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Bolt Report | 5 November · The Bolt Report

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Speaker 1: Is the gold reform It Normally I tell you what's
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Speaker 1: coming up in the show, and it's a lot, but
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Speaker 1: I've upset someone and I really should say something straight
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Speaker 1: off the top. I seem to have got under the
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Speaker 1: skin of the Albanezi government's most dangerous and incompetent minister,
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Speaker 1: which is actually good because the man have offended his
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Speaker 1: Energy Minutes of Chris Bowen and have offended him by
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Speaker 1: telling the truth again last night that he is indeed
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Speaker 1: dangerous and incompetent. Plus Bowen also doesn't tell the truth.
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Speaker 1: He lies, like he did in complaining about me today
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Speaker 1: in Parliament as he mocked Dan Tea and the opposition's
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Speaker 1: energy spokesman, because Tea is trying to find a way
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Speaker 1: for the Liberals to drop the disastrous zero emissions target
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Speaker 1: that the Nationals have already dropped, by which Chris Bowen
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Speaker 1: still treats like a holy mission.
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Speaker 2: A Liberal Party say of.
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Speaker 3: The National Party and I quote they are terrorists. And
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Speaker 3: the first rule of being a parasite is.
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Speaker 2: Not to tell your host it's.
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Speaker 3: All going swimmingly over there, all going swimmingly over there,
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Speaker 3: which resulted in the shadow minutes of a climate.
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Speaker 1: Change on seventh, thirty four Lives.
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Speaker 3: I could to all that Liberal Party, the once great
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Speaker 3: Liberal Party, supporting the construction of cold fire power stations
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Speaker 3: in Australia. I mean the party of Harold Holt is
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Speaker 3: now the party of Andrew Bolt.
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Speaker 1: Now let me explain what I said. Bowen was a liar.
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Speaker 1: For one, the Liberals are not the party of Andrew Bolt. Sadly,
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Speaker 1: or they'd never have been so dumb as they get
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Speaker 1: in this mess. They never have agreed to the zero
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Speaker 1: bout twenty fifty target in the first place four years ago,
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Speaker 1: the target that Bowen still supports, the target that's helped
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Speaker 1: drive up electricity prices more than twenty three percent in
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Speaker 1: just the past year alone. It's causing heavy industries to
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Speaker 1: shut in, you to feel a lot of pain. But
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Speaker 1: what really makes Bowen a liar again is this bit
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Speaker 1: of that attack on Tan, which I'll just replay.
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Speaker 3: No Shadow minutes off for climate Change.
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Speaker 1: On seventh, Eric Flour Lives, I could to relate.
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Speaker 3: Liberal Party, the once great Liberal Party, supporting the construction
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Speaker 3: of coal fire power stations in Australia.
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Speaker 1: That's false. Danteane said no such thing last night. In fact,
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Speaker 1: he refused three times to say on the ABC what
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Speaker 1: Bone today told Parliament He had said, listen for yourself.
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Speaker 4: Does that mean that an option for more coal, as
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Speaker 4: the Nationals put forward yesterday could become a unified coalition policy?
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Speaker 5: Well, Sarah, I know you'd love me to announce our
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Speaker 5: policy here on your program, but that would be not
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Speaker 5: respecting my parliamentary colleagues, and I'm not going to do that.
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Speaker 1: No, it didn't commit to more coal, state fire power station.
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Speaker 1: Refuse to comment. You cannot trust the word Bone says
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Speaker 1: about anything to do with global warming. And how does
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Speaker 1: this man even dare show his face in public after
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Speaker 1: all this disasters? I mean, what happened to the billions
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Speaker 1: that Bone promised to spend to get green hydrogen, that
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Speaker 1: miracle green gas that he claimed would save us.
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Speaker 3: Now green hydrogen future is fundamental to that clean energy
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Speaker 3: feature as a powerhouse.
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Speaker 1: What a disaster. Just about every green hydrogen project Bone
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Speaker 1: has touched as is installed or canceled. Who's planned wind
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Speaker 1: farms too? Way behind time and way of a budget.
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Speaker 1: In fact, every week comes more evidence that this guy
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Speaker 1: is dangerous and incompetent. Today again, I mean, this time
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Speaker 1: reports that Bones push for Australia to host next year's
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Speaker 1: United Nations Climate Conference in Adelaide. That is going to
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Speaker 1: cost one billion dollars and that's according to the government's
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Speaker 1: own nessends a billion dollars to hold the climate talk
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Speaker 1: fest in Adelaide. I mean, it's Chris Bone mad or
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Speaker 1: does it just not care about all the taxpayer money
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Speaker 1: is burning through?
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Speaker 6: Now?
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Speaker 1: I see if the Liberals could just get over there.
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Speaker 1: Net zero nonsense Chris Bone and the Prime minis anything
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Speaker 1: alban is if we're sitting there like sitting ducks for them.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you think what a fuss Just one example,
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Speaker 1: you think what a fuss Labor made at the last
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Speaker 1: election with this lie that these seven nuclear reactors the
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Speaker 1: coalition was promising they would cost six hundred billion dollars
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Speaker 1: when the truth, of course is more like one hundred
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Speaker 1: and twenty billion.
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Speaker 6: You're now are going to an election with a nuclear
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Speaker 6: plan that will build seven nuclear reactors, that will cost
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Speaker 6: six hundred billion dollars. What are you going to cut
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Speaker 6: to pay for it?
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Speaker 1: But you compare costs the governments net zero plans against
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Speaker 1: the oppositions plans for seven nuclear reactors to give us
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Speaker 1: not to screen power, but reliable power unlike wind. You
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Speaker 1: compare a report two years ago by the Net Zero
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Speaker 1: Australia Coalition of Climate energy experts from Australian America. Estimate
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Speaker 1: of the cost of getting to net zero by twenty
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Speaker 1: fifty would require up to nine trillion dollars of capital
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Speaker 1: to be invested to twenty sixty nine trillion dollars. That
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Speaker 1: makes the coalition seven nuclear reactors look pretty cheap, doesn't
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Speaker 1: it that, you know, one hundred and twenty billion against
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Speaker 1: nine trillion or nine hundred billion dollars, whichever way you
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Speaker 1: want to put it. Now it should add that it's
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Speaker 1: true that since that net zero Australia report which I
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Speaker 1: just showed you, the group's Theering Committee, says Wade Weight,
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Speaker 1: it's being misrepresented. It since published an update saying the
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Speaker 1: difference between what would have to spend anyway on power
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Speaker 1: supplies and the difference between that and the extra to
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Speaker 1: get to net zero is more like three hundred billion dollars.
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Speaker 1: But that actually strikes me as plainly wrong. But whatever,
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Speaker 1: you just think of the damage already being done in
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Speaker 1: parterit zero policies, massive power bills, the inflation and things
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Speaker 1: now are so bad under this government, these drivers of cost,
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Speaker 1: this cost of living crisis because of you know, electricity
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Speaker 1: in particular, but other government bungling the economy so bad
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Speaker 1: that a new report from the Food Bank charity says
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Speaker 1: twenty percent of Australian households skipped meals or whole days
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Speaker 1: of eating in the past year. So you've got to ask,
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Speaker 1: how on earth did we come to this where questions
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Speaker 1: like this were today asked in Parliament.
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Speaker 7: Food Bank's hunger report reveals that nearly two hundred thousand
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Speaker 7: Queensland families went an entire day without eating in the
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Speaker 7: past year. Prime Minister, why are people going hungry under
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Speaker 7: labor when the Prime Minister promised and I quote no
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Speaker 7: one held back and no one left behind?
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Speaker 1: Now the Prime Minister's response, but look at all the
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Speaker 1: handouts we're giving and you didn't support a lot of them.
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Speaker 1: I mean they are the handouts, the subsidies, the temporary rebates,
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Speaker 1: all of them expensive band aids paid for by you
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Speaker 1: to hide our decline of the cost of living crisis
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Speaker 1: thanks to Alban Easy and his Treasurer and the dangerous
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Speaker 1: and incompetent Chris Barne. Joining me is the Political Panel
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Speaker 1: Camera Milner for be chief staff to Labor leader Bill Shorten,
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Speaker 1: now director of GXO Strategies and Michael Costler, former New
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Speaker 1: Southway Labor treasure Michael Costler. When I see how much
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Speaker 1: is going wrong under this government, power prices way up,
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Speaker 1: inflation growing again, people going hungry, even the worst productivity
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Speaker 1: growth in decades, Unemployment rising, debt growing, immigration too high,
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Speaker 1: interest rates not falling more and more, it is stunning
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Speaker 1: to me that the opposition has somehow made itself the
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Speaker 1: target for weeks and weeks now.
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Speaker 8: Well, as I said last week, we had a double
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Speaker 8: curse here. We've got an incompetent government today inept opposition.
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Speaker 8: But look, one of the things I noticed today is
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Speaker 8: that clearly the treasurer, Federal treasure has lost his swagger.
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Speaker 8: He looks rattled at the moment, and that's not a
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Speaker 8: good thing.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 8: You know, he likes to take credit for things that
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Speaker 8: go well, but when things go bad, he's looking at
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Speaker 8: everybody else to blame. Look, the bottom line is they've
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Speaker 8: got no policies, they've got no direction. They've had summits
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Speaker 8: on productivity, they've had strategies on Australia manfacturing and the
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Speaker 8: bottom line is that none of this will work, and
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Speaker 8: the reason it won't work is because there are economically
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Speaker 8: incompetent I mean the take a trump ism. You know,
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Speaker 8: these are low economic IQ people. They don't know how
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Speaker 8: to run an economy. And that's the bottom line. Government
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Speaker 8: spending at record levels, even though I hear the treasure
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Speaker 8: that they try to claim that there's no connection between
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Speaker 8: government spending and inflation, nobody believes that. Then you've got
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Speaker 8: your energy policy deindustrializing Australia and you've got bo and
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Speaker 8: in charge of that, so you've got problems on that front.
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Speaker 8: And then immigration, and your immigration is still hitting record
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Speaker 8: levels and causing our problems in the housing market. And
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Speaker 8: finally the one you raise, low productivity. We had a
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Speaker 8: productivity summit and not one single policy has come out
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Speaker 8: of that that helps mitigate the reregulation of the labor
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Speaker 8: market under this government, which is driving up our labor
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Speaker 8: costs at a time when our energy costs are rising.
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Speaker 8: So we've just got incompetence all round, including the opposition.
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Speaker 1: Well, Camera Milner, and thank you very much for keeping
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Speaker 1: the date with us from London now where you've dropped
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Speaker 1: in again, Cameron, the opposition has made itself the target.
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Speaker 1: I don't know is that unforgivable? You know, this long
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Speaker 1: debate about whether the scrap net zero. Is that the
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Speaker 1: inevitable kind of pain you're going to get and distraction
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Speaker 1: you're going to get when a party changes its mind
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Speaker 1: on such a profound policy emergency.
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Speaker 9: Really well, that's right, Andrew, and I mean, let's look
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Speaker 9: at the UK experience where I am here. I mean,
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Speaker 9: voters ultimately get it right. And so this Labor garverment
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Speaker 9: looks like they're high at the moment. Massive majority of
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Speaker 9: palament oppositions know where to be seen. And yet in
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Speaker 9: the UK Starmar is actually under massive pressure, massive pressure
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Speaker 9: because voters have worked him out. Voters have worked out
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Speaker 9: he doesn't he didn't get let to with any plans.
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Speaker 9: To your point, Michael Cup under economy, his chancell is
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Speaker 9: about to break their election promise on taxes in three
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Speaker 9: weeks time.
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Speaker 10: This is a.
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Speaker 9: Disaster and voters are working them out. So I think
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Speaker 9: at the ends, voters always get it right, Andrew. So
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Speaker 9: Australian voters will actually work this labor government out that
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Speaker 9: they are actually delivering, They are actually promising anything even
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Speaker 9: without the opposition.
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Speaker 1: But imagine the target rich environment we've got right now.
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Speaker 9: If you had a half decent opposition, Albanies will actually
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Speaker 9: be under some pressure.
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Speaker 1: Oh look Cameron, I couldn't agree with you more. But Michael,
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Speaker 1: I wonder whether behind it all the government does know
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Speaker 1: that if the coalition does ever get itself into some shape,
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Speaker 1: which doesn't seem imminent anytime soon, they might be in trouble.
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Speaker 1: Because the tension today really turned into a naziness haven't
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Speaker 1: seen for quite a while in question time, first with
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Speaker 1: the Treasurer accusing Opposition leader Suizan Lee of laying and
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Speaker 1: then the Opposition calling the Prime Minister Elia Halington.
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Speaker 11: It gives me a welcome opportunity to point out an
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Speaker 11: egregious lie that was being pushed around the gallery this
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Speaker 11: morning on morning media by the leader of the Opposition,
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Speaker 11: and the leader of the Opposition said completely untruthfully, dishonestly
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Speaker 11: that the Reserve Bank yesterday called out the government's spendings.
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Speaker 10: You are hopeless and the liar and the liar line
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Speaker 10: to the Australian if lying is in order, then.
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Speaker 12: This is a liar, a liar, that's what we're.
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Speaker 1: Debating, Michael Cross. At both sides withdrew their allegations.
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Speaker 10: There.
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Speaker 1: What is this telling us though about the contest right now?
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Speaker 8: Well, I think there could be a contest. Look again,
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Speaker 8: the point I just made didn't charmers look rattled there.
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Speaker 8: I mean, you know, he's got a very technical point
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Speaker 8: saying that the RBA didn't say there was a connection
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Speaker 8: with the inflation and the government spending, but everybody else
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Speaker 8: will tell you in the economy there is a direct
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Speaker 8: correlation between the two events, and you can't deny that.
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Speaker 8: That's just a technical debating point. Look, the opposition, I
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Speaker 8: think can hold the governmental account, but net zero alone,
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Speaker 8: Andrew is not going to deliver this. You know, they
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Speaker 8: can jettison net zero, but they're talking about jenison a
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Speaker 8: policy that wasn't going to come into effect of twenty fifty.
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Speaker 8: And if they don't come up with something concrete in between,
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Speaker 8: they've got real problems. What they should do, I think
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Speaker 8: is look at pegging prices of power to the inflation
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Speaker 8: rate and have a program of putting gas power and
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Speaker 8: keeping our coal fire generators opera and announce that and
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Speaker 8: give a commitment they're going to do that. In addition,
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Speaker 8: they need to do something with the budget spending. They
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Speaker 8: need to identify where they're going to cut waste. You know,
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Speaker 8: it's not a magic bullet dropping the commitment to net zero.
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Speaker 8: They need to also look at the labor market. Are
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Speaker 8: they going to put reforms back in to give us
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Speaker 8: a competitive labor market? All of those things need to
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Speaker 8: be part of the mix.
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Speaker 1: Cameron and I very much agree with Michael's point that
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Speaker 1: there's going to have to be a real suite of
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Speaker 1: economic policies, which the word before from the opposition economic policies,
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Speaker 1: but sticking with net zero just on that alone, because
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Speaker 1: that's the big topic that's tearing them apart at the moment.
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Speaker 1: Can it win the public debate if it scraps that
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Speaker 1: zero when it will then be fighting labor, the Greens,
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Speaker 1: the Teals, the media, the ABC, the climate industry and
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Speaker 1: the elites.
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Speaker 9: Well yes I think they can, Andrew, because Peter Dutton
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Speaker 9: did it with the Voice. Remember the elites lined up
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Speaker 9: against on olbow side saying of course you'd have to
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Speaker 9: say yes to the Voice. And then finally the National
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Speaker 9: Party broke, and then Queensland, my home state, broke as well,
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Speaker 9: and then the rest of the nation followed. Six months later,
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Speaker 9: up so Peter Dutton has actually shown the way you
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Speaker 9: can actually stand up to this wokers and this green
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Speaker 9: elitism that's going on in our body politic at the moment.
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Speaker 9: But you need a leader as strong as Peter Dutton
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Speaker 9: and Susan Laisha write that.
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Speaker 1: Well that then you switches our focus for the leadership.
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Speaker 1: But I'll talk about that later in the show. Michael Costa,
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Speaker 1: Camera Milner, thank you very much to you both. Thank
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Speaker 1: you coming up. An international student tells us what she
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Speaker 1: really thinks of this country that's giving her an education.
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Speaker 13: Everywhere society.
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Speaker 1: An anti Israeli group has posted a most astonishing speech
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Speaker 1: by a supporter who's a foreign student. And this speech
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Speaker 1: challenges a common excuse for flooding our universities with eight
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Speaker 1: hundred thousand students from overseas. You know, all these students
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Speaker 1: are going to love us and when they go home,
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Speaker 1: they'll get great jobs. They'll help us, so it's a
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Speaker 1: net net. But listen now to a student from Malaysia,
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Speaker 1: an official of Queensland University of Technology Student Representative Council
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Speaker 1: laying into Australia at a protest that are at a UNI.
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Speaker 13: I'm an international student and ever since I've lived in Australia,
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Speaker 13: I've went two things. The first, it's a racism and
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Speaker 13: everywhere in Australia society love down the streets of race
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Speaker 13: for at any given day, and I've done clumps have
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Speaker 13: been black and brown people for no reason. A lender
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Speaker 13: of the major parties in this country have challenge us racism.
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Speaker 5: Play with it.
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Speaker 13: Second thing, they are brutes.
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Speaker 14: There's a way to push.
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Speaker 13: Back against these racists, and the far left matches the
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Speaker 13: last needs to counter them. You know, racism and foreign bigotry,
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Speaker 13: your products of a sick pups system. We just need
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Speaker 13: this masterstem. I'm gonna have found a society that's.
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Speaker 14: Actually worth living in.
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Speaker 1: Well. Joining me is Rowan. Dean had turned Chief of
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Speaker 1: the spectat Australia, a host of outsiders every Sunday at
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Speaker 1: nine am, at host of his own shirt Fridays at
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Speaker 1: seven pm. Rowan is anyone astonished, really though, that a
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Speaker 1: student coached at a modern Australian university becomes convinced that
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Speaker 1: Australia is racist and also a planet heating and people
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Speaker 1: are pressing colonialist and capitalist menace, enjoying a white privilege.
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Speaker 12: Andrew people should not be surprised, but they should be
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Speaker 12: absolutely outraged. I watched that earlier today and I just
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Speaker 12: was sickened by it for the simple reason. She says
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Speaker 12: she has learnt two things. She's an international student who's
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Speaker 12: come to these shores. Presumably she's paying money to attend
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Speaker 12: one of our universities. I don't know what that means.
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Speaker 12: Someone else is missing out on a place.
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Speaker 8: I don't know.
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Speaker 12: But she said she's learnt two things, and both of
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Speaker 12: them are anathema to our social cohesion. First of all,
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Speaker 12: she's learned that apparently were all horrible people doing dreadful things,
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Speaker 12: and secondly that the only response to that is some
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Speaker 12: kind of student protest activism. If that's the sum of
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Speaker 12: her education, well it tells you. It tells us a
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Speaker 12: couple of things. Firstly, that our universities are cesspits of
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Speaker 12: left wing indoctrination, and in my opinion, should either be
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Speaker 12: shut down many of them, or at least at the
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Speaker 12: very least defunded and forced to stand on their own
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Speaker 12: two feet. Why the taxpayer should be paying for people
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Speaker 12: to be taught how dreadful we are, and to be
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Speaker 12: taught that they should be active activists against us in
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Speaker 12: other words, blocking our streets, stopping our bridges, being people
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Speaker 12: being able to go over them, and disrupting daily life.
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Speaker 12: This is the legacy of the Left having marched through
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Speaker 12: our universities and other institutions. But it's also the legacy
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Speaker 12: of us pretending that there's some kind of benefit in
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Speaker 12: bringing loads and loads of people into the country. Now
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Speaker 12: the universities might make money out of it. Basically, all
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Speaker 12: we're doing is exporting, selling places in very comfortable Australian
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Speaker 12: cities to people who, in my opinion, do not deserve
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Speaker 12: the benefits of this country when they get here. But
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Speaker 12: the real tragedy, of course, Andrew, is that if I
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Speaker 12: went to her hometown I'm not sure where she's from,
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Speaker 12: but might be Malaysia, might be Thailand, I'm not sure. Certainly,
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Speaker 12: if I went into the middle of Kuala Lumper and
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Speaker 12: stood in the park and start yelling abuse about the locals,
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Speaker 12: I don't think they would be as tolerant as Australians are.
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Speaker 1: Well, Malaysia actually has far more racist laws than us.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they've got the Bumiputra laws that stop meant
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Speaker 1: to stop the rising influence of Chinese and immigrants and
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Speaker 1: Indian Malaysians. So you know, I don't think Malaysia is
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Speaker 1: the country to tell after that we're racist. Yeah, look,
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Speaker 1: I think the university should be rethinking what they teach kids.
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Speaker 1: See if we're going to be sending hundreds of thousands
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Speaker 1: of foreign students back to their countries with a really
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Speaker 1: jaded view of what Australia is. Rowan, let's go to
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Speaker 1: the main story of Canberra today. I mean it's just
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Speaker 1: of today, of the last month or two. So much
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Speaker 1: media attention is on those liberals. You know, how dare
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Speaker 1: they even think of challenging this whole net zero industry?
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Speaker 1: But you meanwhile, I mean what drives me nuts? You
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Speaker 1: look at the latest and that zero Man, it's for
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Speaker 1: Anthony alban Easy and Chris Bowen who are actually trying
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Speaker 1: to beat Turkey for the right to hold next year's
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Speaker 1: the United Nations Climate Summit in Adelaide, you know, where
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Speaker 1: you have fifty thousand to eighty five thousand people flying
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Speaker 1: in to tell the rest of us to cut our emissions.
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Speaker 1: But we now read that the government's own estimate of
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Speaker 1: the cost of hosting that conference in Adelaide will be
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Speaker 1: one billion dollars. What clown would think that that is
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Speaker 1: a good use of tax posed money.
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Speaker 2: What clown.
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Speaker 12: Indeed, Chris Bowen is the one that immediately springs to mind,
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Speaker 12: but he's got plenty of, you know, fellow clowns under
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Speaker 12: the Canbra big top Andrew a billion dollars. It's obscene,
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Speaker 12: it's disgraceful on their own terms. Imagine the carbon footprint
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Speaker 12: being generated by that billion dollars. So they're the biggest
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Speaker 12: eivocrites you've ever met. But the joke is there used
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Speaker 12: to be a thing, you'll remember Andrew in the fifties
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Speaker 12: and sixties called the cultural cringe, and that was because
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Speaker 12: we were always in Australia. We all was a little
21:34
Speaker 12: bit paranoid that we were five or six years behind
21:37
Speaker 12: the rest of the West American England in particular. We
21:41
Speaker 12: now have climate cringe. What we don't realize in Australia
21:44
Speaker 12: is that the rest of the world is moving way
21:46
Speaker 12: past where we are now. The rest of the world
21:49
Speaker 12: is basically saying right where we're not going down this
21:52
Speaker 12: net zero path. Certainly in Britain, that's what they're on
21:57
Speaker 12: the left and the right they're arguing about it. It's
21:59
Speaker 12: not just the Conservatives who have changed the mind. The
22:03
Speaker 12: Labor Party themselves have got people like Tony Blair questioning
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Speaker 12: the whole net zero agenda. Obviously, America's moved past it.
22:09
Speaker 12: Plenty of countries in Europe are saying no, no, no,
22:11
Speaker 12: there's no way we can continue down this path. But
22:13
Speaker 12: little old Australia is still not only running down the
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Speaker 12: path headlong with all these madcap ideas like giving out
22:19
Speaker 12: free electricity in the middle of the day, but we're
22:21
Speaker 12: also talking about a billion dollars on a climate fest.
22:24
Speaker 12: There is a climate fest this week right now in
22:28
Speaker 12: the middle of the Amazon Jungle. These characters, these climate
22:33
Speaker 12: cultures bulldozed several kilometers of the Amazon jungle in order
22:38
Speaker 12: to build a road so that the limos and the
22:40
Speaker 12: swanky elites could get to their conference centers in comfort
22:45
Speaker 12: without having to go down bumpy old roads or rub
22:48
Speaker 12: shoulders with the indigenous people who live there.
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Speaker 2: This is the biggest scam of.
22:52
Speaker 12: All time, the climate cult. We don't need it in Australia.
22:55
Speaker 12: We certainly don't need Cop thirty one in Australia, and
22:59
Speaker 12: Adelaide not deserved to have so many of these hypocrites
23:04
Speaker 12: wandering around their city for a week or however long
23:07
Speaker 12: it's going to be.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but Rowan they wanted it to so they could
23:12
Speaker 1: have the world come to Australia. And so this government
23:15
Speaker 1: was you know, showed that this government's doing the you know,
23:18
Speaker 1: right on top of the global warming thing and doing
23:20
Speaker 1: the right thing. And haha the liberals, I mean it
23:23
Speaker 1: really is a billion dollars for a labor stunt.
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Speaker 12: Absolutely yeah.
23:30
Speaker 2: And you know this is this is Chris Bowen's great dream.
23:33
Speaker 12: Let's let's have a COP twenty or thirty one or
23:36
Speaker 12: whatever that puts him on the international stage. He's been
23:38
Speaker 12: to several of these COP things and this is the
23:42
Speaker 12: It's the same as Penny one with the United Nations.
23:45
Speaker 12: The Labor Party lot more interested, not in their fellow Australians,
23:49
Speaker 12: not in not in looking after the well being of
23:51
Speaker 12: the Australian economy and our kids' future prosperity. They're interested
23:55
Speaker 12: in their own future jobs on the elitist global climate network.
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Speaker 12: That's what they're after.
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Speaker 1: That is so true. Rondine, thank you so much for
24:05
Speaker 1: your time. I'm just going to say before we move on,
24:09
Speaker 1: as predicted, the electropre mayor of New York, the biggest
24:13
Speaker 1: city and capitalists of America is now the self described
24:18
Speaker 1: socialist Muslim immigrant Zoram Mamdani, who's promising free buses, free
24:23
Speaker 1: child care, government supermarkets, caps on rent, and the rest,
24:26
Speaker 1: including the new modern tribalism New York.
24:32
Speaker 2: Tonight, you have delivered a mandate for change.
24:40
Speaker 15: Thank you to those so often forgotten by the politics
24:44
Speaker 15: of our city who made this movement their own.
24:49
Speaker 2: I speak of Yemeny bodega owners.
24:51
Speaker 15: And Mexican abuelas, Senegalese taxi drivers, and who's back nurses,
25:02
Speaker 15: Trinidadian lime cooks and Ethiopian aunties.
25:06
Speaker 10: New York will remain a city of immigrants, a city
25:10
Speaker 10: built by immigrants, powered by immigrants, and.
25:18
Speaker 2: As of tonight, led by an immigrant.
25:24
Speaker 1: So we're all going to be divided, or they're all
25:26
Speaker 1: going to be divided in America. Apparently there are no
25:28
Speaker 1: American born Americans there you go, oh dear, okay, Well,
25:36
Speaker 1: every day more apartheid here, more in fairness. The second
25:41
Speaker 1: Hospitals now joined Melbourne's and Vincent's and saying all people
25:45
Speaker 1: in emergency claim to be aboriginal, a category three patients
25:49
Speaker 1: to be treated ahead of semi urgent Category four treated
25:53
Speaker 1: ahead of non urgent Category five patients, and this time
25:57
Speaker 1: it's the Royal Melbourne that's offering race based treatment. But
26:02
Speaker 1: then there's the letter I got from a viewer in
26:06
Speaker 1: Country Victoria who writes, after having worked hard, mainly in
26:11
Speaker 1: supermarkets and lastly as a self employed cleaner for forty
26:15
Speaker 1: five years, I found myself on a pension. Any need
26:20
Speaker 1: of dental work now public general, public dental health systems.
26:25
Speaker 1: Priorities this is in Victoria are these Aboriginal and Torres
26:29
Speaker 1: Strait Islanders, children and young people, which she says is
26:34
Speaker 1: fair enough. Homeless or at risk of homelessness, probably fair enough. Again,
26:39
Speaker 1: she's pretty hit with that. Pregnant people, refugees and asylum seekers,
26:46
Speaker 1: registered people with mental or disability problems. And then she says,
26:51
Speaker 1: and finally I might get to be seen after being
26:54
Speaker 1: on a waiting list in about two years. She rang
27:00
Speaker 1: someone from another town a service there. They said three
27:03
Speaker 1: years there. Fortunately she said I'm not in pain or dying.
27:08
Speaker 1: She says if she'd said she was, if she lied,
27:11
Speaker 1: she'd be bumped ahead. But she won't lie. Honestly, I've
27:17
Speaker 1: checked these priorities are indeed true. So you've got one
27:21
Speaker 1: race at the top of the queue and the pensionary
27:23
Speaker 1: clean flaws at the bottom. And this division will only
27:27
Speaker 1: get worse because last year we helped to create well
27:30
Speaker 1: this is not why, but last year we did help
27:32
Speaker 1: to create a best seller by promoting three books by
27:36
Speaker 1: a former Victorian Liberal minister, Roger Pscott, called The Whole Truth,
27:41
Speaker 1: The Truth about Average History, going back two hundred years
27:45
Speaker 1: of records. Now there's a fourth in the series, this
27:47
Speaker 1: one The Whole Truth, Your Land and the MCG which
27:52
Speaker 1: this son looks at the treaty that the Victorian government
27:54
Speaker 1: is negotiating with Aborigines under new laws just passed by
27:58
Speaker 1: its parliament. And again you can order this on the
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Speaker 1: Robinson's Bookshop website. You click on my name you'll see
28:04
Speaker 1: it of the left of the screen Robinson's Bookshop. Roger
28:08
Speaker 1: Pscott joins me. Now, Roger, thanks again for your time.
28:13
Speaker 1: Why did you write this fourth book.
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Speaker 16: Well, Andrew, the reason was very simple. I had noticed
28:24
Speaker 16: that there was lots and lots of activity between the
28:27
Speaker 16: government and the Aboriginal groups which was very very secret.
28:34
Speaker 16: And even now there are things that have come in
28:38
Speaker 16: the treaty bill that they've just passed where it shows
28:44
Speaker 16: things that have been arranged organized quite some time ago.
28:50
Speaker 16: So we're talking several years, and we're talking about up
28:54
Speaker 16: to about half a dozen agreements, and all those agreements
29:00
Speaker 16: point in one direction, and that is giving the Aboriginal
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Speaker 16: people more than their fair share of the assets of
29:10
Speaker 16: this state.
29:11
Speaker 1: And so we have, for example, land water jobs just.
29:22
Speaker 16: Anywhere in any local government in Victoria at the moment,
29:26
Speaker 16: there is a rule that Aboriginal groups should have preferential treatment.
29:33
Speaker 16: So there are only a limited number of jobs in
29:37
Speaker 16: rural Victoria, but those jobs first first people who have
29:44
Speaker 16: an opportunity to go for those jobs are there because
29:49
Speaker 16: of their race.
29:50
Speaker 2: And so.
29:52
Speaker 16: There was so much of this that we decided to
29:56
Speaker 16: write what is a very serious book that explain a
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Speaker 16: lot of the things that have not been explained by
30:05
Speaker 16: the government.
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Speaker 17: Now.
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Speaker 1: Of course, so you're talking about jobs like some that
30:12
Speaker 1: are offered by government to local government. State government where
30:16
Speaker 1: they are they do have those rules. Private sector's not so.
30:19
Speaker 1: But look, you call this book the whole truth. So
30:24
Speaker 1: what is the truth that's being ignored or airbrushed out
30:28
Speaker 1: or pushed aside in this treaty process.
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Speaker 16: Well, let's take something that everybody knows about let's take
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Speaker 16: the MCG. The MCG is crown land. It's always been crownland,
30:45
Speaker 16: and the Aboriginal community are in line to have every
30:52
Speaker 16: bit of crown land in Victoria. There is a bill
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Speaker 16: that has been worked on for some time by the
31:01
Speaker 16: government towards having a public land Bill and they say
31:09
Speaker 16: they need that because they've got to get rid of
31:11
Speaker 16: a few other acts because they're not fit for purpose.
31:16
Speaker 16: And then they explain that not fit for purpose means
31:20
Speaker 16: we have to change it because we're giving a lot
31:23
Speaker 16: of this away to the Aboriginal community. Now, it's not
31:27
Speaker 16: the Aboriginal community's fault, it's the government's fault. Who they
31:34
Speaker 16: are going to give away or they've actually they're almost there.
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Speaker 1: The MCG.
31:41
Speaker 16: Now, when you think of the MCG, you think of
31:44
Speaker 16: what it means to Australia. It's one of the icons
31:49
Speaker 16: of Australia for lots and lots of reasons. It's not
31:52
Speaker 16: just sport, it's also concerts and all the other things
31:55
Speaker 16: that happen there. Then you've got to think, what about
31:59
Speaker 16: a rock What about it? Rap police? What about There
32:03
Speaker 16: are a whole lot of behavioral things which we've seen
32:08
Speaker 16: where places like the MCG have been given to the
32:13
Speaker 16: Aboriginal community, and of course you could imagine that once
32:19
Speaker 16: it's once it's given, it's theirs. It's no, there's no
32:24
Speaker 16: turning back.
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Speaker 1: And well, I think also a lot of your viewers
32:28
Speaker 1: the power of saying no, the power of refusal, which
32:31
Speaker 1: is very intoxicate. Now I don't believe that the MCD
32:34
Speaker 1: would be taken out of you know, the public access
32:37
Speaker 1: will be denied, but all these things then become open
32:41
Speaker 1: for negotiation and haggling over money. I just think it's
32:44
Speaker 1: so wrong, it's so divisive. Roger, I urge people to
32:48
Speaker 1: read your book. You're going to this at great length.
32:50
Speaker 1: You raised some terrific points, a lot of things being
32:53
Speaker 1: skirted over. The whole truth your landing the MCG. Like
32:58
Speaker 1: I say, just search on Roger Piscott or The Whole
33:01
Speaker 1: Truth or go the Robinson's bookshop. Roger, thank you very
33:04
Speaker 1: much indeed for your time. Honestly, what are we doing
33:09
Speaker 1: to this country? What are others doing to this country?
33:12
Speaker 1: After the break? So who is going to take over leading?
33:15
Speaker 1: The liberals will have a brutal assessment of the candidates
33:19
Speaker 1: after this to a classic example of government battling for
33:26
Speaker 1: control the problem. Government created new South Wales Police yesterday
33:30
Speaker 1: shut two Sydney shops for ninety days for selling illegal
33:34
Speaker 1: vapes and especially illegal tobacco. Well will we do two
33:39
Speaker 1: shops closed now? This actually happens to be a crime
33:43
Speaker 1: encouraged by government. Federal Treasurer Jim Charmers was warned by
33:48
Speaker 1: Treasury last year that if he kept raising tobacco taxes
33:51
Speaker 1: he'd forced the poor to buy illegal tobacco instead, Charmers
33:56
Speaker 1: ignored it. Federal taxes are our thirty four dollars on
34:00
Speaker 1: a fifty dollars packet of cigarettes, so that may means
34:04
Speaker 1: many poorous smokers must buy illegal tobacco to get a smoke,
34:08
Speaker 1: because that's just fifteen dollars or so a pack. Now
34:13
Speaker 1: that switch has cost the government billions. It used to
34:16
Speaker 1: get sixteen point three billion dollars in tobacco bex those
34:20
Speaker 1: five years ago. That's now dropped to half that in
34:23
Speaker 1: this year's budget. And what's more, is fueled a gangland
34:27
Speaker 1: war to control the illegal tobacco trade that it's so
34:30
Speaker 1: far had around two hundred shops around Australia set on fire,
34:35
Speaker 1: two hundred burned down, compared to just two now closed
34:39
Speaker 1: police joining of scaw's host jameson Furson, a communications consultant,
34:43
Speaker 1: CHRISTA McSweeney who has worked for coalition prime ministers and
34:46
Speaker 1: Premiers Chrissy. Government creates co crime and now government tries
34:52
Speaker 1: to fight that crime. It's a bit sad, isn't it.
34:57
Speaker 4: Absolutely and government can't get all levels of government together
35:01
Speaker 4: to have a cohesive policy not to just stop fire bombings,
35:05
Speaker 4: but to tackle organized crime, to stop the kids walking
35:09
Speaker 4: into any old easy Mart which is not a legitimate
35:12
Speaker 4: and not a legitimate convenience store retailer and buying vapes
35:18
Speaker 4: because they don't care. All of these vapes and illicit
35:20
Speaker 4: tobacco come in the same container, fueled by organized crime.
35:25
Speaker 4: Both New South Wales and Victoria have set up Tobacco
35:28
Speaker 4: Task Force. New South Wales has forty eight soon to
35:32
Speaker 4: be expanded to forty eight tobacco inspectors. Victoria only has fifteen.
35:37
Speaker 4: But guess what, Andrew and James, they're under the jurisdiction
35:40
Speaker 4: of the Health Department. Health bureaucrats are responsible for inspecting
35:46
Speaker 4: illegal tobacco vendors brought to be opened on our streets
35:52
Speaker 4: by organized crime. How many times have you seen a
35:55
Speaker 4: health bureaucrat wander up and down a high street purveying
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Speaker 4: vipe stores.
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Speaker 12: I don't know.
36:04
Speaker 4: If governments really wanted to fix this, they would cut
36:07
Speaker 4: the excise, put the criminality and the jurisdiction with police
36:14
Speaker 4: at the top of a Coak meeting or premier's National
36:17
Speaker 4: Cabinet or whatever it is we have now, and return
36:20
Speaker 4: those powers to the police, not bureaucrats.
36:24
Speaker 1: Really, I mean, come on, James, I don't want to
36:29
Speaker 1: waste their time or sort of squander time that I
36:34
Speaker 1: want to spend on the Liberal leadership drama in Canberra,
36:38
Speaker 1: and so I want to go straight to that round
36:40
Speaker 1: and give you your say on this absolute balls up.
36:44
Speaker 1: To be honest, a lot of people say that Liberal
36:47
Speaker 1: leaders is in lead, she can't last and will be replaced.
36:51
Speaker 1: But the question is by whom now most or rather
36:54
Speaker 1: are tipping either Defense spokesman Angus Taylor or former SAS
36:58
Speaker 1: Captain Andrew Hasty, Although I think the man with the
37:02
Speaker 1: most promise but long term is James Patterson, even though
37:05
Speaker 1: he's stuck in the Senate there's just thirty seven and
37:07
Speaker 1: needs a lot more wrinkles to look a bit older.
37:10
Speaker 1: Who would you tip to be the next leader. Maybe
37:13
Speaker 1: Lee will even keep the job. But who do you
37:17
Speaker 1: actually want?
37:18
Speaker 17: Okay, well, let's start with the first point, and that
37:20
Speaker 17: is that Susan Lee cannot possibly keep the job.
37:23
Speaker 14: But what's their primary vote? Twenty four percent?
37:25
Speaker 17: That's an historic low for the Liberal Party, and it's
37:28
Speaker 17: only going south. Her personal approval rating is minus thirty
37:33
Speaker 17: three and dropping continually, so she has to go. She's
37:37
Speaker 17: as good as gone. I reckon they'll go with Angus
37:40
Speaker 17: Taylor because they'll try to bore the government into submission.
37:43
Speaker 17: I can't see him being an effective leader, though, I
37:46
Speaker 17: think that's who they'll choose.
37:48
Speaker 14: He didn't cover himself in glory at the last election.
37:51
Speaker 17: The future is as you said, Senator James Patterson, he's
37:55
Speaker 17: stuck in the Senate. Or Andrew Hasty he's stuck in Perth.
37:59
Speaker 17: So both of them have some problems. Personally, I like
38:02
Speaker 17: James Patterson. I think he's an excellent communicator. He's been
38:06
Speaker 17: outstanding on national security. He is a little young, though,
38:11
Speaker 17: so it's surely one of those. But you can always
38:15
Speaker 17: trust the current Liberal Party to make bad decisions.
38:17
Speaker 14: I think they'll go with Angus Taylor.
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Speaker 1: Christian I'm interested in your perspective, particularly as a communications consultant,
38:25
Speaker 1: because look, James Patterson in the Senate so can't be
38:32
Speaker 1: leader now and also young, but he has got something
38:35
Speaker 1: that Andrew Hasey still lacks, an ability to talk about
38:38
Speaker 1: a sensitive issue without causing damaging headlines. Who do you
38:44
Speaker 1: think will be the leader? Who do you want to
38:46
Speaker 1: be the leader?
38:49
Speaker 4: Look, James Patterson has given one of the best speeches
38:52
Speaker 4: I have heard of any person in the Liberal Party
38:57
Speaker 4: in recent years. Lost people able to capture the essence
39:03
Speaker 4: of the Liberal Party and forger direction with oratory, and
39:06
Speaker 4: he did that with his superb speech. Really significant too
39:11
Speaker 4: that he comes from the conservative side of politics and
39:14
Speaker 4: backed in a lot of things that are difficult issues
39:18
Speaker 4: for the party, but sort of said, look, I can
39:20
Speaker 4: read a demographic map and we have to do a
39:23
Speaker 4: better job with our message in returning to values, but
39:25
Speaker 4: we can't give up and return to fighting and in
39:30
Speaker 4: fighting And that was a fantastic expension scene as very
39:33
Speaker 4: very significant by his own.
39:34
Speaker 1: Faction and the other faction.
39:37
Speaker 4: Look, I think there's some fundamental failures with the front bench.
39:42
Speaker 4: Two of our hardest working female senators and again we
39:45
Speaker 4: looked at the Senate, Jan Hume and Sarah Henderson outstanding.
39:50
Speaker 4: Both of them contributed significantly and have continued to do
39:53
Speaker 4: so post the election. Why we have a former host
39:57
Speaker 4: of the seven thirty report languishing on the backbedd who
40:00
Speaker 4: seems to be the only one prosecuting the government in
40:03
Speaker 4: Senate estimates and in committee workout same as Jane. I
40:07
Speaker 4: have no idea. In the case of Sarah Henderson, we're
40:10
Speaker 4: all out of being able to sell a message. But
40:12
Speaker 4: we've got really experienced journalists and communicators sitting there on
40:16
Speaker 4: the back bench as well as bankers. So there's some
40:20
Speaker 4: fundamental issues there and I think we need to look
40:22
Speaker 4: further afield than the two blokes that you have mentioned.
40:26
Speaker 4: There's a silent there's silent work at work here. Andrew,
40:31
Speaker 4: he who gets page three, look, isn't always the one.
40:34
Speaker 2: You might be right.
40:36
Speaker 1: Maybe they've got to do like an option of seeing
40:41
Speaker 1: elsewhere Lucky in the Queensland state election, draft someone from
40:44
Speaker 1: outside get them the safe seats straight off leader. I
40:48
Speaker 1: don't know, but James just quickly. You know, one thing
40:51
Speaker 1: I like about James Patterson as that he has he
40:53
Speaker 1: does seem to be really firmly rooted in the community.
40:57
Speaker 1: He seems to know what's going on, as it comes
41:00
Speaker 1: from being from a labor family, going to a state school,
41:04
Speaker 1: not a private one, although a very good state school
41:06
Speaker 1: er McKinnon, he seems to be I really do think
41:10
Speaker 1: it's a future. But can anyone take as a leader
41:14
Speaker 1: someone who looks so young? Still?
41:16
Speaker 17: Yeah, that is going to count against him, and there's
41:19
Speaker 17: nothing wrong with biding his time.
41:21
Speaker 14: He'll be better for it. And why would you want
41:23
Speaker 14: the poison chellis right now?
41:26
Speaker 17: It's probably the worst thing that could happen to him
41:28
Speaker 17: is to take the leadership now. So maybe we should
41:31
Speaker 17: hold off our excitement speaking of drafting someone in Tony
41:34
Speaker 17: habit wouldn't be keen on having another go?
41:36
Speaker 1: Would he.
41:41
Speaker 12: Dream?
41:41
Speaker 4: On?
41:43
Speaker 1: What did you think about that? Christy?
41:47
Speaker 2: Look?
41:47
Speaker 4: I think we always hark to our great leaders of
41:50
Speaker 4: the past. If Tony happened to John Howder available, I'm
41:54
Speaker 4: sure there'll be a groundswell of support for either of them.
41:57
Speaker 2: But we're out where we're at, and.
41:59
Speaker 4: Could any body lift the polling results?
42:02
Speaker 14: Could they? I'm not sure we should as.
42:07
Speaker 1: In this period, but James at first and Chris Imttsweetey,
42:12
Speaker 1: I appreciate your contributions, but both of you have suggested
42:15
Speaker 1: to me that you don't actually see a viable leader
42:19
Speaker 1: right now, ready and waiting in the Liberal Party and
42:21
Speaker 1: that is a bit sad. Thank you very much to
42:24
Speaker 1: you both. After the break left doing Liberal MP say
42:28
Speaker 1: that Andrew Hasty can't be the next Liberal leader because
42:31
Speaker 1: there's something he said last week. I'll show you what
42:35
Speaker 1: he said and ask Harris's credits really so heartless. Now
42:43
Speaker 1: it's true, So Susan Lee, I don't think it's going
42:45
Speaker 1: to last. His oppositions and leader and the two people
42:48
Speaker 1: tipped to replace her, we talked about them before. Form
42:51
Speaker 1: Soldier Andrew Hasty here on the left, defense spokesman Angus
42:55
Speaker 1: Taylor and the writers you can see having earnest conversations
42:58
Speaker 1: together in Parliament and that at dinner last night at
43:01
Speaker 1: attire restaurant that today was claiming that was nothing for
43:04
Speaker 1: her to worry about. But there has been some sniping
43:07
Speaker 1: at Hasty from some of the liberal left off the record,
43:11
Speaker 1: of course, and also from some journalists also on the
43:14
Speaker 1: left that shock, you know, Hasty is a Christian and worse,
43:18
Speaker 1: he and the nationalist Barnaby Joyce mentioned abortion in Parliament
43:21
Speaker 1: last week, and they were so rude to hijack a
43:24
Speaker 1: vote on a bill called Pria's Law, which means that
43:28
Speaker 1: women suffering a stillbirth would still get parental leave to
43:31
Speaker 1: get over that terrible tragedy. Now it's being whispered. Oh well,
43:35
Speaker 1: obviously this makes Hasty a terrible liberal leader. He's a
43:40
Speaker 1: man talking about abortion. But can I show you two
43:44
Speaker 1: things about what Hasty said? First, he actually supported that
43:47
Speaker 1: bill for parental leave.
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Speaker 18: Stillbirth is incredibly painful for people, and that's why I
43:54
Speaker 18: support the intent of this bill, Baby Prayer's Bill to
44:00
Speaker 18: uphold and preserve employer funded paid parental leave for those
44:05
Speaker 18: who've lost a child in stillbirth or immediately after. And
44:10
Speaker 18: I absolutely support the intent of that, and I think
44:13
Speaker 18: it's a noble and good thing.
44:15
Speaker 1: Well, that's good. But then Hafsy said, and this is
44:18
Speaker 1: what's supposed to be rules about his leader. What is
44:22
Speaker 1: not happy about extending leave to women who actually choose
44:26
Speaker 1: to abort a healthy baby late term, when it's old
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Speaker 1: enough to live outside the womb.
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Speaker 18: I do have a question about the unintended consequences of
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Speaker 18: this bill, and it applies to late term abortions. This
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Speaker 18: place is a place where we can come and we
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Speaker 18: can express views according to conscience. And it's no secret
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Speaker 18: that I'm opposed to late term abortions, but I do
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Speaker 18: call on the government, and I know the sensitivity around this,
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Speaker 18: but I do call upon the government to clarify that
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Speaker 18: it does not apply to late term abortions.
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Speaker 1: Joining me is Joanna Howe, former Rhodes scholar, now professor
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Speaker 1: of law at a laid university and a researcher into
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Speaker 1: the law and abortion, and as you can see, a
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Speaker 1: woman as well, so she may be permitted to have
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Speaker 1: an opinion about abortion. Joanna how the criticism of Andrew
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Speaker 1: Hasty for even mentioning late term abortions, is there actually
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Speaker 1: something that should worry him or anyone else.
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Speaker 19: Andrew Hasty was right to ask that question. It is
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Speaker 19: an absolute disgrace that the Albanezer government pays paid parental
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Speaker 19: leave to women who have late term abortions. This was
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Speaker 19: confirmed by Minister Katie Gallagher earlier this year that the
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Speaker 19: government pays its own taxpayer funded paid parental leave. So
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Speaker 19: that's twenty two thousand dollars that we are paying as
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Speaker 19: taxpayers for late term abortions now through Baby Priers Bill,
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Speaker 19: which everybody supports. The Government is sneaking through another little
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Speaker 19: handout around late term abortion. They're forcing employers to pay
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Speaker 19: for late term abortions for women who have intentional stillborn babies.
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Speaker 19: Now ninety nine percent of Australians would be so aghast
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Speaker 19: that employers are being forced to pay for this, now
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Speaker 19: that taxpayers are pay for it. This is the ideological
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Speaker 19: agenda of the radical left, and most Australians just don't
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Speaker 19: support it.
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Speaker 1: But jan people will think, well, late term abortions port
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Speaker 1: of tragedy because you know, here are women having, know
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Speaker 1: losing very disabled children of that age. But then I
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Speaker 1: was supposed to learn that in Victorian twenty twenty, for instance,
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Speaker 1: this many is one hundred and twenty nine healthy babies
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Speaker 1: were aborted after twenty four weeks, when in most cases
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Speaker 1: they could live outside the roomb. Of course, abort it
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Speaker 1: for psychosocial reasons that it's because the mother was too
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Speaker 1: distressed or and willing to have it. What does that
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Speaker 1: tell you?
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Speaker 19: Look, seventy five percent of late term abortions actually and
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Speaker 19: the life of a healthy baby with a mum who
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Speaker 19: does not face the life threatening risk in those situations
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Speaker 19: where the mum claims a mental health risk, there would
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Speaker 19: be the possibility of delivering those babies alive via emergencies,
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Speaker 19: caesarean or just live delivery. There is absolutely no medical
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Speaker 19: necessity to have a late term abortion for either the
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Speaker 19: mother's health or the woman's health. And so it's just
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Speaker 19: a really appalling situation that we have abortion up to
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Speaker 19: Beth for any reason. I think Andrew Hasty's on the money.
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Speaker 19: I think he's a man with guts. I think he's
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Speaker 19: got courage.
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Speaker 14: I think he knew that.
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Speaker 19: You know, Tory Shepherd and Jacquelin Maalley and all of
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Speaker 19: the left wing press would pile on him, including Susan
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Speaker 19: Lee in his own party, who nobody's going to vote
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Speaker 19: for because she's just laborized, Like why would you vote
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Speaker 19: for Susan Lee if you can vote for Andrew Anthony
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Speaker 19: ALBERINIZI there's just no reason. Andrew Hasty presents a conservative
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Speaker 19: alternative and the liberals need to be conservative otherwise what
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Speaker 19: are they? People will just vote for labor. So I
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Speaker 19: really want to congratulate Andrew Hasty and also the four
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Speaker 19: women in the Senate from the Coalition le Abli, Sarah
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Speaker 19: Henderson Jess Collins and of course the wonderful Just Enterprise.
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Speaker 19: They supported Alex Antick's amendment to remove late term abortions
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Speaker 19: from Baby Prior's bill. The fact that that amendment didn't
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Speaker 19: get up is a real travesty. It's an indictment on
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Speaker 19: where we are right now.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well so the attack on him for being an
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Speaker 1: insensitive mail for raising it. What about the women? What
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Speaker 1: about you who also share this deep concern about what's
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Speaker 1: going on? Jenna, how sorry, we're a short a time.
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Speaker 1: I must have you back because this does need to
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Speaker 1: be talked about. Thank you so much indeed, for your
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Speaker 1: time and the work you do. That's it from me,
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Speaker 1: coming up now, Sherry markson good note,