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Popping Off: The Valley Season Finale · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, this is Teddy Mellencamp and I'm joined by
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Speaker 1: my friend Emily Simpson for our new spinoff show Popping Off,
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Speaker 1: where we are digging deep on this season of vander
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Speaker 1: Pump Rules. Hi guys, welcome to another episode of Popping
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Speaker 1: Off with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and.
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Speaker 2: And Emily Simpson. Thanks for joining us today for the
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Speaker 2: recap of the finale.
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Speaker 1: I the finale of the Valley, which, to be honest,
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Speaker 1: I feel like I know so because it has not
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Speaker 1: aired yet, but because we had Lala on the twat Seat,
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Speaker 1: which will not air until later this week. You guys,
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Speaker 1: there's so much freaking tea. I can't even take it.
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Speaker 2: Oh well, thanks for telling me.
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Speaker 1: Well, I can't give it all to you. Now, You're
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Speaker 1: gonna have to. I know, I know how you are.
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Speaker 1: You're an avid listener of all pods that I do,
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Speaker 1: so I'm sure you'll tune in. But it makes this
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Speaker 1: finale because I rewatched the finale today, it makes it
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Speaker 1: so much juicier.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm gonna have to call you when we're done, yes,
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Speaker 2: and then I'll give you the jews.
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Speaker 1: I mean it is, so if I come in with
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Speaker 1: a different approach when I'm talking about anything. Yeah, now,
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Speaker 1: I know I'm biased. I'm biased for the other information
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Speaker 1: I know. All right, So let's get into headlines. This
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Speaker 1: first one is after the video surfaces of Jack's Taylor
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Speaker 1: changing his child's diaper. I'm guessing on his bar at Jacks's.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, But my question is is that because Jasmine
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Speaker 2: posted it? Like Jasmine got him in trouble?
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Speaker 1: Well? This is also okay. So Jack's studio City recently
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Speaker 1: received several visits from the La County Department of Public
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Speaker 1: Health in response to multiple complaints made by patrons. According
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Speaker 1: to the Sun, the most recent and arguably most disturbing
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Speaker 1: complaint was made to the Department of Public Health in April,
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Speaker 1: claiming the former vander Pumpoules star was changing his baby
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Speaker 1: diaper on top of a bar where food and drinks
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Speaker 1: are served. I need to understand was this happening before
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Speaker 1: they opened?
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know it, said April. So when did
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Speaker 2: he open? No, because they opened when were they filming?
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Speaker 2: He opened while they were filming.
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Speaker 1: Have you ever changed one of your baby's diapers on
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Speaker 1: a bar.
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Speaker 2: I've never even taken my baby into a bar.
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Speaker 1: Have you seen Sweet Home, Alabama? When they're made me
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Speaker 1: think of you have a baby in a bar? That's
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Speaker 1: all I could think of too, And then I was thinking,
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Speaker 1: you know when you walk into like a hotel bar
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Speaker 1: area with your kids, like there's not really an and
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Speaker 1: then they're like, no, your kid actually can't even stand
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Speaker 1: near this area, right.
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Speaker 2: You're like, I'm not trying to have my kid in
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Speaker 2: the bar. I'm trying to just get to my room.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like I'm just going here. But I don't really know.
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Speaker 1: I if multiple people were there while this was changing.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the bar opened in October of twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 1: but we have to be clear Rocos has been open forever.
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Speaker 1: So Rocos is the bar that actually is the bar
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Speaker 1: that's running. And then there's like a little like a sidebars,
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Speaker 1: like a little something about her awning, Yeah where his
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Speaker 1: bar is?
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Speaker 2: Right? So I don't know, Okay, But the question is
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Speaker 2: it says there's several complaints, So the baby on the
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Speaker 2: bar with the diaper changing is not the only complaint.
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Speaker 2: There were other ones as well, unrelated to diapers.
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Speaker 1: And do we think that Jasmine did this on purpose
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Speaker 1: to cause.
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean it said her caption. When she put
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Speaker 2: this video in her Instagram story, it said the caption
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Speaker 2: was adulting, so I mean she probably didn't mean to, but.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't know. I don't necessarily if
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Speaker 1: no one was at the bar at that point in time.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that I would really care if somebody
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Speaker 1: was changing their dipe, like I've changed my kid's diaper,
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Speaker 1: like on the floor, like in a desperate situation, like
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Speaker 1: oh shoot, we've had a blow out. Here we go.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna lay down, like You're gonna lay on my
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Speaker 1: purse right now and I'm gonna change you.
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Speaker 2: Okay, but I guess you don't eat off of your purse.
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean I eat things from my purse.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, like.
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Speaker 1: Turkey sandwiches and saunas. Was that what it was in asauna?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Okay, good? But then we have more more involving Jack's IG.
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Speaker 2: User at Reality Ops posted a screenshot at Jacks's first
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Speaker 2: tweet after the Valley season finale aired, and it read,
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Speaker 2: you may want to ask Brittany who she's been sleeping
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Speaker 2: with for the past four months. The next day, Jax
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Speaker 2: posted an IG story of a sun cruise sleeping in
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Speaker 2: his bed. He captioned it never fails. Sleep sideways every night.
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Speaker 2: But in the picture you can clearly see Britney sleeping
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Speaker 2: next to Cruz, implying she stayed the night in their
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Speaker 2: shared home. So the question is was his tweet referring
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Speaker 2: to Brittany sleeping with him?
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Speaker 1: Well, well here's the part.
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Speaker 2: Okay, See, here's the thing. You probably know more about
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Speaker 2: the situation.
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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, So here's what I am guessing. I think
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Speaker 1: that JACKX knows that what I know is about to
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Speaker 1: blow up, and so he wants to make it clear
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Speaker 1: I got my girl back. So that's why he's posting
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Speaker 1: that video. I do think he also posted this after
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Speaker 1: that party that they had at Jack's, the finale watching party?
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Speaker 2: Are you invited to? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Which? I? You know what, For a hot second, I
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Speaker 1: was thinking I was going to go. I was like,
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Speaker 1: I'm you know what I can go. I'm going God
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Speaker 1: all my girlfriends. I'm like, I know that Emily's not here,
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Speaker 1: And then I was like, one, I can't go without Emily,
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Speaker 1: and two like what am I gonna do when I
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Speaker 1: go there? Like go with a notepad?
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Speaker 2: Yeah you would? You are interviewing people. I was like Toddy,
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Speaker 2: You're not one it's.
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Speaker 1: After seven pm start time, and two like this is
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Speaker 1: probably not the best of plans, Like you just you
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Speaker 1: can get your information from Jack's tweets later.
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Speaker 2: Okay, but then, did Jesse not offer to send a
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Speaker 2: limousine to pick you up? I don't understand the limousine.
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Speaker 1: He did offer to send a limousine. I don't actually
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Speaker 1: know if he offered to send me the limousine or
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Speaker 1: that he offered a limousine could take me. But then
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Speaker 1: he said I never go to the valley, so I
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Speaker 1: don't know if he was saying I needed to go
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Speaker 1: to his house to then ride in his.
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Speaker 2: I don't understand the limousine, like that's a good thing.
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Speaker 2: I don't think i'd want to be in a limousine.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think we were joking. Also, because you know
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Speaker 1: the girl that Jack was out with, the one with
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Speaker 1: like the influencer chick with the big.
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Speaker 2: Didn't she send a lemousine to pick him up?
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Speaker 1: Her dad did so her dad sent a lemon. So
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Speaker 1: apparently Jack's and Jesse have met the dad before and say,
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Speaker 1: but the dad wanted to like have them go out together.
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Speaker 1: So I'm guessing to create a moment, but like, if
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Speaker 1: you're going to create a moment with a fan, I'm
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Speaker 1: not sure that's the one you should pick. No Jacks, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Jack's it might be a little rough. It might I
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Speaker 1: don't know, but I clearly there's trouble in Paradise. The
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Speaker 1: next one's just a big few to us, is what
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Speaker 1: I took it as, which Kristen going on Nick Vile's.
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Speaker 2: Podcast because she didn't come on here?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what'd you do to piss her off? Emily? Because
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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's nothing I did.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't me. I don't think it was me. Kristen
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Speaker 2: says Jana is a confusing little bird and states that
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Speaker 2: after Jana said that Kristen didn't want her baby to
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Speaker 2: come to full term, that that is it for Kristen.
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Speaker 2: She says she absolutely will film with her, but she
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Speaker 2: doesn't have a desire to have somebody like that back
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Speaker 2: in her life. First of all, I don't believe for
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Speaker 2: one second that Kristen ever said something like that, like that's.
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Speaker 1: Just And even if she did say something about something
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Speaker 1: like that, I seriously doubt Janet took it personally. She
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Speaker 1: does not seem I don't I think that her baby's
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Speaker 1: a couple months old, and I don't even know that
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Speaker 1: she set up the nursery yet, Like, I don't think
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Speaker 1: she's getting offended by this comment.
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Speaker 2: Well, also, you know what I was thinking. If Kristen
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Speaker 2: did say that, I'm sure then we could pretty much
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Speaker 2: assume that she just messed up her words.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, anything that Kristen says, you can get
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Speaker 1: like one word out of it is accurate. And now
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Speaker 1: we've realized it. She doesn't even do it on purpose.
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Speaker 1: She just can't. She needs to tattoo the shit on
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Speaker 1: her arm.
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Speaker 2: Right, you can't trust anything that comes out of her mouth.
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Speaker 2: So if she did say that, she probably meant to say,
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Speaker 2: I hope her baby comes the full term, but just
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Speaker 2: came out I hope her baby doesn't come to full term.
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Speaker 1: She missed one of the key words, and right, but
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Speaker 1: I don't. I really don't think she was trying to
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Speaker 1: shade her, you know, Janet's unborn baby's life when she.
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Speaker 2: Said, I absolutely not. Kristin says she and Janet were
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Speaker 2: friends and then once they started filming the show, she
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Speaker 2: saw a big change and thought, is this who she
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Speaker 2: really is? Kristin goes on to say that once Janet
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Speaker 2: got to watch herself back, instead of it being humbling,
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Speaker 2: she took another road, trying to act like everyone did
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Speaker 2: her wrong. I don't know. I can kind of see that.
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Speaker 2: I can see Janet being just kind of like the
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Speaker 2: good friend everybody gets along with, and then they're filming
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Speaker 2: and it's like, who is this? Because she she was,
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Speaker 2: she was a lot.
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Speaker 1: I think Janet probably knows what the hell she's doing
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Speaker 1: at all point in time. I think that's bably why
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Speaker 1: she became friends with these people in the first place.
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Speaker 1: I think that's why that she's probably I would bet
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Speaker 1: if we were to roll the tape in slow motion,
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Speaker 1: we will have seen her on vander Pump Rules throughout
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Speaker 1: the years multiple times, like in the background, like grabbing
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Speaker 1: a drink, like.
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Speaker 2: Behind a doorframe.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's places we have seen Janet. So I
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Speaker 1: think that she knew this was coming and she went
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Speaker 1: in and she was like, I'm going to make sure
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Speaker 1: that me and my husband keep this job.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, well, I almost learned her husband's name yesterday,
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Speaker 1: but then I forgot it again. Jason, Jason, Okay, how
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Speaker 1: do you feel about this next one?
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I wasn't really interested. Honestly, I wasn't.
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Speaker 1: Really interested until Victoria responded. But also Victoria has a
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Speaker 1: very long name on Instagram, so it's difficult for me
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Speaker 1: to continue to try to stalk her. But Billy Lee
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Speaker 1: apparently has her own podcast, and she talks about the
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Speaker 1: end of her relationship. Remember when they were on Watch
11:07
Speaker 1: What Happens Live? All of a sudden, everybody's un following
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Speaker 1: each other. It's this whole thing. And Billy this is
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Speaker 1: thank you to brands by Bravo for putting this on one
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Speaker 1: little slide that we can read, because there's no way
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Speaker 1: I would have listened to this podcast.
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Speaker 2: Right, we got the cliff notes.
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Speaker 1: We got the cliff notes, which is what we need.
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Speaker 1: Billy Lee said the following. She's not friends with Sandoval anymore.
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Speaker 1: She says she was sober for a while, but when
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Speaker 1: she started dating when he there's a typeo brands.
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Speaker 2: By Bravo, please get your pronouns correct.
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Speaker 1: Come on, She said. He was sober for a while,
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Speaker 1: but when he started dating Victoria, he started drinking heavily again.
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Speaker 1: Drugs everywhere, and the house a mess. Said Tom was
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Speaker 1: always depressed and Victoria called him all the time, Victoria
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Speaker 1: accused Tom and Billy of sleeping together. And then Victoria
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Speaker 1: wanted Ariana's stuff out of the house and called Logan.
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Speaker 1: Who we know who Logan is. He works at one
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Speaker 1: of Lisa's places, but is also Ariana's bestie, So so
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Speaker 1: Tom could have the master. Tom not being responsible, so
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Speaker 1: she said they need to do an intervention. What blew
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Speaker 1: me away from all of this was not the sex,
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Speaker 1: not anything, but that Arianna was in the master that
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Speaker 1: oh wait, that's chicken setee room with the clothes. Is
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Speaker 1: the master?
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, there were so many boxes in there
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Speaker 2: that room could have been triple the size. You don't
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Speaker 2: know how far back those boxes went.
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Speaker 1: The fact that that is the master. I was like, no,
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Speaker 1: wonder the house isn't sold because I could have confused
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Speaker 1: Tom's as the master. Who would have known? Who really
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Speaker 1: would have known?
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Speaker 2: I don't know. All I know is it was just
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Speaker 2: it was a lot of boxes and chicken seta So
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Speaker 2: maybe it still smells like chickens set Hey, maybe that's
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Speaker 2: why it hasn't sold.
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Speaker 1: Well yeah, but then don't you worry? Victoria Lee Robinson
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Speaker 1: long Instagram name longer than r A Jo c Emily Simpson. Oh,
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Speaker 1: I guess we can't say master bedroom anymore, so.
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Speaker 2: You're supposed to say primary. I can't.
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Speaker 1: I learned all the things I learned that the other day. Fine,
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Speaker 1: the primary bedroom, the biggest bedroom, the bedroom. Victorially responds
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Speaker 1: in response to the outrageous lies with the recent Billy
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Speaker 1: and Joe podcast absolute lies response with truth and all
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Speaker 1: caps coming soon? But people put coming soon now or don't?
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Speaker 2: Does that mean like I have to get my thoughts
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Speaker 2: together and then or does someone purposely say coming soon
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Speaker 2: so that they can create like like a frenzy, Like
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Speaker 2: so people can just sit around with baited breath and
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Speaker 2: wait like I don't get it?
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Speaker 1: And soon to?
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Speaker 2: Where?
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Speaker 1: Where is this going to be released? Is it gonna
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Speaker 1: be on your Instace story? Like? Do I need to
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Speaker 1: follow you? Is it gonna be on Rachel's podcast? Is it?
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Speaker 1: Is it? Because you don't know what to respond because
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Speaker 1: Tom is allegedly on traders and you need his permission
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Speaker 1: before you do the release, like where what's happening here?
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Speaker 1: But she writes, but first, let me make something very
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Speaker 1: she capped it. She's serious, very very very clear. I
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Speaker 1: have never and would never touch belongings that aren't mine,
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Speaker 1: nor have I suggested to do so. I have nothing
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Speaker 1: but respect for Ariana and it's not my place to
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Speaker 1: get involved. Girls shoot your shot at staying relevant with
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Speaker 1: your lies and made up stories. But the truth will
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Speaker 1: come out soon enough. The fact that are we when
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Speaker 1: we're talking about Joe are they say was on the
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Speaker 1: pod with.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what. I was gonna ask you that
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Speaker 2: because I assume you knew that it's it's Joseph, right.
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Speaker 1: Joseph was on the pod with Billy. I'm sorry, that's
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Speaker 1: I can't even imagine that pod, like we're a shit
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Speaker 1: show that.
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Speaker 2: Mike might take the cake.
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Speaker 1: That is like a real code read of a pod.
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Speaker 1: But I guess now we wait. I mean, I don't
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Speaker 1: really know what we're gonna wait to find out. I
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Speaker 1: don't think Arianna is going to make a statement on
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Speaker 1: behalf of Victoria Lee Robinson.
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Speaker 2: I doubt it, but it's coming soon.
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Speaker 1: But like, could she have done it soon before we
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Speaker 1: recapped this episode because now we don't.
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Speaker 2: Need I'm surprised you didn't dm ORR and ask.
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Speaker 1: You know what. I don't really feel like I need
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Speaker 1: to follow Victoria Lee or Billy Lee.
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Speaker 2: Okay, but here's why why do you think Sandoval is
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Speaker 2: drinking so much after dating her?
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Speaker 1: When Sandoval came on Twattz, he was still not drinking
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Speaker 1: in solidarity of Rachel because Rachel couldn't drink at the Meadows.
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Speaker 2: So he was just not drinking because of her. So wait,
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Speaker 2: so now that he's not with Rachel anymore, he went back,
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Speaker 2: he's just drinking and doing drugs. Now.
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Speaker 1: Well, Lala may Or may not have mentioned his usage,
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Speaker 1: his alleged usage of usage of mushrooms sometimes that's the
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Speaker 1: drug in which we're referring to, but she did say
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Speaker 1: that word. But I do know that when we did
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Speaker 1: the pod, Me, Tam and Shorts were all drinking and
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Speaker 1: Tom was not, and we kind of asked him about it,
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Speaker 1: and he was like, it's for Rachel. I want to
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Speaker 1: make sure that she knows that I'm with her. And
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Speaker 1: then by the end of the pot, he's like, today
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Speaker 1: be my first time drinking, and I was like, don't
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Speaker 1: put that on us.
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Speaker 2: He seems very committed.
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Speaker 1: No, I don't need to be carrying that guilt around.
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Speaker 1: You go ahead and you stay sober at least for tonight.
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Speaker 1: But I do like that we've brushed right along from
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Speaker 1: the Ariana stuff. I mean that we were more confused
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Speaker 1: about the Ariana stuff than the drug accusations. We're like,
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Speaker 1: hold on the main bedroom, but who cares that?
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Speaker 2: Ye? Drugs and alcohol? Fine, Fine, that's fine, that makes sense.
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Speaker 1: We got to get into the recap starts out. Jesse
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Speaker 1: notices Michelle isn't wearing her wedding ring. She claims it's
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Speaker 1: because she rushed out of the house. First question, do
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Speaker 1: you take your ring off and on? You know?
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Speaker 2: I normally don't, but then Shane gets really upset with
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Speaker 2: me if I don't take it off before I work out,
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Speaker 2: So I try to do. Yeah, and so I've already
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Speaker 2: broken a ring from lifting what they's on. But I
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Speaker 2: would prefer not to just because I don't want to.
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Speaker 2: I just don't want to lose it. I don't like
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Speaker 2: taking on and off. That's just more room for error,
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Speaker 2: you know. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean I left my watch at Equinox once and
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Speaker 1: I'm still not over it. Like I put it in
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Speaker 1: the cup holder and it was a real big doozy
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Speaker 1: of a set, so I never one. I can't take
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Speaker 1: mine off because my knuckles are so big compared to
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Speaker 1: my finger, because I pop them that I, I don't
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Speaker 1: really have the option. I would have to like oil
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Speaker 1: it and like really work hard. But she rushed out
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Speaker 1: of the house. We start to see the writing on
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Speaker 1: the wall, but then we see Jasmine and Zach go
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Speaker 1: to a pottery class together.
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Speaker 2: He is Zach refuses to let Janet create a narrative
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Speaker 2: that he did anything wrong. He's ready to address it
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Speaker 2: with her at Jackson's bar opening Zach, Zach's a lot.
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Speaker 2: I still like him, though, what do you think?
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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know why did it feel like Zach
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Speaker 1: and Jasmine were pitching like a ghost remake, like where
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Speaker 1: they're like sitting there together and the pottery is like
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Speaker 1: moving and their hands are going up and down. Like
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Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know, I like Zach. Fine,
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Speaker 1: I guess I don't know that I have a problem
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Speaker 1: with Zach. But yesterday him and Kristen posted something together
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Speaker 1: and it was like a it was supposed to be
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Speaker 1: a real or a TikTok, but their mouths didn't match.
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Speaker 1: And listen, my mouth's never match. But I judge others
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Speaker 1: when there's don't.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. I feel like that's a pet
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Speaker 2: peeve of mine too, Like if you're going to take
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Speaker 2: the time to make content and you're gonna use somebody
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Speaker 2: else's words, at least practice it enough so that you
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Speaker 2: line up pretty closely, right.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I want to be clear that I think
19:46
Speaker 1: that our social media team's about to post one of
19:49
Speaker 1: me where my mouth is not going to line up,
19:52
Speaker 1: but I didn't practice. But I also I think it'll
19:55
Speaker 1: probably just be on the podcast when it's posted, not
19:58
Speaker 1: on my actual personal page. Like I'm not committing to
20:01
Speaker 1: it because I'm so embarrassed about it because like that
20:04
Speaker 1: the words were here and I was like, it was
20:07
Speaker 1: not good.
20:08
Speaker 2: So when they put ad you as a collaborator, you
20:11
Speaker 2: put I'm gonna have no decline.
20:14
Speaker 1: No, I already know the mockery I'm gonna get because
20:17
Speaker 1: my mouths are not my mouths, my my multiple mouths
20:21
Speaker 1: are not. Oh my god, it's up. For sake, it
20:25
Speaker 1: better not be up.
20:25
Speaker 2: Oh see, they did it while you're recordings. Get the decline.
20:32
Speaker 2: That was strategy back.
20:34
Speaker 1: I got it. Then, Jacks and Brittany are getting ready
20:38
Speaker 1: for the bars soft opening. Jack spends a lot of
20:42
Speaker 1: time cleaning a single sign out of front so everyone
20:45
Speaker 1: else can handle the work inside for him. Brittany surprised
20:49
Speaker 1: Jacks by bringing his sister into town for the soft
20:52
Speaker 1: She is so cute. By the way, the sister is cute.
20:54
Speaker 2: Jenny right, that was her name, Jenny. She was very
20:57
Speaker 2: cute and she seemed very sweet. There was only a
20:59
Speaker 2: little sprinkling of her. But I was like, well, I mean,
21:03
Speaker 2: she seemed like a lovely girl. She did. I wonder
21:06
Speaker 2: what she thinks of her brother. That's what I kept thinking.
21:08
Speaker 1: That's I did, Jenny, do you want to come on
21:11
Speaker 1: the pod because your brother's telling us no right now?
21:14
Speaker 2: We would like some tea about your brother.
21:17
Speaker 1: I wonder if Jenny likes Brittany, I would think so.
21:22
Speaker 2: I mean, how can you not like Brittany? How can
21:24
Speaker 2: you not like Brittany?
21:26
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I feel like this was a
21:29
Speaker 1: rough episode for all people involved. I did. I am
21:32
Speaker 1: gonna say I know that I'm now removed and biased
21:35
Speaker 1: because of my La La interview, But when I was
21:38
Speaker 1: watching this episode, I did cry?
21:41
Speaker 2: Did you I didn't? And I normally cry? Which part
21:44
Speaker 2: did you cry? On?
21:45
Speaker 1: When they started showing the when Jack's when when Brittany
21:49
Speaker 1: started talking about all the things that Jack said he
21:52
Speaker 1: was going to do and wouldn't do and then started
21:54
Speaker 1: doing the day before our camera's picked up, and then
21:57
Speaker 1: they flashed back to all the like bad that happened.
22:01
Speaker 1: I like, my heart hurt. This is not good, this
22:05
Speaker 1: is sad. This bums me out, like the flashbacks really
22:09
Speaker 1: like I was like, gotcha, you have a soul? Like,
22:14
Speaker 1: what do you mean? This actually touched me. Maybe it's
22:17
Speaker 1: because they have kids, they have a son and yeah,
22:21
Speaker 1: but Jax continues to talk about how stressed he is
22:24
Speaker 1: and making excuses for all of his recent actions. Britney's
22:27
Speaker 1: upset that he never wanted to try for baby number two,
22:31
Speaker 1: and Brittany knows she couldn't bring a baby into the
22:33
Speaker 1: world with Jack's until they fixed their relationship problems. This
22:36
Speaker 1: is my question. Yes, when you are in a bad
22:41
Speaker 1: part of your marriage, which I think all marriages have
22:44
Speaker 1: gone through ups and downs, maybe not as downs as
22:47
Speaker 1: some of their stuff. But at that moment, I'm not
22:50
Speaker 1: thinking put another baby in me, let's go. I don't know.
22:56
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people think that it'll fix
22:58
Speaker 2: the problem. Though.
23:00
Speaker 1: Have you ever been happier right after you've given birth?
23:03
Speaker 1: I mean, why not? Given you haven't given birth? So
23:05
Speaker 1: like yeah, right after having a baby, a newborn.
23:10
Speaker 2: No, I mean that was like, I mean, I had
23:13
Speaker 2: a two year old when I had twin boys that
23:15
Speaker 2: were born, I had three kids under the age of two.
23:18
Speaker 2: I don't even remember those days. But it was not
23:20
Speaker 2: easy and it was not good for our marriage like that.
23:23
Speaker 1: I was going to say, like, were you in Shane
23:24
Speaker 1: thriving at that point.
23:26
Speaker 2: No, we were like barely coexisting. It was just so
23:29
Speaker 2: much work and it was so hard and we were
23:31
Speaker 2: so exhausted. I don't know. I mean, is she I'm
23:36
Speaker 2: sure she wants a baby number two because I bet, well,
23:39
Speaker 2: Cruise is almost three, right, or is three he's three.
23:43
Speaker 2: I'm sure she she wants them spaced out so that
23:45
Speaker 2: they're not too far apart in age. I get that
23:48
Speaker 2: because she would probably want them to be able to
23:50
Speaker 2: go to school together, play together, be close. So I
23:53
Speaker 2: think she's stuck on a timeline. That's what I think,
23:55
Speaker 2: that's where her focus is.
23:57
Speaker 1: But I don't even think it's about the timeline. I
23:59
Speaker 1: think if you're not even gonna if your husband isn't
24:03
Speaker 1: even gonna make the effort to have sex with you,
24:05
Speaker 1: he's clearly not planning to want to have another baby,
24:09
Speaker 1: Like you have to remember when you are trying to
24:12
Speaker 1: have a baby, you have to plan out the timing
24:14
Speaker 1: and the blah blah blah. But if you're not in
24:15
Speaker 1: a place where you can even like go out and
24:18
Speaker 1: have beer, cheese and a couple drinks and have sex
24:22
Speaker 1: at the end of the night just for fun, you're
24:24
Speaker 1: probably not going to schedule out your like fertility chart
24:29
Speaker 1: and make sure it happens on your ovulation days.
24:33
Speaker 2: I don't know that. Maybe she just uses trying for
24:35
Speaker 2: baby number two is just code word for can we
24:38
Speaker 2: just have sex? Please?
24:40
Speaker 1: Please have sex with me and be nice to me
24:42
Speaker 1: forgar it Like, that's the way I thought about it.
24:44
Speaker 1: But then guess what, Kristen misspoke again. You wouldn't believe it.
24:52
Speaker 2: It's amazing.
24:55
Speaker 1: She said Michelle had a boyfriend for a year. But
24:58
Speaker 1: then when Luke and It starts to say that, She's like, no, no, oh,
25:03
Speaker 1: my god, what I met She had a boyfriend one
25:08
Speaker 1: year ago. That's what I meant.
25:11
Speaker 2: And then Christen, Okay, but I do love that when
25:13
Speaker 2: she said that Michelle had a boyfriend for a year,
25:16
Speaker 2: she was so dramatic when she said it, like and
25:18
Speaker 2: not always we all know about it, Like she's even
25:29
Speaker 2: dramatic when she misspeaks.
25:31
Speaker 1: Like it's like it's my favorite thing. But it's why
25:34
Speaker 1: we need her on the show. And we need her
25:36
Speaker 1: not just selling T shirts and getting pedicures in her
25:39
Speaker 1: apartment or talking to Luke and his like statement tease.
25:44
Speaker 1: We need her with the group. But Kristen says she
25:48
Speaker 1: doesn't blame Michelle for texting someone at that time because
25:52
Speaker 1: Jesse wasn't pulling as weight as a husband. I think,
25:58
Speaker 1: first and foremost for next season, I'm not great on
26:03
Speaker 1: the computer, but I think we could pull up like
26:05
Speaker 1: an Excel sheet for Kristen that we could create with
26:08
Speaker 1: her with like things people said, how to repeat it
26:13
Speaker 1: to make things easier for her.
26:15
Speaker 2: But you want to do a lesson? Is that what
26:18
Speaker 2: you mean?
26:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a PowerPoint like it can be like this
26:21
Speaker 1: is what we're saying tonight. Yeah, carry it on a
26:24
Speaker 1: little notepad, whatever you need to do. This is what
26:27
Speaker 1: your one job tonight is to say this line right,
26:32
Speaker 1: carry it out. But then Jesse and Michelle have a
26:37
Speaker 1: tough conversation about their marriage. Jesse thought Michelle's strong family
26:41
Speaker 1: values meant she would do whatever it takes to fix
26:44
Speaker 1: any marriage problems they faced. In the marriage, Michelle says
26:47
Speaker 1: she doesn't have any feelings for him anymore, and Jesse
26:50
Speaker 1: starts to get emotional, and Michelle admits she wants to
26:54
Speaker 1: love Jesse the way she used to, but she doesn't
26:56
Speaker 1: know if she can.
26:57
Speaker 2: Okay, here's my question.
26:59
Speaker 1: Do robots have feelings?
27:02
Speaker 2: She does that there's no emotion, Like, she's like, I
27:05
Speaker 2: just don't love you anymore. I'm just not attracted to you.
27:07
Speaker 1: It's just.
27:10
Speaker 2: Nothing.
27:11
Speaker 1: Okay.
27:11
Speaker 2: But my question is, do you think if she was
27:13
Speaker 2: texting some famous whoever director or actor or whatever the
27:17
Speaker 2: allegations are about some guy that she met at Chateau
27:20
Speaker 2: Marmont or whatever, do you think that's the reason that
27:24
Speaker 2: she disconnected from him or do you think it's just
27:26
Speaker 2: all because of his personality, Because I think once you
27:30
Speaker 2: get a taste that like, you think you can do
27:32
Speaker 2: better then you like, I think maybe that's why she
27:36
Speaker 2: was checked out.
27:37
Speaker 1: Well, what I learned when on the pod with Jesse
27:40
Speaker 1: is that they had already split up post COVID. So
27:46
Speaker 1: you know, like when we were all in lockdown, it
27:48
Speaker 1: was like do or die time for all these couples.
27:50
Speaker 1: There was a split up between them. I may have
27:52
Speaker 1: my dates wrong, but guys, I'm doing the best that
27:55
Speaker 1: I can. I'm paraphrasing my information. But they had already
27:59
Speaker 1: split up, they had worked on it, they had gotten
28:02
Speaker 1: back together, and I think once they got back together,
28:05
Speaker 1: I don't think she ever really wanted to be back together.
28:08
Speaker 1: I think maybe guilt or whatever it may have been,
28:12
Speaker 1: or the idea of being on a television show or
28:15
Speaker 1: whatever whatever it was. I think that's why they got
28:18
Speaker 1: back together. And I think from the very beginning she
28:24
Speaker 1: was already done. The first time she moved out, she
28:26
Speaker 1: was done well, I.
28:28
Speaker 2: Would say, just from us as a viewer standpoint, the
28:31
Speaker 2: first time I saw her and the two of them
28:33
Speaker 2: together in the very first episode, Remember we would talk
28:36
Speaker 2: about how we didn't think she had any personality. But
28:39
Speaker 2: I don't think it's so much personality as much as
28:41
Speaker 2: now that you know the end result that I just
28:43
Speaker 2: think she was checked out. I think she had the ick.
28:47
Speaker 2: She had the dick, right.
28:50
Speaker 1: I think I don't really think there's any coming back
28:55
Speaker 1: from that. I mean, Jesse even cried on the pod
28:58
Speaker 1: talking about her. I point I asked him before all
29:02
Speaker 1: this happened, before the first separation, Did you ever cheat
29:04
Speaker 1: on her? Like, that's what my gut instinct told me. Yeah,
29:08
Speaker 1: And he was like no. He was like, I don't
29:12
Speaker 1: know if we believe him. I mean, but he looked
29:14
Speaker 1: at me dead in the face and was like.
29:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. You know, he's he seems like
29:19
Speaker 2: I get like, you know, you get douchebag vibe from him.
29:22
Speaker 2: But I actually find him entertaining. But I don't find
29:24
Speaker 2: him to be a liar because I think if he did,
29:27
Speaker 2: he would just say it and then it would He
29:29
Speaker 2: would probably brag about how it was with like an
29:31
Speaker 2: actress or something.
29:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I I do think that just time
29:36
Speaker 1: went on and they were kind of just over each
29:40
Speaker 1: she was over him. But what he kept saying was
29:43
Speaker 1: I didn't realize how bad it was until I watched
29:45
Speaker 1: the show back and watched how she like didn't even
29:48
Speaker 1: want to touch me or be around me. And I
29:50
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you didn't feel that at the moment.
29:55
Speaker 1: But then it's all overshadowed and none of it matters
29:57
Speaker 1: anymore because then we get into Jackson Brett again. They've
30:01
Speaker 1: opened the bar. They have a soft opening. Janet confronts
30:05
Speaker 1: Jasmine about going to a pottery class with Zach. Janet's
30:08
Speaker 1: happy she gave Zach a chance this summer, but she
30:11
Speaker 1: realized they don't vibe. Zach approaches Michelle, Janet and Jasmine.
30:16
Speaker 1: Janet tells Zach her perspective he was aggressive about coming
30:20
Speaker 1: to her baby moon, and then Zach begins to yell
30:23
Speaker 1: that he doesn't care what crock of shit boots boots
30:30
Speaker 1: her on his phone call with Janet. Janet immediately leaves
30:34
Speaker 1: once he begins to argue with her, and Zach tells
30:36
Speaker 1: her to get the fuck out of there then, and
30:38
Speaker 1: then Jason threatens to wreck Zach for speaking to his
30:42
Speaker 1: wife like that. If I will wreck you if there
30:45
Speaker 1: was a physical altercation between Zach and Janet's husband, who
30:49
Speaker 1: do you think could win?
30:51
Speaker 2: Maybe Zach? Yeah, I'm I mean, Jason has some muscles, but.
30:58
Speaker 1: I don't know.
30:58
Speaker 2: Zach is just he's ricey and hair.
31:01
Speaker 1: I don't think that Janet's husband is like enough hate
31:04
Speaker 1: in him to like really go for it like he was.
31:06
Speaker 1: I think he depped in because he needed to. But like, yeah,
31:12
Speaker 1: but also Zach's dis disdain for Janet's friends and his crocs,
31:18
Speaker 1: like it's palpable. I can kind of like get on
31:21
Speaker 1: board with that.
31:30
Speaker 2: What do you think about Janet taking the phone call
31:34
Speaker 2: from Zach and putting it on speakerphone and allowing her
31:36
Speaker 2: two friends to listen, but not telling Zach that they
31:39
Speaker 2: were listening.
31:39
Speaker 1: I do tell people when they're on speakerphone.
31:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. So I think he should
31:45
Speaker 2: have known that there was an audience there. So I
31:48
Speaker 2: thought that was crappy that she didn't tell him. I think.
31:53
Speaker 1: I feel like Janet is definitely the girl that was
31:56
Speaker 1: in high school. Remember when we before cell phones and
31:59
Speaker 1: you could do secret three ways, but like you wouldn't
32:01
Speaker 1: tell your friends, yes, yeah, and something you'd be talking about,
32:06
Speaker 1: like this guy that you had a crush on, and
32:08
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, Amanda would be like, Teddy,
32:11
Speaker 1: you're such a bitch.
32:13
Speaker 2: I like Jacob for a long time.
32:16
Speaker 1: You know, whatever it is. I feel like that's Janet.
32:21
Speaker 1: But I also feel like being on speakerphone when you
32:24
Speaker 1: think it's for production versus you're mocking this person with
32:29
Speaker 1: your friends is two different things.
32:31
Speaker 2: Right. Well, I understand that when he calls, he knows
32:33
Speaker 2: he's calling that she's on camera, right, because you have
32:38
Speaker 2: to set that up.
32:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, but shouldn't you say that I'm here with Johnny
32:41
Speaker 1: and Jacob or whoever.
32:43
Speaker 2: It is and ship boots yeah.
32:45
Speaker 1: And ship boot and pink ship boot. I mean, I
32:48
Speaker 1: would tell you no matter if I like you or
32:51
Speaker 1: I don't like you, I immediately let somebody know. For
32:54
Speaker 1: like I'm in the car with somebody else, like I'm like, hey,
32:56
Speaker 1: if the conversation starts to shift from like what time
32:59
Speaker 1: are you going to be here, I'm like, oh, I'm
33:01
Speaker 1: with blah blah right now. Like I don't have to
33:04
Speaker 1: say speakerphone, but I at least let you let someone know.
33:08
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you think he was aggressive with Janet? I
33:12
Speaker 2: felt like Janet was annoying because she just kept walking
33:15
Speaker 2: away from every conversation. It was just like, no matter
33:17
Speaker 2: what someone said, she was just like, I'm pregnant and
33:19
Speaker 2: she would leave. But I did feel like Zach was
33:22
Speaker 2: a little too aggressive, Like he could have he could
33:24
Speaker 2: have gotten his point across if he just took it
33:27
Speaker 2: down a notch.
33:28
Speaker 1: Here's my problem with Zach. Do I think that he's
33:32
Speaker 1: entertaining at times to watch? Yes? Do I think he
33:35
Speaker 1: gives two shits about being friends with Janet? Absolutely not.
33:39
Speaker 1: Do I think he cares so much about being on
33:42
Speaker 1: this television show. AB absolutely. So That's where I'm having
33:47
Speaker 1: the disconnect. If I truly thought he cared about any
33:50
Speaker 1: sort of relationship with Janet, I feel like we could
33:53
Speaker 1: have a different conversation.
33:54
Speaker 2: But he doesn't.
33:55
Speaker 1: He's just like, Hey, I want to make sure next
33:58
Speaker 1: year I get to wear myn on colored outfit and
34:01
Speaker 1: like do this and like front of my house in
34:04
Speaker 1: the valley right or my apartment building right.
34:07
Speaker 2: So do you think he thinks that like Janet's the
34:10
Speaker 2: HBI se So he's just trying to keep that relationship
34:14
Speaker 2: to work, Like is he working hard on that relationship
34:17
Speaker 2: because he sees her kind of she she kind of
34:20
Speaker 2: is like the head bitch. She's like manipulating everybody, telling
34:22
Speaker 2: everybody would think everybody's siding with her. I mean even
34:26
Speaker 2: up till the end, everybody sides with her up until
34:28
Speaker 2: the end.
34:29
Speaker 1: She says something like having common enemies, like she's keeping
34:33
Speaker 1: them close or doing something like that. Like I think
34:36
Speaker 1: Janet knows what she's doing. And I think, oh, she's
34:39
Speaker 1: talking about Jasmine, and I think I want to talk
34:44
Speaker 1: to Janet. You know her, you're apparently Besti's with her. Now,
34:48
Speaker 1: you didn't tell me when I called, and you're on
34:50
Speaker 1: speaker with her.
34:51
Speaker 2: But I met her. I met her one time. She's lovely.
34:56
Speaker 2: When I met her, I was like, you do know
34:58
Speaker 2: you're the villain, right?
35:00
Speaker 1: What did she say? She goes, yeah, I do.
35:03
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened.
35:05
Speaker 1: She knows what happened. Then Kristen tells Michelle that Janet's
35:10
Speaker 1: person who started the shit storm of lies, and then
35:13
Speaker 1: Jack approaches Janet because she claims he was her messenger,
35:17
Speaker 1: and she immediately tells him to watch his tone because
35:20
Speaker 1: she's pregnant. Jack raises his voice and prompts Janet to
35:24
Speaker 1: leave the area immediately. I feel like it's interesting that
35:32
Speaker 1: suddenly Jason can't hear when it's Jack's arguing with Janet,
35:36
Speaker 1: but he was fine to hear when Zach is arguing
35:39
Speaker 1: with Janet.
35:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would say Zach Zach was more heated
35:43
Speaker 2: and more aggressive. I mean, Jack's was Jack's. I felt
35:47
Speaker 2: like Jackson's is Jax, but Zach was just he was out.
35:51
Speaker 2: If Zach talked to me like that, like the way
35:53
Speaker 2: he talked to Janet, I wouldn't have gotten up and
35:55
Speaker 2: walked away like I probably would have punched him.
35:58
Speaker 1: I don't know that this is gonna be mean. I
36:01
Speaker 1: don't know that I'm hanging out with Zach regardless.
36:04
Speaker 2: No, you don't want to try his hair on.
36:07
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he probably has more hairs than I do.
36:10
Speaker 1: But like, I just don't know.
36:12
Speaker 2: It's like a lego. It's like a lego hair, Like
36:14
Speaker 2: you could just take it off, just like put it on.
36:17
Speaker 1: It's like my hat right now, and then.
36:19
Speaker 2: Take it off, set it over here. I don't know.
36:22
Speaker 1: I just have yet to find him fun at this point,
36:28
Speaker 1: Like I think, Okay.
36:29
Speaker 2: So let me ask you, so, if you were gonna
36:31
Speaker 2: cast The Valley next season, would you continue with like
36:35
Speaker 2: Jasmine and Zach as friends or would you just move
36:38
Speaker 2: over another couple. I we're another couple inside.
36:42
Speaker 1: I think Jasmine is needed.
36:45
Speaker 2: I do like her.
36:45
Speaker 1: She's very She's the voice of reason, that voice of reason.
36:48
Speaker 1: I wish we saw a little bit more of Jasmine's relationship. Yeah,
36:53
Speaker 1: because she is in a committed relationship. We may as
36:56
Speaker 1: why are we not leaning into that?
36:58
Speaker 2: Her girlfriend? What must not want a film at all?
37:01
Speaker 1: That's what I'm isn't getting paid or whatever it may be.
37:04
Speaker 1: I just find Zach, Jasmine doesn't give me. And granted
37:09
Speaker 1: I can be thirsty too, but Jasmine does not give
37:12
Speaker 1: me like she's desperate to be on the show.
37:13
Speaker 2: Vibes and Zach dees, so you would next season you
37:18
Speaker 2: would do without Zach.
37:20
Speaker 1: I'm fine if he's there, but I would be even
37:23
Speaker 1: more fine to like meet Jesse's new girlfriend and Michelle's
37:28
Speaker 1: new boyfriend.
37:29
Speaker 2: I want to see Michelle with someone else, Like does
37:31
Speaker 2: she just talk like that's the whole time?
37:34
Speaker 1: Do you think with her new boyfriend she shows emotion.
37:39
Speaker 2: Her animate away. I love you.
37:43
Speaker 1: I wish you would change your personality. But in the confessional,
37:51
Speaker 1: Zach says Janet has always liked to plant the seeds,
37:55
Speaker 1: and no one knew about it in the past because
37:57
Speaker 1: it was behind the seeds. But now everyone and we'll
38:00
Speaker 1: be able to watch it.
38:03
Speaker 2: Whatever.
38:04
Speaker 1: Despite Kristen's attempts to tell Michelle all this drama Janet,
38:09
Speaker 1: Michelle won't listen.
38:11
Speaker 2: Janet, Yeah, no one seems. No one seems to listen.
38:15
Speaker 2: It's like it's it's like from a viewer standpoint, we're
38:20
Speaker 2: watching it going. It's obviously Janet who has instigated all
38:24
Speaker 2: of this, but no one on the show sees it.
38:27
Speaker 2: No one.
38:29
Speaker 1: I don't know if they don't see it or they're
38:31
Speaker 1: just so they that somebody else is doing it. So
38:34
Speaker 1: they're like, great, we'll fall right here. I mean, they're.
38:36
Speaker 2: Happy that there's a villain and they're just glad it's
38:38
Speaker 2: not them. They're like, fine, Janet's the villain. I'm good Jane,
38:42
Speaker 2: it's still.
38:42
Speaker 1: Gonna get that good at it because she's pregnant. So
38:45
Speaker 1: let's all latch onto this and let's go makes But
38:50
Speaker 1: then we kind of get back into Jack's giving his
38:53
Speaker 1: speech and he's obviously very excited. He tells everyone he
38:58
Speaker 1: wouldn't have done this if Britney Will wasn't involved, And
39:02
Speaker 1: then in his confessional, Jack says he and Brittany beat
39:05
Speaker 1: the odds by opening a bar together. Is that like
39:08
Speaker 1: a beating the odds thing? You know?
39:12
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I do know if if
39:14
Speaker 2: Shane and I had to open a business together, like
39:16
Speaker 2: I do know that we would probably want to kill
39:20
Speaker 2: each other. But Jack's always made it like he wasn't
39:23
Speaker 2: really interested in Brittany helping. Yeah, So then at the end,
39:27
Speaker 2: you know, like anytime she was like suggesting something or
39:30
Speaker 2: she wanted to go or she wanted to go to
39:32
Speaker 2: a meeting. He made it like, well you're you don't
39:34
Speaker 2: need to, like, you don't need to be there. So
39:36
Speaker 2: I don't know, like what he's giving her props at
39:38
Speaker 2: the end because she made the wall.
39:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't really understand it. They give each other
39:46
Speaker 1: a kiss after a speech, and then we cut to
39:48
Speaker 1: the headlines that surfaced after Brittany and Jack split. Six
39:53
Speaker 1: months later, Brittany is interviewed by TMZ saying her and
39:56
Speaker 1: Cruise deserve better, and then Jack starts crying and his
40:01
Speaker 1: confessional he never thought he'd be in this position. I
40:07
Speaker 1: don't know. I just feel like Jack's telling Brittany she
40:11
Speaker 1: needs to stop drinking all season, only to ask her
40:14
Speaker 1: if she wants a shot is exactly what we're dealing with.
40:20
Speaker 1: It's very Jacks, like if Edwin was like Teddy, stop
40:25
Speaker 1: this stop and then was like do you want no?
40:28
Speaker 2: No?
40:29
Speaker 1: Well, like, what is happening?
40:32
Speaker 2: How do you feel when things happen after a season ends?
40:34
Speaker 2: Because clearly they picked the cameras back up, so they
40:36
Speaker 2: were done filming. They're editing the season Jacks and Brittany
40:40
Speaker 2: break up, so then they bring the cameras back up.
40:43
Speaker 2: So how do you feel when they.
40:45
Speaker 1: Do that, because I like, I could tell that she'd
40:49
Speaker 1: already moved out. Yeah, she'd already moved out.
40:52
Speaker 2: But then she was back because they're like, look, we
40:54
Speaker 2: have to film a scene with you guys.
40:56
Speaker 1: Well, she was supposedly packing something, but it was just
40:58
Speaker 1: one item.
41:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what made me think this is nothing more
41:02
Speaker 2: than like she's living over here, and production is like, Okay,
41:05
Speaker 2: well we're gonna we're pulling the cameras back up. We
41:07
Speaker 2: need you to have a conversation. You need to come
41:09
Speaker 2: back over to the house. So then she comes over
41:10
Speaker 2: and acts like she's like packing something.
41:13
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm really all I took from both of
41:15
Speaker 1: these divorces, from both of these separations rather was I
41:20
Speaker 1: do not think that Michelle and Jesse will ever get
41:23
Speaker 1: back together. I think that's done. I think they will
41:26
Speaker 1: come back on the show with new partners. They're going
41:30
Speaker 1: to continue co parenting, co parenting, fighting, all the things.
41:35
Speaker 1: I do think that Jack's I don't really understand it,
41:41
Speaker 1: but I think he has this obsession with people wanting
41:43
Speaker 1: to believe that he's a good guy m hm, and
41:47
Speaker 1: he's going to do everything in his power to try
41:49
Speaker 1: to manipulate people into thinking that him and Brittany are
41:53
Speaker 1: going to work it out. So, whether Brittany got drunk
41:56
Speaker 1: after the finale and decided to go sleep in that
41:59
Speaker 1: room that night, and he decided to post it on Twitter, instastory,
42:03
Speaker 1: or whatever it may be. I saw him gaslight her
42:07
Speaker 1: that last episode A million they were.
42:09
Speaker 2: When they were having in the conversation in the bedroom.
42:12
Speaker 1: Yes, if I said to you, Emily, I am only
42:14
Speaker 1: doing this podcast with you if you go to therapy
42:19
Speaker 1: and you have to start tomorrow, and then we were
42:22
Speaker 1: randomly on a three week sabbatical and you never started,
42:25
Speaker 1: and then the day before we start, you're like, you
42:27
Speaker 1: know what, I booked it for next week.
42:29
Speaker 2: I'd be like you, yeah, well, you know I have
42:32
Speaker 2: to get Brittany props because I think you could tell,
42:35
Speaker 2: or you could tell that for the duration of their marriage,
42:38
Speaker 2: she's been protecting him on camera because this I think
42:41
Speaker 2: this is the first time that she wasn't because she
42:43
Speaker 2: broke the fourth wall and said, now you're talking about therapy,
42:47
Speaker 2: and you said you booked an appointment the day right
42:50
Speaker 2: the day before the cameras came back up, and you
42:51
Speaker 2: knew the cameras were coming back up, so you made
42:53
Speaker 2: no effort all those weeks or months or however long
42:56
Speaker 2: it was. But now all of a sudden, we're going
42:58
Speaker 2: to film. We have to have this conversation. You know,
43:00
Speaker 2: they're going to have the conversation. They say, this is
43:02
Speaker 2: what time we're coming, We're gonna have this conversation. And
43:04
Speaker 2: now you make an appointment. And then to know that
43:07
Speaker 2: he didn't even go to the appointment, just so he
43:09
Speaker 2: could say he made the appointment, but that he doesn't
43:10
Speaker 2: even go I know.
43:11
Speaker 1: When they showed that afterthing, I was like, this is
43:14
Speaker 1: such a shit show. But I think it shows like
43:19
Speaker 1: how I think in his head, and it may possibly
43:23
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to show empathy. I think maybe because
43:26
Speaker 1: his dad's passed away and the way he was raised,
43:29
Speaker 1: I think he really does want to believe that you
43:33
Speaker 1: can fight for your marriage. And do I think you
43:35
Speaker 1: can fight for a marriage, Yes, But I do think
43:38
Speaker 1: in this situation, this marriage is broken. I think it
43:44
Speaker 1: was broken before it was ever a marriage. I just
43:49
Speaker 1: when I watched them, I don't know that there's any
43:51
Speaker 1: coming back. Like even when you see the flashbacks of
43:54
Speaker 1: him cheating on her, or calling her fat, or just
43:59
Speaker 1: continuing to make her always look like the bad guy.
44:03
Speaker 1: Even if they do get back together, I think it
44:05
Speaker 1: will solely be so he can make her look even
44:08
Speaker 1: shittier next season.
44:09
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're saying you think that the photo of
44:12
Speaker 2: that he recently showed of her in the bed asleep
44:15
Speaker 2: is not current.
44:17
Speaker 1: Oh, I think it is current. I'm sure that after
44:21
Speaker 1: whatever the party was, they had a babysitter for cruise,
44:25
Speaker 1: and then he's like, just come back to the house
44:27
Speaker 1: and sleep, you.
44:27
Speaker 2: Know, Like, I don't think she I'm saying, but he
44:30
Speaker 2: just posted that recently, right.
44:32
Speaker 1: I think it happened two nights ago.
44:34
Speaker 2: Oh, I see, you see what I'm saying, Like, Oh,
44:36
Speaker 2: you're saying we had the finale party. She probably drank
44:38
Speaker 2: a little bit, and she brought the She came to
44:40
Speaker 2: pick up the baby, and she laid down and fell
44:42
Speaker 2: asleep or something.
44:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think the baby probably stick with the
44:45
Speaker 1: babysitter stays at the house. They went and put on
44:49
Speaker 1: a brave front. I don't think she hates him, but
44:52
Speaker 1: do I think they like ravage each other and ripped
44:55
Speaker 1: each other's clothes off and had sex that night. And
44:57
Speaker 1: are rekindling their marriage. No, do I think she's heartbroken
45:02
Speaker 1: and sad and probably doing everything she can to try
45:05
Speaker 1: to get over him. Yes, I judge her for sleeping
45:09
Speaker 1: in their you know, marital bed that night. No.
45:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, I assume that there's probably more to the story,
45:17
Speaker 2: Like I don't know, maybe she was fell asleep or something.
45:21
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, clearly she didn't post that her
45:24
Speaker 1: back was to it.
45:25
Speaker 2: So what's your take on this who she's been sleeping
45:27
Speaker 2: with for the past four months?
45:29
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't really have a take because it
45:30
Speaker 1: would be a lie because I know exactly who it is.
45:34
Speaker 1: Tune into two Teas on Sunday at nine pm and
45:37
Speaker 1: you'll get it. I mean, I guess we could continue
45:39
Speaker 1: on about Etner and Jesse, but I think the fact
45:44
Speaker 1: that they filmed their breakup scene while Isabella was in
45:49
Speaker 1: the kitchen on the iPad wanting a barbecue sauce. I mean,
45:53
Speaker 1: it was all a lot, but we got through it okay.
45:55
Speaker 2: But here, let me just say this though, I don't
45:58
Speaker 2: think they should have an adult com like that, especially
46:01
Speaker 2: about divorce in front of the child.
46:02
Speaker 1: But I said the same thing.
46:04
Speaker 2: But I also do understand that in a situation like
46:07
Speaker 2: that where they're like, look, the two of you need
46:09
Speaker 2: to come together. We have to film this conversation of
46:11
Speaker 2: the two of you, and she's there, they're co parenting,
46:15
Speaker 2: and the child's there. I don't know what other option
46:17
Speaker 2: there is unless the kid go into a bedroom and
46:19
Speaker 2: shut the door. But then you don't know what's going
46:21
Speaker 2: on with the child or what they're doing.
46:23
Speaker 1: He did make a good point, which I didn't necessarily
46:26
Speaker 1: think about. He said, by the end of our marriage,
46:29
Speaker 1: it was so toxic that we couldn't we wouldn't even
46:32
Speaker 1: be arguing sometimes, Like we could be like, do you
46:34
Speaker 1: want to go grab McDonald I'm just making suff McDonald's
46:38
Speaker 1: air taco bell, and like it could be a totally
46:41
Speaker 1: and Isabella would be like, why are you guys fighting
46:44
Speaker 1: And they're like, we're actually not fighting. Like her her
46:47
Speaker 1: senses were already heightened, right, So.
46:51
Speaker 2: You're saying, no matter what any conversation, she just thought
46:53
Speaker 2: they just weren't getting along.
46:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean then she went on Jana Kramer
46:57
Speaker 1: and said they're still fighting, which was the same time
47:00
Speaker 1: that I had Jesse on. I kind of asked him
47:02
Speaker 1: about that, and he brushed over it, but I think
47:05
Speaker 1: there were not going to get really any more information
47:07
Speaker 1: until season two starts, which I think is going to
47:09
Speaker 1: start filming soon.
47:11
Speaker 2: What is the list that Michelle wanted him to make?
47:14
Speaker 2: Was it a list of clients?
47:17
Speaker 1: I think Michelle just wanted to be like completely done,
47:20
Speaker 1: Like he wanted to go through and like have lawyers
47:23
Speaker 1: make the decisions with the furniture, the life, the businesses,
47:27
Speaker 1: all that. And she's like, no, I'm actually done. I
47:30
Speaker 1: did this financially on my own. I've gotten my new place. Like,
47:33
Speaker 1: we don't need to go through the raate, Like we've
47:35
Speaker 1: already decided on fifty to fifty custody. What are we
47:37
Speaker 1: fighting about? I think she just thought they were delaying it.
47:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she wanted him to make a list, and
47:43
Speaker 2: he's like, we don't need to make a list.
47:46
Speaker 1: I think holidays and stuff like that.
47:49
Speaker 2: Oh, because see, I thought maybe it was clients, like
47:51
Speaker 2: they wanted to make a list of clients and divide
47:52
Speaker 2: up clients or something. I didn't know what the list
47:55
Speaker 2: was that they wanted.
47:56
Speaker 1: You could be right, but I took it more as
47:58
Speaker 1: like where like you have Christmas Eve, I have Christmas Day,
48:02
Speaker 1: whatever it may be.
48:03
Speaker 2: You know well, I mean I do know so far
48:05
Speaker 2: they don't have attorneys. I don't know where they're at now,
48:07
Speaker 2: but apparently from this episode, they just have a mediator
48:11
Speaker 2: who's drafting the paperwork, which is the you know, less
48:15
Speaker 2: expensive route to go. I who wants I was.
48:17
Speaker 1: Gonna say, I don't think they're like, I mean, we
48:19
Speaker 1: have to wrap, but I don't think they're like loaded
48:22
Speaker 1: to the point where they have either one of them
48:24
Speaker 1: has so much to lose financially, right, that's where things
48:28
Speaker 1: really get.
48:28
Speaker 2: Ugly, exactly, Like if I divorce Shane, he's going down.
48:33
Speaker 1: He's got and I'll go, you know, and I'll move
48:35
Speaker 1: in with you into our new home that Shane pays
48:38
Speaker 1: for County.
48:38
Speaker 2: Maybe you could be on Range County like I.
48:41
Speaker 1: Live in Orange County now I live on Emily's couch.
48:45
Speaker 1: Shane pays for it. Oh my gosh. Well, I've missed you,
48:48
Speaker 1: and we have some more guests next week, so I
48:51
Speaker 1: look forward to sing it then.
48:55
Speaker 2: Okay, and send that text to me please, thanks for listening, guys.
48:58
Speaker 1: Hattie she is day chiding