Latest / Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast / We Chat To All Black Legend Ian Jones!
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This Gentleman Being podcast. Hey, that's us broad to you
- 0:02Speaker 1: by Hello Fresh the Experts and Tastes that kiwis love
- 0:06Speaker 1: all black legend in Jones joining us.
- 0:08Speaker 2: In this studio.
- 0:09Speaker 1: And you bought a like I was going to say
- 0:11Speaker 1: a little guest, but a big special guest with it
- 0:13Speaker 1: with yourself.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Thanks so much being hay Meaghan. I cannot come just
- 0:16Speaker 2: on my own right, I think you'd be fine. Yeah,
- 0:20Speaker 2: I couldn't bring scones. I bought the Breeders Cup. Pretty
- 0:24Speaker 2: special to all backs, pretty special to New Zealand.
- 0:27Speaker 1: And it is a huge truffle. I've never like you
- 0:29Speaker 1: see it on TV. You see the captains lifting it up,
- 0:32Speaker 1: but it is massive.
- 0:33Speaker 3: But you gotta remember on TV being the captain's a
- 0:35Speaker 3: massive yeah, Karen Reid, Yeah here you know, big men,
- 0:39Speaker 3: big trophy.
- 0:41Speaker 4: I couldn't lift it above my head. No, I couldn't
- 0:44Speaker 4: lift it very far, to be honest, it's very bias.
- 0:47Speaker 3: And when you did lift it, you felt on point,
- 0:49Speaker 3: You feunta and sink. You felt like you could have
- 0:52Speaker 3: been there lifting it.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 0:53Speaker 1: Yeah, I imagine there's been a few beers over the
- 0:56Speaker 1: years drunk out. It would actually hold quite a lot
- 0:58Speaker 1: of liquid, wouldn't.
- 0:59Speaker 2: It well being?
- 1:00Speaker 3: And the thing about a test match the build up
- 1:02Speaker 3: Monday to said that it is heart it is stressful.
- 1:05Speaker 3: So yep, when you do win, you have to celebrate,
- 1:08Speaker 3: right and that is a message for everyone. Hit a goal,
- 1:10Speaker 3: tap yourself on the back, celebrate that goal and yep
- 1:13Speaker 3: sometimes that thing does get filled up.
- 1:15Speaker 2: Now.
- 1:15Speaker 4: I find confusing though, is the Bleederslow Cup is huge,
- 1:19Speaker 4: but then when you see the World Cup it's very little.
- 1:22Speaker 2: Mean you're a Lady of the World silver. Yeah, oh yeah, okay.
- 1:26Speaker 3: The World Cup is gold, yeah, gold, blingy and beautiful.
- 1:31Speaker 1: That's what the Cup's great. But the World Cup, yeah,
- 1:34Speaker 1: they got a finer. So All Blacks Experience is something
- 1:37Speaker 1: that you're now the general manager of it.
- 1:39Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's superstoke.
- 1:40Speaker 3: So All Blacks Experience based in the sky City, pres
- 1:43Speaker 3: think come on and they're all the time, come for
- 1:45Speaker 3: a chat, even if you have to YouTube who I am,
- 1:48Speaker 3: come for a chat.
- 1:49Speaker 2: It's this amazing interactive experience. Ben it.
- 1:52Speaker 3: It is his fantastic hits to the core. And that's
- 1:55Speaker 3: like I say to share my wide, all Blacks wide.
- 1:58Speaker 3: You know, you go into the start and you leave
- 2:01Speaker 3: just absolutely buzzing and deep to the heart because you
- 2:04Speaker 3: take you to the making. How do you make an
- 2:06Speaker 3: all black or black fern? Well, how you make a
- 2:08Speaker 3: regular player or any sports person or even a radio
- 2:11Speaker 3: DJ has let them fall in love with what they do.
- 2:14Speaker 3: Once you absolutely love it, you're into it, then we
- 2:17Speaker 3: play shape and how do you shape that love into
- 2:19Speaker 3: the skills that you two have right here or the
- 2:21Speaker 3: all black Black fans have lots of little games and
- 2:24Speaker 3: then a real special treat at the end being I
- 2:26Speaker 3: want you to bring you in because you sit in
- 2:28Speaker 3: the changeings. What is it like being an all black
- 2:31Speaker 3: You know, when you put that all black jersey on
- 2:32Speaker 3: for the first time, you feel like Superman. You're almost invincible, right,
- 2:36Speaker 3: and you walk down the tunnel, start to hear the anthem,
- 2:38Speaker 3: start to hear the crowd noise, all those anxieties kind
- 2:42Speaker 3: of come back, and then you stand and face the hacker,
- 2:45Speaker 3: both all blacks and black Ferns, and it is just
- 2:47Speaker 3: mind blowing. So you leave that you are an all
- 2:51Speaker 3: Black Black Ferns fan.
- 2:52Speaker 4: Forever do you remember the first moment putting on the
- 2:55Speaker 4: jersey and having that moment in yourself the first time
- 2:58Speaker 4: you put on the all black jersey.
- 2:59Speaker 2: Do you remember absolutely?
- 3:01Speaker 3: It was a long time ago, in nineteen eighty nine.
- 3:04Speaker 3: I was actually presented my jersey by Buckshelf of the
- 3:06Speaker 3: captain at the time, So that was a pretty special treat.
- 3:09Speaker 3: And you just kind of looked at it and you
- 3:11Speaker 3: almost think this isn't real, But then you put it on.
- 3:15Speaker 3: The instant I put it on, I kind of knew
- 3:18Speaker 3: were never going to lose. It was almost that mindset. Okay,
- 3:21Speaker 3: clearly sometimes you did, but I never lose this jersey.
- 3:25Speaker 3: You look around these men and you literally do grow
- 3:29Speaker 3: ten foot tall.
- 3:30Speaker 2: Yeah I'm nearly there, yeah quite tall.
- 3:33Speaker 3: Yeah, but you feel so strong, so powerful, and so connected.
- 3:38Speaker 3: It has an amazing experience. And yet you come down
- 3:41Speaker 3: anyone who comes along. You sit in those chain rooms
- 3:44Speaker 3: and you realize, if you're in all black change rooms, right,
- 3:46Speaker 3: you're good. But we want people to be great, and
- 3:49Speaker 3: here you go from good to great? Is handle those
- 3:51Speaker 3: moments walking down that tunnel. You know you shrive or
- 3:55Speaker 3: some people tense up and never hit your peek. Well
- 3:57Speaker 3: that's what people find out walking down the tun It
- 4:00Speaker 3: is so so inspiring.
- 4:02Speaker 1: A very cool thing, a very unique thing that we
- 4:04Speaker 1: have here. On offer in New zeal And the all
- 4:06Speaker 1: Blacks experience and you being in charge. Now, what are
- 4:08Speaker 1: they getting here? Like putting a paper in the photocopy,
- 4:11Speaker 1: cleaning the bathrooms? I mean, what's the things you.
- 4:13Speaker 2: Have to do? But I opened up this morning.
- 4:15Speaker 3: I'm there dust tackling people coming out they come on in.
- 4:20Speaker 3: But the best thing we've got coming out there school holidays.
- 4:22Speaker 3: Of course, because I'm there, I can do things.
- 4:24Speaker 2: I want to do.
- 4:25Speaker 3: Right, So hey, kids come free or one kid per
- 4:29Speaker 3: one adult come free because I want them to be inspired.
- 4:31Speaker 3: I want them to kind of feel the all Blacks
- 4:33Speaker 3: and the Black fans values. But you've heard about the
- 4:36Speaker 3: week book stat attacks, right, big cards been around a
- 4:39Speaker 3: long long time on Wednesday and Thursday of this week.
- 4:42Speaker 2: So ten am through to five pm, come along. They
- 4:46Speaker 2: can weep big stat attacks, big activation. There.
- 4:49Speaker 3: Kids can make up their own cards, so you might
- 4:52Speaker 3: have a Ben Boys Legends.
- 4:53Speaker 2: Card or make your own.
- 4:58Speaker 3: It's a thing here we're giving away because this is
- 5:03Speaker 3: me being we can give away things when the general manager.
- 5:06Speaker 2: There's going to be some gold cards.
- 5:07Speaker 3: So if into the week Big stat attack and you
- 5:09Speaker 3: know who the gold card is, Doctor far Apartment, his
- 5:13Speaker 3: card's going to be down there, so come on and
- 5:15Speaker 3: do the tour, buy yourself a jersey, get into the week,
- 5:18Speaker 3: big stat attack, be inspired and you may even recognize
- 5:22Speaker 3: who I am.
- 5:23Speaker 1: And obviously though people can see like the letters of
- 5:26Speaker 1: a cup and other trophies on display.
- 5:28Speaker 3: Yep, that's one of the best things about opening the
- 5:29Speaker 3: All Black experience up until then, and not just New
- 5:32Speaker 3: Zealand Rugby, but all organizations around the world. We used
- 5:34Speaker 3: to hide our trophies in the corporate offices. Now we
- 5:37Speaker 3: can display them. So I'm going to have the breathers
- 5:39Speaker 3: a cup out during the week. I even rang Richard
- 5:42Speaker 3: McCall last week, and I've got the twenty fifteen Rugby
- 5:45Speaker 3: World Cup, so you can come along take a photo
- 5:48Speaker 3: of that, which he said, no problems whatsoever.
- 5:51Speaker 2: Just don't letting the Australians to touch it was his message.
- 5:55Speaker 2: He doesn't hold on to it the different World Cups.
- 5:58Speaker 3: So for every time you win a Wi Cup eighty
- 6:00Speaker 3: seven for US twenty eleven, twenty.
- 6:03Speaker 2: Fifteen, you get the real, the gold one megan.
- 6:07Speaker 3: For a year with security guards, then you get this
- 6:11Speaker 3: beautiful replica.
- 6:13Speaker 2: Okay, So I rang.
- 6:14Speaker 3: Up Richie because he was a captain of course, Hey Richie,
- 6:16Speaker 3: can we display and for these people who come along
- 6:19Speaker 3: for the week bookstat attack Wednesday Thursday, can they take
- 6:21Speaker 3: photos of the World Cup? And he said, no problems,
- 6:24Speaker 3: what's amazing.
- 6:25Speaker 2: So there we go.
- 6:26Speaker 3: We're going to have the better of the cup, have
- 6:27Speaker 3: a photo with it once again, no Australians to touch
- 6:32Speaker 3: and we'll have the World Cup. But come along man
- 6:34Speaker 3: and all this week. Parents if you know, or caregivers, grandparents,
- 6:40Speaker 3: what do you want to do with those kids in
- 6:41Speaker 3: the holidays? Bring them down, We'll look after them for
- 6:44Speaker 3: a couple of hours. They'll have the time of their life.
- 6:46Speaker 2: It's a really cool thing.
- 6:48Speaker 1: You can see how excited you are now doing it,
- 6:49Speaker 1: which is great.
- 6:50Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's just so powerful.
- 6:53Speaker 3: It's not just about rugby, right, It's just about who
- 6:55Speaker 3: we are as keywis the values that we share, the.
- 6:59Speaker 2: Culture of the team, of the country every step of
- 7:02Speaker 2: the way. Our guides.
- 7:03Speaker 3: I don't actually say our guides are world class because
- 7:05Speaker 3: they're not. They are all black class and that is
- 7:08Speaker 3: high and you could ever get and they just share
- 7:11Speaker 3: their stories or you know, have a chat to them
- 7:14Speaker 3: about different things. We've got jes Zys here that they
- 7:16Speaker 3: can take a look at touch field and just you
- 7:20Speaker 3: want that buzz. You know when you go to a
- 7:22Speaker 3: game for the first time and head along to a
- 7:23Speaker 3: test match, there's always that buzz and anticipation.
- 7:27Speaker 2: That's what we want to feel every time.
- 7:30Speaker 3: It's just it's so cool and to see not just kids,
- 7:33Speaker 3: but see people walk out the end just connected to
- 7:37Speaker 3: who New Zealand Rugby is all Blacks, the Black Ferns,
- 7:40Speaker 3: the Mighty team, absolutely connected to our teams in black.
- 7:43Speaker 2: It is beautiful. Man. I am so proud when people
- 7:47Speaker 2: come out like that. I feel that.
- 7:50Speaker 4: To me, you're You're a legend as well.
- 7:53Speaker 1: Like when I first started wanted to get into TV,
- 7:56Speaker 1: I was I made a crappy pilot for a pop sport,
- 7:58Speaker 1: you know the show that I have the first Well yeah,
- 8:01Speaker 1: and well that was the thing, but no experience. Really
- 8:04Speaker 1: just had a dream of being on TV and we
- 8:05Speaker 1: rang around a few people to make this pilot for
- 8:07Speaker 1: free and in Jones, one of my heroes, said yes
- 8:10Speaker 1: to being in this.
- 8:11Speaker 2: Pilot for nothing.
- 8:13Speaker 1: Came along to a flat, a scungy flat in the
- 8:15Speaker 1: North Shore that we were filming it at. It was
- 8:17Speaker 1: amazing what you did and you know, I think we
- 8:19Speaker 1: had the skip one hundred and one uses for in
- 8:21Speaker 1: Jones because he was so tall, and so we had
- 8:22Speaker 1: you like getting cats out of trees and like holding
- 8:25Speaker 1: things out of reach of children because you're tall.
- 8:27Speaker 2: But it was a wonderful thing that you did, so
- 8:28Speaker 2: thank you. And the one I loved about that was
- 8:31Speaker 2: the lighthouse. Yeah, it was just so tall. It was
- 8:36Speaker 2: all about the fact you were so tall. Next door,
- 8:42Speaker 2: so no, come along.
- 8:43Speaker 3: I mean absolutely phenomenal to just come up and say
- 8:47Speaker 3: I'm always there are lots of all blacks and black
- 8:49Speaker 3: ferns just come walking around the place because the all
- 8:51Speaker 3: Blacks experience was built on the legacy of all the
- 8:55Speaker 3: players have worn black, so it's their space and Auckland,
- 8:58Speaker 3: so there's lots of players was coming around using my office,
- 9:01Speaker 3: using using my ten coffee.
- 9:05Speaker 4: So if you see Ian Jones there, ask him if
- 9:08Speaker 4: you can use his wife.
- 9:08Speaker 1: Yeah, all black experience. I've got some dub so passes,
- 9:11Speaker 1: some family passes to give away. Just before you go,
- 9:13Speaker 1: we talk about weep bik stats. Do you remember some
- 9:15Speaker 1: of your stats? And my three some questions yep, go away?
- 9:18Speaker 1: How many tests did you play?
- 9:23Speaker 2: Was it seventy nine, Yes, it was, so.
- 9:25Speaker 1: How many games did you play for New Zealm?
- 9:27Speaker 2: I know that one hundred and five? Well don't yeah,
- 9:29Speaker 2: there you go. Okay are your all black debut? Do
- 9:31Speaker 2: you remember what year it was? Yep?
- 9:33Speaker 3: Nineteen eighty nine. It was against the Cardiff Rugby Club
- 9:36Speaker 3: at Cardiff Hoos.
- 9:37Speaker 2: Oh, you're right, and your actually all black test? It
- 9:40Speaker 2: was the year after, yeah, nineteen nineteen.
- 9:42Speaker 3: The unique thing about my all black debut was in
- 9:45Speaker 3: a white all black jersey. Oh, Scotland, I scored a
- 9:48Speaker 3: try on debut fifty tests later.
- 9:51Speaker 2: On the same ground, on the same blader grass. It
- 9:54Speaker 2: is the same opposition. Scotland scored another try. So you
- 9:58Speaker 2: know your stats? How many test drice did you overall? Nine? Yeah? Nine?
- 10:04Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 10:06Speaker 1: And finally you scored three tries in a Super rugby game,
- 10:09Speaker 1: a Super twelve rugby game in nineteen ninety six.
- 10:11Speaker 2: Who are you playing a game? I do remember? That
- 10:13Speaker 2: was at and Hamilton against New South Wales. Was the words.
- 10:16Speaker 1: There you go? You know, hey, wonderful to see you again.
- 10:21Speaker 1: It's really really awesome what you're doing. And people should
- 10:23Speaker 1: get along school holidays sounds like a great time.
- 10:25Speaker 2: Yep.
- 10:25Speaker 3: Come on down, got blas her cap, got the World Cup,
- 10:27Speaker 3: got the week books that attack. Of course, we've also
- 10:30Speaker 3: got some signed jerseys that we can give away plenty
- 10:34Speaker 3: to do so Sky said, you pre think and the
- 10:36Speaker 3: other thing because I'm just at Libert now and I'm
- 10:39Speaker 3: sure Sky said, you will be happy with this.
- 10:41Speaker 2: Free parking on Instagram.
- 10:43Speaker 3: I'll give them free parking if they come down, do
- 10:46Speaker 3: a tour well off in free parking the details later
- 10:50Speaker 3: to just tell.
- 10:51Speaker 1: Them the Camo kids just come again, the All Blakes experience,
- 10:55Speaker 1: go along the school holidays and this week of course
- 10:57Speaker 1: the special wheetbooks thing they're doing as well.
- 10:59Speaker 2: Sounds awesome. Nice to see you again, Thanks very much,