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NFL Week 6 Reaction: Packers DISMANTLE Cowboys on SNF, Chiefs RB Walker makes MVP case, Browns atop AFC North + Ohio State at Indiana Recap · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: The Volume. What is going on, my people?
• 0:17
  Speaker 2: How are we doing? John Middlecoff, 3NOW Podcast.
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: Hopefully everyone is doing well. Better than the Cowboys, who
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: just got shellacked. on Sunday Night Football.
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: God, that was ugly. Are the Packers back?
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk some Sunday Night Football. We'll talk Kenneth Walker,
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  Speaker 1: the Rams in shambles. We got a lot going on. Today,
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, they were dead until even McCarthy got injured.
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  Speaker 1: The Browns, J.J. McCarthy siding today. Mike McDaniel, seeing some trouble,
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  Speaker 1: as my wife calls him, the silly guy. Chargers are
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  Speaker 1: in shambles. So producer Jackson will fire on. He was
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  Speaker 1: at Indiana, Ohio State yesterday. He's also a diehard Notre
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  Speaker 1: Dame fan. So we had a wild Saturday. But you
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  Speaker 1: guys know the drill. If you listen on Colin's feed,
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  Speaker 1: me and Colin obviously recorded the podcast Sunday. You can
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  Speaker 1: check that out as well. Check us out on Netflix.
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  Speaker 1: After the Rams lost, I did an instant 10-minute reaction,
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  Speaker 1: threw that up on the YouTube page, so you can
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  Speaker 1: go check that out.
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  Speaker 2: And let's just dive into the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I do want to start with what we just witnessed
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday Night Football. And it feels like two teams
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  Speaker 1: going in opposite directions. And let's start with the positive.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a glass half full guy. I try to keep
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  Speaker 1: a smile on my face. I am guilty just as
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  Speaker 1: everyone else was after the Atlanta Falcon game going, this
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  Speaker 1: Packer thing is over. This team stinks. It is amazing sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: When you play a Thursday night game, you take a
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  Speaker 1: deep breath, you come back, you play a division rival
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  Speaker 1: who has a backup quarterback, and you absolutely destroy him.
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  Speaker 1: And you had a pretty simple game plan. Throw deep.
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  Speaker 1: As Kenny Stabler once said, and Tom Hanks signs his
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  Speaker 1: emails as, throw deep, baby. And that's all they are doing.
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  Speaker 1: Just bombs away. And there is no disputing that Jordan Love,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, thoroughly outplayed Dak Prescott tonight. And just looked
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  Speaker 1: really good. I mean, the last two weeks, he's been excellent.
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  Speaker 1: And as someone that is a Matt Golden fantasy holder,
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  Speaker 1: he has been incredible for me. Christian Watson, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the Golden... I would say emergence this year. I've been
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  Speaker 1: a big believer in Watson. As long as he's on
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  Speaker 1: the field, he's a really good player, and he's obviously
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  Speaker 1: having an excellent season. But Golden has been, I would say,
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  Speaker 1: a revelation this year for them. So they have two
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  Speaker 1: weapons that, from a speed perspective, just stretch you. And
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: here's the thing with the Packers. And it was very
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  Speaker 1: evident tonight. Listen, LaFleur had a tough stretch. He did.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it was not looking good. He was shook.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it was not going well. But he does
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  Speaker 1: have a resume of he knows what he's doing. Like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the Sirianni thing right now, right? They got
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  Speaker 1: a million injuries.
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  Speaker 2: He's fucked.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing he can do. He's going the wrong way
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  Speaker 1: down the creek and he doesn't have a paddle. He's
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  Speaker 1: going to fall.
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  Speaker 2: Over the waterfall.
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  Speaker 1: LaFleur calls the plays. LaFleur coaches the quarterback. And here's
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  Speaker 1: the other thing I will give LaFleur credit. He went
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: through a stretch where, like, being a head coach and
• 3:44
  Speaker 1: being the play caller as a head coach is obviously
• 3:46
  Speaker 1: a huge responsibility. But, like, you're ultimately the boss of
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  Speaker 1: the football operation when it comes to the team. Like,
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  Speaker 1: you're in charge of hiring the coaches. And he had
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  Speaker 1: a rough stretch of hiring defensive coordinators. He hit a
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  Speaker 1: home run with Halfley. Jonathan Gannon's a really solid defensive coordinator.
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  Speaker 1: And they've kind of steadied the ship these last two weeks.
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  Speaker 1: They faced Ben Johnson, who I get had a backup quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: but they absolutely punked him. They embarrassed him. And tonight,
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  Speaker 1: we'll get into Brian Schottenheimer here in a second. They
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  Speaker 1: do have a $ 60 million quarterback. They do have two
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  Speaker 1: elite wide receivers. And they backhanded him all night long.
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  Speaker 1: So the coaching staff of LaFleur and Gannon these last
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  Speaker 1: couple weeks... have really steadied the ship. And that's the
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  Speaker 1: thing with football. It's right, like we have seen so
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  Speaker 1: many teams, look at the Rams.
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  Speaker 2: They have fantastic players.
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  Speaker 1: Football has always been about coaching adjustments, coaching messages. The
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  Speaker 1: Saban documentary, I've banged out five episodes in the last
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  Speaker 1: like six days. They had so much talent over the
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  Speaker 1: course of like 15 years. They didn't win it every year.
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  Speaker 2: Hell, some years.
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  Speaker 1: They lost multiple games and they didn't make it to
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  Speaker 1: the national championship game. Other years they made it to
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  Speaker 1: the national championship game and lost in awful fashion. But
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  Speaker 1: the message, the coaching, the scheme, Monday through Friday, the
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  Speaker 1: impact a coach can have, not just game planning, but
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  Speaker 1: setting the tone for the week, demanding the standards. Green
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  Speaker 1: Bay has always had that as an organization. For basically
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  Speaker 1: my entire life, from Favre through now with Jordan Love,
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  Speaker 1: they have been more than competent. And they've done a
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  Speaker 1: really good job because they've always had a quarterback. And
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  Speaker 1: a lot of that period of time, they've had good coaches, right?
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  Speaker 1: From Mike Holmgren to Mike McCarthy, and now LaFleur. Now,
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  Speaker 1: if you were ranking those guys, you would probably have
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  Speaker 1: LaFleur third, but that's a pretty good list. McCarthy's won
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  Speaker 1: a lot of games. Hell, he won a pretty incredible
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  Speaker 1: game today.
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  Speaker 2: Hobbled.
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  Speaker 1: But I've been really, really impressed with the Packers these
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  Speaker 1: last seven days. And here's the thing if you're a
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  Speaker 1: Packer fan. You got reinforcements coming. I don't want to
• 6:03
  Speaker 1: pretend to know what happened with the Josh Jacobs situation. Obviously,
• 6:07
  Speaker 1: if the video ever made it out and it was bad,
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  Speaker 1: I think we'd all agree, night-night game over. And clearly,
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  Speaker 1: his representation sued to have that video not come public.
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  Speaker 1: You would have to give the NFL the benefit of
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  Speaker 1: the doubt. They've been through a situation where a video
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  Speaker 1: went public, and it was one of Rodgers' most embarrassing moments. Now,
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  Speaker 1: they're not the judicial system, right? They don't have access
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  Speaker 1: to things. But I do think they could lay something
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  Speaker 1: out like, hey, man, you need to show us this
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  Speaker 1: video for us to feel comfortable. And clearly they took
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  Speaker 1: him off the list, and now he's coming back. So,
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  Speaker 1: and I saw on Instagram, he's back with the girl.
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  Speaker 1: Not that that means that something didn't happen. Hell, Deshaun
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  Speaker 1: Watson got married. So you just, you never know. But
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  Speaker 1: their big issue on offense has been the running back situation,
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  Speaker 1: which is not great because the guys they have are
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  Speaker 1: not very good.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he is.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, their issue on defense is, well, their pass
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  Speaker 1: rush is not great. Well, they have a $ 40 million
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  Speaker 1: a year pass rusher. who, listen, I completely understand. The episode,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't listen to it, but I read the quotes
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  Speaker 1: when Micah crushed Jaden Daniels. He also discussed why he's
• 7:26
  Speaker 1: been slow playing this. And he says, anytime guys come
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: back from these injuries, you see guys come back a
• 7:33
  Speaker 1: little early, and this is true. You overcompensate. So maybe
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: you tear your Achilles in your other leg. Maybe you
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: pull a calf or a hamstring in your other leg
• 7:42
  Speaker 1: because it's not fully healed. And he has been very
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  Speaker 1: cognizant of that. And he wants to make sure he's 100% healthy.
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  Speaker 1: So I would guess within the next two or three games,
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  Speaker 1: he's back as well. There is not a team in
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  Speaker 1: the league who during the trade deadline could add two
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  Speaker 1: better players than Josh Jacobs and Micah Parsons. So you're 4-2.
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  Speaker 1: You've already hit some highs and some lows. You've been
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  Speaker 1: through some shit as a team, which is a positive.
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  Speaker 1: You don't learn that much from winning. You really don't.
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  Speaker 1: I'd argue winning band-aids everything. When you lose, you really
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: have to kind of look in the mirror. I don't
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  Speaker 1: care whether you're a football team or whether you're a human.
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  Speaker 1: When things are going well in your personal life, in
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  Speaker 1: your professional life, it's not really when you're doing a
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  Speaker 1: lot of introspection.
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  Speaker 2: Get fired.
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  Speaker 1: Go bankrupt. Go broke. Get in the mud. You realize
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  Speaker 1: you got to figure some stuff out. And that's what
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  Speaker 1: the Packers had to do. And now they got reinforcements coming.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not acting like this team just going to make
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl run, but if I'm a Packer fan,
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: for as low as that Atlanta game was, and it was,
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  Speaker 1: and I spent time that night... watching on the internet
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  Speaker 1: some of their local radio call-in shows. I'm a sicko
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  Speaker 1: like that. I really enjoyed it. And it was entertaining
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: because it was really ugly. And there was a lot
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: of venom and people were pissed off because it's kind
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: of like Alabama football or something. Their expectations and standards
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  Speaker 1: were really high. They don't expect to witness that. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's one of the worst home losses in the modern
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  Speaker 1: era of Lambeau Field. These last couple weeks have been
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a muscle flex offensively. Like, we
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: kind of got our swag back. And to win in
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: this league, you got to have good coaching. They do
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  Speaker 1: have a coach who's been to the playoffs a bunch.
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  Speaker 1: They do have a defensive coordinator who was an assistant
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  Speaker 1: for a team that went to the Super Bowl. And
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  Speaker 1: they got really good players. Now, offensive line, we'll see
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  Speaker 1: how that looks. You know, once Jacobs come back, how
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: many yards they run for tonight? 57. Like, it's just
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  Speaker 1: not going to be good enough against the better opponents.
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  Speaker 1: But I do think you can be bullish right now
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  Speaker 1: on the Packers. On the flip side, Jerry has a
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: major problem. His coaching staff's a joke. And I'm kicking myself.
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  Speaker 1: I picked the Cowboys to win this division. Obviously, they
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: still can. I mean, obviously, the Eagles lost. They've lost
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  Speaker 1: half their team. Their season's over. I mean, they are fucked.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not even blaming Sirianni at this point, even
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  Speaker 1: though clearly he's not doing a great job. It would
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: be very difficult to win with their situation. The Giants,
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  Speaker 1: it got so bad today against the Saints, who have
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: been horrendous. J.J. McCarthy had to play a lot.
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  Speaker 2: He actually had some moments.
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  Speaker 1: But I would say this about the Cowboys. This coaching
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: staff is not going to work. Zero chance. Because clearly
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator is completely over his head. How we've
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: seen as a lot of young coordinators who get put
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: in these positions on teams with playoff expectations are. Now
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: their head coach and their office is sputtering like this.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, tonight was embarrassing. Now, you can say, hey,
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: maybe some of it's just Dak had a bad night. True.
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  Speaker 2: He wasn't good.
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  Speaker 1: But isn't it on the head coach, who's the offensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 1: to get some plays dialed up to just get them
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  Speaker 1: in rhythm? I mean, they were down 17-0 at half,
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: and honestly, it did not feel that close. The game
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: we all witnessed in the first half felt more like 35-0.
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  Speaker 1: They got curb stomped. And based on their defense, when
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: you're down 17-0, you're not coming back from that. even
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: if Dak would have played better than he did in
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  Speaker 1: the second half, they were never winning that game. They
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: are not built to get down big. Their defense just
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: isn't good enough. They're the only team in the league
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  Speaker 1: that has the talent in which they do have that
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  Speaker 1: every single play, a guy's just like wide open. It's
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: not even a fair fight. And I don't think.
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: Anything's necessarily going to change in the short term.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I don't expect any of these guys to get
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  Speaker 1: fired in the middle of the season.
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  Speaker 2: But.
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  Speaker 1: Even if they make, let's say they win the division
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: at 7-10 or 8-9. This is what you're doing? And listen,
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  Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect. Brian Schottenheimer grinded in
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: the league, turned down some head coaching opportunities when he
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: was a hot name, and then his career completely derailed.
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: And it took him a long time to get it back.
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: And whether or not they should have hired him in
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: the first place, clearly up for debate. No one else
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: in the league was hiring him to be their head coach,
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: but Jerry did. So he got his opportunity. And now
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: it's kind of showing everyone this is why he wasn't
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: getting opportunities. Because what we just witnessed was an embarrassment.
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  Speaker 2: And at the end of the.
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  Speaker 1: Day, truly the offense, like he's an offensive coordinator at heart.
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  Speaker 1: The defense, that's on him and Jerry for hiring a
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: young coach.
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  Speaker 2: But when the.
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  Speaker 1: Offense looks that bad, and now Dak's trending in the
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: wrong direction, that's on him. Like, hey, Jerry, listen, you're
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: in your early mid-80s. It's not like you have that
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: much longer left. But let's say you do have several years,
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: and I'm not rooting for you to go. Hopefully you've
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: got a long time. You just keeping this going, having
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  Speaker 1: coaches like, at least I'll say this about Mike McCarthy.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: When you hired Mike McCarthy, that was a real hire.
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: That was a guy that for over a decade, every
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: single year, the expectation was to try to be in
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: the NFC Championship and make a Super Bowl run. And
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: they went to a lot of championship games. They won
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of divisions. You knew that guy knew how
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: to win. And then obviously they underperformed in the playoffs,
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: but for three straight years, they went 12-5. And they were,
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: for the first two of those 12-5s, they were a
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  Speaker 1: real Super Bowl contender. They shit the bed in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: And Dak played poorly. But this is... Whatever that was,
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: that was credible. Your head coach was Mike McCarthy and
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: your defensive coordinator was Dan Quinn. Think about that. Say
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: that out loud. That's a real coaching staff. Again, Mike
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: McCarthy hired.
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  Speaker 2: For the Steelers.
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  Speaker 1: Bunch of injuries today, getting their ass kicked on the road.
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  Speaker 1: He literally gets injured and they still win in their 4-2. Now,
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: are the Steelers winning the Super Bowl? No. Do they
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: have a very good chance to make the playoffs with
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  Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy?
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  Speaker 2: They do.
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  Speaker 1: Look at the Cowboys. The only reason they have a
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: chance is because the division is such a joke. They
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: are extremely lucky. If Jackson Dart had never gotten injured,
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: the Giants might be running away with this thing. But
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: their quarterback situation just makes every game losable. Where the Cowboys, like,
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: you have a $ 60 million quarterback. You have CeeDee Lamb
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: and George Pickens. You have Javante, you have like real
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: offensive players. You've drafted for like five straight years, players
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: on the offensive line. How could you go up until
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: basically the last couple minutes of the game, had seven
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: points on the board?
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: How's that possible?
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  Speaker 1: Against a defense that throughout the season hadn't been that good?
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: Who Micah Parsons is sitting on the sideline in sweats.
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  Speaker 1: And I get it, it's a road game. But this
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: is the middle of October. This isn't late December where
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: it's freezing cold and snow winning and sleeting and frigid winds.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: That was as embarrassing of a Cowboy game as we've
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: seen all year, probably the most. When you factor in like,
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: that was your effort? Sunday night football, that was your effort?
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: You'd be like, well, John, they just lost to, what's
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: his name? Jalen Daniels in Tampa on Thursday night football.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Very true. But you go Thursday night football, a little weird.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: And the one thing you say about Todd Bowles is like,
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: pretty good defensive coordinator in these last couple weeks has
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: been pretty good. And your defense wasn't like, your defense
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: actually was decent today.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: I just, I'm at a loss.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: And I don't have like, hey, you got to hire
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  Speaker 1: this guy. But you can't, if you just fired all
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: these people tomorrow and had like Sean McDermott or Mike
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Tomlin or just real coaches. There's a big difference. I
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: saw Raheem Morris talk about this tonight, or I mean
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: this week, because he was asked, do you.
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  Speaker 2: Want to be a head coach again?
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Raheem's no dummy. Like, yeah, not everyone's made to be
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: a head coach. It's so true. And I've been saying forever,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: in a lot of industries, you're constantly climbing the corporate
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: ladder because there's a big difference in.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Pay, right?
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: 50K to 80K to 150K to maybe $ 275K with some bonuses.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: These are huge, life-changing amounts of money as you're working
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  Speaker 1: your way up. And the NFL, being an OC or DC,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: pays millions of dollars. And right now, they have Schottenheimer
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: at best as an offensive coordinator.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Right now, he's doing a shitty job.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: And clearly, defensively, they brought Mike Pettin because they were
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: just completely lost at sea. Meanwhile, the other side of
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: the field... Say what you want and you can nitpick him.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: You can nitpick every coach. You can nitpick Belichick. There
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: were some years if social media had been around, Bill
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Walsh and Bill Parcells would have been getting shit on.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: It comes with the territory. But the one thing you
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: can't deny is Brian Schottenheimer and Christian Parker against LeFleur
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: and Gannon. It's not a fair fight. It's not a
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: fair fight at all. And we just witnessed it. It
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: literally wasn't. And you can't tell me tonight, the players
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: on the field, there's any difference. They got a good quarterback.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: You got a good quarterback. They got some wide receivers.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: You got some wide receivers. Questionable personnel on defense. Questionable
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: personnel on defense. Hell, you took some of their offensive
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: linemen or defensive linemen. I mean, Micah Parsons is not playing.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs is not playing. And they beat the shit
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: out of you like that? Especially on a night where
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: You're at the hotel. You watch the Eagles just have
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: no shot against the Panthers. You saw the Giants under
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: the final scores close. The game was not at one
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: point in time. It was like 34-10. What an embarrassing
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: performance by the Cowboys. I'm recording this right after the game.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Who knows what Jerry's saying? I'm sure he's running his.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Mouth in the locker room.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: But words are so hollow in this day and age.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Words to me mean nothing. It's like all these political ads.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: None of this shit means anything. The only thing that
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: means anything in life is what you actually do. So
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Jared can talk and talk and talk. He can do
• 18:36
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• 18:39
  Speaker 1: It's like the same old shit. Well, he just fires
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Brian Chattanooga. Who would he hire? Probably like some version
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: of that again. Because honestly, McCarthy was somewhat of an
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: outlier of his hires recently. It was Jason Garrett and
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Who helped?
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Jason Garrett is clearly better than Brian Schottenheimer. I mean,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: this is the worst of the bunch. This is really,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: really bad. And, you know, you see some of these
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: guys living on their family name. This Schottenheimer brand is getting.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Worse by the week.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: And that was rough.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: It really was.
• 19:15
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• 21:08
  Speaker 2: You know, it's funny.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: We'll see how pretty looks Monday Night Football against Commanders.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: My guess is, depending on what offensive guys play around
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: them as wide receivers, probably going to look pretty good.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Their defense sucks. Josh Allen is simply amazing.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, made a play today that's like an all-time
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: highlight reel play for himself. I think with Lamar being injured,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: it does feel like kind of a two-man race as
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: of right now. Again, long way to go. But when
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: you say MVP, Brock Purdy, Josh Allen, I do think
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker is right in that mix right now. There's
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: a stat that no player in his first five games
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: has rushed for more yards. It was like, better write down,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: 665 yards. But the most amazing stat, and this is
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: so evident when you watch the Chiefs, 369 yards of
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: that are after contact. His power, speed, balance on contact,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: explosive nature once he hits somebody is an eye-opening experience.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: This Chiefs team, you would say Mahomes- If you think
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: about the Andy Reid era in Kansas City, he gets there,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: the big move he makes right away is to get
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Alex Smith, and it just makes them credible. Because they
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: actually sneaky had some players. And I think Andy would
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: be the first to tell you. When he inherited that
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: awful team, they had guys like Tomball Lee, they had
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Derek Johnson, they had Jamal Charles, they had Eric Berry.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: They had some real players on the team. And they
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: got a quarterback, and they just stabilized the operation. Obviously,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: the moment, then they add over the next couple years,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, Tyreek Hill, and they add elite offensive skill.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: They signed Jeremy Macklin during that period of time. And
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: then the moment they got Mahomes and insert him, they
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: go to a completely different level. And Chris Jones, right?
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Same deal with Travis and Tyreek Hill. So you would
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: say Mahomes is the most important guy to vault you
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: to the next level. It does feel like this Kenneth
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Walker signing now, how long, you know, when you sign
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: a running back, unlike some other positions, this could.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Be a year.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, you would doubt he's going to have three
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: straight years of 1,800 yards a year. You've seen that's
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: very difficult to do. But if he can maintain this
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: this year, they are going to be extremely hard to
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: beat in the AFC. Josh Allen feels like an NBA
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: player right now. Like LeBron on some of the Cavs
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: teams early on in his career. Hell, some of those
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: teams made runs. One made to the finals. Jokic on
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: some of these Denver teams. When he is on, they
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: can beat everybody. But he's got to play his A game.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Because as you saw today, the Raiders don't have wide receivers.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: They have two sweet tight ends. They don't even have
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: a running game. And they were kind of keeping it
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: close because they can score on you because their defense
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: isn't very good. It's just Josh Allen, James Cook, and
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: some other skill guys. You watch the Chiefs. This is
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: a throwback to what they were before last year's disastrous season.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: They're a physical defense. And they've added some youth. They've
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: infused the young core of Delane, Mason Thomas.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Thomas R. Thomas Mason. Mason Thomas.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I always get that name mixed up.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: The kid from Oklahoma. Karloftis. They still got Chris Jones.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: They have the mentality there with Spaggs. that they are
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: just going to fucking hit you and hit you hard.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: But to me, their physical nature this year stands out
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: with Kenneth Walker, who has been elite. It is, it's
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: eye-opening how good he is. I mean, he is, I
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: text someone this, his impact this year or right now, again,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: we got a long way to go to make this
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: comp a parallel. But the moment the Eagles signed Saquon
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: a couple years ago and he ran for 2,000 yards
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: and they won the Super Bowl, this feels exactly like that. Now,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Saquon did it all year long. So one red flag
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: with this guy has always been just health in the NFL.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: But if he could stay healthy, every game looks the same.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: You can just chalk him up for 20, 135, and
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: two touchdowns. And one of the touchdown runs is like,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: that was badass. That's how it feels. And when I
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: had Coach Reed on during the offseason, I joked around.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: I said, you guys going to lead the league in rushing?
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I didn't mean yards. I meant attempts. Because one, I
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: didn't think they were going to lead the league in yards.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: But just because as a group, they wouldn't rush it.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: He doesn't rush it that much. That's always been, he
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: likes to pass.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: He likes to pass.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: What happened today? 20 rush attempts. Maybe he ended up
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: with 19. But Mahomes, keep that attempt under 30.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Keep it 25 to.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: The low 30s. They don't want to do what Sam
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Darnold did the other night because Mahomes was doing that
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: and tore his ACL. You're going to have an individual
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: game where you might have to. And today, playing the Chargers,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: what a joke. But if they can play like that,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I just don't see how anyone beats them in the AFC.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: The only two teams that would have a shot, maybe
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: three we'll have to see on the Bengals, which we
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: got some question marks on, is like the Ravens team
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: with Lamar. Again, he would have to play a playoff
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: game against them, which he hasn't done yet in terms
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: of that level. And Josh, I've seen him play good
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: playoff games against the Chiefs, but his defense isn't good enough.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: And I get asked a lot of these questions in DMs,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: like who can we trade for, trade to the Lions? Like,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: As of right now, I haven't seen any names like, oh,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: this name's going to change. Change the course of the
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: league if you land this guy during late October. And
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: maybe that changes. You just never know. But could Pukunukuwa
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: get traded or something? And if you're the Chiefs, would
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: you trade for Pukunukuwa? Might have to think about it.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: But man, Kenneth Walker has been incredible. I... I've said
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: forever that in my lifetime, the way people talk about
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Dan Marino as just this best pure thrower, the best
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: pure thrower I've ever seen is Aaron Rodgers. And I've
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: seen him live countless times in his prime. It was
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: like watching Mickey Mantle or something. Just how good and
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: dominant he was. He made the best throw I've ever
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: seen live, and I've been to, I don't know, 50
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: to 70 NFL games. I'd have to go back and
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: kind of get a rough estimate. I've been to a
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: lot of NFL games. And his throw a candlestick running
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: to his left to Jordy Nelson is the best throw
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I've ever seen live. Sometimes Rodgers highlights come on my
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: feed on Instagram. It's always in there. But this version
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: of him is a lot different version of that version.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Because he can't move I don't want to say he's
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: a sitting duck. He's not like Tom Brady in Tampa
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: or Peyton Manning his last couple years. But he definitely
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: is more susceptible to getting lit up. And I hammered
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: the Bucs today. Not because I believed in their undrafted
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: free agent. I just went, well, he's playing on the
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: road against a team that has a long rest because
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: they played on Thursday night against a defensive coordinator that
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: kind of got his swag back last week and blitzes nonstop.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: And then through the first three quarters, I'm like, this
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: guy is getting the shit kicked out of him. You know,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: he got sacked, I think, five times officially. I feel
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: like he got hit 15, 20. It felt like he
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: was getting hit every other play. And at 42 years old,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: with hundreds of millions of dollars post-tax, put away somewhere
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: in the market, invested in places, he is filthy rich.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking, what is he doing this for?
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: And his love of football and playing, just like battling through,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: is really, really impressive. And then as the game went on,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: they're down 16-3. I'm like, this is the easiest bet
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: of the day. They just come storming back. I think
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: their last three drives were like touchdown, field goal, field goal.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I wrote it down.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Three straight drives. three straight field goal drives, and he
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: led the game-winning touchdown drive. I think it went touchdown,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: field goal, field goal. Then he led a touchdown drive
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: in overtime, making plays, keeping plays alive with his legs.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: just being in complete control. That was an extremely impressive win.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: And I get it, they're playing an undrafted free agent,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: but against that defense, get your ass kicked. Mike McCarthy
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: got hurt. He could not go into the locker room
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: at halftime. He went to the blue tent. He's limping around.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: At one point, you're like, did he tear his Achilles?
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Did he just roll his ankle? Everyone's making fun of
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: him on the internet. But your head coach got hurt.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: But that kind of was indicative of what you were witnessing.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: It felt like they were getting just throttled. And then
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: it was just like, DK. Honestly, DK kind of stepped up.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Funneled in the ball.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Funneled the rookie Jermaine from Alabama the ball. And they
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: just came storming back. Now, they needed some help. The
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: undrafted free agent rookie was atrocious. Made a nice actual
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: play on the last drive of regular season to get
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: the game tied, or of regulation. But on the aggregate,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter in overtime, was not great. Which
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: enabled them to come storming back. And if they had played,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: like let's say they had played like a normal Baker,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: they might have been down like 28-3. It might have
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: been too big of a gap to overcome.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: But they weren't. And they did.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: So it's like some of you guys, the big Steeler fans,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: like you were so negative about Rodgers after the Cincinnati games.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a lot of, you know, Jalen
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Warren definitely made some nice. Today was impressive.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: I don't even.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I have to look up his numbers. But, like, down
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: the stretch, he made some big plays. That was just...
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: For a guy his age to be doing it like that,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: fucking awesome.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, it really is.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: You know, we say this like playing a little kid's game.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of guys in the NFL and
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: just pro sports in general kind of take it for granted.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: It does really feel like he's basking in this last year.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: You know? And just.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Playing tough. And they are going to France, which feels
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: like it's in a complete meltdown.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: We're going to get some quotes out of that man
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: this week. I'll promise you that.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: The other story, speaking of the Chargers, who got their
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: ass kicked by the Chiefs, Florio floated that a lot
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: of people think that McDaniels is going to get fired
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: this week.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: What a disaster. I mean, what a disaster.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Of epic proportions. And the rumor, at least, that he
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: wrote is that Adam Gase could take over. When you
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: have to fire your offensive coordinator and go with Adam Gase,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: you know things are bleak. You know times are tough.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: This was a team last year that, despite all the injuries,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: won 11 games.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: And was a playoff team. Hell, weren't they the 5 seed?
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: How is this possible?
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: There was one series today close to the red zone.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: I don't even think.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Their skill guys are trying here. Maybe they're just not good,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: but it looks like a lifeless group.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I'm not one to.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Anyone that gets fired, these guys are millionaires. They've signed
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: multiple year contracts. They continue to get paid. Mike's still
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: getting paid from Miami. He could have seven mortgages and
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: pay them off. Hell, he wouldn't get. He's at the
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: point now. My wife, pre-Jack, heavy real estate.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: That was her world.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: You hit a certain price point of homes. She got
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: into the luxury world, started showing some of these homes.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: The interest rate doesn't come up. Why? Because they pay cash.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel, he gets shit canned tomorrow.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: He's fine.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: But he was atrocious this year. And I mention this
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: to Coward. You watch that Saban doc. Saban was pretty
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: desperate in the middle of the Alabama era. And he
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: hired Lane Kiffin and everyone thought he was nuts. And
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: it kind of resurrected their operation and kept them rolling.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: It was like, how's Nick Saban going to work with
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin? Nick was yelling at him constantly, but it
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: kind of worked. They were pretty explosive on offense. This
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: has been the polar opposite. This is the worst-case scenario
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: to that type hire. It's like, this guy is not
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: your type guy.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: I don't care.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: We need a spark. We need to just mix it up.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Sometimes mixing it up, like in other industries, you go bankrupt.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: That's what it feels like with the Chargers. The Browns
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: are 4-2. God, that game was ugly. The Ravens need
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Lamar back desperately. I mean, they avoided disaster against Atlanta,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: but man, they need him back. I mean, the Browns won.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: I think Deshaun averaged almost a little over four yards,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: a pass attempt. That was a physical game. The Browns
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: and Ravens, this is good defenses. This is why I
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: love the Browns this week. Marlon Humphrey said it like
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: three or four days ago. Things get weird there. They're
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: up 10-0 at.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: One point in time.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: You're like, are they going to win this thing like 20-3? No,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: not in Cleveland. Cleveland against divisional opponents at home is
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: fucking dangerous. And for everyone that made fun of them,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: and who knows how many games they ultimately win, Top
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Monk has done a good job.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, they play hard.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. You talk about potential all-time fleecing.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: I did right after the afternoon games. I just did
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: an instant reaction, and I threw it up on YouTube.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: To the Ram situation, which.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Probably it is more embarrassing than the Cowboys because they
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: got Sean McVay. They traded multiple first-round picks this offseason
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: for players. Trent McDuffie, Miles Garrett, they used a first-round
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: pick on a luxury item, a quarterback that had like
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: eight good games in college in his life. If you
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: don't think that Sean, like, I would say it's a
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: 50-50 coin flip right now. Sean McVay's the coach next year.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Not because he's going to get fired, because he's like, deuces,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I'm out. They don't have a first round pick. The
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Browns have it. What if this season keeps going off
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: the rails and all of a sudden it's like, they
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: just went 6-11 and the Browns have their ninth pick
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: in the draft. What did the Chiefs go last year?
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: 6-11?
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: They drafted ninth.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's, Man, that's talking about a kick.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: In the nuts. What do you think Carly Ursae wrote
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: in her notebook today?
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Everyone's fired? The Colts lost to the Titans at home.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Like, at least for the Rams' sake. When the Cardinals,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: they do have some good players. Offensively, Trey McBride, Wilson,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: loves her. But, you know, Jacoby's one game.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Throughout his career. To lose to the Titans at home?
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: What were they up? 10-0? And a huge reason you lost?
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Because your punter got a punt block and destroyed and
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: they walked into the end zone? I just don't know
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: what else you could write besides these guys are all fired.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: We suck. Get out of my building. Leave me the
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: fuck alone.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Go away.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Because that is as embarrassing of a loss as you're
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: going to see in the NFL. The reality is that's
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: the Colts though. One thing they've hung their hat on
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: is they've beat those type teams. When they stop beating
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: those type teams, because they never beat the good teams,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: it's just a wrap. Like Chris Ballard, Shane Steichen. Listen,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I know this year's going bad, but when you look
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: at the coaching options, if Sirianni, because the Eagles are
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: probably going to lose a lot from here on in,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: with his blood clot, and now McKee's in there, they
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: have a bunch.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Of random guys.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: It felt like every time I looked up, a guy's
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: laying there dead on the field. I haven't seen the
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: update on Nolan Smith. Hopefully he's okay. But he got
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: crunched by two guys that hit the ground. I mean,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Bryce Young had to stood there right away and like
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: said a prayer for him. It is unraveling in Philly.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: And it's very, very difficult for Sirianni just to kind
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: of hold off the negative momentum that's coming from all angles.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: And they're just going to keep losing. So let's say
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: he does get fired and everyone else gets fired. It's
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: not like this is a great coaching class. And even
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: some of the big-name guys that are out of it,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: like Tomlin and Sean McDermott.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Who worked in Philly.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: My first year in Philly was our defensive coordinator. Eagles
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: don't hire defensive guys. They want offense. Andy Reid, Chip Kelly,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, Sirianni. Since Lurie has been there and started
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: hiring guys, it's all been on the offensive side of
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: the football. I can't imagine that will change. So to me, like,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: who are your best options? Who are the great up-and-coming coordinators?
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Wolf C.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe some guys, Idzik, you know, Clay Kubiak.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: But Clay Kubiak hasn't even called plays yet. Those are two,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: you know, Davis Webb.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: What?
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I just have to think that Shane Syke, he's been
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: in that building, how he's comfortable with them. I'm not
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: saying it's like ideal, but you can kind of see
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: that working its way there. Now, can you hire him
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: coming off a year if they win five or six games?
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Could you blame it all on Daniel Jones?
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: I could have told you that.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: You, hey guys, he just tore his Achilles. He has
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: a broken leg. You're going to give him like $ 90
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: million guaranteed. Who are you bidding against? I've never understood
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: the Daniel Jones contracts because whenever they happen, you go,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: who are you bidding against? It's one thing when you
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: like a guy, you're like, hey, we'll overpay a little bit.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: We like this guy. But in quarterback situations, even on
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: short-term contracts, it's like, where are you worried he's going
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: to go? The only reason you have him is because
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: he signed with you for like $ 15 million because the
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Vikings thought they could get him back for like $ 10 million.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: And then it's like, okay, we'll have to match the offer.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, I'm not even staying. That was
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: the last time he was a free agent. So you
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: think after a year where he literally tore his Achilles,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: you have to bid against him? Which I do respect.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: If I was going to have someone represent me, not
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: named like Drew Rosenhaus or Jimmy Sexton, if I was
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: a college coach, I'd want Daniel Jones' representation. Because those
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: guys have, even Cousins, it's like, well, Cousins made a
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: bunch of money. A lot of the years, like, God,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: he's putting up big stats. He's like a solid quarterback.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Daniel Jones would, couldn't even dream of being half the
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: player that Cousins was for the majority of his career.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Yet every time he's in a contract negotiation, he basically
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: looks at the GM, he looks at the organization, and
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: he says, bend over, because I'm about to give it
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: to you. And that's what he does every single time.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: And he takes complete advantage of it and he comes
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: out the winner. And the loser always is the team
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: that signs him. It's happened time and time and time again.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: And he's, you know, when it's all said and done,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: it's like, how many games does this guy win? Well,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: he's like way under 500.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: How much money did he make?
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, $ 250 million. It's like, what the fuck? I mean,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: it's going to be unfathomable when it's all said and done.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: His record production is, next to his money with multiple teams.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: It's one thing if like one team make, obviously the
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Tua situation, the Kyler situation, you know, a team drafts
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: a guy high. He's up to multiple people. It's, it's insane.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Anything else on the National Football League today? At one
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: point in time today, I had these, one of her friends,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: one of her good friends, parents, I think when we
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: had Jack sent us some stuff. So I think they
• 42:05
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• 42:10
  Speaker 1: like in his 80s, great guy. Former vet. Very successful guy.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Still works out in great shape. Played football at Michigan.
• 42:19
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• 42:22
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• 42:25
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• 42:26
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• 42:28
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• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Energy kind of uh electrolyte packets that also has b12
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: so it kind of wakes you up i had to
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: take like three of those a day i'm just i'm
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: just like watching these games i'm drinking coffee taking b12s
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: i'm turning the ac up in the office to like
• 42:47
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• 42:50
  Speaker 1: you cannot just take a nap in.
• 42:51
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• 42:54
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• 43:03
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• 44:15
  Speaker 1: let's jump over to college because I would say that Saturday.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Was one of the greatest Saturdays in years. I mean,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: it was just so entertaining. And it also speaks to
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: the 2014 playoff. Everyone is freaking out.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: This is football.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: When I played high school football, every game mattered. And
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: we were going nowhere.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: College football, I played at Fresno State.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: We were never going to more than the New Mexico Bowl.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Every game felt like the Super Bowl. That's the way
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: the sport is.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: But Jackson.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: who somehow made his way to the Indiana-Ohio State game.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Bro, look at this tan line real quick. Can I
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: show you?
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Look at this tan line right here. Well, do you
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: see the videos of Cignetti after the game? He was
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: red as shit. Was the sun shining?
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, beaming hard, man. Well, I'm walking up in the stadium.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: I'm like, man, it's cold as can be. I'm shivering.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: It's like 55 degrees. Shade goes away. Clouds goes away.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: And that sun was beaming. That's what I thought watching
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: the second interception from Julian Sane. I thought maybe Jeremiah
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: got caught by the sun and slowed down.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: And then you watch the replay of it. No, he
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: just airmailed the shit out of him.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: So.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: overall great game that stadium needs an upgrade desperately but
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: they didn't expect to be you know winning this early so.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Well i think you kind of noticed.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: It like last night with byu with indiana you know
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: when you go from like uh tennessee or michigan or
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: like the big big boys and then you just go
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: to the next level it's not quite the same but
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: uh my takeaway from that game is like I think
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Indiana is pretty good.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, their defense was fantastic.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Quarterback was all over the map a little bit. So
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: was saying, I mean, both quarterbacks, I would say, and
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of people reiterate this Julian saying
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: left with on a sling to me, a sling in.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: College is much.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: They are, they try to be a little more secretive
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: when it comes to injuries than like the pros that
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: everything gets about, which like Schefter rap sheet. I think
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: it's fair to assume that, like, did he break his clavicle?
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Did he break a bone in his arm?
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Like, you know, Ryan Day says after the game he's
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: going to miss several games. Like, we might not see
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: him again for a while. Like, it could be a season.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: They would be kind of fucked. I mean, the guy
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: they brought in looked kind of tiny.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: I saw he's like 5'10, 5'11.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Because I was expecting, one, I didn't know the quarterback
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: change happened because.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: At Indiana they don't show replays.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: It's an old stadium. It's a very old stadium. Their
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: bathroom has like eight urinals and like one stall.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: I didn't even pee. I didn't drink. I wanted to drink.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: I couldn't because I was going to miss the game.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: But back to the quarterback.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: They have like the tub where everyone pees into the
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: kind of the trough.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: I didn't even go in because the line was so long.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: My dad went in.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: And I was, you know, you go to these stadiums,
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: you see the female line. You're like, okay, like that's long,
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: but the guy's got to be quicker.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: No. So I, you know, you couldn't use the restroom, but.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: I was expecting Taven St.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Clair because he was the five-star freshman guy that they
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: brought in, and you kind of heard some controversy from
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: some Ohio State fans maybe he would replace, saying.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: But you're right. It felt like when he was in
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: the game, in all these big games, he continues to fold.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: And part of it's got to do with the offensive
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: line that has made no improvement from last year. No
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: improvement from last year.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: For Indiana to get those two guys, Daly and the
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: other guy, Tucker, coming back with that fifth year, you
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: saw the impression, the impact from those guys. I was
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: stunned to see it looked like a completely different Indiana
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: defense from last week against Nebraska. Maybe that's the mobile quarterback.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: You saw Georgia struggle with a mobile quarterback against Auburn.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: But for their ability just to rush three or four
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: guys and get to the quarterback and then that little
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: high low they ran with Jeremiah Smith, who was talking
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: shit after the game saying they had to double him.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: It's like, well, yeah, no crap. You're the best receiver
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: in the country. Like, no crap we're going to double you.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: But they came out with their plan.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: But I just think for Indiana, the sky's the limit
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: for them because if your quarterback can just get more consistent,
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: and I was a little surprised in person, Joshua was
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: a little shorter than I thought.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: He's like 6'1, and I thought he was maybe like 6'2, maybe.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Plays a little taller, but just missed a couple throws
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: in the middle of the field where you have Charlie
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Becker who can catch anything in a radius, and he
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: couldn't even catch those balls in the middle of the field.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Some of those throws, like, You could have been up
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: 14-3 after that interception.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: You're driving.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: He misses the corner route from the tight end. They
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: have to go with the field goal. Hits off the post.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: That moment, it was like Ohio State was going to...
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: That was bad. That was really bad. And then the
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: second one, which I watched the broadcast back and Gus
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: Johnson said pure. When it went up in the air,
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: it was the worst kick I've ever seen in my life.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: It felt like it wasn't even going to make it
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: to the goal line. It was so bad.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: So just some inconsistent fourth down calls from them, but
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: um yeah man i.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Just i'm trying i'm trying to think i was at
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: game seven of the warriors lebron game when lebron won
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: and i remember stunned people leaving like you just couldn't
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: even say anything when that ball's thrown and he steps
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: out of bounds and you're just leaving the crowd like
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: did the whole play could you hear a pin drop
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: in the crowd?
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, but it was like a delayed, maybe like
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: 10 seconds. I was losing my shit because I was
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: obviously at the game. You know, anytime you're at a
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: home game, support the home crowd. He was wide ass open.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: I just assumed that he was going to get his
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: feet in. I didn't know until you watched it back
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: how much flair the pass had. Like, I thought it
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: was on a direct line that it was going to
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: be in balance. It was kind of like... a little
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: to the outside, a little to the out of bounds.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: And it's kind of a 50-50 where Marsh, if he
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: kind of stays on that red line, understands where he
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: is late hands, he can make that adjustment or even
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: turn around. You could blame Josh Hoover, but they brought
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: like seven or eight guys. The fact that he even
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: got the ball off was one thing. It was fourth
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: and three, like you had 115 left. If you're Signetti,
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: you could have maybe ran a slant or a little
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: out route. That was one thing I was a little
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: critical on Indiana was some of these third and three,
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: third and fours, Their corners.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: At Ohio State are horrendous. Not great. And you've got
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: two really great receivers.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: I'm surprised in those situations it felt like they were
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: too predicated on running the ball too much, which I
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: get for Indiana. But when Ohio State is dominating the
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: inside run the entire game, I just think you say,
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: fuck it, and let's just throw it to those two
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: wide receivers. I saw Todd McShay and them talking about
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: it the other day, and I want to ask you
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: this question. is would you rather have Nick Marsh and
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: Charlie Becker or just Jeremiah Smith? And they were talking
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: about that before the game, and you saw the impact
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: of having those two guys versus one. Like, Jeremiah's great,
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: but Indiana showed today, at least that game, that you
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: can double-team him in a way, but it was impressive
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: for Indiana's defense to still have positioning and still have
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: the numbers inside, just do the high-low with one receiver.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Cignetti's OC is Mike Shanahan, I think.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: I forget the defense. Who's the defensive coordinator?
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: Brian Haynes. Brian Haynes.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: If I could get Brian Haynes and their personnel, I
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: would rather– like having the two wide receivers against the
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: high-level teams, you take the two receivers. Because Jeremiah Smith, okay,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: number one pick in the draft.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: What's Becker?
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: Top 10, top 12, top 15.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Like he's an elite prospect too. What's Marsh?
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Marsh. Top 40 player, top 50 player. Like he's Keon Coleman.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't know.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Like he's, he's a legit NFL prospect too. Like Henry's
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: a good example. He's a true freshman, right? Cause he
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: was at a modern day last year, whatever. You could
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: tell physically he's really talented, but he caught the ball
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: a couple of times and then he'd kind of look like,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: He probably will be really sweet one day.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the third down catch was sweet. That third and
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: 15 catch on the sideline.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Got a lot there, but you would say he is
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: not nearly on the level of Smith's one. The other
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: two got Becker's two and Marsh's three. There's a drop-off
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: to his playing style to those guys. So I think
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: in the big-ass games, if I have an elite defensive coordinator,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: I can just neutralize you a little bit. What do
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: you have, four for 68? But they were like, play us.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: There was a dude below him.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: There was a dude above him.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: It was hard.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Majority of those yards were on that one throw on
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: the fourth one.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: I felt like the ball was in the air for
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: an eternity. For an eternity.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: And I give Indiana's DBs credit, too. There were some
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: of them where they were hip for hip with Jeremiah
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: Smith breaking some passes or even the end zone, Jamari Sharp,
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: who had the game-winning interception last year for Indiana. If
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: just Hoover can just relax, if he can just calm
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: down in some way, they can get a running game going.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: They can run the ball.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Early in the game, the first drive, you're like, bro,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: take a deep breath. A couple balls sailed on me. Like,
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: you need to calm down. Then he did kind of
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: calm down, and then he would have spurts again where he's–
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: he was just a roller coaster. We're saying it was just–
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: he's not as good as Hoover, I don't think. I mean,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: is that fair being their life?
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: I think Hoover– I mean, it's interesting. Does Ohio State–
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: because Julian Sane has another year. Every big game he's playing,
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: he needs to throw one or two interceptions.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: And he didn't really.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: Move that much in this game. He was locking on Jeremiah,
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: which I get. He's the best receiver in the country. But, like,
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: let's use other options. I think they really got some
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: issues at quarterback for Iowa State, especially when now you
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: have a backup. You're about to play USC in a
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: couple weeks where their defense sucks.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: The one thing is a lot.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Of– you know, like most of these quarterbacks– I wasn't
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: super dialed into the Miami game.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: Clearly Mets is pretty solid.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Trinidad was, I mean, I just, you just look at
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: the stats was, yeah, I watched a couple of highlights
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: of the first couple of drive. I mean, he was
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: pretty dialed in, but like Gunner Stockton, awful game, you know,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Russell and Bama disaster. You know, you could just with
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: all these guys at any moment, it could just be
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: a nightmare for this entire class.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Arch, obviously disaster. I mean, hell he got outplayed by
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: the backup, you know, uh, for Florida.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: So, um, That was a pretty cool game to attend.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: Every game I've gone to, some weird stuff's happened. Me
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: and my dad go to a different game every year.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: In 2023, I went to Michigan and Ohio State.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Your boy knows a little ball, you know, and, and, and, uh,
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: my grandpa went to Indiana.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: So he's just like on planet earth, like on the
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: moon did not think in his whole lifetime, he would
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: experience an Indiana national championship.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Um, it was cool.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: They have like a whole mural thing with, with Fernando,
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: with Kurt Cignetti. Um, it's a cool little, uh, you know,
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: college town, but they got to upgrade the stadium.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: We got to get that thing upgraded.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: And then, uh, I was going to say too, um,
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: With that game, I want to shout out, would you
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: make a Charlie Becker? Because I know there's a lot
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: of attention on Jeremiah Smith. I think heading into this year,
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: we were like Cam Coleman, KJ Dove. Cam Coleman's been
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: pretty quiet, and I don't know if that's got to
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: do with Arch or the Texas offense.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: My thing with.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: Charlie was going to be, he's got great hands. He
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: can run vertical routes, but can he really, you know,
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: snap off, run an out route, run a slant route?
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: I'm not comparing him to JSN. Yeah, I'm not comparing
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: him to JSN, but his pad level and how even
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: it is through his routes. He's gotten really smooth, man.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: I think legit a wide receiver one, top eight player,
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: high character guy, catches everything. I don't know what flaw
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: in his game is. And he looked really fast in person.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: like he could maybe run a four, four, and then
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: it's like, watch out for Charlie Becker, but.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: He's a white boy.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: Usually just some white boys don't really, you know, succeed
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: in the, in the league for the wide receiver position
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: on the outside.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe it was less have a white wide receiver got
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: drafted in the top two. I mean, it's probably been
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: a while.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Uh, yeah.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, but even Cignetti, like in that thing, he
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: sat down with Reese Davis when he was going over
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: all the plays. I think you sent it to like
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: the group text over the summer. And, uh, he was like,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: Charlie Becker carried us last year. And then obviously, you know,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: that was last year. And that was doing a lot
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: of vertical stuff, making big plays, running post routes. Now, yesterday,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: he was incredible. And then you see the clip of
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: him going up and apologizing to Ryan Day.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: I don't even remember whatever he did. He was on stage.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: He was basically yelling out to like his dad or whatever.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: And he said.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: Something with the F word in Ohio State. Honestly, I
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: forgot he did it. He didn't really need to say it.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: I don't think anyone questioned your character. When you say
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: an F-bomb, like I'm a Christian, I cuss every once
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: in a while.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: It is what it is. It's life. It's football.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: I feel like football is the most acceptable sport in
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: the country where you can cuss, at least for me.
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: When I was there, I got called every single word
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: you could think of coming from a private Christian school.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: But he's special, man.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: And then Nick Marsh, it sucks for that last play,
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: but you're seeing his impact. You're starting to see him
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: kind of ramp up a little bit. and the impact
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: of having him alongside Charlie Becker.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Cignetti said that was their– they got that look, I think,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: on a previous drive, and he got sacked on the
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: all-out blitz. That was their check to just run a
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: go-round and throw it up to him. Like you said,
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: not being there live, you go, well, lead him inside.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: You have the whole room. But he probably got hit
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: the moment he threw the ball, right? He just threw
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: it in the air. It was– I mean, it could
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: have been inches away. He did have to drift. It's
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: just a freak deal. You could argue it's a little
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: like football gods balancing it out based on last year.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: They hit that play every single time last year. I
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: think they're going to be fine. I think Ohio State
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: has major question marks. They're winning a bunch of games
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: with sand.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: They're fine.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: Could they win the national championship with them?
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: Probably not.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: But they're a locked playoff team. Now if he's in
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: a sling, Who knows? This little guy, who knows? Maybe
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: they transition. Maybe they give the other guy a shot.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: College can be weird with that. That was remarkable. Yesterday,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: you're a big Notre Dame fan. There is no way
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: around that. Listen, you want to be independent. You want
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: to keep all the money and play random schedules. It's
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: out of your control because you have to make them
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: so far in advance. Michigan State had a five-year run
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: with D'Antoni where they were like a top 10 program.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: Now they suck, right?
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Or Wisconsin, right? Wisconsin had a run for like 20 years.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: You know, I remember when I was a GA at
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Fresno State, they were a top 10 team when we played.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: We played them back-to-back years. They were top.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: 10 or 15 both years. Now they're just– they're actually
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: not bad this year. That's not a bad opponent. But, like,
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: when you do play the best teams on your schedule
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: if you're them– And then you lose. And I know
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: the ending was, but someone's like, hey, it was Big
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: 12 refs. You know, it's like, when you get in
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: a conference, maybe you can bring your own refs. But regardless, like,
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: they were getting their ass kicked in the first half.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: And if it wasn't for a muff punt and the
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: worst fake punt you've ever seen. Clearly, in a meeting,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: they had drawn that up the way they were blocking. Like,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: he's going to walk right 30 yards. And then it
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: was the opposite. But they but on those two, they
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: only got field goals.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: So it was big.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: They only got field goals on both. Here's what I
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: will say. Like, I still view Notre Dame's clearly a
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: top one of the best 10 teams in the country.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: but it's not like they're just some lock, no doubt,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: if they go 10-2.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: They do have to beat Miami when they come to
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: If you lose these two games, you've had two games
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: the last two years against two real good teams, and
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: you've lost all four of them, that is kind of.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: We all like Marcus Freeman.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: He's built a great program.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: It feels like it's gone to another level in theory,
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: but what was the stat?
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: They haven't beat a top-10 opponent on the road in forever?
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, They just don't win a lot
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: of these games.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: But they don't play a lot of them. No. That's
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: the thing.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: They just don't play a lot of them. And that's
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: what happens when you do this weird schedule. It does
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: put a lot of pressure on these individuals. Remember last year,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: like the Penn State-Oregon game? All Penn State had thought
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: about that game all year, and then they lost it,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: and then the whole program imploded. Clearly, if you're in
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame, You definitely circled the Miami game. But, like,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: it was pretty clear. BYU went 11-2 last year. You
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: knew this was going to be the second biggest game
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: on your schedule.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: And you're just all in.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: It's like your Super Bowl.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: And if it doesn't go well, it can kind of
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: derail you.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: I think I was just shocked at how bad their
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: defense played with Bear Boknoyer throwing the football. And how
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: many just winning plays offensively that BYU drew up, the
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: trick plays.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: I give them credit. The throwback was sick. Oh, it
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: was so sick.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: But that first drive for them to drive down that
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: field and score on the opening drive after Notre Dame
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: loses their pass rusher to some dumb penalty that he
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: made on his own, which was targeting, which I thought
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: you didn't get disqualified for targeting, but maybe because it
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: was like a direct shot towards his head, kind of
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: like aggressive, they called him out. I don't know why
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: there was big– Aren't they missing their star running back
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: who is like an NFL guy?
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, L.J. Martin.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what's upsetting too is they brought this guy
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: Preston Rex who never played running back, and they ran
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: for 121 yards, which in the second half they kind of–
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: their third quarter was weird for BYU, and then the
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: last drive Barrett Bachmeier just took over, and the quarterback
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: run was ultimately they couldn't– they had no answer for.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: It's tough losing to a quarterback wearing 47.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: It is, man. It is, man. And it's just ugly.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: But they win.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: And now they're in a situation where, one, I don't
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: get why there was Big 12 refs for a non-conference
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: game when there's a team in the Big 12. Just
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: a little circle there. I'm confused why that was something
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: that happened. You know what's weird is I.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Don't think of BYU as a Big 12 team. When
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: I close my eyes, I don't know what conference I
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: think of them. Mountain West?
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: That's a shot. That's not a shot.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: It's just the mountains. Their history is whack, Mountain West.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: When I close my eyes, I don't think BYU and
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Arizona and Arizona State and Colorado in the same conference.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: BYU is in this weird... They were kind of like
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: the Mormon version of you guys. But they played in
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: these West Coast conferences against different programs. They didn't have
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: a choice, but I mean, they didn't go 11-2 last year.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: They just got kind of their season, I feel like,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: got red flagged because didn't they play Tech twice and
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: they got their ass kicked twice?
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was on the road and then the Big
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: 12 Championship. I mean, give them credit for scheduling this
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: game with Notre Dame. They're better this year.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. But at home, they have like a 91%
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: win rate.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: And I was confident heading into this game until everything
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: that happened in the sport was weird. And it just
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: felt like this was a cherry on top and it
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: was inevitable. It was about to happen. I will say
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: one thing for Notre Dame that you can hang your
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: hat on. And I know there's some people that are
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: going to be like.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: Well, Jackson, he doesn't know how to spike the football.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: CJ Carr compared to a lot of these quarterbacks right
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: now from a mental standpoint and the way he was
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: operating late that drive.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: And I thought they got two pass happy.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: And I thought the plays in the end zone going
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: outside the numbers, just a low percentage throw was just
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: kind of.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: Eerie to me.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: They kind of abandoned the run when they were up.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: Jonas Walton was a guy who was a true freshman
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: the last two weeks. Had over 100 yards back-to-back weeks.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: He was kind of that explosive back. Nolan James is
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: your outside zone guy.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Kind of like a Gibbs player. He's a good player.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: He's a really good player.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: He's young. Sophomore. First ever big game. That's the thing too.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: A lot of these underclassmen, they have a good recruiting class,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: but you don't have that big X receiver on the outside.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: You don't have.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: That stud defensive line, that can get pressure every time.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: Bryce Young, you see some flashes. You lost your best
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: pass rusher. So you're just in a tough spot, man.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: But you knew that heading in, and it's like, how
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: many years are you going to have of having a
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: one-game season now with Miami when you're bringing all this
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: talent in and you're just wasting it?
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: It's kind of pointless for me. So I agree. I
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: think they do got.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: To join a conference. I do think they could still
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: get in if they lost– What was the– wasn't the
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: Miami game last year really close to? Yeah, it was
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: CJ Carr's first start. I think it was like a three-
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: or four-point game.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so if they have the same type of situation.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: The one-handed catch. Yeah, the one-handed catch he had too.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: Just some fluky shit that happened.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Let's say they lost in a walk-off field goal to
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: Miami and lost, you know, 25 to 23 or something
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: like that. I think they could get in at 10-2.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: But it would start getting really– the SEC schools would
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: all start arguing. Yeah.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know if the 2014 playoffs was to start
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: next year. Next year. That's why it's like, yeah, Notre Dame.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: They could get shunned then.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: But if there's a 2014 conference, they're going to do
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: the same thing they've been doing. Maybe schedule some power
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: four teams early on, which you hope.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: 2014, they'd cruise in at nine and three in a year.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: They'd be fine. But this year, I've seen a lot
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: of takes of people like– Nine and three teams in
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: the Big Ten and definitely the SEC.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: No chance.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: I'd pump the brake. Let's just see how this whole
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: thing plays out. I think yesterday was more indicative of
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: it's pretty wide open.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: Everyone's flawed. Tennessee could beat Alabama.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: Tennessee could also get their ass kicked one week.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: By Missouri or Auburn.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: It's like no one.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: I would say Georgia... If Gunner Sox is going to
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: play like that, they could lose to anybody.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: Obviously, Alabama, now they've got back-to-back games.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Things get weird. They lost back-to-back games for the first
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: time since Saban's.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: First year in 07.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: UCLA, they're going to benefit from the schedule, but you
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: have to wonder if a school like them, you go 11-1,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: people are going to go, well, your schedule sucks.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: That's where I think the argument that happened last year that.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: Basically just came down to Miami and Notre Dame, right?
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: Because even Vanderbilt and Texas didn't really have an argument.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: No one felt bad for them. I think there could
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: be like seven teams in the Notre Dame-Miami slot this year.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Arguing my 9-3 is better than your 10-2. It's going
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: to be the hard part for Texas to go. Let's
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: say they go 9-3. And they'll go, Ohio State goes
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: 10-2 or 11-1. We have one of the best wins
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: of the year. And that's true. But, like, your losses
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: were terrible. You know, so I think this year is
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  Speaker 1: going to be– this is going to get ugly. I
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: think there's going to be a lot of venom. Because
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  Speaker 1: it's clear, like, everyone's going to beat everybody. Hell, Michigan, Carr's–
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  Speaker 1: that's Carr's.
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  Speaker 2: Brother, right?
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  Speaker 1: I kept telling him that. Yeah. That is his younger brother.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he's a true freshman.
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  Speaker 1: What if he's just, like, pretty solid? Like, they become–
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  Speaker 1: their defense is awesome. Like, that's the thing with Michigan
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  Speaker 1: and Oklahoma. When they played each.
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  Speaker 2: Other, it was like, God, your quarterbacks both suck.
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  Speaker 1: If either of you just had, like, a solid quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: no one has good defenses in college, really. That's what
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  Speaker 1: BYU and Notre Dame were kind of the same thing,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: playing each other. Two physical defenses. Georgia and Alabama, like,
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  Speaker 1: not that many teams have, like, high-end defenses. So if
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: you just have a solid quarterback... You know, I mean,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: I have watched way too much of that Penn State-Michigan game.
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  Speaker 1: They were down 3-0.
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  Speaker 2: It was done.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't have a choice. You know, like, Arch does enough.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, oh, let's give them another series. Let's give
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: them another game. Underwood was like, we are going to 100%
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  Speaker 1: lose this game to a team that is terrible.
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  Speaker 2: Penn State's so bad.
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  Speaker 1: Terrible.
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  Speaker 2: Terrible.
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  Speaker 1: And it was still kind of close because, again, it's
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  Speaker 1: not like their offense is great, but he definitely made
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: some throws. Again, when you're Mateer or Underwood, they're just
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: asking you to occasionally hit an open guy. Not like
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: Brockmire or Carr. Carr made a couple throws in the
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: stretch of that game.
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  Speaker 2: They were elite.
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  Speaker 1: Brockmire made some awesome throws. I haven't watched that much
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: BYU football, but it wasn't at the knock on him.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: He was kind of like an NFL version of Tebow.
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  Speaker 2: Like, can he throw?
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  Speaker 1: We know he can physically run. And last night he
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: was like, hey, throwing it. How big is that guy?
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: I think he weighs 240. He's a monster. But yeah,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: you're right.
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  Speaker 3: It was kind of like they had a lot of
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  Speaker 3: quick game, but it was like, okay, can you drop
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  Speaker 3: back and hit a deep over across the middle?
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  Speaker 2: And he was doing that on the last drive.
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  Speaker 3: But going back to CJ Carr, that last drive, dodging
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: all those sacks, eluding plays, the line of scrimmage play.
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  Speaker 3: I saw Brooks Austin talk about this with Arch. Have
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: you seen Arch ever identify a mic or change a protection?
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  Speaker 3: or check out of a play or anything like that.
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  Speaker 3: Or maybe it's Sark. Sark's offense is more, I'm running
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  Speaker 3: this play.
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  Speaker 2: This is it. You're not checking.
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  Speaker 3: Anything where it's like, you know, Kyle Shanahan with Brock
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  Speaker 3: Purdy has more control on the line of scrimmage. You
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: don't really see that with Arch at all versus with
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  Speaker 3: CJ Carr. It was with what he's dealing with, with
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: a bunch of receiver twos. They don't really have that
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  Speaker 3: alpha guy yet. Mylon Graham and Quincy Porter, the two
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  Speaker 3: guys from Ohio State have been kind of injured and
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: you hope those guys kind of get healthy before Miami.
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  Speaker 2: That's the biggest concern.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: Of the year.
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  Speaker 1: Why didn't they go after Marsh from Michigan State?
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  Speaker 2: They did, but he went to Indiana.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: It was those two. But they were in on that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was those two. and he went to Indiana,
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  Speaker 3: which was tough because that's the exact player you need
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  Speaker 3: in that situation. If you're going to run that smash
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  Speaker 3: play or you're going to run a vertical outside of
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: the numbers play, you need a Moss, a Malachi Fields.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: They had last year. They don't really have that.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, they're in a tough spot, but every team
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  Speaker 3: in this year is just weirdly flawed. And I'm trying
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: to remember from last year if this was the same
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: scenario or did we have Those elite teams at the
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: top this time of the year, Indiana was kind of humming,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: but they hadn't really had that signature win against Oregon.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Indiana and Ohio State were better last year. You know, Georgia,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: once they beat Texas, was pretty well established.
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  Speaker 3: Like life on the line, I don't know who I
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: would pick to win the SEC. Texas Tech, their defense
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: was so dominant, they were a lock.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, just this season is– there are 20-plus
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: teams right now fighting.
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  Speaker 2: For the 12 spots, I think. You know, it's pretty
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: wide open.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, a couple weeks ago it was like Ole
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: Miss is dead. It's like they are not dead.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought Missouri was going to keep that close.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: They've been looking like a good team. Jamal Roberts running
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: for 100, 200 yards a game.
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  Speaker 2: He got killed.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: Murdered.
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  Speaker 2: Austin Simmons was just rattled. So I give Ole Miss credit, but.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're in the Big 12 right now where you
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: win this game against BYU, or BYU, you win this
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: game against Notre Dame. If you're Notre Dame, you've got
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: to hope they win that conference because if they're in
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: a situation where they lose the championship game and there's
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: a two-bid league, like, you have the head-to-head argument again
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: with one second left on the clock. I guess that
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: could maybe give you some leeway of how close that
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: game was.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: But if you go 10-2 and they go 10-2, you
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: have the same record.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: It's going to be head-to-head like it was last year.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: What's the point of the game? You played them. You
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: played them. And it was like you were down 21-10.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: It would be one thing if like, well, they were
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: dominating the whole game and it got freaky at the
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: end and it was vice versa. It's like they were
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: ahead pretty handily. You know, 21-10 felt, especially in a
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: defensive game, it was like, what is going on? Is
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame– and again, that's what happens when you play.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: It's not totally– I will absolve them when you make
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: these schedules so far out. It's not your– like North
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: Carolina game looks better now. North Carolina probably go 9-3.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're playing pretty well. But, okay, we'll talk
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: some college football either this week or next week. Maybe
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: we'll hop on next week once we get a– take
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: a deep breath and let's see how this– because it's
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: changing week to week.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: When do they play Miami?
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: Early November?
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: November 7th is the next big day. That's when it's
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: Miami-Notre Dame, Alabama-LSU, which is an elimination game. Oregon-Ohio State
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: with Ohio State's quarterback issues. Dante Moore is going to
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: be back. Will that change for their team? I still
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: think they're– I mean, Nebraska, I woke up that Sunday morning.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: Why do you think that?
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: Did Dan Lanning say that?
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: I didn't.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: I just assumed that eventually he gets healthy with a concussion.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: You would think he's back. Unless it's like.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: Super, super duper severe.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, they... Last night I was going to bed
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: at about 10.20 Pacific Standard Time. I looked at the
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: ESPN app. There was 12 minutes remaining in the third
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: quarter of Oregon. I'm like, this game's going to end
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: at like 12.30 at night. And then I watched the
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: highlights this morning. He did make... I mean, they scored
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: a touchdown at the end and hit the two-pointer. But
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: if they lose that game 100%, Dante Moore, it's like
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: he's coming back. But now I guess... They can stay alive.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: What a shitty game for Matt Rule.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: Nebraska just can't.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: Have nice things, man. Okay, let's get to bed. You've
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: got to be tired.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: You've been trying a lot. I'm exhausted.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: Adios. The Volume.