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Furness Show 6-30: Joe Sheehan, John Lund, Mariners issues · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: There's a move that took place yesterday into the new place. Congratulations,
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  Speaker 1: your first house. Thank you. There's that, and then there's
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  Speaker 1: a little thing called the World Cup going on, and
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  Speaker 1: he's been doing stuff daily for that, not just the
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  Speaker 1: show at seven o'clock, he and the cast of thousands.
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  Speaker 1: He's doing an hour podcast every day as well. You're
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  Speaker 1: a busy man, very busy. Good to have you back.
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  Speaker 1: It's good to be back. I missed the daily grind
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  Speaker 1: of doing the Infnest show. Well, I appreciate we got Well,
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  Speaker 1: here's the thing. We got a lot to talk about today.
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  Speaker 1: We got a lot to talk about. Thank you, mister Hollander.
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  Speaker 1: We appreciate you very much. On June thirtieth, this time
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  Speaker 1: of the year, we'll get to that. We got a
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  Speaker 1: lot of sound in the next segment coming up at
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  Speaker 1: twelve to twenty today, we'll get to I've got a
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  Speaker 1: little different take on him, I think than some and
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  Speaker 1: not to be like the smartest guy in the room.
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  Speaker 1: I'm far from that, but I just I'm seeing it
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  Speaker 1: from a different lens. I'll just say that. And there's
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  Speaker 1: part of me that really supports his stuff. Yesterday, his
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  Speaker 1: little his little meeting session that he had, and there's
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  Speaker 1: part of me that has a huge problem with what
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  Speaker 1: he said yesterday, but probably more supportive than not. And
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  Speaker 1: I'll get to that coming up at twelve twenty. We'll
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  Speaker 1: also play a little bit back from Molly Watt Monday,
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  Speaker 1: Greg ash me as a as the show was Eddie,
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  Speaker 1: Greg goes, well, how was that yesterday with those guys?
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  Speaker 1: I said, well, how the hell do you think it was?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Murders lost Marvor's what two and four on
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  Speaker 1: a road trip and they absolutely wet themselves on the
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  Speaker 1: last game.
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  Speaker 2: They go below five hundred, not in the first place
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  Speaker 2: in the AOST anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, the Dan Wilson stuff is there, like, like, the
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  Speaker 1: reality is the team has I think it's safe to
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  Speaker 1: say the team's underperformed, right, Yeah, like Dave underperformed absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Yet if you think they're a five hundred team, I
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  Speaker 1: can't dance with that there. They should be better than
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  Speaker 1: a five hundred team, and that's who and what they
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  Speaker 1: have been for most of this season, hovering around five hundred.
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  Speaker 1: They're able to get away with it because up until
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  Speaker 1: recently the rest of the division has been awful. Now
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  Speaker 1: that's the problem. The rest of the division right now
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  Speaker 1: is starting well, at least two of the teams starting
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  Speaker 1: to catch them up.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it almost feels like Ian that the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the division almost assumed, Yeah, the Mariners will figure it out,
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  Speaker 2: and now they're kind of realizing, wait a second, what
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  Speaker 2: if they don't figure it out, maybe we can actually
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  Speaker 2: go and take this division from them. And so he's
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  Speaker 2: kind of what it feels like at this point.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're one hundred percent right. And now all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden, now they came back. Nice win yesterday, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: nice bounce back, Thank you George Kirby. George Kirby. Awesome.
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  Speaker 1: And then on top of that, you throw out a
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  Speaker 1: cold young two home run day. Can zone again. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's but the recipe for success is what we saw yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Yet again, they have to hit home runs to win.
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  Speaker 1: If they don't hit home runs, they don't win. If
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  Speaker 1: they hit home runs, by and large, they win. So
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  Speaker 1: that's a good thing. Nice win. Perfect. We move on.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk to Joe Shehan coming up today at twelve
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  Speaker 1: or at one twenty. The Mets made a managerial move,
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  Speaker 1: and I know it's one that Joe kind of endorsed
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  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about what's going on here with Joe.
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  Speaker 1: We'll do that in the next segment as well. I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, baseball is such a fickle sport because it
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  Speaker 1: happens so quick, like game game, game game, maybe day
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  Speaker 1: off game game game day off, game game, game day off.
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  Speaker 1: The It's a fickle game in that regard. You know,
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  Speaker 1: like we're feeling better today, right, Everyone feels a little
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  Speaker 1: bit better today. It doesn't erase all of the issues
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  Speaker 1: going on with this baseball team. And some of the
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  Speaker 1: issues are out of your control. Injuries, some are players underperforming.
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  Speaker 1: Cal looking at you a little bit with Julio in
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  Speaker 1: the in the month the June, but we'll we'll get
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  Speaker 1: to that later. I think there's some underlying numbers there
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  Speaker 1: that might make it feel a little bit better for
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  Speaker 1: for Julio. We're going to have with Shean Naylor's been
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  Speaker 1: a big disappointment.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately, I did. I'm starting to really worry about
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  Speaker 2: that contract.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a valid concern. I think there was
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  Speaker 1: a con well, we talked about yesterday and uh Anders,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Chris brought that up, he said, I And
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  Speaker 1: if I remember right, Chris did say that he did.
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  Speaker 1: He said after it happened, he said, this thing may
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  Speaker 1: not age well. And when it doesn't age well, it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be fast. And it's not just that other
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  Speaker 1: players don't like First of all, I like the fact
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  Speaker 1: that other players don't like him. Yeah, I think that's great,
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  Speaker 1: people telling him, no one likes you. Give me, give
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  Speaker 1: that guy on my team.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go.
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  Speaker 1: You know who nobody likes Jacob Malanson for the crack.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody likes him, brab Marshan. You know what, if you're
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  Speaker 1: a baseball player, nobody likes you, good, we don't have
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  Speaker 1: to play grab ass. No, Like I hate the grab
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  Speaker 1: ass stuff like I hate it, like I hated. The
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  Speaker 1: NBA is the worst. Like the NBA, they are all
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  Speaker 1: best buds. The NBA, you get the impression nobody cares
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  Speaker 1: at all about winning. Right, baseball, you got a little
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  Speaker 1: more red ass in you with baseball, there's no doubt.
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  Speaker 1: But there's a little bit of that. I mean, Julio
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  Speaker 1: might be the nicest guy in the league. I mean
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  Speaker 1: he's never been on base and not been smiling and
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  Speaker 1: playing grab ass with the other team. That's just him.
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  Speaker 1: That's not a criticism, it's just him. I prefer Nay
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  Speaker 1: or nobody liking him, but probably is right now we're
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  Speaker 1: not liking him either, so that's an issue coming up.
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  Speaker 1: Lund's gonna join us coming up at two pm today.
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  Speaker 1: Wrote a great story on the NBA Draft. Just what
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  Speaker 1: an absolute embarrassment that thing is on every level, and
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  Speaker 1: I think the NBA is embarrassing itself on a daily basis.
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  Speaker 1: The John Moran deal is a joke. Lebron is going
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  Speaker 1: to force his way to another team again. There's a
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  Speaker 1: word about is a Golden State and staph kind of fun.
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  Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. Part of me just says that's awful,
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  Speaker 1: gross and disgusting. Part of me also says, that'll be interesting. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, can you can you go trade for Clay
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  Speaker 1: and bring him back? That'd be really fun if that
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  Speaker 1: was the case and I had a contract, though, Lebron
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  Speaker 1: is it. I think he's a free agent. Yeah yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so it's not like he's forcing his way out. He's
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  Speaker 1: just choosing not to resign. Yeah yeah, yeah, he'll play elsewhere.
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  Speaker 1: He's moved. He is good to play elsewhere. According to
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  Speaker 1: a Shaw, the decision two point zero. Oh god, no,
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  Speaker 1: you don't need that, all right, four nine four five
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  Speaker 1: one four nine four five one. That is the tacomb
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  Speaker 1: adage text line four nine four to five one. Your thoughts,
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  Speaker 1: your comments, your questions, your concerns. When we come back,
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  Speaker 1: we'll go two fold into things. Let's start when we
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  Speaker 1: come back with with the with the Justin Hollander stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm I'm gonna look at it from
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not the smartest guy in the room. I'm
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  Speaker 1: far from it. In fact, I'm probably one of the
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  Speaker 1: dumber people in the room. The older you get, the
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  Speaker 1: dumber you get, believe me. And you'll find this out
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  Speaker 1: some day. Yeah, I'm already finding it. When your kid
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  Speaker 1: gets old enough to talk and speak, probably in about
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  Speaker 1: three four years, you're gonna find out how really dumb
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  Speaker 1: you are when your wife tells you how dumb you
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  Speaker 1: are on the daily. Oh yeah, indeed, indeed, my wife
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  Speaker 1: doesn't even tell me that more. She just looks at me.
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  Speaker 3: Ye.
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  Speaker 1: It's a look. It's a look. It's a look and like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I know, I just I know, just have It's like
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  Speaker 1: you need to have cash in your pie. I'm sorry, yeah, anyway,
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  Speaker 1: but I there's part of what Honder said that really
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  Speaker 1: kind of resonated with me. I'll get to that coming up,
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  Speaker 1: and then we'll jump into a little replay of the
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  Speaker 1: Molly Up. Just just a snippet about Dan Wilson. I
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  Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts on that as well. All
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  Speaker 1: that's coming up next nine three point three KFM.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I guess some baby fall light here. Joechien
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  Speaker 1: one twenty by the way, France Sweden. Easy win for
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  Speaker 1: France coming up at two o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, should be, but I thought that was going
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  Speaker 2: to be Germany yesterday too, So never know. But yes,
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  Speaker 2: I think Francis step higher. Mexico Ecuador later. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's such a good game. Mexico's playing on home. They've
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  Speaker 2: won all three of their group stage games, I think
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  Speaker 2: in Mexico City. But somehow I think Ecuador is the
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  Speaker 2: better team, even though they got third place in their group.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know. We'll see what ends up happening.
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  Speaker 1: I'd hate to be Ecuador. If they beat Mexico in
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  Speaker 1: Mexico City, he just get out of dodge.
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  Speaker 2: That would be awesome. That would be awesome, you know,
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  Speaker 2: rival to the US.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, Yeah, no, I'm okay with it. I'm okay
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  Speaker 1: with Mexico losing. Trust me, I'm very much okay with that. Well, plus,
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  Speaker 1: like some most small countries, be great, yeah for ecudor
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  Speaker 1: be awesome. Absolutely all right. So, first of all, marriage
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  Speaker 1: return home. Yesterday, they have their first game of the
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  Speaker 1: home stand. I there's a lot of what Justin Hollander
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  Speaker 1: did yesterday. I really love at the top of the list.
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  Speaker 1: I love the fact that the guy is speaking to
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  Speaker 1: the media. I open GM conversations. John Schneider would be nice,
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  Speaker 1: not just with the flagship, which is an iron ironic
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  Speaker 1: twist here we'll get to in a second. Justin Hollander
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  Speaker 1: yesterday in the dugout pregame, take a listen if.
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  Speaker 5: You want to say something before we get going. We've
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  Speaker 5: had a lot of insurance that I've seeing right now,
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  Speaker 5: and I think it's fair for people to be frustrated
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  Speaker 5: by that. I don't really think it's fair to take
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  Speaker 5: a training staff in terms of my loss for things
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  Speaker 5: that are out of their control. You know, I don't
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  Speaker 5: think in a year where we don't have any starting
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  Speaker 5: pitching injuries because our trainers have invented some new way
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  Speaker 5: to keep starting pitchers healthy, and when we have answerings
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  Speaker 5: and growings the sportstorneys and I get probably my mistake
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  Speaker 5: leaving on the win to take for end on Twitter
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  Speaker 5: or X, but I hate to see those people who
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  Speaker 5: I think do a great job and care more about
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  Speaker 5: these players than.
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  Speaker 3: Anyone I've the gender around as a staff.
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  Speaker 5: When I think if you ask are players, present, reformer,
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  Speaker 5: and how they feel about this training staff, they will
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  Speaker 5: tell you they're as good and as empathetic and caring
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  Speaker 5: and skilled as any training staff in the league.
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  Speaker 3: So while I'm not going to go through them individually,
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  Speaker 3: I just wanted to.
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  Speaker 5: Speak up for those guys and how unfair I think
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  Speaker 5: it is that there have been people both in the
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  Speaker 5: lunatic fringe and maybe in sportstop radio who have taken
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  Speaker 5: the opportunity to call for their.
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  Speaker 1: Heads for lack of a better way.
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  Speaker 6: I'm saying it.
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  Speaker 5: These are really good people who care about players, they
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  Speaker 5: care about keeping them healthy, who put their their souls
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  Speaker 5: into these guys and develop trust and relationships, and they deserve.
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  Speaker 7: Other than that.
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  Speaker 5: So I just want to start with that, and I
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  Speaker 5: apologize for getting a little bit of soapbox. But when
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  Speaker 5: someone is hurt, and there's a lot of guys on
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  Speaker 5: this list that are it's not their faults playing sports
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  Speaker 5: at the high level what happens, but these guys are
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  Speaker 5: are awesome in my opinion, These guys kind are awesome
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  Speaker 5: and they deserve better than you know, people on why
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  Speaker 5: posting their pictures and saying that you'd be fired. That's
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  Speaker 5: that's not right, man, Far better than that.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot to impact there. Top of the list
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  Speaker 1: is the sensitivity of a guy who's a general manager
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  Speaker 1: for a major league baseball team. But before I actually
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  Speaker 1: defend Justin Hollander, which I'm going to do in a second,
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  Speaker 1: just some some thoughts from you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you've talked about it before that there
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  Speaker 2: are there are ways to look at the reason the Mariners'
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  Speaker 2: injuries are mounting up this year more than in years past.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't necessarily and I don't want to pin it
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  Speaker 2: directly on this specific training staff, but there have been
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  Speaker 2: incidents in the past where this franchise as a whole
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  Speaker 2: has not dealt with injured players in the most positive way,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's a little incident like Julio a couple of
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  Speaker 2: years ago when he did his ankle and had to
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  Speaker 2: jog off the entire field.
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  Speaker 1: This un believe that was unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: That was right.
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  Speaker 1: I was at that game and I was like, what
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  Speaker 1: are you doing? Then he's out for like two weeks exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And so that's little things like that or even bigger
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  Speaker 2: stuff that happened, you know, before my time. And then
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  Speaker 2: there were suits involved, and I realized there's different training staffs,
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  Speaker 2: there's different people that are part of this. So Hollander
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  Speaker 2: is specifically defending the guys that are there now. But
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  Speaker 2: I also will say, I don't know anyone that has
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  Speaker 2: called for their heads.
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  Speaker 8: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what about the lynsic fringe comment. I struggle to.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with him, but I don't want you don't
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  Speaker 2: say that like a lot of those people are your fans,
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  Speaker 2: of the people that care about your team.
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  Speaker 1: They care, They care about that more than anybody.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it is true that you get people that
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  Speaker 2: are hiding behind an alias on Twitter and acts and
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  Speaker 2: stuff like that, and you know they can say more
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  Speaker 2: vulgar and you know, criticizing things than you can then
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  Speaker 2: you and I can on the air, or that anyone
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  Speaker 2: can write in a newspaper or a blog or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: But you still don't want to belittle your fan base
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  Speaker 2: like that. And that speaks from a place of where
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  Speaker 2: he thinks he's above his fans. And I don't think
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  Speaker 2: anyone is.
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  Speaker 1: Agree. I okay, there's there's I kind of there's two
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  Speaker 1: things to this, two sides of it. Let me start
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  Speaker 1: with I'll start the lumsic fringe part. Yeah, man, like
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  Speaker 1: your your fans are mad, they're upset. You have not
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  Speaker 1: played to the level that most people expect from this
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  Speaker 1: team this year. That's actually a good thing, like the
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  Speaker 1: fact that the expectations are higher than forty three and
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  Speaker 1: forty three, or before last night, forty two and forty three.
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  Speaker 1: Right you're playing an awful baseball team right now, Like
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  Speaker 1: an awful baseball team that's sixteen games below five hundred
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  Speaker 1: or fourteen games below five hundred. You should win those games.
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  Speaker 1: You played a good team or at least an average
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  Speaker 1: team in Cleveland, and you lost like you were not
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  Speaker 1: good in that series. So but the lunatic fringe. I
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  Speaker 1: like it from this standpoint. If you didn't have a
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  Speaker 1: lunatic fringe fan base, I think there'd be an issue.
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  Speaker 1: I think there would be a big issue. Agreed. You
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  Speaker 1: want to have a lunatic fringe fan base. You want
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  Speaker 1: them to be completely out of control without any sense
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  Speaker 1: of reality. That's okay because they're the ones that care
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  Speaker 1: the most. Yes, when you're the best, everyone cares. When
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  Speaker 1: you're not, not many people care. You want a lunatic fringe.
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  Speaker 3: You want that.
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  Speaker 1: You want those people to be there, and they are
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  Speaker 1: there twenty four seven, three sixty five. They're the ones
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  Speaker 1: getting pissed off in the offseason. They're the ones getting
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  Speaker 1: upset in spring training when a guy goes zero for
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  Speaker 1: four and Cactus League games. You want those people justin
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  Speaker 1: You want those people, you really really do.
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  Speaker 3: The part.
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  Speaker 1: I really agree with him, though, And I guess this
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  Speaker 1: is where I kind of see it from a different lens,
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  Speaker 1: because I mean, if I'm being honest, last week sucked
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  Speaker 1: for being someone who works for the Cracking. And I
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  Speaker 1: say that as someone who loves working for the Seattle Cracking.
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  Speaker 1: But it was a hard week. You know, the audit
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  Speaker 1: video aside. I expected there to be blowback and pushed
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  Speaker 1: back from that. I've expected fans to be upset as
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  Speaker 1: much as I try to explain how it makes no
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  Speaker 1: sense for you as a fan to think that they're
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  Speaker 1: going to give you every single piece of inside information
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  Speaker 1: and trade secret and here's what we found and here's
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  Speaker 1: what we're going to correct it. Outside of generalizations, I
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  Speaker 1: think you're a fool if you think that was actually
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  Speaker 1: gonna happen now Todd because he is so open, kind
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  Speaker 1: of like Hollander, because he's so open to toddlight Wiki's
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  Speaker 1: biggest open book in Seattle sports history. He sees a microphone,
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  Speaker 1: he'll say, yes, that's a great thing to have. It's
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  Speaker 1: a great trait to have. I think you were lucky
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  Speaker 1: to have that. We were lucky when he was with
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  Speaker 1: the Seahawks, lucky to have that with a kracking. But
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  Speaker 1: he's not going to tell you everything. But the fact
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  Speaker 1: that he insinuated he would tell you something and you
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  Speaker 1: can get what you wanted. I understand. Because the crack
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  Speaker 1: and lunatic fringe was pissed. Yeah, so that part I understood,
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  Speaker 1: But I didn't enjoy it. I didn't enjoy having that
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  Speaker 1: be part of my week. It felt like you had
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  Speaker 1: to defend what was going on because it was my
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  Speaker 1: face in my name. Yes, and as a representative of
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: the team, I try to explain it. Nobody wanted to
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: hear explanations. There's times that people don't want to listen.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: They don't want to hear what you have to say.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: But that's part of the job and I get that.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: That's fine. Then, of course the Jason Robertson stuff and
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: basically our organization just got drugged through the mud by
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: national media for four days. They weren't the only we
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: they cracking, weren't the only team Jason Robertson said no to,
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: but everyone decided to trash on them. For some reason,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Saint Louis and other teams that he told no to
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: are getting a pass. It's like, let's crap on the
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Seattle crack and that's like a sport now in the
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: National Hockey League. And I said this on our draft show.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I'm say again, I'm go back to the Mariners in
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: a second, bring it back to that. It'll it'll make sense.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: I'll tie together. Yeah, but if you're the National Hockey League,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: you should want a national Hockey League media who's livelihood
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: depends on covering a league that people are caring about
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: more than ever before. You know how you grow the
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: game and help that by having media market twelve the
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: United States of America have a relevant team that you're
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: not just crapping on, but instead we want to just
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, we're in the crosshairs and that bothers me.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: So I get very defensive. I got into it with
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: a couple of national media guys and text matches over
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: the weekend say like, you guys, just pull your head out, man, like,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: what are you doing? It's not just Seattle? And why
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: did he not come here? Well, because there's a loser organization.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Really go look at the facilities. You tell me that's
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: a loser organization. A loser organization is one that's never
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: been in the Stanley Cup in fifty years and doesn't
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: have a practice facility Vancouver, or can't win with the
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: best player on the planet Edmonton. But so here's where
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I'll bring it back to the Mariners. I understand hall
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: what Justin's doing. He's defending his at first his team
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: with the lunatic fringe, and then he's defending his training staff.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: But this is where he loses me. And I listen,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: good for you defend your people. You should defend your people.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what they were doing is taking pictures of them
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: and asking them to be fired on social media is
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: not right.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: It's it's and you know, like, if you're an athletic
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: trainer for a professional sports team, sometimes you're kind of known. Yeah,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: you are not always. I mean, but Rick Griffin was
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: borderline celebrity in Seattle for you know, his forty or
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: so ten years of being the Marriner's trainer. I mean
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: he was Rick's a great dude. And when he was
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: in running the team and and I mean hell he
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: did the Bigger Dance with us famously back in the day.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Like he always wanted a sheet. I mean he's Rick's
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: a great guy and a friend to all and was
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: always open always. We talked to him before the train
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: spring training star at hey, here's the injury updates. And
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I think we always felt really really good with Rick
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: in charge. The Seahawks Mays change their trainings a few
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: years ago. Their group is really good, like really good
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: just watching how they operate, and they've been really good.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: And you know what, if you're a training staff at
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: the highest level. Your training, schooling degrees, expertise, background is
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: of the highest of levels, Like, you're really good at
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: your job. Who makes decisions though, Well that's the that's
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: the front office. Here's the only criticism that I've ever
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: heard on our station in regards to the training staff,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: because he mentioned sports radio and I'm gonna that in
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: a second stand by for that one.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: But when.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Because immediately everyone's like, well it's KJR. The only criticism
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I've ever heard on this station is not so much
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: for the training staff, because first of all, let's why
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: do you use god common sense, please the trainers. If
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: you want to criticize anybody in the organization for guys
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: getting hurt, it's twofold. It's the athlete for not being
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: ready physically if it's a soft tissue or b it's
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: your strength and conditioning department for not having them ready
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: to go if you have a bunch of like soft
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: tissue and all those types of injuries. But I don't
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: think that's the case. They've changed the marriage changed that
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: out a couple of years ago. They have this weird
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: advanced stuff. I think it was James Clifford, the ex
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Husky linebacker was doing all these things. There's all rubber
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: bands and blah blah blah and all this weird stuff
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: they're doing. They've changed all that. They gutted that staff.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: And those who would think, oh, that's the same as
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: the training staff, right, No, No, it's strength and conditioning.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: It's different. The strength and conditioning guys treat guys after
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: they get hurt. They're not the reason they get hurt.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: They trade them after they get hurt. But the only
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: christonalm I've ever heard was well, wait a second, why
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: are you know what? Why are like? Why are guys
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: not going on the injured list immediately? Why do we wait?
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: And that's the question I've had on the air, and
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I think we've all had on the airs. Like, the
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: only crision I heard on this station ever from multiple
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: people was like, well, why did it take three weeks
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: for cal to finally go on the injured list? And
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: whose decision is that? That decision is not made. The
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: trainer doesn't say, oh, here, I'm going to put you
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: on the injured list today. That is maybe it's a recommendation, sure,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: but the organization justin Jerry have to make that determination.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: So let's get all those facts straight first, and how
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: the protocol works. No, so, but he's defending his people
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: and he should, and good for you. Let's be careful
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: when you're tossing out sports radio because that's a big term.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: There are two sports radio stations in town. There's a
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: zillion people that have podcasts. My male man has one,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: the milkman has one, anders six or four month old
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: child has one. Yes, everyone has a podcast. Jerry, are
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: you referring to a podcast? No, Jerry, justin You're you
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: referring to a podcaster. Are you referring to one of
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: the two sports radio stations in town? Well, I can
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: tell you it wasn't this station. So then I think
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: to myself, well, wait a second, are you referring to
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: a podcaster or are you referring to the flagship radio station. Well,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: if you're referring to the flagship radio station, because you
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: said radio station, and we're having people text in and
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: tell us who the show over there, so that's what
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: it sounds, I'll go with that. I don't listen to
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: that show. God, I listen to paint drying before that.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: But but if you're talking about that radio station, that's
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: your flagship station, Jerry, Justin, keV the group, John Stanton,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: that's your flagship radio station. They're the ones apparently they were,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Oh well, that's interesting. Your flagship radio station is going
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: after your training staff on the air. But we're the
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: ones that everybody automatically said. In fact, I've already Nathan
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: and Chris. It was the Bullywop guys. I'm sure they
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Everyone just assumed it was Nathan and Chris, did it.
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: Now?
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Listen, listen, listen, listen. One hundred percent, one hundred percent.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I would go down that road too. And if you
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: want to blame somebody for something in this market on
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: sports radio, it has to do with something with the Mariners,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: and it's not good.
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Man, you put those two in your crosshairs and you're
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: probably going to be right most of the time, but
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: not this time. You weren't right this time. I love it.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Somewhere over across the water, take a ferry. That's where
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: you would go own most of the time. Those two
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: the muppets sitting above the stage there, it's them. It's
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent of them. Yeah, but it wasn't. It
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: was your flagship station, fella. It was your flagship station.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Only I had to ask us have the stoves to
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: say who it was. Don't just lump everybody together, because
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: here's the thing. Not Chuck is different than Greg, Greg
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: is different than he is different than Softy and Fame.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Go through the whole list, right, and
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: now the other guys. They used to call Mike and
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Mike in the morning, same same you couldn't tell it
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: was talking between the two, the same same Excember one
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: guy I was wanted like eight times the show would
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: point out that he played football, but same same, well,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: same same over there. But you know what if it's
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: not If I'm over there and I know it's on
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: our say, I want them to say who it is. Yeah,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be lumped into that because yeah,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: it's it's wrong. You don't be putting. And then and
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: so then this lunatic fringe apparently whoever it is, bloggers
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: or fans or whatever, put their names out there, their
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: faces out there. Well, their faces are on TV anyway
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: anytime a guy gets hurt. So I don't that part,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: you know, justin relax, your trainers are out there, Aaron's
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: gonna go, Hey, there's Sorgerson's out there, Da da da
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: like that. That's what they're gonna say. Yeah, but the
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: whole thing is just kind of laughable.
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: But I do.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: I do applod Justin for sticking up for his people.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I think that's important. I think if I'm working for him,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: you know what, I appreciate that one hundred percent. I
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: just there are some sensitive folks over there. Hell, there's
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: a coach that won't come on our air anymore. I
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: mean there's some sensitive people. I get that sports and
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I'm sensitive. I'm one hundred percent you know that. I
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: deal with you guys all the time. Right, I'm sensitive
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: as far as my hockey team is concerned. Very sensitive.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: I just I just thought it was funny sports radio. Okay.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I immediately thought, well, which podcaster was? But now we
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: find out it wasn't a podcast. Well, and that's kind
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: of the question I have.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Was he referring to like one of the Mariners podcasts
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: that exists when he's talking about the lunatic fringe, right?
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Or are those like just the fans on Twitter that
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: are saying anything Listen, I don't know, you should be
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: thrilled that you have a lunatic fringe. Yes, you should
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: be excited that you have a lunatic fringe. You want
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: to have a lunatic fringe. You want them on that wall.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: You need them on that wall.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: You need them, you need them. Don't belittle them though,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Don't belittle them. Yeah, don't belittle them. Don't belittle your
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: fan base. They need to come out their buying tickets
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: or going out there to buying beers. They're hanging out
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: and they're supporting you, and they supported Greg brought a
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: great point, like it's fifty years man, what it was
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: forty nine without a World Series. Maybe your fifty is
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: the magical year. Maybe if they turn it around, if
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: they turn it around. But you cannot go down that road.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: You just can't. But at the same at the same time,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I get the fact that he's defending his people, and
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: I understand that he's defending his people. I just I
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: just love those help I don't know if you were
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: sitting out there, purple sheet comes out.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: No, it was not us.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: We can tell you it wasn't us. Yes, it was not.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was somebody and apparently it was your
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: flagship radio station of all things, because I would have said, well,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: it's never them. They've never said a negative thing about anybody.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: That they were.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Partners with, apparently, was that's funny. I think you got
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: a problem with your flagship. Pretty significant one, too, pretty
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: significant one. I'd look into that. I would look into
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: that right now. All right, I do want it. I
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: don't know if we'll have time. We may have to
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: hold it for later the show. I was gonna get
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: to the managerial stuff. Yeah, I think we'll have to
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: we'll table that for now. But yeah, so there you go,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: four nine, four to five one. A lot of texts
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: coming in. No, by the way, two six manners fans,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: lunatic fringe. I wonder if he's referring to Skeeter and Shelton. No,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Skeeter's got other issues. I'd love to blame it with Skeeter.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: That'd be awesome. That, that would be awesome. All right, Well,
• 28:02
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• 28:25
  Speaker 1: NHL, rumor for you. I love the rumor bill in
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: the NHL. You can trying to figure out what's better
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: NHL or NBA free agency. NBA free agency which technically
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: begins to morrow, but trades are starting today. Yeah, everyone
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: getting moved is like just an absolute afterthought, piece of
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: just nonsense. Kawhi Leonards going to the Raptors, the rotting
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: carcass of once who was once Kawhi Leonard, that's true.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Lebron now going to pick a team to go try
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: to win a title at everyone's saying Minnesota would be
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: good for him. I mean, listen, wherever he goes, wherever
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: he goes, I need him to go to the Western Conference. Yeah,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: so we don't have to deal with those guys again
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: next year because wherever he goes is going to be better, right,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: and they're already an instant contender, right right, So just
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: take that pressure off of us here in Seattle, Lebron,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: you want to be a diva and you want to
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: go somewhere not name the Lakers. Stay in the West,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: go to a team that's ready made, just needs a
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: piece or two. Yeah, and make sure Oklahoma City realizes
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: they're still Oklahoma City. Okay, we need you to do
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: that just a golden state, go have some fun with
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Steph Minnesota seems right, though, he thinks what if he went,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: how about Denver with him and Jokic? Well in Murray,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Like if he's healthy, right, Like that's pretty good, pretty good?
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Pretty good?
• 29:45
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I mean he doesn't need the money, so he can
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: probably go somewhere for like next to nothing, I would think.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: But he's not taking a pick cut, he said, ah, yeah,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: So I think we're going to hear from Chase Reed
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: at one forty five, the Krakens first round pick that
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: they were on the actually the first day of development
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: camp with the rookies. He threw the first pitch out
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: last night. That's pretty you see that. I looked at him,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: do it like dudes, an athlete, like he's at like
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: you see sometimes people go like another sports trying to
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: throw a first pitch, Yeah, which is amazing, Like how
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: many people can't throw a baseball in today's world. It's
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: pretty wild.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: That's when you specialize at that level, like you never
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: touched anything else, right, so then even if you played
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: baseball when you were younger, it's like, oh, it's a
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: lot harder to do now.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: We threw out a first pitch years ago at Cheeney Stadium.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: When you say we, my former co host, so it
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: was multiple people puck me puck and actually my kid
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: was there. Yeah, and so the three of us went
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: out there. We did just show down there throughout the
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: first pitch and like we like, both of us old
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: guys could throw it, I mean not well and not hard,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: and he barely got it there. So you realize it
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: is kind of there's some pressure to it. Yeah, right,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: there's a little it's it's I mean, I've never been
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: asked to do it again and down there and haven't
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: been asked over here, so probably never have to worry
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: about it again, which is fine, but yeah, there's a
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: little something to it. You're gonna do a ceremonial puck
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: drop for the Kraken. I won't do that either, No,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I'm usually working. But yeah, anyway, I was gonna give
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: you the quick, just a little thing. Trade conversations and
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Columbus are on zach Warinzky, but teams are still decusting
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: h Coroll Machinko, who's wh big time goalscorer. Teams that
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: are interested appear to be Montreal, Uta, Seattle in Philly Listen,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: they're gonna get crushed again. Oh he does want to
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: go there? What our guy listened? Boxes in on everything
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: right now? You know how Jerry Depoto always says, we're
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: in on everything. O. Schnyder, that's a Schnyder Snyder. Yeah,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: we're in on that. I love that Schneider that's a
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Schnyder is. But that was kind of more of a
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: peat thing too, right, kind of Pete slash Schneider talk.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: It was one of those things where they finish each
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: other's sentence back in the day that we're in on everything.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, John's on John's on top of that, He's
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: on it, and John's like, yeah, we're on it. We're
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: on everything. We're in on everything. Well some bots is
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: doing right now. And the difference is can you get.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: The guy or not?
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: But I would take I'd take Mark Chenko in the
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: second huh.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like a perfect profile player Krack and Knee
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: like young I think really is on the cusp of
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: breaking into superstardom.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah right and in goalscorer right.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's like the perfect mold of a player
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: that I think that the and like relative unknown but
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: like he's not like a tier like every team wants
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: him sort of thing.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: You he could easily come here, elevate his role. Well
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: for people to want to, you know, have a hard
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: time with Seattle. You're going from Columbus Seattle.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: That's an upgrade, easy upgrade, trust me, and upgrade honestly,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: and franchise as well. Yeah yes, I mean they've been
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: around forever and having ever done any anything, zero zilch,
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: not not anlust.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Then you wanted to listen to that stupid cannon every
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: time you score a goal? Scares One time I was there,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: somebody know't Oh like it can't be well, it is
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: that bad. It really is on the on the radio broadcast.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah it's that bad.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: So all right, all right, so we're gonna come back.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: We're gonna hear a little bit from the Boys, the Boys,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: the Boys, the Boys, from Mikey Era, from Chris Send
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: and Nathan one of the things. And I kind of
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: wonder if this is what Justin Hollander was doing yesterday.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Was he just taking the focus on Danny Boy and
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: moving it elsewhere. Was he providing a much needed distraction
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: from the criticism the manager got.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: If that's the case man, well done justin Hollander. I mean,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: I wow, it felt very calculated in that regard. Then
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: on top of that that the Seal Times does a
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: whole fluff piece on how great Dan is today.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Course you see that. Of course it was good. It
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: was disgusting. I'll just say that it was really bad,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: like really bad. He needs more time, really, I don't know.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Fifty years seems like a long time, and yeah, he
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: hasn't been the manager for fifty years. But let's be honest,
• 33:53
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• 33:56
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  Speaker 1: Let's get to it. Yesterday The Boys, the Boys, Nathan
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: and Chris Little uh, Mollywatt Monday, Dan Wilson, despite the
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: win yesterday, still in the crosshairs of the lunatic fringe
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: out there. The lunatic fringe is not happy with Dan Wilson.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: We're gonna use that term a lot, aren't we. Forty
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: three and forty three is your baseball team? Anders? Is
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: that good enough?
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Nope?
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Does that reflect our expectations for the team this year?
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Nope?
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Nathan and Chris Yesterday, here's Chris starting out asking him,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: is Wilson the issue?
• 36:08
  Speaker 10: The whole pie for the mariners s show is not
• 36:11
  Speaker 10: Dan Wilson. But he's a good chunk of it. And
• 36:14
  Speaker 10: I will tell you this, he is if that pie
• 36:17
  Speaker 10: has turns in it. He's not the one who's adding
• 36:21
  Speaker 10: extra flavor to it. He's not making him better. Dan
• 36:24
  Speaker 10: Wilson is not making the Seattle Mariners better. And that
• 36:27
  Speaker 10: ultimately is what I come down to. It's why I thought, like,
• 36:31
  Speaker 10: was everything that happened in twenty twenty four Scott Service's fault?
• 36:34
  Speaker 10: Hell no, not even freaking close. But it was time
• 36:39
  Speaker 10: to make a change because Scott's Service wasn't making the
• 36:41
  Speaker 10: Seattle Mariners better. Dan Wilson cannot be making the Seattle
• 36:45
  Speaker 10: Mariners better. If Dan Wilson is making the Seattle Mariners better,
• 36:48
  Speaker 10: we have grossly understated how bad this roster is because
• 36:54
  Speaker 10: there's just no chance in hell, there's no chance in
• 36:56
  Speaker 10: hell that Dan Wilson is giving them an extra a
• 37:00
  Speaker 10: boost now what he does in the clubhouse. And we've
• 37:03
  Speaker 10: talked about this ad nauseum. We can't really judge because
• 37:06
  Speaker 10: we're not there. We are not in the clubhouse. We
• 37:08
  Speaker 10: don't know what he's doing for player morale. But I
• 37:11
  Speaker 10: will just point out player morale clearly can't mean that much.
• 37:16
  Speaker 10: You're a below average baseball team when you had aspirations
• 37:21
  Speaker 10: to be something much much more than that. And we
• 37:23
  Speaker 10: are past the halfway point of the year. We are
• 37:26
  Speaker 10: like we would be talking about if the Seahawks were
• 37:29
  Speaker 10: four and five right now, we would be talking not
• 37:32
  Speaker 10: about firing Mike McDonald, but we would be talking about
• 37:35
  Speaker 10: what went wrong. We would be talking about why this
• 37:38
  Speaker 10: didn't work out. It's time to start wondering why this
• 37:41
  Speaker 10: isn't working out and Dan Wilson is not making them better.
• 37:45
  Speaker 10: I will just tell you this much, and I don't
• 37:47
  Speaker 10: like saying this. If Christopher Crawford was in charge of
• 37:51
  Speaker 10: the Seattle Mariners, he would make advantagerial change and he
• 37:54
  Speaker 10: wouldn't think twice about it, because I don't think that
• 37:57
  Speaker 10: Dan Wilson is good enough at his job right now
• 38:01
  Speaker 10: to get the Mariners where they need to go. And
• 38:04
  Speaker 10: I know that managers are also kind of fungible things.
• 38:08
  Speaker 10: We've seen managerial changes in the middle of seasons all
• 38:11
  Speaker 10: the time that lead to success for teams. We've seen
• 38:14
  Speaker 10: it go the other way as well. Yeah, Dan Wilson
• 38:17
  Speaker 10: is not the only reason why the Seattle Mariners are struggling,
• 38:20
  Speaker 10: but he's certainly not a reason why they're better either
• 38:23
  Speaker 10: or making them better, I should say.
• 38:27
  Speaker 9: I think that there's an element too that One of
• 38:29
  Speaker 9: the things that I see discussed a lot is this,
• 38:32
  Speaker 9: how do we determine how much of this is on
• 38:34
  Speaker 9: Dan imp implementing a play sheet that's given to him
• 38:36
  Speaker 9: from above. Is he just a puppet for the front office?
• 38:39
  Speaker 9: Is he just running the plays at the front office?
• 38:41
  Speaker 9: And I'll admit that from my perspective, from the perspective
• 38:43
  Speaker 9: that I have, I can't delineate exactly where those two
• 38:47
  Speaker 9: things go. But what I do know is that there's
• 38:50
  Speaker 9: not like there's a phone or like a Dan phone
• 38:53
  Speaker 9: in the clubhouse, where the front office is calling in
• 38:55
  Speaker 9: during the game and telling him what to do as
• 38:56
  Speaker 9: the game goes on. What we have here is the
• 38:59
  Speaker 9: difference between if you're if you'll suffer the analogy for
• 39:01
  Speaker 9: a second. We have the front office doing the battle
• 39:04
  Speaker 9: plan before the battle happens, and then Dan Wilson is
• 39:07
  Speaker 9: the general and when action starts to happen and when
• 39:10
  Speaker 9: things start to happen on the field, he's in charge
• 39:13
  Speaker 9: of the tacticians in the tactics in real time. So
• 39:17
  Speaker 9: there is absolutely no way that the way this front
• 39:20
  Speaker 9: I have my issues with his front office. There is
• 39:21
  Speaker 9: no way this front office drew up a game plan
• 39:24
  Speaker 9: yesterday that involved Michael Rutger and Josh Simpson playing pitching
• 39:27
  Speaker 9: in the eighth inning that happened because of how the
• 39:30
  Speaker 9: manager reacted in real time to the things that happened
• 39:33
  Speaker 9: on the field. He is a very bad tactician. And
• 39:38
  Speaker 9: I'm sorry. I know that he's a really nice man,
• 39:40
  Speaker 9: and I bear him no ill will. We have seen
• 39:43
  Speaker 9: it over and over and over and over again. If
• 39:46
  Speaker 9: I'm wrong, and the Mariners did design Michael Rucker and
• 39:50
  Speaker 9: Josh Simpson to pitch the eighth yesterday. We have way
• 39:52
  Speaker 9: bigger issues than Dan Wilson. There's something going on at
• 39:55
  Speaker 9: the higher level that is a bigger concern than what's
• 39:57
  Speaker 9: happening with Dan. But I don't think that's what's going
• 39:59
  Speaker 9: on on. You are seeing a man who struggles to
• 40:03
  Speaker 9: adapt to changes in real time. The game moves too
• 40:06
  Speaker 9: quickly for him due to a lack of experience and
• 40:09
  Speaker 9: possibly a lack of acumen. And for the organization that's
• 40:12
  Speaker 9: in the place that it is right now, there should
• 40:15
  Speaker 9: be World Series or bust expectations, like Chris has. That
• 40:18
  Speaker 9: should be what's going on inside that organization right now.
• 40:21
  Speaker 9: You can't have this guy doing this stuff. Man, you
• 40:24
  Speaker 9: can't do it. I'm sorry, it can't happen, all right.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Chris kind of answered my next question, But I'll toss
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: it to Nate and I'll spin it a little different
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: way as well. I don't know if you guys know
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: this is the fiftieth anniversary season. I don't know if
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: you know what Dan's history is with the baseball team
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: as opposed to just being a manager. I'll spin it
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: a little different way, and I do want to kind
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: of go back into just the roster makeup though, now
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: now is part of me. You guys watch twenty four?
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Did you ever watch twenty four with Keith for Sutherland?
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Remember how he always had he's talking to Chloe. He
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: always had that little earbud like we call it them
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: in TV, like an ifb but it's wireless, right, You
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: couldn't see that he had it.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: In his ear.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Are you sure there isn't a twenty four little earbud
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: in Dan? Are you sure?
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Hey?
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Again, I think you need to go to Josh Simpson
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: right now. I think Simpson's the guy. If so, that's
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: a big issue. Uh, Chloe's at the computer.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no, no no no no,
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Uh what what?
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: What just got spit out? Chloe? What just got spinned out?
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Michael?
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Michael Rucker.
• 41:26
  Speaker 9: I think you can, absolutely, you know, if you want
• 41:29
  Speaker 9: to have a separate discussion over what Dan has been handed.
• 41:31
  Speaker 9: As far as a roster and the weaknesses of what's
• 41:34
  Speaker 9: going on there, I think that's a whole other discussion,
• 41:36
  Speaker 9: and I think there's plenty of room for criticism as
• 41:39
  Speaker 9: to how this roster was constructed, especially on the fringes
• 41:42
  Speaker 9: of it. But as far as just the day to
• 41:45
  Speaker 9: day management of what's happened with the Bullpens specifically, good god, man.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: If you were in charge, you would you would make
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: a managerial change.
• 41:54
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, and I think it's worth pointing out
• 41:56
  Speaker 10: I wouldn't have made the hire in the first place,
• 41:57
  Speaker 10: but yeah, right now, I would absolutely make the mame
• 42:00
  Speaker 10: a gerial change. It's it's nothing personal with Dan Wilson, obviously,
• 42:04
  Speaker 10: It's just I think that they need a different leader
• 42:07
  Speaker 10: at the top right.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Now, Nate.
• 42:10
  Speaker 9: It's hard for me to not agree with that. And again,
• 42:13
  Speaker 9: I really like Dan Wilson as a person. I respect
• 42:15
  Speaker 9: the fact that he's beloved within the organization because he
• 42:18
  Speaker 9: more than his play. He's just treats people the right way.
• 42:22
  Speaker 9: And I think it's important to acknowledge that, Like, this
• 42:24
  Speaker 9: is a guy that got where he is because he's
• 42:26
  Speaker 9: a good person, and I value that.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: I respect it a lot.
• 42:29
  Speaker 9: But he's not fit to for this job. They need
• 42:33
  Speaker 9: to find somebody better.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: They just real quick, real quick.
• 42:35
  Speaker 10: Also, the last time we asked for a change, the
• 42:38
  Speaker 10: Mariners had a fourteen game winning streak. When we had
• 42:40
  Speaker 10: the last time, yeah, we should have a change thing.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Hey, maybe that if that's what happens.
• 42:46
  Speaker 10: Then, just I'll let everyone know what my venmo is
• 42:48
  Speaker 10: because clearly we have some sort of magic.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it is true. We've done this for
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: a while this show, and this is not something we've
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: discussed a lot ever, No, and this is the second
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: time in about a month and a half we've done
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: So there's a reason for that, Chris. There's also reality.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: There's two realities I think in play here with Dan.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: One is, you know, Jerry Depotosin is coming here. He's
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: hired two managers. They both had no experience as managers,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: as managers period, not just big league managers, just managers.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: And now Dan did manage a JV softball team. I
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: did see that, my daughter played against him, but as
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: far as major League baseball, he's never done that. And
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: service his first job was here. I do think that
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: that's not unrelated. Like, I think there's a reason for that.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: You know, we just saw about the twenty four little
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: earbud in your ear, you know, like and dictating things,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: and you know, different guys would probably would not want
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: that particular job, right. So the other reality is it's
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: the fiftieth anniversary season. Chris, do you think there's any
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: chance they do make a managerial move with a Mariner
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Hall of Famer in the fiftieth anniversary year.
• 43:57
  Speaker 10: No, no, I think things would have to get really bad,
• 44:00
  Speaker 10: and boy do they have a chance to And just
• 44:03
  Speaker 10: to get this out of the way, I'm not rooting
• 44:05
  Speaker 10: for this whatsoever, But you lose a series to the Angels.
• 44:09
  Speaker 10: If you lose this stuffcoming serious to the Angels, and
• 44:11
  Speaker 10: like lose three out of four, maybe then you start
• 44:15
  Speaker 10: talking about some stuff, particularly if things look batter, if
• 44:17
  Speaker 10: there's some decision making. But I just can't see the
• 44:20
  Speaker 10: Mariners doing it. And the only reason I disagree with
• 44:23
  Speaker 10: you there ian about him hiring two guys. I don't
• 44:26
  Speaker 10: think Jerry Depotto hired Dani wils I think that decision
• 44:31
  Speaker 10: was made by somebody else. And you know, there's no
• 44:34
  Speaker 10: evidence that I have other than intuition, and don't I.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Don't disagree with that.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: So there you go.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: That's Nate and Chris yesterday. Obviously Dan Wilson is and
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: I think, you know we'll talk. I'll get into this
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: with Joe Shean coming up in just a couple seconds,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: because I think with Joe, you know, he wrote about
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: the Mets firing their manager. We always kind of wonder
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: how much pull the manager has and none of us
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: really know, but what decisions are his versus front office, right,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: so that that does come into play. I think in
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: the case of Dan Wilson, though, it's until he wins big,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: or if he never does win big, then it probably
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: won't matter or be moot. But maybe there's some after
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: effects of last year in Toronto with Bizardo, and I
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: don't know if you can get past that, but interesting stuff.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I'll hold stuff's up there on the podcast page. You
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: want to listen to Nate and christ from yesterday and
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: know they are not the ones that said fire the
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: training staff.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: No, they are not.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Believe it or not, they are not.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: They're looking at what actually is the issue, and that's
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: the man one of the issues, and that's the manager.
• 45:47
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• 45:49
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• 45:51
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  Speaker 1: And Joey had a lot to get to it. We
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: got a lot of stuff going on here in Seattle.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: But uh, before we do that, I remember I do believe.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: In fact, I want to take credit for this. Didn't
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: I ask you about the Chicago White Sox last week?
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Didn't I ask you if they're real? Last week? And
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: looking looky, LOOKI who wrote about the Chicago White Sox.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: It's my friend Joshian.
• 46:57
  Speaker 11: Wait it is, I'm gonna remember what I wrote?
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Great, Yes, yes, you did, sir, Yes, you did. The
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Chicago White Sox are a good baseball team almost.
• 47:10
  Speaker 11: Yeah, it's been a bit of a surprise how quickly
• 47:12
  Speaker 11: they'd come along. There were building trades that they made
• 47:14
  Speaker 11: or really starting to show up on the field. You
• 47:16
  Speaker 11: look at the high draft pick and Coulson Montgomery it's short.
• 47:18
  Speaker 11: You look at the trade for Braden Montgomery, he's out
• 47:20
  Speaker 11: there in the outfield. Kyle Thiel, who was part of
• 47:23
  Speaker 11: the Derek Crochet trade, just came off the aisle. They
• 47:25
  Speaker 11: have a deep system that's mostly been created through all
• 47:30
  Speaker 11: of these trades that they've made. So you give Chris
• 47:32
  Speaker 11: gets a lot of credit here. I worry about their
• 47:34
  Speaker 11: pitching depths. They really have two starters. They have two
• 47:37
  Speaker 11: young lefties and no Schultz and Hagen Smith who really
• 47:41
  Speaker 11: haven't been able to make an impact yet. So we'll
• 47:43
  Speaker 11: have to see if they get that out and then
• 47:45
  Speaker 11: we'll see. But you know, they're going to have to
• 47:46
  Speaker 11: be buyers. They're not going to fall far enough to
• 47:49
  Speaker 11: be sellers at the deadline, and I think if you're
• 47:51
  Speaker 11: in first place, you probably have an obligation to buy.
• 47:53
  Speaker 11: So it's really a fascinating.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Season, I think too, and I bring them up just
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: because we saw Cleveland with the Mariners of the weekend
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: and somehow Cleveland one two of three. I say somehow
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: because they had the miracle finish on Sunday. And we'll
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: get to why and how in a second. But you know,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Cleveland doesn't look like the most impressive team in the
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Central We've talked about the American League really, with the
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: exception of maybe the two teams in the American League East,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: nobody looks very good at all. But yeah, I mean,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: I think it's a cool story, honestly, Joe, Like we
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: talked last week about parody, and we talked about you know,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: salary Caps and what they're going to go with, you know,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: instead of the same old, same old. It's nice to
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: see a new team and it's the other team in Chicago.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: I just I kind of I want to see a
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: little fresh blood out there.
• 48:34
  Speaker 11: Oh, no question, turnover is good for the game when
• 48:36
  Speaker 11: we have different teams to focus on, different teams you
• 48:37
  Speaker 11: get excited about. You got the Marlins actually basically the
• 48:40
  Speaker 11: same record over the National League doing addressing things as well.
• 48:42
  Speaker 11: So yeah, it's early, and I think there is some
• 48:46
  Speaker 11: risk here. I go back to the twenty twenty one
• 48:48
  Speaker 11: Red Sox. Pim Bloom took over twenty nineteen and he
• 48:51
  Speaker 11: went into a rebuild, and then the twenty twenty one
• 48:54
  Speaker 11: Red Sox turned out to be very good. They guessed
• 48:56
  Speaker 11: pitching in Rule five and they brought along some guys.
• 48:58
  Speaker 11: Bullpen was very good, hitters good year, and it changed.
• 49:01
  Speaker 11: This reset the expectations for the Red Sox. They made
• 49:04
  Speaker 11: the playoffs that year, they won ninety games and everybody said, well, okay,
• 49:08
  Speaker 11: now we're winners. Now him went outside Trevor story, which
• 49:10
  Speaker 11: was turned into a disappointment and didn't getting fired a
• 49:13
  Speaker 11: couple of years later because he set those expectations. I
• 49:16
  Speaker 11: think if you're Chris, gets a little bit different because
• 49:18
  Speaker 11: we're going to say this over and over again. Right
• 49:20
  Speaker 11: it's the al Central, So he might fall back next year.
• 49:23
  Speaker 11: Still have a pretty good team, but you want to
• 49:25
  Speaker 11: be careful about getting ahead of your skis still a
• 49:28
  Speaker 11: team that's building towards something and shouldn't necessarily go all
• 49:32
  Speaker 11: right now, and you want to be sure you don't
• 49:33
  Speaker 11: basically reset the expectations for your fans before you're ready
• 49:36
  Speaker 11: to meet them.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Josh and joining us bright to my Northwold Handing systems.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Let me go to the ao Wes for a second.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: We've talked all year, and we'll get to our baseball
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: team in a second. I just I spent the first
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: hour of the show talking about them, so I need
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a little bit of break and
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: cleansing of the palette. But we'll get to them in
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: a heartbeat. Mayors are forty three and forty three. They
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: are even here come the Rangers, winners of five straight.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: They have moved ahead of Seattle by a half game.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: But the team I've asked you about a few times
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: this season, and god, they just seem to haunt us
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: like it's a cockroach man, or like a tick that
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: sticks on your skin when you're hiking in the summertime.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: They just don't go away. Their only a game and
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: a half behind Seattle. They're three hunderd five hundred. But
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: I kind of feel like, despite that forty three run differential,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: is Houston to worry? Is Texas a worry? How does
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Joe Sheen see what's going on in the two Texas
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: teams and the Mariners here in the Al West?
• 50:25
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean these two teams are actually tied in
• 50:26
  Speaker 11: the standing is about four weeks ago and the Rangers
• 50:30
  Speaker 11: are ripped off eighteen and twenty nine. Very impressive sweep
• 50:34
  Speaker 11: over the weekend in Toronto. Is the Jays are trying
• 50:35
  Speaker 11: to get their season together and you know, coming off
• 50:37
  Speaker 11: an Ale pennant, the Rangers had basically bottom ten everything
• 50:42
  Speaker 11: through May twenty eighth, and their top ten everything. Now
• 50:44
  Speaker 11: everybody's playing better. The rotation has been absolutely fantastic. The bullpen,
• 50:48
  Speaker 11: which is really a concern, has been good. Jacob last
• 50:50
  Speaker 11: at a cheating saved last night. Nobody does that anymore.
• 50:53
  Speaker 11: You know, Hell's is concerned for them. You know cors Se,
• 50:55
  Speaker 11: who's been out of the lineup, why at length has
• 50:57
  Speaker 11: been in out of the lineup. I think they're gonna
• 50:59
  Speaker 11: have to go out and get some back. But this
• 51:00
  Speaker 11: is a team that I thought would be the sixth
• 51:02
  Speaker 11: playoff team in the AL and they're basically playing almost
• 51:05
  Speaker 11: exactly to my expectations, which isn't I don't mean to
• 51:07
  Speaker 11: put that on me, but just to say that this
• 51:10
  Speaker 11: is the team I thought they could be.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Wait a second, did you tell me someone can do
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: a two inning save in today's baseball In the year
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. Did you just say that out loud?
• 51:19
  Speaker 11: Well, some of it is accessively right, Skip Schumacher doesn't
• 51:21
  Speaker 11: really have that one three out guy. Antonio, not Antonio.
• 51:25
  Speaker 11: Robert Cia hasn't been that guy. Chris Martin's on and
• 51:28
  Speaker 11: off the roster. So he's using lats in this original way,
• 51:31
  Speaker 11: and I love to see it. You love to see
• 51:32
  Speaker 11: creativity in the bullpen. What happens, unfortunately too often is
• 51:36
  Speaker 11: a manager will start out using his reliever this way,
• 51:39
  Speaker 11: and if the reliever pitches really well, they'll just say, okay, well,
• 51:43
  Speaker 11: now he's got to be my one ending closer in
• 51:44
  Speaker 11: the night. Then you just kind to lose that flexibility.
• 51:47
  Speaker 11: I mentioned that because talk about the Astros. Josh Hater
• 51:50
  Speaker 11: and Milwaukee started out as a two inning guy, and
• 51:53
  Speaker 11: over time he's just become this one inning save specialist.
• 51:56
  Speaker 11: Since he came off the IL, he's actually been incredible.
• 52:00
  Speaker 11: Writeouts against seven base runners in twelve minutes. And it
• 52:03
  Speaker 11: coincides with this great run by the by the Astros.
• 52:05
  Speaker 11: It's not just having the guy in the ninth inning.
• 52:07
  Speaker 11: It lines up the rest of what is a pretty
• 52:09
  Speaker 11: thin bullton that meer. Brian Brader got off to a
• 52:11
  Speaker 11: terrible start starting about Ammuel Del Santos and aj Blue Bogs.
• 52:15
  Speaker 11: A lot of very mediocre arms there, but if you
• 52:17
  Speaker 11: have those guys in lower leverage by steps with Hater
• 52:20
  Speaker 11: taking the ninth inning, it helps. It helps you in
• 52:24
  Speaker 11: each of those earlier innings. And that's one of the
• 52:26
  Speaker 11: reasons the Astros have we good A lot of it
• 52:27
  Speaker 11: just helped. They got paying you back, they got Yaner
• 52:29
  Speaker 11: Diez back, they got Jake Myers back. They're not going
• 52:32
  Speaker 11: to get colost career back, but they're as close as
• 52:34
  Speaker 11: they're going to be to the lineup they expected to
• 52:36
  Speaker 11: have at the start of the season.
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  Speaker 1: going to get to our team and managerial decisions in
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: a second booney start by we can kind of transition
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: into Carlos Mendoza. Well, I don't know was he fired
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: by the Mets.
• 53:06
  Speaker 11: What happened there, I mean colloquially, I call it a firing.
• 53:11
  Speaker 11: Managers generally just start up and leave in the middle
• 53:13
  Speaker 11: of June. The timing was surprising to me. I thought
• 53:16
  Speaker 11: they would have fired him at the end of last
• 53:18
  Speaker 11: year when he made his pitching decisions last year may
• 53:21
  Speaker 11: have kept them out of the playoffs, but they stuck
• 53:23
  Speaker 11: with him. Then they didn't fire him that week, and
• 53:26
  Speaker 11: everybody got fired, Thompson and Cora. And then you fire
• 53:29
  Speaker 11: in June when it's too late to really save your season,
• 53:32
  Speaker 11: but it's too early to start a real Ninagerials just
• 53:35
  Speaker 11: a very strange path, and it kind of goes with
• 53:38
  Speaker 11: David Chanella. The Mets weren't bad this year because of
• 53:40
  Speaker 11: Carlos Bendedoza. David Starts had a terrible offseason, just terrible,
• 53:44
  Speaker 11: one of the worst off seasons I can remember for
• 53:45
  Speaker 11: an otherwise very good executive. Farey Colonco hasn't worked out.
• 53:50
  Speaker 11: You guys got saved there. Bobachette hasn't worked out. Luis
• 53:54
  Speaker 11: Robert trading for Lewis Robert hasn't worked out. Trendy carlt
• 53:57
  Speaker 11: hasn't worked out. But you know Mendoza wasn't the answer.
• 54:00
  Speaker 11: If he wasn't necessarily the problem, he wasn't the answer.
• 54:03
  Speaker 11: Stearns can go into this winter find the right guy.
• 54:05
  Speaker 11: I think it'll be a more experienced manager. Two of
• 54:08
  Speaker 11: the last three Mets managers have come in without experience
• 54:11
  Speaker 11: and hasn't really worked out. I think you look at
• 54:12
  Speaker 11: this veteran roster, this expensive roster, they're gonna want to
• 54:15
  Speaker 11: go out and get a guy who's got some resume.
• 54:17
  Speaker 11: I was looking and there aren't a whole lot of
• 54:19
  Speaker 11: under seventy options. You look at managers who are you know, experienced,
• 54:24
  Speaker 11: have done some winning, but are might actually be there
• 54:27
  Speaker 11: for a few years, and it's a little hard to find.
• 54:29
  Speaker 11: You've got Mike Schildt, who I don't even know if
• 54:32
  Speaker 11: he wants to come back. He's coaching.
• 54:34
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 54:35
  Speaker 11: You look at, uh, the options that you think of Baker, Yeah,
• 54:44
  Speaker 11: they're all old. They're all very old, and I don't
• 54:46
  Speaker 11: see any of them really coming back to take over
• 54:48
  Speaker 11: a job here. So you know, we'll see how it
• 54:50
  Speaker 11: how it turns out, But this is an important decision.
• 54:53
  Speaker 11: Stearns gets basically one firing and one new hire, and
• 54:56
  Speaker 11: then generally the focus turns to the.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: G pitching the decisions. Aside you wrote about his lineup
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: cards and his lineup decisions. Let's just take a bigger,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: broader view for a manager for a second, and you
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: can use Mendoza as the example. How important is like
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: in a data for a manager day to day job wise,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: filling out a lineup card and pitching decisions. Where would
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: you rank those in terms of importance one above the other?
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: And how important are those.
• 55:25
  Speaker 11: At the day to day level. Lineups are made up,
• 55:30
  Speaker 11: made out now and in conjunction with the front office.
• 55:32
  Speaker 11: I'm not going to tell you the GM writes the lineup,
• 55:34
  Speaker 11: where the stack guys write the lineup, but it's definitely
• 55:36
  Speaker 11: more of a collaborat effort than it was for most
• 55:37
  Speaker 11: of baseball history. However, I still blame the manager when
• 55:42
  Speaker 11: I see a bad lineup or a good lineup, I
• 55:43
  Speaker 11: blame or credit the manager because at the end of
• 55:45
  Speaker 11: the day, he's the guy writting it out, so he's
• 55:47
  Speaker 11: signing on these decisions that might be being made collaboratively,
• 55:50
  Speaker 11: and I was just frustrated verily. In the year Francisco
• 55:52
  Speaker 11: Alba as the catcher for the Mets, came into the
• 55:55
  Speaker 11: year something like their fourth highest projected here, and he
• 55:58
  Speaker 11: was statting nights for a month, and they were adding,
• 56:00
  Speaker 11: you know, the desiccated remnants of Marcus Semien in the
• 56:03
  Speaker 11: five spot and Luis Roder who hasn't been a good
• 56:05
  Speaker 11: hitter in three years in the seventh spot. They weren't
• 56:07
  Speaker 11: putting an optmal lineup out there. On a fundamental level,
• 56:10
  Speaker 11: you just want to make sure your better hitters get
• 56:12
  Speaker 11: more at bats and your on base percentage guys are
• 56:14
  Speaker 11: hitting against in front of your slugging guys, and Mendoza
• 56:17
  Speaker 11: was failing both of us. So yeah, that's the thing.
• 56:20
  Speaker 11: He wasn't a good manager in the dugout and there
• 56:24
  Speaker 11: was very little indication that he was a good manager,
• 56:26
  Speaker 11: you know, in the clubhouse, Like you think about a
• 56:28
  Speaker 11: guy like Dusty Baker, who wasn't a good dugout manager
• 56:30
  Speaker 11: until later in his career, but his players had enormous
• 56:33
  Speaker 11: respect and that carried the day. There was no evidence
• 56:36
  Speaker 11: that Mendoza was good at either parts of the job.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: So where does the pitching decisions in game come? Is
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: that a feel thing? Is at a and how I mean,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: because that's our one of our frustrations here in Seattle
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: right now. But if you're just looking, you know, Mendoza
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: had those issues as well. I mean seeing what their
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: team did the in the last season, and I mean
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: it was seventeen games below five hundred and the final
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: third of the year, all those things. But in terms
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: of the pitching decisions, how how much of that do
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: you think is feel talking to a pitcher looking and seeing,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean you can see things. How much
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: of it is what you just said, kind of like
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: filling out a lineup where you've got like your card
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: and it says, if this we go here, Let's start with.
• 57:13
  Speaker 11: Something more basic. It's having good relief pitchers. I know
• 57:17
  Speaker 11: you want to talk about the Mariners and I only
• 57:19
  Speaker 11: get that, but some of it is just if you
• 57:21
  Speaker 11: only have two or three good relievers, it's going to
• 57:23
  Speaker 11: be very hard to seem like a good manager. They
• 57:24
  Speaker 11: were the year Bob Milden with the Diamondbacks did a
• 57:28
  Speaker 11: perfect job of having his A bulletin and his B bullpen,
• 57:31
  Speaker 11: and it's good relievers pitched when they were winning, and
• 57:33
  Speaker 11: there's bad and it was like a perfect So the
• 57:34
  Speaker 11: bolt and statistics didn't look good, but they were winning
• 57:37
  Speaker 11: a lot of games because Melvin used them very well,
• 57:38
  Speaker 11: but nowadays a combination of front officers managers have tied
• 57:43
  Speaker 11: their hands. Even though you're carrying eight believers, like three
• 57:46
  Speaker 11: of them aren't going to be leverage anyway, sometimes more
• 57:48
  Speaker 11: than that. But it's also you never want to use
• 57:51
  Speaker 11: guys for three straight innings, three straight games, like god,
• 57:53
  Speaker 11: that must never happens anymore. And you remember every day Eddie.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: Gordada, right, yes, oh god, yes, yes, that.
• 58:00
  Speaker 11: Doesn't exist anymore. I want to say, no picture is
• 58:03
  Speaker 11: pitched on four straight days this year, and maybe a
• 58:06
  Speaker 11: dozen times somebody's pitched on three straight. It doesn't even
• 58:09
  Speaker 11: back to back. Manager, you don't like to these their
• 58:10
  Speaker 11: guys on back to back if they can avoid it.
• 58:11
  Speaker 11: So if you've used the guy the day before and
• 58:13
  Speaker 11: you're tied in the seventh, you might try to pick
• 58:16
  Speaker 11: somebody else. There's also the thing where managers don't like
• 58:19
  Speaker 11: to glick guys get up and down. This is my
• 58:20
  Speaker 11: pet peeve. A pitcher comes in, has a seven pitch
• 58:24
  Speaker 11: seventh inning and then gets taken out. The guy through more.
• 58:27
  Speaker 11: He'd need more effort warming up for the outing than
• 58:29
  Speaker 11: he did the outing itself. But we've got this thing
• 58:31
  Speaker 11: now where no, you pitch your one inning and you
• 58:33
  Speaker 11: and you come out, so it's tying your own hands
• 58:37
  Speaker 11: and then that gets into the depth. So every situation
• 58:39
  Speaker 11: with the Mariners where you're missing a critical piece of
• 58:42
  Speaker 11: this bullpen and Matt Rush, Matt Brash is really one
• 58:46
  Speaker 11: of the great projectives, one of the best athenning guys
• 58:48
  Speaker 11: in the majors, and they back them up to Andres
• 58:49
  Speaker 11: Munyas will take him out of the equation. Now, okay, well,
• 58:52
  Speaker 11: how do I deploy Edward Bizarre? How do I deploy
• 58:55
  Speaker 11: jose Frare my third with Krisroil my third writing and
• 58:58
  Speaker 11: fourth writ ere Guys, I've ever heard of Tucker blew
• 59:01
  Speaker 11: the game the other day. He's a Cubs reject, And
• 59:03
  Speaker 11: I got to be honest, you, I don't remember where
• 59:05
  Speaker 11: Josh Josh Wilson came from. But these are the guys
• 59:06
  Speaker 11: who blew the game in the eighth inning because there
• 59:08
  Speaker 11: was nobody else avail. So it's it's much about having
• 59:11
  Speaker 11: five guys to rely on. And you look at some
• 59:14
  Speaker 11: of the better vullpens out there, and it's not just
• 59:16
  Speaker 11: about managerial decisions. It's the manager can make a bad
• 59:19
  Speaker 11: decision if everybody he picks has a two point zero
• 59:22
  Speaker 11: fIF and a thirty percent trick.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: Well, and that's Josh and joining us. That's the thing
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: I can We'll get to Dan because I mean there's
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Dan Wilson's under after Sunday and really throughout the year
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: there's been a lot of a lot of heat on
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Dan Wilson. UH local newspaper wrote an article today that
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: was basically, I mean, I sometimes feel like it's written
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: by a pr staff, but they're they're singing his praises
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: and everyone else in town is like questioning it. I
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: look at it from this standpoint, and you said it, well,
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: it starts with having good relievers. Not having Matt Brash
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: is a massive, massive detriment to this team. Now, it
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean they'd have a new, a different, high leverage,
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: leverage guy to use as opposed to the two guys
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: they use the thinking that no one's ever heard of
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: the other day, But Joe, when you have a six
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: man rotation, that's also one less bullpen bullpen arm right,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: So like they're also kind of hurting themselves in that regard.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 11: Well, let's get into the whole six man is shit.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 11: It's funny there I can't remember very many teams that
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 11: had more starters, more good starters than good relievers in
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 11: recent times, and the Mariners are one of them. And
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 11: you know, one when Castile wasn't pitching well, I talked
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 11: about putting him in the bullpen and just letting him
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 11: air it out.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm e ot of time.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 11: But for a minute it looked like they were going
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 11: to do that, And now they've got this weird tandem thing.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 11: I don't know that that ports to a multi pan.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 11: What the narrators really need is a backgrash type. The
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 11: guy's going to come in and get you fifteen pitches
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 11: in the eighth inning. I don't know if I want
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 11: to take any of those starters and ask him to
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 11: become that guy. That's a really hard job to shift
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 11: to in the middle of the season. What the Mariners
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 11: need they don't have. But okay, do you look into
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 11: the market. That's the thing I mentioned Castillo enough pitching.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 6: Well.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 11: The Mariners have six starters, and Castillo's ear is colanslated hips,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 11: which is a better measure of pitching a three point
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 11: nine to three or lower. They have six guys pitching
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 11: to the level of a number three starter or better,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 11: and they have like one relyable two reliable repeters. It's
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 11: a very strange fix.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 11: You know, it's hard to make this kind of trading
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 11: in season, but something's got to give you. I don't
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 11: think you can continue to do this tandem thing. And
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 11: it's almost like they're waiting for somebody to get hurt.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 11: Nobody's getting hurt. The stupid guys pictures get on every
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 11: we like the Dodger pictures, get unhealthy, hurt something. But
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 11: it's really a remarkable story. And you know we're going
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 11: to fill solve this trade deadline. They're obviously going to
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 11: go out into the market. I think the Anderson Sloan
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 11: question assassinating because they are starters. But you know Anderson,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 11: of course is just ripping things up. And then Sloan
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 11: slow in a four era, but he's a six to
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 11: one strike out to Walker. You know, want a thirty
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 11: percent strikeout rate. Like both of these guys can go
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 11: into your bull picked out. That's a tough thing to
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 11: do to your starter, your projected starter, but that's a
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 11: more traditional way of getting your young pictures to the
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 11: majors than asking a twelve year veteran to go the eathening.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: That well, like Sloan and Anderson like for those guys.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't it just you're not going to start this year
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: in Seattle and you've got all off season spring training
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: to ramp up, don't you If you want to keep
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: them as a starter next year. For some reason they
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: find their way into the rotation. It just they have
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: to be better options than the guys are throwing out
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: there right now.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 11: I would like to see them in multi ending roles.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 11: I don't want to see them. Maybe it gets in
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 11: the postseason.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: You obviously have been changed.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 11: But what you don't want to do.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 6: Is deload them.
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  Speaker 11: And I'm gonna shaut On will Carroll here, but you know,
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  Speaker 11: when you have a guy who's used to throwing seventy
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  Speaker 11: five eighty eighty five pitches every fifth day, asking them
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  Speaker 11: to throw twenty five deloads them and makes them less
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 11: able to throw those seventy eighty pitches, And again, can
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  Speaker 11: we do this slide them down? He's probably not going
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  Speaker 11: to go go through a full season anyway. Maybe they
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 11: should make this part of the process, but it's not
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 11: as simple as you were throwing seventy five. Now you
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  Speaker 11: throw twenty five and then we'll ramp you back up
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  Speaker 11: to seventy five. There is a little bit of cost there,
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  Speaker 11: but you've got to weigh all the factors, right. The
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  Speaker 11: example I always go back to is Jarrett right in
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 11: nineteen Lady seven. I want to say with the with
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  Speaker 11: the then Indians, pitcher ended up for a ton of
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  Speaker 11: innings going through the postseason in an effort to win
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 11: the World Series. The end goal here isn't to nurture
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 11: pitchers to full health and free agency. The end goal
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 11: is to win a championship. That doesn't mean you abuse
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  Speaker 11: the pitchers. But if you have these guys that can
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  Speaker 11: fill a role that you need in your effort to
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 11: win the World Series, you find a way to make
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 11: that work. Kate Anderson, Roger Sloane, every pitch they throw
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 11: right now is being wasted.
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  Speaker 1: I agree, And I want to go back to you
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  Speaker 1: mentioned the throw ten pitches and then or seven pitches
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  Speaker 1: and then don't come out from it. That's what they
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  Speaker 1: did with Bizarto the other day, and that's that's what
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  Speaker 1: that's when sent people nuts. And you know Dan's Dan
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  Speaker 1: Wilson was kind of the crosshairs of many people in
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: a shocking development. Your friend Chris Crawford and Nathan Bishop
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: yesterday in their crosshairs and others and others as well. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: but that's probably a decision made above Dan Wilson.
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  Speaker 11: Right, No, a decision that would have been made by
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  Speaker 11: twenty seven or twenty eight other managers. This is just
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  Speaker 11: the way bullpens are run right now. Manager, we've decided
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 11: in the baseball industry that updowns are bads with pitchers.
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  Speaker 6: That's what it is.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 11: Dan Wilson didn't do anything that other managers wouldn't done.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 11: He uses best available right hander to get the key
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 11: outs in the in the six because that's those are
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 11: key outs, and he figured I'll figure it out later. Now,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 11: let's get back to what part of this is, which
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 11: is it'd be nice if the Marriagers have got to
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 11: score eight runs. We're focusing so much today on a
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  Speaker 11: pitching staff for a team that is the fifth worst
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 11: offense in baseball in June. You know, a lot of
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 11: this the pitching when you're not scoring, when you're scoring,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 11: when they go twelve games without get into four.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Runs, they went twelve straight three runs or less.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 11: Yep, Right, that's you end up focusing a lot on
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 11: the pitching then, because every decision has so much meaning.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 11: But maybe don't maybe score four runs in a game
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 11: take some of the pressure off. I think this is
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  Speaker 11: and Dan Wilson. I can't blame Dan Wilson for that.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 11: Then when I used today have very little to do
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 11: with like the performance of the offense. It's just it's
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 11: not part of the job. They have coaches and technology,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 11: and I just can't really blame Dan Wilson for that.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 11: I will say this, how much of what we're talking
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 11: about today goes back to using Bizarro against short Springer
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 11: last year.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: It goes one hundred percent back to it percent.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 11: He's just never going to He's just never going to
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 11: be forgiven for that. So every pitching decision now, people
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 11: are still mad about what happened.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Until he wins a World Series or if he wins
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: a World Series, and even then people will still look
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: back on that. Well, right, I mean, but you brought
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: I'll wrap up this because you brought the offense. I
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: do want to we're running out time, but I don't
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: want to get to this because we brought it up
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: yesterday with Chris and Nate. I mean, if you just
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: look at the splits in June, Col's been awful, and really,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: if we're being honest, cal Rawley has not been good
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: all year. In fact, you want to go back to
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic, he wasn't good there. He wasn't good
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: to spring training. He wasn't good before he went on
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: the injury list. He hasn't been good since he came
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: off the injured list. His slugging percentage is abysmal. The
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: only thing keeping him afloat is he's walked a few
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: times since coming back. And Julio has an awful first
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: month of the season. He has a really strong May,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: and he's had a really brutal June as well. And Joe, I,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: this is me way over simplifying. If that's why I've
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: got you on the air to help me out with
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: these things. My oversimplification is, Man, if Julio, Rodriguez and
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: cal Raley are not hitting, I think as a Mariner's team,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: you're probably gonna be in a little bit of trouble.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 11: Yeah, even the guys that haven't hitting are hurt. Dominic Canzone,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 11: he's at the injury now. He's been their best entner
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 11: in June of Cole Young in the Big Day yesterday,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 11: cold Emerson got off to the great start. He slipt
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 11: a little bit. I feel like we talk about this
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 11: with Julio every year. I'm going to read you two numbers, okay, yep.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 11: The first is is wOBA waited on beas average. We
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 11: use it all the time. It's how good a hitter
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 11: have you been? It's two eighty six in June is
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 11: expected wolba, which is what your WOGA would be if
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 11: you've got fair results on all your bad in balls.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 11: It's three seventy nine. So I feel like we had
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 11: this conversation in June every year that Juliard Riguaez is
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 11: hitting the ball just fine and getting bad results. But
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 11: hitting Juliardriguez is hitting the ball just fine and getting
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 11: bad results. I'm sorry, man, it's just put the numbers, Joe.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: That's great context. So it's there. He's just been for
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: lack of a better turn. You call bad results, I'd say,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: just unlucky.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 11: I don't like people react funny when you talk about luck,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 11: like they're just saying, oh, everybody's just lucky. But that
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 11: is something about baseball, right, go back to Field of dreams, bulldoor,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 11: you get one ground ball. You can get a ground
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 11: ball with us. That's what baseball is. Sometimes they fallen
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 11: and sometimes they don't. Juli Rodriguez when he hits the
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 11: ball's hitting is having one of the best months in baseball,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 11: and everything is finding a glove.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: I like that because of this, And that's the beauty thing.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: Beautiful thing about baseball is how many times you see
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: a guy just lace one down the right field line
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: or the left field line, and by two inches it's foul.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: If it's two inches the other way, it's a double.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: Maybe spring scores two or three like that's that is luck.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: It's a it's a batted ball that sometimes finds a spot.
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  Speaker 1: Especially wait for a Joe in a in a sport
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, going up there, I was more nervous to walk
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  Speaker 1: How much baseball do you have in your background?
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  Speaker 13: I played baseball a little bit growing up. I was
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  Speaker 13: a catcher, and yeah, that's it's about all I got.
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  Speaker 13: It wasn't the best hitter though, so we stuck to catching.
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  Speaker 1: But yet, how much did baseball kind of help you
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  Speaker 1: develop your game as a hockey player.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean I think it just gave me something
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  Speaker 1: So it was super good.
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  Speaker 13: And I mean eventually at some point you got to.
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  Speaker 13: So I did that about two years ago, and I
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, I think just being able to do anything just
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  Speaker 1: A little bit. Now, you mentioned golf as well. What's
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  Speaker 1: the lowest round out that you've ever shot? On eighteen?
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  Speaker 13: I think I shot seventy one, so one under.
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  Speaker 1: I hate the kid already. Of course, Mike had to
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  Speaker 1: Please like the second? Minute chill all right downline joined
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  Speaker 1: us right, now fresh off doing radio somewhere, else parts
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  Speaker 1: on known national. Radio whatever he's. Doing he's a busy.
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  Speaker 1: Guy apparently people are bothering. Him are you coming On
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  Speaker 1: ian show? Today is that What i'm?
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  Speaker 6: Hearing, Yeah i'm ready to.
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  Speaker 11: Go i'm.
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  Speaker 14: ROCKET i did a show that was three to six
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  Speaker 14: am national.
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  Speaker 6: This, morning and THEN i just did a local show
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  Speaker 6: and That Now i'm ready and my highlight has been,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 6: you by the way soccer really. Quickly an old friend
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 6: of all of, Ours Colin. Cowherd have you ever heard
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 6: him try to talk?
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 14: Soccer this is kind of a thing that's going on
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 14: with his national hosts so.
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  Speaker 6: FUNNY i can HEAR i can hear them reading CHAT.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 14: Gpt like it's just like and they're not.
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  Speaker 6: Changing what it's. Saying so there's Like i'm just listening
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 6: Watching colin during break AND i was laughing so hard
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 6: because him And Nick wright are trying to talk. Soccer
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 6: and the thing Is fox is making them talk, soccer
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 6: LIKE i can't believe they just Work, lebron you, know
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 6: wall to. Wall lebron's going somewhere, Else Lebron lebron like
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 6: ESPN's just there's NO nba free. Agency it's Just lebron,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 6: agency Like lebron free. Agency but But fox has the
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 6: soccer and so they're forcing guys on that channel to
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 6: talk about, soccer and they're trying to intricately talk. Soccer
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 6: i'm not going to sit here and tell YOU i
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 6: can talk about, it BUT i, can you, KNOW i
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 6: can observe about it and all that kind of. Thing
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 6: by the, WAY i lived In seattle as a. YOUTH
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 6: i was on a team called The Seattle. Sting we
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 6: went Through. CANADA i was the. GOALIE i know soccer a,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 6: little BUT i can't sit here and talk. It but
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 6: When colin tries TO i it is so if you want,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 6: comedic have a, drink get it, ready and then just
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 6: Watch colin try to talk soccer and you sit there
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 6: like are didn't back?
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 14: Line i'm, like shut, up, man you don't know.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 6: Anything he's like reading it.
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  Speaker 1: Off.
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  Speaker 6: Cheat it is so funny Because fox has the, game so, like,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 6: okay our hosts have to talk about, it and Like
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 6: Nick wright is dying to talk About Lebron, Lebron, Lebron, Lebron,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 6: lebron and they're forcing them to talk soccer and it's
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 6: may be the worst Thing i've ever heard because they
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 6: don't have a clue what they're talking.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: About it's, True it's true BECAUSE i have my little
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: soccer fan. HERE i can talk. Soccer hopefully that you guys.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: Can you can and you do good. Job, Right, well
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: you're answering coverage for one hundred stations across the. COUNTRY i,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: hope LIKE i really hope you know what you're talking.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: About.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well and on one, Level i'm happy that you,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: know the mainstream sports media people are trying to do.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: It but at the same, TIME i have seen like
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: the memes of all of The british people, saying, like
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: what are These american radio people talking about when they.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: When they talk it's so. Funny, Well collin's a he's
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: a two trick. Pony He's Lebron james AND. Nfl that's. It,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah Lebron james AND. Nfl that's. It and by the, way,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: Listen I'm i'm as excited as anybody That lebron's given
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: the middle finger to The. Lakers but is this going
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: to be a national nightmare now waiting for him to sign? Somewhere, yeah,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: well a couple of different.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 14: Things it's going to be a national nightmare because.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 6: It's all anybody's talking. About and then the second thing
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 6: is whatever, team which is probably been A Golden, state
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 6: it's going to be here in The Bay. Area and
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 6: the REASON i say that is because we all know.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 6: This let's be, honest it's. Not everything is obviously on
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 6: the up and, Up Like durant made a ton of
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 6: tech money here in The Bay, area And Steve kerr.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: Has all these.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 6: Guys they get him hooked up with all these, guys
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 6: and especially as hot AS ai is right, now they
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 6: get them connected with these companies and you know what's
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 6: led By Steve young has a huge financial. Company you,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 6: know Smart steve is when he could have been a
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 6: lawyer or. Whatever and they get him connected to the right.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 6: People and it's not that it's Replacing, hollywood it's, not
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 6: but it's just these guys are a little bit smarter.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 6: Nowadays not everybody's gonna be an actor or rapper or
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 6: something like. That and so what they do is they
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 6: get him hooked up with these people up in The
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 6: Bay area and they make a lot of. Money so
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 6: that fifteen million dollars mid level THAT i Hope Lebron
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 6: james can get by. On, MAN i mean things are expensive.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 6: NOWADAYS i don't know if he can get by on fifteen. Million.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 6: Wow but he'll turn that fifty fifteen into you, know
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 6: thirty by the end of the.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 14: Season SO i fully expect him to sign A Golden.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 6: State but then the biggest problem for there BECOMES Espn
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 6: miles will just have you, know whatever it, is the
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 6: ojo and just make it The lebron. Channel and remember
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 6: when they used to follow Around Barry, bonds you follow Around, lebron.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: Right the Late Pedro gomez was the, guy, Right, yeah.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 6: He was what an incredible, guy But, yeah it's just
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 6: it's and we're all just gonna get bombarded with. It you,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 6: know they only talk like three topics on those shows,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 6: anyway like The, Cowboys Dak, prescott you know, whatever and you,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 6: know like three, topics and it's just gonna be Like
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 6: lebron's gonna need his own channel when he's on The.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: Warriors my, god, WELL i just want him to go
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: somewhere where they make sure we JUST i really don't
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: care as long as he goes somewhere that's ready made
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: to win and we don't have to worry About Oklahoma
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: city again next. Year that's ALL i care, About.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: Like just make that.
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  Speaker 6: Happen, yeah that's a good.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: Call just make that, happen, Right, YEAH i just no
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: need to worry about those. Guys along the, way you
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: wrote a great article For Barrett, media WHICH i loved
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: because we talked about this last. Week so and, here
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: by the, way do you know this is the second to,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: last more than likely the second to LAST nba draft Without.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: Seattle we should have the twenty twenty eight draft should BE.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: Us so absolutely one thing that fans when they do
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: re engage with THE nba and THE nba draft here
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: in a couple of, Years seattle. Fans unless something, changes
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: it's still going to watch the most dysfunctional draft in
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: all of. Sports.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, well they've complicated the league so much in
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 6: the you, know sixty five game. Rules people are complaining
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 6: about that because it's you, know you can't get the.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 6: Awards you have to play sixty five games to then
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 6: be first, team second, team third Team ALL, nba which
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 6: then that ties into your contract of you know what
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 6: kind of money you can get if you can, Track
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 6: oh you work ALL, nba then you can't get a
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 6: back to.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 14: Contract like it's the it's the stupidest.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 6: Thing and then it's, like, oh we've got to worry
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 6: about the team's tanking at the, bottom so we're going
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 6: to put playoff teams into the. Lottery like they just
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 6: make things so much more. Complicated what if IF i were,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 6: them might be, like what does THE nfl? Do it's
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 6: the number one sport with a Bullet it's they do
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 6: everything suc seemingly. Right they have an offseason that's not
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 6: really an off.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 14: Season what do they?
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 6: Do, oh they just draft players and it's to the worst. Team,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 6: oh they just you, know it's just so.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 14: Simple in THE nfl versus what THE nba.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 6: Does they're just it's so it's in the style of
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 6: play and everything, else but that.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 14: Aside, okay then what they do is.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 6: Rather than THE nfl that when you make a, trade
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 6: it flashes right up on the. Screen it's the same,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 6: network it's the. Sting it flashes up on the. Screen
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 6: you know who's going to make the. Pick you're akoupo
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 6: the day before the, draft gets traded To. Miami but
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 6: they have picked thirteen and they haven't even changed it.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 6: Yet so the kids going To milwaukee native meant he's
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 6: A ford out Of, tennessee the kids going To, milwaukee
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 6: but he's got A miami heat head, on and it's,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 6: LIKE i don't, know could there be any two different?
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 6: PLACES i, mean either going To South beach or you're
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 6: gonna go freeze your ass, Off like not very big
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 6: of a. Difference so then the kid has a hat
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 6: that he never played for a. Team and this is
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 6: an amazing. Number they had sixty picks in the. Draft
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 6: forty four of the sixty picks in THE Nba draft were,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 6: traded including every pick but one in the second. Round
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 6: and then so what they're doing is all these kids
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 6: are wearing draft hats that they don't they're not even
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 6: gonna play for the. Teams there was a kid at
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 6: A baylor Named Cameron carr who got picked by The,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 6: knicks and the draft is In New, york it's In,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 6: brooklyn and he mouthed to the camera that you can see.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: It i've been.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 6: Traded he got traded to The lakers and he didn't even.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 6: Know so here you are as a fan trying to
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 6: stay up with the draft and they're Insider Sam sharania
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 6: is telling the, guys you, know a pick or two, Later,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 6: oh this is the. Pick, oh this is where this
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 6: guy is. Going and you're trying to stay up with,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 6: it and it's, like how about you just do what
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 6: THE nfl, does which is the, pick the trade is,
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 6: announced the pick has, made the player is going to
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 6: the right. Team that, like what what are you? Doing,
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 6: well it's it's just it's. There their whole league is
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 6: just so much more complicated than it has to.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: Be why you, know it's odd about this and it's
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: JUST i, mean first of, all you got a zero commissioner,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: still and that that's part of the.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 6: Problem you want to complain about all, Yeah Adam silver
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 6: is just A i, mean he has the personality with door,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 6: knob like he's just here is the next. Pick it's, like,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 6: DUDE i, MEAN i, look people Hate. CADELL i get,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 6: it but he embraces the. Boo he he's part of the.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 6: Deal he hugs the guys like at least he gets.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 6: IT i, mean this guy is like the nerdiest of.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: NERDS i just don't get. WHY i don't get. Why
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: like YOUR tv partner IT'S, Espn, like why is YOUR tv?
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: Partner say, listen you just fix?
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 6: This?
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: Please this is. Dumb no one wants to watch. It
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: we don't. Know it's, confusing like why do just? Fix
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: and for those that want to, say, well like, oh
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: the league year begins On july, First well then the
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: very next night THE nhl had their draft and their
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: league gear, breathing the same thing begins On july. First
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: but you know, what all throughout that first round we
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: see like all of a, sudden big red than Is
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: actually they kind of did it. Cool they had this
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: big red screen and it said trade alert like a
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: like a goldhorn kind of and Like Gary bett would
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: have come, out we have a trade to. Announce we
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: have a trade to, announce and it's like soles already, new,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: right but at we, see oh, okay, cool we got
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: a trade to. Announce and so then the kid goes
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: up there and gets his jersey and it's a jersey
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: of wait for, it the team he got drafted. By
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: it's a weird. CONCEPT i just thought it was amazing
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: THE nfl did.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 6: That, well you know, what you AND. I you AND
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 6: i have done this for a really long. Time and
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 6: one of the things that they tell you in this
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 6: business is like day one or one on one kind of, stuff,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 6: radio one on one kind of, stuff is they use.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 6: It they use, this keep it, simple stupid kiss. Ye
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 6: and you're told throughout your entire. Career, simple, simple, simple simple.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 6: Simple you, know you don't want to be bombarding people
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 6: with kiss and this and that and make them fall.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 6: Along it's it's known in our, business our communication, business
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 6: that the minute you start confusing the, consumer the, listener
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 6: the person watching the, show the minute you confuse, them they're.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 6: Gone we've got a million other things we could be.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 6: Watching and so THE nba confuses the viewer the consumer
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 6: again again and again and, again AND i JUST i
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 6: don't understand, it and it may not seem like a big,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 6: deal but when you're trying to consume that product and
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 6: you don't know where players are, going and there's a
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 6: player that just got drafted who doesn't even know where he's,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 6: going then you're doing it. Wrong and it's such a simple,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 6: fix but it's a symptom of a much bigger problem
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 6: because the, league for some, reason with its you, know
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 6: with its nerdy, commissioner makes everything so much more complicated
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 6: than it has to. Be you, know like when you
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 6: When seattle re enters the league here in a couple
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 6: of years after they steal The blazers or whatever because
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 6: their owners a. Jackass it's just it's so difficult to
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 6: follow this whole process, along and they to have it
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 6: seems that they have zero common. Sense AND i think
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 6: for all, consumers no matter what we're talking, about confusion
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 6: just creates the hell with. It i'm just not going
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 6: to deal with.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: It Let's John lynn joining, Us all, right let's let's
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: just continue to rip on THE. Nba what the? Hell but,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: well let's do the. Team. Yes, so for those who,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: Know john AND i both worked at separate, times but
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: both during the Jail blazers era In. Portland m, hm
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: and like, god there's so much going on down there right.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: Now you you kind of, is let's start there first
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: BEFORE i get to the, trade because the trade's. Hilarious
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: it's just it's absolutely. Hysterical the uh, So, now the,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: Owner Tom, dundon doesn't want to put one sent into
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: The Rose garden or The Motus, center, right the hell's call?
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 4: These?
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: Hease now in his, defense the city owns the. Building
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: he doesn't own the, building like you, know it's not
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: like when we Were Aaron Paul. Allen he doesn't, know
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: BUT i don't want to put one sent into. It
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: the city seems to be kind of pushing back now
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: in all, seriousness how concerned should they be In? Portland
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: they're going to move that team to Say, nashville because
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: that's where he'd probably want to take.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 6: It, yeah, well doesn't it seem like AND i don't
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 6: want to dredge up old wounds, here but it is
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 6: a lot like what the group did when they have The,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 6: sonics and like from day, One.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: Cyton bennett, Player yeah it.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 6: Is it just seems like from day, one and it reminds,
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 6: me you, know and if you don't relate to, that
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 6: or you don't want to go back and remember.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 14: That AND i understand why fans. Wouldn't it's like the
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 14: Movie Major. League it just seems like to me.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 6: Like you're just doing everything you can to alienate people
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 6: to not be, there to you, know to get them
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 6: out of there so that you can financially. Gain AND
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 6: i the fact that they approved this guy is unbelievable
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 6: to me because he just doesn't seem to have two
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 6: nickels to rub. Together he doesn't seem prepared to do.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 6: THIS i get, it he owns AN nhl, team but
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 6: it's just it's far, different and it's unfortunate because In
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 6: portland you know, this and a lot of people In
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 6: seattle know. This most sports fans.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 14: Do, look it's a passionate.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 6: Fan base and they deserve their team and you shouldn't
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 6: pull them. Away AND i thought When David stern was
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 6: live that they said, that you, know we don't want
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 6: to be moving. Teams but it just certainly seems like
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 6: he just grabbed this thing from day one with the
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 6: first and foremost plan of let's move this team and
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 6: let's just alienate. Everybody BECAUSE i get, it you hit
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 6: it right on the. Head it's six hundred thousand, dollars, which.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: By the, way to, him he's got that six hundred.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 6: Million ye six, sorry six hundred. Million but the thing
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 6: is is, that, look we can't continue to and this
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 6: is just our. Country this Isn't. Portland you, Know i'm In.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 6: California you can't get anything done In. California there's just no.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 6: Way that's Why oakland has. Left that's why The giants
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 6: built their own. Stadium the forty nine ers built their
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 6: own stadium that was not there was no there were
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 6: no taxes involved in any of, this and the rest
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 6: of the states in our country are doing the same. Thing,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 6: look we're not paying for a billionaire to build something
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 6: that's going to make him more, money a lot more.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 6: Money it's not the way that that things are going.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 6: Nowadays there's other things people every. Prioritized not to say
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 6: that sports is not, important it's very. Important but for
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 6: him to not think that he has got to put
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 6: money in this in the place that his team plays
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 6: and so, forth is. Ridiculous and he's to, me he's
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 6: only doing this, because like you, said it's The Clay bennett,
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 6: playbook and he's trying to get The blazers out Of
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 6: portland to a place that he would.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: Prefer do you think there's a better chance that they
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: move to a city not Named, seattle or To seattle Or?
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 6: VEGAS i, mean, initially you know this better THAN i.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 6: WOULD i, mean, initially it'd be real easy to move
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 6: him To, seattle BUT.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's any appetite because he would own the.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: TEAM i don't think it would Be. SEATTLE i think
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: it would have to Be, yeah you have To. NASHVILLE
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: i think it'd have to Be nashville because he would
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: have to go through the least agreement with the people
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: to run the building up here in the crack and
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: stuff like. That nashville would concern, me, MAN i swear
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: that that would be a concern for me IF i
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: Was portland right. Now they signed a coach to a
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: one year, Contract, like how unheard of is that in THE?
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 6: Nba, well that's the exact same. Thing it's just you,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 6: know we we're going to see what certainty. Is you
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 6: wouldn't you wouldn't normally do that kind of. Thing But
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 6: i'm with. YOU i think what's gonna happen In seattle
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 6: And vegas IS i think there's gonna be expansion teams,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 6: there at least that's What i've. Heard i've talked to
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 6: a number of people about, it AND i think that
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 6: in both of those, cities in your city and In,
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 6: VEGAS i think they're gonna bring those in, together AND
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 6: i think they're gonna bring those in as expansion. Teams
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 6: and THEN i very much, fear just like you, do
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 6: that they're going to move The, blazers that they're that
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 6: given what this owner is. Doing and LIKE i, SAID
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 6: i don't understand how the rest of the owners could
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 6: do that because and now having said, that owners want
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 6: what they, want and if a guy wants to move
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 6: the here's the. Thing owners aren't against that because they
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 6: want to if their city is not treating them to their,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 6: level which is give me a bunch of free. Right
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 6: they want the leverage to be able to move. Themselves
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 6: so they're never going to stop a. Team but they
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 6: had to have, known, RIGHT i, mean he hasn't owned
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 6: the team very. Long they had to have known that
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 6: that's what he was up. To but then that goes
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 6: back to when you sell the, team did you bet
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 6: the owner as a as a person selling the, team
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 6: and obviously it's the same people who own The. Seahawks
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 6: did you did you bet the the people and explain
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 6: to them, that, look we want that In. Portland we
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 6: want this team to be In portland or is it
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 6: the owner, Says, LOOK i can do WHATEVER i. WANT
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 6: i ponied up the money to, THIS i can put
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 6: this team WHEREVER i.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: Want, well at least at least they're standing on. Brand
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: and going back to the Jail, blazers you go Get John.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: MORANT i mean he's had more gun charges than points
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: the last couple of, years, Right, SO i, mean what.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: The HELL i like?
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 6: That, yeah it's IT'S i guess the upside would be
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 6: if you're sitting In portland or if you're you know
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 6: what The blazers is that you didn't give up much
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 6: of a.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 14: RISK i mean you you look at a situation where.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 6: They didn't Want Jeremy grant. Anyway murray was in there
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 6: just to make the salaries match and if the guy doesn't,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 6: work and then it's some sun, costs but not a.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 6: Ton SO i kind of get. That they obviously have
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 6: HAVE i think who knows with the way that that
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 6: organization is being run now you have to think that
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 6: they've got another move in. Place so they do that
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 6: one because now they have you, know four guards and
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 6: games back, there they're undersized in the back. COURT i
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 6: guess that like they had McCollum And lillard and it
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 6: didn't work their, prime so they just thought they'd go
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 6: with two small guards again to just double check that
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 6: it's not going to. Work but like you, Said i've
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 6: been trying to explain this to, people and you, Know
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 6: portland and most people In, Seattle New, portland it's. Different
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 6: and so For John morant to go, THERE i just
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 6: don't think it's a great landing spot for him because
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 6: there's a lot of you, know he's gonna get. Bored
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 6: it's it takes a lot of get used to if
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 6: you're from, there if you understand. It it's it's one
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 6: thing people try to tell, Me, Well memphis is kind
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 6: of the same. Thing it's. Not portland is itself and
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 6: players there under a microscope big, time and so if
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 6: he has any small, transgressions it's gonna get blown into
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 6: a lot of. THINGS i JUST i think, overall When
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 6: i've taken a chance On Ja, morant at some point somewhere,
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 6: YEAH i can see a team doing that because it
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 6: costs you very little pennies on the. Dollar BUT i
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 6: don't Think portland's a great fit for this.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: Guy, NO i would. Agree it just seems it seems
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: like a no go along the. WAY i, mean it's
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: just a.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 14: What a?
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: Night so are you watching A World? Cup are you?
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: In are you? In are you all?
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 6: In? Yeah LOOK i love.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 5: It.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah and with The national, show they're they're pressing it
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 6: as well On western you know they're SO i have
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 6: to know something about. It and, Again i'm not going
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 6: to sit here Like Colin coward and go to chat
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 6: ept and read up. Stuff we. Had we had a
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 6: guy you'll get a kick out of. This we had
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 6: a guy in this morning play by play, guy soccer
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 6: play play. GUY i, mean he's, awesome AND i got
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 6: all my notes AND i studied really hard for it
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 6: BECAUSE i didn't want to sound like a, rando you,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 6: know like the random.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 14: Guy we're like two questions.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 6: Into the interview this morning and the guy, goes, well like,
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 6: you you're a Random AND i just stopped him.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: Right in the middle Of i'm a?
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 6: Random who is who is a? Guest he's his Name's
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 6: Joe Joe marta something like.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: That he's out In New.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 6: York he does all the soccer leagues In. America he,
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 6: look he's a really good guy AND i like. Him
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 6: BUT i went off on. Him i'm, like what do you?
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 6: Mean him a? Random and we got into this whole
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 6: thing and he just finally at the end of, it he,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 6: said it's not anything you said or anything you acted.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 6: Like he, GOES i just assumed BECAUSE i just, Think
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 6: i'll all radio hosts In america are just you, know
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 6: they're just. Randoms AND i, go, Yeah i'm a, random but,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 6: LIKE i didn't give you any reason to THINK i.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: Was a, random you.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 6: Know so we got a this whole thing about, it
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 6: and then of course after you left My the THING
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 6: i did really do best is WHEN i don't have
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 6: to confront the, person THEN i rip them.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 5: More you.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 14: Know that's that's kind of WHAT i.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 6: Did but you know that kind of thing where it's,
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 6: like how dare that? Guy but but, yeah SO i
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 6: think everybody kind of does, that BUT i. DON'T i
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 6: don't try to pass myself off as. It like the
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 6: people who say, simplistically how hard is that they're kicking
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 6: the ball into a, goal.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 14: It's, like, okay, Thanks, yeah, yeah it was that.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: Easy if it was that, Easy france would already up
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: two or three nothing instead of being offside and my
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: my parlay stressing me out right, now, buddy that's. All that's.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: ALL i. Know you don't make betting.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 6: Issue you have a betting problem right.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: Now just call, me sores, me, buddy just call.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 9: Me so.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: List show if you, saw if you saw my bet
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: slips and the amount of MONEY i really don't spend on.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: It it's it's. Fine so it's It's i'm. OKAY i
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: Think i'm okay right. Now it's you know what what?
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 6: Is what? Is, yeah go ahead and make it.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: Comfortable whatever you. Wager it's got to be, comfortable that's, yeah, right.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah and soccer is, tough, man that's especially when you
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 6: get to this.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 14: Stage, yeah there's certain teams that should. Advance BUT i
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 14: mean we saw Like germany yesterday and all that. STUFF
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 14: i guess we weren't so bad.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 6: Because there's a team right there are you, know we
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 6: blew out and, uh you Know germany.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 14: Struggled the one thing is.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 6: And i'll ask you guys this because you know who
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 6: knows it would seem to. Me, Okay I'M i was a,
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 6: goaltender but it would seem to me obviously penalty, kicks
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 6: AND i, LIKE i do like. Him but yesterday With,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 6: germany it's like the one thing is a penalty, kicker
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 6: AND i get. It it's like kickers in. General you
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 6: can you, know you can have the yips or, whatever
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 6: but it's like when you put a penalty, kick you've
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 6: got to make sure it's on, goal like you just
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 6: get you, know if it gets, stopped, fine because the
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 6: goaltender is basically guessing fifty to, fifty but it's gotta
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 6: be on. Goal and like, Yesterday germany had a chance
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 6: to win it And i'm Gonna i'm gonna embellish this.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 6: Thing but it's, like you, know you missed by ten, feet, dude.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: Like you're at. It that was an, off the one
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: in the sixth.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 3: Round that was.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: Embarrassing that was. Embarrassing so you know the story behind,
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: That john And ian is.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 6: Okay that's that's WHY i want to.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 3: Know, Yes, well so you.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: Could see the captain For germany While paraguay is taking
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: its sixth penalty, kick going around to the other players, saying,
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: okay who wants to take the next. One multiple players said,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: NO i don't want. To so the guy that literally
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: in his professional career has never taken a penalty kick
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: goes up and he misses and that's the reason why they.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: Lost that's. Awful, yeah that's.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: Brutal that's the same, team by the way that in
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: The Qatar World cup in twenty twenty two, said uh,
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: yeah our bench players are going to sit inside because
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: it's too.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: Hot well, Listen, john there you. Go you got your,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: soccer you got your and just gave you your soccer
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: stuff for. Tomorrow suggest you're not just love it the
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: thing And i'll use that for.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 6: Tomorrow but here's here's what blows my mind about that mentality, Is,
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 6: look i'd be the guy to say, No i'm not
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 6: Saying i'm. Not i'd be, like are you kidding? Me
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 6: the last THING i want to do is go do,
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 6: that and then my whole country hates, me and you,
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 6: KNOW i can't go back and all that, said BECAUSE i,
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 6: Would i'd kick it twenty feet over. It but THERE'S i,
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 6: mean these are professional soccer players who are living for
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 6: the get this every four. Years he's going down the
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 6: line to.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 14: Some of the best players they have and say who
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 14: wants to kick and they're saying, no LIKE i would do.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: That, well, imagine, imagine imagine if at least he's at
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: least He's, germany, right because if it was like some
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: of these other, countries you can't go. Home oh you
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: can't go, home, Dude like you're not going. Home you're,
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: LIKE i need some political asylums and you know. What,
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: yeah we're hitting that stuff about like candy the days
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: in this. Country so it's it's easy like here in this.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: Country you get that in a, second, RIGHT i kept,
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: sure why not hang? Around all?
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 3: Right what do you want?
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: Again SO i like the fact that my listeners are bothering.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 6: You oh, yeah so real real. QUICK i, KNOW i
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 6: know you got, stuff but, real real. Quick i'm doing
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 6: the morning show this morning.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 14: On west one and like SERIOUS xm three, FIVE i
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 14: think it's. One it has to be on one of
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 14: your sister stations.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: Anyway fifty am on the nine fifty.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 14: Am so this am, show this drivetime show That i'm
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 14: THAT i fill in.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 6: For it's three to six. Am it's six to Nine
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 6: eastern and that's where they put the real talent as
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 6: Of tody fourth three o'clock in the, morning and So
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 6: i'm doing the show And I'm i'm getting calls and
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 6: we have a.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 14: Text line everything and calls and text from people.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 6: Going are you gonna be late? Today you're gonna be
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 6: on time? Today i'm, like what is? This like the cashi?
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 6: Whatever that is the? Prediction, yeah people want to know
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 6: If i'm likeing to be on time for your, Show.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 14: Like that's MAYBE i hope that's a good that's what they're.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: Asking that's a good.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 6: Thing but barded with that stuff we. Get we get
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 6: people have betting.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: Problems we get texts every, week by the, way with,
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: that like on our text line every week and about
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: when we go on the air at, noon it's like
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: And i'll, say, Hey john lun coming up a two
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: o'clock and that's the same. Thing what time two o'clock
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: to fifteen to ten to? Twelve like it's and now
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: you're kind of been.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 6: Off it's probably because they don't want to be, listening
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 6: LIKE i don't want to get caught listening to that
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 6: what time is it gonna be on to like don't.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: Listen, Well i'll say, This i'll give you. CREDIT i
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: mean you've Been you've been kind of off. Brand e've
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: been on time the last couple of. Weeks so you,
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: know we'll see if he gets up next. Week we'll
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: see if he keeps up next. WEEK i think two weeks,
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: AGO i totally missed the day and we had to
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: change the. Day one of those are coming. Up i'm
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: just telling you right, now wait Till i'm ON va coming,
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: Up wait Till i'm on.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 6: For SOMEBODY i.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 14: RESPECT i respect.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 6: Well now That Greg bell has a.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 14: Regular, SHOW i don't know who's going to be filling.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 6: In BECAUSE i Respected Greg bell far too much to
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 6: screw around with. Him he's A he's a true.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 14: Professional SO i.
• 1:40:27
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• 1:40:30
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• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: jess was here one days. Gone, YEAH i walked. In
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: yeswas Because i'm Doing greg. Show he did the exact
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: same thing you.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 9: Did.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: John she actually thinks he's a professional and that we're
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: just kind of. Nobody she just she just. Left she
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: left us yesterday with no. Warning that was.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 3: It i'm. Out What, yeah, yeah well.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 14: Kind of what kind of ship Is richmore running over?
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: There that's a whole different. Whatever that's a whole different
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: that's a whole different conversation.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 6: Shows, yeah to do this show, TODAY i THINK i
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 6: would have worked.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 14: You know that?
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: Show What, well, listen we've had the same, words what
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: kind Of we've had all those same conversations, ourselves, buddy
• 1:41:08
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  Speaker 7: is At Yankee stadium with The, Sun, okay so we're
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  Speaker 7: gonna give him the day. Off Brian schmetzer will join,
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  Speaker 7: and talk about the future Of blazer, basketball which may
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