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Patriots Catch-22 7/1: QB Tiers, NFL Over/Unders · Patriots Catch-22

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  Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan
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  Speaker 1: Lazar and Alex Bars and Lazarre.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, everybody nailed it. Joined as always here is Evan
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  Speaker 2: Lazar and Alex Bars. I don't know if these guys
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  Speaker 2: are truly playmakers, like what I call this demo playmaker.
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  Speaker 2: I think Formandre and dobbson the potential. So do you
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  Speaker 2: think more so than Henderson?
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  Speaker 1: I mean define playmakers a big play threat or like
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  Speaker 1: consistent volume. You know that's the question, right, Like Henderson's
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  Speaker 1: a big play threat, but he's not a consistent He's
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  Speaker 1: not a guy that consistently makes plays.
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  Speaker 2: Brought me a Dobs is.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody I think could be in the you know, one
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  Speaker 1: hundred catch range this year, so that's pretty consistently making plays.
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  Speaker 2: But he's not somebody i'd consider like game breakers. And
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  Speaker 2: I think you need both.
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  Speaker 1: I think you can't only have guys that are chain
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  Speaker 1: movers and guys that are consistent down to down but
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  Speaker 1: not big play threats. I don't think you can and
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  Speaker 1: you have big play threats either, Alex.
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  Speaker 2: We've got a lot of comments on that discussion, happy
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  Speaker 2: about that. That's why we do those exercises, is to
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  Speaker 2: get people into the show and involved and fired up.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the point. That's the point of having a
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  Speaker 2: radio show is to get people involved in the conversation.
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  Speaker 2: But I will say this, the one comment that I saw,
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  Speaker 2: and it's Alex, it's Alex behind the glass, it's Evan
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  Speaker 2: Lazarre Patriots catch twenty two. The one thing I will
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  Speaker 2: say is that Drake May cannot count as the quarterback
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  Speaker 2: and a playmaker. Yes, it is a separate thing. He
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  Speaker 2: is a playmaker, but we already gave them the box
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  Speaker 2: checked that quarterback. Because they have Drake May. He can't
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  Speaker 2: count as both.
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  Speaker 1: The idea is talent around him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I saw a lot of comments that were like, well,
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  Speaker 2: Drake May is a playmaker, that's one, and it's like, no,
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  Speaker 2: he's the quarterback. The playmakers are your wide receivers, your
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  Speaker 2: tight ends, your running backs. We talked a little bit
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  Speaker 2: about this yesterday on PU. I don't know if you
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  Speaker 2: saw Bill Barnwell's list, but Bill Barnwell had the Patriots
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  Speaker 2: with the tenth best skill group in the NFL, so
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  Speaker 2: wide receivers, running backs, tight ends.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was tenth best in the NFL. Weren't
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  Speaker 1: they second in the AFC.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't look at the list that way, but there
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  Speaker 2: was one.
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  Speaker 1: It was the Barnwell one. There was one I saw
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  Speaker 1: where the Patriots ranked tenth but second in the AFC.
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  Speaker 2: So they had the tenth best skill group in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: And I just thought it was interesting that it came
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  Speaker 2: out right off the heels of us doing that exercise
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  Speaker 2: last week. It was pretty notable as we were going
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  Speaker 2: back and forth on the playmaker category. The one thing
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  Speaker 2: that Barnwell well two things. If you look at where
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  Speaker 2: they were the previous two years, I think it was
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  Speaker 2: thirtieth and thirty first in his rankings, and then you
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  Speaker 2: go it's all obviously Drake May's career so far, thirty first, thirtieth, tenth.
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  Speaker 2: That just shows the roster improvement that they've had year
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  Speaker 2: over year, which I think is impressive. And he also
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  Speaker 2: just talked about how deep they are now at wide receiver,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that's that's a good shout they've They've
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  Speaker 2: really become one of the deepest wide receiver rooms in football.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see if they maintain all that depth with Kishan
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  Speaker 2: Booty and we'll get to that sort of stuff. But anyways,
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  Speaker 2: I thought that was notable and we can continue that
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  Speaker 2: discussion of you guys still have opinions on that as well.
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  Speaker 2: But today for today's exercise. On today's show, I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to do QB tiars. So I ranked all thirty two
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  Speaker 2: starting quarterback situations. Because some teams have competitions uncertainty, who's
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  Speaker 2: going to start? All thirty two? I put them into
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  Speaker 2: my tiers. You know how I like to tiers things.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like to rank things. I like to tier them.
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  Speaker 2: So I have one, two, three, four, five, six tiers.
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  Speaker 2: So starting I want to start from the bottom and
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  Speaker 2: work our way up to build the suspense of where
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  Speaker 2: I have. Drake may so I have the lowest one.
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  Speaker 2: I have the lowest tier. Alex Is you need a
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  Speaker 2: new quarterback, just you need a new quarterback, not the guy,
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  Speaker 2: not the guy, not the long term answer. I then
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  Speaker 2: have too soon, like these are rookies or second year
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  Speaker 2: guys where it's just too soon to tell if they're
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  Speaker 2: they're the guy or not. I have the fraud Watch category,
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  Speaker 2: which is my personal favorite category. These are guys that
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  Speaker 2: have had some success in the NFL but are on
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  Speaker 2: fraud Watch. They might be for various reasons. I have
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  Speaker 2: another category that I would say is like the middle
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  Speaker 2: class and it's just yeah, sure, like I'm not. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not blown away. I'm not. I have an elite franchise.
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  Speaker 1: Quarter starting quack starting yes, sure that category.
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  Speaker 2: Then we get into what I would call the great
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  Speaker 2: have an argument for top ten category, and then the
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  Speaker 2: elite category. So those are my categories for these quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 2: We're also going to do some NFL over unders. We've
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  Speaker 2: been going through the League of the AFC East, most
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  Speaker 2: more specifically over the last couple of weeks, so I
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  Speaker 2: pulled a bunch of win total over unders for the
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  Speaker 2: teams in the AFC, not just the AFC East, but
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  Speaker 2: also the other contenders, if you will, in the AFC.
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  Speaker 2: I want to discuss with Alex if we think that
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  Speaker 2: those teams are going to go over or under their
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  Speaker 2: win totals. So that's the agenda for today. Your calls
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  Speaker 2: and emails obviously as well at podcasts at Patriots dot
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  Speaker 2: com and a five to five Pats five hundred. We
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  Speaker 2: also had and we can maybe get into this in
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  Speaker 2: the second hour. We had a very spirited Celtics discussion
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  Speaker 2: just now with Paul and No Socks in the in
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  Speaker 2: the green room if you will, you know, down the
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  Speaker 2: hall here, very spirited discussion, good basketball talk where we
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  Speaker 2: probably should have recorded that. I don't know. There's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of yelling that might have been bad radio maybe.
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  Speaker 2: But in the second hour of the show, if you
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  Speaker 2: want to talk Celtics, you want to talk World Cup, USA,
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  Speaker 2: Bozia Herskovina tonight, uh, then we can talk that as well.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to go uh, you know, non football too.
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  Speaker 2: But let's start with these QB tiers. So here's I
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  Speaker 2: was started at the bottom and then work my way up.
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  Speaker 2: So this is my you need a new quarterback tier.
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  Speaker 2: These guys, in my opinion, are not the answer. So
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  Speaker 2: Malik Willis in Miami, Gino Smith with the Jets, right,
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  Speaker 2: those are not long term answers right by any means.
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  Speaker 2: I wrote down to Shaun Watson for the Browns because
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  Speaker 2: I think that they're actually gonna give him.
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  Speaker 1: I think we could just say Browns whatever, whoever. Just
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  Speaker 1: that's wild, but I think that is you should just
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  Speaker 1: call it a category, the Cleveland Browns. This is this
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  Speaker 1: is just the Cleveland Browns forever.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Deshaun Watson slash shador slash whichever quarterback Cleveland starts.
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  Speaker 2: I put Aaron Rodgers in this category. I think it's over.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's I mean, look, they're gonna need a
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  Speaker 1: new quarterback after the after the year, like what.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's toast. I think even last year that
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  Speaker 2: team barely made it to the playoffs. He didn't want
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  Speaker 2: to get hit. He didn't really want to throw the
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  Speaker 2: ball down the field. The ball was coming out so
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  Speaker 2: quickly because he didn't actually want to stand in the pocket. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I just feel as though that team, Oh, England love it.
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  Speaker 1: Were they playing here?
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  Speaker 2: The congo.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, there's so much sports going on. We got Connley
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  Speaker 1: early on, the il Celtics signing Mitche Robinson. NHL for
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  Speaker 1: agency just opened.
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  Speaker 2: I would love in England upset. That would be fair.
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  Speaker 1: The World Cup. These games have been really good. I
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  Speaker 1: love the penalty kicks. Did you see the thing where
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  Speaker 1: the German guys didn't want to take a kick?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Wild.
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  Speaker 2: So let's get back to what. Sorry, that was distracted
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  Speaker 2: That German team needs new quarterbacks Germany. So Aaron Rodgers,
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  Speaker 2: I think we're both in agreement. Maybe for one more
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  Speaker 2: year he can be serviceable, but it's time. It's time.
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  Speaker 1: So the question is are we doing like big picture
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  Speaker 1: just for this year. I would give him serviceable for
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  Speaker 1: this year, and he almost got him the playoffs last year.
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  Speaker 2: Or get it he did, I should say. I mean
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  Speaker 2: with one of the most anemic, like peace shooter offenses
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  Speaker 2: in the league.
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  Speaker 1: He got him there. It was bad, he got him there.
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  Speaker 1: I call him serviceable. But if we're doing long term,
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  Speaker 1: like they will need a new quarterback in twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 2: Seven, Uh, the Atlanta Falcons, Penix in Tua right now?
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  Speaker 2: Is that competition? I don't think either one of those
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  Speaker 2: guys is the answer. I'm sorry to say. I'm Penix
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  Speaker 2: who I was a believer in him too, Maybe not
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  Speaker 2: as strongly as you, but I believed in him.
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  Speaker 1: Well believe him sort of was my whole thing with him.
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  Speaker 2: If he's healthy, yeah, well it hasn't just been. He
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  Speaker 2: hasn't been great when he's been healthy either.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I know, it's part of it. But time
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  Speaker 1: to work.
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  Speaker 2: Old friend. Jacoby Brissette the Arizona Cardinals, assuming he is
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  Speaker 2: the starter in Arizona out, not not gonna do it.
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  Speaker 2: Not gonna cut it. This last one I thought about
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  Speaker 2: a little bit, but because I like to confirm our
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  Speaker 2: priors Alex and dance On when we're right, Kyler and
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  Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy in Minnesota. I just don't think that either
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  Speaker 2: one of those guys is the long term answer there.
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  Speaker 1: They also hate each other, which is gonna make that worse.
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  Speaker 1: Some of the quotes that came out of Minnesota the spring.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we were all of It's bad.
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  Speaker 1: I'll take my lumps on Panis. I was dead right,
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  Speaker 1: yeah on JJ mcween.
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  Speaker 2: Nailed that one. JJ McCarthy, Kyler Murray. So you have
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  Speaker 2: just for a team perspective, which I think is maybe
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  Speaker 2: easier for this tier teams that are going to probably
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  Speaker 2: be quarterback teams in the twenty twenty seven offseason Dolphins, Jets, Browns, Steelers, Falcons, Cardinals, Vikings'
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  Speaker 2: That's how I feel about that group.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think off the top of my head.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's so some of these guys are in
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  Speaker 1: the fraud watch category.
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  Speaker 2: We might get there, but I think as of today,
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  Speaker 2: it's still good enough, you know what I mean. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: So that's the group in.
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  Speaker 1: Terms, I have one more team, two more teams that
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  Speaker 1: might be quarterback teams in twenty seven, but I think
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  Speaker 1: they don't belong in that tier.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, this is like your your quarterback is below replacement level.
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  Speaker 1: This guy is bad at that. I think there might
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  Speaker 1: be two more teams that find that out. So Aaron
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  Speaker 1: Rodgers is the one guy that I went back and
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  Speaker 1: forth with on yeah, because they think he's service you have,
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  Speaker 1: like he was probably.
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  Speaker 2: Like the twenty fourth or twenty fifth best quarterback in
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  Speaker 2: the league last year and got the team to the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see. Okay, next category, next tier, too soon, just
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  Speaker 2: young bucks, too soon, first or second year quarterbacks cam
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  Speaker 2: Ward Fernando Mendoza, Jackson Dart, Tyler Schuck. I just don't
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  Speaker 2: we don't have enough information on those guys yet. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm not gonna say positive or negative there right
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  Speaker 2: in the in the middle of those two things. We'll see. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Next tier here is the frauds. The fraud watch Jalen Hurts.
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  Speaker 2: I have Jalen Hurts in this category. I watched a
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  Speaker 2: lot of Eagles tape when the Patriots acquired AJ Brown.
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  Speaker 2: I have a lot of concerns about Jalen Hurts at
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  Speaker 2: this stage of his career. I think the Eagles do
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  Speaker 2: too both personality wise, and play wise really has one
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  Speaker 2: trick and that's a thorough goball down the sideline, doesn't
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  Speaker 2: really do much else extremely well. Isn't as mobile as
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  Speaker 2: he once was, So Jalen Hurts on this list, I
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  Speaker 2: think these two quarterbacks are kind of similar. Hurts one
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  Speaker 2: of Super Bowl, so maybe a little bit better. But
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  Speaker 2: c J. Stroud. I also think c J. Stroud's a
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  Speaker 2: little bit on fraud watch, especially after that playoff performance
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  Speaker 2: last year. The interceptions in the playoffs really started to
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  Speaker 2: add up. If you're the Houston Texans, how great do
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  Speaker 2: you feel right now about paying CJ's.
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  Speaker 1: One of the more interesting situations in the NFL right now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm actually fascinated to see how that plays out.
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  Speaker 2: I just feel as though there's been some good football
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  Speaker 2: with both those guys, Hurts and Stroud, but I got
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  Speaker 2: my eye on them. I'm skeptical right now whether or
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  Speaker 2: not those guys are are long term solutions at that position.
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  Speaker 2: Next one here is similar, Bryce Young, same thing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: has had some spurts, has had some flashes, has had
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  Speaker 2: some good stretches of football, but still, to me, I'm
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  Speaker 2: starting to really question whether or not he's the long
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  Speaker 2: term guy. And then maybe the biggest in the fraud
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  Speaker 2: watch category that I was tempted to move down was
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  Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, who basically was good for eight weeks and
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  Speaker 2: then got hurt and we have no idea if he's
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  Speaker 2: good enough.
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  Speaker 1: Jones was one of those guys where I could see
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  Speaker 1: the Colts becoming a quarterback team at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the year. I really don't get what's going to happen
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  Speaker 1: with him, and they paid him. They're in a tough spot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So this the other way I kind of broke
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  Speaker 2: this up too, because we get into the yeah sures.
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  Speaker 2: I think the other way that is interesting here is
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  Speaker 2: kind of like would you give these guys the big
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  Speaker 2: contract or not? And I think that, you know, moving forward,
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  Speaker 2: Stroud Young, I know Daniel Jones kind of signed that
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  Speaker 2: big contract, but I think a lot of that was
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  Speaker 2: was kind of fugazy in terms of the money in
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  Speaker 2: the guarantees long term. I don't know if I would
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  Speaker 2: give CJ. Stratton Bryce Young long term contract at this point,
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  Speaker 2: and both those teams have decisions to make this offseason.
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  Speaker 2: On both those guys.
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  Speaker 1: I think that the Stroud one's a little more complicated.
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  Speaker 1: He's seen the ceiling right and I feel pretty now
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  Speaker 1: whether or not CJ. Stroud is the kind of guy
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  Speaker 1: you pay. We used to talk about this when every
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  Speaker 1: single quarterback was getting a record setting contract. Remember this
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  Speaker 1: is during the Mac Jones era, and like, eventually one
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  Speaker 1: of these guys, either a team's gonna have to move
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  Speaker 1: on from a serviceable quarterback or somebody's gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: get a non record breaking deal like Bryce Young fits
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  Speaker 1: in there. To me, I think he's a legit starting quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's a guy that you can win with.
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  Speaker 1: But he's obviously not like you could do better. You've
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  Speaker 1: seen the ceiling with Stroud, and that's what makes it
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  Speaker 1: that much tougher because if he can get back to
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  Speaker 1: that guy, it is a no brainer you pay him.
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  Speaker 1: He's not just a guy you can win with. He's
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  Speaker 1: a guy you can win because of. But it's been
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  Speaker 1: a couple of years since he's been that guy. So
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  Speaker 1: what happens there.
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  Speaker 2: One of the more perplexing career arcs that we've seen.
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  Speaker 2: And usually when you're really really good as a rookie,
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  Speaker 2: and I would say on the scale, you know, like
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  Speaker 2: Mac Jones had a good rookie year, CJ. Stroud was
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  Speaker 2: really really good as a rookie. Want a playoff game
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  Speaker 2: as a rookie, was better than Mac Jones as a rookie.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't usually fall out from underneath you this quickly
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  Speaker 2: as it has to Stroud. Some of that's probably to
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  Speaker 2: do with the Texans. They've had some coaching changes, some
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  Speaker 2: roster turnover, they have struggled to figure out the offensive line.
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  Speaker 2: They've had injuries, a wide receiver, all those things, but
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  Speaker 2: hurts Stroud young Daniel Jones fraud watch. I got my
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  Speaker 2: eye on you. I want to see more. And uh,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I'm hitching my wagon too, you
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  Speaker 2: guys long term? Right now? The yeah, sure is the
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  Speaker 2: good enough? We were over the Mason Dixon line now
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  Speaker 2: right like where we were.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that that's when to that, but okay
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  Speaker 1: that is south to north. This is okay, I get it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, I'd say the Mendoza line.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, the Mendoza A line. We're over the Mendoza line.
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  Speaker 1: You know what the Mendoza line is, right, Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: like two hundred or something. Yeah, to be good enough
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  Speaker 1: to hit in baseball, to be in the lineup, all.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Caleb Williams Yeah, Trevor Lawrence, Yeah, Sam Donald, brock Purty,
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  Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield, and begrudgingly I put bow Knicks in this
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  Speaker 2: tier as well. I mean you have to. I think
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  Speaker 2: those guys are all good enough. Do I think that
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  Speaker 2: they are all win because of Do I think that
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  Speaker 2: they are driving buses? No?
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  Speaker 1: Give me that list again.
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  Speaker 2: Caleb yep, Trevor Lawrence, and Sam Donald, brock Purty, Baker Mayfield,
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  Speaker 2: bow Knicks.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm curious what your next. Maybe this is maybe
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  Speaker 1: these two were tweeners. I feel like Caleb Williams and
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  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield are a step above the rest of that group.
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  Speaker 2: So Baker half a step above. Now, maybe it was
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  Speaker 2: injury related, but this happens with Baker. Baker was an
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  Speaker 2: MVP candidate for the first month of the season last year,
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  Speaker 2: and then him and the Bucks completely fell off a cliff.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they lost a lot of talent, they lost some guys,
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  Speaker 1: he was hurt, and they lost I would still I'd
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  Speaker 1: still go with Baker Mayfield any day. Baker Mayfield can play.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in my kit, you can play category. He's
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  Speaker 2: not doing more ten quarterback in the NFL. He might be,
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  Speaker 2: but that's what I mean. He might be ten, but
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  Speaker 2: he might be Okay, Well, I think all these guys
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  Speaker 2: that are in then this next tier better than him,
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: but I need.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: To hear that maybe those two are. I think Caleb
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Williams is a Baker mayfielder a step above those guys,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: but they also might be a step below the next group.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: You're gonna give they are. They're kind of Caleb. I
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: like a one A and one B here.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: So Caleb, I will allow to say, has the most
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: likely outcome from this tier to go up. Okay, right,
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: like because he's young still, he's only going into his
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: third year. Caleb is at this point to me, is
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: in this category in terms of his play, but his
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: upside is much higher than this. His upside top ten
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: quarterback in the league, which is why he was a
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: number one pick in the draft a couple of years ago.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: So these are there's actually eleven guys, but this is
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: like great, definitely has an argument to be a top
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: ten quarterback tier.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah see, I would say Baker and Williams have no
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: argument to be top ten.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: No Baker, Baker was not good last year.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: After the first I like, I'm a Baker guy.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: He's a gamer. Yeah, he's a gamer.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I value that, and I usually hate short quarterbacks. I'm
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: a sizistic quarterback. Baker's like the exception to Caleb.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I could hear that argument for Baker. I think you're
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: a little too high on I would actually make a
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: better argument for brock Purty over Baker.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: I'm luke warm on brock Party.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: He brock perty Is he's gotten a lot better.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what happened? You hated brock Party.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: He's gotten a lot better. He's improved a lot now
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: some of that, you know, you will never know if
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: his efficiency is dried by Kyle Shanahan or if it's
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: drive by brock Party. Like those two things go hand
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: in hand and we can't remove one from the other.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: But he has gotten a lot better. I would say
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: in this tier right now, I'd probably say brock Perty
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: is the best quarterback in that tier. Uh So, top
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: ten argument guys justin Herbert Dak, Jordan Love, Jared Goff.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I think those guys are all made men. I think
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: they're all very good uarterback, saying Herbert Dak, Jordan Love, Jared.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Goff, I was waiting for Gough. Okay, Yes, made men
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: not elite. I'm not They're not in that category. They're
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: not Blue Chippers. But I feel like I would put Herbert.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I would put Baker, Caleb Williams in Love in a
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: category in between these two, okay, because Jordan loves the
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: opposite of Baker Mayfield, Like he's okay to start the season,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: and then Toyota than starts and he goes on a dare.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Jordan Love, I I I was hesitant about putting in this.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: I I almost had him like.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: You did, like you did with my ranking the games.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Remember when we were trying to find what a coin
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: toss was. I'm gonna create my own categories. I'm gonna
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: create one in between these two. That's Baker, Caleb Williams,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Jordan Love.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: I was pretty close to putting him in the ashers.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I think if you put him in the ashures, it
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: makes Baker and Caleb Williams's presence there make more sense.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair. I just I think Jordan Love's peaks
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: are so high that I felt like he moved him up.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: And I'd say the same thing about Baker, but his
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: peaks come later in the year, So I guess you
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: give some bonus for that.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's had better playoff performance.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: That's fair.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: That's fair.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I would put the three of them, I consider three
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: that well. Caleb Williams is different because you're putting a
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: lot on projection. But I would put the three of
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: them in relatively same standing.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: That's fair. I'll allow of that, all right. Elite, Now,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: this is young elite category. I separated the elite the
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: tiers of the elite because I feel like there's the
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: young elite guys and then there's like the established elite guys. Okay,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: so Drake May and Jade and Daniels are both the younger,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: that's fair. They both had one MVP caliber season. We'll see,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: you know, Jaden Daniels did not have a good year too.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Drake Mays year one for a lot of had to
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: do nothing to do with him in year one as
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: a rookie for Drake May. But at the end of
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: the day, he's done it once. Jaden Daniels has done
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: it once. We've seen both those guys be elite quarterbacks
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: in this league for one single season. So I wouldn't
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: put them in like the full on s tier elite
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: category just yet because I need to see it a
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: little bit more from both of them. So the full
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: on elite tier category for me, number one tier, Josh Allen,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. I still put Mahomes here, but I kind
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: of thought about it. He hasn't. I don't know if
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: he's been there. Yeah, recently, Matthew Stafford, Joe Burrow that
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: that those to me are the my best quarterbacks in
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: the league. Alan Lamar, Mahomes, Stafford Burrow, and I think
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: that May and Daniels are are knocking on that door.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Whoever replicates their MVP caliber season first. Yeah, well I
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: would have there, but top five, Alan Lamar, Mahomes, Stafford Burrow,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: I'd probably then go May, Daniels, Herbert Dak Love Golf.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: That's eleven. So those are my tiers. I think that
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: you you brought up some interesting points about Jordan Love
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: and Baker and Caleb. Caleb I definitely give the most
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I think. Okay, I already had six, so I was
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: trying not to make right. That's fair. But if you
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: have comments on those, we can take those as well.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: If you think I'm very very wrong, which I'm sure
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: some people do, well, we'll take that feedback to I
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: want to do some over unders. Let's do some Yeah,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: so we've we've done some AFC East around the AFC
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: East exercises, so let's start with the AFC East. We'll
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: do the Patriots last. Uh, the Patriots and the Bills.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: When I checked this on DraftKings yesterday had the same
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: exact win total ten and a half. Bills are at
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: ten and a half right now on Draft Kings.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I think that's fair.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Are they over or under though the Bills, Yeah, I'll
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: say over. I think they get to eleven eleven.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I've said eleven. I think I've said eleven every time
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: you've asked me, So I think it's a pretty good
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: line set. Is about right that it's there a ten
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: or eleven we're in. It's I think that's what I've said.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I'll go over just to surprise you, and I'll say over.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: But I think it's a you're sweating that one out
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: till they play the Jets Week eighteam right.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: They might play a meaningless game at the end of
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: their schedule. I'm gonna go over to shocker. I know,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I know I'm picking the over the Jets five and
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: a hay five and a half on the Jets over Runner, I'm.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Gonna go over. I think their defense will win them
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: some games.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go over to. I really kind of like
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: what the Jets are doing.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: They don't have a quarterbacks I have to quarterback, and
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: they don't head coach.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: We have to mention that as well, Like I am
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: not sold on Aaron Glenn as the head coach, and
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: we already know the geno thing he was in my
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: you need a new quarterback category that's not gonna work.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: But could they be like a frisky six and eleven team?
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I'm trying to think of the comparison from
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: last year. Could they be like the Saints who only
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: won six games but were tough out? Yeah, and the
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Saints didn't war with offense than defense. But could they
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: be like one of they were like no. Five hundred
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: teams the NFL at year everbody was really good or
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: really bad.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel the same about the Jets. I really
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I can see a vision with the Jets of what
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: they're building around the quarterback.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Now we've said that about the Jets in the past
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: when they drafted Garrett Wills in Sauce Gardner and Breeze
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Hall and all these guys. It was always, oh, they
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: have a great roster, good defense, you know, good skill players,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: but they don't have a quarterback. And Zach Wilson wasn't
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: their quarterback. And you know, going back to Sam Darnold,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: he wasn't their quarterback. So we've been here before with
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: the Jets where they have a nice roster, but they
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: don't have a quarterback. So we'll see. I'm going over.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: I think the Jets are a six win team, the
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Dolphins four and a half. I'm going under.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I'm going under.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I think the Dolphins might be the worst team in football.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: They're gonna be They're gonna be the running for it.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: They're certainly gonna be in the running.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: I think they're a three or four win team. Yeah,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: probably number one pick.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: And when you look at the schedule and all of that,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the under on Miami, agreed.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Patriots ten and a half.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go over. I think they're also probably ten
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: of Like just like Buffalo, you're such a homer you
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: going under.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Now, I'm going over. I think the Patriots are getting
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: there's too much market correction on the Patriots the other way,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: like everybody is talking about the regression and how they
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: know they're everybody? Do you you were.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: You were talking about that two weeks ago?
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Too much, too much market correction there. I'm gonna say you, well,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: what do you mean that was you?
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: When we did Bill's Patriots, that was you.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: You're the one who did all that.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I said that I need to see it again, which
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I do. I think they went. I think the Patriots
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: and Bills both win eleven games. You think they both
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: win eleven?
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Who wins the division?
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: What's the tie I think they're gonna split their games.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: What's the tiebreaker after?
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Probably division record?
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: You know what? The Bills always screw up in Miami.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I think the Patriots win.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: The Bills always screw them. The Patriots all don't have
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: a great record in Miami either.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the Patriots get to play them in my
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: isn't that? Oh No, it's not the last game of
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: the year. Do the Bills play in Miami.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: The Patriots played Miami in in like November.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: In November, it's not too bad. The Bills play in
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Miami January third. That's a trap game. That's it's coming
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: off the Broncos on Christmas.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I think it's that would make sense, right, it's overall record,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: head to head record, division record, because it is for
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: the divisi, I.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Think, so I shouldn't know this. Two clubs heads ahead,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: best one loss. Yeah, games within the division.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got so. So you have the Patriots winning
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: the tiebreaker.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: To win the division, winning the second tiebreaker.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Because the Bills inexcusably lose to the Dolphins late in
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: the season.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I agree, And then the tiebreaker after that
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: is common opponents, which I think the Patriots did have
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: that tiebreaker last year.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: So I understand that. I why you came at me
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: for saying that I am talking about regression for the Patriots.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Winning eleven games is still three games worth of regression.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I describe to that take that everybody's given at this point,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: which is better team worse record.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: I subscribe to it too, But I think that there's
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: a middle ground there where you hear that and I
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: feel like people are thinking like a nine win team.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: I still think eleven or twelve wins as possible for
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: this team, but that's regression. They won fourteen last year,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: so by a letter of the law, that is regression.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: But they need to prove it again, all right, A
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: couple more from the rest of the AFC. The Broncos.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: I think this is too low nine and a half.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: With that defense. It's because of the division. I would assume.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: That's fair, but I feel like that now that's regression. People.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: That would be fourteen wins to nine.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, people think that I am a Broncos hater because
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: of how much I make. I love it. I love
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: hating on the Broncos Bronc. I love hating on their quarterback.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: I love hating on their stupid stadium and the Bronco
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: outside of it. At the airport, I so badly when
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: we were leaving. We know about that airport, right, Yeah,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: I so badly wanted to put a Drake May jersey
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: on the on the on the Bronco while we were leaving. Uh,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: but they no one wanted me to do.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: You know what, you don't you know what we could
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: do now?
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: I wanted to stop the bus and put a Drake Maje.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: If if the Patriots, because the Broncos come here, but
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: if the Patriots end up back during the playoffs, Yeah,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: put a traffic cone on the Bronco.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: There you go, shout out, shout out shout out sorry
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: about ending to the World Cup field.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: That was unfortunate that that that second for Zill scored
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: that third goal.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: I was like, we're gonna We're gonna get together soon though.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: I think mister Craft's working on that. He's he's I've
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: seen that he's pressing.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: So I did have because I tweeted out, there's four
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: stadiums in Scotland.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: It's one of them in it's Glasgow.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: It's three in Glascow, one in probably Edinburgh. I think
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: it's spelled Edinburgh. I think its pounce Edinburgh. So there's
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: four stadiums that can seat fifty plus thousand. The fifth
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: biggest is twenty thousand, So there's four stadiums. Realistically, you
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: could do this. I tweeted out, and I had some
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Scottish followers kind of let me you know which stadiums, Hey,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: this probably would work, This probably wouldn't work. The NFL
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: looked at Murrayfield Stadium, which is the big one, in
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. They obviously didn't end up going.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Based on the replies on Twitter, which way however you want? Uh,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: it seemed like Hampden Park in Glasgow is the way
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: to go. That's the home of their national soccer team.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: That's like there, Wembley. I'm in so I hope i'd go.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I would actually I would go. I would figure out
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: a way to go. That'd be a lot of fun.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Back to the Broncos. Yeah, the Broncos. I feel like
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: their offseason has kind of flown a little bit under
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: the radar. They were really quiet at first, and then
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: they make the big splash by trading for Jalen Waddle.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: That's a big trade.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Adding Jalen Waddle to that that offense is a legit move.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Nine and a half feels a little bit low, and
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I think you're right they are accounting for the division,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: which we'll get to here in a few minutes, because
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I think the Chiefs line is entirely too high, way
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: too much respect for Kansas City right now in Vegas.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: So are we both over the Broncos nine and a half.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: I'm over, But.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Just because it's a low line.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. I think they're a double digit
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: win team.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: They should win double digit.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: They're gonna win fourteen games again, but they should win.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: In less and less. There's more to that. Bonick's ankle
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: injury than's out there right now in Vegas knows something
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: we don't. That would be the one thing. And like
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: the relationship between Bonicks and Sean Payton seemed to test
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: your time since the end of Sea. That would be
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: the one thing to me, maybe because when you see
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: a number like that, like what does Vegas know that
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: we don't? That would be the one thing I go
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: to that Like, if bo Nicks can't move anymore, there
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: goes his game. He can't be a pocket passers, not
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: a thrower.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: That's definitely part of big part of his game. That
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: would be it's not so much running but moving, moving mobility.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: That would be the one thing to me that I'm like,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: if you tell me bo Nix is now a statue, Yeah,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: now you're probably looking at an eight or nine win team. Sure,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: all right, but there's nothing out there right now that
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: says that's the case.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Moving to the AFC North, Yeah this what? Yeah, we don't.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Oh you want to keep with the West?
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I thought we were going by the vision yeh, yeah,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: that probably makes more sense on this line to me.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Way too much respect for the Kansas City Chiefs. Kansas
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: City ten and a half wins ten and a half.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in that. I'm gonna go under. I think
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs would be okay, but since the last time
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: we saw Mahomes at full strength, and like even last year,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: he didn't look right the whole year. Like the Broncos
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: are much better than they were two years ago, the
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Chargers much better thany were two years ago.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: We'll see what the raid. The Raiders are gonna be better.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: There's no way they should be better, right, So I
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: actually think the Chiefs will be okay. I think they're
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: gonna be like in the mix that's that's too high though, I.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Think ten and a half his blasphemy. I really do, like,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: what what roster are you looking at that has them
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: at ten and a half?
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: When Travis Kelsey's gonna get married and suddenly played like.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Taekwon Thornton and Travis Kelcey and Keishan Boody, Xavier Worthy.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I do like Xavier Worthy.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: But maybe they say maybe they sign you know, sloop
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: In and signed Digs at some point, maybe they trade
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: for Kaishaon Boody. I guess, I mean, I don't know.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: I don't see it. Like their off season acquisition was
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker good running back. But you know how I
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: feel about running backs moving the needle. For a team
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: they trade Trent McDuffie on defense, they get worse on defense.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: They actually I think the Jettison Bolt are starting corners
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: on defense, do they not. I just don't get that
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: line at all. They won six games last year. Everybody
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: kind of is under the assumption that it was because
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Mahomes got hurt. Mahomes didn't get hurt too late in
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: the season. They were already going downhill well before Mahomes
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: got hurt. I think ten and a half is crazy.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: I think that's a seven or eight win team even
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: with the healthy Mahomes. I'm gonna go under. And you
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: also don't know when Mahomes is gonna be Mahomes. He
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: might play Week one. But remember Brady in nine was
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: it took him a little bit. He was not the
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: same guy right out of the shot with the ACL.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: I think ten and a half is way too much
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: respect for Kansas City the Chargers nine and a half.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: I like the over here, and I'm not a big
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Chargers guy, as you know, but.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I like they always show up in the regular season.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: They'll they'll win ten games, they'll get the top wild
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: card spot, and they'll get their doors blown off in
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: the first round of the playoffs, as is tradition.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: They are a classic. That's exactly what they are. I
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: think they actually have a pretty good chance to win
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: that division. Yeah, but they might win that division and
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: then lose in the in the in the wildcard round
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: to a worse team that's just very Chargers. But I
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: think that that's a pretty good team, especially with getting
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: their tackles back. I think they're like an eleven or
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: twelve win team on paper in the regular season. I
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: have no expectations whatsoever for them in the playoffs. I
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: think they'll go someplace cold and fold like they always do. Yeah,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: all right, Going back to the AFC North, I thought
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: this line was really really high too. Ravens eleven and
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: a half the highest one out of all these teams.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Right now, the Ravens are the favorites to win the A.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: I love that roster. I really love that roster. I
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: think the new coach will help. Steelers might be bad,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Browns will be bad. Hell, Bengals might be bad.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go over. We're gonna go over.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go over. I think for the regular season.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I think they're set up tremendously well. We'll do this
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: dance again when we get to January with the Ravens.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Is Lamar healthy, Is Derrick Henry healthy?
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Are they kind of backing in? But I think that
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: they're set up incredibly well for the regular season.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: They have a good roster Defensively. I don't know if
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Matta Bik is playing. He remember he had the neck
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: injury last year. If he's healthy and he's back, that's
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: big for them. I do, like Jesse, I think that
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: that was the one thing that does worry me a
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: little bit though about them. And and Lamar has a
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: really good track record when they change offensive coordinators. His
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: first year with the offensive coordinators one MVP Bull times
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Greg Roman And why am I blanking on the coach
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: of the Browns.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: But it's irrelevant, it's Todd monktt.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know why it took me that long. Decland
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Doyle's are offensive coordinator now under Jesse Minter. Declan Doyle
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: has never been an offensive coordinator. He's never called plays
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: to my knowledge in the NFL. Yes, he's inheriting a
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: two time MVP, so that helps.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Well, there can be pressure that comes with that too.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: But I I don't know if I'm totally sold on
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: the offense just yet. I have to see it to
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: believe it.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: With that one, But Baltimore eleven and a half there,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: I think that's a little high.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: But I think they're probably an eleven or twelve win team.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: That's why this is set here. I'm gonna go under.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I think they're an eleven win team. I think there's
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: some adjustment there. That's about right.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: It's Mickey head coach the offense that they could go
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: six and oh in the division, so speaking, I know
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: it's tough to do in that division, but then they
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: got to get five other wins. Let me see you
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: else on their schedule real quick here. So who are
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: their non conference games? Colts Week one should be a win, Saints, Cowboys, Titans.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: They have an easy schedule, Holy crap, Falcons, Browns, Bengals,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Bill's Jags.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: They made the playoffs last year.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: That's right, No, but this is easy. It gets a
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: little tough in the second half. Bill's Jags, Chargers, Panthers, Texans, Bucks, Steelers.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: So they drew the NFC South, which is why they
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: haven't easier they.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Drew the NFC South and I think the AFC South.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: So they drew with the Patriots drew last year.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, whoever drives the NFC South gets a gets a
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: break on their schedule. That's that's the new rule. So
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Ravens eleven and a half. This one I thought was
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: really high too, just because you know how I feel
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: about Zach Taylor. Yeah, I really am flabberg acid that
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: the Bengals have held on to Taylor as long as
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: they have. This is really really counting on Joe Burrow
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: also being completely healthy for the entire season. Cincinnati ten
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: and a half right now. If Burrow's healthy, they can
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: do it. If everything breaks their way and Burrow's healthy
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: and the receivers are healthy, and YadA, YadA, YadA. Now
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: I'll give the Bengals this in our friend trags. They've
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: really improved their roster defensively. The Dexter Lawrence trade was
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: a really good trade. I don't think that they're a
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: top ten defense. I don't think they're an elite defense.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: I think they can be serviceable on defense, which is
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: such a big improvement to what they were last year
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: and have been for the last couple with Joe Burrow.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: If they're like the sixteenth best defense in the NFL
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: instead of the thirtieth best defense in the NFL, that's
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: a huge improvement at Burrow is healthy and everybody's everyone's healthy. Yea,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: though eleven wins is a lot. I think it's under.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: I think they're probably a ten win team. I'll go under,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: but just under a texted Trags. We'll see what Trags
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: has to say.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Too much? Too much, uh counting on what? If? You know?
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Is Burrow healthy the whole year? Is Chase healthy? Is
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Higgins healthy? Is Zach Taylor a good coach? We don't know?
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: You know too much? Too many unknowns? All right? NFC South,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: ANFC South? Sorry, had the NFC South on my mind.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: AFC South, Do you put the Colts in this category
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: of contending for that division?
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I think the Colts, sneaky, could end up contending for the.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: First overall pick. So you don't put well, oh no,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: that would be the Jets. So you don't put the
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Colts in this.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: They gave up all that capital and then paid Daniel Jones, yes,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: and sauce gardener. Daniel Jones coming off a torn Achilles
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: who knows where he's going to be at who knows
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: where Sauce Gardner is going to be at. I like
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: their wide receiver, like I shouldn't say for a silver pick.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: That's probably a little extreme. I mean they have some
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: other good pieces on offense. They have Alec Pearce, they
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: have Tyller Warren, they have Jonathan Taylor. But I don't
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: know if Daniel Jones isn't right. I mean, like, look,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: he had a good set up in New York and
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: he still dragged them out. He had Saquan and dragged
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: him down.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Don't think so. I mean, I think they're the third
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: best team in that division.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: I didn't even write them down when I when I
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: pulled all these because I just.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Don't, Oh, were we only going to do division leaders?
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: You want me to do the whole AFC.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I thought that was what we were doing.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: No, I'm just looking at at the teams that have
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: you know, we can.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Skip the Colts on. I'm actually curious what they're at,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: what their win total is now.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: So right now, the Texans are favorite to win the division.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Colts are seven and a half. That's a I'd probably
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: go over, but that's about right.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: They're projected to come in third. Then that's about right.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: The Texans are right now currently the favorites to win
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: the AFC South at nine and a half.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I'll go over. I think CJ. Stroud clutches up in
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: con what's essentially a contract year.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: I think it's a twelve win team.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I think that's the best defense in football, our second
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: best if you want to give that to Seattle. Obviously
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: it's a great defense.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, as we were talking about, I.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Think that's a perfect regular season team. We have to
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: score seventeen points a game.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Right in the regular as we were talking about with Burrow,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: like if you just get CJ. Stroud to be level, Yeah,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: what is that team?
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: I think it's a good team.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go over them.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: They've they've made some changes on their offensive line, although
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: there's still hitch to the Trent Brown wagon, which I
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: can't understand he because when he's on, he's on man,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: and look, I have nothing but love for twenty eighteen.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Trent Brown right got the Patriots left starting left tackle
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: play to win a Super Bowl. In Brady's Tom last ride,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: good player, Dante Scartneck, Trent Brown, he might have taken
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: a few years off of Dante scarneck Is life barking
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: at him for eighteen straight weeks in twenty eighteen, but
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: it worked. Trent Brown, I've never seen anything like what
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Trent Brown did in that playoff game last year. I
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: was up in the press box where I normally am
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: pre game watching Trent Brown go through a pregame workout,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: and he was questionable coming into the game with an
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: ankle injury. For a playoff game, a Visional Round playoff game,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: he's questionable going into the game. He works it out,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: tests it out, moving around like Trent Brown like he's
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: not a you know, doesn't He's three hundred and ninety pounds.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: He doesn't move well, you know, like he's he's an eclipse,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: like you know, like it's that's what he is. Next thing,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: I know, he's tapped out. He said, I'm not playing today.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: The Texans had to completely reconfigure their entire offensive line
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: ninety minutes before kickoff the Divisional Round, and we all
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: know how it went for CJ. Stroud in that game.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: He's under pressure the entire game. It was an absolute
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: disaster through what four picks in the first half, five total,
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: something like that. I can't believe that there's still that
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Trent Brown is their only option, that Trent Brown is
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: their projected starting right tackle. That being said, they've made
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: some other moves hopefully, you know you can. Nico Collins
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: wasn't healthy for that playoff game. Nico Collins a really
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: good receiver, like arguably a top ten receiver in football
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: when he's healthy. Do they get anything from Tank Dell?
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: You know, I think that's a big question, but a
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: sneaky big addition for them. Alex and I just said,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: I'm not normally a running back guy, but David Montgomery
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: in that backfield, maybe they can have some semd once
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: of a running game to take some pressure off a strowd.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: I think that's a really good regular season team. They
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: don't like they scored twenty points, seventeen points a game.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: They're winning ten games.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I mean the defense is just.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: And that that works. You know, that travels for seventeen weeks.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Last one here Jaguars. A very patriot like season for
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: the Jaguars last year. Their their seasons really mirrored each
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: other in a lot of ways. Uh first time first
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: year head coach UH with uh Liam Cohne eight and
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: a half for the Jaguars. So I think a lot
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: of this is that the Jaguars he saw.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was tempted to say under just because the
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Jaguars generally don't have two good years in a row.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: But under eight and a half is low.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're nine. I think they're nine.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: I still it's how the Jags operate.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: I think the Jags have a good team. I think
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: they're pretty well equipped defensively. I really liked what a
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: lot of the scheme type of things that they were doing.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: He trust me to figure out Brian Thomas, though, I
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: feel like he's really the key to on locking that that.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know, do they need to figure him out
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: completely or can he just be sort of he's their
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: ex and you know the ball comes away as comes away.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: But I'm talking about if they're gonna take this isn't
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: so much the win total. This is just like them
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: taking the next step, sure, because that's what he was
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: last year.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Because it's Jacoby Myers, Parker Washington, Brian Thomas Junior. Clearly,
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Jacoby Myers and Bryan and Parker Washington are gonna get
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: the targets like they're gonna get the volume if Brian
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Thomas Junior is a really good deep threat for them,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: it's better than it's better than the alternative of not
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: having Brian Thomas Junior. Travis Hunters sounds like he's gonna
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: play defense most of the time, which I think makes
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: which is the right call. Yeah, so I have Jaguars
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: over I think the Jaguar. I think both those teams,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: the Texans and the Jaguars, will be playoff teams.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Again, I'm gonna go under for the Jats just out
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: of habit That's sorry, Kendra, that.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: That that that's fair. I think the most ridiculous line
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: out of all of these. And then we'll get your
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: thoughts on it is Chiefs ten and a half. I'm sorry.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: That just sticks out to me. Predicting there's just such
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: an anknn but predicting.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: That they're gonna win double digit games with that roster
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: after the way that team looked last year, I just
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: feel like there's this all this revisionist history of what
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: happened in Kansas City last year. Like when you talked
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: about the Chiefs last year, So Mahomes got hurt. Mahomes
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: got hurt in like December, that team was already going
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: nowhere before he got hurt. But I digress. All right.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Let's by the way, Trags has the over on the
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Bengals over ten and a half. Yeah, Trags is usually
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: not overly optimistic.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: A much better defensive roster for the Bengals. I'll give
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: you that they improved the defense quite a bit. All right,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: let's take these calls and emails are coming in. Let's
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: get to the phones. Uh, Patty is an aguan. What's up, Patty?
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: What's up?
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: Guys?
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: How you doing today?
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Good?
• 42:57
  Speaker 8: So?
• 42:57
  Speaker 7: Uh, I just wanted to say that I appreciate you guys.
• 43:02
  Speaker 7: I love everything that you do. I'm so glad that
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: Barth and Lazaar are on Patriots dot Com. I know
• 43:07
  Speaker 7: I say it at least once a year, so I
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: had to get that in. I'll be going to a
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: few training camp practices as I hope to see you
• 43:14
  Speaker 7: guys again. And I don't really have a question. I
• 43:17
  Speaker 7: just wanted to show my appreciation and for Marine Corpmette,
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: let's go baby to fifty. Let's do it.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Thanks for the calling, Braddy, and I appreciate all that,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: and I we'll definitely see you at training camp. Alex
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: is a pretty big July fourth. Guy too, you like
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: you're you're a big fourth of July. Guys, I nobody
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: likes the July fourth better than our our own.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Well, and he's now picked up a very good summer
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: hobby too, I started golfing.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: It's I guess it makes sense when you serve our
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: country like he did to be a big July four. Yeah, guy,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: but you got there. I can't tell. Oh is that
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: a picture?
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Is that Marines?
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, nice? Yeah, he's America two fifty over there.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised he's not wearing a T shirt or something
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: like that today. But we usually spend the fourth of
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: July together, Alex. I think we're gonna do that again
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: this year. Yeah, all right.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Have you have you seen Team America World Police? Oh?
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. I mean you can't be our age
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: and have not said America World Police. Probably the first
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: one of the first like really inappropriate movies I ever watched.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: What was the first R rated movie you ever watched?
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Euro Trip?
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: That's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, like, well, it depends like R rated movies,
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: like a gangster mob movie.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Or like just well in appropriate. That was your first response,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with that.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think it was probably euro Trip and
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: funny story, I had a TV in my room growing yeah,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: and it had.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Uh oh no, if you saw it on cable, it
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: doesn't count. Why isn't that an not count because that's
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: not really an R rated movie, I mean.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Like an art I was. I'm not done telling the.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Story, okay, okay, so.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Let them finish. Yeah, right, I had I had a
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: TV in my bedroom growing up because I spoil and
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: it had HBO on it, and as a teenager does,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: euro Trip was on, and so I put euro Trip
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: on and I fell asleep with euro Trip on on
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: my TV. And the next morning, my dad came into
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: my room, closed my door and was like, look, I
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: don't care what you watch, but your mother walked in
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: last night and there was naked women on your TV
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: and we just can't we can't let your mother see you.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: So it was on cable, but it wasn't sense No.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: It was on HBO.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: It was, and it was just like we just your
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: mother can't see that because you didn't really watch it.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: That's what I said. I said, I fell asleep. It
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: wasn't like I was trying to, you know, do anything
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: scandalous is what it is.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: We watched uh first is my friend's like twelve or
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: thirteenth birthday something like that. He had a sleepover and
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: we watched rat Race.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: That's good too.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Has since been downgraded to a PG thirteen rating, which
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: kind of hurts the story. But time it was rated.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: R, Yeah that feels. I mean there's a couple of
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: scenes I can think of that are definitely are yeah,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: like when they're on the.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Highway and yeah, yeah, the language is probably not quite
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: as bad, there's some but I also I just love
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: rat right, it's a great movie.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: It's a great movie. Euro Trip or.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: At the awesome cast too.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: The first R movie that I saw in theaters, like
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: when I was legally allowed to, like go, was The
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Hangover Part one.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, first R rated movie in theaters. I was never
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: a big going to the movies guy. It might have
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: been what came out first. Project X are super bad,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: super bad?
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, those are bad around the same time, aren't they?
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: So it was probably I didn't go to the movies
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: to see those kind of movies. Like if I went
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: to the movies, i'd go see like.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Batman, Right, you see the block bus.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: I wasn't a big in the theater guy. Like super
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Bad was something like I'd go to the store and
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: rent it because we're old now super oh yeah, super
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Bad was two thousand and seven. It was probably super Bad.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Superbad is great.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Super Bad. I was on the other night. I watched
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: like second half.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Of it, Big Time Celtics.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Holds up, because not all those movies hold up. Super
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Bad that holds up, still funny.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: It's great, it's a great movie. I would say all
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: those movies super Bad, Project DECKX, rat Race, rat Race
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: was a little bit.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Rat Race is different.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Well, so here's euro Trip, like those were all like
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: the first of those types of.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Euro Trip, the wilder. What was the one accepted?
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Accepted?
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: With Jonah Hill and Justin Long, Just Long, I had
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: this debate with somebody, is super Bad our generation's American Pie?
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: I argue, it's the same generation, so and I would
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: take American Pie over super Bad.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: But American Pie was the nineties and I was not
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: old enough to watch American Pie when it came out.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: I watched it later, whereas I watched super.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Bad when it came out.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: That came there, So I think that's I think they
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: are different.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, they certainly are different. I just don't want
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: to feel I actually, I don't know. That's a really
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: hard one to super Bad. It is a good, tough one,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: super Bad or American Pie. I like American Pie better,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: but super Bad's up there.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Super Bads probably. I probably like The.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Cool thing about American Pie is the sequels aren't bad. Yeah,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: because the direct sequels like not like Naked Mile and
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: Green Book or whatever.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: I just feel like super Bad was it hit home
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: for me? Super Bad I was that because I was
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: those kids in high school.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Green Books a different movie.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking of something else I was. I was those
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: kids in high school.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: I was Jonah Hill and McLevin where I was just cool.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I was just cool.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Enough to like talk to the popular kids. But I
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: wasn't a popular kid, you know what I mean. Like
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: I wasn't so much user that they like really didn't
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: want anything to do with me. But I also wasn't
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: super popular either. In the middle.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Loved Project as I was, Like that was kind of
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: the same thing because it's like the dorky kid is like,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: what if I was the man? Yeah, never threw that
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: kind of party though.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: I didn't. I almost did, and I got saved. That's
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: a story from another.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: That's probably well that that kidden it's based on like
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: some kid in Australia, right, who did?
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Is that true?
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Well there was a whole run after people try to
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: throw those parties. Yes, it became like a cultural phenomenon
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: underrate and the the I think it was first appearance
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: of Miles Teller.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: Oh. Also, if we're gonna go down this straw, we
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: have to mention Borat too. Well, that's a different more
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: like the like the category. Yes and no, that's a
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: different kind of movie. It is, but it but it's
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: it's not in that wheel.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: So this is all like what is it coming of age? Right? Yes, yeah, Bora,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: it's not a coming of age. I love Borat, but
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: it's a different movie. Would be more like do you
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: remember like epic movie? No, oh, epic movie was good.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: It was one of those like parody movies.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: I love that. Spaceballs is a great classic. All right,
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: let's get back to the phones.
• 49:49
  Speaker 9: Here.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Nate's in Connecticut. What's up, Nate, Nate Y? What's up
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: n Nate? Nate? All right, call us back, Nate. Well,
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: we'll get you on shot is in Vancouver. What's up, Sean?
• 50:02
  Speaker 8: I can't believe we couldn't hear Nate. Happy Canada Day.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Oh right, oh yes, Happy Canaday to you too.
• 50:09
  Speaker 8: Thanks. It's kind of funny because the US is playing
• 50:14
  Speaker 8: Bosnia on Canada Day, Canada is playing Morocco on Independence Day,
• 50:21
  Speaker 8: so it's kind of a strange coincidence. And you know,
• 50:26
  Speaker 8: the World the World Cup, I think can really help
• 50:29
  Speaker 8: when you have host nations in it, like back in
• 50:32
  Speaker 8: two thousand and two, Japan and Korea where the hosts,
• 50:36
  Speaker 8: and they did well. They went to the round of sixteen.
• 50:40
  Speaker 8: I think Korea. South Korea won their match in the
• 50:44
  Speaker 8: round sixteen, moved to the quarterfinals and they were ranked
• 50:47
  Speaker 8: fortieth where Japan was twenty six, and you know, maybe
• 50:50
  Speaker 8: we could have It's going to take a while, like
• 50:52
  Speaker 8: that was twenty four years ago, but now Japan is
• 50:57
  Speaker 8: ranked eighteen, South Korea is twenty five, so they moved
• 50:59
  Speaker 8: up bit. And right now Mexico is fourteen, United States seventeen,
• 51:04
  Speaker 8: Canada is thirty, and they're all probably as long as
• 51:07
  Speaker 8: there's not a huge upset going to move to the
• 51:09
  Speaker 8: round sixteen, maybe this will be a huge bump for
• 51:14
  Speaker 8: association football or soccer for our teams as well in
• 51:18
  Speaker 8: North America, so we'll see about that. I do have
• 51:23
  Speaker 8: a question as well Patriots related. It's not that huge,
• 51:28
  Speaker 8: but there is a rookie free agent, undrafted free agent,
• 51:35
  Speaker 8: Travis Shaw, who I'm wondering if he could make the team,
• 51:39
  Speaker 8: maybe play a little bit of nose tackle in short
• 51:43
  Speaker 8: yard situations. And onto the movie thing. You guys mentioned this,
• 51:47
  Speaker 8: so I thought of that. My first R rated movie
• 51:50
  Speaker 8: was in Stove, Vermont. I was on a ski trip
• 51:53
  Speaker 8: with my dad and my brother, and my brother joked that, hey,
• 51:57
  Speaker 8: why don't we see Looking for Mister Goodbar. My dad
• 51:59
  Speaker 8: doesn't do it research, doesn't know about movies. It's like, yeah, sure,
• 52:02
  Speaker 8: he thought us about a chocolate bar. So he went
• 52:05
  Speaker 8: to see Looking for Mister Goodbar with Diane Keaton, which
• 52:08
  Speaker 8: was very disturbing. It's about ano maniac whop who was
• 52:12
  Speaker 8: murdered at the end. And two years later, again my
• 52:16
  Speaker 8: father knows nothing about movies, we see Caligula because my
• 52:20
  Speaker 8: father thought it'd be historical, you know, learning about Roman history,
• 52:23
  Speaker 8: and it was the unrated, uncensored version in Quebec, and
• 52:28
  Speaker 8: it was very disturbing. There was one part where around
• 52:31
  Speaker 8: a man is castrated and Caligula feeds that to his dog.
• 52:35
  Speaker 8: So yeah, I don't recommend that that movie for anyone
• 52:39
  Speaker 8: under eighteen. All right, I'll leave you on that.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: Thanks for the call of Sean. Yeah I was. I
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: didn't see a lot of rated art movies like that.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not not my kind of I'm also just more
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: like comedy, action comedy movie or action.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe like Silence of the Lambs at some point,
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: but I never.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Saw that like gangster like gangster movie. I get good
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: films isn't really like an action movie or that part
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: isn't really an action movie, but like that kind of mob. Yes,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: like mo movie, action movie, comedy, I don't do. It's weird.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: I really don't like horror movies, except for whatever reason,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: the original Halloween. There's something about Michael Myers that just I.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Halloween scares me. I'm not gonna lie Michael Myers.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: I totally I said, just for a long time, everybody
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: compares Tom Brady to Darth Vader, like that's their movie character.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Com for Tom Brady, I know, But the real if
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: we're gonna do the movie, the movie character that I
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: think best represents Tom Brady is Michael Myers, because every
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: single time they think they've killed Michael Myers, he comes back.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: He's meaner, better than ever. Like there was a trailer
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: for one of the new ones where they.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: They block him in the basement and they block them.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: In the basement and like the house on fire, and
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: then they turn around and they run out and as
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: they look back in the rearview mirror, there's Michael Myers
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: with a chainsaw standing on the front porch. That's Tom Brady.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: I'm very bad about his take. I can hear that.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: That was when that that movie series jumped the shark
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: with me, because when they locked him in the basement
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: and then like literally lit the house on fire, and
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: I think they lit a bomb too. Yeah, it exploded,
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: and he's just fine.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: That's Tom Brady, man, that's Tom Brady. Can you can
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: get up twenty eight three in the Super Bowl in
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: the second half.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: You haven't killed him yet? Uh you have anything to
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: say about?
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Was Travis?
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: I like Travis Shaw No mayor of the mayor of
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Mayor of ding Dong City. Was the the Old Red Sox.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: That was a Jaredkrabs Nick day for the Old Red
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Sox first baseman, but the Patriots have a different Travis
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Shaw legit nose tackle size. Uh, I know he's three forty.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: I think he's like six two six three, something like
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: six five sorry, six five three thirty four. Guy was
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: a top He was a five star recruit coming out
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: of college or coming out of high school and just
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: never really got it to click. I think he dealt
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: with some injuries. He was at North Carolina for a
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: few years and he was a text last year, played
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: a little more at Texas. There's a lot of untapped potential.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: They need a true nose tackle. They've obviously done a
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: tremendous job in player development at this position. Look at
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: how far Leonard Taylor came, how far Corey Durden came,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: How far far some of these guys came when the
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: god here. So you know, they have a lot of smaller,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: more athletic kind of pass rushing defensive tackles. They don't
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: have that real space eater, noseguard run stopper. I think
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Show could be that guy. I didn't have him on
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: my last roster projection, admittedly, but I want to see
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: him pop in camp because I think it would be
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: fun to see you make a roster pushing if they
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: can get him where he needs to be, I do
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: think he'd be a good addition to the roster.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he does seem like the one guy that might
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: have the body type to be like a true space
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: eating nose tackle. I don't know if Corey Durdin or
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: a Josh Farmer or a Leonard Taylor like they're not
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: built like those wide bodied type of guys. Travis Shaw is.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: I think that they really developed that position well, I
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: wonder how much. And I know he wasn't as intimately
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: involved as they would like him to be last year
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: for his obvious reasons. But Trell Williams has this very
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: very good reputation for developing defensive linemen and being a
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: really good defensive line coach. So I think that that
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: might have something to do with the fact that they
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: did find some diamonds in the ref last year at
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: that position. So I wouldn't be surprised if a guy
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: like a Travis Shaw or someone like that or is
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: able to pop on that defensive line. But that's how
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: they feel. I said this the other day because we
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: had a call about their interior defensive line depth. I
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: feel like they're bullish on that group, and I think
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: they should be. Yeah, you know, obviously it's a lot
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: of it's Milton Williams and Christian Barmore, but they're very
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: high on Corey Dirden, and I think they're just very
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: high in general on their pipeline and so that abder
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: to develop those types of players.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: That's what might be tough for Shaw. Like we talked
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: about this with some of the udf A receivers, like that,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: they're not bad players, it's just they might be too buried.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: There might not be a pipeline with Ross Spot, but
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: I like Shaw's tools. I'd like team hang around on
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: the practice squad at least. You want a little lot
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: of Boston sports breaking news.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Sure, the Bruins, Yes.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: Have acquired forward Kal vasin In in a twenty twenty
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: eight fourth round pick from the New York Rangers in
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: exchange four goaltender Yonas Corpusolo.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, they got rid of Corpusola's contract.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they didn't have to keep any money.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: They and they didn't have to attach any draft picks
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: to it either. They got a draft pick they got
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: they got rid of Yonas Corpusolo and they didn't have
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: to salary dump him.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: Is what you're I'm not seeing anybody report salary retention.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Wow. So that's impressive.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe that comes out later.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: But so Dpatro their h not Matt doll says they
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: dumped the entire contract. Wow. So their HL goalie Dphro
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: won like the best goalie the era.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they just drafted two goalies.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they they have a really good goalie im
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: providence and.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: They they like we just talked about the Patriots defensive tackle,
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: their goalie development system as much as they've struggled developed bob.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: Is like Dante Scarnekia of the Bruins kind of Yeah.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: No, they just churn out goalie talent left and right.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: It's incredible broach. So, yeah, that's a good trade for
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: them if they weren't didn't have to attach any picks
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: to Yonis Corpusolo. Uh so Yeah. The Bruins JJ Perterca
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: as well earlier this week.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Not bad they're doing okay, Yeah, all right, it's still
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: need to center.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Speeding skills what they needed and that's what he brings
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: to the table. We'll see if they kind of overpaid
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: for him a little bit, two first round.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Picks, but they didn't. They didn't if you listened to like.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: The protection on the Florida pick makes the protection the
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: Florida pick and the first round pick this year, like
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: I could.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: I love listening to people who know about the other
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: drafts talk about the other drafts to see how I sound. Yeah,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: DJ Bean and Pete Blackburn, Ron Felgrin Maz talking about it.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: I guess this year's NHL draft was like nobody wanted
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: anything to do with it. The pick that the Bruins
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: traded the Jazz then ended up trading for like a
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: backup goalie, the Mammoth.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: You mean the Mammoth.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know why I did that, but that
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: pick really wasn't worth anything.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: This was a bad draft, Yeah that I mean. I
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: wasn't worried about their pick this year. The Florida be
• 59:00
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• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Being protected definitely helps because if that ends up being
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: the thirty something if pick whatever, guys scores twenty.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: Five goals a year. Yeah all right.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, and the Burns might lose Victor Robertson.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, I did see that, but they made the Perturca
• 59:13
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• 59:15
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  Speaker 1: deep deep cuts.
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  Speaker 2: Favorite Patriot pastor present.
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  Speaker 1: Based off no like name a Patriot pastor president who
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  Speaker 1: played for your favorite college team.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I see so I have a favorite college team.
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  Speaker 1: Something, right, so you can't do it. I'm getting some
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  Speaker 1: deep cuts, Okay. I got a Malcolm Mitchell one. I
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  Speaker 1: know that's not as deep.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get deeper here into the Alabama or something like that. Georgia.
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  Speaker 1: Malcolm Mitchell, Malcolm, I thought you said Malcolm Butler. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler. I think was Northern Alabama something.
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  Speaker 2: Malcolm Mitchell, Georgia. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I got Trey Nixon, Tolly Bantacaine. I'm sorry, I can't
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  Speaker 1: pick all these. Danny Woodhead, can you give me Danny
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  Speaker 1: Woodhead's college right now? Evan d two shad run State, Well,
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  Speaker 1: the Harland Hill Trophy?
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  Speaker 2: Come on?
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  Speaker 3: New is.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody shouting out Pop Douglas and you know where Pop
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: Douglas went?
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  Speaker 2: Liberty yep?
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Current Patriot Mike Brown from Miami of Ohio. What what
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: super Bowl winning quarterback attended Miami, OHI job? Come on,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: because what's the tribute questions? Like, there's like five colleges
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: that have had a president and a Super Bowl winning
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: quarterback or something like that. I got Dan Copen, a
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: lot of good BC ones, Dan Copen, Mike Cloud, Patriots legend,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Mike Cloud. You love Mike Cloud, Brandon Spikes. There was
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: an ed Lee one in here.
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  Speaker 2: Spikes was awesome. That old school like you want an
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  Speaker 2: old school linebacker?
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  Speaker 1: Linebackers linebacker? Marty Moore is another one. Uh u r
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  Speaker 1: s ed Lee? Got a Dalton can Kate, Dalton Keene, sorry,
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  Speaker 1: Dalton keenan Jery Tech Virginia Tech.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Got a couple of Mac Jones, Jeremy Gallon.
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  Speaker 2: Jeremy Gallon.
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  Speaker 1: Where he went Michigan?
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  Speaker 2: Did he?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's right.
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  Speaker 1: Calvin Anderson? Where Calvin Anderson go to college? I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know that.
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  Speaker 2: Off the top of the head, I do, and I
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: can't think of it.
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  Speaker 1: I want to say Colorado, No Texas.
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  Speaker 2: I knew it was one of the big schools.
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  Speaker 1: You know Ben Coates? Can you give Ben Coates College? Livingstone? Livingstone,
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  Speaker 1: living Stone?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Never would I think he's in Let me double check this.
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  Speaker 1: Uh never mind, I thought he was in college football fan.
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  Speaker 6: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: What other good ones did I get here? Got a
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  Speaker 1: Chase Winovich, remember Ricky Jane Francois. Didn't he own like
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of Dungan donuts? Isn't that the whole thing?
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  Speaker 1: When he was here? A bunch of Oregon fans. Apparently
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  Speaker 1: Dan Copen and uh that's all the fun was. Yeah,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: I owned a bunch of Drake Mays, a bunch of I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't have a favorite college football team.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't it USC?
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  Speaker 2: I guess if I had to pick?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, Willie, Yeah, that's a good one, will e Beginn
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  Speaker 1: for sure. But they don't have a ton of Trojans. Honestly,
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  Speaker 2: I guess play here for a gimme, Willie. So I
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: saw Juju play live in college. Thought at USC that
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of surprising. Corner pro foot barferends. Only nineteen
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: USC players, Yeah, played for the Patriots.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a big one obviously, oh so early on
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: the biggest one.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: So there's one play will We played the second most
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: games of a UFC alum in New England.
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  Speaker 2: It was first Moisy to Tupu Moisy So to.
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  Speaker 1: Tupoo McGuinness, Larry McGrew, who was another linebacker. I actually
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: don't know who that is. Uh, Sam Bam Cunningham is
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: a good one, yep. Pat Harlow had a stint here.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: Junior Seo, Nelson Agalore, Matt Castle is not a bad poll.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all those are good ones. I forgot about Junior Seo. Yeah,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: Junior said, and then that's kind of it. List drops
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  Speaker 2: off after that. Junior say I would have been in
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: the running if the I mean WILLI is an all
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  Speaker 2: time great Patriots A little different.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Junior sales up there, and I mean, we're too
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: young for Tatupu or Sam Cunningham or Larry.
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  Speaker 2: From what I from what I hear, I'm not in
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: these meetings, in these committees yet, but the Patriots Hall
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: of Fame Committee, Noisy to Tupou always gets brought up
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  Speaker 2: as like the first one of the first real ambassadors
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  Speaker 2: of the brand, you know, one of the first stars
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: that kind of grew the Patriots and made them a
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: relevant name in the area and that sort of thing.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: He was a big part of the brand expanding.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean nineteen seventy eight, so he was on
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: God here in ninety seventy eight, was on some good teams, right,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: would make sense, all right? His son played for the Seahawks.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: Some emails we got from Don and Philly he was
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: going off the quarterback tiers. Okay. In a hypothetical, if
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: Drake May goes one to one in the twenty twenty
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: four draft, are we taking Jane Daniels or Caleb Williams.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: I'm probably taking Caleb Williams. I my concern at the
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: time with Daniels was the injuries. Those have kind of
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: born out.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: Like he has struggled to stay healthy a little bit.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: That's fair.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: I think Daniels has probably shown you more old like
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: shown you more. It's kind of like what we just
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: talked about with Shroud. I think Daniel's probably shown you
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: a little more of a ceiling. But I think some
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: of those injury concerns have come to be shown as legit.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: So I'll go Caleb Williams, but I don't think you'd
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: be wrong for taking Jade Daniels.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: So it's two very different types of quarterbacks. I feel
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: like Caleb Williams is a highlight reel quarterback. Jadan Daniels
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: is much more consistent. I would say that as a passer.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: You know, he's a He's a true, accurate pocket passer
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: type of quarterback, whereas Caleb has got these un incredible
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: big time throws and wow plays, but maybe doesn't have
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: that kind of consistency. I'll just stay consistent. I had
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: Caleb as the number one quarterback in that draft. Yeah,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: I'll stay consistent with that and say Caleb, but if
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: I knew what I knew now, I do.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: Knowing what you know now, knowing what I know now,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: I think i'd still take Caleb Williams.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: He's been healthier, that's for sure. Yeah. I just think
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: that he's what three years younger, a couple of years
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: younger at least.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So he's still got some more room because that
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: was the other thing with Jane Daniels.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: He was going to come in and have a high floor,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: but he was what he was, what a twenty five
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: year old rookie something like that, Yeah, Jane Daniels.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think, Yeah, Jane Daniels is twenty five now,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: so he was twenty three when he got drafted, and
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: caleberiam was twenty four. He's only only a year younger.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: He needed three years of college. He must have done
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: a prep year.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: All right. Another question here on Christian Gonzalez. That's a
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: little bit of an interesting one. The question basically is,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: would you guys prefer that the Gonza negotiations drag into
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: training camp or just give him a sweetener for twenty
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: twenty six and kick the can down the road. Uh, Like,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: let's say Gonzalez reports on July twenty four, if they
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: still don't have a new contract, you just give him
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: a raise for twenty twenty six and try to get him.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: Out there, or that would worry me about the long term.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: If that's what they do, then I'm worried. So they
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: couldn't get a long term deal together. Is there a
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: chance they lose him like that would worry me?
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know if So signs that.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I also don't know if Gonzalz would do it.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: I don't think he does. So he has no long
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: term security.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: Look, I'd rather have Gonzales than not. And if it's
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: that or him holding out into like August, then I
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: think you got to get him on the field. But
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: if it's a week, it can't not ideal. The long
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: term security should be the focus. I think the short
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: term thing is not worth because he's he can't not
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: play because then he doesn't get your service time.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that that strategy tends to happen
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: with more veteran players that are more towards the end
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: of their careers instead of the beginning, where it makes
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: sense for the team to not commit long term to
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: that player. But the player is worth more than what
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: he's being paid, and so you just give him a
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: little bit more to market correct his contract and everybody's happy.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know of a lot of guys looking for
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: their rookie extensions or their second contracts in the NFL
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: that would take just a sweetener for one season. Yea,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: you know, that doesn't really seem like that makes much
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: sense from the Gonzales side to do that still doesn't
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: have any long term security, right Yeah, this is a
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: question from Dave and Maine. He said a little off topic,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: but Dimitrius crown Over at Patriots rookie Demetrious crown Over
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: played tight end in high school and he's wondering if
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: maybe the Patriots to replace Julian Hill could play some
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: six offensive line packages. I have no doubt that they might.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he'll be crown Over that gets there.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: It might be Lomu. But either way, I do think
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: that league wide, that's becoming more and more popular to
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: go to six offensive lineman. I'll give you know these
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: things ebbs and flow. So it's a little bit of everybody,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: but Detroit. I would say it would probably be the
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: number one team that did this the most, with Dan
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: Skipper and Ben Johnson playing six offensive lineman definitely has
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: made a comeback. The Patriots were really really efficient with
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: six offensive linemen on the field last year with ay
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: Or Munford as a sixth offensive lineman. So to the
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: emailer's point, it doesn't necessarily need to be the most
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: talented six guy like they are. Munford was a the
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: squad guy, bounced around. Wasn't exactly you know, Orlando Pace
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: out there or anything like that. But I think that
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: that's going to be a big part of it of
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: their offense, especially I agree with the emailer's premise, especially
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: now that they don't have Julian Hill.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're going to do a lot of it. It's
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: that's going to be kind of an interesting battle in camp.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: Is not really a battle, just kind of us observing.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: But low Mover's crown over for that third tight end role.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: I want to talk a little Celtics. Let's do it.
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  Speaker 6: So.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: The Celtics today signed Mitchell Robinson from the New York Knicks.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: I love that they poached him from the Knicks. That's
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: always a good thing to poach him for him arrival.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: But what do you think of the move. I think
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: that they were going to lose use the mid level.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: I think at some point this offseason. The question that
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: I have, and I think the question that everybody should have,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: is is there a move coming us a trading Jalen
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: Brown to now get under the luxury attacks again?
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: Now three?
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: Right, So they could trade at Sam Hauser or you know,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: something like that and get under it without losing a
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: big piece like Jalen Brown. But it does feel like
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: they want to be under the tax. This puts them
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: temporarily over the tax. So one would think that there's
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: a move coming to get back under the tax. But
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: just in terms of the player himself in a vacuum,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: really in a nice upgrade over their center depth last year.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I Brad Stevens said it, So this isn't you
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: yelling at me for liking old school basketball. They needed
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: more of a presence at the rim. Yeah, Mitchell Robinson
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: absolutely protection rebounded Bob threat All. Yeah, so they've needed
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: an old school center for a long time. I think
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: Kate is okay. But I mean, we saw what happened
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs even an upgrade there, and we saw
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: Mitchell Robinson did in the playoffs against Joel Embiid and
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: against Wemby and some of these other guys. So if
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: they're keeping Jayalen Brown, I like it. I think he's
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: a really good piece to add to that group. I'd
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: still like to see him ad another guard. I don't
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: know how much Mike Connelly's given you a thirty nine
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: years old and maybe they trade Howser for a cheaper guard.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's what ends up being. They have a trade
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: exception I think they can use. They do maybe the
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: don't want to burn the whole thing just bigger than that, So.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: If they use the trade exemption, they'd be hard capped
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: over the first apron.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: Well you can use what I mean. I hate the
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: NBA cappy. It's very confusing, and Baseball's gonna use the
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: same one. And I'm already annoyed. But if they keep
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: Jaylon Brown, I like to move. If they move on
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: from Jayalen Brown, I don't really care what they do,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be annoyed.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: So I agree with you. I This move to me
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: feels like a move because Mitchell Robinson is not a
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: game changing signing, where like that's like a second star
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: next to Jason Tatum. Like, Mitchell Robinson's a really nice,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: complimentary piece, and I do really like the fact that
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: him and Nimi Kita are pretty similar players, so they
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: kind of that overlap is going to allow them to
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: kind of replace each other and kind of split the
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: minutes up at that sound position. I don't know if
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: Mitchell Robinson is a guy that you want to play
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: thirty five minutes a game because you can't shoot, so
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: the hack image thing comes into the equation.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: They can each match huge free throws.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: He doesn't stretch the floor at all. He doesn't really
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: have an offensive game beyond catching lobs and put back dunks, right,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: So I don't know if he's truly that guy. You know,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: I think that he's best cast behind the center like
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: Carl Anthony Towns like he was on the Knicks, where
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: he's the second center. But if you put him and
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: Imi kid It together and kind of get one forty
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: eight minute center out of those two guys, I think
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: that that that's good. And you don't really have to
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: change your playing style too much because they're pretty redundant,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: so you don't have to change the way that you
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: play when one's on the court ones off the court.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: Mitchell Robinson's a really, really good defender, like an elite
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: NBA defender, and it can really guard all five positions.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: There's a couple possessions where you see him do that
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: in the NBA Finals where he guards all five guys
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: on the court like he's a really elite defensive player,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: but he doesn't doesn't move the needle much offensively. So
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: if you're trading Jalen, then you still are replacing a
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: lot of the offense. Like you need to find that
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: thirty points a game someplace else. Right from Mitchell Robinson.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: So interesting time for the Celtics. I'll say it'll until
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: I'm blue in the face. I would not trade Jalen Brown.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: I would not chage jail In Brown. Nope, I would
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: not trade Jalen Brown. I am very, very interested to
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: see where this goes out in terms of Bill Chisholm,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: the new ownership group and how their approach to the
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: salary structure in the NBA with the aprons and the
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: luxury tax, it makes some semblance of a sense I
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: can understand it to be out of the tax to
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: get rid of the repeater tax penalties by being out
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: of the tax two years in a row. So the
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: rubber really won't meet the road until next off season. Like,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: if they don't spend over the tax again next off
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: season after resetting it, then we can start to really
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: be skeptical. But I think that this new world that
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: we live in in the NBA, with the aprons and
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: with the taxes and all that kind of stuff, really
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: it brings into question. If the Celtics have two guys
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: making sixty million dollars a year in Jalen Brown and
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: Jason Tatum, do you have if you don't want to
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: be a first Apron or second Apron team consistently, do
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: you have the salary cap space to build out a
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: roster that can win a title around basically, let's call
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: it one hundred and twenty to one hundred and thirty
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: million dollars tied up in two players. I think the
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: basketball people are telling you you don't. I don't know.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: I'm a little skeptical of that. I'm a little skeptical
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: of the whole thing. Like the basketball penalties. I've read
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: all of the don't man's plain it to me. I
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: read it all. I understand, I understand the penalties are
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: the aprons. To me, it still comes back to the
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: number one thing though, the penalty of being over the tax,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: and then the Aprons is money. That's the penalty. Like
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: you want to tell me that they freeze your draft
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: picks seven years into the future and that you can't
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: add to the roster rather than like minimum guys and
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: draft picks. Well, guess what if you have the roster
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: that's over the apron, you should have a championship caliber roster.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: So do you why do you need to add players
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: to it? Like you you shouldn't need to add players
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: to a team that's built like the twenty twenty four
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: Boss and Celtics. You should be a championship team. So
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: I just I would I'm very cautious about all that.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: I want to know more about why exactly they want
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: to trade Jalen Brown. Is that this relationship has run
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: its course? Or is that an APRONS thing? Is that
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: a tax thing?
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: Is that?
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: What'ney?
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: Kind of crazy? How we've gone from Jalen Brown is
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: gonna want out from the Celtics to the Celtics want
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: to be done with Jalen Brown. We might have had
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: the whole thing backwards from the beginning. It wasn't Jalen
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: Brown that was done with the relationship. It was the
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: Celtics which would be wild. It would be what some
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: of the reporting was last night.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: It's interesting too, I would say from you know this
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: type of stuff. I know it's not an NBA show,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: but this type of stuff is what fascinates us on
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: the football side of things, and this is that type
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: of show.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: If you think we only nerd out about like roster
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: building and all of that with football, and we maybe
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: go a little bit deeper with football, but fascinated by
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: all of it. I even I got a FIFA yesterday
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: was on sale.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: I saw that. I was like Trifia for a little
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: bit before the college.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: Game comes out. I don't I don't understand how the
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: roster building works in soccer. That's a whole other thing.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: So soccer's different.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: Good trade for tis.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: Soccer is different because it's an open market, it's right,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: So there's a transfer window and there's transfer fees. There
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: are there is trades every once in a while. Uh,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: but it's not it's not set up at all the
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: same because the leagues are in different countries, right, so
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: it doesn't really work the same way.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: It's different leagues, yes, right, it's and they're equal. It's
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: not like the NFL in the U.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: Right, So back to the Celtics so quickly the point
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: I was making in terms of the roster building thing
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: of it. I do find it the impact of the
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: aprons to be fascinating because it feels to me like
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: this lack of Jaalen Brown market is stepping from You
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: have to be a lot more intelligent about where you're
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: putting thirty five percent of your cap, right, you can't
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: like handing out these supermax contracts like they were doing before.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: All this really kind of started and started to have
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: an impact. It was a lot easier for teams to
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: digest those contracts salary cap wise and tax wise than
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: it is now. So I think some of the reason
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: why Jalen Brown doesn't have as big of a market
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: as people thought he might have is because it's a
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: lot harder to fit sixty million dollars into your salary
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: cap than it was five years ago. So in some
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: ways I think that the NBA is going to see
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: a course correction where if you don't if you're not
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: like a top bona fide, top five player in the NBA,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: you might not be worth the supermax anymore. Right, you
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: might not be worth the five thirty.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: I hated the concept of the max contract to begin
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: with because I think it bails out stupid teams, right,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: it forces you it, it prevents you from overpaying to
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: a certain extent to land a player. Yeah, like I
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: remember this with Gordon Hayward. I never thought Gordon Hayward
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: was worth like the maximum amount you'd pay an NBA player,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: but he was just good enough that a team was
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: going to pay him all the way up to that.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: So I've love see him get rid of the max contract.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: But that's another conversation.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: I just think it's fascinating how if we're going to
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: live in a world where basically you can't be over
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: the luxury tax for multiple years and there's just no
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: owners All thirty teams are in agreement that we're just
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: not going to do that, and that means that the
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: contracts at some point have to be adjusted and teams
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: have to be smarter about where they're spending their money.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: So players that are fringe, you know, second all NBA
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: in his best year, players you know, last year, Jalen
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: Brown was sixth in MVP voting, But he's not jokicch
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: or Sga or Wemby or even Tatum. In the hierarchy
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: of the NBA, you can't pay those guys that anymore.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: That's that might not be the going rate, but as
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: of right now, all those contracts have been grandfathered in
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: to this new system. Right So that was I think
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: where the NBA maybe did a little bit of a
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: misstep with the new salary cap system is that they
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: just did it overnight. There was no like easing into
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: the Apron era. Like all of a sudden, these restrictions
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: just hit and everybody that had signed a contract before
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: the aprons were a thing still existed, and so the paid.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: The Celtics were still on the hook for sixty million
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: dollars for Jalen Brown, but that was being given to
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: him in a different era of the NBA, And it
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter. It's a complicated system, though, and I've spent
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: way too much of money. It's a mess.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: It's it's a complete and total mess. The NFL systems complicated.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: I don't love the NFL system. I like the NHLs.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: You get paid six million a year, that means you
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: get paid six million a year and you count six
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: million against cap right period. I think there's like some
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: very small city, say the NHL.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: But in American sports. I don't know enough about European
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: sports and the answer to this, but in American sports,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: the NHL is the only hard cap, the.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: Only real well, the NFL kind of not really.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: The NFL does not have a hard cap. Our NFL
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: you can spend, you can pay to spend over the camp.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: There's a hard cap on salary. I guess there's technically
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: a hard cap, but it's not.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: There's a hard cap that can be circumvented. Yeah. Like
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: when I think of a soft cap, I think of
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: the NBA, where you can pay, you can literally most
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: a salary that exceeds.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: This same twenty five of the thirty teams.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: I don't think in the NFL you can't have salary
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: that you can't tay cap. You can't. Now there's right,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: there's ways around that, a bonus and then you get
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: into the non guaranteed contracts and all that. I will
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: say there is one rule. I think it was Mount McCarthy.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: I was talking about this the other day. I guess
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: some soccer leagues have this because they do have sort
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: of a cap thing. But you get one uncapped player,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: that's the thing. In soccer, like you get one player
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: that doesn't impact the salary cap.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: So in the MLS you get a DPA designated player
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: that can be I don't know exactly what the rules are.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: This is just the MLS. I don't know about No,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: I think this is in Europe. So I don't know
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: about that in Europe. But I the MLS has this
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: because they set it up this way.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's just the MLS because the one players of
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: Beckham might make more than the entire rest of the roster, right,
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: but they wanted to give players the opportunity to sign
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: a David Beckham, to sign Robin Libandowski I think signed
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: with Chicago recently to sign Who's the player that I'm
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: blanking on right now, that.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: Is Messi is in talks now about coming to the MLS.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: Messi's in the MLS, but the MLS salary cap is
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: set way lower than like what Lionel Messi's salary is
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: with Miami, I believe. So that's the DP thing. I
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: think the revs are are interested in that in one
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: of those players. This offense.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: Oh no, here, this is the Premier League. This was
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: added like ten years ago, similar to the designated player
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: in the MLS, the player so designated, which the Premiership
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: calls excluded player, has to meet one of the following
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: through criteria, played at least two full seasons with the
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: club before his designation, played outside the Premiership before his designation,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: or included in some other thing.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know enough about how it works in the
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: European soccer leagues. I just know that in the MLS, Oh,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: this is their rugby league, this is the I don't
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: think that that exists.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: In European soccer. But I could some an email or
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: caller who to follows it closer.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: Anyway, That would be an interesting thing, especially for the
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: NBA to do, because it would allow you to keep
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: these superstars in place. Right if the Celtics could just say, hey,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: Jason Tatum doesn't count against salary cap.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: Or at least maybe maybe you get like a partial break.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: It's got to count.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: See, it puts the onus on the owner.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: So this I think, you know, to relate it to
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: the football, because I'm sure some people are rolling their
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: eyes that we're talking about basketball so much. There have
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: been conversations in the league about doing this with quarterback right,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: the quarterback cap and having the quarterback only count sixty
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: five seventy five, eighty five percent of their salary count
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: against the cap because the quarterbacks are going to be
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: making seventy million icy good ones.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: Where the quarterback salary there's a separate salary quarter back
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: salary cap, which is basically you have to decide if
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: you're going to have a quarterback make like the maximum,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: and there is no max, but you basically have to
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: have any other quarterbacks on a rookie deal. You couldn't, so,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: for instance, the Patriots could not keep Drake May and
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: Tommy DeVito to the extension they just sign him to.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: So I think that that's too complicated to me. I
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: would just make it. I actually can see the premise
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: of this, because the quarterbacks deserve to make what the
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: market value is of them. But it's obviously if you're
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: going to be paying a quarterback seventy million dollars a year,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: that's just such a large percentage of the cap. And
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: it's it's not even just that it's a large percentage
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: of the CAB. It's so much larger than any other position.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: It's just like so out of whack. I like the
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: idea of maybe only partially counting the quarterback.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: That could make sense to remember.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: So let's say your quarterback only counts eighty percent against
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: the salary cap versus everybody else counts one hundred, you know,
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: so you get a little bit of a tax break
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: essentially for paying a franchise quarterback seventy million dollars a year.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: I think that would make sense.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: It just seems like that's simpler than a different cap
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: and like having different rules completely for the quarterback. This
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: is just very simple, all right, Let's get back to
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: it's gonna hate that the edge rushers. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: that's the problem is that those other positions, but a.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: Good edge rusher opens up more money for the rest
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: of them.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: A good edge rusher like Miles Garrett's is the top
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: of the market at forty right somewhere around there. That's
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: almost half of what the Drake may is gonna make
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: in two years, you know, So it is different. Eldred
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: is in North Carolina. What's up, Eldred? Hey?
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: Tell us how y'all doing good?
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: Hey?
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: I got a question for you.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: I know I'm a selfish fan too, Evan, don't tread Jalen.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, we lose on any end.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: I don't care what these make gun though, okay, gun
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: contract and quota Nick. If the Patris go to this
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: route where they stand him, give a little bump for
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: this year and then put him on the franchise or whatever,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: and then into my two years because make contract gonna
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: come up. You got to pay him seventy then they
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: trade Gunzo. That'd be the dumbest mistake I ever heard of.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: Anybody make their comment, so what do you think?
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: And I'd take it off the air, thank you, thanks
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: for the college.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: So basically they're saying, take Gonzo year to year, so
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: you have to pay may then trade Gonzo.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a bad idea. It's a bad idea. But
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: I can't sit here and totally rule it out, not
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: because I have any inside information, it's just what happens.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: You can rule it out because I think if you
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: get to the point where you're tagging Gonzo, he's not
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: gonna play well.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: I also think, you know, so if you're tagging Gonzo,
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: then you're trading him on the tag yeah, which means
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: you're not gonna get the value, Like you don't get
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: the same value as trading him if he's under and.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: That would be you'd have what three more years of
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: them because he's going into his year.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: You'd have yeah, three more years, Yeah, this year, the
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: fifty two more of them. Well, you're trading on you.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: There's no way he'd play on the tag. There's no
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: way he'd play on the tag. I mean, and I
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: guess he gonna do sit out the whole year. Maybe
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: it's still thirty million dollars that is is it worth
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: or something like?
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: Is it worth that for him? Is it?
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: Would it be worth that for the Patriots to keep
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: him around when he's holding out collective fines and then
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: lose him for nothing? Or would at that point you'd
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: have to trade him? No, they should be trying to
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: get don't You don't dink around with player like this.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not as concerned about it, but just looking at that,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: just we were talking about them earlier, like look at
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: Kansas City. Kansas City has done has made all sorts
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: of moves since they've paid Patrick Mahomes to not pay
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: the second guy. They've traded Tyreek Hill, They've now traded
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: Trent McDuffie. They kind of just aren't paying. You know,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: Chris Jones got paid. I guess, but that's interior defensive
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: lineman money. Travis Kelcey was probably getting paid at some
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: point at the top of the tight end market, but
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: that again, that's tight end, which is one of the
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: least valuable positions in the league in terms of you know,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: top end salary. So paying a number one corner and
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: a franchise quarterback is going to be a lot of money.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: But my guess is that they are going to make
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: that work elsewhere. Like I don't you know, we're talking
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: a lot about these two guys getting paid together. Christian
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: Gonzalez is going into his fourth year. If they give
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: him an extension this offseason, then that extension kicks in
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty seven. Drake May will then be signed
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty seven and not kicking until twenty eight.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: So you have, I say this all the time, you
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: have two full years until you're paying both May and Gonzales.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: At the same time, you have this season coming up
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six, and you have the twenty twenty
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: seven season, so it's not till twenty twenty eight that
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: they're both going to be making top of the market money.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: So you still have two more seasons to worry about this.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: So that's like where I come from with it, is
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: like this is not everybody makes this out to be,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: like this is an immediate problem facing them right now.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: They have to plan for it, don't get me wrong.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: And Elliott Wolf, I'm sure is thinking about things two
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: to three years down the line just like this. But
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: they don't have to pay both those guys top of
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: the market until twenty twenty eight. So we're we're still
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: have a couple of this year window here. Let's remember
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: the reason why I bring that window up. Let's remember
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty eight, is Christian Barmar still going to
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: be under that big contract?
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: Probably not.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: Milton Williams still gonna be under that big contract. Is
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: AJ Brown still going to be under that big contract?
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: Is that the year that AJ Brown's do like fifty
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: million in dead They're gonna three work his deal.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: Right, But like so all of these guys that they're
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: paying now right at the top of the market, Milton Williams,
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: AJ Brown, Carlton, David who else, By twenty twenty eight,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: all those guys are coming off rights.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: They're paying Hunter Henry will be off the books at
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: eleven million. Win will be off the books at seventeen
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: and a half million, right Byered at nine million, and
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: that's two years before. That's in twenty seven, pending free
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: agents after twenty seven. Morgan Moses at ten million, splaying
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: at thirteen, Land at eighteen and a half, Carlton Davis
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: at twenty two. So now here's the thing. You're not
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: necessarily going to replace twenty two million dollar Carlton Davis
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: with a twenty two million dollar cornerback, right right, So
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: this is is where they have to start hitting on
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: draft picks.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: So Melton Williams that'll be the final year of his
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: contract at thirty one, will be the twenty twenty eight season.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: Christian Barmore's final year will be twenty four point six
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: and twenty twenty eight. Yeah, both those guys will be
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: going into the final year of their contract.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much guaranteed moneys left at that point. Right.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: So, and you talk about Mike onn Wnu, Hunter, Henry,
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: some of these other guys that you're bringing up, Alex,
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: those are guys that you need to draft and replace.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: Right, That's where you're looking at Eli Rarerian Right when
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: it comes to Carlton Davis. That's probably drafting a corner,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: drafting somebody drafting a guard. Next year with Morgan Moses,
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: you're talking about Kleb Loomu. So you know I named
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: a couple of linebackers in there. They got that started
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: this year with Obizor.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: So to me, that's where the money comes from. Yeah,
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: the money not, in my opinion, doesn't need to come
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: for Drake, from Drake May or Christian Gonzales. It's gonna
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: come from these veteran players that are going to age
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: out of the Patriots roster by that.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: You you had basically two years with this core you
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: had last year, in this year, and then starting at
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight, there'll be some more roster overhall because
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: they're maximizing this for May's rookie contract.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: That's where we're at right now.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: This is but that it's only a short window.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're gonna need to just like a lot
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: of teams that run into this issue, eventually, they're gonna
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: need to draft and replace these guys. Robert Splaine, Hunter,
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: Henry Carlton Davis, Harold Landry. Those players are going to
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: have to be replaced with cheaper younger players, right, because
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: you're not gonna be able to spend money on all
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: of it if you're up. Yeah, exactly, all right, Dave
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: is in Connecticut. What's up, Dave?
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 6: Hey?
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 5: What's up?
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 6: Guys?
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 5: Late Amy? Yes, okay, I've been out following you guys
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 5: since way before Catch twenty two. Awesome, love you guys
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 5: for a very long time. Just wanted to say that
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 5: real quick.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 5: I apologize if I ask anything that you guys have
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 5: talked about because I'm not really listening now. I listen
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 5: to you later on usually. So I have two things
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 5: for you. One is a question that I've been waiting
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 5: for the off season to ask because a couple of
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 5: friends of mine and myself I've talked about it, and
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 5: it has to do with quarterback armstring. So, for example,
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 5: not to pick on Matt Jones. He has quote unquote
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 5: a weak arm, but if he was to stand next
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 5: to Drake Me, he doesn't look any smaller than him.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 5: Or even take someone like Jaden Daniels, then there's a
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 5: rail but has plenty of arm strengths. So is that
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 5: really about how strong they are? Is that more mechanics thing?
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 5: Is that maybe he's more accurate, throwing it slower or
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 5: something like that. And the second thing I have for
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 5: you is I've been thinking about the Super Bowl and
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 5: how they're saying that that loss was probably the best
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 5: thing for Drake May and I remember thinking throughout last
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 5: season I wish he had a little bit more of
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 5: that maniacal gradius, I want to kill you type of mentality.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 5: So what do you think about that first game against Seattle?
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 5: If they were to win that game, would that be
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 5: better for them from a confidence perspective or would it
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 5: be better for them if they're going to lose any games,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 5: for them to lose that game and make them more
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 5: wanting of, you know, firing them up more so to speak.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 5: And I'll leave you with that, guys to discuss. Thanks
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 5: for everything you guys do.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 4: Love you.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: Thanks say appreciated As I lose the mouse here as
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: the second part.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: First, it's always better to win the game if they
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: need that, if they need that motivation to compete for
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, they were never getting far anyway, It's
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: always better to win the game. They should be plenty
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: motivated enough.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: So I would like to think that it was the
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: best thing that happened for Drake May. But if we're
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: just being honest, winning the game probably would have been better.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: The history of quarterbacks losing a Super Bowl and coming
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: back and winning the Super Bowl is not very good.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 6: Ye.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: Now, most of them don't get there as young as
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: he did.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: So recent example does help. Jalen Hurts, Yeah, lost his
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: first time, won the second time. Besides Jalen Hurts, do
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: you know the last quarterback to do that was Elway
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: in the early and made it in the eighties and
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: then made it in one in the nineties, So there
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: was a what he made in the mid eighties, right,
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: like I want to say, like eighty four, eighty five
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: like that, and then didn't win again until like ninety
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: six ninety seven, right, So there's a huge gap between
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: those two super bowls. But he Elway Hurts, and I
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: think there's two others that have done it. Four quarterbacks
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: I think in the history of the NFL have lost
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and then come back and won the
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Yeah, not a very good track round now, No,
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: it's not. But winning the super Bowl would have been
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: more better. Yeah, always better to win the game. The
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: first question is a good cashway to you question. I
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: think that there's always a percentage of things like that
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: that is physically God given. Yeah, arm strength is definitely
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: one of those things. That being said, there are margins
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: that you can play with mechanic.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: Mechanically, like how much torque can you create? I think
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: actually both can probably be answered the same way in
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: terms of the physical side of it and the mechanics
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: side of it. You look, and I'm staying next to
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: each other, and I think a lot of people look
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: from the waist up. Yeah, it's just like a picture.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: It's lower body, right, You're you're planting and pushing off
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: your legs. Like every time somebody talked to people and
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: like the first time they saw Tom Brady, person's like,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: I don't realize how big he is is, how big
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: his legs are. Right, So it's it's that tall, dude,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: it's that lower driving than tall and arm length than right.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: It's it's physics, it's how much how much torque can
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: you generate? It's like the Trevishey effect. Right, you have
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: longer arms, You're gonna be able to throw the ball
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: harder because you're creating more And we could get into
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: physics terms. I don't understand, but you get what I'm saying, Like, so.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: There's a mechanical chain, and I think that when you
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: talk to quarterbacks coaches, especially guys that train quarterbacks, not
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: necessarily NFL quarterback coaches, but you know guys that actually
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: do this, like your Tom Houses and things like that,
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: they talk a lot about the mechanical chain. It starts
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: with your feet. Yeah, so there's really like four points
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: I would say of action. There's your feet, There's your hips,
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: which is why you see Dak Prescott doing it. Hips
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: are really important. So that's the snap and the hips
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: thing that he does. Pregame.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: That was the thing that Joe Milton as much as
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: they talk about lower body, and I probably should have
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: finished that thought, Like part of what made Joe Milton
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: so crazy is he would make these seventy yard throws
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: off platforms, so he would have his legs. If you
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: go back, you watch Joe Milton really let the ball go.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: Watch his hips. He flips his body so fast, so
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: violently that he creates all that torque and it helps
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: make up for what he's having his base.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they talk a lot about like turning around the
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: axis of your body right and really torquing your core
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: and your hips and then your shoulders. So if you
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: watch Tom Brady throw, who has the most picture perfect
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: mechanics beautiful. One of the big things that Tom Brady
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: is very big on, I know, is having everything kind
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: of uncoil when it shows. Yeah, so your feet come,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: then your hips come, then your shoulder comes, then your
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: arm comes. When you start breaking that chain and things
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: start to go fire before they're supposed to fire. Like
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: if you're firing your shoulders before your hips or your
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: arm goes first, that's when you're starting to break that
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: mechanical chain. So I was always of the and maybe
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: a little bit too much, but I was always of
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: the school that mac Jones could go to like Tom
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: House school for an offseason. And no, he was not
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: going to go from having Rex Ryan's peace shooter to
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: having the best arm in the league, but he could
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: marginally improve his arm strength enough to be an NFL.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones was not always tied together right, but.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: He faded away a lot, which was I think the
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: biggest thing is that he's taking fadeaway jumping and then he.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: Didn't have the rest of the natural strength to make
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: up for that, like a guy like Drake May or
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: Joe Milton has.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Drake May I think has really good mechanics
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: for the most part. I think his release could be
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: a little bit tighter. I know Greg mcdard's big.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: On that, Yeah, but I don't think that has to
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: do with arm strength. That's more accuracy thing. The longer
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: you elongate your motion, the more error you're creating in
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: your accuracy because it's a longer wind up. So the
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: shorter and more compact the motion is, the more accurate
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: the quarterback is. I would say that's what makes Jade
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: and Daniels so good and so accurate is that he
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: has a very very good release, compact to the point,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: no nonsense release, and that allows him to replicate his
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: accuracy over and over again, whereas Drake May, who has
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: very good accuracy as well, has had to work with
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: his arm motion and how long his arm motion is
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: so uh that that's like quarterback mechanics.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you. Brady's probably the best sort
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: of example of rapidly improving your arm strength from a
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: young player to the player that he became. But I
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: also think that it was a combination of Brady having
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: his physicals tools undersold a little bit coming out of college.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: But I would also say, uh, you know his body,
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: he transformed his body.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: Well that's where that's where the pliability comes in. Yeah,
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: because the flex is not your strength, it's flexibility.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 3: He literally.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: Right, watch his arm go.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: It's elastic. Yeah.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: When he throws the ball, especially later in his career,
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: his arm looks like a rubber band.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, if you have to teach quarterback mechanics,
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: nothing against Drake May. Drake May just has so much
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: physical ability that he's kind of like Mahomes. He doesn't
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: necessarily have to have picture perfect mechanics.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: The guy that has picture perfect mechanics all the time
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: is is Tom Brady, And it's all that mechanics change.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: You know that that the jump shooting robot goes around
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: on Twitter, that's Tom Brady thrown f He also does
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: that thing with the with the arm. So he he
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: believes in keeping that the.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: Front boat tucked.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So you see he used to have a towel
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: that he would put under the front arm and he'd
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: tuck the elbow and if the towel would fall, that
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: means the elbow is coming away from the arm, right,
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: So he have to keep the arm tucked. Not every
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: quarnerback does the arm tuck, but Brady did.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: There's a uh.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: And if you did it, then I think you should
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: probably look well, no, there's so.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: I've seen golfers do a similar thing because you're supposed
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: to kind of.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: Keep your elbows together.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so they get a ball and they put a
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: ball between their arms when they swing, and especially in
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: the back swing, if your elbow comes flying out right,
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: if the ball drops and you didn't keep your arms
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: tight enough and your swing, yeah, it's a it's a
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: cool nifty if if Marine Matt's still back there was
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: that tip helped me.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: It's a cool uh. It's a cool conversation about mechanics.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: I think because a quarnerback like Drake probably doesn't need
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: to be a master of this craft, it probably would help,
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: like it wouldn't with anybody. A quarterback like mac Jones.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: That was where his margins were. He was going to
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: have to perfect these types of things. He was gonna
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: have to win with his mind. He was gonna have
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: to win with perfect mechanics all those types of things.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: And that's hard. That's hard to do. That takes a
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: lot of practice and a lot of repetition, and a
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: lot of drive and a lot of you know, just
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: time in the gym, just figuring it out, working on it.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: So it's tough. Brian is in New York. What's up, Brian?
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: Brian New York now has sent an email in, so
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: he must have had to drop off the call. So
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: here's his question, A quick question regarding Pop Douglas. I
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: feel last year all we heard from people was Pop
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: was open on this play or that play and Drake
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: just did not throw him the ball. Do you believe
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: that he could do to height and Drake not seeing him.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: If so, how do they fix that problem? So I
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: do think that's part of it. And I think that
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: there moves this offseason. Aj Brown, Romeo Dobbs, Eli Rearden
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 2: in the draft at tight end with a huge wingspan.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: Does kind of spell or suggest that Drake may would
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: like to throw to bigger receivers, have a little bit
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: more margin, freer, probably a little bit more comfort. He
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: talked about it that he always threw to his brothers,
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: who are all giants. You know, that might have something
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: to do with it. So I do think that that's
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: an element of it. I also think there's an element.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: You know, some of those times that Pop was opened
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: deep in the Super Bowl, I you know, could he
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: have gotten them the ball? Could he not have gotten
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: the ball? There's other factors, you know, they're context pass rushers,
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: you know, things that are happening outside of the play
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: that aren't just oh he's We're watching the all twenty
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: two from the bird's eye view and he's open, right.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: So there's always that kind of stuff. But I am
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: a subscriber, Alex. I don't know if you are to
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: the Drake May big receiver thing. I think that's a
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's a real thing.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: But the chemistry with him and Pop Douglas did look
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: and proved this spring, So maybe that was one of
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: his folks is this offseason was moving on from that,
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: getting over that.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: It is interesting because I feel like every time we
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: bring this up, the instantaneous his pushback is that he
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: played with Josh Downs in college right at North Carolina.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: Now taking it out that it was the ACC and
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: it was a college game. I would also just add
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: with Josh Downs, Josh Downs was their best receiver. He
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: kind of didn't have a choice. Yeah, you know, he
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: kind of had to make it work. I think if
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: you get to this level and you can pick between
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: do you want an aj Brown six foot one, two
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: twenty five with you know, great hands, great body control
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: versus five eight Pop Douglas, you have that option. At
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: this level, North Carolina didn't have the option to say
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: that Josh Downs was too small for our quarterback. He
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: was by far and away Drake May's best receiver, so
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: you kind of had to make it work. Wrapping up
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: the show here in a few minutes, I got to
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: ask Sir Alex if he's got any thoughts on the
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: game tonight.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: They should win this one. I know the pass gets
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: a lot harder after this, but they should win this one,
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: and I just hope that. Look, I get it, all right,
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: I get it. The game is Turkey didn't really mean anything.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: Didn't count there playing backups. It's there's still a momentum thing.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: It's like, and I know it counted, but remember like
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: when the Patriots lost to Miami at the end of
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: the year in nineteen and we're like, that doesn't really
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: mean anything, right. They didn't really need that game anyway,
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: but but they just it was a tough way to
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: lose a game and you hope that doesn't hang on them.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: So again, I think they should beat Bosnia. Sounds like
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: Polisic is also finally healthy, Yeah, which is obviously huge.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: I think I saw the report. Yes, he couldn't play
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: wire to wire. Hopefully he hasn't played Wired to wire
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: in a game in a long time. But maybe they
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: don't need him to, you know, if if they put
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: out two or three goals, maybe they won't need to him.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: But gins the game, get this one and then we
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: will see.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: So a couple of things. This is I would say
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: that it's a fair comparison. Twenty nineteen was a little
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: bit different because they were playing for the number one.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: They had to play an extra game because of it.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so that was a little bit different. This
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: is like you're locked into your seed. Yeah, and it's
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: week eighteen in the NFL and the Patriots decided not
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: to play Drake May in week eighteen. That's what the
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: equivalent of what the US.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's still it's a little more knack because they
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: were playing some of.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: Their some of their guys, so they did like a
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: rotation and mostly it was to just like not have
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: any rust right going into the knockouts. So it's a
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: little bit different because there's less games obviously, Like you're
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: only talking about a three game group stage versus a
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: seventeen game NFL season. It's yeah, that element of it's
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: you know, different. But I would say the one thing
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: about this game that that worries me just a teeny
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: tiny bit. Bosnia is going to park the bus like
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: they're gonna play. They want to win this game in
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: PKS right right, like they want to win exactly how
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: Paraguay do.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: Just I'll tell you this, I'd better not see one
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: player from the US say no when ask take a
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: penalty kick.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: Well, that's how they Bosnia is going to try to
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: win this game that way, Like that's how they they
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: played normally. I didn't watch their game again. I think
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: it was against Italy in the qualifier, but apparently they
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: did exactly what Paraguay did to Germany to advance to
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: the World Cup, to get out of the qualifiers. So
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: they're going to try everything in their power to make
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: this either a one to nothing game or zero zero
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: one one going into PKS Like that's where Bosnia wants
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: this game. If the US can score early I think
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: that they're in really good shape. That that's not Bosia
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: just can't chase the game. They can't be down right,
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: So all you gotta do is score a first half
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: goal and put them down one another easy right, and
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: it's over. Now. Here's a little bit of a of
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: a take for you, though, because I've already given you
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: this take off the air, it doesn't mean anything to
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: me until they win around a sixteen game, doesn't I'm
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: not going to be impressed.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: It should be Bosi.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: I think I'm not going to be impressed who they're playing.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: Got they gotta get out of the round of sixteen.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: I was alive in two thousand and two, but I
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: was not a big time soccer fan. Nor was I
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: that old. Okay, I was ten in two thousand and two.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: I have never as a US soccer fan. I have
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: never really seen them win a knockout game before.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: So does this The lgimate Senegal are both good, though I.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: Don't know if this counts. Though this doesn't, this feels,
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: This feels a little I used Harry Kane, Yeah, they
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: noted Patriots fan har Harry Kane scored twice in the
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: second half, scored both goals for England and they're gonna survive.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: So that's a bummer. Uh the I use this comparison
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: with you yesterday. Winning the round of thirty two is
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: a little bit like winning the wild card round in
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: the MLB, right, like you're you, yeah, you made the
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: it may it means you made the playoffs, you know,
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: it doesn't mean you want to playoffs.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: Well what if they were playing like a more legit
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: team in this round.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: Well if they if they like got a bad draw,
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: then short. Yeah, but I need to see them get
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: to the quarterfinals. That's. Anything beyond getting to the quarterfinals
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: is gravy. That's icing on the cake. But this team
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: should be good up, they're on home soil. They should
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: be good enough to make the quarterfinals. So I'm holding
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: them to that. If they don't make the quarterfinals're gonna
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: be disappointing.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: While Gillette for the last game here is going to
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: get a great draw. It's probably gonna be France against
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: either Canada or Morocco, so they it's pretty good they
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: have the quarterfinal game, right, they don't have a.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: Round of sixteen, That's what I'm saying.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: So the last game here is going to be a
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: quarter final, quarterfinal, and there's the two teams playing again
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: in that are Paraguay and France. France will probably win that,
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: and that's a great track because you get in Boppe here,
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: France is gonna win the World Cup. And then you
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: either get Morocco, who's also pretty good, and Morocco France
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: would be a good match, or you get Canada and
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: you get like a Canad' is gonna travel very well
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: for that coming down here. So yeah, that in canadon France.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: That's that's it's got to be a rivalry, right.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: Canada France now I think so, well, just because like
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: because they speak friends.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Canada French, I guess so.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: But the Canada is not really a relevant soccer nation.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: But still we're not a relevant soccer.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: I guess Mexico looked pretty good last night. That was annoying.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you you were not impressed with Mexico, and then
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: they did that.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: They looked really good.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: Mexico England actually will be the next Uh, that'll be fun.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: This is exactly what this happened.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: Brazil did the same thing the other day to Japan,
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: where first half Japan scored a goal. It looked like
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: the brazil is on upset alert and then they just
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: dominated the.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: Second A give me more of those penalty kicks, man.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: I if the US goes the penalty kicks tonight, I
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: might I might not be able to watch. That's like
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: the thre the finger.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: Well, that's what what's his name? Ryan Ree was saying,
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: like when he had to take a penalty kick in
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: the World Copy, his dad left. Yeah, that dad didn't
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: want to watch.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: So one of my one of my friends growing up,
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 2: he was our goalie. Yeah, and in hockey. I didn't
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: play hockey, but he was our our hockey goalie and
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: his dad couldn't watch. He would he would pace around
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: the rink and he couldn't sit and watch it because
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 2: he's gonna throw up. I want to hear a very
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: optimistic Patriots email. So oh first, he says, oh man
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: Noray moves on to the round of sixteen. I'm not
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: a big second team guy, you know that, Like I
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: have one team. I don't really roof for a second team.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: If I had to pick one, though, I might go normally.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: I love I love the roof chance and.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: Dynamite. He's tremendous and Victor Holland won the other day.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: He's just so good. That guy is so good. I mean,
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 2: and Bape is obviously amazing too, but Holland is just
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: so much fun to watch.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, so here are some really lofty stat predictions here
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: from our friend Dustin Drake May five thousand yards. Okay,
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: no quarterback through for five thousand last year. I keep
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: bringing that up with a couple of years, right, yeah,
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: people keep bringing up five thousand yards, and I'm like,
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: that doesn't.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: Have any era of quarters.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: Forty five touchdowns and eight picks. Is that's like a
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: Tom Brady, That's like the Tom Brady s easy, Yeah,
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: that'd be a lot.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: Ramandre Stevenson. Yeah, twelve hundred rushing yards and twelve touchdowns.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: And what does he have for Henderson He doesn't Okay,
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: just from on still, so that's twelve hundred yards from scrimmage.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's sixty two hundred yard season.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, in terms of what Drake and Rimandre have Yeah.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, the NFL record by the Saints is
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: just over seven thousand.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: We're talking we're talking verify there. If their offense is
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: putting up these kinds of numbers. Wait, till I get
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 2: the A. J. Brown prediction.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, keep going A J.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: Brown.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: Well, I would assume all of AJ Brown's passing hours
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: are coming from Drake.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: May thirteen hundred yards and ten touchdowns. I don't think
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 2: that one is as good as he was.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: Probably a little high, but I don't think that's unrealistic.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: He has them going fifteen and two with their losses
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: to Kansas City and Green Bay and winning the Super Bowl.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 2: So if you wind me up, if you want some
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: Patriots dot Com optimism, that there it is for you.
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: All Right, We're gonna let Mark wrap up the show
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: for us with our last call. Here. Mark's in Connecticut.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 2: What's that? Mark?
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 6: They haven't long time? You been budd good?
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: How are you not too bad?
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 6: I wanted to call in so bad yesterday when you
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 6: were on with Paul Yes, I wanted to get your guys' take.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 6: How is the national media not thinking that the Patriots
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 6: have a top five receiver group in the role. I mean,
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 6: this is just nuts. I mean you got A J. Brown,
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 6: you got Romeo Dobs, you got Mack Hollins, you got
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 6: Kishan BOUDI I mean we have the deepest and I
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 6: believe one of the best wide receiver crew. I cannot
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 6: wait for training camp to see what Josh McDaniels seams up.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 6: I mean, you can't take anybody away because then we
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 6: have a great fullback, we got good running backs. We
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 6: still got you know, Hunter Henry. This is just gonna
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 6: be nuts. I'm so excited for this.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: I love it, Mark, I love the excitement. I'm excited
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: for it to And I think a lot of what
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 2: Mark said there about the answers Alex, they do have
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of answers. Yeah, they can play big. They
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: can run the football, they can go under center and
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 2: run the football. They can put the full back the backfield,
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: they can put multiple tight ends on the field. They
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: can go you know, they can spread you out. They
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: can go all the three receivers, spread you the field,
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: spread you out. Put Drake May in the shotgun. They
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 2: can do a lot of different things. I think the question,
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: you know, the point of houses not one of the best.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 2: I think it's one of the deepest, and Bill Barnwell
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: said as much. So it's not just a homer take.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: He said that it's one of the deepest rims in
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: the league. Do they have the top end talent that
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 2: some of the other teams do. A Cincinnati that has
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: Higgins and Jamar Chase Dallas with Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens,
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 2: Like do they have I don't know if A J.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 2: Brown and Romeo Dobbs are quite doubt type of one
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 2: to two punch. It's good.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: It's good.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: It's not chasing Higgins, you know, Adams and Puka.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: Where would you put it with Jefferson and Jordan Addison. Yeah,
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: I think Jefferson is the best player. Jefferson probably just
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: on his own rais as the ceiling of that.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But like those are the you know, those are
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: the best, right the Rams, you know, teams like the Bengals,
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 2: those are those are the teams that know Dallas that
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: that's the best. I don't know if they're quite there,
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 2: but they're good. Yeah, and they're deep, and it'll certainly
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 2: be exciting to see how Josh McDaniels mixes and matches
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 2: all these different personnel groupings and styles of play. Like,
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 2: I think that's the most thing I'm most excited about
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 2: is that they can play so many different styles. I
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: think that's really important.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: Going a different answer, it's gonna let Josh McDaniels do
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: what Josh McDaniels does best, which is hunt matchups and
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: be situational and game planning, game plan, game plan offense.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 2: Maybe all right, so a little show scheduling up the
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 2: hang out.
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: We gotta do one more thing. Okay, we gotta do
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: twenty now.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 2: We don't have time for that.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: We are three minutes, real quick, real quick, all right,
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: real quick. Sixteen to twenty sixteen to twenty Brady Brady.
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: I think we've done twenty seventeen Brady every time. And
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna click the right place on twenty one to
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: twenty five offense.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: I'm still going digs here, Okay. I think dis is
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 2: their best offensive player in that period.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: I mean thousand yard receiver.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: I feel like Mandre would be the only other one.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: Woh, ninety three to ninety.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 2: Eight Ben Coates or Curtis Martin.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: So it's ninety five Curse Martin at fifteen hundred yards
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: and fourteen touchdowns in ninety five Curtis Martin. I think
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: we go Curtis Martin here because we also sell Gronk. Yeah,
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: eleven to fifteen Gronk. That would be twenty eleven Gronk.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 2: The best gronk.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, ninety nine to five. We could add Corey Dillon.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 2: As a flex, Corey Dylan as a flex or.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: We have ninety nine Terry Glenn oh one Troy Brown
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: at twelve hundred yards and five touchdowns going, Corey Dyllan
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: as a clock killing Corey Dillan. I mean that's a
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: nice thunder and light. Now we gotta see if we
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: can get and six to ten so we can get
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: Randy Moss there you go, all right, good start, because
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: ninety nine to five defense cross the board.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: Richard Seymour, not Willie, not Willy. Shout out Willy though.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: Uh where Seymour? I feel like defensive tackles tough? You
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: want to go Seymour, Seymour, All right, we'll go Seymour dt.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: Twenty one to twenty five.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: This is where we always get tripped out right.
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  Speaker 1: We do have fifteen and a half sacked jude On.
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  Speaker 1: We could put it, yeah, I guess yeah, third jude On.
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  Speaker 2: In the flex.
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  Speaker 1: I mean we're gonna have a pretty good pass rush here.
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  Speaker 1: Sixteen to twenty sixteen Gilmore Gilmore On. It's a player
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  Speaker 1: of the year Gilmore, Yeah, twenty nineteen, Steph Gilmore yep,
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  Speaker 1: oh nine or sorry, ninety nine to five?
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  Speaker 2: Oh again, So we need like linebackers now though, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: corners we have pass rush.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but like Willie counts as a well, we only
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  Speaker 1: had nine sacks though in his best year. Here, we
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  Speaker 1: can't do Thailand now, right, we go Teddy Bruski. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: we can't do tilet. We could go Rodney Harrison.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's go Rodney.
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  Speaker 1: Oh three, Rodney Harrison is stage. Now we need a
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  Speaker 1: linebacker and an edge rusher. And we got eleven to
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  Speaker 1: fifteen Chandler Jones twelve and a half sack, chand Let
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  Speaker 1: me make sure I get Chandler Jones. Yeah, yeah, not
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  Speaker 1: Chris Jones last week? Did I got Chandler Jones at edge?
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  Speaker 1: And now we need a linebacker. Eleven to fifteen, so
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  Speaker 1: we got ten sack Andre Carter. We got one hundred
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: and forty one tackles. Rod Mayo, we don't have High Tower.
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  Speaker 1: We've got Mark Anderson whereas High I guess, I guess
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  Speaker 1: we got twenty fourteen High to Actually this is pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: Mayo has the the pure number on the tackles, but
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  Speaker 1: High Tower has sacked. So we're trying to go for
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  Speaker 1: twenty eight tackles for lost. All right, we'll go Dante
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  Speaker 1: High Tower in the middle. That's pretty good, twenty and
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  Speaker 1: oh we got finally we did it. Excited, finally we
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: did it.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go all right, Uh, quick show schedule update here,
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  Speaker 2: So we are going to pre record a show. We
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 2: did ask for male bad questions from all of you guys.
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 2: We're going to do that. That show is going to
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  Speaker 2: be available to you next week on Wednesday, like the
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 2: show normally would be. I am headed on my summer
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 2: vacation for the next weeks, so we won't have a
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 2: live show for the next two weeks, and then I'll
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  Speaker 2: be back right before training camp starts on July twenty second.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 2: I think it is right. The twenty fourth is the
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 2: first day. Twenty second is Wednesday, July twenty second, So
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  Speaker 2: no live show the next two weeks. But we do
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 2: have a pod that we're gonna do for you guys,
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  Speaker 2: so we don't leave you hanging for two straight weeks.
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 2: That will pre record and then we'll see you guys
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 2: in two weeks and right before training camp. I can't
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 2: believe I'm saying that, but get raady, this.
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  Speaker 1: Is the last time we're here before training camp week.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy. It is crazy. So we'll see you guys
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  Speaker 2: live in two weeks and then we'll have the pre
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 2: recorded show for you guys as well in the mix
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  Speaker 2: there too, So see you guys then enjoy the summer. Right, Hey,
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