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Nick Fuentes RESPONDS to Candace Owens Shocking Withdrawal - Reaction America Unfiltered #168 · America Unfiltered With James P

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  America, we are back, baby. Welcome to Friday's casual
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  episode of America Unfiltered. We got a great show for you
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  guys. Tonight.
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  I want to do a reaction stream to Nicholas Fuentes stream from
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  last night where he talks about Venezuela and he talks about
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  Candace Owens dropping out of the Turning Point USA tell all.
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  I mean, this was crazy. I am someone who has kind of had
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  Candace's back a little bit, but this is a weird, weird move.
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  She goes on her show and says any place, anytime.
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  And then they're like, OK, we'll do the 15th, we'll do it at this
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  time. And she's like, you know what?
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  I'll just live stream into it. It's like, OK, like what's going
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  on Candace, but we're going to listen to Nick Fuentes stream
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  about this. I only saw clips.
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  I haven't seen the full thing yet.
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  So we're going to be watching it for the first time together.
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  Hope you guys enjoy. I do want to bring you guys
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  You're watching America First. My name is Nicholas J Fuentes.
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  We have a lot to talk about tonight.
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  Lots to get into. Big show.
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  Sorry I'm late. I had to wake up really early
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  for this other show and I'm not, I'm not really built for that
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  honestly. I had to wake up at 9:00 AM to
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  do Steven Crowder this morning, 9:00 AM.
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  Are you kidding me? I don't even remember the last
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  time I woke up that early. Must have been like high school.
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  6:30 AM, Get on the bus 745. It's totally insane.
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  It's totally crazy. Who does the show at 10 AM?
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  Who's even awake besides like teachers and like the tollway or
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  something? Anyway, so I had to take a nap,
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  as you know, and now I'm awake and I'm wired and I'm ready to
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  go. The show happens when it's meant
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  to happen. That's how I feel.
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  You can't rush a great show. The finest show is when I'm I'm
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  really ready, like I'm dialed in for it, so.
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  That's why I'm late occasionally here as well.
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  Perfection takes time. Folks, oh, I really took my
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  time. It's 12401241 AMII remember I
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  was like on the couch at like 7:00 PM and I kept setting
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  alarms like 7107374582930AS. I kept setting alarms.
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  And then finally I was like, you know, I think this is the time.
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  I think I'm ready now. So we're ready and we're going
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  to have a great show. Our featured story tonight we're
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  talking all about Candace Owens. My girlfriend is at it again.
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  I'm sorry guys, I don't know what to tell you.
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  She doesn't listen. Candace Owens is back in the
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  news. What's going on?
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  So she finally got everything she wanted.
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  She has been spreading so much malicious disinformation that
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  it's ripping the country apart. It's creating a national
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  emergency. She's making me actually start
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  to drift to the left because for so many years, they said
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  disinformation, misinformation. You're a grifter pushing
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  misinformation. And I said they're just trying
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  to suppress free speech. And then Candace Owen starts a
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  YouTube channel and it's like, I had a dream about a beekeeper
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  and all the people in the maroon shirts and these Egyptian planes
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  and there's like a 10 million people that are totally into
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  this. It's like we got a problem.
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  We have a real, this is like, it's actually a little scary.
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  So anyway, she finally got what she wanted.
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  She drove Turning Point USA to the point with her malicious
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  disinformation, finally, where Turning Point said they're going
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  to do a live stream and they're going to explain themselves.
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  They're going to justify why they didn't kill their own boss.
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  That's how insane this has gotten.
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  Everybody is so whipped up about this that Turning Point USA is
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  going to host their own live stream.
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  And all of these people who are friends with Charlie Kirk in
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  real life, who are probably there at his wedding, at his
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  children's baptism, or well, I don't know how they do it as
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  Protestants. But his closest friends, his
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  wife, they're going to get on a live stream and explain for all
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  these psychos why they didn't murder their own boss with
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  France and Israel and Egypt and the United States and people in
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  maroon shirts and the beekeeper society.
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  And so, and, and this is like, we got to give her credit.
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  It's a huge win for Candace. She wanted disclosure, She
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  wanted transparency. She's getting it.
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  Turning Point answered her questions on a brief video and
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  they announced this live stream where they're going to give a
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  formal response. OK, you won.
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  You did it even better. Turning Point says she's invited
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  to come to the live stream. OK, home run.
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  Easiest victory ever. It's free.
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  It's free. She's been pushing them for
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  three months to answer the questions and they set her up
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  for like. This has got to be, if it
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  happens, the most anticipated live stream of the year.
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  She has had the biggest show in this final quarter, millions of
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  views on YouTube, on Spotify, on X.
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  And if she goes to Turning Point and she puts the screws in them,
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  she is either going to blow the lid on the whole thing and
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  credit where it's due, She will be the number one journalist of
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  the of the century. Or we find out we get to the
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  bottom of it, that Turning Point was not complicit in the murder
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  of Charlie Kirk. And nobody could say then that
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  we didn't do our due diligence because he got Candace there so
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  everybody could breathe a sigh of relief.
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  And I think that's a victory for her too, because then she gets
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  to say, well, I, I've discovered the truth.
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  But we find out today she's not going to go.
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  I'm sure you've all seen this. Turning point says they're going
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  to do a live stream. They're going to answer all the
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  questions about Charlie Kurtz. They invite her to to show up.
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  She says, challenge accepted. Name the time, name the place.
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  We don't need to plan it out. Let's just do it.
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  They say, OK, December 15th. She goes, oh, but I that's a bad
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  day for me. I can't do it then.
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  Can I? Can I Skype in?
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  Can I Zoom, bitch? We can't.
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  What are we doing here? And I said it on Telegram.
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  You actually just have to admire the audacity.
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  This woman has gone in every single day for three months and
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  she has dragged everybody. And like every country, the
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  wife, the friends, the company, the government, the FBI, Israel,
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  France, Egypt, she's dragged everybody through this.
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  Whatever you want to call it, this investigation, it's served
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  up to her on a silver platter. All right, uncle, we give up.
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  We're losing to disinformation and mass hysteria.
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  You know, the open society is failing.
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  Mass psychosis has taken hold over the nation.
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  Fine, we'll do a live stream. We'll justify why we didn't kill
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  our boss. And you can ask us anything you
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  want. Just show up and she goes.
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  I can't that day. Honestly.
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  What else do you have going on? This is your job.
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  You're a YouTube. She acts like she's like, she's
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  a wagy, like, oh, I got to check with my boss.
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  This is your job. This has been your obsession and
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  crusade for three months. Literally, what could you have
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  going on? And I see some people already
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  defending. They say, well, you'd understand
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  if you had kids. It's Christmas time, OK?
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  I think you get a special dispensation.
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  First of all, it's the 15th. People are working and going to
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  school right up until Christmas Eve.
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  Sometimes it's 10 days before Christmas, OK?
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  Second of all, you know, I think her family would understand.
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  Her whole family's dragged. I think her family would
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  understand. Maybe we could reschedule the
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  family Christmas party to the 17th and 19th.
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  Go and do what you got to do. People will defend anything, I
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  guess, but then it gets better. She says, Well, I'm not going to
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  go to Phoenix in person. I'll live stream their live
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  stream. So you're too busy to go in
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  person, but you're not busy enough to live stream the event
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  from your house. Does that even make sense to
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  anybody? You can't cancel your show
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  talking about Charlie Kirk's death to go to Turning Point to
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  ask them about Charlie Kirk's death because you're too busy
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  doing your show. This is This is why crazy
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  bitches, they make the whole world crazy.
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  They make you sound crazy. They make you go crazy anyway,
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  so we'll talk about it. That's going to be our featured
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  story. Totally insane.
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  I and I can't believe how many people are falling for it.
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  And it just goes to show, by the way, and I don't care how much
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  Flack I get for saying this, I don't give a shit anymore.
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  I'll tell you the truth. All I know how to do is cut
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  through the bullshit. I'm not setting plays, I'm not
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  strategizing. I'm too cynical about all of
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  these fucking two faced liars. This low IQ conspiracy theory
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  stuff it, it's just, it's a huge problem now.
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  It's complete irrationality. People don't even care about the
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  truth. They have no relationship to it.
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  And the conspiracy theory used to be the truth.
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  It used to be the case that the government was and big tech was
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  suppressing speech. And if you were a conspiracy
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  theorist, it's because you cared about the truth.
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  You wanted the truth to get out there about 911 about JFK, about
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  what, whatever, all these different things.
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  It was your commitment to the truth that led you down these
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  rabbit holes and LED you to press up against the system and
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  maybe get censored or attacked or defamed or whatever.
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  And now it's just become pure paranoia, pure irrationality.
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  And, and it's it's reflexive and we'll talk about it tonight.
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  That'll be our main story. But it it's just like, I don't
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  get it. I really don't.
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  I don't understand how these brain damaged old people.
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  And it's it's a lot of women. It's a lot of men too, sadly,
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  and some young people. But it's a lot of it's a lot of
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  women and a lot of brain damaged old people that have been sucked
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  up into this. I feel sorry for them.
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  It's like Q Anon. It's literally no different than
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  the Trump cult than Q Anon. It's the same thing.
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  And here it is. She gets invited to go to
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  Turning Point. Isn't this the whole, this is
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  the end game? OK, you won.
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  Go and ask them. You're leading the
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  investigation. Charlie told me in a dream that
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  he was set up and betrayed. I'm going to take the charge,
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  blah, blah. They invite her to come and do
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  the show. She goes, oh, I can't.
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  And immediately people say, well, she's got kids.
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  Well, it's Christmas. Well, what if they're going to
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  kill her? You know, I think that if she
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  went to Turning Point and died there, I think that would be a
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  little too on the nose. You know, they're saying she
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  can't go to Turning Point, they'll kill her there.
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  It's like this is all happening on Twitter.
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  How would they get away with that?
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  Does that even, does that even make any sense?
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  I've just, I've never seen anything like it, honestly.
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  And. Yeah, imagine Candace goes to
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  turning point for the thing and then like 2 days later she
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  mysteriously like, I don't know, something crazy happens like
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  that, Like a heart attack, some mystery event.
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  How fucking painfully obvious would it be that?
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  I mean, I don't know, it's just it's delusion when people are
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  like, they'll kill her if she goes that.
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  That part's crazy. It's making me seriously
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  reconsider a lot of things. Not, not the Jewish issue or
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  anything like that, but you realize that a lot of this stuff
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  has gone too far. It's hit the high watermark.
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  And by that I mean, you know, when you don't have these
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  institutions, when you don't have anything like that, then
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  you just get there's no bottom, there's no floor for how far you
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  fall into psychosis like this. Like that's the only thing I
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  could say about it. I watch her show.
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  I don't know how people eat this stuff up.
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  I'm watching her show. She's literally saying, this
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  whole year I've been having visions and dreams of beekeepers
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  and this is literally her show. I'm like, how are I?
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  I'm scared. I'm scared that normal people
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  are watching this, people that I know are watching this and
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  eating this up. It's like it's disturbing, it's
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  deranged. And I, I didn't get involved in
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  all this for that. I didn't get involved in this.
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  To hear some like fucking black female guru tell us about her
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  fucking dreams and these low IQ conspiracies.
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  It's an insult to conspiracy theories.
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  It's an insult to the radical right.
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  It's a fucking joke and I don't want anything to do with it.
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  And I'm glad that we had a falling out.
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  Thank God, because I can't imagine even trying or feeling
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  obligated to have to defend this.
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  It's it's gross. So anyway, we'll get into all
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  that. We're also going to.
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  At this point, it is getting hard to defend.
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  I mean, I'm someone who has been like saying let's see what
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  Candace is doing. I was counter signaling her for
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  a bit and then I was like, you know what, We're going to take a
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  break on it. We're going to we're going to
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  see what she's got to say. We're going to see where this
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  investigation goes. And then she accepts the
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  invitation and they're like, OK, great.
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  She goes anytime, anyplace. And then she's like, that
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  doesn't work for me. I'm a mom.
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  Like what the fuck, Candace? To talk tonight about Venezuela,
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  they're ramping up in Venezuela. Looks like a war is imminent,
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  but we'll talk about some of the details and some of these
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  specifications. It doesn't look like there's
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  going to be an invasion and I'll tell you why that is.
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  If there's going to be a military operation, it it looks
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  like it will be limited. And I think that just has to do
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  with the troop totals down there, unless there's some,
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  unless they're amassing an army of a, of a serious size that
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  we're not aware of. And it looks like maybe the
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  latest development is that elements inside the government
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  are trying to prevent this from happening.
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  I think that the reason they are honing in on the September 2nd
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  boat strike probably is to constrain the administration.
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  And so it appeared that Trump was moving very fast and without
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  any restraint towards a unilateral war in Venezuela.
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  And by unilateral, I don't mean Washington, I mean him.
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  Trump was, it looked as though he was going to single handedly
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  plunge us into a war without Congress, without a vote,
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  without anything. And now it seems that there
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  might be some pushback to maybe slow down the tempo a little
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  bit, which I'm actually glad to see.
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  So we'll talk about some of these latest developments.
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  There's been a lot of them. Trump apparently held a phone
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  call with Maduro. You've got the aircraft carrier
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  strike group making a port call in the US Virgin Islands.
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  Serious naval posture. 25% of the active U.S.
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  Navy is deployed off the coast of Venezuela at the same time.
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  Now this whole week they've been talking about these drug
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  trafficking boat strikes and might create some serious
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  problems for the war. So we'll talk about all that.
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  Yeah, it's a little bit late. I didn't do a show last night.
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  It's just been a very slow week. I feel like nothing has been
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  happening in the news at all. So that's a slow Newsweek.
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  I didn't do a show last night. I was a little tired and I I was
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  thinking about cancelling tonight.
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  Again, there's like nothing in the news.
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  But I said I can't, I can't skip so much of the show.
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  But also, before we get into the news, I had this major
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  collaboration with Steven Crowder this morning and I hope
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  you all tuned in. I thought it was great.
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  We had a pretty solid viewership.
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  I think there were 85,000 people watching on Rumble, I don't know
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  how many on YouTube, but I thought it went really great.
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  I was very pleasantly surprised. I had no idea what to expect.
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  And him and I have both said negative things about each other
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  in the past. And so like with everything
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  else, I had no idea if it was going to be a confrontation, if
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  it was going to be hostile. But they emailed me and they
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  said it's going to be a discussion, we want you to flesh
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  out your views. I said, well, I'm happy to do
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  it. So I went on the show and and
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  you can watch it, It's on Rumble, it's on Steven Crowder's
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  channel, it's on YouTube as well.
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  And I was very pleasantly surprised.
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  I was surprised at how well I got along with him.
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  I didn't think I would, to tell you the truth, but I did.
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  And I thought he was very congenial and very nice and fair
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  and we didn't agree on everything.
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  I actually really liked the interview because we had a
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  serious disagreement. It heated, it almost got heated,
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  but it wasn't personal. It wasn't personal.
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  It wasn't name calling. It wasn't vicious.
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  We have a, we have a strong disagreement.
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  He's I think he would call himself more of a conservative
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  and I'm a reactionary. I'm, I am more radical and I
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  don't say that to one up him, but I just am, I'm, I'm more
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  radical in my tactics. I think my ideology is more
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  radical. And we had a pretty intense
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  disagreement about Trump and about how we move forward with
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  Trump. And he was pressing me and I
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  pushed back a little bit. But you know what?
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  It was a, it was a good faith disagreement and I like that.
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  I have no problem with that. I actually invite it.
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  I welcome it because I love to talk about ideas.
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  What I don't like is when people say, oh, you're not saying what
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  you mean when people call me a liar or when people do the
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  personal stuff or, you know, just in general when people act
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  in bad faith, I'm even OK. We walk through a lot of the
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  clips that sound bad and I don't love doing that, but I also
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  don't shy away from it. I'll, if it's in good faith,
• 18:38
  I'll explain what I meant in a certain clip or, or things that
• 18:41
  people are unsure about. I have no problem with it.
• 18:43
  And so I, I really appreciated the way that he handled it.
• 18:47
  I thought it showed a lot of integrity because he could have
• 18:49
  went, he could have been a real Dick, 'cause I, we, the gripers
• 18:53
  did show up to his events years ago and I've said very shitty
• 18:56
  things about him. He could have been a real jerk
• 18:58
  to me and he probably would have been justified and it would have
• 19:00
  been better for him. It would have been easy for him
• 19:02
  to totally throw me under the bus and play games and attack me
• 19:05
  and, and it would have been very easy and it would have been
• 19:07
  unpleasant and the gripers would have been mad and his people be
• 19:10
  patting him on the back. But to his credit, total Class
• 19:14
  act, completely fair, completely honest.
• 19:17
  He told me exactly how I was going to go.
• 19:19
  And then I think the way that he handled it, it was a completely
• 19:21
  fair interview. And we didn't even agree on
• 19:23
  everything, but we fleshed out where each of us stood in
• 19:25
  detail. And I think we defined those
• 19:28
  disagreements pretty clearly. And then by the end of it, it
• 19:30
  was pretty friendly. So I was very pleasantly
• 19:34
  surprised. And and I don't say surprised
• 19:36
  because I think he's a bad guy, but I had no idea what how it's
• 19:39
  going to go. And, and very rarely does it go
• 19:41
  that well. So I I really like that and and
• 19:44
  I was happy to do it. So maybe we could do it again in
• 19:46
  the future. I'm not going to hold him to
• 19:47
  that. I know maybe he doesn't want to
• 19:49
  be towards the end. He's like, yeah, don't, don't go
• 19:51
  and say you're in the mud club or whatever.
• 19:52
  We were kind of joking about that but but no I I totally
• 19:56
  consider him to be a solid guy, stand up guy nothing but nice
• 19:59
  things to say about it. I I was really happy with it.
• 20:00
  So you can go and check it out. It had great reviews too.
• 20:03
  I was going through the YouTube comments.
• 20:04
  Everybody loved it and that made me very happy so great interview
• 20:09
  but that's not all Monday we have Piers Morgan in the
• 20:12
  morning. Now that one I definitely think
• 20:14
  it's going to be hostile because I do think that Piers Morgan
• 20:16
  operates in bad faith. I hope he doesn't and if he's
• 20:19
  not, I'll I'll treat him the same way I treated Steven.
• 20:21
  But. I think it's going to be a lot
• 20:23
  of interrupting and sensational stuff, and I'm prepared for
• 20:25
  that. But that'll be on Monday and
• 20:27
  then Thursday I'm doing my annual stream with Richard
• 20:30
  Spencer, which we tend to do every time, every year around
• 20:33
  this time. And so that'll be kind of
• 20:35
  interesting. So we still have a big line up
• 20:37
  out of us. OK, with that out of the way,
• 20:40
  and we're going to dive into the news.
• 20:41
  How do I look? I feel like I look skinny.
• 20:43
  My diet is working. I told you, you know, I'm on
• 20:47
  this diet and it's like ruining my life.
• 20:48
  It's making me want to commit suicide.
• 20:52
  I'm just so hungry all the time. But you know what, I think it's
• 20:56
  paying off. I was looking at myself before I
• 20:58
  started the show. You tell me, what do you think?
• 21:01
  I don't want to. I don't want to slouch.
• 21:02
  What do you think? I think I'm I'm getting, you
• 21:07
  know, it's when it starts to pay off, that's when it makes it
• 21:09
  worth it. Anyway, so that's just been an
• 21:12
  ongoing. I've been on this diet all week
• 21:14
  and I've been miserable. All right, but let's get into
• 21:16
  it. We're going to dive into our
• 21:17
  featured story here, our first stories about Candace Owens, and
• 21:22
  we're even to begin with this. Well, we'll talk about the
• 21:25
  events from this week. So as you know, Candace Owens
• 21:29
  has been on a crusade. She has been a woman possessed,
• 21:35
  obsessed with getting to the bottom of Charlie Kirk's
• 21:38
  assassination. She believes there was a
• 21:40
  conspiracy to kill him, an elaborate conspiracy that
• 21:44
  involved multiple governments and multiple law enforcement
• 21:47
  agencies and people inside Charlie Kirk's organization.
• 21:51
  This is her theory. This is her conjecture.
• 21:55
  As you know, for three months she has done, I think almost
• 21:57
  every single show that she has done has been about this.
• 22:01
  She has deputized her millions of followers to help her in this
• 22:04
  investigation. And they have left no stone
• 22:06
  unturned. They've looked at apparently the
• 22:10
  report by the attending physician.
• 22:12
  They have looked at the tunnels, the the utility hatch underneath
• 22:16
  the tent. They have looked at every angle,
• 22:19
  a video showing the assassination.
• 22:20
  They have looked at the SD cards and the cameras from Turning
• 22:23
  Point. They have looked at everybody in
• 22:25
  the audience, the person that asked the final question.
• 22:27
  They've looked at Turning Point personnel.
• 22:29
  They brought in flight logs from an Egyptian military aircraft,
• 22:33
  from multiple, multiple Egyptian military aircraft.
• 22:36
  And they are alleging her and her followers are alleging that
• 22:39
  this is a, a truly multilateral conspiracy involving the FBI,
• 22:46
  the Utah police, Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk's wife, his
• 22:49
  best friends, his business associates, Donald Trump, JD
• 22:53
  Vance, the French government, the Israeli government, the
• 22:56
  Egyptian government, the Mossad. Like this is the theory that
• 22:59
  this is a conspiracy involving maybe hundreds of people, maybe
• 23:02
  thousands, dozens of people in Provo, UT that day.
• 23:06
  Like I said, people in these law enforcement, intelligence
• 23:08
  agencies at the highest levels of government.
• 23:10
  She's alleging there is a vast conspiracy to to kill Charlie
• 23:15
  Kirk. Why?
• 23:16
  Who knows? Ostensibly, they say it was to
• 23:19
  shut him up because he was about to turn against Israel.
• 23:22
  They say that's why. With that in mind, Turning Point
• 23:27
  USA hosted an event with Tucker Carlson a few weeks after he
• 23:29
  died, and then Tucker did a show with me.
• 23:32
  So how does that make sense? Last I checked, Tucker is going
• 23:35
  to be at America Fest in December.
• 23:36
  So how do you explain that? The FBI, the French, the
• 23:39
  Israelis, the United States, Turning Point, the Mormons?
• 23:42
  They killed Charlie because he refused to disavow Tucker.
• 23:47
  Now that Charlie's out of the picture, they're going to bring
• 23:49
  Tucker to their events and Tucker's going to do a show with
• 23:52
  me and then he's going to go to America Fest and headline.
• 23:55
  It doesn't even make any sense anyway.
• 23:57
  We're not going to litigate that theory, but this has been the
• 23:59
  theory and it is, in my opinion, done a lot of damage to the
• 24:05
  country because there are millions of people that are
• 24:07
  watching this and they seem to be completely divorced from
• 24:10
  reality. We're three months in and there
• 24:12
  seems to be no evidence at all. And much of the evidence is
• 24:15
  wrong. For example, she talks about
• 24:17
  this Egyptian military plane, and she got the time zone wrong
• 24:21
  because she didn't know what UTC meant.
• 24:23
  She thought it meant Utah time. And so she had an Egyptian plane
• 24:27
  present during the assassination and leaving afterward.
• 24:30
  But she misplaced it because she got the time zone wrong.
• 24:33
  And when people corrected her, she came out and said, well, you
• 24:36
  correcting me proves that I'm right because you wouldn't care
• 24:40
  if I wasn't over the target. It is really funny because that
• 24:45
  is like the most woman response ever.
• 24:47
  It's like the only reason you would question that is because
• 24:50
  I'm right. It it is, when you really think
• 24:53
  about it, just the most woman response to ever exist.
• 24:56
  And it's things like that that freak me out because it's like,
• 24:59
  if you're right, you're over the target.
• 25:01
  If you're wrong, you're also over the target.
• 25:04
  She comes out with this conspiracy that France is trying
• 25:07
  to kill her. She says France is trying to
• 25:09
  kill me. Then she comes out and says the
• 25:11
  French government didn't respond.
• 25:12
  The American government didn't respond.
• 25:14
  Suspicious. But didn't she say months ago
• 25:18
  that when the Israeli government responded to claims that they
• 25:20
  killed Charlie Kirk, that that was suspicious too?
• 25:23
  So if they say something, they're in on it.
• 25:25
  If they say nothing, they're in on it.
• 25:28
  It's this confirmation bias. No matter what the outcome is,
• 25:31
  whether the facts are right or wrong, or whether they never
• 25:33
  arrive at all, it always furthers.
• 25:36
  Oh well, they wouldn't do that unless, Oh well, that's really
• 25:39
  weird, isn't it? Just asking questions.
• 25:41
  There's always just this insinuation.
• 25:43
  There's never actually anything concrete or tangible or real.
• 25:48
  There's no I don't even think there's a coherent theory at
• 25:51
  this point that explains it from point A to point B.
• 25:54
  It's just a sort of general, every permutation is
• 25:57
  simultaneously true all at once. And that's just not
• 26:02
  intellectually rigorous and it's not serious and it's not honest.
• 26:05
  And anyway, I think this is doing profound damage to the
• 26:07
  country. I think it's disturbing.
• 26:08
  I think it's weird that millions of people are watching this and
• 26:11
  they're buying into this psychosis.
• 26:14
  And it has gotten to the point now where the people that are
• 26:16
  being implicated in the conspiracy, I'm sure they're
• 26:18
  being harassed in their real life.
• 26:20
  She's going on a show that millions of people watch and
• 26:22
  she's naming private individuals and inciting her followers to
• 26:26
  harass these people, whether it's people that, you know,
• 26:30
  there's like a state representative and there's
• 26:31
  people in the audience and the guy that asks a question and,
• 26:34
  and Turning Point USA itself. And you know me, I don't love
• 26:37
  Turning Point and I don't love the people in there and I don't
• 26:39
  trust them. I don't trust Andrew Colvin.
• 26:41
  I mean, the guy's a spook. And I could tell you all about
• 26:43
  Andrew Colvin. I don't trust him for two
• 26:45
  seconds. Blake Neff, he seems a little
• 26:46
  better. Jack was sobic, I think is a
• 26:48
  fad. So I don't really trust any of
• 26:51
  those people there. But with that being said, these
• 26:53
  are all people that weren't friends with Charlie Kirk,
• 26:55
  worked with Charlie Kirk. They're being accused of killing
• 26:57
  him, and these millions of people are being deputized to go
• 27:01
  and harass them and attack them and say that they're in on this
• 27:03
  big thing really with no evidence.
• 27:04
  And so finally, Turning Point USA comes out with a statement
• 27:08
  earlier this week. And Blake Neff makes a
• 27:10
  statement. And Blake Neff, it was really
• 27:12
  the mastermind behind the Charlie Kirk podcast.
• 27:15
  He used to be a writer for Tucker Carlson.
• 27:17
  And Blake Neff comes out with a statement and says, we're going
• 27:20
  to do a live stream. It's a formal response.
• 27:23
  He says Turning Point is going to, I don't know if they're
• 27:26
  going to bring together a panel, but they said they're going to
• 27:28
  address all the allegations piece by piece and they're going
• 27:30
  to formally respond to all the allegations.
• 27:34
  And they even addressed some with specificity in this
• 27:36
  announcement. They said they talked about the
• 27:38
  personnel that arranged the campus tour.
• 27:40
  They talked about the date of the campus tour and where it was
• 27:43
  and, and the personnel that were involved in planning the whole
• 27:45
  thing. And, and so they went through
• 27:47
  and debunked a few things and said, we're going to give a
• 27:48
  complete and formal and full response later in the month.
• 27:52
  And, and this is the best part. They say Candace is invited, she
• 27:55
  can come to the studio, she can be on the live stream and ask us
• 27:58
  anything. And I thought, wow, what a great
• 28:02
  opportunity. And honestly, I would watch
• 28:04
  that. This is a victory.
• 28:08
  I don't know what keeps going on.
• 28:09
  For some reason the screen keeps resizing for no fucking reason
• 28:12
  at all. Just if I could fix that, I
• 28:15
  think I what the fuck This is so fucking weird.
• 28:25
  Let's just try it like this. Free, it's a huge win because if
• 28:28
  you're pushing for the truth, if you're pushing for transparency,
• 28:33
  for exposure, then how do you do better than this?
• 28:37
  They're inviting you to do it live in person so you can't hide
• 28:41
  on a live stream. If it's going out live, they
• 28:43
  can't edit it, they can't change it in in post production.
• 28:47
  And if it's in person, then you're not going to have any
• 28:50
  concern about AI, about people in an earpiece, because that's
• 28:53
  always the concern when you do it remote is that if you're in a
• 28:56
  different studio, then there's always suspicion people are
• 28:58
  going to say, well, who's in the earpiece?
• 29:00
  Is there a teleprompter? Are they being fed something in
• 29:03
  real time in this day and age by AI?
• 29:05
  It makes it not fair. I'm a big believer in that.
• 29:07
  So this is like the perfect setup.
• 29:09
  I mean, it's on a silver platter.
• 29:11
  They said we're going to answer every question and you are
• 29:14
  invited live in person. We'll stream it and you can ask
• 29:17
  anything. That's a giant victory because
• 29:21
  even if you're someone like myself that believes that
• 29:23
  Turning Point was not involved in it, this is due diligence.
• 29:27
  This is transparency. If you had any questions about
• 29:30
  it, you would want this because this is going to bring the facts
• 29:33
  to light. And by the way, I will say, even
• 29:35
  if somebody that disagrees vehemently with Candace and what
• 29:38
  she's doing, and I don't even like her, it is on, ironically,
• 29:41
  a victory for her. Now, I think that how she
• 29:44
  achieved this was a reckless disregard for the truth.
• 29:48
  That being said, she got it. She got the show and I would
• 29:51
  watch it and I would watch it with an open mind.
• 29:53
  And if you care about the truth, you would say, yeah, go, go to
• 29:56
  the. It would easily be the most
• 29:58
  watched thing of the year. I like not even close.
• 30:02
  It would be the most watched event of the year if Candace sat
• 30:05
  down with Turning Point USA and Erica Kirk at the Turning Point
• 30:10
  studio and talk this out. It would easily be that big.
• 30:14
  And Candace backing out is really odd.
• 30:17
  I mean, Nick makes some incredible points about this.
• 30:20
  Headquarters and we'll find out if you're right.
• 30:22
  We will apologize. If you're right, then I will eat
• 30:25
  this hat. I will eat this hat on the show.
• 30:30
  And I will apologize and say, you know what?
• 30:32
  She was right all along and she's the journalist of the
• 30:34
  century because she exposed this.
• 30:36
  She forced them to be transparent, and then she got
• 30:38
  him on the stream. I'd be the first one.
• 30:40
  Honest to God, I think she should do it.
• 30:43
  And if she's proven wrong, well, then at the minimum, if you're a
• 30:47
  defender, you could say, well, she got transparency.
• 30:50
  She fought for the truth when no one else fought as hard.
• 30:53
  And whether it goes her way or it doesn't go her way, everyone
• 30:56
  is better off because now we know the answers.
• 30:58
  We have more information than when we started.
• 31:00
  And that's good. And it might hurt her pride.
• 31:03
  It might hurt her ego. I don't even, and it might
• 31:05
  discredit her. But you know what?
• 31:07
  There's a way that she could spin that.
• 31:08
  And she could say, well, you know what?
• 31:09
  We pushed and we got to the bottom of it.
• 31:13
  But you have to do it. So they tell her you can come
• 31:16
  out and you can go to the studio.
• 31:18
  We'll do a live ask anything you and you can respond in 24 hours,
• 31:22
  I think they said. And so Candace goes on her show
• 31:24
  and she says name the time, name the place.
• 31:26
  I'll do it. Let's do it tomorrow.
• 31:28
  We don't have to plan it. We don't need lawyers.
• 31:30
  Let's just do it 'cause I care about the truth.
• 31:34
  So at midnight last night, Turning Point puts out a
• 31:36
  statement. This is what they say.
• 31:39
  This is Blake Naff. Blake Naff says, quote.
• 31:41
  The live stream we announced on the show Wednesday has been set
• 31:43
  at 4:00 PM Eastern, 2:00 PM local time.
• 31:46
  On Monday, December 15th, a collection of Charlie's friends
• 31:48
  will respond to statements made by Candace Owens to set the
• 31:51
  record straight once and for all prior to the opening of
• 31:53
  Americafest. Which is there, that this is
• 31:55
  their big conference, which is going to take place like a day
• 31:57
  later. He says we'll be live streaming
• 32:00
  from Charlie's Phoenix studio. Our offer from yesterday holds.
• 32:03
  If Candace wishes to join us in person in Phoenix, she is
• 32:06
  welcome to do so. She can let us know by the end
• 32:08
  of the day. Beautiful, perfect.
• 32:11
  If I'm Candace Owens, I am jumping on a private jet and I'm
• 32:15
  there. She's got that kind of money.
• 32:17
  Her husband's loaded. She makes millions of dollars
• 32:20
  from her YouTube channel. You know how loaded her family
• 32:23
  is. Her her father-in-law is this
• 32:26
  loaded commodities trader. He's one of the biggest donors
• 32:28
  for the Conservative Party in the United Kingdom.
• 32:30
  And Candace has don't donors too like John Mappen or is it Joe
• 32:34
  John? I know that John Mappin would
• 32:36
  pay for her private flight. The Scientologist that
• 32:39
  introduced her to her husband George Farmer.
• 32:41
  John Mappin, the Scientologist who descends from the family
• 32:45
  that makes the jewels for the British crown.
• 32:48
  John Mappin, the man that takes credit for introducing her and
• 32:51
  her husband at Turning Point UK, the organization that he funded
• 32:56
  that launched an event that he hosted.
• 32:59
  I'm sure that Mappin would love to pay for that flight.
• 33:01
  He's been writing letters about her, writing Substack posts, and
• 33:04
  she's been retweeting him. He would pay for the private
• 33:06
  jet. She could literally take a
• 33:07
  private jet armed to the teeth with a private security force
• 33:11
  and she could arrange that. It's in 10 days.
• 33:14
  This was her response. She says quote kind of weird how
• 33:19
  you didn't e-mail or call me to ask about times or availability
• 33:22
  and chose to instead tweet this confirmation out at midnight.
• 33:27
  Really. Why am I learning about this on
• 33:29
  X? Why am I learning about this?
• 33:31
  I I love the like Karen tone. She's such a bitch.
• 33:34
  It's unbelievable. It's not, it's not why did you
• 33:37
  do this? It's why am I learning about
• 33:39
  this on X? She reminds me of every bitchy
• 33:44
  mom in my like Midwestern town, every one of those like Snooty.
• 33:50
  Why am I learning about this on X?
• 33:52
  She says December 15th does not work in person and 2:00 PM is
• 33:57
  also the literal time I do my podcast every day, which you
• 34:01
  knew. But we will happily cancel the
• 34:03
  daily podcast and join you guys virtually instead for the live
• 34:06
  stream on the 15th. If that works on your end, let's
• 34:08
  lock it in. And I love it's, this is the
• 34:13
  Candace Owens MO. It's to find things that are
• 34:16
  completely arbitrary and then just vaguely insinuate that
• 34:19
  there's something conspiratorial.
• 34:20
  So she says. Kind of weird how you didn't
• 34:23
  e-mail or call me to ask about times.
• 34:26
  What's weird about that? Didn't you say on your show, on
• 34:30
  your own show name, the time, name the place.
• 34:32
  We don't need to plan it. We don't need lawyers.
• 34:34
  Just just say it. And so they go on Twitter and
• 34:37
  say, well, this is when we're doing the live stream and you're
• 34:40
  welcome to join us. And she goes, MMM, kind of
• 34:42
  weird. Not weird.
• 34:43
  No, it's kind of weird. I'm sorry.
• 34:45
  What's weird about that? You think they're going to send
• 34:47
  you an e-mail after you accuse them of killing their boss?
• 34:51
  Crazy. And you said yourself, you're
• 34:52
  not going to go through lawyers. So how exactly did you want it?
• 34:55
  Did you want it carried by a messenger pigeon?
• 34:58
  She goes, why am I finding out about this on X?
• 35:00
  This is really weird. Why didn't you call me?
• 35:01
  Call you? You're telling them that they
• 35:03
  killed their boss. You think they're going to say,
• 35:05
  hey, Candace, hi, hope you're doing well.
• 35:08
  So we're thinking of doing this live stream defending ourselves
• 35:10
  from the allegation that we're working with France and Israel
• 35:13
  to kill our own boss and friend that you're that you're telling
• 35:16
  millions of people with no evidence.
• 35:17
  When did you want to do that? What works for?
• 35:19
  How do you think that's going to go?
• 35:22
  She goes, why am I learning about it on X?
• 35:24
  Then she says you chose to tweet this confirmation out at
• 35:26
  midnight again. OK, So what?
• 35:30
  What? When were they supposed to tweet
• 35:31
  it out during business hours? You're only supposed to respond
• 35:34
  to these things during business hours.
• 35:35
  You know, it's a 21st century. Like people are up at midnight,
• 35:38
  we're on social media, you're up at midnight even.
• 35:40
  What are you talking about? Isn't it weird that they posted
• 35:42
  it on Twitter and at midnight? No, not really.
• 35:45
  What is that part of the French Connection to?
• 35:47
  It's like with the text messages on Discord.
• 35:50
  L Reeve is pressing her saying how do you know the text
• 35:53
  messages are fake? And she goes, they don't have
• 35:54
  any time stamps. OK, so El Reef said.
• 35:58
  Do you have any evidence they're fake?
• 35:59
  She goes no. OK, then she goes and says it
• 36:03
  doesn't work in person. OK, why not?
• 36:05
  Like genuinely what excuse do you have?
• 36:08
  Anyway, we'll get into that in a minute.
• 36:10
  Suffice to say she says I can't make it in person, but let's do
• 36:12
  a stream. So Blake responds, he says.
• 36:16
  Yesterday we made it clear that we would be scheduling a formal
• 36:19
  response to the allegations and accusations you have made.
• 36:21
  We've decided that response will be delivered during a live
• 36:24
  stream on December 15th. Thank you for your response
• 36:26
  letting us know you will not be joining the in person
• 36:28
  conversation. We will proceed without you, she
• 36:30
  replies. It has been decided by the
• 36:32
  public that the best response for this is for my team to live
• 36:36
  stream your live stream and provide commentary.
• 36:39
  Since you already picked our regular podcasting time.
• 36:42
  We look forward to providing live responses to your once and
• 36:44
  for all answers. And if we could just back it up
• 36:49
  for a minute, if you actually watch Blake Neff's statement on
• 36:52
  Wednesday, he said exactly that. He said we have to respond to
• 36:57
  these allegations because they won't let it go.
• 37:00
  He said we're going to issue a formal response.
• 37:02
  We're going to do it live in the studio later in the month.
• 37:05
  We'll announce it soon, he said. And Candace is welcome to join
• 37:08
  us. He didn't say we're going to
• 37:10
  call her up and have a live debate over Zoom.
• 37:13
  He said we are forced to respond to the allegations.
• 37:15
  We're going to do it here in the studio live later in the month.
• 37:18
  We're going to pick a time and she is welcome to join us.
• 37:20
  That's what he said. And then what she said is name
• 37:25
  the time, name the place. We don't need to plan it.
• 37:27
  We don't need lawyers. Let's do it tomorrow.
• 37:28
  Let's do it anytime. They announced on Twitter.
• 37:32
  We're doing our stream on the 15th.
• 37:34
  You're welcome to join us. She comes out and says I can't
• 37:36
  do that. What about it?
• 37:37
  Then she changes the deal. She insinuates there's funny
• 37:40
  business, even though there's nothing funny about that at all.
• 37:42
  That's what he said. That's what you said.
• 37:44
  Oh, this is really weird. This is really strange.
• 37:46
  Why'd you say to Midnight? That's what I'm doing.
• 37:47
  My show, your show is about this.
• 37:51
  It's about this. She goes and anyway, I can't do
• 37:53
  it in person. That's no good, no excuse given.
• 37:57
  You know, it'd be one thing. And by the way, I think you kind
• 37:59
  of owe it to your audience. It'd be one thing if she said.
• 38:01
  100% who? Even knows like.
• 38:04
  I don't like, I'm someone who's giving Candace shit.
• 38:06
  And then I was like, you know, we're going to back off.
• 38:08
  And it's like, maybe she might be on to something, maybe not,
• 38:12
  but maybe she is. And then she gets this
• 38:15
  opportunity. Like Nick said, it's a victory
• 38:17
  for her. They've responded.
• 38:19
  They've said come and debate this.
• 38:22
  And she's like, you know what? I'm just going to react to your
• 38:24
  debate or I'm just going to react to your response.
• 38:27
  It's like, what the fuck? Like people have been waiting
• 38:29
  months for this moment and you're blowing it up Candace for
• 38:32
  no reason. No, no, I'm going to my dad's
• 38:35
  funeral or something. Like if there was some excuse, I
• 38:39
  think we're owed that. But not even an excuse.
• 38:41
  Oh, that's no good for me. How about Zoom changes the deal
• 38:45
  and Blake comes out and says, well, you know, it's not really
• 38:47
  what we said. This is when we're doing it and
• 38:49
  you can come, and if you're not going to come, then OK, we'll
• 38:51
  proceed without you. She comes back and says, well,
• 38:53
  I'll live stream the live stream.
• 38:55
  And you go, so what's really the whole point of all this?
• 38:57
  This is what you wanted. This is transparency.
• 39:01
  You're so busy that you can't fly out and do it.
• 39:03
  And by the way, she has been talking about this
• 39:06
  assassination, milking it every day for three months.
• 39:10
  And it truly is milking at these like, cliffhangers, the
• 39:14
  clickbait. She's been withholding evidence
• 39:17
  the whole time. She's withholding lots of things
• 39:20
  that she says. Well, I'm going to wait to put
• 39:21
  this out. I'm going to wait to tell you
• 39:22
  everything Charlie told me in my dream and every week it's you
• 39:26
  got to tune in tomorrow. I just got a groundbreaking
• 39:28
  every week. It's a groundbreaking discovery
• 39:30
  and it never really is. She's been milking this for
• 39:33
  three months to her personal enrichment and self
• 39:36
  aggrandizement. She has gotten millions of
• 39:38
  subscribers and views, probably millions of dollars at the
• 39:41
  minimum hundreds of thousands of dollars in three months.
• 39:45
  Her podcast has skyrocketed to the top off of this and she
• 39:48
  claims that she is obsessively that she will not let it go.
• 39:52
  She is obsessed with getting to the bottom of this conspiracy
• 39:56
  because she sees herself as in the middle of a spiritual,
• 39:59
  cosmic, intercontinental political battle that involves
• 40:02
  of the French government, the Israeli government, the US
• 40:05
  government. Charlie is communing with her in
• 40:07
  dreams. She's having visions about it.
• 40:10
  So she's at the center of a global satanic conspiracy.
• 40:14
  It's entered into the spiritual realm.
• 40:16
  She has been appointed or anointed to do this because she
• 40:19
  was Charlie's friend and she's not like all these people that
• 40:22
  betrayed him. She's an Angel.
• 40:23
  Everyone else is 2 faced. She is perfect.
• 40:26
  So she's the only one that's going to do this.
• 40:28
  And that's why she's hell bent on doing this show and the song
• 40:30
  and dance every day to get the truth, to get to the bottom of
• 40:34
  it for her friend. OK, well, she's been alleging
• 40:39
  the Turning Point killed their own boss, that Erica might have
• 40:41
  killed her own husband and she's now the head of Turning Point,
• 40:43
  and that his closest friends killed him.
• 40:45
  She says Charlie told her that in the dream.
• 40:48
  Apparently she has evidence of this.
• 40:49
  She says, I'm going to name names.
• 40:51
  She says, don't play with me, I'm going to name names.
• 40:53
  I'm going to air you out. They say, all right, all right,
• 40:56
  already come to the studio. We'll explain it in person.
• 40:59
  Ask anything. She goes, oh, I'm busy that day.
• 41:01
  What could you possibly be busy with if everything you're saying
• 41:05
  is true? What could possibly be more
• 41:07
  important? Because in your own words, this
• 41:09
  is about your friendship with Charlie.
• 41:11
  This is about the relationship between France and the United
• 41:14
  States. They're making an attempt on
• 41:15
  your life. Allegedly, you're being told
• 41:19
  messages in dreams. God and and the dead are
• 41:22
  communicating to you in visions and in dreams to do this.
• 41:27
  What could be more important, honestly?
• 41:31
  And she says, well, I'm, I'm too busy to go in person, but I'm
• 41:34
  going to live stream it. So you're not busy on the actual
• 41:37
  day because you're going to live stream their live stream.
• 41:41
  You're going to live stream the live stream that you can't
• 41:43
  attend in person. So you're not that busy.
• 41:47
  So what is it that you have going on in the morning?
• 41:50
  It's like a three hour flight from Nashville to Phoenix.
• 41:52
  It's not a long flight. And what time are they doing it
• 41:55
  locally? They're doing it 2:00 PM local
• 41:59
  time, so you can't catch a flight at 11 AM on that morning
• 42:04
  and then fly back. It doesn't even make any sense.
• 42:08
  You can do your own stream in your own house.
• 42:09
  So you got something going on in the morning or the afternoon.
• 42:12
  Like you can squeeze in a stream about the stream, but you can't,
• 42:15
  you can't make a quick trip over there on a private jet, she
• 42:19
  said. Oh, I can't make it.
• 42:20
  So what could be more important then people say well.
• 42:22
  Yeah, and it's like when if anyone's like, oh, but a private
• 42:25
  jet costs a ton, Candace's husband is worth like 100
• 42:29
  something, $1,000,000, a private jet back and forth round trip,
• 42:34
  unless she gets like, you know, like Gulfstream or something.
• 42:38
  I mean, even if she gets a Gulfstream, like it's not going
• 42:40
  to cost her more than 3045 grand, which, yeah, that's a lot
• 42:46
  of money. But to her and her family and
• 42:49
  the amount of money she's made, you know, drip feeding this
• 42:52
  information, it's really not that much money.
• 42:55
  And this is exactly what she's been trying to get.
• 42:58
  And once they give it to her, she's like, you know what?
• 43:01
  No, it's fucking insane. Again, proving my point.
• 43:05
  Women in politics, we don't need them.
• 43:07
  Maybe she's worried about her life.
• 43:10
  She's worried about being killed.
• 43:12
  OK, I understand that. I was worried that Tucker
• 43:15
  Carlson might kill me when I did his show.
• 43:16
  But I went. You sort of have to go if you're
• 43:19
  going to be a martyr. That's part of it.
• 43:21
  You have to be courageous. You have to be brave.
• 43:23
  You're not courageous and brave for going and beating your chest
• 43:26
  and doing all these things. And then you get the opportunity
• 43:29
  that you have to act on. And you say, oh, I'm afraid, no.
• 43:32
  And you have to step up and face the music.
• 43:35
  I'll add, maybe you don't find that convincing.
• 43:39
  If she's so afraid for her life, why was she at Tucker Carlson's
• 43:41
  Christmas party in Nashville last night?
• 43:44
  Yep. Why was she a Dollywood on
• 43:46
  Thanksgiving? The theme park?
• 43:48
  So allegedly, the French government and the Israeli
• 43:51
  intelligence have put a hit out on you.
• 43:54
  They've paid millions of dollars to kill you, but you're walking
• 43:56
  around a theme park in your town.
• 43:59
  You're walking around, for those who don't know Dolly, what is a
• 44:00
  Dollywood? Dolly Land.
• 44:02
  It's like Dolly Parton's Disney World.
• 44:04
  You're walking around Disney World.
• 44:07
  You're walking around an amusement park in your hometown
• 44:09
  on the holiday weekend when allegedly everyone's trying to
• 44:12
  kill you. Then you go to a Christmas party
• 44:15
  with Tucker Carlson in the same city attended by hundreds of
• 44:18
  people, and people know you're going to be there with Tucker
• 44:20
  and all the base people in one room.
• 44:22
  But you can't go to Turning Point, where everybody knows
• 44:24
  you're going to be. And if anything happened to you,
• 44:26
  God forbid, they would immediately blame Turning Point.
• 44:28
  It doesn't even make any sense. So she says I'm going to live
• 44:32
  stream the live stream, and I'm going to Fact Check it in real
• 44:34
  time. Why?
• 44:36
  I think we all know why. She's totally full of shit.
• 44:40
  She doesn't care about the truth.
• 44:41
  If she did, she would go no matter the cost.
• 44:44
  If she were really courageous and a truth teller, she would
• 44:47
  bootstrap it and she would say, wish me luck.
• 44:50
  She would kiss her husband when she walks out the door and say
• 44:52
  it might not be coming back. And she would go and just fully
• 44:54
  send it and do it. Because if, if this is really,
• 44:58
  as she says, of cosmic, spiritual, geopolitical
• 45:01
  significance, you have to. And it's being offered up on a
• 45:04
  silver platter. You just have to, after talking
• 45:06
  all this shit, driving everybody against each other for the past
• 45:10
  three months, you got to do it. So clearly she doesn't believe
• 45:14
  what she's saying as far as the significance of all of this.
• 45:17
  Secondly, I don't think she believes what she's saying about
• 45:19
  Turning Point. Why does she not want to go in
• 45:21
  person? Because if she goes in person,
• 45:24
  she might get caught on the back foot.
• 45:26
  She might find out that her whole theory was wrong and that
• 45:29
  all of her facts are wrong, and she might not be able to explain
• 45:31
  herself. If she's at home, she's not
• 45:34
  under pressure. What's more, she's got her
• 45:36
  producer in her ear, like she did when I was on her show, like
• 45:39
  she does on all her shows. What's the producer's name?
• 45:41
  Skyler. She's going to have Skyler in
• 45:43
  her ear. So when she mispronounces
• 45:44
  something or she gets something wrong, she's going to say
• 45:46
  Skyler. Skyler, what was that?
• 45:48
  And Skyler can be on AI. Skyler could be on Twitter, and
• 45:51
  he can help her out. She can have air support.
• 45:53
  That's what this is about. And so she knows first of all,
• 45:57
  it's obviously she does not mean what she says.
• 46:00
  It is not that important to her. And she does not have the
• 46:02
  courage of her convictions. She knows she's going to melt at
• 46:04
  turning point. She needs backup.
• 46:06
  So then she's going to engage in yet another lie.
• 46:09
  And then she's going to gaslight the world and say, oh, I'm not a
• 46:13
  coward. I don't.
• 46:14
  It's not that I don't have the courage of my convictions.
• 46:16
  It's they are being weird. They're being weird.
• 46:20
  I'm not backing down. Gaslighting.
• 46:23
  They said we're going to do a stream.
• 46:24
  You said name the time and place.
• 46:26
  They did. Now you're saying you can't go
• 46:28
  in person, but you can live stream it.
• 46:31
  And we all know why that is. But then she'll turn around and
• 46:33
  say, Oh, I'm not a coward. I, I just, they're just being
• 46:36
  weird. They announced it at midnight.
• 46:37
  So that's why I can't go. You can't go because they
• 46:40
  announced it at midnight. You can't go because you're
• 46:42
  seeing this on Twitter and not in your inbox.
• 46:44
  I mean, what are you even talking about?
• 46:46
  And so this is where it's like, if you're still on this train, I
• 46:50
  honestly have no respect for you.
• 46:53
  If you're still on board after this, I don't know how anybody
• 46:55
  can can buy in. And, and like I said, I'm not
• 46:58
  saying this for rhetorical effect.
• 47:00
  I would love, I would actually love to see her talk to Turning
• 47:03
  Point because there's no, there's not a losing scenario
• 47:06
  there. If she goes to Turning Point,
• 47:09
  we're either going to find out that she was right all along.
• 47:12
  She's going to bring the receipts, she's going to name
• 47:13
  the names, she's going to put the screws in these people and
• 47:16
  she is going to blow the lid on everything.
• 47:17
  And you know what? If she's right, we want to know
• 47:20
  if she's right. I want to know that and I want
• 47:22
  to see it. I want to see it proved.
• 47:25
  And if she's right, I will issue a public apology on video and
• 47:29
  writing. I will say, you know what?
• 47:30
  I doubted you. I didn't get it.
• 47:32
  You were right all along, blah, blah, honest to God.
• 47:35
  And if she's wrong, then we'll know that too.
• 47:37
  We'll know that whatever the errors she made are, we will
• 47:41
  know what they are. And maybe it'll bring us closer
• 47:43
  to a bigger truth about what happened to Charlie Kirk.
• 47:45
  Whether it was Tyler Robinson or some other thing went on, or
• 47:47
  maybe Turning Point wasn't in on it.
• 47:49
  We'll know more. And I think everybody wants to
• 47:52
  see it. We want to see she's been
• 47:53
  building the energy for three months.
• 47:55
  This is supposed to be the climactic, like jury trial,
• 47:58
  courtroom drama moment. And she goes, I can't go, Well,
• 48:01
  you know what? I can't take you seriously then.
• 48:04
  This is one of those moments you just got to do it.
• 48:05
  Put up or shut up. You talk all this shit.
• 48:08
  She's on her show every day bobbing her head all cocky.
• 48:11
  I'm going to name names and you better not mess with me because
• 48:14
  I got the receipts and I'm going to name the names that doesn't
• 48:18
  fit. Yeah, she always goes, I'm going
• 48:20
  to name names and then she'll name one name and then she'll be
• 48:22
  like and then TuneIn tomorrow for the next name.
• 48:24
  It's like this isn't Bravo TV, this is politics.
• 48:29
  Give the fucking information the drip feeding.
• 48:33
  It's insane. With my timeline and you know,
• 48:36
  she's doing every day she's doing this bullshit.
• 48:38
  Finally they say, all right, you know what, fine, come to Turning
• 48:41
  Point. Let's just do a fucking live
• 48:42
  stream then ask us anything. She goes, oh, I can't do it that
• 48:45
  day. You know what then fuck you.
• 48:49
  Then you're just a malicious operative.
• 48:51
  That is pure malice. I like, there's just no excuse
• 48:54
  for that. And I'm hearing excuses.
• 48:57
  People say it's it's the holidays, she's got kids, she
• 48:59
  could get assassinated. That none of that adds up.
• 49:01
  That's all bullshit. And everybody knows that it's
• 49:03
  all a load of fucking bullshit. Everybody knows that if Ben
• 49:07
  Shapiro called me up and said let's debate, I would be on the
• 49:11
  next flight to debate Ben Shapiro.
• 49:14
  And it's not even comparable because I don't do a show every
• 49:17
  single day. Motherfucking Ben Shapiro for
• 49:18
  three months. I have a feud with him.
• 49:22
  But you know, if, what if Trump asked me to be on a stream, if
• 49:25
  Vance put me on a stream of Shapiro, you know, even if I
• 49:28
  didn't have complete confidence, I I would be nervous, but I
• 49:31
  would send it. I'd say I did it with Tucker.
• 49:34
  Tucker's people hit me up. They said come and do the show.
• 49:37
  I was very nervous. I thought he might kill me, but
• 49:41
  I said I can't. I literally told myself I can't
• 49:43
  back down. When I got the text, I was
• 49:45
  filled with apprehension and fear in the moment.
• 49:48
  But I said I can't back down now.
• 49:50
  I'll, I'll, I will either get destroyed or it'll be OK or
• 49:53
  it'll be a triumph. I said, but I can't, I can't
• 49:55
  back down. That would be far worse.
• 49:57
  So I said, yeah, fuck it, let's do it.
• 49:59
  They said we'll book your travel.
• 50:00
  I don't normally let people book my travel for security, but I
• 50:02
  said, if that's what you do, that's what you do, fine.
• 50:05
  And I let him book all my stuff. And I went and I was, I was
• 50:08
  nervous about it and I was uneasy the entire time, but I
• 50:13
  went and I, I, I steeled myself and did it.
• 50:16
  And that's what you have to do because I actually care if I go
• 50:20
  and I'm attacking talker and I'm saying, you know what man, bring
• 50:22
  me on the show then bring me on the show.
• 50:24
  You want a piece of me, let's do it.
• 50:25
  When he said let's do a show, I said name the time, name the
• 50:28
  place. They gave me dates.
• 50:29
  I picked one. We went out there, we did it.
• 50:31
  I think they hit me up on October 5th and I came out on
• 50:35
  October 20. That's also the other thing with
• 50:37
  Candace, like she said the same thing.
• 50:38
  Name a time, name a place they named a time and place.
• 50:41
  And instead of saying, hey, that day doesn't work for me, can we
• 50:43
  do it this day? Can we do it this day?
• 50:45
  She was like, you know what? I'm just going to do my own live
• 50:48
  stream reacting to yours. So like, did you actually want
• 50:51
  to talk to them or what the fuck was this entire thing May. 9th
• 50:56
  So I had a little bit more notice, but nevertheless I said
• 50:59
  fuck it, I'll go out there and I'll do it.
• 51:02
  Same thing with Piers Morgan. Piers Morgan hit me up the other
• 51:04
  day on Thanksgiving or around Thanksgiving, come and do the
• 51:07
  show. I said, how's next Monday?
• 51:10
  So I saw that. It's just like, how do people
• 51:14
  buy into this? Now?
• 51:14
  I'm really disappointed in that. I mean, I'm not, I can't be too
• 51:17
  disappointed because it's not a surprise.
• 51:19
  But it's like the audacity shocks even me to drive the
• 51:22
  country apart like this, drive people to insanity over this.
• 51:27
  Then you're given the opportunity to finally prove
• 51:29
  everybody wrong. And, and this is what she says
• 51:31
  on the show. She says, she says, I have
• 51:34
  receipts. I'm going to name names.
• 51:35
  She's saying Tyler Boyer is a child molester.
• 51:38
  And look, I, I've talked to Tyler Boyer and I don't know him
• 51:43
  really well. I'd, I wouldn't consider him a
• 51:45
  friend. I don't think he's molesting
• 51:47
  guys at turning point. And if you're going to claim
• 51:50
  that you need extraordinary evidence, actually you're going
• 51:53
  to need extraordinary evidence to prove that.
• 51:55
  And she says, I've got the receipts.
• 51:56
  She says Tyler Boyer is is messing with young guys at
• 51:59
  Turning Point events. You don't go and they invite you
• 52:03
  to explain that you don't go and face him.
• 52:05
  But what about the kids then? So, you know, who can take that
• 52:09
  seriously that that's just like that is malicious and harmful.
• 52:13
  To go and say a wife killed her husband, to go and say a guy is
• 52:17
  sexually abusive, to go and say Charlie was betrayed by every
• 52:20
  single one of his friends. And to tell everybody, I have
• 52:22
  the proof and I'm going to name names.
• 52:24
  They tell you, OK, bring it on. And you go, oh, I can't make it
• 52:26
  that day. Oh, oh, please.
• 52:29
  Candace. And I said this earlier this
• 52:31
  year. I, I have Candace Owens fatigue.
• 52:33
  It's a it's a species of black fatigue.
• 52:35
  You know, people have black fatigue.
• 52:37
  I have Candace Owens fatigue. We got black.
• 52:39
  Loudmouth fucking idiot, total loudmouth, fucking black female
• 52:44
  narcissist retarded idiot is what she is, and a fucking
• 52:47
  coward at that. Given this, I've so had enough.
• 52:52
  So I mean, I, I watch that show, I don't know how she's going to
• 52:55
  face, but you know what the audience is going to enable That
• 52:57
  audience reflexively makes excuses for that, but I've had
• 53:03
  it. I mean, I, I just can't stand it
• 53:04
  anymore. I have absolute Canis Owens
• 53:06
  fatigue. I think the country is so sick
• 53:07
  and tired of her. It's not even smart, it's just
• 53:09
  dumb. It's just dumb and, and
• 53:12
  malicious and, you know, and I'm sick of hearing about it.
• 53:16
  So I can't wait until one of these people sues her.
• 53:19
  She really deserves it. She's got it coming.
• 53:21
  And I, you know, I'm, I'm hesitant to say that because I'm
• 53:24
  close friends with Alex Jones and I hate to see Alex going
• 53:26
  through it, but at this point it's like, this is.
• 53:29
  And by the way, I'm going to say this also as somebody in the
• 53:32
  information space, this is hurting all of us.
• 53:35
  And I'm not saying, oh, it's violence or whatever, but I'm
• 53:37
  saying we're in a moment where we need truth tellers.
• 53:40
  We need people that are going to leave no stone unturned.
• 53:44
  We need people that are going to bring alternative narratives
• 53:47
  about what's happening in the world.
• 53:48
  And she is hurting us in two ways.
• 53:49
  One, she makes us all look crazy.
• 53:52
  How? Because there's all the
• 53:54
  difference in the world between looking at open secrets, the
• 53:57
  website, and looking at which billionaires are giving which
• 53:59
  politicians money. There's all the difference
• 54:01
  between looking at these patronage networks and who's
• 54:04
  being funded by who and which media companies are being funded
• 54:07
  by who. That's one thing.
• 54:08
  It's another thing to say I've had visions.
• 54:11
  I'm having visions and dreams of beekeepers and Egyptian
• 54:14
  aircraft. That's totally insane.
• 54:17
  And, and for her to concoct this conspiracy going back to the
• 54:19
  French Revolution and it's about product paper clip and MK Ultra
• 54:23
  and the Stanford Prison experiment, and it's about Egypt
• 54:26
  and France and Mccrone and that and Charlie Kirk and this one,
• 54:28
  you're just making all of us look totally insane.
• 54:30
  You're a kook. And by the way, this is a real
• 54:33
  strategy. Cass Sunstein created this.
• 54:37
  Cass Sunstein worked in the Obama administration.
• 54:40
  He wrote him, and I believe he's from Harvard.
• 54:41
  He's from one of the Ivy Leagues.
• 54:43
  He wrote a paper about this. He said the way to destroy
• 54:46
  conspiracy theorists, it's not to debate them, it's not to
• 54:48
  debunk them. It's to make them look dumb by
• 54:51
  flooding the zone with crazy stuff.
• 54:53
  And so for example, with 911, you've got very real evidence
• 54:56
  there. You've got the dancing Israelis,
• 54:58
  you've got the art students, you've got the text message that
• 55:01
  went out to all the Israelis. Like you've got some real things
• 55:03
  that warrant attention. But then you have people saying
• 55:06
  the planes were holograms. Then you have people saying
• 55:09
  saying things like that and they make you look crazy.
• 55:12
  That's 1/2 is in a media environment when everybody is
• 55:16
  clamoring for censorship and to suppress disinformation.
• 55:20
  What do you think this does to those arguments?
• 55:24
  Because 10 years ago, I would say I'm a free speech
• 55:26
  absolutist. How could you censor the truth?
• 55:28
  If you're censoring it, it means it's true.
• 55:31
  Here we are 10 years later, you've got this psycho.
• 55:33
  She had millions of views, and she's literally deputizing her
• 55:37
  followers to like, look at all the people in the audience,
• 55:40
  college students, like some kid in Turning Point.
• 55:43
  Find this person, find his name, interrogate like that.
• 55:45
  That is actually reckless. It is actually reckless.
• 55:49
  There's a responsible way to do that, and then there's an
• 55:51
  irresponsible way when you just start throwing things out
• 55:54
  without evidence, whipping your followers up into.
• 55:57
  It and I, I know some of the information she's saying is
• 56:00
  definitely bullshit because one of my viewers is one of the
• 56:04
  people who just like emailed her something crazy out of nowhere,
• 56:07
  something that wasn't true, something that they kind of just
• 56:10
  made-up, but they emailed it to her tip line.
• 56:12
  And then she was talking about it on her show, saying it was
• 56:15
  one of the real things they had to do with the Egyptian plains.
• 56:18
  I forget exactly what it was, but Candace is really just
• 56:22
  reading her emails and being like, oh shit, this person said
• 56:25
  this got to be true. And that's legitimately
• 56:28
  happening because one of my viewers has literally done that
• 56:31
  and he just made it up. So you're hilarious for doing
• 56:34
  that, by the way. To a frenzy that they're,
• 56:37
  they're fighting some satanic conspiracy and that's why they
• 56:39
  need to go and look at this private individual or this, this
• 56:43
  student that asked a question that's reckless.
• 56:46
  It's reckless and irresponsible in the way you're treating this
• 56:50
  process. It's not rigorous.
• 56:52
  It's not rigorous. There's no sense of, of
• 56:54
  responsibility for society. And it bolsters arguments that
• 57:00
  we shouldn't have complete free speech.
• 57:02
  It actually fortifies those arguments because how many times
• 57:05
  do you think this nonsense will be cited in a future
• 57:07
  congressional hearing about why we can't have free speech on
• 57:09
  YouTube or why we can't have free speech on Twitter?
• 57:13
  It hurts all of us. And, and even with regard to the
• 57:16
  Jewish conspiracy, it doesn't help that we're trying to
• 57:20
  articulate a very clear idea of what's going on, which is that
• 57:23
  you have something like a state within a state.
• 57:26
  Jews are a transnational nation. They live across borders, and
• 57:30
  they are represented by something like a state.
• 57:33
  The organized jewelry is like a government of all the Jews in
• 57:36
  the world. And so the way they operate in
• 57:38
  the United States and Israel, it's like a state within a
• 57:39
  state. It'd be like if China was able
• 57:43
  to call on with authority all the Chinese people in America.
• 57:46
  You would say, well, maybe not every Chinese person will heed
• 57:48
  the call, but if the powerful ones do, it might be a problem.
• 57:50
  Like we're trying to articulate something, I think very
• 57:53
  supportable like that. And she comes in and says, no,
• 57:55
  it's the Stanford Prison Experiment and MK Ultra and
• 57:57
  Project Paper Clip and the Francas and the French
• 57:59
  Revolution. And you're like, yeah, you're
• 58:02
  making us look crazy. You're making us look like
• 58:03
  idiots. So I continue to believe this is
• 58:07
  like this little tear that she's been on.
• 58:08
  It has been one of the most damaging things to our side.
• 58:13
  People are always asking me, how do you feel about your
• 58:15
  generational run? How do you feel that everyone's
• 58:17
  red pill now? I think I'm always waiting for
• 58:19
  the next shoe to drop. That's how I feel.
• 58:22
  And I'm always worried that it's going to go too far.
• 58:24
  People are going to get carried away, and we're going to invite
• 58:27
  a pendulum swing back in the other direction.
• 58:28
  And I think that's what she's doing.
• 58:31
  And it's not good. So.
• 58:33
  So I saw this today. I'm like, it's just
• 58:35
  unbelievable. Earlier in the year, I said my
• 58:36
  only response to Candace is just like, OK, you are so tiresome.
• 58:40
  I just look at her nonsense and I say, OK, Candace.
• 58:44
  She tells them anytime, any place they go, OK, here's the
• 58:47
  time and place she goes, well, that's not good for me.
• 58:49
  And that's weird that you said it.
• 58:50
  At midnight, you go. OK, Candace, really.
• 58:54
  The French are trying to kill me.
• 58:55
  Really. Did you tell law enforcement?
• 58:57
  Well, I didn't submit it in any formal way.
• 58:59
  I didn't submit it in any of the formal channels.
• 59:01
  I just sent it to a buddy of mine.
• 59:02
  Oh, OK, Candace, I have all the receipts.
• 59:06
  I'm going to name names. They invited you out there.
• 59:07
  You're not going to go. OK.
• 59:10
  Such a ridiculous person. And, and whatever she's she is
• 59:13
  what she is. At the minimum, she's profiting
• 59:15
  from it, which really pathetic are the fans, which really
• 59:18
  pathetic are the cultists. And no matter what, no matter
• 59:21
  how off she is, no matter how wrong she is, it's like a
• 59:24
  religious thing. It's like a weird, it's almost
• 59:27
  like a weird religious, charismatic thing.
• 59:29
  People say that about me, but I don't think that's true because
• 59:32
  I think I'm self deprecating and I think that, look, I get
• 59:35
  attacked all the time and I think I can admit when I'm wrong
• 59:38
  and I think that I have a pretty rigorous process.
• 59:40
  This is like a weird charismatic religious thing.
• 59:43
  It's almost strikes me as like a weird Protestant, like religious
• 59:46
  guru thing. The way that she's fashioning
• 59:48
  herself is almost like a spiritual figure.
• 59:51
  It reminds me of what it must have been like in the Middle
• 59:53
  Ages. Somebody says, you know, oh, I
• 59:56
  I've got a private revelation or something like that and start to
• 59:59
  build up a following in like a village of medieval peasants.
• 1:00:01
  That's what it feels like. And it's embarrassing.
• 1:00:04
  It's fucking embarrassing. It's funny not.
• 1:00:07
  Cool. But anyway, that's that.
• 1:00:08
  We're going to move on. We're going to talk about
• 1:00:09
  Venezuela. That was awesome.
• 1:00:12
  That was we're we're going to watch the Venezuela part as
• 1:00:14
  well. I just want to go over what we
• 1:00:17
  just this is the first time I'm watching this as well.
• 1:00:19
  I've just seen a couple 5 minute clips and that's about it.
• 1:00:22
  But yeah, I mean, even Candace this morning called Nick a fed
• 1:00:27
  on X Candace is Candace is losing this situation right now.
• 1:00:32
  I mean, Candace every single day for the last few months has
• 1:00:36
  talked about Charlie Kirk's assassination.
• 1:00:38
  She has openly blamed the Turning Point USA employees,
• 1:00:42
  blame multiple foreign nations, and even possibly Erica Kirk,
• 1:00:46
  the widowed wife of Charlie Kirk.
• 1:00:48
  And I don't think Erica should be the CEO of Turning Point, but
• 1:00:52
  when she's blaming the entire Turning Point administration,
• 1:00:54
  including Erica Kirk for it, Candace pretty much has an
• 1:00:58
  obligation to go and debate them, answer the questions when
• 1:01:01
  they extend the invite. And Candace not only saying no,
• 1:01:05
  but not even pitching like an an alternative date just shows that
• 1:01:10
  either Candace is a complete fucking coward or Candace has
• 1:01:14
  just been lying this entire time, drip feeding information
• 1:01:17
  like a woman, treating politics like a Bravo TV show.
• 1:01:22
  And Nick's not wrong when he's like, I have Candace fatigue at
• 1:01:24
  this point because it's real. I mean, it's very real and it
• 1:01:27
  almost is. It's pretty insane that people
• 1:01:31
  are not opening up their eyes to this because I like I said in
• 1:01:34
  the beginning, I was somebody who was like, we're going to
• 1:01:35
  support Candace where, you know, we're not going to counter
• 1:01:38
  signal her. And it's gotten to the point
• 1:01:40
  where she is just outright refusing to acknowledge the
• 1:01:45
  debate or do the debate when this is what she has been
• 1:01:49
  working for. She's been saying for three
• 1:01:51
  months. Why won't you guys talk to me?
• 1:01:52
  Why won't you talk to me? I've asked them this question.
• 1:01:54
  I'm waiting for them to answer this question.
• 1:01:56
  I reached out to them and it's like, OK, they reached out to
• 1:01:59
  you. They said come on the show live
• 1:02:02
  so it won't be edited. And she's like, you know what?
• 1:02:04
  No, like, what the fuck? It's insane.
• 1:02:08
  We're going to keep going with the show, though.
• 1:02:12
  That's very harmful. We're going to get into the
• 1:02:15
  situation unfolding in the Caribbean.
• 1:02:22
  Let's see. And we've been trying to get
• 1:02:25
  into this for the past few days, but I don't know, I feel like
• 1:02:28
  there's nothing that exciting to say about it.
• 1:02:31
  But we'll get into it tonight. There's been a lot of new
• 1:02:33
  developments on Venezuela, some of them from last week, some of
• 1:02:37
  them from this week. And as you know, we're on a war
• 1:02:39
  footing with Venezuela. It's very obvious the Trump
• 1:02:42
  administration has been fabricating A pretext for this
• 1:02:44
  war throughout the entire year. It's been very clear they have
• 1:02:48
  been accusing Venezuela of engaging in narco terrorism.
• 1:02:51
  Narco terrorism? They say that Venezuela is
• 1:02:54
  trafficking fentanyl and cocaine and other drugs into the United
• 1:02:57
  States. They say that the Venezuelan
• 1:02:59
  government in Caracas is actually operating the cartels
• 1:03:02
  that are doing this. So they say that Trende Aragua
• 1:03:05
  and the Cult of the Sun, these are the two big Venezuelan
• 1:03:08
  cartels. And they say that these cartels
• 1:03:11
  are controlled by the Venezuelan state.
• 1:03:13
  They say it's a narco state. Venezuelan's government gets
• 1:03:16
  revenue from the drug trade and that makes them a criminal
• 1:03:20
  regime. And this is the very sloppy and
• 1:03:23
  ad hoc and basically ridiculous justification for a war.
• 1:03:26
  And how does that work? Well, if they could say that
• 1:03:30
  Venezuela is engaging in terrorism, then they can make
• 1:03:34
  the case they're going to war with Venezuela as part of the
• 1:03:37
  War on Terror. That's a big part of it.
• 1:03:40
  The other thing, if they could say that it's a war about drug
• 1:03:43
  trafficking, then they can use the Coast Guard and the Navy to
• 1:03:47
  interdict what they claim to be drug trafficking vessels.
• 1:03:51
  And under that pretext, they can say we're going to bring all
• 1:03:53
  this military power into the Caribbean.
• 1:03:55
  We're going to bring F35 fighter jets and an aircraft carrier to
• 1:03:59
  destroy like cigarette boats or what do they call them, cigar
• 1:04:01
  boats? You're bringing an aircraft
• 1:04:04
  carrier strike group, an F35 fighter jets, the most advanced
• 1:04:07
  fighters in the world to blow up like 2 guys on a dinghy with
• 1:04:10
  some cocaine. It's a pretext to build up the
• 1:04:14
  military posture and to start provoking and antagonizing
• 1:04:17
  Venezuela. Ironically, it's Washington
• 1:04:20
  that's engaging in terrorism, and I know that's a loaded term,
• 1:04:23
  but by definition that's what it is.
• 1:04:25
  This is a strategy to terrorize Venezuela and the Venezuelan
• 1:04:28
  regime. They're going to put this
• 1:04:30
  overwhelming massive force presence off the coast of
• 1:04:33
  Venezuela and they're going to use it.
• 1:04:35
  They're going to bomb these little boats.
• 1:04:36
  They're going to fly bombers and fighter jets off the coast of
• 1:04:39
  Venezuela. And the purpose is to incite
• 1:04:43
  fear. It is to make the Venezuelan
• 1:04:45
  military and political apparatus believe that a military strike
• 1:04:49
  is imminent. And the message is we're here,
• 1:04:52
  and if we can bomb these boats, we can bomb you.
• 1:04:54
  And there's nothing you could do about it.
• 1:04:55
  We can bomb your airfields, your airports.
• 1:04:57
  We could bomb your governmental headquarters, military
• 1:05:00
  headquarters. We can touch you and you can't
• 1:05:02
  do anything. You're completely vulnerable.
• 1:05:04
  So that is what has been happening throughout the year is
• 1:05:06
  that slowly and steadily you have had simultaneous the naval
• 1:05:10
  force posture increasing in the Caribbean such that now we have
• 1:05:14
  25% of the active Navy deployed there.
• 1:05:16
  So I believe it's 10 naval vessels there, 10,000 U.S.
• 1:05:20
  soldiers, squadrons of F35 fighter jets, massive troop
• 1:05:23
  presence there. At the same time, you also have
• 1:05:26
  this justification, you have this flimsy justification for
• 1:05:30
  the war where they say, well, Venezuela is engaging in the
• 1:05:34
  drug trade. And by the way, that's not even
• 1:05:37
  true. Most of the cocaine that comes
• 1:05:39
  into the United States comes from Colombian and Mexican
• 1:05:42
  cartels. The fentanyl too, the drugs come
• 1:05:44
  from Mexico and Colombia for the most part, not really Venezuela.
• 1:05:48
  Venezuela is not one of the major players in the fentanyl in
• 1:05:51
  the manufacturer or the distribution of fentanyl in the
• 1:05:54
  United States or cocaine. It's not that they don't do it
• 1:05:56
  at all, but they're not one of the major countries doing it.
• 1:05:59
  And even the existence of of one of these cartels, the cult of
• 1:06:02
  the Sun, a lot of people say that's not even real.
• 1:06:05
  And the ties between the government and these cartels is
• 1:06:07
  tenuous. But again, the argument goes,
• 1:06:10
  here's the chain of reasoning. If the Venezuelan regime is
• 1:06:13
  funded by and in bed with or managing the cartels, and if the
• 1:06:17
  cartels are smuggling drugs into the United States, and if those
• 1:06:21
  drugs are killing Americans, then we could argue that's a
• 1:06:24
  form of terrorism for Americans to die from.
• 1:06:27
  Fentanyl is a form of terrorism because someone's dying.
• 1:06:30
  We can run that up the flagpole. That's Nicolas Maduro's fault.
• 1:06:34
  He's the chief terrorist. So if we go off their coast and
• 1:06:38
  bomb all their vessels and maybe eventually even bomb their
• 1:06:40
  government, well, that's part of the global War on Terror.
• 1:06:43
  We're defending ourselves at self-defense.
• 1:06:46
  And of course, it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous because the real
• 1:06:49
  reason that Trump is doing this, we have to speak in terms of the
• 1:06:53
  players involved. the United States does nothing.
• 1:06:56
  Decision makers in government do things.
• 1:06:59
  And the decision makers in government that are relevant
• 1:07:00
  here are Donald Trump, the commander in chief, and Marco
• 1:07:03
  Rubio, the Secretary of State. And since the withdrawal of Mike
• 1:07:08
  Waltz, since he was dismissed, Rubio is also the national
• 1:07:11
  security advisor. So he heads up the National
• 1:07:13
  Security Council. That makes Rubio a very powerful
• 1:07:16
  Secretary of State. He has all the responsibilities
• 1:07:19
  and the powers of the chief diplomatic officer, but he also
• 1:07:22
  has all the intelligence and power of the national security
• 1:07:25
  advisor. That's all part of his
• 1:07:26
  portfolio. And if you know anything about
• 1:07:29
  Rubio, you know that he comes from South Florida, he's Cuban.
• 1:07:32
  His parents fled. Now everyone thinks that his
• 1:07:35
  parents fled the Cuban Revolution, the Communists.
• 1:07:38
  In reality, his parents fled the previous regime, the US puppet
• 1:07:41
  government. So he said, I hate communism.
• 1:07:44
  My parents fled communism. No, they, I believe they fled
• 1:07:46
  the previous regime. But anyway, Rubio's parents fled
• 1:07:50
  Cuba because of the turbulence there in the 50s and 60s.
• 1:07:54
  They settled in Florida where there's a thriving Cuban
• 1:07:56
  American community. And Rubio, ever since he was a
• 1:07:59
  kid, has this axe to grind against Castro and Cuba and
• 1:08:03
  communism hates Cuba. Well, more specifically, hates
• 1:08:06
  the communist government of Cuba, hates Castro, hates the
• 1:08:09
  regime, and you might say, well, what does Cuba have to do with
• 1:08:12
  Venezuela? Well, Venezuela is a socialist
• 1:08:14
  state also. And when Hugo Chavez came to
• 1:08:17
  power in Venezuela in 99, when they had their Bolivarian
• 1:08:20
  Revolution some years later, they became a very critical
• 1:08:22
  strategic ally of Cuba. And they're engaged in a very
• 1:08:25
  important relationship where Venezuela gives Cuba oil and
• 1:08:28
  Cuba gives them doctors. They have intelligence sharing.
• 1:08:31
  Cuban intelligence is spying on Venezuela's military class to
• 1:08:35
  make sure that they don't mutiny against Nicolas Maduro.
• 1:08:37
  So they rely on each other heavily.
• 1:08:39
  And Rubio has a very expansive view of this new foreign policy
• 1:08:44
  in the Caribbean. He believes that if we stick it
• 1:08:47
  to Maduro, Maduro is a most powerful socialist, you could
• 1:08:51
  say revisionist, rogue power in the Western Hemisphere, in the
• 1:08:54
  Caribbean. Out of all of them, Bolivia,
• 1:08:56
  Nicaragua, Cuba, Venezuela's probably the richest and most
• 1:08:59
  powerful as oil, gold and close contacts, relationships with
• 1:09:03
  Russia, China, Iran. Rubio believes that if we topple
• 1:09:06
  Maduro in Caracas, then there's going to be Domino's Falling In
• 1:09:11
  Reverse. You take out Maduro and then
• 1:09:13
  maybe you can roll up the communist regime in Cuba and
• 1:09:16
  maybe then you can roll up the communist regime in Nicaragua.
• 1:09:19
  What happened to Trump being the president of no new wars Like it
• 1:09:23
  it that shit went out the window immediately.
• 1:09:26
  Immediately it went out the war. He's like more money to Israel,
• 1:09:28
  more money to Ukraine, regime change, Venezuela.
• 1:09:31
  It's like, what the fuck is going on here?
• 1:09:34
  And this would be a victory for him as a Cuban, as an anti
• 1:09:38
  communist, but also it'd be a big victory for him going into
• 1:09:40
  2028. He could take credit and say,
• 1:09:43
  I'm a Reaganesque figure. I'm a Reaganesque diplomat.
• 1:09:46
  I defeated communism in the Western Hemisphere, in the
• 1:09:48
  Caribbean. And to tell you the truth, if
• 1:09:51
  that was achievable, that would be impressive.
• 1:09:53
  That would be notable. But that's a big if.
• 1:09:56
  And the reason he is driven to do this is because he is an anti
• 1:09:59
  communist Cuban. Just like how Ben Shapiro wants
• 1:10:02
  us to die for Israel against Iran, Rubio wants us to die for
• 1:10:06
  Cuba, apparently against Venezuela.
• 1:10:08
  This is part of his like, Cuban thing.
• 1:10:11
  And I would add, this is Contra other people in the
• 1:10:14
  administration. Rick Grinnell, who is one of
• 1:10:16
  Trump's envoys, has been negotiating with the government
• 1:10:20
  in Venezuela and at one point during the year had actually
• 1:10:22
  reached a deal with Maduro. And the deal would look
• 1:10:24
  something like this over a period of time.
• 1:10:27
  Maduro would eventually step down and transition to a new
• 1:10:29
  government. In the meantime, the United
• 1:10:32
  States would get a piece of all new oil, all new gold.
• 1:10:35
  We would get control over their current oil and gold and other
• 1:10:38
  critical minerals, and Venezuela would realign themselves away
• 1:10:41
  from Beijing and towards Washington.
• 1:10:43
  That sounds like a perfect deal. That's a great deal.
• 1:10:47
  And by the way, I think that would only make common sense
• 1:10:50
  because the rest of South America is doing the same thing.
• 1:10:54
  Lula in Brazil has had a rapprochement with Trump.
• 1:10:56
  Argentina canceled their accession to bricks and is close
• 1:10:59
  with Trump. Bolivia just elected a non left
• 1:11:02
  president that wants to realign with the United States in
• 1:11:05
  Ecuador and Peru. They're doing the same thing in
• 1:11:07
  El Salvador. And in those other regimes where
• 1:11:10
  they're resistant to Trump, Trump is putting the screws in
• 1:11:12
  them, like in Colombia, in Panama.
• 1:11:15
  So for Maduro to say that, I mean, it's kind of a good deal.
• 1:11:18
  It means that if he's true to his word, we get Venezuela and
• 1:11:21
  we get a managed transition. We don't get a tumultuous regime
• 1:11:25
  change where the government collapses and it's guerrilla
• 1:11:28
  warfare and there's another exodus of 8 million Venezuelans.
• 1:11:32
  We get some kind of control and it's managed and it's overtime.
• 1:11:35
  I mean, that sounds like a good deal, but there's intense
• 1:11:37
  disagreement inside the administration over the approach
• 1:11:40
  here. Rick Grinnell wants the deal so
• 1:11:42
  that we can focus on China. We don't have to invade and do
• 1:11:44
  regime change. And then we.
• 1:11:46
  This is just me speculating. It just popped in my head.
• 1:11:48
  But I've been seeing a lot of reports recently of people
• 1:11:52
  saying, like, Trump's unhappy with certain people in his
• 1:11:54
  cabinet, He's looking to replace them.
• 1:11:56
  And that's got to be kind of obvious because it's been an
• 1:11:59
  abysmal failure in his cabinet, his approval ratings in the
• 1:12:02
  ship. But I'm curious if some of it
• 1:12:04
  has to do with some of the pushback he's getting, because
• 1:12:07
  it does seem like Trump is the one pushing this regime change
• 1:12:11
  towards Venezuela. And I'm curious if people
• 1:12:13
  resisting within the cabinet or people he's looking at
• 1:12:16
  replacing. It's just speculation.
• 1:12:19
  I just thought of that in my head right now.
• 1:12:21
  Break it, we buy it. We're in there forever.
• 1:12:23
  Rick Grinnell says let's make a deal that's a model for other
• 1:12:26
  countries and then let's go somewhere else.
• 1:12:28
  Rubio says no, we're we're hanging out in the Caribbean.
• 1:12:31
  We're going to knock down Maduro hard, then we're going to knock
• 1:12:34
  down Cuba, then we're going to knock down Nicaragua.
• 1:12:37
  So if you thought we're biting off more than we could chew for
• 1:12:40
  Venezuela, you don't even know the half of it.
• 1:12:42
  It's about so much more. They don't.
• 1:12:44
  They don't even want to just stop at Venezuela.
• 1:12:46
  They want to go further. And if this sounds familiar,
• 1:12:50
  it's because it is. This is the same kind of
• 1:12:51
  thinking behind the war in Iraq, which is that if we go and
• 1:12:55
  invade Iraq and topple that government, well then there
• 1:12:58
  would be a domino effect. That was the idea.
• 1:13:01
  We didn't go into Iraq simply to destroy the WMD that allegedly
• 1:13:05
  was there. It wasn't simply because Saddam
• 1:13:07
  was a pariah. There was an idea that if we
• 1:13:11
  toppled Saddam, we could plant the seed of democratic
• 1:13:14
  liberalism, liberal, you know, whatever you want to call it,
• 1:13:17
  liberal capitalism. We were going to plant the flag
• 1:13:19
  of freedom in Iraq, and then Syria and Iran and the other
• 1:13:23
  countries would follow and the Middle East would become a
• 1:13:26
  liberal place and pursuant to democratic peace theory, would
• 1:13:29
  no longer be a problem for Europe or the United States.
• 1:13:32
  That was the idea. And look at how that turned out.
• 1:13:36
  We went into Iraq. Did that work?
• 1:13:38
  It didn't even work there. We didn't even get a democracy
• 1:13:40
  there. We went there and then it
• 1:13:43
  started a religious civil war. And then we're getting blown to
• 1:13:46
  smithereens in irregular guerrilla warfare for 10 years.
• 1:13:50
  And then we get ISIS and then it blows up.
• 1:13:51
  And then the same thing happens. And the only thing that spread
• 1:13:54
  was misery. And now al Qaeda run Syria and
• 1:13:56
  Hezbollah runs Iraq. So you're worse off actually.
• 1:14:00
  What are? The that's what I talk about all
• 1:14:02
  the time. I mean, literally everything we
• 1:14:04
  did in the Middle East has backfired and people are like,
• 1:14:06
  Nope, but supporting Israel is a good thing.
• 1:14:08
  It's like you're a fucking idiot.
• 1:14:12
  Supporting Israel and every other fucking thing we've done
• 1:14:15
  in the Middle East has been a bad idea there.
• 1:14:17
  There has not been a good thing we've done in the Middle East.
• 1:14:20
  It's just it's we need to stay the fuck away from there.
• 1:14:23
  Nothing good comes out of the Middle East.
• 1:14:25
  The odds that in Venezuela it's going to be any different, and
• 1:14:27
  it's not apples to apples. Venezuela is very different than
• 1:14:29
  Iraq. It's closer to home, militarily
• 1:14:32
  weaker, no WMDS. They're not Muslim.
• 1:14:37
  On some level, it's more justifiable because it's within
• 1:14:40
  our legitimate sphere of influence.
• 1:14:41
  And therefore, you could argue it's about national security.
• 1:14:44
  But but still, all of those concerns are still valid here.
• 1:14:47
  Which is to say, you go to war in Venezuela and topple the
• 1:14:50
  government, OK, What comes on the next day?
• 1:14:53
  You're going to get Machado, and is she going to be able to take
• 1:14:56
  control of the apparatus? Are all of Maduro's officers
• 1:14:59
  going to go away? Are they going to support her?
• 1:15:01
  There's no evidence that that's the case.
• 1:15:02
  There's no evidence that this new regime they want to build
• 1:15:05
  has any legitimacy. And forget about legitimacy with
• 1:15:08
  the people. What about with the security
• 1:15:09
  state? There's no evidence that that
• 1:15:11
  has happened. And what's more, the strategy
• 1:15:13
  for Cuba and Venezuela is that they know they can't control
• 1:15:16
  their airspace. They know they can't control the
• 1:15:18
  coast. Their strategy in the event of
• 1:15:21
  war is to then blend into the population and launch guerrilla
• 1:15:24
  warfare. And this isn't like Panama in
• 1:15:26
  1989. This is a big country with a lot
• 1:15:28
  of cities, a lot of densely populated cities, a dispersed
• 1:15:31
  population with a difficult terrain.
• 1:15:33
  It's a lot of jungle, 29 million people, 30 million people.
• 1:15:38
  So the idea you're going to go in there with 10,020 thousand
• 1:15:41
  troops, knock over the government and then it's going
• 1:15:44
  to be smooth sailing. There's no evidence that it's
• 1:15:46
  going to be that way. I don't feel good about that.
• 1:15:48
  And then they want to go further.
• 1:15:49
  They want to go and attack other countries.
• 1:15:52
  Now, these are the new developments.
• 1:15:54
  The new developments in the story are that Trump is now
• 1:15:56
  talking about striking targets on the ground.
• 1:15:59
  He had a phone call with Maduro and allegedly there was a
• 1:16:01
  proffer there. So Trump said that if Maduro
• 1:16:04
  steps down immediately, then he can escape.
• 1:16:08
  But then that's it. Like he can't get immunity.
• 1:16:11
  He can't get, you know, there's there's no clemency involved in
• 1:16:13
  that. Trump is saying you can flee and
• 1:16:15
  like, we won't kill you. He says, but otherwise we're
• 1:16:17
  going to kill you. And Maduro says, no, I, I want
• 1:16:20
  to stick around for a couple of years or I want immunity or I, I
• 1:16:22
  want, I want to be able to get safe passage.
• 1:16:26
  Those are the results of the phone call.
• 1:16:27
  And this is a story from The New York Times that says, quote,
• 1:16:30
  President Trump warned airlines and pilots on Saturday that the
• 1:16:33
  airspace near Venezuela was closed.
• 1:16:35
  In a post on social media, he wrote all airlines, pilots, drug
• 1:16:39
  dealers and human traffickers. He said this is addressed to
• 1:16:44
  them. The airspace is closed in its
• 1:16:46
  entirety. He did not go into further
• 1:16:48
  detail in his post, but it came after he warned on Thursday
• 1:16:50
  night that the United States could very soon expand its
• 1:16:52
  attacks on boats thought to be carrying drugs in the waters off
• 1:16:55
  Venezuela to targets inside the country itself. the US boat
• 1:16:58
  strikes have killed more than 80 people since early September.
• 1:17:01
  Earlier this year, a handful of foreign carriers had canceled
• 1:17:03
  flights to Venezuela after the Federal Aviation Administration
• 1:17:06
  issued a safety warning about the country. the United States
• 1:17:09
  has built up a substantial military presence in the
• 1:17:11
  Caribbean to put pressure on Venezuela.
• 1:17:14
  On Friday, the New York Times reported Mr. Trump had spoken by
• 1:17:16
  phone with Nicolas Maduro. The conversation took place late
• 1:17:20
  in the week and included a discussion about a possible
• 1:17:22
  meeting in the United States between the two leaders,
• 1:17:24
  although there are no plans at the moment for such a meeting.
• 1:17:27
  The phone call between Mr. Trump and Maduro, which included
• 1:17:29
  Secretary of State Marco Rubio, came days before the State
• 1:17:32
  Department officially designated Maduro as the leader of what the
• 1:17:35
  administration considers a drug cartel that is also a foreign
• 1:17:38
  terrorist organization, Cartel de Los Solace, the Cartel of the
• 1:17:41
  Suns. And so this is where I think we
• 1:17:46
  are in the war to sort of bring it up to speed to today.
• 1:17:50
  So you have this deployment off the coast, and let's talk about
• 1:17:54
  what's actually there. You got a carrier, you've got
• 1:17:57
  about a dozen naval vessels, 10,000 troops, F30 fives.
• 1:18:01
  This is not an invasion force. Venezuela's got 30 million
• 1:18:05
  people. Like I said, it's a big country,
• 1:18:07
  lots of cities. A comparable example might be
• 1:18:11
  Panama. The United States invaded Panama
• 1:18:13
  in December 1989 with about 20,000 soldiers.
• 1:18:17
  Population fraction of the size, the amount of territory,
• 1:18:20
  fraction of the size. They have like 1 city, all the
• 1:18:22
  people are there. This is a totally different ball
• 1:18:25
  game and you always have to compare the specification size
• 1:18:28
  of the population, the amount of major cities and where there
• 1:18:30
  might be strategic targets, the type of terrain.
• 1:18:34
  And so if you had 20,000 soldiers to liberate Panama and
• 1:18:37
  the fighting lasted about a week, I don't think 10,000 can
• 1:18:40
  liberate Venezuela. That doesn't look to me like an
• 1:18:42
  invasion force. So what is what is this force
• 1:18:46
  posture for? It is to control the air.
• 1:18:49
  It is to do these effects based warfare tactics, which is to say
• 1:18:53
  they're bringing in sea power and air power, huge guns and
• 1:18:56
  missiles, sea to ground missiles as well as guns and the
• 1:19:01
  aircraft. Because what they intend on
• 1:19:03
  doing probably is taking control the airports, taking control the
• 1:19:06
  runways, the airstrips, military, commercial airports,
• 1:19:09
  and then they control the airspace, probably bombing
• 1:19:11
  strategic targets, bombing military bases, other strategic
• 1:19:15
  targets, whether that's resources or ports or whatever.
• 1:19:18
  They're going to drop payload, maybe decapitation strike.
• 1:19:21
  They're going to kill the leadership, top brass in the
• 1:19:23
  military. And then with their small force,
• 1:19:25
  they're going to come in to establish law and order.
• 1:19:28
  Maybe special forces or the 10,000 troops, maybe more than
• 1:19:31
  that will deploy to go and find Maduro, find the other top
• 1:19:35
  lieutenants, make sure they're accounted for and either killed
• 1:19:37
  or captured. And then they're going to
• 1:19:38
  maintain law and order in the anarchy and oversee the
• 1:19:40
  transition. That's probably what that forces
• 1:19:42
  there to do. And if you've been paying
• 1:19:45
  attention over. The Nick is so much better at
• 1:19:47
  breaking this down than literally anybody else.
• 1:19:50
  I mean, I challenge anybody to find anyone else in the media
• 1:19:53
  right now who is able to break down any situation as well as
• 1:19:57
  Nick Ken. I mean, Nick, especially
• 1:20:00
  geopolitical situations give such a great analysis and he's
• 1:20:04
  so good at speaking. It's so impressive.
• 1:20:08
  The past 10 years, Trump's strategy, it's brinksmanship.
• 1:20:13
  It's brinksmanship and it's maximum pressure.
• 1:20:15
  And this is what we've seen in North Korea and Syria and Iran
• 1:20:17
  and Russia. And this is what we've seen in
• 1:20:18
  Venezuela also, which is you use a combination of soft power and
• 1:20:22
  gunboat diplomacy to increase pressure to the maximum level.
• 1:20:26
  And So what does that mean? For example, with North Korea,
• 1:20:30
  we already had more sanctions than then.
• 1:20:33
  Then we could even levy on North Korea.
• 1:20:35
  There weren't any more sanctions we could apply.
• 1:20:37
  How do we hurt them economically?
• 1:20:38
  We went to Beijing, their only trading partner, their biggest
• 1:20:40
  trading partner, and we said, China, if you want to work with
• 1:20:43
  us, you need to help us denuclearize the Korean
• 1:20:45
  Peninsula. You need to put the screws in
• 1:20:46
  North Korea. And so China brought economic
• 1:20:49
  pain to bear on North Korea in a way that we couldn't do it
• 1:20:51
  unilaterally. So there's an economic pressure.
• 1:20:54
  Then Trump put 2 carrier strike groups off the coast of Korea
• 1:20:58
  and said my button is bigger and mine works and you're going to
• 1:21:01
  see fire and fury and the storm is coming.
• 1:21:04
  And the idea was to create. This is called brinksmanship.
• 1:21:06
  It's bringing them to the brink of war using maximum pressure,
• 1:21:10
  using that soft power, economic, diplomatic, psychological
• 1:21:14
  tactics as well as gunboat diplomacy.
• 1:21:16
  Bringing the visible presence of US force to bear on these
• 1:21:20
  countries, demonstrating it to them, and then offering them a
• 1:21:23
  choice. We can meet and have a detente.
• 1:21:26
  We can normalize relations, which they did with North Korea
• 1:21:28
  and discuss, or we can go to war.
• 1:21:30
  But I don't think that Trump actually wants all of these
• 1:21:32
  regime change wars. I don't think he actually wants
• 1:21:34
  invasions. This is the tactic.
• 1:21:37
  You see it in Iran, also you see it in Russia.
• 1:21:39
  It's these levers. It's calibrating your approach,
• 1:21:42
  calibrating your openness to diplomacy, signaling at various
• 1:21:46
  times, and openness to negotiate and openness to meet and
• 1:21:48
  openness to talk or normalize. But also calibrating so that
• 1:21:51
  they have a a fear that you might credibly destroy them.
• 1:21:54
  Using the economic tools at your disposal to create
• 1:21:57
  destabilization, to create pain, stress on the regime, but also
• 1:22:02
  then to incite fear by again bringing down the force,
• 1:22:05
  demonstrating the force capability of the United States.
• 1:22:07
  And I think that's what he's doing in Venezuela.
• 1:22:09
  Very obvious because if you break it down over the course of
• 1:22:11
  the year, first he puts a $50 million bounty on Maduro's head
• 1:22:16
  to incentivize those top lieutenants to betray him and
• 1:22:19
  give him up to the United States.
• 1:22:21
  Increases the sanctions on Venezuela brands.
• 1:22:24
  I'm a terrorist organization, giving them a legal
• 1:22:26
  justification. Starts deploying naval assets,
• 1:22:29
  first to Puerto Rico, then to the Virgin Islands, Trinidad and
• 1:22:32
  Tobago. Now they're off the coast of
• 1:22:33
  Venezuela. Then he starts dropping bombs on
• 1:22:36
  the boats. Then he starts flying the
• 1:22:37
  bombers ever closer to Venezuela's coastline.
• 1:22:39
  Then he says, we're going to close your airspace.
• 1:22:41
  We could strike on the ground at any minute.
• 1:22:43
  As an economic as well as a psychological effect.
• 1:22:47
  One, it's going to grind a lot of trade to a halt, but also
• 1:22:50
  it's going to make them fear that action is imminent and fear
• 1:22:53
  makes people collapse. The regime is going to collapse
• 1:22:55
  under the weight of that pressure.
• 1:22:56
  That's the idea. And what I think is happening
• 1:22:59
  right now is that, like I said earlier, you've got this intense
• 1:23:01
  disagreement inside the administration where Rubio is
• 1:23:04
  certainly pushing for the regime change.
• 1:23:07
  He wants to go in and bomb Venezuela, topo Maduro.
• 1:23:10
  That will send a message to Iran.
• 1:23:12
  That will send a message to Russia.
• 1:23:14
  It might have ramifications for Cuba, for Nicaragua, for Panama,
• 1:23:17
  for Colombia for that matter. Because diplomacy is with the
• 1:23:21
  United States, is global. It's a global chess board.
• 1:23:23
  I think Rubio wants to topple the regime.
• 1:23:25
  I think Rick Grinnell wants a deal.
• 1:23:27
  And maybe Trump is using them to play off of each other as a good
• 1:23:30
  cop, bad cop. Maduro knows this, Maduro knows
• 1:23:33
  Rubio, Maduro knows Grinnell. Maduro's regime is negotiating
• 1:23:36
  with Grinnell and talking with Trump, but they also know that
• 1:23:38
  they could get Rubio. And what is going to come with
• 1:23:40
  Rubio is probably Maduro's head on a stick.
• 1:23:43
  So I think that's part of it, too.
• 1:23:45
  Now, it could be the case that military action is imminent.
• 1:23:47
  It also could be the case that a deal is imminent and they might
• 1:23:49
  be working out the details of the safe passage of Maduro to
• 1:23:52
  Qatar or some other third country while this is going on.
• 1:23:57
  At the same time, you have the Democrats in the media and
• 1:23:59
  Congress, and they're raising all sorts of concerns about the
• 1:24:03
  alleged second strike on one of these drug trafficking vessels
• 1:24:06
  in September. They say that.
• 1:24:09
  Right, it just freeze. What the fuck just happened?
• 1:24:14
  What the fuck? All right, give me one moment.
• 1:24:16
  I'm going to fix this. We're so close to the end of it
• 1:24:19
  too and it it decided to fuck up 1 moment.
• 1:24:30
  When Trump. Here we go.
• 1:24:34
  Sorry about that. Authorized Pete Hegseth to
• 1:24:38
  authorize a general to take out one of these drug smuggling
• 1:24:42
  boats that they dropped the bomb on the boat.
• 1:24:44
  They saw that the boat capsized and there were survivors and
• 1:24:47
  they finished off the survivors. They basically executed them
• 1:24:51
  even though their vessel wasn't seaworthy.
• 1:24:53
  They dropped another bomb and they killed these people
• 1:24:55
  slipping into the into the ocean.
• 1:24:57
  And the Democrats are saying that's a war crime because
• 1:25:01
  you're attacking people that are vulnerable.
• 1:25:02
  They're they're not seaworthy and so they don't actually pose
• 1:25:05
  a threat. You've just executed people that
• 1:25:07
  are ostensibly unarmed and defenseless.
• 1:25:10
  And so now the media, and this has been all over the New York
• 1:25:12
  Times, The Washington Post all week, and the Democrats in
• 1:25:14
  Congress have raised articles of impeachment.
• 1:25:17
  They're saying this is a war crime and an impeachable
• 1:25:19
  offense, that whoever authorized this, they broke the law,
• 1:25:22
  whether it's the Defense Secretary, the general, the
• 1:25:24
  officer or President Trump. And I, I at first glance, I
• 1:25:27
  think it's ridiculous. But then I think the reason
• 1:25:29
  they're doing it is to slow down the tempo of the Trump
• 1:25:32
  administration on the war. They're trying to pump the
• 1:25:36
  brakes. Why would they be into this four
• 1:25:39
  months, three months after the fact?
• 1:25:40
  That strike happened on September 2nd, September 3rd,
• 1:25:43
  it's December 4th, December 5th. This is December 4th show, but
• 1:25:47
  it's 2:00 AM, so it's December 5th.
• 1:25:49
  Why would they wait until this week to raise that?
• 1:25:52
  And why raise it at all? I think they're trying to slow
• 1:25:54
  down the tempo of the administration so that we don't
• 1:25:56
  rush into a war without congressional authorization,
• 1:25:58
  without oversight. And it's maybe a warning flare.
• 1:26:01
  You can't take out a drug vessel that way.
• 1:26:03
  You can't take out a whole country without approval from
• 1:26:06
  Congress. This might be Congress flexing
• 1:26:07
  its muscle. So I think that complicates
• 1:26:10
  things also in Trump's playbook here, because Trump likes to act
• 1:26:13
  quickly and decisively, which I like.
• 1:26:15
  And he's able to do that for a period of time.
• 1:26:17
  And then what always happens is the bureaucratic, the Democratic
• 1:26:21
  state catches up to him with all their rules and all their
• 1:26:23
  oversight and everything. And that's what it looks like is
• 1:26:25
  happening here. So that's a situation as it
• 1:26:28
  stands in Venezuela. I've been very clear about this
• 1:26:30
  from the beginning. We can maintain at once that
• 1:26:33
  Venezuela is part of our legitimate sphere of influence.
• 1:26:36
  People are always saying, why don't we focus on the national
• 1:26:39
  security threats at home? What does Iran have to do with
• 1:26:41
  us? And I totally agree with that.
• 1:26:43
  And that's a salient argument to make when people are talking
• 1:26:46
  about war in Yemen, in Iran, in in, in these types of countries,
• 1:26:50
  in Ukraine even. But Venezuela is in the Western
• 1:26:53
  Hemisphere. It's right across the Gulf of
• 1:26:55
  Mexico. It's not far, and I would
• 1:26:58
  consider both North and South America our legitimate sphere of
• 1:27:01
  influence. Anything that happens there
• 1:27:03
  could be threatening to the United States.
• 1:27:05
  What protects us and insulates us from other countries is the
• 1:27:08
  oceans. We are protected from invasion.
• 1:27:10
  We are protected from non nuclear powers that don't have a
• 1:27:13
  strategic Air Force or strategic nuclear capability.
• 1:27:15
  We're protected from them by distance because of the oceans.
• 1:27:20
  Iran can't hurt us because we're separated by an ocean.
• 1:27:22
  They don't have missiles that can hit us.
• 1:27:23
  They don't have an Air Force that can hit us.
• 1:27:25
  They can't threaten us. They can't invade us.
• 1:27:27
  It'd be tricky for China to invade us, for Japan to invade
• 1:27:30
  us. But that is not the case with
• 1:27:33
  Central and South America. Those countries, they could
• 1:27:36
  theoretically pose a threat to the United States because
• 1:27:38
  they're not separated from us by an ocean.
• 1:27:41
  They're connected to our country by land and by a not
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  insignificant or rather or what is the right wording for that?
• 1:27:48
  By a pretty insignificant distance over water too, The
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  Gulf of Mexico. So people like to say, well, we
• 1:27:56
  should stay out of it. I disagree.
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  I think this is our business. And when you look at what the
• 1:27:59
  Maduro regime has done, forget about the fact that he's
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  socialist. I don't really care about that.
• 1:28:03
  Who really cares? It's his country, they have
• 1:28:05
  national sovereignty. What I care about is the fact
• 1:28:07
  that he is aligned with US adversaries.
• 1:28:10
  And maybe if it was 1 country, it wouldn't be a threat.
• 1:28:13
  But he's allied with Cuba, Nicaragua, China, Russia, Iran.
• 1:28:17
  And to the extent that they are working with Iran's military, to
• 1:28:20
  the extent that they are working with China and Russia, and they
• 1:28:23
  get Russian weapons and they get Chinese investment, we are
• 1:28:26
  fighting a new Cold War, a new Monroe Doctrine in South
• 1:28:30
  America. We're trying to expel China from
• 1:28:32
  these Latin American countries. So why are we going to kick out
• 1:28:36
  the Chinese in Argentina and try to kick them out in Brazil and
• 1:28:38
  then all these other places? But we're going to let them have
• 1:28:40
  a foothold in Venezuela, dual use infrastructure.
• 1:28:43
  They're going to have the oil there.
• 1:28:44
  They're going to control the gold there.
• 1:28:46
  They might build drones there. Why would we let them do this?
• 1:28:48
  We're going to be at war with them.
• 1:28:49
  We're going to let them exist across the pond like that.
• 1:28:51
  I don't think so. So at the minimum, it is in our
• 1:28:54
  national security interest that we should not allow Venezuela to
• 1:28:57
  take the side of US strategic rivals, which is what China and
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  Russia are. And they're and Maduro has very
• 1:29:03
  conscientiously created an access with them.
• 1:29:05
  He's in league with them. And that's not to say that he's
• 1:29:07
  going to invade America or attack America, but
• 1:29:10
  theoretically, in a war with China and Russia, he might be
• 1:29:13
  used to attack the United States or be used against the United
• 1:29:16
  States in some way. And I don't know why we would
• 1:29:18
  tolerate that. So I am in favor of US
• 1:29:21
  intervention in Venezuela, although not necessarily regime
• 1:29:24
  change. I'm, I believe that America has
• 1:29:27
  strategic interests. That doesn't mean that it
• 1:29:29
  doesn't matter how we pursue them.
• 1:29:30
  I still think that we should pursue a reasonable and
• 1:29:33
  restrained foreign policy, the policy of restraint.
• 1:29:37
  I'm in favor of that. So I don't think we should go in
• 1:29:39
  guns blazing and take out Maduro and then all these other
• 1:29:41
  countries. But I do think that this is the
• 1:29:43
  right strategy, maximum pressure, a negotiated
• 1:29:47
  settlement. All we want is the oil, the
• 1:29:49
  gold. We want your allegiance and we
• 1:29:50
  want Maduro out and and that's it.
• 1:29:52
  And you could be a Bolivarian Socialist Republic.
• 1:29:54
  I really don't care. And I don't even think we need
• 1:29:56
  to kill the guy. I don't think we need a war.
• 1:29:58
  I don't think that would be good for the United States to
• 1:30:00
  destabilize this country. You're going to get another
• 1:30:02
  exodus. You might get guerrilla warfare.
• 1:30:04
  It might bleed over into these other States and create a
• 1:30:06
  security challenge for Brazil, for Colombia, for Guyana.
• 1:30:09
  Certainly. And by the way, there's a lot of
• 1:30:11
  unexploited resources right there in Guyana, in the Esquibo.
• 1:30:13
  So, you know, we want that too, and we want that too.
• 1:30:16
  And that's perfectly reasonable. So I definitely fall on the side
• 1:30:19
  of Rick Grinnell on this one. We should have a negotiated
• 1:30:22
  settlement. Let's get the allegiance of the
• 1:30:24
  government there. Let's get access to their raw
• 1:30:26
  materials. If we can go and think about it
• 1:30:29
  this way, people say, how does that benefit us?
• 1:30:31
  If we could go into Venezuela, we can make their oil production
• 1:30:34
  efficient. Their oil production is less
• 1:30:36
  than half of what it should be because of sanctions, because of
• 1:30:39
  corruption, because of inefficiency.
• 1:30:41
  If we got down to Venezuela and we started pumping their oil,
• 1:30:43
  that would be a huge energy boon to the United States and we
• 1:30:46
  would get all of it. Global oil prices would fall.
• 1:30:48
  That would hurt Russia. It would be beneficial for
• 1:30:50
  American consumers. We would secure the energy for
• 1:30:52
  our increasing electricity needs.
• 1:30:54
  And not only that, if we have a stable government in Venezuela
• 1:30:57
  that we're allied with, we can then extract all the energy
• 1:31:00
  that's in Guyana also because they've just discovered a ton of
• 1:31:02
  resources there too. It's a win win.
• 1:31:05
  So you do it smartly. You do it in a restrained way,
• 1:31:08
  You do it with regime change as the last resort, only necessary
• 1:31:12
  and extraordinary circumstances. And, and I think that's the
• 1:31:15
  America First foreign policy. But I'll tell you what I
• 1:31:17
  disagree with all these libertarians and leftists that
• 1:31:19
  want to bitch about, you know, leave everybody alone and they
• 1:31:22
  say that we should keep our nose out of there.
• 1:31:24
  That's their stuff. Fuck it, it's not their stuff.
• 1:31:27
  This hemisphere belongs to us. That's what it is to be America
• 1:31:31
  first. America first means we're in
• 1:31:33
  charge. America First does not mean
• 1:31:35
  we're going to sit with our hands in our lap at the United
• 1:31:36
  Nations and listen to fucking third world people bitch and
• 1:31:39
  moan and take all their own shit.
• 1:31:41
  That's not America First. When did multilateralism and
• 1:31:44
  internationalism become? It's totally the opposite.
• 1:31:47
  America First is we are going to March around this entire fucking
• 1:31:50
  half of the globe and we're going to tell everybody how it's
• 1:31:52
  going to be. That's America First.
• 1:31:53
  We're in charge. It is good to be in charge and
• 1:31:57
  people don't realize that we get to be a prosperous nation.
• 1:32:01
  We get to have a relative degree of autonomy and independence
• 1:32:04
  because we are powerful. Other countries get bossed
• 1:32:07
  around because they're not powerful.
• 1:32:09
  Look at like Germany, France, Italy.
• 1:32:10
  They get bossed around by the United States because we're
• 1:32:13
  bigger than them. They're dependent on US
• 1:32:15
  militarily, economically, so they have less freedom, they
• 1:32:19
  have less prosperity. They're getting killed by this
• 1:32:21
  war in Ukraine. Germany, like they will not
• 1:32:23
  survive this. And their leaders have no choice
• 1:32:26
  because they are a Sozaran of Washington.
• 1:32:27
  And people need to understand that, that it sounds great when
• 1:32:31
  you say we're a Republic, not an empire, but it's like an empire
• 1:32:34
  is what procures for us all these resources that make us
• 1:32:38
  rich. And what makes us rich is what
• 1:32:40
  makes us powerful. And what makes us powerful is
• 1:32:42
  what allows us to secure these resources.
• 1:32:45
  And unless you're ready to give up your autonomy or sovereignty,
• 1:32:48
  our way of life, you might say that's happening regardless.
• 1:32:50
  I'd agree with you. But if we want to have in any
• 1:32:54
  scenario, sovereignty and prosperity, we're going to need
• 1:32:56
  to have the empire. I don't want to give that up.
• 1:32:58
  I think it's ridiculous and and it's just ideologically not even
• 1:33:03
  right wing people go and say, yeah, so Venezuela is going to
• 1:33:07
  take their oil. Good for them.
• 1:33:08
  And it's like, don't get me wrong, yeah, they should profit
• 1:33:10
  from their oil too. But we if they should sell it to
• 1:33:12
  us, they can't be fucking around buying weapons from our enemies.
• 1:33:15
  Like it doesn't even make any sense.
• 1:33:16
  You can make your own oil and you can you can use it for your
• 1:33:19
  own social programs, but you're going to sell it to us and we're
• 1:33:21
  going to tell you how much you're going to make of it
• 1:33:22
  because we're bigger than you. And that's the way it's going to
• 1:33:25
  go. We're not going to sit with our
• 1:33:25
  hands in our laps. These people are criminals.
• 1:33:27
  Nicolas Maduro, that whole regime, they're criminals.
• 1:33:29
  They're crooks and we're going to go and sit in the United
• 1:33:32
  Nations and have them lecture. The devil spoke here yesterday.
• 1:33:34
  Fuck you. Who are you and what army, pal?
• 1:33:37
  So I I'm America first, but I just think we need to be a
• 1:33:40
  smarter, more restrained empire that works for our own
• 1:33:43
  interests. And that's why I feel this way
• 1:33:45
  about Venezuela. I know a lot of people disagree.
• 1:33:47
  They've been huffing the Ron Paul stuff.
• 1:33:50
  I know Dave Smith is one of them.
• 1:33:51
  You know, Ryan Grim talking about colonialism in Haiti.
• 1:33:54
  It's like, give me a break dude. They have 65 IQ.
• 1:33:56
  You think it's because of neo colonialism that they eat dirt?
• 1:33:59
  Give me a break. That's just not right wing
• 1:34:02
  anyway. But.
• 1:34:02
  That's we're going. To move on, we're going to take
• 1:34:03
  a look at our super chats. We'll see what you guys have to
• 1:34:05
  say about all this. There we go.
• 1:34:08
  That was the reaction to Nick Stream.
• 1:34:11
  Like I said, I I tried not to talk a lot or pause it a ton.
• 1:34:14
  I did very briefly here and there, but he gives a better
• 1:34:19
  take than literally anybody about this, so it's always good
• 1:34:21
  to listen to what he has to say. I'm going to get our comments
• 1:34:24
  pulled up. We're still going to read the
• 1:34:25
  comments. I'm doing this show a little
• 1:34:27
  earlier in the day than I usually do, so we don't have as
• 1:34:30
  many as usual, but we do have some comments to read.
• 1:34:32
  We're going to go through them and then the rest of the
• 1:34:35
  comments we will get to on Monday's show.
• 1:34:37
  But hope you guys are having a great Friday Today Casual Friday
• 1:34:40
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• 1:34:43
  Let me know what you think about the show.
• 1:34:44
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• 1:34:51
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• 1:34:55
  With that, let's get to our comments.
• 1:35:01
  Let's see, we'll do YouTube first.
• 1:35:02
  I think we just had like one on YouTube, and then we'll do all
• 1:35:05
  our Spotify comments. That's where we really get the
• 1:35:07
  comments. #15 got the grippy. Got the grip.
• 1:35:18
  Whoa. Who is number 15?
• 1:35:20
  Rosa Deloro. I think that's great.
• 1:35:23
  That's great. That's that's crazy.
• 1:35:27
  That's crazy. Rosa Dolora is crazy looking.
• 1:35:32
  The omission of Douglas Murray from the Retard Awards
• 1:35:35
  represents the travesty of our time.
• 1:35:37
  I would posit that the said individual should be among the
• 1:35:39
  higher echelon at the very least, but the fact that this
• 1:35:42
  said individual has been entirely discluded leaves one
• 1:35:45
  reeling with an unaccustomed level of exasperation.
• 1:35:49
  Yeah, that would have been a good, good addition of the list.
• 1:35:55
  There's a couple people I definitely forgot, but I put the
• 1:35:58
  thing together in one day. I got most of it.
• 1:36:03
  I think I did a decent job. But you're not wrong there.
• 1:36:06
  You're not wrong. Thank you for your comment.
• 1:36:11
  Any man who can provide enough dollar sign for his wife to stay
• 1:36:15
  home knows that's her domain. I might be the highest authority
• 1:36:18
  in my home under God, but my wife is the one who makes it a
• 1:36:21
  home and sets the core foundations for our children.
• 1:36:25
  Yeah, I don't disagree necessarily.
• 1:36:27
  I also didn't grow up with a bunch of modern feminist women,
• 1:36:30
  nor is my wife. She understands our roles as God
• 1:36:33
  intended. So I'm lucky I come home to a
• 1:36:36
  clean house, well kept kids and a big dinner ready for me.
• 1:36:40
  Nice. Yeah, that's that Sounds like a
• 1:36:43
  good life there. Props to you, buddy.
• 1:36:45
  I'll pray for you and your family.
• 1:36:47
  That's awesome. Thanks for your comment.
• 1:36:49
  Found your page a few weeks ago and have been a daily listener
• 1:36:52
  since. Love the show and reaction
• 1:36:54
  episodes. Keep at it and stay safe
• 1:36:56
  brother. Jesus is King.
• 1:36:58
  Christ is king. Let's go.
• 1:37:00
  Christ is king. Thank you.
• 1:37:03
  Appreciate the kind words. Do you consider yourself normal?
• 1:37:07
  What a mouth can't listen to to you.
• 1:37:09
  Cringe man. Al it's an evil world.
• 1:37:12
  Read God's word, it will never be what you want.
• 1:37:15
  You care a lot, but it is written until you understand
• 1:37:18
  stand that you will curse and be part of making the world the way
• 1:37:20
  it is. You're allowed to curse.
• 1:37:23
  It's not sinful to curse. It's it's sinful to be hate
• 1:37:27
  filled and to curse people, but cursing in itself is not
• 1:37:32
  necessarily sinful. And no, I don't think I'm
• 1:37:34
  normal. I don't think anybody who does a
• 1:37:37
  show every day or a live show is normal.
• 1:37:39
  I don't think any of us consider ourselves normal.
• 1:37:41
  So thanks for your input. I'm so sad you didn't give me an
• 1:37:47
  award, you didn't give me an official number and you could
• 1:37:49
  have just called it the Anti Israel awards.
• 1:37:53
  The anti is, I think only like 10 of the people out of the 25
• 1:37:56
  were Jews. I don't think it was all
• 1:38:00
  Israelis and Jews. I think only like 10 out of 25,
• 1:38:03
  not even half. And you got an honorable man
• 1:38:06
  That's Fidel. Fidel, you got an honorable
• 1:38:08
  mention. You were honorable mention at
• 1:38:09
  like 15 or 14 or 16, somewhere around that ballpark.
• 1:38:13
  You want it. You worked hard for it, Fidel.
• 1:38:15
  I mean, everyday you're doing overtime in the comments.
• 1:38:17
  So thank you for your comment. Glad you have a sense of humor
• 1:38:23
  about it at least. Lol nice some of these people on
• 1:38:27
  the blue side we should keep around for the entertainment.
• 1:38:31
  Yeah, possibly, but some of them are so fucking crazy they got to
• 1:38:34
  go. They can't be in politics.
• 1:38:36
  I mean, some of the people are so fucking insane on the
• 1:38:39
  Democratic side. The Democrats are.
• 1:38:41
  They feel irrelevant right now, but there's a good chance they
• 1:38:45
  win the midterms. But they feel irrelevant right
• 1:38:48
  now. It's like coming off the Kamala
• 1:38:50
  loss. Kamala was such a dumb bitch.
• 1:38:52
  Wine Mom. Like what did the Democrats have
• 1:38:56
  right now? Who do they have?
• 1:38:57
  Gavin Newsom. What was he 24th biggest retard
• 1:39:01
  of the year? Would you be willing to call for
• 1:39:05
  unity on the right if we stop funding Israel?
• 1:39:08
  Yeah, possibly, but it would be more than just that.
• 1:39:11
  Like it's not just the funding of Israel, it's the weapons.
• 1:39:14
  It's not just the money, the military support, the lobbying,
• 1:39:20
  the control of our media, equal access for people in America.
• 1:39:25
  First, APEC not registering under FARA.
• 1:39:29
  And honestly, like, you'd have to deport Miriam and Mira
• 1:39:32
  Medelson and get rid of the neocons.
• 1:39:35
  And I kind of wrote that out. And here's what he wrote back.
• 1:39:39
  But here is the thing, removing all neocons is nearly
• 1:39:41
  impossible. Not necessarily.
• 1:39:44
  I mean, no, not really. It's not.
• 1:39:47
  You just have to look at who's taking money from where.
• 1:39:49
  I mean, these people don't wake up and they're like, I want war.
• 1:39:52
  They're paid to want war. Also, even though I'm not anti
• 1:39:55
  Israel, I despise BB's government and all the war
• 1:39:58
  crimes that have been committed under it.
• 1:40:00
  Good based. We should ACC stop funding all
• 1:40:04
  foreign wars. Like who gives a crap?
• 1:40:07
  They started the war, let them finish it.
• 1:40:11
  Yeah, we, but we should also be holding people accountable for
• 1:40:14
  war crimes, not supporting them. It's OK to be a straight white
• 1:40:19
  Christian male. It's OK to be a straight brown
• 1:40:22
  Hindu male. It's OK to be anything.
• 1:40:24
  Just as long as it's not insane lol.
• 1:40:28
  Yeah, but also we shouldn't forget who built this nation.
• 1:40:33
  Just straight white Christian men.
• 1:40:36
  JD Vance might be better for USA than Trump honestly BC Trump ACC
• 1:40:40
  makes us look like a joke when we are literally the greatest
• 1:40:44
  nation to ever exist. JD Vance is a Silicon Valley
• 1:40:53
  prop. His name's not even JD Vance.
• 1:40:54
  It's James Donald Bowman. JD Vance has so many fucking
• 1:41:01
  problems. I don't think he would be
• 1:41:02
  better. I mean, he's younger, which I
• 1:41:03
  like. I like that he's a lot younger,
• 1:41:05
  but I'm not necessarily sure he would be better.
• 1:41:10
  Also, who do you think will win the Super Bowl this year?
• 1:41:13
  Hopefully the Eagles, possibly the Patriots or Bears, and then
• 1:41:18
  I wrote that and then this is what you said.
• 1:41:21
  I'm saying the Bears are winning the Super Bowl this year.
• 1:41:28
  I hope the Eagles do, but if the Eagles don't, I'm fine with the
• 1:41:32
  bears. I'm fine with that.
• 1:41:36
  Let's see. I think that might have been all
• 1:41:39
  the comments. We didn't have a ton of
• 1:41:40
  comments. I'm filming this earlier in the
• 1:41:42
  day, way earlier than I usually do.
• 1:41:43
  Let's refresh, see if anything new came in.
• 1:41:47
  No, that's all. I'm sure we will get more
• 1:41:50
  comments, but right now we don't have any.
• 1:41:54
  Yeah, that seems to be everything.
• 1:41:56
  All right, I'm going to sign off for the day.
• 1:41:59
  It's been a great Friday show. Hope you guys have had a great
• 1:42:02
  day today. Hope you guys enjoyed the show
• 1:42:04
  and the reaction stream today. We will be back here on Monday
• 1:42:08
  with a new show back to hopefully a busier week.
• 1:42:12
  I mean, it has been painfully fucking slow in the news.
• 1:42:15
  That's the reason we've been like, we did an award show this
• 1:42:17
  week. We did a reaction stream today.
• 1:42:19
  It's like there's not a lot to talk about.
• 1:42:21
  I could talk about like Elon calling Nick a Fed, absolutely
• 1:42:25
  fucking ridiculous, not presenting any information but
• 1:42:28
  saying it and then Candace saying the same thing.
• 1:42:30
  But it's like Candace is now backing out of the Turning Point
• 1:42:33
  USA event. A lot of people like Nick talked
• 1:42:36
  about her talking about the September 2nd Venezuela attack,
• 1:42:40
  but that's it's months ago and you know, again, we haven't
• 1:42:42
  really seen the videos. Really not a lot going on in the
• 1:42:46
  media right now. There's not a ton.
• 1:42:48
  So hopefully we get a busier weekend, we get a busier
• 1:42:51
  Newsweek coming up. But until then, I will see you
• 1:42:54
  guys on Monday. Hope you guys have a blessed
• 1:42:56
  day. Hope you guys have a blessed
• 1:42:57
  weekend. Please don't drink and drive.
• 1:42:58
  But if you do, call your lawyer first.
• 1:43:00
  I'm signing off today and I will see you guys again on Monday.
• 1:43:04
  Thank you.