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Did Greg Get the Cheese Touch? (It Follows 2014) · Scarier Things Club

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  There are rules to surviving a horror movie.
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  Don't split up, don't investigate the noise, and never say, "I'll be right
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  back." Here, three friends break down the scares, the kills, the monsters,
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  and the terrible decisions that got everyone there in the first place.
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  We rate the scares, we roast the victims, and we ask the important
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  question, would we survive?
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  So dim the lights, pour the drinks, and prepare for spoilers.
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  This is the Scarier Things Club
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  Hello.
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  Welcome back.
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  This is the Scarier Things Club.
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  We're so excited that you're here.
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  Today we are going to be talking about It Follows.
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  That's our movie of, uh, I don't know, circumstance?
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  I don't know.
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  This one was a- This one was a choice.
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  Um- Not our choice.
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  Not our choice.
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  It was randomly generated by the wheel.
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  Which we'll get into it in a little bit.
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  I just knocked over a water bottle.
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  This movie is, like, one of the top 200 scary movies.
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  Like, it was on a… It's on several list, and I just did not understand.
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  But- We like to get ahead of ourselves.
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  Before- … we get too much further so what I brought to the club today.
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  So this movie reminds me of those chain texts that we used to get,
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  like, when we were, like, in what?
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Middle school, junior high, where it would be like, "If you don't send this
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  to seven of your friends, then you're gonna get got by this," you know?
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  Yep.
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  Whatever, whatever creature.
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  And did you ever get those?
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  Oh, all the time.
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  First it was email, and then it would come through, like, Instant Messenger.
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  We got them there too.
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  You did IM?
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  Oh, girl, obsessively.
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  Did you really?
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  What was your… I di- I never did that.
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  Oh.
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  What was your username?
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  I was fully invested.
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  So, like, I had AOL Messenger, and I also, but w- most of the
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  time I spent was on MSN Messenger.
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  Okay.
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  And, um, my name on there, it was changing constantly because- Yeah … you would
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  change it based on, like, what lyric was, what emo lyric- Oh, yeah … was
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  hitting you really hard that week.
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  And then, like, all of the squiggles and stars and- that kind of stuff.
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  Yeah.
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  I wa- that was fully immersed in that culture.
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  Okay, perfect.
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  Yeah.
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  Okay.
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  So now I've, I'm following now.
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  So for me, it was email.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  The, that type of correspondence that would come and, you would get
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  in and say, "Oh, you need to do this or you're gonna be cursed-" Yes.
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  Yeah … kind of thing, if you don't forward it.
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  Right.
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  To however many people- Yeah, yeah … in an hour.
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  But yeah, Instant Messenger- Yeah … that was, oh, man.
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  Those were good times.
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  I rocked so hard- Yahoo Messenger … in Instant Messenger.
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  And ICQ, that's old school.
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  ICQ?
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  Oh, I don't know that one.
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  I know Yahoo.
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  I had AOL, Yahoo, and MSN.
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  But even, like, still get to enjoy it today if you had, you know, if your
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  work has instant messaging of some sort.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  They call it chat, excuse me.
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  Yeah.
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  I'm entering the chat.
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  I tear up Microsoft Teams.
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  I don't understand Microsoft Teams.
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  I hate it.
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  Oh, all day I'm on it.
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  All day?
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  Do you, but do you do, like, petty, do you send, like, petty messages through it too?
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  It depends because the… I, you have to be really careful- … where I
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  work because everyth- it's a state institution, so anything can be requested
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  by the Freedom of Information Act.
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  Oh.
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  So, and anything that's related to anybody's name- Yeah … they can pull it.
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  It doesn't matter.
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  It, like… And so the digital stuff is really easy to get ahold of.
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  And, um, but that's down to anything, like a note you write, like a
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  Post-It Note with somebody's name.
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  If you have that on hand, you're supposed to turn it over.
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  Really?
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  Like, even, like- Mm-hmm … a physical- So they're like- … little
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  Post-It Note … do not keep anything.
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  So what th- policy and risk management, their line is, "If you wouldn't
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  want it splashed across the front of the newspaper, don't say it."
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  Oh, man.
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  Which is really a good rule of thumb for life.
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  That is.
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  However- It's not as fun, though … I will send a, a message that's like,
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  it doesn't have somebody's name with it- Yeah … but I'll be like-
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  Did you see that in the other chat?
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  What the heck.
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  Or- Oh, yeah … did you see that person's profile picture?
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  Like, there was a person, her f- professional image- Yeah
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  for the college as for our intranet, was her in a costume, like Halloween costume.
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  Oh, nice.
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  And I was like… We were on video- … when I saw it pop up.
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  'Cause some people who are not on video, it just will show their picture.
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  Yeah.
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  I've gotten messages from a coworker that's like, "You're
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  on camera, don't forget."
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  Oh, no.
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  Like, they're like, "Fix your face, girl." Yeah.
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  She's like Beth." Cut it.
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  Cut it out.
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  And so I'll just like, boop, to come off of it 'cause I'm like, oh, my gosh.
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  But yeah, so I, I rock hard with the instant messenger.
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  It takes me back.
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  Yeah.
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  When I, like, was in middle school, junior high, the thing was Facebook.
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  That was like- Okay.
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  Yeah … I think, I think I secretly got a Facebook, which I think my dad, which
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  is, this is funny, because he- … bless him, is quite technologically challenged,
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  um, helped me make my Facebook.
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  But it was like the chat, but it wasn't like Messenger.
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  It was like whenever on the right-hand you could see who was on.
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  Oh, yes.
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  Yes.
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  And, like, they were green or whatever, and so then it would pop up.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And I remember, like, messaging my friend Liz.
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  And I was like, "No one's supposed to know.
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  Like, don't tell your mom.
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  Don't tell your mom." Because, like, her mom was my mom's best
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  friend, so I was like, "Please don't tell Miss Becky- Mm-hmm
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  that I'm doing this, because she's gonna tell my mom, and
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  then I'll get in trouble." Yeah.
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  But that's that was my… But also, I had, like, five friends,
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  so I feel like it's not as fun.
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  Yeah.
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  And that wasn't as bad, 'cause you usually actually knew those people on Facebook.
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  Where you could really get into some trouble was MySpace.
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  I don't know if you've ever had a MySpace.
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  I didn't.
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  'Cause you could find, somehow stumble upon people that you,
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  you had never seen in real life.
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  Yeah.
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  Like, this is probably some 45-year-old man in his mom's basement.
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  But- Right … it's your buddy Autumn now, and she's- … she's really cool.
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  She likes the same music you do.
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  Yeah.
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  But, um, yeah, you could chat through there, too, just direct
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  messaging or private messaging.
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  Man, all those old school-
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  social media platform.
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  I say old school, I mean Facebook's still going.
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  Yeah.
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  It's- That one has, like, lasted the longest … similar but different
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  than it w- I mean, 'cause I remember when the messaging was like that.
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  But now it feels like it's completely something else.
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  I guess because it's so, saturated with ads now- Oh, yeah … and content
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  that's for profit- Yeah … that it looks- So different … so different.
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  It's so, it's much more impersonal than it used- 'cause it used to be
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  just the people that you were friends with, and that was like- Right.
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  And now it- And it used to, you remember everybody used to be like like, "What
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  are you doing?" And you'd be like, "Beth is da, da, da, da, da." Yes.
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  Yes.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, I think a big, a big thing for me when I'm using Facebook
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  is that my algorithm definitely knows that I like funny videos.
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  Yeah.
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  And so when I'm scrolling, y- um, that's what I'm looking for, you know?
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  Yeah.
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  I get on my phone and I'm like, "You know, I wanna be entertained. Show me
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  something funny." And it's unfortunate because a lot of times that's what
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  I wanna do, and if I come across someone's post that I know, because
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  most of the time it's like video, video, video, and then someone I know posted
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  something like a birthday or whatever.
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  I'm like, "Nah, keep scrolling. I'm, I'm looking for videos," you know?
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  And so.
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  I haven't told somebody happy birthday in hot minute on there.
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  Well, I still tell people happy birthday on there.
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  I don't, 'cause they kinda hid the birthday notifications now.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  It's like in your Messenger, and I'm not gonna go look at that.
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  No.
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  I'm simply too busy.
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  Unless- Mine are still in the main part.
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  Oh.
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  Okay.
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  That's weird.
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  It is.
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  That is weird.
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  Have you seen though, like, do you still, like, actually type
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  out your happy birthday message?
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  Hmm.
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  Yeah.
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  You do?
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  Well, because- Yeah, I do … there's, like, options now where you can just,
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  like, it's got, like, 10 different- Mm-hmm
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  happy birthday messages- Oh, yeah, yeah … you can click on.
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  Yeah, so I don't, I don't do that because I feel, I feel like me just saying happy
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  birthday with one exclamation point is more personal than just clicking
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  one of those automated- Yeah … ones.
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  'Cause those other ones are not you.
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  Right, right.
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  And you can tell.
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  And that's the thing, like, when people send me those and I know for sure it's
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  one of those templates that they just boop, boop, boop, I'm like, "I kinda
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  would've rather you just not." Yeah.
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  You just clicked it and then you're done.
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  Mark, I'm about to call you out right now.
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  Okay.
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  Go ahead.
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  You, you be on Facebook, right?
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  This is what you said.
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  Yeah.
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  You be on Facebook?
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  I scroll.
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  I ain't never seen you share one of our reels.
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  Oh, I don't post.
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  Why?
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  He doesn't.
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  Like, uh, like- Alek doesn't either- If, if you go look- … so I feel even better
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  about it … if you look on my Facebook page, you'll see that I've never posted.
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  Well, if you scroll back far enough, you'll see that I post- Posted
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  that I made a post one time about I ordered a burger at Sonic.
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  And I said, I think I said in the caption, "I guess I should have
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  specified that I wanted the burger, or I wanted my bacon in the burger, not
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  on the burger." And I had a picture.
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  Because I opened the burger up and there was bacon literally on top of the bun.
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  No way.
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  Yeah.
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  I remember that.
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  I need to see that.
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  Sonic, was that, you said that was Sonic?
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  That was Sonic.
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  They really… Was that Malvern Sonic?
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  Malvern Sonic, yeah.
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  Oh.
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  They really have gotten us both because one time, This is completely unrelated.
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  But I ordered, you know, they, I think they still have 'em, or they're
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  back, the chili cheese Frito wraps.
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  Oh, that sounds- You ever have one of those?
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  No.
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  I- Girl, it's a slice of heaven.
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  Fast food chili freaks me out.
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  I don't know if it's gonna have the beans- Oh … in it or not.
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  If you need to get some stuff moving- I do, actually Sonic chili, okay?
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  Or Taco Bell.
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  I- Ooh … I've not really had that experience with Taco Bell, but
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  there are two places that I can go that it's, like, guaranteed- Good
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  that, and then, like, back home, Andy's.
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  Not the s- the, Not the Custard?
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  Not the Custard, but there's a burger place called Andy's back home.
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  Oh, okay.
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  Every time.
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  Um- It's worth it.
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  It's so worth it.
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  It is worth it.
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  It's a delicious burger.
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  But- Highly recommend … I ordered that burrito, and when
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  you get a burrito at Sonic, you know, it's wrapped in their foil.
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  Yeah.
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  I opened up the foil, and it was straight up, like, a scoop of the
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  chili- … wrapped up in the foil.
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  There was no wrap to it.
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  Like, there was no tortilla.
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  They just forgot the tortilla?
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  I guess.
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  That's number one in- literally number one ingredient.
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  That's like the whole… Like, you- when you get a burrito blanket, it's- Yeah
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  the tortilla.
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  And when you get a wrap of any kind- It's got- … it's gotta be wrapped in
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  something … it's wrapped in something.
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  Not the foil.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Or if it's not a wrap, it's just a pile.
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  Yeah.
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  You got a burrito pile.
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  And so I was like, I mean, it was the spoon today.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  They- Did you eat it?
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  Well, heck yeah, girl.
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  T- the ins- the insides are delicious.
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  This… I mean, same, same Sonic.
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  I mean, they, they left… This is pre-Facebook, otherwise
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  I would've posted about it.
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  Um, they left the burger off of my hamburger one time.
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  No way.
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  Oh my gosh.
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  Who's- Got home … who's back there- Got home … is like- Hang in … probably
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  knew who was working at the Sonic.
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  It's the children.
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  And- The childrens.
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  It's the children.
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  Makes sense.
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  Pulled the burger out of the foil wrap, and there was no meat on it.
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  What did you do?
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  Did you eat the bur- the bread?
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  My mom graciously shared half of her burger with me.
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  Aw, so sweet.
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  This was a long time ago.
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  A long time ago.
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  All right.
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  Can I make a confession?
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  Yeah.
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  Okay.
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  So whenever I was in college, I worked at Jimmy John's, and I was a delivery driver,
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  and I just think that, like, when you get to know me really well, that is funny
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  because I am so directionally challenged, and that's, like, what you have to do
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  when you delivery, make deliveries.
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  And so, but also when you work at Jimmy John's, you have to work you
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  can, you have to do drive-through or, like, make the sandwiches.
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  And so to do that, you have to pass a test.
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  So they make you, they give you, like, three weeks that you have to study
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  the menu and learn each sandwich.
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  And I was really nervous about it, and I took the test and
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  passed it, so that's great.
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  So then when I passed it- It's gone.
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  Bing, it's gone … because I hardly ever had to do that.
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  And so one day I had to get on the line, and I was, like, the last person, I
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  think, to, like, put meats and there is a sandwich where it is just bread and
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  cheese, and I think it's on the kids menu.
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  But anyway and so I made the sandwich and then took it to its delivery,
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  and it was, like, some dude, and, um, I get back to the store, and by the
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  time I'm getting back, he's on the phone- … with the store because he's
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  like, "There was no meat on my sandwich."
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  And I was like- I don't think I put meat on that sandwich.
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  But when they asked me, "Shannon, did you put meat on that sandwich?" I was
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  like - Of course … "Yeah, why would I not do that?" And so then they were
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  like- They made me drive back to this man to get the sandwich to bring it back
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  to the store so they could remake it.
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  What?
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  And by- Why didn't they just send you with- Yeah, send another
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  one … a newly made sandwich?
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  You can't take the old one back anyway.
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  So when I got there, the guy was like, "Well, I ate it."
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  So it may have had the meat on it.
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  You never know.
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  I think they got bamboozled.
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  I- He, it may have had the meat on there and he was just
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  trying to get a free sandwich.
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  Yeah.
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  No.
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  I, I genuinely think that I screwed the pooch on that one.
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  Yeah.
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  But then I got away with it.
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  But they got a new sandwich out of it.
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  No, he didn't get a new sandwich.
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  Because he didn't return the old sandwich?
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  Yes.
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  That is insane.
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  Isn't that?
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  'Cause any food place, like if they give you somebody else's order, they'll be
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  like, "Oh, I can't take it back anyway.
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  Just keep it." No.
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  I, and I don't know what they were going to do with the sandwich.
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  I don't know if they were gonna inspect it.
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  Thank God, because- But who's to say he didn't just take the
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  meat off, throw it in the trash?
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  Who's to say?
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  Or eat the meat.
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  You're right.
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  It's like a charcuterie board.
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  Yes.
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  So that's my…
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  I have another Jimmy John's story, but I c- I'll save that for another day.
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  Okay.
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  Unless you're interested.
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  I mean, I am intrigued.
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  Okay.
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  So, - I, again, I had a delivery, and it was for like a sweet tea and a chocolate
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  chip cookie, okay, which is really weird.
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  Jimmy John's is also really expensive- It is expensive
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  and you're paying a delivery fee and a tip.
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  So it was like at the Aloft Hotel in Rogers, and I couldn't find it.
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  Like, I could not, I was- … it's, it's right there on the interstate-
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  Uh-huh … and I couldn't find it, so that tells you a lot.
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  And, um, so I, um, I pulled over.
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  I b- and they time you.
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  Like, when you do deliveries, like they time you to see how long you're gone.
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  Yeah.
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  And so I was like, "Oh my gosh, I've been gone for so long. Like, I'm gonna
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  get in trouble. I've gotta figure this out." So I was pulled over trying to find
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  this place, and when I finally realized like where I was needing to go, I had
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  put the drink… I didn't, my car at the time did not have a cup holder up front.
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  It was like just this shallow little compartment.
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  Yeah.
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  And so I set the drink down, realized where I was going, sped
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  off, and the drink topples over into my passenger seat floorboard.
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  And I was like, "Oh my God. Like, what am I gonna do?" 'Cause I couldn't
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  go back to the store- No, you just- … because I'd been gone for so long.
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  So then I remembered, I remembered I have bottles of water in
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  the back of my car, okay?
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  So what I did was I scooped the ice back into the cup - No … got a water
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  bottle, and poured it in the cup.
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  And I was gonna give this to that person, okay?
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  But they got a tea.
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  You're right.
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  They, yep, they sure did.
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  Right.
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  So they ordered a tea, they didn't get a tea.
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  So I- … I get to the hotel and I'm, like, sweating bullets, and I'm like,
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  "As soon as I give this man that drink, I have got to haul booty to get out of
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  there." Before he says, "This isn't tea"?
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  Correct.
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  Yeah.
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  And so I go up there and I knock, knock on this hotel door.
• 15:35
  Knock, knock, knock, no one shows up.
• 15:37
  Knock knock, no one's answering.
• 15:38
  I try to call, no answer.
• 15:40
  So I went down to the front desk and I was like, "Hey, I've got this delivery.
• 15:44
  He's not answering. Like, I don't know, can you call up there?" So the guy at
• 15:47
  the front calls, and he never answered.
• 15:50
  And so he said, "I mean, it's already paid for." And I was like, "Yeah."
• 15:54
  And he goes, "Okay, well, I mean, I'll take it." And I said, "All right, cool.
• 15:59
  Do not drink that tea."
• 16:02
  Did it even look like tea at that point?
• 16:04
  No.
• 16:05
  But also, I mean, it was, it had, like, fuzz and, like, dirt and stuff all in it.
• 16:09
  'Cause it was in my floorboard.
• 16:11
  You didn't… Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.
• 16:14
  Wait, wait.
• 16:16
  Wait.
• 16:17
  You- So what were you gonna…
• 16:18
  Were you just gonna, were you gonna, were you, were you gonna give it to him?
• 16:21
  I was gonna give- Did you not have, you had more wa- how many
• 16:23
  water bottles did you have?
• 16:25
  I mean, like, a couple.
• 16:26
  So you could've rinsed off the ice.
• 16:27
  You could've at least gotten the debris out of there.
• 16:32
  You're right, I could have.
• 16:34
  I could have but I didn't.
• 16:35
  Too bad.
• 16:35
  You're not made for a life of crime.
• 16:37
  I would, I mean, I would've, I would've, like, stopped at, I don't know, was
• 16:41
  there, like, a McDonald's close by?
• 16:42
  Yeah.
• 16:42
  I'd order, order a- no, not even there … order that un- or a sweet tea from there
• 16:46
  and just dumped it in the, the cup.
• 16:48
  No, listen.
• 16:49
  Okay, first of all, I was proud of myself for thinking so quickly on my feet.
• 16:53
  It wasn't a good plan, but it was a plan.
• 16:57
  Okay?
• 16:58
  I mean, but I mean, it was, was, you ordered a tea- I mean, you
• 17:01
  delivered- … and it was water with- Oh, gee … water with fuzz.
• 17:06
  That's the, that's the, that's the title of this episode-
• 17:08
  Yes … A Water with Fuzz.
• 17:09
  Water with Fuzz.
• 17:11
  Well, okay, but it ended up working out because- It did
• 17:14
  no one got it.
• 17:15
  Okay.
• 17:15
  No one drank it.
• 17:16
  So when you got back to the store- Yeah … and they were like, "Shannon,
• 17:20
  it's been three hours," what then?
• 17:24
  Um, well, they, they asked me, 'cause I had called them and I
• 17:27
  said, "Hey, this is the problem. Like, what should I do?" Because
• 17:30
  again, I mean, I was young and dumb.
• 17:32
  Yeah.
• 17:33
  And obvi- and, you know, not making the best decisions anyway, and they were like,
• 17:36
  "Just bring it back and throw it away."
• 17:38
  So I didn't have to tell anybody.
• 17:39
  Okay.
• 17:40
  How, I just am curious, how did you exit that job?
• 17:44
  Was it by choice?
• 17:46
  N- uh, okay.
• 17:46
  So the first time I left is because I had to go to school.
• 17:50
  Okay.
• 17:50
  And so that worked out.
• 17:52
  Okay.
• 17:52
  But then I did, I worked there over Christmas break, and I also popped
• 17:58
  a car ti- like, a tire one day making deliveries for Jimmy John's.
• 18:02
  And then I was making another delivery when I was back for Christmas break
• 18:07
  and my car overheated, so then I was like, "I don't have a car." Okay.
• 18:11
  "I can't come into work." I didn't get fired.
• 18:13
  I've never been fired from a job.
• 18:14
  That's great.
• 18:15
  I don't know if that's what you thought was gonna happen.
• 18:17
  That's what I was wondering.
• 18:18
  I'm not that lucky, can tell you that.
• 18:21
  The Lord has been kind to me.
• 18:23
  Yeah.
• 18:24
  I'll pay for it one day.
• 18:26
  Yeah, 'cause the, the FBI definitely heard about your
• 18:29
  embezzlement and they're coming.
• 18:31
  But we said it wasn't embezzlement, so it's- It was.
• 18:34
  What?
• 18:35
  No, no.
• 18:36
  Oh, my God.
• 18:37
  It's a stipend.
• 18:37
  It's been a stipend however you want.
• 18:40
  Did you g- You're good … Ed, did you ever go and ask people at work-
• 18:42
  She said, "What?" "Huh?" No, I just wanted to see what you would do.
• 18:46
  You gotta shut it down.
• 18:46
  The podcast is over.
• 18:47
  And this is gonna be the last episode of the podcast.
• 18:50
  Sorry, Aaron.
• 18:51
  Shannon is mysteriously gone the next time.
• 18:54
  Yeah, she was by the park.
• 18:56
  I know.
• 18:56
  You could have Luna sitting here.
• 18:58
  Baskin-Robbins always finds out.
• 19:00
  We would come… We could come visit you.
• 19:01
  We could do it at the visitation- I would have survived- … place
• 19:03
  through the glass … prison.
• 19:05
  They would take one look at me- Well, same … and be like, "She's
• 19:07
  just a girl." She- I'm just a girl.
• 19:09
  Okay.
• 19:10
  Let's, uh- Where are we?
• 19:12
  What movie did we even watch?
• 19:13
  It Follows.
• 19:14
  Oh.
• 19:14
  I'm on our train of thought.
• 19:15
  Um- You're right.
• 19:17
  Okay.
• 19:17
  So really quick, this text string in, that's also what kind
• 19:20
  of started this conversation.
• 19:21
  Oh, yeah.
• 19:22
  This was… I wanted to go back in time and try to find, like, my most
• 19:26
  memorable ones that really freaked me out, and so I was able to find it.
• 19:30
  And this is a story about Carmen Winstead.
• 19:33
  Okay, so here we go.
• 19:35
  And this would've been a text that I w- some jerk would've
• 19:37
  sent me to try and kill me.
• 19:40
  About six years ago in Indiana, Carmen Winstead was pushed down a sewer
• 19:44
  opening by five girls at her school.
• 19:46
  They were trying to embarrass her in front of the school during a fire drill.
• 19:50
  When Carmen didn't come back up, the police were called.
• 19:53
  They went down into the sewer and brought up the body of
• 19:56
  17-year-old Carmen Winstead.
• 19:58
  Her neck had been broken after she hit a ladder and then
• 20:01
  the concrete at the bottom.
• 20:03
  The girls told everyone that Carmen had fallen.
• 20:06
  Everyone believed them.
• 20:07
  Two months later, a 16-year-old boy named David read this post but didn't repost it.
• 20:13
  When he went to take a shower, he heard laughter coming from a shower drain.
• 20:17
  He became frightened and ran to his computer to repost this message.
• 20:21
  He said goodnight to his mom and went to sleep.
• 20:24
  Five hours later, his mom woke up in the middle of the night
• 20:26
  because she heard a noise.
• 20:28
  David was gone.
• 20:29
  A few hours later, police found him in a sewer.
• 20:32
  His neck was broken and the skin on his face had been peeled off.
• 20:36
  If you don't repost this saying, "She was pushed," or, "They pushed her
• 20:39
  down a sewer," Carmen will get you.
• 20:42
  She will come from a sewer, the toilet, or the shower.
• 20:46
  Or when you go to sleep, you'll wake up in the sewer in the dark,
• 20:49
  then Carmen will come and kill you.
• 20:53
  I never got that one but that is the- Terrifying … yeah.
• 20:58
  Ugh.
• 20:58
  Mm-hmm.
• 20:59
  And I'm like, "What butthole sent that to me?" Okay, fair point, and we
• 21:02
  can … This will come up later, but why are my friends sending me that?
• 21:06
  I had the same thought too.
• 21:07
  'Cause it's like- Like, are we really friends?
• 21:08
  … send this to 12 friends.
• 21:09
  I'm like, "Why do I wanna curse my friends?" Exactly, and I was
• 21:12
  like, "I'm cooked," because I had maybe, like- … three friends.
• 21:16
  I don't have 10 friends.
• 21:17
  And I can't send this to my sister.
• 21:19
  That's when you gotta start making some buddies on MySpace.
• 21:22
  You're right.
• 21:23
  So that one really freaked me out.
• 21:24
  And then I had gotten, like, a Slender Man one, and that really freaked me out too.
• 21:28
  Ooh, I saw him in real life.
• 21:30
  I can't.
• 21:31
  What do you mean?
• 21:32
  I did.
• 21:33
  I saw him when I was in college, and my friend Michale was with me.
• 21:37
  Did she see it too?
• 21:38
  Sure did.
• 21:38
  Get her on the phone.
• 21:40
  What do you mean you saw Slender Man?
• 21:41
  No.
• 21:41
  I saw him.
• 21:42
  Yes, I did.
• 21:43
  No.
• 21:43
  And I've shown you a photo.
• 21:44
  I took a picture of him.
• 21:44
  And, and I don't believe the photo.
• 21:45
  Let's see the picture.
• 21:46
  I don't have it.
• 21:47
  Like, it's deep somewhere.
• 21:48
  That's really convenient, isn't it, Mark?
• 21:49
  Like once a year- Well, but I've- No ma'am.
• 21:50
  No ma'am … I saw it, and I- I don't- … I'm not a believer … uh-uh.
• 21:52
  So I did see it.
• 21:53
  What I'm saying is- I can't confirm that.
• 21:54
  I do disagree.
• 21:55
  What I'm saying is I don't have it on hand.
• 21:57
  I can't just produce it.
• 21:58
  Once a year it comes up in my Facebook memories 'cause I've posted it before
• 22:03
  to be like, "See? We did see him." And so when I come across it, when
• 22:08
  it appears to me again- Mm … I'll save it in my important folder because
• 22:11
  this is twice in the last, like, week that nobody has believed me.
• 22:15
  Oh, but that he's come up?
• 22:17
  Yeah, because it- Oh, my God … okay, once you watch the videos … Did
• 22:20
  you ever watch the YouTube videos?
• 22:21
  No.
• 22:22
  Yes.
• 22:22
  Okay, the Marble Hornets YouTube series where the, where Slender Man shows up
• 22:27
  there They get, like, followed by him, and also they will start seeing the symbol.
• 22:34
  You know the symbol I'm talking about?
• 22:36
  It's like a- No, I don't wanna know.
• 22:36
  I don't wanna know.
• 22:37
  It's a circle.
• 22:38
  I don't wanna know.
• 22:38
  It's a c- I'ma tell you anyway.
• 22:40
  It's a circle with an X through it.
• 22:43
  Mm. And- That could be anything.
• 22:45
  Very creative.
• 22:45
  Isn't it, like, a railroad crossing or something?
• 22:48
  Yes.
• 22:48
  But let me tell you where I saw it.
• 22:50
  Okay.
• 22:50
  Okay.
• 22:51
  So I watched those in college, and then I saw it when I was at my job at the bank.
• 23:00
  I moved one day the this jar of paperclips, and it was
• 23:03
  underneath there drawn on… Why?
• 23:06
  Why on the desk at a bank- Maybe some- … was that drawn?
• 23:10
  Maybe someone was like, "We need to drill a hole here," and they marked it.
• 23:13
  I don't think so.
• 23:14
  And then the s- the second time that I saw it was when I went to do
• 23:19
  my teaching internship, and we…
• 23:22
  it was on one of the cafeteria tables.
• 23:26
  And- Hold on.
• 23:26
  Hold on.
• 23:26
  Hold on … why, why was that the one I happened to walk by?
• 23:29
  Yeah, 'cause, 'cause a student- Because he knows- A student
• 23:30
  absolutely- And then I saw it … would not do something like that.
• 23:33
  They wouldn't draw that on there.
• 23:33
  They're a student.
• 23:34
  Those kids didn't know.
• 23:35
  Those little podunk kids where I was at, no, they didn't know that.
• 23:39
  And, but, like, that was after I had seen him in the flesh.
• 23:44
  No, you didn't.
• 23:44
  Well, I guess you're still alive, so- … what's the secret?
• 23:46
  I mean, I guess now that we all know about it, how do we live?
• 23:49
  We don't be afraid of him?
• 23:50
  I mean, that's not the thing, like…
• 23:52
  I don't know.
• 23:53
  I'm just telling you I saw him.
• 23:54
  Where did you see him?
• 23:55
  We were eating, I hate this.
• 23:59
  We were eating- I'm so mad … ice cream at a Shake's in Jonesboro,
• 24:03
  'cause I went to Arkansas State.
• 24:05
  And so we were sitting there in the car just eating some custard or whatever,
• 24:10
  and we looked across the highway.
• 24:13
  At the other side, there was a hotel.
• 24:17
  And in, like, the one of the top floors, I said… I'm getting
• 24:22
  chills just thinking about it.
• 24:23
  I'm so- For real … mad at this.
• 24:25
  I was like, "Michale"- You should be … "Michale, look at that top window.
• 24:31
  It's Slenderman." And she was like, "Stop." And so we drove across to the
• 24:38
  thing and were able to take a pi- Dumb decision … I took a pic- Well, yeah.
• 24:40
  So we took a picture from across the way, which I think is where I saw.
• 24:43
  And so then I tried to, like, zoom in, and then we tried to
• 24:45
  go, like, investigate further.
• 24:48
  I would definitely die in a horror movie, because we went into the
• 24:50
  parking lot, tried to get closer.
• 24:52
  We're like, "Well, let's go look," 'cause if he's there- Was he
• 24:55
  standing there looking at you?
• 24:56
  He was looking out the window.
• 24:58
  I don't know if he was looking at me.
• 24:59
  Was it a hotel you said?
• 25:01
  Couldn't have been just somebody standing in a hotel room?
• 25:03
  It wasn't a person.
• 25:05
  It was, he was slender.
• 25:06
  Why?
• 25:06
  Because did he have many arms?
• 25:08
  Well, I don't know.
• 25:10
  I wish I could tell you.
• 25:12
  It was Slenderman.
• 25:15
  It looked like him.
• 25:16
  We're not listening- The look on her face says it all When the when
• 25:19
  the picture comes up- I'm gonna send it to you You better send it.
• 25:22
  We'll put it on socials and like- Okay.
• 25:24
  We'll let, yeah, so we'll let the pe- the people decide Okay.
• 25:26
  I'm less scared now.
• 25:27
  I'm less scared now.
• 25:29
  'Cause he really freaked me out because it's definitely like, you know, if
• 25:32
  you like give it power in your mind.
• 25:35
  And I was like I, again, I'm cooked because I'm afraid of him.
• 25:39
  Yeah.
• 25:41
  Anyway, it was real.
• 25:42
  But you're still alive, so- … that's good.
• 25:44
  Okay, so wow, what an intro.
• 25:48
  It- 30-minute intro … it follows.
• 25:50
  I hope, if you're still here, we'll see.
• 25:52
  Um, so It Follows.
• 25:55
  Have y'all ever… did you ever watch or like read The Diary of an Wimpy Kid?
• 25:59
  No.
• 26:00
  No.
• 26:00
  Okay, well, in that story there's this thing called the cheese touch,
• 26:03
  and that's what I have like called like this curse is the cheese touch.
• 26:08
  Okay.
• 26:09
  So there was like a smelly piece of like Swiss cheese that had like been melted on
• 26:14
  top, like on their playground in The Diary of a Wimpy Kid, and it like was smelly,
• 26:18
  and if you touched it you got the cheese touch, and then it's like a game of tag.
• 26:21
  So it's like, "I'm gonna tag you.
• 26:23
  Now you have the cheese touch." But it's not
• 26:26
  "Ew!" Yeah Like, "That has the cheese touch." And so in this movie you don't
• 26:30
  wanna get the cheese touch, and that comes from- … sleeping with somebody
• 26:35
  who's infected with- Yeah … this curse.
• 26:38
  And- With the cheese touch.
• 26:39
  With the cheese touch.
• 26:39
  Yeah.
• 26:40
  That- Let's not.
• 26:42
  You don't like that?
• 26:43
  I don't like- I say that multiple times in here.
• 26:46
  There's just… There's a, an uncomfortable imagery to me when
• 26:48
  we're talking about nighttime wrestling and equating it with like
• 26:53
  a cheese- Oh … moving around.
• 26:55
  Like, there's just a… I'm a little uncomfortable with this.
• 26:58
  Just something a little distasteful about it to me.
• 27:04
  I need to like do like the find to see how many times in here I wrote-
• 27:08
  Cheese touch … cheese touch.
• 27:09
  It's excessive.
• 27:10
  It's probably like 10 times.
• 27:12
  'Cause even when you just talk about it in the context of that book, the kids' book,
• 27:17
  it's like, "Oh, you got the cheese touch, the…" There's something a little- Okay
• 27:21
  like, my head's kinda just turned to the side a little bit.
• 27:24
  Yeah, okay.
• 27:25
  Well, I respect it.
• 27:25
  But I mean, no, I'm saying you can keep saying it.
• 27:28
  You can keep saying it.
• 27:29
  I just- It's doing something to you.
• 27:31
  It's not weird to anybody else?
• 27:33
  Mark?
• 27:33
  No, I think it's funny.
• 27:34
  Thank you.
• 27:34
  Okay, so it's the cheese touch.
• 27:38
  Did you expect that was gonna be a topic of tonight's discussion?
• 27:41
  No.
• 27:43
  Excellent.
• 27:43
  Never.
• 27:44
  Okay.
• 27:45
  So I wrote this little line in like the, the words of Kevin Malone when
• 27:51
  he's like, "Why say a lot where one fewer do, Trick?" Boy sleep with girl.
• 27:55
  Girl gets cursed.
• 27:56
  Girl has to sleep with someone else to pass on curse, and that's the movie.
• 28:01
  It is.
• 28:02
  In a nutshell.
• 28:04
  The- And I think I had high expectations for this, because I
• 28:08
  think it is like deemed as a good scary movie Like by who though?
• 28:15
  I do not know.
• 28:17
  So let's crack into it.
• 28:19
  All right.
• 28:20
  Um, I did like the, the vibes of the movie, like the muted-
• 28:26
  Mm-hmm … you know, what's it called?
• 28:29
  Cinematography.
• 28:30
  Yeah, sure.
• 28:31
  That.
• 28:31
  And the music was cool.
• 28:33
  Yeah.
• 28:34
  But the ac- like how the plot played out I just could not get on board
• 28:43
  with, like, any of these people Right.
• 28:45
  I did not like a single character And there was really no reason.
• 28:48
  I can't explain to you why I did not care even a little bit about the
• 28:52
  main girl, 'cause you're supposed to.
• 28:54
  She didn't really do anything.
• 28:56
  I mean, she was dumb.
• 28:57
  Exactly, yeah.
• 28:58
  But- She was dumb, and I think she just didn't do a good job acting.
• 29:01
  Maybe.
• 29:01
  I think she's a terrible actor Everything was just very dull.
• 29:05
  Like, she had no- Ex- yes … charisma.
• 29:07
  Right There was nothing that drew me to her.
• 29:11
  Yeah.
• 29:12
  Like, I didn't root for her at all.
• 29:13
  No.
• 29:14
  I was… I didn't have any attachment to her at all.
• 29:16
  Mm-mm.
• 29:17
  Yeah, and I think, just, just to piggyback off of what you
• 29:19
  said about the cinematography.
• 29:21
  For me, the way that they… and it's so unfortunate, because I do have problems
• 29:27
  with the movie, and just the way they filmed it, the… even down to the set
• 29:33
  pieces, the retro… You know, they had cars, houses, TVs, all that stuff, and
• 29:40
  then of course the '80s synth music.
• 29:42
  That just hit this nostalgic chord with me- Yeah
• 29:46
  that it was… it really felt like I was watching, you know, a horror
• 29:50
  movie from the '80s or whatever.
• 29:53
  And that, to me, was awesome.
• 29:56
  I loved the look and feel of it.
• 29:59
  But yeah, the, the actual vehicle upon which this thing gets passed
• 30:05
  was- Mm … unnecessary, I think.
• 30:08
  I mean, I, I personally, I do think… I liked the entity.
• 30:11
  I like, I like how… See, that reminds me of Michael Myers.
• 30:15
  Have you ever watched- Yeah … the Halloween 197- the 1978?
• 30:18
  It's been a while, but yeah.
• 30:19
  So, like, he never runs.
• 30:21
  He's always just walking.
• 30:23
  Yeah.
• 30:23
  And, but he's gonna… He is going to get you e- sooner or later, just from walking.
• 30:27
  He's that determined.
• 30:29
  He will get you.
• 30:30
  And so I think with this thing, it's really creepy that, all
• 30:34
  right, so you have this… it's just slowly walking towards you.
• 30:37
  You can see it.
• 30:38
  Yeah.
• 30:38
  And it's coming.
• 30:39
  But then, okay, well, I'm gonna get in my car.
• 30:42
  I'm gonna drive off and put some distance.
• 30:44
  Well, now it's even worse, 'cause you know it's still coming.
• 30:48
  Yeah.
• 30:48
  But now you don't know when.
• 30:50
  Is it gonna be- get there when you're asleep?
• 30:52
  And plus, you can't have anybody looking out for it, 'cause nobody
• 30:56
  else can see it if they haven't been infected with the cheese touch.
• 31:00
  Yeah.
• 31:01
  For me, that, that was great.
• 31:03
  Mm. Like, I love- Yeah … I love that aspect of it.
• 31:05
  I think the entity was great.
• 31:07
  But yeah, there w- there was just- I feel like there, there are some
• 31:11
  things that sometimes get added to these movies that don't really
• 31:16
  lend to the movie being more scary.
• 31:21
  Yeah.
• 31:21
  I agree with that.
• 31:22
  And so I think that's where it kinda falls off for me, is that you had something that
• 31:27
  was really good, you had something that was really creepy, but then there's these
• 31:30
  other components, and I don't know when we wanna bring up- Maybe a little later.
• 31:34
  A little later.
• 31:35
  I know what you're talking about.
• 31:35
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 31:35
  It, it just- You gotta build us to it … yeah.
• 31:37
  Uh, so yeah, that, that to me, sometimes shock val- value or shock
• 31:43
  factor is not really necessarily make it more horrific or more scary.
• 31:49
  Yeah.
• 31:49
  It just has… It just leaves me sitting back, "Why'd you do that?
• 31:51
  I didn't wanna see that." Right.
• 31:52
  Yeah.
• 31:52
  I think they had a concept- Yeah … and then it just didn't
• 31:58
  come to life in a rewarding way.
• 32:00
  But I mean, a lot of people, like you say, really like this movie, but
• 32:03
  I feel the same way about stuff like Hereditary and Midsommar that are,
• 32:07
  like, at the top of a lot of rated, like, horror movies, and I'm like, "No."
• 32:14
  Like, Midsommar, I called that one within, like- Mm … five to 10
• 32:16
  minutes of like, "Oh, well this is what's gonna happen"- Oh, yeah … and
• 32:19
  that's exactly what happened.
• 32:20
  And then, like, Hereditary was just kinda, like, weird for the
• 32:23
  sake of being weird, I felt like.
• 32:24
  Yeah.
• 32:25
  You know?
• 32:25
  I mean, I think sometimes the real super, like, artsy ones,
• 32:30
  people are like, "Oh, this was a thought-provoking film," or whatever.
• 32:33
  Yeah.
• 32:33
  And I c- and maybe because they're using this as a, you know- A
• 32:41
  comparison to, I don't know.
• 32:44
  Like, I mean, it is like an STD essentially.
• 32:47
  Like, you pass it on and, and like, a, as, as with a lot of them, you're
• 32:53
  never getting rid of it, like, I, I get the correlation- Yeah … but I
• 32:56
  don't think that it came to life and was fully, like, fleshed out in the way
• 33:03
  that was in a, like in a meaningful way.
• 33:06
  Yeah.
• 33:07
  Yeah.
• 33:07
  And I didn't, I didn't l- how it's, the entity itself is…
• 33:13
  Okay, so it, it's invisible.
• 33:15
  Yeah.
• 33:16
  So if you haven't been infected, you can't see it.
• 33:19
  But it apparently is still there.
• 33:21
  Like, it's an actual physical entity because, you know, he
• 33:24
  threw the blanket over it.
• 33:25
  They were able to shoot it with a gun.
• 33:27
  Yeah.
• 33:28
  And so, but you can't kill it.
• 33:31
  You know?
• 33:31
  It, it just, to me it would've been a lot scarier if it had been, like,
• 33:35
  maybe a demon, where it's truly like you, you know, you can't see it unless
• 33:38
  you're infected, but then also there is nothing you can do to it physically.
• 33:43
  Yeah.
• 33:43
  I think that would've been a lot worse or a lot scarier.
• 33:45
  Yeah.
• 33:46
  Yeah.
• 33:46
  But that's also the, kind of its weakness, I guess, right, is that
• 33:50
  it has to get that close to you.
• 33:52
  With, like, a demon, and it has all these powers, like a demon could
• 33:55
  be, like, in the room and manipulate objects and hurt you from afar.
• 34:01
  But with that one, like, when she was sitting in the, on the beach, and it got
• 34:06
  her and it, like, lifted up her hair, like- Yeah It had to get that close.
• 34:11
  You have at least that much- That's a good point … you can put some
• 34:15
  distance between it and you, and that's another thing of, like, it's not fast.
• 34:19
  So, like- … you could just keep driving, and that's kinda what the guy said.
• 34:24
  Like, that- Yeah … that dude set her up for success.
• 34:28
  Okay.
• 34:28
  Because he needed her to succeed- Right
• 34:30
  because he didn't want it to come after him, and then she just acted
• 34:35
  like nobody- A fool … gave her tips.
• 34:37
  Yeah, okay, I had issues with that whole thing.
• 34:40
  Okay.
• 34:41
  Obviously, you know, it's like, okay, well, okay, because they go to the movies,
• 34:46
  and then he sees his cheese touch, right?
• 34:49
  And so then- Uh-huh … they have to leave, but then it's like why
• 34:53
  did he feel like he had to drug her?
• 34:55
  She obvi- 'cause, like, they're making out in, all, like, out in the woods
• 34:59
  by the lake- Mm-hmm … and then they get in the car, and it's obvious that
• 35:02
  they've, like, already done the deed.
• 35:04
  For sure.
• 35:05
  So it's like, okay, and then he drugs her?
• 35:07
  So he could tie her up into a chair.
• 35:09
  To show her the entity?
• 35:11
  So, so I think- Yes
• 35:12
  to prove that it was real to her.
• 35:13
  Yeah.
• 35:13
  'Cause if he was like, "Oh, you got it now," and I think it was so he
• 35:18
  could show her, "This is what it is.
• 35:20
  This is what it looks like." And then he got her away from it.
• 35:23
  Yeah.
• 35:24
  Um, but all that was, I think, self-preservation.
• 35:27
  None of that had anything- Yeah, I think so … to do with her.
• 35:28
  Makes sense.
• 35:28
  Right, right, right.
• 35:29
  Yeah.
• 35:29
  Um, but then sh- honestly she wasted it.
• 35:34
  Yeah.
• 35:34
  Because she immediately just went and did, like, everything he told her not to do.
• 35:39
  Yeah.
• 35:42
  I really, like, watching this, I was like, first of all, what
• 35:45
  was the budget for this film?
• 35:47
  Because you could tell it was severely low.
• 35:50
  But I guess it actually did okay.
• 35:51
  The budget was, like, 1.3 million, and it grossed over 23 million.
• 35:55
  So I feel like… And this also came out in 2014.
• 35:57
  I don't know if you said that.
• 35:58
  So I think this was, like, 2014's version of Obsession.
• 36:03
  Where it was, like, an indie film that just blew up.
• 36:05
  But I just felt like just the directing was so poor.
• 36:10
  And also, I really just couldn't get over, so the friend that, like, so obviously
• 36:14
  was, like, in love with her- Yeah … I hate I thought he was the worst.
• 36:18
  But also, he is, like, the main character in, um, Atypical, which I think is…
• 36:23
  It's a show on Netflix where he has autism, and so the whole time, that's,
• 36:28
  like, all I could see was, like, the- Mm
• 36:30
  his autistic character playing this.
• 36:33
  But I just thought, like, man, you're, like, so, just,
• 36:36
  like, you're a sad puppy dog.
• 36:38
  Yeah.
• 36:38
  Like, you obviously like this girl.
• 36:39
  She's not into you.
• 36:40
  You're so pouty the whole time.
• 36:43
  Mm-hmm.
• 36:43
  I did not like him at all.
• 36:45
  He, he was kind of reminiscent of Bear from Obsession.
• 36:48
  He was.
• 36:49
  And- I said the same thing … what I don't understand, and this, I mean, it
• 36:53
  happened a little bit later in the movie, but happened twice in the movie, where
• 36:56
  guys are offering, "Give it to me." Yeah.
• 37:00
  What in the heck?
• 37:02
  I don't care how… For one, Greg didn't even know her that well.
• 37:06
  Yeah.
• 37:06
  But, like, and maybe you're b- you're desperate by that point
• 37:09
  to get it to somebody else.
• 37:12
  Yeah.
• 37:13
  But, like, you could give it to a random person.
• 37:16
  Well, she did do that.
• 37:16
  Sh- straight up murdered some guys on a, or at least a guy on a boat.
• 37:20
  We can infer that.
• 37:21
  Did she kill them?
• 37:21
  Well- I mean- It, you can, like okay- It's implied.
• 37:25
  She- She went to the beach, and then she started to swim out there, and
• 37:27
  then she's, like, driving home crying Well, she took her clothes off.
• 37:30
  Yeah.
• 37:30
  And then she- Oh … started going out towards that boat, and the
• 37:32
  next thing you see, yeah, it's her.
• 37:33
  And then the next morning it's back on her roof because- Oh, she
• 37:37
  didn't tell- She didn't tell him.
• 37:38
  Oh.
• 37:39
  It doesn't matter if you pass it on to somebody if you leave him in the cold.
• 37:42
  You're right.
• 37:43
  You're not helping yourself.
• 37:44
  You're right.
• 37:45
  But she had already had the blueprint, 'cause the what's-his-name did it for her.
• 37:48
  Yeah.
• 37:49
  I don't understand why she didn't just try and put as many people between
• 37:53
  her and the thing- And it, yeah … as possible, and then encourage that person
• 37:57
  to pass it on, encourage that person to pass it on, and then that person.
• 38:01
  Yeah.
• 38:01
  And then that way you got at least some time.
• 38:03
  A good buffer.
• 38:05
  Yeah.
• 38:05
  And then you can just always spend your life just, like-
• 38:08
  Yeah, 'cause you can always see it … you know, waiting to see.
• 38:10
  Yeah.
• 38:10
  You'll just know if it's coming for you or watching for somebody else.
• 38:12
  I wanna know how I guess because whenever they confront the guy
• 38:18
  that ga- what was his name?
• 38:19
  The guy that, like, gave it to her?
• 38:20
  Anyway.
• 38:20
  Oh yeah, at his house?
• 38:22
  Yeah, and then they're sitting outside.
• 38:23
  But- Oh … I was wondering how, 'cause like he said that some
• 38:26
  random girl gave it to him at a bar.
• 38:28
  So I wonder if, like, she had told him about it.
• 38:33
  I'm like, how did this guy figure it out?
• 38:34
  And I guess maybe- Maybe … maybe that girl told him.
• 38:38
  And I wonder if he knew, 'cause I wa- I was thinking- was maybe, 'cause he said
• 38:45
  he had given it to some- 'cause he knew obviously that if you give it to somebody
• 38:49
  and they die, then it comes back to you.
• 38:52
  So the girl at the very beginning, I think her name was, like, Annie.
• 38:55
  Yeah.
• 38:55
  So I wondered if that was his last person, and then it was back to
• 38:58
  him, and he had to give it to- Ooh, I don't know … this girl.
• 39:01
  Okay.
• 39:01
  I, 'cause I was like, whenever she, like, is running out of the house and,
• 39:05
  like, freaking out, and then it shows you, like, her legs on the beach- Ooh,
• 39:08
  yeah … I was like, dang, that's rough.
• 39:11
  Yeah, and so I was like, okay, this is set up for something creepy,
• 39:16
  and there were some creepy parts to it, but- Yeah, I think I … it
• 39:20
  didn't pay off like the beginning.
• 39:21
  Also, her dad was not concerned enough.
• 39:24
  No.
• 39:24
  No.
• 39:25
  At all.
• 39:26
  "Annie, what are you doing?" And then she runs in, she's
• 39:29
  running out on the lawn- Mm-hmm
• 39:31
  out into the street.
• 39:33
  She, for some reason, makes a big, huge circle, which I now know she's probably
• 39:37
  running, like, wide around the thing, but, like, runs back into her house,
• 39:42
  and then you can hear him be like, "What's going on?" Da, da, da, da.
• 39:46
  And then she runs back, gets in the car, drives off.
• 39:49
  They don't follow her.
• 39:49
  She's clearly in distress.
• 39:51
  Yeah, you're right.
• 39:52
  And then by the nighttime- I wonder if I had any … she's sitting on
• 39:56
  the beach, calling them, clearly, like- I- … last goodbyes.
• 40:00
  Yeah.
• 40:01
  And they don't say anything.
• 40:03
  Not like a, "Hey, you sound like you're about to do something really permanent,
• 40:07
  and I wish you wouldn't." Like- Yeah
• 40:10
  no response.
• 40:11
  Did, were they even looking, or what?
• 40:13
  Like, there's no urgency.
• 40:15
  This girl what was her name, Jamie?
• 40:17
  I think it's- Jay?
• 40:18
  I think it was Jay.
• 40:19
  Jay, yeah.
• 40:20
  She, um, her mom, we saw her one time sitting at the kitchen table talking
• 40:24
  to her friend, and then, um, obviously Greg's mom, that was a whole thing.
• 40:31
  But like but, like, the adults and the people at the school, when they
• 40:36
  went to the school and just let a bunch of random, like, college-age
• 40:41
  people walk into their s- high school hallways, and then, "Yeah, sure.
• 40:46
  I'll help you look through this yearbook to find this random
• 40:50
  person that you clearly don't know, and I'll give you their name.
• 40:52
  Hey, while we're at it, you want their home address?" Yeah.
• 40:56
  'Cause how did they find his house?
• 40:58
  And then it was, it's, like, all worn down.
• 41:01
  Yeah.
• 41:01
  There's like- Oh, that was the place he was staying- Yeah … by himself, yes.
• 41:07
  Oh, you're talking about, like, his actual house.
• 41:08
  When they went to f- and his mom was there.
• 41:10
  Mm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
• 41:10
  And they went to find, like, his home home 'cause I guess after he
• 41:13
  passed it off, maybe he went home.
• 41:14
  Yeah.
• 41:15
  But I'm like, the adults around here have questionable judgment.
• 41:20
  In any horror movie.
• 41:22
  Right, but at, like, at least in some, they act like they
• 41:26
  are invested- Yeah … at all.
• 41:28
  Yeah.
• 41:29
  Like, when your kid is like- deathly afraid, running from something, and
• 41:35
  you're not even asking q- good questions.
• 41:36
  You're not stopping her.
• 41:37
  I don't know.
• 41:38
  I just, I feel like there were some holes- Yes … that- Absolutely … we
• 41:43
  could'a, we could'a tied up a little bit.
• 41:45
  Yeah.
• 41:45
  Made this at least a little bit more- More pretty … engaging.
• 41:48
  Nobody cared enough about anything.
• 41:50
  She didn't care about those little boys creeping on her while she was in the pool.
• 41:53
  Right.
• 41:53
  I was like- I see you over there." Uh, yeah, I was like- "I'm in the pool" … I
• 41:57
  also was like, she's in the pool, but everybody else i- is out here in jackets.
• 42:00
  What are we doing?
• 42:01
  Yes.
• 42:01
  It was like, it was like- Le- leaves on the ground.
• 42:02
  Yes.
• 42:04
  Leaves on the ground.
• 42:05
  It was fall time.
• 42:06
  Girl, what are you doing?
• 42:07
  I have no clue.
• 42:08
  I was confused about what time of year this was.
• 42:10
  There was no direction.
• 42:11
  So there, there's a, a, an interesting point, and I wonder if
• 42:13
  it's kinda this, a similar thing.
• 42:16
  If you notice a lot of, a lot of the movie looks like it's maybe
• 42:20
  in the '80s- Yeah … or whatever.
• 42:22
  But then you have that girl that has, like, a touchscreen device.
• 42:25
  Looks like a little- Yeah, it looked like a little, uh, Little Mermaid toy, 'cause
• 42:28
  it was- Yeah, yeah … seashell shaped.
• 42:29
  And then it was- Oh, yeah … like, a Kindle or something with
• 42:32
  a screen in the middle.
• 42:33
  Oh, yes.
• 42:33
  So I- Yeah.
• 42:34
  So weird … so to me, I mean, I'm sitting here watching it.
• 42:36
  I hear the '80s synth music.
• 42:38
  I see the, the scenery.
• 42:39
  It looks straight-up '80s.
• 42:40
  And, and I, I'm like, "Okay, I'm gonna g- I have to go Google this,
• 42:43
  'cause I gotta know why is, this appear to be the '80s, but she has
• 42:47
  this touchscreen device?" Supposedly, the director did that on purpose to
• 42:55
  make it feel more like a nightmare.
• 42:57
  So that it was- Oh … more outside of time, so that you couldn't really
• 43:01
  pinpoint what era this movie is- Oh
• 43:04
  actually taking place in.
• 43:05
  Okay.
• 43:06
  And so, which I, it's ki- it's kind of a neat thing.
• 43:08
  So maybe it's a- That is kind of cool … maybe it's a similar thing.
• 43:10
  Maybe.
• 43:10
  Yeah.
• 43:11
  So in that universe, weather is not a reality?
• 43:15
  Well, like I said, if it's like a nightmare, then, like, things
• 43:16
  in a nightmare don't make sense.
• 43:17
  Just don't make sense, yeah.
• 43:18
  I guess.
• 43:19
  And so maybe- Nothing makes sense … maybe that's- Not a single
• 43:21
  thing … maybe that's just, yeah.
• 43:21
  That ugly puka shell necklace she wore t- on that date did not make sense.
• 43:30
  Oh my gosh … while she went to dinner after he's clearly seeing things that
• 43:34
  are not there, but then you still go.
• 43:36
  You still, okay, I got-
• 43:39
  Laid out … the, the boy, you're just talking, you're
• 43:43
  having a fine time, whatever.
• 43:45
  He sees somebody that's clearly not there, then he starts acting sketchy.
• 43:48
  Yeah.
• 43:49
  And is like, "We gotta go."
• 43:50
  You don't even get to watch- The movie?
• 43:51
  … the movie.
• 43:52
  Mm-hmm.
• 43:52
  And then, "Okay, yeah, let's go get a burger." And then furthermore, you
• 44:00
  are going to go out to them, some abandoned area with this young man
• 44:07
  who is clearly have some mental issues
• 44:12
  And I understand, look, things get to thinging and you
• 44:16
  like- But why were you there?
• 44:19
  Because- Yeah … he was clearly not right.
• 44:22
  W- oh- That was just a bad if he were a completely normal, there were no
• 44:25
  red flags before that, I could be like, "I see how that happened." Yeah.
• 44:29
  You know?
• 44:29
  Yeah.
• 44:30
  I see how you got to the car and that happened.
• 44:32
  Yeah.
• 44:32
  But girl- Yeah … you're an adult.
• 44:35
  She's, like, in college.
• 44:37
  You should know that.
• 44:39
  I guess if you're desperate- I guess … really desperate, I don't know.
• 44:43
  But she wasn't that desperate, right?
• 44:44
  'Cause they had been out a couple of times.
• 44:46
  Yeah.
• 44:47
  And they, she was like, it was her sister I guess said, "Have you guys yet?" Mm.
• 44:52
  And she said, "No, I think he wants to." Mm. So yeah, he definitely did want to,
• 44:57
  and that also would be, that would mess you up so hard to realize that dude
• 45:04
  went out with you multiple times- Yeah
• 45:06
  just so he could pass on this terrible thing to you.
• 45:09
  He's grooming her.
• 45:10
  Yeah.
• 45:10
  Yeah.
• 45:10
  Yeah.
• 45:11
  That would be so psychologically upsetting.
• 45:14
  It would.
• 45:15
  I would have a hard time trusting anybody after that.
• 45:17
  And she should have a hard time.
• 45:19
  Yeah.
• 45:20
  Um, also it's like, okay, if he is so worried about this thing following him,
• 45:26
  like, it was just interesting to me this, the cheese touch was at the theater- Yeah
• 45:31
  and then he was not concerned about it getting to the restaurant.
• 45:35
  I mean, that probably would've been, like, a, a, a 30-minute, a 30-minute walk, yeah.
• 45:39
  Like, his urgency, like, was there, but then it wasn't, but then it was
• 45:43
  there- Mm … but then it wasn't, and that made no sense to me.
• 45:45
  Well, and seating yourself, you know this thing's after you, and you seat
• 45:50
  yourself in a movie theater, a dark place where you can't see behind you.
• 45:57
  Like, you have, like, that's not good tactical skills.
• 46:02
  And then to leave, at least at the diner maybe he could see
• 46:05
  out the windows and around.
• 46:07
  Like, you have a better chance of seeing it.
• 46:09
  Yeah.
• 46:09
  But I don't know.
• 46:10
  I mean, it does seem And a- okay, this thing is not smart because if
• 46:16
  it were trying, at least halfway, it could've gotten her so many times.
• 46:20
  That girl fell asleep outside on the hood of her car all night.
• 46:26
  Yeah.
• 46:27
  And nothing touched her.
• 46:28
  This I'm convinced it is lazy.
• 46:31
  Like, you're not even trying.
• 46:34
  It's no Michael Myers.
• 46:35
  It is not.
• 46:35
  Make no mistake.
• 46:36
  No.
• 46:37
  That's hilarious.
• 46:38
  I forgot that.
• 46:39
  It's been a while since I have watched this movie, and I
• 46:41
  thought about re-watching it, but I just didn't have time- No
• 46:44
  so I forgot that she fell asleep on the hood of her car.
• 46:45
  Don't do that to yourself.
• 46:47
  Yeah, and I just feel like-
• 46:51
  The, um, I didn't get the explanations I was hoping for, right?
• 46:54
  So like why, where did this thing begin?
• 46:56
  What are the origins?
• 46:57
  Like, yeah, I wanna know that too.
• 46:58
  Why are you transmitting it in this way?
• 47:01
  I had questions, and it never… It's just like, "This is the thing." And you're
• 47:05
  watching this one person deal with it.
• 47:07
  You get no answers- Yeah … no backstory, no nothing.
• 47:11
  And then really there's not a good resolution- No … either.
• 47:15
  I did like how it ended.
• 47:18
  You did?
• 47:19
  I kinda did.
• 47:20
  I also liked the- 'Cause that hacked me off
• 47:21
  I liked how it ended.
• 47:22
  I mean- For real?
• 47:23
  … 'cause it's just like- Yeah.
• 47:23
  I, I thought it was cool that it had that thing in the background … see,
• 47:26
  it's like you don't know if it's did they successfully pass it off, or do they-
• 47:30
  Oh … still have it, and that someone who is like is in she's touch phone.
• 47:35
  It's that, that's one of the creepy things about it too, is, you know, like,
• 47:38
  you don't know at any given time is it just somebody walking towards you, or
• 47:43
  is it that thing coming to kill you?
• 47:45
  Yeah.
• 47:45
  Yeah.
• 47:45
  When they were sitting on the grass and he's like, "Do you
• 47:47
  see that girl hiding?" Yeah.
• 47:49
  It's just a random girl.
• 47:50
  And they're like, "Yeah." And she, like, he waited until it was
• 47:53
  right up on them, so she heard it.
• 47:55
  Yeah.
• 47:55
  It was so weird.
• 47:56
  Like- I would've been so- You could've asked- … uncomfortable
• 47:57
  … when she was 50 yards away.
• 48:00
  You're so right.
• 48:01
  I need to talk about this darn pool scene because- Oh, okay … I'm like,
• 48:07
  they go from, like- Well, but is this also after… I think this is
• 48:12
  also after- That's like- … the big event … the climax of the… Yeah.
• 48:16
  Are we- So- Are we ready to discuss that?
• 48:17
  Yeah, we… Okay, firstly- Well, so the peach- Can we run it back even before…
• 48:20
  Yeah.
• 48:21
  Sure.
• 48:21
  So even before that.
• 48:22
  Okay.
• 48:22
  Okay.
• 48:23
  The first time she saw it in her home- Mm-hmm … the girl that got
• 48:26
  into her house that first night.
• 48:28
  Oh.
• 48:29
  Why was it peeing?
• 48:31
  Yeah.
• 48:31
  Yeah, that don't… I didn't get that.
• 48:33
  Wasn't it also naked?
• 48:33
  Yeah, so, like, they're all in some state of undress basically.
• 48:37
  So sometimes they're, like, completely naked.
• 48:38
  Sometimes they have, like, just the top off or whatever.
• 48:41
  Ugh.
• 48:41
  So she was, like, partially unclothed.
• 48:45
  She's peeing everywhere.
• 48:47
  I say that, but nobody else can see it, so is it real?
• 48:50
  Is it r- is there- Real pee?
• 48:51
  … is there water on the ground just following her?
• 48:53
  Do other people see that?
• 48:54
  'Cause when you throw the blanket over the dad at the end, when it's
• 48:58
  taken the form of her dad, like, it covered him, so- Well, and I think
• 49:03
  you could see its blood when they shot it in the pool or something.
• 49:05
  Yeah.
• 49:06
  Maybe.
• 49:06
  So, like, you can see its bodily fluid at that point- I believe- … but not-
• 49:09
  So hacked off … just some random pee Well, we don't, we don't know if… Like,
• 49:12
  so the blood that we saw in the pool, we don't know if that's- From- Like,
• 49:16
  if you're infected, can you see that?
• 49:18
  Or if you're not infected, can you still see it?
• 49:20
  Oh, we don't know.
• 49:20
  Or is that- Yeah … is it still invisible?
• 49:22
  That, that's- I mean, that's true … yeah, we, so we, we don't know.
• 49:23
  'Cause it was through her eyes at that point.
• 49:24
  Right.
• 49:25
  Right.
• 49:25
  Yeah.
• 49:26
  So I don't know.
• 49:27
  That was weird.
• 49:29
  Yeah, that, I don't… I'm sure there's probably some kind of symbolic…
• 49:33
  I mean, I'm sure there's probably some kind of meaning behind it.
• 49:35
  Probably so.
• 49:36
  It, it went way over my head.
• 49:37
  Yeah.
• 49:37
  I'll admit, so.
• 49:37
  And I did not care to go deep into it.
• 49:40
  Same.
• 49:40
  Same.
• 49:41
  Yeah.
• 49:41
  Yeah.
• 49:41
  But there are probably… if somebody's a big fan of it and is very intellectual
• 49:44
  and whatnot- You cannot be slow … they might be listening to this and be
• 49:47
  like, "These idiots, they don't understand"- And you're right, we don't
• 49:50
  how to interpret great art.
• 49:51
  And you're right.
• 49:52
  And I don't care to.
• 49:53
  Oh, yeah.
• 49:53
  Yeah.
• 49:54
  I don't either.
• 49:54
  I'm a simple country- I can't interpret … bumpkin, I guess.
• 49:57
  Look, I watch scary movies not for the depth.
• 50:00
  I just like the good scares, you know?
• 50:02
  I usually- Yeah.
• 50:02
  Yeah.
• 50:02
  Yeah.
• 50:03
  So there was that girl in the beginning.
• 50:05
  And then I think the next big one was- Greg's mom probably- Was
• 50:09
  that before or after the beach?
• 50:09
  I think that was af- No, okay, that was after the
• 50:11
  beach … that was after the beach.
• 50:12
  After.
• 50:12
  So there's the beach.
• 50:13
  The beach, the part that I wanna talk about on the beach is
• 50:16
  the… My goodness, I don't know.
• 50:19
  I may talk about this in the, uh, dumb decisions, actually.
• 50:22
  Mm-hmm.
• 50:22
  I feel like we can revisit a few things there.
• 50:24
  Yeah, I mean, just the whole, you know, she, she tries to shoot it,
• 50:28
  you know- Yeah … and just walks out there and is basically just like, "So
• 50:32
  I just started blasting," you know?
• 50:34
  Essentially.
• 50:34
  You know?
• 50:34
  And poor, uh- Greg … Greg.
• 50:38
  Yeah.
• 50:38
  Yeah, I can't even remember all their names.
• 50:39
  He's out there clearly on the beach, clearly in the line of sight-
• 50:42
  Mm-hmm … and she's just firing away.
• 50:46
  Well, that's what Paul did, too.
• 50:47
  Yeah, at- In the pool … at the pool And shot that little girl in the leg.
• 50:51
  It's yeah, let's just keep- Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew.
• 50:55
  This is insane.
• 50:56
  Yeah.
• 50:57
  You, at this point he can't even see it.
• 50:59
  At least Jay could see the thing in front of her.
• 51:02
  And I could see how you'd be like, "All right. There's a physical thing in
• 51:05
  front of me. I'm shooting at it." Yeah.
• 51:07
  He is wildly shooting at nothing.
• 51:09
  And his friends are over there.
• 51:11
  Yeah.
• 51:11
  And I'm c- convinced.
• 51:13
  Here's the deal.
• 51:14
  We've talked about this before.
• 51:16
  People in the South don't be doing that stuff.
• 51:19
  Gun safety is a more probably well-understood concept.
• 51:25
  Even if you don't own guns or shoot guns you understand that
• 51:29
  on the other end of this barrel you don't want a person you like.
• 51:33
  Bad things.
• 51:33
  You don't even want them close.
• 51:36
  Yeah.
• 51:37
  But no, let's just bing, bang, bing, ba-boom.
• 51:39
  Like- Bing, ba, boom.
• 51:42
  What are you even doing, Paul?
• 51:45
  Yeah.
• 51:46
  I… Well, and that's like how did they go from, like, that whole
• 51:50
  fiasco at the beach- Mm … where they're like… Then they get,
• 51:53
  like, trapped in that shed with it.
• 51:55
  Yeah, and she- And then she- … ran off and left them.
• 51:58
  Yes.
• 51:58
  And- And then wrecked the car … then wrecks the car.
• 52:01
  I mean, like- Yes … a second after you get in it.
• 52:03
  Can I ask you how hitting a mailbox and some corn knocked you out?
• 52:08
  Yeah.
• 52:08
  This girl is weak.
• 52:10
  What kind of corn is this?
• 52:12
  I mean, that's cement corn, girl.
• 52:16
  I do not know.
• 52:17
  Right.
• 52:18
  Seriously, just the lack of direction, How
• 52:21
  Did I miss it?
• 52:21
  Or like when did they come up with this plan to go to the pool and electro- and
• 52:27
  like put all of these electric things- Mm … in the water with Jay also in the water?
• 52:33
  He also had- So I think the plan- … the idea … Yeah, go ahead.
• 52:34
  Yeah, the plan was for her to get out, and then they were gonna start
• 52:37
  just putting these electronics in the water or appliances in the
• 52:41
  water and to- 'Cause It's slow.
• 52:42
  They wanted her to be in the middle.
• 52:44
  The idea was for it to try and just, you know, w- you know, singular-mindedly
• 52:50
  like go after her, go into the water.
• 52:52
  But that boy, Hugh, he was like, "It's not dumb." Yeah.
• 52:56
  So It started being like, "Oh, I'm gonna pick up this toaster and throw it in there
• 53:00
  with you." Like, I'll electrocute- Oh
• 53:02
  you first." That's why that stuff started throw- getting thrown in, 'cause the
• 53:05
  thing was throwing it in- Oh … instead of getting in like they thought.
• 53:09
  Yeah, so it can actually … This actually I'm just now realizing.
• 53:13
  Mm-hmm.
• 53:13
  This thing can think.
• 53:15
  Yeah.
• 53:16
  I don't know why that, that just dawned on me until now- I think he told her that
• 53:19
  'cause … Yeah, yeah.
• 53:20
  He said, "It's slow, but it's not dumb." Yeah.
• 53:21
  Right, 'cause he stopped, 'cause they, they were like, "Okay, I'm
• 53:23
  in the pool." "Oh, no, there it is," and she's pointing it out.
• 53:26
  And it's … No, no, he's, he's not moving.
• 53:28
  He just stopped And then it started picking up those appliances and
• 53:31
  throwing them in the water with her.
• 53:33
  Yeah.
• 53:33
  Oh, okay.
• 53:34
  That makes sense.
• 53:34
  I wonder if I just missed… But they didn't talk about the plan, or, like, they
• 53:38
  didn't come to him and- No, he just, he just said- … we just have to figure out-
• 53:40
  That's what they're about to do … yeah.
• 53:42
  Mm. He just said, "Do you trust me?" And then they go to the pool and
• 53:44
  start plugging in appliances, and- And like, "No, Paul, I don't trust you."
• 53:48
  Yeah.
• 53:49
  "You're a little weasel man." He is.
• 53:52
  And- He's just such a sad puppy.
• 53:53
  Yeah.
• 53:54
  And I don't understand also, this thing walks very slowly.
• 53:58
  But all of a sudden it becomes Michael Phelps when it comes into the water.
• 54:03
  It's true.
• 54:04
  It's a water bender.
• 54:05
  I guess so.
• 54:07
  Like, what are you doing?
• 54:08
  I guess.
• 54:09
  It was so fast.
• 54:10
  Yeah.
• 54:11
  It, she was out in the middle of this huge pool, and just boom, I got your leg.
• 54:16
  What?
• 54:18
  See, I don't… That, that also is something that doesn't sit right with
• 54:21
  me, because if it can swim, and it can swim well, why doesn't it run?
• 54:26
  Yeah.
• 54:26
  And to me it would've been, it would make more sense and it would be more
• 54:30
  creepy and, and more in line with, or more consistent if it would have
• 54:35
  just wandered out into the pool.
• 54:37
  'Cause it's, it… I don't know, it's almost, to me, scarier if it's, like, this
• 54:40
  mindless thing that just doesn't stop.
• 54:42
  Right.
• 54:43
  Yeah.
• 54:43
  And it also kinda teleported when she was at class, and it s- she saw it.
• 54:47
  She was sitting there, and she saw it out the window.
• 54:49
  Oh, yeah, and it was- And it was walking toward her, and I was like, okay, she's
• 54:52
  in the building, so if she just keeps eyes on it, she's in the building.
• 54:55
  But she's walking down the hallway, and it was walking straight toward her
• 54:57
  to the classroom, and she had made, like, a couple stops, and then she
• 55:00
  just looks around behind her in the hallway, and it's all of a sudden there.
• 55:04
  It's like- And so it just kind of appeared there, but you
• 55:04
  can just drive away from it.
• 55:05
  Why can't it just poof into the car with you if it can- Oh … pop up
• 55:09
  wherever?
• 55:09
  Yeah, and, but also, like, why
• 55:13
  was it on the roof?
• 55:14
  That, that also- Just standing there- I don't know … on the roof.
• 55:18
  Yeah.
• 55:19
  That didn't make any sense.
• 55:19
  No, it didn't.
• 55:20
  Well, the first night, I couldn't tell if that was it or if it was
• 55:25
  Paul, 'cause he was such a little creeper- … outside her window.
• 55:29
  It was, um, like, she woke up or she went to sleep or something that first night.
• 55:33
  It must've been it, but it was, like, crouched up next
• 55:37
  to the house under her window.
• 55:40
  Did you see that?
• 55:41
  I did not see that.
• 55:42
  Yeah, it was, like, right at the beginning.
• 55:44
  Huh.
• 55:44
  And it was fully clothed, so I couldn't tell, but it could have
• 55:47
  also taken the shape of Paul.
• 55:50
  Yeah.
• 55:50
  So I assumed it was just, like, kinda waiting there.
• 55:52
  Mm. And I'm like, "Why didn't you just get in?" Ah, man.
• 55:55
  Yeah.
• 55:55
  It's so… All right.
• 55:56
  So again, this is all kinda just coming into my head now.
• 55:58
  It can get on the roof- Mm-hmm … but it can't get through a door?
• 56:04
  Yeah.
• 56:04
  It always has to bust the window and go through the window.
• 56:07
  Ooh-wee, that, when, uh, her little friend was…
• 56:11
  And they, you know, she at first- In the doorway … opened the
• 56:13
  door for after she saw the peeing girl, and then she closed it.
• 56:18
  Her sister and Paul came up, and then the, uh, the, um, li-
• 56:21
  Yes … little mermaid girl came up.
• 56:24
  And she was like, "It's me. There's nobody out here." And they opened it,
• 56:26
  and it was, like, that big, tall thing.
• 56:27
  That tall man.
• 56:29
  That scared me.
• 56:29
  That was creepy.
• 56:30
  Yeah, no, that was creepy.
• 56:31
  That absolutely- That was creepy … got me.
• 56:31
  I did like that.
• 56:32
  Yeah.
• 56:32
  And they got me with another jump scare when they were at what's
• 56:35
  his name's abandoned house.
• 56:37
  Uh-huh.
• 56:37
  And the sister the closet wall popped open, and it she was
• 56:41
  there through the other side.
• 56:42
  Oh, yeah.
• 56:43
  And it was just an accident.
• 56:43
  It was, like, a funny little thing, but- Yeah … that, I
• 56:46
  kinda, they got me on that one.
• 56:48
  Yeah, some, some things did get me.
• 56:50
  Yeah.
• 56:52
  All right, are you r- ready to talk about the- I think so.
• 56:56
  Yeah.
• 56:57
  I just wanna know why.
• 56:59
  Yes.
• 56:59
  Like, why?
• 57:00
  Yes.
• 57:00
  Yeah.
• 57:00
  There was absolutely no reason.
• 57:00
  We, we didn't have to do that.
• 57:02
  I feel like this is, like, my issue with Saw, with, like, the Saw movies.
• 57:06
  Okay.
• 57:06
  Is, like, it just, it was just added for shock factor and, like, because they
• 57:12
  can get away with, with doing something like that, 'cause that was wrong.
• 57:15
  So for those of you who have not watched this movie, and I feel like we
• 57:20
  do a good job really of, like, talking about it, and you could probably
• 57:24
  listen to this episode and not watch it and have a good idea what happens.
• 57:29
  So- What was his name?
• 57:31
  Greg?
• 57:32
  Yeah.
• 57:32
  Yeah.
• 57:32
  J gives Greg the cheese touch, and Greg's, like, super chill about it,
• 57:38
  and he's, like, acting like nothing's happened, no big deal, after seeing all
• 57:42
  of this, like, weird stuff at the beach.
• 57:45
  And then one night she wakes up, 'cause I think she hears something
• 57:49
  across the street, and she looks over across the street because her and Greg
• 57:52
  are next door, like, they- they're, like, neighbors, and she sees a woman.
• 57:57
  I don't think at this point we know who this woman is.
• 57:59
  I mean, we know it's the entity, but, like, who it is we don't know
• 58:02
  the identity that it's taking over.
• 58:05
  Anyway, so she's, like, trying to, I think, get its attention,
• 58:08
  and it breaks- Well, 'cause she thought it was him, 'cause it
• 58:10
  looked like him when it was outside.
• 58:11
  Yeah, it looked like a man when it was outside.
• 58:12
  Oh.
• 58:13
  I think it w- it was him, like, in pajamas.
• 58:16
  Oh, okay.
• 58:16
  And she was, like, trying to knock.
• 58:17
  She was like hey, hey." And then I think she realized it wasn't him
• 58:21
  when it couldn't get in the house.
• 58:23
  Yeah.
• 58:23
  Oh, okay.
• 58:24
  And it tried to get in that way.
• 58:24
  Yeah, it broke the window and crawled in.
• 58:25
  Yeah.
• 58:26
  So then she follows it- … and goes into the house, and then we learn this
• 58:33
  entity is Greg's mother, and she is, like, pounding on Greg's door pounding, and he
• 58:39
  opens the door and he's like, "What the heck, Mom?" And then she attacks him.
• 58:45
  And does unspeakable things- … to her son.
• 58:51
  And just, they could have honestly not shown, they could have,
• 58:56
  like, not acted that out and you would've- Yeah … had an idea.
• 59:01
  But you see exactly what's happening.
• 59:05
  Yeah.
• 59:05
  And it's awful.
• 59:07
  Uh, yeah.
• 59:07
  There's- It changed me … no reason for that … for the worst.
• 59:11
  It changed me.
• 59:11
  Yeah.
• 59:11
  That, I don't even know how… 'Cause we watched this, I think back in 2014.
• 59:16
  Probably.
• 59:16
  Shortly after it came out.
• 59:17
  Yeah.
• 59:18
  I did not remember that at all, so I don't know if I just- Blocked it out.
• 59:21
  I guess so.
• 59:22
  Is it that bad?
• 59:22
  'Cause and you didn't remember either.
• 59:23
  Honestly, it may not have been in a theatrical release.
• 59:25
  It's that- Maybe not.
• 59:27
  I don't know … weird.
• 59:28
  I, I don't remember that at all.
• 59:30
  Really?
• 59:31
  And when- That's weird that you don't remember.
• 59:33
  Yeah.
• 59:33
  I feel like I would've recalled that.
• 59:34
  'Cause that to me is like… All right.
• 59:37
  So have you seen the movie Barbarian?
• 59:41
  N- yes, it was on.
• 59:43
  I put it on, but then it was when Taylor Swift tickets were on sale.
• 59:47
  And so I got into the queue and I was laser focused on that.
• 59:51
  Okay.
• 59:51
  So I need to rewatch it.
• 59:52
  Yeah.
• 59:53
  So you don't remember anything shocking there?
• 59:54
  Put that, put that on the wheel.
• 59:55
  Not really.
• 59:55
  I think it might- I'll check it.
• 59:57
  'Cause if- Yeah, definitely put that on the wheel if it's not there.
• 1:00:00
  Um- It's on.
• 1:00:01
  No, it's not, it's not on the level of what we're talking about with this,
• 1:00:06
  but it's definitely something that when you see this scene, you're, it's
• 1:00:10
  very unlikely you will forget it.
• 1:00:11
  Let me put it that way.
• 1:00:12
  Yeah.
• 1:00:12
  So that's the thing, I don't… yeah, I don't know if maybe it just wasn't
• 1:00:15
  in the version that we watched or- I'm wondering if we saw, like, a director's
• 1:00:18
  cut or an extended cut or- I don't know … uh- 'Cause I do not remember that-
• 1:00:22
  … differently rated- … at all … version.
• 1:00:25
  Yeah, I don't remember that at all.
• 1:00:28
  Um- So then maybe, maybe it was left out.
• 1:00:30
  There was literally no reason.
• 1:00:33
  No.
• 1:00:34
  Yeah.
• 1:00:34
  I couldn't tell you.
• 1:00:35
  Yeah, 'cause that goes back to what I was saying earlier, like,
• 1:00:38
  I… If it doesn't make the movie more frightening- Then why do it?
• 1:00:46
  Yeah.
• 1:00:47
  Yeah.
• 1:00:47
  Because for me, it, it certainly did not make it more scary.
• 1:00:51
  It was just unnecessary.
• 1:00:53
  Yeah.
• 1:00:54
  And just made, just made me, it made me feel uncomfortable.
• 1:00:57
  I mean, I'll be- Oh, absolutely.
• 1:00:58
  And it doesn't- For sure, but I don't, that's not why-
• 1:01:00
  Yeah … I watch a horror movie.
• 1:01:02
  I don't watch it to … just 'cause I wanna feel uncomfortable.
• 1:01:05
  It's 'cause I like to watch scary movies.
• 1:01:07
  Right.
• 1:01:07
  Right.
• 1:01:07
  Yeah.
• 1:01:07
  And sometimes there's a shocking thing that happens in a movie or a TV show
• 1:01:11
  that advances the plot, or it- Right
• 1:01:13
  makes you have a different understanding of the situation at hand.
• 1:01:16
  That's not the case here.
• 1:01:17
  No, yeah.
• 1:01:18
  Yeah.
• 1:01:19
  . I think, and maybe they could, like, I think maybe would it have been
• 1:01:24
  different for y'all if it wasn't his mom?
• 1:01:27
  Y- yeah, it definitely, I mean, it would've been like, "Why?" But
• 1:01:31
  it also, yeah, I mean, it being his mom, there's a diff- there's
• 1:01:35
  a different level of- Sickness
• 1:01:37
  WTF.
• 1:01:38
  Yeah, 'cause I mean, it's, it, you could sit here and realize that, all right,
• 1:01:43
  so the truth of it is it's not his mom.
• 1:01:45
  Yeah.
• 1:01:45
  It's, it's the entity.
• 1:01:46
  But it's, it's still the visual representation- Yeah … of his mom,
• 1:01:51
  and so that's what makes it just icky.
• 1:01:53
  Icky, yeah.
• 1:01:54
  And yeah, just that to me just completely, I mean, it
• 1:01:58
  basically ruins the movie for me.
• 1:02:00
  I kind of, I agree with that.
• 1:02:01
  And I don't think she, she did, she didn't tell anybody at all, did she?
• 1:02:05
  She didn't talk to her friends or her sister about that?
• 1:02:09
  I don't remember if she did or not.
• 1:02:10
  I don't think she does.
• 1:02:10
  They don't show it.
• 1:02:11
  If she did, I'm like I would be needing to, um- Debrief.
• 1:02:14
  Yeah.
• 1:02:14
  I would need, like a, a se- a session.
• 1:02:17
  Yeah.
• 1:02:17
  Yeah.
• 1:02:19
  But then we see, like, what happens to you whenever, like, it gets you, so I thought,
• 1:02:23
  "Okay, well, then that little detail was important for the plot," but overall,
• 1:02:26
  like, we did not need- No … all of that.
• 1:02:28
  He could've been mangled like that girl at the beginning, and
• 1:02:31
  that probably would've been more visually impactful than what we saw.
• 1:02:35
  Yes.
• 1:02:36
  So that, yeah not the best decision.
• 1:02:39
  Yeah.
• 1:02:39
  Speaking of decisions- Shall we talk about the dumbest ones?
• 1:02:44
  The dumbest- We shall … decisions.
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  Okay.
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  I mean, I kinda have gone through kinda my tops.
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  I've got, I've got a few that we haven't mentioned yet- Okay.
• 1:02:51
  How about that?
• 1:02:53
  … I don't think we've touched on yet.
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  So, uh, first one, when they went to, I think it may have been the, the
• 1:02:59
  lake house where… or Greg's family's lake house- Yeah … or whatever.
• 1:03:02
  Was that the one where they were hanging up the noise makers over the windows?
• 1:03:06
  There was the rope with- Mm … the little rattly things on them.
• 1:03:08
  I think that was the house that Hugh had been staying at.
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  They found them at his house, and then I think… I can't remember if
• 1:03:16
  they hung those up there or when she, when they went back home to her house.
• 1:03:20
  There was a scene- And they were all gonna stay.
• 1:03:22
  There was one where they were hanging them up.
• 1:03:23
  Yeah.
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  And they're hanging them up- I can't remember if it was there or at her house
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  in front of the window.
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  Yeah.
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  Because when someone breaks the glass- Thank goodness.
• 1:03:31
  Thank goodness we put something there to rattle so that I
• 1:03:35
  don't hear the window breaking.
• 1:03:38
  The, the glass shattering?
• 1:03:41
  No, as soon as I saw that, I- I was like, this is the Signs episode all over again
• 1:03:44
  because that did not occur to me at all.
• 1:03:46
  I know.
• 1:03:46
  I was like- I know … oh, he hung those up so he could hear it coming.
• 1:03:50
  No, I saw that- Yeah … and I was like, "That's dumb." Okay.
• 1:03:54
  What are you doing?
• 1:03:55
  Do you- When you say it, when you put it like that- Right … it makes sense.
• 1:03:58
  No, I really do appreciate that about you guys because I literally watched that
• 1:04:03
  and had zero thoughts, zero thoughts.
• 1:04:06
  So whenever you, like, watch a movie or watch a show, are you like, "Well,
• 1:04:09
  that's not realistic. That's not realistic. That wouldn't happen." Yeah.
• 1:04:12
  "This is dumb." Do you do that a lot?
• 1:04:14
  Beth can, uh- Alek does it to you.
• 1:04:16
  She can vouch for that.
• 1:04:17
  Alek does it to you, and sometimes I'm like, "Oh, my God, if you
• 1:04:19
  say one more freaking thing- Yes
• 1:04:21
  I'm gonna kick you out of here." It's movie magic.
• 1:04:24
  Movie magic, Alek.
• 1:04:25
  But- Yeah there's a- How many times have I told you?
• 1:04:27
  It's called willing suspension of disbelief.
• 1:04:30
  Like that is what it is.
• 1:04:31
  I don't, one- That's a lot of words … one that stands out, it's the
• 1:04:34
  opening scene, scene two, or one of the opening scenes of, uh, Walking Dead.
• 1:04:38
  I can't remember which, which… or not, not the opening scene, but it's
• 1:04:42
  in the first episode where they're aiming a gun 'cause they're, there's,
• 1:04:47
  like, somebody dropped- Oh, my goodness … they got a- It's always guns with
• 1:04:50
  him … anyway they, he's, he's holding- This might- … he's holding a Glock.
• 1:04:52
  Yeah.
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  And he looks at him.
• 1:04:52
  He goes, "Oh, your safety's on." And he does this thing with his thumb, and
• 1:04:55
  I looked over at Beth and I was like, "Glocks don't have safeties." Oh, yeah.
• 1:04:59
  And so, you know.
• 1:04:59
  Alek would've done the same thing.
• 1:05:01
  Yeah.
• 1:05:01
  Yeah, so I mean, it's stuff like that where if I see- Right … stuff in a movie
• 1:05:04
  and I'm like, "Oh, that wouldn't work."
• 1:05:04
  You just have to point it out.
• 1:05:05
  Yeah, like, that's, that's dumb.
• 1:05:07
  Well, no one- Or if there's- … no one would do that … bad form, like a police
• 1:05:09
  officer or a military person and they're, like, not holding the gun correctly.
• 1:05:13
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:05:13
  He's like, "They would've been trained better than that."
• 1:05:15
  Alek does the same thing.
• 1:05:16
  Is it like a, it's like you're twitching.
• 1:05:18
  You're like, "Don't say it.
• 1:05:19
  Don't say it." And you're like, "I just gotta say it." I gotta say it.
• 1:05:22
  Some- sometimes, yeah.
• 1:05:22
  I mean, it's, if it's, if it's really blatant, like, it's something stupid.
• 1:05:26
  You know, like- Yeah … I mean, like, if it's, if it's a police
• 1:05:28
  officer and they, they're holding a gun in an unsafe manner- Right
• 1:05:32
  or, like, finger on the trigger and pointing it at somebody they're
• 1:05:34
  not meaning to shoot- Mm … then that's where you're like, "Oh, okay,
• 1:05:36
  that's… What are you doing?" Yeah.
• 1:05:37
  "Did anybody advise this?" Yeah.
• 1:05:39
  But yeah, so there was that one.
• 1:05:41
  That's fantastic.
• 1:05:41
  And of course more, more gun safety.
• 1:05:44
  Well, I say gun safety.
• 1:05:45
  Really, the stupid thing here was, so on the beach when she, the thing
• 1:05:50
  is attacking, and they're like, "Oh, okay, I gotta get the gun."
• 1:05:54
  She runs into this little building.
• 1:05:57
  She takes the box down from the shelf, opens the box up,
• 1:06:00
  starts retrieving the gun.
• 1:06:01
  Why didn't you just grab the box and run out of the room?
• 1:06:05
  We know this thing walks.
• 1:06:06
  Yeah.
• 1:06:06
  We know it doesn't run.
• 1:06:07
  We know you can get away from it.
• 1:06:08
  Go get the gun, get out of the room, the little trap you just put yourself into.
• 1:06:13
  Go- With only one exit, right?
• 1:06:15
  Right.
• 1:06:15
  Yeah.
• 1:06:15
  Well, we, we found out it had that other, with that side sliding door- Yeah, that's
• 1:06:18
  true … after it busted the first door.
• 1:06:19
  But it's like why did you do that- Yeah, it was so- … at all?
• 1:06:23
  Like she's like, "Okay, let me open the box and get the gun out and do…" Like,
• 1:06:26
  no, just grab it and go somewhere else.
• 1:06:29
  Yeah.
• 1:06:29
  I, I don't know.
• 1:06:30
  This girl- That's, that's, that's the kinda stuff that
• 1:06:31
  sticks out to me with this movie.
• 1:06:33
  You would survive in after movie.
• 1:06:33
  Made one bad decision after the other.
• 1:06:34
  Yeah.
• 1:06:35
  Actually- I would not … well, more, more on that later.
• 1:06:37
  I would survive this movie, but- More on that- I think I would
• 1:06:39
  too … more on that later.
• 1:06:41
  Okay.
• 1:06:41
  I, I do have some thoughts on that.
• 1:06:42
  Okay.
• 1:06:42
  Oh.
• 1:06:43
  The other one, dumb decisions, again the, I thought the throwing
• 1:06:47
  electrical appliances into the pool or having that set up where,
• 1:06:51
  like, you're literally sitting in a pool and you have all these- Yeah
• 1:06:53
  electrical appliances just sitting there.
• 1:06:56
  Yeah.
• 1:06:57
  And I, but then it didn't work even a little bit.
• 1:06:59
  No, it didn't, and- Well- … which didn't make sense Uh-uh … not to me.
• 1:07:02
  Were they plugged in?
• 1:07:03
  They were, and then they were like, "Why is it not working?" And I had the
• 1:07:07
  same question, to be honest with you.
• 1:07:08
  Yeah, I- 'Cause, uh, the lights are on in the pool, so it's not
• 1:07:10
  like the electricity was out.
• 1:07:11
  And they had them all plugged into those, um, like surge protectors.
• 1:07:15
  So, so I don't know, and this may be a science thing that
• 1:07:17
  maybe, maybe, I don't know.
• 1:07:18
  I've not researched this, but, there's probably, maybe they, their goal was
• 1:07:23
  to push them all in, like, quickly and push to get- Yeah … more electricity.
• 1:07:28
  I, I don't know if you can just throw one electric appliance-
• 1:07:30
  Oh … into a big pool.
• 1:07:32
  Yes And it's like diluted with all the water.
• 1:07:33
  I think that is true because I think that's probably the case.
• 1:07:37
  Because when I was growing up, we had a family member who had
• 1:07:41
  a pool, and it, you know, like sometimes there'll be lights- Yeah
• 1:07:44
  in the sides of a pool, like an in-ground pool.
• 1:07:48
  And for years, I would go, and when I would kick off of one side,
• 1:07:52
  I could feel, like, something.
• 1:07:55
  And I, and I was like, "I feel like there's some electricity
• 1:07:59
  in the water." You guys, yeah.
• 1:07:59
  But I, for years, just was like, "Well, I guess I won't touch that wall."
• 1:08:03
  And I just, carefree, was just…
• 1:08:05
  And then I told, like, my mom, and she was like, "No, no, no." And I said
• 1:08:10
  something around Chris, our cousin.
• 1:08:12
  He was like I don't know." And then some weeks later, he was like,
• 1:08:15
  "Yeah, I'm glad you said something.
• 1:08:17
  There was definitely a current there." Oh my God.
• 1:08:20
  But I think just because it wasn't, like, strong.
• 1:08:22
  Like there's not a lot of voltage probably- Yeah … in the one TV or
• 1:08:26
  the one whatever compared to this huge, like, Olympic-sized swimming pool.
• 1:08:29
  Right.
• 1:08:30
  So maybe if they were able to put them all in, you could feel some kind of buzz,
• 1:08:33
  but I don't think it would've killed it.
• 1:08:35
  Yeah, I mean, and so that's really all I had for…
• 1:08:38
  I mean, I had, you know, any time a gun was used m- you know, there was
• 1:08:43
  there was complete disregard for what was on the other end of the barrel.
• 1:08:46
  Uh, but other than that, that's, that's all I got for dumb decisions on this one.
• 1:08:49
  Okay.
• 1:08:49
  Well, mine were pretty obvious.
• 1:08:51
  Poor Jay just- Trying to be with this man.
• 1:08:57
  I don't know.
• 1:08:58
  Poor girl.
• 1:08:58
  That w- I mean- Yeah … you know, the whole thing could've been
• 1:09:01
  avoided if she would've just not, Yeah, just put up better boundaries,
• 1:09:05
  friend … if she would've just stopped- Mm … when he went crazy.
• 1:09:08
  Save yourself for marriage.
• 1:09:08
  I mean, that, this is, like- What a boundary … the poster what a great
• 1:09:13
  advertisement for- For saving yourself-
• 1:09:15
  for marriage.
• 1:09:16
  I know.
• 1:09:17
  Yeah, because if you dated somebody long enough to get married to them,
• 1:09:19
  you would know if they were being chased by an entity by that point.
• 1:09:22
  Surely.
• 1:09:22
  Yeah.
• 1:09:23
  Yeah.
• 1:09:23
  You know?
• 1:09:23
  And they're probably not gonna marry you just so they can pass off this
• 1:09:26
  thing to you, to their spouse now.
• 1:09:28
  Well- Fellas are cool with that.
• 1:09:29
  Yeah, playing the, playing the long game.
• 1:09:30
  But, but what's-his-name and- Some people would … those little weirdos
• 1:09:32
  stayed together at the end, Jay and Paul.
• 1:09:36
  Yeah.
• 1:09:36
  They were, I guess they were just like, "Well, it'll get both of us. Paul, it'll
• 1:09:40
  get you first, then me." I did think it was funny, like the whole scene,
• 1:09:44
  because I guess she does give it to Paul.
• 1:09:46
  Yeah.
• 1:09:46
  And then you see him, like, driving his car, and you see those two
• 1:09:48
  hookers on the side of the road.
• 1:09:49
  Yeah.
• 1:09:50
  And I was like, "My goodness gracious, he's gonna give it to those poor hookers."
• 1:09:54
  But then I was like, "Why didn't you?" That actually wouldn't be a bad idea.
• 1:09:56
  Because then, yeah, 'cause they're gonna give it to who even knows?
• 1:10:02
  A lot of people, and then that person is g- Like, here's the deal.
• 1:10:07
  Smart.
• 1:10:07
  This is not, I'm not saying this in a judgy way.
• 1:10:10
  It's just a matter of fact.
• 1:10:12
  Yeah.
• 1:10:12
  Folks who are soliciting that probably are not that choosy, so they're probably-
• 1:10:21
  Mm … in and about with a lot of people.
• 1:10:24
  Yeah.
• 1:10:24
  So you can multiply the amount-
• 1:10:27
  of folks between you- I had a thought … and the thing.
• 1:10:29
  I had a thought earlier.
• 1:10:31
  The entity is an excellent MLM
• 1:10:38
  Hey, girl.
• 1:10:39
  Haven't seen you in a while.
• 1:10:40
  I know, yeah.
• 1:10:42
  You wanna try my plexus?
• 1:10:45
  And then I forgot to say that, and then you said, like,
• 1:10:49
  "It's just multiplying." Yeah.
• 1:10:50
  It's a pyramid scheme.
• 1:10:51
  It's, it's not a pyramid.
• 1:10:53
  It's a triangle.
• 1:10:56
  You start with, you have one friend- … and then that one friend
• 1:10:59
  makes two other friends, and then each of their friends makes two friends.
• 1:11:02
  Yeah.
• 1:11:03
  I mean, that's what I don't understand.
• 1:11:05
  He could have- Yeah … he could have passed it on.
• 1:11:08
  But okay, so but did he?
• 1:11:09
  I don't, w- we don't- I don't think he- We don't know if he did … did.
• 1:11:12
  I guess we don't know because you can… I think he didn't because- Because of
• 1:11:15
  where it is … if we're to believe that the thing behind them at the end was
• 1:11:19
  the cheese touch, it was following them.
• 1:11:22
  So it really only follows you- Yeah … if you're the one on focus.
• 1:11:26
  So I assumed he was where it had ended.
• 1:11:28
  So now that they're a couple, they're an item.
• 1:11:31
  Yeah.
• 1:11:32
  And do they just pass it back and forth?
• 1:11:34
  Is that how that works?
• 1:11:36
  Oh, I don't know.
• 1:11:38
  You know what I mean?
• 1:11:38
  So then it's like, h- how do you even know who- Who's-
• 1:11:41
  who's it?
• 1:11:41
  … number one?
• 1:11:42
  Yeah.
• 1:11:42
  You know?
• 1:11:43
  It's like playing tag, but with blindfolds.
• 1:11:45
  Yeah.
• 1:11:46
  Oh, wow.
• 1:11:47
  I did not think about that.
• 1:11:48
  Tag with no tag backs.
• 1:11:49
  Yeah.
• 1:11:49
  That's such an interesting concept.
• 1:11:52
  I don't know.
• 1:11:53
  Maybe we'll find out in the sequel.
• 1:11:55
  Can you believe- They, the se- They're making a sequel … oh yeah.
• 1:11:57
  It's coming out next year.
• 1:11:58
  It's called They Follow.
• 1:11:59
  Oh my God.
• 1:12:00
  Is it the same people at least?
• 1:12:01
  It's the same girl.
• 1:12:03
  Same people- She's like, I'm good now … same director, same all, everything.
• 1:12:05
  Oh, so she's gone to acting school.
• 1:12:08
  Well, she's had 12 years.
• 1:12:09
  Yeah.
• 1:12:10
  That- 12, 12 years to… That'd be interesting to see how, how she's
• 1:12:13
  handled this for the last 12 years.
• 1:12:15
  Yeah.
• 1:12:15
  I mean- I just- … I think she did well … I just wanna know, kinda like
• 1:12:19
  what you guys were saying earlier, what, what are, you know, like,
• 1:12:23
  what's the origin of this thing?
• 1:12:24
  Yeah.
• 1:12:24
  How does it work?
• 1:12:25
  What, like, I just wanna know more about the, the thing.
• 1:12:27
  I'm not super pumped about this movie, but- there's a part of me that's curious
• 1:12:31
  about- They Follow … like, what, if they show any more as far as, like, what is
• 1:12:36
  this entity and how do they deal with it?
• 1:12:37
  I feel like you have to.
• 1:12:38
  You, I don't think what they did could sustain itself for another whole
• 1:12:41
  film, just of like, oh, one person.
• 1:12:45
  Well, but see, it's They Follow, so maybe it's more than one that's following.
• 1:12:49
  I guess that's true.
• 1:12:50
  Mm. Now they're getting followed by multiple.
• 1:12:53
  I don't know if that's what it is.
• 1:12:54
  I haven't even- I don't know … I, I halfway watched the trailer.
• 1:12:56
  Uh, so- I didn't even see the trailer … club rules.
• 1:12:59
  Yeah.
• 1:12:59
  Um, for me, I'm gonna go with, uh, keep it in your pants.
• 1:13:03
  Yep.
• 1:13:03
  No ringy, no dingy.
• 1:13:04
  Period.
• 1:13:09
  I could not have predicted a single word that was gonna come out of your mouth.
• 1:13:12
  Just that no ringy, no dingy.
• 1:13:15
  Yeah.
• 1:13:15
  And then you- You never heard that?
• 1:13:17
  No.
• 1:13:17
  Oh.
• 1:13:19
  No, that's hilarious, though.
• 1:13:20
  Have you never heard that?
• 1:13:21
  Where'd you get that from?
• 1:13:22
  I have never heard that, but I'm glad I did tonight.
• 1:13:23
  I thought it was a common saying.
• 1:13:26
  How about that?
• 1:13:27
  So and then, you know, point your guns in a safe direction.
• 1:13:30
  Yeah.
• 1:13:31
  And finally, invest in bars on your windows.
• 1:13:34
  Huh?
• 1:13:36
  Yeah?
• 1:13:37
  You think that would've stopped it?
• 1:13:37
  Maybe.
• 1:13:37
  I mean, so they can't… 'Cause they can't just open a door.
• 1:13:41
  It's got problems with doors.
• 1:13:41
  Yeah, it can't open a door.
• 1:13:42
  It can bust a window and go through.
• 1:13:44
  It can climb on the roof.
• 1:13:45
  But- What is it with these creatures not being able to go through a door?
• 1:13:49
  I know.
• 1:13:49
  It is kinda like the thing in the pantry.
• 1:13:51
  Yeah.
• 1:13:53
  So yeah.
• 1:13:53
  Hmm.
• 1:13:54
  Yeah, I just had don't do the deed.
• 1:13:56
  Yeah.
• 1:13:59
  I mean, it just, I- that's pretty much the rules.
• 1:14:03
  Man, you know what, though- I mean, he gave her the rules once you
• 1:14:05
  have it, once you've gotten it.
• 1:14:08
  Yeah.
• 1:14:08
  Don't, you know, like, don't go in a room that doesn't have-
• 1:14:12
  Only one exit … another exit.
• 1:14:14
  He said a couple of things, but I'm like he gave you the roadmap to survival.
• 1:14:19
  He did, yeah.
• 1:14:19
  'Cause he need you to survive- Yeah … so that he can survive.
• 1:14:23
  And I don't understand why she did not just- Oh … pass it along.
• 1:14:27
  I wonder, it's like, he thinks that she's loose, loosey-goosey, 'cause
• 1:14:31
  he was like, "Oh, she'll pass it on." But my question is, like, she m- she
• 1:14:37
  made him wait more than one date.
• 1:14:39
  So w- is that the person you wanna pass it on to?
• 1:14:43
  You know she's a slower mover than you want to be.
• 1:14:47
  That's a good point.
• 1:14:48
  Wouldn't you think you w- like, there are a lot of people out there-
• 1:14:52
  who treat that like- It's no big deal … sharing some McDonald's fries.
• 1:14:58
  Like, it is no big deal.
• 1:14:59
  You're right.
• 1:15:00
  Find that person.
• 1:15:01
  Right.
• 1:15:01
  They can't be- 'cause there are folks out there who are a desperate-
• 1:15:04
  Yeah … and will with anybody.
• 1:15:07
  Yeah, you're right.
• 1:15:11
  He could've gotten on Craigslist.
• 1:15:11
  Look for those people.
• 1:15:13
  I don't, this is not related- Craigslist
• 1:15:14
  to a dumb decision, but when Greg got it, and then it showed that,
• 1:15:19
  um, that clip of him at, like, the cafeteria with that girl, and you,
• 1:15:24
  like, assumed he was, like, putting the moves on her so he could- Oh, yeah.
• 1:15:28
  He was close talking to her with a mouth full of burger.
• 1:15:33
  Mm. Like, just chomping on a burger and he was- Being too casual
• 1:15:35
  right in her ear.
• 1:15:36
  I'm like, "You're, that is not, that's not hot. Get out." That's
• 1:15:41
  not, you're not, you're not getting what you want like that.
• 1:15:44
  Hey, speaking, speaking of Greg- Yeah … I told you this, but-
• 1:15:47
  Mm-hmm … did you watch, is it, what is it called, Woman of the Hour?
• 1:15:50
  Yes, with Anna Kendrick.
• 1:15:51
  Oh, yeah.
• 1:15:52
  I did actually.
• 1:15:52
  He was the, uh- The guy … dating sh- dating game.
• 1:15:55
  What do they call it?
• 1:15:56
  Dating game killer?
• 1:15:57
  Yep.
• 1:15:57
  Something like that.
• 1:15:58
  Dating show.
• 1:15:59
  Dating show killer.
• 1:15:59
  Was he really?
• 1:16:00
  Yeah.
• 1:16:00
  That was the same actor.
• 1:16:02
  He was in that movie.
• 1:16:04
  Was he the main guy?
• 1:16:05
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:16:05
  He was the evil guy?
• 1:16:06
  Yep.
• 1:16:06
  And so, like, after he said it, I could see it.
• 1:16:09
  Oh.
• 1:16:09
  And I was like, oh, yeah, he was getting s- Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 1:16:12
  Yeah.
• 1:16:12
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:13
  Anyway, just found that.
• 1:16:14
  That movie was good.
• 1:16:15
  That was a good movie.
• 1:16:15
  Yeah, really enjoyed that one.
• 1:16:16
  That story is insane.
• 1:16:18
  Anna Kendrick did a great job.
• 1:16:19
  Yeah.
• 1:16:19
  Yeah.
• 1:16:20
  The anxiety I got watching that when she's, like, walking through the
• 1:16:22
  parking lot after she, like- Yes
• 1:16:23
  says, like, "I'm not going anywhere with you," and he's like, "I'm
• 1:16:25
  gonna bash your freaking head in." Oh my gosh, that's- Tense … yeah.
• 1:16:29
  Um, no, what I thought you were gonna say was that Hugh was
• 1:16:33
  the bully in the Fred movies.
• 1:16:36
  Did you ever watch Fred?
• 1:16:37
  You probably didn't.
• 1:16:38
  I never watched the Fred movies.
• 1:16:38
  Fred, like the annoying little guy on- Yeah
• 1:16:40
  YouTube Fred.
• 1:16:41
  Yes.
• 1:16:41
  I never watched those movies.
• 1:16:42
  I'm gonna be honest with you, I've, I've never even heard of it.
• 1:16:44
  Oh, you're not- Oh, you would hate it … you're not your niche … it's
• 1:16:45
  not your kind of humor at all.
• 1:16:47
  It is kind of funny, though.
• 1:16:48
  I mean, I thought it was funny at the time.
• 1:16:50
  Anyway so would you survive?
• 1:16:54
  I think I definitely would.
• 1:16:56
  I was a prude.
• 1:16:57
  Yeah.
• 1:16:58
  Yeah.
• 1:16:58
  So I think there are two ways to approach this.
• 1:17:01
  Okay.
• 1:17:01
  One, I think we can all safely say that, yes, we would survive.
• 1:17:07
  Yeah.
• 1:17:07
  Right.
• 1:17:07
  It's just not a position we would be in- … by nature of the way we live our lives.
• 1:17:12
  But if we flip the coin and we say, okay, parallel universe- Mm-hmm
• 1:17:19
  let's say that we did get caught in this predicament- … and this entity
• 1:17:22
  is after you, would you survive?
• 1:17:25
  And what would you do to try and deal with it?
• 1:17:28
  I would not survive.
• 1:17:28
  So at that point, I think you have to… Uh, I don't know if I could,
• 1:17:35
  but you have to consider of like, okay, the same… We talk about these
• 1:17:39
  people like they're terrible, right?
• 1:17:40
  People who have some sort of communicable disease, and they purposefully give
• 1:17:45
  it to other people 'cause they're mad that they have it, right?
• 1:17:47
  It's kind of like that when… 'Cause I was terrified of going to the movies.
• 1:17:52
  I don't know if y'all heard this.
• 1:17:53
  Like, I was so scared of going to the movies as a kid or, like, young
• 1:17:58
  teen because I heard of people who had HIV putting needles in the movie
• 1:18:05
  seats, contaminated with their blood-
• 1:18:09
  knowing that they had it so they would give it to other people.
• 1:18:12
  No, I've never- And you're like, gosh, that takes a special kind of evil.
• 1:18:14
  You don't even know this person, and you're just, like, trying to
• 1:18:16
  pass it on 'cause you're, you're angry and upset 'cause you have it.
• 1:18:20
  And so I've always, like, thought of those people, like,
• 1:18:23
  what a monster you have to be.
• 1:18:25
  But- I think that's a myth though, right?
• 1:18:26
  … in that situation… I don't know.
• 1:18:28
  Yeah, I think that's a myth.
• 1:18:29
  I don't know if it's an urban legend or if it's true.
• 1:18:30
  Yeah, it's urban.
• 1:18:31
  It's, I'm pretty sure it's an urban… I'll, I'll check later, but I'm
• 1:18:33
  pretty sure it's an urban legend.
• 1:18:34
  But I used to feel around every movie theater seat- Mm
• 1:18:39
  very carefully before I sat down.
• 1:18:40
  Mm. Um, and so in that situation, it's not like passing it on cures you.
• 1:18:48
  You know, in this one- Right, right … at least you get some kind of relief if
• 1:18:51
  you pa- It's not like, oh, I'm cured of insert STD here once I give it to you.
• 1:18:58
  It's, that's not how it works.
• 1:19:00
  That's not how science goes.
• 1:19:01
  But, like, in this situation, you would have to just become okay
• 1:19:04
  with I've doomed somebody else.
• 1:19:08
  Yeah, someone else is gonna die.
• 1:19:09
  Yeah.
• 1:19:10
  I have a hard time killing, like, an ant.
• 1:19:12
  So I don't think I'd… Yeah, I'd be, I'd be cooked.
• 1:19:16
  Yeah, I think, and especially after coming to the realization that this thing
• 1:19:20
  can actually think- because at first my plan to deal with it was to walk it
• 1:19:26
  into a jail cell and then lock it up.
• 1:19:28
  Oh, that's really smart.
• 1:19:30
  But- You are s- your mind is insane.
• 1:19:33
  But here's the thing, though.
• 1:19:34
  They tried to get it to go into the pool and it wouldn't, and so now I'm
• 1:19:37
  thinking- Yeah … it would probably see the- It's like a problem solve
• 1:19:39
  the jail cell and be like, "Nah, I'm not going in there. I know what you're
• 1:19:42
  trying to do." Mm. And so on that note, I would say no, it wouldn't survive.
• 1:19:47
  I think- 'Cause you could not smart it … I think I could, I think I could
• 1:19:50
  buy time, but you'd always be on the run.
• 1:19:52
  I think you would have to, you'd have to meticulously ma- map out, like,
• 1:19:55
  okay, well, how long does it take to walk from, say, California to New York?
• 1:19:59
  And then just- Yeah … go back and forth between the two
• 1:20:01
  places, but then how do you live?
• 1:20:03
  You could drive.
• 1:20:04
  You could drive, but then- You could drive away from it … but then also, you
• 1:20:07
  know, you have to have a… Yeah, you'd pretty much have to live in your car.
• 1:20:09
  Yeah.
• 1:20:10
  'Cause you can… You know, unless you had- Well, clearly you can sleep- Money
• 1:20:13
  on top of it and you're fine.
• 1:20:14
  Yeah.
• 1:20:15
  Well, if you drive far enough away, yeah.
• 1:20:16
  If you drive far enough that it can't get you and that, that- She was, like,
• 1:20:18
  a couple blocks away in the forest and just woke up the next morning
• 1:20:23
  like it was a regular degular day.
• 1:20:25
  Well, he was living in the city- Mm-hmm … like, that she was in.
• 1:20:28
  It was, like- Yeah … taking his time to date this, to date her.
• 1:20:32
  Yeah, so I don't, I don't know.
• 1:20:33
  I think, I think I would… The reason I put that I would
• 1:20:35
  not survive is I think I would eventually just get tired of running.
• 1:20:38
  Yeah.
• 1:20:39
  Yeah.
• 1:20:39
  And then- No … you know, 'cause if there, if there truly is no way
• 1:20:42
  to either trap it or kill it or do anything and you're just always on
• 1:20:47
  the run, then it's just like, oh.
• 1:20:49
  'Cause you wouldn't pass it along?
• 1:20:50
  No.
• 1:20:52
  I wonder if eventually it would, like, die out.
• 1:20:55
  Like, if it- Oh, if enough people- … tracked- Well, yeah, 'cause you don't
• 1:20:59
  know how far back it goes, though.
• 1:21:00
  Yeah.
• 1:21:00
  That's the thing we don't know.
• 1:21:00
  Like, it could be- Those people could already have died … thousands of people.
• 1:21:03
  Well, yeah.
• 1:21:03
  Yeah.
• 1:21:03
  Yeah.
• 1:21:04
  'Cause if everybody who's alive, it gets them.
• 1:21:07
  What happens then?
• 1:21:08
  You'd have to have a lot of people agree to just take one for the team.
• 1:21:15
  To figure that out.
• 1:21:16
  Yikes.
• 1:21:18
  Hmm.
• 1:21:18
  That's an interesting way to think about it, Mark.
• 1:21:22
  So one way I would survive, and then the other way, no, I wouldn't- Why?
• 1:21:24
  'cause I wouldn't be able to pass it on.
• 1:21:26
  I think I'd feel too guilty for my whole life.
• 1:21:28
  Well, no, what's- you'd still see it.
• 1:21:30
  Yeah, and the anxiety of like never being able to fully rest because it's not like
• 1:21:34
  you're gonna keep up with those people.
• 1:21:36
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:21:37
  You know?
• 1:21:37
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:21:37
  Like, you're gonna wanna try to like get awa- like, as far away as possible.
• 1:21:40
  Yeah.
• 1:21:41
  And maybe that's why people give it to people in their town, 'cause I'm thinking
• 1:21:44
  also, what if you fly to… Like say, what if you have it and you just go to Vegas
• 1:21:50
  or somewhere where people are just out and about all the time, and you just, boop,
• 1:21:54
  pass it on, and then try and get them to pass it, and then you go back home.
• 1:21:58
  It's far away from you.
• 1:21:59
  Like, all we ever saw was people who were, like geographically close.
• 1:22:03
  So it's physically nearby and you see it following other people,
• 1:22:08
  but it- are you the only ones?
• 1:22:10
  Are there multiple versions of this in different cities?
• 1:22:12
  Oh.
• 1:22:12
  Or is it the only one?
• 1:22:14
  Yeah.
• 1:22:15
  Maybe we'll get that answer in They Follow.
• 1:22:17
  Maybe we will.
• 1:22:18
  Okay, so, a fun segment.
• 1:22:22
  Monster Smash or Pass.
• 1:22:23
  And as we've been talking about this, I actually had
• 1:22:26
  another one that came to mind.
• 1:22:27
  Okay.
• 1:22:27
  So, you know, I always try to do, like, a little bit of both.
• 1:22:33
  So if you were to smash, you might get super fit being in this relationship
• 1:22:39
  from the constant running away
• 1:22:44
  But- I'm a stress eater though, so I mean- Well, all, I mean, it would be
• 1:22:49
  like I would run- You can eat, run
• 1:22:50
  run three miles- Yeah … and then eat a Big Mac to calm myself down maybe.
• 1:22:54
  I don't know.
• 1:22:54
  Oh, yeah.
• 1:22:55
  But the problem is if you opt for smash, if it gets close to you, it kills you.
• 1:23:03
  If it gets within- Oh … reach of you.
• 1:23:05
  Yeah, that's true.
• 1:23:06
  So the, the- There is- … smashing is the problem.
• 1:23:08
  Yeah.
• 1:23:08
  That is true.
• 1:23:08
  So there really is no smash for this.
• 1:23:10
  I think you, it's pass or- It's alwa- it's just pass.
• 1:23:12
  Die.
• 1:23:13
  Yeah.
• 1:23:14
  Huh.
• 1:23:14
  Pass or die.
• 1:23:15
  The thought that I also had was, like, you would rack up some serious travel points.
• 1:23:19
  You would.
• 1:23:20
  Oh, yeah.
• 1:23:21
  Or a lot of miles on your car.
• 1:23:23
  Yeah.
• 1:23:23
  Which is- No, that's, that's a great point … also bad.
• 1:23:26
  Flying and getting extra points.
• 1:23:28
  Yeah.
• 1:23:28
  You would get so many points.
• 1:23:29
  So many points.
• 1:23:30
  Eventually you could- You would probably- … go first class.
• 1:23:32
  Yeah.
• 1:23:32
  Probably, yeah.
• 1:23:33
  And I mean, like, you know, you could fly from, like, California to
• 1:23:36
  New York City probably by yourself.
• 1:23:39
  Double points too.
• 1:23:39
  Double, double points.
• 1:23:40
  I would, I would pa- go ahead and pay the extra few bucks for double points.
• 1:23:42
  Yeah.
• 1:23:43
  Rack 'em up.
• 1:23:44
  And then just back and forth, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing.
• 1:23:46
  Yeah.
• 1:23:47
  It's not like it could, I mean, unless it can, like you said- However-
• 1:23:49
  … teleport onto the airplane, then- If it gets on the plane, then you're
• 1:23:52
  in trouble … then you're screwed.
• 1:23:53
  Yeah.
• 1:23:53
  Oh, yeah, you're in a lot of trouble then.
• 1:23:54
  Oh, my god.
• 1:23:55
  That would not- You're, you're gonna join the Mile High club
• 1:23:56
  could you imagine?
• 1:23:57
  Been to where- Could you imagine?
• 1:23:57
  In a way.
• 1:23:58
  You're just trying, you're with your family, you're
• 1:24:00
  trying to fly to Hawaii, right?
• 1:24:02
  With your kids, and all of a sudden- And that scene where, yeah, and
• 1:24:07
  what happens to Greg happens to somebody in, seat, A- … three.
• 1:24:11
  Like, what?
• 1:24:11
  And then what happens, like, when they're dead, like, does,
• 1:24:14
  you'd, don't see the entity- Right
• 1:24:16
  but then it just poof.
• 1:24:18
  Oh, I guess that's true.
• 1:24:18
  And then you would, like- You wouldn't see what happened … am I next?
• 1:24:21
  What's gonna happen to me?
• 1:24:23
  And then your kids have seen that, and you're just trying to go to Hawaii.
• 1:24:27
  Terrible.
• 1:24:28
  Wow.
• 1:24:29
  Yeah, that would ruin the vacation- That would ru- … for sure.
• 1:24:32
  Yeah, you come back just, like, you're just like…
• 1:24:36
  But you would probably just think somebody, like, had a
• 1:24:39
  medical event on the plane.
• 1:24:42
  Contortionist went wrong.
• 1:24:43
  Well, yeah, if it gets, like, that little girl at the beginning and
• 1:24:46
  their leg just, like, pops off in the wrong direction, that'd be bad.
• 1:24:49
  But Greg- Oh, he never- … he probably just looked like he had a seizure.
• 1:24:54
  I thought it, like, also mutilated him.
• 1:24:56
  Did it?
• 1:24:56
  Yeah, let's see if we can find that.
• 1:24:57
  I was quite distracted by the other things that were happening-
• 1:24:59
  Yeah … so it definitely could have.
• 1:25:01
  Yeah, let's see if I can quickly find it
• 1:25:04
  Can I please?
• 1:25:11
  You know what happened?
• 1:25:14
  Yeah?
• 1:25:14
  I don't even- I'm not gonna help you find it … I was so thrown off by what
• 1:25:24
  Is this your notes, your, your- No.
• 1:25:27
  You know how we're saying that the, they're always listening, right?
• 1:25:33
  That's a thing that people say.
• 1:25:34
  You know, like the- Oh … the, uh, the devices are always listening.
• 1:25:37
  They do.
• 1:25:38
  So I have, um, Google pulled up, and I have the whole time we've been
• 1:25:44
  talking- Yeah … just in case I need to look up something real quickly.
• 1:25:48
  So I was gonna look up, I type in, started to type in, "Did Greg get
• 1:25:51
  mutilated in It Follows?" I got to, "Did Greg get," and please tell me why the
• 1:25:57
  first search choice, like auto-complete, is, "Did Greg get the cheese touch?"
• 1:26:04
  I'm not lying to you
• 1:26:06
  That, I wonder if Greg is a character in the Diary of a Wimpy Kid
• 1:26:12
  Okay.
• 1:26:12
  That would make so much- That, okay … sense That would make, that would make me
• 1:26:15
  feel a lot better I would've freaked out.
• 1:26:17
  That's crazy.
• 1:26:20
  Yes, Greg Heffley is- Oh, okay … the main character and narrator of The
• 1:26:24
  Diary of a- Okay … Wimpy Kid.
• 1:26:25
  Okay.
• 1:26:26
  Okay.
• 1:26:26
  'Cause I als- I would've crapped my pants- … right here.
• 1:26:32
  Yeah, I was about let's shut it all, turn it all off.
• 1:26:34
  Yeah, it's done.
• 1:26:35
  We're done.
• 1:26:35
  It's done.
• 1:26:35
  The podcast is over.
• 1:26:37
  Slender Man is real.
• 1:26:39
  Okay.
• 1:26:41
  Wowee.
• 1:26:41
  He got that cheese touch.
• 1:26:43
  That is, that was freaky.
• 1:26:45
  The coincidence though is insane.
• 1:26:46
  Yeah, for real.
• 1:26:48
  Okay, well- Synchronicities Well, that mystery is solved, well, I think what's
• 1:26:51
  also been solved is that the director and writer, whoever it was, definitely
• 1:26:56
  watched Dia- Diary of a Wimpy Kid.
• 1:26:57
  Oh, yeah, I think they're a big fan probably.
• 1:26:59
  That's where he got the idea.
• 1:27:00
  'Cause cheese touch, it's definitely similar.
• 1:27:03
  Was- His name is Greg His name is Greg.
• 1:27:05
  Yeah.
• 1:27:05
  It's, that's enough for me.
• 1:27:07
  I'm Old Gregg.
• 1:27:11
  Didn't you say you had to like explain like who that was to
• 1:27:13
  somebody at work the other day?
• 1:27:14
  Yes, my coworker, firstly, my Gen X coworker had never seen it.
• 1:27:18
  Which that doesn't surprise me.
• 1:27:20
  My Gen, what, what's the one under us?
• 1:27:24
  Z?
• 1:27:24
  Z?
• 1:27:25
  I don't even know.
• 1:27:27
  Or she might be like a young, young millennial, like maybe the, the back
• 1:27:31
  end of millennial dates, but like she had never seen it either, and she was
• 1:27:38
  like, "Beth, what the heck is that?"
• 1:27:42
  And, um, she said, "Oh, yeah, I should've figured it," I think
• 1:27:45
  she called it a millennial thing.
• 1:27:46
  She said, "I should've figured it would be a millennial thing." That's rude.
• 1:27:50
  And I was like- That's rude … "Wow." Is that how it feels when people
• 1:27:54
  like when like how boomers feel when we're like, "Okay, boomer"?
• 1:27:58
  Maybe.
• 1:27:58
  Do you ever say that?
• 1:27:59
  Yeah, I have before.
• 1:28:00
  I said that the other day walking outside of work, and I instantly
• 1:28:04
  regretted it because there definitely was someone who would've definitely
• 1:28:07
  been a boomer like walking in front of me- … and I was like, "I'm so
• 1:28:11
  sorry." Well, I usually have said it, Mark is kind of a papaw sometimes.
• 1:28:15
  I thought you were about to say, "Well, Mark's a boomer." No,
• 1:28:17
  but he acts like one sometimes.
• 1:28:18
  Some- well, sometimes I act like a boomer, yes.
• 1:28:19
  And so like- For sure … if there's somebody who's clearly not a boomer, but
• 1:28:22
  they're acting- … like super stodgy or whatever, I'm like, "Okay, boomer,"
• 1:28:27
  or like they'll say something that's they have no knowledge of technology
• 1:28:31
  or whatever, but like I've only said it like maybe twice, but I don't know
• 1:28:35
  why people react to it like you really just cut somebody deep, like, "Ooh."
• 1:28:41
  Like, what?
• 1:28:41
  That's not even that big a deal.
• 1:28:44
  Like you could say that to me if I did something old lady like.
• 1:28:47
  I have mamaw tendencies.
• 1:28:49
  Yeah.
• 1:28:50
  And I wouldn't get like super- Would you be like, "You're right"?
• 1:28:53
  … upset.
• 1:28:53
  I'd be like, "Yeah, absolutely. Give me my crochet." Absolutely.
• 1:28:58
  Breaking my hip.
• 1:28:59
  Listen, I wouldn't put it past myself.
• 1:29:03
  I'm a clumsy girl.
• 1:29:04
  Oh, man.
• 1:29:05
  I love it.
• 1:29:06
  Okay.
• 1:29:07
  All right, so does it join the club?
• 1:29:11
  Yeah, I could- I- … I could do without it … hated this movie.
• 1:29:14
  I did not get the hype.
• 1:29:16
  Yeah, I'm, I'm gonna have to say no as well which- Wow,
• 1:29:19
  this has not happened yet.
• 1:29:21
  It's the first.
• 1:29:21
  I mean, it's, it's our fifth episode- Yeah, it is … but like-
• 1:29:23
  It's the first, it's the first one that we've, we've all dec- Yeah
• 1:29:25
  unanimously decided- No … I mean, we've all, we've all agreed on all
• 1:29:28
  of them so far that they do belong.
• 1:29:30
  Not particularly, no.
• 1:29:31
  We did not all agree on Alien.
• 1:29:32
  Beth was the outlier.
• 1:29:33
  Oh, I thought we won her, won her over.
• 1:29:34
  You won me over.
• 1:29:35
  I agreed that it was a classic and how somebody would want it on the- Yeah.
• 1:29:39
  Okay.
• 1:29:40
  Yeah.
• 1:29:40
  All right.
• 1:29:40
  All r- I'll give you that.
• 1:29:41
  All right.
• 1:29:42
  Yeah, this one I feel like there is a lot of potential.
• 1:29:44
  I will say this, if they can pull an Insidious II on this, on the sequel,
• 1:29:51
  perhaps they could win me over.
• 1:29:53
  But I don't know.
• 1:29:54
  We'll see.
• 1:29:54
  Pull an Insidious II.
• 1:29:56
  That one scene definitely, that one scene definitely takes a
• 1:29:58
  lot away from me, so- For sure
• 1:30:01
  you know, I, I don't know if I'll ever be able to come to grips with that, but- Yeah
• 1:30:05
  … no, so Insidious II, like, if you take Insi- I've… You've seen those, right?
• 1:30:08
  Uh, it's been a long time.
• 1:30:10
  Oh.
• 1:30:11
  So- They're so good … yeah, and so- I think those are on the list … Insidious
• 1:30:13
  I was really good, but then when in s- in my opinion, when Insidious
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  II came out and it was, like, kinda weaving in and out of the scenes
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  from- Oh, I see what you're saying
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  Insidious I, and made Insidious I even better- Oh … because then
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  you could see this other side of what was going on during that time.
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  Yeah.
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  So I was just thinking, with this movie, you know, maybe if they explain the
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  people that they saw, for example, in this one, if they made that make sense.
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  Yeah.
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  Maybe if there was something to that, maybe that would be something.
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  I doubt they will.
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  Mm. I'm not… My hopes are not high on this one.
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  Yeah.
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  But that would be the one, the one thing they could do is try to make
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  sense of a lot of what happened, so.
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  Yeah.
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  I guess we'll find out.
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  Yeah.
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  All right.
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  This was a fun episode.
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  Oh, I did wanna add, this currently sits at number 31 on Rotten
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  Tomatoes top 200 best horror movies.
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  Yeah, it had a good score.
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  Like nine, like 90s.
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  Yeah.
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  But so did, um… We watched something not long ago that had a really good score And
• 1:31:14
  I don't think it was for the podcasting.
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  It was just personal stuff, and it was, like, in the '90s, and
• 1:31:18
  I was like- … who rated this?
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  One person, and they enjoyed it?
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  I don't know, 'cause I can't imagine a lot of people were giving it good reviews.
• 1:31:26
  Yeah.
• 1:31:26
  I can almost see it and I actually did not finish it.
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  You finished it.
• 1:31:30
  Oh, yeah.
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  'Cause I was like- That's right … this is so bad, and
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  I went and did something else.
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  Yeah, I can't remember what it was, but I'm- Yeah, it was bad … I've
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  gotten to where I don't trust the Rotten Tomatoes scores.
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  Yeah.
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  At all.
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  Um, anyway, all right, so last part, we will do the spinny wheel of death to
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  figure out what we are watching next time, and this one landed on, oh, Session 9,
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  question mark?
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  Okay.
• 1:31:58
  I have, I have- Why do I feel like I know that movie?
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  … I've seen that one before.
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  Why do I feel like it's, like, a found tapes?
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  I don't know.
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  It does sound like maybe… What's, there's, like, a- There's a Case 39.
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  Okay.
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  A Case something movie.
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  Maybe that's it, I'm thinking.
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  But I don't know.
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  All right, well- We'll see
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  I think it came out in, like, 2001.
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  Okay.
• 1:32:20
  Ooh.
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  So we'll have to see, like, where it can be streamed.
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  But we'll put that on our social medias if we find it- Yes,
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  yes … where you can watch it.
• 1:32:28
  Yes.
• 1:32:29
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