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(Chats 6-19-19) How to Change Your OWCP Doctor & File a Stress Claim · Breaking OWCP with Chris & Gini

• 0:03
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to the Breaking O WCP podcast.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_00: Join Chris and Jeannie as they bring you expert advice on the Federal Workers Comp guiding you step-by-step to get back to work the right way.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_00: Let's break down the barriers and get you the help you deserve.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_02: Hey everyone, welcome to Wednesday night OWCP Chats with Chris and Jeannie live in Daytona, Florida.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_02: We're actually here with the Florida roll letter carriers, and we're gonna be here for the next couple days hanging out with them, having some fun, doing some education.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_02: Let's get started.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_02: So tonight.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_01: Hold on.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_01: See these windows?
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_01: Earlier, the idea was if we do this, you'll see the beach.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_01: So the black behind us, I'm just telling you, just so you know, there's a beach back there.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_01: And the idea was so you see the beach, and uh you can't see it.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_02: There is a beach back there.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's right over there.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_02: It's a black beach.
• 1:03
  unknown: Right there.
• 1:05
  unknown: Okay.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_02: Anyway, tonight I know a lot of you have been calling us on how to change the doctor that you're currently with because you're having problems.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_02: The doctor doesn't know how to get your cases accepted and what to do from there.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_02: And Chris has done all his research and his homework, and those of you that are almost no homework, just some research.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_02: Have been following Chris on Twitter.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_02: He put a little new whatchamacallit, a new law that he whatchamacallit, a new law that he found.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_02: And if you want to know what the new law is, you've got to go on Twitter.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_01: Where did I put it?
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_01: Twitter.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_01: Wait, I put it on Twitter.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_01: So for the 392 of you that have Twitter, you've seen this already.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_01: And congratulations to you.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_01: You were the first 392 of 2.8 million to see it.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_01: But for the rest of you that haven't, I posted on Facebook today, or early today, when I was drinking coffee right out of bed, I was like, eh, I'm gonna do this thing.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_01: And so I posted it and I said, but go to Twitter to see it.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_01: And since then, I got an entire I got six new people on Twitter.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, for you six folks.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_01: So those six of you, good job.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for following, but it's not for me.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's for you.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_01: And the fact that the rest of you haven't gotten on yet, listen, at some point you got Facebook.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_01: And I remember when I got Facebook, it was this new exciting thing that I didn't know what it did, and I got Facebook.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_01: So Twitter's that thing too, but it's about as old as Facebook.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_01: And so now for all of you that have Facebook but not Twitter, here's what you do get Twitter.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's exactly the same.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_01: You get the app, you sign up, and it walks you through the app.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_01: It's so fun.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_01: Like the sign-up process is so easy, you can take a nap through it, and when you wake up, you're signed up.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_02: Take a nap through it.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's super easy.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_01: But once you wake up and you're signed up, you go to at the at sign.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_01: At Fed Injury Center.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_01: At Fed Injury Center.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_01: So here's the deal.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_01: Don't follow anybody else.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_01: Just follow me.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_01: Don't follow the president.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_01: Don't follow anybody in politics.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_01: Don't follow entertainers.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_01: Don't follow athletes.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_01: Don't follow anybody else.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_01: Just me.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, it'll be easy that way.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_01: That way you don't get buried in what's like the news feed of Facebook.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_01: You're up all day long.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_01: You're on Facebook.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_01: You're like, ah, newsfeed, newsfeed.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_01: My friends, this is what they had enchiladas for dinner.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_01: They had a salad.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_01: Who cares?
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_01: They care about that.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_01: But the rest of you don't care.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_01: But on Twitter, okay, all joking aside, seriously, today I posted something that is a game changer.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_01: That if you're on Twitter, you're the first ones to see it.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_01: And the rest of you who are stuck in a black hole of denials, I told you how to get out.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_01: How to get out.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_01: And everything I put on Twitter's valuable.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_01: All of it.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_01: Everything I put there has value to you.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_01: And the fact that you're not there looking at it right now, it shocks me because you're here watching this.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, how can they watch it right now?
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so when this is over, get Twitter.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, seriously, just do it because I'm just trying to help, and it's a fast way to give you information so that you have it in real time.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_01: So for everybody that has some aversion to social media, get over it.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_01: If you have a social aversion to getting new apps on your phone was built for apps.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_01: It's the whole reason to have a phone.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_01: It's not to use it anymore because we don't even like to be on the phone.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_01: We text.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_01: So we have phones for apps.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_01: Get this app, Twitter, at Fed Injury Center, and I promise you you will not be disappointed.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_02: So Diane says, When I talked to Ginny today, I had to laugh when she asked if I have Twitter.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I do.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_01: I said, So you're the one.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_01: You're the one.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_01: So she's one of 394 so far.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_01: The rest of you, get with the program.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_01: Get Twitter.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_02: Tammy.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, we wish we could have seen you here at the Rule Carrier Convention.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_02: Hopefully next year we get to see you.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_02: And she says she has a new phone and she was getting Twitter.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_02: Tammy, if you have trouble, give me a call.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_02: Chris will walk you through.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's four steps, maybe three, but like the fourth one's probably hey, yeah, you did it.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_01: Congratulations.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_02: Joyce is on Twitter.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Joyce.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_02: Tammy Hoskins says, Okay, I'm joining Twitter.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_02: So, those of you that don't know, it's really important to get the Twitter because Chris posts really important information.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_02: Like one of the topics we are gonna discuss, but you gotta go to Twitter to check it out because I know I think it was Diane that saw or somebody else called.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_02: She said she saw, no, there was a it was somebody from Iowa.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_02: Iowa was Iowa.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_02: She called while we were driving to Daytona and she says I just saw Chris's Twitter post and I had to call because now I need some more help.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_02: It's huge.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_02: See?
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta get on.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_01: So in the beginning, like for the last several weeks, I've been just playing around.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, maybe get on Twitter.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_01: Seriously, it's time.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like enough, get on.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_01: Because I'm just helping.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_01: And the information I'm putting on there is huge.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_01: You can't find it without doing hours of research.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_01: And why would you do that to yourself?
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_01: I'm doing it.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_01: So get on Twitter, get the information, share it with your friends, and tell them to get Twitter too.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_01: And everybody just get into 2019 and get social media and start with Twitter.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_01: You already did Facebook.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_01: Good job.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_01: So now do Twitter.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_02: So what we need you guys to do is go ahead and get your coworkers on, tag them in the post, go ahead and share.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_02: But share this now.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_02: Share this post because it's gonna be really important for what Chris is gonna be talking about.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna change your life tonight.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_01: If you've got a denied claim, tonight your life is gonna get changed.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_01: I'm serious.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_01: This is a this is gonna be a life-changing Facebook Live.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_01: So right now I see 30 poor 34 people watching.
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  SPEAKER_01: What are you people doing?
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_01: Share.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, what I'm gonna tell you tonight is gonna change everything for you.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, all these denied claims, this black hole of denials, it's all going away.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_01: So in a minute, I should see 100 people, not 35.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_01: Let's go, share it, let's go.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_02: So start sharing the video.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_02: So tonight what we're gonna be talking about are these two topics.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_02: So we're gonna talk about change of treating doctors, what to do and how to do it, how to find qualified OWCP doctors, and the locations that we've trained the doctors in.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_02: And this is the one big topic that I get all the time, and I've been seeing it on the Facebook sites.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_02: You know, how to handle file anxiety, stress claims, PTSD, and being harassed at work.
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  SPEAKER_02: And can you file it?
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_02: And how do you go about filing it?
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_02: So, with that said, turn it over to you.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, so stress claims.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_01: Stress claims can be either CA1 or CA2 claims, it just really depends on how it happens.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_01: Sadly, a story that I heard about was somebody saw a person who was dead on the route, and that happened in a single shift on that route.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_01: So that person suffered from a some sort of stress, anxiety disorder, PTSD.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not a psychologist, so I'm not sure how to describe it.
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  SPEAKER_01: But they it was an issue.
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  SPEAKER_01: But it happened in a single shift, and so that's a CA1 claim.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_01: Another person had been harassed by their supervisor over a period of time, multiple shifts.
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  SPEAKER_01: That harassment over a period of shifts was a CA2 claim.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_01: Both are and should be covered by OWCP.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_01: So all you've got to do is fill out your forms and turn them in.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, in the case of the one with the supervisor, find someone else.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_01: Find an HR, a postmaster, another supervisor.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_01: You are not required to report your harassment to the harassing supervisor.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, that's just one example.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_01: But the bottom line is you have to report the injury the same way you would if you blow out your knee or hurt your back.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_01: You report the condition.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_01: I've got this going on, and it's hard for me to go to work because every time I come to work, I suffer this mental anxiety, this anguish of some sort.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_01: And uh your supervisor will no doubt give you a hard time.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_01: Somebody's gonna treat you like something's wrong with you, but it's your right.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_01: Do not let go of that.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's your right to file.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_01: So handle that.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_01: From there, you're gonna need to go see a doctor.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_01: So it's a mental health condition.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to call it disorder, because I think that's an ugly word.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_01: You have an issue that you need to deal with, okay?
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_01: That you didn't ask for.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_01: It happened due to the job.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_01: This happens all the time.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_01: We hear about them every day.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_01: So you need to go to a doctor, preferably a mental health provider, psychologist, or psychiatrist.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_01: And uh see that doctor as long as it takes.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_01: If that person takes OWCP and actually knows how to write narrative reports that will get that claim accepted, stick with them.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_01: But if they don't, then go see them two, three, four times, and then have them write a report that explains your condition and take it to an OWCP doctor and let them incorporate that report into their own report.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_01: And that's how you get your stress, anxiety, PTSD, your claim accepted that is a mental health claim.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_01: And don't be embarrassed.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_01: You know what happens is people say, Oh, I just I gotta hide this, especially men.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, seriously.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_01: You don't need to hide it, it just gets worse.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_01: These things are covered, and your privacy is protected.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_01: And uh and so I recommend that you just fill out the forms, go to the doctor, and get it dealt with.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_01: Once it's once the form is sent to DOL from the supervisor's out of it.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_01: They have no right to know what's going on with you.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_01: And so you don't have to be embarrassed or ashamed or any of that.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_01: You have a right to get help, so do that.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_01: So whether it's a CA1 or a CA2, that's how you get that dealt with.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_01: And you just pretend that it's a back injury.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_01: What would you do there?
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, so handle it.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_01: It was a knee injury, handle it.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_01: You've got a condition that needs to be dealt with.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_01: You didn't ask for this, it happened as a result of your job, so that's how you handle it.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_01: What questions do we have?
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, and we want you guys to understand.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_02: I know you guys text us, message us, call us.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_02: So, what goes on in the post office as far as your hours go and clocking in and all of that stuff, we don't know.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_02: We just focus on OWCP.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_02: I can help you a little bit.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but some of this I might some of it I'm gonna refer to your union.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_01: So just be aware of that.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_02: So, again, those of you that are hopping on, we are live in Daytona, Florida.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_01: Share this right now.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, with our Florida roll letter carriers for their state convention, and we'll be here for the rest of the week.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_02: So come talk to us.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so, and hello everyone.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_02: I know you guys are saying hello.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_02: Daniel Thomas says, hello, just a quick question.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_02: Can they call you and leave you a message to come in on your day off?
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_02: This happened to me yesterday on my route.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_01: They can do it, but I would definitely call the union next and say, hey, this happened.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_01: Should I come in on my day off?
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_01: It's outside of OWCP.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_01: But one thing I'd say is you already have enough problems with management because they're jerks a lot of times.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_01: Not all of you.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_01: There's like at least one manager out there that's not a jerk, and I'm talking to you.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_01: But the rest of you are jerks, and it's hard dealing with management.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_01: And so when that happens and they're just they have bad intentions, let your union know, and then have the union intervene for you.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_01: Okay?
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_01: They can do it.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_01: Should they?
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_01: No, they shouldn't do it.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_01: That's not nice, but they can.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we're talking about how to get your how to and can you get your stress, anxiety, PTSD claims processed, and can you do it?
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, you can do it.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_03: You can.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_02: And those of you like where Chris is saying that the supervisor is harassing you causing this issue, don't forget we did a video we're at 24,000 views already with the rules and statutes for the supervisors that we'll probably go over again in a couple months.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_02: But go back and watch it so you don't have to go down this route of having stress and anxiety.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_02: We've heard, sorry, we've heard like in Alabama, we've had somebody that she saw somebody dead on her route in a lake.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_02: So, like, all these things are covered.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_02: We've asked, higher level, and it is covered.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_01: Legitimate issue.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_01: What the heck was I gonna say?
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_01: I could keep talking.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_01: It'll come back to me.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_02: Mary says, Can you be diagnosed with PTSD if you only have a physical injury and still being asked to work with the injury?
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_01: So the answer is look, if the question is, can you be?
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, you can be.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_01: The issue is can your doctor intelligently, specifically outline in a narrative report how it's job related?
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_01: And that's the key.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_01: You can say anything, and doctor can say anything, but if they can't write a good narrative report, what's the point?
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_01: But yes, the answer is yes, it can be.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_01: They just have to do a good job writing the report.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_02: Mr.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_02: Alonzo says, I've had three surgeries, both shoulders and my back.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_02: What can be done with a schedule award?
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, so schedule awards are a bigger topic.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_01: Shoulders and back?
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_01: So the shoulders are definitely covered.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_01: The back is not necessarily, usually not, but can be if it causes symptoms radiating into your limbs.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_01: To get a schedule award, you need to get an MMI.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_01: MMI is called maximum medical improvement, and that means that you're as good as you're ever going to get.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_01: And only your treating doctor can say that, or a medical doctor can say you're at MMI.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_01: Once you're at MMI, they do an impairment rating based on the sixth edition to permanent impairment, and that impairment goes or the percentage goes into a CA7 claim for compensation and for your schedule award that goes into DOL.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_01: For more information on that, you can call us directly.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_01: Or you can contact Eric Blowers, a lawyer.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_01: If you want his number, he's spectacular, he's inexpensive compared to other lawyers out there that do what he does.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_01: He's a professional and she can give you his number.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_01: So if you want to just message her and she'll give you his number.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_02: So Daniel says, I'm so stressed out over this job.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_02: Would be would it be a CA1 or a CA2?
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_01: It depends, Daniel.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_01: It depends on did your stress come from a single incident in a single shift, or did it come from two or more shifts over time?
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_01: By definition, there's not a third way to to uh to file a claim.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_01: It either happened in a single shift or multiple shifts.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_01: CA1 or CA2.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, so I and this is the reason why we're doing this topic now.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_02: All the questions are coming in.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_02: So, Chris, how about someone threatening to kill you?
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_01: Who who did that?
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I don't know who did it.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_01: If someone threatened to kill you, that definitely happened in a single shift, and that would be a CA1 claim.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_01: And uh you handle that accordingly.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_01: And so you just need to uh prove, number one, you'll have to prove someone threatened to kill you.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_01: I'm pretty sure that your word will not be good enough, sadly.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_02: But she says it's it has caused a lot of stress and it's not.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_01: Well, there's no doubt.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_01: That would cause me stress and anxiety because I'd like to live.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: So if someone has threatened to kill you, you've got to just document it.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_01: If there was a witness, that would be ideal.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_01: I would call the police for sure, get a police report on that.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_02: Most definitely.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_01: And then have the police talk to the person who threatened to kill you, and then you take all that information and that goes in a CA1.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: And then your mental health doctor, whether a psychologist or psychiatrist, takes all that information and writes a narrative report after evaluating you.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_01: And that's how you get that accepted.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_02: So Laura says, What pitfalls do I need to watch out for a stress harassment claim?
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_01: Number one, it has to be true.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_01: Here's the key.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_01: And I would never accuse a federal employee of fabricating or lying.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_01: I just never would.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_01: I would never do it.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_01: I've never even seen it, which is interesting.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_01: With thousands of people I've helped, I've never seen anybody lie about a claim.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_01: But number one, it has to be true.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_01: And number two, you have to be able to prove it.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_01: If you can't prove it, that's a huge pitfall.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_01: If there was a witness, that's huge.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_01: If you can get stuff in writing, that's ideal.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_01: So a pitfall in this is if it's my word against their word, that gets to be trouble.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_01: If you can get a witness or get something in writing, that would put you well on your way to success in getting that claim accepted.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, thank you, Daniel.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_02: That was really sweet.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_02: He said thanks again.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_02: God bless you both.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, God bless you too.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_02: Tamara, you want to know what time can you call and talk to me?
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_01: You can call any time of the day between 12 a.m.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_01: and 12 a.m., but we may not answer at all times, but we'll always call you back.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_02: So I know a lot of you have called me since last week.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_02: Mind you, we have been from one state to the next, and I'm home for one or two days trying to get dolls kitchen ready for my kids, and then we're right back on the plane again.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_02: So please bear with me.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_02: Today I've just made like a handful of calls.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_02: I will call again in between the time that I have tomorrow and the rest of the week.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_02: So you can call me anytime, and my phone number is 877-787-OWCP.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_02: So call me anytime and just leave me a message and I will call you back.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so hold on.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_01: Now check it out.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_01: A few people, almost nobody, but a few people, usually from the Northeast, have an issue if we don't call back within half a second of leaving a message.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: So listen, we're always gonna call back.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_01: We help everybody.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_01: You may be on a queue, okay, or whatever the word is.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_01: You might be number 60 in line, okay?
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_01: All 60 people are getting a call back.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_01: But five minutes later saying a text or another call with cussing might put you at the end of the line.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_01: So just cut it out.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: Look, we're trying our best to help you.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_01: We love all of you, even the one that got to the end of the line from cussing.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_01: We love you too.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_01: And we're definitely gonna help you.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_01: But this one answers every call.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_01: She takes everything that requires a little bit more expertise and gives it to me.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: And I answer all those questions too.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_01: So this is one person, two people, and 2.8 million of you.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_01: So we love you.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_01: We are definitely gonna do the best we can to help you.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, hang in there for us.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_01: We'll definitely call you back.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_02: Chris's phone with me answering the questions went dead and we're still alive.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_02: Anyway, so that's how you guys file a PTSD, a stress, an anxiety.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_02: We hear it from all agencies, all the different unions.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_02: Make sure you just when this stuff is going on, contact your district rep, comp contact your NBA, contact your union president, and tell them what's going on.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, especially with a threat.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_01: Contact your congressman.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody, contact us.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_02: And like Chris said, just go through what we said, file your claim, find an OWCP psychiatrist, psychologist, therapist that one that will take OWCP.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_02: They may go ahead and write a great narrative.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_02: They are the ones to know how to do this.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_02: And if not, visit them to two to three visits and then find an OWCP doctor that the treating physician can work with the psychiatrist.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_02: So with that said, is your phone still acting up?
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_02: That's okay.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_01: I will slide this way.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, we got questions again.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_02: No, that's because that's old ones.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_01: Jerry said I need my life change, and I shared.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, thank you guys so much for sharing.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_02: Share.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, here we go.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, we already answered that one.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so you guys wanted to know how to find an OWCP qualified doctor.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_01: You go ahead.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_01: Tell them.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_02: Hey Mr.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_02: Taylor, how's it going?
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_02: I'm still waiting for you to recall us back to your union.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_02: No sense discussing.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_01: There was a question there.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: How do we find a doctor?
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, let me talk to you about how to find a doctor.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_01: I'll go ahead and do this.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_01: Number one, get a pen and paper.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_02: Who's cussing?
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_02: Is there somebody saying something, Tammy?
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_01: What?
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_01: Tammy.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_01: She's probably just saying.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it says no sense in cussing, Jamie.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_02: These people are.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_01: Alright.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, take a break from that.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, so here's the deal.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_01: You want to find a doctor.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_01: Number one, here's what you do.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_01: Write this down.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_01: Go to Google and in your search OWCP, injury doctor, and your city.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_01: So right now I'm in Daytona.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_01: OWCP Injury Doctor Daytona.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_01: That's how you find a doctor.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_01: If they are not on page one or at the top of page one, they don't want to be found or they don't exist.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_01: In that case, you go to ACS.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_01: Now ACS sucks.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's horrible.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_01: It's all the way terrible.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_01: But you can go there.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_01: So you go to Google and search OWCP ACS or D O L A C S, okay?
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_01: And once you get to this site, you scroll down about halfway and there's a link that says provider search.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_01: And you go through all the stuff there and search for a doctor.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_01: More than likely, you're gonna call like 10 or all of the doctors on the list, and they'll say no, they don't want it.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_01: And so in that case, call us 877-787-OWCP, and we'll do our best to help you find a doctor that will help you, and that's what we do.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_01: Anyways, that's how you find a doctor.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_01: But Jeannie is looking for more questions.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_01: I'm anxious, I'm so anxious to get to the next topic.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_01: But right now there are 52 people watching, and I'm not getting to the next topic yet because that's not enough people.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_01: This is huge.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_01: What I'm about to tell you, even after I say it, you're gonna think, oh, that's it.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_01: Believe me when I tell you, if you're one of these people that has a denied claim, you're not thinking, oh, that's it.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_01: You're thinking, Where's that been all my life?
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, so what I'm about to give you is the where's that been all my life information.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_01: So please share this right now.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_01: I'm looking for this thing to double.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: We need more people to see this.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_01: Alright?
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: And then after I say it, and then we're finished, I want you to take it, the completed video, and share it with all your friends, your co-workers.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's gonna be very important.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_01: So we're gonna get to all your questions later after this video because I want to spend the rest of the time talking about this next topic.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_01: We will answer your questions as they come through.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_01: We'll go through the feed on this and we'll type the answers to them.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_01: That way everybody can see it.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_01: And we're happy to help in that way.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: We do this every time.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes we stay up past midnight answering questions, so we'll definitely do that.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_01: Here's the deal.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_01: Are we ready for the next topic?
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, just a minute.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_01: Just a minute.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_01: Talk amongst yourself.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: I'll give you a topic.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_02: Talk amongst yourself that you should be getting Twitter before Chris comes after it.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_01: I think look at her makeup.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_01: I would talk about her makeup.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody else does.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_01: It's like a thing.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_01: The guys on here are like, yeah, my woman looks at makeup videos too.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she does.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_01: She loves makeup videos.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_01: But look at her, she could do the makeup videos.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_02: I like playing with makeup.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_02: Anyways, we're gonna get to the next topic after, since our phone is having an issue.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's not our phone, it's a Wi-Fi.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_01: This is not my hotel.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I don't own the hotel, but if I did, this room would have better Wi-Fi.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, you need my phone number.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_02: I'll go ahead and post it here anyway.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_02: On here, I'll message you.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_02: Daniel, it's 877-787-OWCP.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_02: Crystal, thank you guys.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_02: P Meg uh Saturday about a doctor in Indy.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks for the info.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_02: Saw Dr.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_02: Toll's office Monday.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Dr.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_02: Toll is awesome.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_01: He's the man.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_01: He's like my brother from another mother.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_02: Mr.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_02: Taylor, I gotta watch you and your music because you gotta dedicate some songs to me.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, number again slowly.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_02: It's 877.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_02: Is that 787 OWCP?
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, here we go.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_02: You can go ahead and read that.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_02: You can go ahead and read that.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_01: I requested OWCP review decision to deny medicine, and it's been a month.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_01: I was told that it had been referred to a DMA, which happens all the time.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_01: I'm now trying to contact the supervisor to find out reasons for.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, so supervisors have nothing to do with this.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_01: Unless you're talking about a claims examiner supervisor, then that's a good move.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_01: I'm so upset that a necessary medication has been delayed.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so here's what's gonna have to happen.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_01: Your medical doctor is gonna have to write a letter of medical necessity for this.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_01: Send that in to the claims examiner.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_01: You may even need to request that a nurse case manager, Robert, is added to your case.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_01: The nurse case manager will then cooperate with the medical doctor and find out that this is in your best interest and we'll probably speed that up.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_01: So write a letter, Robert, requesting that a nurse case manager be added to your case.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_01: Normally I write letters requesting they be removed, but in this case it looks like you need one.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_01: So do that.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_02: Joanne, yeah, I know a lot of people keep saying that they wish they would have known us prior to their injury.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_01: Joanne, I wish I would have known you.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_02: We're here now and we're trying to tackle all of this and help you guys out as much as we possibly can.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_02: Let us know.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_02: Tell your co-workers, and we just got through telling one of the uh rule carriers downstairs a couple hours ago, saying she was saying that her case was denied, it got messed up, you and she didn't want to call us, so she went to another doctor, and her case got denied, and then it got denied twice until she finally said, I'm gonna reach out to you guys.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_02: And she came into our office and her case got accepted.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_02: It's that easy, guys.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_02: Just make a phone call.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_02: We know we don't have enough doctors in the United States.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_02: We're working on it.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_02: Chris is working on it with another one of our partners.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_02: I know you guys want us to come to New Jersey and New York really bad.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_02: Who was it on here?
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_02: Daniel said, We'd love to meet you both.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_02: Ever come into New Jersey?
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_02: I have family in Jersey and New York.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, we'd love to meet you too.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's a big country, so we're working on it, but we'll keep it in mind.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_01: We really appreciate that.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_01: And we look, we appreciate that people say what you're saying.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_01: We'd like to meet all of you.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_01: Those of you we met, Tammy, we really appreciate knowing you and Scott.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_01: We've met a lot of fun people, like people that we feel like are friend friends and family.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_01: The rest of you, we feel like that too.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_01: We just haven't met you yet.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_02: Javon, I know you want us to come to Connecticut right now.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_02: Our Boston offices are gonna be the closest one.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_02: Mary, I know California.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_02: Chris is working on that.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, and I'm almost I it's not that I forgot.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't say Jerry.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: Jerry, I'm your biggest fan.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_02: Jerry.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_02: And Mike says he loves the way your makeup looks.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Mike.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, you want to Texas.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_02: Javon, you want to have drinks?
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_02: I love a strong iced tea with a little bit of ice.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_02: Sweet tea, that is.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_01: Me too.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: All right, we're gonna move on.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_01: Look, I have this topic and I really want to talk about it.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_01: So we're gonna hold the rest of the questions to the end.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, hold on.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_02: Tammy says I thought we were.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_02: Do I have to go to the post office doctor?
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_01: Are you kidding?
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_02: No, that's what she says.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's a different Tammy.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, so look, no, you don't have to go to the post office doctor.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_01: Here's what you do.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_01: Tammy Hopkins, right?
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_01: I'm so glad you asked.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_01: Go to Twitter.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna tell you the answer, but this is important.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_01: Get a Twitter account if you don't have one.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_01: And most people don't.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_01: Look, I didn't have one either, but now I do.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_01: You will too.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_01: They're free and they're easy.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_01: Sign up, go into your app store or your Google Play Store, whatever phone you have, go do that.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_01: Download Twitter.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_01: And then go through the very easy steps that Twitter walks you through and get an account.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_01: Once you get your account, go to the search bar and search the at sign at Fed Injury Center.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_01: You must do this.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody needs to do this.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_01: This is not serious.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_01: We're not playing.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_01: This is not optional.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_01: This is so critically important.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's the only way I can communicate with you, and you get it now.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_01: When I send this out, when I put information on there, you get it now.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's so easy for you.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_01: And you have this information that you can share with all your coworkers.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_01: If you're a steward, you can share with your members of your union.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_01: It makes you more powerful in your position.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_01: So at Fed Injury Center.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: But do you have to go to the doctor?
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, 20 CFR, the Code of Federal Regulation, says that you can choose your own doctor, that the supervisor cannot force you to go to a doctor that's employed by or under contract with the agency, and they have to tell you that it is your right to choose your own doctor.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you can choose your own doctor.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_01: It's your right.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_01: If you go to the company doctor, you will end up in a black hole of denials.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_01: And in a minute, when she lets me, I'm gonna tell you how to get out of that black hole.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_01: So go ahead and do your thing, but I'm gonna tell you how to get out.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_02: I'll save my stuff for the end.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_02: Go ahead.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_02: Get out of the black hole.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_02: Alright.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_02: Let them get out of the black hole.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, seriously.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_01: So this has been.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_01: I've been playing, I'm not playing.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_01: This is really important.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_03: It is.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever doctor you go to, everybody knows if you're on this feed, there are not nearly enough qualified OWCP doctors that know how to get claims accepted.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody knows this.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_01: Okay?
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't matter how hard I try, how long I work, how many states I go into, how many offices I train, there's never enough.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_01: Okay?
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_01: I've trained more than 25 doctors on how to do OWCP, and it's not enough.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_01: There are 50 states, lots of cities, okay, 2.8 million federal employees.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_01: My 25 doctors are not even scratching the surface.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm doing the best I can.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_01: And so here you are, if you don't go to a doctor that I trained, you're getting denied.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_01: Okay?
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_01: One out of 13 federal employees has an accepted claim.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_01: Every time I go to any kind of meeting, any kind of convention, I ask this question what percentage of your co-workers are hurt?
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_01: And I hear 60, 70, 80, everybody.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_01: Alright?
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_01: So we all agree that half of your federal coworkers have some sort of work-related condition.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_01: Half.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, half is six or seven out of thirteen.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_01: But one out of thirteen has an accepted claim.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_01: That's a problem.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_01: But what's worse is you end up at a doctor.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_01: You're you got suckered into going to the company doctor.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_01: Your supervisor said you had to go to the company doctor and you went.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_01: You're a BA employee.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_01: You got suckered into going to the BA doctor.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_01: Okay?
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_01: And you thought you had to.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_01: But you didn't, but you thought you had to, because you never heard me say you don't have to.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_01: And so you got suckered into going to a nurse practitioner at an urgent care.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_01: And you got your claim denied.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_01: But you're stuck.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_01: You got suckered into going to a specialist like an orthopedic surgeon.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_01: Now, orthopedic surgeons are great surgeons.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_01: Many of them have no failed surgeries, but they're not an OWCP specialist.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_01: And so you get suckered into going to these doctors, and guess what happens?
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_01: You're stuck because that's your doctor.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_01: And now OWCP, the claims examiner, has your attending physician treating doctor, the doctor of record, as that guy, that woman.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_01: Okay?
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_01: Guess what they did?
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_01: They got your claim denied.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_01: All denials are the fault of the doctor.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_01: All of them.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_01: You're not a doctor.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_01: You don't write medical reports.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_01: One of the five things is a medical report.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_01: And the medical report covers all five of the things.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_01: And so you don't get a doctor that can write that report, who cares to write five pages, who cares to do anything more than bill.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_01: Okay?
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_01: All they want to do is bill an insurance company.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_01: Or bill you.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_01: And they bill you and your claim gets denied.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_01: How about that?
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_01: So now you're stuck in this endless loop because now you find out you that there are doctors out there.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_01: You find out there's doctors out there that can get claims accepted.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_01: Look, this is not a sales thing, I'm here teaching, but I'm gonna tell you something.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_01: Your doctor that got your claim denied is a joke.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_01: Alright?
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_01: Any doctor that won't write the report to get your claim accepted is a coward.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_01: Write the report.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_01: I have doctors that say I can't definitively say that's work related.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_01: Are you kidding me?
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_01: A postal employee who walks eight to ten miles a day and up to s carry lifts up to 70 pounds occasionally and carries a 35 pound satchel on their back and oftentimes a second one and has to step in and out of that vehicle that sometimes catches on fire.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_01: You can't say that's work related.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_01: You're a coward.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_01: But you have doctors like that and you got stuck with them.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_01: And so now I'm telling you, hey, you gotta pick a right doctor, but you pick the wrong one.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's not your fault.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: You tried your best and they were the wrong doctor.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_01: But now the claims examiner won't let you switch doctors.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_01: You're stuck, right?
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_01: You're not.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_01: I thought you were stuck.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_01: We've been working on this.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_01: We've been telling people like, ask your doctor to fire you.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_01: Just go to another doctor, request a change of treating doctor, and the claims examiner says, no.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_01: Most OWCP specialists are general practitioners.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_01: And so if you went to the orthopedic surgeon who refuses to write more than five sentences on a report, they're certainly not going to write five pages.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_01: You're stuck because the claims examiner says we can't approve or we won't approve a change from a specialist to a general practitioner.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you know what?
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_01: Your specialist specializes in deny claims.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_01: That's their specialty when it comes to OWCP.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_01: But that general practitioner, they specialize in OWCP accepted claims.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_01: So what do you do?
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_01: And that's why I'm talking tonight, because here's the game changer.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: Because now I'm telling you, you can get that doctor to relieve himself or herself from your case.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_01: And if that doctor refuses to help you, you now have the initial selection of treating physician.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_01: You're back to choice one.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_01: And I put this on Twitter today.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_01: Those of you that refuse to get Twitter refuse to see this.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_01: Because I put the exact place in the manual for Federal Workers Comp.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_01: The manual.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_01: I posted exactly where it's at.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_01: So you have the word for word of what to do so your doctor can release you from care and make you free to go and find a doctor who wants to help you.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_01: So get Twitter.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_01: Look, I'm not I'm not holding you hostage, I'm telling you what to do.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_01: But get Twitter, you would have seen this already.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_01: The 390-something of you that have already been on Twitter, you've seen it, okay?
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_01: You can all go get a drink right now because you've seen this.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_01: But the rest of you want this information because you have a deny claim and you can't get out of the denial.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_02: You can't.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta get out.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_01: So here's how.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_01: That doctor is gonna keep getting your claim denied.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_01: How do I know?
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_01: Because one out of 13 people hasn't accepted claim.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_01: So they're gonna keep doing it.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna get denial after denial until you throw your hands up and say, screw it, I don't want this anymore.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna work for the pain, end up on disability, and by year or two have 40% of your income.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_01: Okay?
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_01: That's what's happening.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_01: Alright?
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_01: We have people calling us every day saying, I'm I don't know how to make my house payment.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_01: My kids are going to college, I don't know how to pay the college bills.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_01: And it's because I'm hurt and I can't go to work.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_01: I'm hurting too bad to go to work and I can't get a claim accepted.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_01: So why would you stay with that doctor who can't get your claim accepted or who refuses to write the report to get your claim accepted when you can switch?
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_01: Now I'm telling you, you can change doctors, and there's a way so the claims examiner won't tell you no.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_01: So everyone share this.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody knows somebody with a deny claim right now.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_01: Alright?
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_01: Share this video.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_02: Or a doctor that's not doing a good job.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody knows it.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_01: Okay?
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_01: So you've got to have your doctor write a letter to the claims examiner.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_01: Is everybody listening?
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_01: This is it.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_01: This is the whole reason I did this live video tonight.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_01: Right now.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_01: Have your doctor write a letter to the claims examiner saying, please release me from this claim.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_01: They give the reason why they want to be released, which I'm honestly is they're not getting paid.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_01: You know how I know they're not getting paid?
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_01: Because they can't get your claim accepted.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_01: Deny claims equals denied payments.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_01: The doctors aren't getting paid.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_01: They're gonna be happy to get off this clay, this case.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_01: Right now they're thinking, gosh, OWCP sucks.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want this anymore.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_01: It's because they did a bad job.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_01: So you know what?
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_01: Bye, Doc.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_01: You did a bad job.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_01: Let them write a letter.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_01: So their letter says, please release me from this case because I'm not getting paid.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not able to help this person get their claim accepted.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_01: That's number one.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_01: They have to write on there your current status.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, they their restrictions are limited duty, they can only lift 20 pounds, and they need to live 70, so on and so forth.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_01: And then what your expected treatment needs to be.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, the doctor can write that stuff.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_01: They send that letter to the claims examiner, and the rule says the claims examiner will approve it.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_01: When the claims examiner approves it, you get to go choose a new doctor.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_01: Alright?
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_01: You already went through this failure thing over and over.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_01: You're done with that.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_01: You've been watching this, you know how to find a doctor who can get your claim accepted.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's your time to get your claim accepted.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_01: No more denied claims.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_01: That's what we're doing here.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_01: So the reason for this tonight is to tell you, have your doctor fire you.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_01: But do that by writing a letter to the claims examiner requesting that you be that they be released from your claim.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_01: They will be more than happy to do it because they're working for free, and they're working for free because they did a bad job.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_01: You should not be forced to stick with a doctor who does a bad job or who refuses to do the right job.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_01: So that's it.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_01: Get Twitter tonight, get Twitter now.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_01: Whenever you're watching this, get Twitter, and go to at Fed Injury Center, and you'll see exactly where it's at in the procedure manual so you can show it to your doctor and get relieved from his bad job.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_02: So one of the questions is what happens if you want a second opinion before surgery?
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_01: Go.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_01: Have your doctor make a referral or go.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_01: Find your own doctor.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's your surgery.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_01: Go get a third, a fourth, a fifth opinion.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's your body.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_01: Go do it.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_01: Take responsibility for what you want.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_01: Nobody can tell you you can't have a second opinion, or third or fourth, or fifth.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_02: Sally says, I went to a doctor they trained and got my case accepted.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_02: Listen to them.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, that's how this goes.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_02: Let's that do us.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, so let me just say this.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_01: Look, this is not a sales present presentation, but I can tell you this the doctors that I work with, the doctors I know, the 25 offices around the country that I've trained, we don't get denied claims.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_01: Our training manual starts with this.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_01: Deny claims are for other doctors.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_01: We don't do that.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_01: We don't do that.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_02: Hashtag no more denied claims.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_01: No denied claims.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_01: None.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_02: How do we find you on Twitter?
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_01: At the at sign, at Fed Injury Center.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_01: So when I when she's done with my phone, there should be 500 people following me, and that's not enough.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_01: Okay?
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_01: Then those 500 should share it with another person.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_01: There should be a thousand, then two thousand, and then at some point, all of you.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_01: Because why?
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_01: Because I'm just helping you.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_01: Why do you not want the help?
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_01: Of course you want the help.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_01: That's rhetorical.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_01: But tell your friends at Fed Injury Center and thank you for asking.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_01: And I know I seem like I'm a little fired up.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a lot fired up.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_01: This is a lot fired up.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I look like.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_01: And uh because we see this all the time.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I saw actually a denial letter from a claims examiner saying we're not gonna approve your change of treating doctor because the physician you want to change to is a general practitioner.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna tell you something.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_01: A general practitioner who's had zero denied claims and thousands of approved claims.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_01: That's the biggest load of crap I've ever seen.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_01: And you know why?
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_01: Because the surgeon didn't write.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_01: Please relieve me from this claim.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_02: Can you repeat your Twitter account again?
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_01: At Fed Injury Center.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_01: The at sign.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_02: Not injuries.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_01: The at sign.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_01: At Fed Injury Center.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_02: Esther, we do not know a doctor in San Antonio, but Chris did train Dr.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_02: Ahn, who's in Houston.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_01: That's a heck of a drive.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's forever.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_02: It's like Clearwater, Tampa.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_01: But here's what we say in Florida.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_01: People drive six hours to get to our Florida office in Clearwater, and they do that because the deny claim is worse than the drive.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_01: If you want your claim accepted, go to Houston.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_01: Because I swear to you, you'll get your claim accepted.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_01: Dr.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_01: Ron is a killer.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_01: She refuses to get denied claims.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_01: She's incredible.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_01: And she's in the right there in Houston, all by herself, and uh she's happy to help.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_01: Those of you that are in that part of the world, go there.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_01: We've got an office that we know of, not we don't have one, but a good friend of ours is in Grand Prairie, Texas as well.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_01: And those doctors refuse to get denied claims.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_01: That's not how it works.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: Deny claims are for other doctors.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_01: I don't associate with people who get denials.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_02: Um, got a question.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_02: Can you heal from occupational disease?
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not a doctor, but I've heard of people healing from occupational diseases.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_02: See, Javon drove 120 miles, 120 miles round trip times two, because she drives from Connecticut to our Boston office.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_02: So this goes to show guys we know that we don't have locations everywhere, and we train doctors in certain cities that want to be trained.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_02: Seriously, it's beneficial to you just to at least go there so the doctor can help you get your claim accepted, and then they'll send you back to your hometown if you need physical therapy.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, get all your triggers, your imaging, get it in your hometown.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_01: Do whatever you want, go wherever you want.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_01: The choice of doctors is yours, okay?
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody has the right to choose any doctor they want.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_01: So if you're on here and you hear me suggesting you go to Indiana or to Houston or to Boston, look, it's a suggestion.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_01: The choice of doctors is yours, and I respect that choice more than your supervisors for damn sure.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_01: I want you to choose.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_01: Don't choose our doctors.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_01: I don't care.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I'm here to give you information.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_01: But our doctors don't get denied claims.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, that is for other people.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_01: And you can take your luck and you can go to someplace else, and we'll help you.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_01: If you go to those other doctors and get a denied claim, I'll still read the denial, I'll still tell you how to fix it.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_01: I will always help you.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_01: Okay?
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_01: As long as I can do this, I'm gonna help you.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_01: But we know doctors who won't get denied claims.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_01: We know doctors who know how to who know how to fix these things without you having to call me.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_01: And we did that on purpose.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_02: We don't have a location in Georgia.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_02: We are looking into Montgomery and Birmingham.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_02: So while he takes a break from talking, it's my turn.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_03: Sweet.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so you guys want to know where all of the locations are.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_02: So Federal Injury Centers has locations in Clearwater, Florida, Montgomery, Alabama, Birmingham, Alabama.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_02: What are the Norwood, Quincy, and Worcester and not Worcester.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_02: Scratch.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_02: Worcester.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_02: Those are the Federal Injury Centers doctors.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_01: Hold on, Norwood, Quincy, Walburn, Massachusetts.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_01: Just to be clear, those are Massachusetts.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_02: So those are all the centers that we oversee and we drive patients to.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_02: So now here are all the doctors that Chris has trained.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_02: There's a handful of them that I personally work for the doctors.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_01: We don't drive patients to offices.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_01: We tell you about them.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_01: You choose for yourself.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_00: They can they drive them.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_01: I don't drive anybody.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even like to drive.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_01: It's one of those areas.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he never drives.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_02: We have these are the doctors that Chris has trained, Florida.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_02: And Dr.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_02: Kamerman is the MD on all of these offices.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_02: So you have And Dr.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_01: Camerman does not get denied claims.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_01: He's the first doctor I ever trained.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_01: And it's so funny.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_01: If I just want to jack with him, I'll say, hey, how many claims you got denied this week?
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_01: None.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_01: None.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_02: Me personally, I work for Dr.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_02: Di Tommaso in Fort Myers.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_02: Dr.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_02: Newman in Miami.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_01: Dr.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_01: Newman is one of the first doctors I ever trained.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_02: And Dr.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_02: Bruce Osler in West Palm Beach.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_02: And then we have our Clearwater office in the world.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_02: And Dr.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_01: Cameron works with all those officers.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_02: All of those four.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_01: And he's a genius.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_02: So I know there's a lot of you on here that have seen him in Fort Myers and in Clearwater.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_02: He's the same doctor in all four of those locations.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_02: Those are not federal injury centers except our Clearwater ones, but you contact me.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_02: I do work for those doctors, so I will get you in immediately.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_02: And then we have Rockville, Maryland, Dr.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_02: Weinberg and Maryland.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_02: And then we have Chris just finished up last year helping open Vienna, Virginia with Yeah, that Virginia office is so cool.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_01: Because they have hyperbaric oxygen chambers.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_01: And uh they have a they have three doctors, but it's pretty cool because it's like 15 minutes from Alexandria.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_01: But hyperbaric oxygen is pretty cool.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't know anything about it, but it's pretty bad.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_01: I would definitely do it myself.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_02: Joan, Dr.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_02: Newman, it's Dr.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_02: Michael Newman.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_02: And if you need an appointment, let me know.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_02: I'll get your name and number, and I send it over to him, and the doctors wind up calling you.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_02: So when you guys call me, I get your name and your phone number, and I give it to the doctor and they get you all scheduled.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_01: Let me say something real quick.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_01: I normally don't do this.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna name anybody, but there are a lot of jokers in Miami.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, they're not OWCP doctors I would go to.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_01: Be very careful.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_01: Dr.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_01: Newman and Dr.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_01: Camerman are the real deal.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_01: I get nothing for telling you that, but if you wanted an accepted claim, Newman and Camerman are the real deal.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_02: So again, remember the doctors that I'm saying that Chris has trained, these doctors get claims accepted as well as our Federal Injury Center.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_02: No deny claims.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_02: We don't do that.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_02: So that was Rockville, Maryland, Vienna, Virginia.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_02: We have Chicago, Illinois.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_02: I'm a part of that team in Chicago as well with Dr.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_02: Andrew.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_02: Dr.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_02: Tony.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_02: Chuck.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_02: Dr.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_02: Patron.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_02: So if you need a doctor in Chicago, give me a call and I'll get you into their office.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_01: And that dude is a killer.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_01: You want to see somebody who writes violent reports?
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_01: I mean it.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_01: His narrative reports, he will literally leave a dent in you if you do something to hurt the patient.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_01: He will name you, he'll title paragraphs with your name in it.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_02: He's talking about the supervisors, actually.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_01: If they do something to hurt you, he will hurt them back.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_01: Okay?
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_01: You definitely want to go there.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_02: And then there's Dr.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_02: Terry Toll in Indianapolis.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_02: I know I tell a lot of you from the Michigan side because there is no doctor currently that we've trained or that we know that we could recommend over to you.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_02: But Dr.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_02: Toll, if you're in Michigan, those of you that are in Michigan, take the time and drive to see Dr.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_02: Toll even for a day or two.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_02: It'll be so worth it.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_01: And on him, like I keep saying something about each of them, but this guy, like, I trained everybody to do this thing.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_01: But Dr.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_01: Toll, he's gotten more cases approved than everybody combined.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_01: Let that set in for a second.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_01: You want a case approved?
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_01: Go to Indiana.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, seriously.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_01: Seriously.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like airplane tickets are not as expensive as losing your job.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_01: They're not as expensive as having to go on disability.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_01: Bankruptcy is worse than a plane ticket.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_01: A denied claim is worse than going to Indiana.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_01: Dr.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_01: Toll is the real deal.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he is.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_02: We've had I've sent so many people over to him, and all I've heard was just positive feedback, and some people have gotten two, three denials, and they went to him and it got accepted.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_02: And him and Dr.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_01: Tony, there's no deny claims.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_01: If a claim, if it even dared to show up denied, it'd get approved.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_01: Which is how it goes.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, and then we have a Dr.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_02: Say in Racine, Wisconsin, that we were just there.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_01: Just south of Milwaukee.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_02: So I know there's just one doctor.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_02: We have a bunch of people that are.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_02: And Dr.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_01: Say and Dr.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_01: Say are a father and son team.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_01: And uh the same thing.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_01: No denied claims.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_01: We don't do that.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_01: Don't forget Arizona.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yep, I didn't get there.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so there's Dr.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_02: Heaton and Dr.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_02: Drew Heaton in Tucson, Arizona.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_01: David Heaton, Drew's his wife.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_01: She's incredible.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_02: I know, that's why I said Drew.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_01: You said Dr.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_01: Drew Heaton.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_01: She's not the doctor.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_03: She's still a doctor.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_01: She's really not.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_01: We're not gonna debate this.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_01: Dr.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_01: David Heaton and his wife Drew.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_01: They are the team out there because so Drew's important because she's got a really interesting background.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_01: Her dad, who has passed since, but Marine and a letter carrier.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_01: And so they take personal pride in getting these claims accepted.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_01: And Dr.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_01: Heaton's a killer too.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_02: There's nothing in Phoenix, Arizona as yet, Tammy, but I don't know how far Tucson is, but I'm on the other side of the state.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_01: But you can go to Tucson if you want your claim accepted.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_01: If you want your claim denied, stay in Phoenix.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_02: And then we have Grand Prairie, Texas, and Arlington, Texas.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_02: And then we have Houston, Texas.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_02: So that's it.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_01: And maybe Dallas coming soon.
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_01: It's up to you.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_02: And I asked you guys, Mike, I know you're sitting there watching, and I want all my people that are in Dallas and Plano to reach out to me.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_02: If you guys really want federal injury centers of what Texas?
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_02: Dallas?
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_01: Federal injury centers of Texas.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_02: Texas.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_01: Coming soon.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, if you guys really want federal injury centers of Texas, please let us know.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_02: We just can't put and train a doctor there for four patients and the end.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so here's the deal.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_01: Look, this is a business for the doctor.
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_01: And we train the doctor to do a great job and get your claim accepted, but when we do that and only three people show up, the doctor can't stay in business.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's just there's got to be a volume of people that need help.
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_01: Dallas is a huge area.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_01: Collin County around Plano is massive for rural carriers.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_01: The VA in Dallas is the second largest VA in the country.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_01: So if people don't commit to going to a doctor who will get your claim accepted, it's hard for me to open a practice there.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_01: I want to.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_01: I live there.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_01: I want to help.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_01: If you want us to have an office in the Dallas area, let us know what area you're in so we know where to go.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_01: The thing is, we already have a chiropractor and a medical doctor who wants to go.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm not going to say yes to them until I know that this doctor can stay, keep his business supported.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_01: Because I don't want this guy to get to open up a practice, have all this overhead with staff, space, and equipment, and then nobody show up.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_01: It's embarrassing to me.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_01: Just ethically, I want to do a good job for that guy too.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_01: So if you want us to open up in the Dallas area, let us know where.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_01: And if there's enough support for it, we'll do it tomorrow.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_01: I'm happy to do it.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_01: We want to help.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_01: And I had some locations in the Dallas area, but it didn't work out.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_01: And it didn't work out because we had a hard time with uh audience.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_01: I can't teach this without an audience.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_01: Anyways, let us know where you want us to be, and we'll be happy to go.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_01: But there's gotta be enough people that are interested.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_01: And if so, we'll make it happen.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_02: Did I not say Texas right?
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_02: Is it Texas?
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's Texas.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_02: That's Shannon.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_02: There you go.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_02: Shannon said you need it say Texas right.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_02: Texas! Oh my gosh.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_02: So those are all the locations we have no more.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_02: Again, Florida, there's four doctors there.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_02: Alabama, there's two doctors.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_02: Boston, there's three doctors.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_02: You have Rockville, Maryland, Vienna, Virginia.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_02: You have Chicago, Illinois, Indianapolis, Indiana, Racing, Wisconsin.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_02: You have Tucson, Arizona.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_02: You have Houston, Texas, you have Grand Prairie, Texas, and Arlington.
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_02: That is it.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_01: Greensboro, North Carolina.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_02: And oh yes, Greensboro, North Carolina.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_02: I know I've sent a lot of you over to Dr.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_02: Smith, another doctor.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_01: I did some work training these people, so you know, I just like to make sure you know about them.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_01: Because no deny claims.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_02: Alright.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_02: So I think they said Rockville, Maryland.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, Rockville, Maryland, I did say.
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_02: You froze.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, I know.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it froze.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_02: Oh no.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we're back.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_02: Will you please look at my FMLA question?
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_02: If you just type it back again, because there's a ton of questions.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_02: So if you want to put that down again.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and we'll answer it afterwards.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna look at all these questions and answer them.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_01: So you'll see the quote you'll see the answers to your questions.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, heart.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_02: We won't miss one for Greensboro, North Carolina.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_02: I always forget that one.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_02: I'm so sorry.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_02: That ends our topic tonight with everything that Chris has gone over.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_02: All the doctors that we've that I've listed, Chris has trained them, every single one of them, and this is why they get their cases accepted.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_01: Robert Goodwin said, Dr.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_01: Toll got mine approved in 30 days, and it was a CA2.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_01: Let me tell you something, that is a monumental thing.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_01: Getting a CA2 claim approved in 30 days, that's like an act of God, but it's Terry Toll.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_01: And we just want to say right up there with God.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_02: We just want to say you guys are always saying thank you to us.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you to you.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_02: And thank you to you, because you guys are the ones that are watching us, telling your other co-workers and injured friends about us, and we really appreciate that you always trust us to give you the answers.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_02: And we are in Daytona for the Florida rule letter carriers.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_02: And next Thursday, Friday, and Saturday, we are going to be in Kentucky.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_02: And it'll be my first time.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_02: So we're looking forward to the city.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_01: You know they sell bourbon in the airports, like whole bottles of bourbon in the airports.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_02: Do they?
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_02: Are they known for Kentucky Fried Chicken too?
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_01: There is one in the airport.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_02: Is it that good?
• 53:41
  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm not going.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_02: So, with that said, we want to thank you guys again for tuning in tonight.
• 53:49
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• 53:51
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• 53:54
  SPEAKER_01: At Fed Injury Center.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_01: I swear, if there's not 500 people right now, I'm gonna feel like I'm on mute.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_02: I know somebody asked if you can go to another state.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_02: I think it was Daniel.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you can.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_02: If you're in Jersey and you want to come to Florida to see one of our doctors, you can.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_02: You can go to Boston as well, too, because those are found.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_01: You can go to Indy, you can go to Chicago, you can go to Tucson, you can go to wherever.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_01: Get your claim accepted.
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, they do have KFC.
• 54:19
  SPEAKER_02: He says yes, we do, and yes, a chicken is great.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna have KFC, real KFC in Kentucky, so I could say I had Kentucky fried chicken.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_02: Will I get reimbursed for travel traveling far for a doctor if you're not gonna do it?
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta call your claims examiner, pre-authorize it, say, look, I'm traveling.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_01: Will you approve this so that I can get my claim approved?
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_01: They're probably gonna say no.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_01: But getting your claim approved is uh so important that it might be worth a play ticket.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_02: So again, thank you everybody.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you for tuning in tonight.
• 54:49
  SPEAKER_02: We'll see you next week live from Clearwater.
• 54:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, before we go to Kentucky.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_02: And uh we're gonna be going to Kentucky to speak at their state convention for APW.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for the invite.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_01: We're happy to go.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_02: Mr.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_02: Watkins, we're excited.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_02: And those of you that still want us to come to your state conventions, we have our cutoff date is November 5th, and that would be it.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_01: And what's our criteria?
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_02: Our criteria is so if these presidents want Chris to come and talk, it's about an hour's talk, but we don't go no more than an hour and a half, but it must be where he can speak for at least an hour to get all the info and the things that you guys want to learn about firsthand from him live.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_01: And let me say this I appreciate the invites.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_01: I love so much helping.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_01: And this is not fake when I'm telling you.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_01: I love helping federal employees with this stuff because I know the damage that's done by deny claims.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_01: And I know the damage supervisors do and the pain they inflict on you.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_01: And I feel like I'm the only person sometimes that's willing to stick up and fight for you because they can't fire me.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_01: They can't do anything for me to me for sticking up for you.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_01: I can take them all out behind the woodshed.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_01: What are they gonna do to me?
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_01: And uh what's a woodshed?
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta be in from Texas to know that.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_01: But no, seriously, look, it's my honor to do this.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_01: I take great pleasure in teaching.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_01: And in order to get me out to someplace to teach, I'm happy to go.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_01: I do it on my own dime.
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_01: I buy our plane tickets.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_01: You don't pay my plane ticket, okay?
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_01: I pay for myself to go.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't cost you anything for me to be there.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_01: But I don't want to sell.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_01: This is not a sales presentation, so I'm not interested in a booth.
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_01: I don't need to bring brochures unless you want them.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_01: You have to let me talk, okay?
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_01: I need to be able to teach for an hour, hour and a half, but at least an hour.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_01: And so if you can allow me to teach for an hour on stage in front of the group of people that I'm there for to teach for, I'll go.
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_01: But I don't want to go just to set at a booth because this isn't a sales thing.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't want to go there just to pass out brochures.
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_01: I want to go there to teach, to give out the information that I've got to you, to share the knowledge.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_01: And it takes about an hour.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm happy to come.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_01: I know we've been invited out to Michigan.
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_01: We've been invited back to Wisconsin.
• 57:05
  SPEAKER_01: Vegas.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_01: And Vegas.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_01: Seriously.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_01: She today she liked she said they want to know if we want to go to Vegas, and I didn't let her finish up, and I said yes.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_01: Just say yes.
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_01: Definitely doing that.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_01: But in order to have us out at these conventions, I need to be able to speak for about an hour, and you need to fill the room.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I don't want to show up and talk to 10 people because my goal is to spread this word the word out to 2.8 million people.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_01: Ten people is not getting it done for me.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna pay my way.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_01: We're both gonna show up.
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_01: It won't cost you anything, but you gotta pack the house and give me an hour to speak.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_01: If you can do that, I'm in.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_01: Okay?
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'm in and I'm with you all day.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we don't mind coming.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_02: I know you guys keep saying, please come here, please come here.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_02: We have no problem coming.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_01: We want to.
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_02: We have to be invited by your union president or their union group, whoever it is.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_02: That's the only way we can come.
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_02: We just we can't call and say, hey, can we come?
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_02: As far as the national convention goes, we are still waiting for the invite.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_02: There's two months left.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_01: For the rule carrier national convention.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_01: There's multiple national conventions.
• 58:09
  SPEAKER_01: We're talking about the rule carriers, which is gonna be in Grapevine, Texas, which is 20 minutes from where I live.
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_01: Now I'm certain that the crowd will be large enough for me to speak.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_01: All I need is an hour on stage and a microphone.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm from Texas, and I swear to you, I don't actually need the microphone.
• 58:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he does.
• 58:26
  SPEAKER_01: I can fill the room.
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_01: But the bottom line is I need to be able to teach this because you need it.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, your co-workers need it.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_01: Your union members need it.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, what you really need is to stop getting hosed by a bad system, stop going to bad doctors, stop getting bad information from bad supervisors with bad intentions, and I can fix it.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_01: Okay?
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_01: And uh that's it.
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_01: I can fix it.
• 58:48
  SPEAKER_01: There may be other people that can too, but I'm the guy here doing it.
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_01: Please invite me.
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_01: I love you.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_01: All of you that are watching.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_01: I have nothing but love for you, and I want to go out and teach.
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_01: That's the truth.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_02: Lori, yeah, we are excited to be coming to your spring booster for 2020.
• 59:03
  SPEAKER_02: Indiana State Convention is June 23rd.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_02: That's next week.
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_01: We won't be able to.
• 59:09
  SPEAKER_01: We didn't get an invite, but we'd love to.
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_01: We would have loved it.
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, guys.
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_01: Terry Toll may be interested, so somebody get a hold of him.
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_02: Tammy, I'm gonna have Chris call you tomorrow.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_02: Call her.
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_02: If not call him, Tammy.
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_01: She's gonna be with me.
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_01: She's definitely gonna make it happen.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 59:25
  SPEAKER_02: We love you guys too.
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_02: Uh again, thanks for watching.
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna go ahead and answer the bigger questions that you guys hosted, and we didn't get to answer it live.
• 59:33
  SPEAKER_02: And uh we'll see you guys next week and uh have a good night.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_02: And tomorrow the roll carrier convention starts.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_02: If those of you that are here and need our info, come on down to my booth tomorrow.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, nice talking to you.
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_02: Live from Daytona.
• 59:45
  SPEAKER_02: Good night.
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_02: Have a good night.