me and says, why aren't you loving yourself in
43:50
Speaker 1: the way that I see you? And I said, I
43:56
Speaker 1: didn't think I deserved it. That's what it was. It
43:59
Speaker 1: was a lack of worthiness. A lot of us are
44:02
Speaker 1: not open to love. And I'm not just talking about
44:04
Speaker 1: love in a relationship way, because we'll quickly talk about
44:07
Speaker 1: erotic love there's a god paid love, that's aarrow's love.
44:11
Speaker 1: But when you just think about man, a lot of
44:13
Speaker 1: us just don't have self love because if you were
44:18
Speaker 1: not love well, you don't know how to appreciate yourself.
44:22
Speaker 1: If you were not love well, you don't know how
44:24
Speaker 1: to see yourself, And so that makes it very difficult
44:27
Speaker 1: for you to see others. And then you will see
44:30
Speaker 1: others through the eyes of your pain and through the
44:32
Speaker 1: eyes of your trauma, and then you would hear through
44:38
Speaker 1: the ear drums and the processing of how you were handled.
44:44
Speaker 1: And for most of us, we were not handle well.
44:47
Speaker 1: We were mishandled, so it's hard for us to handle
44:49
Speaker 1: others with care. So my shirt as I'm closing out
44:57
Speaker 1: this season fifty two like healing. This journey started with healing,
45:03
Speaker 1: is gonna end with healing. I truly want us to
45:08
Speaker 1: begin loving ourselves in the way that God sees us,
45:12
Speaker 1: because I'm telling you, man, like it has changed my life.
45:17
Speaker 1: I would be the first to tell you I was
45:19
Speaker 1: ready to love, but I was not ready to receive love.
45:24
Speaker 1: And here's the part. Here's the other part of that.
45:26
Speaker 1: I was ready to give in a way to provide.
45:31
Speaker 1: But I think even that would have been short changed
45:35
Speaker 1: for the individual because it's like, well, how do you
45:37
Speaker 1: do that if you're not gonna provide emotionally Like, that's
45:42
Speaker 1: great that you can work hard and pay a bill
45:44
Speaker 1: and you can pay some trips and this and that,
45:45
Speaker 1: because I can work hard. But then God was like,
45:48
Speaker 1: why won't you open your heart? So everybody, season, what
46:01
Speaker 1: I would you like to say to your vi mm
46:08
Speaker 1: as I'm closing Season one, fifty two episodes, fifty two
46:13
Speaker 1: cars and a deck. Healing is a journey. It's ugly,
46:25
Speaker 1: it's frustrating, it's painful. Sometime you gonna laugh. The majority
46:34
Speaker 1: of the time you gonna cry. Healing can be very
46:39
Speaker 1: agitating because I don't care what a therapist tell you.
46:48
Speaker 1: There's no real map on how they heal properly, because
46:58
Speaker 1: true healing is all going to challenge you to let
47:01
Speaker 1: go of the story that you are holding on to.
47:04
Speaker 1: In fact, healing is going to challenge you to give
47:08
Speaker 1: that story back and to pick up a new story.
47:13
Speaker 1: And it's hard because sometimes we hold onto our stories
47:16
Speaker 1: because they validate us in some way. You'd be surprised
47:21
Speaker 1: that the people who would rather hold on to a
47:24
Speaker 1: familiar story than to choose an unfamiliar story, even if
47:28
Speaker 1: it's healthier, because they know the familiar, which is why
47:32
Speaker 1: it's so difficult for people to leave relationships where they're
47:36
Speaker 1: being abused, or they're not being treated right, or being disrespectful.
47:39
Speaker 1: It's the devil they know. We often hear people talk
47:42
Speaker 1: about they could deal with the devil they know. But
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Speaker 1: when I started this journey and my first day in therapy,
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Speaker 1: when a guy asked me, will you come back? I
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Speaker 1: say yes? He said why. I said, I'm interested in
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Speaker 1: who I can become if I keep coming back. So
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Speaker 1: I want you to be interested in who you can
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Speaker 1: become if you keep doing the work, and hopefully you
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Speaker 1: keep doing the work with watching just here with doctor
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Speaker 1: J because healing is a journey, baby, and wholeness is
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Speaker 1: a destination. I'm grateful, I'm I'm happy, I'm I'm all
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Speaker 1: the things. I'm beyond excited that you lend me your
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Speaker 1: ear every Tuesday. I'm beyond excited that you repost the
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Speaker 1: clips that you share. You send it to your husband,
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Speaker 1: you send to your sons, you send to your aunts,
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Speaker 1: your sister, your mom, your girlfriends. You know. I'm I'm
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Speaker 1: just excited that you decide to share what God has
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Speaker 1: placed in me, because you know what my goal is
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Speaker 1: is to be a better instrument to fit into God's hands,
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Speaker 1: to be used by him. Listen, guys, today episode is
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Speaker 1: our final episode of season one. This is number fifty two.
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Speaker 1: I'm just talking talking about some of my favorite clips,
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Speaker 1: favorite episode, favorite moments, and also just sharing the journey
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Speaker 1: of a year, fifty two episodes, fifty two weeks that
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Speaker 1: I brought to you healing conversations, conversations that were impactful,
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Speaker 1: conversations that were powerful conversation that allowed others to be
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Speaker 1: vulnerable but also allowed them to experience healing in real time.
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Speaker 1: From the likes of the David Burrs, Taraji, Kurt Franklin,
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Speaker 1: Jason Mitchell, Gosh, I can listen, go on, my mother,
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Speaker 1: my sister, Joel, like just so many different individuals that
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Speaker 1: I got to sit down with that were so powerful
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Speaker 1: that really changed my life in the midst of it,
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Speaker 1: because every conversation allowed me to look deeper into my
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Speaker 1: own healing journey. I hope to continue to bring more
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Speaker 1: episodes where you feel connected, you feel encouraged, and you
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Speaker 1: feel inspired to take the steps to begin your healing journey.
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Speaker 1: Because healing is definitely a journey and wholeness is the destination.
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