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K-State Hoops Recap: What’s Real After the 1–1 Week? + HOT Board (S4//E48) · Cocaine Willie

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Cocaine Willy sent ya. Well, you know, it's February
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24th and the basketball season has basically been done for the
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past six to seven weeks. But let's go ahead and talk
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about this past week in K State men's basketball.
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Admittingly, it was a better week last week compared to the
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past. Oh, I don't know, say four or
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five weeks. The Cats did go one and one last
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week. We were recording our episode
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last week as K State was playing Scott Drew's Baylor Bears.
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But Baylor game was actually kind of a wild game for the
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Cats. A 90 to 74 victory that got
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Matthew Driscoll's first win as a head coach inside Bramwich
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Coliseum. And I believe five tries.
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But this really was a great performance, kind of I, I would
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say from a dynamic duo of guards.
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I'm thinking about it. Nate Johnson, PJ Haggerty.
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Nate had 33 points and 9 assists, so one off of a double
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double. And then PJ Haggerty, off of a
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15 of 23 shooting performance, had 34 points.
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Offensively, K State look like, you know, in some of the really
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good games this year, when they look good on the offensive side,
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they shot 57% from the field, 47% from three.
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But the thing that really kept him in this game, obviously, and
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kind of, you know, completely dominating this game was on the
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defensive side, holding Baylor to 40% shooting and 13% from 3.
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Although in the second-half, Baylor did kind of cut it to 9
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points with about 8 minutes to go.
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The Cats went on a little bit of a run, had a strong end of the
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second-half and admittingly for you could probably say maybe
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like 30 to 32 minutes of this game.
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K State looked pretty exciting. And who'd have thought maybe if
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they could have done this through the year.
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But kind of funny that it did happen against Baylor, thinking
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about historically and this being, you know, a game where
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Jerome Tang is no longer, you know, the K State men's
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basketball head coach. But looking at the Baylor game,
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what did you like about what you saw from this team after kind of
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all this turmoil that's been going on?
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Obviously they were, I mean, little healthier.
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It looked like. They look like they were all the
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way there in terms of, you know, McGriff kind of finally getting
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back into the rhythm of things. And then the the key to
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everything is Nate Johnson right now.
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Nate Johnson literally is carrying this team.
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And some would say that he could have been doing this throughout
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the season. And maybe that's where people
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were getting, you know, the the messaging that this team is
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peaking at the right time, that they're playing better
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basketball than they had previously when they had lost.
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I don't even know how many straight, but the Nate Johnson
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really is the only bright spot because PJ is doing what PJS
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been doing all season. And if you get a, a Nate Johnson
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like this, that is shooting out out of his mind and is being
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efficient with the ball in terms of dealing out assists, low
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turnover numbers. And is it being a a pest on both
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ends for the duration of the game?
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Like he's played, he played almost every minute of that game
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and an ungodly amount of steals, ran point guard very efficiently
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and then just scored the ball. Like you can't ask for a better
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performance than that. And that will propel you to wins
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versus bad teams and probably versus good teams.
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But you need a lot of help. And when you're that efficient
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feeling the ball out, good things are going to happen.
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So that Baylor game, Baylor's not very good.
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So that I mean, that's that's the first thing that we need to
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mention. They're not very good.
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But the pieces for what Driscoll wanted to do, I mean, that was
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probably, it couldn't have been maybe you know, the fifth lowest
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3 point takes that we had all season.
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I mean, we only took like what, 1415?
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Something. Like that insanely low number
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and we were, we hit like 9. So I mean, it's just we were
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just efficient with the thing with with the game and it's not
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what we really thought we were going to get with Driscoll
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Rawlins, if that makes sense. Like we thought we were going to
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be shooting threes every possession, going down and
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trying to get quick, quick turn around, quick possessions and
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just chucking that baby up. But that's not what we got.
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And it was the best performance in the Big 12 that we've seen so
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far, which is strange. I don't know.
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Strange. Yeah, I mean, you mentioned Nate
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Johnson and I think I, I believe, I think I've said this
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on kind of a previous show, but he when he plays the point and
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PJS the off guard, I think the offense does usually run better.
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Now we didn't necessarily see that, you know, in the Texas
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Tech game, Albia, Texas Tech is a very good team in the Big 12,
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obviously. But in the Baylor game, you
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really saw the the strength of having Nate Johnson kind of be
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your primary point guard guy, you know, ball handler, as you
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said. And it really does make the
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offense I think, run way more efficiently.
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Just looked better. Didn't necessarily have to
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settle for a lot of poor shots in that game.
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You know, they did have that kind of stretch in the
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second-half where, you know, it kind of looks similar to some
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other games that we have played this year, you know, where you
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do stop making things happen. But from that 8 minute mark on,
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they did a really good job of number one, bottling up Baylor
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on the offensive end, but also making some pretty big shots.
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And, you know, it was a kind of incredible to see that, you
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know, with those two guys kind of looking at it from a
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historical perspective, the last duo like that, I believe you'd
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be able to score more than 30 points.
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Michael Beasley and Bill Walker, 2007 with a team that ended up
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going the NCAA tournament that year, so.
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I mean that that that won't be happening this season, but I
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mean, it just it's kind of that what could have been, you know,
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it's unfortunate because mind you, if you know, and a guy like
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Abbi Bashir was out for that game, you know that that's where
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his spacing makes it even better.
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So you don't have like maybe necessarily a Taj Manning out on
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the floor, but maybe the defense suffers.
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I don't know. I don't know if there's a whole
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dynamic that he could have been with what could have been, but I
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don't know. I'm, I'm, I'm happy to see Nate
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Johnson because that's that was my guy going into the season.
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I thought he was going to be all worldly.
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I thought this is what we were going to get.
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Not not necessarily 33 points, but you know, a solid like 18 to
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close to 20 points a game and good rebounding numbers, good
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assist numbers and just a pest on defense.
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And you know, it, it kind of was the performance of the year for
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him. But it it you thought maybe this
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would propel this team into a game versus Texas Tech, which
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we're about to talk about that, you know, is short handed,
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missing their best player and hasn't been necessarily guard
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heavy all season. And we thought maybe potentially
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we had the better guard duo going into that game and it it
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just didn't matter. It just didn't matter.
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But you'll you'll just go. Through the numbers for us,
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brother. Yeah, I'd love to.
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Yeah. So obviously Saturday, Texas
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Tech, this team had a really big loss.
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JT Toppen was that got hurt in the Arizona State game.
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He's out for the season, which, you know, he's one of the best
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players in the country. And so for K State going into
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Lubbock, you may think, you know, after a Baylor win and
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Texas Tech maybe without their best player, that it might have
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been a closer, you know, closer final score.
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But K State lost by 28 points. So it was 100 to 72.
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Texas Tech beat K State K like it was a weird game because they
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the, the first half, this team, I thought this team was going to
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lose by 40. You know, at one point you're
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just, you know, I think it was like 34 to 12 or 32 to 14, you
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know, one of those. But K State cut it to 10 midway
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through the second-half. Texas Tech kind of went on a
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lull. K State just started making some
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shots, but then just absolute, you know, incredible second,
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second part of the second-half, you know, just not very good
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offensively, giving up a lot of stuff on the defensive end to
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get that 28 point deficit by the end of it.
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You know, it was, it was a game where K State just kind of
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struggled, you know, all around. Obviously in the defensive side
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they were not very good, but didn't really make a ton of
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threes. They were 6 and 20 from the
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three-point line. They did shoot 44%.
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That's not that's not great, but it could be a lot worse, you
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know? I mean, I've seen worse, but I
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don't know if I don't know what much worse would have got us.
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You know the the thing about? The shooting was that there were
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a lot of set shots that could have been, you know, juxtaposed
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to what we saw versus Baylor where it was a smooth, it was a
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smooth 20 shots here from the three-point line.
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And it was what did we have versus how many did we have
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versus Baylor? I think I just said the number.
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I'm not sure though, but or. 15. We had 15 No 17 threes from from
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in that Baylor game. So the numbers are similar, but
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you're not cashing in on it, you're not catching it.
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We had 18 assists in that Baylor game to 8 in the Texas Tech.
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It that's that just screams to me that we're not hitting the
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shots off of those those first passes.
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Like there's there's not enough assists, not enough baskets
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being made 44% when you're shooting 30 from the three,
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that's bad. That's not good.
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You're not you're not very efficient.
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You're going to, you're going to, I mean, if you're not
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crashing the board and getting the law off the offensive
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rebounds, you're going to lose by a lot because the other team,
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they're rebounding. They got 40 rebounds to your 28.
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And that's just another sign of what this K State team was
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constructed like, where you you're not physical enough on
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the interior. Buca's not skilled enough to
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grab a rebound or stay on the floor long enough to do it.
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Regret's never going to be that guy.
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He's playing Center for us and he's a stretch 4 at the most.
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He does not. I mean, he wants to score
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inside, but he's not. He's not battling for rebounds.
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It's that that's he. It's just not built right.
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And that Texas Tech, I mean, imagine if they had top and who
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is going to crash boards, do all The Dirty work and be skilled.
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And I mean, what did McGriff foul out?
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McGriff fouling out? I mean, that that was versus
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some, you know, versus lesser opponents than what you would
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have saw with JT top. And my Texas Tech team's still
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pretty good. But man, you thought you would
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have a fighter's chance with their missing their first, their
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best player that game and for the season, which is which we'll
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talk about later in NCAA tournament hopes and all that
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stuff. But man, it was just a bad game
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all around. You know, not not banging enough
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shots not and they and they pestered the ball and their
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guards really showed up efficient numbers.
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I think their worst shooting guard was like 5050 something
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percent. They they got whatever they
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wanted and scored at will. So it was tough.
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It was a tough day I but I kind of expected it.
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Though, Yeah. On the road it's.
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Tough. I mean, I think, you know, Buca
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played 4 minutes in this game. I honestly think that not having
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GT topping in the lineup kind of changed the complete dynamic of
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the Tech, this Texas Tech team and how he would typically
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defend them. And you can see it.
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We kind of had to play small through this game cost Andre
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Kostich, he played 18 minutes. CJ Jones played 23 minutes in
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this game. I I won't I won't say anything,
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but it it it was kind of a situation where I think it this
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Texas Tech team without GT top end was a matchup problem.
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I mean, it really, really was, you know, and, and, and if
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people haven't necessarily watched a lot of Texas Tech
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basketball, Christian Anderson is an exceptional point guard.
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He's a really, really good player.
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But Donovan Atwell, who, you know, he got 26 points in this
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game. I mean, this isn't he.
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He was really, really good. I I mean, he, he, yeah.
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But he's but he's their best 3 point shooter and it and it.
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Showed, it showed. We didn't have any, but because
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Nate had to stay on Anderson because he's our best defender
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and he had to stay on and he was getting cooked.
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But that was that's the problem. Like it, it's just one guy would
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beat you and then another guy would be right there and it and
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they were just better on the glass as a team.
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That's that's also the problem. They have 40 rebounds.
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We had 28. McGriff did did, all right,
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eight. But he found out, you know, like
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like 23 minutes. That's not enough.
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That is not. Enough.
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It was just it's it's yeah, that I think that team without JT
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Toppin is a matchup problem. And you know, Toppin, you could
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then play a little bit of a bigger Yeah, you would probably
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anticipate playing Buka Moore in that game. 4 minutes for your
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backup center is not great. You know, that's just not, not
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good. And that just shows, you know,
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playing Taj Manning at the five and four guards, that was going
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to potentially be your best chance to be competitive in this
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game if you started making some shots, didn't happen.
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We obviously saw the result there.
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So yeah, not a that's not a great, you know, 28 point loss
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is not great. I'll be it against Texas Tech.
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We'll see how they do as we get closer to the Big 12 tournament.
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Want to mention one game. You know, we tomorrow night we
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play at Colorado on last week's show.
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We did kind of talk at the end of the episode if we thought K
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State was going to win another game.
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And I did say yes and I got that.
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But admittingly, kind of looking at the kind of the, I guess
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next, how many games we got left here.
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So at Colorado, TCU at home, West Virginia at home and then
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at Kansas, this Colorado team is probably the, from a record
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perspective, worst record that we're going to be playing
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against in the next four games again on the road.
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And you know, probably going to be a pretty, pretty easy to get
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tickets if anybody's wanting to go to that game.
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But with Colorado tomorrow night, TCU on Saturday, give me
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what you think K State's record this week is going to be.
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I could see one in one. I could see one in one.
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I mean, it would be nice. Two and O is not off the table.
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I think this Colorado game could.
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If they could get this one on the road, I would feel a lot
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better about that TCU game. It's just depends on who shows
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up. What kind of team shows up
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because the shooting on the road is dreadful.
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So going to this Colorado team who's not all that good on
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defense, but it's just it's it's going to be tough.
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It's going to be tough. But I think a one and one
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performance is where where we land at.
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What is their last few games been?
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They had a win versus Oklahoma State, Big lost to BYU.
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They scored 44 points versus Texas Tech.
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Yeah, holy cannoli that. Beat Arizona State.
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And lost to Baylor, Man, I mean, they're right that it.
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That's kind of nuts. They beat Arizona, I don't know.
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I twice they had beat Utah and they beat TCU and Oklahoma
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State. OK.
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I'm going to give us a win versus Colorado and that.
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Give me two and O Give me two and O I'm feeling spicy.
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Give me two and O. Yeah, Have we the Colorado?
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Team already. They've not, no, we've now we've
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not played Colorado. I'm giving us the TCU because I
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think I, you know, thinking about, you know, obviously
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should have beat him in Fort Worth.
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I don't know if this Colorado team is that good.
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I guess my thing is can this team, they got to shoot pretty
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well on the road to win a game. So hopefully you know, if they
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can make some shots early on, get some good momentum.
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I I'm not, I don't know if I'm going to say 2 and O, I'm going
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to say one and one. This team doesn't deserve A2 and
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O production. It doesn't, but the problem with
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Colorado is they have match up nightmares like Dak is.
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I think that's how you say his name.
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Is it Dock or Dak? Dak, I think, yeah.
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I mean, he, I saw him earlier in the season, I can't remember who
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they were playing, but I mean, he's a freak.
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He's all of seven, he's all of seven foot, handles the ball.
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And I mean, it's it's going to be tough to deal with him.
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I don't know who we're putting on him, how we're going to deal
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with that. But I think this is probably
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going to be the PJ Haggerty game.
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I think I think him versus Isaiah Johnson, freshman versus
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senior or junior, whatever the veteran versus the the young
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buck, they have similar games in my opinion.
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So I think PJ kind of shows up for this one.
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I think PJ kind of shows up for this one.
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Give me PJ Haggerty with a 30 biscuit and on the road.
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Give me PJ 30 and he he he misses less than two free
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throws. Wow.
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That is. That's the thing That's crazy.
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Yeah, that's a that's crazy talk.
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No way. He'll miss his first one, and
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he'll miss his last one. Those are the two he misses.
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I'll miss the first. He gets that line the first time
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he misses. He's done for two, no?
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He calibrates and then. He gets a little wack.
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Yeah. That's good.
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That's good. Yeah, I'll.
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I'll give you that one. All right, well, let's just stay
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on the men's basketball topic and get into updates on the hot
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board. So obviously for the next
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handful of weeks, we're going to be hearing, you know, what's
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going on with K State basketball head coach recruiting.
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We talked a little bit last week about kind of the supposed maybe
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early candidates on the hot board, Jared Calhoun, Eric Olin,
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Alan Huss. Talked a little bit about like
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Andy Kennedy and Casey Alexander, some of these names.
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But man, the past handful of days we have a trio of Chris's
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that apparently have entered the hot board party.
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We'll start with #1 and this one, who'd have thought there
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might be, you know, a guy like this coming in?
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But Chris Beard is apparently one of those Chris's that's
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being talked about. For anybody who's not aware.
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Chris Beard, current head coach at Ole Miss, brought them to the
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Sweet 16 last year. Former head coach at University
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of Texas, Texas Tech. Some donors apparently want him.
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Couple other Chris's. Chris Holtman, the DePaul head
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coach and former head coach at Ohio States.
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And Butler, right? I'm pretty sure had some pretty
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good success at Butler and Ohio State with those teams in the
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North State tournament. Has DePaul this year, has
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improved DePaul this year compared to his first year of
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last year. And then Chris Mack, who was the
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Xavier head coach and head coach at Louisville and is now at the
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College of Charleston. 3 Chris's I mean, I, you know.
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Yeah, I mean, not the most excite when I first OK, so when
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I first heard Chris Beard's name, you know, we had mentioned
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him suddenly in a a previous episode.
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I would not recommend going to look for that comment that I
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made about him. But when I first heard it, I
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said, you know, that would be an excitement level to the the
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basketball program with a, you know, a coach that is very
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visible out in the spotlight, has a huge name, would bring a
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lot of interest. But then I thought about it.
26:22
Probably not for the right reasons, probably not for the
26:26
and coming off of Jerome Tan, who is a media darling, I guess
26:30
you could say that's probably not what we need, probably not
26:36
what we need for the program. He has a track record of being a
26:43
good basketball coach, which I don't think anybody can deny.
26:48
I don't know where Ole Miss is standing right now.
26:50
I don't think it's too hot. But his tenures with Texas Tech,
26:56
Texas, there were some bright spots in there that you would
27:01
you could see yourself seen in Manhattan.
27:06
But the problem is it's just that's a lot.
27:10
It's it's coming with a lot. I know it's a law.
27:14
It was a long time ago, but it, it does, it's still there.
27:18
That stink is still there kind of so that I, I, I reversed my
27:26
thinking on that. And I think it's a no for me.
27:29
I think that's a no for me. Chris Holtzman by on the other
27:34
hand, not that good of a basketball coach, but he's kind
27:42
of clean. He's kind of a, you know, he's
27:44
not the oldest fella. He's he's had some good
27:50
recruiting pedigree at Ohio State.
27:52
I mean, I've listened to that 97.1 radio all the times the fan
27:58
just listening to them talk about back in the day when they
28:00
used to talk about Chris Holtman, he could recruit his
28:03
butt off. Now getting his team to believe
28:06
and buy in and do all the things that they need to do wasn't
28:10
always there for the Buckeyes. And I don't know what he needs
28:14
to do and what he's done with DePaul.
28:16
Like you said, he's he's improved off of last season, but
28:19
Paul was arguably one of the worst basketball programs, you
28:23
know, in America. They were so bad at 2 two or
28:27
three seasons ago. So maybe he's getting his chops
28:33
together and he's he'll be a a decent basketball coach.
28:36
But going into the Big 12 is a totally different monster.
28:40
This is a killer league out here.
28:43
We played DePaul this season, didn't we?
28:46
No, or was that last we've played?
28:50
We've played DePaul recently. I feel like we.
28:54
Have we? We played him the Michael
28:59
Beasley's here. And by recent, that is recent.
29:05
That is recent, yeah. And.
29:10
Then Chris Mack. I mean, that's, is that worth
29:13
even talking about? I don't know.
29:14
Chris Mack. I don't know.
29:16
He is a beautiful bald though, right?
29:19
You know, if that is, if that is what we're looking at, he sexy,
29:23
bald he, he would be at the top of the list.
29:27
Let me start with Chris Beard. I do not believe you can hire a
29:34
guy who was fired with cause at a previous institution when you
29:41
are in a middle of a lawsuit about firing your coach for
29:45
cause. I feel like that just does not
29:50
play well on the outside in the media.
29:55
I just don't think that's going to that is that is going to play
29:59
off his the the personal situation that he had with the
30:10
domestic violence. I know he was not found guilty
30:15
without or the charges were dropped for me.
30:21
I don't, I don't like that situation.
30:26
I I do it's hard because he obviously if if his if his name
30:34
is getting floated out there, he wants out of out of Ole Miss,
30:36
right. And let's just say, for example,
30:42
let's talk about a job that might open in the Big 12,
30:45
Arizona State or Cincinnati. I don't know if actually
30:51
Cincinnati's going to open anymore.
30:52
But if Chris Beard came into the Big 12, would you be afraid of
31:00
him at Arizona State building that program up?
31:06
I I mean, he's shown at Texas Tech the ability like he got, he
31:11
got that program to two Elite Eights in a national
31:15
championship game, Ole Miss A-Team that has had little
31:21
historical significance in basketball.
31:23
In his second year, he got into the Sweet 16.
31:27
He's I would be if like if he goes to Arizona State or he go,
31:32
you know, I have a feeling he would do well like at another
31:38
program. So I think that then I guess in
31:44
my head I'm like, OK, if he comes to K state.
31:47
So is it just that it's the personal stuff, like it's the
31:49
things that he had going on? He's a ship jumper too, though
31:54
he's a. Ship Jumper He.
31:55
He moves around. So I mean, are you really
31:58
building for something or I mean, what, what's the long term
32:02
plan? I mean, what, how much do you
32:04
want of Chris Beard? Is this to get the program jump
32:07
started back up to again, 'cause he, like you said, he's shown
32:11
the potential to do that with multiple programs and, you know,
32:16
with some good success. But is he a ship jumper?
32:19
Does he want that next step? Because he was at where I think
32:23
he wanted to be with UT and then should hit the fan.
32:30
Has to bounce goes to Ole Miss has success and then you're
32:34
hearing those rumors of with the K State thing he wants out of
32:37
there maybe potentially to the next bigger thing to take that
32:41
next big step to go somewhere else.
32:44
I don't know where where after K State is bigger than that what
32:47
he's what his aspirations are. But you obviously saw what he
32:52
was doing at Texas Tech in the Big 12.
32:55
And I mind you that I mean, the Big 12 started to grow more as a
32:59
humongous basketball conference after Chris Beard had left.
33:04
But he had Texas Tech doing their thing, like you said, with
33:08
those two Elite Eights in a national championship.
33:12
He had Texas Tech at the pinnacle of what Big 12
33:17
basketball was. So and is so that, I mean, I,
33:22
that's, that's another part of the Chris Baird saga that you
33:26
would, you would be looking at. And, and if, if Chris Beard is
33:29
jumping on to the next program, obviously you've done well at
33:32
Kansas State. But like you said, what it, like
33:34
I said, what is the plan? I mean, is there a bigger plan,
33:38
a long term plan with Chris Beard or is it just to get the
33:41
program back to going? Because we're, we're coming off
33:44
of three bad seasons. So something's got to change.
33:48
Yeah, Yeah, it's an interesting kind of situation because I, I
33:52
mean, again, if his name's getting floated out there,
33:55
there's obviously genuine interest.
33:59
I just don't know how it would be taken if it actually came to
34:03
fruition. But I guess we'll have to wait
34:07
and see. You know it.
34:11
Yeah, it's it's an interesting. One, what's your, what's your
34:14
thoughts on Holtzman though? I mean.
34:17
Yeah, I it's unexciting, Yeah. But I think, you know, I read.
34:25
So if you look at him like his time at Butler and Ohio State,
34:31
he was in the NCAA tournament every year for a six or
34:35
seven-year span and he was like a six or seven seed on average.
34:42
You you would take that like if you're six or seven seed seven
34:48
years in a row, just, you know, like you really would would want
34:54
that because you know, yeah, you know, six or seven seed, you're
34:59
most likely going to, you know, make it to the second round.
35:03
You upset get to the Sweet 16 out of that.
35:06
But that's that's a pretty good like success, you know, success
35:11
statistic to look at the this the thing at the Paul.
35:18
I I think there's going to be like an automatic, you know,
35:21
portion of the fan base that's like, I'm lucky we're looking at
35:23
the head coach at DePaul like because you know what
35:27
historically DePaul is from a basketball program perspective,
35:31
but that is probably the toughest job in the Big East,
35:35
maybe one of the biggest or one of the toughest Power 6
35:40
basketball jobs. To Is that Chicago?
35:44
Yeah, it's in Chicago and he has that team in his second year
35:51
improved. I mean, it's, it's just, it's an
35:56
unexciting, it's it's not exciting, but you look at the
36:01
potential coaching candidates and outside of probably two or
36:06
three that maybe you're in your top tier, it's a very unexciting
36:11
bunch. Unless you, you know, there's
36:17
discussions under the rug about, you know, some different coaches
36:22
across the power 5 that might have interest.
36:25
So Holman might be end up being a really good one to to come in
36:32
with proven success in the past. It's just unexciting.
36:35
I mean, that's. My thing is like, OK, yeah, you
36:40
could look at the like the recents this recent trend that
36:44
he has with how bad it ended at Ohio State and where he's at
36:48
with the Paul. But you got, like you said, you
36:52
got to look at the stretches that were really, really
36:55
positive. And he can recruit, man.
36:57
I mean, a name familiar with people in the Missouri, Kansas
37:02
region is EJ Liddell. And he took that guy right from
37:05
under our noses. And I mean, that was a monster,
37:08
monster recruitment. He was awesome.
37:10
And he was great with the Buckeyes.
37:12
I mean, it's just he, he it crashed and burned very similar
37:18
to how Jerome Tangs was where it was.
37:21
You know, you had the the real consistent.
37:24
Well, I guess Jerome Tangs wasn't very consistent, but you
37:27
had the the highs with the NCAA tournament appearances,
37:31
obviously not going very deep as far as you'd want, but and then
37:36
it just stopped. It just like completely stopped.
37:39
So that worries me. But I, I can envision in him
37:44
being here, I could honestly see that and head coaching
37:48
experience something that we need.
37:50
He knows how to run a program. It's just can he win basketball
37:56
games as a coach? And putting the staff together
38:01
also would be kind of fun because I think there would be
38:03
names that are like that I'm familiar with that would get me
38:08
involved. Because these guys that, like
38:09
you said, it's not the who's who of it, the coaching carousel
38:15
that we're going to see involved with Kansas State, even though
38:18
we're first to market. It's just like, who are these
38:21
guys? Who, who, what are we really
38:23
getting? Because I mean, it's either
38:26
we're going with Calhoun and I mean, he's had some success at
38:31
Utah State, but it's, that's it. I mean, that's where he's that's
38:35
where he's made his hay. And you're putting all your
38:37
chips on them. That guy.
38:40
I don't know. I don't know.
38:42
I think Chris Holtman would. Chris Holtman is probably third.
38:47
I still have the guy from New Mexico and I'm going to.
38:54
And I'll stay with Calhoun just because, I mean, everybody is so
38:57
high on him. There has to be a reason for
38:59
that. Yeah, maybe I'm, maybe I'm just
39:02
a, you know, a Gopher. I'm just, I'm going.
39:05
For it that just. I'll just go for whatever you
39:07
guys say, but I like Holtzman. I like Holtzman a lot.
39:10
It's just can he win basketball games as a coach?
39:13
Because we're we're coming off of Jerome Tang where he didn't
39:17
coach at all. Yeah.
39:19
No offense to to him, but like he just wasn't a good in game
39:25
basketball coach and he didn't have a plan.
39:28
I think Holtman would have a plan and he'll recruit his ass
39:31
off, so I like that. You got me.
39:36
You got me more excited about it.
39:39
We'll, we'll see. I feel like, you know what,
39:41
every week we're going to be able to do this.
39:43
It's going to be. Some that's a that's a follow up
39:46
question I have for you. When do we need to have this
39:49
wrapped up? I mean, I don't think there's
39:53
any way it gets wrapped up until the.
39:57
End of March. No, it would be earlier than
40:00
that. I think think so.
40:03
Well, it's just I I think it's just dependent on where teams
40:08
land in the post season space. So, you know, for Utah State,
40:13
they're probably going to the NCAA Tournament and so.
40:18
The third week of I guess the second to third week of March,
40:22
you know, I, I think is where you're trying to wrap this up.
40:28
I'll be it. You know, again, there could be
40:31
conversations with coaches right now that are in the SEC or Big
40:35
10, you know, mid schools that may make the NCAA tournament
40:39
that they, you know, they may not know until the end of March.
40:44
So I mean, the quicker you wrap this up, the issue with that is
40:48
why is it so quick? Because ultimately it it is
40:53
going to get wrapped up when that coach's season is done.
40:58
And if their season is wrapped up on the first, you know, four
41:05
day. So Tuesday, like, OK, you're
41:09
that team made the NCAA tournament.
41:10
But that's, you know, I don't know, But OK, so like.
41:15
Chris Holtman's Chris Holtman's timeline for when he got fired
41:19
at he got fired at Ohio State. He was fired on fired, parted
41:27
ways with Ohio State on February 14th.
41:31
That's like a similar story, a similar timeline, and he took
41:35
the he was hired by DePaul on March 14th.
41:41
OK. So like if I put that in my my
41:45
timeline, like I could see that and then you're off and running
41:50
because I don't. But how was the how was the
41:52
windows work for basketball for? Portal yeah, I mean, if you're
41:56
going for a sitting head coach, you're you are at the mercy of
42:01
the conference tournaments and then whether that coach is
42:05
coaching in a postseason tournament.
42:09
So I I think with how that worked with Holtman, obviously
42:13
was, you know, he was fired and then DePaul, you know, once
42:17
you're fired, he has the ability to talk to anybody and, you
42:20
know, got kind of zoomed in with the pulse.
42:22
So I, I think I mean, you say late March, so you know, that
42:26
could be like the last week of March.
42:29
I could easily see the 3rd or 4th week of March.
42:33
I know K State wants to wrap it up, but I think, you know, they
42:37
also, I think potentially want to see, you know, the high coach
42:41
go farther, you know, if that's the case.
42:45
So, yeah, it'll be be interesting.
42:49
But we'll be keeping this discussion going out pretty much
42:52
weekly now until we do hear about who's going to be taking
42:56
over the cats here for next season.
42:59
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For this week's question, Chef, tell me the best steak you've
44:57
ever eaten. OK, I had AI think it was a
45:09
10/10 or 8 oz filet from Cameron Mitchell.
45:13
It was. I was very hesitant because it,
45:19
you know, it was literally encrusted with peppercorns and I
45:24
love pepper and I was like, holy crap.
45:28
Like it looks like it was rolled in gravel.
45:31
That's how much peppercorns were on the outside of this.
45:34
But I mean, when I tell you, you cutting that thing as the most
45:39
tender filet that I've ever had in my life with a little bit of
45:45
like like, I don't even know if it was like a a pepper gravy,
45:52
but it was like some kind of sauce, velvety smooth.
45:55
And I cut into that thing. And those peppercorns actually
45:58
just were mild. It wasn't a harsh like black
46:03
pepper grinder to your face. It was a mild like spice.
46:08
It was beautiful. I'm going to have to I'm going
46:11
to look up the because I'm sure it's still on the menu.
46:14
I'm going to look it up. It's a Cameron Mitchell, though,
46:17
fire. OK.
46:18
I don't know. Do you have Cameron?
46:21
Mitchell's out there. I don't even know what that is.
46:24
OK, so he's a, he's an Ohio guy. Yeah, for sure.
46:29
Like you're saying his name like you know, should I know he's?
46:33
Like a famous chef. Famous chef, famous guy.
46:36
Well, I'll give a shout out to my buddy up in New York.
46:41
He made one of the best steaks I've ever had in my entire life.
46:44
And you know the cooking process?
46:47
Sous video, a sous video and a seer it is.
46:53
I love it. It was buttery, like so soft, I
46:59
mean incredible. Like I, I, I really think, you
47:03
know, you can get, you know, like you don't have to go to an
47:08
expensive steakhouse to have steak.
47:10
You just need a cast iron pan. And then if you have a sous
47:13
video, that's helpful. I mean, if not though, you know,
47:18
you put it, you cook in the cast iron, baste it, butter, herbs,
47:25
herbs, Rosemary. I want a hard sear on mine.
47:28
I want a hard. Sear, yeah.
47:31
I need a crust. I need a.
47:33
Crust, yeah. It is.
47:36
It is essential, yeah. You get that sous V probably
47:39
around 120, I'd say 129°, 129. You get that 129° sous video
47:50
steak for two hours with some butter and the Rosemary and
47:55
thyme in the bag. Underrated a slice of onion in
48:00
there as well. I think that brings a lot of
48:03
flavors to it. You get that and you put you get
48:07
that out of the sous video. Get it on some paper towels, dry
48:11
it down, put it on a plate and let that baby rest over there.
48:14
Let it get familiar with the air.
48:17
Let let that baby sit over. There for a while, familiar with
48:20
the air. Get it familiar with the air.
48:23
You want that moisture to stay there, just right there.
48:27
You want it to dry out on the outside.
48:29
Because then when you throw that baby in a ripping hot pan,
48:34
searing it off, get that hard sear on there, and then you can
48:37
turn your temperature down to probably like a two or three,
48:41
get that butter in there and just start basting over the top.
48:44
With the garlic. With the garlic.
48:47
Oh. Man, that's.
48:48
A and then you take it out of that ripping hot pan and you sit
48:52
it on a wire rack and you let that baby get familiar with the
48:55
air again. You want those juices to stay in
48:58
there. You do.
48:59
Not want to cut. Directly into that steak.
49:02
Do not do that. That is a mistake by many, many,
49:08
you know, venturing chefs as to you, you're hungry as hell.
49:12
You want to get right to that steak.
49:13
Don't cut into that baby yet, especially if you're talking
49:17
with a steak probably about over an inch and 1/2 in thickness.
49:21
The juices are in there, brother.
49:23
You can't let those babies out. And then when you let that baby
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49:31
Got into it. Now you're ready to devour.
49:33
Man, that's a perfect medium rare steak with a hard sear and
49:37
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God damn, I got me one steak. Yeah, you can catch Chef on his
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Let's go ahead for the last part of our show called Shooting the
50:10
Shit, which admittingly, as we are getting into the month of
50:15
March, everyone's favorite, maybe favorite college playoff
50:20
series known as the NCAA Tournament is upcoming in three
50:25
weeks. And crazy enough, Big 12 looking
50:31
really good, potentially going to have eight teams in the NCAA
50:34
tournament per Joe Leonardi's bracketology that did come out
50:39
today. 8 The 8 schools, Arizona, Houston, Iowa State's Texas
50:45
Tech, Kansas, BYUUCF, and TCU is in the last four teams in the
50:52
tournament, which is kind of crazy considering what I've seen
50:56
from TCU here recently. But with looking at this from
51:02
the Big 12 perspective, since majority of our listeners are
51:05
going to be Big 12 focused out of the eight teams, and I'm
51:10
going to say don't count TCU in this.
51:12
So you have 7 teams. What team do you think is going
51:16
to get upset early in the NCAA Tournament this year?
51:21
OK so this is going to sound like I'm completely hating for
51:26
rivalry purposes only but Kansas I could see them if what is his
51:31
name? Is it Peterson or Patterson?
51:33
Darren Peterson? Darren Peterson is not locked in
51:37
as you know preserving himself and is only playing 18 minutes a
51:40
game. They could see themselves
51:43
getting booted quick. I mean, they do have a very
51:46
talented team money. They are really, really good.
51:49
They're not the best Kansas team that we've seen in a long time,
51:52
but Peterson definitely adds something to that team because
51:58
his talent is is undeniable. It is very undeniable and it and
52:04
it and I would say 1A is Kansas 1B is BYU because if the bonds
52:10
is in foul trouble and now he gives his all every time he
52:13
steps on that court and he's on a historic run right now with
52:17
BYU. He's putting up some video game
52:20
my player 2K numbers right now. If he is, if he's in foul
52:27
trouble or something, you know, no knock on wood that something
52:30
happens to him or whatever. BYU outside of him is really,
52:35
really limited. So I could see that definitely
52:39
being the one A1B scenario for me.
52:43
Man Kansas is obviously like an extremely interesting team
52:48
because they are just they could be completely shit at Kansas
52:55
Cincinnati game and then two nights later dominate a Houston
53:00
team that I mean Houston's been on a little bit of AI think
53:06
they've lost. I want to say their last three
53:09
games yeah, they've lost their last three games.
53:13
I'll be it. It was against two teams in the
53:16
top ten and then Kansas who was in the top 15.
53:21
But I the NCAA tournament has just been such like a tough like
53:28
for the past few years for KU and I don't know, yeah, if
53:33
you're gonna get Peterson at his full and Kansas will probably be
53:39
like a four seed. And we've seen what happened in
53:42
the past with that. So I, I was gonna say Kansas and
53:49
I was also gonna say BYU because Richie Saunders not being on,
53:54
you know, he's out for the rest of the season for BYU.
53:58
That's a team that is very talented.
54:01
But Richie Saunders was kind of one of the, I would say the most
54:04
underrated players in the Big 12 because he was very much being
54:08
overshadowed by AJ Debansa. So BYU will probably be like a
54:13
six seed. And I, you know, I that's kind
54:18
of a classic like, you know, 611 matchup or 611 matchup.
54:24
So I you'll trend for Kansas for your one, AI will pick BYU as
54:30
the team that I think is going to get upset early.
54:34
And where? Where did they have Texas Tech
54:35
penciled in at? What seed?
54:38
Because I don't know. That would even be an upset
54:41
because, you know, with top and they they, I like how they
54:44
brought that up versus the in the Kansas State game.
54:47
They were talking about like the the, you know, the people that
54:52
are putting the tournament together have the ability to,
54:56
you know, project what they see with Texas Tech and going to
55:00
really affect, even if they're winning games, what they look
55:03
like without topping. So I mean, that's probably my
55:07
strong too, because they have they have they have a good
55:11
strong guard. But if they're if they're not a
55:14
higher seed, you know, I don't see them how it would even be an
55:18
upset. They're projected as a four seed
55:22
as of right now, Texas Tech. So they're they are also kind of
55:27
an interesting team. I think where we will be able to
55:29
really judge is the Big 12 tournament and how that might go
55:34
to to really kind of see. But Tech is one of those teams
55:38
that I think, you know, you lose, you lose the best player
55:45
in the Big 12 and you would expect that they're going to
55:47
kind of, you know, take a falling off, but they may not
55:50
miss a beat and, you know, kind of figure it out, especially
55:53
with Christian Andersen at the point.
55:57
My next question. So thinking about those eight
55:59
teams, what is a team that will go on a run?
56:02
And what I would say here is maybe don't pick like Arizona,
56:06
who's going to be a one seed, but thinking about a team that
56:12
you think may go on a run I can start.
56:18
So I think looking at all these teams I hate I this is another
56:25
one that I kind of hate to say, but I think I.
56:27
Was the. I think Iowa State is going to
56:30
be watching Iowa State. First off, the game that they
56:35
played last Monday was an exceptional game when they were
56:41
playing Houston and Ames obviously won that kind of
56:45
really with last minute or so. But I look at that team and I
56:50
think this team, as long as they have everybody healthy, I think
56:55
is built to win games in the NCAA Tournament.
56:58
You have a guy in Manchilovich who is an incredible scorer,
57:02
especially from three. Joshua Jefferson has been
57:06
really, really good. Buchanan and then obviously
57:09
Lipsy at the point if TJ Alterberger is going to fight.
57:15
Like I, I feel like this is the year almost kind of like, you
57:18
know, Purdue and like Matt Painter not being able to get
57:21
his team into the Final Four. You know, this and that.
57:24
They've always been upset. I think this is the year that
57:27
Iowa State really has to like make make something happen
57:30
because Lipsy obviously graduates after this year.
57:34
I'm Shilovich is probably going to the NBA.
57:37
You I think you really kind of have to make a run here to get
57:42
the Final Four or at least to the Elite 8.
57:44
So I am going with Iowa State as that team.
57:48
Yeah, and I would go Iowa State as well.
57:51
That's like where my head went directly to.
57:55
I think because of their success in a regular season, they're
57:59
going to have such a good seating and depending on what
58:02
region they are, you know, they're good.
58:04
Their fans are going to travel. That is going to be an absolute
58:07
show when Iowa State is really, really moving in the NCAA
58:11
tournament. And I don't know where who's
58:14
hosting this year, but they'll probably get some two games in
58:18
the Midwest that are just absolutely packed full with Iowa
58:21
State fans. But obviously the team that I
58:25
would also think that would go on a run because this is just
58:27
what they've proven that they do, is Houston.
58:31
Houston is one of those teams that they've they've proven it,
58:36
they've done it. Obviously they've gone on a lot,
58:38
a rough three games. Two of them have been somewhat
58:42
close. I, I think they got handled.
58:45
Obviously they got handled by Kansas, but I they're going to
58:51
finish up these last three games.
58:53
They're going to dominate these last three games and then going
58:55
into the Big 12 tournament, they could just get hot.
58:58
They can start shooting the lights out.
58:59
These are it's just one of those teams that it's well-rounded and
59:05
it's it's brought together by arguably this a top three coach
59:11
in the Big 12 and probably a top five coach or you know, yeah,
59:16
top. Is he a top 10 coach in the
59:18
country? Yeah, I would say he's top 10
59:20
coach in the country. Samson.
59:22
Yeah, yeah. Is he, is he what?
59:25
Where do you have him in the Big 12?
59:28
Is he one? Is he 2?
59:30
I think he's probably two or three.
59:33
I think selves won. I think selves won but I would
59:38
probably put him at 2:00. Who your Your other options are
59:44
Tommy Lloyd. Lloyd, that's where I was also
59:47
go, but he hasn't really proven much recently.
59:51
Yeah, they got to the Elite 8 last year.
59:54
Did they? I don't remember.
59:57
They're a. Really good.
59:58
They're a really good basketball.
59:59
Yeah, yeah. Even though that was part of the
1:00:02
dealer right now. Oh geez, I don't know, but.
1:00:08
Yeah, give me, give me Houston. I I just, you've got to have you
1:00:12
got to be able to prove it. And they've proven it over the
1:00:15
years that they know what to do in March and how they can go on
1:00:19
run. So I think it's, it's always
1:00:21
kind of set up for a team like Houston.
1:00:23
It's it's just, that's just in their DNA.
1:00:25
So I'm going to, I'm going to go Iowa State and I'm going to go
1:00:29
to Houston. So those are my 2.
1:00:31
Those are my 2. Runners all right, perfect.
1:00:34
And then my last question and I in the script I did put it what
1:00:39
team makes it to the Final four? But I actually want What team do
1:00:42
you think makes it to the national championship game?
1:00:47
Hodge I would have to. I mean, it just depends on draws
1:00:54
to me, man, it's crazy. How how?
1:00:59
Yeah, the eye test, I would say depending on what Houston does,
1:01:04
like I think they can go on runs in March, man, I think they're
1:01:06
good. Arizona is a real heavy
1:01:09
favorite. They're just so big.
1:01:12
They're just so strong and they're, I thought they were an
1:01:15
older team. They're not.
1:01:18
They're not they're. Somewhat young.
1:01:22
I mean, it's NBA talent, so that probably won't be there very
1:01:24
much longer. But man, they're so big.
1:01:28
So give me Arizona as probably the team that's kind of going to
1:01:32
be in the national championship. They, they just, they'll
1:01:35
probably get to the, they'll probably get to the tournament.
1:01:39
They'll probably have one close game.
1:01:41
And then they're just going to smother other teams like they're
1:01:43
going to smother them to death. They're going to be out West the
1:01:46
entire time. And I'm, I'm going to look it up
1:01:50
now. I'm just going to look up who's
1:01:51
hosting the NCAA tournament this year, but I'm going to go
1:01:54
Arizona. Yeah, well, Arizona was going to
1:01:57
be mine too because I said at the beginning of basketball
1:02:00
season that Arizona was going to win the national championship.
1:02:04
So I'm going to be picking it, picking them.
1:02:07
But I mean the the one thing that I will say about Arizona,
1:02:12
because Co Pete has not been playing for that team, but they
1:02:18
they are just really good across the board.
1:02:21
And the incredible thing about it.
1:02:24
And I just pulled up the roster because I just think about like
1:02:28
roster construction and how for K State, they pulled this, you
1:02:31
know, they kind of went overseas, you know, and you
1:02:35
know, recruited this year. Just get where these players
1:02:40
from Arizona, Netherlands, England, Australia, France,
1:02:45
Senegal, Germany, Lithuania, South Sudan.
1:02:49
It sounds like a guy that's coached at Gonzaga.
1:02:53
Yeah, exactly that. Like it all like makes sense.
1:02:56
It all 100% makes sense, but like he just has done such a
1:03:02
great job of kind of trying to mold and mold and kind of be
1:03:07
like Mark few, but do it at a little bit of a different
1:03:10
environment. This He is also a guy that has
1:03:13
to make it to the final four this year.
1:03:15
Like, I if you get upset in the Sweet 16 or I, I mean, even the
1:03:22
Elite 8, you it's not, it's not going to be great because people
1:03:28
are going to continuously talk about how Tommy Lloyd can't do
1:03:31
anything in the NCAA Tournament. So it almost might be a blessing
1:03:36
to lose early in the Big 12 tournament this year.
1:03:38
Like it might. It might.
1:03:40
Be the thing about like he's not he'll never have those teams
1:03:46
that are upset like, well, this team in particular is not a team
1:03:51
that's going to get upset early because those teams that get
1:03:55
upset super early, like versus like a team like, I don't know,
1:03:58
just throw a team out there Princeton or like Belmont or
1:04:02
something like that. Those teams that are well oiled
1:04:04
machines that just run their stuff and get you in situations
1:04:10
where if they're not shooting good from three and the other
1:04:14
team is, they're going to lose. This team's so big and athletic.
1:04:19
They're not like a Purdue where it's Zach Edie who's a statue
1:04:23
and then a bunch of other non super athletic guys.
1:04:29
These guys are freaks from top to bottom and they're they're
1:04:33
just going to smother teams. I I honestly think that is it's
1:04:37
kind of been written that it's going to be like this, But I
1:04:41
think if they're shooting all right, they're just going to
1:04:45
bludgeon people to death. And the, the, the sites, by the
1:04:50
way, are Buffalo, NY, Greenville, SC, OK C, Portland
1:04:56
OR, Tampa, FL, Philly, San Diego and San Jose.
1:05:01
So they're going to probably stay out in San Diego or San.
1:05:05
Jose, San Diego. Yeah.
1:05:07
And then then it's DC and Illinois for the, you know, the
1:05:13
regionals, which doesn't seem right because there should be
1:05:16
two more, right? Well, no San Jose, they're they
1:05:20
would be San Jose. San Jose is a regional site.
1:05:26
Is it? So Bracketology is putting them
1:05:28
in San Diego and then San Jose. For the regional, So yeah, OK.
1:05:34
And then it's then it's Indy for the final four.
1:05:37
Yeah. Which I don't like, but that's
1:05:39
fine. You know.
1:05:41
Yeah, they're they're going to stay out West the entire time
1:05:44
until they have to get to Indianapolis.
1:05:46
Yeah, they'll be again. I thought they're are going to
1:05:52
win so. Well, Kansas State in two
1:05:55
seasons. Well, in case, maybe next
1:05:57
season, maybe next season, Chris Holtman will have us rolling.
1:06:05
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