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NFL Week 7 TNF Showdown | Broncos @ Saints | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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Speaker 1: Ball system's going clear the lift. What's up everyone? Tyler
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Speaker 1: Tamberline here aka Totagg and Tambou back for another edition
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Speaker 1: of the Thursday night Football Showdown Show here on the
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Speaker 1: on the way in. Got my guy, Hoop, got my guy?
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Speaker 1: Title here with me is always going to break down
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Speaker 1: what our guy Kenny shout up to Kenny huge week
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Speaker 1: last week is touting as the slate of the sentry.
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Speaker 1: We got Lil Jordan Humphrey, we got bub means business
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Speaker 1: as people were talking. We've got lots of good dudes
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Speaker 1: to talk about on the slate and gonna break it
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Speaker 1: all down as usual, captains ownership, roster construction, position by position,
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Speaker 1: and we'll end it with some fan duel. Hoop bring
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Speaker 1: you in first. Back to before I bring in, I'm
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Speaker 1: bringing in our guy Tweezy getting in here at ten
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Speaker 1: forty in the morning his time. So shout at Tweezy,
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Speaker 1: what's going on, Hoopster, how you doing my friend?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? I love that, love our guy Tweezy. Yeah, I
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Speaker 2: do them all. I mean in terms of this game first,
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Speaker 2: like a you know, shit show game slate, I mean
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Speaker 2: they've been pretty good. Like even even the crappy games
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Speaker 2: there's been you know, it's they've been solid. This is
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Speaker 2: the first one you look at and literally like throw
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Speaker 2: up in your mouth. I know that people are going
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Speaker 2: to be in here. Oh I love this game. I'm
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Speaker 2: so pumpedful. Sure that's fine, like if that's your thing, cool,
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Speaker 2: But for me, it's like, man, this is this is nasty,
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Speaker 2: this is ugly, and it's honestly a slate where anything
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Speaker 2: could happen, like the defense captain stuff, the kicker captain stuff.
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised massive amount of money left on
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Speaker 2: the table, backup quarterbacks or sort of game like, I
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Speaker 2: could see anything happening to my But we'll do what
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Speaker 2: we do. We'll talk through it. And every time I
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Speaker 2: have this feeling though, and then we start talking through it,
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Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, I start to feel a little
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Speaker 2: more confident, a little bit better about the slight. So
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Speaker 2: I am excited to go in talk through it and
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Speaker 2: maybe at the end of the show have a little
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Speaker 2: bit of a different demeanor potentially.
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Speaker 1: Well see how that goes. I'd like for that to
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Speaker 1: happen too. It's not that I'm against the slate, and
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Speaker 1: when you have an ugly one like this, it can
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Speaker 1: actually be really good for Showdown. And again I always
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Speaker 1: tell you at the top of the show, I think
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Speaker 1: it's a great showdown slate because we can get a
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Speaker 1: unique up top. There's tons of different things that you
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Speaker 1: can do to get different. I'll talk later when we
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Speaker 1: get to the captains. Sort of like what we had
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Speaker 1: the other night, maybe a way we could handle it.
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Speaker 1: So lots to talk about. Shut up to our guy, Hebrew,
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Speaker 1: big dog NHL. I'm rocking NHL. Hats now Hebrew just
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Speaker 1: for you, buddy, just because the one hundred k win
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Speaker 1: he pops in NHL has been on fire. Though over
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Speaker 1: at the Nation and every sport that comes around, they
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Speaker 1: just doubt it a little bit. Ah, these guys know
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Speaker 1: what they're talking about. Needs just absolutely crushing the content.
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Speaker 1: The matchup sheet, the stone we brought out for the season,
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Speaker 1: the discord popping off left and right. It's a football
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Speaker 1: show title. Bring we're gonna talk some football man. What's
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Speaker 1: your first thoughts?
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Speaker 3: How you doing first thoughts of the same as years.
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Speaker 3: I'm doing well.
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Speaker 4: First thoughts is great showdown game because salary doesn't mean anything.
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Speaker 4: You have the most random players of all time, playing
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Speaker 4: a billion injuries. Like offensive side, obviously everyone knows what
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Speaker 4: the Saints, no Pats or Tan on the Broncos side,
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Speaker 4: they're beat up a little bit on defense. But Captain
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Speaker 4: like just getting quick into it. Kamara, he could be
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Speaker 4: thirty five percent of today I haven't projected for over
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Speaker 4: four points higher than the next guy, which is bow Knicks,
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Speaker 4: and bow Knicks is gonna get a good amount of ownership,
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Speaker 4: maybe fifteen percent in the Captain, So pretty much anyone
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Speaker 4: outside of those two gets you pretty different. But then
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Speaker 4: you throw it back kind of what we said about
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Speaker 4: Josh allenslay. You can play one hundred and fifty Kamara
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Speaker 4: teams and still get way different, get unique in plenty
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Speaker 4: of those teams because of the plethora of options at
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Speaker 4: the receiving side on both of these teams with so
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Speaker 4: many injuries and salary's pretty much irrelevant. So you build
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Speaker 4: a team and newly five k on the table. That
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Speaker 4: is totally totally fine, honestly, like this, Shout out Real
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Speaker 4: for the massive hit. Shoutout Kenny for the massive hit.
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Speaker 4: My guy Johnny hefted as well. He also shipped the
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Speaker 4: three dollars last Showdown as well for thirty three hundreds.
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Speaker 3: So shout out to you, John.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, congrats to all those you know, winning tons out there.
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Speaker 1: Love to see that this. Like I said, two hoop,
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Speaker 1: we can go back to you, but the the ability
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Speaker 1: just to play a Showdown slate and then move on
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Speaker 1: with your night if you need to get those Brownie
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Speaker 1: points whatever it might be, anything you want to you
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Speaker 1: can also do that if you don't want to watch it.
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Speaker 1: To me, the big thing is like, even if this
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Speaker 1: game was thirty one to twenty seven and it turns
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Speaker 1: out to be phenomenal, I'll have it in the background.
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Speaker 1: Who am I kidding? But just to say it, it
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Speaker 1: wouldn't kill me. It's like two teams that I don't
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Speaker 1: care as much about, but I love it for Showdown.
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Speaker 1: Do you have any other thoughts? Before we hop into
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Speaker 1: the Captain spot.
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Speaker 2: Started looking through some of these price tags and it
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Speaker 2: gets even worse, Like I mean Courtland, Sutton and pricing. Okay,
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Speaker 2: I should preface this by saying, like, you guys both
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Speaker 2: know like pricing doesn't matter, like the salaries don't matter
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Speaker 2: on this slate whatsoever, but like they do kind of
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Speaker 2: they do a little bit like Courtland Sutton at ten
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Speaker 2: to eight, like that is beyond gross. Juwan Johnson sixty
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Speaker 2: eight hundred for Juwan Johnson, man, you start looking through
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Speaker 2: this stuff and it gets gross. But again, people don't
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Speaker 2: like building gross DFS lineups. So maybe that's where we
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Speaker 2: kind of find our advantage tonight is like just embracing
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Speaker 2: the grossness and we'll see whom we break it all down.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, like the main thing, for sure, you look
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Speaker 2: at Captain and you know a lot of people are
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Speaker 2: obviously gonna go Kamara. They're gonna anticipate a lot of
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Speaker 2: dump offs. They have no other pass catches going a lot.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take one more step back. Think about week
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Speaker 2: two of the NFL season. Right, it was after Week
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Speaker 2: two and everyone is saying the Saints offense best offense
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Speaker 2: in the NFL. Right, I mean they were going off
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Speaker 2: week one, Week two most efficient offense. And look where
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Speaker 2: we are at now, and I know injuries are part
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Speaker 2: of it. It is a shame with a lot of
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Speaker 2: this stuff. Like we've been talking the Shaheed stuff all season,
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Speaker 2: like on the main sites. Whatever they's done, like he
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Speaker 2: was like their guy, He's potentially going to the I
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Speaker 2: R I don't know if they officially put him on
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Speaker 2: the injured reserve, but man like, I really feel for
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Speaker 2: a guy like him, So I'm kind of all over
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Speaker 2: the place. I'm going to bring it all back to
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Speaker 2: the captain conversation. We know Kamara, it's going to be
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Speaker 2: very popular up there. It's going to be very I mean,
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Speaker 2: the reason he's so popular is because it's going to
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Speaker 2: be so easy to play him up there. He's eleven
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Speaker 2: eight and he's seventeen to seven in the Captain. We
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Speaker 2: have so many cheap options tonight. You just go and
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Speaker 2: I do have I did do a dry run, so
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Speaker 2: we can bring that up at any point. Like, it's
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Speaker 2: just going to be easy to get an ass in
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Speaker 2: there because of all the cheap guys that it will
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Speaker 2: play him with. Rattler is obviously going to get some
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Speaker 2: ownership up there. You know, showed a little bit of
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Speaker 2: running upside, but bo next is definitely the number two. Again,
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Speaker 2: easy to fit him in the salary, doesn't matter. He's
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Speaker 2: ninety four hundred in the Captain, he's fourteen to one,
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Speaker 2: and then after that it should kind of get spread
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Speaker 2: out a little bit. Like the thing is that you're
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Speaker 2: just going into an optimizer and run it. You're going
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Speaker 2: to get some Courtland up there. You're gonna get some
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Speaker 2: Javonte Williams up there to me. For me personally, I
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Speaker 2: haven't built teams yet. It's either gonna end up being
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Speaker 2: a very consolidated captain pool where I'm only maybe playing
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Speaker 2: like three potentially four, or I think I might go
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Speaker 2: the other route where I just play a shit ton
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Speaker 2: of them. So I haven't fully decided what I'm gonna do. Obviously,
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Speaker 2: all my content will be updated usually pretty shortly after
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Speaker 2: we get off the air here over at ship in
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Speaker 2: nation dot com. But man, you could see a lot
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Speaker 2: of things. Like I said, I wouldn't be surprised if
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Speaker 2: if we get our first like defense that you absolutely
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Speaker 2: need on the slate Captain Kicker, like anything random could
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Speaker 2: happen today. So I'm going one of two paths tonight,
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Speaker 2: and I'm not one hundred percent sure which way I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna go, but I know it's gonna be tomorrow. It's
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Speaker 2: gonna be Nicks and then probably Rattler, the three that
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Speaker 2: get a large large majority of the ownership, and Kamara
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Speaker 2: is probably gonna tear of his own tier, of his
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Speaker 2: own is probably him, and then a big gap and
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Speaker 2: then it's bo Nicks, then a little gap down to
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Speaker 2: a rattler.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Kamara's gonna just keep going up in ownership as
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Speaker 1: the slate goes, as we get closer and closer to
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Speaker 1: the slate, just because the spot everything's gonna jam him in.
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Speaker 1: You can play him anyway, even if you capped at
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Speaker 1: forty nine k tonight to try and get different that way.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm fine with that, and you could do that,
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Speaker 1: and you would still end up with a bunch of
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Speaker 1: Kamara because there's just so many cheap plays. He also
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Speaker 1: the other thing title I'll kick it to you, but
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Speaker 1: like the Sutton thing, way overpriced, not gonna put people
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Speaker 1: off of them. He still could be forty fifty percent
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Speaker 1: in the flex just because you can easily afford him.
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Speaker 1: There's nobody else to really go to. His role to
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Speaker 1: me though, it's very secure, but it's also it's a
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Speaker 1: one game slate, like those other guys could just eat
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Speaker 1: them up. They might only throw one touchdown the whole
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Speaker 1: game or something, and then that could be to one
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Speaker 1: of the other dudes and then you don't need something.
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Speaker 1: Then that just leaves thousands on the table. So I'll
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Speaker 1: let you talk through captains. Obviously he makes sense up there,
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Speaker 1: but just give me your thoughts at captain then we'll
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Speaker 1: move on.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going with hoops, I think he said at first,
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Speaker 4: the condensed captain pool. That's where I'm leading today, because yes,
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Speaker 4: I mean you can if you want to overspend for
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Speaker 4: Jawan Johnson, if you want to play a wide receiver
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Speaker 4: one Bob means Sedarick Wilson Bason tipped in Devon Valley, Like,
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Speaker 4: if you want to play those guys, sure they're all
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Speaker 4: gonna be on the field.
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Speaker 3: It's thirty seven total.
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Speaker 4: The lower scoring game, the less you need that captain
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Speaker 4: to really get there.
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Speaker 3: Bub Memes catches one has a game like he got
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Speaker 3: last week.
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Speaker 4: Sure I don't hate, maybe I'll have a little bum means,
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Speaker 4: But what I'm telling myself is, like you said, you
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Speaker 4: can cap yourself at forty nine K even lower, and
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Speaker 4: you will still get a ton of Kamara because all
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Speaker 4: those guys are so so cheap, and I just think
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Speaker 4: Kamar is by far in the best spot. Like the
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Speaker 4: problem with I'm definitely playing Kamara. He has all the
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Speaker 4: pass catching ability. The dump Boss from Rattler, He by
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Speaker 4: far is the highest touchdown prop on the slate minus
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Speaker 4: one ten. I'll get to the next guy, Javonte Williams
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Speaker 4: at plus one fifty. He's gonna be another guy I'm
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Speaker 4: keeping in my pool. McLaughlin eats into him a little bit,
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Speaker 4: but again, are bow Knicks third.
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Speaker 3: The pass attempts was something I found.
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Speaker 4: Really interesting in this one thirty one and a half
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Speaker 4: for bow Knicks, twenty nine and a half for Rattler,
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Speaker 4: which is not good for passing attempts. Both of them
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Speaker 4: are well under two hundred yards for their over underprop passing,
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Speaker 4: but both do have a little rushing upside, which is
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Speaker 4: why I think I'm gonna play both at captain. And
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Speaker 4: there's so many pass catchers you compare them with, which
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Speaker 4: is nice, But twenty one yards for Ratler on the
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Speaker 4: ground twenty six and a half for bow Nicks shows that,
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Speaker 4: especially someone mentioned on the same side, I think this
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Speaker 4: is very true. Bronco's good front seven Saints banged up,
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Speaker 4: Rattler might have to use his legs a little more
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Speaker 4: to escape, So right away, I think it's both quarterbacks.
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Speaker 4: For me, it's Kamara, it's Javonte, and then I will
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Speaker 4: overspend for a something at the captain spots.
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Speaker 3: Ten eight looks absolutely ridiculous.
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Speaker 4: Maybe he comes in eight nine percent by far wide
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Speaker 4: receiver one in this spot. If he goes for one
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Speaker 4: hundred and one, I think that's plenty to get up there.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Bob Means would be the other one.
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Speaker 4: But I think I'm gonna really keep it condensed today.
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Speaker 4: But again, I play like forty to sixty teams, thirty
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Speaker 4: to sixty.
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Speaker 3: I don't play one hundred and fifty. I'd spread it
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Speaker 3: out a little more than more teams I have.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bob Means thing is most interesting. Like people
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Speaker 1: talking about Sir Tan being out. You mentioned off the
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Speaker 1: top as well, but just the statement there is it's
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Speaker 1: one game. We know they came in, he got all
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Speaker 1: of that, and I'm playing him for sure. Let's to
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Speaker 1: say you want someone like him that has ceiling for
11:08
Speaker 1: a slate like this single game all of that, but
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Speaker 1: also like Cedric Wilson right there for eight hundred bucks
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Speaker 1: less at one third of the ownership or something. I'm
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Speaker 1: mixing that in. Any time I can find it, like
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Speaker 1: if if you see it there, nah, you shouldn't. Any
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Speaker 1: time I can find it I'm willing to mix that
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Speaker 1: in anytime I find something like that. So if i
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Speaker 1: have bub Means set up at four K and I'm
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe spending all the set, like majority of
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Speaker 1: the salary or most of it, you can just drop
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Speaker 1: down leave another eight hundred bucks. To me, it's the same.
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Speaker 1: Whatever last game has nothing to do with this game.
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Speaker 1: That's what people need to realize. In DFS, it's we
11:37
Speaker 1: take some of those thoughts, we move them along. It's
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Speaker 1: easy to say it does when it happens. Well, yeah,
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Speaker 1: of course it happened last game. It's bub Means again.
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Speaker 1: If that happens, so be it. But I'm just saying
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Speaker 1: it doesn't. You don't have to force it when it's
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Speaker 1: a one game slate. Same reason the Sutton stuff we
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Speaker 1: talked about, am I am I doing it to sixteen
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Speaker 1: to two up top is crazy. When you can get
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Speaker 1: you know, Kamara for seventeen seven, you can get quarterbacks
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Speaker 1: for way less. But you gonna you're gonna put that
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Speaker 1: in there because he's got He's definitely a leverage spot
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Speaker 1: here across the board. When Nix, Rattler, Kamara, those guys
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Speaker 1: all look to be getting more ownership You're gonna be
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Speaker 1: able to fit him into the middle and play him,
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Speaker 1: so I like that. I'm not sure how much I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna do with the cheap captains, just because, as we
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Speaker 1: always talk about, that'll lead to very popular lineups, like
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Speaker 1: you put a rare captain up top, lower owned, and
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Speaker 1: then you end up on all the four of the
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Speaker 1: same five dudes that everyone's trying to play and a
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Speaker 1: one off. If that ends up winning, it's just gonna
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Speaker 1: be a bigger train than usual, I think. So I'll
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Speaker 1: look into it and i'll have everything up on the
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Speaker 1: site when we get there. But Bo Nicks Spencer Ratler,
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Speaker 1: the Rattler thing is at least leverage to Kamara. He
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Speaker 1: could still go through Kamara. But when you have Kamara Williams,
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Speaker 1: I'll talk more on that. We get the running back,
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Speaker 1: Bob means, Cedric Wilson, Jawan Johnson, Moreau catches touchdowns. Tipton's there.
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Speaker 1: I don't have as much love for him today, but
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Speaker 1: he's there and a guy you could use, so just
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Speaker 1: to say it, Rattler and then you talked about the
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Speaker 1: rushing up side that he could have, so I think
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Speaker 1: he's interesting for the Saint side. Obviously b Nicks. Kamara
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Speaker 1: looked much better on paper hoop anything else to add
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Speaker 1: at the captain spot? If not, you can elaborate on
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Speaker 1: these quarterbacks.
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Speaker 2: The only other thing I think the interesting one is
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Speaker 2: Sutton because I do think he ends up getting ownership
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Speaker 2: because people are gonna realize that they have the salary.
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Speaker 2: If you go in and run teams, you probably just
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Speaker 2: get some because of all the cheap value plays. And
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Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean, I haven't decided what I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna do with him up there because people are gonna
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Speaker 2: like the quarterbacks, people are gonna like Alvin Kamara, and
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Speaker 2: then I just feel like people will default to Sutton
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Speaker 2: as number four. And still it's gonna be substantially lower.
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Speaker 2: So I get the point of playing and it's going
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Speaker 2: to be substantially lower than the quarterbacks and in Kamara,
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Speaker 2: but I think it's like if he gets like ten
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Speaker 2: percent ownership in the captain to me, that's like that's
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Speaker 2: too much and maybe a spot that I just fade.
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Speaker 2: So it's an interesting talking point for sure, but.
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Speaker 1: Nobody's a must play. Like the chemistry doesn't mean anything.
13:56
Speaker 1: We had a lave leave the game. We had other
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Speaker 1: guys in there like, that doesn't mean again, it has
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Speaker 1: nothing to do with this game. This is if you
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Speaker 1: think it. That's and we were also not the show
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Speaker 1: for that, Like I'm not here to tell you the
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Speaker 1: must plays of the night. That's not what this show is, right,
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Speaker 1: We're looking for concepts, theories, process, roster construction, ideas on
14:13
Speaker 1: how you can handle the slate. That guy obviously looks good.
14:16
Speaker 1: That's why he's popular though, Like, he's literally the most
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Speaker 1: popular wide receiver outside of Sutton I think is the
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Speaker 1: only other guy that's gonna get more ownership than him.
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Speaker 1: So that that tells you all you need to know.
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Speaker 1: We're looking for other ways. I like, you know, Landon
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Speaker 1: brought it up, Franklin Devon. I don't even know how
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Speaker 1: you say his name, Belle Vla, whatever the hell's last
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Speaker 1: name is that guy. He has definitely been involved the
14:35
Speaker 1: games that he was in, right, the first game of
14:37
Speaker 1: the season, I think he caught eight for eight. Again,
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Speaker 1: has nothing to do with tonight, but at least he
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Speaker 1: was in the mix before some of this other stuff.
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Speaker 1: And then hoops guy. The chat's been talking about it
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Speaker 1: all day, The little Jordan Humphrey revenge game. Here if
14:47
Speaker 1: you want to go up with that, the the Sean
14:48
Speaker 1: Payton Revenge game Vlay my guy Landing got me Like,
14:52
Speaker 1: those are the types of guys. Lucas Krull, if you
14:54
Speaker 1: know he's in there, you get get in on the
14:55
Speaker 1: action there. There's lots of guys that you could play
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Speaker 1: tight end wide receiver to get different in your flex spots.
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Speaker 1: It just depends on what you want to do up
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Speaker 1: top with the captain. Go ahead, hoop, you got something else?
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Speaker 2: The quarterback's like, not much more to add, like, I mean,
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Speaker 2: it could just very well be a raw points slate
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Speaker 2: and a raw point slate. I just want the guys
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Speaker 2: that are going to have the balls the balls, the
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Speaker 2: ball in their hands the most, and that's Nix and Rattler.
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Speaker 2: Nix will obviously be I mean, Nix is going to
15:20
Speaker 2: be very very highly owned. I mean a quarterback that's
15:22
Speaker 2: been producing team is favored, and then Rattler ninety two
15:27
Speaker 2: a little bit of rushing upside. I mean, I want,
15:29
Speaker 2: you know, as much as of those guys as possible.
15:33
Speaker 2: You know, it's nothing, nothing too crazy to say, to
15:35
Speaker 2: be honest. At the quarterback position, both captain eligible both
15:38
Speaker 2: you know, flex eligible and definitely want a lot.
15:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, Scary, you're my boy. You bring up the best points.
15:44
Speaker 1: That's why I bring you up all the time. It's
15:45
Speaker 1: not against you. You bring up good points that I
15:48
Speaker 1: like to talk about them. But I use your I
15:50
Speaker 1: do sit our discord all the time at Chibnation. It's
15:52
Speaker 1: not at the person. It's when someone brings it up.
15:55
Speaker 1: I like to respond for all because I think everybody
15:57
Speaker 1: reads it and thinks one way, we're trying to use
15:59
Speaker 1: that to frame up other things that we're talking about
16:01
Speaker 1: and other angles on the slate. The other thing was
16:04
Speaker 1: I just saw it here? What was I thinking about?
16:06
Speaker 1: Oh title? I want to go to you if you
16:07
Speaker 1: can add on the quarterbacks if you want to think
16:09
Speaker 1: we spent a lot on them, but go to the
16:11
Speaker 1: key is running back here. This is the same team
16:13
Speaker 1: that Bucky and A one Sean Tucker just ran all over.
16:18
Speaker 1: This is the matchup. But obviously you mentioned a little
16:20
Speaker 1: off the top when you've got Javonte Jaliel so I
16:23
Speaker 1: mean you could even tie this into the captain before
16:25
Speaker 1: we move on. Didn't spend a lot on them, but
16:26
Speaker 1: like you know, bo Nicks is eating up some of
16:29
Speaker 1: Javonte's rush attempts. Jalil McLoughlin's cutting into it a little bit.
16:33
Speaker 1: They have this guy estimate that they've been talking about
16:36
Speaker 1: a bunch and he's four hundred bucks and six hundred
16:38
Speaker 1: up top. I mean, it's tough to go there, but
16:40
Speaker 1: this is a team that just got run all over.
16:42
Speaker 1: So you can cancel out the captain conversation if you
16:44
Speaker 1: want because you moved on, or you can go to
16:46
Speaker 1: running backs with that conversation. But I think that's at
16:48
Speaker 1: least something to talk about here going up against the Saints.
16:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, it definitely is a good point. Like I'm gonna
16:53
Speaker 4: be playing some Javonte Captain. I'm not sure it's the
16:56
Speaker 4: slate I want to go Jalil. I mean, you're talking leverage.
16:59
Speaker 4: You'd get all leverage Javonte bone nick. Some people go
17:02
Speaker 4: something like Kamara. If Jalil gets there, they're probably pounding
17:06
Speaker 4: the football like the box did, taking the air out
17:09
Speaker 4: and limiting time of possession on the same side. So
17:12
Speaker 4: if you really got some big balls or something, you
17:14
Speaker 4: can do it. I'm not gonna go Jaliel and captain.
17:16
Speaker 4: I like him a lot in the flex though, I
17:18
Speaker 4: like Javonte and the Captain. I like Javonte a lot
17:21
Speaker 4: in the flex the interesting stuff like after that, I'm
17:25
Speaker 4: not gonna really get to estimate.
17:27
Speaker 3: I'm not I think gonna get.
17:28
Speaker 4: To Jamal or care Miller just because thirty six and
17:32
Speaker 4: twenty four, that's where all these receivers that are priced
17:35
Speaker 4: at that are gonna be on the field a ton.
17:37
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna bank on Kamara having a great game.
17:39
Speaker 4: Again if an injury happens, if we saw with like
17:43
Speaker 4: the James Cooks, suff Reyray Davis get all the work.
17:45
Speaker 3: Obviously he was out pregame.
17:47
Speaker 4: If something happened to Kamara, if they do, I don't
17:50
Speaker 4: want to take all your steam or all your thoughts
17:52
Speaker 4: handle because you said some pre show.
17:54
Speaker 1: I had show. Now this is the gun I know.
17:59
Speaker 3: I'm not.
17:59
Speaker 4: I won't even go go to that point you mentioned.
18:01
Speaker 4: All right, I'll just say quick you mentioned Kamara maybe
18:03
Speaker 4: being used more of a receiver. If that was the case,
18:06
Speaker 4: Jamal KeAndre Miller will be up. Could he be used
18:08
Speaker 4: as a running back again, I'll let you talk more
18:10
Speaker 4: on that. I'm not really gonna be playing those guys
18:12
Speaker 4: because all those receivers are priced around there, and I'm
18:15
Speaker 4: gonna bank on Kamara mixing and the receivers. I do
18:18
Speaker 4: really like Jaliel and the Captain though for the Broncos,
18:21
Speaker 4: and I really like Jamonte today as well.
18:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, whop you got it up there. It's a guy teacher,
18:26
Speaker 1: Derek Man Derek the teacher, he says, when they work independently,
18:30
Speaker 1: but he puts them to work independently.
18:32
Speaker 2: That's and what this or the love love seeing this comment.
18:36
Speaker 2: It's great and it ties into one quick little story
18:39
Speaker 2: and a shout out for sure to if he's watching
18:41
Speaker 2: mister Reid, my my daughter's substitute teacher. So he's had
18:46
Speaker 2: a sub last week and the guy said he's a
18:47
Speaker 2: big fan of the show, watches all the time and
18:50
Speaker 2: big supporters ship at Nation. So talk about like as
18:52
Speaker 2: a kid having like the inside inside track with the sub.
18:57
Speaker 2: So I wanted to give mister Reid a shout out
18:59
Speaker 2: for sure.
18:59
Speaker 1: Cool, that's amazing. Shout out to mister Reid, you know,
19:01
Speaker 1: love to see that he hops in the class and
19:03
Speaker 1: he's you know, got a story to tell right away.
19:06
Speaker 1: But old Hoopster and the crew so love that, I guess,
19:10
Speaker 1: shout out to Ricky here back at practice this week too.
19:12
Speaker 1: A Wednesday came back, so shout the Ricky but Javonte
19:16
Speaker 1: captain of the Broncos d certainly interesting from everything we
19:18
Speaker 1: talked about, just the way to flip it because that's
19:20
Speaker 1: super leverage on the Kamara captain at thirty five percent.
19:23
Speaker 1: So I definitely like that call. I think that was interesting.
19:26
Speaker 1: I think it's what is it like four touches ever
19:29
Speaker 1: on the season or forever in the NFL for estimate,
19:31
Speaker 1: I think he's only I think he's gone for twenty
19:33
Speaker 1: seven yards across four people.
19:35
Speaker 2: That's just that's just little Jordan Humphrey that you're talking about.
19:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, to talk about Jordan all I was saying, you know,
19:42
Speaker 1: I'm teasing title. Obviously, we always talking, you know, we're
19:45
Speaker 1: trying to break this stuff down and get ideas and
19:46
Speaker 1: come in with good concepts and stuff like we mentioned.
19:48
Speaker 1: But just one thing I read this morning that I
19:50
Speaker 1: thought made a little bit of sentence as well. We
19:52
Speaker 1: all discuss where we're about to go next with Bob
19:55
Speaker 1: Means and Cedric Wilson, tipped and undrafted rookie, all this stuff,
19:59
Speaker 1: Like you know, I like see me in SC lining
20:02
Speaker 1: up now with Moreau when we get there later he
20:04
Speaker 1: catches touchdowns for real and you know, no Tasom Juwan's there,
20:07
Speaker 1: But I get it and to leave some money. But
20:09
Speaker 1: I will say there is a scenario with Kendriy Miller
20:13
Speaker 1: is back right where it's not I'm not vouching for
20:16
Speaker 1: him as much as if they they're good with that
20:19
Speaker 1: that they can run Jamal Williams more so Williams and
20:21
Speaker 1: the flex. Certainly you can play Williams with Kamara because
20:25
Speaker 1: he's just the same. It could be the same thing
20:26
Speaker 1: Kamara got like eight checkdowns last game. Again, has nothing
20:29
Speaker 1: to do with this one, but just to note it,
20:31
Speaker 1: they may want to use him a bit more that way,
20:34
Speaker 1: and obviously that makes him super valuable if that's the case,
20:36
Speaker 1: and hence why we see him so popular at the Captain.
20:39
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be afraid to put Jamal Williams into
20:42
Speaker 1: the flex with him because most people aren't going to
20:44
Speaker 1: do that, even if they don't rule it out, meaning
20:47
Speaker 1: they set a rule to break that up. I don't
20:49
Speaker 1: think they will. I still don't think they're gonna get
20:51
Speaker 1: enough of it. And I definitely think that could be
20:53
Speaker 1: a thing where it's Kamara catching more balls, getting you know,
20:56
Speaker 1: you know, eight for eighty fifty on the ground and
20:59
Speaker 1: a touch down, and then Jamal Williams still gets some
21:02
Speaker 1: and gets a touchdown on the goal line or something
21:04
Speaker 1: like that. He ends up being valuable at thirty six
21:06
Speaker 1: hundred because he's still useful or even later in a
21:08
Speaker 1: game if the Broncos are up and they use him instead, Like,
21:10
Speaker 1: there's just other ways that he can get into the mix.
21:13
Speaker 1: So I do have interest in him there and the
21:14
Speaker 1: other side I talk about, I will have a little
21:16
Speaker 1: estimate at Foreigner Bucks just because Michael just asked this
21:19
Speaker 1: after I said it, I agree, yeah, Like for me,
21:22
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm risking that it's Warner Bucks on this
21:24
Speaker 1: late You're already risking so much anyway, why would I
21:27
Speaker 1: not add a little bit more risk only in the
21:28
Speaker 1: flex though, of course. And then I liked the Javante
21:31
Speaker 1: up top call, So whop, I'll let you talk about
21:33
Speaker 1: running backs now.
21:34
Speaker 2: That'd be very simple for me. I mean, Camara, Javonte Williams,
21:38
Speaker 2: and I'm fairly certain I'll either be fading or way
21:42
Speaker 2: under weight on the rest. Like I just want to
21:44
Speaker 2: take my chances with all the wide receivers and pass catchers.
21:47
Speaker 2: We know that there's a big void both sides really
21:50
Speaker 2: with pass catchers, Like, I'll take my chances there, and
21:53
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys are similarly priced to pass
21:56
Speaker 2: catchers that I want. So a lot of Kamorrow as
21:58
Speaker 2: much as I can get, as much Javonte Williams as
22:01
Speaker 2: I can get, and then to me, the rest of
22:03
Speaker 2: these guys, I just I don't have much interest in
22:06
Speaker 2: really at all. Like McLoughlin Miller Williams estimate, I just
22:13
Speaker 2: I'll probably fade a lot of them, like I said,
22:15
Speaker 2: or be way way underweight.
22:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd like a little bit too. Tonight, like the
22:18
Speaker 1: chat was talking a little about this. I saw this
22:20
Speaker 1: one here a couple different ways. Yeah, just on the
22:22
Speaker 1: Kamara thing and then we'll move on to wide receiver.
22:24
Speaker 1: But what he's definitely a guy Beatlebaine that fits the
22:27
Speaker 1: the one to five, you know, the setup there is
22:29
Speaker 1: just you know, he does all the work for the
22:31
Speaker 1: Saint side and then you fill it out. The tough
22:32
Speaker 1: part is picking the five guys on the Broncos side.
22:34
Speaker 1: I know you'll get Nix and Sutton and whatever else
22:37
Speaker 1: in there, but after that it gets tricky certainly, probably
22:39
Speaker 1: leaving some money in that scenario as well. And then
22:42
Speaker 1: Don had talked about fading Kamara. I think tonight building
22:44
Speaker 1: in sets where you just ex Kamara out of Captain
22:47
Speaker 1: and Flex and just see what you get. See if
22:49
Speaker 1: you like some of those lineups. We had this whole
22:50
Speaker 1: conversation in our discord the other day about building twenty
22:53
Speaker 1: lineups for Showdown. Do it with Kamara X out in
22:56
Speaker 1: the Flex and in the Captain and just see what
22:58
Speaker 1: you get. If there's something you like within that pool
23:00
Speaker 1: or that set, run it. I think Kamara should be
23:03
Speaker 1: in your lineup tonight. He's going to be ninety five
23:06
Speaker 1: percent owned or something across both, so I get it.
23:08
Speaker 1: But you know, essentially the point would be just to
23:11
Speaker 1: see if you find something you like, don't be afraid
23:13
Speaker 1: to run it as two of your twenty or something
23:15
Speaker 1: and just roll it that way or three. And if
23:17
Speaker 1: you want to go all in on the fade, then
23:19
Speaker 1: by all means do you. That's up to you.
23:21
Speaker 2: They got to build like twenty three to like three
23:26
Speaker 2: win for the Broncos, right, I mean, build your teams
23:29
Speaker 2: with that assumption that the Saints can't get anything going
23:32
Speaker 2: at on we've seen we've seen games where even though
23:35
Speaker 2: we think Kamara has a high floor where the Saints
23:38
Speaker 2: can't do anything and he has seven or eight fantasy points,
23:42
Speaker 2: that's through your bank. And now the issue here tonight
23:44
Speaker 2: is like his realistic floor, even in a blowout is
23:48
Speaker 2: probably like, I don't know, eleven twelve, which on the
23:52
Speaker 2: site is probably good enough to be an optimal.
23:55
Speaker 1: That's the key. I'm glad you brought that up. Actually,
23:57
Speaker 1: that's a great point to put across. Is like people
24:00
Speaker 1: could sit here and say, oh, I can see where
24:01
Speaker 1: it's a bad night for Kamara and he just gets
24:04
Speaker 1: you five for sixty and thirty five on the ground,
24:07
Speaker 1: but you're like, wait a minute, that's actually a pretty
24:09
Speaker 1: damn good score.
24:10
Speaker 2: Now, maybe what he's ingles two weeks ago right then
24:15
Speaker 2: he got eleven and it was uncoptimal, right, yeah, it was.
24:18
Speaker 1: It was.
24:19
Speaker 4: I thought you were talking about the Bengals slate was
24:21
Speaker 4: really low scoring too, and it was a bunch like
24:23
Speaker 4: a bunch of twelve thirteens where they didn't get there,
24:26
Speaker 4: but they got there because it was a way under
24:27
Speaker 4: the total.
24:28
Speaker 2: What the hell game was that? Because it cost me
24:29
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars when he had
24:31
Speaker 2: a bullshit catch on the last drive. It was uh
24:33
Speaker 2: oh Buccaneers game. Yeah yeah, yeah, whoever they just recently
24:38
Speaker 2: played on show Down. It was like two years ago,
24:40
Speaker 2: and he had eleven fantasy points and that was inoptimal
24:44
Speaker 2: whatever that game was for.
24:47
Speaker 3: Casey seventeen point four on Tampa the last two weeks.
24:50
Speaker 2: I don't know which was the case. It was the
24:52
Speaker 2: twelve one whatever.
24:54
Speaker 1: I remember it now you text you he had the
24:56
Speaker 1: catch on the very last drive.
24:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, so in that score, that's it was on optimal. Yeah,
25:01
Speaker 2: it's the KC game there. Yeah, it was Monday night
25:03
Speaker 2: or something. Yeah, that twelve point six was that was
25:06
Speaker 2: in optimal twelve point six fantasy points. So that's what
25:09
Speaker 2: you're that's what you're up against, especially a game like this.
25:11
Speaker 2: They could be nasty.
25:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's why this lad is someone interesting again
25:16
Speaker 1: for getting different. It's just you only get so many lineups,
25:18
Speaker 1: and within those lineups, you got to plan how you
25:19
Speaker 1: want to play them, and then from that it's all
25:21
Speaker 1: just trying to find your way to the top. But
25:22
Speaker 1: we're getting it all here, right. Forty six thousand. Shut
25:24
Speaker 1: up the Morse, you know, could be the winner up
25:26
Speaker 1: top kipper kicker captain. We all know how showdown goes,
25:29
Speaker 1: that's for sure, you know. Like Scary said, it's back
25:32
Speaker 1: to him. Good point. It's tough to outscore the kickers,
25:35
Speaker 1: so lots that you can do here, So I think
25:37
Speaker 1: that's at least somewhat interesting. Hoop, I'll go back to you.
25:39
Speaker 1: On these wide receivers. Bub means business. We talked about
25:42
Speaker 1: your boy little Jordan, the Sutton Vlay thing we got.
25:45
Speaker 1: On the other side, Cedric Wilson, I already mentioned earlier,
25:48
Speaker 1: being eight hundred dollars cheaper in the flex than Bub,
25:50
Speaker 1: is a guy that you could use. So your your
25:51
Speaker 1: thoughts at the wide receiver position.
25:54
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean I want to play. I want
25:58
Speaker 2: some of all these guys because there's there's a chance.
26:00
Speaker 2: I mean, who the heck knows, Like who's gonna be.
26:03
Speaker 2: Everyone thinks it's means for the Saints. Yeah, sure it
26:07
Speaker 2: could be, but there's other guys that have a chance
26:09
Speaker 2: to be the main dude Tipton, Cedric Wilson could get
26:12
Speaker 2: some work here, Saint Brown at two hundred dollars, I
26:15
Speaker 2: have interest in that, So I'm playing all the Saints
26:18
Speaker 2: guys for sure means Tipton, Cedric Wilson, and Saint Brown
26:24
Speaker 2: in terms like rules, like I don't know, like I
26:28
Speaker 2: probably won't set many rules to be honest with you,
26:30
Speaker 2: like I'm just gonna play them and see what happens
26:33
Speaker 2: on the Broncos side. Sutton at ten eight, like this
26:38
Speaker 2: is a perfect example with Sutton, like a perfect way
26:41
Speaker 2: like game theory roster construction, where you can just get
26:44
Speaker 2: different right away, build a team with Sutton at ten
26:48
Speaker 2: eight and then just drop all the way down to
26:51
Speaker 2: is it vial ballet however you preach yeah, Vla or
26:55
Speaker 2: Franklin and leave six thousand, seven thousand, like those guys
26:59
Speaker 2: could easy outscore Sutton tonight, like easily outscore Suddon. And
27:04
Speaker 2: you know people will have those teams for sure where
27:06
Speaker 2: they're leaving the big chunks, but most won't. And you
27:09
Speaker 2: know there's I mean, you even look at the projections,
27:12
Speaker 2: they're not even that big of a gap in the
27:13
Speaker 2: projections between Sutton and some of these other guys. You
27:16
Speaker 2: can do it on the other side too, with the
27:18
Speaker 2: with the Saints dudes, like build a team with Sutton,
27:20
Speaker 2: because any optimizer if you just run it. It's gonna
27:24
Speaker 2: put Sutton in there because it has the salary to
27:26
Speaker 2: do it. You have the salary to do it, and
27:28
Speaker 2: he's projecting higher than these guys. Pull yank Sutton's ass
27:32
Speaker 2: out and put anyone else in there, and you're leaving
27:35
Speaker 2: a huge chunk. And it's very realistic, like very realistic
27:38
Speaker 2: that one of these wide receivers outscore Sutton tonight. So
27:42
Speaker 2: I will have Sutton, but honestly, I'll probably take an
27:44
Speaker 2: underweight stance on Sutton tonight. I mean, I just I
27:48
Speaker 2: don't know. Now, he's probably gonna absolutely go off. But
27:51
Speaker 2: I want them all. I want Valet, I want Franklin,
27:54
Speaker 2: I want Sutton, And I mean, if you guys are
27:58
Speaker 2: gonna absolutely shit on me for this, you're gonna shot
28:01
Speaker 2: on me for sure. But my least favorite, my least
28:04
Speaker 2: favorite is the guy who I'm not even allowed to
28:07
Speaker 2: talk about any longer on the show. So I'll have some.
28:10
Speaker 2: I'll have some just because I have to, and if
28:12
Speaker 2: he goes off, I have to have exposure to him.
28:15
Speaker 2: But yeah, well, Jordan Humphrey is my least favorite.
28:18
Speaker 1: So that just means no lapping it when it happens, right,
28:21
Speaker 1: you can't come back and be like, oh what I
28:23
Speaker 1: was on in a week too early to.
28:24
Speaker 2: Say that I've definitely taken the victory. Laugh if he
28:27
Speaker 2: does something regardless.
28:31
Speaker 1: For what.
28:34
Speaker 4: You know, if you have a shipper with them, sure,
28:37
Speaker 4: Otherwise there cannot be no victory.
28:38
Speaker 1: Laughing you got a sugar with him, we should tear
28:40
Speaker 1: half that poster down behind you and put a Humphrey
28:43
Speaker 1: jersey up there one side that if you win all
28:46
Speaker 1: the money with him today, I'm putting him the captain
28:47
Speaker 1: in a couple just for hoopster, the cheap Justin Watson type,
28:53
Speaker 1: you know, captain that wins it all. So we'll see,
28:55
Speaker 1: but tit all to you again. We can just go
28:58
Speaker 1: in circles on these guys because we know what it is.
29:00
Speaker 1: If something stands out specifically or you usually talk about this,
29:03
Speaker 1: so maybe you can hit on it here, like is
29:05
Speaker 1: there any rules that you're setting up with some of
29:07
Speaker 1: these guys, just how you sort of wouldn't want some
29:10
Speaker 1: or you think they would eat the other guy's lunch,
29:11
Speaker 1: or how you're doing it there, because it is tough
29:14
Speaker 1: to just know much or even pick through these guys
29:17
Speaker 1: what you want to do with them.
29:18
Speaker 3: It's definitely tough.
29:19
Speaker 4: No, I'm not setting any rules because it's gonna be
29:21
Speaker 4: a rotation and stuff on both sides, and at their prices,
29:26
Speaker 4: like again like eight points and ten points both, Like
29:29
Speaker 4: two of those could be on the optimal at two thousand,
29:32
Speaker 4: three thousand. Couple things that stood out Kamara the high
29:35
Speaker 4: or the second highest receiving prop on DraftKings is absolutely
29:39
Speaker 4: I mean, it makes sense, but that forty six and
29:41
Speaker 4: a half or something thirty seven and a half for Kamara,
29:44
Speaker 4: thirty five and a half for Bove means v and
29:47
Speaker 4: a half thirty seven and a half for Kamara the
29:50
Speaker 4: second highest on the slate.
29:51
Speaker 1: I think that's light. We'll see how it goes. But
29:53
Speaker 1: I just man, those checkdowns are gonna be like five
29:56
Speaker 1: or six a piece and whatever he runs them for.
29:59
Speaker 3: So it's like four and a half catches minus one
30:01
Speaker 3: fifty on the over.
30:02
Speaker 1: So yeah, to your point, there you go, that's say
30:04
Speaker 1: five catches, he's catching him five to six. He's got
30:07
Speaker 1: to do something with one of them that I thought
30:09
Speaker 1: it would be a little bit higher than thirty seven
30:10
Speaker 1: and a half. But what's his rushing prop?
30:12
Speaker 4: His rushing prop is we I hate how they do
30:17
Speaker 4: that like rushing.
30:18
Speaker 3: They changed their hold on sixty seven and a half.
30:22
Speaker 2: That is wild though, with the Kamara receiving show, because
30:25
Speaker 2: that's typically where he's at with a Lave and Shaheed
30:28
Speaker 2: in the lineup right. I mean that's the range where
30:31
Speaker 2: he typically resides.
30:33
Speaker 1: That's what I was again, I was just going my
30:35
Speaker 1: concept from earlier. Maybe it's because I thought that yet,
30:38
Speaker 1: I you know, no one else probably thinks that is.
30:39
Speaker 1: I thought for sure that there could be a spot
30:41
Speaker 1: tonight where we not only see the eight type of
30:43
Speaker 1: checkdowns if it's minus one fifty to almost five catches,
30:46
Speaker 1: and then on top of it, it just seems lightly
30:48
Speaker 1: you said for you know, Bob Beans, Cedric Wilson, Mason Tipton,
30:51
Speaker 1: Juwan John there's no anything like, there's no tonight. I
30:55
Speaker 1: don't know that one just seems interesting to me, So sorry,
30:58
Speaker 1: go ahead. Title.
30:58
Speaker 3: I like that.
31:00
Speaker 2: I love I love when we get Tamba sports betting advice.
31:03
Speaker 4: Yeah too, did who was the one that had a
31:09
Speaker 4: sports bet last time that they thought?
31:10
Speaker 3: Oh you did?
31:11
Speaker 2: Who Buffalo.
31:15
Speaker 3: Even without cook? Yeah that was a winner. Another thing
31:19
Speaker 3: you got me on the rushing prop.
31:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's really made like McLoughlin nineteen and a half,
31:23
Speaker 4: estimate fifteen and a half, So all that talk, but
31:26
Speaker 4: estimate getting a little more. I mean, he still didn't
31:29
Speaker 4: get many snaps last week the Gloughlin went down. I
31:32
Speaker 4: think that only makes me like Jamonte even more than
31:35
Speaker 4: I already did, which I did like.
31:36
Speaker 3: But yeah, back to the receivers.
31:39
Speaker 4: I think I just really want to play the top
31:41
Speaker 4: three on both because like hoops guy Lil Jordan, he
31:44
Speaker 4: went to wide receiver four last game and damn near
31:46
Speaker 4: wide receiver five.
31:49
Speaker 1: You got to call it this guy.
31:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, to retain his spot, Like yeah, I mean no
31:55
Speaker 4: that Finally Sean Payton knows what he's doing and bention
31:58
Speaker 4: this clown because he stinks. I mean, so Troy Flank
32:02
Speaker 4: Franklin Or had the second most snaps, the Von Veeley third,
32:06
Speaker 4: pretty big gap.
32:07
Speaker 3: Marvin Mims.
32:08
Speaker 4: If I was to take a shot, I'm Ecuinamias Saint Brown,
32:11
Speaker 4: assuming he gets called up on the same side little
32:14
Speaker 4: Jordan Humphrey and Marvin Nims. I think I would take
32:17
Speaker 4: a shot on Mims, and it's because his shots are
32:19
Speaker 4: all just go rounds.
32:20
Speaker 3: Like Scantling he missed, bo Nicks.
32:23
Speaker 4: Missed him just briefly or by a little bit like
32:25
Speaker 4: a sixty yard bomb last week, And if anyone catches
32:28
Speaker 4: a sixty yard bomb in this game, I would feel very,
32:31
Speaker 4: very confident they're on the winner.
32:32
Speaker 3: So again it's more the more teams you play, you
32:35
Speaker 3: can add him in.
32:36
Speaker 4: But it's clearly on the top three receivers on both
32:39
Speaker 4: sides for me, Sutton, Villy, Franklin, that is what we've
32:42
Speaker 4: seen last week.
32:43
Speaker 3: I'm gonna trust that's the case.
32:45
Speaker 4: Humphrey got nineteen snaps, Mims seventeen, so again they can
32:48
Speaker 4: do something.
32:49
Speaker 3: Mims is more way downfield.
32:51
Speaker 4: I don't mind taking a shot on him, but means
32:53
Speaker 4: Edric Milson, Cedrick Wilson, Mason Tipton, feels like the clear
32:57
Speaker 4: three receivers and three receiver sets, and don't forget Jawan Johnson,
33:00
Speaker 4: Foster Moreau. They will go twelve personnel too. You won't
33:04
Speaker 4: always see three receivers, which is the reason I don't
33:07
Speaker 4: love the Ecuanamias Saint Brown today. So mainly just the
33:10
Speaker 4: top three on both sides.
33:11
Speaker 1: Land and calling your ass right out. Who knows probably
33:15
Speaker 1: who's got a landing over there. But this I said,
33:16
Speaker 1: ship it donation put put Mims in your line up.
33:20
Speaker 4: He's right ninety nine percent of the time, but when
33:22
Speaker 4: you aren't right and he catches that bomb.
33:25
Speaker 3: You can win all the cheese. So that's the thought
33:26
Speaker 3: process behind it.
33:28
Speaker 1: Happy belated to our guy. Steve Nabors also won the draw.
33:31
Speaker 1: He won the merchandise draw on X the other day.
33:34
Speaker 1: And then he's trying. He's looking out for a guy
33:36
Speaker 1: who he knows we're getting on him. But the little
33:38
Speaker 1: Jordan Humphrey stuff. He's switching the topic for you to
33:41
Speaker 1: line cutting, just so you don't feel as bad.
33:43
Speaker 2: We're back on track. Now, we're back on track. A
33:45
Speaker 2: lot long care conversations to move past the little Jordan
33:49
Speaker 2: conbos a little quicker.
33:51
Speaker 1: I'm going to move past most things, but I didn't
33:52
Speaker 1: want to move past this one. It was, you know,
33:54
Speaker 1: two ways this can go, And I did want to
33:56
Speaker 1: talk about this because I like this just the theory
33:58
Speaker 1: that came up. But definitely can play Kamara or Rattler
34:02
Speaker 1: up top and just put the denver D against them.
34:04
Speaker 1: That's certainly possible in a game like this, especially, but
34:07
Speaker 1: I also think it's someone interesting. Now going back to
34:09
Speaker 1: the Javonte Williams stuff, where he is the levery John
34:13
Speaker 1: bo Nicks. They're the favorite, it's the best running matchup.
34:16
Speaker 1: He's the leverage on Kamara. On the opposite side, he's
34:19
Speaker 1: way less. He's only thirteen to two versus Kamara seventeen
34:22
Speaker 1: to seven. You can still get Kamara into the flex
34:24
Speaker 1: and then you can still play the Denver d against that.
34:27
Speaker 1: I think it was Landon who brought that up earlier,
34:29
Speaker 1: so I think you know, flipping that around. But I
34:31
Speaker 1: definitely have a lot more interest in that one as
34:33
Speaker 1: the show's gone on, just for the all the reasons,
34:35
Speaker 1: the game theory of it all. So I certainly like
34:37
Speaker 1: that leverage play there and Hoop you can comment on
34:41
Speaker 1: that or you can take us to tight end or both.
34:42
Speaker 1: That's where we're going next.
34:44
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, definitely interested in some of these tight ends,
34:47
Speaker 2: both guys on the Saints. Although the Juwan Johnson thing
34:50
Speaker 2: was he sixty sixty eight hundred. I know pricing doesn't matter,
34:54
Speaker 2: but I just still like it just doesn't seem right,
34:57
Speaker 2: Like it seems like you should be like forty five
34:59
Speaker 2: hundred or something. I get it. With all these guys
35:01
Speaker 2: out definitely in play. I kind of like Moreau a
35:04
Speaker 2: little bit better. It just seems like he is always
35:07
Speaker 2: there in the red zone a touchdown upside twenty eight
35:11
Speaker 2: hundred and you know in this game at this price point,
35:15
Speaker 2: like if he finds an end zone, I think you
35:17
Speaker 2: probably need him. So very interested in Moreau and then
35:21
Speaker 2: Kroll at one k. Pretty solid games. He's kind of
35:26
Speaker 2: been the main dude the last two weeks. Four targets
35:30
Speaker 2: last week, which isn't a huge number, but at one thousand,
35:34
Speaker 2: getting four targets, like, I'll definitely take that. So Johnson, Moreau, Kroll.
35:39
Speaker 2: I like Moreau probably my favorite. WHENU factor in the price.
35:42
Speaker 1: Tag, yeah, Moreau, that was brought up earlier and I thought,
35:45
Speaker 1: you know, two for fifty four even just last game.
35:47
Speaker 1: So Lust a couple of touchdowns on the season, so
35:49
Speaker 1: I think he's four K less. Again, price doesn't matter,
35:52
Speaker 1: but it's also the factor of salary usage doesn't matter.
35:56
Speaker 1: So if you have your best lineup maxed out with
35:58
Speaker 1: Jawan Johnson, you can just that's a prime example where
36:00
Speaker 1: you can just take Jawan Johnson out play him. So
36:03
Speaker 1: if you are setting a minimum tonight, if your maximum
36:05
Speaker 1: is fifty and that's what you want your maximum to be,
36:08
Speaker 1: it's up to you what you put it at, And
36:09
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if you're going to the standard fifty k max,
36:12
Speaker 1: you could easily put forty six as your men. I
36:14
Speaker 1: would go even lower. I'm just saying, my point being
36:15
Speaker 1: that's an example of how you figure out, well, how
36:18
Speaker 1: low would you go. There's a prime example. I would
36:21
Speaker 1: just swap out Juwan play Moreau one game sample. He
36:24
Speaker 1: could definitely beat him. You know, it's one of those things. Title.
36:27
Speaker 1: I'll go to you tight end Joe.
36:29
Speaker 4: I like Juwan Johnson. I'll be overspending there. Pro would
36:32
Speaker 4: be my second. The props just on Foster. Ten and
36:35
Speaker 4: a half receiving yards and plus six fifty to score
36:38
Speaker 4: is really really gross. Jawan's second highest or I guess
36:41
Speaker 4: second highest pass catcher. He'd be third if you're counting Kamara,
36:45
Speaker 4: but in receiving yards he's ahead of Tipton. He's Cedric
36:49
Speaker 4: Wilson plus three sixty to score is actually one of
36:51
Speaker 4: the better on the slate, big body good after the catch.
36:55
Speaker 4: We've seen him brace stuff. So I'll be playing probably
36:58
Speaker 4: overweight Jawan flax, mainly because that sticker shock when you
37:01
Speaker 4: do look at that price tag, especially in a gross game.
37:04
Speaker 4: Like this when I don't think salary means too much.
37:07
Speaker 4: By far, my favorite tight end that Lucas Krawl do too.
37:09
Speaker 4: I'll be playing a little of him as well, but.
37:12
Speaker 1: I'd like to crawl one one thing about Jawan, at
37:14
Speaker 1: least what I'm seeing right now. I mean, we'll see
37:16
Speaker 1: as we get closer to game time, but you are
37:17
Speaker 1: paying up, but I don't know if we're paying up
37:19
Speaker 1: for probability because I'm still seeing his ownership look pretty
37:22
Speaker 1: solid in the flex. It would almost be It seems like,
37:26
Speaker 1: at least it would almost be much riskier, but it
37:28
Speaker 1: would almost be better to go all the way and
37:30
Speaker 1: put him up top. We didn't talk a lot about
37:31
Speaker 1: them earlier, but just mentioning it now, I do see
37:34
Speaker 1: ownership in the flex. I also think that we've talked
37:37
Speaker 1: a lot this season about playing these balanced captains, Like
37:41
Speaker 1: if you're paying up sixteen to two for Sutton, can't
37:44
Speaker 1: be that much worse to pay ten to two for Johnson,
37:47
Speaker 1: Like he's six grand less. So again, who knows what
37:49
Speaker 1: this game actually shakes out like, But just an example
37:51
Speaker 1: system there where you could set it up that way
37:54
Speaker 1: as well. So I got nothing else to really add
37:56
Speaker 1: at tight end title will stay with you, kickers D.
37:58
Speaker 1: The will LUTs revenge game was brought up earlier, But
38:02
Speaker 1: any thoughts here on kickers and d's.
38:05
Speaker 3: I think they're all good plays.
38:06
Speaker 4: I mean, it's pretty clear the defenses like obviously Denver's missing,
38:10
Speaker 4: Sir Tam. But you get a backup QB and Rattler
38:12
Speaker 4: against a beat up O line and beat up everything.
38:16
Speaker 4: They got no receivers, they got their backup QB. Just
38:18
Speaker 4: a huge broken team and then the same side. I mean,
38:21
Speaker 4: bow knicks can obviously make a ton of mistakes too.
38:24
Speaker 4: We will see Broncos d be higher than Saints for
38:26
Speaker 4: the reasons I just said, rightfully so, but I don't
38:30
Speaker 4: know what twenty five percent roughly always like the kickers.
38:33
Speaker 4: I know Whop always likes the kickers. The problem is,
38:36
Speaker 4: I guess it's not necessarily a problem. They'll probably be
38:38
Speaker 4: lower on than the defenses. But ken the quarterbacks move
38:41
Speaker 4: the ball enough to give them in field goal range,
38:43
Speaker 4: but then to make a good point for them, they're
38:46
Speaker 4: back backup quarterback and Rattler Boone Nicks a bottom fifteen quarterback.
38:50
Speaker 4: If they can't convert in the red zone, there will
38:52
Speaker 4: be a lot more field goal opportunities, and I don't
38:54
Speaker 4: see the or these coaches going for like fourth and
38:57
Speaker 4: threes very often if they do get down there, because
38:59
Speaker 4: I think points will be important.
39:01
Speaker 3: So I like all of them kickers and defenses for.
39:03
Speaker 1: Sure, six three, six to two, a touchdown and a safety.
39:07
Speaker 1: Final score. But give us your game score. What do
39:10
Speaker 1: you got, tell us who wins and what the score is.
39:12
Speaker 1: Let's roll with it there. I think it was thirty
39:14
Speaker 1: seven and a half. Last I looked was the total
39:16
Speaker 1: on this one, So get just give a thirty seven.
39:18
Speaker 1: Now give us your final score for this one. With
39:21
Speaker 1: the winner, Lebron goes up to three point favorites. Now
39:24
Speaker 1: I think they started at one or one and a
39:25
Speaker 1: half and then went up from there. So what's this one?
39:29
Speaker 2: Oh my guy, Danny, you got to bring them up always.
39:31
Speaker 2: I mean, we got the big matchup this week Lions
39:33
Speaker 2: versus Vikings, and man, the one thing that suit is
39:36
Speaker 2: super tilting though, and I know they don't start doing
39:38
Speaker 2: the flex stuff until later in the season, but we
39:41
Speaker 2: have like shitty primetime games as week. We have Lions
39:44
Speaker 2: and Vikings at one and then forty at one Eastern
39:47
Speaker 2: and then forty nine ers in Chiefs at like four
39:50
Speaker 2: pm Easterner. Imagine if those are the prime time games
39:52
Speaker 2: this week, be so excited. I know they don't want
39:54
Speaker 2: to start flexing too early, but man, we got.
39:57
Speaker 1: To Yeah, that's the schedule stuff like the schedule or
40:00
Speaker 1: builds out. They did actually want the game this upcoming week,
40:03
Speaker 1: but it was just a morning to afternoon game versus
40:05
Speaker 1: It didn't really mean anything.
40:06
Speaker 4: So Jefferson instead of eighty five percent Jefferson main slate
40:12
Speaker 4: versus showdown.
40:13
Speaker 2: No, I mean it is crazy. We'll definitely to hit
40:15
Speaker 2: on it Sunday, but like, no one wants to play
40:17
Speaker 2: guys like Jefferson this week. This week it could be different,
40:21
Speaker 2: but I agree, I'm making an agreement. I've apologize to
40:23
Speaker 2: Danny every single show because I ship on his vikings
40:26
Speaker 2: week one because I thought they were going to suck.
40:29
Speaker 2: They appear to be very good. We face off this week.
40:31
Speaker 2: The apologies are done. We're boys and hopefully we're meeting
40:34
Speaker 2: up in the NFC Championship game.
40:36
Speaker 1: Do we have another London game this week?
40:39
Speaker 4: Patson, Yes, stay over the week.
40:43
Speaker 2: They should stay there. They should stay there forever. Man,
40:46
Speaker 2: Like that team is what cheeks.
40:49
Speaker 1: Cheeks our guy Jason got a good you don't want
40:51
Speaker 1: to see more, Jetsu that that's we've seen a lot
40:54
Speaker 1: of them. We'll see, but yeah, no, no super takes
40:59
Speaker 1: here titled you in Dad, I said kicker and you.
41:03
Speaker 4: Guys, Yeah, I think you see.
41:09
Speaker 2: I'll just say yeah real quick. I do think it
41:12
Speaker 2: probably increased ownership for the defenses. Yeah, because of this
41:16
Speaker 2: game kickers, I'm fine with. It's indoors uh in the dome.
41:21
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm good with with whatever I get it
41:24
Speaker 2: that kicker or defense. And again, it could be one
41:26
Speaker 2: of those crazy slates. If a kicker scores twenty, like
41:30
Speaker 2: there's a chance that that's what you need up top.
41:32
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying I'm playing kicker captain, but
41:35
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised. Like if someone goes out and
41:38
Speaker 2: gets twenty at the kicker position, it's definitely in the
41:40
Speaker 2: realm of possibilities where that is the optimal captain. Am
41:44
Speaker 2: I doing it? I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised.
41:47
Speaker 1: Honest slate like this, this is my favorite score of
41:50
Speaker 1: them all. Everyone likes the under I just don't. I
41:54
Speaker 1: don't know. We'll see, We've seen crazier things. That's what
41:56
Speaker 1: people think is going to happen. But I certainly think
41:59
Speaker 1: we could see it pop up there with you the
42:00
Speaker 1: O line issues alone of like the scrambling and all
42:02
Speaker 1: that stuff that you can see on that side. Still
42:04
Speaker 1: having Kamara in there, I mean he can have a
42:06
Speaker 1: big game the other stuff bo Nix has shown to
42:08
Speaker 1: be able to put up some points. I think there's
42:10
Speaker 1: definitely a possibility we get one of those ugly games
42:13
Speaker 1: or sorry island games that people think is going to
42:15
Speaker 1: be ugly but turns out just to be a little
42:18
Speaker 1: bit more scoring than what you might think.
42:20
Speaker 3: I heard.
42:20
Speaker 1: You're right, Yeah, I hope thinks a little better to watch,
42:23
Speaker 1: but yeah, the setup is there, so sorry Ty. Any
42:27
Speaker 1: final thoughts on the slate anything else before Hoop goes
42:29
Speaker 1: to FanDuel.
42:30
Speaker 3: Nope.
42:30
Speaker 4: I think I'm going to be condensed that captain and
42:33
Speaker 4: my player pool relatively will be pretty condensed. Like I
42:35
Speaker 4: don't see myself getting the Equanamia Saint Rounds as much
42:38
Speaker 4: the Lil Jordan's probably not even names. Unless I'm playing
42:42
Speaker 4: like seventy five teams, he would be the one. But
42:44
Speaker 4: I think I'll we covered it like it's pretty condensed
42:46
Speaker 4: and you can leave a boatload of salary.
42:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, now we're getting these bets in there. Wow. I
42:51
Speaker 1: don't have any betting advice on that. This is your
42:54
Speaker 1: boy Danny's on this one though. Hoops, I'll let you
42:56
Speaker 1: take it.
42:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can keep that up. I mean it's a
42:57
Speaker 2: good time point. And really it's the only thing we
43:00
Speaker 2: really need to talk about on FanDuel because it's the
43:02
Speaker 2: same shit. I mean, it's all those cheap dudes are
43:05
Speaker 2: going to be in play. They're all underprice you and
43:07
Speaker 2: leave Cellar on the table. I think the MVP is
43:10
Speaker 2: even more condensed. It's gonna be Kamara, Nick Radler, and
43:13
Speaker 2: then anything you do out of those three is gonna
43:16
Speaker 2: be different. Whether it's Sutton, my next preference would probably
43:20
Speaker 2: be Javonte Williams. I mean, yes, he's going to be
43:22
Speaker 2: owned up there, but it's going to be substantially lower
43:25
Speaker 2: than the quarterbacks in Kamara. So I think like Javonte
43:28
Speaker 2: Williams up top makes sense. A couple of touchdowns for him,
43:31
Speaker 2: and he's probably the optimal MVP, but everyone else is
43:36
Speaker 2: super cheap. I mean, bub Memes is eighty five hundred.
43:39
Speaker 2: We've got tipped in sixty five. You're gonna be able
43:41
Speaker 2: to do whatever the hell you want because we have
43:42
Speaker 2: so many cheap guys there so no real talking points
43:47
Speaker 2: that are different than what we discussed over on the
43:50
Speaker 2: DK side title.
43:52
Speaker 1: If you want to add anything, I just will say, like,
43:53
Speaker 1: Kamara has to be even higher owned over on Fandel
43:57
Speaker 1: We've got him up there, and I agree, like, I
43:58
Speaker 1: just think that's going to be the setup. He's sixteen thousand,
44:02
Speaker 1: bo Nicks is fifteen, so again I just and Rattler's
44:05
Speaker 1: fourteen to five for fifteen hundred bucks more or one
44:08
Speaker 1: thousand more. People are just getting to Kamara and just
44:10
Speaker 1: running it and hoping that you know, he's good to go,
44:14
Speaker 1: and so I get it. And he's gonna be owned
44:15
Speaker 1: on draftings too, Like we talked about, off the top,
44:18
Speaker 1: the most up top that we maybe maybe even the
44:20
Speaker 1: most we've seen all season because you know the way
44:22
Speaker 1: it shakes out and having all those values and stuff,
44:23
Speaker 1: and I get it. But I think that you know,
44:25
Speaker 1: anything you want to add on FanDuel you can chime in,
44:27
Speaker 1: but I think that's definitely what I see.
44:29
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh, I mean it's what do you want to
44:31
Speaker 4: do with Kamara? Do you want to Probably you want
44:33
Speaker 4: to fully lock him. Do you want to fully fade?
44:35
Speaker 4: You want to go with the field. Drafting's just a
44:38
Speaker 4: billion times better showdown product than FanDuel.
44:41
Speaker 1: Like I would just create on a FanDuel and give
44:43
Speaker 1: them the money, give everybody the money as a donation
44:45
Speaker 1: if I lose, Like, I just don't even want to
44:47
Speaker 1: play him on there. I'm definitely not playing Kamara on
44:49
Speaker 1: FanDuel MVP, and I don't even care. I just don't care,
44:53
Speaker 1: Like it's just not happening.
44:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's different. He gets there, you'll be splitting with
44:58
Speaker 3: a lot of people. Yeah, I'm with you, I'm with
45:01
Speaker 3: you ten.
45:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just did. That's my I know. People say,
45:03
Speaker 1: isn't it the same on It's not, though, it's just not.
45:05
Speaker 1: You can still see these captains on DraftKings get there
45:07
Speaker 1: with like a two hundred dollar guy, a four dollars guy.
45:09
Speaker 1: There's so many different combinations that you can do it
45:12
Speaker 1: differently because of the system versus on FanDuel. It's just
45:15
Speaker 1: tricky where it's like someone always has it. We've seen
45:18
Speaker 1: slates on FANDL this season where it's six hundred and
45:19
Speaker 1: eighty six bucks for a one hundred k prize and
45:23
Speaker 1: the maxers can lose money while finding a winner. Like
45:25
Speaker 1: that's just nuts to me. Shouldn't be a thing. Nick
45:28
Speaker 1: brought this up. We actually hit on this earlier, Nick,
45:30
Speaker 1: not the stats, so thank you for the tidbit. That's
45:32
Speaker 1: cool to see just zero for seven scoring these touchdowns,
45:35
Speaker 1: but again, sample size and the fact, like we said,
45:37
Speaker 1: he might just get eight dump boss for fifty and
45:40
Speaker 1: still be needed on this slate and it's not because
45:42
Speaker 1: of you know, just him and the price and all that.
45:45
Speaker 1: It's the other guys on the slate. So I definitely
45:47
Speaker 1: think that's something to remember and keep in mind as well. Hoop,
45:50
Speaker 1: anything else you want to talk about just before we
45:53
Speaker 1: get out of here.
45:54
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, nothing really in regards to slate. Obviously, get
45:56
Speaker 2: on over ship at nation dot com. Is NHL fIF
46:00
Speaker 2: teen still active?
46:01
Speaker 1: Even better? Actually perfect, I'll bring it up here, go ahead,
46:05
Speaker 1: NBA fifteen because it's coming back. What is it Tuesday?
46:09
Speaker 1: Then it's coming back. So just you that that's the
46:11
Speaker 1: code reason.
46:12
Speaker 2: Now yeah, and for for NBA, our guy Rio is
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Speaker 2: heading up the product. I mean if not, I mean obviously,
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Speaker 2: if you saw any of our tweets, dude, is very sharp,
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Speaker 2: goes into the NHL streets on what was it, Tuesday night,
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Speaker 2: Monday night, whatever, the big whatever night that the big contest,
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Speaker 2: goes in there and uses our big needs content that
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Speaker 2: was up shiping nation dot com and wins himself one
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Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars casually. And then he's going to stroll
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Speaker 2: right into NBA season and lead our product for that.
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Speaker 2: I mean, the guy is very, very sharp. So we're
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Speaker 2: looking forward to to NBA getting started. Any of our
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Speaker 2: more getting our discord great time to join the nation.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Rio use his name Hebrew Cheetah by the way,
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Speaker 1: the h stance for hospitality. The guy's just an absolute stuck,
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Speaker 1: great person, great DFS player. I was just with him
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Speaker 1: at the MLB Live Final when he came in to
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Speaker 1: ship a Nation. He was crushing MMA the m A
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Speaker 1: streets just as a DFS player. We brought him on
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Speaker 1: to do some NBA stuff. He was at the MLB
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Speaker 1: Live Final. If I'm taking anything away, Tyler, you can
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Speaker 1: chime in he just won NHL. The other night he
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Speaker 1: won one hundred and something k to start the season
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Speaker 1: in NFL in Showdown. Remember the name if you don't
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Speaker 1: know it already. The guy's an absolute crusher. Love to
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Speaker 1: have him on the team. Excellent. Dude just works his
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Speaker 1: ass off and the people in the discord love him.
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Speaker 1: He's always in there helping. Last year he was doing
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Speaker 1: NBA Showdown six nights a week, and then he was
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Speaker 1: throwing a bonus core in on the seven. So gotta
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Speaker 1: give him his credit shot with the NADS. Rio gave
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Speaker 1: him his flowers. Putting up all that good content, taking
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Speaker 1: care of stuff. I mean, it's just been awesome over
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Speaker 1: at the Nation. If you guys aren't a part of it,
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Speaker 1: you can go over and check it out. Use the code.
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Speaker 1: If you don't want to join right now, that's fine.
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Speaker 1: We got all these free shows, but just put your
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Speaker 1: email in, get the free course, get the free education course.
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Speaker 1: See you can see what we're really all about, and
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Speaker 1: see that we mean business when we're talking about not
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Speaker 1: just bubb means business, Shipping Nation means business. To title
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Speaker 1: anything you want to add before we get out, man.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's just really no time better time to join you.
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Speaker 4: Look at NFL is going, PGA Swing seasons going, DJN
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Speaker 4: doing the show yesterday, Stone all the content still there, MLB,
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Speaker 4: we still got two more series two Gamer Today, Showdown content,
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Speaker 4: dj has been doing that, still going, MMA this week
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Speaker 4: is always going.
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Speaker 3: College football is going, NASCAR is going, NBA will be
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Speaker 3: going on Tuesday. NH.
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Speaker 4: I mean, there's if you're a DFS fan, if you're
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Speaker 4: a DFS player, there is no better time. There's all
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Speaker 4: the money to make. There's also all the money to lose,
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Speaker 4: which is why you definitely have to keep good bank
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Speaker 4: roll management. But one thing he missed with Rio NBA's
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Speaker 4: his mainsporting, though he crushes it all back to back years.
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Speaker 4: He has got to the Live Final with multiple seats
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Speaker 4: last year as well, So no one better in the
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Speaker 4: business than our men.
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Speaker 1: Real. Yeah, I love to see it. And if you
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Speaker 1: guys want to brush up on your NBA stuff, I
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Speaker 1: might have to get another a revamp here. We get
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Speaker 1: Rio in the mix on the next one and I'll
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Speaker 1: get him involved too. But like I said, he was
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Speaker 1: doing the showdown stuff, but he's also doing everything else
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Speaker 1: running heading up the whole project. So just to note,
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Speaker 1: we do have the NBA course if you're a remember
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Speaker 1: already it's included for free and if you want to
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Speaker 1: sign up you do get access. If you do all Access,
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Speaker 1: you get access to the NFL course, the PGA, MLB, MMA, NBA.
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Speaker 1: We got the NHL one just around the corner. That's
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