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- 0:05Speaker 1: There was this massive dog man and he had already
- 0:10Speaker 1: had one pall massive Paul on my front the chilled
- 0:14Speaker 1: and one Paul right above my mirror on the driver's side,
- 0:19Speaker 1: and the driver's side of my car just pushed down,
- 0:23Speaker 1: just the weight of it just puts pushed down, and
- 0:26Speaker 1: the Paul that was on my front windshield, my windshield
- 0:29Speaker 1: started cracking.
- 0:31Speaker 2: And held it and held it and held it. And
- 0:33Speaker 2: then while I was holding it that, it's like the
- 0:38Speaker 2: ground underneath me just kind of opened up and I
- 0:43Speaker 2: just kind of fell through the planet. He wasn't moving,
- 0:48Speaker 2: he wasn't blinking, like there was a complete like just
- 0:52Speaker 2: like blankness to his face, like there was this there
- 0:55Speaker 2: was nothing there. I rubbed my idle my truck. I
- 1:02Speaker 2: jump out the truck and our truck, and that's what
- 1:04Speaker 2: I knew it was. It was just gold mare. There
- 1:10Speaker 2: would be a real low guttural crowd.
- 1:16Speaker 3: One more step and he's going to be in clear view.
- 1:19Speaker 3: And he takes that one.
- 1:20Speaker 2: More step and he just it was like he just
- 1:22Speaker 2: stepped behind an invisible curtain and he wasn't there anymore.
- 1:31Speaker 2: Welcome back to show everybody, this is episode nine with
- 1:34Speaker 2: my good friend Daniel Ian Cahun, formerly known as the
- 1:39Speaker 2: host of the Magical Journey podcast, now known as Backwoods Signal.
- 1:43Speaker 2: We had to rebranding all the things that he's going
- 1:45Speaker 2: to be doing to make his show a little bit different.
- 1:48Speaker 2: He's kind of approaching he's a little bit different. I'm
- 1:50Speaker 2: doing more research and yeah, this is what he's wanted
- 1:54Speaker 2: to do it. I think it's awesome and I'm here
- 1:55Speaker 2: to support him. So we talked about a place that's
- 1:58Speaker 2: very close to his house. It's Oak Ridge and it's
- 2:01Speaker 2: a nut player facility, and there was a first apparently
- 2:05Speaker 2: a dude there, uh, you know, who kind of prophesied
- 2:08Speaker 2: the happening of all this and like they had a
- 2:11Speaker 2: big connection with him. An Manhattan project and Daniel excuse him,
- 2:16Speaker 2: a little under weather today. And Daniel's going to go
- 2:18Speaker 2: through and actually do some deep diving into that because
- 2:21Speaker 2: you know, he thinks people are saying there's portals, theres
- 2:24Speaker 2: and things like that, but he also doesn't, you know,
- 2:27Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily believe that, wants to look into that, but
- 2:29Speaker 2: he also wants to go through and take it apart
- 2:31Speaker 2: and see if there's anything to it. If you want
- 2:33Speaker 2: to reach out to the IA Jupiter Podcast. Please do
- 2:36Speaker 2: me a favor and do so at the IA Jupiter
- 2:38Speaker 2: Podcast at gmail dot com and I will get back
- 2:41Speaker 2: to you. All my links in the description below, all
- 2:44Speaker 2: my links to my guest in the links in the
- 2:47Speaker 2: description below. It's been a lot since dumb one of these.
- 2:50Speaker 2: I'm very sick. I hope you guys enjoy this episode,
- 2:53Speaker 2: and I hope you enjoy My friend from Backwood Signal,
- 2:56Speaker 2: mister Daniel ian Cahun, trying to enter a little bit
- 3:01Speaker 2: today because this next guest, you guys know him. He's
- 3:04Speaker 2: one of my one of the one of my best friends. Man,
- 3:07Speaker 2: he's uh, he's fantastic.
- 3:09Speaker 4: Uh.
- 3:10Speaker 2: He's been with me through stick and thin from the
- 3:12Speaker 2: beginning of his show. I've been with him from the
- 3:15Speaker 2: beginning of his show formerly known as The Magical Journey Podcast,
- 3:19Speaker 2: now known as Backwood Signal. He is none other than
- 3:23Speaker 2: the abominable or whatever that word is. Mister Daniel ian Cahoun,
- 3:28Speaker 2: what's up, buddy? Is it abominable or adominable?
- 3:36Speaker 3: I think abominable would be like a snowman.
- 3:41Speaker 2: Yeah, And what's what's the word I'm looking for? Abnormal? No,
- 3:43Speaker 2: not that, definitely not.
- 3:45Speaker 3: I mean you're not wrong. Wow.
- 3:51Speaker 2: Wow, we're having some really big thunder boomies. Man, it
- 3:54Speaker 2: was a really big one. So that's gonna be a
- 3:56Speaker 2: fun one. Guy, it's really good, all right. We got
- 3:59Speaker 2: a nice little background sounds going on, so this one's
- 4:02Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of fun. So, man, how's it been?
- 4:05Speaker 2: How are you? What's going on?
- 4:08Speaker 3: So you know, it's been busy. I ain't gonna lie
- 4:12Speaker 3: between work and the podcast rebranding. I know some people
- 4:20Speaker 3: are like, really, you're doing this again, But honestly, the
- 4:26Speaker 3: rebranding came mostly because I was getting a lot of
- 4:32Speaker 3: people telling me, Hey, when I tried to find all
- 4:35Speaker 3: your stuff online, you know, I'm kind of lazy. I
- 4:39Speaker 3: don't put in the whole Magical Journey podcasts Between Worlds.
- 4:43Speaker 3: I don't put all that stuff in. Sometimes I just
- 4:46Speaker 3: put in Magical Journey and I get this whole like
- 4:50Speaker 3: list of everything but your stuff. And I'm like, that's
- 4:52Speaker 3: because when I rebranded to Between Worlds, it was supposed
- 4:59Speaker 3: to take care of all that, but I left out
- 5:01Speaker 3: the fact that humanity is inevitably kind of lazy.
- 5:06Speaker 2: Yeah, So so.
- 5:10Speaker 3: I started thinking about it, and I was like, what
- 5:15Speaker 3: if I was going to go in a completely different
- 5:17Speaker 3: direction with the podcast as far as the branding goes,
- 5:20Speaker 3: what would best fit what I do, because the Magical
- 5:26Speaker 3: Journey brand was something from a long time ago when
- 5:30Speaker 3: I started doing social media, and I just carried it
- 5:33Speaker 3: over thinking, Hey, I've got the brand, let's just keep
- 5:36Speaker 3: it and go with it. Honestly, I started thinking about it.
- 5:42Speaker 3: I finally punched in some really good stuff to chat GBT,
- 5:47Speaker 3: telling it exactly what I was looking for, why I
- 5:49Speaker 3: was looking for it, and backwards Signal was one of
- 5:54Speaker 3: several names that came up. Yeah, and I was just like,
- 6:00Speaker 3: oh wow, okay. And then, of course what's really interesting
- 6:06Speaker 3: is I had already planned on relocating to the Cumberland
- 6:11Speaker 3: Plateau area next year, which is yeah, yeah, this is
- 6:20Speaker 3: it's kind of a need to move mixed in with
- 6:24Speaker 3: a longtime goal to be back in Appalachia. So moving
- 6:30Speaker 3: in Appalachia, I decided, you know what, this is perfect.
- 6:34Speaker 3: I can rename the podcast, rebrand the podcast, and repackage
- 6:40Speaker 3: the way I'm doing it right now because what I've
- 6:43Speaker 3: been doing work for a while, and it worked good
- 6:46Speaker 3: for a while, having you know, a new guest each
- 6:50Speaker 3: week covering topics that you know, and I'll still be
- 6:56Speaker 3: doing that, but I'm looking at ways to innovate and
- 7:02Speaker 3: change how I present some stuff because I'm doing more
- 7:06Speaker 3: research now.
- 7:08Speaker 2: And that's why You've always been. The thing is that
- 7:13Speaker 2: ever since the beginning, you know, you've always been, you know,
- 7:15Speaker 2: a person that would go to a person of strength,
- 7:17Speaker 2: who comes from a different angle and perspective on things
- 7:20Speaker 2: that I've always respected and always thought was very interesting.
- 7:23Speaker 2: And you always said, Tom, I always got your protection, buddy,
- 7:25Speaker 2: I always got your back, and I always like, I
- 7:27Speaker 2: was a little afraid. I'm like, what does that mean?
- 7:29Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. That's not what I do.
- 7:33Speaker 2: But at the same time, you've always not only been
- 7:36Speaker 2: an incredible podcaster, but at the same time, you've always
- 7:38Speaker 2: been the kind of person who would just be like, uh,
- 7:40Speaker 2: you know, I look into this stuff. So like when
- 7:43Speaker 2: I asked you to come on, we were scheduling this
- 7:45Speaker 2: for about two weeks ahead, and I was like, Okay,
- 7:49Speaker 2: what about today because I think you said Fridays are best.
- 7:51Speaker 2: I was like, well, maybe because I know you moved
- 7:53Speaker 2: your show from Friday to Saturday. So I was like, okay,
- 7:57Speaker 2: so maybe we can squeeze one in the day only
- 8:00Speaker 2: if possible. And I asked that because I know you
- 8:04Speaker 2: like to get notes prepared, but also knowing you probably
- 8:07Speaker 2: already hadn't prepared in case the inevitability of someone asking
- 8:11Speaker 2: you to come on, and you were so gracious to
- 8:13Speaker 2: do so. So yeah, man, tell us like a little
- 8:16Speaker 2: bit about yourself, dude, why do you do to show
- 8:19Speaker 2: what kind of research you actually do?
- 8:22Speaker 3: So I've always been and for the most part, a researcher,
- 8:28Speaker 3: like since I was like nine, ten years old, and
- 8:31Speaker 3: people are like, what kind of research were you doing
- 8:33Speaker 3: it nine or ten? Well, a few months ago, years, decades,
- 8:40Speaker 3: decades ago, there was very little out there to research.
- 8:44Speaker 3: We didn't have Internet. You had to go to the
- 8:46Speaker 3: bookstore to find a lot of stuff.
- 8:50Speaker 2: You know.
- 8:50Speaker 3: There were occasionally articles on in the newspaper to lead
- 8:54Speaker 3: you places and so forth. But I started out just
- 8:58Speaker 3: doing a lot of reading, watching a lot of the
- 9:01Speaker 3: shows that everybody grew up with, you know, Leonard Nimoy
- 9:05Speaker 3: and all of those great people that were doing some
- 9:08Speaker 3: of the weird paranorm stuff.
- 9:11Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 9:14Speaker 3: Yeah, and back in the day, that's kind of what
- 9:19Speaker 3: we did for research. That and you know, listen when
- 9:23Speaker 3: people would talk about some of the stories of strange
- 9:26Speaker 3: stuff in their lives and so forth, and kind of
- 9:28Speaker 3: get inquisitive about it, well you know what happened that
- 9:31Speaker 3: sort of thing. So that led to eventually investigating and
- 9:36Speaker 3: doing a lot of paranormal and uh UFO citing investigation
- 9:43Speaker 3: over time. So by my twenties I was I was
- 9:46Speaker 3: actually starting to get involved in putting uh investigation into
- 9:52Speaker 3: my portfolio. And over the years it's just kind of
- 9:56Speaker 3: escalated and I was like, you know, we've got is
- 10:00Speaker 3: great media now to go out and be able to
- 10:04Speaker 3: do podcasting. I saw one of your shows and I
- 10:07Speaker 3: was like, you know, I could do this. I could
- 10:12Speaker 3: really do this. This is like not something This is
- 10:16Speaker 3: not something that you know, it takes a lot to
- 10:20Speaker 3: get started with. You don't need a lot of a
- 10:22Speaker 3: fancy equipment, you don't need a host set up. You
- 10:25Speaker 3: just need the tenacity.
- 10:31Speaker 2: Human skills. I think human skills the ability to talk,
- 10:34Speaker 2: and it's important.
- 10:36Speaker 3: Very very and so that's kind of what led me
- 10:40Speaker 3: to really get to where I am now. But one
- 10:46Speaker 3: of the things that came to I've talked about it
- 10:50Speaker 3: a lot lately with Austin Lawrence from The Dead Chronicles
- 10:56Speaker 3: he and I talk quite a bit, and he's made
- 11:02Speaker 3: it very public that he's he's probably going to be well,
- 11:05Speaker 3: it's not probably, he's leaving the paranormal community to do
- 11:11Speaker 3: a bigger project, much bigger projects. And we were talking
- 11:17Speaker 3: about it and I was like, you know, I'm kind
- 11:22Speaker 3: of fed up in a way too, because there's so
- 11:24Speaker 3: much sensationalism and there's so much misinformation. People having these
- 11:29Speaker 3: folks on that they're not vetting all of these things,
- 11:33Speaker 3: and you know, of course it's kind of hard sometimes
- 11:37Speaker 3: to vet every single person. Like I'm sure you've had
- 11:41Speaker 3: people on that I know you've had because we've talked
- 11:44Speaker 3: about it, that you've got what I don't. I don't
- 11:50Speaker 3: know whether I believe this or not, but let's go
- 11:52Speaker 3: for it.
- 11:53Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one in particular that I know what you're
- 11:55Speaker 2: talking about. Yeah, oh yeah, I got another one too
- 11:58Speaker 2: that it was kind of like a stroke of luck
- 12:01Speaker 2: where I was having some technical difficulties and then towards
- 12:03Speaker 2: the end, I was like, okay, being nice about it, Okay,
- 12:06Speaker 2: we can do it again because this is not working
- 12:08Speaker 2: right now for whatever reason. And I kind of got
- 12:10Speaker 2: lucky that it didn't happen again. But honestly, I do
- 12:14Speaker 2: a little bit of betting, but most of the time
- 12:17Speaker 2: I just get very lucky when you have a good
- 12:19Speaker 2: reputation as being a good podcaster and somebody who listens
- 12:23Speaker 2: as somebody who offers you know, like you know, like
- 12:27Speaker 2: not advice so much, but somebody is just kind of like, hey, man,
- 12:30Speaker 2: you know, you can tell me it's okay, and people go, yeah,
- 12:33Speaker 2: he's you know, he's a good dude. That's where I
- 12:35Speaker 2: get most of my things. I don't get. I get
- 12:39Speaker 2: people actually contacting me now, which is weird. I got
- 12:43Speaker 2: to be completely honest with you. That's never happened before,
- 12:46Speaker 2: you know, authors and a like, and it's a process.
- 12:50Speaker 2: You know, you have to you have to kind of
- 12:53Speaker 2: do it to go through it, you know, and or
- 12:55Speaker 2: go through it to do it or whatever. That is. No,
- 12:57Speaker 2: that didn't make no sense whatever I mean even that
- 12:59Speaker 2: not grammically grammatically speaking, makes sense. But a yow, I
- 13:04Speaker 2: it's it's been. It's been an awesome thing. And uh
- 13:07Speaker 2: I've been you know, I always kind of take a
- 13:09Speaker 2: look over and you and I are always in the
- 13:11Speaker 2: background sharing information and uh, hey this is a good person.
- 13:15Speaker 2: They're cool and or like if I run into a
- 13:17Speaker 2: really cool episode and I get excited after recording, and
- 13:21Speaker 2: you know, I always say, hey, man, you got to
- 13:23Speaker 2: contact this person because I would love to hear how
- 13:25Speaker 2: you approach it, because your approach is so much different
- 13:29Speaker 2: in mine because of the way you research it. I'm
- 13:32Speaker 2: more like reactionary as and in the moment, and you're
- 13:38Speaker 2: you're that way too, don't get me wrong, but you're
- 13:40Speaker 2: but you're a little bit you know, the way you
- 13:42Speaker 2: do it is different, and I always enjoy then watching
- 13:45Speaker 2: you do it again because then maybe I can actually
- 13:48Speaker 2: contact the person again about something you asked that I
- 13:52Speaker 2: might want to go into. So it's always interesting to
- 13:55Speaker 2: actually watch you do your thing.
- 13:56Speaker 3: Man, thank you. Yeah, I try. I mean the whole point.
- 14:02Speaker 3: And this is where it's going to kind of start
- 14:07Speaker 3: showing a difference in the branding as far as the
- 14:11Speaker 3: way I go about doing things. Is the current thing
- 14:16Speaker 3: that I'm working on, in particular with the research has
- 14:19Speaker 3: to deal with Oakridge, Tennessee, which is probably one of
- 14:23Speaker 3: the most sensationalized, over the top, misinformed, like just it's
- 14:33Speaker 3: about I'll be modest and say fifty percent of the
- 14:38Speaker 3: stuff that you hear about Oakridge is speculation and garbage.
- 14:43Speaker 3: There's nothing to really back it up. There's very little
- 14:51Speaker 3: evidence at this point to any of these baseless accusations
- 14:59Speaker 3: about Ridge, and some of it will never be known
- 15:02Speaker 3: because quite frankly, Oakridge is actively part of our national
- 15:06Speaker 3: security even now. So there is something.
- 15:12Speaker 2: Could you give me a little bit of background on it,
- 15:14Speaker 2: because I'm somebody who's not because Oakridge is in Tennessee,
- 15:16Speaker 2: I'd imagine correct, Yeah, okay, could you give us or
- 15:20Speaker 2: the listeners who don't know what it is that you're
- 15:22Speaker 2: referring to, a bit of you know, a bit of
- 15:25Speaker 2: a how did you say, like a biography piece on
- 15:28Speaker 2: what Oakridge actually is? And maybe we don't know everything there,
- 15:32Speaker 2: but what is known by the public as to what
- 15:35Speaker 2: happens there.
- 15:37Speaker 3: So Oakridge, Tennessee, it actually used to be back in
- 15:44Speaker 3: it before the World War two there it was a community.
- 15:52Speaker 3: It was a farming community.
- 15:54Speaker 1: And.
- 15:56Speaker 3: Because of its location and some other things, the government
- 16:02Speaker 3: went in and they they acquired the land, which, by
- 16:06Speaker 3: the way, all of that was actually prophesied. It was
- 16:10Speaker 3: it was all predicted very accurately, which is part of
- 16:14Speaker 3: the first installment that I'm working on right now. I
- 16:20Speaker 3: did a live broadcasts last Friday, last Saturday on John Hendricks,
- 16:29Speaker 3: the profit of the profit of Creage, and that is, Uh,
- 16:36Speaker 3: this guy was basically very uneducated.
- 16:41Speaker 1: Uh.
- 16:41Speaker 3: He finally learned to read and write, but for a
- 16:44Speaker 3: long time he know how to do that, and he
- 16:49Speaker 3: I won't go into his host story, but he I
- 16:51Speaker 3: will say that he had some kind of event happened
- 16:57Speaker 3: where he was. He foresaw the coming of a city
- 17:03Speaker 3: and great buildings, and he accurately described railroads and where
- 17:09Speaker 3: they would actually be at and so forth. Now the
- 17:13Speaker 3: thing that really us blows me away about everything he
- 17:17Speaker 3: said because he died in nineteen fifteen. Okay, but he
- 17:22Speaker 3: said that Oakridge would have a great factory that would
- 17:27Speaker 3: be building something that would help end the greatest war
- 17:32Speaker 3: known to man ever. Interesting, So fast forward.
- 17:38Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fascinating because I kind of know what you're
- 17:41Speaker 2: hinting at. If I had to guess, I'm I'm not
- 17:43Speaker 2: going to guess it because I don't want to, like,
- 17:44Speaker 2: you know, jump the shark here, But I am I
- 17:47Speaker 2: think I know what you're talking about. But I love it. Please.
- 17:51Speaker 3: So Oakridge got acquired by the government. The government went
- 17:56Speaker 3: in and built what they call the secret They actually
- 17:58Speaker 3: Oakridge is still referred to. It was a secret city.
- 18:01Speaker 3: It wasn't even on the map at the time. Everything
- 18:04Speaker 3: that was there was built not only for the government
- 18:10Speaker 3: to do serious work factories and so forth, but it
- 18:17Speaker 3: was actually there was housing developments built there, There was shopping,
- 18:22Speaker 3: There was everything that you would need in a community
- 18:24Speaker 3: there for the people that were there, and there were
- 18:28Speaker 3: many many, There were thousands of people pushed into Oakredge
- 18:32Speaker 3: for this. I actually have an ex girlfriend who was
- 18:35Speaker 3: born in Oakridge. Her dad worked at I believe the
- 18:41Speaker 3: Y twelve facility at one time. He may have worked
- 18:44Speaker 3: at K twenty five, but I think it was a
- 18:46Speaker 3: Y twelve. And what Oakridge was essentially created for. One
- 18:55Speaker 3: of the things was to build the components for the
- 18:59Speaker 3: first bombs that were used to end World War two.
- 19:04Speaker 3: So both Fat Boy and Little Man MHM was actually
- 19:12Speaker 3: developed there in Oakridge. Uh, there was. They also were
- 19:18Speaker 3: responsible for using all the the you know, nasty stuff
- 19:24Speaker 3: that went into it, not just building the components, so
- 19:28Speaker 3: you know. And and today it is still a uranium
- 19:32Speaker 3: enrichment and containing area, but not only for the military,
- 19:39Speaker 3: but commercially they do things as well. So the whole
- 19:48Speaker 3: creation of Oakridge was has always been about national security,
- 19:56Speaker 3: the deterrent, the nuclear deterrent weapons, and and also the
- 20:01Speaker 3: other thing that they do is to try to have
- 20:06Speaker 3: some voice in the de escalation of nuclear It's too
- 20:16Speaker 3: because we don't we we don't want to just create
- 20:19Speaker 3: a world that we want to destroy. We want to
- 20:22Speaker 3: create a world that we actually find some balance in
- 20:26Speaker 3: and that's kind of what they're trying to do. So
- 20:32Speaker 3: in the newest well not the newest, but the earlier
- 20:37Speaker 3: releases from the War Department on the UFO files, there
- 20:44Speaker 3: were two key pieces of documentation that mentioned Oakridge specifically
- 20:52Speaker 3: in those files, and this is one of the areas
- 20:55Speaker 3: that we definitely know there's because there's documentary on it
- 21:00Speaker 3: as well as some video from what I understand that
- 21:05Speaker 3: there was U A p UFO activity in and around
- 21:09Speaker 3: the area. We know that there is a semi documented
- 21:15Speaker 3: a UFO abduction from the Clinch River area over by
- 21:20Speaker 3: where the Y twelve facility is. There's certain things that
- 21:26Speaker 3: we know as far as the U A p UFO
- 21:29Speaker 3: experience that have been documented that documented there that we
- 21:35Speaker 3: do have some kind of proof that something kind of
- 21:40Speaker 3: wonky went on there at one point, So the UFO
- 21:48Speaker 3: U a p thing that's something worth chasing and finding
- 21:54Speaker 3: out what what was it, what happened there. The thing
- 22:01Speaker 3: that has become really traditional though with Oakrage in particular,
- 22:07Speaker 3: is creating these scenarios where all of a sudden they're
- 22:14Speaker 3: trying to open up portals and you know, and supposedly
- 22:18Speaker 3: they have a collider there. Honestly, even if they do,
- 22:24Speaker 3: we will never know for sure. But the stuff that
- 22:30Speaker 3: they have that they're working on there right now that
- 22:34Speaker 3: we do know about is stuff that force that pushes
- 22:41Speaker 3: the boundaries of science where they work with dark matter
- 22:44Speaker 3: and so forth, like that they're trying to experiment with
- 22:47Speaker 3: dark matter and so forth. We do know that. But
- 22:51Speaker 3: as far as having you know, colliders and opening up
- 22:55Speaker 3: portals and having people, you know, one of the big
- 23:01Speaker 3: podcasters out there has from the area has made a
- 23:06Speaker 3: comment before that he's met somebody who claims to you know,
- 23:11Speaker 3: be or was working in the facility, you know, whose
- 23:16Speaker 3: job was to you know, un alive anything that comes
- 23:19Speaker 3: through the portal. You know, again, there's nothing, there's no
- 23:26Speaker 3: way of proving any of this, and so what we're
- 23:29Speaker 3: trying to do when I'm trying to do is to
- 23:32Speaker 3: bring out the things that we can find documentation for
- 23:37Speaker 3: the things that we can actually speak on with some
- 23:44Speaker 3: stimulants of truth to it, you know, and kind of
- 23:47Speaker 3: dismiss some of the like there's rumors about Mothman being
- 23:51Speaker 3: seen there and all kinds of crazy stuff. None of
- 23:56Speaker 3: this is something that we've been able to document or
- 23:58Speaker 3: find any positive proof on at this point. And here's
- 24:04Speaker 3: where the problem is with the paranormal and you know,
- 24:10Speaker 3: supernatural community.
- 24:11Speaker 2: Sorry, Daniel, do you mind if I asked you a question?
- 24:13Speaker 2: Are you going to actually maybe in your in your
- 24:17Speaker 2: research are you going to put in some Freedom of
- 24:19Speaker 2: Information Act requests? I? I know you, bro, I know you.
- 24:24Speaker 2: So this is a this is a real question. We
- 24:25Speaker 2: haven't talked about this at all. Guys, Like when when
- 24:28Speaker 2: Daniel tells me things, he told me that he's got
- 24:30Speaker 2: some things in the work. He kind of you did
- 24:32Speaker 2: mention no creage, and I was like, yeah, man, I
- 24:34Speaker 2: love that, you know. I love when someone just sinks
- 24:36Speaker 2: their teeth into something and this is this is you,
- 24:38Speaker 2: This is right up your alley. But I I just
- 24:40Speaker 2: want to know, you know, is that is that? Are
- 24:42Speaker 2: those cards on the table for you to do that.
- 24:45Speaker 3: There there will be times when when I do some
- 24:49Speaker 3: of that because you know, here's the thing. I think
- 24:53Speaker 3: we also have this kewed version of what falls under
- 25:00Speaker 3: what categories. Okay I think, And don't get me wrong,
- 25:05Speaker 3: I don't want to. I don't want to say that
- 25:08Speaker 3: everything can be debunked because I'm not there yet. I
- 25:11Speaker 3: don't know. I'm I'm in the beginning phases of trying
- 25:16Speaker 3: to sort out all the messes, and that's where where
- 25:20Speaker 3: it gets kind of interesting. And yeah, I will definitely
- 25:24Speaker 3: be working with with some filing Freedom of Information Act.
- 25:29Speaker 2: It's okay, We're got to cut it right there. I
- 25:31Speaker 2: think the water guys are here.
- 25:39Speaker 4: I told you, sorry littles, okay, okay, huh see it.
- 26:12Speaker 2: You know see ah, you know where we're gonna leave
- 26:30Speaker 2: that in because that's okay, guys, that's I'm really in Mexico.
- 26:36Speaker 2: So you can't drink the water out of the out
- 26:39Speaker 2: of the sink here, you just can't. They don't have
- 26:41Speaker 2: any water filtration system. You will get sick. So we
- 26:44Speaker 2: have to. You know, there's like big big bottles that
- 26:47Speaker 2: they put at the the dentist office. We get we
- 26:50Speaker 2: go through about one and a half of those a
- 26:52Speaker 2: week for cooking, and uh, you can brush your teeth
- 26:54Speaker 2: with the water, but like cooking, drinking things like that,
- 26:57Speaker 2: we use that water and they come by your other
- 27:00Speaker 2: days surprised, and I forgot, But I did have the
- 27:03Speaker 2: bottles ready this time. So if there's a little bit
- 27:06Speaker 2: left in one, I have an extra bottle that I
- 27:08Speaker 2: pour it into that we can drink out of that
- 27:10Speaker 2: I used, you know, when I was super broke. And
- 27:13Speaker 2: now you get to hear me speak some Spanish. I
- 27:16Speaker 2: told him, hey, thank you very much this times. This time,
- 27:19Speaker 2: I'm finally ready because normally I forget. And what else
- 27:22Speaker 2: was that? Oh yeah, be careful there's a lot of
- 27:25Speaker 2: lightning bolts out here right now. He goes, No, man,
- 27:26Speaker 2: I'm enjoying at the rand and it's cooling me down.
- 27:31Speaker 2: Go buddy, there you go. All right. So you're you're
- 27:33Speaker 2: considering putting in freedom of information request because of you
- 27:38Speaker 2: just shut you know, at the beginning phases of your research. Uh,
- 27:40Speaker 2: you're planning on moving close or something of this nature,
- 27:43Speaker 2: and Appalachia, I don't know. I don't don't tell me
- 27:45Speaker 2: where you're going, buddy, Uh, because I don't want to know.
- 27:48Speaker 2: Let's leave it a mystery. I will becoming a visitor
- 27:50Speaker 2: ass one time. You know. That's happening. Now I can
- 27:52Speaker 2: do it. We'll be doing it. Where are you going, Tom,
- 27:55Speaker 2: I'm gonna go see my buddy. We're gonna I'm gonna
- 27:57Speaker 2: crash at his house. All right, cool, all right, man?
- 28:01Speaker 2: Please continue. That was just life is real. We're going
- 28:04Speaker 2: to keep that in there, right right. Yeah.
- 28:08Speaker 3: So what we have essentially right now is a lot
- 28:12Speaker 3: of a lot of sensationalism, a lot of things and
- 28:17Speaker 3: things that are things are not being talked about that
- 28:20Speaker 3: are really important. Like John Hendricks, that story is very important.
- 28:28Speaker 3: And you know, even though it's really considered folklore by
- 28:36Speaker 3: you know, people in most circles, there's enough of oral
- 28:42Speaker 3: tradition from his family and so forth, people who because
- 28:46Speaker 3: you know, nineteen fifteen wasn't that long ago, really wasn't.
- 28:52Speaker 3: And so there's still enough of current oral tradition in
- 28:57Speaker 3: the family to be able to find out from their
- 29:01Speaker 3: side what they know about John's predictions and John's life
- 29:08Speaker 3: and so forth, and get an idea of him. And actually,
- 29:12Speaker 3: everything that I'm finding so far is very impressive. He
- 29:19Speaker 3: even like you got to understand the only planes that
- 29:22Speaker 3: were in existence at the time of John's existence were
- 29:29Speaker 3: made of wood and fabric. He talked about going like
- 29:34Speaker 3: visiting the city in a metal craft that had a
- 29:39Speaker 3: two hundred and something foot wingspan, before there was a
- 29:45Speaker 3: build anything built like that.
- 29:48Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the Wright brothers were only what in
- 29:50Speaker 2: fifteen was that the eight years earlier before his passing,
- 29:54Speaker 2: So I mean for him to even say that is
- 29:56Speaker 2: a it's quite interesting. I mean, there was a there's
- 29:59Speaker 2: actually quite a few people who said things like that,
- 30:02Speaker 2: But we do have to be honest. You know, you
- 30:04Speaker 2: throw a lot of spaghetti against the wall, some it's
- 30:06Speaker 2: going to stick, but sometimes it's so spot on that
- 30:11Speaker 2: it's a bit of nerving, if you know what I mean.
- 30:14Speaker 3: Right right, And several of his things were very spot on,
- 30:18Speaker 3: and that's what that's why I'm a little mystified by
- 30:22Speaker 3: why his story has been swept under the rug so much.
- 30:27Speaker 3: And then there's the misconception that you y twelve, you
- 30:33Speaker 3: don't want to mess with that, you don't there's you know,
- 30:37Speaker 3: all that stuff is super secret, and they're right to
- 30:40Speaker 3: a point, but there's a lot of public information out
- 30:43Speaker 3: there there's actually places where you can go near the
- 30:49Speaker 3: Y twelve facility that is a museum for the Y twelve. Uh,
- 30:55Speaker 3: there's a museum area for the K twenty five building,
- 30:59Speaker 3: you know, which was part of that complex at one time.
- 31:02Speaker 3: There's all of this public information out there, public knowledge
- 31:07Speaker 3: about Oakridge and about the secret city, you know, and
- 31:12Speaker 3: so people are even avoiding that because they have this
- 31:16Speaker 3: fear that this is something too big to touch. But
- 31:21Speaker 3: in reality, if it's public information, what are they going
- 31:26Speaker 3: to do? I mean, you can literally go to the
- 31:29Speaker 3: local library there and find out a lot of stuff.
- 31:32Speaker 3: There's three museums there that has a lot of information
- 31:36Speaker 3: about the backstory of the area, the people, the complex.
- 31:43Speaker 3: There's several things. I mean, if you want to find
- 31:48Speaker 3: the non paranormal stuff, you can find it very easily.
- 31:53Speaker 3: And you know, and I'm sure that people are leary.
- 32:01Speaker 3: I mean, you go there, you talk to the locals,
- 32:05Speaker 3: they'll tell you on our beat, you know, we don't
- 32:08Speaker 3: talk about that here.
- 32:11Speaker 2: Oh that's interesting though, that's very interesting. Yeah, Well, the war,
- 32:15Speaker 2: the war that, the war that will How did you say,
- 32:20Speaker 2: the war of mankind? How did you warn it? It was?
- 32:24Speaker 3: He said? And this is this. This was his words himself,
- 32:29Speaker 3: the greatest war that would ever be.
- 32:32Speaker 2: Wow, and we're involved in it right now.
- 32:34Speaker 3: Basically, well he was, he was talking about World War two.
- 32:43Speaker 2: That's what you think it is. I thought something completely different, buddy, Well.
- 32:47Speaker 3: Yeah, because he no, he was talking about World War
- 32:51Speaker 3: two at the time, because he said that they would
- 32:55Speaker 3: that they would invent the the the thing that would
- 33:02Speaker 3: be the end of the greatest war. Oh okay, which
- 33:07Speaker 3: and the context of the way he put it, would
- 33:11Speaker 3: be World War two. Now, whatever we're involved with now.
- 33:16Speaker 2: Is that's the one I'm thinking of. I'm not even
- 33:19Speaker 2: thinking I'm thinking not, let's go ahead and say it.
- 33:23Speaker 2: I'm thinking more of that like that, you know, the
- 33:26Speaker 2: Project high Jump. I just recently learned that Jimmy Carter
- 33:32Speaker 2: had an event that happened to him back in sixty
- 33:34Speaker 2: nine when he was a kid, and this is that
- 33:37Speaker 2: supposedly is real. But then the second hand information, possibly
- 33:42Speaker 2: during that information of when he was briefed when he
- 33:45Speaker 2: became a president in the seventies, that it actually the
- 33:48Speaker 2: information that he got brought him to tears and it
- 33:51Speaker 2: made him cry. So I'm talking about that kind of stuff.
- 33:56Speaker 2: That's what I thought, because it seems to be I'm sorry,
- 34:00Speaker 2: it seems to be, Yeah, do worries, buddy, they don't
- 34:03Speaker 2: know that you and I know each other and that
- 34:04Speaker 2: we're like best friends of shit. But we're doing a
- 34:07Speaker 2: show here, guys. I love break the fourth wall. Break it.
- 34:12Speaker 2: What I'm saying, it's like it's well like, well, not
- 34:15Speaker 2: well known, but it's at least known that there's these
- 34:20Speaker 2: incidents that have happened where where you know that there's
- 34:26Speaker 2: you know, maybe possibly twenty seven different type entities that
- 34:29Speaker 2: have been visiting, that they know what we're doing and
- 34:33Speaker 2: that we know what they're doing, and they kind of said,
- 34:35Speaker 2: you know, you need to keep this on the hush hush,
- 34:37Speaker 2: and that we're being protected by the powers that be,
- 34:40Speaker 2: that there's actual secret you know, I would you say,
- 34:45Speaker 2: levels of secrecy that beyond even the president, And that's
- 34:50Speaker 2: what I thought, you know, but if you're talking about
- 34:52Speaker 2: World War Two, that makes a lot of sense as well.
- 34:56Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And that's essentially what he was referring to,
- 35:00Speaker 3: because it was it was at that facility that you know,
- 35:05Speaker 3: everything came together for you know, the two big bombs,
- 35:11Speaker 3: and that was the end of the Great War of
- 35:16Speaker 3: that time period, right, Okay, all right, so you know,
- 35:21Speaker 3: and what we're seeing now is is you know, I
- 35:25Speaker 3: don't even want to get into the speculation of that,
- 35:27Speaker 3: because honestly, I have put everything that I used to
- 35:33Speaker 3: know or anything conspiratorial that I've thought about or or
- 35:40Speaker 3: kind of subscribe to at one point in the open
- 35:43Speaker 3: case file right now and starting all over again, because again,
- 35:51Speaker 3: there's a lot of sensationalism. There's a lot of things
- 35:55Speaker 3: that I believe that has gotten very conspiratory and twisted
- 36:01Speaker 3: that probably we're right. There's a lot of podcasts out
- 36:07Speaker 3: there that's writing on this wave right now, you know,
- 36:13Speaker 3: and you know, and and a lot of you know,
- 36:16Speaker 3: television shows and documentaries and other things that's kind of
- 36:20Speaker 3: promoting a lot of things that we that are all speculation.
- 36:26Speaker 3: But we're not trying to deep dive into it. We're
- 36:29Speaker 3: not trying to to start to sort out the bullshit basically,
- 36:35Speaker 3: if you will, from from the truth. And I think
- 36:39Speaker 3: I think starting with some of the stuff, like I said,
- 36:43Speaker 3: for instance, John Hendricks, a big part of the story
- 36:48Speaker 3: of oakrage, you know, and also consider it a paranormal event.
- 36:53Speaker 3: If what he what happened with him was was actual prophecy,
- 36:58Speaker 3: then it would be a paranormal supernatural event. And I
- 37:02Speaker 3: think we need to be able to accept the fact
- 37:07Speaker 3: that learning to dig into these things and not just believing.
- 37:12Speaker 3: Because several experienced you know, professionals or people who are
- 37:19Speaker 3: are you know, people who and some of these people
- 37:25Speaker 3: I've had on my podcast in the last year or
- 37:27Speaker 3: two that are the celebrities, if you will, of the
- 37:35Speaker 3: paranormal community. You are they? Are they going in the
- 37:40Speaker 3: right direction? Are they kind of are they part of
- 37:44Speaker 3: the problem? I mean, that's what we have to ask ourselves.
- 37:47Speaker 3: We need to sift through to find out who's real
- 37:50Speaker 3: and who's playing the game with us. And I think
- 37:56Speaker 3: in the I think in the community right now, there's
- 37:59Speaker 3: there's a good chunk of both.
- 38:03Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard, it's hard to delineate sometimes you know,
- 38:06Speaker 2: there's there's we we live in a world and you're
- 38:10Speaker 2: you and I are both part of this world. Where
- 38:12Speaker 2: like when you're trying to get people to watch your channels,
- 38:14Speaker 2: So when you're trying to get people to watch your channel,
- 38:16Speaker 2: because it is you know a lot of people, it's
- 38:19Speaker 2: uh not about the truth. Some people, it is about
- 38:22Speaker 2: the truth and the monetization, and some people it's only
- 38:25Speaker 2: about the monetization or the monetary aspects thereof So of
- 38:29Speaker 2: course there's going to be you know, fantastical things said
- 38:32Speaker 2: to get people to look at it. I mean, if
- 38:34Speaker 2: you look at any your Facebook feeds, no matter my
- 38:37Speaker 2: Facebook feed doesn't know what to do. Mine is between
- 38:41Speaker 2: like welding and goblins. You know, it's in their somewhere,
- 38:45Speaker 2: and you'll see a lot of things where it's like, oh,
- 38:47Speaker 2: did you see that Mandani said this? Oh my god,
- 38:50Speaker 2: he's a he's a this and he's that, and you're like, wow,
- 38:53Speaker 2: I don't agree with a lot of his policies, but
- 38:55Speaker 2: I don't think he said that. And if you actually
- 38:57Speaker 2: look it up, it'll see that it's not. So everyone
- 39:00Speaker 2: knows that we are now involved in this world which
- 39:04Speaker 2: and where we can't find any information. We are drowning
- 39:09Speaker 2: in misinformation because of this weird time plus clicks equals money.
- 39:16Speaker 2: So therefore there's going to be a lot of this,
- 39:18Speaker 2: you know, as you were saying, sensationalism, and anybody like
- 39:22Speaker 2: yourself or others, you know, Austin, you know, being one
- 39:25Speaker 2: of those I always want to say, Austin powers or Texas,
- 39:29Speaker 2: but I remember his name one of these days, Austin
- 39:32Speaker 2: Reeves basketball player. You know, you know, when you are
- 39:39Speaker 2: a person who says, you know, I want to look
- 39:41Speaker 2: at these things through the lens of let's really try
- 39:45Speaker 2: to know what we can know about, you know, red
- 39:48Speaker 2: carpet and fireworks and pretty colors and lights and scaring
- 39:52Speaker 2: and all that stuff. It kind of gets pushed down
- 39:55Speaker 2: in the algorithm because it's not something people click on,
- 40:00Speaker 2: and we're all kind of guilty we want to get
- 40:01Speaker 2: people to click on it. But I always try to
- 40:03Speaker 2: make it where it's like, look, you know, you'll have
- 40:06Speaker 2: some people who will come on and there's no through line.
- 40:09Speaker 2: You know, like right today, you know we're lucky. Is
- 40:11Speaker 2: it through through line? I'm I'm probably gonna name like,
- 40:14Speaker 2: you know, the Prophecy, the Prophecies of Oakridge, you know,
- 40:17Speaker 2: something like that, something cool where you can kind of
- 40:20Speaker 2: look at it and then actually in the description talk
- 40:23Speaker 2: about what it's going to be about. But then there's
- 40:25Speaker 2: ones where they're you know, they're all over the place
- 40:28Speaker 2: because they really have a lot of information, have had
- 40:31Speaker 2: a lot of experiences, and you're just like, oh, man,
- 40:34Speaker 2: I wish you could take one of these and just
- 40:36Speaker 2: turn this part into an episode. And then there's ones
- 40:39Speaker 2: that there's not much there, so you kind of have
- 40:42Speaker 2: to and I just let those go. I just kind
- 40:45Speaker 2: of let this go, like you know, this is you know,
- 40:47Speaker 2: this is you know, is Cain the first vampire. I've
- 40:51Speaker 2: never heard it before, but other people are I've heard
- 40:53Speaker 2: this before, boring, Like, I don't know, I've never heard
- 40:55Speaker 2: this before. This is new for me. But like I'm like,
- 40:59Speaker 2: I'm saying, it's it's it's it's a tricky thing to do,
- 41:01Speaker 2: and you know, just call people out. You kind of
- 41:05Speaker 2: have to. It's you have to tread some water. Be
- 41:08Speaker 2: open because sometimes if you keep the doors open, other
- 41:12Speaker 2: good things will come in, and if you shut the door,
- 41:16Speaker 2: then you never know what you might miss. So I
- 41:19Speaker 2: don't want to shut the door. I'd rather just kind
- 41:20Speaker 2: of do my very best and vet the people. But yeah,
- 41:24Speaker 2: that's someone like yourself. I know you're not going to
- 41:26Speaker 2: be s me, dude. So that's what we're coming to see.
- 41:30Speaker 2: Before we go to the father man, let's go ahead
- 41:31Speaker 2: and promote you shure real quick. What is it called,
- 41:34Speaker 2: what time is it on? And what can we expect
- 41:36Speaker 2: from the show Man.
- 41:37Speaker 3: So the show now is back with signal and is
- 41:43Speaker 3: on a new day. New time is Saturday at seven
- 41:47Speaker 3: pm Central time. I'd take that mostly because, well because
- 41:53Speaker 3: a lot of my my folks that watch the show
- 41:56Speaker 3: statistically are men between the ages of thirty four to
- 42:02Speaker 3: fifty four, and apparently Saturday night is their time where
- 42:05Speaker 3: they kind of wind down and start scrolling to look
- 42:10Speaker 3: for things to watch. So according to that.
- 42:15Speaker 2: Trying to reach your audience, I got your man.
- 42:16Speaker 3: Yeah, perfect time, according to according to all that. So
- 42:22Speaker 3: the thing with Backwood Signal is it's it's not it magical.
- 42:30Speaker 3: Journey didn't really end, it transcended, and all of this
- 42:35Speaker 3: time the journey was kind of going by foot and
- 42:43Speaker 3: we were hearing something in the background, by everything, all
- 42:46Speaker 3: the all the stuff. I was always hearing something in
- 42:49Speaker 3: the background, you know, something that was that was catching
- 42:52Speaker 3: my attention, you know, because it was there, but I
- 42:55Speaker 3: couldn't quite figure out what it was I was really hearing.
- 43:00Speaker 3: And then it finally occurred to me, like, all around
- 43:04Speaker 3: us is the signal? All around us is that thing
- 43:09Speaker 3: that is you along your journey. It's there. You hear it,
- 43:15Speaker 3: you hear the static, you hear the noise, and with
- 43:19Speaker 3: Backwoods Signal, we're actually starting to we're transcending the magical
- 43:25Speaker 3: journey and going into investigating what's between the static, what's
- 43:30Speaker 3: the noise, what are the things? What is what's out
- 43:33Speaker 3: there that's broadcasting and trying to transmit to us in
- 43:37Speaker 3: the backwoods area, especially behind the tree line.
- 43:41Speaker 2: Yes, sir, especially being in like Tennessee. I know since
- 43:44Speaker 2: you're you know, you're from there, and I've known at
- 43:47Speaker 2: least for the last six months or a year. You
- 43:49Speaker 2: kept going, man, what is what is? And I've noticed
- 43:52Speaker 2: that too. You remember when I first started out, you
- 43:54Speaker 2: started watching me. I kept getting all these people from
- 43:56Speaker 2: Tennessee going and it's and then I got yeah, and
- 43:59Speaker 2: you were one of them, right, And then I had
- 44:02Speaker 2: you one. We started talking about you know, rocks and
- 44:04Speaker 2: crystals and uh, you know, witchcraft and things that you
- 44:08Speaker 2: you know that you delved into a little bit and
- 44:10Speaker 2: learned know a little bit about that have enriched your
- 44:12Speaker 2: life and things. But it kept us time and time
- 44:15Speaker 2: again this Tennessee, whether it's the LBL, whether it's the
- 44:20Speaker 2: smoking mountains and the Sasquatch activity out there, all the
- 44:25Speaker 2: haunting areas, it's just uh, you just you're it's interesting
- 44:29Speaker 2: that your uh, you know, the things you enjoy in
- 44:32Speaker 2: life seem to coincide with where you're actually from. And
- 44:36Speaker 2: I think that the new name and the branding is
- 44:40Speaker 2: is a wonderful thing and it's actually very fitting. So congratulations,
- 44:44Speaker 2: see you, buddy.
- 44:45Speaker 3: Thank you well. And to be honest with you, if
- 44:47Speaker 3: you look at it from from a standpoint of trying
- 44:52Speaker 3: to reason it out, you've got the thirty third parallel
- 44:58Speaker 3: runs somewhere not too terribly far from North Alabama. It's
- 45:04Speaker 3: like Huntsville is about one hundred and nine miles north
- 45:08Speaker 3: of the thirty third parallel. So you've got the thirty
- 45:12Speaker 3: third parallel below us, You've got the thirty seventh parallel
- 45:17Speaker 3: that is above us. So all of this area is
- 45:23Speaker 3: considered kind of the paranormal Highway by a lot of people.
- 45:28Speaker 3: Especially the thirty seventh parallel is literally considered that they'd
- 45:32Speaker 3: call it the parallel the paranormal Highway. So you've got
- 45:38Speaker 3: this area that's between the two major parallels that seem
- 45:43Speaker 3: to attract a lot of weirdness. You've also got a
- 45:49Speaker 3: situation where you've got Mount Shasta Sedona, both high very
- 45:55Speaker 3: strong vortex areas. And then you've got our area here
- 46:03Speaker 3: close by here, which is the Asheville area, which is
- 46:08Speaker 3: also a very strong vortex area. When you look at
- 46:12Speaker 3: these three spots on the map, they start to form
- 46:16Speaker 3: a triangle. So I refer to that as the vortex
- 46:21Speaker 3: triangle because that's exactly what it is. If you if
- 46:25Speaker 3: you stand somewhere in any of these areas of the
- 46:30Speaker 3: vortex power sources, you know that there's some energy there.
- 46:34Speaker 3: You know there's something going on. At the very top
- 46:38Speaker 3: of that triangle is Asheville.
- 46:41Speaker 2: Not to mention, dude, you got all the mounds building
- 46:44Speaker 2: in eastern Tennessee along. The people don't realize is that
- 46:48Speaker 2: they think when it comes to pyramids and things like that,
- 46:50Speaker 2: that you know, you have Egypt, the Courus, and you
- 46:53Speaker 2: have you know, uh Pendic Pondan, whatever the hell the
- 46:56Speaker 2: name of that one is in Indonesia, which is ridiculous.
- 46:59Speaker 2: But they don't you ever think about North America. You know,
- 47:03Speaker 2: they'll think about, of course, like where I am, where
- 47:05Speaker 2: it's you know, the Mayans and the Aztecs and the Olmes,
- 47:07Speaker 2: which are just fascinating. But in the whole Mississippi River Valley,
- 47:15Speaker 2: uh there is a whole bunch of mounds that were
- 47:18Speaker 2: intentionally covered up. You know, you're not that far from
- 47:21Speaker 2: Ohio with this, with the with the what the what
- 47:23Speaker 2: was it called the snake? Was like, what's the name
- 47:25Speaker 2: of that one again, buddy, probably the snake? Whatever that
- 47:27Speaker 2: one is. Serpent mound, Serpent mound, thank you? Yeah, well together,
- 47:35Speaker 2: you got mound, we got snake. But as serpent, there
- 47:38Speaker 2: we go. We'll get there. Uh. And but I've been
- 47:40Speaker 2: watching I was watching I can't remember. I think it
- 47:42Speaker 2: was uh, not Graham Hancock, but the other gentleman, Renal Carlson,
- 47:46Speaker 2: and he was showing about all these mound building you know,
- 47:49Speaker 2: people native people, and there is so much that I
- 47:53Speaker 2: didn't even know about. Then you have that in eastern
- 47:56Speaker 2: Tennessee and the north. You have you have the you
- 48:00Speaker 2: have the witch, the Bell Witch, which is in the
- 48:03Speaker 2: Clarksville or clark something right.
- 48:05Speaker 3: It's in Adams County there.
- 48:07Speaker 2: Adams County, Okay, thank you. Then you have over there
- 48:11Speaker 2: you have the LBL. Then you have the parallel, the
- 48:13Speaker 2: thirty third down there at the bottom. And then you
- 48:15Speaker 2: go to eastern Tennessee. I've heard so many things about
- 48:18Speaker 2: the Smoky mountains and how it's so still unexplored. Basically,
- 48:24Speaker 2: I'm oddly enough so unexplored. You know, I've heard stories
- 48:29Speaker 2: of just the most insane things. We know a lot
- 48:31Speaker 2: of you know, bigfoot people in the community who are like,
- 48:34Speaker 2: who swear by this area? And then you're just right
- 48:36Speaker 2: in the middle. It's a it's a huge watershed, and
- 48:40Speaker 2: we know the connection with water. There's something with water.
- 48:44Speaker 2: It's just right there, and you find yourself smack in
- 48:47Speaker 2: the middle of it, and then you go, yeah, dude,
- 48:49Speaker 2: I'm from Appalachia. Backwood signal. Brilliant when you put it
- 48:53Speaker 2: on the when you put it on the thing which
- 48:55Speaker 2: went on Facebook. I'm sorry to someone who keeps saying
- 48:57Speaker 2: I cut off my people. You know, whoever you are,
- 48:59Speaker 2: go ahead and start your own podcast. Okay, uh seriously,
- 49:04Speaker 2: if you can do better, please do me a favor
- 49:06Speaker 2: and start your own show and I'll watch it. What
- 49:10Speaker 2: was it when you first put it on Facebook? No
- 49:12Speaker 2: longer now working a Backwood signal? I was like, damn,
- 49:15Speaker 2: was he working for like a cell phone company now
- 49:17Speaker 2: or something? I was like, what is that? Actually wrote
- 49:19Speaker 2: what's that? And then later I see it no longer
- 49:23Speaker 2: works at I was like, oh, okay, I got it. Yeah, sorry, man,
- 49:28Speaker 2: it was just funny, little, a little to do there.
- 49:34Speaker 3: Continue this area though, there's right this this area. There's
- 49:42Speaker 3: a lot going on here as far as as that
- 49:46Speaker 3: particular thing goes. Is interesting. You mentioned Ohio because what
- 49:50Speaker 3: I call now a call. I've got four zones I've
- 49:54Speaker 3: broke up the country into right now, possibly a fifth
- 49:58Speaker 3: one that I'll be working on. This is I call
- 50:04Speaker 3: this Zone one, which starts with Ohio, goes down to
- 50:09Speaker 3: West Virginia, North and South Carolina. Virginia itself could possibly
- 50:16Speaker 3: fit in there. Georgia, North Georgia, North Alabama, Tennessee, and Kentucky.
- 50:23Speaker 3: Those are all in zone what I call Zone one,
- 50:27Speaker 3: and Zone one in particular is important because not only
- 50:33Speaker 3: is it between the two parallels there, but it's also
- 50:38Speaker 3: right falls. You've got Ashville falling right in there, the
- 50:44Speaker 3: crown of the Pentacle, or not the pentacle, but the triangle,
- 50:49Speaker 3: the vortex triangle. There's a reason why Ashville is very
- 50:56Speaker 3: compelling to people, and it's set in there. Now, let's
- 51:02Speaker 3: talk about a little bit about the more tangible stuff. Okay,
- 51:12Speaker 3: So this area is really high and tense with quartz crystal. Uh,
- 51:20Speaker 3: you've got calcite is here. Different types of opals can
- 51:26Speaker 3: be found here. Ah, iron obviously one of the l
- 51:32Speaker 3: b L it was, it was actually iron and humantite
- 51:37Speaker 3: was was part of the mining process there in the
- 51:41Speaker 3: l b L at one time. There's several different and
- 51:46Speaker 3: gold is found in this area. Uh, there's also uh
- 51:55Speaker 3: right there where where Asheville is. Uh, there's another and
- 52:00Speaker 3: it totally is dropping in my mind right now where
- 52:03Speaker 3: what it is Lithium. I think lithium is the Yeah,
- 52:16Speaker 3: I think that is one of the things that is
- 52:18Speaker 3: over there in that area. So there's there's a lot
- 52:21Speaker 3: of stuff mineral right wise in these areas. Of course,
- 52:25Speaker 3: a lot of the podcasters and the researchers and investigators
- 52:30Speaker 3: talk about the high concentration of crystal because quartz crystal
- 52:36Speaker 3: is kind of the king of crystals. It's is definitely
- 52:42Speaker 3: used for its electrical energy and so forth, like that
- 52:46Speaker 3: is a conductor. It's a lot of things, so that's
- 52:50Speaker 3: definitely at the top of their list.
- 52:53Speaker 4: Uh.
- 52:53Speaker 3: Amethyst is also something that that's found in some areas
- 52:57Speaker 3: around here, which is kind of a byproduct of courts
- 53:01Speaker 3: and I'm quite sure smokey courts can be added into that.
- 53:05Speaker 3: So a lot of the crystal family can be found
- 53:11Speaker 3: in these areas. Of course, Tennessee, West Tennessee, East Tennessee,
- 53:20Speaker 3: all of Tennessee is just water ways, lots of water
- 53:23Speaker 3: found here. When you get into this area, you've got
- 53:26Speaker 3: a lot of from central Tennessee all the way into
- 53:30Speaker 3: to eastern Tennessee. Obviously you've got a lot of wooden area,
- 53:35Speaker 3: a lot of trees, a lot of mountains, so earthy,
- 53:39Speaker 3: it's very earthy, it's very organic. There's a lot here
- 53:46Speaker 3: when it comes to that, you know. And of course
- 53:50Speaker 3: the Smoky Mountains is notorious for strange, strange clown formations
- 53:57Speaker 3: and so forth, because between the mountains themselves, the way
- 54:03Speaker 3: that the wind shifts there, the weather patterns and so forth,
- 54:06Speaker 3: it just creates some crazy phenomena. And the sky is
- 54:10Speaker 3: there from time to time. So you've got a lot
- 54:13Speaker 3: of things going on there that just come together and
- 54:19Speaker 3: seem to form a perfect storm of an area that
- 54:23Speaker 3: if you were going to say these are the things
- 54:26Speaker 3: that you tangibly can look at and say, high strangeness
- 54:30Speaker 3: could be a possibility for this area you've got. You've
- 54:34Speaker 3: got all of this going on there. You know, location, location, location.
- 54:40Speaker 2: So that paranormal real estate, that's what you that's your
- 54:43Speaker 2: next that's what you need when once you're done with
- 54:45Speaker 2: you know, whatever you're doing, like you know, work wise,
- 54:47Speaker 2: you can become hi. I'm Daniel ian Huna, I am
- 54:50Speaker 2: a real estate at you're from the paranormal real estate.
- 54:53Speaker 2: It's about location. Location. Look, here's a here's here's a
- 54:56Speaker 2: nice little haunted house right here if you want to
- 54:58Speaker 2: go in and check it out right right.
- 55:02Speaker 3: And you know, that's one of the things too that
- 55:04Speaker 3: I think is very important for us to understand. Like
- 55:06Speaker 3: when it comes to to the I don't even want
- 55:10Speaker 3: to call it a rebranding. I think it's it's more
- 55:13Speaker 3: of a transcending than a rebranding. Like I said before,
- 55:17Speaker 3: But when it comes to this, one of the things
- 55:19Speaker 3: I really want to want to bring to the forefront
- 55:23Speaker 3: is true haunting versus sensationalized haunting. Okay, fair enough, again,
- 55:31Speaker 3: I want to I want to make sure that whatever
- 55:34Speaker 3: we whatever, our final answer is on something, if we
- 55:38Speaker 3: reach a final conclusion, there's a conclusion based on fact.
- 55:44Speaker 3: You know, it's a conclusion based on what our fundings are.
- 55:49Speaker 3: You know, not a story about jump scarers and.
- 55:55Speaker 2: You yeah, like you know, credible eye witnesses, multiple eye witnesses,
- 56:02Speaker 2: you know, accounts that have been written down by local
- 56:05Speaker 2: law offices, newspaper clippings, things from the past where it's
- 56:09Speaker 2: not like, you know, this is ai where you can
- 56:12Speaker 2: kind of really sink your teeth into it and like
- 56:14Speaker 2: kind of pull it out, you know, look at it
- 56:17Speaker 2: and say, you know, the probability of this being something
- 56:21Speaker 2: worth like really talking about is higher than you know,
- 56:26Speaker 2: like you were saying, I love the way you put
- 56:27Speaker 2: that in the jump scare effect. I think that's It's cool, man,
- 56:30Speaker 2: it's cool. I like you. So you're gonna be like
- 56:33Speaker 2: like the Tennessee paranormal guy. I'm digging it, kay, go
- 56:36Speaker 2: ahead and pull me along. I'm gonna be with you.
- 56:38Speaker 2: I'm gonna be with you. I'm gonna be the Yucatan
- 56:40Speaker 2: paranormal guy and you'll be the Tennessee guy and scary stories. Bro,
- 56:46Speaker 2: I got some.
- 56:49Speaker 3: Well, and that's it. That's the thing is, like, there's
- 56:51Speaker 3: there's enough of stuff that is real and strange here
- 56:57Speaker 3: that we don't have to make up things fair enough, dude,
- 57:00Speaker 3: you know, we really don't and you know, and the
- 57:03Speaker 3: types of things that are here. You know, we don't
- 57:09Speaker 3: I tell people all the time. Now I'm done trying
- 57:12Speaker 3: to prove the existence of Bigfoot. I thoroughly believe that
- 57:16Speaker 3: that there is something out there that people call bigfoot.
- 57:24Speaker 3: It's no longer does it exist. Now we need to
- 57:28Speaker 3: answer the questions what are they? What are how they
- 57:32Speaker 3: how do they exist? What are what is their purpose?
- 57:36Speaker 3: We need to start asking the questions about who and what,
- 57:40Speaker 3: where and why.
- 57:41Speaker 2: Yeah, we kind of also know how they communicate a
- 57:43Speaker 2: little bit, you know, but it's kind of hard to
- 57:46Speaker 2: delineate or to understand exactly what is being said and
- 57:52Speaker 2: why they're saying it. And that I think that's the
- 57:54Speaker 2: next thing that's kind of the next domino to fallenness.
- 57:58Speaker 2: It is to kind of understand what it is they're saying,
- 58:00Speaker 2: because you've heard a lot of these, you know, I've
- 58:02Speaker 2: had on many you know, Native American medicine women too,
- 58:05Speaker 2: to be honest with you, and they're like, yeah, they speak,
- 58:09Speaker 2: like if you listen to them talk, especially if you
- 58:11Speaker 2: listen to Samurai chatter was what they call it, which
- 58:13Speaker 2: I think is not a very apt description. I got
- 58:17Speaker 2: coined somewhere along the line as samurai chatter. If you
- 58:20Speaker 2: listen to it, like de Ron moorehead recordings, you'll you
- 58:23Speaker 2: if you listen to any say north like you know,
- 58:28Speaker 2: Northwest part of America, Canada, United States, and you listen
- 58:32Speaker 2: to the native tribes people speak their native tongue, you'll
- 58:36Speaker 2: see a lot of similarities in that too, And that
- 58:38Speaker 2: is really intriguing me, you know, dag Man, Yeah, there's
- 58:42Speaker 2: you know, I'm fifty one percent on the yes, but Bigfoot,
- 58:46Speaker 2: I'm a good eighty five percent on the yes. It's
- 58:48Speaker 2: just it's just too many, too many instances. I mean,
- 58:53Speaker 2: if you were to just look at a statistically like
- 58:56Speaker 2: I always says, like I always say, is like if
- 58:59Speaker 2: it's it's a lot more than a thousand reports in
- 59:02Speaker 2: the last ten year, Let's say there's someone's around five
- 59:04Speaker 2: thousand reports, and that's lowballing it for sure. And then
- 59:07Speaker 2: there's of course the unreported's still that we're trying to
- 59:10Speaker 2: fitch out of the woodworks to kind of pieces puzzle together.
- 59:14Speaker 2: If statistically speaking, what is the likely possibility of all
- 59:18Speaker 2: of those being fabrications? So that if that is our
- 59:24Speaker 2: jumping off point, then you have to say, well, at
- 59:27Speaker 2: least one of those is real, and that's very low.
- 59:31Speaker 2: Then you would have to come to some type of
- 59:34Speaker 2: realization that people are seeing something whatever you want to
- 59:36Speaker 2: call it. There's something happening out there. And you and
- 59:39Speaker 2: I have run we know a lot of these people there,
- 59:42Speaker 2: close friends. Now there's people that we know who've actually
- 59:46Speaker 2: gone out and seen them and then you know, recorded
- 59:48Speaker 2: them and weird things. And You're just like, this is
- 59:52Speaker 2: is completely and utterly fascinating. And I'm just so happy
- 59:56Speaker 2: to have someone like you that I can depend upon
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: to kind of base me sometimes. You know, Hey, Tom,
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: what are you doing? Bud? Okay, I'm with you, dude,
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: all right, you know, and it's uh the journey is together, man,
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: and it's always going to be that way no matter what. Dude. Like, Uh,
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: you're a good person, man, and in any way I
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: can help, you can always you know that you can
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: always contact me and uh we'll get you. We'll get
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: your name out there with my little limited reach that
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: I have, and uh, just do this together, you know
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: what I mean. It's because it's it's it's interesting and
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: interests are always fun, even if they're scary. I know
- 1:00:33Speaker 2: you're going to be doing some more investigations. You have
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: some paranormal things coming up. You're gonna be doing, Austin,
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: that's awesome. I don't want to go ahead and jump
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: the shark. I don't know what it is. You just
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: kind of told me. I don't want to, like, you know,
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: go into the greenroom there too much and bring anything up.
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: But like always there anything you ever need bounce ideas
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: back and forth. Uh, you know, you can always contact me, you.
- 1:00:55Speaker 3: Know that, definitely. I appreciate that. In the same here,
- 1:00:59Speaker 3: I do want to I do want to throw out
- 1:01:02Speaker 3: there the week and I'm working with Austin on that
- 1:01:07Speaker 3: particular and that will be actually his last investigation for
- 1:01:13Speaker 3: this season, his last season of his show. I'm doing
- 1:01:18Speaker 3: a pre recorded that week that's kind of a big
- 1:01:23Speaker 3: deal and it will air that night, and then after
- 1:01:31Speaker 3: that I may go live at some point during the investigation's.
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: Supposed to happen, Buddy, when's it supposed to happen?
- 1:01:37Speaker 3: So this is that investigation is July the eighteenth, So
- 1:01:46Speaker 3: July the eighteenth, I will be having someone come on.
- 1:01:53Speaker 3: As some of you know, if you've been following me
- 1:01:56Speaker 3: for a while, I was going through this period where
- 1:02:00Speaker 3: I was trying to find exorcist and people who work
- 1:02:06Speaker 3: with spiritual warfare on the show, and I finally got
- 1:02:11Speaker 3: two of them to agree to come on the show.
- 1:02:15Speaker 3: One of them just put out a book called The
- 1:02:19Speaker 3: Art of the Battle, and that is this Friar Bob
- 1:02:25Speaker 3: Bob Bailey. You may you may remember hearing that name
- 1:02:31Speaker 3: associated with Nestor the Northeast. I always forget the whole
- 1:02:40Speaker 3: what the acronym actually means. The original organization started by
- 1:02:48Speaker 3: the Warren. So he is he is still connected with Nestor,
- 1:02:56Speaker 3: and he agreed to come on my show. I had
- 1:02:59Speaker 3: to reschedule to do a record instead of a live
- 1:03:04Speaker 3: because we're doing the thing that night too, and he
- 1:03:08Speaker 3: was he was very excited about doing the show with me.
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: So when are you going to do the live? Man?
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: Because I'm asking because that way people can see this
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: as a preface to your live and maybe some people
- 1:03:21Speaker 2: can actually go into your channel.
- 1:03:23Speaker 3: So my current, of course, I won't know until actually there.
- 1:03:29Speaker 3: Right my current plan is that the pre record will
- 1:03:35Speaker 3: start at seven o'clock Central time and go to eight ish.
- 1:03:41Speaker 3: I'm going to try not to make it over an hour, and.
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: It's the eighteenth, correct, Yes, okay, then we'll be released
- 1:03:49Speaker 2: that day.
- 1:03:50Speaker 3: Yes, that will go on as a premiere that day.
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to release this one on the fourteenth.
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: That way, it gives people a little bit that way,
- 1:04:01Speaker 2: you get what I'm saying, because I'll just move you
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: forward in the thing and my release dates. Yeah, dude, dude,
- 1:04:08Speaker 2: come on. Uh. And the one that I've already have
- 1:04:10Speaker 2: in the in the bank, I'll just bump him back
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: one month, one week. It's not a big deal. That way.
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: People can actually line up over there. So please go
- 1:04:19Speaker 2: ahead and tell everybody when they will see this again
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: the eighteenth. What's the name of your channel? And when
- 1:04:25Speaker 2: will it be released?
- 1:04:26Speaker 3: Man, So we're talking. The pre record will be dropped
- 1:04:31Speaker 3: on at seven o'clock Central time on July eighteenth, that
- 1:04:37Speaker 3: is with Father Bob Bailey. There's the potential then for
- 1:04:46Speaker 3: right after that ends to be able to go live
- 1:04:50Speaker 3: during the investigation and red boiling springs. So if if
- 1:04:57Speaker 3: because there's several groups that are made making one big
- 1:05:00Speaker 3: group out of this, if that plays out, then I
- 1:05:04Speaker 3: should go live right after that. If not, it'll be unfortunately,
- 1:05:09Speaker 3: it'll be some time later in the evening, but hit
- 1:05:13Speaker 3: that like bel on my channel. Yeah, and you'll get
- 1:05:18Speaker 3: a notification right away, all.
- 1:05:21Speaker 2: Right, man, So man, go guys, go and do that.
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: Go over and check it out. It is called Backwood Signal.
- 1:05:27Speaker 2: You can find it all links in the description below.
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: Go over like subscribed, like the subscribed to the channel.
- 1:05:34Speaker 2: And this will be released on the fourteenth, So I'm
- 1:05:37Speaker 2: saying it to the people who are now seeing it
- 1:05:38Speaker 2: on the fourteenth and go over, you know, four days later.
- 1:05:42Speaker 2: So there's a Tuesday. That'll be Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. It's
- 1:05:47Speaker 2: a Saturday, correct, yes, so you're seeing this now on Tuesday.
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: I'll be dropping this in the morning on Tuesday. So
- 1:05:54Speaker 2: on the eighteenth you can go over and check out
- 1:05:56Speaker 2: that pre record and hopefully we get to see Daniel
- 1:05:58Speaker 2: out there with a good friend of ours, Austin Lauren's
- 1:06:00Speaker 2: from the Dead Chronicles, his last thing that he's going
- 1:06:03Speaker 2: to be doing before jump into the big project. Daniel,
- 1:06:06Speaker 2: It's been a pleasure, as always, my friend. I thank
- 1:06:08Speaker 2: you so very much for finding time to come on
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: and talk with me today, man, like.
- 1:06:13Speaker 3: Always, thank you for having me again. I really appreciate it.
- 1:06:17Speaker 2: Yeah, it is what it is. Buddy, you know it
- 1:06:20Speaker 2: goes all right. So remember, guys, we are the I,
- 1:06:23Speaker 2: we are aware and I love you all.