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The Ron Verb Show - Full Broadcast from Wednesday, 09/23/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: Ron Verb on News Radio 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 2: Good afternoon, 305. Welcome to Wednesday, September 23rd already. 71 degrees.
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  Speaker 2: It's pleasant out there. And so much to discuss here
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  Speaker 2: this afternoon. Top secret number is always 330-729-9977. 330-729-9977. How
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  Speaker 2: is it possible that I mean, you want to talk
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  Speaker 2: about someone who should just resign their position and won't,
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  Speaker 2: and won't but should, is the clerk of court. All right,
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  Speaker 2: so let me just bring you up to speed. The
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  Speaker 2: office of controversial Mahoning County clerk of courts, Michael Saccone,
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  Speaker 2: failed to pay more than $ 20, 000 monthly electric and gas
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  Speaker 2: bills at area county courts. Again, raising questions about his
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  Speaker 2: ability to do even the most basic function in his job. Now,
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  Speaker 2: Michael Saccone was elected when Trump was running for president.
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  Speaker 2: And what happens in Mahoning County People went out and
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  Speaker 2: voted a straight Republican ticket. Not a bad thing to do.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, for years, people in my own county would
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  Speaker 2: go out and vote a straight Democrat ticket. So let's
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  Speaker 2: not sit back. Let's not have Democrats out there sit
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  Speaker 2: back and say, well, there's your problem. You're voting a
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  Speaker 2: straight ticket. Because for years, Democrats did the same damn
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  Speaker 2: thing in this community. And we had years of public
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  Speaker 2: corruption that was investigated. People went to jail. because they
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  Speaker 2: could put their name on a ballot and people would
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  Speaker 2: vote for him because they were voting for a Democrat
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  Speaker 2: ticket all the way. So anyway, backing up here, if
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  Speaker 2: you remember when Trump was running and people went out
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  Speaker 2: and they voted straight Republican ticket, they weren't saying they would,
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  Speaker 2: they voted for all the Republicans. Now they're not saying,
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  Speaker 2: Hey boy, I can hardly wait to vote for Michael,
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  Speaker 2: Michael Saccone to be the clerk of courts. No one
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  Speaker 2: probably knew who he was. It's a pretty good bet
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  Speaker 2: people didn't know a damn thing about this guy. But
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  Speaker 2: he won. And you would sit back and say to yourself,
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  Speaker 2: can you put more than just a half-assed effort into
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  Speaker 2: learning the responsibilities that the citizens of this community put
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  Speaker 2: you in? As I've said to you numerous times, and
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  Speaker 2: I will say this to you again, for many of
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  Speaker 2: these people that get elected to these positions, It is
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  Speaker 2: the best job they've had. Now, it doesn't matter to
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  Speaker 2: me if some of them are lawyers because some lawyers
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  Speaker 2: don't make that much money. Some lawyers are successful, but
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  Speaker 2: some aren't that successful. And if you're a lawyer, you're
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  Speaker 2: kind of an independent business guy. You've got to have
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  Speaker 2: an office. You've got to buy health care benefits. So
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  Speaker 2: it's not that easy being a lawyer. So for a
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  Speaker 2: lot of these guys, it's great when they can get
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  Speaker 2: some county appointment or job to cover their health care
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  Speaker 2: benefits or get them some additional income. That's one less
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  Speaker 2: expense that they have. So all I say to you
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  Speaker 2: is many of these people that are running for some
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  Speaker 2: of these positions, it's the best job they've ever had
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  Speaker 2: in their life. The highest paying job, the best benefits
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  Speaker 2: they've ever had. It doesn't mean they're good at it
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  Speaker 2: or they're even qualified for it. But wouldn't you think
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  Speaker 2: that when you won that election and you went into
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  Speaker 2: that office as a clerk of courts, that you would
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  Speaker 2: put effort forth to learn that position? Wouldn't you say,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to go in, I'm going to meet with
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  Speaker 2: the office holder who's currently there, see if I can
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  Speaker 2: shadow them, they can mentor me, that we can have
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  Speaker 2: a seamless transaction, transition, I should say, that we can
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  Speaker 2: do all of this kind of stuff, review the staff,
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  Speaker 2: make sure things continue to run smoothly for Mahoning County.
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  Speaker 2: Wouldn't you think that's what you should do? Since obviously
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  Speaker 2: you don't have a clue about what you're doing. Not
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  Speaker 2: the first time this guy has shown his incompetence. So
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  Speaker 2: let me give you an example. Let me back up
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  Speaker 2: and give you an example. When Ralph Meacham ran for
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  Speaker 2: county auditor, Mahoning County auditor, I don't know that there
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  Speaker 2: was ever a more qualified person to run for that position.
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  Speaker 2: When Ralph Meacham became the Mahoning County auditor, he came
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  Speaker 2: out of the private sector, CPA position, Intelligent man. And
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  Speaker 2: when he won the election to become a Mahoning County
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  Speaker 2: auditor against an incumbent Democrat under a cloud of activities
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  Speaker 2: he shouldn't be doing, I want you to think about
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  Speaker 2: what Meacham did when he took that office over. Meacham
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  Speaker 2: didn't play politics and say, I'm going to start firing
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  Speaker 2: people because I'm a Republican and I won, and now
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to start putting a bunch of cronies here.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't do that. He came into that office and said,
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  Speaker 2: if you're doing a good job and you're nonpolitical and
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  Speaker 2: doing a good job, you'll stay. If you're competent, serving
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  Speaker 2: the citizens. It wasn't a housecleaning. It was we're looking
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  Speaker 2: for people that were good at their job. And yes,
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  Speaker 2: he did fire a couple of people that were very
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  Speaker 2: political and higher up positions in that office. That were
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  Speaker 2: just far too political and hard to describe, but they
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  Speaker 2: deserve to be fired. But he kept the vast majority
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  Speaker 2: of people in that office so the office could run
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  Speaker 2: competently and smoothly. And he had the background and knowledge
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  Speaker 2: to step in that position. Probably the best county auditor
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  Speaker 2: this community has ever had. That's Ralph Meacham. It wasn't
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  Speaker 2: about politics with him. It was about running a competent office.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what he's done over the years. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know where this guy failed. But when I see Ralph
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  Speaker 2: Meacham on my television talking about the basic duties of
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  Speaker 2: this office, simply paying the electric bills, and the county's
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  Speaker 2: got the money to pay him, and that's not getting done.
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  Speaker 2: When Ralph Meacham sits there and he says, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the best thing for this guy to do is to resign.
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  Speaker 2: That's a powerful statement to me and an accurate statement.
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  Speaker 2: But this guy won't do that, and I'll tell you why.
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  Speaker 2: It's the best job he's probably ever had. Best pay,
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  Speaker 2: best benefits. I mean, he keeps screwing up. He's clearly incompetent.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's clearly– where is the effort? Where is it?
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  Speaker 2: So the reporter on 27 goes and stands in front
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  Speaker 2: of the door and he doesn't meet or doesn't talk
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  Speaker 2: about what's going on. He's nowhere to be found. This
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  Speaker 2: is your public servants in your clerk of courts office.
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  Speaker 2: Nowhere to be found. That alone is offensive. You didn't
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  Speaker 2: have the guts to come out to that reporter and say,
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  Speaker 2: this is what happens. This is what I'm doing about it.
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  Speaker 2: This is where I dropped the ball. You didn't have
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  Speaker 2: the guts to take personal responsibility for this screw up
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  Speaker 2: in your office that you're responsible for. You didn't have
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  Speaker 2: the guts to face that reporter and explain what happened
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  Speaker 2: to the public. That says everything I need to know
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  Speaker 2: as a voter when it comes to you. The credibility
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  Speaker 2: of Ralph Meacham sitting there and saying, this guy should
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  Speaker 2: resign and go is huge with me. He didn't have
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  Speaker 2: to tell me that. I knew that before he said it.
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  Speaker 2: It should have happened when they were trying to get
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  Speaker 2: rid of him a while back. But these people are in.
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  Speaker 2: They are sitting there saying, give me the paycheck. Give
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  Speaker 2: me the benefits. Give me the benefits. But you're doing
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  Speaker 2: a lousy job. You don't know what you're doing. It's
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  Speaker 2: an embarrassment. You listen to Joe, excuse me, Judge Joe
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  Speaker 2: Schiavone make perfect points about this entire situation. Then as
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  Speaker 2: Meacham and company look into this further and you see this,
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  Speaker 2: you sit back and you say, this is unreal. But
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  Speaker 2: you don't even have the guts to come forth to
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  Speaker 2: the reporter, the television reporter. You don't have the guts
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  Speaker 2: to come forward and say, this is how it fell
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  Speaker 2: through the cracks. This is what happened. This is what.
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing about it it's your fault it's your office
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  Speaker 2: you're to blame but you don't have the guts to
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  Speaker 2: explain to the community that you represent as a clerk
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  Speaker 2: of courts what the hell happened you hide in the
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  Speaker 2: office You don't come see the reporter? And it's worse
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  Speaker 2: than we thought? And it's costing the taxpayers of this
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  Speaker 2: community additional money to have the utilities turned on, apparently?
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  Speaker 2: You're to blame for this. And I've been around a
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  Speaker 2: long time here, and I've watched offices run well and
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  Speaker 2: not so well. I've been around long enough to see
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  Speaker 2: the corruption and people actually go to jail. And you're
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  Speaker 2: looking at this situation and you just shake your head.
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  Speaker 2: It's just unreal to me. Let me get that off
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  Speaker 2: my chest. And as I say, when Meacham speaks... I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. It has a lot of credibility with me.
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  Speaker 2: You're on air.
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  Speaker 3: Ron, good afternoon, sir.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 3: You're talking about Mahoning County's biggest grifter, because that's all
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  Speaker 3: that's about. There's only one reason he ran, and that's
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  Speaker 3: for a paycheck.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how to explain to these guys.
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  Speaker 2: You were elected on Trump's coattails. I mean, this is
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  Speaker 2: a reality. And you had a responsibility to go into
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  Speaker 2: that office and learn it and perform well.
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  Speaker 3: There's another one. Richard Scarcella. Richard Scarcella is the county recorder.
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  Speaker 3: Apparently didn't know how to do the job because as
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  Speaker 3: soon as he became recorder, what did he do? He
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  Speaker 3: hired Palermo, who he beat in November two years ago.
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  Speaker 3: Hired her to do the job, and I was just told...
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  Speaker 3: He's going to hire another one from Trumbull County, another
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  Speaker 3: from the Trumbull County Auditor's Office, because supposedly Palermo might retire.
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  Speaker 3: So now you're paying his salary, and I don't know
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  Speaker 3: what it is. But I bet the county recorder's knocking down,
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  Speaker 3: you know, between $ 80, 000 and $ 100, 000 or more, especially when
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  Speaker 3: you start putting all the benefits in. You know, the
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  Speaker 3: county employees, most of them have pretty good benefits. Health
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  Speaker 3: care alone is probably $ 30, 000- some- thousand a year for family plans.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, so wouldn't you conclude... Listen, it would have
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  Speaker 2: been better to just reelect Palermo and let her continue. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: but she might have been a Democrat, but she knew
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  Speaker 2: what she was doing.
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  Speaker 5: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: You know, in his defense, at least he was smart
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  Speaker 2: enough to ask her to stay on and continue.
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  Speaker 6: But.
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  Speaker 2: Wouldn't it have been better for all of us to just,
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  Speaker 2: instead of vote a straight ticket, say, okay, we're going
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  Speaker 2: to put her back in office because she knows what
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  Speaker 2: she's doing.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I bet he didn't do, though, when
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  Speaker 3: he hired her? And basically admitted he couldn't do the job.
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  Speaker 3: I bet he didn't take a salary cut. I bet
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  Speaker 3: he didn't say, you know what, I know I got elected,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm not going to take the full salary. I'm
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  Speaker 3: just going to take a third of it because I'm
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  Speaker 3: not doing the job. This lady's doing the real job.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: They're all grifters.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 3: He's still on the board of the Educational Service Center.
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  Speaker 3: He's still a board member there, so he's wearing two hats.
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  Speaker 3: He's running the recorder's office, and he's on the board
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  Speaker 3: for that organization. These people get elected just to suck
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  Speaker 3: at the public teats. That's all they care about.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 2: It's the best job they ever have in many cases.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm going to tell you, over the years, there's
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  Speaker 2: been extremely competent people that we've had in these offices.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Tony Vivo, retired, did an excellent job. He
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  Speaker 2: was just very, very good at his job over the years.
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  Speaker 2: Just did a terrific job. Palermo, as you mentioned, did
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  Speaker 2: a good job in that particular office.
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  Speaker 3: But you've also had crooks. You had Phil Chan.
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  Speaker 8: You had Phil Amina.
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  Speaker 2: I'm the first to say we had plenty of drifters
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  Speaker 2: and bad Democrats as well. But, you know, I can
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  Speaker 2: sit back and I can say from my history here,
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  Speaker 2: you've never had a better county engineer. than Pat Giannetti
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  Speaker 2: you've never had a better county engineer you've never had
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  Speaker 2: more roads done at a time when oil and asphalt
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  Speaker 2: are costing a tremendous amount of money you've got roads
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  Speaker 2: that have never been given attention to that are getting
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  Speaker 2: attention and he could have done more if oil prices
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  Speaker 2: stayed down so obviously he's affected by the market but
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  Speaker 2: you've never ever had a better county engineer than that
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  Speaker 2: guy that is doing more than what he's doing. So
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  Speaker 2: there's a competent office holder that you have. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think there's a guy that has better credibility than Ralph Meacham.
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  Speaker 2: Would you agree with that?
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  Speaker 3: There's three really good office holders. I think Ralph's a
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  Speaker 3: great office holder. I think Jerry Green's a great office holder.
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  Speaker 3: And I think Gennetti are your three county office holders
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  Speaker 3: that are really, really good. The rest of them, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not a fan of the commissioners blowing $ 60 million
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  Speaker 3: on a new building they don't need when they could
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  Speaker 3: buy the mall for probably $ 12 or $ 13 million.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense. Nope. But you're saying, isn't
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  Speaker 2: it sad when you look around and you say, well,
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  Speaker 2: there's about three. As I say, I look at Dave
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  Speaker 2: Thomas from a state rep standpoint. He's the hardest working
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  Speaker 2: state rep that I've ever seen in 41 years. I
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  Speaker 2: wish I could vote for him. He's not on my
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  Speaker 2: ballots because he's not my state rep. But I've never
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  Speaker 2: seen a harder working guy than Dave Thomas. Period.
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  Speaker 3: Tex Fisher's doing a good job.
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  Speaker 2: I would agree with that.
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  Speaker 3: Initially, I was a little hesitant, but Tex has come around.
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  Speaker 2: Tex is doing a really good job. I would agree
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  Speaker 2: with that. I would totally agree with that. But, like,
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  Speaker 2: for example, when I hear that, geez, her name just
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  Speaker 2: escaped me. She's running for commissioner at the Democrat site, McNally.
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  Speaker 2: She has one of the worst attendance records as a
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  Speaker 2: state rep. She's there for a paycheck, sir, not to serve.
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  Speaker 2: So you're collecting a paycheck as a state rep. But
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  Speaker 2: you're not going down there, and you've got one of
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  Speaker 2: the worst records down there for showing up. You're getting
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  Speaker 2: paid for a job. Stand by for a second. I've
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  Speaker 2: got to get this all off my chest. Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: 570 WKBN. Let me give you an example.
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  Speaker 2: When I talk about Dave Thomas as a state rep,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he's genuinely a public servant that has done
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  Speaker 2: things that benefit everybody, whether you're Republican or Democrat when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to property taxes. That's Dave Thomas. He has
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  Speaker 2: done that. You meet the guy, he is a down-to-earth,
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  Speaker 2: humble man, okay? He's not full of himself or anything
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  Speaker 2: like that. He's just a normal guy trying to do
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  Speaker 2: this kind of stuff. So it's what I admire about him.
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  Speaker 2: But when you look at Lauren McNally, who's running to
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  Speaker 2: be commissioner, who as a state rep has one of
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  Speaker 2: the worst attendance records, well, wait a minute, you were
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  Speaker 2: collecting his paycheck, but you weren't showing up to do
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  Speaker 2: the job. What's the reason here?
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  Speaker 3: All they care about is the paycheck. They don't care
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  Speaker 3: about representing me.
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  Speaker 2: And you and doing the job. But now she wants
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  Speaker 2: to be commissioner.
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  Speaker 3: They don't have to.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to get paid here regardless. I'm a state rep,
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  Speaker 2: and I had one of the worst attendance records, but
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  Speaker 2: now I want to be your commissioner. Really?
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  Speaker 3: Well, she probably turned out as state rep. She had
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  Speaker 3: to find another grift.
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  Speaker 2: It's just you were given this opportunity by the voters,
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  Speaker 2: and you couldn't show up? You couldn't have a good
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  Speaker 2: attendance record?
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  Speaker 3: Ron, if iHeart was going to pay you every day,
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  Speaker 3: whether you showed up to do your show or not,
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  Speaker 3: What's the point of showing up? You might as well
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  Speaker 3: not show up, right? Because you're still going to get paid.
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  Speaker 2: Because it's called something called pride in what you do.
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  Speaker 2: You were given an opportunity by the voters. It's not funny.
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  Speaker 2: You were given the opportunity by the voters to do something.
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  Speaker 2: You were a public servant. Fulfill those duties. We've had
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  Speaker 2: it over the years. You see it with Meacham. You
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  Speaker 2: saw it with Tony Vivo. You see it with Jerry Green.
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  Speaker 2: You see it with.
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  Speaker 2: The folks that you've mentioned.
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  Speaker 7: He's a millennial.
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  Speaker 3: Do you work with people in that generation?
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to attack.
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  Speaker 7: They don't work.
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't agree with that. I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: attack an entire generation. That's not right. It's not fair.
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  Speaker 2: I have children. They bust their ass. So don't cover
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  Speaker 2: them all with one broad brush. That's not accurate to do.
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  Speaker 2: This is hers to own, is what I'm saying. But
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  Speaker 2: this guy is... is sitting there and he's been incompetent
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  Speaker 2: from day one. Why haven't you got off your ass, Saccone,
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  Speaker 2: and learned the job and put a little effort and
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  Speaker 2: pride into it and surround yourself with competent people? Why
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  Speaker 2: haven't you done the least wrong? bit of effort to
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  Speaker 2: do that, it goes without saying. Why are we here?
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  Speaker 3: Look at his personal life.
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  Speaker 7: He's the guy that's a disaster.
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  Speaker 3: He should have never been elected to the office.
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  Speaker 2: But he was.
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  Speaker 3: Uninformed voters. You had completely and totally uninformed voters that
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  Speaker 3: just voted straight R down the ticket.
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  Speaker 7: I'm a Republican.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a Republican precinct committeeman.
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: I don't vote.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: Straight R down the ticket if I believe the other
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: side has a better candidate. I mean, you can't be
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: that partisan that you just go vote straight D or
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: straight R. If you do, you're an idiot.
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: And when you do.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Stuff like that, that's how you get a Chacon. That's
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: how you get a Scarcella. That's how you get these
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: people that are just getting elected for the paycheck and
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: not to do the work. Because that's all they're interested in.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: They don't have the morals and the work ethic that
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: you have and that you put into your kids, that
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: I put into my kids. it's getting increasingly rare to
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: find that anymore. It's not all millennials, but I can
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: tell you right now, there's a good chunk in that
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: generation that they don't care. I mean, they look at
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: me and you and our generation, we were stupid for
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: showing up to work every day and doing it and
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: letting our employers, or, you know, our employers took advantage
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: of us. That's the way a lot of them in
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: that generation, a good chunk, look at it.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: You just look at, like I give you an example,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Dave Thomas comes on the program on a regular basis
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: to say this is what's going on, this is what
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I'm doing. He reports into his constituents on a regular basis, right?
• 21:36
  Speaker 10: Yep.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I have never, ever received a phone call from Warren
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: McNally during her entire tenure as a state rep, ever.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: You have to vote Christine Oliver this November. I mean,
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: you don't have a choice. It's the only way you're
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: going to get somebody that at least is looking out
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: for your wallet for you.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: And if she's put in that position, it's up to
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: her to get up to speed and be competent really
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: quick on the position and the opportunity.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: She's done a good job at Canfield.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Right. And so you've got to get into that position.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: You've got to hit the ground running and be good
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: at it. I mean, that's what people expect there. I mean,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: it's just– you look at some of these people that
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: are running for some of these offices and– Some Republicans,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: some Democrats, and they're clueless. I'm here to tell you.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: They are absolutely clueless.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Laura McNally has never seen a public program that she
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: didn't think needed more money.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Stand by. Back in a minute after the headlines. Ron Verb,
• 22:40
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• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Bond is being set at $ 500, 000 for a man charged.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: In a deadly shooting in New Philadelphia.
• 22:53
  Speaker 11: 26-year-old Paul Kinlaw is being accused of shooting 42-year-old Christopher
• 22:57
  Speaker 11: Damron Sunday afternoon at a home on 2nd Street Southwest.
• 23:01
  Speaker 11: Kinlaw is charged with murder. Police in Ashtabula County have
• 23:05
  Speaker 11: arrested a suspect accused of hitting a child with their
• 23:08
  Speaker 11: car and fleeing the scene. It happened Tuesday morning in Conneaut.
• 23:13
  Speaker 11: There's been no word on the extent of any injuries
• 23:15
  Speaker 11: suffered by the victim. Franklin County Municipal Court is closed
• 23:19
  Speaker 11: for the rest of this week while crews perform emergency
• 23:22
  Speaker 11: maintenance on the building's fire alarm system. In-person custody arraignment
• 23:26
  Speaker 11: hearings will be held on Saturday. All other hearings this
• 23:29
  Speaker 11: week will be rescheduled. Normal hours are expected to resume
• 23:33
  Speaker 11: next week. I'm Andy Betts.
• 23:36
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• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Now, Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN. All right.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Rich.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, you just, people need to start paying attention.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: I've said this a million times. Most of us aren't
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: that busy that you can't go to a city council meeting,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: a school board meeting, a trustees meeting, all these, you know,
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: and I'm not saying you have to do it every month,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: but once in a while, go. call up somebody and request,
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: you say, hey, what's the school treasurer's, what's the superintendent making?
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: If people started looking into the contracts that these public
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: officials are awarded by boards who, in my opinion, are
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: completely and totally absolved of any fiduciary duty to the
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: public because they award contracts. Like I said, when I
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: ran last year for the Educational Service Center of Northeast Ohio,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: That superintendent out there, all in, in her last year
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: of her contract, is knocking down like $ 278, 000. I think
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Whitaker at the MCBDD, we're looking into him right now.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: I think he's all in, $ 160, 000, $ 170, 000. Healthcare plans the
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: likes of which none of your listeners who are not
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: public employees enjoy.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Today, you're lucky if.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: You have an 80-20 plan. Most people are like a
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: 70-30 plan in network, and if you go out of network,
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: it's probably 60-40. These public employees, $ 350 deductibles. I did
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: a records request from MCBDD. $ 350 deductible.
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: That's it.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Nobody has a deductible like that anymore. Most people are $ 750, $ 1, 000.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: $ 2, 000.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: And they're not paying much. I think they're only paying 12%
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: of the cost of the plan. I think that the
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: cost of their family plan is like $ 33, 000, $ 34, 000 per employee.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Do the math on that. I pulled a plan. They're
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: taking care of, I think, 975 clients. They're spending not
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: just their money, federal money and state money. They also
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: oversee that. They get the money from the federal government
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: and state. Add to it their local match. I think
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: it was 975, and I forget what they call them,
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: not dependents or something, but basically clients that they serve.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: They're spending almost $ 105 million. To put that into perspective,
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: they're spending as much on 975 people as what the
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: entire county budget is. Jerry Green's budget, I think, is
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: $ 35 million. If you add everything else up at the county,
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: you're at around $ 90, $ 95 million. They're spending $ 105 million
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: on 975 people. Now, it's not all local money. It
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: is federal and state.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: It's all your tax dollars.
• 26:41
  Speaker 13: It's $ 107, 000 per person.
• 26:42
  Speaker 14: That they serve.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: At what point do people not wake up and say,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: enough of... I understand. I couldn't imagine having a special
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: needs individual in my family.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: But $ 107, 000 per person?
• 26:56
  Speaker 13: $ 107, 000.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: And they've got.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: A big levy on the ballot coming up in November.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: That has to be defeated. There has to be more
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: fiscal accountability to the taxpayer from these public organizations. The
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: schools blow our money. I've been talking about that for years.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Some places, I live in Beaver Township. I honestly think
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: my three Beaver Township trustees do a good job. They
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: are good stewards of my Beaver Township tax dollar. I
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: can't say that about my school system. In all honesty,
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's a school system in the state
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: of Ohio that is a good steward of the tax
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: dollars that they receive. Because the number of administrative positions
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: and all the stuff that they do with their money,
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: it's ridiculous what schools blow. And when you get into
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: the inner city schools, Youngstown, Columbus, Toledo, Cincy, you're looking
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: $ 30, 000 and up per student, and most of them can't
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: read past the fifth grade level. At what point does
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: this nonsense have to end? The Democrats always complain there's
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: not enough money in education. There's more than enough money.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: The problem is it's going to teachers' benefits, it's going
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: to teachers' salary, and even worse than the teachers, the administrators,
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: the principals, superintendents, treasurers, the directors of every conceivable program
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: that they need to run. These people are all knocking
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: down six figures. It's crazy. I don't think people know,
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: the average principal in Mahoney County is probably knocking down
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: salary alone probably about $ 100, 000, $ 110, 000. Throw in benefits all in,
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: they're probably at $ 140, 000 for a principal. These people, and
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you know, they say they work 12 months
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: out of the year.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: They don't.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Go there in the summer. They're not there after 11,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: 12 o'clock in the morning. They may show up every day.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's ridiculous. Basically, from June until school starts,
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: it's a part-time position. And nothing against principals.
• 28:56
  Speaker 14: You need them.
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: They do a good job.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: But what we're paying a lot of these people compared
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: to what those of us who work in the private
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: sector have to earn and what we have to pay
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: for our benefits and other things, it's upside down. I mean,
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: for years, public employees had good benefits because their salaries
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: were low. That paradigm is gone. They're making more than
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: the people in the private sector are, and they still
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: have the gold-plated benefits. It's ridiculous. But nobody pays attention
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: to it. We're being fleeced, and nobody seems to care.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: It is just, it's pathetic. I mean, when you listen
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: to Joe Schiavone on there talk about the court not
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: getting its bills paid, And you think this guy will
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: do the right thing and say, this office is over
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: my head, it's beyond me?
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Not a chance. He's there until November two years from now.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: November of 28, God willing, the people of Mahoney County
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: are smart enough to vote him out. Until then, unless
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: he's convicted of theft in office or a crime or something,
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: you are stuck with him. Scarcella, unless he decides to
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: resign or dies in office, he's in the recorder until then.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: There's no accountability, which is why I've said, and I
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: actually went to the Mahoning County candidates' night. It was
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: a precinct committee, a central party committee last Thursday, and
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: I addressed everybody there and said, it's time to go
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: to a charter form of government because then these positions,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: they are employees of the county. They're not elected.
• 30:24
  Speaker 15: So they're way easier to.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Get rid of. You can just fire them. But if
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: they're elected, it takes almost an act of Congress to
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: get rid of them. It's virtually impossible. Even if you
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: would get the petition started on Chacon, by the time
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: it wakes its way through the courts, his term is up.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: In the meantime, he's probably gone off with $ 500, 000, $ 600, 000
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: in salaries and benefits.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't you think the guy would be embarrassed to go
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: out knowing that he's so damn incompetent in his job?
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Look at his personal life. He's not embarrassed about any
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: of it.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying, where's your pride? Where's your personal pride?
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: You've been given an opportunity. I would say this to
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: him if he was sitting in a chair over there.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: You've been given an opportunity. You got in the office.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: No one voted for you. They voted for you. You
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: wrote on Trump's coattails. So don't act like people actually
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: voted for you and even knew who you are. You
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: were given this opportunity, and you've dropped the ball from
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: day one. Where's the effort? Why aren't you meeting with
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: the reporter to answer to the public that you supposedly
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: serve on how this screw-up happens? Why do they have
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: to go to Meacham and Meacham has to answer these
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: questions and Meacham with great credibility says, well, the guy
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: should really resign. I mean, you know, you've got Meacham,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: who last time I checked is a Republican, saying this
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: guy's got to resign because Meacham's all about competence. Meacham
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: isn't a guy.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Tom McCabe, who's the Republican party chairman, will flat out
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: tell you this guy should resign. He should have never
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: been elected.
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: He's incompetent.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: But you assume that people in these offices have character
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: and integrity.
• 32:09
  Speaker 14: Most of them don't.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Most of them are just grifters. They're there for a paycheck,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: and that's all they care about, nothing else. They didn't
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: run to serve. They ran to be employed.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Well, when I hear about it, when I hear about it,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: when I hear that, I'm thinking, well, you didn't show
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: up to do the job you were being paid for,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: but now you want to make $ 100, 000 plus a year
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: and be commissioner. Well, wait a minute now. Are you
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: kidding me? Are you kidding me?
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: And it will be a razor-thin election. God willing, Christine
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Oliver pulls it out.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: All right. There you go.
• 32:50
  Speaker 16: Take care, Ron.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Thank you. I mean, these are interesting times. I've said
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: it to you guys a million times. I'll say it
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: to you again. You deserve better than this. You absolutely
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: deserve better than this. When you're looking at somebody running
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: for judge, they should have some experience in the court.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: And in these courts. In private practice for years. That's
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: what you should want for them to sit in being
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: a judge. That's how you get competence, isn't it? You're
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: on the air.
• 33:43
  Speaker 10: Wow.
• 33:46
  Speaker 16: That was something.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Well, it's the reality of what's going on around here.
• 33:50
  Speaker 16: Yeah, you're right. And finally, the gentleman before me that
• 33:54
  Speaker 16: called and talked about how he... votes a split ticket
• 33:59
  Speaker 16: because he feels all the other persons would do a
• 34:01
  Speaker 16: better job.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 34:02
  Speaker 16: That's what we have to do.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: You vote for competence. You vote for the person. If
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: you think that person is doing a good job and
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: knows what they're doing, then you keep them because they're
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: doing a good job. It doesn't matter to me if
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Jerry Green's a Republican or Democrat. I could care less.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: As sheriff, he's doing his job. You follow what I'm saying?
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Doesn't matter to me if Dave Thomas is a Republican
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: or Democrat. He's doing an outstanding job.
• 34:32
  Speaker 16: That's what counts, don't it?
• 34:33
  Speaker 15: Yes.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Ralph Meacham. Doesn't matter to me if he's a Republican
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: or Democrat. He's probably the best auditor that we've had.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: Period.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Pat Giannetti. Doesn't matter to me what parties he's at.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: He's the best county engineer Mahoning County has ever had.
• 34:48
  Speaker 16: Man, when he came up with that, I'm thinking... Wow.
• 34:53
  Speaker 16: And then the guy that usually was on in the mornings,
• 34:55
  Speaker 16: he backed him, you backed him. And I'm thinking, well,
• 34:58
  Speaker 16: what about this guy? So look him up and see
• 35:01
  Speaker 16: what he's got to say. But what made my, if
• 35:03
  Speaker 16: I could have voted him in, it was because he said,
• 35:07
  Speaker 16: point blank, this is not going anywhere. This money is
• 35:12
  Speaker 16: going to go for what I'm telling you, to reconstruct
• 35:16
  Speaker 16: the roads in his county.
• 35:18
  Speaker 14: Right.
• 35:19
  Speaker 16: And I said, right on. If I could have voted
• 35:21
  Speaker 16: for him, I would have voted for him right then
• 35:23
  Speaker 16: and there.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: And here's the thing about, you know, I can sit
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: here and I can bellyache on a regular basis about,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: and there's plenty to bellyache about. But when you got
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: a guy like Giannetti that says, this is what, if
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: you give me a quarter percent sales tax, I will
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: pay these roads that haven't gotten attention in all the counties.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: If you give it to me, I'm going to share
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: it with Boardman and Austintown and your local community so
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: that they get more paving dollars. And yeah, What a
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: huge difference it made for local communities. But also, I'm
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: going to do more stuff in the county. I'm not
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: going to use it for personnel raises or any of this.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: You know, I've got to deal with bridges and culverts
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: and roads.
• 36:04
  Speaker 16: I've got to do something. That's right.
• 36:05
  Speaker 14: Right.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: And you know what? Everything he said he was going
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: to do with that quarter percent, he's done. As a
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: matter of fact, I would be more than happy to say, okay,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: like WRTA, as I say, they get a quarter percent
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: forever sales tax that you folks voted for. I did
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: not vote for it. I do not support a quarter
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: percent forever sales tax for WRTA. I say it to
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: you again. WRTA has more money than it knows what
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: to do with. You can ride the bus. They don't
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: even charge anymore. They don't even operate that sham. That's
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: how much money they have. They're ripping down the bus garage,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: building a new one. Their biggest problem is figuring out
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: how to spend all of that money every year that's
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: coming in from the sales tax that you're paying. I'm
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: here to tell you I would rather that quarter percent.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: go over to to uh genetti to pave even do
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: more with roads because the cost per mile keeps going
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: up with the cost of oil and asphalt i would
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: rather pat genetti get more money and be able to
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: pay more of these damn roads that needed in this
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: community but he's doing the best job ever but wrta
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: like i say they got all kinds of money and
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: they continue to just Figure out how to spend it.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: And I say it again to you, again, the library
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: system on your property taxes has more money than they
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: know what to do with. They are personnel heavy. They
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: hire a bunch of people to insulate the head of
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: the library to not be receptive to what the public
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: has to say. I mean, you've got a library system
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: that's crapping on the people in Poland over their beautiful,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: spectacular library there that hasn't been maintained over the years.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: that needs to be maintained and should continue to be
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: the beautiful facility that it is. But they don't care.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: They've hired all of these PR people to try to
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: justify this and muddy up everybody because we don't care
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: what the taxpayers say or what the voters say. We
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: got your money. Screw you. We're going to do what
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: we want.
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: And that's where we are, period, on this kind of stuff.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: So what do you see going on in Poland? We're
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: not going to fix this spectacular library in the heart
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  Speaker 2: of Poland. We're going to go build another one because
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  Speaker 2: we got more money than we know what to do
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: with anyway. You follow me? So they're not receptive to
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  Speaker 2: the citizens of a community. WRTA isn't. They got more
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  Speaker 2: money than they know what to do with. I sit
• 38:34
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• 38:37
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• 38:43
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• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous.
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  Speaker 6: So....
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  Speaker 16: Okay, take a chill pill. Well, it agitates anybody who's
• 39:01
  Speaker 16: willing to try to understand what you're saying. Like the
• 39:06
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• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Listen to the chimes.
• 39:08
  Speaker 16: The federal government gave them people and helped them get
• 39:12
  Speaker 16: the buses, even though they were electric and you're not
• 39:15
  Speaker 16: too hot on that. But you're right. Why did we
• 39:19
  Speaker 16: give them that 4%? How about that generator plant out
• 39:23
  Speaker 16: in Lordstown? All the money they received and our electric
• 39:28
  Speaker 16: rates are going up. 38.1 percent rise in electric costs
• 39:35
  Speaker 16: in trumbull county area.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Well that electric plan is private i mean that isn't
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: a taxpayer undertaking no sir Those are owned by private companies.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: But let me back up and say, you know, they've
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: got a big problem here with the steam plants. And
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: a lot of buildings get their heat and– air conditioning
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: apparently from the steam plants. Well, you better figure out.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: It's a pretty big problem. You better figure out what
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: to do as we're getting closer to October and November
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: to say, what options do we have here as a
• 40:11
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• 40:14
  Speaker 2: that these facilities have heat? And the pipes don't freeze.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is a major problem. What's being done
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: about it? The steam plant has to be a high priority.
• 40:26
  Speaker 16: Well, I understand. I understand what you're saying. But then
• 40:30
  Speaker 16: we turn right around and we come in 10, 12
• 40:33
  Speaker 16: years later, and we give these big deductions on electric
• 40:36
  Speaker 16: prices to these centers. And then we got stuck with that,
• 40:41
  Speaker 16: and we got to suffer with that. And nobody realized
• 40:44
  Speaker 16: what was going on down in Columbus. And all of
• 40:46
  Speaker 16: a sudden, when, oh, my God, they're getting all this,
• 40:49
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• 40:52
  Speaker 16: And what have they done? They didn't tell, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 40:58
  Speaker 16: We've got to redo this contract. They just kept right
• 41:02
  Speaker 16: on letting them do what they're.
• 41:03
  Speaker 15: Going to do.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as I've explained the electric situation a million times.
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• 43:13
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• 43:18
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• 43:29
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• 43:42
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• 43:44
  Speaker 16: started saying, yeah, I started applauding. Two days later, the
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• 43:51
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• 43:58
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• 44:04
  Speaker 16: a phone call saying thank you, and I don't even
• 44:07
  Speaker 16: know who the hell the person was, to tell you
• 44:09
  Speaker 16: the truth. I really didn't care. My wife comes home
• 44:11
  Speaker 16: and says, they're talking about you, honey. There you go. So,
• 44:17
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• 44:21
  Speaker 16: If I wasn't so goofed up the way I am physically,
• 44:23
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• 44:26
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• 44:32
  Speaker 16: so that I could, you know, listen to what's going on.
• 44:35
  Speaker 16: Because I was involved in that stuff. Being a Republican,
• 44:38
  Speaker 16: I was involved in that stuff, even if I'd have
• 44:40
  Speaker 16: been a straightforward Democrat. But a lot of times you
• 44:43
  Speaker 16: get these people, like you said, that'll vote a straight ticket.
• 44:46
  Speaker 16: Rich come on and said, I vote a split, and
• 44:48
  Speaker 16: I'm going, amen, brother, I love you.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: No, he votes for the best person. All right, you
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• 45:11
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• 45:14
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• 45:17
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• 45:20
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• 45:23
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• 45:29
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  Speaker 18: It has amassed in a very short time frame a
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  Speaker 17: Missouri Republican Senator Josh Hawley leading a hearing on automatic
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  Speaker 18: What seems to make these networks unique is not just
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  Speaker 19: The United States and China are probably the two most
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  Speaker 2: Kingdom of Mahoning. I received this information. I want to
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• 50:22
  Speaker 2: I was saying to Bubba Ganoush, he asked me yesterday,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: he said, did you watch Trump's speech at the UN?
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: And I missed it. So I said to Bubba Ganoush,
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: I'm going to make sure I do that when I
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: go home.
• 50:33
  Speaker 7: Good.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: And I fulfilled my pledge to Bubba Ganoush. And let
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: me tell you something. Here's what I loved about Trump's
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: speech at the U.N. It wasn't full of political BS
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: and the usual political speech, which is just a speech
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: which says a bunch of words, but doesn't doesn't really.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: How do I put it? Says something but says nothing.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: You follow me? That's what I know.
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  Speaker 8: No, hang on.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Hang on.
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: Hang on.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: I'm not done. That's what you would get in the past,
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: but not with Trump. I watched Trump's speech at the UN,
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: and Trump, he lays it right out. Trump laid it 100%
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: out with Iran, with Cuba, with everybody else. There's no soliloquies.
• 51:20
  Speaker 7: You know, Cuba left when he was talking.
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: Yep.
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  Speaker 14: I saw it.
• 51:23
  Speaker 16: Yep.
• 51:26
  Speaker 7: Yes. Yes.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: They walked out. Cuba walked out. But usually these speeches,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: they say nothing and they mean nothing. But Trump has
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: the guts to say, this is where I'm at. This
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: is what I'm thinking. Iran, this is where we're heading. Hey,
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: over here, Cuba, this is what's happening. Hey, China. I mean,
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: he just he lays it all out so everybody can
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: understand what's going on and where he's at. I found
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: it refreshing.
• 52:06
  Speaker 14: I did, too.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: I know you were the first one to report into
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: me that you said, did you see it? And you thought, okay.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: I don't like the speeches that say nothing, that are
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: just full of, like, prose and this kind of stuff.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: I just don't care for it. I like a guy talking.
• 52:25
  Speaker 7: I'm glad that he let the U.N. know what he's done.
• 52:31
  Speaker 7: You know, and how good our country is and everything
• 52:34
  Speaker 7: and what they should be doing, you know, with their
• 52:36
  Speaker 7: borders and everything else.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, the deal with Greenland is a big deal.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: Make no mistake. That is a win. That's a success.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: It's huge for this country and the security of this country.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, what he pulled off with Greenland without costing
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: taxpayers a dime is a substantial win for the United
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: States in our protection.
• 52:56
  Speaker 7: And also Venezuela without our taxpayer dollars.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: I would agree with that. I would agree with that. Listen,
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: I'll be the first guy, and I'll say this to you.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: I would be the first guy to say to you,
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: I would love for him to get this situation in
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: Iran resolved. First of all, let me back up with you,
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: and let me ask you this question. How pissed do
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: you think Trump is at Zelensky for not listening to him?
• 53:24
  Speaker 7: He wants to slap him upside his head so hard,
• 53:26
  Speaker 7: you won't believe it.
• 53:28
  Speaker 14: He told him, don't bomb any.
• 53:33
  Speaker 7: Diesel plants or anything. That's why the diesel's going up.
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: He's blowing up diesel plants over in Russia that supply
• 53:40
  Speaker 7: us our diesel.
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, so Trump says to Zelensky, don't do that.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, Zelensky is escalating this.
• 53:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he needs to get smacked. This guy needs to
• 53:53
  Speaker 7: be put in handcuffs.
• 53:55
  Speaker 22: He's done.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, Zelensky is really he disobeyed what Trump said.
• 54:02
  Speaker 7: No, it's not even that. He's not even the president.
• 54:05
  Speaker 7: He won't have any elections, Ron.
• 54:07
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, this guy is, Zelensky's totally out of control.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: He's making this situation worse. And I think he's in town.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: I think Trump, in my opinion, it's my speculation, I
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: think Trump will do an ass-chewing of Zelensky. Would you
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: agree with that?
• 54:24
  Speaker 7: All day.
• 54:25
  Speaker 14: All day.
• 54:26
  Speaker 7: And you know what? Caroline Leavitt was on Hannity on
• 54:29
  Speaker 7: the podcast, and she said he doesn't hold back. He said, well,
• 54:33
  Speaker 7: we're in the room. We can't believe he's talking like
• 54:35
  Speaker 7: that to these people.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Well, it's it's about time, don't you think?
• 54:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I would be the same way, Ron. Let me
• 54:43
  Speaker 7: tell you something. This guy's got my phone tag because
• 54:46
  Speaker 7: every time I talk about something with people, he does it.
• 54:50
  Speaker 7: And I'm like, oh, my God, that was my idea.
• 54:52
  Speaker 7: You know, so anyhow, it's OK. Hey, I got this
• 54:55
  Speaker 7: idea I want to share with you, OK? Listen to
• 54:57
  Speaker 7: me closely. Now, I'm putting it all together, and I'm
• 55:01
  Speaker 7: giving it to the mayor of Youngstown, the mayor of Struthers,
• 55:04
  Speaker 7: the mayor of Camel. And what I'm doing, Ron, is
• 55:08
  Speaker 7: I'm finding all the issues that people have, you know,
• 55:11
  Speaker 7: negative issues, okay, about the AI. Oh, I'm sorry, SI, okay?
• 55:17
  Speaker 14: You know the data centers?
• 55:18
  Speaker 16: Yes.
• 55:20
  Speaker 7: Okay. And I'm telling them flat out, hold.
• 55:26
  Speaker 8: On, hold on.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: What are you going to do? Are you going to
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: a drive-thru? Are you ordering food or something?
• 55:31
  Speaker 23: No, no.
• 55:32
  Speaker 14: Oh, no.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: So he wants the audience. All of you folks listening,
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: just hold on. Bubba Ganoush is a little busy right now.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: He's putting us all on hold. We're all on hold.
• 55:42
  Speaker 7: No, I'm not. No, I'm not. I'll explain.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: All right. Go ahead. Go ahead.
• 55:50
  Speaker 7: All right. I'm done.
• 55:51
  Speaker 14: Okay, here we go.
• 55:53
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 55:54
  Speaker 7: I'm putting together. Let me speak. So I'm putting together
• 55:57
  Speaker 7: something that is a proposal to bring the AI down
• 56:02
  Speaker 7: where the steel mills used to be, down, you know,
• 56:04
  Speaker 7: you know how you go to Camel and Lowville and
• 56:06
  Speaker 7: all that? You know, that dirty land down there? Now,
• 56:10
  Speaker 7: we got the railroad tracks, we got power lines, and
• 56:13
  Speaker 7: we got the water from the Mahoning River, okay? Now,
• 56:18
  Speaker 7: the rule is that they got to create their power,
• 56:21
  Speaker 7: plug any extra back in the system, and anybody in
• 56:23
  Speaker 7: that area gets free electric, okay?
• 56:26
  Speaker 6: No.
• 56:26
  Speaker 7: That's near the AI center.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's never going to work.
• 56:29
  Speaker 8: Hold on.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: This is really a dumb idea.
• 56:32
  Speaker 7: No, that's the deal. 1731, buddy. That's the deal. They're
• 56:34
  Speaker 7: doing it with other people.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: What are you doing now? What, are you going through
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: a drive-thru?
• 56:39
  Speaker 7: No, I'm just paying the bill.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: What are you paying?
• 56:44
  Speaker 7: I'm paying the bill. Okay. So, anyhow, listen to what
• 56:46
  Speaker 7: I'm saying. So, they're doing this. I look throughout the country.
• 56:50
  Speaker 7: They're doing this. They're telling the AI people they've got
• 56:53
  Speaker 7: to create their own power. Purify the water better than
• 56:57
  Speaker 7: what they got it.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: All right. Listen, Einstein, tap the brakes for a minute.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Did you see 60 Minutes Sunday?
• 57:06
  Speaker 10: No.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: All right. So here's my problem, and I want you
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: to consider this.
• 57:12
  Speaker 7: I'm all ears.
• 57:13
  Speaker 18: All right.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Did you get your bill paid?
• 57:17
  Speaker 7: All done.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: What were you paying? What was the bill for?
• 57:21
  Speaker 7: Nothing. I just got some sodas.
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: That's all.
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: Oh, okay. Okay.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: You could say that. I mean, it's always this top secret.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: What drive-thru did you go through? McDonald's?
• 57:30
  Speaker 7: No, no, no, no. My special place.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: What's your special place?
• 57:33
  Speaker 7: On the up bar.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: What's your special place? Where do you go get your sodas?
• 57:39
  Speaker 7: I go get them at an Iranian store.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Now, let me tell you something. Now, if you're talking,
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: here's what I... Just as a side note, and I'm
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: going to get to these AI centers momentarily, but.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: It seems to me that if you want like a
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: really good soda, as you call it, I call it pop.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: You always got to go through the McDonald's drive through
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: and get a standard Coke. There's something about McDonald's and
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: their Coke that is like second to none. I mean, yeah,
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: it's like, I don't know if it's their formula or
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: the fizz or what they have. It's a game changer.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: It's an absolute game changer. Now, get a load of this. Now, I,
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: of course, have for the most part given up pop. See,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: I'm drinking all of this Milo's unsweetened tea.
• 58:28
  Speaker 7: No, I drink water. I drink mostly water.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 58:31
  Speaker 7: I get the sodas when I watch the.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: Listen to me.
• 58:35
  Speaker 7: I have one soda.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Okay. Right. I understand you can get a craving for
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: a soda. But here's what I'm doing at Verb Manor, okay?
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: Are you ready?
• 58:43
  Speaker 14: All right.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: So I gave you the first tip. And I learned
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: this really from my wife. First and foremost, if you
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: want a really good standard Coke– You go through the
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: McDonald's drive-thru and you get the ice and the Coke.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: It's the carbonation. It's the fizz, whatever. It's just really good.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: It's always been one of the best that they have
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: at McDonald's. But now when it comes to, guess what
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: I've been doing. So if you go to Home Depot,
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: are you listening to me, Bubba Ganoush?
• 59:16
  Speaker 15: Go ahead.
• 59:17
  Speaker 14: I'm all ears, actually.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: All right. They are carrying what's called Mexican Coke. And no,
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: that's not the kind you put up your nose. They're
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: carrying what's called Mexican Coke. Now, I never knew what
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: Mexican Coke was. My wife explained this to me. All right,
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: so it comes in a bottle. It comes in a
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: Coca-Cola bottle, and it is made the old-fashioned way with
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: real cane sugar. It doesn't have corn syrup or anything
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: like that in it. So you get the bottles the
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: size of a can, okay?
• 59:46
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: Now, you get 24 bottles for like $ 37 or $ 38.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: So they're about less than $ 2 a bottle, but it's
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: not inexpensive.
• 59:52
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: But it doesn't have all of the crap that you
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: get if you go buy a can of Coke at
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: the store. You follow me? The corn syrup and that
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff. So I was turned on to this
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: by a friend of mine. My wife first told me
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: about Mexican Coke. And then I ran into a friend
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: who said he just got a case of it at
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Home Depot. I said, Home Depot?
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: So they went to Home Depot and I bought a
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: case and it has– it doesn't have all the chemicals
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: in it. So go to Home Depot and buy yourself
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: a case of Mexican Coke and I think you'll really
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: enjoy it. Put it in a Bubba Ganoush refrigerator. Make
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: sure it's chilled properly. And next time you want a good–
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Coke outside of that and you're out driving, go through
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: the McDonald's drive-thru. I've given you all of my soda advice, okay?
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: Did you write it down?
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 14: Yep.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 7: Now back to the AI.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, now I'm going to AI. I was talking about
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: 60 Minutes Sunday. This really, really chaps my hide. So
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: the guy, they were interviewing a guy that says, and
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: it was Amazon, right? Amazon wanted to buy all this
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: farmland in this guy's county and put an AI center there.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: They wanted, listen to me, Bubba Ganoush, they wanted a 90%
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: tax abatement for 30 years.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 7: No, no tax abatement.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: Right, tap the brakes. So imagine, Amazon, one of the
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: richest guys around on the planet, and quite frankly, one
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: of the wealthiest companies, AWS and Amazon, they wanted a 30-year, 90%
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: tax abatement. So the guy in that county.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: Had the guts to say, absolutely not. We are not
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: going to do that. And guess what Amazon did? They
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: went to the next county over where those spineless saps
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: in the next county over gave them a 30-year, 90%
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: tax abatement. Because, you know, that center won't even be
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: open 30 years from now, just based on technology. But
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: the county over, the next county over, gave Amazon a 30-year, 90%
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: tax abatement.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 7: What state is this?
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: Texas.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 7: Okay, Texas.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: All right, now, so let me go one step further.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: I am not opposed to these AI centers. These people
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: that are putting these moratoriums out there and all this
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff, you're fear-mongering on this kind of stuff.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I heard they did that in McDonald, Ron.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, just hear me out. They're fear-mongering. Listen to me, folks.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: I am all for the following conditions. If you want
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: to build an AI center.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: In this area, you must provide your own power.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 14: That's correct.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: All right. You're not going to shift the burden onto
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: our grid and raise our electric bills because of your
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: demand for electricity for your AI center. So that's number one.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: You have to provide your own power. Number two, you
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: have to show us the water consumption that you're going
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: to need to how the water is, how it's treated.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: We've got to know everything about the water.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 7: That's part of my proposal.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Hang on. Some of them are using more water than
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: they initially said they would be using.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 15: We want to know... Hang on.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not done, Bubba Ganoush. I'm not done. We want
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: to know exactly how much water you're going to use
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: And are you polluting it or not? We need to
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: know this stuff, okay? So that's number two. How much water?
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: What's the effect? And we're going to follow up on
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: this to make sure it's not polluted and our water
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: system isn't destroyed. We've got a lot of water around
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: here because of the steel mills. So we want to
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: know that you generate your own power. We have the water.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: We're a great spot for these AI centers. And absolutely
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: zero tax abatement, period. So if you build an AI center, folks,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: listen to me. I got a cough. If you build
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: an AI center, the levies, your property tax levies, your
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: fixed levies, not your inside millage, can only generate so
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: much money. So if that big AI center, you shift
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: the property taxes, you take a look at that center,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: it has to pay property taxes. It should lower the
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: property taxes homeowners pay Because of the amount of property
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: taxes that AI centers should pay. That only works if
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: you have politicians that say absolutely zero tax abatement. The
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: state must say zero tax abatement and your local community
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: must say zero tax abatement because they need to be here.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: We have the best weather. It's not too hot. It's
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: not too cold. We have the best weather for AI centers.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: We have the water because of the steel mills. And
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: we don't have to kiss our arse on anything. No
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: tax abatement. We're going to want to know how much
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: water you're going to use, what the condition of it is,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: how it's being treated. And we want to make sure
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: that you generate your own power so it doesn't raise
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: our electric bills. And potentially, like you said, you could
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: put power back in the grid. And then you should
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: embrace them. You shouldn't put moratoriums on this kind of stuff.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: You should embrace them because it can lower your property
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: taxes because we're all going to be using AI. Go ahead. Okay.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 7: So that's part of my proposal, what you just said. Now,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 7: on the aspect of power.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: That should be your whole proposal. That should be your
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: entire proposal.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 8: Wait a minute.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: Stand by. Let me do my break. That should be
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: your entire proposal. I don't know what else you could
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: add to it. I'm going to find out and get
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: to more calls right after this. Casual carpets is veteran owned.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: It's a WKBN and Ron from the kingdom of Mahoney.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: As I said, the big boss told me today that
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: for all the folks concerned about the podcast, it appears
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: everything should be good to go for, uh, today's program
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: to be podcast on the I heart app later today.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: So it should, our, our episode should return to the
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: I heart app. They've, they've been being posted, uh, on, uh, Facebook. Um,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: But not on the iHeart app. So they should return
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: to the iHeart app. That should happen two nights. News
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: Radio 570, WKBN, and Ron Ferb. So what do you
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: have to add after I gave you those three things?
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: What possibly... Okay, listen. Yeah.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 7: On the aspect of power, okay, they have generators that
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 7: can create their own power.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 14: You're right.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 7: Now.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: Those are backup generators. Those are backup generators. They've got
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: to create their own power.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 7: No, no, no, no. Listen.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 18: Listen.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 7: They're building them down in South Carolina. Now, listen to me.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 7: Just let me talk.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 10: Okay.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 7: So, now, they've got to create to empower. Okay.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: Using gas.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 7: Okay. Now, the area that they put it in has
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 7: to be like in an old industrial site. You know, like,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 7: I don't know what you call that ground. I forget. Brownfield.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 7: That's where they build it. Now, perfect location, Ron.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: Think of this.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 7: You ever go down, not Wilson Avenue, but, yeah, Wilson Avenue.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 7: You know how you go straight down there and it
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 7: takes you into Camel and then eventually into Lowville? You
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 7: know all that land there? Now, you're down low, so
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 7: the sound won't bother anybody. You've got a river there.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 7: You've got power lines there. You've got substations to tap into.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 7: It's all set up. I mean, we can have, like,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 7: four or five different data centers in that area.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: I'm not opposed to putting them in those areas as
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: opposed to destroying great farmland. I'm not opposed to.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 14: That at all.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: All right, so I'll give you that.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 7: The electricity that they make. Now, I didn't make up
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 7: this idea. I got this idea from a guy that's
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 7: running for governor of a bank. The energy that's being
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 7: generated is going to go back into the grid extra.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 7: And all the people in the surrounding area of that
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 7: data center get free electricity.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: Well, that's not going to happen. All right, enough. Thank you,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: Bubba Ganoush. No, that's it. I can't take it anymore.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: We're not going to be giving free electricity to people.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, any electricity that they produce that's beyond what
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: they use should go back into the system because we
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: need more electricity to lower our electric bills. So I'm
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: with you on that kind of stuff. All right. You're
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: on here. Oh, it's JJ, the Trumpster.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 23: You know, I'm still in on that check.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 7: I have to go.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 23: I'm going my way back up to put clothes in
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 23: the dryer now.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: When I drive by, folks, this is where I'm at
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: in my life. When I go by the laundromats in
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: the Cornersburg area, I almost want to go in and
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: see if JJ's in there washing his skivvies. I mean, because.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 23: Right now I've been doing this and I've been between
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 23: cutting the grass and taking care of the food.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 8: Why are you washing?
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: Why are you washing clothes every day? Don't you go
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: up every few days? Seems like you're.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 7: Listen, you ought to know better.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: I have a wife.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 7: OK, that's first and foremost.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 23: I have a wife and I have a an eight
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 23: year old. So, I mean, that's that's where all the
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 23: clothes are coming from. So I I need to get
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 23: that five grand. So I don't know what you need
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 23: to do to pull some strings here, my friend, but
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 23: that check I got is a paperweight right now.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 7: So I don't know.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 23: If I'm being messed with or what, but.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: I want to understand something, though.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 23: I'm passing the construction over here, and I'm seeing gates,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 23: and I'm seeing.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 24: Oh, yeah, I see.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 7: You, pal.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 23: You know, I'm... This is ridiculous. I'm coming to rule today, man.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, so wait a minute. You're going too fast. J.J.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: the Trumpster just passed the new Sheetz location that's being
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: built right there in Cornersburg. And what, a construction worker?
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: You said same to you, pal?
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 23: He knows me because I came up here and I
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 23: have a sign around my neck saying, you know, anti-sheets.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 23: And he's always throwing me the finger. So I'm throwing
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 23: him the one.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: You want to take.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 24: Me up the street.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 7: What the hell, man?
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: You want sheets. You want sheets there.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: Get away, man.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 23: Get away from me.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: Jeez, oh, man.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 7: This is crazy, man.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 23: Jeez, I can't even live in this. So anyway, this
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 23: is what I'm dealing with. You know, I've got a
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 23: $ 5, 000 paperweight sitting at home, and now I've got this guy.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: He's ready to.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you're going to the laundromat is what you're saying. Again,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: stand by. I'm going to get back to you. J.J.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: the Trumpster, his life is falling apart. I'll be right
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: back with him.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 8: News Radio 570 WKVN.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 25: The attorney for the man charged in the stabbing of
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 25: Gibsonburg police officer Maria Kisha is withdrawing his client's request
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 25: for a competency hearing.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: Scott Dodd Jr.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 25: Reportedly stabbed Kisha on August 26th as she tried to
• 1:11:27
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• 1:11:30
  Speaker 25: allegedly trespassing. Dodd is charged with felonious assault and has
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 25: pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity. Dodd's attorney says
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 25: he believes his client is competent to stand trial. And
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 25: a Lionel Richie concert in Columbus is now canceled for
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 25: the second time this year. A spokesperson for the four-time
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 25: Grammy winner says the October 2nd performance at the Shonstein
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 25: Center is not happening. due to Richie's health complications. The
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 25: 77-year-old singer is taking time after undergoing a procedure for
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 25: atrial fibrillation, according to USA Today. The October concert in
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 25: Columbus was a make-up date scheduled after a June show
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 25: was canceled as well. I'm Brady Hopkins.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 8: On News Radio 570, WKBN.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: I tell you, man, that 60-minute show, though, on Sunday
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: was just, how stupid is it to give Amazon, as
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: they did in Texas, that county, a 30-year 90% tax abatement?
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: Because that AI center isn't going to be around 30
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: years from now. I mean, it's just it's so stupid
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: and disrespectful to the property tax owners in those communities.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: And they're building them in Texas on this virgin, beautiful farmland.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: And kudos. I mean, it seems to me that which
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: I got to talk to Dave Thomas about this. The
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: state of Ohio should forbid any tax abatements for any
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: AI center. And I go back to say, we are
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: the sweet spot for them because we got the right weather.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: Isn't too hot, isn't too cold. We have the water here.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: Everything's here. But under no circumstances should they ever get
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: any tax abatement, period. Or any tax break at all. Zero.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: We're in the driver's seat here. So you show us
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: how you can generate your power so it doesn't raise...
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: our rates. You show us how much water you need
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: in the process so that we can verify that the
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: water's good when you're done with it. And you pay
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: your taxes and your property taxes and we shift a
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: lot of the burden of fixed levy cost onto those
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: facilities and ease that burden on our homeowners. That's why
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: I'm against moratoriums on AI centers. You're cutting your own throat.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: They're going to go somewhere because it's going to happen.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: It's going to happen. So don't cut your throat about
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: the future. Take advantage of it. Embrace it. Get something
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: from it. Don't let others get it. You're on the air.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 7: Mr.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 10: Ver, how you been?
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: I am well. I am well.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 10: You're about 40 years late to the party. That's what
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 10: I've been trying to tell you since I've been calling
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 10: you on the phone. Eisenhower said it well. Beware of
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 10: the military-industrial complex. It's upon you, my friend. It's upon you.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 10: All of these places, how many AI centers does Ohio
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 10: have right now? Do you have any?
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, I have no idea. There's a bunch of them.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 10: I heard there was 200. I don't know if that's
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 10: true or not.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but there's a lot of them. But
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: here's my rub on this.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 10: Oh, no, I understand it perfectly.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 15: You know what?
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 10: It's not going to happen because big business is going
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 10: to run out every time. So your tax abatements, you
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 10: can forget about that.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, bull crap.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 10: No, forget about it. Because they'll just go to another county.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 10: And whoever's running that county, if they want that business
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 10: bad enough, they're going to take it. You're talking too
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 10: much like a Democrat now. That's what I've been trying
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 10: to preach to you for the last 10 years that
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 10: I've been calling you.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: You've got to lower your volume on your phone.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 10: So you really do. All right, now, listen. Okay, I'm listening.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: I am going to... After the election, I am going
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: to have an on-air meeting with Dave Thomas, state rep.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: And I'm positive already that he's on the same page,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: that he's against any tax abatements going to AI centers.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 10: It will happen. It will happen. That's why you're paying
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 10: a lot more. It's not just AI. It's been all
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 10: the businesses that have moved into Ohio or wherever in
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 10: the country.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 15: You're right about that.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: I am against tax abatements, period. Okay, so you've outed me.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: I am against tax abatements, period. I think it's bullcrap.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: I think it's absolute bullcrap to give anybody a tax abatement.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: If you want to build a business here or you
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: want to build an AI center here, you pay your
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: damn property taxes instead of shifting more burden to the homeowner. Period.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 10: Ain't going to happen. Ain't going to happen. The businesses
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 10: hold the states hostage. You want my business? I get
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 10: 30-year tax abatement or whatever, 10-year. And you flip the bill.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 10: You do. That's why we have such high property tax.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 10: It's not– you don't have to be a Philly lawyer
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 10: to figure it out.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: And listen, I'm just....
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to tell you.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 10: That's exactly why we're in the position we're in. I've
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 10: read you article after article after article out of the paper,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 10: but you don't pay attention. You're not paying attention. You think, oh, you... Anyway. Oh,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 10: I get so pissed.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 7: Off at you.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: Why are you getting so pissed off at me? I
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: am trying to.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 8: Listen.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: Listen.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: This is exactly what I've.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 10: Been talking about for a long time. It didn't used
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 10: to be that way and you know it. When the
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 10: steel mills were in here, they paid their fair share.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: I'm the last guy you should get upset with.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 10: I know, but I'm upset with you because you keep
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 10: talking about those stupid Coca-Colas that you keep.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 14: Drinking all the time.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 7: No, I don't.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 10: You're going over to the Mexican Coke.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: No, I'm going to. I'll explain that momentarily. Wait a minute.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: I'm trying.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 15: I heard it.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 10: I know all about it.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 15: It doesn't have the chemicals in it. I've got to
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 15: do something.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 10: It's probably twice the price.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: I'm going to find out something. You know what I mean?
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: Because you just got to bear with me here, because
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: this is how I got to do stuff. I mean,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: just how it is. I want to see if I can.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 10: You sound like Bubba Galoosh now.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 14: We got to wait for you.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: Yes. What are you doing? I'm trying to make a
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: phone call.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 15: Okay. I'm making a phone call.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 10: Okay.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: I was trying to make a phone call off the
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: air to Dave Thomas. Because here's the difference between you
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: and me.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 14: What?
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 10: About 12 years.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 16: Go ahead.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, you had to go there. Here's the difference between
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: you and me.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm about 5'7.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 10: I think I'm 5'8.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: Okay. So here's what's going on. I am saying to you,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: talk is cheap, deeds are precious. When it comes to
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: AI centers, I believe, and I wanted to verify, that
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: Dave Thomas, state rep, is on the same page as
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: I am with absolutely zero tax abatements for AI centers.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 10: Don't make that phone call. Dave Thomas can bang his
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 10: head against the wall. He can tell you.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 15: Anything he wants.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: So listen to you.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 10: The powers to be, the powers to be are not
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 10: going to let, it's not going to happen.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: So you know what? All you do is discourage us
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: from fighting.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 10: We're not trying to discourage you.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 14: Yes, you are.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 10: I want you to face reality.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 8: No, you're telling me right now.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 10: I told you a long time ago.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: You're telling me right now. Don't waste your time. Don't
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: waste your effort. I'm telling you, I will waste my
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: time and effort to go through this process with Dave
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: Thomas and Tex Fisher and these guys to say we've
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: got to make sure that under no circumstances any AI
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: center gets any property tax abatement. I believe Dave Thomas
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: is on the page. I just wanted to verify it.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: And so I'm trying to make sure that happens. And
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: you're telling me, don't waste your time. Well, I'm going
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: to waste my time because I think that is a
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: reality that can happen. I'm not going to get discouraged
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: and give up like you want me to do.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 10: I don't want you to give up anything.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 15: Yes, you are.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 10: I want you to fight the good fight.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: You're telling me to throw in the towel.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 10: Because what you're talking about is the reality that it
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 10: should happen that way. What you're saying is, yes, that's
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 10: what everybody wants. That's going to happen.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 10: I'm not trying to be discouraging.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 15: I'm just telling you.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: I've told you and I've said to you, not just AI,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: I want you to hear this loud and clear. I
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: am opposed to any property tax abatement to any business
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: at all. And I still see it going on by
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: my elected officials. I am against any tax abatements because
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: it's not right for existing homeowners paying these outrageous taxes.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 10: I agree 1,000%.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: And I'm against any of them. If you want to
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: build a business here, you pay the property taxes because
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: you're using those services just as everyone else is. You
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: should not be exempt for it. And as a matter
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: of fact, I've got to make a diligent effort for
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: as long as I'm around to report back to you
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: when these people are getting tax abatements, which is wrong.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: But I'm against them 100%. Now, I put that to rest. Now,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: I want you to hear this. Now, you have to listen, okay?
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 16: Okay.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: Are you listening? So Baba Ganoush says about buying Coke,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: I said to him, the best Coke you'll get is
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: when you go through the McDonald's drive-thru, buy a standard Coke.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: It's got the good fizz and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: I was giving him advice on where he can get
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: a good Coke. Now, I want you to understand, my
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: wife has said that for years, and I don't drink
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: nearly For the longest time, I didn't drink any pop
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: at all, and I will have an occasional one very infrequently.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: Listen to me. I'm listening. Okay, I'll have one very
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: infrequently that I will have one. But so I'm not
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: drinking them every day. Now, my wife says and she's smart.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: She says, I never knew about Mexican Coke.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: And Mexican Coke.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 10: You've got to get out a little bit more because
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 10: it's been around for quite a while.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: I understand that. But I didn't pay attention to it.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: That's why I got a wife.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 10: There you go. Not paying attention.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 16: OK.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 15: I have a wife.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 10: She paid attention.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: She says, so anyway, I buy this 24-pack. It comes
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: in bottles at Home Depot.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 10: I heard the whole thing.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, a Mexican Coke.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 10: I've had it before. I know exactly what it is.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: And it's in the refrigerator. I don't drink it every day.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: My wife will have one occasionally. I'll have one occasionally. And–
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: It's the size of one can of pop, but it's
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: in a bottle, and it's real sugar. It doesn't have
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: all the course.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 7: It's a cane sugar.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 14: Yes.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: It's a cane sugar.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: I got to watch my sugar content so I don't drink.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: A lot of it.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 10: It's still sugar.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but you're disappointed.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 10: Do you have to do the job every day or not?
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: Do I have to do what?
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 10: The job every day.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: No, I don't do that.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 10: Do you have diabetes?
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: No, I do not have diabetes. I'm just watching.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 10: You've been talking about this Coke and this for quite
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 10: a while.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 15: I do not have.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 10: It sounds like you have to watch your sugar intake.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: I don't have diabetes. I'm just watching.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 10: But you have to watch your sugar intake.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to have less sugar intake. Yes, that's a.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 10: Good thing for your health.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: I don't have diabetes.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 10: Here's a novel idea. Don't buy it.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: No, I want to have it occasionally. Part of life
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: is enjoying some things in your life. Do you occasionally
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: have a pop? Yes or no?
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 7: A pop?
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 10: Oh, nearly.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 8: Okay, but you do.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 10: I have a granddaughter that comes over once in a while,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 10: and she likes to have a Coke, and my son
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 10: yells at me because I give her a Coke.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: All right, but do you.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 10: But I might have something in the house here once
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 10: in a while.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 8: Exactly.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 10: I'm not saying that, but I'm just... The way you
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 10: talk about it, it sounds like that you have a
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 10: problem with this sugar situation. I think your wife is
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 10: all new about it. And you're not really paying attention.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: I am paying attention to it. I go get my physicals.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: They take the blood. And I am not a diabetic.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: My sugar is higher than it should be. My doctor
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: would like it to be lower. So I started taking
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: what's called metformin that lowers your sugar. And I haven't
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: been drinking a lot of pop at all. is what
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: I'm saying to you. If I have an occasional one,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: my wife thinks you're much better off having, my wife
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: does not, has never been a believer in margarine. She
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: thinks the real thing is better. Butter's better than margarine.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: And for example, if I have a Coke or she
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: has a Coke, she would rather have a Coke that
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: has cane sugar in it, not corn syrup and that
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff. So it's not like we're slugging them
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: down every day. Now, and I don't drink a lot
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: of beer. Occasionally I'll have a beer and I'll have
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: this Michelob Ultra, which has less carbs in it.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 7: I thought you.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 10: Were to be a yingling guy.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: No, I know. I am not. So it's this Michelob
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: Ultra that has less carbs, and it's a good beer.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: And she is basically, when she brings beer to the house,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: because she's in charge of supplies, she brings that in,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: and it's very good. So I'm on the right path here, okay?
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: A guy like you, though, is raising my blood pressure
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: because you're... I'm.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 10: Not trying to do that.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 8: Yes, you are.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 24: I am.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 10: I am elated. I'm just elated that you hit the
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 10: nail right on the head, finally. You're talking about something
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 10: that I've been pushing for the past 10 years. That's
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 10: why our taxes are sky high. These people are paying
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 10: their fair share.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: Right. I'm on it, okay? Your phone is distorted. You've
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: got to turn down the.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 10: I've got a speakerphone here.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: All right. I've got to go. All right. Because I've
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: had enough of you.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 10: Okay, goodbye.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: Goodbye. You think this is easy? I'm on the verge
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: of a nervous breakdown. You're on the air.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 14: Yeah, run.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: How about down to Steel Mill State?
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 23: Give them that land to build the AI zone.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: I'm not forgiving them anything. I mean, if it's the
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: right amount of land and works out, I'm not opposed
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: to it.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 6: Oh, that's his voice.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: They're going down there in the Mahoney River.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 14: It's right there.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not opposed to it.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 7: I just thought... All right, you're doing.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: Too much thinking. You're on the air.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 14: Ron, how you doing?
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 6: Good.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 14: Hey, you know what?
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 5: Here's my opinion. I hate to be derogative or whatever, but...
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 5: I think the AI centers are going to pay off
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 5: all the criminals that are involved in our government around
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: this area and buy them all off and screw the
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 5: taxpayers because they're going to get paid under the table.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: We ain't going to know nothing about it. We ain't
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 5: going to have no say so about it. And the
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 5: taxpayer is going to get screwed as usual. That's what
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 5: I think is going to happen with these AI centers.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but look at all of it. Before you make
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  Speaker 2: an assumption like that, look at all the input you
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: had on this new $ 60 million project to buy Eastern
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: Gateway and rip it down and build the new governments. Oh,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: wait a minute. You didn't have any input on that
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: at all. No, I didn't either. As a matter of fact,
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  Speaker 2: they didn't ask you anything other than you're going to
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  Speaker 2: get the bill and you're going to get the debt.
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  Speaker 2: You might be right about that.
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  Speaker 5: I think I'm dead right about it, because if they
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  Speaker 5: did that to that, what do you think they're going
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 5: to do with the AI centers?
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  Speaker 7: That's my point.
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  Speaker 16: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, these people do stuff like the county commissioners decide, oh,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to do this. It's a lousy location. There's
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: no parking. But we're going to put your county in
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: debt and stick you with the tab, even if we
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: vote you out of office. office we're going to do
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: all of that because we know what's best for you
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: this is the arrogance of of those people so you're
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: saying that they'll have the same arrogance and doing this
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: stuff and screw me as well.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, they're all a bunch of crooks.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 5: They're all in there for the paychecks, and they get
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 5: bribed and paid off, and they screw the taxpayers. That's
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 5: my point on the whole thing, Rob. We're always going
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 5: to get screwed because we don't have that many honest
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 5: people that look out for the taxpayer people.
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  Speaker 7: That's what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you got Dave Thomas doing it from his estate rep,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you.
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  Speaker 5: Well, yes, I agree with that.
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  Speaker 2: fearless leader from the kingdom. of Mahoney here on a
• 1:29:43
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  Speaker 2: So the podcast issue looks like it has been solved.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: I just want to make that announcement. The big boss
• 1:29:55
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• 1:30:03
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• 1:30:06
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• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: some of them, we were having some technical problems. I'm
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: just going to be straightforward with you. And some of
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: them would appear on our Facebook page.
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  Speaker 13: Okay.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: You could always access them on our Facebook page, but
• 1:30:21
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• 1:30:25
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• 1:30:30
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• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: all of them, who took.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, so your voices are heard. We appreciate you listening.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you listening to the live broadcast. And I
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: appreciate those of you that have to listen to the podcast.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: I genuinely appreciate it. Listen, I'm working my best for you.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: And I sit here and I say this on a
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: regular basis. I want the best for all of you.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter whether you agree or disagree with me.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: I think we're all getting shortchanged in many ways. And
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: I talk about this on a regular basis to all
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: of you. I think you deserve better public servants. I
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: think many of these people are in it for a paycheck,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: in it for notoriety or their ego or whatever it is.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: They're not public servants. And it's few and far between
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: that I can find over my 41 years on this
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: radio station of people that fall into that category. Ralph Meacham,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: I believe, is a public servant. Dave Thomas is a
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: public servant. I mean, there are few, and Pat Giannetti's
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: a public servant. I think there are few and far
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: between that you find people that go beyond your expectations.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: And it's refreshing that you always leave people out. But
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: there's very few of them that fall into that category.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: And I understand why you get frustrated. Believe me, I
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: do as well. You deserve better than this. And that's
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: why I say, I'm against all tax abatements for any
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: business coming here. Pay your fair share. You're using our services.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: Don't stick it on the homeowners. AI centers should come
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: here with ramifications that I gave you because I want
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: to see your tax bill lowered, not increased. And I
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: want to see electric bills go down. That's why I
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: try to explain to you what's going on as far
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: as electricity is concerned. Anyway, we'll come back with more.
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  Speaker 2: I was just sitting here during the break. 505, incidentally.
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  Speaker 2: Ron Verb from the Kingdom of Mahoning on this Wednesday,
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  Speaker 2: September 23rd. 70 degrees. A pleasant Wednesday out there for
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  Speaker 2: a change. It isn't raining for a change. That's kind
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: of nice. And let's see. On Saturday, September 26th. That's
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: three days from today. this radio station turns 100 years old.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: That's the birthday of WKBN Radio. It's officially 100 years
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: old on Saturday, which is quite an impressive accomplishment. It
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: really is. So on Friday, I.
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  Speaker 6: Think.
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  Speaker 2: I was talking to a buddy, Tim, who's worked at
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: the station. He should join me to talk a little
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: bit about our history. And I got to think about,
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to, I don't know if.
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  Speaker 23: J.D.
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  Speaker 2: Williamson's going to be in town on Friday or not.
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  Speaker 2: One of the founding family members of this great radio station,
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: his father, His father and then his brother Bud and J.D.,
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  Speaker 2: the Williamson's family. As this radio station turns 100 on Sunday.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: which is a hell of an accomplishment. And I'm honored
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: to say that I've been here for 41 on the
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  Speaker 2: air of this radio station for 41 years of the 100.
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  Speaker 2: And that's been an honor for me. Through the Williamson's
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  Speaker 2: owned it, then it was J.Core bought it, then Clear
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  Speaker 2: Channel and iHeart. So it's been through numerous owners over
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  Speaker 2: the period of time. And things have changed and technology
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: has changed and times have changed. But over the period
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: of time, I will tell you that this radio station
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: and its great signal has always had a huge listening audience.
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  Speaker 2: And for that, we are so thankful to each and
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: every one of you. And each and every one of
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  Speaker 2: those people that were stewards of it during that hundred years,
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  Speaker 2: each and every one of them, that had a genuine
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: love for radio and for broadcasting and for everything that
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: this station can be. Now, and I'll get into some
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: of this on Friday when I'll talk about it more. But,
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, basically the talk format on this radio station
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: started because of Pete Gabriel, God rest his soul. It
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: was the vision of Pete Gabriel. And I tell this
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: story often. I tell it Friday. Pete Gabriel worked with
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: Rush Limbaugh when Rush Limbaugh was a disc jockey in
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: Kansas City. So Pete Gabriel knew Rush Limbaugh before the
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: country knew Rush Limbaugh and before Rush Limbaugh became a
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: talk show host. Which I think is kind of... That
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: alone to me is very interesting. You know, I find that...
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 2: I find that... Really kind of cool. But Pete Gabriel
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  Speaker 2: really put this format together in.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 6: I'd.
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  Speaker 2: Have to think about it. I think in 84. I
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: have to think about when I started. 41 years ago,
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: he put it together. And– Hell of a program director.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: Hell of a guy that was visionary for this radio,
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  Speaker 2: for what he put together on this radio station over
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: the years. So I'll get into all of this on
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: Friday and how he put it all together. And really,
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: it's with a lot of love that I can talk
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: about Pete and his legacy. And so many of the
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: great stewards over that time. And I'll get into them
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: and their names. And who knows? Maybe they'll come to
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: Come and show up and contribute to our program. That'll
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: be Friday. I'd like to see, you know, see if
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: Dan Rivers stops by. Obviously, that's an open invitation to
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: him if he's not busy golfing. But, you know, Dan's
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: been here a long time. He was on here a
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: long time here. And so, anyway, that's kind of my
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: plans for Friday because it's– cue you in on a
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: lot of the history of the radio station. And let
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: you know some of the stuff that maybe you don't know.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: Some of the inside stories over the years of this
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: great radio station. As we celebrate 100 years on Saturday officially,
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: but I'm going to hold my own little party here
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: in the studio on Friday. And you're cordially invited. You
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: should bring a gift, incidentally. All right. You're on the air.
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  Speaker 14: Hello.
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  Speaker 9: Ron, I disagree with you from part of your earlier
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 9: statement about some of these data centers. I don't think
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  Speaker 9: it's economically feasible for some of these major companies to
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 9: not get these tax abatements. And I'm talking about like
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 9: the Amazon, Facebook, Google. It sounds funny to say, but
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 9: they have a fiduciary obligation to their shareholders. So they
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  Speaker 9: need to build these data centers for as cheap as
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  Speaker 9: they possibly can with forward guidance of future earnings being
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 9: as much as they possibly can to get their stock
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 9: price up. And they're all racing to win AI. And
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 9: it sounds crazy to say these trillion-dollar companies can't economically
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 9: do it, but I think this is such a hyper-competitive
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 9: field that they are squeezing to the margins to the
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  Speaker 9: 10th degree that The average listener, I don't think we
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 9: even really comprehend what they're doing on the back end here.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 9: And I think that the tax abatements versus where the
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 9: energy is, I get where some of the callers are
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 9: coming from and saying, you know, they'll just move wherever
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 9: they can get the best price.
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  Speaker 2: What happened? Okay, there you are. I'm still here.
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  Speaker 14: I don't think we should give the farm away.
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  Speaker 9: I don't think we should have these abatements. But I
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 9: think time is going to tell which plan is the
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 9: best one. Is it better to get them here and
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 9: get them built to get whatever jobs that we can't
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 9: get out of them?
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  Speaker 2: No, pause for just a second. I go back to say,
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: I say it to you again. We are a great
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: location for it because of our weather and because of
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: our water as a result of the steel mills. Let's
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: not give it away. I mean, why is it that
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: we should sell AWS and Amazon, one of the richest
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: guys on the planet, and company? You need locations. You
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: come here. You can pay. It's not going to be
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: that many jobs. I mean, construction jobs, yes, but jobs
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: that operate on a regular basis once it's built is
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: going to be like a huge number. But it's better
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: than nothing. But I want to say this to you.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: Why shouldn't they pay for the services, the fire department,
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: the police departments, the school system, in the community in
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: which they're located, the entire time as a homeowner has
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: to do? And if they can't do that?
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 9: I'm not disagreeing with you one bit.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: And what I'm saying to you is what I want
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: to talk to Dave Thomas about, and I'll verify it,
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: is there shouldn't be a tax abatement anywhere in the
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: state of Ohio. Anywhere in the state of Ohio because
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: it is wrong. What I'm trying to do is say
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: you pay your property taxes and guess what? Alex, homeowner
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: taxes will be reduced because on fixed levies that can
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: only generate so much, which is a majority of your
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: property tax, they will absorb a lot of that burden
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: and your amount should go down. That's what I'm saying.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: And if they want tax abatements, then screw you. I'm
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: not interested in them. I am not interested what they
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: did in Texas. Now, I'm going to ask you, in
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: 60 minutes, 30 years, 90% tax abatement. You think that's
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: even going to be around 30 years from now when
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: they potentially could pay property taxes? I doubt it.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 14: Reclaiming my time. Reclaiming my time.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 7: Yes, sir.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 9: Yeah, Ron, 30 years from now, will the same GPUs
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 9: be running in that huge building? Probably not. But are
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 9: they going to replace them?
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 14: Yes.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 9: The AI data to them and.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 9: Memory is like water, oil, and air.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 14: To us all combined, okay?
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 9: We think there's an oil shortage. We think there's a
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 9: water shortage and an air shortage. The AIs need that
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 9: more than anything.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 14: These are going to be plentiful.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 9: It's not like they're going to build 10 of these
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 9: and be done.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 14: There are going to be so many data centers throughout
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 14: the whole country.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 9: I don't even think we necessarily need to argue about it.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 9: I think this is going to be a case of
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 9: the second mouse gets the cheese, meaning the Let's see
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 9: what happens first.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 14: I don't know.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 9: Like I said, if you give it away, can we
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 9: look back five years from now and say, man, if
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 9: we would have gained.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 14: The tax, we would have gotten a lot of jobs.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 9: I don't have a crystal ball.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 14: I can't see that.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 9: I'm just trying to place both sides of the coin here.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 9: What I'd like to know from Dave Thomas is, what
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 9: is going on with Stargate and out at Lordstown? I
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 9: haven't heard anything about that.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 5: Nothing.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 9: What's going on there? Are they doing anything? Where are
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 9: they at with everything?
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 8: Are they practicing?
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 9: Are they even running anything there? I would like to
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 9: know where it's at. I would like to also see
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 9: if you can reach out to Dane Davis and see
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 9: what's going on there, just from his point of view
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 9: with everything. I think he's always got a wonderful insight.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 9: I know it's hard to get ahold of him, but
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 9: I think he would be another great one to talk
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 9: to and see what's going on from an economic standpoint.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 9: I think both people are great to talk to and
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 9: see what's going on, but I just don't know if
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 9: we understand from an economic business perspective of these companies.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 9: Because again, all of the stock prices keep going up
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 9: for all these companies like dot parabolic but they never
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 9: put any of these billions of dollar data centers on
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 9: any other balance sheets because they're not the one taking
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 9: the loan that these people are either trillion dollar companies
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 9: for a reason they didn't get lucky with what they're
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 9: doing they know what they're doing they go out of
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 9: play the game we hope there are politicians are wise
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 9: enough to take care of the citizens that you know
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 9: are both them in the office but at the same
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 9: time do you let these things go Do you hope
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 9: that more data centers come down the road?
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 14: The best case scenario would be we hold our ground.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 9: We don't take any of these 30-year tax abatements. And then, sure,
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 9: maybe five years from now when the data centers are
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 9: already built up everywhere else and they need to build more,
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 9: maybe we have better cards in our hand. And we
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 9: could say, yeah, you could build them down on the
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 9: Mahoning River. You're not getting any tax abatements. And anybody
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 9: who lives in the Mahoning County doesn't pay an energy bill.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 9: I have no clue. But I just think there's so
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 9: much more to the story that we're not really talking about.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 16: About.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 9: Will there still be the data center in 30 years?
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 9: Unless the world ends, there's going to be way more
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 9: of them. Now, I don't know if Elon Musk will
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 9: be building them in space at that time, and the
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 9: ones on Earth will be obsolete. I can't really think
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 9: that far in advance, and that doesn't really concern me
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 9: at this point in time.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: I was just trying to research. A guy was telling
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: me over the weekend that Amazon built a big facility
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: somewhere around Lodi and abandoned it. And you know what
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: that building is today?
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 14: What's that?
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: It's empty. So let me just put it this way.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: The guy that was telling me this is an engineer.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: So I don't know the specifics of it. But he
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: was saying, and he's a smart dude, he was basically saying,
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: as technology goes on and you build these gigantic facilities
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: for these AI centers, and when they're done with them,
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: the building almost becomes useless because it's too big for
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: anything else. It's too big for someone else to move
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 2: into it. So now what happens with all of these facilities?
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: So there's that possibility. I'm just putting it out there.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: But the reality is they should pay their– if you
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: want here, what is wrong with me to say in
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: the state of Ohio, you know how pissed I got
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: when I heard DeWine waive the sales tax for AI
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: centers so that they could go buy their stuff and
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: they don't pay sales tax? But if you add on
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: to your garage, you got to pay a sales tax.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: That's bullcrap. That is absolute bullcrap.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 3: I completely understand.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 8: These are the richest companies.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 7: Okay, hold on, Ron. Hold on.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 9: Let's say, okay, let's say you're DeWine, and you say, okay, yep,
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 9: you get this tax abatement. If you're the governor of
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 9: the state, any state, all you have to do is
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 9: find one state that will tell you, we'll give you
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 9: the tax abatement, and then you move somewhere else. Again,
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 9: I'm not saying that it's right or wrong.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 14: No, you are.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 24: But if you are the CEO.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 9: of a trillion-dollar company, and your job is to make
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 9: as much money as possible to win the AI race,
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 9: what are you supposed to do? Are you supposed to
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 9: pay the taxpayers in that community their fair share, or
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 9: are you supposed to do what you're supposed to do
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 9: as the CEO of a trillion-dollar company?
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: I am here worried about this community and our taxpayers here.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: And if some other community wants to be stupid and
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: give AI centers tax abatements, then go ahead and be stupid.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: This Mahoning, the area in which I reside in this
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: area in which we broadcast should never, ever do that.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 2: They should never.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 14: We have to do as a community.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 9: We have to understand that we are not going to
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 9: get them then. And I'm not saying ever.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 14: I'm saying right now.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: I don't agree with that. And here's why I don't
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: agree with that.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 9: They're not going to build them here then.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: No, I don't agree with that at all. They will
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 2: build them here for the following reasons. The weather, once again.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 2: The infrastructure that we have. The weather and the infrastructure
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: as far as the energy lines that are needed. That's
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: why Lordstown is a sweet spot. So the energy lines,
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 2: the weather... The water, which we have as a result
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: of the steel mills, a lot of places don't have
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: what we have. They don't have the water. The aquifers
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: can't support it. You want to give all this away.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: They do not have what we have as a result
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: of the steel mills and the lakes that are around here.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 2: The weather that's around here. We don't have to give
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: them tax abatements. You want to come here and build here?
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: We know it's a good location. Pay your property taxes
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: and come here and generate your own electric so we
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: don't have to subsidize you. And tell me how much
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: water you need. Some of these places.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 3: There are no.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 9: There are no solutions.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 14: There are just tradeoffs.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 9: And I'm not saying that we should give it away.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 9: What I'm saying is it's not going to come here
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 9: because they're going to build these other places so that
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 9: they can tell their shareholders and it could be on
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 9: their report.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to give in to it. Okay. So
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: then you want us to be as big a horse
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: as those other places. So we should grant them a 30-year, 90%
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: tax abatement as they did in Texas.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 14: No, no, no.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: I'm not about to do that. If that's your argument,
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: you are saying that. Yes, you are. No.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, you are.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 9: Reclaiming my time.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 14: Yes.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 18: Go ahead.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 14: I'm not saying that.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 9: I'm saying we have to be with the understanding if
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 9: we're not going to succumb to their demand, they're not
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 9: going to come here.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 16: Right.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: I am not succumbing to their demands, and they will
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: still come here. I'm telling you.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 14: Now.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 5: Quickly.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 14: It's the day after the midterms.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 9: What happens the day after?
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 14: Give me both scenarios.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 9: If the Democrats take the House and Senate or if
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 9: the Republicans keep it.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 14: And I'll listen to your response.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: I'll do it tomorrow. Call me with that tomorrow. Let
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: me think.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 25: All right.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: Hello.
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  Speaker 14: So I think there are a few concerns. You made
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 14: a point a minute ago. that these data centers need
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 14: to locate where there's water, power, and land that could
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 14: be used. And that makes that Lordstown site an absolute gem.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 14: The cost of property taxes and sales taxes in the
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 14: overall scheme of the cost of a data center and
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 14: the operating cost of a data center is not material.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 14: So they're coming out to these communities and asking for
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 14: tax abatements just because they could get them. If a
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 14: company's making a decision on whether or not to invest
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 14: based on the existence or lack of of abatements, and
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 14: that's affecting the economics so significantly that the project can't
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 14: go forward, then the project shouldn't go forward because it's
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 14: not economic. But you touched on this decommissioning slash cleanup,
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 14: if you will, right? This restoration of the land. These things,
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 14: you mentioned size, which is important. I think also configuration,
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 14: the amount of power and cooling going into these buildings,
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 14: I believe is going to make them so unique that
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 14: they will never be able to use for other sites.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 14: So when they are obsolete and decommissioned, someone's going to
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 14: get stuck with the albatross. You know, there were millions
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 14: of square feet of industrial buildings in Detroit that companies
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 14: had abandoned and left behind. The government or real estate
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 14: developers following up had to go in and recover all that.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 14: They had to go in and tear those buildings down,
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 14: remediate the environmentalists. You can't set yourself up for that
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 14: with these data centers. And this issue of competing for them, Look,
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 14: they're going everywhere. These people are building data centers so
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 14: fast that they're going everywhere. And I'm telling you, if
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 14: you charged a premium for water, power, and property taxes,
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 14: they would still want to build one in Lordstown as
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 14: long as the funding holds. Alec made a critical point
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 14: on this.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 2: Just as a side note, when my daughter moved to Florida,
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: I went up to her bedroom, I opened the door,
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 2: a data center had moved into her old bedroom.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 15: They're like that.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 14: It's like 10 years ago, migrants in Germany where the
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 14: state would just take over your room and put someone
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 14: in it.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 16: You didn't know.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: There's a data center. I thought there might be a
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 2: dollar general there, but there's a data center in a bedroom.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 14: And I'll tell you, if you've got power, I mean,
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 14: they're tearing up farmland across the country as fast as
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 14: they can destroy it. If that farmland happens to be
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 14: near a power supply or is where a power line
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 14: should be routed to get to one of these data centers.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 14: I mean, these things are being given... Super priority. So
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 14: they overrun your rights, property rights are set aside. I mean,
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 14: we're going full communist China on these things. But here's
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 14: the thing. Alex made the point that these companies don't
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 14: have the assets on their balance sheet. I think that's
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 14: going to be very often true. They also don't have
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 14: the debt on their balance sheet. So they've raised hundreds
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 14: of billions of dollars of debt for these. And much
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 14: of it is what you might call off balance sheet
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 14: because it's actually attached to the data center. The thing
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 14: that makes that important is not only are these companies
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 14: not showing the debt, they're not showing the assets, but
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 14: they also don't actually own them. So you set up
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 14: a data center in a small company. The data center
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 14: has a usage agreement with Google, and Google pays them
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 14: every month. Well, what happens when they don't need that
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 14: data center anymore and Google cuts it off? That data
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 14: center has no other customer. It's simply out of business. Well,
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 14: now who's going to clean up the mess? Because right now,
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 14: just even now, with just the hundreds of billions they've
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 14: already raised in debt, they've affected the credit markets, they've
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 14: driven up returns, and they can't service the debt. Something
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 14: in the neighborhood of half of the debt associated with
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 14: data centers is being paid by issuing new debt, just
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 14: like the government pays for our expenses and our debt
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 14: by issuing new debt, right? They don't have the cash
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 14: flow to service the debt they've got now, and they're
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 14: building at a breakneck pace. This thing is not, they've
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 14: never demonstrated the use case, the financial viability, the economics,
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 14: the need for any.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 15: Of these any of these abatements.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 14: And look, I use AI every day. I also know
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 14: what some of the capabilities are that they're building into
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 14: these things, and they're terrifying. Whenever you ask a question,
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 14: they just say, China, and that's supposed to be the
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 14: one-word answer that solves it. So you're not allowed to
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 14: ask any more questions. I'm telling you, we need to
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 14: understand exactly what these things are doing to the power supply,
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 14: how they are paying higher rates than we are so
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 14: that we don't have to subsidize them. and the utilities
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 14: have the money to build more capacity. But think about this.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 14: They need 24-hour uninterruptible power. That means they take priority
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 14: over all of us. But because the volume of power
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 14: they get, they're going to expect to buy power at
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 14: a lower rate than you pay for your house.
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 2: Stand by.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 15: I'm singing.
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 2: Stand by. Keep that thought. I've got to pause for
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 2: my headlines at 5.30. In other words, they'll cut my
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 2: power off before they can cut theirs off. Stand by.
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 2: We'll pick up with that thought in a minute. G2 Newsradio,
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  Speaker 14: Well, just to kind of pull it all together, right,
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  Speaker 14: there are some things that are really important here. And
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 14: one is that they have not demonstrated a demand model
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 14: that shows these working. They have not demonstrated an ability
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  Speaker 14: to service their current debt or cover their operating costs.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 14: Right now, it's looking like the rollout of AI into
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 14: corporations isn't always yielding the kind of incredible gains they want.
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  Speaker 14: So you're finding that, for example, Ford fired 350 engineers,
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 14: replaced them with AI, and then had to hire them
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 14: all back because AI is not quite as good as
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 14: we think it is. Now, I understand everybody says it's
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 14: going to get better. It'll be much better than humans. Basically,
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 14: we've got to believe everything's better than humans or Americans, right?
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  Speaker 14: But they haven't demonstrated a demand model. They don't have
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 14: the ability to cover their current debt in these on
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 14: and off balance sheet debts that they've taken on for these.
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 14: And so they've got to show, first of all, these
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 14: things are needed and how they're going to be used.
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 14: They have to show that they're going to be able
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 14: to cover the operating costs and not leave these giant
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 14: buildings in your neighborhood having cost a whole bunch of
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 14: money to the community. There should never be a tax
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 14: abatement of any kind, period, because they're building them everywhere.
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 14: And it's more important that you get access to water, land,
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 14: and power than anything else. So if you can get
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 14: one-sided there, charge them a premium for water, land, and
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 14: power to offset the demand that they're bringing to the
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 14: community so you can then rebuild your infrastructure around water
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 14: and power. Then you have to make sure that not
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 14: only can they cover their operating costs, but this thing
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 14: called Moore's Law, where... You know, if you think about
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 14: your phones, they last longer now, but there was a
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 14: time when they would be obsolete, I don't know, in 12,
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 14: 18 months maybe. Now they go a few more years.
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  Speaker 14: But think about the form factor for computers. What you
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 14: used to buy that was maybe a desktop or a
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 14: tower that was two feet high and, you know, eight
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 14: inches across or 12 inches across is now the size
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 14: of a VHS tape or something like that. That constant
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 14: reduction in size, that constant increase in power that came
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 14: with a reduction in size, is going to hit this industry.
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 14: So when they implement and start up an AI data center,
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 14: it will be obsolete the day it is constructed. It's
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 14: already going to be obsolete. So they're going to have
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 14: to have a program to constantly upgrade it, even to
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 14: keep it going. Let's say you go 36 months, and
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 14: the chip advancement, the cooling system improvements, and so on,
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 14: make it even more obsolete. Well, now what do you
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 14: end up with? Again, if it's not owned by OpenAI
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 14: or Microsoft.
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 2: What was that? Hello?
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 14: Joe's local data center, right? Well, what's the financing for
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 14: the little LLC that owns this thing? And can they
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 14: service their debt without the contract with Microsoft? And the
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 14: answer is typically, probably not. So if Microsoft or OpenAI
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 14: or one of these people can simply cancel their supply
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 14: agreement with that data center... and walk away, that thing's done.
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 14: It's bankrupt.
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  Speaker 2: So basically, like this 60 Minutes deal, when they said
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 2: it was, they come, first of all, they don't even
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 2: announce who, it was interesting on 60 Minutes, who the
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 2: person is that wants to buy all this land and
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 2: build this data center. If you saw 60 Minutes, they
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 2: had to find out that it was actually Amazon. Or AWS,
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 2: I guess, would be proper. That's behind it. But Amazon
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 2: basically will have a separate division where they lease the
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 2: building from that particular separate entity for their AI center.
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 2: And then when they're done with it or it's obsolete...
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 2: they'll declare bankruptcy and walk away from it. Interesting that
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 2: you're saying this because I was talking to a smart guy,
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 2: an engineering guy over the weekend that was talking about
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 2: some of this. He said, there's a lot of large
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 2: Amazon facilities, warehouses that are sitting empty in the country that,
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 2: that basically don't have a use. They're so, they're so large,
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 2: you can't do anything with them. And you're saying the
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 2: same thing will potentially happen with these AI centers and
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 2: who's going to be responsible for tearing them down. Other
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 2: than the taxpayer. Correct? Did I lose him? I might
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 2: have lost him. His satellite phone dropped out there for
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 2: a second. All right, come back. Are you hearing me?
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know what happened to him.
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  Speaker 14: There we go.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry. All right. Yeah, there was interference on your satellite
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 2: connection there for just a little bit. But you see,
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, so this engineer is making the same argument
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 2: you're making, saying, hey, it's going to be a bunch
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 2: of empty places. But, I mean, you know they want
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 2: to be here. By the way, in one of them
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  Speaker 2: I was reading where they said the amount of water
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 2: being used, they said it would be like one million
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 2: and something gallons, is way off how much they ended
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 2: up actually needing, which was significantly more than that.
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  Speaker 14: Oh, yeah. It's... A lot of these estimates are not
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 14: showing up to be correct. And so you're really just
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 14: getting trapped. You're getting trapped where you're going to have
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 14: this giant white elephant that the community is going to
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 14: have to shoulder.
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  Speaker 15: The burden for. Of course, they'll have all.
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 14: The tax abatements that they can wring.
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 15: Out of a community because we owe that to the trillionaires.
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 14: And then it's not just size, but it's also going
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 14: to be designed like a hospital facility. You just can't
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 14: take a hospital and repurpose it as a warehouse. Hospitals
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 14: are custom-made.
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 15: You can't even.
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 14: Repurpose them now as hospitals because they can't meet modern
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 14: requirements for running oxygen lines in any way that's going
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 14: to be efficient in an old hospital building.
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 15: So they have to build hospitals from scratch. But you're
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 15: not going to repurpose it into a hotel. It's going
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 15: to be like that.
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 14: So decommissioning and reclamation of the property is going to
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 14: be a major expense that has.
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 15: To be pre-financed. They have to have that money in advance.
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 14: And if it is, in fact, structure you just described,
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 14: which ends up being a little single-purpose company that just
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 14: owns that data center but may have $ 6.
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 15: Billion of debt, and it's going to go bankrupt.
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 14: Well, that's going to come back on us. Because the
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 14: banks aren't eating that.
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 7: We are.
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 14: Credit markets will be in very, very great distress if
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 14: that happens. So these deals have to be structured where
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 14: the asset can be decommissioned and the debt isn't isolated
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 14: to what.
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 15: Will soon be an obsolete.
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 14: Technical asset that that no longer serves its purpose. And
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 14: it's just a halt on the horizon. It's not so easy.
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 14: And every time we rush like this, and nobody answers
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 14: any questions but for saying things like China, we end
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 14: up in trouble.
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 2: And that's what they say. Well, we can't drop the ball.
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 2: It's China. It's China. China's going to beat us to
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 2: the game. And they're going to... Whoever somehow gets there first.
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 2: Dominates the globe, I guess is what they're saying.
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 14: Right, but we're building these hyperscale centers in places where
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 14: it's clear they don't have the water. Do you know
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 14: what that means? That means they're going to take all
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 14: the water and the citizens are going to have to move.
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 2: Or it means they're going to use a lot of
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 2: the water and the citizens are going to pay, as
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 2: we've seen in some of these areas. What happens? Their
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 2: electric bills go through the roof and their water bills
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 2: go through the roof.
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 14: And that would be more the scene for Lordstown, where
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 14: they're looking at that meander reservoir and saying, hey, if
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 14: we could hook a pipe into that thing, we're going
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 14: to have excellent water supply. And if we could buy
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 14: it at industrial rates, we're probably going to pay less
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 14: than the lady in the trailer park across the street.
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 2: As long as you would have to verify what are
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 2: you using the water for, and when you're done with it,
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 2: what condition is the water in?
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 14: Right, yeah, they'll have to be all of those normal things,
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 14: but they're consuming so much, and a lot of it's
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 14: going to end up evaporating if they've got evaporation cooling.
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 14: So I think this is fraught with peril, and it's
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 14: not like we can stop the technology, but we have
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 14: to be thoughtful. And, of course, now the open AIs
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 14: and the Palantirs and all these guys are.
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 15: Saying, hey, listen, this stuff's out of control.
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 14: We need regulations. protected and the government have to get
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 14: involved in fact the palantir guy is calling for nationalization
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 14: of the a i company you know why because they
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 14: can't service their debts they can cover their operating costs
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 14: already without the just where they are today and they
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 14: want regulatory uh... protections to keep them from being competed
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 14: with in other words they want at this current in
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 14: our in our economy they want to transition From a
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 14: free market, build what you want, take the risks, to
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 14: you build it, we'll protect you because we're the taxpayer
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 14: and we'll pay anything we gotta pay to make sure
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 14: you're all right. You know, remember, Amazon would have never
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 14: survived without the service agreements from the CIA and other
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 14: government agencies. It wasn't privately financed entirely. When it had
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 14: no ability to cover its operating costs and it was
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 14: eating up the competition, it couldn't raise prices and keep
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 14: eating the competition. So they created Amazon Web Services, and
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 14: the government, like the CIA and others, got huge, multibillion-dollar
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 14: contracts in there. And that's what kept Amazon alive as
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 14: Main Street got devoured. So they're looking at that model,
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 14: and they're saying, hey, we need that, too. We need
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 14: a moat around these businesses, a regulatory moat. We need
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 14: financial protections because we can't service the debt. And we
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 14: want to make sure that we don't have– we want
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 14: to get to this too-big-to-fail position. Because the numbers don't work.
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 14: There's no model with a valuation of these companies at
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 14: $ 800 billion or trillion. These valuations are unsupportable by any
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 14: model anyone can see at this point.
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 2: It's going to be interesting. Interesting days ahead, to say
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 2: the least. Yes, it is.
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 14: It's going to be fascinating to watch this unfold. And then,
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 14: of course, there's the issue of what are these things
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 14: actually for? Because the collection of data... that, say, Google's
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 14: been doing now for, what is it, 20 years, that
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 14: they monetize through advertising, they sell to governments, they sell
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 14: to corporations, that is going to now take on an
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 14: entirely different nature. Because, obviously, these data centers are going
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 14: to have the capability to create what we call the
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 14: digital control grid in a way that we've never seen
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 14: in this country, in a way that Nikolai Ceausescu, Shakira Tate,
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 14: could only dream of.
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 6: I mean.
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 14: It's going to be... There's a very serious freedom issue
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 14: here as well.
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 2: You think Zelensky's getting an ass-chewing from Trump?
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 14: As long as Ursula von der Leyen and all the
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 14: warmongers are protecting him, he doesn't yet care what Trump thinks. Right?
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 16: I mean.
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 14: Well, we've been telling him.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he disobeyed him when it came to knocking
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 2: out the energy infrastructure in Russia. Zelensky's escalating this situation.
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 14: Yeah, but remember, Zelensky can't do any of that on
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 14: his own. That's NATO, and it's Ursula von der Leyen,
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 14: and it's Macron, it's all these Europeans that are captured
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 14: by the globalists who want to get us into that
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 14: physical war with Russia. If I was Russia... When they,
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 14: after they attack the energy infrastructure, I would have just
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 14: simply removed Kib from the planet. I would have just
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 14: finished the war. I would have taken it out. Russia's
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 14: not doing that because they know that NATO, which is
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 14: supposed to be our thing, isn't. They know that NATO
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 14: is standing by waiting to come in. They want to
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 14: get the United States to commit forces because they cannot
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 14: get Germans and Frenchmen to go fight Russians. So, you know,
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 14: Zelensky doesn't care what Trump says as long as the
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 14: globalists are standing behind him, feeding him money, and making
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 14: sure that NATO is providing him with all the support
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 14: he needs to destroy Russian infrastructure. I mean, this is
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 14: power and energy infrastructure. At the time that the Strait
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 14: is closed and diesel fuel is in tight supply, jet
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 14: fuel is in tight supply, and gasoline is in tight supply,
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 14: doing that has been an economic disaster for the world.
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 14: And yet they did it. And they did the same
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 14: thing with the gas line. You know, this was really,
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 14: really stupid. But I guess it depends on your perspective.
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 14: If your goal is to undermine Western society and conquer
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 14: Russia in the process, and you want to get the
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 14: United States to be your idiot that runs in and
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 14: fights everybody, you know, we're just a club that they
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 14: drag in and make us beat everybody, then this makes
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 14: total sense.
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 2: So the midterms are... are a ways off. Everybody talks
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 2: about it. It's a ways off yet. Do you think
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 2: the Republicans keep both houses?
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 14: No. No, I don't think there's a chance of that
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 14: at this point.
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 2: Then that's a disaster.
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 14: Oh, yeah, I think the nation's in deep distress. We're
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 14: in real trouble here. I mean, it's so funny to watch.
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 2: Is that not what you said at the very beginning
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 2: of this situation? Did you not say on this very
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 2: broadcast that obviously you were opposed to the war from
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 2: the very beginning? And did you not say it can
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 2: take away from the American agenda and lead us to
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 2: this situation where his two years are just wasted now
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 2: because of the Democrats running the show?
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 14: Oh, I did say that. And if you go even
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 14: further back to January 25, when Congress took its first recess,
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 14: and I said, wait a minute, we're in the first
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 14: hundred days. They should be taking every executive order and
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 14: writing a bill at the top and submitting it to
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 14: Congress and getting it passed through both chambers.
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 2: Not done.
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 14: And they didn't. They went on vacation. They're on vacation now.
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 14: You know, the Republicans in Congress laid the groundwork for
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 14: losing the midterms beginning in January 25th. The Warren Iran
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 14: and the Epstein files are the other two big fractures
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 14: that have done irreparable harm to the coalition that got
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 14: Trump elected. And, you know, the fact of the matter is,
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 14: as much as we aren't happy about gasoline, if you
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 14: go to California, it's... It's 15, 619 right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but even if you forget gasoline, do you want
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  Speaker 2: to go back to the sexual agenda? Do you want
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  Speaker 2: to go back to the open borders? Do you want
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  Speaker 2: to go back to the– they hate energy. They hate
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  Speaker 2: fossil fuels. They've said it. Do you want to go
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  Speaker 2: back to everything that existed that Trump at least fixed
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  Speaker 2: a lot of it? Do you want to go back
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  Speaker 2: and throw– fuel on that fire? Oh, God.
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  Speaker 14: Well, exactly. I mean, think about this. If Trump had won,
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  Speaker 14: if Harris would have been put in place, and they
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  Speaker 14: went forward with the same agenda they had under Biden,
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  Speaker 14: gas is 619 right now in California. What would it
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  Speaker 14: have been across the country? They would have finished draining
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  Speaker 14: the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. They would have had policies in
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  Speaker 14: place that would have made it outrageous to electricity costs
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  Speaker 14: would be substantially higher because they would have continued to
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  Speaker 14: tear out power plants. And, I mean, it would have
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  Speaker 14: been a disaster across the board. But people forget that
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  Speaker 14: because they go to the pump every week and see,
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  Speaker 14: what is it, $ 3. 99 to $ 4. 59, and they're just losing
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  Speaker 14: their minds. And I understand that. You know, it's hard
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  Speaker 14: to keep that and, you know, to ignore that.
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  Speaker 2: But don't forget about what the Democrats stand for. Don't
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  Speaker 2: forget about it.
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  Speaker 14: Oh, they'll be chasing your kids around real soon. I mean,
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  Speaker 14: they never gave up on the woke agenda. They just
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  Speaker 14: stopped being able to execute it. All right.
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  Speaker 2: I'll let you go. I've got to take a few
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  Speaker 2: calls that have been on hold before I wrap it up.
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  Speaker 16: Thanks.
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  Speaker 2: All right, G2. Bye-bye. NewsRadio 570, WKBN. Callers online, stand by.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get you on right after the break. We're here
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  Speaker 2: until 6, so we're going to move quickly. But if
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  Speaker 2: you've been on hold, I'll make sure I get to
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  Speaker 2: you and get your two cents in. Ron Furp from
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  Speaker 2: the Kingdom of Mahoney on this Wednesday evening, September 23rd,
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  Speaker 2: 68 degrees. Cool days and cool nights here in the
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  Speaker 2: Kingdom of Mahoney. I heart radio.
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  Speaker 1: Youngstown's news, weather, and talk station, 570 WKBN. Move along
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  Speaker 1: quickly here.
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  Speaker 2: You're on air. Hello.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, Ron, it's Nick.
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  Speaker 5: It's Nick.
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  Speaker 3: Good.
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  Speaker 13: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 15: I just wanted to call.
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  Speaker 24: I don't call in that much anymore because I get
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  Speaker 24: so frustrated listening to you guys. You know, but I
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  Speaker 24: just wanted to say that JJ, who the last six,
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  Speaker 24: seven times I've.
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  Speaker 7: Heard him, has directly made a....
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  Speaker 24: Suffering from NDS, Nick Derangement Syndrome.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 24: No matter how much he judges, he's not a Trumper.
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  Speaker 24: If he's a Trumper, I'm voting, I'm going to try
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  Speaker 24: to get Harris elected if he's a Trump supporter. I
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  Speaker 24: don't want him, nothing to do with Trump, okay? Guy's
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  Speaker 24: a mental midget.
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  Speaker 7: You pacify him, you coddle him. He drives me nuts. Okay?
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  Speaker 24: Tell him to get over the TDS. I don't want
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  Speaker 24: to live rent-free in his head, 365, 724. I'll bring
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 24: it up. It seems I'm doing now.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 14: He can't go on. Okay?
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  Speaker 24: The anti-Semite Frank from Florida, this guy calls and reads
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  Speaker 24: to you. I can't stand to.
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  Speaker 3: Listen to him.
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  Speaker 24: All he does is read articles to you. He can't just...
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  Speaker 24: you know, pronounce them, and that's him himself, he's got
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  Speaker 24: to read them.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 24: And the guy on Fifth Avenue drives me nuts. He
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  Speaker 24: thinks he's part of a Democratic Party. It's 50, 60
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  Speaker 24: years ago. He better look at what the party is
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  Speaker 24: right now. It's the Islamists and the Communists. That's the
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  Speaker 24: Democratic Party. And I'm going to say one more thing.
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  Speaker 24: Everybody said, oh, Nick, you're crazy. But, you know, you
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  Speaker 24: say yourself repeatedly, daily, all Iran has to do is survive.
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  Speaker 24: That's all they have to do to win is survive.
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  Speaker 24: And if they would have did what I wanted to do,
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  Speaker 24: they wouldn't have survived. And we'd be on our way
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  Speaker 24: to winning the House and the Senate and not worried
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  Speaker 24: about a thing, about the communists.
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  Speaker 3: Taking over our country.
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  Speaker 10: Okay?
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  Speaker 24: Everybody thought it was crazy. We have a nuclear weapon
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  Speaker 24: that would have destroyed that country in 24 hours. Destroyed it.
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  Speaker 7: And we didn't use it.
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  Speaker 3: We're sitting on it.
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  Speaker 24: We didn't use it. And that's the biggest mistake that
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  Speaker 24: Trump made. Because those people don't even deserve to live
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  Speaker 24: on this planet. The things that they did to the
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  Speaker 24: Jewish people on October 7th, the proxies they support, they
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  Speaker 24: are nothing but trouble. It's like a cancer, and you
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  Speaker 24: have to end it.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Nick. Appreciate it. You're on the air.
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  Speaker 4: Ron, God bless talk radio. I used to listen to
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  Speaker 4: you back in Salem before you were on WKBN, and
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  Speaker 4: I miss being able to call Pete Gabriel, Dan Ryan,
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 4: Dan Rivers, and I pine for the day when I'm
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 4: not going to be able to call you anymore. But
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  Speaker 4: we need to keep that going. There's an interview Dan
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  Speaker 4: Ryan did with Mr. Williamson, talked about Mr. Cole Penny
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  Speaker 4: and them sitting in a building somewhere in Youngstown when
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  Speaker 4: they broadcast First Signal. God bless. But with the data centers,
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  Speaker 4: we need to make them come to us and beg
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  Speaker 4: us for what they want.
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  Speaker 16: Amen.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. You're on air.
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  Speaker 24: Ron, I just changed over the fiber optic today.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, it's so much clearer.
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  Speaker 7: It pops. It's a staccato.
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  Speaker 5: Great.
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  Speaker 2: Call me tomorrow. You're on the air. Hello. You're on
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  Speaker 2: the air.
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  Speaker 7: All right.
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 8: All right.
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  Speaker 2: We make way for it. I think they're coming up next.
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  Speaker 2: Let me see.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we shall see. Coming up, Guardians and more on
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  Speaker 2: NewsRadio 570 WKBN. So stay tuned for that. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's going to be around 630. All right. Ron Verp
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 2: from the Kingdom of Mahoning on NewsRadio 570 WKBN. All
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  Speaker 2: the previous shows, and this one should be up on
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  Speaker 2: the iHeart app. The podcast situation should be resolved. Have
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  Speaker 2: a good night. We'll see you tomorrow.