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How to Write Children's Books Inspired by Nature (National Park Storytelling Tips) · Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors Podcast

• 5:01
  Hello,
• 5:02
  I'm
• 5:02
  Tricia
• 5:03
  Gardella,
• 5:03
  also
• 5:04
  known
• 5:04
  as
• 5:04
  National
• 5:05
  Park
• 5:05
  Grandma
• 5:06
  Mouse,
• 5:07
  Grand
• 5:07
  Canyon
• 5:08
  National
• 5:08
  Park,
• 5:09
  Book
• 5:10
  nine
• 5:11
  of
• 5:11
  our
• 5:11
  series.
• 5:12
  It's
• 5:12
  about
• 5:12
  a
• 5:13
  mouse
• 5:13
  who's
• 5:13
  learned
• 5:14
  to
• 5:14
  teleport
• 5:14
  to
• 5:15
  national
• 5:15
  parks
• 5:16
  using
• 5:16
  a
• 5:17
  computer
• 5:17
  keyboard.
• 5:19
  Fantastic.
• 5:20
  Trisha
• 5:21
  has
• 5:21
  mentioned
• 5:22
  she's
• 5:22
  written
• 5:23
  several
• 5:23
  children's
• 5:24
  books
• 5:24
  and
• 5:25
  we'll
• 5:25
  be
• 5:25
  talking
• 5:26
  about
• 5:26
  some
• 5:26
  of
• 5:26
  those
• 5:27
  today.
• 5:27
  But
• 5:27
  we're
• 5:27
  going
• 5:27
  to
• 5:28
  focus
• 5:28
  on
• 5:29
  mouse
• 5:30
  visits
• 5:30
  Grand
• 5:31
  Canyon
• 5:31
  national
• 5:31
  park,
• 5:32
  and
• 5:32
  I
• 5:32
  look
• 5:32
  forward
• 5:32
  to
• 5:33
  our
• 5:33
  conversation.
• 5:35
  Tricia,
• 5:35
  before
• 5:35
  we
• 5:36
  jump
• 5:36
  into
• 5:36
  the
• 5:36
  details
• 5:37
  of
• 5:37
  your
• 5:37
  book,
• 5:38
  can
• 5:38
  you
• 5:38
  tell
• 5:39
  us
• 5:39
  what
• 5:39
  being
• 5:40
  a
• 5:40
  children's
• 5:40
  book
• 5:40
  author
• 5:41
  means
• 5:41
  to
• 5:41
  you?
• 5:43
  I've
• 5:43
  always
• 5:43
  loved
• 5:44
  to
• 5:44
  read.
• 5:44
  I've
• 5:45
  always
• 5:45
  loved
• 5:45
  to
• 5:45
  write
• 5:46
  since
• 5:46
  I
• 5:46
  was
• 5:46
  very
• 5:47
  young.
• 5:47
  And
• 5:48
  I
• 5:49
  don't
• 5:49
  know,
• 5:49
  I
• 5:50
  didn't
• 5:50
  really
• 5:50
  start
• 5:50
  writing
• 5:51
  until
• 5:51
  I
• 5:51
  turned
• 5:51
  40
• 5:52
  and
• 5:52
  I
• 5:52
  said
• 5:52
  it's
• 5:53
  just
• 5:53
  time.
• 5:54
  And
• 5:54
  I
• 5:55
  didn't
• 5:55
  know
• 5:55
  what
• 5:55
  I
• 5:56
  really
• 5:56
  wanted
• 5:56
  to
• 5:56
  write.
• 5:57
  But
• 5:57
  7
• 5:58
  year
• 5:58
  olds
• 5:59
  chose
• 5:59
  me.
• 5:59
  So
• 6:00
  I
• 6:00
  write
• 6:00
  picture
• 6:01
  books.
• 6:02
  Besides
• 6:02
  that,
• 6:02
  I
• 6:02
  love
• 6:03
  researching
• 6:04
  for
• 6:04
  them.
• 6:04
  I
• 6:04
  call
• 6:04
  my
• 6:05
  books
• 6:06
  informational
• 6:07
  fiction.
• 6:08
  I'm
• 6:08
  curious.
• 6:09
  You
• 6:09
  said
• 6:09
  you
• 6:10
  didn't
• 6:10
  start
• 6:10
  writing
• 6:11
  till
• 6:11
  40.
• 6:12
  And
• 6:12
  it's
• 6:12
  interesting
• 6:13
  because
• 6:13
  I've
• 6:13
  actually
• 6:14
  talked
• 6:14
  to
• 6:15
  several
• 6:15
  retired
• 6:16
  teachers
• 6:17
  who
• 6:17
  actually
• 6:19
  went
• 6:19
  through
• 6:19
  their
• 6:19
  whole
• 6:20
  career
• 6:20
  retired,
• 6:21
  and
• 6:21
  then
• 6:22
  they
• 6:22
  started
• 6:23
  writing
• 6:23
  children's
• 6:24
  books.
• 6:24
  I'm
• 6:25
  curious
• 6:25
  about
• 6:26
  the
• 6:26
  inspiration
• 6:27
  of
• 6:28
  why
• 6:29
  all
• 6:29
  of
• 6:29
  a
• 6:29
  sudden
• 6:30
  at
• 6:30
  age
• 6:30
  40,
• 6:31
  you
• 6:31
  decided
• 6:32
  to
• 6:32
  do
• 6:32
  children's
• 6:33
  picture
• 6:33
  books.
• 6:34
  For
• 6:35
  one
• 6:35
  thing,
• 6:35
  they
• 6:36
  chose
• 6:37
  me.
• 6:37
  Picture
• 6:38
  books
• 6:38
  chose
• 6:38
  me.
• 6:39
  That's
• 6:39
  what
• 6:39
  I
• 6:39
  love
• 6:40
  writing
• 6:41
  and
• 6:41
  that's
• 6:42
  what
• 6:42
  I
• 6:42
  focus
• 6:42
  on
• 6:43
  now.
• 6:43
  But
• 6:44
  the
• 6:44
  main
• 6:45
  reason
• 6:45
  I
• 6:45
  started
• 6:45
  writing
• 6:46
  is
• 6:46
  that
• 6:46
  we
• 6:47
  are
• 6:47
  ranchers,
• 6:47
  we
• 6:48
  raise
• 6:48
  cattle.
• 6:49
  And
• 6:50
  I
• 6:50
  wanted
• 6:50
  the
• 6:51
  world
• 6:51
  to
• 6:51
  know
• 6:52
  that
• 6:52
  it's
• 6:52
  a
• 6:52
  real
• 6:53
  job
• 6:53
  and
• 6:53
  it's
• 6:54
  a
• 6:54
  real
• 6:54
  way
• 6:54
  of
• 6:54
  life.
• 6:55
  And
• 6:55
  I
• 6:56
  wrote
• 6:56
  a
• 6:56
  book
• 6:56
  called
• 6:56
  Just
• 6:56
  Like
• 6:57
  My
• 6:57
  dad
• 6:58
  that
• 6:58
  was
• 6:58
  published
• 6:58
  with
• 6:59
  HarperCollins
• 7:00
  back
• 7:00
  in
• 7:00
  21.
• 7:01
  Was
• 7:01
  it
• 7:01
  a
• 7:02
  children's
• 7:02
  book?
• 7:03
  It
• 7:03
  was
• 7:03
  a
• 7:03
  picture
• 7:04
  book.
• 7:04
  It's
• 7:04
  about
• 7:05
  a
• 7:05
  little
• 7:05
  boy
• 7:05
  that
• 7:05
  goes
• 7:06
  out
• 7:06
  and
• 7:06
  works
• 7:07
  the
• 7:07
  entire
• 7:07
  day
• 7:07
  with
• 7:07
  his
• 7:08
  dad.
• 7:08
  And
• 7:09
  in
• 7:09
  the
• 7:09
  end,
• 7:09
  when
• 7:10
  he's
• 7:10
  going
• 7:10
  to
• 7:10
  bed,
• 7:12
  the
• 7:12
  best
• 7:12
  thing
• 7:13
  about
• 7:13
  the
• 7:13
  whole
• 7:13
  day
• 7:14
  is
• 7:14
  that
• 7:14
  his
• 7:14
  dad
• 7:15
  tells
• 7:15
  him
• 7:15
  that
• 7:15
  one
• 7:15
  day
• 7:16
  he's
• 7:16
  going
• 7:16
  to
• 7:17
  be
• 7:17
  a
• 7:17
  great
• 7:18
  cowboy
• 7:19
  or
• 7:19
  rancher
• 7:20
  just
• 7:20
  like
• 7:21
  his
• 7:21
  dad,
• 7:22
  who
• 7:22
  was
• 7:22
  the
• 7:22
  child's
• 7:23
  grandpa.
• 7:24
  So
• 7:24
  I
• 7:24
  wanted
• 7:25
  to
• 7:25
  write
• 7:25
  about
• 7:25
  that.
• 7:26
  People
• 7:26
  talk
• 7:27
  to
• 7:27
  me
• 7:27
  a
• 7:27
  lot
• 7:27
  of
• 7:27
  times
• 7:28
  about
• 7:28
  having
• 7:28
  a
• 7:29
  hard
• 7:29
  time
• 7:29
  coming
• 7:30
  up
• 7:30
  with
• 7:30
  ideas.
• 7:31
  I
• 7:32
  think
• 7:32
  everything's
• 7:32
  an
• 7:33
  idea.
• 7:33
  I
• 7:33
  don't
• 7:33
  know
• 7:34
  why
• 7:34
  they
• 7:34
  just
• 7:34
  hit
• 7:34
  me
• 7:35
  when
• 7:35
  I
• 7:35
  don't
• 7:35
  even
• 7:35
  need
• 7:36
  them.
• 7:36
  Terrific.
• 7:37
  You
• 7:38
  wrote
• 7:38
  your
• 7:38
  first
• 7:38
  book
• 7:39
  with
• 7:39
  your
• 7:39
  father,
• 7:40
  which
• 7:40
  is
• 7:41
  awesome
• 7:42
  because
• 7:42
  I
• 7:43
  actually
• 7:43
  have
• 7:43
  written
• 7:44
  our
• 7:44
  first
• 7:45
  two
• 7:45
  children's
• 7:45
  books
• 7:46
  in
• 7:46
  the
• 7:46
  Adventures
• 7:47
  of
• 7:47
  Caboose
• 7:48
  the
• 7:48
  Rocky
• 7:48
  Mountain
• 7:48
  Bear
• 7:49
  are
• 7:50
  both
• 7:50
  written
• 7:50
  with
• 7:50
  my
• 7:51
  grandchildren
• 7:52
  and
• 7:54
  we've
• 7:54
  written
• 7:55
  38
• 7:55
  stories.
• 7:56
  We
• 7:56
  haven't
• 7:56
  published
• 7:56
  them
• 7:57
  all,
• 7:57
  but
• 7:57
  we've
• 7:57
  written
• 7:58
  38
• 7:58
  stories
• 7:58
  together.
• 7:59
  It's
• 7:59
  certainly
• 8:00
  fun
• 8:00
  when
• 8:00
  you
• 8:00
  have
• 8:01
  that
• 8:01
  family
• 8:01
  connection.
• 8:02
  Did
• 8:02
  your
• 8:03
  dad
• 8:03
  go
• 8:03
  on
• 8:03
  to
• 8:03
  write
• 8:04
  more
• 8:04
  children's
• 8:05
  books?
• 8:06
  It
• 8:06
  wasn't
• 8:06
  my
• 8:06
  dad,
• 8:07
  it
• 8:07
  was
• 8:07
  my
• 8:07
  husband's
• 8:08
  dad.
• 8:09
  Oh,
• 8:09
  sorry.
• 8:10
  This
• 8:10
  was
• 8:10
  written
• 8:11
  before
• 8:11
  I
• 8:11
  had
• 8:12
  grandkids.
• 8:13
  My
• 8:13
  son
• 8:13
  was
• 8:14
  20.
• 8:15
  Okay.
• 8:16
  And
• 8:16
  I
• 8:17
  just
• 8:17
  look
• 8:17
  back
• 8:18
  to
• 8:18
  when
• 8:18
  he
• 8:18
  was
• 8:19
  a
• 8:19
  child.
• 8:19
  He
• 8:19
  was
• 8:19
  born
• 8:20
  to
• 8:20
  be
• 8:20
  a
• 8:20
  rancher.
• 8:21
  Does
• 8:21
  your
• 8:21
  son
• 8:22
  have
• 8:22
  children?
• 8:23
  He
• 8:23
  does.
• 8:24
  He
• 8:24
  has
• 8:24
  a
• 8:24
  boy
• 8:24
  and
• 8:24
  a
• 8:25
  girl.
• 8:25
  Okay,
• 8:26
  you
• 8:26
  have
• 8:26
  to
• 8:26
  tell
• 8:26
  me
• 8:27
  a
• 8:27
  little
• 8:27
  bit
• 8:27
  about
• 8:28
  because
• 8:29
  of
• 8:29
  your
• 8:29
  first
• 8:29
  book,
• 8:30
  did
• 8:30
  your
• 8:31
  son
• 8:31
  bring
• 8:32
  his
• 8:32
  children
• 8:32
  up
• 8:33
  reading
• 8:33
  your
• 8:33
  book
• 8:34
  and
• 8:34
  your
• 8:34
  father
• 8:34
  in
• 8:34
  law's
• 8:35
  book?
• 8:35
  He
• 8:35
  did.
• 8:36
  That
• 8:36
  was
• 8:36
  probably
• 8:37
  one
• 8:37
  of
• 8:37
  the
• 8:37
  greatest
• 8:38
  joys
• 8:38
  of
• 8:38
  my
• 8:38
  life
• 8:39
  is
• 8:39
  that
• 8:39
  when
• 8:39
  my
• 8:40
  grandkids
• 8:40
  were
• 8:40
  born,
• 8:42
  when
• 8:42
  they
• 8:42
  got
• 8:42
  to
• 8:42
  be
• 8:42
  around
• 8:43
  2
• 8:43
  years
• 8:43
  old,
• 8:44
  my
• 8:44
  book
• 8:44
  was
• 8:44
  their
• 8:45
  favorite
• 8:45
  book
• 8:46
  and
• 8:46
  they
• 8:46
  didn't
• 8:46
  know
• 8:46
  grandma
• 8:47
  wrote
• 8:47
  it.
• 8:47
  They
• 8:47
  didn't
• 8:48
  understand
• 8:48
  about
• 8:48
  any
• 8:49
  of
• 8:49
  that
• 8:49
  stuff.
• 8:49
  So
• 8:50
  it
• 8:51
  made
• 8:51
  me
• 8:51
  very
• 8:51
  happy.
• 8:52
  And
• 8:53
  my
• 8:53
  son,
• 8:53
  like
• 8:54
  I
• 8:54
  said,
• 8:54
  was
• 8:54
  20
• 8:55
  and
• 8:55
  a
• 8:55
  few
• 8:56
  years
• 8:56
  later
• 8:56
  he
• 8:56
  had
• 8:57
  a
• 8:57
  son.
• 8:57
  His
• 8:58
  son
• 8:58
  is
• 8:58
  now
• 8:59
  30.
• 9:00
  So
• 9:00
  that
• 9:01
  can
• 9:01
  give
• 9:01
  you
• 9:01
  an
• 9:01
  idea
• 9:02
  that
• 9:02
  I've
• 9:02
  got
• 9:02
  a
• 9:02
  few
• 9:03
  years
• 9:04
  on
• 9:04
  me
• 9:05
  and
• 9:05
  he's
• 9:06
  also
• 9:06
  being
• 9:07
  a
• 9:07
  rancher
• 9:07
  and
• 9:08
  he's
• 9:08
  got
• 9:08
  a
• 9:08
  two
• 9:08
  year
• 9:09
  old
• 9:10
  who
• 9:10
  is
• 9:10
  just
• 9:11
  like
• 9:11
  his
• 9:11
  grandpa
• 9:11
  was
• 9:12
  and
• 9:12
  wants
• 9:12
  to
• 9:13
  be.
• 9:14
  That's
• 9:14
  all
• 9:14
  he
• 9:14
  wants
• 9:14
  to
• 9:15
  do.
• 9:15
  And
• 9:15
  he's
• 9:15
  a
• 9:16
  2
• 9:16
  year
• 9:16
  old
• 9:16
  and
• 9:16
  he
• 9:16
  loves
• 9:17
  that
• 9:17
  book.
• 9:18
  That
• 9:18
  is
• 9:19
  terrific.
• 9:21
  What
• 9:21
  a
• 9:21
  great
• 9:22
  way
• 9:22
  to
• 9:24
  start
• 9:24
  your
• 9:26
  writing
• 9:26
  career.
• 9:27
  Yeah.
• 9:27
  And
• 9:28
  you
• 9:28
  know
• 9:28
  what,
• 9:28
  like
• 9:28
  I
• 9:29
  said,
• 9:29
  even
• 9:29
  though
• 9:29
  you
• 9:29
  put
• 9:29
  it
• 9:30
  on
• 9:30
  hold
• 9:31
  now
• 9:31
  that
• 9:32
  was
• 9:32
  that
• 9:32
  your
• 9:32
  first
• 9:32
  book,
• 9:33
  were
• 9:34
  you?
• 9:34
  That
• 9:34
  was
• 9:34
  my
• 9:34
  first
• 9:35
  book
• 9:35
  ever.
• 9:36
  Were
• 9:36
  you
• 9:37
  40
• 9:37
  at
• 9:37
  the
• 9:37
  time?
• 9:39
  Yeah,
• 9:39
  I
• 9:39
  was
• 9:39
  probably
• 9:40
  over
• 9:40
  40
• 9:40
  by
• 9:40
  then.
• 9:41
  It
• 9:42
  took
• 9:42
  a
• 9:42
  couple
• 9:42
  years
• 9:44
  and
• 9:44
  I
• 9:44
  went
• 9:44
  to
• 9:44
  a
• 9:45
  conference,
• 9:46
  SCBWI
• 9:47
  conference
• 9:48
  and
• 9:48
  I
• 9:48
  heard
• 9:48
  a
• 9:49
  publisher
• 9:49
  talking.
• 9:50
  I
• 9:50
  thought,
• 9:50
  oh,
• 9:51
  I
• 9:51
  would
• 9:51
  give
• 9:51
  anything.
• 9:52
  And
• 9:52
  I
• 9:52
  thought
• 9:52
  I
• 9:53
  knew
• 9:53
  there
• 9:53
  was
• 9:53
  no
• 9:53
  chance
• 9:54
  in
• 9:54
  the
• 9:54
  world
• 9:55
  but
• 9:55
  I
• 9:55
  sent
• 9:55
  it
• 9:55
  off.
• 9:56
  Back
• 9:56
  in
• 9:56
  those
• 9:56
  days
• 9:57
  we
• 9:57
  didn't
• 9:57
  need
• 9:58
  an
• 9:58
  agent
• 9:59
  and
• 9:59
  they
• 10:00
  bought
• 10:00
  it.
• 10:01
  Isn't
• 10:01
  that
• 10:01
  terrific?
• 10:02
  Magical.
• 10:03
  It
• 10:03
  was
• 10:03
  magical.
• 10:04
  I
• 10:04
  did
• 10:04
  go
• 10:05
  on
• 10:05
  your
• 10:05
  website
• 10:06
  so
• 10:06
  the
• 10:07
  audience
• 10:07
  knows
• 10:08
  we
• 10:08
  will
• 10:08
  definitely
• 10:09
  have
• 10:09
  links
• 10:09
  to
• 10:10
  Tricia's
• 10:11
  website.
• 10:12
  And
• 10:12
  the
• 10:12
  reason
• 10:12
  I
• 10:13
  mentioned
• 10:13
  that
• 10:13
  is
• 10:14
  because
• 10:14
  Tricia
• 10:15
  has
• 10:15
  given
• 10:16
  a
• 10:16
  short
• 10:17
  history
• 10:18
  of
• 10:19
  phase
• 10:19
  one,
• 10:20
  phase
• 10:20
  two
• 10:21
  of
• 10:21
  her.
• 10:21
  Writing
• 10:21
  life
• 10:22
  on
• 10:22
  your
• 10:23
  20
• 10:23
  years
• 10:23
  off.
• 10:24
  That's
• 10:24
  why
• 10:25
  I
• 10:25
  wanted
• 10:25
  the,
• 10:26
  the
• 10:26
  listening
• 10:26
  audience
• 10:27
  to
• 10:27
  know
• 10:28
  that
• 10:28
  if
• 10:29
  you
• 10:29
  want
• 10:29
  to
• 10:29
  find
• 10:29
  out
• 10:30
  more
• 10:30
  about
• 10:31
  Trisha's
• 10:31
  background
• 10:32
  The
• 10:33
  beautiful
• 10:33
  thing
• 10:33
  in
• 10:34
  a
• 10:34
  couple
• 10:34
  of
• 10:34
  minutes
• 10:35
  Read.
• 10:35
  You
• 10:35
  can
• 10:35
  find
• 10:36
  out
• 10:36
  about
• 10:36
  her
• 10:37
  taking
• 10:37
  this
• 10:38
  20
• 10:38
  year
• 10:39
  hiatus
• 10:40
  from
• 10:40
  children's
• 10:40
  book
• 10:41
  authorship.
• 10:43
  And
• 10:43
  I
• 10:43
  could
• 10:44
  thank
• 10:44
  Covid
• 10:45
  for
• 10:45
  getting
• 10:45
  back.
• 10:46
  There
• 10:46
  are
• 10:46
  not
• 10:47
  many
• 10:47
  things
• 10:47
  to
• 10:47
  thank
• 10:47
  Covid
• 10:48
  for,
• 10:48
  but
• 10:49
  I
• 10:50
  don't
• 10:50
  think
• 10:50
  that
• 10:50
  I
• 10:51
  would
• 10:51
  gotten
• 10:51
  back
• 10:51
  to
• 10:51
  writing
• 10:52
  if
• 10:52
  it
• 10:52
  wasn't
• 10:52
  for
• 10:53
  Covid.
• 10:53
  I
• 10:54
  just
• 10:54
  felt
• 10:54
  that
• 10:54
  I
• 10:54
  was
• 10:55
  too
• 10:55
  old.
• 10:55
  It
• 10:55
  took
• 10:56
  five
• 10:56
  years
• 10:56
  between
• 10:57
  books.
• 10:57
  It's
• 10:58
  interesting,
• 10:58
  Trisha,
• 10:59
  you
• 10:59
  should
• 10:59
  say
• 10:59
  that
• 10:59
  because
• 11:00
  actually
• 11:00
  wrote
• 11:01
  two
• 11:02
  business
• 11:02
  books
• 11:03
  during
• 11:03
  COVID
• 11:05
  and
• 11:05
  I
• 11:05
  independently
• 11:06
  published
• 11:07
  them.
• 11:07
  That
• 11:07
  really
• 11:08
  gave
• 11:09
  me
• 11:09
  the
• 11:09
  skill
• 11:09
  set
• 11:10
  to
• 11:11
  when
• 11:11
  my
• 11:11
  grandchildren
• 11:12
  wanted
• 11:13
  to
• 11:13
  write
• 11:14
  a
• 11:14
  children's
• 11:15
  book.
• 11:15
  I
• 11:16
  had
• 11:16
  that
• 11:16
  skill
• 11:16
  set
• 11:17
  to
• 11:17
  be
• 11:17
  able
• 11:17
  to
• 11:17
  move
• 11:18
  into
• 11:18
  doing
• 11:19
  that.
• 11:19
  Like
• 11:19
  you
• 11:20
  said,
• 11:20
  Covid
• 11:20
  did
• 11:20
  have
• 11:21
  some
• 11:22
  positive
• 11:22
  things
• 11:24
  authorship,
• 11:24
  that's
• 11:25
  for
• 11:25
  sure.
• 11:26
  Let's
• 11:26
  jump
• 11:26
  ahead
• 11:27
  20
• 11:27
  years.
• 11:27
  Now
• 11:28
  you're
• 11:28
  a
• 11:28
  full
• 11:29
  fledged
• 11:30
  children's
• 11:31
  book
• 11:31
  author.
• 11:32
  I'm
• 11:32
  curious
• 11:33
  because
• 11:33
  when
• 11:33
  I
• 11:33
  went
• 11:34
  to
• 11:34
  your
• 11:34
  website
• 11:34
  and
• 11:34
  I
• 11:34
  thought,
• 11:35
  oh
• 11:35
  my
• 11:35
  goodness.
• 11:37
  And
• 11:37
  I
• 11:37
  want
• 11:38
  to
• 11:38
  talk
• 11:38
  to
• 11:38
  you
• 11:38
  a
• 11:38
  bit
• 11:39
  about
• 11:39
  your
• 11:39
  children's
• 11:40
  book
• 11:40
  business.
• 11:41
  As
• 11:41
  a
• 11:41
  children's
• 11:42
  author,
• 11:43
  did
• 11:43
  you
• 11:43
  develop
• 11:44
  a
• 11:44
  children's
• 11:45
  book
• 11:45
  business
• 11:45
  plan
• 11:46
  when
• 11:47
  you
• 11:47
  jump
• 11:47
  back
• 11:47
  in
• 11:48
  during
• 11:48
  COVID
• 11:49
  Very
• 11:50
  loose
• 11:50
  one.
• 11:52
  One
• 11:52
  of
• 11:52
  the
• 11:52
  things
• 11:52
  that
• 11:53
  I
• 11:53
  wanted
• 11:53
  to.
• 11:53
  I
• 11:54
  really
• 11:54
  wanted
• 11:54
  to
• 11:54
  do
• 11:55
  was
• 11:55
  I
• 11:55
  have
• 11:56
  seven
• 11:56
  grandchildren
• 11:57
  and
• 11:57
  now
• 11:57
  I
• 11:57
  have
• 11:58
  seven
• 11:58
  great
• 11:58
  grandchildren.
• 11:59
  Wow.
• 11:59
  And
• 12:00
  I
• 12:00
  wanted
• 12:01
  a
• 12:01
  book
• 12:01
  for
• 12:01
  each
• 12:01
  of
• 12:02
  them.
• 12:03
  So
• 12:03
  I
• 12:03
  do
• 12:04
  have
• 12:04
  that
• 12:04
  now.
• 12:05
  I
• 12:05
  had
• 12:05
  two
• 12:05
  born
• 12:06
  last
• 12:06
  spring
• 12:07
  and
• 12:07
  I
• 12:08
  just
• 12:08
  finished
• 12:08
  those
• 12:08
  last
• 12:09
  two
• 12:09
  when
• 12:09
  they're
• 12:09
  published
• 12:10
  and
• 12:10
  they're
• 12:10
  done.
• 12:11
  I
• 12:11
  would
• 12:11
  not
• 12:12
  recommend
• 12:12
  the
• 12:12
  way
• 12:12
  I
• 12:13
  do
• 12:13
  things
• 12:13
  to
• 12:14
  anyone.
• 12:14
  They
• 12:14
  Notice
• 12:14
  you
• 12:15
  have
• 12:15
  28
• 12:16
  soft
• 12:16
  cover
• 12:17
  and
• 12:17
  28
• 12:18
  hardcover
• 12:18
  books
• 12:19
  published.
• 12:20
  There's
• 12:20
  more
• 12:21
  than
• 12:21
  30
• 12:21
  if
• 12:21
  you
• 12:21
  count
• 12:22
  the
• 12:22
  ones
• 12:22
  that
• 12:22
  I
• 12:22
  publish
• 12:23
  traditionally.
• 12:24
  And
• 12:24
  I
• 12:24
  count
• 12:25
  them.
• 12:25
  Okay.
• 12:26
  No,
• 12:26
  that's
• 12:26
  incredible.
• 12:27
  Where
• 12:27
  I
• 12:27
  got
• 12:28
  those
• 12:28
  numbers
• 12:28
  is
• 12:28
  I
• 12:28
  went
• 12:29
  to
• 12:29
  your
• 12:29
  website
• 12:29
  and
• 12:30
  I
• 12:30
  scrolled
• 12:30
  into
• 12:31
  the
• 12:31
  books
• 12:31
  and
• 12:32
  had
• 12:32
  a
• 12:32
  look
• 12:32
  at
• 12:32
  the
• 12:33
  offerings
• 12:33
  on
• 12:33
  the
• 12:33
  website.
• 12:34
  And
• 12:35
  I
• 12:35
  also
• 12:35
  noticed
• 12:36
  that
• 12:36
  you
• 12:36
  had
• 12:37
  30
• 12:38
  plushies
• 12:38
  as
• 12:39
  part
• 12:39
  of
• 12:39
  your
• 12:40
  shopping
• 12:41
  tab.
• 12:42
  Explain
• 12:42
  a
• 12:43
  little
• 12:43
  bit
• 12:43
  about
• 12:44
  why
• 12:44
  you
• 12:44
  did
• 12:44
  that,
• 12:45
  why
• 12:45
  you
• 12:45
  added
• 12:45
  the
• 12:46
  plushies
• 12:46
  to
• 12:47
  your
• 12:48
  children's
• 12:48
  book
• 12:48
  offerings.
• 12:49
  Kids
• 12:50
  like
• 12:50
  those.
• 12:50
  And
• 12:51
  I
• 12:51
  was
• 12:51
  doing
• 12:51
  a
• 12:51
  lot
• 12:51
  of
• 12:52
  events
• 12:52
  at
• 12:53
  the
• 12:53
  time
• 12:54
  and.
• 12:54
  And
• 12:54
  besides
• 12:55
  that,
• 12:55
  I
• 12:55
  fell
• 12:55
  in
• 12:56
  love
• 12:56
  with
• 12:56
  these
• 12:56
  animals.
• 12:57
  I
• 12:57
  found
• 12:57
  a
• 12:57
  company
• 12:58
  that
• 12:58
  I
• 12:58
  really
• 12:59
  like
• 12:59
  and
• 13:00
  I
• 13:00
  would
• 13:01
  come
• 13:01
  up
• 13:01
  with
• 13:01
  an
• 13:01
  idea.
• 13:02
  Did
• 13:03
  they
• 13:03
  have
• 13:03
  these
• 13:03
  plushies
• 13:04
  in
• 13:05
  their
• 13:05
  own
• 13:07
  inventory
• 13:07
  offering?
• 13:08
  And
• 13:08
  then
• 13:09
  you
• 13:09
  wrote
• 13:09
  stories
• 13:09
  around
• 13:10
  them.
• 13:10
  Tell
• 13:10
  us
• 13:10
  about
• 13:11
  that.
• 13:11
  I
• 13:11
  have
• 13:12
  to
• 13:12
  do
• 13:12
  the
• 13:12
  story
• 13:12
  about
• 13:12
  how
• 13:13
  Mouse,
• 13:13
  which
• 13:13
  is
• 13:14
  my
• 13:14
  favorite.
• 13:15
  This
• 13:15
  is
• 13:15
  my
• 13:15
  passion
• 13:16
  right
• 13:16
  now,
• 13:16
  is
• 13:17
  the
• 13:17
  series
• 13:17
  that
• 13:18
  I
• 13:18
  started
• 13:18
  about
• 13:18
  Mouse.
• 13:19
  And
• 13:20
  it
• 13:20
  was
• 13:20
  never,
• 13:21
  I
• 13:21
  never
• 13:21
  intended
• 13:22
  to
• 13:22
  write
• 13:22
  a
• 13:22
  series
• 13:23
  ever.
• 13:23
  And
• 13:24
  I
• 13:24
  wrote
• 13:24
  a
• 13:24
  book
• 13:25
  called
• 13:25
  Absurd,
• 13:25
  said
• 13:26
  Bird.
• 13:27
  And
• 13:27
  I
• 13:27
  fell
• 13:27
  in
• 13:28
  love
• 13:28
  immediately
• 13:29
  with
• 13:29
  the
• 13:29
  mouse
• 13:29
  that
• 13:30
  the
• 13:30
  illustrator
• 13:31
  that
• 13:31
  I
• 13:31
  had
• 13:31
  did.
• 13:32
  And
• 13:32
  I
• 13:32
  thought,
• 13:33
  I
• 13:33
  gotta
• 13:33
  do
• 13:33
  more
• 13:33
  books
• 13:34
  about
• 13:34
  him.
• 13:34
  But
• 13:34
  I
• 13:34
  didn't
• 13:35
  know
• 13:35
  what
• 13:35
  I
• 13:35
  was
• 13:35
  going
• 13:35
  to
• 13:36
  do.
• 13:36
  And
• 13:37
  as
• 13:37
  a
• 13:37
  child,
• 13:39
  it
• 13:39
  went
• 13:39
  on
• 13:40
  for
• 13:40
  a
• 13:40
  while.
• 13:40
  And
• 13:40
  finally
• 13:41
  I
• 13:41
  asked
• 13:41
  Mouse
• 13:41
  what
• 13:42
  he
• 13:42
  wanted
• 13:42
  to
• 13:42
  do,
• 13:43
  and
• 13:43
  we
• 13:43
  decided
• 13:44
  that
• 13:44
  he
• 13:44
  wanted
• 13:45
  to
• 13:45
  go
• 13:45
  to
• 13:45
  national
• 13:46
  parks
• 13:46
  because
• 13:47
  as
• 13:47
  a
• 13:47
  child,
• 13:47
  I
• 13:48
  liked
• 13:48
  going
• 13:48
  to
• 13:48
  them.
• 13:49
  It's
• 13:49
  been
• 13:50
  really
• 13:50
  fun
• 13:50
  because
• 13:50
  in
• 13:51
  a
• 13:51
  lot
• 13:51
  of
• 13:51
  ways
• 13:51
  it
• 13:51
  feels
• 13:52
  like
• 13:52
  Mouse
• 13:53
  is
• 13:53
  writing
• 13:53
  the
• 13:54
  books
• 13:54
  and
• 13:54
  I
• 13:54
  go
• 13:55
  along
• 13:55
  with
• 13:55
  it.
• 13:56
  How
• 13:57
  did
• 13:57
  you
• 13:57
  get
• 13:57
  the
• 13:57
  hook
• 13:58
  of
• 13:58
  the
• 13:58
  national
• 13:58
  parks
• 13:59
  then?
• 14:00
  I
• 14:00
  live
• 14:00
  by
• 14:01
  Yosemite,
• 14:02
  and
• 14:02
  it's
• 14:02
  a
• 14:02
  very
• 14:03
  popular
• 14:03
  national
• 14:03
  park.
• 14:04
  And
• 14:05
  when
• 14:05
  I
• 14:05
  was
• 14:05
  a
• 14:06
  child,
• 14:06
  we
• 14:06
  used
• 14:06
  to
• 14:07
  go
• 14:07
  every
• 14:07
  summer
• 14:07
  somewhere
• 14:08
  and
• 14:09
  a
• 14:09
  lot
• 14:09
  of
• 14:09
  them
• 14:09
  were
• 14:09
  to
• 14:10
  national
• 14:10
  parks.
• 14:11
  I
• 14:11
  worry
• 14:12
  about
• 14:13
  our
• 14:13
  national
• 14:13
  parks
• 14:14
  now,
• 14:14
  and
• 14:15
  I
• 14:15
  really
• 14:15
  believe
• 14:16
  they
• 14:16
  need
• 14:16
  to
• 14:16
  be
• 14:17
  preserved.
• 14:18
  The
• 14:18
  reason
• 14:18
  that
• 14:19
  this
• 14:19
  is
• 14:19
  so
• 14:19
  important
• 14:19
  to
• 14:20
  me
• 14:20
  is
• 14:20
  that
• 14:20
  I
• 14:21
  think
• 14:22
  that
• 14:23
  our
• 14:23
  youngest
• 14:24
  readers,
• 14:25
  they're
• 14:25
  the
• 14:25
  foundation.
• 14:26
  And
• 14:26
  so
• 14:27
  our
• 14:27
  youngest
• 14:27
  readers
• 14:28
  need
• 14:28
  to
• 14:29
  see
• 14:29
  how
• 14:29
  important
• 14:29
  it
• 14:30
  is
• 14:30
  to
• 14:30
  protect
• 14:30
  them.
• 14:31
  They
• 14:31
  have
• 14:31
  to
• 14:31
  feel
• 14:31
  that.
• 14:32
  So
• 14:32
  I
• 14:32
  want
• 14:32
  to
• 14:32
  write
• 14:33
  fun
• 14:33
  books
• 14:34
  that
• 14:34
  draw
• 14:34
  them
• 14:35
  in,
• 14:35
  but
• 14:36
  give
• 14:36
  them
• 14:36
  information,
• 14:37
  too.
• 14:38
  I
• 14:38
  have
• 14:38
  to
• 14:38
  tell
• 14:39
  you
• 14:39
  that
• 14:40
  our
• 14:41
  books
• 14:41
  are
• 14:42
  based
• 14:43
  on
• 14:43
  the
• 14:44
  adventures
• 14:44
  of
• 14:45
  Caboose,
• 14:45
  the
• 14:45
  Rocky
• 14:46
  Mountain
• 14:46
  Bear.
• 14:46
  All
• 14:46
  of
• 14:47
  our
• 14:47
  stories,
• 14:47
  which
• 14:48
  now
• 14:48
  we
• 14:48
  have
• 14:48
  38
• 14:49
  of
• 14:49
  them
• 14:49
  written,
• 14:50
  all
• 14:50
  take
• 14:50
  place
• 14:51
  in
• 14:51
  the
• 14:51
  Canadian
• 14:52
  Rocky
• 14:52
  Mountains
• 14:53
  near
• 14:53
  Banff
• 14:54
  National
• 14:54
  Park.
• 14:55
  I
• 14:55
  love
• 14:55
  Banff.
• 14:56
  Oh,
• 14:56
  it's
• 14:57
  a
• 14:57
  beautiful
• 14:57
  park.
• 14:58
  I
• 14:58
  was
• 14:58
  very
• 14:58
  fortunate
• 14:59
  because
• 15:00
  my
• 15:01
  oldest
• 15:01
  granddaughter
• 15:02
  and
• 15:02
  myself,
• 15:03
  it
• 15:03
  all
• 15:03
  started
• 15:04
  from
• 15:04
  the
• 15:04
  adventures
• 15:05
  with
• 15:05
  her.
• 15:06
  And
• 15:06
  we've
• 15:06
  done
• 15:07
  so
• 15:07
  much
• 15:07
  in
• 15:07
  Banff
• 15:08
  national
• 15:08
  park,
• 15:09
  like
• 15:09
  horseback
• 15:10
  riding
• 15:10
  in
• 15:10
  the
• 15:11
  winter,
• 15:12
  snowshoeing,
• 15:13
  dog
• 15:13
  sled
• 15:14
  riding,
• 15:14
  learning
• 15:15
  how
• 15:15
  to
• 15:15
  ski,
• 15:16
  and
• 15:16
  then
• 15:17
  all
• 15:17
  the
• 15:17
  summer
• 15:17
  stuff
• 15:18
  like
• 15:18
  going
• 15:19
  whitewater
• 15:19
  rafting
• 15:20
  and
• 15:20
  stuff
• 15:20
  like
• 15:21
  that.
• 15:21
  So
• 15:21
  we
• 15:22
  have
• 15:22
  this
• 15:22
  attachment
• 15:23
  like
• 15:23
  you
• 15:23
  do.
• 15:23
  And
• 15:23
  it's
• 15:24
  funny,
• 15:24
  once
• 15:24
  you
• 15:25
  are
• 15:25
  close
• 15:25
  to
• 15:25
  a
• 15:26
  national
• 15:26
  park,
• 15:27
  then
• 15:28
  it
• 15:28
  just
• 15:29
  seems
• 15:29
  to
• 15:29
  get
• 15:29
  into
• 15:29
  your
• 15:30
  blood.
• 15:31
  It
• 15:31
  does,
• 15:32
  because
• 15:32
  it's
• 15:32
  a
• 15:33
  place
• 15:33
  that
• 15:34
  is
• 15:35
  closest
• 15:36
  to
• 15:36
  our
• 15:37
  original
• 15:37
  earth.
• 15:38
  I
• 15:39
  live
• 15:39
  on
• 15:39
  a
• 15:39
  ranch
• 15:40
  that
• 15:40
  is
• 15:40
  very
• 15:41
  close
• 15:41
  to
• 15:41
  our
• 15:41
  original
• 15:42
  earth.
• 15:42
  But
• 15:43
  the
• 15:43
  national
• 15:43
  parks
• 15:44
  are
• 15:44
  usually
• 15:45
  in
• 15:45
  a
• 15:45
  place
• 15:46
  that
• 15:46
  is
• 15:48
  especially
• 15:48
  special,
• 15:49
  if
• 15:49
  you
• 15:49
  can
• 15:49
  say
• 15:49
  that,
• 15:50
  like
• 15:50
  Yosemite
• 15:51
  has
• 15:51
  the
• 15:51
  most
• 15:52
  gorgeous
• 15:52
  falls.
• 15:53
  And
• 15:54
  it's
• 15:54
  in
• 15:54
  this
• 15:54
  valley
• 15:55
  that
• 15:55
  is
• 15:55
  just
• 15:56
  wonderful.
• 15:57
  In
• 15:57
  the
• 15:57
  spring,
• 15:58
  that's
• 15:58
  the
• 15:58
  best
• 15:58
  time
• 15:59
  to
• 15:59
  go,
• 15:59
  I
• 15:59
  think,
• 16:00
  or
• 16:00
  early
• 16:00
  summer.
• 16:01
  But
• 16:02
  I
• 16:02
  just
• 16:02
  love
• 16:03
  it.
• 16:03
  I
• 16:03
  never
• 16:03
  have
• 16:04
  gotten
• 16:04
  tired
• 16:04
  of
• 16:04
  it.
• 16:05
  It's
• 16:05
  nice.
• 16:05
  That's
• 16:06
  your
• 16:06
  inspiration,
• 16:07
  especially
• 16:07
  for
• 16:08
  Mouse.
• 16:09
  I
• 16:09
  want
• 16:09
  to
• 16:09
  dive
• 16:10
  into
• 16:10
  your
• 16:10
  formats
• 16:11
  before
• 16:11
  we
• 16:12
  get
• 16:12
  more
• 16:12
  into
• 16:13
  your
• 16:13
  book.
• 16:14
  So
• 16:15
  you
• 16:15
  have
• 16:16
  your
• 16:16
  books
• 16:16
  on
• 16:17
  Amazon
• 16:17
  and
• 16:18
  on
• 16:18
  your
• 16:18
  website
• 16:19
  you
• 16:19
  have
• 16:20
  them
• 16:20
  in
• 16:20
  hardcover,
• 16:21
  softcover
• 16:22
  and
• 16:22
  ebook.
• 16:23
  And
• 16:24
  do
• 16:25
  you
• 16:25
  also
• 16:25
  have
• 16:26
  them
• 16:27
  through
• 16:27
  Ingram
• 16:28
  Sparks
• 16:28
  or
• 16:28
  any
• 16:29
  other
• 16:29
  online
• 16:30
  retailers?
• 16:31
  Yes,
• 16:32
  Ingram
• 16:33
  Spark
• 16:33
  is
• 16:34
  where
• 16:34
  I
• 16:34
  publish
• 16:35
  the
• 16:36
  hardcover
• 16:36
  and
• 16:37
  softcover
• 16:38
  and
• 16:39
  I
• 16:39
  use
• 16:39
  Kindle
• 16:41
  Unlimited
• 16:42
  for
• 16:42
  the
• 16:42
  ebooks
• 16:43
  so
• 16:43
  that
• 16:43
  I
• 16:43
  can
• 16:44
  give
• 16:44
  them
• 16:44
  out
• 16:44
  every
• 16:44
  once
• 16:45
  in
• 16:45
  a
• 16:45
  while
• 16:45
  or
• 16:46
  send
• 16:46
  them
• 16:46
  for
• 16:46
  reviews,
• 16:47
  that
• 16:47
  type
• 16:48
  of
• 16:48
  thing.
• 16:48
  Yeah.
• 16:49
  Why
• 16:49
  I
• 16:49
  do
• 16:49
  that
• 16:50
  because
• 16:50
  I
• 16:50
  feel
• 16:50
  that
• 16:51
  if
• 16:51
  you
• 16:51
  really
• 16:51
  love
• 16:51
  a
• 16:52
  picture
• 16:52
  book,
• 16:52
  you'll
• 16:52
  buy
• 16:53
  the
• 16:53
  picture
• 16:53
  book
• 16:53
  too.
• 16:54
  That's
• 16:54
  what
• 16:55
  I've
• 16:55
  been
• 16:55
  finding
• 16:55
  is
• 16:56
  a
• 16:56
  lot
• 16:56
  of
• 16:56
  people
• 16:57
  do
• 16:57
  exactly
• 16:58
  as
• 16:58
  you're
• 16:58
  suggesting.
• 17:00
  Tricia
• 17:00
  is
• 17:00
  to
• 17:01
  use
• 17:01
  their
• 17:01
  ebook
• 17:02
  to
• 17:02
  actually
• 17:03
  prime
• 17:03
  the
• 17:04
  pump
• 17:04
  for
• 17:05
  soft
• 17:06
  back
• 17:06
  and
• 17:06
  hardcover
• 17:08
  book
• 17:08
  sales.
• 17:08
  That's
• 17:09
  important
• 17:09
  because
• 17:09
  they
• 17:09
  have
• 17:10
  illustrations
• 17:11
  and
• 17:11
  if
• 17:11
  you
• 17:11
  go
• 17:11
  into
• 17:12
  a
• 17:12
  bookstore,
• 17:12
  you're
• 17:12
  going
• 17:13
  to
• 17:13
  pick
• 17:13
  up
• 17:13
  the
• 17:13
  book
• 17:13
  and
• 17:13
  look
• 17:14
  at
• 17:14
  it
• 17:14
  before
• 17:15
  you
• 17:15
  buy
• 17:15
  it.
• 17:16
  I
• 17:16
  think
• 17:16
  that
• 17:17
  picture
• 17:17
  books
• 17:18
  are
• 17:18
  the
• 17:19
  most
• 17:19
  expensive
• 17:20
  to
• 17:20
  produce
• 17:21
  and
• 17:22
  the
• 17:22
  least
• 17:22
  appreciated.
• 17:23
  And
• 17:23
  yet
• 17:23
  they
• 17:24
  are
• 17:24
  the
• 17:24
  foundation
• 17:25
  of
• 17:25
  reading.
• 17:25
  Isn't
• 17:26
  that
• 17:26
  the
• 17:26
  truth?
• 17:26
  The
• 17:27
  beautiful
• 17:27
  thing
• 17:27
  I
• 17:27
  like
• 17:28
  about
• 17:28
  your
• 17:28
  ebook
• 17:29
  is
• 17:29
  I
• 17:30
  have
• 17:30
  an
• 17:30
  iPad
• 17:31
  and
• 17:32
  the
• 17:32
  colors
• 17:34
  are
• 17:34
  very
• 17:34
  vibrant.
• 17:35
  That's
• 17:35
  the
• 17:35
  one
• 17:36
  thing
• 17:36
  I
• 17:36
  will
• 17:36
  say
• 17:36
  about
• 17:37
  ebooks,
• 17:37
  even
• 17:38
  though
• 17:38
  I'm
• 17:38
  with
• 17:39
  you.
• 17:39
  I
• 17:39
  like
• 17:39
  the
• 17:39
  idea
• 17:40
  that
• 17:40
  people
• 17:40
  will
• 17:41
  purchase
• 17:41
  the
• 17:41
  paperback
• 17:42
  or
• 17:42
  the
• 17:42
  hardcover.
• 17:43
  But
• 17:44
  the
• 17:44
  vibrant
• 17:44
  colors
• 17:45
  generally
• 17:45
  on
• 17:46
  iPads
• 17:47
  is
• 17:47
  outstanding.
• 17:49
  I've
• 17:49
  been
• 17:49
  lucky.
• 17:50
  I'm
• 17:50
  happy
• 17:50
  with
• 17:51
  the
• 17:52
  books
• 17:52
  that
• 17:52
  I've
• 17:52
  had
• 17:52
  published.
• 17:53
  I've
• 17:54
  got
• 17:54
  good
• 17:54
  illustrators
• 17:55
  too.
• 17:55
  That's
• 17:56
  been
• 17:56
  a
• 17:56
  fun
• 17:56
  thing.
• 17:56
  We'll
• 17:57
  get
• 17:57
  into
• 17:57
  talking
• 17:58
  about
• 17:58
  your
• 17:58
  illustrators
• 17:59
  more
• 17:59
  because
• 18:00
  there's
• 18:00
  a
• 18:00
  lot
• 18:00
  of
• 18:00
  story
• 18:01
  there.
• 18:01
  So
• 18:02
  before
• 18:02
  we
• 18:02
  do
• 18:03
  that,
• 18:03
  I
• 18:03
  want
• 18:03
  to
• 18:03
  get
• 18:04
  into
• 18:04
  your
• 18:04
  publishing
• 18:05
  approach
• 18:06
  because
• 18:06
  a
• 18:07
  lot
• 18:07
  of
• 18:07
  aspiring
• 18:08
  children's
• 18:09
  book
• 18:09
  authors,
• 18:09
  they
• 18:09
  just
• 18:10
  don't
• 18:10
  know
• 18:10
  which
• 18:10
  way
• 18:10
  to
• 18:11
  go.
• 18:11
  I'd
• 18:11
  like
• 18:11
  to
• 18:12
  talk
• 18:12
  to
• 18:12
  you
• 18:12
  about
• 18:13
  your
• 18:13
  publishing
• 18:14
  approach,
• 18:15
  why
• 18:15
  you
• 18:15
  took
• 18:16
  your
• 18:16
  publishing
• 18:17
  method.
• 18:17
  I
• 18:18
  just
• 18:18
  love
• 18:18
  the
• 18:18
  name
• 18:19
  of
• 18:19
  your
• 18:19
  publishing
• 18:20
  company.
• 18:21
  Tricia's
• 18:21
  publishing
• 18:22
  company
• 18:22
  is
• 18:22
  named
• 18:23
  Writeham
• 18:24
  Cowgirl
• 18:25
  Publishing
• 18:25
  Publishing.
• 18:26
  So
• 18:26
  just
• 18:27
  phenomenal.
• 18:28
  Great
• 18:28
  name.
• 18:29
  Tell
• 18:29
  us
• 18:29
  the
• 18:29
  story
• 18:30
  behind
• 18:30
  that.
• 18:31
  And
• 18:31
  is
• 18:31
  this
• 18:32
  your
• 18:32
  own
• 18:32
  independently
• 18:34
  published
• 18:34
  company?
• 18:36
  It
• 18:36
  is.
• 18:37
  And
• 18:37
  the
• 18:37
  reason
• 18:38
  I
• 18:38
  came
• 18:38
  up
• 18:38
  with
• 18:38
  that
• 18:38
  is
• 18:39
  back
• 18:39
  when
• 18:39
  I
• 18:39
  was
• 18:39
  writing,
• 18:40
  back
• 18:40
  in
• 18:40
  the
• 18:40
  90s,
• 18:41
  traditionally
• 18:42
  publishing,
• 18:43
  the
• 18:43
  daughter
• 18:44
  of
• 18:44
  one
• 18:44
  of
• 18:44
  my
• 18:45
  author
• 18:45
  friends
• 18:46
  called
• 18:46
  me
• 18:46
  Write
• 18:47
  Em
• 18:47
  Cowgirl.
• 18:48
  And
• 18:48
  I
• 18:49
  just
• 18:49
  loved
• 18:49
  it,
• 18:50
  so
• 18:50
  I
• 18:50
  had
• 18:50
  to
• 18:50
  use
• 18:51
  that.
• 18:52
  Not
• 18:52
  a
• 18:52
  real
• 18:52
  cowgirl,
• 18:53
  though.
• 18:53
  I'm
• 18:54
  allergic
• 18:54
  to
• 18:54
  horses.
• 18:55
  Okay.
• 18:56
  But
• 18:56
  I
• 18:57
  love
• 18:57
  the
• 18:57
  life.
• 18:58
  And
• 18:58
  so
• 18:59
  when
• 18:59
  did
• 18:59
  you
• 19:00
  actually
• 19:00
  launch
• 19:01
  the
• 19:01
  name?
• 19:02
  It
• 19:03
  was
• 19:03
  launched
• 19:03
  probably
• 19:04
  in
• 19:04
  1995
• 19:07
  or
• 19:07
  so.
• 19:08
  I
• 19:08
  was
• 19:08
  called
• 19:08
  that,
• 19:09
  but
• 19:10
  I
• 19:10
  never
• 19:10
  used
• 19:11
  it
• 19:11
  as
• 19:11
  publisher.
• 19:12
  I
• 19:12
  used
• 19:13
  it
• 19:13
  as
• 19:13
  a
• 19:13
  publisher
• 19:14
  in
• 19:14
  2022,
• 19:17
  I
• 19:17
  didn't
• 19:17
  know
• 19:18
  there
• 19:18
  was
• 19:18
  anything
• 19:18
  called
• 19:19
  indie
• 19:19
  publishing
• 19:20
  until
• 19:20
  Covid
• 19:21
  hit.
• 19:21
  And
• 19:21
  I
• 19:22
  was
• 19:22
  doing.
• 19:22
  I
• 19:23
  was
• 19:23
  on
• 19:23
  the
• 19:23
  Internet
• 19:24
  looking
• 19:24
  at
• 19:25
  stuff
• 19:26
  and
• 19:26
  I
• 19:26
  went,
• 19:26
  oh,
• 19:26
  my
• 19:27
  God.
• 19:27
  I
• 19:27
  think
• 19:27
  it
• 19:27
  was
• 19:27
  done
• 19:28
  just
• 19:28
  for
• 19:28
  me.
• 19:29
  And
• 19:29
  I
• 19:30
  love
• 19:30
  it.
• 19:30
  Tricia,
• 19:31
  I
• 19:31
  couldn't
• 19:32
  agree
• 19:32
  with
• 19:32
  you
• 19:32
  more
• 19:32
  because
• 19:33
  we
• 19:33
  wrote
• 19:33
  our
• 19:34
  first
• 19:34
  two
• 19:35
  books
• 19:35
  during
• 19:36
  COVID
• 19:36
  I
• 19:37
  tried
• 19:37
  to
• 19:37
  get
• 19:37
  a
• 19:37
  traditional
• 19:38
  publisher.
• 19:39
  That
• 19:39
  didn't
• 19:39
  work
• 19:39
  out.
• 19:40
  And
• 19:40
  somebody
• 19:41
  said
• 19:41
  to
• 19:41
  me,
• 19:41
  why
• 19:41
  don't
• 19:42
  you
• 19:42
  just
• 19:42
  publish
• 19:42
  it
• 19:43
  yourself?
• 19:44
  And
• 19:44
  I
• 19:44
  said,
• 19:44
  oh,
• 19:44
  you
• 19:45
  can
• 19:45
  do
• 19:45
  that.
• 19:45
  And
• 19:46
  before
• 19:47
  I
• 19:47
  knew
• 19:47
  it,
• 19:47
  we
• 19:48
  set
• 19:48
  up
• 19:48
  our
• 19:48
  own
• 19:49
  independent
• 19:50
  children's
• 19:50
  book
• 19:50
  publishing
• 19:51
  company
• 19:51
  called
• 19:52
  Caboose
• 19:53
  the
• 19:53
  Rocky
• 19:53
  Mountain
• 19:54
  Bear
• 19:54
  Publishing
• 19:55
  Den.
• 19:56
  And
• 19:57
  it
• 19:57
  all
• 19:57
  started.
• 19:58
  Yeah,
• 19:58
  it's
• 19:59
  just
• 19:59
  absolutely
• 20:00
  incredible.
• 20:01
  Can
• 20:02
  you
• 20:02
  explain
• 20:02
  to
• 20:03
  us
• 20:03
  when
• 20:03
  it
• 20:03
  came
• 20:04
  to
• 20:04
  publishing
• 20:04
  your
• 20:05
  children's
• 20:05
  books,
• 20:06
  what
• 20:06
  was
• 20:06
  the
• 20:06
  biggest
• 20:06
  challenge
• 20:07
  or
• 20:07
  frustration
• 20:08
  for
• 20:08
  you
• 20:09
  in
• 20:09
  the
• 20:09
  beginning?
• 20:11
  That
• 20:11
  I
• 20:11
  knew
• 20:11
  nothing.
• 20:12
  How
• 20:12
  did
• 20:12
  you
• 20:13
  go
• 20:13
  about
• 20:13
  getting
• 20:14
  education
• 20:15
  to
• 20:15
  actually
• 20:15
  independently
• 20:16
  publish
• 20:16
  your
• 20:17
  books?
• 20:17
  I
• 20:18
  just
• 20:18
  read
• 20:18
  and
• 20:19
  I
• 20:19
  googled
• 20:20
  everything
• 20:20
  and
• 20:20
  I
• 20:21
  just
• 20:21
  read
• 20:22
  and
• 20:23
  I
• 20:23
  really
• 20:24
  have
• 20:24
  been
• 20:24
  lucky.
• 20:24
  Falling
• 20:25
  into
• 20:26
  some
• 20:26
  things,
• 20:26
  I
• 20:27
  found
• 20:27
  a
• 20:27
  couple
• 20:27
  of
• 20:28
  people
• 20:28
  that
• 20:29
  a
• 20:29
  lot
• 20:29
  of
• 20:30
  the
• 20:30
  people
• 20:30
  I
• 20:30
  was
• 20:30
  listening
• 20:31
  to
• 20:31
  weren't
• 20:31
  children's
• 20:32
  book
• 20:32
  authors.
• 20:33
  And
• 20:33
  that's
• 20:33
  been
• 20:33
  my
• 20:34
  biggest
• 20:34
  frustration
• 20:35
  through
• 20:35
  the
• 20:36
  whole
• 20:36
  time
• 20:36
  that
• 20:36
  I've
• 20:37
  been
• 20:37
  in
• 20:37
  it.
• 20:38
  There
• 20:38
  are
• 20:38
  wonderful
• 20:39
  programs,
• 20:40
  but
• 20:40
  most
• 20:41
  of
• 20:41
  them
• 20:41
  are
• 20:41
  for
• 20:42
  adult
• 20:42
  fiction.
• 20:43
  And
• 20:44
  we
• 20:44
  have
• 20:44
  similar
• 20:45
  needs.
• 20:46
  But
• 20:47
  children's
• 20:48
  book
• 20:48
  writing
• 20:48
  is
• 20:48
  a
• 20:49
  different
• 20:49
  world
• 20:50
  and
• 20:51
  I
• 20:51
  do
• 20:51
  understand
• 20:52
  it
• 20:52
  better.
• 20:53
  I
• 20:53
  don't
• 20:53
  understand
• 20:54
  marketing,
• 20:54
  and
• 20:54
  I'm
• 20:55
  still
• 20:55
  working
• 20:55
  on.
• 20:56
  That's
• 20:56
  one
• 20:56
  of
• 20:56
  the
• 20:56
  reasons
• 20:58
  is
• 20:58
  Tricia,
• 20:58
  I
• 20:59
  asked
• 20:59
  people
• 20:59
  about
• 21:00
  their
• 21:00
  children's
• 21:00
  book
• 21:01
  business
• 21:01
  because
• 21:02
  getting
• 21:02
  a
• 21:03
  children's
• 21:03
  book
• 21:04
  published
• 21:06
  can
• 21:06
  be
• 21:06
  a
• 21:07
  pretty
• 21:07
  straightforward
• 21:08
  line.
• 21:09
  And
• 21:09
  I
• 21:10
  see
• 21:10
  a
• 21:10
  lot
• 21:10
  of
• 21:10
  people
• 21:11
  be
• 21:11
  able
• 21:11
  to
• 21:11
  accomplish
• 21:12
  that
• 21:13
  task.
• 21:14
  Where
• 21:14
  the
• 21:14
  rubber
• 21:15
  meets
• 21:15
  the
• 21:15
  road
• 21:16
  is
• 21:16
  the.
• 21:17
  It
• 21:17
  comes
• 21:17
  down
• 21:17
  to
• 21:18
  the
• 21:18
  these
• 21:18
  two
• 21:19
  words
• 21:19
  now
• 21:20
  what?
• 21:21
  And
• 21:21
  exactly.
• 21:22
  It's
• 21:22
  all
• 21:22
  the
• 21:23
  sales,
• 21:23
  the
• 21:23
  marketing,
• 21:24
  the
• 21:24
  distribution.
• 21:25
  How
• 21:26
  do
• 21:26
  I
• 21:26
  go
• 21:26
  about
• 21:27
  doing
• 21:28
  that?
• 21:28
  You
• 21:28
  get
• 21:28
  people
• 21:29
  to
• 21:29
  want
• 21:29
  to
• 21:29
  talk
• 21:29
  to
• 21:30
  you.
• 21:30
  That's
• 21:30
  the
• 21:30
  biggest
• 21:31
  thing.
• 21:31
  You
• 21:32
  can
• 21:32
  have
• 21:32
  a
• 21:32
  wonderful
• 21:33
  book,
• 21:33
  but
• 21:33
  if
• 21:33
  nobody
• 21:34
  looks
• 21:34
  at
• 21:34
  it,
• 21:35
  it's
• 21:35
  not
• 21:36
  going
• 21:36
  to
• 21:36
  go
• 21:36
  anywhere.
• 21:37
  And
• 21:38
  everything
• 21:38
  that
• 21:38
  I've
• 21:39
  heard
• 21:39
  and
• 21:40
  tried
• 21:40
  and
• 21:41
  most
• 21:41
  people
• 21:42
  write
• 21:42
  one
• 21:42
  book
• 21:43
  and
• 21:43
  then
• 21:44
  they
• 21:44
  go
• 21:44
  out
• 21:44
  and
• 21:45
  sell
• 21:45
  it
• 21:46
  or
• 21:46
  try
• 21:47
  to
• 21:47
  get
• 21:47
  it
• 21:47
  seen
• 21:47
  or
• 21:48
  whatever.
• 21:49
  It's
• 21:49
  good
• 21:49
  to
• 21:49
  have
• 21:50
  a
• 21:50
  couple
• 21:50
  other
• 21:50
  ones
• 21:51
  too
• 21:51
  that
• 21:51
  are
• 21:51
  called
• 21:52
  back
• 21:52
  matter,
• 21:53
  as
• 21:53
  they're
• 21:54
  looking
• 21:54
  for
• 21:54
  that
• 21:54
  too.
• 21:55
  But
• 21:55
  it's
• 21:55
  not
• 21:56
  really
• 21:56
  smart
• 21:56
  to
• 21:56
  do
• 21:57
  30
• 21:57
  books
• 21:58
  and
• 21:59
  then
• 21:59
  decide,
• 21:59
  oh,
• 22:00
  I
• 22:00
  think
• 22:00
  it's
• 22:01
  time
• 22:01
  to
• 22:01
  market
• 22:01
  them.
• 22:02
  Yeah,
• 22:02
  exactly.
• 22:03
  And
• 22:03
  the
• 22:03
  reason
• 22:03
  I
• 22:04
  ask
• 22:04
  you
• 22:04
  about
• 22:04
  the
• 22:04
  plushies
• 22:05
  too,
• 22:05
  because
• 22:06
  it's
• 22:06
  interesting.
• 22:07
  We've
• 22:07
  been
• 22:08
  very
• 22:08
  fortunate.
• 22:08
  We've
• 22:08
  got
• 22:09
  our
• 22:09
  books
• 22:09
  listed
• 22:10
  in
• 22:10
  a
• 22:10
  couple
• 22:10
  of
• 22:10
  stores
• 22:11
  in
• 22:11
  the
• 22:11
  Rocky
• 22:11
  Mountains,
• 22:12
  in
• 22:12
  the
• 22:12
  Canadian
• 22:12
  Rocky
• 22:13
  Mountains.
• 22:14
  And
• 22:15
  one
• 22:15
  of
• 22:15
  the
• 22:15
  store
• 22:16
  owners,
• 22:16
  who
• 22:17
  was
• 22:17
  the
• 22:17
  original
• 22:18
  supporter
• 22:18
  of
• 22:18
  our
• 22:18
  books,
• 22:19
  he
• 22:20
  said
• 22:20
  to
• 22:20
  me,
• 22:20
  rick,
• 22:21
  you
• 22:21
  should
• 22:21
  have
• 22:21
  a
• 22:22
  plushie.
• 22:22
  Because
• 22:22
  he
• 22:23
  said,
• 22:23
  every
• 22:23
  time
• 22:23
  I
• 22:24
  have
• 22:24
  a
• 22:24
  plushie
• 22:24
  that
• 22:24
  matches
• 22:25
  the
• 22:26
  character
• 22:26
  of
• 22:26
  the
• 22:26
  book,
• 22:27
  we
• 22:27
  sell
• 22:27
  more
• 22:27
  books
• 22:28
  and
• 22:28
  plushies.
• 22:28
  And
• 22:29
  I
• 22:29
  thought,
• 22:29
  oh.
• 22:30
  So
• 22:31
  it
• 22:31
  took
• 22:31
  us
• 22:31
  a
• 22:31
  couple
• 22:31
  of
• 22:32
  years,
• 22:32
  but
• 22:32
  we
• 22:32
  did
• 22:33
  finally
• 22:33
  design
• 22:34
  and
• 22:34
  have
• 22:35
  our
• 22:35
  own
• 22:35
  plushie.
• 22:36
  And
• 22:36
  that's
• 22:36
  why
• 22:36
  I
• 22:37
  asked
• 22:37
  you
• 22:37
  about
• 22:37
  how
• 22:38
  did
• 22:38
  you
• 22:38
  come
• 22:38
  about
• 22:39
  with
• 22:39
  your
• 22:39
  plushies
• 22:40
  and
• 22:41
  to
• 22:41
  support
• 22:41
  your
• 22:41
  book
• 22:42
  business?
• 22:42
  I
• 22:43
  didn't
• 22:43
  tell
• 22:43
  you
• 22:43
  that
• 22:44
  story.
• 22:44
  It's
• 22:44
  really
• 22:44
  a
• 22:45
  fun
• 22:45
  one.
• 22:45
  I
• 22:46
  felt
• 22:46
  the
• 22:46
  same
• 22:46
  as
• 22:46
  you
• 22:47
  did.
• 22:47
  I
• 22:47
  knew
• 22:47
  that
• 22:47
  plushies
• 22:48
  would
• 22:48
  help
• 22:49
  selling
• 22:49
  them,
• 22:50
  and
• 22:50
  I
• 22:50
  thought
• 22:51
  they'd
• 22:51
  especially
• 22:51
  be
• 22:52
  good
• 22:52
  in
• 22:52
  a
• 22:52
  national
• 22:52
  park.
• 22:53
  Maybe
• 22:53
  the
• 22:53
  parents
• 22:53
  would
• 22:54
  just
• 22:54
  pick
• 22:54
  that
• 22:54
  up,
• 22:54
  or
• 22:54
  they
• 22:55
  pick
• 22:55
  up
• 22:55
  both
• 22:55
  things
• 22:55
  or
• 22:56
  whatever.
• 22:57
  I
• 22:57
  designed
• 22:57
  one
• 22:58
  or
• 22:59
  told
• 22:59
  them
• 23:00
  what
• 23:00
  I
• 23:00
  wanted.
• 23:00
  I
• 23:00
  sent
• 23:00
  them
• 23:01
  the
• 23:01
  picture
• 23:01
  of
• 23:02
  my
• 23:02
  mouse
• 23:02
  and
• 23:03
  all
• 23:03
  this
• 23:03
  stuff.
• 23:04
  When
• 23:04
  I
• 23:04
  got
• 23:05
  it
• 23:05
  back,
• 23:05
  it
• 23:05
  was
• 23:05
  one
• 23:05
  of
• 23:06
  the
• 23:06
  ugliest
• 23:06
  things
• 23:06
  I'd
• 23:07
  ever
• 23:07
  seen,
• 23:07
  and
• 23:07
  I
• 23:07
  was
• 23:08
  unhappy.
• 23:09
  It
• 23:09
  didn't
• 23:10
  look
• 23:10
  like
• 23:10
  Mouse.
• 23:11
  Mouse
• 23:11
  is
• 23:11
  a
• 23:12
  little
• 23:12
  tiny
• 23:12
  thing
• 23:12
  when
• 23:13
  he's
• 23:13
  fuzzy
• 23:14
  and
• 23:15
  you
• 23:15
  just
• 23:15
  want
• 23:16
  to
• 23:16
  squeeze
• 23:16
  his
• 23:16
  cheeks.
• 23:17
  And
• 23:18
  even
• 23:18
  my
• 23:18
  grandkids
• 23:19
  think
• 23:19
  this
• 23:19
  is
• 23:20
  ugly.
• 23:20
  So
• 23:21
  it
• 23:21
  is
• 23:21
  ugly.
• 23:22
  But
• 23:23
  anyway,
• 23:24
  one
• 23:24
  day
• 23:24
  I
• 23:24
  was
• 23:25
  thumbing
• 23:25
  through
• 23:26
  Amazon,
• 23:26
  and
• 23:27
  guess
• 23:27
  what
• 23:27
  I
• 23:27
  saw?
• 23:28
  Mouse.
• 23:29
  And
• 23:29
  it
• 23:29
  was
• 23:29
  the
• 23:29
  exact
• 23:30
  mouse
• 23:31
  was
• 23:31
  my
• 23:31
  illustration.
• 23:33
  I
• 23:33
  found
• 23:33
  company
• 23:34
  that
• 23:35
  did
• 23:36
  the
• 23:36
  mice,
• 23:36
  and
• 23:37
  I
• 23:37
  ordered
• 23:37
  a
• 23:37
  bunch
• 23:37
  of
• 23:37
  them.
• 23:38
  And
• 23:38
  then
• 23:38
  I
• 23:38
  made
• 23:39
  some
• 23:39
  changes
• 23:39
  because
• 23:39
  Mouse
• 23:40
  wears
• 23:40
  a
• 23:40
  backpack,
• 23:42
  and
• 23:42
  now
• 23:42
  he's
• 23:43
  got
• 23:43
  a
• 23:43
  magic
• 23:44
  acorn
• 23:44
  that
• 23:45
  he
• 23:45
  can
• 23:45
  rub,
• 23:45
  and
• 23:46
  now
• 23:46
  he
• 23:47
  can
• 23:47
  move
• 23:47
  between
• 23:47
  places.
• 23:48
  Anyway,
• 23:48
  I
• 23:48
  want.
• 23:49
  I
• 23:49
  needed
• 23:49
  to
• 23:49
  have
• 23:49
  something
• 23:50
  like
• 23:50
  that,
• 23:50
  so
• 23:51
  I
• 23:51
  just
• 23:52
  did
• 23:52
  it
• 23:52
  myself.
• 23:53
  And
• 23:53
  now
• 23:54
  I've
• 23:54
  got
• 23:54
  a
• 23:55
  mouse
• 23:55
  that
• 23:55
  has
• 23:55
  a
• 23:55
  backpack.
• 23:56
  And
• 23:56
  I
• 23:57
  figured
• 23:57
  Mouse
• 23:58
  made
• 23:58
  it,
• 23:58
  so
• 23:58
  it
• 23:59
  doesn't
• 23:59
  have
• 23:59
  to
• 23:59
  be
• 23:59
  perfect.
• 24:00
  No,
• 24:00
  but
• 24:00
  you're
• 24:01
  absolutely
• 24:01
  right.
• 24:02
  And
• 24:02
  it's
• 24:02
  incredible
• 24:03
  because
• 24:03
  I
• 24:04
  had
• 24:04
  a
• 24:04
  Brittany
• 24:04
  Pettish
• 24:05
  episode
• 24:06
  67,
• 24:06
  and
• 24:07
  she
• 24:07
  had
• 24:07
  mentioned
• 24:08
  plushies,
• 24:09
  and
• 24:10
  she
• 24:10
  said
• 24:11
  she
• 24:11
  really
• 24:11
  didn't
• 24:12
  sell
• 24:12
  plushies,
• 24:12
  but
• 24:13
  she
• 24:13
  had
• 24:13
  them
• 24:13
  on
• 24:13
  her
• 24:14
  website.
• 24:14
  And
• 24:14
  I
• 24:14
  said,
• 24:15
  so
• 24:16
  why
• 24:16
  do
• 24:16
  you
• 24:16
  show
• 24:16
  them?
• 24:17
  When
• 24:17
  she
• 24:17
  goes
• 24:17
  to
• 24:18
  live
• 24:18
  events,
• 24:18
  she
• 24:18
  says
• 24:19
  what
• 24:19
  happens
• 24:20
  is
• 24:20
  having
• 24:21
  plushies
• 24:21
  in
• 24:22
  her
• 24:22
  booth
• 24:24
  attracts
• 24:25
  people.
• 24:25
  They
• 24:26
  do.
• 24:26
  And
• 24:27
  they
• 24:27
  come
• 24:27
  over
• 24:27
  and
• 24:28
  they
• 24:28
  want
• 24:28
  to
• 24:28
  talk
• 24:29
  to
• 24:29
  everybody
• 24:30
  about
• 24:31
  these
• 24:31
  plushies.
• 24:32
  She
• 24:33
  was
• 24:33
  able
• 24:33
  to
• 24:33
  do
• 24:34
  as
• 24:34
  you
• 24:34
  did.
• 24:35
  She
• 24:35
  went
• 24:35
  on
• 24:36
  Amazon.
• 24:36
  She
• 24:37
  ended
• 24:37
  up
• 24:37
  matching
• 24:38
  the
• 24:39
  plushies
• 24:40
  to
• 24:40
  the
• 24:40
  characters
• 24:41
  in
• 24:41
  her
• 24:41
  book.
• 24:42
  They're
• 24:42
  out
• 24:42
  there.
• 24:43
  Yes.
• 24:43
  And
• 24:44
  it's
• 24:44
  incredible
• 24:44
  because
• 24:45
  the
• 24:45
  other
• 24:45
  thing,
• 24:46
  I
• 24:46
  was
• 24:46
  talking
• 24:46
  to
• 24:47
  an
• 24:48
  author,
• 24:48
  Monica
• 24:49
  Voiku
• 24:49
  Dennist,
• 24:50
  in
• 24:50
  episode
• 24:50
  21.
• 24:51
  She
• 24:51
  wrote
• 24:51
  a
• 24:51
  book
• 24:52
  called
• 24:52
  Maggie
• 24:53
  the
• 24:53
  Military
• 24:54
  Rat.
• 24:55
  She
• 24:56
  had
• 24:56
  been
• 24:56
  asked
• 24:57
  if
• 24:57
  she
• 24:57
  would
• 24:57
  be
• 24:57
  doing
• 24:58
  a
• 24:58
  plushie.
• 24:59
  Again,
• 25:00
  it
• 25:00
  wasn't
• 25:00
  something
• 25:01
  she
• 25:01
  wanted
• 25:01
  to
• 25:01
  take
• 25:02
  on,
• 25:02
  but
• 25:02
  a
• 25:02
  friend
• 25:03
  of
• 25:03
  hers
• 25:03
  bought
• 25:03
  her
• 25:04
  book
• 25:05
  and
• 25:05
  she
• 25:05
  had
• 25:06
  two
• 25:06
  young
• 25:06
  daughters.
• 25:07
  She
• 25:07
  went
• 25:07
  on
• 25:07
  to
• 25:08
  Amazon
• 25:09
  and
• 25:09
  she
• 25:09
  found
• 25:11
  Maggie
• 25:11
  the
• 25:11
  Military
• 25:12
  Rat.
• 25:12
  She
• 25:12
  found
• 25:13
  a
• 25:13
  rat.
• 25:14
  They're
• 25:15
  better
• 25:15
  quality.
• 25:16
  They
• 25:16
  are
• 25:16
  better
• 25:17
  quality
• 25:17
  than
• 25:17
  the
• 25:18
  other
• 25:18
  one
• 25:18
  that
• 25:18
  I
• 25:18
  had.
• 25:19
  And
• 25:19
  the
• 25:20
  saddest
• 25:20
  day
• 25:21
  was
• 25:21
  when
• 25:22
  I
• 25:22
  sold
• 25:22
  more
• 25:22
  plushies
• 25:23
  at
• 25:23
  one
• 25:23
  of
• 25:23
  my
• 25:23
  events
• 25:24
  than
• 25:24
  I
• 25:24
  did
• 25:24
  books.
• 25:25
  No,
• 25:25
  that's
• 25:26
  terrific,
• 25:26
  though.
• 25:27
  Again,
• 25:27
  it
• 25:28
  comes
• 25:28
  down
• 25:28
  to
• 25:29
  when
• 25:30
  I
• 25:30
  talk
• 25:30
  to
• 25:30
  people
• 25:30
  about
• 25:31
  the
• 25:32
  building
• 25:32
  their
• 25:32
  children's
• 25:33
  book
• 25:33
  business.
• 25:34
  And
• 25:35
  I
• 25:35
  talked
• 25:35
  to
• 25:35
  Cody
• 25:36
  Bogart,
• 25:36
  episode
• 25:37
  35,
• 25:37
  who
• 25:38
  wrote
• 25:38
  a
• 25:38
  book
• 25:38
  series
• 25:39
  called
• 25:39
  Hilo
• 25:40
  Girls,
• 25:40
  and
• 25:41
  it's
• 25:41
  about
• 25:41
  women
• 25:42
  helicopter
• 25:42
  pilots.
• 25:44
  And
• 25:44
  she
• 25:44
  told
• 25:44
  me
• 25:45
  that
• 25:45
  what
• 25:46
  helped
• 25:46
  her
• 25:47
  because
• 25:47
  I
• 25:47
  think
• 25:47
  she's
• 25:48
  now
• 25:48
  launching
• 25:48
  her
• 25:49
  third
• 25:49
  or
• 25:49
  fourth
• 25:49
  book.
• 25:50
  She
• 25:50
  said,
• 25:51
  rick,
• 25:51
  if
• 25:51
  it
• 25:51
  wasn't
• 25:52
  for
• 25:52
  my
• 25:52
  T
• 25:52
  shirts
• 25:53
  and
• 25:53
  my
• 25:53
  cute
• 25:54
  logo
• 25:55
  that
• 25:55
  people
• 25:55
  just
• 25:56
  love,
• 25:56
  she
• 25:57
  said,
• 25:57
  I'm
• 25:57
  not
• 25:57
  sure
• 25:57
  if
• 25:58
  I
• 25:58
  would
• 25:58
  have
• 25:58
  been
• 25:58
  able
• 25:59
  to
• 25:59
  afford
• 25:59
  to
• 25:59
  write
• 26:00
  more
• 26:00
  children's
• 26:00
  books.
• 26:01
  Exactly.
• 26:02
  Yeah.
• 26:02
  So
• 26:02
  how
• 26:02
  do
• 26:03
  you
• 26:03
  go
• 26:03
  about
• 26:04
  funding
• 26:05
  your
• 26:05
  next
• 26:05
  book?
• 26:06
  May
• 26:06
  not
• 26:06
  come
• 26:07
  from
• 26:07
  just
• 26:07
  selling
• 26:08
  books.
• 26:09
  Yeah.
• 26:10
  I'm
• 26:10
  at
• 26:11
  a
• 26:11
  different
• 26:11
  point
• 26:11
  in
• 26:12
  life.
• 26:12
  I
• 26:12
  don't
• 26:12
  have
• 26:13
  any
• 26:13
  children
• 26:13
  that
• 26:13
  I
• 26:14
  need
• 26:14
  to
• 26:14
  support.
• 26:15
  I
• 26:16
  live
• 26:16
  by
• 26:17
  myself
• 26:17
  now.
• 26:18
  My
• 26:18
  husband
• 26:18
  died
• 26:19
  a
• 26:19
  few
• 26:20
  years
• 26:20
  ago,
• 26:20
  and
• 26:21
  this
• 26:21
  is
• 26:21
  my
• 26:21
  life.
• 26:22
  I
• 26:23
  love
• 26:23
  when
• 26:23
  it
• 26:24
  sounds
• 26:24
  like
• 26:24
  you're.
• 26:24
  Just
• 26:24
  having
• 26:25
  a
• 26:25
  blast.
• 26:26
  I
• 26:26
  am.
• 26:27
  That's
• 26:27
  terrific.
• 26:28
  You're
• 26:28
  so
• 26:28
  fascinating.
• 26:29
  When
• 26:30
  I
• 26:30
  looked
• 26:30
  at
• 26:30
  your
• 26:30
  website,
• 26:31
  I
• 26:31
  looked
• 26:32
  number
• 26:32
  of
• 26:32
  books
• 26:32
  you've
• 26:32
  published,
• 26:33
  I
• 26:33
  looked
• 26:34
  at
• 26:34
  your
• 26:34
  plushies.
• 26:34
  I
• 26:35
  talked
• 26:35
  to
• 26:36
  children's
• 26:37
  book
• 26:37
  authors
• 26:37
  about
• 26:38
  their
• 26:38
  illustrators.
• 26:39
  And
• 26:40
  what
• 26:40
  was
• 26:40
  incredible
• 26:40
  to
• 26:41
  me
• 26:41
  is
• 26:41
  most
• 26:42
  of
• 26:42
  the
• 26:42
  time,
• 26:43
  even
• 26:43
  if
• 26:43
  someone's
• 26:44
  written
• 26:45
  three
• 26:46
  or
• 26:46
  four
• 26:46
  children's
• 26:47
  books,
• 26:47
  they
• 26:48
  generally
• 26:48
  stick
• 26:48
  with
• 26:49
  the
• 26:49
  same
• 26:49
  illustrator.
• 26:51
  When
• 26:52
  I
• 26:52
  look
• 26:53
  at
• 26:53
  your
• 26:54
  stable
• 26:54
  of
• 26:54
  illustrators,
• 26:56
  I
• 26:56
  noticed
• 26:57
  you
• 26:57
  had
• 26:57
  10
• 26:58
  different
• 26:58
  illustrators.
• 26:59
  And
• 26:59
  I
• 26:59
  thought,
• 26:59
  oh,
• 27:00
  my
• 27:00
  goodness,
• 27:01
  I
• 27:01
  do.
• 27:01
  And
• 27:02
  they're
• 27:02
  from
• 27:02
  all
• 27:02
  over
• 27:02
  the
• 27:02
  world.
• 27:03
  And
• 27:03
  I
• 27:03
  adore.
• 27:04
  I've
• 27:04
  done
• 27:05
  more
• 27:05
  than
• 27:05
  one
• 27:05
  book
• 27:05
  with
• 27:06
  almost
• 27:06
  all
• 27:06
  of
• 27:06
  them.
• 27:06
  I've
• 27:07
  only
• 27:07
  had
• 27:07
  two
• 27:08
  that
• 27:08
  didn't
• 27:09
  work
• 27:10
  as
• 27:10
  I
• 27:10
  envisioned.
• 27:11
  Patricia,
• 27:12
  tell
• 27:12
  us
• 27:12
  the
• 27:12
  story
• 27:13
  behind
• 27:13
  that
• 27:14
  whole
• 27:14
  journey
• 27:15
  because.
• 27:15
  And
• 27:16
  some
• 27:16
  of
• 27:16
  our
• 27:16
  guests
• 27:16
  have
• 27:17
  heard
• 27:17
  this
• 27:17
  from
• 27:17
  me
• 27:17
  before,
• 27:18
  even
• 27:19
  though
• 27:19
  I
• 27:19
  live
• 27:20
  in
• 27:20
  Canada,
• 27:21
  our
• 27:22
  children's
• 27:22
  book
• 27:23
  illustrator
• 27:23
  is
• 27:24
  in
• 27:24
  the
• 27:24
  uk
• 27:26
  and
• 27:26
  I
• 27:26
  find
• 27:26
  that
• 27:27
  all
• 27:27
  the
• 27:27
  time.
• 27:27
  I
• 27:27
  have
• 27:27
  four
• 27:28
  in
• 27:28
  the
• 27:28
  uk.
• 27:28
  Yeah,
• 27:29
  it's
• 27:29
  amazing.
• 27:30
  And
• 27:30
  it's
• 27:30
  Funny,
• 27:30
  I've
• 27:31
  talked
• 27:31
  to
• 27:31
  Canadian
• 27:32
  children's
• 27:33
  book
• 27:33
  authors
• 27:34
  and
• 27:34
  their
• 27:34
  illustrators
• 27:35
  are
• 27:35
  Americans,
• 27:36
  so
• 27:36
  you
• 27:37
  just
• 27:37
  never
• 27:37
  know.
• 27:38
  Take
• 27:38
  us.
• 27:38
  Take
• 27:39
  us
• 27:39
  on
• 27:39
  your
• 27:39
  journey
• 27:40
  here.
• 27:40
  Tell
• 27:40
  us
• 27:40
  a
• 27:40
  little
• 27:41
  bit
• 27:41
  about
• 27:42
  why
• 27:42
  you
• 27:43
  have
• 27:43
  a
• 27:43
  stable
• 27:43
  of
• 27:44
  10
• 27:44
  children's
• 27:45
  book
• 27:45
  author
• 27:45
  illustrators.
• 27:47
  There's
• 27:47
  no
• 27:47
  reason
• 27:47
  for
• 27:48
  that,
• 27:48
  except
• 27:48
  that
• 27:49
  I
• 27:49
  have
• 27:49
  something
• 27:49
  sometimes
• 27:51
  envisioned.
• 27:52
  And
• 27:53
  way
• 27:53
  back
• 27:54
  when
• 27:54
  I
• 27:54
  first
• 27:54
  started,
• 27:55
  I
• 27:55
  discovered
• 27:55
  a
• 27:56
  company
• 27:56
  called
• 27:56
  childrensillustrators.com
• 27:59
  and
• 28:00
  they
• 28:00
  are
• 28:01
  the
• 28:01
  best
• 28:01
  as
• 28:01
  far
• 28:02
  as
• 28:02
  I'm
• 28:02
  concerned.
• 28:03
  That's
• 28:03
  where
• 28:04
  I've
• 28:04
  just
• 28:05
  had
• 28:05
  really
• 28:05
  good
• 28:05
  luck.
• 28:07
  And
• 28:07
  I
• 28:08
  probably
• 28:08
  shouldn't
• 28:08
  be
• 28:08
  saying
• 28:09
  this,
• 28:09
  but
• 28:09
  I
• 28:10
  look
• 28:10
  for
• 28:10
  the
• 28:10
  ones
• 28:10
  that
• 28:11
  are
• 28:11
  not
• 28:11
  agented.
• 28:12
  Agented
• 28:13
  ones
• 28:13
  are
• 28:13
  important
• 28:14
  if
• 28:14
  you're
• 28:15
  doing
• 28:15
  something
• 28:16
  with
• 28:16
  a
• 28:16
  non
• 28:17
  English
• 28:17
  country
• 28:18
  so
• 28:19
  that
• 28:19
  maybe
• 28:20
  you'll
• 28:20
  get
• 28:20
  the
• 28:20
  information
• 28:20
  you
• 28:21
  need.
• 28:22
  I
• 28:22
  like
• 28:22
  to
• 28:22
  be
• 28:22
  able
• 28:23
  to
• 28:23
  communicate
• 28:23
  with
• 28:24
  them
• 28:24
  direct.
• 28:25
  I've
• 28:25
  had
• 28:26
  really
• 28:26
  good
• 28:26
  luck
• 28:26
  in
• 28:27
  hearing
• 28:27
  from
• 28:27
  people
• 28:27
  right
• 28:28
  away
• 28:29
  and
• 28:29
  I
• 28:30
  am
• 28:30
  not
• 28:30
  one
• 28:31
  that
• 28:31
  tells
• 28:31
  them
• 28:31
  what
• 28:31
  I
• 28:31
  want
• 28:32
  done.
• 28:32
  I
• 28:33
  want
• 28:33
  them
• 28:33
  to
• 28:33
  see
• 28:34
  in
• 28:34
  what
• 28:34
  I've
• 28:35
  painted
• 28:35
  with
• 28:35
  my
• 28:36
  words
• 28:36
  what
• 28:36
  they
• 28:37
  see.
• 28:38
  And
• 28:38
  I've
• 28:38
  been
• 28:39
  really
• 28:39
  lucky
• 28:39
  because
• 28:40
  most
• 28:40
  of
• 28:40
  them
• 28:41
  do
• 28:41
  better
• 28:41
  than
• 28:42
  I
• 28:42
  envisioned.
• 28:43
  I
• 28:43
  don't
• 28:43
  know.
• 28:43
  I've
• 28:44
  been
• 28:44
  lucky.
• 28:45
  But
• 28:45
  like,
• 28:46
  I've
• 28:46
  had
• 28:46
  experience.
• 28:47
  I
• 28:47
  worked
• 28:48
  in
• 28:48
  traditional
• 28:49
  publishing.
• 28:49
  You
• 28:50
  had
• 28:50
  no
• 28:50
  say
• 28:51
  on
• 28:51
  anything.
• 28:52
  The
• 28:52
  only
• 28:52
  thing
• 28:53
  is
• 28:53
  that
• 28:53
  I
• 28:53
  did
• 28:53
  two
• 28:54
  books
• 28:54
  with
• 28:54
  the
• 28:54
  same
• 28:54
  illustrator
• 28:55
  that
• 28:55
  they
• 28:55
  chose
• 28:56
  and
• 28:57
  she
• 28:57
  liked
• 28:58
  what
• 28:58
  I
• 28:58
  did
• 28:59
  and
• 28:59
  she
• 28:59
  liked
• 29:00
  ranching
• 29:00
  so
• 29:01
  much
• 29:01
  and
• 29:01
  she
• 29:02
  was
• 29:02
  not
• 29:02
  a
• 29:02
  rancher
• 29:03
  that
• 29:04
  she
• 29:04
  contacted
• 29:05
  me.
• 29:06
  So
• 29:06
  I
• 29:06
  had
• 29:07
  contact
• 29:08
  with
• 29:08
  illustrators
• 29:09
  before,
• 29:10
  which,
• 29:11
  like
• 29:11
  I
• 29:11
  said,
• 29:12
  a
• 29:12
  lot
• 29:12
  of
• 29:12
  traditional
• 29:13
  never
• 29:13
  do.
• 29:14
  When
• 29:14
  you
• 29:14
  started
• 29:15
  working
• 29:15
  with
• 29:15
  the
• 29:16
  illustrators
• 29:17
  and
• 29:18
  you
• 29:18
  started
• 29:18
  creating
• 29:19
  these
• 29:19
  book
• 29:19
  series
• 29:20
  and
• 29:20
  Mouse
• 29:21
  was
• 29:21
  a
• 29:21
  character
• 29:22
  that
• 29:23
  really
• 29:23
  you
• 29:23
  loved
• 29:24
  and
• 29:24
  you
• 29:24
  saw
• 29:25
  it
• 29:25
  turning
• 29:26
  into
• 29:26
  a
• 29:26
  book
• 29:26
  series.
• 29:28
  Use
• 29:28
  the
• 29:28
  same
• 29:29
  illustrator
• 29:30
  for
• 29:31
  Mouse's
• 29:32
  series.
• 29:32
  Yes.
• 29:33
  I
• 29:33
  couldn't
• 29:33
  do
• 29:33
  it
• 29:33
  without
• 29:34
  her.
• 29:34
  I
• 29:35
  didn't
• 29:35
  know
• 29:35
  anything
• 29:35
  about
• 29:36
  her
• 29:36
  when
• 29:37
  I
• 29:37
  first
• 29:37
  asked
• 29:37
  her,
• 29:38
  but
• 29:38
  I
• 29:38
  just
• 29:38
  like
• 29:39
  whatever
• 29:40
  she
• 29:40
  showed
• 29:40
  on
• 29:41
  those
• 29:41
  pages.
• 29:42
  I
• 29:42
  heard
• 29:42
  from
• 29:43
  her
• 29:43
  in
• 29:43
  probably
• 29:44
  20
• 29:44
  minutes.
• 29:45
  And
• 29:45
  that's
• 29:45
  how
• 29:45
  she's
• 29:46
  been
• 29:46
  ever
• 29:46
  since.
• 29:47
  And
• 29:47
  you're
• 29:47
  not
• 29:47
  going
• 29:48
  to
• 29:48
  get
• 29:48
  the
• 29:48
  magic
• 29:48
  like
• 29:49
  she
• 29:49
  is.
• 29:49
  I
• 29:50
  just
• 29:50
  blessed
• 29:50
  the
• 29:50
  day
• 29:50
  that
• 29:51
  I
• 29:51
  found
• 29:51
  her
• 29:51
  and
• 29:51
  she's
• 29:52
  around
• 29:52
  my
• 29:52
  age,
• 29:52
  so
• 29:53
  it's
• 29:53
  really
• 29:53
  nice.
• 29:54
  No,
• 29:55
  that's
• 29:55
  terrific
• 29:56
  because
• 29:56
  that's
• 29:57
  one
• 29:57
  thing
• 29:57
  that
• 29:57
  I
• 29:58
  found
• 29:58
  is
• 29:59
  children's
• 29:59
  book
• 29:59
  authors
• 30:00
  have
• 30:00
  said
• 30:01
  to
• 30:01
  me,
• 30:01
  when
• 30:01
  they
• 30:01
  find
• 30:02
  an
• 30:02
  illustrator
• 30:03
  they
• 30:04
  like
• 30:04
  to
• 30:04
  work
• 30:05
  with,
• 30:06
  they're
• 30:06
  pretty
• 30:06
  loyal.
• 30:07
  We're
• 30:08
  the
• 30:08
  same
• 30:08
  way.
• 30:09
  The
• 30:10
  children's
• 30:10
  illustrator
• 30:11
  that
• 30:11
  we're
• 30:11
  working
• 30:12
  with,
• 30:12
  he's
• 30:13
  a
• 30:13
  terrific
• 30:13
  guy
• 30:14
  and.
• 30:15
  And
• 30:15
  he's
• 30:15
  been
• 30:15
  a
• 30:16
  real
• 30:16
  pleasure
• 30:16
  to
• 30:16
  work
• 30:16
  with.
• 30:17
  And
• 30:17
  he
• 30:17
  gets
• 30:17
  it.
• 30:18
  He
• 30:18
  gets
• 30:18
  what
• 30:19
  we're
• 30:19
  trying
• 30:19
  to
• 30:19
  capture.
• 30:20
  And
• 30:21
  in
• 30:21
  our
• 30:21
  case,
• 30:22
  all
• 30:23
  of
• 30:23
  the
• 30:23
  children's
• 30:24
  book
• 30:24
  stories
• 30:25
  that
• 30:25
  we've
• 30:25
  written
• 30:26
  are
• 30:26
  based
• 30:26
  on
• 30:27
  a
• 30:27
  nugget
• 30:27
  of
• 30:28
  truth
• 30:28
  with
• 30:28
  my
• 30:29
  grandchildren.
• 30:30
  Well,
• 30:31
  all
• 30:31
  of
• 30:31
  our
• 30:32
  characters
• 30:33
  are
• 30:34
  animals
• 30:34
  in
• 30:35
  our
• 30:35
  children's
• 30:35
  books,
• 30:36
  but
• 30:36
  the
• 30:37
  stories
• 30:37
  are
• 30:37
  based
• 30:38
  on
• 30:38
  real
• 30:38
  life
• 30:39
  situations
• 30:40
  where
• 30:40
  I'll
• 30:40
  send
• 30:40
  them
• 30:41
  pictures
• 30:41
  of
• 30:42
  us
• 30:43
  doing
• 30:43
  things
• 30:44
  to
• 30:44
  develop
• 30:45
  the
• 30:45
  story.
• 30:46
  And
• 30:46
  he
• 30:46
  comes
• 30:46
  back
• 30:47
  with
• 30:47
  the
• 30:47
  characters,
• 30:48
  and
• 30:49
  it's
• 30:49
  just
• 30:49
  been
• 30:50
  an
• 30:50
  incredible
• 30:51
  look.
• 30:51
  That's
• 30:51
  the
• 30:51
  magic.
• 30:52
  Yeah,
• 30:52
  that's
• 30:52
  the
• 30:53
  magic
• 30:53
  is
• 30:53
  when
• 30:53
  you
• 30:54
  see
• 30:55
  how
• 30:55
  they
• 30:57
  set
• 30:57
  it
• 30:57
  up.
• 30:57
  I
• 30:57
  got
• 30:58
  an
• 30:58
  idea
• 30:58
  that
• 30:58
  I
• 30:59
  couldn't
• 30:59
  stand
• 30:59
  not
• 31:00
  saying
• 31:00
  anything
• 31:00
  about
• 31:01
  to
• 31:01
  Ginger,
• 31:02
  and
• 31:02
  she's
• 31:03
  working
• 31:03
  on
• 31:03
  another
• 31:03
  book.
• 31:05
  And
• 31:05
  I
• 31:05
  said,
• 31:06
  okay,
• 31:06
  what
• 31:06
  do
• 31:06
  you
• 31:06
  think
• 31:06
  about
• 31:07
  that?
• 31:07
  And
• 31:07
  it's.
• 31:08
  The
• 31:08
  problem
• 31:08
  is
• 31:09
  we
• 31:09
  have
• 31:09
  63
• 31:10
  national
• 31:10
  parks
• 31:10
  in
• 31:11
  the
• 31:11
  United
• 31:11
  States.
• 31:12
  Maybe
• 31:12
  more
• 31:12
  now,
• 31:13
  I
• 31:13
  don't
• 31:13
  know,
• 31:13
  but
• 31:13
  we
• 31:13
  had
• 31:14
  63.
• 31:14
  There's
• 31:15
  no
• 31:15
  way
• 31:15
  that
• 31:16
  I'm
• 31:16
  going
• 31:16
  to
• 31:16
  be
• 31:16
  able
• 31:16
  to
• 31:16
  write
• 31:17
  a
• 31:17
  book
• 31:17
  for
• 31:17
  63
• 31:18
  national
• 31:18
  parks
• 31:19
  at
• 31:19
  my
• 31:19
  age.
• 31:20
  One
• 31:20
  of
• 31:20
  them
• 31:21
  we
• 31:21
  did
• 31:21
  on
• 31:21
  multiple
• 31:22
  national
• 31:22
  monuments.
• 31:24
  Okay.
• 31:24
  Gave
• 31:25
  me
• 31:25
  the
• 31:25
  idea.
• 31:25
  But
• 31:25
  anyway,
• 31:26
  I
• 31:27
  asked
• 31:27
  him
• 31:27
  what
• 31:27
  you
• 31:28
  would
• 31:28
  think
• 31:28
  about
• 31:28
  the
• 31:28
  12
• 31:29
  days
• 31:29
  of
• 31:29
  Christmas.
• 31:30
  So
• 31:30
  we're
• 31:31
  basing
• 31:31
  one
• 31:31
  on
• 31:32
  the
• 31:32
  12
• 31:32
  days
• 31:32
  of
• 31:32
  Christmas.
• 31:33
  Mouse
• 31:34
  visits
• 31:34
  12
• 31:34
  national
• 31:35
  parks
• 31:35
  in
• 31:35
  the
• 31:35
  12
• 31:36
  days
• 31:36
  of
• 31:36
  Christmas.
• 31:37
  What
• 31:37
  a
• 31:37
  terrific
• 31:38
  idea.
• 31:39
  We
• 31:39
  can
• 31:40
  do
• 31:40
  12
• 31:40
  parks
• 31:41
  that
• 31:41
  I
• 31:41
  probably
• 31:41
  wouldn't
• 31:41
  have
• 31:41
  written
• 31:42
  about.
• 31:42
  Good
• 31:43
  for
• 31:43
  you.
• 31:43
  And
• 31:44
  she
• 31:44
  was
• 31:44
  so
• 31:44
  excited
• 31:45
  about
• 31:45
  it.
• 31:46
  You
• 31:46
  know,
• 31:47
  she's
• 31:48
  already
• 31:48
  working
• 31:48
  on
• 31:49
  it.
• 31:49
  That's
• 31:49
  how
• 31:49
  she
• 31:50
  is.
• 31:50
  Tricia,
• 31:51
  I
• 31:51
  was
• 31:51
  going
• 31:51
  to
• 31:52
  ask
• 31:52
  this
• 31:52
  question
• 31:53
  a
• 31:53
  little
• 31:53
  later,
• 31:53
  but
• 31:54
  you
• 31:54
  know
• 31:54
  what?
• 31:54
  I'm
• 31:54
  going
• 31:55
  to
• 31:55
  move
• 31:55
  this
• 31:55
  question
• 31:56
  up
• 31:56
  because
• 31:56
  you
• 31:57
  got
• 31:57
  me
• 31:57
  so
• 31:57
  darn
• 31:58
  excited
• 31:59
  and
• 31:59
  because
• 32:00
  I
• 32:00
  eventually
• 32:01
  want
• 32:01
  to
• 32:01
  get
• 32:01
  around
• 32:01
  to
• 32:02
  character
• 32:02
  development.
• 32:03
  But
• 32:03
  let's
• 32:03
  talk
• 32:04
  about
• 32:05
  your
• 32:05
  character
• 32:06
  development
• 32:07
  and
• 32:07
  your
• 32:07
  nickname.
• 32:08
  National
• 32:09
  Park
• 32:09
  Grandma.
• 32:10
  I
• 32:10
  know
• 32:10
  you
• 32:11
  introduced
• 32:11
  yourself
• 32:12
  that
• 32:12
  way,
• 32:12
  but
• 32:13
  you
• 32:13
  got
• 32:13
  to
• 32:13
  give
• 32:14
  us
• 32:14
  more
• 32:14
  to
• 32:15
  tell
• 32:15
  us
• 32:15
  about
• 32:16
  this
• 32:16
  nickname
• 32:17
  and
• 32:17
  this
• 32:17
  Persona.
• 32:18
  And
• 32:18
  I
• 32:18
  even
• 32:18
  noticed
• 32:19
  on
• 32:19
  Instagram
• 32:20
  you
• 32:20
  even
• 32:20
  have
• 32:21
  yourself
• 32:22
  turned
• 32:22
  into
• 32:23
  a
• 32:23
  character.
• 32:23
  Tell
• 32:24
  us
• 32:24
  the
• 32:24
  story.
• 32:25
  I
• 32:26
  am.
• 32:27
  I
• 32:27
  did.
• 32:27
  I
• 32:27
  think
• 32:28
  just
• 32:28
  a
• 32:28
  few
• 32:28
  months
• 32:28
  older
• 32:29
  than
• 32:30
  Smokey
• 32:30
  the
• 32:30
  Bear.
• 32:33
  That
• 32:33
  I
• 32:33
  am
• 32:34
  not
• 32:34
  young.
• 32:36
  I
• 32:36
  thought
• 32:36
  you
• 32:37
  were
• 32:37
  going
• 32:37
  to
• 32:37
  tell
• 32:37
  me
• 32:37
  you
• 32:37
  went
• 32:37
  on
• 32:38
  a
• 32:38
  date
• 32:38
  with
• 32:39
  Smokey
• 32:39
  the
• 32:39
  Bear
• 32:40
  when
• 32:40
  he
• 32:40
  was
• 32:40
  younger.
• 32:41
  No.
• 32:42
  Okay.
• 32:43
  I
• 32:43
  just
• 32:43
  discovered
• 32:44
  that
• 32:44
  he
• 32:44
  turned
• 32:45
  80
• 32:45
  this
• 32:46
  year
• 32:46
  and
• 32:47
  I'm
• 32:47
  older.
• 32:48
  That's
• 32:49
  all
• 32:49
  I'm
• 32:49
  going
• 32:49
  to
• 32:49
  say.
• 32:50
  Nascar.
• 32:51
  But
• 32:51
  you
• 32:51
  want
• 32:51
  the
• 32:51
  story
• 32:52
  behind
• 32:52
  your
• 32:52
  nickname.
• 32:53
  How
• 32:53
  did
• 32:53
  this
• 32:53
  all
• 32:54
  happen?
• 32:54
  Almost
• 32:55
  the
• 32:55
  same
• 32:55
  as
• 32:55
  Write
• 32:56
  Them
• 32:56
  Cowgirl
• 32:56
  Publishing.
• 32:57
  A
• 32:57
  coach
• 32:58
  that
• 32:58
  I
• 32:58
  was
• 32:58
  working
• 32:59
  with
• 32:59
  at
• 32:59
  the
• 33:00
  time
• 33:00
  said
• 33:00
  something
• 33:01
  about,
• 33:01
  you
• 33:02
  need
• 33:02
  to
• 33:02
  make
• 33:02
  yourself
• 33:03
  the
• 33:03
  grandma
• 33:03
  of
• 33:03
  national
• 33:04
  parks.
• 33:05
  And
• 33:05
  in
• 33:05
  two
• 33:06
  seconds,
• 33:06
  it
• 33:06
  hit
• 33:06
  me.
• 33:07
  National
• 33:07
  Park
• 33:07
  Grandma.
• 33:08
  And
• 33:09
  I'm
• 33:09
  the
• 33:10
  perfect
• 33:10
  national
• 33:11
  park
• 33:11
  grandma
• 33:11
  because
• 33:12
  I
• 33:12
  love
• 33:12
  national
• 33:13
  parks,
• 33:14
  because
• 33:14
  I'm
• 33:14
  old,
• 33:15
  and
• 33:15
  because
• 33:15
  I've
• 33:16
  got
• 33:16
  seven
• 33:17
  grandkids
• 33:17
  and
• 33:17
  seven
• 33:18
  great
• 33:18
  grandkids.
• 33:19
  But
• 33:19
  I've
• 33:19
  got
• 33:19
  to
• 33:20
  tell
• 33:20
  you
• 33:20
  one
• 33:20
  more
• 33:20
  thing.
• 33:21
  I'm
• 33:21
  also
• 33:21
  an
• 33:22
  avid
• 33:22
  knitter.
• 33:22
  I've
• 33:23
  always
• 33:23
  done
• 33:23
  a
• 33:24
  lot
• 33:24
  of
• 33:24
  different
• 33:24
  crafts,
• 33:25
  but
• 33:25
  now
• 33:26
  I'm
• 33:26
  doing
• 33:26
  a
• 33:26
  lot
• 33:26
  of
• 33:26
  knitting.
• 33:27
  And
• 33:27
  last
• 33:27
  spring,
• 33:28
  I
• 33:28
  decided
• 33:28
  with
• 33:29
  great
• 33:29
  grandbabies
• 33:30
  coming,
• 33:30
  that
• 33:31
  I
• 33:31
  would
• 33:31
  make
• 33:31
  them
• 33:32
  a
• 33:32
  blanket.
• 33:32
  And
• 33:33
  I
• 33:33
  had
• 33:33
  60
• 33:34
  years
• 33:34
  worth
• 33:34
  of.
• 33:35
  Of
• 33:36
  yarn
• 33:36
  in
• 33:36
  there,
• 33:37
  and
• 33:38
  it
• 33:38
  hit
• 33:38
  me
• 33:38
  that
• 33:39
  I
• 33:39
  needed
• 33:39
  to
• 33:40
  do
• 33:40
  something
• 33:40
  with
• 33:40
  all
• 33:41
  this
• 33:41
  yarn.
• 33:41
  Starting
• 33:42
  last
• 33:42
  March,
• 33:43
  I
• 33:43
  have
• 33:44
  been
• 33:44
  making
• 33:44
  blankets,
• 33:45
  and
• 33:45
  I
• 33:45
  just.
• 33:45
  My
• 33:46
  80th.
• 33:47
  Oh,
• 33:47
  my
• 33:48
  goodness.
• 33:49
  Wow.
• 33:50
  I
• 33:50
  want
• 33:51
  what
• 33:51
  I
• 33:51
  want
• 33:51
  to
• 33:51
  do,
• 33:52
  and
• 33:52
  I
• 33:52
  don't
• 33:52
  know
• 33:52
  if
• 33:52
  I
• 33:52
  can
• 33:53
  do
• 33:53
  it,
• 33:53
  and
• 33:53
  I
• 33:53
  have
• 33:53
  no
• 33:54
  idea
• 33:54
  how
• 33:54
  it
• 33:55
  could
• 33:55
  happen,
• 33:56
  but
• 33:56
  I
• 33:56
  would
• 33:57
  love
• 33:57
  to
• 33:58
  sell
• 33:58
  them
• 33:59
  or
• 34:00
  auction
• 34:00
  them
• 34:00
  off
• 34:00
  or
• 34:01
  I
• 34:01
  don't
• 34:01
  know
• 34:01
  exactly
• 34:02
  what
• 34:02
  yet,
• 34:03
  and
• 34:03
  give
• 34:03
  the
• 34:03
  money
• 34:03
  to
• 34:04
  the
• 34:04
  national
• 34:04
  parks.
• 34:05
  That's
• 34:06
  why
• 34:06
  I'm
• 34:06
  National
• 34:06
  Park
• 34:06
  Grandma,
• 34:07
  because
• 34:08
  everybody
• 34:08
  talks
• 34:08
  about
• 34:09
  grandmas
• 34:09
  as
• 34:09
  knitters
• 34:10
  or
• 34:10
  crocheters,
• 34:11
  and
• 34:11
  they
• 34:11
  laugh
• 34:12
  at
• 34:12
  us.
• 34:13
  You
• 34:13
  still
• 34:13
  have
• 34:13
  lots
• 34:14
  of
• 34:14
  time,
• 34:15
  and
• 34:15
  I'll
• 34:15
  tell
• 34:15
  you
• 34:15
  why
• 34:16
  I'm
• 34:16
  saying
• 34:16
  that
• 34:17
  is
• 34:18
  last
• 34:18
  week,
• 34:19
  we
• 34:19
  aired
• 34:20
  a
• 34:20
  podcast
• 34:21
  episode
• 34:22
  called
• 34:23
  I'm
• 34:23
  a
• 34:23
  Big
• 34:23
  Brother
• 34:24
  with
• 34:24
  a
• 34:24
  Superpower.
• 34:25
  And
• 34:25
  the
• 34:26
  children's
• 34:26
  book
• 34:27
  author,
• 34:27
  Ann
• 34:27
  Gorst.
• 34:28
  That
• 34:28
  was
• 34:28
  her
• 34:29
  first
• 34:29
  children's
• 34:29
  book.
• 34:29
  She
• 34:30
  wrote
• 34:30
  it
• 34:31
  in
• 34:31
  her
• 34:31
  90s.
• 34:32
  If
• 34:32
  you
• 34:32
  listen
• 34:33
  to
• 34:33
  that
• 34:33
  episode,
• 34:34
  66,
• 34:34
  you'll
• 34:35
  find
• 34:35
  out
• 34:35
  that
• 34:36
  she
• 34:36
  comes
• 34:36
  from
• 34:37
  a
• 34:37
  children's
• 34:38
  entertainment
• 34:38
  background
• 34:39
  and
• 34:41
  because
• 34:41
  of
• 34:41
  a
• 34:42
  great
• 34:42
  grandchild,
• 34:43
  she
• 34:43
  wrote
• 34:44
  this
• 34:44
  book.
• 34:45
  Yeah,
• 34:45
  I'll
• 34:46
  listen
• 34:46
  to
• 34:46
  that.
• 34:46
  That's.
• 34:47
  I'm
• 34:47
  just
• 34:47
  saying
• 34:48
  to
• 34:48
  you,
• 34:48
  you're
• 34:48
  young
• 34:48
  in
• 34:49
  relative
• 34:49
  terms,
• 34:50
  to
• 34:50
  a
• 34:50
  woman
• 34:50
  who's
• 34:51
  just
• 34:51
  starting
• 34:51
  out
• 34:51
  in
• 34:51
  her
• 34:52
  90s.
• 34:53
  Yeah.
• 34:53
  Well,
• 34:54
  I
• 34:54
  got
• 34:54
  10
• 34:54
  years,
• 34:55
  then
• 34:55
  maybe
• 34:55
  I
• 34:56
  will
• 34:56
  get
• 34:56
  more.
• 34:57
  I
• 34:57
  love
• 34:58
  it.
• 34:58
  I
• 34:58
  want
• 34:59
  to
• 34:59
  come
• 34:59
  to
• 34:59
  your
• 34:59
  website.
• 35:00
  You
• 35:00
  got
• 35:00
  a
• 35:00
  great
• 35:01
  website.
• 35:02
  Talk
• 35:02
  to
• 35:02
  us
• 35:02
  about
• 35:03
  how
• 35:03
  your
• 35:03
  website
• 35:04
  developed
• 35:05
  to
• 35:05
  support
• 35:05
  all
• 35:06
  of
• 35:06
  your
• 35:06
  children's
• 35:07
  books
• 35:07
  and
• 35:07
  your
• 35:07
  plushies.
• 35:08
  I
• 35:09
  was
• 35:09
  blessed
• 35:09
  that
• 35:10
  Ginger
• 35:11
  did
• 35:12
  my
• 35:12
  banners.
• 35:13
  This
• 35:13
  is
• 35:14
  an
• 35:14
  illustrator.
• 35:15
  If
• 35:15
  I
• 35:16
  say
• 35:16
  something
• 35:16
  10
• 35:16
  minutes
• 35:17
  later,
• 35:17
  it's
• 35:17
  there.
• 35:17
  I'm
• 35:18
  just
• 35:18
  coming
• 35:18
  up
• 35:18
  with
• 35:18
  an
• 35:18
  idea
• 35:19
  sometimes,
• 35:20
  and
• 35:20
  she
• 35:21
  sends
• 35:21
  me
• 35:21
  samples,
• 35:22
  and
• 35:23
  that's
• 35:23
  what
• 35:23
  makes
• 35:23
  it
• 35:24
  so
• 35:24
  much
• 35:24
  fun.
• 35:24
  Is
• 35:25
  she
• 35:25
  limbs
• 35:26
  totally
• 35:26
  across
• 35:26
  the
• 35:27
  country
• 35:27
  from
• 35:27
  me.
• 35:28
  But
• 35:28
  we
• 35:28
  have
• 35:29
  become
• 35:29
  extremely
• 35:30
  good
• 35:30
  friends,
• 35:31
  and
• 35:32
  I'm
• 35:33
  blessed.
• 35:33
  I
• 35:33
  love
• 35:34
  that
• 35:34
  you
• 35:34
  tell
• 35:34
  that
• 35:35
  story
• 35:35
  because
• 35:36
  I
• 35:36
  always
• 35:37
  ask
• 35:37
  people
• 35:37
  about
• 35:38
  their
• 35:38
  website,
• 35:38
  and
• 35:39
  generally
• 35:39
  I'm
• 35:40
  not
• 35:40
  talking
• 35:40
  to
• 35:41
  a
• 35:41
  Children's
• 35:41
  book
• 35:41
  author
• 35:42
  with
• 35:42
  28
• 35:43
  titles.
• 35:43
  I'm
• 35:44
  generally
• 35:44
  talking
• 35:44
  to
• 35:44
  someone
• 35:45
  who's
• 35:45
  either
• 35:45
  written
• 35:46
  their
• 35:46
  first
• 35:46
  book
• 35:46
  or
• 35:47
  maybe
• 35:47
  their
• 35:47
  third
• 35:48
  or
• 35:48
  fourth
• 35:48
  book.
• 35:49
  And
• 35:49
  I
• 35:49
  always
• 35:50
  ask
• 35:50
  them
• 35:50
  what
• 35:50
  came
• 35:51
  first,
• 35:51
  their
• 35:51
  website
• 35:53
  or
• 35:53
  their
• 35:53
  children's
• 35:54
  book.
• 35:55
  And
• 35:55
  it's
• 35:55
  probably
• 35:55
  about
• 35:56
  50,
• 35:56
  50.
• 35:57
  But
• 35:57
  those
• 35:58
  who
• 35:58
  have
• 35:59
  their
• 35:59
  website
• 35:59
  come
• 36:00
  after
• 36:00
  the
• 36:01
  launch
• 36:01
  of
• 36:01
  their
• 36:01
  first
• 36:02
  children's
• 36:02
  book,
• 36:03
  they
• 36:03
  generally
• 36:04
  tell
• 36:04
  me,
• 36:05
  thank
• 36:05
  God
• 36:06
  for
• 36:06
  their
• 36:07
  illustrator
• 36:08
  because
• 36:08
  the
• 36:09
  illustrator
• 36:10
  helped
• 36:11
  bring
• 36:11
  their
• 36:11
  website
• 36:12
  to
• 36:12
  life.
• 36:12
  And
• 36:13
  that's
• 36:13
  what
• 36:13
  happened
• 36:13
  to
• 36:13
  us.
• 36:14
  So
• 36:14
  I'm
• 36:14
  just
• 36:14
  so
• 36:15
  glad
• 36:15
  that
• 36:15
  you
• 36:15
  told
• 36:16
  us
• 36:16
  the
• 36:16
  story
• 36:16
  about
• 36:17
  Ginger.
• 36:17
  How
• 36:18
  many
• 36:18
  books
• 36:18
  would
• 36:18
  you
• 36:19
  say
• 36:19
  you
• 36:19
  had
• 36:19
  written
• 36:20
  before
• 36:21
  Ginger
• 36:22
  helped
• 36:22
  you
• 36:22
  get
• 36:22
  your
• 36:22
  website
• 36:23
  up
• 36:23
  and
• 36:23
  running?
• 36:24
  Might
• 36:24
  have
• 36:24
  been
• 36:25
  my
• 36:25
  six.
• 36:25
  It
• 36:26
  was
• 36:26
  because
• 36:26
  it
• 36:26
  wasn't
• 36:27
  mouse.
• 36:27
  It
• 36:28
  was
• 36:28
  called
• 36:28
  absurd,
• 36:28
  said
• 36:29
  bird.
• 36:29
  And
• 36:29
  I
• 36:29
  always
• 36:30
  loved
• 36:30
  that.
• 36:30
  It
• 36:30
  was
• 36:31
  about
• 36:31
  a
• 36:31
  mouse
• 36:32
  that
• 36:32
  wanted
• 36:32
  to
• 36:32
  go
• 36:32
  to
• 36:33
  the
• 36:33
  moon
• 36:34
  and
• 36:34
  he
• 36:35
  talked
• 36:35
  all
• 36:35
  the
• 36:36
  farm
• 36:36
  animals
• 36:36
  into
• 36:37
  helping
• 36:37
  him
• 36:38
  build
• 36:38
  a
• 36:38
  plane
• 36:39
  so
• 36:39
  that
• 36:39
  he
• 36:40
  could
• 36:40
  go
• 36:40
  to
• 36:40
  the
• 36:40
  moon
• 36:40
  and
• 36:41
  he
• 36:41
  would
• 36:41
  bring
• 36:41
  them
• 36:41
  back
• 36:42
  cheese.
• 36:42
  And
• 36:42
  of
• 36:42
  course,
• 36:43
  birds
• 36:43
  sing
• 36:43
  absurd
• 36:44
  to
• 36:44
  everything
• 36:44
  that
• 36:44
  he
• 36:45
  does.
• 36:46
  And
• 36:46
  then
• 36:47
  when
• 36:47
  he
• 36:47
  crashes
• 36:47
  at
• 36:48
  the
• 36:48
  end,
• 36:49
  a
• 36:49
  bird
• 36:50
  goes
• 36:50
  down
• 36:50
  and
• 36:50
  scoops
• 36:50
  him
• 36:51
  up
• 36:51
  and
• 36:51
  said,
• 36:51
  now
• 36:51
  do
• 36:51
  you
• 36:52
  know
• 36:52
  why
• 36:52
  I
• 36:53
  said
• 36:53
  absurd?
• 36:54
  It
• 36:54
  takes
• 36:54
  a
• 36:55
  rocket
• 36:55
  to
• 36:55
  get
• 36:55
  to
• 36:55
  the
• 36:56
  moon.
• 36:56
  So
• 36:57
  book
• 36:57
  two
• 36:57
  is
• 36:57
  about
• 36:57
  them
• 36:58
  building
• 36:58
  a
• 36:58
  rocket.
• 36:59
  And
• 36:59
  it
• 36:59
  wasn't
• 36:59
  until
• 37:00
  the
• 37:00
  third
• 37:00
  book
• 37:01
  that
• 37:01
  I
• 37:01
  wrote
• 37:01
  about
• 37:01
  national
• 37:02
  parks.
• 37:03
  It
• 37:03
  was
• 37:03
  really
• 37:03
  fun
• 37:03
  to
• 37:04
  do
• 37:04
  it
• 37:04
  that
• 37:04
  way.
• 37:05
  Nice.
• 37:05
  And
• 37:06
  how
• 37:06
  often
• 37:06
  would
• 37:07
  you
• 37:07
  go
• 37:07
  in
• 37:08
  and
• 37:08
  have
• 37:08
  you
• 37:08
  got
• 37:09
  somebody
• 37:09
  looking
• 37:09
  after
• 37:10
  your
• 37:10
  website
• 37:10
  now
• 37:11
  in
• 37:11
  terms
• 37:11
  of
• 37:12
  keeping
• 37:12
  it?
• 37:12
  No.
• 37:13
  That's
• 37:13
  why
• 37:13
  it's
• 37:14
  always
• 37:15
  only
• 37:15
  half
• 37:15
  done.
• 37:16
  It's
• 37:17
  on
• 37:17
  my
• 37:17
  list
• 37:18
  and
• 37:18
  I
• 37:18
  promise
• 37:18
  myself
• 37:19
  I'm
• 37:19
  going
• 37:19
  to
• 37:19
  do
• 37:19
  it.
• 37:20
  I
• 37:20
  will
• 37:20
  say
• 37:20
  you've
• 37:21
  got
• 37:21
  all
• 37:21
  your.
• 37:22
  Most
• 37:22
  of
• 37:22
  your
• 37:22
  books
• 37:23
  are
• 37:24
  there
• 37:24
  and
• 37:24
  your
• 37:24
  plushie
• 37:26
  and
• 37:26
  of
• 37:27
  course
• 37:27
  your
• 37:28
  rich
• 37:28
  history
• 37:29
  of
• 37:29
  your
• 37:29
  background.
• 37:30
  What
• 37:30
  they
• 37:31
  don't
• 37:31
  have
• 37:31
  is
• 37:32
  I
• 37:32
  have
• 37:32
  now
• 37:33
  done
• 37:33
  blankets
• 37:34
  to
• 37:34
  go
• 37:34
  with
• 37:35
  most
• 37:35
  of
• 37:35
  the
• 37:35
  books.
• 37:36
  Okay.
• 37:36
  I
• 37:37
  will
• 37:37
  soon
• 37:37
  have
• 37:37
  them
• 37:37
  for
• 37:37
  all
• 37:38
  of
• 37:38
  them
• 37:38
  and
• 37:38
  they
• 37:39
  will
• 37:39
  be
• 37:39
  available
• 37:39
  on
• 37:40
  my
• 37:40
  website.
• 37:41
  That's
• 37:41
  the
• 37:41
  only
• 37:41
  place
• 37:41
  they'll
• 37:41
  be
• 37:42
  available
• 37:42
  because
• 37:42
  you
• 37:42
  can't
• 37:43
  crank
• 37:43
  them
• 37:43
  out.
• 37:43
  I
• 37:44
  can
• 37:44
  crank
• 37:44
  out
• 37:44
  quite
• 37:45
  a
• 37:45
  few,
• 37:45
  but.
• 37:46
  So
• 37:46
  it'll
• 37:47
  be
• 37:47
  basically
• 37:48
  a
• 37:48
  one
• 37:48
  of
• 37:48
  a
• 37:48
  kind
• 37:48
  thing,
• 37:49
  but
• 37:49
  I
• 37:49
  just
• 37:49
  wanted
• 37:50
  to
• 37:50
  do
• 37:50
  it.
• 37:50
  That's
• 37:50
  a
• 37:50
  terrific
• 37:51
  idea.
• 37:51
  Good
• 37:51
  for
• 37:52
  you.
• 37:53
  On
• 37:53
  your
• 37:54
  website,
• 37:54
  of
• 37:54
  course,
• 37:54
  you've
• 37:55
  got
• 37:55
  your
• 37:55
  links
• 37:55
  to
• 37:55
  your
• 37:56
  social
• 37:56
  media.
• 37:56
  Talk
• 37:57
  to
• 37:57
  us
• 37:57
  a
• 37:57
  little
• 37:57
  bit
• 37:58
  about
• 37:58
  how
• 37:58
  you're
• 37:59
  using
• 37:59
  Instagram,
• 38:00
  Facebook
• 38:01
  and
• 38:01
  Pinterest.
• 38:02
  Talk
• 38:02
  to
• 38:02
  us
• 38:02
  about
• 38:02
  how
• 38:03
  you're
• 38:03
  using
• 38:03
  your
• 38:04
  social
• 38:04
  media
• 38:05
  to
• 38:05
  promote
• 38:06
  your
• 38:06
  books.
• 38:07
  I'm
• 38:07
  still
• 38:07
  trying
• 38:08
  to
• 38:08
  figure
• 38:08
  it
• 38:08
  out.
• 38:09
  Last
• 38:09
  year
• 38:10
  I
• 38:11
  was
• 38:11
  starting
• 38:12
  pretty
• 38:12
  well.
• 38:12
  I
• 38:13
  think
• 38:13
  it
• 38:13
  was
• 38:13
  on
• 38:13
  June
• 38:13
  11
• 38:14
  that
• 38:14
  I
• 38:14
  started
• 38:15
  with
• 38:15
  National
• 38:15
  Park
• 38:15
  Grandma
• 38:16
  and
• 38:17
  got
• 38:17
  things
• 38:17
  going.
• 38:18
  And
• 38:19
  I
• 38:19
  was
• 38:19
  using
• 38:19
  Pinterest
• 38:20
  and
• 38:21
  doing
• 38:22
  some
• 38:22
  reels.
• 38:24
  And
• 38:24
  one
• 38:24
  of
• 38:25
  my
• 38:25
  coaches
• 38:25
  said
• 38:25
  that
• 38:26
  I
• 38:26
  really
• 38:26
  needed
• 38:26
  to
• 38:27
  do
• 38:27
  these
• 38:27
  reels.
• 38:27
  And
• 38:28
  I
• 38:28
  just.
• 38:29
  One
• 38:29
  day
• 38:29
  I
• 38:29
  went,
• 38:30
  who
• 38:30
  wants
• 38:31
  to
• 38:31
  listen
• 38:31
  to
• 38:31
  an
• 38:32
  old
• 38:32
  lady
• 38:33
  talking
• 38:33
  about.
• 38:33
  I
• 38:34
  was
• 38:34
  talking
• 38:34
  about
• 38:35
  things
• 38:35
  that
• 38:35
  didn't
• 38:36
  come
• 38:36
  up
• 38:36
  in
• 38:36
  the
• 38:36
  book,
• 38:37
  but
• 38:37
  around
• 38:38
  about
• 38:38
  the
• 38:38
  national
• 38:38
  parks.
• 38:39
  And
• 38:39
  it
• 38:39
  was
• 38:40
  fun,
• 38:40
  but
• 38:40
  it
• 38:41
  really
• 38:41
  wasn't
• 38:42
  exciting
• 38:42
  to
• 38:43
  me.
• 38:44
  And
• 38:44
  that's
• 38:44
  when
• 38:45
  I
• 38:45
  came
• 38:45
  up
• 38:45
  with
• 38:45
  the
• 38:45
  idea
• 38:46
  of
• 38:46
  a
• 38:46
  cartoon
• 38:47
  character.
• 38:48
  And
• 38:48
  that's
• 38:48
  our
• 38:49
  new
• 38:49
  National
• 38:49
  Park
• 38:49
  Grandma.
• 38:50
  That's
• 38:50
  me.
• 38:51
  And
• 38:52
  it
• 38:52
  looks
• 38:52
  like
• 38:52
  me.
• 38:53
  Ginger
• 38:53
  did
• 38:53
  it.
• 38:54
  It
• 38:54
  looks
• 38:54
  like
• 38:55
  me.
• 38:55
  Yeah.
• 38:55
  So
• 38:56
  it's
• 38:56
  really
• 38:56
  been
• 38:56
  fun.
• 38:57
  It's
• 38:57
  really
• 38:58
  been
• 38:58
  fun.
• 38:59
  But
• 38:59
  I
• 38:59
  went
• 38:59
  in
• 39:00
  the
• 39:00
  hospital
• 39:00
  shortly
• 39:01
  after
• 39:01
  that
• 39:01
  and
• 39:01
  I've
• 39:02
  had
• 39:02
  some
• 39:02
  medical
• 39:03
  issues
• 39:04
  and
• 39:05
  it
• 39:05
  just
• 39:05
  screwed
• 39:05
  everything
• 39:06
  up.
• 39:06
  Now
• 39:06
  I'm
• 39:06
  going
• 39:06
  to
• 39:07
  start
• 39:07
  again.
• 39:07
  Good
• 39:08
  for
• 39:08
  you.
• 39:08
  It's
• 39:09
  nice
• 39:09
  and
• 39:10
  it
• 39:10
  just
• 39:10
  engages
• 39:11
  your
• 39:11
  readers
• 39:12
  more.
• 39:12
  They
• 39:13
  have
• 39:13
  to
• 39:13
  be
• 39:13
  fun.
• 39:14
  And
• 39:15
  I've
• 39:15
  got
• 39:15
  two
• 39:16
  illustrators
• 39:16
  that
• 39:17
  I
• 39:17
  work
• 39:17
  with
• 39:18
  that
• 39:18
  know
• 39:19
  how
• 39:19
  to
• 39:19
  use
• 39:20
  the
• 39:20
  Internet.
• 39:21
  And
• 39:21
  I
• 39:22
  just
• 39:22
  watch
• 39:22
  what
• 39:22
  they
• 39:23
  do.
• 39:23
  They're
• 39:23
  there
• 39:23
  all
• 39:24
  the
• 39:24
  time,
• 39:24
  but
• 39:24
  they're
• 39:24
  not
• 39:25
  talking
• 39:25
  about
• 39:26
  their
• 39:26
  books
• 39:26
  very
• 39:26
  often
• 39:26
  or
• 39:27
  the
• 39:27
  books
• 39:27
  that
• 39:27
  they've
• 39:28
  done
• 39:28
  or
• 39:28
  something
• 39:28
  like
• 39:29
  that.
• 39:29
  They've
• 39:29
  always
• 39:29
  got
• 39:30
  something
• 39:30
  that
• 39:30
  just
• 39:30
  grabs
• 39:31
  your
• 39:31
  attention,
• 39:32
  and
• 39:32
  I
• 39:32
  think
• 39:32
  that's
• 39:33
  important
• 39:33
  too.
• 39:34
  You
• 39:34
  can
• 39:34
  always
• 39:35
  put
• 39:36
  things
• 39:36
  in
• 39:36
  about
• 39:36
  what
• 39:37
  you're
• 39:37
  working
• 39:37
  on
• 39:38
  and
• 39:38
  why,
• 39:39
  but
• 39:40
  you
• 39:41
  can't
• 39:41
  beat
• 39:42
  people
• 39:42
  over
• 39:42
  the
• 39:42
  head
• 39:42
  with
• 39:43
  that.
• 39:43
  You
• 39:43
  wrote
• 39:43
  a
• 39:44
  book
• 39:44
  because
• 39:44
  you
• 39:45
  know
• 39:45
  you're
• 39:45
  published
• 39:46
  every
• 39:46
  day.
• 39:47
  A
• 39:47
  lot
• 39:48
  I
• 39:48
  would
• 39:49
  like
• 39:49
  to
• 39:49
  talk
• 39:50
  about
• 39:50
  most.
• 39:51
  And
• 39:52
  because
• 39:52
  there
• 39:53
  was
• 39:53
  something
• 39:53
  that
• 39:54
  attracted
• 39:54
  you.
• 39:55
  He
• 39:55
  wasn't
• 39:56
  your
• 39:56
  first
• 39:56
  character.
• 39:57
  He
• 39:58
  was
• 39:58
  actually
• 39:58
  a
• 39:59
  secondary
• 39:59
  character
• 40:00
  in
• 40:01
  one
• 40:01
  of
• 40:01
  your
• 40:01
  stories,
• 40:03
  but
• 40:04
  something
• 40:04
  stuck
• 40:05
  with
• 40:05
  you.
• 40:05
  Talk
• 40:05
  to
• 40:06
  us
• 40:06
  about
• 40:06
  not
• 40:07
  only
• 40:07
  the
• 40:07
  original
• 40:08
  development
• 40:09
  of
• 40:09
  Mouse,
• 40:09
  maybe
• 40:10
  as
• 40:10
  he
• 40:10
  was
• 40:10
  a
• 40:11
  secondary
• 40:11
  character,
• 40:12
  and
• 40:12
  then
• 40:13
  he
• 40:13
  grew
• 40:13
  into
• 40:14
  a
• 40:14
  main
• 40:14
  character.
• 40:15
  Talk
• 40:15
  to
• 40:16
  us
• 40:16
  about
• 40:16
  that
• 40:16
  whole
• 40:17
  development
• 40:17
  and
• 40:17
  then
• 40:18
  talk
• 40:18
  to
• 40:18
  us
• 40:18
  about
• 40:19
  this
• 40:19
  latest
• 40:20
  book
• 40:21
  on
• 40:21
  the
• 40:21
  national
• 40:22
  parks.
• 40:23
  I
• 40:24
  don't
• 40:24
  even
• 40:24
  really
• 40:25
  know
• 40:25
  how
• 40:25
  it
• 40:25
  happened.
• 40:27
  I
• 40:27
  just
• 40:27
  feel
• 40:28
  like
• 40:28
  things
• 40:28
  in
• 40:28
  life
• 40:29
  happen
• 40:29
  sometimes
• 40:30
  and
• 40:31
  if
• 40:31
  you
• 40:31
  recognize
• 40:32
  it,
• 40:32
  then
• 40:33
  it's
• 40:33
  to
• 40:33
  your
• 40:33
  advantage
• 40:34
  when
• 40:34
  it's
• 40:35
  a
• 40:35
  positive
• 40:35
  thing.
• 40:36
  And
• 40:37
  like
• 40:37
  I
• 40:37
  said,
• 40:37
  when
• 40:38
  I
• 40:38
  saw
• 40:38
  Mouse
• 40:39
  on
• 40:39
  the
• 40:39
  COVID
• 40:39
  of
• 40:40
  the
• 40:41
  Absurd
• 40:41
  said
• 40:41
  Bird,
• 40:43
  I
• 40:43
  just
• 40:43
  loved
• 40:44
  him.
• 40:44
  And
• 40:45
  we've
• 40:45
  gotten
• 40:45
  better.
• 40:46
  He's
• 40:46
  just
• 40:46
  gotten
• 40:47
  better
• 40:47
  over
• 40:47
  the
• 40:47
  years.
• 40:48
  We've
• 40:48
  both
• 40:48
  gotten
• 40:49
  better.
• 40:49
  I
• 40:49
  think
• 40:50
  that
• 40:50
  I
• 40:50
  write
• 40:50
  better.
• 40:52
  And
• 40:53
  Ginger
• 40:53
  comes
• 40:53
  up
• 40:54
  with
• 40:54
  really
• 40:55
  creative.
• 40:56
  Every
• 40:57
  one
• 40:57
  of
• 40:57
  her
• 40:58
  illustrations
• 40:58
  is
• 40:58
  full.
• 40:59
  It's
• 40:59
  not
• 41:00
  just
• 41:00
  a
• 41:00
  cute
• 41:01
  Little
• 41:01
  thing
• 41:01
  drawn
• 41:02
  on
• 41:02
  a
• 41:02
  blank
• 41:02
  page.
• 41:03
  Right.
• 41:03
  It
• 41:04
  makes
• 41:04
  it
• 41:04
  really
• 41:04
  special.
• 41:05
  And
• 41:06
  that's
• 41:06
  why
• 41:06
  I'm
• 41:06
  really
• 41:07
  excited
• 41:07
  about
• 41:07
  the
• 41:08
  12
• 41:08
  Days
• 41:08
  of
• 41:09
  Christmas
• 41:10
  one,
• 41:10
  because
• 41:12
  it's
• 41:12
  just
• 41:12
  going
• 41:12
  to
• 41:13
  be
• 41:13
  one
• 41:13
  page
• 41:13
  for
• 41:14
  each
• 41:14
  of
• 41:14
  the
• 41:14
  national
• 41:14
  parks.
• 41:15
  But
• 41:16
  it's
• 41:16
  really
• 41:16
  going
• 41:16
  to
• 41:16
  be
• 41:16
  cute
• 41:17
  and
• 41:17
  with
• 41:18
  a
• 41:18
  little
• 41:18
  information
• 41:18
  and
• 41:19
  everything.
• 41:19
  But
• 41:20
  it's
• 41:20
  going
• 41:20
  to
• 41:20
  be
• 41:21
  fun,
• 41:21
  I
• 41:22
  think.
• 41:22
  I
• 41:22
  don't
• 41:23
  know,
• 41:23
  but
• 41:23
  every
• 41:23
  book
• 41:24
  that
• 41:24
  I'm
• 41:24
  working
• 41:24
  on,
• 41:25
  Every
• 41:25
  book
• 41:26
  I'm
• 41:26
  working
• 41:26
  on
• 41:26
  is
• 41:26
  my
• 41:27
  favorite.
• 41:28
  But
• 41:28
  Moses
• 41:28
  seemed
• 41:29
  to
• 41:29
  take
• 41:29
  on
• 41:29
  a
• 41:30
  main
• 41:30
  role
• 41:30
  here.
• 41:31
  Of
• 41:31
  course
• 41:31
  he
• 41:31
  does.
• 41:32
  One
• 41:32
  of
• 41:32
  the
• 41:32
  things
• 41:32
  that
• 41:33
  he's
• 41:33
  doing
• 41:33
  is
• 41:33
  he's
• 41:34
  looking
• 41:34
  for
• 41:35
  other
• 41:35
  relatives.
• 41:36
  And
• 41:37
  there
• 41:37
  are
• 41:38
  so
• 41:38
  many
• 41:38
  breeds
• 41:38
  of
• 41:39
  NASA
• 41:39
  of
• 41:40
  mice.
• 41:41
  And
• 41:41
  so
• 41:41
  that's
• 41:42
  been
• 41:42
  fun
• 41:42
  because
• 41:43
  I
• 41:43
  have
• 41:43
  a
• 41:43
  lot
• 41:44
  of
• 41:44
  information
• 41:44
  in
• 41:44
  the
• 41:45
  back,
• 41:45
  like
• 41:45
  my
• 41:46
  author
• 41:46
  notes,
• 41:47
  and
• 41:47
  it
• 41:47
  tells
• 41:48
  about
• 41:48
  different
• 41:48
  mice
• 41:49
  that
• 41:49
  are
• 41:49
  in
• 41:50
  a
• 41:50
  place
• 41:50
  or
• 41:51
  it
• 41:51
  asks
• 41:52
  questions
• 41:52
  or
• 41:52
  it
• 41:53
  gives
• 41:53
  you
• 41:53
  information
• 41:53
  about
• 41:54
  that
• 41:54
  park.
• 41:55
  Yes.
• 41:55
  And
• 41:55
  I
• 41:56
  noticed
• 41:56
  it
• 41:56
  was
• 41:56
  fun
• 41:57
  because
• 41:57
  you
• 41:57
  described
• 41:58
  him
• 41:58
  in
• 41:58
  your.
• 41:59
  In
• 41:59
  the
• 41:59
  national
• 41:59
  park
• 42:00
  book.
• 42:01
  And
• 42:01
  then
• 42:01
  what
• 42:01
  I
• 42:01
  loved
• 42:02
  about
• 42:02
  it
• 42:02
  is
• 42:02
  that
• 42:03
  when
• 42:03
  mouse
• 42:03
  visits
• 42:04
  the
• 42:04
  Grand
• 42:04
  Canyon
• 42:05
  national
• 42:05
  park,
• 42:06
  about
• 42:07
  halfway
• 42:07
  through
• 42:07
  the
• 42:08
  story
• 42:08
  describes
• 42:09
  himself
• 42:10
  as
• 42:10
  a
• 42:10
  house
• 42:10
  mouse.
• 42:11
  And
• 42:11
  he
• 42:12
  also
• 42:12
  meets
• 42:12
  another
• 42:13
  mouse
• 42:13
  that
• 42:13
  lives
• 42:14
  in
• 42:14
  the
• 42:14
  Grand
• 42:15
  Canyon
• 42:15
  we
• 42:16
  call
• 42:16
  a
• 42:16
  Grand
• 42:17
  Canyon
• 42:17
  mouse.
• 42:18
  Mouse
• 42:18
  is
• 42:18
  this
• 42:18
  little
• 42:18
  tiny
• 42:19
  mouse.
• 42:20
  The
• 42:20
  Grand
• 42:20
  Canyon
• 42:21
  is
• 42:21
  huge.
• 42:22
  And
• 42:22
  I
• 42:22
  thought,
• 42:23
  so
• 42:24
  what's
• 42:24
  he
• 42:24
  going
• 42:24
  to
• 42:24
  do
• 42:24
  there?
• 42:26
  And
• 42:26
  it
• 42:27
  really
• 42:27
  was
• 42:28
  fun
• 42:28
  to
• 42:28
  work
• 42:28
  out,
• 42:29
  and
• 42:29
  he
• 42:30
  had
• 42:30
  plenty.
• 42:31
  Did
• 42:31
  you
• 42:31
  know
• 42:32
  that
• 42:32
  the
• 42:32
  Grand
• 42:33
  Canyon
• 42:33
  fills
• 42:34
  up
• 42:34
  with
• 42:34
  fog
• 42:35
  so
• 42:35
  it
• 42:35
  looks
• 42:36
  like
• 42:36
  it's
• 42:36
  a
• 42:36
  carpet?
• 42:37
  No,
• 42:38
  No,
• 42:38
  I
• 42:38
  didn't
• 42:38
  know
• 42:39
  that
• 42:39
  because,
• 42:39
  you
• 42:39
  know,
• 42:39
  we
• 42:39
  were
• 42:40
  there
• 42:40
  in
• 42:40
  the
• 42:40
  summer.
• 42:40
  I
• 42:40
  never
• 42:41
  saw
• 42:41
  the
• 42:41
  fog.
• 42:42
  Yeah.
• 42:42
  No.
• 42:43
  So
• 42:43
  that.
• 42:44
  That
• 42:44
  made
• 42:44
  it
• 42:44
  fun,
• 42:45
  and
• 42:45
  that's
• 42:46
  what
• 42:46
  makes
• 42:46
  it
• 42:46
  fun
• 42:46
  for
• 42:47
  me
• 42:47
  to
• 42:47
  write
• 42:47
  a
• 42:47
  lot
• 42:47
  of
• 42:48
  these
• 42:48
  things.
• 42:48
  I
• 42:49
  look
• 42:49
  for
• 42:49
  the
• 42:49
  special
• 42:50
  things
• 42:51
  that
• 42:51
  kids
• 42:52
  would
• 42:52
  be
• 42:52
  interested
• 42:53
  in.
• 42:53
  There's
• 42:54
  a
• 42:54
  lot
• 42:54
  of
• 42:54
  stuff
• 42:54
  that
• 42:55
  they
• 42:55
  could
• 42:55
  care
• 42:55
  less
• 42:56
  about.
• 42:56
  It
• 42:56
  was
• 42:56
  a
• 42:56
  fun
• 42:57
  read.
• 42:57
  And
• 42:57
  I
• 42:57
  like
• 42:57
  how
• 42:57
  you
• 42:58
  incorporated
• 42:59
  a
• 42:59
  different
• 42:59
  type
• 43:00
  of
• 43:00
  mouse
• 43:00
  into
• 43:01
  the
• 43:01
  story.
• 43:01
  I
• 43:02
  try
• 43:02
  to
• 43:02
  do
• 43:02
  that
• 43:02
  a
• 43:02
  lot.
• 43:03
  And.
• 43:03
  And
• 43:03
  we've
• 43:04
  got
• 43:04
  a
• 43:04
  couple
• 43:04
  female
• 43:04
  mice
• 43:05
  now.
• 43:05
  One
• 43:05
  of
• 43:06
  them
• 43:06
  was
• 43:06
  in
• 43:06
  Carlsbad
• 43:07
  Caverns,
• 43:08
  and
• 43:08
  one
• 43:09
  is
• 43:09
  in
• 43:10
  right
• 43:10
  now.
• 43:10
  Canaveral
• 43:12
  mouse
• 43:13
  went
• 43:13
  to
• 43:13
  the
• 43:13
  Everglades,
• 43:14
  and
• 43:16
  Canaveral
• 43:16
  National
• 43:17
  Seashore
• 43:17
  is
• 43:18
  very
• 43:18
  close
• 43:18
  by.
• 43:19
  And
• 43:19
  so
• 43:19
  instead
• 43:19
  of
• 43:20
  he
• 43:20
  goes
• 43:21
  there
• 43:21
  and
• 43:22
  he
• 43:22
  thinks
• 43:23
  that
• 43:23
  he's
• 43:23
  going
• 43:23
  to
• 43:23
  be
• 43:24
  able
• 43:24
  to
• 43:24
  finally
• 43:24
  go
• 43:24
  to
• 43:24
  the
• 43:25
  moon.
• 43:26
  And
• 43:26
  this
• 43:27
  is
• 43:27
  when
• 43:27
  his
• 43:27
  bubble
• 43:28
  is
• 43:28
  burst
• 43:29
  and
• 43:29
  he
• 43:29
  knows
• 43:30
  that
• 43:30
  he'll
• 43:30
  never
• 43:30
  go
• 43:30
  to
• 43:30
  the
• 43:31
  moon.
• 43:31
  It's
• 43:31
  so
• 43:32
  much
• 43:32
  fun.
• 43:33
  I
• 43:33
  know
• 43:33
  you've
• 43:34
  got
• 43:34
  a
• 43:34
  couple
• 43:34
  of
• 43:34
  book
• 43:34
  series,
• 43:35
  but
• 43:35
  in
• 43:35
  terms
• 43:36
  of
• 43:36
  a
• 43:36
  theme
• 43:37
  for
• 43:37
  all
• 43:37
  of
• 43:37
  your
• 43:37
  books.
• 43:38
  What
• 43:38
  would
• 43:38
  you
• 43:39
  say
• 43:39
  is
• 43:39
  the
• 43:39
  underlying
• 43:40
  theme
• 43:40
  for
• 43:41
  all
• 43:41
  of
• 43:41
  your
• 43:41
  books?
• 43:43
  Never
• 43:43
  give
• 43:43
  up.
• 43:44
  And
• 43:45
  always
• 43:45
  keep
• 43:45
  your
• 43:46
  eyes
• 43:46
  open
• 43:47
  for
• 43:48
  that
• 43:48
  special
• 43:49
  thing.
• 43:50
  Because
• 43:51
  there's
• 43:51
  something
• 43:51
  for
• 43:51
  all
• 43:52
  of
• 43:52
  us,
• 43:52
  there's
• 43:52
  something
• 43:53
  that
• 43:54
  we
• 43:54
  love.
• 43:55
  Doesn't
• 43:55
  mean
• 43:55
  it's
• 43:56
  right
• 43:56
  for
• 43:56
  anybody
• 43:57
  else.
• 43:57
  But
• 43:58
  I
• 43:59
  think
• 43:59
  that
• 43:59
  you
• 44:00
  never
• 44:00
  give
• 44:00
  up.
• 44:01
  I
• 44:01
  think
• 44:01
  that's
• 44:02
  important.
• 44:02
  There
• 44:03
  is
• 44:03
  good
• 44:03
  that
• 44:04
  can
• 44:04
  be
• 44:04
  found
• 44:04
  in
• 44:04
  anything
• 44:06
  negative.
• 44:07
  You
• 44:07
  just
• 44:07
  have
• 44:07
  to
• 44:07
  have
• 44:08
  your
• 44:08
  eyes
• 44:08
  open
• 44:09
  and
• 44:10
  realize
• 44:10
  that.
• 44:11
  And
• 44:11
  I
• 44:11
  learned
• 44:11
  that
• 44:11
  a
• 44:12
  long
• 44:12
  time
• 44:12
  ago
• 44:13
  that
• 44:13
  everything's
• 44:14
  not
• 44:14
  going
• 44:14
  to
• 44:14
  go
• 44:15
  the
• 44:15
  way
• 44:15
  that
• 44:15
  you
• 44:15
  hope
• 44:16
  or
• 44:16
  you
• 44:16
  plan.
• 44:17
  I
• 44:17
  can
• 44:17
  tell
• 44:17
  you
• 44:18
  that
• 44:18
  right
• 44:18
  now
• 44:18
  with
• 44:19
  my
• 44:19
  marketing.
• 44:20
  Each
• 44:20
  book
• 44:21
  as
• 44:21
  you
• 44:21
  write
• 44:22
  it,
• 44:22
  do
• 44:22
  you
• 44:22
  think
• 44:22
  about
• 44:23
  a
• 44:23
  central
• 44:24
  lesson
• 44:24
  or
• 44:25
  teaching
• 44:25
  before
• 44:26
  you
• 44:26
  start
• 44:26
  writing?
• 44:28
  No,
• 44:30
  no,
• 44:30
  I
• 44:30
  don't.
• 44:31
  But
• 44:31
  I
• 44:31
  think
• 44:31
  about
• 44:31
  it
• 44:32
  as
• 44:32
  I'm
• 44:32
  going
• 44:32
  along
• 44:33
  and
• 44:33
  I
• 44:33
  think
• 44:34
  about
• 44:34
  it
• 44:35
  as
• 44:35
  I
• 44:35
  end.
• 44:37
  I.
• 44:37
  I
• 44:37
  look
• 44:37
  back.
• 44:38
  My
• 44:38
  favorite
• 44:38
  part
• 44:39
  of
• 44:39
  writing
• 44:39
  is
• 44:39
  rewriting.
• 44:41
  So
• 44:41
  I
• 44:42
  will
• 44:42
  put
• 44:42
  something
• 44:42
  down,
• 44:43
  I'll
• 44:43
  just
• 44:44
  rough
• 44:44
  it
• 44:44
  out
• 44:45
  and
• 44:45
  then
• 44:45
  I
• 44:46
  go
• 44:46
  back
• 44:46
  and
• 44:47
  change
• 44:47
  it.
• 44:47
  And
• 44:48
  I'm
• 44:48
  a
• 44:48
  typewriter.
• 44:49
  But
• 44:50
  these
• 44:50
  books
• 44:50
  are
• 44:50
  long
• 44:51
  for
• 44:51
  picture
• 44:52
  books.
• 44:52
  Most
• 44:53
  of
• 44:53
  them
• 44:53
  are
• 44:53
  like
• 44:53
  900
• 44:54
  words.
• 44:55
  They
• 44:55
  say
• 44:55
  a
• 44:55
  children's
• 44:56
  book
• 44:57
  is
• 44:57
  generally
• 44:57
  a
• 44:57
  picture
• 44:58
  book
• 44:58
  is
• 44:58
  between
• 44:59
  five
• 44:59
  hundred
• 44:59
  and
• 44:59
  a
• 44:59
  thousand
• 45:00
  words.
• 45:00
  And
• 45:01
  depending
• 45:01
  how
• 45:02
  even
• 45:02
  how
• 45:02
  you
• 45:03
  set
• 45:03
  your
• 45:03
  book
• 45:03
  up.
• 45:04
  You
• 45:04
  know
• 45:04
  what,
• 45:05
  when
• 45:05
  we
• 45:05
  launched
• 45:06
  our
• 45:06
  books,
• 45:07
  I
• 45:07
  went
• 45:08
  old
• 45:08
  school
• 45:09
  and
• 45:09
  I
• 45:09
  didn't
• 45:09
  know
• 45:10
  that.
• 45:10
  So
• 45:10
  ours
• 45:11
  has
• 45:11
  the
• 45:11
  illustration
• 45:12
  on
• 45:13
  the
• 45:13
  right
• 45:13
  hand
• 45:13
  side
• 45:14
  and
• 45:15
  has
• 45:15
  the
• 45:15
  print
• 45:16
  on
• 45:16
  the
• 45:17
  left
• 45:17
  hand
• 45:17
  side.
• 45:17
  The
• 45:18
  print
• 45:18
  separate
• 45:19
  from
• 45:19
  the
• 45:19
  illustration.
• 45:20
  I
• 45:20
  have
• 45:20
  a
• 45:20
  couple
• 45:20
  books
• 45:21
  like
• 45:21
  that.
• 45:21
  That's
• 45:21
  just
• 45:22
  the
• 45:22
  style
• 45:23
  that
• 45:23
  we
• 45:23
  chose
• 45:23
  to
• 45:24
  go
• 45:24
  with.
• 45:25
  Now
• 45:25
  that
• 45:25
  I've
• 45:25
  interviewed
• 45:26
  over
• 45:26
  a
• 45:27
  children's
• 45:27
  book
• 45:28
  authors,
• 45:29
  I'm
• 45:29
  seeing
• 45:29
  there's
• 45:30
  so
• 45:30
  many
• 45:30
  different
• 45:30
  ways
• 45:31
  that
• 45:31
  you
• 45:31
  can
• 45:31
  go
• 45:31
  about
• 45:32
  it.
• 45:32
  I'm
• 45:32
  learning,
• 45:34
  Tricia.
• 45:35
  It's
• 45:35
  not
• 45:35
  a
• 45:36
  one
• 45:36
  size
• 45:37
  fits
• 45:37
  all.
• 45:38
  And
• 45:38
  no,
• 45:38
  yeah,
• 45:39
  not.
• 45:40
  It's
• 45:40
  just
• 45:40
  open
• 45:41
  to
• 45:41
  the
• 45:41
  way
• 45:42
  you
• 45:42
  do
• 45:42
  it.
• 45:42
  With
• 45:42
  you
• 45:43
  having
• 45:43
  28
• 45:44
  books,
• 45:44
  you
• 45:44
  can
• 45:44
  play
• 45:45
  with
• 45:45
  it.
• 45:45
  I
• 45:45
  have
• 45:46
  an
• 45:46
  advantage
• 45:46
  that
• 45:48
  I
• 45:48
  don't
• 45:49
  have
• 45:49
  to
• 45:49
  bring
• 45:49
  in.
• 45:50
  I'll
• 45:51
  never
• 45:51
  get
• 45:51
  back
• 45:52
  what
• 45:52
  I
• 45:52
  put
• 45:52
  into
• 45:52
  this.
• 45:53
  But
• 45:54
  they're
• 45:54
  gifts
• 45:54
  for
• 45:55
  my
• 45:55
  family
• 45:57
  mainly.
• 45:57
  But
• 45:58
  they're
• 45:58
  also
• 45:59
  a
• 46:00
  great
• 46:00
  thing
• 46:01
  for
• 46:01
  me.
• 46:01
  I'd
• 46:01
  rather
• 46:02
  do
• 46:02
  this.
• 46:03
  I've
• 46:03
  done
• 46:03
  a
• 46:03
  lot
• 46:03
  of
• 46:04
  travel.
• 46:04
  I've
• 46:04
  done
• 46:05
  a
• 46:05
  lot
• 46:05
  of
• 46:05
  everything
• 46:05
  in
• 46:06
  my
• 46:06
  life.
• 46:06
  I
• 46:06
  had
• 46:06
  a
• 46:07
  very
• 46:07
  full
• 46:07
  life
• 46:08
  and
• 46:08
  now
• 46:08
  I'm
• 46:09
  having
• 46:09
  fun
• 46:09
  too.
• 46:10
  Yeah,
• 46:10
  no,
• 46:10
  it's
• 46:11
  fantastic.
• 46:12
  When
• 46:12
  you
• 46:13
  talked
• 46:13
  about
• 46:13
  your
• 46:13
  writing
• 46:14
  process
• 46:14
  and
• 46:15
  you
• 46:15
  said
• 46:15
  the
• 46:15
  theme
• 46:16
  or
• 46:16
  the
• 46:16
  central
• 46:17
  teaching
• 46:18
  sometimes
• 46:18
  just
• 46:18
  comes
• 46:18
  out
• 46:19
  later
• 46:19
  as
• 46:19
  you're
• 46:20
  writing.
• 46:20
  Can
• 46:20
  you
• 46:21
  Share
• 46:21
  some
• 46:21
  more
• 46:22
  insight
• 46:22
  into
• 46:24
  your
• 46:24
  development
• 46:24
  and
• 46:25
  writing
• 46:25
  process
• 46:26
  for
• 46:26
  your
• 46:26
  children's
• 46:26
  books.
• 46:28
  Okay.
• 46:28
  A
• 46:28
  good
• 46:29
  example
• 46:29
  is
• 46:29
  this
• 46:30
  Everglades
• 46:30
  that
• 46:30
  I
• 46:31
  did.
• 46:31
  Let's
• 46:31
  talk
• 46:32
  about
• 46:32
  a
• 46:32
  little
• 46:32
  bit
• 46:32
  about
• 46:33
  how
• 46:33
  I
• 46:33
  choose
• 46:34
  a
• 46:34
  park.
• 46:35
  Okay.
• 46:36
  I
• 46:37
  want
• 46:37
  to
• 46:37
  be
• 46:37
  fair
• 46:37
  to
• 46:38
  everybody,
• 46:39
  so
• 46:39
  I
• 46:39
  try
• 46:40
  to
• 46:40
  go
• 46:41
  on
• 46:41
  this
• 46:41
  side
• 46:41
  for
• 46:41
  a
• 46:42
  while
• 46:42
  and
• 46:42
  then
• 46:42
  go
• 46:42
  on
• 46:43
  this
• 46:43
  side
• 46:43
  or
• 46:43
  whatever.
• 46:44
  And
• 46:45
  the
• 46:45
  reason
• 46:45
  that
• 46:45
  Acadia
• 46:46
  national
• 46:46
  park
• 46:47
  is
• 46:47
  the
• 46:47
  third
• 46:48
  book,
• 46:48
  Yellowstone's
• 46:49
  the
• 46:49
  second
• 46:49
  book,
• 46:50
  because
• 46:50
  that
• 46:50
  was
• 46:51
  our
• 46:51
  first
• 46:51
  national
• 46:51
  park
• 46:52
  book.
• 46:53
  The
• 46:53
  first
• 46:53
  book
• 46:54
  is
• 46:54
  Joshua
• 46:55
  Tree
• 46:55
  National
• 46:55
  Park.
• 46:56
  And
• 46:56
  the
• 46:56
  reason
• 46:56
  I
• 46:56
  did
• 46:57
  that
• 46:57
  is
• 46:57
  it's
• 46:58
  a
• 46:58
  smaller
• 46:58
  park.
• 46:59
  And
• 46:59
  because
• 47:00
  of
• 47:00
  the
• 47:00
  book
• 47:01
  transition
• 47:02
  into
• 47:03
  parks,
• 47:04
  I
• 47:04
  needed
• 47:04
  something
• 47:05
  that
• 47:05
  wasn't
• 47:05
  too
• 47:06
  terribly
• 47:06
  big,
• 47:06
  that
• 47:07
  I
• 47:07
  didn't
• 47:07
  have
• 47:07
  to
• 47:07
  write
• 47:07
  too
• 47:07
  much
• 47:08
  stuff
• 47:08
  about.
• 47:09
  That
• 47:09
  is
• 47:10
  what
• 47:10
  gave
• 47:10
  me
• 47:10
  the
• 47:10
  idea
• 47:11
  for
• 47:11
  that.
• 47:12
  But
• 47:13
  where
• 47:13
  I
• 47:13
  am
• 47:13
  right
• 47:14
  now
• 47:14
  is
• 47:15
  that
• 47:15
  two
• 47:15
  things
• 47:16
  that
• 47:16
  Mouse
• 47:16
  really
• 47:17
  wanted.
• 47:17
  One
• 47:17
  thing,
• 47:18
  Bird
• 47:18
  had
• 47:18
  gone
• 47:18
  off
• 47:19
  migrating,
• 47:19
  and
• 47:20
  he.
• 47:20
  He
• 47:20
  hoped
• 47:21
  that
• 47:21
  on
• 47:21
  some
• 47:22
  of
• 47:22
  his
• 47:22
  travels
• 47:23
  he
• 47:23
  would
• 47:24
  run
• 47:24
  into
• 47:24
  Bird.
• 47:25
  And
• 47:25
  he
• 47:25
  does
• 47:26
  at
• 47:27
  Everglades.
• 47:28
  And
• 47:29
  there
• 47:29
  are
• 47:29
  quite
• 47:29
  a
• 47:29
  few
• 47:29
  things
• 47:30
  that
• 47:30
  are
• 47:30
  fun
• 47:30
  about
• 47:30
  Everglades.
• 47:31
  But
• 47:31
  the
• 47:31
  other
• 47:32
  thing
• 47:32
  was
• 47:32
  that
• 47:33
  it's
• 47:33
  close
• 47:33
  to
• 47:33
  Kennedy
• 47:34
  Space
• 47:35
  Station.
• 47:37
  And
• 47:37
  with
• 47:37
  Mouse
• 47:38
  wanting
• 47:38
  to
• 47:40
  go
• 47:40
  to
• 47:40
  the
• 47:40
  moon,
• 47:41
  it
• 47:41
  worked
• 47:42
  out
• 47:42
  just
• 47:42
  perfectly
• 47:43
  because
• 47:43
  I
• 47:43
  was
• 47:43
  finally
• 47:43
  able
• 47:44
  to
• 47:44
  close
• 47:44
  that.
• 47:44
  But
• 47:45
  he
• 47:45
  also
• 47:45
  runs
• 47:45
  into
• 47:46
  Mouse
• 47:46
  at
• 47:46
  the
• 47:46
  Everglades
• 47:48
  because
• 47:48
  the
• 47:49
  migrating
• 47:50
  birds
• 47:50
  that
• 47:50
  he's
• 47:50
  with
• 47:51
  are
• 47:51
  going
• 47:51
  through
• 47:52
  there.
• 47:52
  I
• 47:52
  just
• 47:52
  play.
• 47:53
  Okay.
• 47:54
  But
• 47:54
  like
• 47:54
  I
• 47:54
  said,
• 47:55
  Monks
• 47:55
  writes
• 47:56
  the
• 47:56
  stories,
• 47:57
  and
• 47:57
  then
• 47:58
  I
• 47:58
  tell
• 47:58
  them
• 47:58
  if
• 47:58
  it
• 47:58
  works.
• 47:59
  I
• 47:59
  love
• 47:59
  that
• 47:59
  you
• 48:00
  have
• 48:00
  focused
• 48:01
  on.
• 48:02
  Even
• 48:02
  though
• 48:02
  you've
• 48:03
  got
• 48:03
  a
• 48:03
  couple
• 48:03
  of
• 48:03
  book
• 48:03
  series,
• 48:04
  your
• 48:04
  focus
• 48:05
  on
• 48:05
  national
• 48:06
  parks,
• 48:06
  I
• 48:06
  think
• 48:06
  is
• 48:07
  timely
• 48:07
  in
• 48:08
  today's
• 48:08
  world.
• 48:09
  Yes.
• 48:09
  Extremely
• 48:10
  important.
• 48:11
  And
• 48:11
  raising
• 48:12
  people's
• 48:13
  awareness
• 48:14
  because
• 48:14
  I'm
• 48:15
  not
• 48:15
  sure.
• 48:15
  I
• 48:15
  hope
• 48:16
  so.
• 48:16
  Yeah.
• 48:17
  And
• 48:17
  we're
• 48:17
  getting
• 48:18
  more
• 48:18
  people
• 48:18
  in
• 48:18
  the
• 48:19
  world,
• 48:19
  and
• 48:19
  that's
• 48:20
  something
• 48:20
  we
• 48:20
  can't.
• 48:21
  That's
• 48:22
  just
• 48:22
  part
• 48:22
  of
• 48:23
  life.
• 48:23
  But
• 48:23
  to
• 48:23
  get
• 48:24
  people
• 48:24
  to
• 48:24
  get
• 48:24
  closer
• 48:25
  to
• 48:25
  nature,
• 48:26
  certainly,
• 48:27
  I
• 48:28
  think
• 48:28
  is
• 48:28
  a
• 48:28
  very
• 48:28
  worthy
• 48:29
  cause.
• 48:29
  And
• 48:30
  I'm
• 48:30
  glad
• 48:30
  you're
• 48:30
  doing
• 48:30
  that
• 48:31
  and
• 48:31
  you're
• 48:32
  doing
• 48:32
  it
• 48:32
  in
• 48:32
  a
• 48:32
  fun
• 48:33
  way
• 48:33
  at
• 48:34
  the
• 48:34
  right
• 48:34
  age,
• 48:35
  I
• 48:36
  think
• 48:36
  so.
• 48:36
  I
• 48:37
  think
• 48:37
  it's
• 48:37
  the
• 48:37
  right
• 48:37
  age
• 48:38
  because
• 48:38
  they
• 48:39
  understand
• 48:39
  at
• 48:40
  that
• 48:40
  age.
• 48:41
  And
• 48:41
  you
• 48:41
  just
• 48:41
  never
• 48:41
  know.
• 48:42
  It
• 48:42
  might
• 48:42
  only
• 48:44
  influence
• 48:45
  one
• 48:45
  kid
• 48:46
  or
• 48:46
  two
• 48:47
  or
• 48:47
  something,
• 48:48
  but
• 48:48
  that's
• 48:49
  what
• 48:49
  our
• 48:49
  job
• 48:49
  is.
• 48:50
  You're
• 48:50
  not
• 48:50
  going
• 48:50
  to
• 48:50
  get
• 48:50
  all
• 48:51
  30
• 48:51
  kids
• 48:51
  in
• 48:51
  the
• 48:51
  classroom.
• 48:53
  I'm
• 48:53
  going
• 48:53
  to
• 48:53
  take
• 48:53
  you
• 48:54
  back
• 48:54
  to.
• 48:55
  I
• 48:55
  won't
• 48:55
  take
• 48:56
  you
• 48:56
  back
• 48:56
  to
• 48:56
  the
• 48:56
  1990s,
• 48:57
  but
• 48:57
  I'm
• 48:58
  going
• 48:58
  to
• 48:58
  take
• 48:58
  you
• 48:58
  back
• 48:58
  to
• 48:59
  the
• 48:59
  COVID
• 49:00
  years
• 49:01
  and
• 49:02
  when
• 49:02
  you
• 49:02
  started
• 49:02
  thinking
• 49:03
  about
• 49:03
  writing
• 49:04
  children's
• 49:05
  books
• 49:05
  again.
• 49:06
  And
• 49:06
  we
• 49:07
  talked
• 49:07
  about
• 49:07
  your
• 49:08
  book
• 49:08
  business
• 49:09
  plan.
• 49:09
  But
• 49:09
  I'm
• 49:10
  more
• 49:10
  interested
• 49:10
  in
• 49:11
  you
• 49:11
  thinking
• 49:11
  back
• 49:12
  to
• 49:12
  your
• 49:13
  first,
• 49:13
  very
• 49:14
  first
• 49:14
  book.
• 49:15
  Not
• 49:15
  the
• 49:15
  one
• 49:15
  you
• 49:15
  wrote
• 49:16
  with
• 49:16
  your
• 49:16
  father
• 49:16
  in
• 49:16
  law,
• 49:17
  but
• 49:17
  your
• 49:17
  very
• 49:17
  first
• 49:18
  book.
• 49:18
  And
• 49:19
  then
• 49:19
  I
• 49:19
  want
• 49:20
  you
• 49:20
  to
• 49:20
  think
• 49:20
  about
• 49:20
  the
• 49:20
  success
• 49:21
  that
• 49:22
  you
• 49:22
  were
• 49:22
  thinking
• 49:22
  about
• 49:22
  with
• 49:23
  that
• 49:23
  book.
• 49:23
  And
• 49:24
  then
• 49:24
  pull
• 49:25
  us
• 49:25
  forward
• 49:25
  to
• 49:25
  now
• 49:26
  and
• 49:26
  what
• 49:27
  success
• 49:27
  looks
• 49:27
  like
• 49:28
  to
• 49:28
  you
• 49:29
  now
• 49:29
  versus
• 49:30
  back
• 49:30
  then.
• 49:31
  It
• 49:32
  felt
• 49:32
  room.
• 49:33
  Remember
• 49:33
  what
• 49:34
  the
• 49:34
  first
• 49:34
  book
• 49:34
  was
• 49:35
  that
• 49:35
  I
• 49:35
  did.
• 49:35
  I
• 49:36
  know
• 49:36
  that
• 49:36
  I
• 49:36
  wanted
• 49:37
  to
• 49:37
  do
• 49:37
  them
• 49:37
  for
• 49:37
  my
• 49:37
  grandkids
• 49:38
  and
• 49:38
  so
• 49:38
  they
• 49:39
  were.
• 49:39
  I
• 49:39
  think
• 49:39
  that
• 49:40
  I
• 49:40
  might
• 49:40
  have
• 49:40
  done
• 49:40
  Grandpa
• 49:41
  Jack.
• 49:41
  Put
• 49:41
  it
• 49:42
  back.
• 49:42
  These
• 49:42
  are
• 49:43
  for
• 49:43
  very
• 49:43
  young
• 49:43
  children.
• 49:44
  Garrett
• 49:44
  Gets
• 49:45
  the
• 49:45
  Wiggle
• 49:45
  Worms
• 49:45
  and
• 49:46
  Jimmy's
• 49:46
  Jammies.
• 49:47
  Those
• 49:48
  are
• 49:48
  what
• 49:48
  I
• 49:48
  consider
• 49:48
  my
• 49:49
  toddler
• 49:49
  books.
• 49:50
  I
• 49:50
  should
• 49:51
  know
• 49:51
  what
• 49:51
  the
• 49:51
  first
• 49:52
  book
• 49:52
  is.
• 49:52
  But
• 49:52
  when
• 49:53
  you.
• 49:53
  Well,
• 49:53
  if
• 49:53
  you
• 49:54
  could
• 49:54
  just
• 49:54
  think
• 49:54
  back
• 49:54
  to
• 49:55
  what
• 49:55
  you
• 49:55
  had
• 49:56
  envisioned
• 49:56
  success
• 49:57
  back
• 49:57
  then
• 49:58
  and
• 49:58
  what
• 49:58
  success
• 49:59
  looks
• 49:59
  like
• 49:59
  to
• 49:59
  you
• 50:00
  now.
• 50:00
  I
• 50:00
  don't
• 50:00
  know
• 50:01
  when
• 50:01
  I
• 50:01
  started
• 50:02
  out
• 50:02
  if
• 50:02
  I
• 50:02
  visioned
• 50:03
  any
• 50:03
  of
• 50:03
  them
• 50:04
  really
• 50:04
  succeed
• 50:04
  success.
• 50:05
  I
• 50:05
  thought
• 50:06
  maybe.
• 50:06
  I
• 50:07
  also
• 50:07
  thought
• 50:07
  that
• 50:08
  I
• 50:08
  had
• 50:08
  done
• 50:08
  fairly
• 50:09
  well
• 50:09
  as
• 50:09
  a
• 50:09
  traditional
• 50:10
  author.
• 50:11
  And
• 50:11
  I
• 50:12
  thought
• 50:12
  I
• 50:12
  took
• 50:13
  20
• 50:13
  years
• 50:13
  off
• 50:14
  and
• 50:14
  I
• 50:15
  thought
• 50:15
  that
• 50:16
  somebody
• 50:17
  would
• 50:17
  remember
• 50:17
  me.
• 50:19
  Wrong.
• 50:20
  That's
• 50:20
  not
• 50:21
  true.
• 50:21
  Some
• 50:21
  did
• 50:22
  and
• 50:22
  were
• 50:23
  happy
• 50:23
  that
• 50:23
  I
• 50:23
  was
• 50:23
  back.
• 50:24
  But
• 50:24
  nobody
• 50:25
  remembers
• 50:25
  you,
• 50:26
  especially
• 50:26
  in
• 50:27
  a
• 50:27
  time
• 50:27
  like
• 50:27
  this.
• 50:28
  There
• 50:28
  are
• 50:28
  so
• 50:29
  many
• 50:29
  people
• 50:29
  in
• 50:29
  the
• 50:29
  world
• 50:31
  that
• 50:31
  I
• 50:31
  think
• 50:31
  is
• 50:32
  one
• 50:32
  of
• 50:32
  the
• 50:32
  reasons
• 50:33
  that
• 50:33
  it's
• 50:33
  really
• 50:33
  important
• 50:34
  for
• 50:34
  people
• 50:34
  to
• 50:35
  find
• 50:35
  out
• 50:35
  what
• 50:35
  works
• 50:35
  for
• 50:36
  them
• 50:36
  and
• 50:36
  what
• 50:36
  makes
• 50:37
  them
• 50:37
  happy.
• 50:37
  Because
• 50:39
  you
• 50:39
  can't
• 50:39
  be
• 50:40
  everybody
• 50:40
  else.
• 50:41
  Success
• 50:42
  for
• 50:42
  you.
• 50:42
  Now
• 50:43
  you've
• 50:43
  mentioned
• 50:43
  how
• 50:44
  you're
• 50:44
  having
• 50:44
  fun
• 50:45
  for
• 50:45
  yourself.
• 50:46
  Is
• 50:46
  that
• 50:47
  now
• 50:47
  your
• 50:47
  success
• 50:48
  gauge.
• 50:48
  My
• 50:49
  success
• 50:49
  will
• 50:50
  be
• 50:50
  if
• 50:50
  I
• 50:51
  get
• 50:52
  my
• 50:52
  mouse
• 50:53
  series
• 50:53
  into
• 50:54
  schools
• 50:55
  because
• 50:55
  I
• 50:55
  think
• 50:55
  that's
• 50:56
  where
• 50:56
  it
• 50:56
  belongs
• 50:57
  to.
• 50:57
  It
• 50:57
  belongs
• 50:57
  in
• 50:58
  national
• 50:58
  parks
• 50:58
  too,
• 50:58
  but
• 50:59
  it
• 50:59
  belongs
• 50:59
  in
• 50:59
  schools
• 51:00
  because
• 51:00
  it
• 51:01
  has
• 51:01
  a
• 51:01
  lot
• 51:01
  of
• 51:01
  information
• 51:02
  in
• 51:02
  it.
• 51:02
  I've
• 51:03
  had
• 51:03
  a
• 51:03
  lot
• 51:03
  of
• 51:03
  reviewers
• 51:04
  who
• 51:05
  were
• 51:05
  teachers
• 51:05
  tell
• 51:06
  me
• 51:06
  that
• 51:06
  it
• 51:06
  belongs
• 51:07
  there.
• 51:08
  I
• 51:08
  haven't
• 51:08
  been
• 51:08
  able
• 51:09
  to
• 51:09
  figure
• 51:09
  out
• 51:09
  how
• 51:11
  I
• 51:11
  have.
• 51:11
  But
• 51:12
  I
• 51:12
  haven't
• 51:12
  put
• 51:12
  the
• 51:12
  effort
• 51:13
  into
• 51:13
  it.
• 51:13
  I'm
• 51:13
  just
• 51:14
  keep
• 51:14
  building
• 51:14
  this.
• 51:15
  I
• 51:16
  don't
• 51:16
  know
• 51:16
  what
• 51:16
  I'm
• 51:16
  building.
• 51:17
  Almost
• 51:17
  ready
• 51:18
  to
• 51:18
  dive
• 51:18
  in.
• 51:19
  It's
• 51:19
  interesting
• 51:19
  you
• 51:20
  should
• 51:20
  say
• 51:20
  that
• 51:20
  because
• 51:20
  I
• 51:21
  bet
• 51:21
  you
• 51:21
  half
• 51:21
  of
• 51:22
  our
• 51:22
  guests
• 51:22
  of
• 51:22
  teachers
• 51:24
  or
• 51:24
  early
• 51:25
  development
• 51:26
  educators
• 51:27
  or
• 51:28
  retired
• 51:29
  teachers.
• 51:29
  A
• 51:29
  few
• 51:30
  episodes
• 51:30
  ago,
• 51:30
  one
• 51:31
  of
• 51:31
  the
• 51:31
  people
• 51:32
  told
• 51:32
  me
• 51:32
  that
• 51:33
  as
• 51:33
  a
• 51:33
  retired
• 51:34
  teacher
• 51:35
  she
• 51:35
  was
• 51:35
  doing
• 51:36
  a
• 51:36
  lesson
• 51:36
  plan
• 51:37
  for
• 51:37
  each
• 51:37
  book.
• 51:37
  And
• 51:38
  she
• 51:38
  said,
• 51:39
  oh,
• 51:39
  okay,
• 51:40
  great.
• 51:40
  And
• 51:40
  she
• 51:40
  said
• 51:41
  that
• 51:41
  seemed
• 51:41
  to
• 51:41
  be
• 51:42
  getting
• 51:42
  her
• 51:43
  some
• 51:43
  traction
• 51:44
  at
• 51:44
  schools
• 51:45
  because
• 51:46
  she
• 51:46
  was
• 51:46
  taught.
• 51:47
  But
• 51:48
  you
• 51:48
  got
• 51:48
  to
• 51:48
  know
• 51:48
  where
• 51:48
  to
• 51:48
  put
• 51:48
  those.
• 51:49
  Yeah,
• 51:49
  exactly.
• 51:50
  But
• 51:50
  she
• 51:50
  said,
• 51:51
  you
• 51:51
  have
• 51:51
  to
• 51:51
  offer.
• 51:51
  Them
• 51:52
  get
• 51:52
  it
• 51:52
  right.
• 51:53
  And
• 51:53
  she
• 51:53
  was
• 51:53
  getting
• 51:53
  her
• 51:54
  some
• 51:54
  traction.
• 51:55
  But
• 51:55
  it
• 51:55
  was
• 51:56
  interesting.
• 51:56
  That
• 51:57
  reminds
• 51:57
  me
• 51:57
  of
• 51:58
  two
• 51:58
  that
• 51:58
  I
• 51:58
  published
• 51:59
  very
• 51:59
  early
• 51:59
  on.
• 52:00
  One
• 52:00
  of
• 52:00
  them's
• 52:00
  called
• 52:01
  Grandma's
• 52:01
  Kitchen
• 52:02
  and
• 52:03
  the
• 52:03
  other
• 52:03
  one's
• 52:03
  called
• 52:03
  Grandpa's
• 52:04
  Garden.
• 52:04
  Okay.
• 52:05
  And
• 52:05
  Grandma's
• 52:06
  Kitchen
• 52:06
  is
• 52:06
  about
• 52:07
  canning
• 52:07
  tomatoes
• 52:08
  and
• 52:08
  Grandpa's
• 52:09
  Garden
• 52:09
  is
• 52:09
  about
• 52:09
  growing
• 52:10
  vegetables
• 52:11
  for
• 52:11
  a
• 52:11
  special
• 52:12
  salad.
• 52:12
  Those
• 52:13
  were
• 52:13
  fun
• 52:13
  too.
• 52:14
  And
• 52:14
  they
• 52:14
  have
• 52:14
  a
• 52:14
  lesson
• 52:15
  plan
• 52:15
  that
• 52:15
  goes
• 52:15
  with
• 52:16
  them.
• 52:16
  Another
• 52:17
  one
• 52:17
  that
• 52:17
  I
• 52:17
  wrote
• 52:17
  is
• 52:18
  Where's
• 52:18
  Grandma?
• 52:19
  And
• 52:19
  it's
• 52:19
  a
• 52:19
  silly
• 52:19
  story
• 52:20
  about
• 52:20
  a
• 52:20
  grandma
• 52:20
  that's
• 52:21
  up
• 52:21
  in
• 52:21
  a
• 52:21
  tree
• 52:22
  and
• 52:23
  then
• 52:23
  she
• 52:23
  also
• 52:24
  runs
• 52:24
  a
• 52:24
  backhoe.
• 52:25
  That
• 52:25
  wasn't
• 52:25
  my
• 52:25
  idea.
• 52:26
  That
• 52:26
  was
• 52:26
  the
• 52:26
  illustrator's
• 52:27
  idea
• 52:27
  to
• 52:27
  put
• 52:27
  the
• 52:28
  backhoe
• 52:28
  in.
• 52:28
  And
• 52:28
  I
• 52:28
  just
• 52:29
  love
• 52:29
  it.
• 52:29
  But
• 52:30
  it's
• 52:30
  really
• 52:31
  a
• 52:31
  fun
• 52:31
  one.
• 52:31
  It's
• 52:31
  a
• 52:32
  silly
• 52:32
  grandma
• 52:32
  when
• 52:33
  these
• 52:33
  four
• 52:34
  little
• 52:34
  boys
• 52:34
  are
• 52:35
  always
• 52:35
  trying
• 52:35
  to
• 52:36
  find
• 52:36
  her.
• 52:36
  And
• 52:37
  Tricia,
• 52:37
  how
• 52:38
  much
• 52:38
  time
• 52:38
  are
• 52:38
  you
• 52:38
  devoting
• 52:39
  to
• 52:39
  writing
• 52:40
  now?
• 52:40
  I
• 52:40
  do
• 52:40
  writing
• 52:41
  stuff
• 52:41
  every
• 52:42
  day
• 52:42
  in
• 52:42
  the
• 52:42
  mornings.
• 52:43
  I
• 52:43
  don't
• 52:43
  have
• 52:44
  to,
• 52:44
  but
• 52:44
  I
• 52:44
  want
• 52:45
  to
• 52:45
  check
• 52:45
  my
• 52:45
  emails
• 52:46
  and
• 52:46
  do
• 52:47
  that
• 52:47
  stuff.
• 52:47
  And
• 52:47
  I
• 52:48
  probably
• 52:49
  work
• 52:49
  till
• 52:49
  about
• 52:50
  noon
• 52:51
  or
• 52:51
  1
• 52:51
  o'.
• 52:51
  Clock.
• 52:52
  And
• 52:52
  I
• 52:53
  find
• 52:53
  that
• 52:54
  at
• 52:54
  this
• 52:55
  point
• 52:55
  in
• 52:55
  my
• 52:55
  life
• 52:56
  I'm
• 52:56
  not
• 52:56
  quite
• 52:56
  as
• 52:57
  productive
• 52:57
  in
• 52:57
  the
• 52:57
  late
• 52:58
  afternoon.
• 52:58
  Sometimes
• 52:59
  I
• 52:59
  get
• 52:59
  something
• 52:59
  done.
• 53:00
  That's
• 53:00
  when
• 53:00
  I
• 53:00
  do
• 53:01
  most
• 53:01
  of
• 53:01
  my
• 53:01
  knitting
• 53:02
  and
• 53:03
  that
• 53:03
  type
• 53:03
  of
• 53:04
  thing.
• 53:04
  Advice
• 53:05
  for
• 53:05
  aspiring
• 53:07
  authors.
• 53:08
  If
• 53:08
  you're
• 53:09
  talking
• 53:09
  to
• 53:10
  someone
• 53:10
  who's
• 53:11
  an
• 53:11
  aspiring
• 53:12
  author,
• 53:12
  what
• 53:12
  do
• 53:13
  you
• 53:13
  say
• 53:13
  to
• 53:13
  them?
• 53:15
  You
• 53:15
  don't
• 53:15
  go
• 53:15
  into
• 53:15
  it
• 53:16
  because
• 53:16
  you
• 53:16
  think
• 53:16
  you're
• 53:16
  going
• 53:16
  to
• 53:17
  get
• 53:17
  rich.
• 53:18
  You
• 53:18
  have
• 53:18
  to
• 53:19
  love
• 53:19
  what
• 53:19
  you
• 53:19
  do
• 53:20
  because
• 53:21
  it's
• 53:21
  a
• 53:21
  feel
• 53:22
  good.
• 53:23
  And
• 53:23
  if
• 53:24
  you
• 53:24
  create
• 53:24
  something
• 53:25
  that
• 53:25
  makes
• 53:25
  you
• 53:26
  feel
• 53:26
  good,
• 53:27
  that
• 53:27
  you've
• 53:27
  created
• 53:28
  something.
• 53:28
  There
• 53:29
  are
• 53:29
  so
• 53:29
  many
• 53:30
  that
• 53:30
  were
• 53:30
  not
• 53:30
  thought
• 53:31
  out
• 53:32
  books
• 53:33
  and
• 53:33
  everybody
• 53:34
  thinks
• 53:34
  that
• 53:34
  they
• 53:34
  have
• 53:34
  to
• 53:35
  write
• 53:35
  thing
• 53:35
  in
• 53:35
  verse
• 53:36
  and
• 53:37
  sometimes
• 53:38
  that's
• 53:38
  what
• 53:38
  kills
• 53:38
  a
• 53:38
  book.
• 53:40
  There
• 53:40
  are
• 53:40
  a
• 53:40
  lot
• 53:40
  of
• 53:40
  things
• 53:40
  that
• 53:41
  bother
• 53:41
  me
• 53:41
  about
• 53:42
  today's
• 53:43
  writing,
• 53:43
  but
• 53:43
  I
• 53:44
  think
• 53:44
  that
• 53:44
  we're
• 53:44
  cleaning
• 53:45
  ourselves
• 53:45
  up
• 53:46
  and
• 53:46
  I
• 53:46
  think
• 53:46
  that
• 53:47
  indie
• 53:47
  will
• 53:48
  be
• 53:48
  a
• 53:48
  good
• 53:48
  way
• 53:49
  to
• 53:49
  go
• 53:49
  down
• 53:49
  the
• 53:49
  road.
• 53:50
  And
• 53:50
  partly
• 53:51
  the
• 53:51
  reason
• 53:52
  I
• 53:52
  feel
• 53:52
  that
• 53:52
  is
• 53:53
  that
• 53:53
  you
• 53:53
  are
• 53:53
  so
• 53:54
  limited
• 53:54
  in
• 53:54
  traditional
• 53:55
  publishing
• 53:56
  because
• 53:56
  every
• 53:57
  year
• 53:57
  you're
• 53:58
  competing
• 53:58
  with
• 53:59
  Peter
• 53:59
  Rabbit
• 54:00
  and
• 54:01
  make
• 54:01
  way
• 54:01
  for
• 54:01
  ducklings.
• 54:02
  And
• 54:03
  every
• 54:04
  Disney
• 54:04
  story,
• 54:05
  imagine
• 54:05
  every
• 54:05
  Disney.
• 54:06
  Story,
• 54:06
  you're
• 54:07
  competing
• 54:07
  with
• 54:07
  them
• 54:08
  and
• 54:08
  they
• 54:09
  do
• 54:09
  those
• 54:09
  before
• 54:09
  they
• 54:10
  do
• 54:10
  buy
• 54:10
  a
• 54:11
  new
• 54:11
  one.
• 54:12
  So
• 54:12
  you
• 54:13
  have
• 54:13
  to
• 54:13
  build
• 54:14
  something
• 54:14
  really
• 54:15
  good
• 54:15
  enough
• 54:15
  that
• 54:16
  you
• 54:16
  can
• 54:17
  stay
• 54:17
  with
• 54:17
  them,
• 54:18
  you
• 54:18
  can
• 54:18
  stay
• 54:18
  on
• 54:19
  their
• 54:19
  level
• 54:19
  and
• 54:20
  people
• 54:20
  will
• 54:20
  want
• 54:20
  your
• 54:21
  books
• 54:21
  too.
• 54:22
  So
• 54:22
  what
• 54:22
  keeps
• 54:23
  you
• 54:23
  going
• 54:23
  as
• 54:23
  a
• 54:24
  children's
• 54:24
  book
• 54:24
  author?
• 54:25
  I
• 54:25
  do
• 54:26
  what
• 54:26
  I
• 54:26
  like
• 54:27
  and
• 54:28
  I've
• 54:28
  reached
• 54:29
  that
• 54:29
  point
• 54:29
  in
• 54:29
  my
• 54:29
  life.
• 54:29
  It's
• 54:30
  my
• 54:30
  right
• 54:30
  to
• 54:30
  do
• 54:30
  that.
• 54:31
  And
• 54:32
  I
• 54:32
  finally
• 54:32
  have
• 54:33
  realized
• 54:33
  I
• 54:34
  can't
• 54:34
  do
• 54:34
  everything.
• 54:35
  So
• 54:36
  I
• 54:36
  choose
• 54:36
  what
• 54:36
  I
• 54:36
  can
• 54:37
  do
• 54:37
  and
• 54:37
  what
• 54:37
  I
• 54:37
  enjoy
• 54:38
  doing.
• 54:38
  Right
• 54:39
  on.
• 54:39
  Good
• 54:39
  for
• 54:40
  you.
• 54:40
  Encouragement
• 54:41
  for
• 54:41
  Readers
• 54:42
  why
• 54:43
  should
• 54:43
  children's
• 54:43
  book
• 54:44
  readers
• 54:44
  purchase
• 54:45
  your
• 54:45
  books?
• 54:46
  Because
• 54:47
  I
• 54:47
  think
• 54:47
  that
• 54:47
  they
• 54:47
  have
• 54:48
  a
• 54:48
  fun
• 54:48
  story.
• 54:49
  Even
• 54:49
  one
• 54:50
  is
• 54:50
  no
• 54:50
  one
• 54:51
  could
• 54:51
  see
• 54:51
  the
• 54:51
  flea
• 54:52
  and
• 54:52
  it's
• 54:52
  about
• 54:53
  how
• 54:53
  things
• 54:54
  get
• 54:54
  out
• 54:54
  of
• 54:55
  hand
• 54:56
  sometimes
• 54:57
  when
• 54:57
  you
• 54:57
  don't
• 54:58
  even
• 54:58
  mean
• 54:58
  it
• 54:59
  and
• 54:59
  how
• 54:59
  ridiculous
• 55:00
  we
• 55:00
  can
• 55:00
  be.
• 55:01
  And
• 55:02
  those
• 55:02
  are
• 55:02
  the
• 55:02
  kinds
• 55:03
  of
• 55:03
  things
• 55:03
  that
• 55:03
  I
• 55:04
  like
• 55:04
  doing
• 55:04
  is
• 55:05
  pointing
• 55:05
  out
• 55:06
  our
• 55:07
  faults
• 55:08
  or
• 55:08
  our
• 55:08
  weaknesses
• 55:09
  in
• 55:09
  ways
• 55:10
  that
• 55:10
  there
• 55:10
  aren't
• 55:11
  lectures,
• 55:12
  just
• 55:12
  that
• 55:13
  the.
• 55:13
  Child
• 55:13
  goes
• 55:14
  Final
• 55:15
  Thoughts
• 55:16
  Trisha,
• 55:17
  is
• 55:17
  there
• 55:17
  anything
• 55:18
  that
• 55:18
  you
• 55:18
  wish
• 55:18
  I
• 55:18
  would
• 55:19
  have
• 55:19
  asked
• 55:19
  you
• 55:19
  that?
• 55:19
  Anything
• 55:20
  that
• 55:21
  it's
• 55:21
  like
• 55:21
  we
• 55:21
  touched
• 55:22
  on
• 55:22
  everything.
• 55:22
  Oh,
• 55:23
  terrific.
• 55:23
  I
• 55:23
  don't
• 55:24
  want
• 55:24
  to
• 55:24
  know
• 55:24
  that.
• 55:24
  And
• 55:25
  thank
• 55:25
  you
• 55:25
  for
• 55:25
  that.
• 55:26
  I
• 55:26
  just
• 55:26
  want
• 55:26
  to
• 55:26
  make
• 55:27
  sure
• 55:27
  that
• 55:27
  you.
• 55:27
  You
• 55:28
  had
• 55:28
  that
• 55:28
  chance.
• 55:28
  If
• 55:29
  there's
• 55:29
  something
• 55:29
  that
• 55:30
  you
• 55:30
  think
• 55:30
  that
• 55:30
  you'd
• 55:31
  like
• 55:31
  to
• 55:31
  share
• 55:31
  Tricia,
• 55:32
  thanks
• 55:32
  so
• 55:32
  much
• 55:33
  for
• 55:33
  being
• 55:33
  a
• 55:33
  guest
• 55:33
  on
• 55:34
  the
• 55:34
  Adventures
• 55:34
  in
• 55:34
  the
• 55:35
  Heart
• 55:35
  of
• 55:35
  Children's
• 55:35
  Book
• 55:35
  Authors
• 55:36
  Podcast.
• 55:37
  Your
• 55:37
  generosity
• 55:38
  of
• 55:38
  time
• 55:38
  and
• 55:39
  insights.
• 55:40
  Wow.
• 55:40
  A
• 55:40
  lot
• 55:40
  of
• 55:40
  insights
• 55:41
  here
• 55:41
  will
• 55:42
  significantly
• 55:43
  benefit
• 55:43
  aspiring
• 55:44
  authors
• 55:45
  and
• 55:45
  readers.
• 55:46
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• 55:47
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• 55:47
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• 55:49
  audience
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  social
• 55:51
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