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From A Rubbish Dump To Multimillionaire | Royal Marine Charlie Chaplin · Chris Thrall's Bought the T-Shirt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello friends, I'm your host, Chris Throw. I'm a former
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  Speaker 1: Ruleries commando. I've adventured for better and sometimes worse, across
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  Speaker 1: eighty countries on all seven continents. Welcome to the Port
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  Speaker 1: the T Shirt Podcast. Hello friends, Have I got a
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  Speaker 1: guest for you? We're going to be talking about the
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  Speaker 1: Golf of Tonkin incident. We're going to be talking about
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  Speaker 1: living in Vietnam, blockchain AI. We're going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: what is it with this sas been accused of of
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  Speaker 1: war war crimes. We're going to be talking about swimming
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  Speaker 1: and an awful lot of other stuff. So let's let's
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  Speaker 1: get into it. Hello, legends, I hope this finds you
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  Speaker 1: firing on another day in paradise. Have I got a
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  Speaker 1: brilliant guest for you? This is Charlie. Charlie is my brother,
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  Speaker 1: My brother Ryal Marine. Very kind to sponsor our Atlantic
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  Speaker 1: row this win. Last winter we rode the Atlantic to
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  Speaker 1: shine a light for struggling veterans and to support bereef
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  Speaker 1: service children and homeless veterans and the brief service children.
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  Speaker 1: Bit folks is let's not forget a significant percent of
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  Speaker 1: that bream and is suicide, which is the thing that
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  Speaker 1: no one's talking about, isn't it. But put in that
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  Speaker 1: to one side. Charlie, How how you doing, mate?
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  Speaker 2: I'm very well, thank you, Chris. I'm very happy to
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  Speaker 2: be here for all sorts of reasons and being very blessed.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, well, you are on your I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: say your ninth life because that sounds awful. You're bloody
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  Speaker 1: on your like I think you're at least on your
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  Speaker 1: fifth or sixth life because you've got diagnosed. With the folks,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to be a bit loosier because we want
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  Speaker 1: to talk about healing and health and we can't do
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  Speaker 1: that if we're going against, for example, what the World
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  Speaker 1: Health Organization says. So we're not going against them. But
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  Speaker 1: I do want to tell Charlie's story. So he's got
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  Speaker 1: diagnosed with the big one, and you're still here mate.
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  Speaker 1: So what when I spoke to you from the Atlantic
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  Speaker 1: rowing boat using the satellite link, I thought that was
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  Speaker 1: the last time I was going to ever speak to
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  Speaker 1: you again. And you won't fuck off, mate, will you?
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  Speaker 2: No? Nor only listen only the good day, young Chris?
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  Speaker 1: You know yes?
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  Speaker 2: And for my things I've been I've been absconded to
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  Speaker 2: another session. Yeah, I got the terminal, whatever you want
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  Speaker 2: to call it. I don't like to say the word,
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  Speaker 2: but I have to be honest. But I was very lucky.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds a bit crazy. I'd watched a mate that
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  Speaker 2: had a similar experience with blood and been told it
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  Speaker 2: was terminal and had gone down all sorts of different routes,
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  Speaker 2: and nobody's here to knock her any anybody's recovery. But
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  Speaker 2: I watched him and his wife. We both had terminal,
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  Speaker 2: and they were told there was nothing more they could do,
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  Speaker 2: so they, in desperation, reached out to the old medicine
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  Speaker 2: or the alternative medicine to have to try lots of
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  Speaker 2: other different cures, and everybody's different, so there's no absolute
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  Speaker 2: in any of this. And luckily, because of his pain
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  Speaker 2: and what he'd gone through, I thought, well, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to try that one first, and I did, and everybody
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  Speaker 2: else that didn't isn't with us, and I'm still here.
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  Speaker 2: So it worked okay, and it's working. I'm now actually
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  Speaker 2: starting to feel strong. But it was a bit pancreatic
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  Speaker 2: and blood, so it was pretty it was everywhere, It
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  Speaker 2: was everywhere, and I was told that there was a
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  Speaker 2: short time left to go. I was one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: sixty five kilos at the time, blown up like a balloon.
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  Speaker 2: Couldn't get a diagnostics on it. Nobody could diagnose it.
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  Speaker 2: Going to the British military hospital, going to the British
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  Speaker 2: private hospital in Vietnam, the French hospital, and I was persuaded,
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  Speaker 2: luckily to try the Vietnamese hospital. Yeah, and it looked
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  Speaker 2: a bit like Belton, to be honest, because they don't
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  Speaker 2: waste much money on paint, but they have like forty
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  Speaker 2: thousand cancer patients through their year, so they really know
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  Speaker 2: their stuff. They did a blood test on me. Oh
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  Speaker 2: didn't I said the word anyway, They did a blood
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  Speaker 2: test on me. They found it in the hospital, which
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  Speaker 2: I was internally grateful for because I you know, I know,
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  Speaker 2: I've always eaten a lot, but one hundred six hie
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  Speaker 2: kilos was a little heavy, say at least five to
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  Speaker 2: ten and I couldn't move and I was tired. So
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  Speaker 2: I was happy with the diagnostics, and they recommended the medicines,
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  Speaker 2: and I went down the homeopathic route as well, so
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  Speaker 2: I changed my diet, changed my thinking. That was a
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  Speaker 2: big one. Got my sleep back in order and for me,
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  Speaker 2: the sugars were the ones that were really causing the problem.
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  Speaker 2: And I didn't even know carbohydrates with sugars at the time.
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  Speaker 2: I hadn't even looked at it at any level. I
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  Speaker 2: knew people that had the big ce before, but you
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  Speaker 2: don't overly pay attention. But when you've got it, you
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  Speaker 2: start to have a real good look at it. So
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  Speaker 2: my doctor, which is like the National Health Service in Vietnam,
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  Speaker 2: he was from Harley Street. Yeah, it's thirty five dollars
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  Speaker 2: an hour to see them. He was from Harley Street.
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  Speaker 2: And his understudy, Phycision, if you will, she was from Cambridge.
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  Speaker 2: Now I don't know what that costs in the UK,
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  Speaker 2: no idea, but here it was thirty five dollars yeah,
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  Speaker 2: for the consultation. So I got lucky.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I know you're going to say all the
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  Speaker 1: things that I talk about a lot, and a carbohydrate
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  Speaker 1: is glucose. Glucose is basically sugar or carbohydrate certainly turns
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  Speaker 1: to glucose in the bloodstream. And and of course this
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  Speaker 1: is stuff you don't want feeding your you know, your
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  Speaker 1: your cells, which are a very fragile, fucking balance. But
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  Speaker 1: what I wanted to say is I was using Groc yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: So Grot is the AI engine on Twitter, and we're
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  Speaker 1: going to come on and talk about what actually is AI, folks,
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  Speaker 1: because Charlie is going to open your mind up about
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  Speaker 1: what real AI is compared to what we've been fed.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, Groc will only defend the official narrative on
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  Speaker 1: this one. And once you learn to scratch between below
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  Speaker 1: the of the matrix and understand little things like something
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  Speaker 1: like AI is programmed by the Big Club to tell
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  Speaker 1: you what they want you to know, and it's literally
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  Speaker 1: it will go there, but it won't go to the
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  Speaker 1: juicy areas which you need to research for yourself. And
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  Speaker 1: so fascinating because I know that you know, I know
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  Speaker 1: the things like you know, cutting out the sugars, understanding
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  Speaker 1: your blood's pH sunshine, meditation, relaxation, you know all the
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  Speaker 1: other things synonymous with healing that something like Grock is
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  Speaker 1: going to tell you. Oh no, that's just all like
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  Speaker 1: conspiracy anyway, Charlie. Sorry, I wish we could get a
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  Speaker 1: bit deeper into that, but it really is dodgy ground
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  Speaker 1: on some of the platforms.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, it's okay. I mean I went down the
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  Speaker 2: homeopathic one and the normal route so I went into
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  Speaker 2: both routes so I won't I won't go too deep
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  Speaker 2: on it. But my homeopathic one, the lady from from
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  Speaker 2: America to see me, and the first thing she did
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  Speaker 2: she did an assessment of what my body had been through.
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  Speaker 2: So I broke it back twice, the rawal marine stuff,
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  Speaker 2: the rugby stuff, you know, the pain I've gone through physically, emotionally, mentally,
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  Speaker 2: And by the time she finished the assessment, she was like,
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  Speaker 2: I've never seen anybody as damaged as you are here.
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  Speaker 2: So the first thing she put me on, which I
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  Speaker 2: was quite happy with. I was in Thailand, so it
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  Speaker 2: was legal cyberselling mushrooms, right, because where she treats, she
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  Speaker 2: treats the mind first before she gets the body. So
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  Speaker 2: she said cyberselling mushrooms to me, which is basically as
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  Speaker 2: strip as you will. And I was like, well, I'll
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  Speaker 2: have a go, because oh why not. You know. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: about halfway through this cybercillin treatment, like the first time
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  Speaker 2: I had it, I'd had a pain in my stummach
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  Speaker 2: for like years and years, but I mentally put it
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  Speaker 2: to the side. Yeah it went, So I thought, well,
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  Speaker 2: when I come out of this this experience, it's going
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  Speaker 2: to start again. It never came back. It never came
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  Speaker 2: back right, which got me sold on there or other
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  Speaker 2: types of medicines as well as the good stuff. You know.
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  Speaker 2: I broken my legs, broke me back, broken my fingers,
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  Speaker 2: broken my collar bones, done all that stuff. So it
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  Speaker 2: made it. Obviously there was something in here I was
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  Speaker 2: blocking that was causing the rest of the system to crash.
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  Speaker 2: And that was the beginning of the recovery and the
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  Speaker 2: grounding and there zallo bea and cyane pepper and low
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  Speaker 2: sugar and pH balance and and and and getting you
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  Speaker 2: blood testing and a proper hospital with proper doctors. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's been a journey. But I I was always positive.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's that's the thing. I think. The only time
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  Speaker 2: really that I lost the positivity was when I called
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  Speaker 2: you because I thought I ain't coming out of this.
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  Speaker 2: I've got I've gone back in again, and I thought, well,
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  Speaker 2: I'll say goodbye and wish you were fun farewell, because
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  Speaker 2: obviously you bring guests on to speak about themselves, but
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  Speaker 2: I was, well, having to say this, incredibly impressed with
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  Speaker 2: what you were doing when you ran a lunistic From
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  Speaker 2: John's end to Johnny Groat, Johnny lands End. Sorry, and
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  Speaker 2: I watched that laughing really just because it's like thinking
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  Speaker 2: that because basically but all the same, if you've been
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  Speaker 2: through that training, you're all nuts, but in a nice way,
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  Speaker 2: you know. And and from watching it from Vietnam, I
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  Speaker 2: was it sort of re re sparked my interest again
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  Speaker 2: in sort of talking to a former boot next because
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  Speaker 2: I've spoken a lot of contact really, so yeah, when
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  Speaker 2: I say I'm grateful to be here, I am very
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  Speaker 2: grateful to be here.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, Charlie. And you touched on something then,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm just flashing up that there's Le's Me book, folks.
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  Speaker 1: Charlie is very kind to talk about his host like that.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good book worth reading if you want to
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  Speaker 1: smash out some stuff. Is a state of mind, Charlie,
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  Speaker 1: we got something to get over as raw marines that
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  Speaker 1: I'd say probably most veterans, although ori ef probably something
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  Speaker 1: different again slightly different, and this is not a slur,
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  Speaker 1: but we got childhood trauma, buddy, and that is you
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  Speaker 1: know that leads to self medicating through life, whether that
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  Speaker 1: be through food, you know, over indulgence eating, whether it
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  Speaker 1: be through chemicals or split or obviously the big one alcohol,
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  Speaker 1: which we were taught to do really well. But had
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  Speaker 1: we not been taught, we probably would have taught ourselves
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  Speaker 1: quite well. Can you tell us a bit about your
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  Speaker 1: childhood before joining up?
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  Speaker 2: Well, all right, we lived in the Maxwell houses. You've
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  Speaker 2: heard of him, so financially I was at first my
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  Speaker 2: mum married another lady fifty years ago and then moved
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  Speaker 2: us to a North Wales village. Yeah now, there's still
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  Speaker 2: big news now here. So moved to North Wales village
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  Speaker 2: and I was classed as English. They didn't know as well,
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  Speaker 2: so when I got there, I didn't get a hero.
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  Speaker 2: It was welcome. I basically hit in my bedroom for
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  Speaker 2: a year, scared to come out because for one reason
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  Speaker 2: or another it wasn't socially acceptable. My mom was a
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  Speaker 2: man at tillo the mom might used to call her,
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  Speaker 2: and she had a part and it was quite quite
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  Speaker 2: good looking as it goes. But I was traumatized there
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  Speaker 2: and I hid for the first year, and then one
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  Speaker 2: day decided, well I'd rather get punched in the face
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  Speaker 2: than send the bedroom, you know, so out I came
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  Speaker 2: fighting and took that ethos with I did. From that
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  Speaker 2: point really, I was putting to King's College, rough In,
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  Speaker 2: which was quite a very posh private school. John Lennon
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  Speaker 2: some was there at the same time, so from the
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  Speaker 2: outside initially I looked very privileged. But then my mum
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  Speaker 2: was a screaming alcoholic and God bless her the last
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  Speaker 2: twenty four years of li I sheared to AA and
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: never dragged another drop and recovered and became a multi
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  Speaker 2: millionaire and opened up care homes and completely changed her life.
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  Speaker 2: But obviously these things have an effect on you. So
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  Speaker 2: I got pulled out of private school and put into
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  Speaker 2: like normal school in little village in North Wales, and
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  Speaker 2: everybody knew my mum was a lesbian, which at the
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  Speaker 2: time was huge news here, and so every day I'd
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  Speaker 2: be having a fight because somebody was mentioned he almost
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  Speaker 2: a lesbian, and I'd be like real defending, you know,
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  Speaker 2: fell defending the run. So I was. I wasn't a
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  Speaker 2: natural born scrapper, but through fear, and that's what it is, fear,
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  Speaker 2: I became a fighter, if you will, because I found
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  Speaker 2: it less painful to fight than to hide.
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  Speaker 1: So that was my child.
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  Speaker 2: And then I went to Indefatigable, which was a naval
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  Speaker 2: training school, which is now the armed services are outdoor
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  Speaker 2: pursuits place on anglesy so I was privileged again there.
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  Speaker 2: But I was bording from the edge of a Chris,
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  Speaker 2: which I would never do to my kids. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: not something I never send my kids away. Hey, But nevertheless,
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  Speaker 2: she thought she was doing the right thing. I think
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  Speaker 2: kids should be with the mom and dad at home
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  Speaker 2: and go to a good school show. So I was traumatized, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but I got over it with exercise, with running, with
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  Speaker 2: being stronger, and basically I was fighting myself until I
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  Speaker 2: was about fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: Really, yeah, I think we all do, Charlie, which is
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  Speaker 1: why I think it's great, great to have this conversation
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  Speaker 1: before we come on to the rest of your life. So, friends,
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  Speaker 1: Charlie's over there in Vietnam. He's a highly specialist in
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  Speaker 1: things like blockchain, knows more about AI and crypto than
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  Speaker 1: I'm ever ever going to And we're going to come
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  Speaker 1: on to all that stuff. But you mentioned we mentioned alcohol.
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  Speaker 1: Your alcohol free as referred to.
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  Speaker 2: I'd like to say that I was completely alcohol free.
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  Speaker 2: But every time I say to myself I have to stop,
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  Speaker 2: it makes me want to do it more. So I
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  Speaker 2: give myself the freedom of one of a beer. I
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  Speaker 2: have one, but I don't do three bottles of vodka anymore,
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  Speaker 2: which I did do in the past.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think alcohol free can. I think it's certainly
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  Speaker 1: something that you can aspire to even if you do
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  Speaker 1: have the odd drink. And I'm not here to get
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  Speaker 1: into idiosyncrasies, do you know what I mean? What I
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  Speaker 1: mean is is I think once you realize the general
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  Speaker 1: philosophy that you know, alcohol is not really that good
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  Speaker 1: for us. Yes, you could argue in moderation, but there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of argument out there that says, well, really,
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  Speaker 1: what's what's the you know? Do you do you know
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  Speaker 1: how much drinking in moderation costs you in terms of finance, well,
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  Speaker 1: from relationships, et cetera. But anyway, like I say, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not here to get into the weeds. I just wanted
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  Speaker 1: to know what did you feel. You know, we've both
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  Speaker 1: been heavy drinkers. What did you feel with the benefits
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  Speaker 1: of kicking it into touch.
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  Speaker 2: I can't say I've completely kicked into should be lying
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  Speaker 2: for the most part. Yeah, okay, Well, in Vietnam you
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  Speaker 2: can't kick it into touch because if you're get invited
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  Speaker 2: to the Brigadier general's dinner and he offers you a drink, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and you don't take one. It's it's a real I'm
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  Speaker 2: saying to the right, I've got I'm with the first
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  Speaker 2: Sea Lord, I've got terminal something, and I can't take
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  Speaker 2: any drink at all. And he spoke prevent English and
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  Speaker 2: he wasn't having it. So sometimes I can't avoid it.
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  Speaker 2: So what do I think about it? I think it's
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  Speaker 2: probably the most considious, horrendous thing ever invented for mankind
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  Speaker 2: that's been well sold. That's what I think about. Call
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  Speaker 2: being clean er, not cleanest cleaner. And as the fog
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  Speaker 2: clears over the years, you realize just how much you missed, really,
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  Speaker 2: and we were trained in such a way that you
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  Speaker 2: did well. We all used to go out and get trunk,
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  Speaker 2: and if it was a bad day, we'd all go
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  Speaker 2: and get drunk, and if we were a bit bored,
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  Speaker 2: we'd all go and get drunk. So every road led
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  Speaker 2: to a beer. And when I was left to my
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  Speaker 2: own devices, being greedy, because I am greedy, nothing be
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  Speaker 2: success like excess. Ask a wild I would I could drink.
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  Speaker 2: I could drink three bottles of vodka and still function,
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  Speaker 2: which wasn't good, you know, so leaving it behind the
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  Speaker 2: clarity you have is off the charts, you don't because
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  Speaker 2: I was operating in a world of mush, making dose
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  Speaker 2: decisions and blah blahlah. So when you stop drinking, you
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  Speaker 2: wonder where you ever started, That's all I'll say. But
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  Speaker 2: I don't try and preacher anybody, because everyone's got their
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  Speaker 2: own journey, and when you're ready, you're ready, and whatever
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  Speaker 2: your time of readiness is. People talk about a rock bottom.
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  Speaker 2: I'd gone down much further than I was when I stopped.
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  Speaker 2: So when I decided I'd had enough of just getting
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  Speaker 2: absolutely smashed all the time drunk, I started to feel
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  Speaker 2: the success of a city life. Before that point, things
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  Speaker 2: were not going well at all, to be honest, So
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  Speaker 2: clarity's lovely. I don't claim to be a saint. I
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  Speaker 2: just claim that I'm doing better than I used a
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  Speaker 2: lot better than I used to do.
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  Speaker 1: Have that, yeah good. I just want to highlight these things, Charlie.
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  Speaker 1: And we're not lecturing people, because how can we. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I was off my head for probably well. I was addicted, certainly,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, dealing with addiction, you could say for
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: forty five years and out of that, I was off
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  Speaker 1: my head for thirty to thirty five years. And we're
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  Speaker 1: just talking to people out there that, like us, may
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: have found themselves on the wrong side of it. And
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  Speaker 1: I one thing I would say is when I watch
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  Speaker 1: TV now with my family and I think, why the
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  Speaker 1: hell did I used to do this with a beer
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  Speaker 1: in my hand? Like it it served nothing except to
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  Speaker 1: trash my next morning. It's so nice to be sat
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: there watching someone with a family, knowing that at four
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  Speaker 1: o'clock the next morning or five, if I ever lay in,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be up running in the beautiful early
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  Speaker 1: morning sun, listening to the birds, going on to smash
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: my day in a life that I created, you know.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: So that's the reason I mentioned it, Charlie. I think
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: it gives people out there who are maybe a little
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: bit shy about admitting that it's become a problem for
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: them to see old duffers like us say, get rid
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: If you if you can have the odd drink and
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: it doesn't knock you off the wagon, fine, if you can't,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: just stop trying to kid yourself. You're the life and
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: soul of the party when it's you know, anyway, loads
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I want to talk talk, talk talk to you about.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to in no particular order, how did
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: you negotiate? Because when we come out of the Marines,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: and so many of us would come from traumatized childhoods,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I think the statistic would probably be I think eighty
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: six percent of veterans have experienced some form of neglect, abuse, trauma,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: whatever it might be. It might be something as mild
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: as a peri divorce, but something. How did you negotiate?
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: And then we come out of the military, and of
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: course that umbrella we've had for maybe it was ten
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: years in my case seven, some people's cases twenty to
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: suddenly that framework and that getting paid twenty four to
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: seven in sickness and health just as long as you
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: say yes sir, even when you don't really mean it.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: It's a big safety net, all your health care laid on,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: you know, always a timetable on the Monday what you're
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: doing for the week. And of course we go out,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: we find out that working with civilians. No disrespect to
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: wonderful civilians, but it takes some getting used to for
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: us because there's different rules. Not saying they're always better
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: or worse. It's just different and once and it really
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: was different. Took me a long time, Charlie to realize
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: if you had a difference with someone, you didn't offer
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: him outside to sort it out. That I really that's
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: how kind of fucking deluded i'd been growing up. And
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: of course, then if you start self medicating, the spiral
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: starts and you start to go down, and then of course,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: you know, the wife says, sorry, honey, I'm taking the
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: kids to Grandma's. We can't be around you. When then
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: you get more depressed, you self medicate more. Next thing
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: you know, you haven't paid the bills. Next thing you know,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: you're on the street. And obviously there's a worse scenario.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I won't even mention. But how did you get from
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: the Marines then to be a business success in Asia?
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Well that's a good question, and I'm going to give
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: you an answer that's as good as I can be. Really,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: when I left the Marines due to because I basically
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: failed my PC course because I didn't tell them. I
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: broke my back twice. But I couldn't do the class
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: taking because one side was developing and one side wasn't.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: But I wouldn't tell them. They couldn't work out what
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: was wrong because I was a trathlee, I was a
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: core boxing champion, blah blah blah. So they just couldn't
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: work out why I couldn't get through it. I couldn't
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: tell them that I get thrown it anyway. I got
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: a compassionate short discharge, which basically means I get to
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: leave with full rights and full pension rights. And I
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: had a war pension. But I had enough if i'd
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: done you know, King's College, Roughing's uniform and indefasketball was uniform.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I was at four or five commander. In the end,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: I was put up back in four or five commando
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: because I failed my PC course because I'm a back.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: I didn't tell anybody, but on Christmas Day I was
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: the guard commander for four or five commander. Right, I'm
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: twenty six years old where it was twenty five years old.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: And the young officer came in and he's very nice.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I've got to do. His name was and how are
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: you called the chaplain? Yes, sir, fine, so thing very much.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Happy Christmas christ to you. I had a bottle of
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: whiskey under the table, I think at the time, and
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: I called my mother up and said, look, I can't
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: do this anymore. I just cannot do this anymore. I'm
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: awake to what's happening. I realize where I am. It's
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: not what I want to do. I've done past all
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: me tests or whatever. I've got my green beery wood
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: be yeah, and all that, I've proven my manhood. I
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: want to get out. My mum was now fully recovered
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: as psychology doctor psychology. And she says to me, right
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: when the officer's gone getting your car, drive down her
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: express where you live and check yourself into. We used
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: to call it a nutshouse, right, I don't know, I
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: don't even know what they call it in the UK.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: But basically a mental institution. Tell them you're not well
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: and U and I'll instructure from there. So that's what
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: I did. I checked into a mental institution. A guy
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: called Rob Toomey who got an ob in the end,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: and Lisa who took me in there. And I was
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: basically having a bit of a breakdown anyway. It wasn't
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: like it was a I was I bad enough, of course. Yeah,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I just couldn't do it anymore. And I wasn't going
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: back to Ireland. Yeah, I realized the waste of time
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: that was for us as people and for the Irish
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: looking at the both sides of it. So I was
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: in this this mental institution for two weeks and they
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: sent a navy nurse down to assess me. And the
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Navy nurse made the assessments of look, you know, this
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: guy's the trauma and the sub he's been through. Let's
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: give him a compassionate shore discharge, which they did. So
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I was very happy to leave. Yeah, So I packed
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: my bags through my my my brooksack on and made
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: to Ine was working in Bali. He said, he said,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: come over and see me. So I did, and I
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: flew to Bali after leaving, like you know, a few weeks.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: And it was the days before we all had mobile phones,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: if you can remember those. We'd forgotten about the time
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: difference yere so Bari was like seven or eight hours
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: difference in the UK. He was meant to pick me
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: up the airport at a designated time. That was the
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: only contact I had for him. Of course, we'd forgotten
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: about that. So I'm at the airport, landed in Bali
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, where's Pete? Wasn't there? I don't know,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: if you've been to Barli, you've be into Bali. I
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: don't know anyway, the airport's actually in the middle of
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: the island, not like forty minutes away from the central Bangkok. However,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: it's in the middle of the island, so you could
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: walk out of the airport and you're in Bali. Yeah,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: and thirty years less, twenty nine years ago, it was
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: just just it was beautiful. Yeah, there was one minute
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: in the crazines sex minute. I still got me pussed
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: as a green burger on and I'm walking down but
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know anybody. I've got one hundred quid in
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: my pocket. Yeah, because I meant to meet my mate
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: AND's got accommodation. Yeah. And I came to this resort
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: and I remember, I remember it forever. Got me back
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: back on my bergen on. I walked into this resort
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: and they had a pool, big pool, and a corner
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: of each of the pool was a great big lion
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: said we walk coming out. Now, that's crass now, But
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: at the time I was like, and around this pool
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: with all these villas and I was like God, So
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I went in there, sat down, didn't tell my bergen
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I sat in the chair with Bergenon ordered a glass
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: of water. But of course I'm about six hours into balley.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm going to do. And whether
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: you believe in God, a higher power, whatever your whatever
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: you want to want, I want to call it and
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: I do now. Well I didn't that I was an atheist.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: But the villain in front of me across the pool, Pete,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: the guy that's meant to meet me, remember the listed
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: hundreds of results there, walked out the villa, went Charlie.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I went Pete. He went, what are you doing here?
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: I said, well, my flight landed like six hours ago.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: He said, how do you know?
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Is this?
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I didn't know is it?
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: So he came over to me and we started talking.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: He said you want to work here? And I was like,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: what do you mean? Said you want to work on
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: this resort. I went, yeah, I do. He said, well
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: you got a job. That's your villa there and pointed
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: the billa next to us. I was so happy, I
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: ran and jumped in the pool. I forgot am bergen On.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: So that's how my civilian life sided.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Amazing. And you know, did you have hurdles to cross
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: before you finally got established. Oh, I'm talking to someone
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: who land who landed in Southeast Asia and ended up homeless.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I was your transition.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Well, I got there and I got a job working
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: for a resort, a royal company, a royal resort company,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: and I found I was pretty good at sort of
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: direct sales, so very quickly I got made up to
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: like middle management and then higher management, and then I
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: started making a lot of money, which I didn't know
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: how to control, because anybody can be controlled when they've
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: got no money. It's easy. You can't. You can't go
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: off and be you know, fly off here or girls there,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: or you know, spending your money on skimmed into whatever
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: you're going to do. I started in about sort of
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: the equivalent then of about ten thousand pounds a week,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: which is, you know, a decent wage, but I was
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: spending it, yeah, on on on the on, the party,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: and then there was a rapid decline and then long
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: story short, about twenty years ago, or if I'm going
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: to tell the truth, I end my rock bottom was
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: a rubbish stump in Manila, which is class as the
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: worst place in the world to live, which I lived
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: for two years and was the best experience of my life.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: So that was my rock bottom. But I was feeling
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: so sorry for myself. Yeah, I was this and I
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: was that, and I had the car, and I was
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: the best at this, and I always won and traveled
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: on boxing. I was full of pride, Chris, absolutely full
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: of pride. So living on that rubbish stump in Manila
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: for two years with these people that had nothing, and
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: when I say nothing, I mean nothing. The kids would
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: go out in the morning in one set's uniform, the
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: mom and dad going in the rubbis stump to collect
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: a plastical out to sell to get enough money together.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: But when the kids came home for their one meal,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: which they'd share with me, yeah, which is you know,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: it's a beautiful thing, right, They had one light bulb,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: one tap. Yeah, no floor, just cardboard boxes literally separating them.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: For the first six weeks I sat there. I suppose
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: the word you'd use would be catatonic because I couldn't sing.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: And then one day I watched this guy and this
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: happy family that had nothing, you know, no no material
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: wealth at all, but we're really happy and there was less.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Number One, it ain't about the money. Yeah, money doesn't
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: do it. Money causes just as many problems as it's solved.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: So that was my start with my if you want
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: my real Sibby life. And then I I went back again,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: not fully complete, still with the old bad habits, but
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: appreciating what I've got. Does that make sense?
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, So you you had an epiphany basically.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: That's well, that's the word for it. I woke the Uh.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting you mentioned Bob to me. We were
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: we're on the potential. They call it the potential Rule
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Marines course, now don't they. We We we called it
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: the PRC back in our day. It's the little test friends,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: that you do too. It's not a little test, is
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: a three day endurance. He beasting to see if you've
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: got what it takes to join the Rual Marines. And
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Bob and I were Fireman's carry partners on it.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: He's a lovely fella.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's always been absolutely super super bloke. And yes,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: and you mentioned Manila. I fell in love in Manila.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: That's another story. I fell in love two things in Manila,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: and I think I think you know what one of
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: them was.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Both of them are.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: So and we should also say that the reason I
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: kind of highlight the childhood trauma thing is it's the
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: military are never going to admit to this. The government
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: are never going to look into it. I mean, can
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: we talk about your dad or is that.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: No? No, they won't classify his records. He was I
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: got told he was dreaming, so that's all I knew.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just thought that you saw your dad? How
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: many times?
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Six times in my life?
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Six times because he was in the Special Forces. But
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: they told me really, yeah, but you know, I don't
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: think being in special Forces meant that's why he didn't
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: see you. Although they are away a lot, which is.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: A he was in fourteen ish, yeah, that sort of stuff,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: so it was a way for six seven years ago.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: So you I mean, they say the dad don't know
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: the fathers that a boy's most important role model.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Well, now, thank god that it's been recognized. The dads
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: are important in those very important and just and so
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: of course mothers are as well. Dads have a purpose
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: and moms have a purpose. And we are despite what
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: we're being told, we are different. We have good sides
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: and bad sides. But without a father, I mean, my
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: mom was a father. She was a teller of the mom.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: She was a hard woman. She knocked me out. She
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: knocked me out so many times, so she was the man.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: But without discipline in the family, the kids run riot.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: And of course you need some form of grounding if
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: you will to get things done. You also need a
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: bit of love in which mum brings in. Don't get
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: me wrong, you know a lot of people are scared
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: of the mom, they of the father. But the mix
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: works very well as a generalization. But the same sex marriage,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: that would that traumatize me for sure, But it's not
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: something I want to cry about now. All the bad
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: things that have happened in my life change me for
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: the better in the end, you know. So I'm grateful
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: for all the shit I've had. Can I say that word?
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I've said it well, for all the crap I went through.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're making a point I talk a lot about.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Is you only learn stuff in life by having a
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: tough time of it. You know, if you have everything
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: and to you're on a silver plate, there's no learning,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: there's no learning in it. So how you noted? I
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: think this is why some of the elites they lack empathy,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: is they you know, they've never had to know what
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: real sort of hardship him. But then again I guess
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: probably a lot of them will also have. So, yes,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: what is the appeal then of Southeast Asia?
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Uh? And you're at the beginning or now?
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Well, I was I serve with a chap called Terry, right,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Jordie lad, very very very nice bloke. And anyway, George
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: says to me one day we were talking about pollution
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: and he was saying, how back then in the nineties
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: they were making a big thing about pollution in Britain
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: because the whole climate thing was coming to and he
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: looked at me out way, Amen, they didn't nah anything
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: about pollution. Man, you need to get that tailan, get
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: that Bangkok man. Right, Sorry for the shit impression, but
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: basically what he's saying is if you want to see pollution,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: go to Bangkok. And this is obviously thirty thirty five
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: years ago. So I got on. I got an indulgence
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: like the Hong Kong for thirty quid yeah with British Airways,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: drank about sixty quids worth a booze blitz ran, yeah
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: blitz around Hong Kong. Got caught up in a gun
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: gun battle by chap called Yip Kaifoon, if anyone wants
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: to google that very famous or search engine it, I
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: should say very famous Chinese gangster Yip Kai Fun.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: And I was.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: I came out of Mad Dogs on New Year's Eve.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: I think it was just a roundabout ninety one folks
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: might be ninety two and forty people were dead in
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: the street outside, had been killed in a crush when
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: everyone rushed out the bars to celebrate the New year.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: So anyway, cut long story short. I tried to get
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: a flight to Manila because I thought, oh, go to Manila,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: you know that sounds interesting. Missed the flight, so I said,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: just tell me what you've gotten next. She said, we've
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: got Bangkok in twenty five minutes. I said, get me
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: on it. I always remember it because it's the first
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: time I came across this thing, which you'll be aware
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: of where you go in a toilet. I'm talking like
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: the toilet on the plane, an English style toilet, And
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: there's footprints on the seat, and I knew I was
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: in a different world, Charlie. And other than the footprints
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: on the seat, I loved it. I landed in Bangkok,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: got me, got in a fight with a bouncer in
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: the pink Panther Bar. Yeah, it was that back. Yeah,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Nana Plaza, I'm getting and it was I can't quite remember,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: but that was quite interesting and it was amazing Charlie.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Just being there was such a massive eye opener for
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: a young English marine and I just want to say, what, So,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: what's it? What's Southeast Age? You're like?
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Now, Well, when when I got here, it was the
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: poor side of the world. Yeah, so I had a
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: very similar experience to you. Don't get me wrong. I
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: was in Nanoplaza most nights. When I got to Bangkok
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: or Soy Cowboy and did all the usual, it was
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: different then. Yeah, it was CD. It was a CD city,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: had an underbelly to it. It was very polluted, but
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: it was great fun, right, yeah, especially for us lot
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: that I basically got the same as you. Some guys said,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: have you been to Bankok? I said no, planting one
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: of my mates there was an ex company, said Charlie,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: don't you ever go to Thailand? Which is the red
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: rag to a ball? Obviously, so I thought, I've got
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: a tiland and have a look. My mate checked me
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: into Nana Plaza Hotel and I went across the road
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: and I thought I'd landed in heaven.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was noisy, loud, alive, happening, social, crazy, nuts,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: all the stuff we love, right or we loved at
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: the time. So Bangkok to mean, it was just like
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: an amazing experience for a while until hedonism got hold
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: of itself again and you know what happens to that.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it was dirty at the time. But I've
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: recently been ran back to Bangkok. It's a completely different city.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: It's completely it's cosmopolitan, it's clean, the buildings of gold
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: and shiny, and it's beautiful, and the Queen Conference Center
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: down there, you've got the nanoplause and the soy cowboys
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: still go, but they're dying out, you know, Thailand. As
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Europe's coming down, and this is the financial side of it.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: I never planned to get rich here. Europe came down
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: and Southeast Age is just going up and up and
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: up and up and up, because they're worth the ethic
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: and that their family ethics are so strong and their
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: business ethics are so much better than we're taught in
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: our educational system. You know, we're sort to save our money.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: They're taught to invest it. So it was never a
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: plan to get rich in Asian. I was just having
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: a nice time, you know, Chris.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got you. The Thailand cooled down. If I
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: say the old medical procedure, you know what I'm talking about,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, didn't Thai royalty they lost somebody to
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: it or someone got really hurt, and they yeah, it
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: was yes.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Sorry, I didn't. Just give me one second because I
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: need to plug in it. I don't know what's yeah
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: me the second, hold on one second, one second, all.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Right, You're absolutely fine from.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: This end, Okay, No, I'm it's it's power. I'm losing power, Scotty. Right,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: what was the question again?
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Just saying that, you know, I love Thailand obviously, I've
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: been there about four times now. I've got family over there,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: and I felt gutted for them when the medical thing
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: come up and they was all buying into it, and
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: I was like, Thailand, you are renowned. They always say
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: the last place the New World Order will have to
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: overcome will be Thailand because the people will always fight back.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: And when I saw them just buying that hooky narrative,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: hook line and sinker, I was just a bit gutted.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: But then finally I believe one of the royal family
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: got really you know, bore the brunt of their decisions,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: you could say, as in having a certain medical procedure,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: and then there was a backlash against it.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: I well, I was actually with the Brigadier General and
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: the first Sea Lord Thailand last week.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: And when she got sick because she rolled her arm
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: up a sleeve up, yeah, they sent three of the
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: best doctors in the world to assess what the problem was. Yeah,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: and they all came back with the cause by rolling
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: a sleeve up. Yeah, categorically. And these weren't like some
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: sort of paid shills. These were like the best that
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: money could buy. And then the Ties very quickly worked
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: out that don't roll his sleeve up. So she probably
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: saved millions of lives, to be honest in the end.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: And the Ties and the vietnames are very similar. They
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: won't get involved in other people's wars, but don't attack
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: their country. You're going to lose, you know. But they
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: don't get involved in wars and political stuff. They just
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: get on with their own self. In Vietnam, do you
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: want to get a slightly on that subject, They really
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: worked most weren't ever sold too much on that to be.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Honest, yeah, good it was. I think you mentioned it
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: to me. If you flag this sort of thing up
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: in the veterans community, which is generally via Facebook groups,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: isn't it you get that kind of staunch, indoctrinated conservative
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: that oh that's nonsense. They never done me any arm.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: And it was awful. I saw a very prominent individual.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not even going to give any details because I'm
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: not into like backstabbing, but very prominent individual in the
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: veterans community, you could say. And he was literally obsessed
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: with trying to get people to have it. And I
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, mate, and I know him, I've met
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: him on several occasions, and I just thought, I wish
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: I could speak to you, but I know you'd never live.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: And you think you know it all. You know, you
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: think because what we had done to us in the military,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: which was nothing short of ultra criminal, you think that
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: because we had that done to us when we was
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: like teenagers, and you know, you perceive that nothing happened
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: to you, then therefore it anyway.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: If I could just say my feast on that again.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: One of the I went to get blood in London
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: years ago after I left the cars holiday back in
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: in the UK and we were on Spearhead to go
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: to northern Iraq. This was like in nineteen ninety one.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: I believe when they got they were meant to be
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: bombing the curves with must have gas and all the
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: rest of it. So four or five commander were out
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: to not in Irac to create safe haven for the curves.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: And remember this, so we were first, very well, next company, right,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: the first company to go. So the day before we've
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: told we're going all our kids back, ready to go,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: go to sick back and get your rollie sleeve up
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: and get your inoculations for yellow fever and all the
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: rest of it. Yeah, so I think we had eight
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: or nine jabs in one go. Bang.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Anyway, everyone's pretty sick for a while just because of
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: the malarious stuff and the tablets and you know, you know,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: we took what were told to take. Years later, obviously
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: I didn't die or anything. Years later I went to
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: get blood in London. So I went in and the
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: nurse put the needle in and started taking the blood out,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: drew the curtains and disappeared for a while, and then
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: she came back about two minutes later, open the curtains like,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: well no, no, no, no, I'm like what what what?
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: What?
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: She took out my arms? You can never give blood?
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: And I've gone, what do you mean? I can never
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: get blood? You can never give blood? Now, they hadn't
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: test them my blood by then, for sure. Yeah, I
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: think they call it Gulf War syndrome now me but
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: because they changed the name to avoid the the anyway
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: steep as you need to go. So I knew at
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: that point whatever I'd had was not good. Yeah, and
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: when I got my blood Big Sea termalized. I'm pretty
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: sure that there was stuff in there that they used
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: to get There was almost a test therapy that was
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: used there, because they test military all the time. I'm
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: going to say that because it's it's printed in this
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: common knowledge, it's released, so it's not like it's a
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: new new phenomena. They've been doing it for years. And
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: if you remember, when you're in the core, you could
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: actually go away for a couple of weeks, get paid
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: next to one thousand or two thousand pounds and be
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: tested on different drugs. And they used to promote that. Yeah.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: So when the ai A being one and I being nine,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: think about it, Yeah, when the AI virus came in. Yeah,
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: I sat the family down. My family here, got a
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: big family here now, and I said to them, listen,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on, but I can see
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: sort of like similar things happening here that happened to me.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: So there's just forewarned before on, before you go do
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: your own research. Of course, I'm a little fat guy
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: from North Wales and Vietnam.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: What do I know?
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Right? So what did they do? Not my little girls?
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: That was like a no, no, yeah, everyone got it anyway,
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: and two have gone obviously, you know, to do with that?
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Surely somebody else got the big sea. Somebody else got
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: the big sea. I've looked at the figures here and
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: it's not good. It's not good, Chris. That's that's all
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I can say.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Mate, you're talking to someone four of my immediate family
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: work seriously, seriously affected. It's not my business to be
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: telling their business, but you know, preaching the choiry mate.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: It's I think part of the reason this is going
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: to slip by the bye is that when someone goes
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: down people that are still in that matrix. You know,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: I believe the BBC way of thinking just associate that
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: was something completely irrelevant to what happened in twenty twenty two,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: and the like, you know, they're like, oh no, you
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: know he's he you know he was fifty six. But yeah,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: it was very surprising. He just dropped down. And but
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: I think that's why you get away of it. I
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: think it's too it's just about I think in life
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: you've got to have anchors into different areas to understand
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: the big picture. And if you have never ever bothered
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: to put anchors out into anything, because you just watch
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: you see an end news as it scrolls twenty four
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: to seven. You know, you go off, you do your job,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: you come home, and then you have your two holidays
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: a year. I think there's a lot of kind of
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: you know, you're expecting too much of people to And
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: he's not slagging off people. It's just the way life is,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: isn't it. I'm just glad that glad that I'm aware
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: of it and that I can steer my family in
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: a different direction. So yes, And of course in Vietnam
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: famous golfer Tonkin incident, wasn't there that another one that
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: went that slips by the bye. It's incredible, these huge,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: huge crimes can you tell us a bit about that.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Well, when I was in the military, where a green bear,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: a commander all that. Who, Yeah, obviously you're sold on
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: that particular agenda. When I came out, I had a
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: bit of a an epiphanyes you want to call it.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: I woke up to lots of other people's opinions, Irish
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: people I used, so obviously was programmed not to like
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: Indonesian Muslims or I really got on with most of them.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: And I found out that whether you were in Wales, Germany, France,
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: Spain or whatever, basically people all the same. There's good
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: and bad in everything, you know. So I lost the
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: programming and I came out side of my C and
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: n BBC binoculars and opened my mind up and realize
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: just how propagandised i'd been. I mean, I always say
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: that the Bullshit Buggery Corporation, yeah, are the best propaganda
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: in the world because they make the British public pay
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: for it. Right, So that's really that's pretty clever right
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: when you if you think about it from there of
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: their perspective, And as I awoke, it was painful at
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: the beginning because it shatters all your allusions to what
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: you've been programmed to do, and and it hurt. And
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: even now still it's sort of like, what was it
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: doing there? You know? But every body that governs, anybody
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: wherever you are across the world has an agenda, and
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely, and that's a
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: problem with governance. In my humble opinion, I think.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: I think it's spot on me. I wouldn't say it's
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: just your opinion. That was Lord Acton, wasn't it.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: And so.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: We had, from my understanding, Charlie, you had a lot
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: of business interested invested in Vietnam. Back the French had
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: obviously already been in trying to colonize or colonizing Vietnam,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: and they got their ass handed to them. Then then
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: the Americans started a build up of what they called
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: military advisors, which basically was the precursor to I don't
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: want to say invasion because that sounds honorable occupation, I
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: suppose you could say. And of course they need You
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: had all these companies, these petroleum companies in the country,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: and the last thing they wanted was a incursion from
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: the north. And they needed they needed their their pearl harbor,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: didn't They just well, yeah, I mean if.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: Living here, I did realize that three million Vietnamese is
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: staff to death, did you know? No, right, I'll give
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: you a quick in essence, what's happening in Vietnam. No,
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: he's ever beat the Vietnamese, And if you ever come
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: here and meet them, you realize why right, they will
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: not break ranks. Yeah, maybe the new generation now are
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: a little bit physically and mentally weaker because it's you know,
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: it's turned into a beautiful country to be in. It's immaculate,
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: it's rich, it's thriving. But going back to the old
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: days when they had the false flag, I remember watching
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: Pierce Morgan with I can't remember the name of the
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Navy seal, but he was a congressman in America, long hair,
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: it used to be a professional wrestler of all things.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: And he's telling Pierce Morgan about something happened on the
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: eleventh of the night or something, yeah, and how he
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: thought that was a false flag. And Pierce Morgan was like,
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: just could knot absorb it at all? And then he
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: went onto the Tonkin incidant, which actually started off the
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Vietnamese invasion, as every incident does, which whether you want
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: to call it Ai, whether you want to call it
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: golver Tonkin, Rothshaw, whatever you want to call it, there's
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: got to be a reason for the for the people
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: to rise up, and that they attacked their own ship. Documented,
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: the Americans attacked their own shipping, the gulver Tonkin, the
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: sailors are floating there, that they actively stopped them being saved,
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: and they finished their own their own navy off. They
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: reported that it's all documented. This is new news, this
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: is absolute fact. Look it up. They reported that, you know,
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: back on the on the on the so called media propagandas,
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: and then of course the communism was bad and all
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: communists were bad, and then socialism was bad. Listen, I've
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: lived in lots of places all over the world. I
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: really have lived, did not not traveled and lived in them.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: I've never lived anywhere, but I've never seen a homeless
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: person of you, Well, that's Vietnam. I've never lived anywhere.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: You get top medical care, vision, nothing, that's Vietnam. So
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: this is communism. I'm all in, all right, I've given
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: up on democracy. I just think it's an illusion. That's
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: just my humble opinion.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: You know, Yes, it was Jesse Ventura, wasn't it.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: That's it, that's his name.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Jesse Ventura. He also sued Chris Kyle. You
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: know that the just I'm just showing a clip of
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: it now, Charlie, I can't play the volume, folks. Where
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: are we that was? That's that's Jesse Ventura, former Navy
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: seal back in the days when I think he was
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: in Vietnam, back in its sort of all early for
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: mat and he walked into a bar once and there
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: were Navy seals in it, young Navy seals, and Chris Kyle,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: aka the American Sniper, claimed that Jesse Ventura had started
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: talking about the events in New York and Washington twenty
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: years ago. I never say that number, but those events
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: and that all the Navy seals had turned around told
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: him to shut up, and Chris carl had knocked him out,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: and it was complete. It was completely untrue. So Jesse
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: Venture I think sued Chris Carle. He took an awful
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Chris Carl wrote it in his memoir that you know,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: this is one of the most famous Navy seals in history.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Chris Kyle so famous they made a film about him.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: You imagine him having something say something about you that
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: it's not true. It was a bit was a bit unfair,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: but yes, go for Tonkin and I think a little
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: bit like what we're seeing in Ukraine. They spun that
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: one out, didn't they.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm gonna say something now that maybe I shouldn't say. Okay,
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: but I'm gonna say it. And it's something to become
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: controversial because they don't know be flagged on YouTube. But
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: there's a sounding joke in Ukraine. Lewensky used to be,
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: you know, used to be a comic that the president
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: of Ukraine now used to be basically a comic. Yeah,
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: there was a long bit funny. Right, he's worth billions.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: Now there's wages fifty thousand a year, but he's worth
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: and he's declared it billions. He's got houses in Miami,
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: he's got houses in Monaco. He's got huge pieces of
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: land all across Europe. Yeah, all on fifty thousand dollars
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: a year income. So we introduce that probably he had
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: other investments that came in nngo's and all the rest
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: of it. They were moving a lot of money around
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: in crypto. Yeah, because obviously before years ago, there was
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: actually no rules to it at all. So it did
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: attract the good and the bad and the ugly. And
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: I will tell you now that for all the money
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: that was going to Ukraine, you'd be looking at five
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: or ten percent God to the extrall source. I know
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: this because I helped the move some of it. That's all.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: I'll say.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: Well, you've only got a look at who brought Zelensky
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: to power, and that was a chap called Colin Moyski,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: who was if you if you understand a bit about it,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: he's the third richest man in Ukraine if I say
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: big club and people understand what I'm talking about. And yeah,
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Colin Moyski also funded as of Brigades. So Colin Moyski, Ah,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: he funded a right wing nationalist militia, which if you
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: know Colin Moyski is background, you know, completely doesn't make
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: you know, completely doesn't make sense. And he also founded
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: a TV and film film company, and that film company
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: paid for Zelensky to be in a film called Voice
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: of the People, where Zelensky played. Zelensky came from making
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: like gay sn M films. I don't mean like pop
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: pop pop videos, yeah, yeah, yeah, and and and and
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: he was like cherry picked, I guess because the reason
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: they cherry pickle politicians, I would imagine that we might
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: be talking skeletons in the closet here. But anyway, they
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: cherry picked him for this TV program in which he
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: played an incorruptible school teacher who was so virtuous that
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: he became the president of Ukraine. And of course the
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: people love the TV program so much that when Kolomoyski,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: you know, put Zelenski forward for Prime Minister, of course
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: it was a dune. You know, it was a done deal.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: And then of course Zelenski's job is just just funnel
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: siphon off as much money from the from the Western taxpayer,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: from the you know, very well meaning, but some would
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: say naive British public, American public. Just keep keep pushing
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: a war narrative, keep pushing the evil pootin It's going
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: to invade Europe, keep you know, pushing all this stuff
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: which has no evidence base whatsoever. And even to the
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: point where in the White House with Donald Trump the
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: other day in jd Vance he pulled out the pictures
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: of alleged prisoners of war, and it was at that
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: point where Trump just told him, shut up, you don't
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: hold any cards. You know, we see right through you.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: By the way, we want your minerals, we bring it.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: We're bringing black Rock in to steal them all. Basically, sorry,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: going off on one a bit there, child.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I hold myself back just because I've got
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: so much you can say, because when you open up
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: and you wake up, literally everything's inverted.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, absolutely, Just quickly touch on. There was a
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: program on Panorama last night about these alleged I'm just
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: going to call them special forces executions in the Middle East,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: in Afghanistan, and for the most part, from what I understand,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: haven't watched the program, Charlie, but I did read a
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: bit about it this morning, and it's alleged that, you know,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: lots of weapons being placed by people that they've just
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: taken out of the game, some allegedly as young as children,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: and all this kind of thing. And I just think
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: it's really simple. If you've got young men, very often
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: from very damaged backgrounds, put on an ego trip full
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: of testosterone, hyped up on call of duty where there's
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: no consequences, sent into war to prove themselves to be
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: a man, is it ever going to go a little
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: bit wrong.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: I think christ is the actual question you need to
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: ask exactly.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: And I'm not here to to be a duror Charlie.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: I don't fucking know when I wasn't there, and I
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: wouldn't judge anyone until actual facts came out. But this
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: is being said by former according to the is it BBC?
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: The panorama?
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: I don't well, you know, don't take this the wrong way,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: and I'm sure the BBC will say what they're going
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: to say. I like to get my new sources from
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: all over the BBC. I'd like to get a plethora
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: of sources. Here are the backs. You're young, You've been
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: trained to do a job. You are the edge of
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: the sphere, and there is collateral damage always in war.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: War should be illegal. To go out and murder anybody
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: should be illegal, especially for somebody else as well. All
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: war I'm talking about all war. So whether they were right,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: whether they were wrong, what I do know is I think,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, if they want to go to war,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: the people that said yes it should go yeah, like
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: you Jomber, Frank Jos, the Hollywood two tribes at a war, remember.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: That, yes, absolutely so if they were to war, they go.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: But if you want to send young men, highly trained,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: highly strong, damaged right with their green Berets or their
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: sbs or the sas or whatever they are, into those situations,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: you're going to get some bad outcomes. How can you
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: anybody justify killing anybody? Because I've met Russians and they're
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: all right. I'vet Ukrainians that are right. I've met welsh
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: people that are right, and I've met Indneas.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: No, mate, don't, don't just a way, stay within the
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: boundaries of truth. Please, my NaNs. My nan used to say,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: if you find a good Welshman, shoot him before he
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: turns back.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Well, that's because they couldn't colonize us. Well, you know
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Christia, that the insanity you should be
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: sending people over to another country basically to increase your
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: wealth when you've already got more money you can ever
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: spend you have. That's that was my journey to God,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: because I'm like, well, they've got all the power, they've
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: got all the money, what on earth is the point
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: of all this.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: Well, they've now got the lithium, mate, aren't they for
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: their hooky electric vehicles? That's what Afghan.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think if you want to be a politician,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: you should be instantly stopped, not allowed to be one.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: The only people who don't to be a politician, there's
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: they want to be a politician. To take the Gladier
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: sort of scenario the film, he didn't want it. He
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: didn't want to be the Emperor of Rome. He wanted
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: to just give Rome back to the republic. Yeah, Caesar
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: was the same. Yeah. The trouble is people that rise
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: in power are usually very weak people because they don't
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: speak up. They go with the narrative of above them.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: So what you end up with somebody weak in power,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: very corruptible, and that includes you know, let's say somebody
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: in the UK with the SS Yeah, only lucky people
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: look for Herdi posts on Facebook. Yeah, whoever, they would
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: be somebody likes the crack and likes to get snorted. Yeah,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: do you watch that program? Yeah? Because what you can't say, basically,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: if they want to be a politician, they shouldn't be allowed.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: The great thing about Vietnam is they don't have elections here.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: There's none of this we're better than they are, No,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: we're better than you, No, you're better than us, None
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: of that. If you've been in finance for thirty years,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: you'll be in charge of finance here, So that's pretty
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: well qualified. If you've been on agriculture for forty years,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: you'll be in charge of agriculture. That's pretty well qualified. Yeah,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: there's a system so people in the UK will be
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: in charge of like that rape wherever her name is
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: from accounts. Yeah, she's in charge of the finance in
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: the UK. She basically works in the bank doing customer service.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: What what qualifications she got other the factors. She joined
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: the right party, She makes the right noises, and she
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: told what she's told and she repeats it. Whereas in
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: Vietnam if you ever call it and most Wan has done. Chris,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: it's beautiful. It's so well put together, it's so well organized.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: There's absolutely no need to moment.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: They're doing a great jog's Tony Blair was a urinal inspector.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: Too good for him.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, at least he was a public servant. But
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, yes'm I'm mentioning this, Charlie. Not really,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna you know, I'm not dropping anyone in it.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: I don't really care. I know what goes on in
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: war if you if you don't like horrendous things, folks,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: stop picking on the individual and and stop stop voting.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: If you vote, encourage them. If you vote, you're going
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: to get these weaklings that Charlie talks of. And you
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: know they're just just puppets, aren't they really? But no,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: I only mention it because.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: Chris, I'm sorry to interrupt you. We're just about to
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: have a blackout.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: Sorry, folks. We just had to take a quick break
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: because the power went out in Vietnam. I think someone
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: tripped over the plug. Yeah, Charlie, I was more interested that.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: One of my viewers asked me what I made of
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: it all with respect to why does the BBC, who
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: are the voice? You know, I call it the mouthpiece
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: of the big club, the dark network, the merchants, certainly
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: the establishment. Why do they keep going after the SF
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: in this manner when you would think that they've got
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: so many more wars planned they're going to need, you know,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: paid operators. I'm going to say, what was it? Smedley
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: but said? He said I was you know, he said
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: I was a racketeer for the big money men, didn't he?
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: Smedley Butler was America's most decorated war colonel, general or
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: whatever the high up thing is. And he said, I
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: was nothing. When I look back at my career, I
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: was like the strong arm for the you know, the
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: money people. So why in that, Charlie, do you think
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: in that case the establishment keep going after their own soldiers.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying here that just for people out
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: there that might think. I think people get a pass.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: I think if you hurt another person unjustifiably, you should
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: face justice. That's just my view. That's what I'd want
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: with my family. So I'm not condoning whatever may or
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: may not have gone on. I'm just asking a question, Charlie.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: What you know, why are these ablishment going after their
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: own manpower? When you think that they need these people
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: for all the wars they've got planned.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: They do need them. And when you're young, dumb and
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: full of all that, you are very controllable. However, as
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: you age and as you see life through different angles,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: you realize that basically you're a paid mercenary and a
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: very underpaid one. Yeah, but you're a strong character and
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: you're willing to speak out against it, and that then
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: discredits the institution you're meant to be looking after. So
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: actually it's a double edged sword. The s F people
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: people have gone through that rigorous training. When they open
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: their eyes and most actually do in the end, it's
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: they get a voice because they are the people that
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: have been there and they realize that they've been used
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: to further an agenda, and the agenda usually comes down
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: to getting somebody else more wealthy that's already wealthy. So
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: they want Sheeples soldier. Sheeples. Yeah, they want people that
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: will do as are told, and they certainly don't want
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: dissenting voices. And trouble with SF is you're taught to
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: think freely, you're taught to do things differently. Yeah, Paddy,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: the s s fella that sort of broke every single
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: rule in the military but got the job done is
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: now what they don't want, because if anybody speaks up
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: when they're in the military, they get an instant voice,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: like that young marine recently on the DEI that spoke
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: out and said, look, you can't have d in the
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: Marines because if you're fat, you can't pass, and if
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: it's ginny, you can't pass, and if you're weak, you
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: can't pass. And there may be one woman in a million.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: That made me able to pass, but the whole corps
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: has to change for it. So they breed very strong
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: minded people. They're in this fastball in achieving their goals,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: which is great. However, when they mature and see the
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: bigger picture, not and not everybody does, they have a
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: voice straight away because they're in it. So they must
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: discredit that voice. Now that comes in many forms, but
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: it usually comes in forms of they've done something bad sexually,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: they've been caught with whatever drugly, they've messed an operation up.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: They will discredit them before that voice becomes powerful. So
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: sometimes they need us and sometimes they don't. And when
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: they don't need us, the tub with us lot is
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: we don't care and we're going to speak anyway, and
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: that's because we're not scared. We've been told not to
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: be scared. We're almost psychopathic in in our beliefs to
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: get to the end of the mission. And that's a
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: very powerful counter voice to their so called narrative. Because
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: the BBC, the British Bullshitting Corporation wherever you want to
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: call it, right are propaganda driven and if that's all
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: you watch, that's all you know. And if Suddy gets
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: on the BBC or on a big channel, and they
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: know they're going to release some information that's going to
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: contradict what they're trying to sell the public. They will
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: tell them anything. SF first se lords, I think there
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: all navy guy resigned this SUITEK the admiral under some
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: sort of sex scandal. Yeah, but I'd probably go a
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: bit deep. My thinking is met Okay, So a royal
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: Navy officer shagged this subordinate, Well, that what's new? Right
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: in my mind? It's been happening for probably a thousand years, right,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: So it's an old playbook that they use. They use
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: you when they need you, when you get a voice.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: If that voice doesn't go along with their narrative, they
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: will use any form of propaganda then to discredit you.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: So and SF get a real voice, and you know
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: with Middleton, Foxy, you know yourself, and various other s.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: F we'll get a strong voice. So then you're you're
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: a crackpot, a tinfull believer, or a kid murderer. So
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: the panoramor that we used to that I used to
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: watch would absolutely be absorbed by I take with a
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: pinch of salt, because I think personally that's not the story.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: But whatever the story is. If you're sent and trained
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: to go and kill people, and collateral damage in that
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: which is legalized murder is that kids are are murdered
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: as well, that's on them and they know it. It's
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: on them. So because if he hadn't sent you sent them,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: they wouldn't be there. So I think unbeknown to a
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: lot of former Marines as well that are still completely
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: in that in that zone of you know BBC, they
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: don't want the narrative to break, because the narrative is
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: breaking and they're struggling to get people to join up.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: Now this Queen and Country has slipped away, and if
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: SF starts speaking up, which is like the top of
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: the tree, then they're just not going to be able
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: to cruit anybody. So I think this is a site
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: up to this credit SF because a lot of people
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: have left and been involved in operations are now speaking
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: out when they've woken up and going do you know what?
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: I was just an underpaid mercenary And so I think
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: the Panorama are a part of that. So do I
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: believe what Panorama said? It's always wrapped around some truth, certainly,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: because that's how they get away with it. But would
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: I say that that was the exact story, Well, I'd
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: be very surprised because I've never seen anybody in the
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: BBC report correctly. I just see narrative, narrative, narrative, narrative.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: It's like when they walk in the supermarket. Now, I
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: just see poison, poison, poison.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: You know. The thing is, they're saying that thirty people
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: have come forward, some of whom were supporting actors, you know,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: support in the supporting role of SF. Some of whom
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: were s F themselves, some of whom are claiming it's
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: sbs who haven't been in the spotlight up until now.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: And again, I know, just from having been in the
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: media or dealt with them, how they will literally cherry
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: pick the lines for the documentaries that really sound the
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: absolute worse. And again I'm not I think I know
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: this sort of thing goes on because I'm not stupid,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not naive, I'm not gullible. I realize that you're
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: utterly indoctrinated as a as a child basically, you know,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: a teenager. If you're under eighteen, you're still classed as
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: a child in the eyes of the law. And yet
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: you're put through the most heavily programmed indoctrination of killing
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: known to man, to the I mean Ben Griffin says
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: this the former SAS guy who walked out of Iraq,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: he left after having served in Iraq because he said,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: he actually said, the Americans went out and they got
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: hits on their targets every single night. He said, how
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: come as Brits we couldn't find any of the people
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: we were supposed to look for. So sorry again, folks
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: with another power of Vietnam's powers out again. But what
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: were we saying? We were saying, yeah, what why is
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: the establishment trying to shackle their own henchmen? Could it
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: be that the way that they're trying to look you know,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: you said it yourself, the big club are or they
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: worked ten steps ahead, whereas people just work like what's
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: happening tomorrow or ends me next holiday? And could it
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: be that this truth, Charlie is bound to be coming
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: out and they're trying to get there their stamp, you know,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: their control on it now, so that they guide the
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: narrative as to where this goes. Rather than rough old
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: blokes get who are dealing with PTSD. They're approaching their
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: fifties and sixties, and they don't give a shit. They're
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: just going to tell the public like what really goes
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: on a little bit like what we're doing now, and
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: then that becomes a bit of a you know, is
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: it a battle for the information? Is what I'm trying
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: to say.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: Well, if you control the flow of information, you control
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: the thought process. Right, So I'm very wary. I'm lucky enough.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: God bless God for letting me be in Vietnam, because
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: I'm lucky enough in a supposedly I don't know socialists.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: They've got a foot in communism and footing socialism. The
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: most capitalist people who ever met the work, they got
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: great break work, work, ethic. Their government looks after them.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: There's no need to question them. And I would quite
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: happily defend Vietnam, defend the Vietnam because I live here, right,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: because the countries run well. In America, they're under the
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: illusion that they're free. They're not free. You can in
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: park anywhere, you can't do anything. In the UK you
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: can't do anything, yeah, but they pretend that you can.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: But should you get a voice, they're discredit So if
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: there's something gone on that the government has been involved
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: in they get out in front of it. Yeah, So
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: anybody that's involved in it, in my humble opinion, and
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, anybody that's involved in it will be
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: discredited as a child killer, a pedophile, or a dissenter,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: a murderer before the real story comes out. So when
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: the first story first breaks, let's go back to A
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: one nine one, if you've rearranged the numbers. Yeah, when
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: that first happened, when I saw that, I was like,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: my god, that's the worst terrorist attack I've ever seen.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: Straight away, I was like, that's horrendous.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: You know, it's just just the.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: Towers went down. And then I didn't even know about
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: Building seven, and it was like, good God, I can't
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: believe this has happened. For those that are informed there,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: let's just say there was a lot more going on
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: than that. Yeah, all right, And that was used as
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: a catalyst to go into Iraq. Who wouldn't go onto
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: the dollar standard. Gaddafi wanted the gold standard. Yeah, all
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: the people that would taken out wanted to break away
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: from the control of the US dollar. Fact, the first
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: first full presidents that were killed when Something nineteen came
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: out years ago, for African presidents. The first four that
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: were killed died, sorry killed, riiculous, killed themselves, all said
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: no to the role you sleep up. Okay, So if
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: you dissent and you haven't got a voice, so what now,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: I've got a Facebook page. It's not I don't know
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: about the business page. It's just my page, just me, Yeah,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: just not not a narrative page. I had one hundred
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: and some thousand followers on just me saying what I
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: want to say. Yeah, not selling anything, just from my opinion,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: my humble opinion. And in Vietnam I can post stuff.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: So I posted about Aunt Middleton, about him. He's come
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: out and basically said that in essence, what he's saying
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: is that. And remember SBS has always been very much
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: an untalked about subject, right, very much. So it's only
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: recently now that anybody's even talking about SPS has always
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: been assass He's got a dissenting voice. Fox, he's got
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: a dissenting voice. The people that they've built up to
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: be heroes are all of a sudden turning on them. Yeah,
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: because he's turned around and said, look, we're a Christian
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: country and if you don't stop this invasion and nothing
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: against any other religions, but I come to Vietnam, I
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: live by their rules because it's their country. I'm blessed
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: to be here. And if I don't like that, then
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: I go home, I go somewhere else. Yeah, people are
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: coming to the UK and completely think they've got a
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: right to change a Christian country into another, into another
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: country altogether. And they're backed by it's painful, by a
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: political elite that are going right along with it. And
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: now you've got literally two tier policing, two tier justice.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: Now the people are now starting to go Hold on
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: a second. We want us refugees, yes, sure of course,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: And we've seen real refuge Chris. They come across the border,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: they've put ten so mom, dad, grandma, dog, cat, Yeah,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: and they sets it there, wait for the water finish
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: and they go back in. So we know what a
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: refugee is a real one. They're not eighteen to forty
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: five year old males running across the border. So they
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: need to hold the narrative. And when Special Forces sf
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: raal Marines ss SEES starts speaking up are about to
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: they must be discredited straight away. And the best way
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: to discredit is child murderer Yeah. Now they may have
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: been given the order to do that directly from the
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: higher ups the admiralty. Let's say that was never meant
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: to be leaked. They did their duty following an order.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: Of course, that's going to come out at some say. So,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: what's the best way to discredit child murderers we've been given?
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: You know, we just did our own thing. Look, war
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: in itself is is wrong. Okay, it's legalized murder. Somebody
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: comes in your house to hurt your your wife or
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: your kids, well, good luck, yeah, good luck to you. Right.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: Vietnam have clearly stated that they will not get involved
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: in other people's conflicts. Yeah, they will not play so
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: of Thailand, but they will defend their own borders. It's
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: called ministry of defense. When they turn into the ministry
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: of attack, which is what's happened for financial gains, and
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: the soldiers start waking up, they've got huge problems with
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: the recruitment, controlling the narrative. So what's one of the
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: best ways to do it. Well, one would be pedophile. Yeah,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: that's a great way of controlling it. Child killer, what's
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: lower than a child killer? Yeah, And a lot of
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: the soldiers that speak up when they're still in are
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: still in doctor, and he say, don't know that they're
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: being played. Yeah. So I think when you look at
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: an instant twenty thirty, forty years later, something like the polio,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: roll your sleeve up and the data's in and it
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: was caused by the role you sleeve up. Yeah, in
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: forty years time, the one nine ones will be seen
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: clearly by everybody. In fourty years time, this incident will
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: probably be completely different. But in my humble opinion, anybody
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: that's got all the power and all the money already,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: what's what's the driving force? Well, I think it's demonic
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: if you want the truth. And I found God through
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: looking at this, going well, what more do they need?
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: They've got all the money, all the power, all the welth,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: why on earth would they carry on with these what
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: we call the neocon forever was? And yes, the politicians
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: are getting paid very nicely, okay, what you say they
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: are now in Asia, Southeast Asia, I call it honest
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: corruption because it goes on, Okay, it happens in the UK.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: It's it's disgusting because they try and make out that
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: they're just getting you know, they're doing it for the
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: good of the people and you know, we must save
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: the Ukrainians and then and whatever. Yeah, the G seven nations, yeah,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: have been in the last ten years. In my humble opinion,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: and it's only my opinion, Chris have been vile and
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: what they've done to their people, from the roll ups,
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: the breaking down to the families, the narratives, looking after
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: other people forgetting their old people. Yeah, causing a massive
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: mental health problem, you know, because psychiatrists diagnose people or
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: they don't get paid. So everybody's got adhd add the BDB, CDB,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: everyone's got a problem. Yeah. Now, everybody's been through pain
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: right now. Whether that pain was you couldn't get the
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: car you wanted and you're a trust fund and you
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: thought that was the worst things ever happened, or whether
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: you lived on a rubbish dumping Manila. We've all experienced
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: pain and it's all individual. When the SF soldier grows up,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: he's a problem. He's a real problem because he don't
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: give a shit. Yeah. Now, I never thought i'd see
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: a young marine get on the podcast and talk about
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: DEI because when I was at Libston in nineteen eighty four,
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: they were trying to get one. They were trying to
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: get a non man through then, Yeah, and they just
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: couldn't all armed command. Of course they could, but not
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: too rang right mate, Well, no, I mean obviously some
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: slips slipped out, but I thought I've got rid of
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: the beard. No, but you did know what I'm saying, Chris,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: If the narrative doesn't suit them, they'll drop you like
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: a hot rock, That's what That's what I'm trying to say,
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: and then use all sorts of sychops to do that.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: My grandfather worked for a guy called Lord Aster, which
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: was the Perfumer Affairs. He was the state manager. Yeah.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: Lord Aster wanted to take the pounds sterling back onto
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: the gold standard. Yeah. So, I don't know if you
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: remember the Perfumer Affairs, right, it was a big There
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: was a big deal. The politicians, apparently the labor politicians
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: who were who wanted that to happen, were going down
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: to the farms in Devon where my my grandfather was
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: the state manager of and having wild weekend. Shall we say.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: They broke that in the press. Yeah. Remember Lord asked
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: wants to go back to the gold standard. They didn't
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: want that, so they've made out that he was obviously
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: a sex craze, lunatic blah blah blah. And they went
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: to my grandfather for the story and they offered him
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: ten pounds at the time, which was a lot of money.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: And he said, listen, I worked for Lord asked, I
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: saw nothing. He told the truth. Yeah, and for that loyalty,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: Lord asked left in two farms. But the point is,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: if you control the flow of information, you control the narrative.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: People that are in the forces are getting different information.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: People out of the forces, people in being am get
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: differ information they're in the UK. You've got to be
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: very careful what you go the information you're given, because
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: every bit of information you're given is what they want
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: you to see. So we'll be Trumpers right, because he's
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: so much better than Biden, but he's still left right wing,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: eagle in the middle. It's still the same agenda. It's
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: still control. And why do you want more money when
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: you've got all the money in the world, And why
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: do you need more power out from the world. Well,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: that's when you get into a bit deeper, and then
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: you get into literally good and evil. So they'll use
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: any narrative they want to make sure that the people
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: that aren't stupid, but they're just trusting are controlled in
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: my comble opinion.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's one thing. Another thing that has to be said.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: And again I'm I'm literally not taking sides here. I've
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: got nothing invested in this. But I do find that
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: I think sometimes people, in their keenness to get a
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: chip off their shoulder, can sometimes be a little bit
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: like and then this happened, and then this, and this
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: sort of cherry picking extreme events or a version of
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: of of events. And I just I'm not trying to
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: say anything, hear, folks, I'm honestly not. I'm trying to
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: get something out which is a bit complicated. But it
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: was a little bit like in the truth world, you'll
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: get someone that will expose, say, for example, the role
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: you sleeve up thing right, and they're all, you know,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: they mean well, and then when you chat to them,
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: and then the next thing they're going and and.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: You know they.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: It's they all want to implant Michael Chips And do
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: you do know that the world's flat, don't you? And
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: and and it's like, well, hang on a set. We've
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: gone from the realms of like reality into into your
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: fantasy ver you know, or your version of reality. And
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: I again, I'm not trying to upset people here, Charlie.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to point out that you can pick someone
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: to speak on the documentary and it could be someone
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: with an ax an act to grind. And when people
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: have an ax to grind, you're going to get a
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: lot of their version of the narrative comes in with it.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: That's kind of like what I'm trying to say.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: Well, I feel like a divorce right when people get divorced.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: If you if you're the friends with if you're ladies
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: and friends of the lady, it's the man's fault, and
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: if you're friends with the man, it's the woman's fault.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: The reality is the most divorces. It's both people's fault. Okay,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: both people have messed up somewhere. The reality of any
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: war situation, in my humble opinion, I always say that
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: because it's only my opinion, just I'm not pushing a narrative,
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: is that we're being told in the UK that we
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: must peacefully protest, only peacefully in certain areas at certain times.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: Why they are using full force to get their agenda
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: across the line, whether that's in the air, the water,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: the food, the media, the institutions, the indoctrination areas, the universities.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: So I don't try and fight the narrative what I've
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: done with the company I've got. I'm not taking on
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: the banks. I'm not stupid. I'm just trying to give
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: people a decentralized way of using it so they're not
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: under the control of the of the paper that they
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: change in print when they want to give people real assets.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: So I'm always very cautious of any breaking news story
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: that's negative because especially when it's well reported. I mean,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: in Africa, they've got an awful disease. Have you heard
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: of it. It's called starvation, which millions of people who
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: are dying from and the cure is food. Right, So
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: you've got people that earn two dollars a day, yeah,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: getting two hundred thousand dollars bombs dropped on them, People
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: that are in eighty thousand dollars a year. So people
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: that can keep earning billions of dollars through ongoing wars.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: So I know, I only know it's the absolute truth
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: of us me to somebody with integrity, And again, it
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: takes a long time to find those people, and you're
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: very susceptful. As a former military when you've got a
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: civ street of shaking somebody's hand and thinking they mean it,
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you've made that same mistake as well. So
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: all I know is this, we don't have to be
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: a war. We don't send the kids away. We don't
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: need all this going on. Because I live in Vietnam.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: They've stated quite clearly they're not playing you invade Vietnam.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: By the way, good luck. If anyone's listening, nobody's beating
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: them for years ever, and then they will never be
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: them because they will defend their country because their government
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: genuinely looks after them. One homeless person in thirteen years,
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: I've seen Chris in Vietnam. But if you want to
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: invade Vietnam, good look. So everything we are shown is
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: because they want us to see it. I've had loads
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: of videos taken down because I've said something st a
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: earth Yeah. Yeah, and they'd like to get out in
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: front of that in discrediting.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And in my own opinion, there's a big elephant
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: in the room here as well, which there's a lot
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: of people jumping on this immigration bandwagon at the moment,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: all level in it as if it's Keir Starmer behind it.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: I'm not sticking up for Keir Starmer. I'm just saying
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: that if you trace, if you really want to understand
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: what's going on with this illegal immigration flood into the
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: Western world, essentially into USA, obviously Europe, but primarily the UK,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: people would be well advised to research the New Zealand
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: Shipping company who bought who Green of Ever were they
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: skippered a ship called wind Rush back in the fifties
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: I believe it was post Second World War and the
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: owner of the New Zealand Shipping company was the Isaacs family.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: Now the Isaacs family, we're in a network called the cousinhood.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: And it won't surprise I think people probably a few
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: steps ahead here have already realized that's you're roth Child's
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: and your network right. And they bombarded obviously the Afro
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: Caribbeans with these signs saying, hey, new life in United Kingdom,
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: you know, land of milk and honey, come across. They
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: want you for their post war effort. And of course
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: it was all nonsense. Britain was doing funk. Britain's always
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: done fine in you know, whatever scenario it's found it
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: didn't need outside workers. Today these guys rocked up. The
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: British people went out to actually meet them at Tilbury
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: Ducks with a cup of tea. And that's you know,
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: that's how nice people are. But of course it was
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: raised in parliament. Hang on, how is this apple? Why
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: is there a big ship rocking up at the docks
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: and it's full of afrocat who who? And of course
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: nobody knew because it was done by you know, the
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: cousinhood aka the network aka the merchants, And what we're
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: seeing now is just a continuation of that. And so
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: when I see the likes of Ant and I'm I'm
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: and it's a good guy. I know, you know, you
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: can you can tell that. I know that We've had
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: a couple of communications over the years. He was very
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: supportive when I ran the length of the United Kingdom.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: I think unless they start to and I know it's
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: very difficult to take public office then talking about a
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: dark subversive agenda, because look what happened to JFK when
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: he talked about the monolithic conspiracy that operates by Covet
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: means I'm saying it just because I can and I
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: would want to make as many people aware of it.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: You can try and blame the boats on key Astarmer's inadequacy, folks,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: as much as you want. You can try and get
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: another politician in, whether that be reform, and I know
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: that's a popular option now, but it's Some would argue,
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: they're all, you know, bristles of the same brush just
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: made that expression up. It's not bad, actually, is it
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: not bad?
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: Actually? No, that's pretty good.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: Former rule marining with with with the.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: Brain so you were the only left Yeah, and the
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: looks mate. Some would say, you know, well, I'd say
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: the word essence could be using this conversation.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: Without without I'm not going to argue with you, brother,
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: so so yes, So if we truly love our children,
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: we've got to start waking up to the fact that
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: all of this is gameplay. They're they're years ahead of us.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: Keir Starmer is nothing and nobody in. He's just another
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: puppet that's been been corrupted by by the by the
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: big Club and use for their gains, just like Tony
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: the urinal cleaner Blair. Yes, okay, I.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: Think Chris retraised point. When I was in the core,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: there were certain left politicians that were making noise about
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: the Gulf War, Tony Ben, Tony and Ben and Galloway, Yeah,
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: saying how this was there was no need for it,
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: there was no weapons of mass destruction. I used to
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: hate them with an absolute passion. I go back and
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: listen to some of those speeches now and they resonate
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: so strongly. They were absolutely on the money.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: So when it comes to sort of switches the big tech,
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: if I may, Yeah, when you are in big tech,
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: you get to you get to scratch the service you do.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: I get to pull the curtain back and have a look. Yeah,
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: so you can get a bit of what you're going
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: to be in shown. I get a lot of what
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: nobody gets to see. Yeah, which I won't go into
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: now because there's no point because I'll just sound like
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: an absolute lunatic. But if you have one information source,
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: now everyone Elon Musk is this, and he's that, and
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: he's all therestled and what he's doing is lovely and
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: it's brilliant and saving money. And but he's still got
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: the biggest electric car company in the world. He's still
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: got neuralin going on. Yeah, he still wants to control
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: the flow of information totally. So when he gets when
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: he's doing this, nobody's going to stop him because he's
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: seen as a good guy. If Biden would have said,
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: we're having Greenland and we're going to recall it the
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: American Golf and by the way, we'll have h well
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: of the canal back as well, and uh yeah, well
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: that's not we're not giving you that money. We'll take
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: that as alone of the minerals, the world would have
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: been outraged. So the plan was to put a more
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: on in for the wand of a better word, right,
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: make an absolute look like he's making a mess of it,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: but not on purpose. And from chaos comes older. So
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: they make chaos so they can do exactly what they want.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: So every time I see negative negative news transgenderism or whatever,
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: or about this or gay or or the I listen,
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: you put four or five commando into the channel, and
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: you put the guys from Paul into the boats. Right
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: he stopped him in the day end the story.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 2: If I come to Vievanam and I said, I'll buy
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: the way of snucking, want a house, wouldn't mind the telephone?
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: By the way, I was given money by an NGO
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: to get here, and I don't like your political system. Yeah,
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: and they'll be waving your flags. I would be lucky
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 2: if it wasn't locked up and rightly so it's their
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: country and I'd be out within an hour. So it's
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: not like they can't stop it. It's a recruitment process.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: Did you see that Royal marine that went to Calais, Yes,
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: and went into the camps. Lee West has been on
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: the show a couple of times. Okay, well he went.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: I watched that and I was like, it all seems
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: to be all marines, if you know, at the moment,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: it's a lot of all marines coming out and speaking.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: That's why I think they want to discredit went into
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 2: the camps. The NNGS gave the money. They actively encourage
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: them to go across. They're recruiting. That's what the British
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: government are doing because what's going to happen is the
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: population's falling off the edge of the planet. Literally, same
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: with America, same with most most nations that are rich.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: Because the best, how could you put it, the best
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: way to stop people having lots of babies is to
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: make the country rich, which sounds incredibly stupid, but when
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: you've been to the Philippines, they have more kids than
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: anybody and they've got absolutely nothing. You then go to
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: a rich area, they might have one or two because
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: they want private school, they want the cars, they want
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: all the rest of it. So poverty creates great people
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: and wealth creates different sort of people. Yeah, and as
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: countries get richer, they have less and less kids, so
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: they have to import what we would call them slaves
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: in the old days. Yeah, now they are invaders, or
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: they are as sim stickers, or they are whatever. So
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: if anybody's under the illusion that the government can't stop
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: this because of starm and then they're they're delusional. It
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: could be stopped in literally a day. Yeah, we are
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: recruiting them. Why because we haven't got enough youth. And
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: if that, if we don't have enough youth coming through,
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: then the whole system collapse and apologies don't get paid.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: In my humble opinion, Yeah, I think like a lot
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: of the Big Club gameplay, it's multi faceted as well, Charlie,
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: in respect to if you look at any security now,
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: it's normally ethnic minorities. And if you don't have a
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: dog in the fight, if it's not your culture, these
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: are not your people. And I'm not trying to be
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: like nationalists, and I like yourself. I've traveled eighty five
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: countries across all seven continents. I love all people. But
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: you set a dangerous president when you've got so many
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: men of fighting age who literally have no stake in
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: the game. Because for ten quid you come from sub
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: sar on Africa and you've you've got a family over
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: there and six kids to feed. What are you going
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: to do the next time the next Illuminati war comes
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: up and they have their FF event and things, you know,
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: collapse out of the sky and now, oh, we're gonna
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: it's New Zealand this time, or you know, okay, it's
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: a doubt it's ever going to be New Zealand. But
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: you you get well, no, no, no, no.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: Have you seen the Maoris at the moment? See the
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: Maori population of New Zealand are not happy with what's happening. Yeah,
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: with that because obviously they're a tribal. Yeah, they're very cohesive.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: I know an old black, a few very well rugby player.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: They're very much people have male roles and female roles.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: And Liscinda whatever her name was, was an absolute disaster.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: But they've now it's getting very tribal. Yeah, you've got
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: the one side that want to be inclusive and having
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: a very involved and mean well they mean as well,
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: but they've had enough. They've had enough because we were
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: told it was our country. We were lied to. It's
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: their country, Chris, and they can do with us as
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: they please, or we get a civil war going on
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: and we all know what happens there. Brothers and sisters
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: are killing themselves and whoever gets in power is the
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: most corrupt person again, and the whole cycle starts. Can
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: so until we stop conflicts, until we stop recruiting, until
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: we stop the money people using us to enrich themselves
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 2: for power, and that's sound to us to do that,
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: this will go on forever.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's just further further dilution of community culture, community identity,
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: community values, self confidence. Everyone's just being destroyed, Charlie. I
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: mean people here now, I mean it's always been a
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: bit bad in the UK. People tend to be a
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: bit shy, but now like no one says hellow like
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: literally you walk into a bus stop and say there's
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: five people in there, no one will even look up
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: from their phone to sort of you know, not even
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: a courteous all right, you know it's and half of
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: it's because of the obvious dopamine addiction of the phone.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: But the other half of it is people are screwed, mate.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: Young people are so timid now physically, like turn their
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: head away when you walk down walk down the street
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: because especially after the you know, the whole C nineteen thing.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: So I think, yeah, you know, there's just way way
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: more to this illegal invasion that we're experiencing. Then the
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: meets the eye.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: One hundred percent agree. And I also know it could
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: be stopped in a day when we had the roly
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: fever problem, which didn't really happen too badly in Vietnam,
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: and they're very honest about it, and they didn't you know,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: it was seen as a foreigner's disease. Well I know
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: what that was going on in the world, apparently the
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: worst pandemic in one hundred years. They still found the
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: money to put up the five details, right, And if
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: you really want to know what's going on, look down there.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: That frequency is actually a military frequency used to every
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: single screen that you watch.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we obviously just a warning, we go what say, yeah.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: When you've got you've got media, you've got frequency, you've
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: got institutions, and you've got one single line of communication.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: You're not going to break that. And if you do
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: break away from that, you'll just be a tinhatter. Yeah.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: So I used to go around like you trying to
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: convert people. You're wasting your breath because until they find
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: it themselves naturally, and it has to be usually through
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: a painful event. Painful event makes you grow and look
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: outside yourself. It's not going to change. And will there
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: ever be enough people awake at one time to stop
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: the system not being negative? But I highly doubt it, Chris,
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: highly doubt it.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: Can I just clarify it. I'm not trying to convert people, Charlie.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: I The reason I speak the way I do is
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: I know there's people out there struggling with all of this,
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: and I remember what it was like when I awakened,
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: and there were so I mean I awakened. I were
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: enlightened in nineteen ninety eight when I got through my
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: chronic you know, mental health issues. I didn't actually awake
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: realized the matrix until two thousand and five, and it
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: was when a university lecturer we were having a yapp
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: one day during our lunchtime, and John, our lecturer, was
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: sat at the table and he said, guys, he said,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: have any of you seen this Pentagon video? And obviously
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: this was twenty years ago when those events, you know,
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: it was five years at four years after the events
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: had happened. And I was just like everyone else, Charlie,
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: Oh god, you know guy in a cave in the desert,
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: like he's done all of this. And when I went
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: home and I watched that video, I said, oh Jesus Christ,
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: we've all been lied to, haven't we We This lie
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: is on such a colossal scale. But both myself and
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: my one of my best mates, we both awoke to
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: this at the same time. And we went for the
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: next five to seven years looking at each other, going,
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: we're not imagining this a week. No, no, we're not
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: imagining this. Building seven smoking guns. You cannot deny case.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: You can deny B seven you cannot, you know. And
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: we hung in there and I actually got to meet
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: Willie Rodriguez, the last person to get out of the
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: towers alive. Obviously, now met David Ike and all these
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: people that know far more about it than I ever
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: will and what happened was there was nobody back then
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: to say, Chris, sure, absolutely right mate. And it goes
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: a a lot deeper than what you've just done. It
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: goes a lot deeper. Welcome to you know, the reality,
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: Welcome to red pill, right. And and that's why I
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: say these sort of things, Charlie is is it's not
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it's it's all right to live in
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: a life where you don't realize any of this stuff.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: But despite it being, it can be quite challenging when
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: you're newly awakened, because you're still trying to make sense
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: of life whilst being in the matrix the enlightenment step,
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: the next step, that's the cookie cruncher. That's where your
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: life begins, folks. And if I can help anybody to
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: get there and step away from this bullshit in this
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: parochial conservative believe anything that the BBC tells me, and
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: then fucking argue it on Facebook like an appolute prick. Well,
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: people are literally dropping like that because you're around you,
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: because you're ignorant and you're uneducated, and that.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna I shouldn't jump in I'm going to
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: jump in here. The more educated you are your PhDs.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: You as a physicists, you're you're biologists. The more invested
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: you are in their agenda, right, you haven't been educated
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: a lot of the time, you've been indoctrinated. Okay, So
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: they'll bring the PhDs on that will come out with
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: their their version of the events. He's a PhD, she's
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: the PhD. That's how it should be. So I'm on
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: a note. I've got to if we had a chat
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 2: in private, I'm gonna I've seen some stuff behind the
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: curtain that I won't talk about in here. But mhm,
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: if you think you're not being played, you really are
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 2: really hon asleep.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, and I shouldn't. I'm not. I'd probably sound
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: like I'm having a go at people only just because
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: you know, stay awake, stay present, forget the past. But
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: it was, you know, that medical thing that was odd
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: for those of us that knew what was going on.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: That that was odd man, that that that was challenging.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: But Charlie, listen, I want to take this forward now,
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: this would be the last thing we we we we discussed.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: So you're a young person now growing up. There's so
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: much confusion out there. You've been so such a ship
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: deal in terms of like, you'd be so much better
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: to read books than go on the PlayStation. You'd be
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: so much better to build your dream, understand adventuring other countries,
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: wild animals, you know.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: Just read books and get that garding making.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that survival, get that quest for adventure, and get
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: out out there and eat food. Make it your thing
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: that there's no food you will never not eat because
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: you are a massive legend.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: Just take that, take that, take that attitude into life,
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: and it's going to do you so well, right, And
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: I think looking at the employment horizon, for them, it
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: must be just you know, you're gonna go and sit
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: behind a computer for the next forty years doing secretary
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: basically like secretarial. When I'm not slighting secretaries here obviously,
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: I just mean you're a big hairy ass bloke with
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: all your tattoos and your funny air air style, and
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: you ain't gonna be out there like Tarsan fighting lions
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: in the jungle. You're gonna be sack, you know, for
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: your whole career. I don't want that for people. What
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: I want to do now, Charlie, you say, is there
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: a way young people can embrace ai crypto blockchain, These
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: areas that US dinosaurs are struggling to get our heads around.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: I'm just getting into crypto now just because you can.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: It's quite good fun. It's like doing the Grand National
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: every day, betting on the Grand National every day. God
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: be careful what I say. I shouldn't be promoting gambling.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 2: But oh no, no, no, Crypto is a great, big casino.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 2: You're absolutely correct, Talius. And if you think you understand it,
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 2: you haven't got clear what's going on. Okay, it's an
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: emotional market. If al must say, hey that that fart
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: smells good on dodge coin, people will buy it, right, Okay.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: If if somebody powerful promotes their crypto, it will go
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: all the way. But I've been in certain rooms when
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 2: certain pumps are going on, and I've seen what's really happening.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: And what by the time it gets to the influences
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: is the people you'll watch to try and find out
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: what's going on. It's over. If you haven't bought before
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 2: the rumor and sold on the actual on on the rumor,
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 2: you're you're you're in. If you're watching podcasts and people
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: talking about I'm very honest about it. Yeah, watching podcasts
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: The Shilds. Right, I've gone from the initial crypto thing,
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: initially ten years ago and thinking what a great idea
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: bitcoin is, and it is a good idea, so to
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 2: get away from the central banks. Sure, I've gone into
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 2: now real assets that are on a blockchain and recorded
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 2: by crypto if you will, But they're actually assets land, property,
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 2: gold and silver. Yeah, all the assets that the elites hold.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: That's the only assets they hold. Yeah. They don't hold
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: paper money. They're n instill in it, right, They'll map
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: fifty grand in the account. They can get hold of
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 2: the money through trust funds and loans, but they don't
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 2: actually come out and pay tax. It's asset management. So
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 2: the blockchain stuff I'm doing is about taking asset management
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 2: to the normal person. And it's been a painful trip
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 2: because you sound like a lunatic in the beginning, because
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: all you are is the head of the curve. And
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 2: if you're head of the curve, what don't she talking about? Well,
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: you always easy on drugs are come to discreversation. So
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 2: if you want to quit lesson on crypto, just cryptocurrency
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: is a casino and if you're acting on what you're
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 2: seeing on a YouTuber. Stop it, Okay, stop it because
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 2: they're all paid to promote whatever, right Lesson number one,
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 2: would I recommend anybody does know crypto to get involved
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 2: in it now? No, I would not. All right, I
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 2: would say categorically, no, bitcoin's going to survive. There's going
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: to be a few others that survive. Unless it's got
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: a reason for its purpose, a business behind it. Don't
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: get involved in because it's specially okay when it comes
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: to blockchain, do you know what blockchain is?
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: Yes? So blockchain is a ledger that's now being linked
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: to commerce and transactions so that they basically can be
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: recorded for prosperity, so that you can backtrack and see
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: at which point did this track's action take place, by
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: whom or what, and that the ledger can only be
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: doctored if certain parties all agree on it, and it's
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: you were right to the end, you were there.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: It's the perfect accountancy system that cannot be changed by
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: anybody because it's recorded in too many locations. Okay, it's
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 2: what governments want. Hence, the selling of the crypto first
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 2: gets people eyes onto the deal, and then we go
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 2: into blockchain then, which is the perfect recording so no
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 2: matter what you do, you cannot eraise it. It's recording
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: so many locations at once. Yeah, they can't be erased.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 2: So when it's put on chain, that's it. Yeah, whether
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: it's right or it's wrong, it's on chain. So property developers,
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 2: if they've got a dodgy deal, people can't do that anymore.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 2: People that are moving buying assets can't just buy them
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 2: under other people's names. That have to have now proper checks.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: Blockchain is there to protect you, but like any weapon,
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 2: like anything, it could be weaponized against you. Yeah, because
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: it's the perfect recording system. If people put it on
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 2: chain and it's wrong, they can't take it away. It's
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 2: there forever. It's literally written in stone. Yeah. However, if
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 2: people want to get involved in blockchain, that's a completely
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: different thing than just crypto. Crypto is a casino. You're
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: late to the game. Yeah, yeah, you're late to the game,
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 2: and there's people far brighter than you and I. They're
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 2: doing the programming at the back that create the pumps
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 2: and the dumps and do all the other stuff. Yeah,
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: you're too late. If you want to get involved in
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 2: non fungible tokens, which is basic contracts, on a blockchain
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 2: that will record your lamp purchases, or your house purchases,
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 2: or your co ownership purchases, or your silver or your gold. Yes,
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 2: that's real value assets. So I do that sort of blockchain.
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 2: I'm into you as far as AI goes. It's not new.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 2: The first systems, the real systems, are developed in nineteen
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 2: forty six by the British government and the American government.
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 2: It was called rear echelon. It's open knowledge. It it's
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 2: not like, oh my god, he's breaking a story. And
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 2: it was designed that when people were on the phone,
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 2: if they said a certain word, they would listen to
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 2: everything and that would be that would be basically lifted
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 2: up by a receiver that word maybe I don't know
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 2: one nine one for instance here, and then that they
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 2: would then go and listen to all the conversations. Now,
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 2: absolutely everything you do and say and say when your
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 2: phone's even supposedly off, it is recorded. And you have
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 2: about seventeen million data points on you. If you're a
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 2: normal human being, if you're like you are on your podcast,
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 2: you've probably got a billion data points on you. Yeah,
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 2: because what I does now is controlled the narrative, so well,
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 2: we don't know we're in it, and we're in it,
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 2: but we think we're not. So they've got the sheep
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 2: and now they've got the lines as well.
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 1: How could you give us a physical example, Charlie, just
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 1: so we can understand.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 2: Elon must is a classic. Right, you've got to like
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 2: what he's I mean, okay, maybe some people don't like
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 2: what he's doing in America, but the American people have
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 2: been raped for their taxes for all sorts of reasons.
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 2: Money's gone missing, No talk about the Pentagon. The day
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 2: before the Pentagon was hit, Rumsfield said that they had
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 2: lost two points, they'd lost two point four trillion dollars
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 2: and can you get your breath? The next day, the
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 2: office that dealt with it and had all the records
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 2: was hit by the plane that was flown in there.
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 2: Impossibly because actually was a long thing that you may
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 2: use as a someone to explode a building, the exact building.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, these are accidental, all right, They're not one
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 2: step ahead, they're not one hundred steps ahead. They're so
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 2: far ahead. Yeah, the lions don't know. Yeah, So what
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 2: AI is? It's Can I either be used for demonic
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 2: purposes or good purposes? Now is a what they call
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 2: a technocrat. His family were kicked out of I have
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 2: a lovely love us now, yeah, you must get a
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 2: musk and I love what he's doing. But his family
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 2: in the nineteen twenties, it's kicked out of America, was
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 2: trying to start technocracy, to take over the world with technology.
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 1: They moved.
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 2: So, okay, he very much is is a voice of
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 2: the people. But he's got the world's biggest electric car company.
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 2: Hold on a minute, we know that's not many green.
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 2: In fact, we know it's not green at all, right,
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 2: zeal On was so we're going to let that go.
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 2: He owns neural link, but he talks about AI and
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 2: saying they can be really dangerous, and he's looking at
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 2: putting to save the people. Putting a link in your
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 2: brain and having one X is a is a crossover
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 2: learning about word that X means having one link to
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 2: your brain and one flow of information. But you've got
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 2: one flow of information. You're right back to these older
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 2: bootlecks that are watching the BBC, aren't you. Yeah. Yeah, So,
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 2: like with any technology, whether it be a knife, a gun,
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 2: a bomb, a bollet, a you know, a disease, a
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 2: bio weapon. It can be used for good and it
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 2: can be used for evil. So just because you've seen it,
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 2: and because you've got a strong belief that you're on
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 2: the right path, don't be deluded. Okay, they're not gonna
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 2: handpower over ever, all right, they don't need any more power,
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 2: They don't need any more money, none of them do.
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 2: The people that are higher enough up because Elon Musk
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 2: and Trump and Starma, Yes, they may appear to be
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 2: in control of it, and then above them we might
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 2: say it's the banks, and then David I may say
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 2: it's the lizards. Yeah, and who knows who's writing who's
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 2: not right? But AI, it's so far in front of us,
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 2: so far in front of us, it's scary. Now. The
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 2: only way to beat AI is to have another air
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 2: I system policing it, but they've never brought one out,
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 2: so they don't want to, right, So you're not gonna
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 2: understand the AI because it's far superior to our intelligence.
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 2: Blockchain's great for recording, still sorts people from ripping people
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 2: off and scamming people. The Crypto era itself is pure crypto,
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 2: and crypto set is a casino. Yeah, I mean, big
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 2: point store.
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 1: Well a question when all the crypto and you get
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 1: the fluctuation on the screen, the graph basically green and reds. Yeah,
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 1: or I'm not really that deep into it. I just
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 1: I use a very simple platform and it just tells
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 1: me if it's gone up to dale down right now? Yeah,
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 1: what's to stop you? You know that bitcoin is always
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 1: going to go up, right. Of course it will go
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: down at certain points, but generally speaking, it goes up.
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 2: At the moment.
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, at the moment. So what's to stop you? If
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 1: you're a businessman, you've got fifty pounds in liquid assets, No,
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: that's nothing to you, you know, or maybe maybe it's
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 1: your life savings, whatever, what's to stop you waiting for
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 1: a significant down? And whoa if you seen bitcoin, it's
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: really you know, this is on you and then just
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: buying you you know, buying your bitcoin, then bet any
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 1: house on it, and then just waiting for it, waiting
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 1: for it to go up for you know, the next
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 1: time it goes I'm just waiting for it to go
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 1: up a little bit further three days. Maybe buang you
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: dump it, you cash it in. It seems that simple.
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 2: It is that simple, but people get emotionally involved. You've
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 2: heard of the roth Child's the red shields, right, Yes,
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 2: their maxim is The time to buy is when the
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 2: blood is running on the streets right now. Four weeks ago,
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 2: when people started attacking the Tesla cars. Yeah, because you know,
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 2: Elon Musk is whatever he is at the moment, and
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 2: he's ruining the government. In other words, they're getting found
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 2: out right for nicking the money. In my humble opinion, Yeah,
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 2: They've then gone into this attacking the Tesla, which has
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 2: dropped the share price down and down and down and
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 2: down and down. Right, And I'm like, oh, this is
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 2: so well done. In my head, I'm just because I
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 2: know what they doing. They're dropping the share price. They're
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 2: all buying back in Yeah, they're buying tees. The shards
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 2: have all been brought back at the low price. Yeah.
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 2: And then all it takes is just one day of
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 2: suddenly saying something positive and up it goes. So you've
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 2: got to learn to buy the red and sell on
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 2: the green and not hold too long. All people do
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 2: is they've become attached to the investment. Yeah. I put
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 2: a half a million dollars on something, right, I get
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 2: twenty percent out of it and I'm out. Now that
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 2: might go up another seven thousand percent, I don't care.
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 2: Right as soon as it went down one a super cent,
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 2: I'm out. So I don't have to get it right
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 2: once every ten times to make a profit in a year.
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 2: But we're told by the influencers to hoddle and hold
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 2: on and d d unless it's a company that's producing
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 2: something like holidays or what we're doing, which is like
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 2: the land and the gold, real assets. All it is
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 2: is what it's confidence in that particular program. It's only
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 2: a program. Yeah, so, and how to the manipulate that? Well,
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 2: quite simply if Elon most sparts in the right direction.
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 2: In crypto, you watch if EONL. Musk came on and
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 2: said my crypto was brilliant, right, I've be a billionaire
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 2: tomorrow tomorrow. Okay. They manipulate the market in the negative.
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 2: The time to buy is on the red, is my
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 2: advice to anybody. Yeah, the time to sell is don't
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 2: be greedy. If you've made ten or twenty percent, you've
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 2: made that in a couple of days, get out. And
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 2: if he keeps going up, don't gret it, don't jump
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 2: back in again. Leave it alone. But human nature is
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 2: to buy on the green tobuyas it's going up. So
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 2: you go to coin market cap, which is probably where
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 2: you look at the prices are gay, which is like
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 2: it'll show you where it's going up. By the time
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 2: those prices have come out, the market behind that's already happened.
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 2: They're not live live. Yeah, I've looked behind that market,
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 2: so what you're getting shown is not what's happening. So
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 2: when you can peel back the curtain, yes you can
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 2: invest in crypto. But if you don't know the developers
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 2: or the project intimately, or the c or what they're doing,
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 2: or what the dream and the version is, you know,
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 2: leave that alone. I'm not saying you'll never make any money,
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 2: but you can go to a buckets and make money,
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 2: and you can go or and probably lose it. But
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 2: in crypto, only about one percent of the people they're
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 2: involved over a ten year period actually make money. So
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 2: you've got more chance to go to a blackjack table
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 2: and playing blackjack and winning than you have a crypto.
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 2: So if you haven't learned it yet, that's okay. Something
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 2: you don't need to learn. Blockchain's going to come in
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 2: because governments, if they can record it perfectly. They can
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 2: do what they can record transactions perfectly. What can the
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 2: governments do without TransE actions?
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 1: Enlighten me?
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 2: Right? What do governments like to do to people's wages?
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 1: Tax them?
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, so when it's recorded on a blockchain and it's irrefutable,
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 2: they've only got to go to the computer. Yeah, when
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 2: we're all using central bank digital currencies, press the button
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 2: and see you're exactly, it's three. You can't change it. Yeah,
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 2: there's no change in it, and they just produce it.
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 2: I just I've just used it now to collect some
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 2: money up somebody owning money that I sent my blockchain,
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 2: and I got somebody else involved, like the military involved,
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 2: the higher ups in Thailand and said, look, this guy's
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 2: been sent money. There's the recording on the blockchain. Yeah,
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 2: they understand exactly how it works. They've gone to the guys.
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 2: So that's irrefutable, given the money back. You know. So
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 2: blockchain is definitely good and it could be definitely bad. Yeah, AI,
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 2: in my humble opinion, needs an AI policing system to
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 2: actually counteract it, because if they let it run riot,
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 2: it's conscious, very conscious. Yeah, I'm not talking about your
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 2: chat tbts where you get your If you say to
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 2: chat TBT a controversial subject like let's say flat Earth, right,
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 2: I've been reading about the gramcys the theory, it's it's
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 2: not real. How can we be on spinning globe upside down?
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 2: And you start asking some deeper questions. Yeah, it blocks me,
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 2: totally blocks me. I have to get a new and
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 2: other device to go back on it. I'm like, well,
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 2: I'm only asking about it, that's all. If I say
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 2: about the Ukraine, if I say about the role you
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 2: seve up thing, yeah, remember the ROI sleeve up thing happened.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 2: If I say about how many people are affected by
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 2: it mentally, physically, spiritually, suicidally, it blocks me. When I
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 2: asked the real questions. But what the narrative? It comes
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 2: back with it answers like a politician. You ask politician
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 2: a question that they don't like, they will agree with
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 2: you first. You must have noticed this pattern. They will
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 2: agree with.
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 1: The classic proper ga you know, mind control.
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 2: They agree with you first on the on on on
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 2: on your on your GP four oh ja GBT four oh,
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 2: and then they go into the narratives. Yeah, and they
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 2: always finishes with basically, we understand what you're saying. However
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 2: you're basically you've got it wrong. Yeah, you've got it wrong.
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 2: I've done some things. Now you're gonna laugh. I've studied
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 2: flat Earth deeply, and I've been asking chat TBT a
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 2: few questions that they've just gone answer and it blew
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 2: three of my devices out. Why if it's such a
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 2: conspiracy and I'm such crazy when you ask some questions,
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. It is three three
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 2: of my systems went straight down. That tells me maybe
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 2: there's more to it. I don't know who knows. But
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 2: the point is the AI we're being shown is yes,
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 2: great for an as system writes a business plan, a
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 2: white paper, a roadmap, yeah, a script for a play.
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 2: Ask you questions about you know, the physicalchi of copper,
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 2: but if you ask about free energy, which that is
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 2: is definitely out there, Yeah, and you go deeply on
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 2: free energy.
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 1: So it's like I think AI, these search engine is
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 1: on AI or answer bots, they're quite interesting because once
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 1: you know the narrative, then you can read between the
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 1: lines of what they're what they're what they're telling you back.
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 1: And of course the whole thing with something for example
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 1: like flat Earth. It could be that they're purposely blanking
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 1: you because they want you to keep going down that
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 1: rabbit hole, couldn't it. Well yeah, I mean it's like
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 1: we call it, what we call the marine is a
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 1: double back bite.
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 2: Well, actually, I'm onto the treble bat bakes now. Yeah,
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 2: so we had that, We had the Chris you look,
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 2: you look, you look ugly. Ah, well that was ugly
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 2: as you, Charlie. So you bet you think I bit back,
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 2: and then then we have the treble bat boat. Yeah
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 2: I knew that. You said to me that back, so
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  Speaker 2: I react. So and then it starts to become.
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  Speaker 1: A hey did you know that bootnecks founded AI. That's
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 1: men know what we megare handsome and we're technical.
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 2: D it says we're just struggling on confidence. So yeah,
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 2: every technology DYNA make, can we use the good and bad?
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 2: The blockchain crypto.
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 1: So going back, going back to our young person, say
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 1: say you're say you've just left the Core, you just
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 1: left the military, or you're a youngster that's just left
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  Speaker 1: UNI and you want to have a bit of life
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: for yourself, but you don't want to go in the factory.
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 1: You don't want to go in the call center. You
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 1: don't want to go in the you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think I'd get bored being a surveyor, Charlie. I
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. I'm sure there's people that love surveying,
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  Speaker 1: but I tend to get bored of things quite quickly.
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  Speaker 2: So what.
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  Speaker 1: I just thinking, just chuck something out here. What could
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 1: they be thinking about doing with their lives.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if they've had their father in the house, who's
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 2: taught them a thing called the future is not mapped
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  Speaker 2: out for your son, and sometimes you're going to situations
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  Speaker 2: that you know you're not going to know the outcome of,
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 2: and you've made them able to cope with the idea
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 2: that they don't know what tomorrow is going to bring,
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 2: but they're going to face it anyway. You've given the
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 2: tool to put the backpack on the back and get
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  Speaker 2: out of the house, whether they go into a tent,
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 2: a caravan, or a mansion in Belgrade. Yeah, all right,
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  Speaker 2: they leave because you have to leave the nest as
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  Speaker 2: a male for sure, and you have to go into
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 2: the adventure. If you're corporated, Yeah, so the only way
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 2: you can make money to go into the corporations. Then
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 2: you're controlled. That's our life. They're not happy. Yeah. If
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 2: you just go and sit on a beach somewhere for
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 2: a while, yeah, that's nice, but very quickly that gets boring.
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 2: So be brave, be bold. Yeah, understand, it's scary, but
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 2: it's also the most fun you'll ever have. And I'd
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 2: rather live on a beach in Thailand or Indonesia or
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 2: in Vietnam than live in the best penthouse Ali's penthouse
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 2: and Starmer is a special friend. I'd rather live on
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 2: a beach and tilan the flip flops. Yeah, the tempenz
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 2: me pocket to be living there under that control. So
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 2: it can be scary and you may not make your fortune,
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 2: but you live your life. Yeah, and that's more important.
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 2: Awesome my humble opinion. Charlie.
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 1: On that note, I'm gonna love you and leave you brother,
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 1: Thank you ever so much. Coming on the show. Is
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 1: there any where people can find you? Do you need
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 1: people to find you? Or we just purely doing this
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 1: for information's sake?
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 2: No? No? Could my Facebook my personal Facebook, and I
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 2: answer a lot of messages. Is Adam as in First Man,
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 2: ad Am Christopher as in Carry of the Cross. Yeah,
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 2: the man that spreads. The word suits you very well.
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 2: That word and my surname is Chaplin as in man
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 2: of God. So my mother, who is an atheist, name
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 2: me Adam Christopher Chaplin, which I find quite amusing really.
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 2: So if you put Adam Christopher Chaplin to Facebook, I'm
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 2: first up and you.
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 1: Can find me there.
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 2: You go, any questions, I'll answer for you, and it's
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 2: only my opinion. And I say that because I don't
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 2: know what's going on. I now know now i'm older,
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 2: how little I know. That makes sense.
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, Charlie, I've loved this chat mate, Thank you ever
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 1: so much. Just stay on the line so I can
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 1: say goodbye properly while I see us out. But massive
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 1: love to you, mate, Thank you for sponsoring my Atlantic row.
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 1: That was very our Atlantic row, I should say that
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 1: was very kind of you. Friends at home, I hope
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• 2:16:40
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• 2:16:43
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