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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey, this is Dakota.
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- 0:10Speaker 3: My boyfriend lied about being adopted, and I caught him.
- 0:14Speaker 3: Ha ha! You're going down, buddy! I, of 21 female,
- 0:19Speaker 3: suspected my boyfriend's 25 male story ever since I met him.
- 0:24Speaker 3: But I thought I was being unnecessarily skeptical, questioning of
- 0:27Speaker 3: someone's traumatic upbringing. Daph made a big deal of it.
- 0:31Speaker 3: Until yesterday. We were visiting his parents, and I was
- 0:35Speaker 3: making chit-chat. You know how we do. As parents are
- 0:39Speaker 3: prone to do.
- 0:39Speaker 4: Oh, okay, she says that.
- 0:41Speaker 3: His mother starts talking about when he was a kid.
- 0:44Speaker 4: Which was odd.
- 0:45Speaker 3: Because he told me he came to this country at 11.
- 0:48Speaker 3: And was adopted by these people at 12. I didn't
- 0:51Speaker 3: call it out, but I asked some questions to verify
- 0:54Speaker 3: for myself. Like, wow, how old was he then?
- 0:58Speaker 4: And such.
- 0:59Speaker 3: Boyfriend has gone very, very quiet as we're talking. We
- 1:04Speaker 3: had to leave shortly after, and I wait for him
- 1:06Speaker 3: to make the first move when we're in the car,
- 1:08Speaker 3: which he does.
- 1:10Speaker 4: Ugh.
- 1:11Speaker 3: I hate it when they do that. They fabricate my
- 1:14Speaker 3: mother's stories and tell them as.
- 1:16Speaker 4: If it were their own. What?
- 1:19Speaker 3: That was the worst lie I've ever heard.
- 1:22Speaker 4: Sorry.
- 1:23Speaker 3: Come on, dude. Do better.
- 1:24Speaker 4: Wait. So... They were having dinner.
- 1:27Speaker 3: So they were at, OP and her boyfriend were at
- 1:30Speaker 3: his parents' house. And they start telling a story from
- 1:34Speaker 3: when OP's boyfriend was a kid. And OP has been
- 1:38Speaker 3: told by boyfriend that he didn't get adopted until he
- 1:40Speaker 3: was 12.
- 1:41Speaker 4: Oh.
- 1:41Speaker 3: And so his parents are going, oh, yeah, he was
- 1:45Speaker 3: like a seven or he was.
- 1:47Speaker 4: 10 or something.
- 1:48Speaker 3: And she goes, oh, yeah. And then she gets in
- 1:51Speaker 3: the car and Opie's boyfriend goes, yeah, my parents are
- 1:55Speaker 3: always lying.
- 1:57Speaker 4: Oh, what a freak. Nope. Weird. Nope.
- 2:00Speaker 3: Immediately.
- 2:01Speaker 4: I'm out. I can't do lying. And then Opie goes, wait, what?
- 2:05Speaker 4: Someone has something to say.
- 2:06Speaker 1: It is not okay to lie about being adopted.
- 2:09Speaker 4: It's not.
- 2:10Speaker 1: That create a fabrication of your life. And in result,
- 2:14Speaker 1: people don't trust you.
- 2:15Speaker 4: That's so true, Riley. That's so true. Thank you, Robo Riley.
- 2:19Speaker 3: Riley, also, I have so much ginger for you. I
- 2:22Speaker 3: have a giant box of ginger that I need to
- 2:25Speaker 3: get rid of.
- 2:25Speaker 4: Yeah. I want to know the reason why he's lying. Like,
- 2:29Speaker 4: does he just want to be cool? Like, I would
- 2:31Speaker 4: love to be cool. I always hated when, like, we
- 2:33Speaker 4: went around the class, like, and we were, like, in
- 2:35Speaker 4: fourth grade or something. No, and they were always like, oh,
- 2:38Speaker 4: I was born in Michigan. Oh, I was born in, like,
- 2:40Speaker 4: you know, somewhere else. And you were just born in Ohio.
- 2:42Speaker 4: Just like everyone else. I was like, now look at me.
- 2:45Speaker 4: Look at me. Nobody's born in Ohio anymore. Let's see
- 2:48Speaker 4: why Opie lied. Or Opie's born to lie. Oh, someone
- 2:50Speaker 4: has something to say. Yeah, okay. Robo Riley's turn.
- 2:53Speaker 1: I am okay if he is lying about being adopted
- 2:57Speaker 1: to save himself from getting f * * * ed
- 2:59Speaker 1: from the government.
- 3:05Speaker 4: Okay. Is true. I guess so is true. Yeah, but
- 3:10Speaker 4: why would he?
- 3:12Speaker 3: OP says, where did they get the stories from?
- 3:15Speaker 4: Her boyfriend goes, her diary.
- 3:17Speaker 3: Where is that diary now? In a bank box in
- 3:19Speaker 3: the Capitol. Why would they do that?
- 3:21Speaker 4: Because they don't want to tell people I'm adopted.
- 3:23Speaker 3: No point in lying to me, though, since I would
- 3:26Speaker 3: obviously have been told. Yeah, well, I did notice that
- 3:29Speaker 3: she never specifically mentioned herself in that story. Yeah, she.
- 3:34Speaker 3: That was the whole conversation that they just had.
- 3:35Speaker 4: God. Why?
- 3:37Speaker 3: We talked a little. Mostly, I was quiet, digesting it all.
- 3:41Speaker 3: Thing is, I've always suspected his story to be BS.
- 3:44Speaker 4: Because it is.
- 3:46Speaker 3: Because it sounds like BS.
- 3:48Speaker 4: Because that's exactly what it is.
- 3:50Speaker 3: It's too improbable. Too much sob. He's actually from the US.
- 3:54Speaker 3: His real parents and brother passed away in a house fire.
- 3:57Speaker 3: No relatives wanted him. And he was abandoned in an airport.
- 4:01Speaker 4: What?
- 4:02Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from, congrats, it's Allie. And
- 4:05Speaker 3: if you want to submit your own stories, go to
- 4:07Speaker 3: the r slash showcase story time subreddit.
- 4:09Speaker 4: I'm Sophia.
- 4:10Speaker 3: I'm Savannah.
- 4:11Speaker 1: I'm Riley.
- 4:14Speaker 3: And we're here to give good advice goofily. But we
- 4:17Speaker 3: don't have all the answers. We only know what we know.
- 4:19Speaker 3: So if you know something more, prove it. NOP continues.
- 4:23Speaker 3: Before I left the car, I told him that I'd
- 4:25Speaker 3: love him even if his parents were telling the truth.
- 4:29Speaker 3: And he went to work. Late shift. When he came back,
- 4:32Speaker 3: he told me the truth. I don't think that's a
- 4:34Speaker 3: promise you can make, though. I'd love you even if
- 4:37Speaker 3: you were lying to me this whole time. I feel
- 4:39Speaker 3: like she doesn't mean that.
- 4:40Speaker 4: I wouldn't. I'd be like, so tell me or we're
- 4:45Speaker 4: breaking up. And then after you tell me, I'm going
- 4:47Speaker 4: to break up with you anyway.
- 4:48Speaker 2: Yes.
- 4:49Speaker 3: Showed me his birth certificate and some photos. Told me,
- 4:52Speaker 3: who knows, a story about why he's been lying for
- 4:56Speaker 3: the last... 10 years. He was punted out or ran
- 5:00Speaker 3: away from home when he was 15 and lived in
- 5:03Speaker 3: a friend's basement for a half a year. When there
- 5:05Speaker 3: was talk of getting CPS involved, he lied and has
- 5:09Speaker 3: kept it up ever since. He even changed his very
- 5:12Speaker 3: traditional name to an English one and explained it by
- 5:16Speaker 3: saying his parents forcibly renamed him to make him fit in.
- 5:19Speaker 3: And he decided to take his name back. We talk
- 5:22Speaker 3: English together because he says it makes him more comfortable.
- 5:26Speaker 3: He told his parents and family he changed his name
- 5:28Speaker 3: because he didn't like it. I still mean what I said.
- 5:31Speaker 3: I care for him, even though he's been lying. I
- 5:33Speaker 3: said it doesn't change the fact that he's a kind, hardworking,
- 5:37Speaker 3: caring person, and I made the demand that he see
- 5:40Speaker 3: a psychiatrist, and that he just has to suck up
- 5:42Speaker 3: the price because his mental health is more important. Small edit,
- 5:45Speaker 3: which he agreed to do, but is this nuts? He
- 5:49Speaker 3: wanted to buy a house since before we met, and
- 5:51Speaker 3: we had a talk about how the house should fit
- 5:53Speaker 3: us five years ahead. He visited his parents to show
- 5:56Speaker 3: them the one he set on. I really want some
- 5:58Speaker 3: outsider perspective here, and I'm not ready to expose him
- 6:01Speaker 3: by talking to my friends about this yet. What do
- 6:04Speaker 3: you guys think? We've got relevant comments. What do you think, Savannah?
- 6:08Speaker 4: I'm still confused by this story.
- 6:09Speaker 3: I don't even get what his response was.
- 6:12Speaker 4: He said, oh, well, I was punted out by my
- 6:16Speaker 4: parents at 15 years. And CPS involved.
- 6:19Speaker 3: So I had to lie about being adopted?
- 6:21Speaker 4: I don't believe that. Now, who is he with now?
- 6:24Speaker 4: He's with his parents. Yeah. So he's back with his parents.
- 6:27Speaker 4: I think he's lying. And has a good relationship with
- 6:29Speaker 4: them now? Yeah.
- 6:30Speaker 3: I think he's lying.
- 6:31Speaker 4: Still, even the story that he gave doesn't make any sense.
- 6:33Speaker 4: Because this is what I have written down. Boyfriend ran
- 6:35Speaker 4: away from home. Yes. He stayed at his friend's for
- 6:38Speaker 4: a year and a half. CPS got involved. And then
- 6:41Speaker 4: boyfriend changed his name.
- 6:43Speaker 3: Yes.
- 6:43Speaker 4: And went back to live with the parents.
- 6:44Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 6:45Speaker 3: Which doesn't make any sense. So what, what are you,
- 6:49Speaker 3: you're just a different persona now? Yeah. Like is that,
- 6:52Speaker 3: that's the only, and it seems like he originally maybe didn't,
- 6:55Speaker 3: he's saying that he, his like first language was not English,
- 6:59Speaker 3: but they speak English at home because he's more comfortable.
- 7:02Speaker 3: I feel like he's lying. I feel like he doesn't like,
- 7:04Speaker 3: have you ever seen him speak another language? I need that.
- 7:07Speaker 3: That's a question I need answered. Does he speak another language?
- 7:11Speaker 4: I'm not buying anything this man says truthfully. Still, even
- 7:15Speaker 4: the explanation makes no sense. It doesn't make sense. So
- 7:17Speaker 4: I'd just be like, all right, apparently you don't want
- 7:18Speaker 4: to tell me. Go on, live a life of lies.
- 7:20Speaker 4: Leave me out of it.
- 7:21Speaker 3: OP replies to a comment, he had no problem lying
- 7:24Speaker 3: to literally everyone. He made that clear when he changed
- 7:27Speaker 3: his name. This is absolutely the case of a lie
- 7:30Speaker 3: spiraling out of control, like you say. I don't think
- 7:33Speaker 3: you saw that he did come clean. He did this
- 7:36Speaker 3: on his own when it became clear that I was
- 7:37Speaker 3: wise to it. I did not specifically call him out
- 7:40Speaker 3: on it. He's already agreed to see a psychiatrist. Oh,
- 7:43Speaker 3: that was OP responding.
- 7:44Speaker 4: Somebody has something to say.
- 7:45Speaker 1: This would be the only reason I would be okay
- 7:50Speaker 1: with Angie lying to me. If my girlfriend said she
- 7:54Speaker 1: was working all the time and that is why she
- 7:58Speaker 1: can't see me all the time and she was covering herself.
- 8:02Speaker 1: But the truth is that she was superhero. I would
- 8:06Speaker 1: have to really look within myself and think about more
- 8:10Speaker 1: than just myself. And so many factors would go into it.
- 8:14Speaker 1: In the end, our relationship would mean more than just
- 8:18Speaker 1: being together with ourselves. IT will have the potential to
- 8:23Speaker 1: save more lives than our own.
- 8:27Speaker 3: So true.
- 8:29Speaker 4: So if, if he's covering up because he was a superhero,
- 8:33Speaker 4: it'd be good. It's good. Then I'd be like, all right,
- 8:35Speaker 4: all right.
- 8:36Speaker 3: Well, maybe we'll learn that.
- 8:37Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 8:38Speaker 3: Vengeance pigeon says my personal gut feeling is that he's
- 8:41Speaker 3: still lying.
- 8:43Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 8:43Speaker 3: His new story doesn't make much more sense than the
- 8:45Speaker 3: old one.
- 8:45Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 8:46Speaker 3: And the blind one says CPS didn't get involved. His
- 8:48Speaker 3: friend's parents threatened to get, yeah, yeah. There was talk
- 8:50Speaker 3: about getting CPS involved, but like still doesn't make sense.
- 8:53Speaker 3: Like he has a good relationship with his parents. Now I, Yeah,
- 8:57Speaker 3: so he just ran away and then came back.
- 8:59Speaker 4: Yeah. It really doesn't seem like it's a trap. I mean, yeah,
- 9:03Speaker 4: that sucks. But why'd you have to lie? Yeah, his
- 9:06Speaker 4: parents wouldn't have a... I feel like.
- 9:08Speaker 3: They'd be more hesitant to talk about his childhood. Yeah.
- 9:11Speaker 4: They seemed so happy.
- 9:13Speaker 3: Right? I clocked that as well. OP says, you're right.
- 9:16Speaker 3: I'll see if I can get some verification on this
- 9:18Speaker 3: one as well. If he's lying about his parents being
- 9:21Speaker 3: harmful as well, I can't possibly stay. I honestly, I
- 9:25Speaker 3: wonder if this is some sort of like maybe he
- 9:27Speaker 3: has like bipolar or some other, you know, thing.
- 9:32Speaker 4: Compulsive liar.
- 9:33Speaker 3: Yeah, compulsive lying, something like that. Because I have known
- 9:36Speaker 3: people who were going through like a manic episode and,
- 9:41Speaker 3: you know, lied a bunch about stuff like this. So
- 9:45Speaker 3: I'm wondering if this is maybe, has he done it? Well,
- 9:47Speaker 3: I guess he's been lying this whole time. So like
- 9:49Speaker 3: did that, you know, what's going on? I would want
- 9:51Speaker 3: to look into it more. Edit says, scratch all that
- 9:54Speaker 3: about trying to be understanding and crap. Turns out he
- 9:57Speaker 3: is a compulsive liar.
- 9:58Speaker 4: Boom!
- 9:58Speaker 3: Wow, this is kind of like... one of the first
- 10:00Speaker 3: times I've been right, I think. I don't... You gotta
- 10:03Speaker 3: have been right before.
- 10:04Speaker 1: Maybe.
- 10:04Speaker 4: I don't know. It feels like the first time. It
- 10:06Speaker 4: feels like the biggest win.
- 10:09Speaker 3: And I barely know a single true thing about him.
- 10:11Speaker 3: This is like the sixth sense, where you've had a
- 10:13Speaker 3: weird feeling all through the movie, and at the end,
- 10:15Speaker 3: you get that aha moment. That explains everything.
- 10:19Speaker 4: Oh God. This is the Prestige X, actually.
- 10:22Speaker 3: I'm currently at my friend's house and honestly a little hungover.
- 10:25Speaker 3: I'll make a proper edit later. We've got an update.
- 10:27Speaker 4: Let's find out. Yeah, I got to know what this guy,
- 10:30Speaker 4: what is he been lying about? It's probably the dumbest
- 10:31Speaker 4: thing ever. I feel like his family was actually really good. Yeah,
- 10:35Speaker 4: and he's just like, I want a tragic past, but
- 10:37Speaker 4: I just didn't get that. So I have to make
- 10:39Speaker 4: one for myself.
- 10:40Speaker 3: I was trying to write my school, like my college thesis.
- 10:48Speaker 3: Like when you're applying to call the application letter. I
- 10:51Speaker 3: was trying to write my application letter, but I didn't
- 10:53Speaker 3: have a good enough story. I had to drive over
- 10:55Speaker 3: to his this morning to get my work uniform and
- 10:58Speaker 3: all my other stuff while I was at it. Okay,
- 11:00Speaker 3: Billy says, if Sam were here, he'd tell us about
- 11:02Speaker 3: his ex on the skirt. He would.
- 11:03Speaker 4: He would say that. I don't even know what that means.
- 11:05Speaker 3: He just had an ex who lied about a dress.
- 11:08Speaker 3: And he was like, why did you lie about that?
- 11:10Speaker 3: He keeps telling me we don't have to break up.
- 11:12Speaker 3: He loves me and wants to change for me. He's
- 11:14Speaker 3: got to stop it. Seek therapy. Fess up to everyone.
- 11:18Speaker 3: I have zero second thoughts about breaking up.
- 11:21Speaker 4: All of these.
- 11:21Speaker 3: Things are nice things to do, sure, but I'm not
- 11:23Speaker 3: going to stick around to watch. Yesterday, after writing this
- 11:26Speaker 3: and reading your responses, I went to visit him for
- 11:29Speaker 3: his lunch break, as we had already planned. And I
- 11:32Speaker 3: asked him straight up, was there anything else he had
- 11:35Speaker 3: lied about? He said, um, no, nothing that you could
- 11:39Speaker 3: think of. So I decided to help refresh his memory.
- 11:43Speaker 3: Anything I had doubts about, but never called him out on.
- 11:46Speaker 3: Other things he has lied about. Being sent to Afghanistan
- 11:49Speaker 3: as his army service. Dude, we read another story with
- 11:53Speaker 3: Kwesi about someone who I think also lied about going
- 11:57Speaker 3: to Afghanistan. Am I crazy? Or maybe it was just deployed.
- 12:00Speaker 4: Guys, uh, I'm about to confess something really crazy right now.
- 12:04Speaker 4: I was also deported. I also was deported. Deported? Sorry, sorry.
- 12:07Speaker 4: Deployed to Afghanistan. I was deported back to Afghanistan. You're
- 12:11Speaker 4: from Afghanistan?
- 12:13Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 12:13Speaker 4: The whole time you could have told everyone. What are
- 12:16Speaker 4: they over there? Afghanistanian. Afghanistanian. Is it? That's what I am.
- 12:21Speaker 3: Afghanian.
- 12:22Speaker 4: Rebel Riley says no.
- 12:23Speaker 3: I think it's Afghanian.
- 12:24Speaker 4: Afghanian. Afghan? They are. Is it just Afghan? Called. Nope.
- 12:31Speaker 3: Number one, being sent to Afghanistan as his army's service.
- 12:35Speaker 3: He's never been there. Number two, owned part of a
- 12:38Speaker 3: small business importing cognac. No, his dad did. Number three,
- 12:43Speaker 3: he and his brother bought his parents their house. No,
- 12:46Speaker 3: he just helped them put down the floors. Number four,
- 12:50Speaker 3: owns three cars. One he bought for his father and
- 12:53Speaker 3: one for his brother.
- 12:54Speaker 4: Just, no.
- 12:55Speaker 3: That wine he served me on our third date was
- 12:58Speaker 3: wildly expensive and amazing. Something that had gone down as
- 13:01Speaker 3: one of her cute stories because I later told him
- 13:03Speaker 3: I didn't even like red wine. In reality, it's a
- 13:06Speaker 3: sort of nice one bought on holiday by, once again,
- 13:09Speaker 3: his dad. Number six was inches away from passing away
- 13:14Speaker 3: when his crazy stalker ex stabbed him in the lower
- 13:17Speaker 3: stomach area and she was sentenced to six months forced
- 13:21Speaker 3: psychiatric care. Oh my goodness. He's now saying that she
- 13:24Speaker 3: did stalk and stab him, but it was only a
- 13:26Speaker 3: flesh wound. Liar. He never even filed a police report.
- 13:30Speaker 3: This is the story he told the first time we met,
- 13:33Speaker 3: and it was absolutely horrifying. The amount of gruesome detail
- 13:37Speaker 3: I got. He has since repeated it several times while
- 13:40Speaker 3: in my company to my friends and his, and this
- 13:43Speaker 3: is effed up. That is insane. We just got freaking
- 13:47Speaker 3: like six insane lies. That he has lied about. Like,
- 13:51Speaker 3: big lies that he has lied about. Riley has something
- 13:54Speaker 3: to say.
- 13:55Speaker 4: Oh, by Riley. And.
- 13:57Speaker 1: I have a cousin who is a compulsive liar. He
- 14:01Speaker 1: just feels like he needs to lie about stuff. His
- 14:04Speaker 1: dad was the same way up until he went to jail.
- 14:08Speaker 1: I only lie about things to make a certain scenario
- 14:11Speaker 1: funnier or making a joke punch up with a bit
- 14:15Speaker 1: of pseudo-facts about my life.
- 14:18Speaker 3: Yes!
- 14:19Speaker 4: And those are all right.
- 14:20Speaker 3: And that's A-OK in my book.
- 14:22Speaker 4: Yeah. But as Christina says, he's still lying on his lies. Yeah,
- 14:27Speaker 4: he's adding layers to his lies. Yeah. A cake of lies.
- 14:32Speaker 4: I wrote them all down. One, two, three, four, five,
- 14:34Speaker 4: six so far. And I'm sure there's others. But I mean, like,
- 14:38Speaker 4: I just don't. Do you want to be more in? Christine? Yeah.
- 14:42Speaker 4: I think, well, it's also a compulsive thing, as he said.
- 14:45Speaker 4: And as you said, just like. So sometimes it's like.
- 14:48Speaker 4: There is no reason. It's like you could say, like
- 14:52Speaker 4: my sister exaggerates stuff. My older sister, when she tells stories,
- 14:55Speaker 4: she exaggerates. But she isn't like, lie. She's not like,
- 14:58Speaker 4: this happened and that never happened.
- 15:00Speaker 3: Yeah, my dad, my mom has an eternal gripe with
- 15:03Speaker 3: my dad because she thinks that he always exaggerates his stories.
- 15:07Speaker 3: And it was a whole thing growing up where my
- 15:09Speaker 3: aunt would be like, well, he would sometimes just make
- 15:12Speaker 3: up things to see if, because my aunt is really gullible,
- 15:15Speaker 3: to see if she would believe it.
- 15:16Speaker 4: And she always did. It was great.
- 15:18Speaker 3: And then my mom would be like, he's not telling
- 15:19Speaker 3: the truth. But now he doesn't do it as often anymore.
- 15:22Speaker 4: But because all of that history, people still don't believe him. Yeah.
- 15:27Speaker 4: You make your name for yourself. That's my grandpa's. His
- 15:30Speaker 4: nickname was Fibber. Yeah.
- 15:32Speaker 3: My dad.
- 15:33Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 15:34Speaker 3: Frank the Fibber.
- 15:35Speaker 4: Yeah. Mine was Michelangelo. But Fibber for short.
- 15:39Speaker 3: Oh. I'm still learning more, but I'm ready to go
- 15:42Speaker 3: no contact and have wiped my hands of the whole relationship.
- 15:46Speaker 3: I'm glad I found out now. A little conflicted on
- 15:49Speaker 3: whether I should tell his parents, since I have no
- 15:51Speaker 3: faith he'll do.
- 15:51Speaker 4: It on his own.
- 15:52Speaker 3: But I'm not sure the relationship could ever snap back
- 15:55Speaker 3: from that. We got final comments. OKBillyTime says, Sophia told
- 15:59Speaker 3: Sam false facts growing up, though. I did, but that
- 16:02Speaker 3: was for fun. And I always told them they were fake.
- 16:05Speaker 3: It would go something like this. I'd say, Did you
- 16:07Speaker 3: know this random fact? And he'd go, oh my God,
- 16:10Speaker 3: that's so cool. And I'd be like, well, it's not true. No,
- 16:14Speaker 3: my brother does that all the time. It's so fun.
- 16:17Speaker 4: He's just like, no, no, no. This is how you
- 16:19Speaker 4: do it. It's kind of an improv. No, it's not.
- 16:20Speaker 3: It's kind of like an improv thing. It's like an
- 16:22Speaker 3: improv exercise. How far can you go to get someone
- 16:25Speaker 3: to believe a fact? Because you have to make up
- 16:27Speaker 3: the fact. You're Gemini? No.
- 16:31Speaker 4: Cancer. Yeah, my brother's Gemini, which means he's two-faced. Which
- 16:34Speaker 4: means he immediately is like... I'll tell you to your face. No, no, like,
- 16:38Speaker 4: this is how it is. But then he's like.
- 16:40Speaker 3: I'm like... I mean, it's just stupid. Why lie?
- 16:43Speaker 1: Well, you are making lying a theater exercise.
- 16:46Speaker 4: Yeah, I am. Lying a theater exercise.
- 16:49Speaker 3: You should try it out as improvisers.
- 16:51Speaker 4: Like, you see.
- 16:52Speaker 3: Okay, so first you have to come up with it. Like,
- 16:54Speaker 3: you can't pre-plan it. You gotta come up with it
- 16:56Speaker 3: on the spot. And then you just, like, you just, like,
- 16:58Speaker 3: literally pull it out. Like, you're like, did you know
- 17:00Speaker 3: that the sun used to go behind... You just have
- 17:04Speaker 3: to make something up. And then you have to explain it.
- 17:08Speaker 3: Pull it out of your butt. And then you also
- 17:11Speaker 3: have to not laugh. Sometimes that part, that one's hard
- 17:14Speaker 3: for me.
- 17:14Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. Because I laugh. But if you do laugh,
- 17:16Speaker 4: then you have to convince the person that you're just
- 17:18Speaker 4: laughing at them.
- 17:19Speaker 3: Because how did they.
- 17:19Speaker 4: Not know that? Not this Gemini. But we got a
- 17:23Speaker 4: little bit left.
- 17:25Speaker 1: I think that you don't have enough sweaters for a
- 17:27Speaker 1: girl that lives in California.
- 17:30Speaker 3: That's a lie. Now that's a lie. Because I've got
- 17:33Speaker 3: tons of sweaters.
- 17:34Speaker 4: I have sweaters, too. I just never really wear them.
- 17:36Speaker 3: I wear so many sweaters.
- 17:37Speaker 4: Because it's pretty hot. Pretty hot here, you know?
- 17:40Speaker 3: When asked to clear up the name, adoption, and English
- 17:42Speaker 3: speaking from the original post, I changed a few details
- 17:45Speaker 3: to obscure our identities in case anyone he knows reads this.
- 17:49Speaker 3: But I don't care about protecting his lies anymore. We're
- 17:53Speaker 3: in Norway. He said he was adopted from the UK.
- 17:57Speaker 3: Changed his name to an English one when he was 21.
- 18:00Speaker 3: and explained to people that it was his original name
- 18:03Speaker 3: from before he was adopted, that his parents had renamed
- 18:06Speaker 3: him to a Norwegian one when he came here. In reality,
- 18:09Speaker 3: he's born and raised in the same little city as me.
- 18:12Speaker 3: OP on why she never questioned anything. It feels so
- 18:16Speaker 3: terrible that these were such traumatic stories that I wanted
- 18:18Speaker 3: to help and support him because it was all so tragic. But,
- 18:22Speaker 3: you know, it's too tragic. And what are you going
- 18:25Speaker 3: to do? Someone is practically crying from sharing intimate details
- 18:28Speaker 3: and you say... Yeah, but do you have any proof?
- 18:32Speaker 3: And finally, I updated my post with all the other
- 18:35Speaker 3: things I found out that he lied about, and yup,
- 18:38Speaker 3: he only came clean when he got caught. I gave
- 18:41Speaker 3: him the chance, and he refused. That's the end of
- 18:45Speaker 3: that story.
- 18:45Speaker 4: So he lied for absolutely no reason.
- 18:47Speaker 3: He lied for absolutely no reason, and he still couldn't confess.
- 18:50Speaker 4: And I hate him. I hate liars, I can't.
- 18:53Speaker 3: I guess moral of the story is, if something feels
- 18:56Speaker 3: too good.
- 18:58Speaker 4: Sorry, I dropped it. Is it okay? Is it okay?
- 19:02Speaker 1: Okay.
- 19:03Speaker 4: It's a hearty phone.
- 19:04Speaker 3: If something feels too good to be true or too
- 19:06Speaker 3: bad to be true, it's probably not true.
- 19:10Speaker 4: Every day I spill my drink. Somehow. Oh, okay.
- 19:14Speaker 1: Do you have me, Savannah?
- 19:16Speaker 4: Do I have you? No, you're over there. I do
- 19:18Speaker 4: not have you.
- 19:19Speaker 1: Do you hate me, Savannah?
- 19:21Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, absolutely. My fiance wants to dance with her
- 19:25Speaker 4: late fiance's father at our wedding. I don't want her to.
- 19:30Speaker 4: Why not? Before we met, my fiance, Kayla, was engaged
- 19:34Speaker 4: to a man she had dated for three years who
- 19:37Speaker 4: passed away in a traffic accident.
- 19:39Speaker 2: Oh.
- 19:39Speaker 4: Terrible. Gosh, we just had one like this. I had
- 19:43Speaker 4: never dated a woman who had that kind of loss before,
- 19:47Speaker 4: so I've been learning as I go. But I've tried
- 19:49Speaker 4: to respond... that he will always be a part of
- 19:51Speaker 4: her story, and I accepted her relationship with her late
- 19:54Speaker 4: fiancé' s parents with open arms, as you should. They stayed
- 19:58Speaker 4: very close, and by the time we started dating, they
- 20:00Speaker 4: were basically like a second set of parents to her.
- 20:03Speaker 4: Kayla's real parents and her late fiancé' s parents are all
- 20:07Speaker 4: amazing people. so I consider myself pretty lucky to have
- 20:10Speaker 4: two sets of great-in-laws. Our wedding is coming up in May,
- 20:14Speaker 4: and Kayla told me that after her father-daughter dance, she
- 20:18Speaker 4: would like to have a second dance with her late
- 20:20Speaker 4: fiancé' s father to the song Vanilla Twilight. How did that go?
- 20:25Speaker 4: But drenched in vanilla twilight, I'll sit on the front
- 20:28Speaker 4: porch all night, waist deep in thought because when I
- 20:31Speaker 4: think of you, I don't feel so alone. Who is this?
- 20:35Speaker 4: Owl City. Who does Fireflies?
- 20:37Speaker 3: I was about to say, I was like, why does
- 20:38Speaker 3: this sound like Fireflies?
- 20:39Speaker 4: Wait, really?
- 20:40Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, what?
- 20:41Speaker 4: That's crazy. You caught that. That's funny. You really had
- 20:46Speaker 4: that in the back pocket. I love Vanilla Twilight. Oh,
- 20:48Speaker 4: I was a big Owl City fan when they first
- 20:50Speaker 4: came out.
- 20:51Speaker 3: I loved Owl City purely because I think they played
- 20:54Speaker 3: it in Guardians of Ghoul. Have you ever heard Bird
- 20:58Speaker 3: and the Worm?
- 20:59Speaker 4: That one's great.
- 21:01Speaker 3: I don't see anything wrong with this yet. Her dancing
- 21:05Speaker 3: with her ex-fiance's father. Yeah, no.
- 21:07Speaker 4: I think that it's nice.
- 21:08Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 21:08Speaker 4: I think it's nice, sentimental, and it's not going to
- 21:10Speaker 4: take away from your day. No. It's something she wants
- 21:12Speaker 4: to do to memorialize him, you know?
- 21:14Speaker 3: I mean, like, it might not even be that. Like,
- 21:17Speaker 3: it could be that. But also, it's like, she just
- 21:20Speaker 3: likes her, you know, she has a parent relationship with
- 21:22Speaker 3: her father.
- 21:22Speaker 4: Yeah, she's in love.
- 21:23Speaker 3: Her ex-father-in-law.
- 21:24Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 21:25Speaker 3: I don't see anything wrong with it yet.
- 21:26Speaker 4: She asked me if I was comfortable with that. and
- 21:29Speaker 4: I didn't want to be that guy and say no,
- 21:32Speaker 4: so I said yes. Now I don't like you.
- 21:34Speaker 3: Yeah, just be honest and say, hey, I'm a little uncomfortable, but, like,
- 21:37Speaker 3: let's talk through it.
- 21:38Speaker 4: Yeah. By the way, this comes from Anxious Journalist 2,
- 21:42Speaker 4: and if you want to submit your own stories, go
- 21:43Speaker 4: to the r slash OKStoryTime subreddit. I'm Savannah.
- 21:46Speaker 3: I'm Sophia.
- 21:47Speaker 4: Hold, please.
- 21:48Speaker 1: I'm Riley.
- 21:50Speaker 3: I'm Riley.
- 21:51Speaker 4: And we are here to talk about some stuff and
- 21:53Speaker 4: give some advice, but we don't have all of your answers.
- 21:56Speaker 4: We only know what we know. But let us know
- 21:59Speaker 4: what you would do down in the comments. As OP says,
- 22:03Speaker 4: But really, it makes me uncomfortable that she would be
- 22:05Speaker 4: dancing to a love song dedicated to another man at
- 22:08Speaker 4: our wedding. I am happy to make space in our
- 22:11Speaker 4: lives for his memory. A photo of him is on
- 22:14Speaker 4: our mantle at home. We make it a point to
- 22:16Speaker 4: commemorate his birthday and the anniversary of his passing. And
- 22:20Speaker 4: I feel like I am understanding and supportive when she
- 22:23Speaker 4: has bad days. And I am 100% fine with... with
- 22:27Speaker 4: having his parents at the wedding because, like I said,
- 22:30Speaker 4: we are all family. But I also feel like our
- 22:32Speaker 4: wedding is one day that is all about our relationship.
- 22:36Speaker 4: Am I the knucklehead if I ask her to reconsider
- 22:40Speaker 4: this dance? What are the best compromises here? And there
- 22:43Speaker 4: are some comments.
- 22:44Speaker 3: See, I guess I didn't see it that way. And
- 22:47Speaker 3: I guess you need to ask her if this is
- 22:50Speaker 3: specifically to show the love I had for my fiancé
- 22:53Speaker 3: or if this is... to commemorate my relationship with her ex-father-in-law.
- 22:59Speaker 3: Because I think there is a difference there. Yes.
- 23:02Speaker 4: I think that this is allowed. It's something that she,
- 23:06Speaker 4: you know, it could even be like a send-off, you know,
- 23:09Speaker 4: to be like, I'm letting go of this chapter. Also
- 23:12Speaker 4: could be that, yeah. And it has nothing to do
- 23:14Speaker 4: with you, OP. You're making it about you. And it
- 23:16Speaker 4: really technically has nothing to do with you. You should
- 23:20Speaker 4: just be supportive and be like, if this is what
- 23:21Speaker 4: you want, I completely support it. I am okay with
- 23:25Speaker 4: you just getting that. I understand how you want it
- 23:27Speaker 4: just to be about you guys. It's always been like
- 23:30Speaker 4: you guys plus him. I get that. But, you know,
- 23:34Speaker 4: Emma Wilkins, she's not ready.
- 23:36Speaker 3: She might not be.
- 23:37Speaker 4: And that's not your burden to bear, you know?
- 23:39Speaker 3: I guess. So we read another story.
- 23:42Speaker 4: I don't know if you were there.
- 23:43Speaker 3: We read another story where someone wanted to do a
- 23:46Speaker 3: whole like memorial, what's it called?
- 23:50Speaker 4: Like slideshow.
- 23:52Speaker 3: To honor their deceased fiance at their wedding. And I
- 23:58Speaker 3: was like, no, that's weird. That doesn't feel like, okay.
- 24:02Speaker 3: This feels a little different to me because it's a
- 24:05Speaker 3: dance with a person that she sees as a father figure.
- 24:10Speaker 4: Yeah, I would think the slideshow's weird.
- 24:12Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if OP is, because I don't, at
- 24:15Speaker 3: least so far, I feel like she hasn't explicitly said
- 24:18Speaker 3: this is to honor the love that I have for him.
- 24:21Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 24:22Speaker 3: I really want to know. I really want him to ask,
- 24:24Speaker 3: is it because of the relationship you have with the
- 24:26Speaker 3: father or is it about.
- 24:29Speaker 4: It also may be she feels bad. He'll never have that. Maybe.
- 24:33Speaker 3: And Katie Paladin, she's doing both. So she's doing a
- 24:36Speaker 3: father daughter dance with her dad and she wanted to
- 24:38Speaker 3: do it with this guy who she sees as a
- 24:40Speaker 3: father figure.
- 24:41Speaker 4: Yeah. So technically she thinks of him as her second dad. Yeah.
- 24:44Speaker 3: Who like, you know, probably thought he would do that
- 24:47Speaker 3: with her. Maybe, you know, I don't know. I don't
- 24:50Speaker 3: see it.
- 24:51Speaker 4: Super bad but maybe maybe we're gonna learn more there
- 24:55Speaker 4: are some comments comment number one says not the a-hole
- 24:58Speaker 4: also it's weird to have a picture of him on
- 24:59Speaker 4: the mantle it's a tragic loss but she needs to
- 25:02Speaker 4: move on or you do i disagree i disagree with
- 25:05Speaker 4: that as well i think you can have a picture
- 25:07Speaker 4: of someone you've lost on the mantle my mom has
- 25:09Speaker 4: a whole like thing for my deceased pets yeah like
- 25:15Speaker 4: my dog and my cat like i don't think there's
- 25:16Speaker 4: anything there's a little thing but let's You know, it's
- 25:19Speaker 4: just their ashes and stuff. Yeah. If she was.
- 25:21Speaker 3: Constantly mentioning him and like... There are levels. There are levels.
- 25:25Speaker 3: And there would be one that would be inappropriate. It
- 25:27Speaker 3: doesn't seem that OP finds that inappropriate. Yeah. He was
- 25:30Speaker 3: just uncomfortable with this, which regardless how I feel about this,
- 25:34Speaker 3: he should express that he's uncomfortable.
- 25:37Speaker 4: Yeah. Yes. He needs to say something to her. They
- 25:39Speaker 4: need to have that conversation. Exactly.
- 25:40Speaker 3: Because so far he's just said yes.
- 25:42Speaker 4: He's been very appreciative and, you know... caring about this
- 25:47Speaker 4: whole situation. Yeah. When in reality, is that like, are
- 25:50Speaker 4: you lying? Yeah. Is that how you feel? Yeah.
- 25:52Speaker 3: I think he needs to express it because right now
- 25:55Speaker 3: all she's done, I think she hasn't done anything wrong yet. Yeah.
- 25:58Speaker 3: Because she just asked a question.
- 26:00Speaker 4: Exactly. And he said yes.
- 26:01Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 26:02Speaker 4: So I would think, okay, he's on board.
- 26:03Speaker 3: Exactly.
- 26:04Speaker 4: Like you're saying yes. I'm going with yes. Yeah. OP responds,
- 26:07Speaker 4: I definitely don't feel disrespected. We have traveled to six
- 26:11Speaker 4: countries together and have plenty of photos and mementos of
- 26:14Speaker 4: us pretty much all over the house. The single photo
- 26:17Speaker 4: of him does not bother me at all. Comment number
- 26:20Speaker 4: two says, Not the a-hole. You might want to honestly
- 26:23Speaker 4: ask her to sit down and reconsider if she is
- 26:25Speaker 4: ready to be married to someone else, though. She still
- 26:28Speaker 4: sounds very much invested in this other man, whether he
- 26:31Speaker 4: is alive or not. And she just doesn't sound ready
- 26:34Speaker 4: to commit to another person. OP responds, I guess it
- 26:37Speaker 4: sounds like he is constantly on her mind because I
- 26:40Speaker 4: only wrote two paragraphs yesterday. That we're wholly focused on
- 26:43Speaker 4: this issue. But it has been about seven years since
- 26:46Speaker 4: he passed away. And I think she has processed her
- 26:50Speaker 4: grief in a healthy way and doesn't dwell on it.
- 26:53Speaker 4: We have our own inside jokes and our own hobbies
- 26:55Speaker 4: and experiences that are unique to us. I can truly
- 26:58Speaker 4: say I'm marrying my favorite person in the world. That's
- 27:01Speaker 4: really sweet. That's so sweet.
- 27:04Speaker 3: I also feel like we haven't heard enough for anyone
- 27:06Speaker 3: to say that she's not ready. Yeah. We just don't
- 27:08Speaker 3: know enough about the relationship.
- 27:10Speaker 4: We are each other's absolute best friend. I don't have
- 27:13Speaker 4: any illusions that our life together will entail her forgetting
- 27:16Speaker 4: about her late fiance, nor would I want that. Two
- 27:19Speaker 4: anniversaries a year and a photo really doesn't represent a
- 27:22Speaker 4: significant portion of her thoughts and feelings. Comment number three says,
- 27:25Speaker 4: not the a-hole, but that doesn't mean she is one.
- 27:29Speaker 4: You already said you are okay with it. This day
- 27:32Speaker 4: would be about our relationship. Well, it is. Both people
- 27:36Speaker 4: are bringing their own baggage here. Hers happened to be
- 27:39Speaker 4: her passed away ex. OP responds, we don't ever refer
- 27:42Speaker 4: to him as an ex since they never broke up. Obviously,
- 27:46Speaker 4: if it was her ex, the whole idea would be
- 27:48Speaker 4: a non-starter. I see your perspective, but I'm struggling with it.
- 27:53Speaker 4: To be honest, although I think I am generally good
- 27:56Speaker 4: about her grief, I have asked a lot of her
- 27:58Speaker 4: in the relationship. She has moved cities and jobs for me.
- 28:02Speaker 4: So I have been thinking that just letting her have
- 28:04Speaker 4: this dance would be a way of paying her back
- 28:07Speaker 4: for all the sacrifices she's made for me. But I
- 28:11Speaker 4: also want to be genuinely okay with it and not
- 28:13Speaker 4: just do it to even an imaginary score. I agree
- 28:17Speaker 4: with that. Completely agree.
- 28:19Speaker 3: Don't do it if you're not uncomfortable because it's your
- 28:21Speaker 3: wedding too.
- 28:22Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 28:23Speaker 3: Like regardless of whether or not any of us think
- 28:26Speaker 3: this is okay or not.
- 28:28Speaker 4: The only thing that matters is you two. Exactly.
- 28:30Speaker 3: And it doesn't seem like she's going to be the
- 28:32Speaker 3: person who, if you said, yeah, I'm not really okay
- 28:36Speaker 3: with that, would come back and be like, how dare you?
- 28:39Speaker 3: I need this.
- 28:40Speaker 4: Yeah. It doesn't seem like that. Yeah. No, it seems,
- 28:44Speaker 4: it just seems like you need maybe another conversation to
- 28:47Speaker 4: discuss this and be like, you know, why are you
- 28:50Speaker 4: doing this? Get another explanation, have another conversation about it.
- 28:53Speaker 4: Instead of just being like, would you be okay with this? Yes.
- 28:55Speaker 3: You know, again, it could totally just be the relationship
- 28:58Speaker 3: she has with her ex father-in-law.
- 28:59Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 29:00Speaker 3: It could just be that.
- 29:01Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 29:01Speaker 3: And maybe, maybe the compromise is no romantic song. You know,
- 29:05Speaker 3: it's just like we pick a different song. Yeah. There
- 29:07Speaker 3: are many different things that a conversation would help bring
- 29:10Speaker 3: insight on. Yeah.
- 29:12Speaker 4: Cause I mean, that song is a very romantic song.
- 29:14Speaker 4: talks about how like the spaces between my fingers are
- 29:17Speaker 4: right where yours fit perfectly.
- 29:20Speaker 3: Oh damn wait that's sad yeah i don't know the
- 29:22Speaker 3: song oh it's such a good song yeah yeah maybe
- 29:27Speaker 3: maybe it's very romantic and just very like sentimental and just.
- 29:32Speaker 4: Yeah it's also a long song update five months later
- 29:36Speaker 4: all right let's see oh two months ago i married
- 29:39Speaker 4: the love of my life.
- 29:41Speaker 3: Yay did they do the song or not we'll find
- 29:44Speaker 3: out i.
- 29:45Speaker 4: Was thinking about this thread the other day how it
- 29:47Speaker 4: went and where my head was at when i made
- 29:50Speaker 4: it and i thought you guys might like an update
- 29:52Speaker 4: a little anticlimactically The thing I was stressing about was
- 29:56Speaker 4: a bit of a miscommunication, which probably happens a lot here. Yeah.
- 30:01Speaker 4: And there we go. Knew it.
- 30:03Speaker 3: Knew a conversation would fix everything.
- 30:05Speaker 4: Kayla wanted to dance with her late fiance, as I'll
- 30:08Speaker 4: go ahead and just call him Luke from now on,
- 30:10Speaker 4: his father at our wedding. And Vanilla Twilight was an
- 30:14Speaker 4: example of a song along the lines of what she wanted,
- 30:17Speaker 4: not the set in stone top choice like I had thought.
- 30:21Speaker 3: Well, there you go. Well, she's just like, oh, I
- 30:24Speaker 3: want that vibe or that like style of song or something.
- 30:27Speaker 4: Like just slow. It is very pretty. Yeah, it's slow
- 30:30Speaker 4: and just.
- 30:30Speaker 3: Yeah. So she's like, oh, sorry, like I can just
- 30:33Speaker 3: not do that song.
- 30:34Speaker 2: Hey, this is Riley, the host that can't really read
- 30:36Speaker 2: that well. We're going to get back to the stories,
- 30:37Speaker 2: but here's three minutes worth of ads from our sponsors.
- 30:41Speaker 4: I and a lot of commenters in the original thread
- 30:43Speaker 4: spent a lot of time over analyzing the lyrics to
- 30:46Speaker 4: that song, looking for hidden meaning in every word. While
- 30:49Speaker 4: it turns out she hadn't put much more thought into
- 30:52Speaker 4: the suggestion than This is a kind of sad song
- 30:55Speaker 4: that I like. We got together that night and she
- 30:58Speaker 4: had made several playlists of possible first dance songs for us.
- 31:02Speaker 4: Songs for when she walks down the aisle, music to
- 31:05Speaker 4: play at the reception, and song choices for her dance
- 31:08Speaker 4: with Luke's father. We spent hours listening to them all
- 31:11Speaker 4: and talking about the wedding. We even made a tournament-style
- 31:15Speaker 4: bracket for our first dance song in her journal and
- 31:18Speaker 4: put songs head-to-head against each other until the victor emerged.
- 31:22Speaker 4: That is so fun. Do you guys have first dance songs?
- 31:26Speaker 3: Yes.
- 31:26Speaker 4: Well, see, mine's not a first dance. It's first performance.
- 31:31Speaker 4: My partner will have to sing and dance with me.
- 31:34Speaker 4: You're a choreographer.
- 31:36Speaker 3: You could do that. Yes.
- 31:37Speaker 4: I have choreographed first dances.
- 31:39Speaker 3: Well, there you go.
- 31:40Speaker 4: What's yours, Riley?
- 31:41Speaker 1: Flaws and Sins by Juice WRLD.
- 31:44Speaker 3: Where did that go? Flaws and Sins by Juice WRLD.
- 31:52Speaker 4: Sounds like a really good first dance.
- 31:56Speaker 1: Wait, get into the lyrics or read the lyrics.
- 31:59Speaker 4: I'll read the lyrics. I'm the lightning. You're the thunder.
- 32:03Speaker 4: There's a difference between I need you and I want you. Girl,
- 32:07Speaker 4: I need you.
- 32:07Speaker 3: Good spicy sleep led to conversations getting a little deeper.
- 32:11Speaker 3: Tell me your darkest secrets. Crap, you wouldn't even tell Jesus.
- 32:15Speaker 3: My karma been tweaking so much I couldn't even believe
- 32:17Speaker 3: in karma. But you give me a reason to thank
- 32:19Speaker 3: God for all those recent falls. Percocet 38. I've been
- 32:22Speaker 3: getting off.
- 32:24Speaker 1: I've done chill down.
- 32:26Speaker 4: On the substances. Suck it like it's love. F me
- 32:29Speaker 4: like it's love.
- 32:31Speaker 3: No protection on my heart. God damn it. I've gone
- 32:34Speaker 3: hit raw. Traumatized from my past. Yeah, I keep a
- 32:37Speaker 3: log in my mind, in my head where that crap belongs.
- 32:41Speaker 3: They say you after my bread crap. I hope they wrong.
- 32:44Speaker 3: You always ran up the bands. We can have a ball.
- 32:47Speaker 3: Hit it from the back.
- 32:48Speaker 4: Humana.
- 32:48Speaker 3: Call a play and huddle up.
- 32:50Speaker 4: Hit it from the back. Humana.
- 32:51Speaker 3: Piss that good love in the bedroom. F you on
- 32:53Speaker 3: the Prada. Poke her face like Lady Gaga. Ride it
- 32:57Speaker 3: like a Mazda.
- 32:58Speaker 4: Zoom, zoom, zoom.
- 33:00Speaker 3: I'm all.
- 33:00Speaker 4: I'm really all in. I'm sure Andy's parents would love this.
- 33:05Speaker 4: Ride it like a Mazda. Your scars are really gorgeous. Percocet. Here,
- 33:08Speaker 4: I'm going to skip over it. Wow.
- 33:10Speaker 3: Atta boy. I've done turned to a man. Hot chills
- 33:13Speaker 3: when my skin is on your skin. You got to
- 33:16Speaker 3: catch a couple out the FNN. That mean Cupid ain't
- 33:20Speaker 3: give you a headshot. So I ain't got no choice
- 33:23Speaker 3: but to leave you with a headshot.
- 33:25Speaker 4: Okay.
- 33:26Speaker 3: Wear your ring finger out. I need wedlock. Got my
- 33:29Speaker 3: sights on your butt. Oh, red dot.
- 33:32Speaker 4: We some bats that made it out of hell. Oh,
- 33:34Speaker 4: red hot. Yeah. Okay.
- 33:36Speaker 3: So that's kind of that's Riley's song.
- 33:38Speaker 4: That's okay.
- 33:39Speaker 1: Maybe not.
- 33:46Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually choreographed... Well, actually, I choreographed my.
- 33:50Speaker 1: When you say it like that.
- 33:53Speaker 4: When you say it like that... I choreographed my brother's
- 33:56Speaker 4: first dance to All I Ask of You by Family
- 34:00Speaker 4: Opera while me and my ex sang it.
- 34:02Speaker 3: I think Down the Aisle... I don't really know what
- 34:04Speaker 3: first dance gotta be. Down the Aisle has to be either...
- 34:07Speaker 3: Lord of the Rings.
- 34:09Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 34:09Speaker 3: Lord of the Rings, some Studio Ghibli song, or... Maybe
- 34:15Speaker 3: like Harry Potter, I don't know. One of those like
- 34:17Speaker 3: made it to.
- 34:18Speaker 4: He walked down the aisle.
- 34:21Speaker 3: No, not that one. But there's like a lot of
- 34:24Speaker 3: really beautiful arrangements. I think Lord of the Rings or
- 34:27Speaker 3: Studio Ghibli would be really good. Like Howl's Moving Castle.
- 34:30Speaker 4: My friend walked down the aisle to something from Twilight.
- 34:35Speaker 4: There's like a really pretty song in Twilight that she, no,
- 34:38Speaker 4: and it actually was like, oh my God, I immediately
- 34:41Speaker 4: cried as soon as she came.
- 34:42Speaker 2: I was like.
- 34:43Speaker 4: I think it has to be some sort of Studio
- 34:45Speaker 4: Ghibli song because that'll just make me cry. Yeah, I
- 34:47Speaker 4: don't know what song I'm going to walk down the
- 34:48Speaker 4: aisle to, but I know my first performance. Oh, there
- 34:51Speaker 4: you go.
- 34:51Speaker 3: But wait, what happened in this story? Sorry, I was
- 34:54Speaker 3: reading Juice WRLD.
- 34:55Speaker 4: I did my friends whose dance I choreographed for them
- 34:59Speaker 4: was a waltz.
- 35:00Speaker 3: Love.
- 35:01Speaker 4: And I also choreographed her and her dad's dance too.
- 35:03Speaker 3: That's so cute.
- 35:04Speaker 4: And I had to send them a video because obviously
- 35:07Speaker 4: I don't live in Ohio. It's funny. All right, let's
- 35:10Speaker 4: do this. At the end, we talked about the wedding
- 35:13Speaker 4: and our relationship. Luke and their relationship and grief. What
- 35:17Speaker 4: it was like when she lost him and what it
- 35:20Speaker 4: was like for me when I lost my mom at
- 35:22Speaker 4: a young age. What a family is and all the
- 35:24Speaker 4: things we're hopeful for for the future. We stayed up
- 35:28Speaker 4: until three in the morning just talking and planning and
- 35:30Speaker 4: laughing and crying a little. And I'm so glad for it.
- 35:33Speaker 4: After getting bombarded by dozens of different opinions from dozens
- 35:37Speaker 4: of different people earlier that day, I had been worried
- 35:40Speaker 4: that I was going to have a conflict with my
- 35:42Speaker 4: fiancé shortly before our wedding, but there was no conflict,
- 35:45Speaker 4: just a pure memory. After that night, I started putting
- 35:48Speaker 4: in more effort to be involved with the wedding planning
- 35:51Speaker 4: process and actually asked for things I wanted, which Kayla
- 35:55Speaker 4: actually really appreciated. Yay!
- 35:57Speaker 3: So cute.
- 35:59Speaker 4: I would appreciate that too. I'd be like, do you
- 36:00Speaker 4: have any ideas?
- 36:01Speaker 3: Yeah, I would hate to be like planning for a
- 36:04Speaker 3: wedding and be like, any thoughts from the peanut gallery?
- 36:07Speaker 3: You know, like you've been awfully quiet.
- 36:09Speaker 4: So like, what do you want the centerpieces to be?
- 36:12Speaker 3: Is it just me planning everything?
- 36:14Speaker 4: We also took a long weekend a couple of weeks
- 36:16Speaker 4: before the wedding to go on a camping trip together
- 36:18Speaker 4: for just the two of us, which I highly recommend
- 36:21Speaker 4: to anyone who is getting married.
- 36:23Speaker 3: Well, I won't go camping, but Airbnb sounds great.
- 36:27Speaker 4: Yeah. I'll go to a pretty place, sleep in a bed. Overall,
- 36:31Speaker 4: there was a complete flip in my feelings leading up
- 36:33Speaker 4: to the wedding. From being somewhat insecure and excited, but nervous,
- 36:38Speaker 4: to being completely at ease, excited, and feeling stronger about
- 36:41Speaker 4: my relationship than ever.
- 36:43Speaker 1: Good.
- 36:43Speaker 4: All because of communication. And you know what? Communication wins.
- 36:46Speaker 3: Communication saves the freaking day.
- 36:49Speaker 4: The wedding day itself was really wonderful and worth the wait.
- 36:53Speaker 4: Kayla and Luke's father had their dance to lean on me.
- 36:57Speaker 4: And I also had a dance with Kayla's mom and
- 36:59Speaker 4: it was very emotional in a good way. I was
- 37:01Speaker 4: going to say, who are you dancing with? Because his
- 37:03Speaker 4: mom isn't there. Unless he had a stepmom maybe, you know?
- 37:06Speaker 3: Well, I guess Kayla's mom.
- 37:07Speaker 4: Yeah, that's very sweet. I really feel that the day
- 37:10Speaker 4: was a celebration of our love. And I was genuinely
- 37:12Speaker 4: happy that Luke's parents were there to celebrate along with
- 37:15Speaker 4: us because they are very much members of our family.
- 37:18Speaker 4: My amazing wife is who she is because of all
- 37:21Speaker 4: the experiences that she has had in her life. And
- 37:24Speaker 4: I don't want to be the kind of man who
- 37:26Speaker 4: asks her to pretend that she has never loved before
- 37:29Speaker 4: me or pretend that her grief is something that is
- 37:32Speaker 4: or should be done with forever now that she has me.
- 37:36Speaker 4: I just want to say how glad I am that
- 37:39Speaker 4: we shared that night together and that the wedding was
- 37:42Speaker 4: nothing but love and celebration. I never thought I could
- 37:45Speaker 4: be so happy. And there are some comments. Yay! It's just,
- 37:49Speaker 4: it sounds perfect.
- 37:50Speaker 3: Yay! I knew, I knew. I knew it'd be fine.
- 37:53Speaker 3: I had a lot of faith in y'all. I knew
- 37:55Speaker 3: it'd be fine. Like, you... Never any doubt in my mind.
- 38:00Speaker 4: It's just, you guys communicated your needs. And some people, like, that's... That's, like,
- 38:05Speaker 4: out of this world for some people. Yeah, some people
- 38:06Speaker 4: just cannot do that. They don't get it. It's like, wait,
- 38:08Speaker 4: communicate what I want? Oh, God. And I'm the same way.
- 38:11Speaker 4: I get weird about communicating the things that I want. Like,
- 38:14Speaker 4: I get really weird. I'm like, I don't want to
- 38:15Speaker 4: put anyone, like, in a weird position. Ah! I just
- 38:18Speaker 4: won't say anything. I'll do everything that everyone wants and
- 38:20Speaker 4: then I'll complain about it later. And that's on me
- 38:22Speaker 4: having no backbone. And that's on the lack of communication.
- 38:25Speaker 4: That's on lack of communication, guys. Don't do that. But
- 38:28Speaker 4: don't do that. Don't do it. There are some comments.
- 38:32Speaker 4: Comment number one says, wait, you dealt with it like
- 38:35Speaker 4: an adult instead of overreacting and following the advice of
- 38:37Speaker 4: randos on the internet? OP responds, it seems obvious now. Yay!
- 38:43Speaker 4: It's funny because when Kayla would ask people online or
- 38:46Speaker 4: talk to regular people about her loss, she'd get responses like, oh,
- 38:50Speaker 4: seven years ago? That's ancient history. And basically acted like
- 38:54Speaker 4: she was broken if she was ever sad about Luke again.
- 38:57Speaker 4: And when she would talk to people in the grief community,
- 39:00Speaker 4: she never got that response. It was always, wow, so
- 39:03Speaker 4: you're just coming out of where it's very fresh, huh?
- 39:07Speaker 4: She recommended a podcast to me called OK Storytime that
- 39:10Speaker 4: I found enormously helpful, not just with understanding her feelings,
- 39:14Speaker 4: but processing some of my own feelings about my late mom,
- 39:17Speaker 4: who I had a difficult relationship with. Yeah. Going back
- 39:21Speaker 4: to the rather just over the giggling. What are you
- 39:24Speaker 4: giggling about? What are you giggling? Yeah, we do that, too,
- 39:27Speaker 4: with OK Storytime. We do.
- 39:29Speaker 3: That too.
- 39:29Speaker 4: We do. We do deal with grief. I was going
- 39:32Speaker 4: to say about.
- 39:32Speaker 3: Going back to like the mental... The mantle piece. You know,
- 39:36Speaker 3: putting the picture on the mantle piece. The mantle piece.
- 39:39Speaker 3: The mantle piece. Putting the picture on the mantle piece.
- 39:42Speaker 3: I feel like if you think about it in any
- 39:44Speaker 3: other situation. Like, let's say OP lost his mom.
- 39:48Speaker 1: And.
- 39:49Speaker 3: Would, like, would you expect, like, it'd be kind of
- 39:52Speaker 3: crazy if anyone expected him to take a picture of
- 39:54Speaker 3: his mom down, you know? Because it's been seven years. I, yes.
- 39:58Speaker 4: I agree. My mom has pictures of my grandma, like, everywhere. Exactly.
- 40:02Speaker 3: So, like, why are we saying that just because you're
- 40:05Speaker 3: in a new relationship, you can't, like, if you lost
- 40:07Speaker 3: a person, it's not an ex. It's a person you lost.
- 40:09Speaker 3: They passed away.
- 40:10Speaker 4: Like. Yeah.
- 40:11Speaker 3: There are obviously boundaries that should be put in place
- 40:15Speaker 3: so that the next partner doesn't feel, you know. like
- 40:18Speaker 3: they're having to compete.
- 40:19Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 40:20Speaker 3: But there shouldn't be an expectation to completely.
- 40:22Speaker 4: Forget about that. I agree.
- 40:23Speaker 3: Because it was still an important person in their life.
- 40:25Speaker 1: I have a pit cure with my great grandfather who
- 40:28Speaker 1: has passed away in my room.
- 40:31Speaker 3: And I love that. And I'm sure that, you know,
- 40:33Speaker 3: you're not going to, you're allowed. No one's going to
- 40:35Speaker 3: tell you in seven years, Oh, get over. It's been
- 40:38Speaker 3: seven years.
- 40:39Speaker 4: Yeah. You know?
- 40:40Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 40:41Speaker 4: I mean, I know no matter what grief is grief
- 40:44Speaker 4: and it comes and goes. Yeah. It always like, It's
- 40:48Speaker 4: never ending, truthfully. It is never ending. It's like I
- 40:51Speaker 4: can still think, you know, fun times about, you know,
- 40:55Speaker 4: my grandparents or whatever and like get emotional.
- 40:58Speaker 3: Yeah. Like I lost my uncle during 2020. And, you know,
- 41:03Speaker 3: I don't cry. Like I don't cry all the time
- 41:06Speaker 3: or anything. But I think about him and I, again,
- 41:10Speaker 3: as you said, I get emotional.
- 41:11Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 41:11Speaker 3: Because this was a very, you know, he was very important.
- 41:14Speaker 4: Exactly. Exactly.
- 41:15Speaker 3: And, you know, like, it doesn't matter how long it's been.
- 41:18Speaker 3: Because when you think about those moments, you get transported
- 41:21Speaker 3: right back. Yeah.
- 41:22Speaker 4: Comment number two says, I mean, if Luke hadn't passed away,
- 41:26Speaker 4: your wife would be with him.
- 41:27Speaker 3: I hate that idea.
- 41:28Speaker 4: I hate that.
- 41:30Speaker 3: Like, if, if, you know, like, why are we what if-ing?
- 41:33Speaker 3: What if he didn't pass away? She wouldn't be with you. So?
- 41:36Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 41:37Speaker 3: If I was a frog, I would be a frog.
- 41:39Speaker 4: There you go.
- 41:40Speaker 3: My boyfriend would not date me if I were a frog.
- 41:42Speaker 1: But look who is still standing.
- 41:43Speaker 4: What? Look who's still standing. Look who's still standing.
- 41:46Speaker 3: It's like that, there's that movie with, I'm forgetting her name.
- 41:49Speaker 3: She's one of the Olsen people, Elizabeth Olsen. And she's
- 41:52Speaker 3: like in the afterlife and she's being forced to choose
- 41:55Speaker 3: between the husband that she had when she was younger,
- 41:58Speaker 3: but lost him. So she was like in her twenties
- 42:01Speaker 3: and then, or between the husband that she had for
- 42:05Speaker 3: the rest of her life. So it's like, which, like
- 42:07Speaker 3: my first love or this person that I grew old with.
- 42:11Speaker 3: And I actually haven't seen the movie, but. So I
- 42:13Speaker 3: won't spoil it.
- 42:14Speaker 4: I watched that movie with John. Yeah.
- 42:16Speaker 3: But it's like, why would, you know, like you don't like,
- 42:19Speaker 3: she didn't, she didn't not love her. Like she lost
- 42:22Speaker 3: that person, but like she made a new love with
- 42:25Speaker 3: the next person. It's like, why are like situations happen
- 42:29Speaker 3: and we just kind of keep going. Yeah.
- 42:31Speaker 4: Like if my, like, it's like if an ex didn't
- 42:34Speaker 4: break up with you, you'd still be with them. Like, okay. Yeah.
- 42:39Speaker 3: But they did, but they did, but that didn't happen.
- 42:41Speaker 4: So yeah. If, If my ex wasn't mean, sure, I'd
- 42:45Speaker 4: be with him. Exactly.
- 42:46Speaker 3: It's like, what ifs are stupid?
- 42:47Speaker 4: Yeah. Opie responds, this line of thinking has never bothered
- 42:52Speaker 4: me because it can be applied to so many other situations.
- 42:55Speaker 4: All of life is millions of branching paths of choices
- 42:58Speaker 4: that we do and do not make. It doesn't bother
- 43:01Speaker 4: me to think that my wife would be with Luke
- 43:03Speaker 4: if he hadn't passed away because, well, he has passed away.
- 43:07Speaker 4: So that is not the situation. And it is only
- 43:09Speaker 4: because that happened that my wife became the person I
- 43:12Speaker 4: fell in love with. I have an ex-partner who I
- 43:14Speaker 4: was very much in love with years ago, but we
- 43:16Speaker 4: split up due to circumstances beyond either of our control.
- 43:20Speaker 4: If that hadn't happened, then there's a good chance I
- 43:23Speaker 4: would be married to her instead. But that's not the situation.
- 43:26Speaker 4: That doesn't diminish the love that I have for my wife.
- 43:29Speaker 4: And my wife, having lost someone very dear to her,
- 43:32Speaker 4: doesn't diminish the love she has for me.
- 43:34Speaker 3: Period.
- 43:35Speaker 4: That was great. I loved that.
- 43:37Speaker 3: Yeah. I also loved that.
- 43:39Speaker 4: Yeah. There he goes, folks. There he goes.
- 43:42Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't.
- 43:43Speaker 4: Again, there's no timeline for grief. You can still grief anything.
- 43:46Speaker 4: You know, you can even grief your phone passing away.
- 43:51Speaker 3: My married coworker confessed she's fallen in love with me.
- 43:55Speaker 4: Oh, yikes.
- 43:56Speaker 3: Not good. I, 26 male, just started working with a
- 44:00Speaker 3: great woman, 30 female, a few months ago. And we
- 44:03Speaker 3: started talking during our coffee and lunch breaks. We really
- 44:06Speaker 3: hit it off and agree on a lot of things.
- 44:09Speaker 3: Our backgrounds, our beliefs, our habits, etc., However, much as
- 44:13Speaker 3: the title says, she's married. What's more, she told me
- 44:16Speaker 3: that she's fallen in love with me in a way
- 44:19Speaker 3: she hasn't with her current husband. She says there's nothing
- 44:22Speaker 3: wrong with her husband and that there is no hostility
- 44:25Speaker 3: or resentment in her marriage, just that her husband's away
- 44:28Speaker 3: from home a lot of the time. So there's a
- 44:30Speaker 3: big gap in her life that is only filled when
- 44:32Speaker 3: he visits her on the weekends. Okay, Riley's laughing again,
- 44:36Speaker 3: probably because she said a big gap that he fills.
- 44:39Speaker 4: Because he never listens.
- 44:40Speaker 1: And it is hard for her, and she need to
- 44:43Speaker 1: be filled.
- 44:44Speaker 4: Yep, and there it is.
- 44:46Speaker 3: How did I know? Or in this circumstance, during coffee
- 44:49Speaker 3: break with me. She finds me attractive. She says I'm
- 44:52Speaker 3: very charming and very captivating and emotionally supportive. She can't
- 44:56Speaker 3: help but want to talk to me as much as
- 44:57Speaker 3: she can. Let me make something completely clear. I do
- 45:01Speaker 3: not want a romantic relationship. With this woman. As much
- 45:05Speaker 3: as I find her attractive and great to be around,
- 45:07Speaker 3: I simply can't and won't start anything with her.
- 45:11Speaker 4: Period.
- 45:11Speaker 3: There's too many factors at play here and too many
- 45:14Speaker 3: red flags for me to consider anything serious. She asked
- 45:17Speaker 3: me point blank if I was in love with her.
- 45:20Speaker 3: I replied by saying, I might have been if she
- 45:23Speaker 3: were single, but since she is not, I can't be
- 45:25Speaker 3: in love with her. So I'm not.
- 45:27Speaker 4: Very practical, Opie.
- 45:29Speaker 3: Opie's like, I can't and I won't be. I could
- 45:32Speaker 3: be if you weren't, but.
- 45:33Speaker 4: You are, so I'm not. If circumstances were different, sure.
- 45:36Speaker 4: But you're married.
- 45:37Speaker 3: If I were a frog, I'd be a frog, but
- 45:39Speaker 3: I'm not.
- 45:40Speaker 4: And therefore, I can't marry you.
- 45:41Speaker 3: Maybe.
- 45:42Speaker 4: Therefore, I cannot fill your gaps.
- 45:44Speaker 2: Hey, this is Riley, your favorite Southern belle. We're going
- 45:47Speaker 2: to get back to these stories, but here's three minutes
- 45:50Speaker 2: worth of ads from our sponsors.
- 45:52Speaker 3: Maybe in another life, but not this one. She has
- 45:55Speaker 3: another family to take care of and another partner in
- 45:57Speaker 3: her life. By the way, this comes from Asla Carton. 191.
- 46:01Speaker 3: And if you want to submit your own stories, go
- 46:04Speaker 3: to the r slash ok story time subreddit.
- 46:06Speaker 4: I'm Sophia. I'm Savannah.
- 46:08Speaker 1: I am Riley.
- 46:10Speaker 3: And we're here to give good advice goofily, but we
- 46:12Speaker 3: don't have all the answers. We only know what we'd do.
- 46:14Speaker 3: So let us know what you would do in the comments.
- 46:16Speaker 3: And Opie says... When she confessed to me, I told
- 46:19Speaker 3: her that as flattered as I am, I think she's
- 46:21Speaker 3: basically crushing on me because she isn't seeing her husband much.
- 46:25Speaker 4: To which she admitted.
- 46:26Speaker 3: and is aware of all the same, she says she
- 46:29Speaker 3: can't help but see me in a romantic light. I
- 46:31Speaker 3: enjoy talking with her as a friend, and don't really
- 46:34Speaker 3: want to completely lose that, because she really is a
- 46:37Speaker 3: wonderful human, and it's nice to talk with someone you
- 46:40Speaker 3: relate to. But I don't want to lead her on romantically,
- 46:43Speaker 3: or confuse her further. I told her to focus this
- 46:46Speaker 3: romantic energy on her marriage and her husband, to start
- 46:50Speaker 3: seeing her husband the same way she sees me, convince
- 46:53Speaker 3: her husband to change his work schedule if possible, and
- 46:56Speaker 3: more importantly, just open up with him and let him
- 46:58Speaker 3: know that she feels emotionally starved. For the time being,
- 47:01Speaker 3: I told her that we shouldn't do anything drastic in
- 47:04Speaker 3: either direction. We shouldn't start seeing each other after work
- 47:07Speaker 3: and build on this, nor should we immediately cut off
- 47:10Speaker 3: all contact and just forget about each other existing. I
- 47:13Speaker 3: think either move would be less than ideal. The former
- 47:16Speaker 3: choice would inevitably end in disaster. The latter would just
- 47:19Speaker 3: be needlessly depressing. I told her to have faith in
- 47:22Speaker 3: her own fidelity and her own integrity and realize that
- 47:26Speaker 3: this infatuation will pass over and to think of me
- 47:29Speaker 3: more as a friend and a brother than any sort
- 47:31Speaker 3: of romantic partner.
- 47:32Speaker 4: Damn.
- 47:33Speaker 3: OP is just, wow.
- 47:35Speaker 4: OP is like, consider me J with a G.
- 47:38Speaker 3: Consider me like I'm not even here. Consider me like
- 47:41Speaker 3: I'm a frog.
- 47:41Speaker 4: Yeah, Lucky Moose agree. He needs to take a break
- 47:44Speaker 4: from talking to her. She sounds exhausting. I agree.
- 47:47Speaker 3: I don't think you can get anywhere in this sort
- 47:49Speaker 3: of friendship if she's.
- 47:50Speaker 4: Like, I'm in love with you. Yeah. And are you
- 47:53Speaker 4: in love with me? And he's like, Robo Riley?
- 47:55Speaker 1: Consider me as if I have no reproductive organs.
- 48:01Speaker 3: Consider me as if I'm a eunuch. don't consider me
- 48:06Speaker 3: at all don't consider me at all stop considering if
- 48:10Speaker 3: she continues to pursue me romantically i am not against
- 48:13Speaker 3: completely cutting off contact and limiting time together just to
- 48:16Speaker 3: nip it in the bud before it gets out of
- 48:19Speaker 3: control but only as a last resort however my hopes
- 48:22Speaker 3: are that eventually this crush will fizzle out and we'll
- 48:25Speaker 3: continue to be friends that are able to enjoy each
- 48:27Speaker 3: other's company without any hint of romance my question for
- 48:31Speaker 3: now however is if I'm doing the right thing or
- 48:34Speaker 3: making the right choice. Should I swallow my own feelings
- 48:37Speaker 3: of wanting to spend time with her as a friend
- 48:39Speaker 3: and force distance between us at the cost of not
- 48:42Speaker 3: being able to talk and relate with someone? Is my
- 48:45Speaker 3: thought that exposure over time will dissipate this crush actually correct? Basically,
- 48:50Speaker 3: what can I do to make sure this doesn't get
- 48:52Speaker 3: out of control? We have an update. I don't think
- 48:56Speaker 3: that seeing her more will help.
- 49:00Speaker 4: You're not her therapist. Seems like that's what she's... She's
- 49:03Speaker 4: kind of trying to, like, make you feel bad about
- 49:05Speaker 4: her situation.
- 49:06Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 49:07Speaker 4: Like, really confide in you. It's like, tell this to
- 49:09Speaker 4: your husband. He's there. He could do that.
- 49:11Speaker 3: He could do that for you. He could be your
- 49:12Speaker 3: emotional support.
- 49:13Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 49:14Speaker 3: I'm just kind of your coworker.
- 49:15Speaker 4: Yeah. And OP, I think, I think you're doing everything right.
- 49:19Speaker 4: I thank God, you know, you're putting this boundary down
- 49:22Speaker 4: and saying, no, no, no, I'm not getting involved with this.
- 49:25Speaker 3: No, no, no. It's going to be messy. Going to
- 49:27Speaker 3: take a step back.
- 49:28Speaker 4: Yeah. But I mean, I, if you eventually feel uncomfortable,
- 49:34Speaker 4: you could take this up with HR. Yeah. True, true, true, true.
- 49:38Speaker 4: You could bring it to someone else and be like,
- 49:40Speaker 4: I'm done with her, you know, if it gets too
- 49:41Speaker 4: out of hand. Other than that, I would try to
- 49:43Speaker 4: say keep the conversation short and sweet. Yeah. You know,
- 49:47Speaker 4: and just be like, oh, yeah, you're great. You know, oh,
- 49:49Speaker 4: that stinks.
- 49:50Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't have to go get lunch together anymore.
- 49:52Speaker 4: Yeah, just be like, hi. Oh, haven't seen you in
- 49:54Speaker 4: a while. How is everything? That'll probably be better. You know,
- 49:58Speaker 4: Robo Riley has something. Yes.
- 49:59Speaker 1: Now, I say look more and more like her husband
- 50:03Speaker 1: every day. Meet her kids. Lock in on his mannerisms
- 50:08Speaker 1: and slowly just infiltrate his life and be with her forever.
- 50:13Speaker 1: No one will notice because he is not around.
- 50:17Speaker 4: True. Or he can start acting like her husband, who
- 50:22Speaker 4: she doesn't want to be like. That's what you said. Oh, yeah.
- 50:26Speaker 4: But then you said to marry her at the end. Oh.
- 50:29Speaker 4: I'm saying act more like her husband so she stops
- 50:32Speaker 4: liking him. Yeah, because she obviously doesn't want to be
- 50:33Speaker 4: with her husband. So just act like him and then
- 50:35Speaker 4: she'll be like, Oh, one more response.
- 50:39Speaker 1: She is just lonely. That is the real reason.
- 50:43Speaker 3: And that's the truth. And that's the breaking truth.
- 50:46Speaker 4: Of course, Ronan Q. I mean, update.
- 50:49Speaker 3: I just got off the phone with her Sunday morning.
- 50:51Speaker 3: She called me to let me know how she's doing
- 50:53Speaker 3: and asked how I'm doing. And I cut the BS
- 50:56Speaker 3: right away and said that we need space apart from
- 51:00Speaker 3: each other and we can't keep seeing each other anymore.
- 51:03Speaker 4: She agreed. And that was that.
- 51:04Speaker 3: At least now I don't have to worry about what
- 51:06Speaker 3: she's thinking about anymore. And I'm glad she understands OP
- 51:09Speaker 3: is so practical. That's really, this is not what we
- 51:13Speaker 3: usually read.
- 51:13Speaker 4: No.
- 51:14Speaker 3: All I hope for now is that we all just
- 51:15Speaker 3: move on from this and this doesn't bite me in
- 51:17Speaker 3: the butt in the future. I also want to say
- 51:20Speaker 3: thank you to everyone who told me everything that needed
- 51:22Speaker 3: to be said. I had a really effing brutal time
- 51:25Speaker 3: last night just trying to process all of this and
- 51:27Speaker 3: I'm still pretty aching and sore this morning. But I
- 51:30Speaker 3: greatly appreciate everyone. Thank you, thank you, thank you. This
- 51:33Speaker 3: is way more helpful advice, way more honesty, and way
- 51:37Speaker 3: more tender wisdom than I could ever ask for. This
- 51:40Speaker 3: colossal tsunami of blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 51:43Speaker 4: Do, do, do, do, do.
- 51:45Speaker 3: OP continues. It touches me deeply.
- 51:47Speaker 4: Yada, yada, yada.
- 51:49Speaker 3: Earth helping another person in pain. Yada, yada, yada.
- 51:52Speaker 4: What is this poetry?
- 51:52Speaker 3: I can see now the ocean of love.
- 51:54Speaker 4: What? Yada, yada, yada.
- 51:56Speaker 3: I can't wait to find more people. He's a poet.
- 51:59Speaker 4: Thank you. That was crazy. He's like, and let me
- 52:04Speaker 4: say this really quick.
- 52:05Speaker 3: And just three more paragraphs about how much I love
- 52:08Speaker 3: you guys.
- 52:09Speaker 4: That was crazy.
- 52:11Speaker 3: And that's the end of the story.
- 52:12Speaker 4: Yeah. Good job, OP. You really handled that like a champ. Yeah.
- 52:17Speaker 4: I will say one thing that stood out to me
- 52:19Speaker 4: was I don't know why you would be aching sore
- 52:21Speaker 4: the next day. I thought he meant like emotionally.
- 52:24Speaker 3: Or maybe he played pickleball. I'm always aching and sore
- 52:27Speaker 3: after pickleball. Or maybe went rock climbing.
- 52:29Speaker 4: Could have done that. Could have done a lot of things.
- 52:31Speaker 3: I went rock climbing two days ago, and I was
- 52:34Speaker 3: trying to get this one climb, and I could not.
- 52:36Speaker 4: It was a red one on the slab wall. It's
- 52:39Speaker 4: a V4. I saw someone do it the other day.
- 52:41Speaker 4: I saw a bunch of people do it.
- 52:43Speaker 3: Couldn't do it.
- 52:43Speaker 4: Oh, V4? I'm going after it tonight.
- 52:45Speaker 3: It is so balancey.
- 52:46Speaker 4: Could not get it. Yeah, I mean, truthfully, OP. Glad
- 52:50Speaker 4: that happened.
- 52:51Speaker 3: Yeah, good job.
- 52:51Speaker 4: Really glad that you didn't do anything. Yeah. So pragmatic.
- 52:56Speaker 4: And I loved the poetry at the end. Thank you. Yeah.
- 52:59Speaker 4: For that.
- 53:00Speaker 3: He was so like analytical throughout the whole story.
- 53:01Speaker 4: And then at the end, he was like, I have
- 53:03Speaker 4: to give them some poetry to know. I still feel
- 53:05Speaker 4: things deeply. No, I still feel things very deeply. So,
- 53:09Speaker 4: so deeply. I wanted my fiance to take my last name,
- 53:13Speaker 4: but she wanted me to do the same. Compromise. Smush
- 53:17Speaker 4: them together. I, 27 male, have been with my fiancee.
- 53:21Speaker 4: 24 female for three and a half years we are
- 53:25Speaker 4: very happy together and i can't imagine my life without
- 53:28Speaker 4: her but we have had a hard time reconciling this
- 53:32Speaker 4: disagreement so i posted here at her suggestion we have
- 53:35Speaker 4: been talking more and more about marriage recently and what
- 53:38Speaker 4: it would look like for me part of the significance
- 53:41Speaker 4: of marriage is becoming family with each other and that
- 53:44Speaker 4: includes sharing our last name when i think of being
- 53:47Speaker 4: bonded with her in that way i get really happy
- 53:50Speaker 4: and excited like We are a true pair and the
- 53:54Speaker 4: whole world could recognize it. However, she wants to keep
- 53:57Speaker 4: her last name as she says it is a hassle
- 54:00Speaker 4: to have to change it. It is.
- 54:01Speaker 3: It is. It's a huge hassle.
- 54:03Speaker 4: You have to change all your credit cards. You have
- 54:04Speaker 4: to change your license. You got to change literally everything.
- 54:07Speaker 3: And then it's also, it's tricky because especially now there's,
- 54:10Speaker 3: you know, with birth certificate stuff, it makes it harder
- 54:14Speaker 3: if your name does not match your birth certificate.
- 54:17Speaker 4: Yes. My sister-in-law is going through that.
- 54:19Speaker 3: Especially with like voting laws.
- 54:21Speaker 4: Yes. Yes. I think that's fine, but I'm the only
- 54:24Speaker 4: guy on my side of the family who could carry
- 54:26Speaker 4: my family name. I have two sisters who are married already,
- 54:29Speaker 4: so it's literally just me left. It's a pretty unique name.
- 54:33Speaker 4: Not one like Johnson or Smith. So my family name
- 54:39Speaker 4: would be gone if I don't carry it and pass
- 54:43Speaker 4: it on to our kids.
- 54:44Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you be passing it on to your kids?
- 54:46Speaker 3: Because she wants to keep her last name. But, like,
- 54:48Speaker 3: why can't they just both keep their last names and
- 54:50Speaker 3: then their kids get hyphenated?
- 54:52Speaker 4: Could be. That's a possibility. And it's solved.
- 54:56Speaker 3: It's solved. I feel like I just solved it for you.
- 54:58Speaker 4: We did it. By the way, this comes from Nameless Future.
- 55:01Speaker 4: And if you want to submit your own stories, go
- 55:02Speaker 4: to the r slash okay story time subreddit. I'm Savannah.
- 55:05Speaker 4: I'm Sophia.
- 55:06Speaker 1: I am Riley.
- 55:08Speaker 4: And we are here. to give some good advice goofily,
- 55:11Speaker 4: but we don't have all your answers. We're just going
- 55:13Speaker 4: to tell you what we would do, but you should
- 55:14Speaker 4: let us know what you would do down in the comments.
- 55:17Speaker 4: As Opie says, Beyonce doesn't really care about matching our
- 55:21Speaker 4: names and suggested I could change my name to hers
- 55:24Speaker 4: so we match or otherwise just keep both of our
- 55:28Speaker 4: own last names after we marry.
- 55:29Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't understand why we can't do that. Because
- 55:32Speaker 3: Opie said, well, I don't want to give up my name. Well, don't. Yeah.
- 55:35Speaker 3: And she doesn't want to give up her name.
- 55:37Speaker 4: So don't.
- 55:38Speaker 3: I'm not giving up my name.
- 55:39Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if I want to.
- 55:41Speaker 3: My name is mine.
- 55:43Speaker 4: Mine, mine. She has a brother, so her family name
- 55:46Speaker 4: would be carried on either way. I feel like it's
- 55:49Speaker 4: different for that reason, and she should compromise with me
- 55:52Speaker 4: and change her name.
- 55:53Speaker 3: That's not a compromise.
- 55:54Speaker 4: Yeah, what?
- 55:55Speaker 3: She should compromise with me and do what I want.
- 55:58Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 55:59Speaker 3: And Snickersnack says what I said, hyphenate the kids' names.
- 56:02Speaker 4: Am I the a-hole for not wanting to change my
- 56:04Speaker 4: family name and asking her to change hers instead?
- 56:07Speaker 3: You were the a-hole for the last part, yes.
- 56:09Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 56:09Speaker 3: First part.
- 56:10Speaker 4: No.
- 56:10Speaker 3: Last part. Yes.
- 56:11Speaker 4: I never found like an issue with that. I know
- 56:15Speaker 4: my friend went through this. She didn't want to change
- 56:17Speaker 4: her last name, which I don't think she did. She
- 56:19Speaker 4: wanted to have it like hyphenated. But I don't I
- 56:22Speaker 4: don't know what ended up happening. She still has the
- 56:23Speaker 4: same name on Instagram. So I wonder I should ask
- 56:27Speaker 4: her that. Like if she ever did it, because I
- 56:29Speaker 4: know it was a big, it wasn't a big deal
- 56:30Speaker 4: for her family, but it was for the, her partner's family,
- 56:33Speaker 4: which is.
- 56:34Speaker 3: Often how it goes. I feel like with like, it
- 56:37Speaker 3: usually is more important for the male. They're also super religious.
- 56:41Speaker 4: So I don't know if that has anything to do
- 56:42Speaker 4: with it either of being like, you should take the
- 56:45Speaker 4: men's name or something like that. But yeah, I don't,
- 56:50Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, I don't really think it matters. Like, yeah.
- 56:53Speaker 3: And I, The thing is that I don't think it
- 56:56Speaker 3: matters to take the name, but I think a name
- 56:59Speaker 3: is very important to people.
- 57:02Speaker 4: That is her own name.
- 57:04Speaker 3: And to give up one's name is a big thing
- 57:08Speaker 3: that I think a lot of women make that sacrifice.
- 57:11Speaker 3: And some don't care, but some do care, and they
- 57:13Speaker 3: make that sacrifice. We just kind of gloss over it.
- 57:17Speaker 3: It's just like you're supposed.
- 57:18Speaker 4: To do it. There is an edit to add, getting
- 57:20Speaker 4: some questions about hyphenating her names. I am willing to
- 57:23Speaker 4: do this, but she is not. She does not want
- 57:25Speaker 4: to change her last name at all due to the
- 57:27Speaker 4: hassle of it. So basically, she says I can take
- 57:30Speaker 4: her name or just accept us having different last names. Also,
- 57:33Speaker 4: some comments are mentioning this is my hill to pass
- 57:38Speaker 4: away on. It's really not, or I wouldn't be posting here.
- 57:42Speaker 4: It's just something my fiance and I are having trouble sorting,
- 57:45Speaker 4: and we wanted to get some others to weigh in.
- 57:48Speaker 4: I obviously won't or can't force her to do anything.
- 57:51Speaker 4: There's a second edit to add. It's hard to keep
- 57:53Speaker 4: up with the comments, but I am reading them all,
- 57:56Speaker 4: and so is my fiance. She is getting a real
- 58:00Speaker 4: laugh out of it, which makes me glad, I suppose.
- 58:03Speaker 4: But to address a couple more questions that are popping up,
- 58:07Speaker 4: We talked and are both okay with the kids taking
- 58:09Speaker 4: my last name.
- 58:10Speaker 3: Okay, then like actually what's the issue here?
- 58:12Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 58:13Speaker 3: There actually is zero issue here.
- 58:15Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it really does not matter.
- 58:17Speaker 3: That's actually crazy. Because I thought the issue was going
- 58:19Speaker 3: to be like, oh, well, she says hyphenate or... Take
- 58:24Speaker 3: my last name for the kids. But if she says, no,
- 58:26Speaker 3: I just want to keep my name and we can
- 58:27Speaker 3: name the kids your last name. Yeah. Then what's the issue?
- 58:31Speaker 3: You said your whole thing was, well, I have to
- 58:34Speaker 3: pass on the name.
- 58:35Speaker 4: You are. Yeah.
- 58:37Speaker 3: There is no issue. My mom didn't take my dad's
- 58:39Speaker 3: last name. There was no issue. There's no issue. I
- 58:42Speaker 3: have my dad's last name.
- 58:44Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 58:44Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 58:45Speaker 4: Literally. That's crazy. We talked and are both okay with
- 58:49Speaker 4: the kids taking my last name. Perfect. She is thinking
- 58:51Speaker 4: about this still, but might use my last name socially
- 58:54Speaker 4: and keep her name legally. So she doesn't have to
- 58:56Speaker 4: deal with the hassle, but we still get a shared name.
- 58:59Speaker 4: And there's an update.
- 59:00Speaker 3: Perfect.
- 59:01Speaker 4: Yeah. Okay. So what's happening? Wait, wait, wait. What's the issue?
- 59:05Speaker 4: So that's it. um so problem solved end of story
- 59:09Speaker 4: right christian the greek i don't think we unless you're
- 59:12Speaker 4: talking about a story i we read when i wasn't
- 59:13Speaker 4: here but i don't think we i do not recall
- 59:16Speaker 4: reading this story but we have read similar stories there's
- 59:18Speaker 4: an update here oh hold on uh robo riley.
- 59:22Speaker 3: Has something really quick yeah hannah says i'm confused.
- 59:25Speaker 1: Hot take if it is just a hassle of getting
- 59:28Speaker 1: it changed Can you just have someone change it for you?
- 59:31Speaker 3: It costs money, though. But the thing is, you would
- 59:36Speaker 3: have to pay someone to change everything. There are so
- 59:40Speaker 3: many things, and it's not just about changing it. It's
- 59:43Speaker 3: like you change it, and again, it goes into the
- 59:45Speaker 3: voting stuff. There are a lot of different things that
- 59:49Speaker 3: are affected by this. And also, sometimes people just like
- 59:52Speaker 3: their last name.
- 59:54Speaker 4: Hannah's saying, what's the update to this non-issue?
- 59:56Speaker 3: It's really a non-issue.
- 59:57Speaker 4: They solved it. All right, well, there is an update.
- 1:00:00Speaker 4: My wife and I read every comment together and discuss
- 1:00:03Speaker 4: things thoroughly. I had not considered the patriarchal slash historical
- 1:00:08Speaker 4: angle of asking a woman to take a man's name
- 1:00:10Speaker 4: and give up her own. It's just not something I'd
- 1:00:13Speaker 4: been exposed to much. It turns out this was there
- 1:00:16Speaker 4: in the background for my wife and was bothering her,
- 1:00:19Speaker 4: but she wasn't fully aware of it, much less how
- 1:00:22Speaker 4: to explain it to me. So it wasn't just about
- 1:00:25Speaker 4: the paperwork or hassle of changing her name. She was
- 1:00:27Speaker 4: also resisting because she felt weird about giving up her name. Yeah.
- 1:00:31Speaker 4: I had no idea that she felt that way and
- 1:00:34Speaker 4: was glad some commenters gave her the language to actually
- 1:00:38Speaker 4: talk about it with me. Part of our process in
- 1:00:40Speaker 4: resolving this difference was to do 23andMe tests and build
- 1:00:44Speaker 4: family trees. This ended up being really enjoyable and we
- 1:00:48Speaker 4: both found out some great family stories and tidbits from relatives.
- 1:00:51Speaker 4: I highly recommend for other couples to do this too.
- 1:00:55Speaker 4: We both feel much more connected to our personal histories
- 1:00:57Speaker 4: and therefore our last names now. And it was very
- 1:01:00Speaker 4: moving for me to link our trees together and gave
- 1:01:03Speaker 4: me that sense of romantic connectedness I was seeking through
- 1:01:06Speaker 4: the names. The end result? We got married two weeks
- 1:01:09Speaker 4: ago without a legal name change.
- 1:01:11Speaker 3: Heck yeah.
- 1:01:12Speaker 4: That was so easy. In the future, we are thinking
- 1:01:15Speaker 4: of hyphenating our names.
- 1:01:16Speaker 3: Maybe.
- 1:01:17Speaker 4: Neither of us are pressed to do it immediately as
- 1:01:19Speaker 4: we are basking in the newness of our marriage. Our
- 1:01:21Speaker 4: kids will also have hyphenated names, too, if we are
- 1:01:24Speaker 4: blessed with some. Yeah, there's a little bit left, and
- 1:01:28Speaker 4: you did it. You did it. You solved it. You
- 1:01:30Speaker 4: solved it. This problem, not a problem.
- 1:01:34Speaker 3: Zero issues here, bud.
- 1:01:37Speaker 4: Cool. I don't have any thoughts because there's something in
- 1:01:40Speaker 4: my eye.
- 1:01:41Speaker 3: Okay, that's your thought? That's your final thought?
- 1:01:43Speaker 4: My final thought, there's something in my eye.
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: Ouch.
- 1:01:45Speaker 3: I mean, like, what else would there be to talk
- 1:01:47Speaker 3: about here other than your eye?
- 1:01:49Speaker 4: See this? This is a problem. That solved.
- 1:01:52Speaker 3: Not a problem.
- 1:01:53Speaker 4: I am thrilled to be married to the love of
- 1:01:55Speaker 4: my life, even if we are not a matching Mr.
- 1:01:58Speaker 4: and Mrs. for now. I would still like to be someday,
- 1:02:01Speaker 4: but if we do, then the hassle of changing our
- 1:02:04Speaker 4: names will be something we suffer through together instead of
- 1:02:07Speaker 4: an unequal burden. Most of all, this experience has massively
- 1:02:11Speaker 4: changed the way my wife and I approach our differences
- 1:02:14Speaker 4: or conflicts together. We work through things slowly, gently, and
- 1:02:18Speaker 4: without assumptions until we understand each other, and that has
- 1:02:21Speaker 4: been the best thing to come out of this experience. So,
- 1:02:24Speaker 4: although I didn't expect to say it, thank you to
- 1:02:26Speaker 4: everyone who called me an a-hole a few months ago.
- 1:02:29Speaker 4: My wife thanks you too. That's funny. Perfect. Great job.
- 1:02:33Speaker 4: That was pointless, but thanks for sharing.
- 1:02:36Speaker 3: We solved your, we solved it. We saved the day.
- 1:02:39Speaker 4: Once again, okay, story time saves the day. That's us.
- 1:02:43Speaker 3: But that's the end of that story. But we've got
- 1:02:47Speaker 3: comments from the video. My husband chose his niece over
- 1:02:50Speaker 3: our kid.
- 1:02:51Speaker 4: I want a divorce.
- 1:02:52Speaker 3: And this was posted August 13th, 2026. The TLDR comes
- 1:02:57Speaker 3: from story one. Opie thought her husband's niece, Kelly, was
- 1:03:00Speaker 3: only staying with them for three months. That was 14
- 1:03:03Speaker 3: months ago. What started as a temporary favor turned into
- 1:03:07Speaker 3: her husband treating Kelly like their own daughter, even threatening
- 1:03:10Speaker 3: divorce when Opie refused to adopt her. The problem, Kelly
- 1:03:13Speaker 3: targeted Opie's 18-year-old daughter, Sarah, relentlessly, breaking her things, calling
- 1:03:18Speaker 3: her names, and playing the innocent victim while Opie's husband
- 1:03:22Speaker 3: excused every single thing she did. Then one day, Kelly
- 1:03:26Speaker 3: exploded on Sarah over something tiny, screaming that she was
- 1:03:30Speaker 3: lazy trash who should be kicked out. Opie finally snapped,
- 1:03:34Speaker 3: and when her husband came home demanding a divorce to
- 1:03:37Speaker 3: protect Kelly, she gave him exactly what he asked for.
- 1:03:41Speaker 3: But the truth about who Kelly really is adds a
- 1:03:43Speaker 3: shocking layer to the whole mess. And if you're curious
- 1:03:46Speaker 3: to know how shocking it gets, go watch the full video.
- 1:03:50Speaker 3: But we've got.
- 1:03:50Speaker 4: Comments I want to read. All right. Read them. Nah.
- 1:03:56Speaker 4: First story. It's good to be honest about this. Her
- 1:03:59Speaker 4: actions broke up a family. Their son has to split
- 1:04:03Speaker 4: his life between two households. She needed the truth, and
- 1:04:07Speaker 4: the husband is the biggest a-hole for refusing to listen
- 1:04:10Speaker 4: until his life was ruined. Sarah has an awesome mom.
- 1:04:15Speaker 4: I just hope their son will be okay. Jessica OG says,
- 1:04:18Speaker 4: First story, not the a-hole, and I'm glad she told
- 1:04:21Speaker 4: the niece that the divorce was her fault. She can't
- 1:04:23Speaker 4: take accountability for her actions if she's shielded from the
- 1:04:26Speaker 4: harm she caused. Glad OP stood her ground, protected her children,
- 1:04:30Speaker 4: and maintained her dignity. So true. Next comment's From Robin Hines, 7528,
- 1:04:39Speaker 4: and says, when my kids were D-bags, I told my
- 1:04:42Speaker 4: kids they were being D-bags.
- 1:04:46Speaker 3: Yep.
- 1:04:47Speaker 4: And that's sometimes how you gotta do it. And our
- 1:04:49Speaker 4: last comment, Tree something, said she's going to be branded
- 1:04:53Speaker 4: for life. Yes, that's how consequences work. That's how you
- 1:04:57Speaker 4: learn not to do something again. The things that keep
- 1:05:00Speaker 4: you up at night.
- 1:05:02Speaker 3: That's also true. You have to have consequences or you
- 1:05:06Speaker 3: just don't, you just keep behaving terribly.
- 1:05:09Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:05:10Speaker 3: But that's the end of those comments and the end
- 1:05:12Speaker 3: of the episode. So if you love us, make sure
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