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Scott Owen: Leadership, Community & Building What Matters · Beyond the Break

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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Beyond the Break, a podcast where we dive deep into the stories behind today's entrepreneurs, leaders, and change makers, and we uncover what it takes to build something that lasts.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's get started.
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  SPEAKER_00: Beyond the Break.
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  SPEAKER_04: All right, Scott Owen, welcome to Beyond the Break.
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  SPEAKER_04: Thanks, Chris.
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  SPEAKER_04: I'm glad to be here.
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  SPEAKER_04: Great to have you here.
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  SPEAKER_04: Are you ready for this?
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  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_04: All right, well, we have a real treat here today.
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  SPEAKER_04: We have Scott Owen, who's a real presence in our community, an ultimate volunteer, actually volunteer of the year 2025.
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  SPEAKER_04: And today we're going to talk about two different topics.
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  SPEAKER_04: One is your impact of the youth sports community, both in football across boys and girls, and then also your endeavors in the world of entrepreneurship.
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  SPEAKER_04: So really uh two different directions, and I'm I'm excited to get right into it.
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  SPEAKER_04: So why don't you give a little bit of background of what got you interested in being a coach and being a board member in the youth sports scene here in Pana Vidra?
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I'm glad to be here, Chris.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um you know, I I have a passion, like you, for um, you know, for being involved in our community, uh kind of carrying our weight, so to speak.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh I love sports, played sports growing up.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh my dad was a coach, always coached me.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, so it's felt like a natural calling for me.
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  SPEAKER_02: I feel like uh coaching is a way that um we can really impact um the youth, um, other coaches, people all around us, people in the community.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um so it's just something that was kind of in my blood, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: We moved down here uh in 2010 and got uh pretty involved in uh both football, youth football, and youth lacrosse, and um, you know, really never looked back.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh so a lot like you and and have known you for years and appreciate what you do in our community, but um you know that's uh that's been a big part of our lives, and um, you know, among other things.
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  SPEAKER_04: What's interesting is you work in the world of volunteership, which is more and more rare these days because so much of youth sports has become monetized.
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  SPEAKER_04: And the other thing I think that's uh special about what you do is everything you do is in our community, our zip code, not you know, broad recruiting across the state and not really with a focus on getting college scholarship.
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  SPEAKER_04: So talk about what you try and emphasize the most in all the sports that you coach.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's a great point.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we in this community are very blessed, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: We have uh a number of people that carry uh or that do a lot of things um to really make this this thing go, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's coaches, right, it's board members, uh, it's parents, it's kids, it's trainers, it's teachers, educators, right?
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's just a special community we live in.
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  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, I think um, you know, we have uh the success in life, the success on the field and off the field because of all of those things, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: I do have a huge passion for this community.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, I really feel like it's important.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we can have a huge impact on these kids, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Um wiser people than me have told me, right, when you coach a kid for four years, as I'm a high school coach now, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Coach a kid for four years so that'll impact them for the next 40 years, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And I think that does apply whether we're coaching kindergartners, elementary school, middle school, high school, which, right, I know you've done the same thing.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, or you're in a leader leadership position on a board or something like that, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Having that forward-thinking mentality, that um eternal uh impact, uh, the legacy that you're trying to help leave within the community, and then and then build these kids up to where they're wanting to do the same, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And make an impact, whether it's on the world, on their community, um, in their profession, uh, and on others.
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  SPEAKER_04: You know, it's funny you mentioned that.
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  SPEAKER_04: Like when we recently, or when the high school boys won a lacrosse championship for the state, the first person I texted to thank was my middle school lacrosse coach.
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  SPEAKER_04: Because he got me involved in the sport and made me better.
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  SPEAKER_04: And I learned so much about his ability to coach me back, you know, that was 40 years ago.
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  SPEAKER_04: And just thanking him because what he did impacted me, made me the coach I was with the kids here, and then you know, just to say he had a very important role in I think what ended up being a state championship here in Panavedra.
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  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I think um, you know, you talk about um, you know, the impact somebody had on you, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Same for me, and you sit in a room with leaders and and everybody's impacting each other, and then you take that message out, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: I think it was really exciting this year.
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  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, you have a son on the the boys' team that won the state championship.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have a daughter on the girls' team that won the state championship, and it was so fun to watch, but not just them, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: All the other kids, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Seeing the boys, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, all the uh time I've spent with the boys program and uh everything else, and I think you with the girls program as well, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: It was fun to see those kids have that level of success and and see them thrive and um you know remember them when they were just running around, you know, trying to learn to throw and catch.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, because I think what we've done is we made it fun, right?
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  SPEAKER_04: We made it fun when they were eight years old, when they were, you know, 15 years old.
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  SPEAKER_04: And so they wanted to get better.
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  SPEAKER_04: And and so much of what you do is is we don't talk about the kids getting into colleges or scholarships or any of that.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_04: That's not that that's a result that may or may not happen, right?
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_04: And is probably a fleeting dream, and we could talk about that more.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_04: But just you know, being the best version of themselves is really the the thing that you bring out of the kids the most as an individual.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, I think our goal is to really unearth what these kids don't even realize they have inside of them, right?
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_02: And and and like you said, help them to become the best uh version of themselves on and off the field, right?
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_02: I think about um, you know, the other kids, right?
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_02: I I I like you, don't think about, hey, how many kids did we put in college or D1 or whatever, right?
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's not important, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: It's about um, you know, building these these boys into men and girls into women, and uh so they can go carve their own path and make an impact on those they choose to be around in the future.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, because so much now, you know, the the lacrosse world is changing quickly in division one.
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  SPEAKER_04: And and I think what used to be, we were talking the other day about lacrosse used to be pretty tight, right?
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  SPEAKER_04: You get an offer, a verbal, then you got it uh on signing day, and you went there in four years, you may, may, may or not have started.
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  SPEAKER_04: But you know, talk to what's changing there in in that landscape because the promises people think they're going for are not the same.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I see it both on the the lacrosse side, but especially on the football side, right?
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_02: Being a high school, high school football coach, and and I think where lacrosse is going, football has been.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_02: Um and it's messy, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, um kids are getting football offers.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um, that's great.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's an honor, but that basically means like, hey, we're interested in you.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_02: We're interested in maybe following how you do the next few years, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: It's not something you can often when they're a junior.
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  SPEAKER_02: When they're yeah, when they're a sophomore or a junior, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, so I would say, you know, right now on our team, we have um, you know, we probably have nine or ten kids with offers, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Outside of our seniors that have signed or will be signing in in two months.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, none of those are committable, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: These are great kids, and most of them will play at the college level if they decide to, but you know, an offer from school XYZ right now doesn't mean anything.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's really more of like, hey, we want to get to know you a little bit more, right?
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_04: So um because I've seen that where kids have 23 offers, and I'm thinking, how is that mathematically possible?
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_04: How can these universities be offering so many kids so many offers when at the end of the day only 15 signs?
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, in today's world, right, and I know you've talked about it with some of your other guests, right?
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I know Coach Galloway and Coach West and and Chris Bocklett as well.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_02: But right, I mean, uh, with the transfor transfer portal and um the new five-year rule where kids are now allowed to play five years, I think that's great for kids, but it it's changing the way everybody's doing business, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: In football with NIL specifically, and uh money going to top players, where, you know, I think in lacrosse, that's a little bit of the world, but uh I think you've probably got to be a top 10 player to really be uh impacted by that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um the landscape has changed so much.
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  SPEAKER_02: And right, I think it's important, you know, we really try to keep these kids grounded.
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  SPEAKER_02: We don't want their identity to be in whether they're getting offers or they're not getting offers, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: There's a kid that's a senior uh that I love a lot and have coached for a long time, and he had 20-ish offers, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And he's going division one and he he'll be signing in a few months.
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  SPEAKER_02: And he really only had two or three places that said, hey, we really do want you, uh, which is a huge honor and a huge deal, right?
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_02: But that doesn't seem like that adds up, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Two or three uh committable offers uh versus you know, whatever uh uh a verbal offer really means.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it means nothing, but you know, you just don't want these kids' identity to be wrapped up in it.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_04: Um, you know what's funny?
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  SPEAKER_04: That drives me nuts where so many kids nowadays you'll see their name and then a university name after.
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  SPEAKER_04: And this is still a high school kid.
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  SPEAKER_04: And statistically, half of those don't even pan out, they don't end up starting at that school.
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  SPEAKER_04: And then even worse is a lot of them don't even graduate from that school.
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  SPEAKER_04: So it there's a lot of broken promises or a lot of heartbreak that's ahead.
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  SPEAKER_04: And if your name is always connected to some university name after you, that's really, I think, only gonna set up people for disappointment.
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  SPEAKER_04: Right.
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  SPEAKER_04: The real goal of sports is to work hard, learn, you know, learn discipline and translate that to the rest of your life.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, we have a mutual friend, John Gordon, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And he says it really well.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh comparison is a thief of joy, right?
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_02: And I think everybody's heard that along those lines.
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  SPEAKER_02: But in reality, right, it really does, right?
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody's got to run their own race, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: I think I think we agree God has a plan for each person, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And and everybody's isn't the same path.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_02: And I think um, I think it's an important message for parents too, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: I think parents get caught up in that race, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And I think it's, you know, no matter how great your kid is, how good your kid is, how average your kid is, um, or you know, if if your kid just wasn't born with that athletic gene, right?
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_02: I think everybody has to carve their own unique path.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that um, you know, one of the things, even for these phenomenal first-class athletes, right, it's all gonna end at some point.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_02: Whether you go play college lacrosse or college football, you know, in lacrosse, most likely you're done in four or five years, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: If not sooner, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Um in football, maybe you'll make the be one of the 1% that makes the NFL or or gets a tryout.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_02: But in the end, it's all gonna end at some point, right?
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_02: And um, you know, Eddie George, I'm a big fan of his.
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  SPEAKER_02: He's a he's a coach, um, so I relate to him not physically, he's a big strong guy, but I was a fan of his growing up, growing up at Houston, he was drafted by the Oilers, um, and saw him speak recently, and he said, uh all athletes die two deaths, right?
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_02: So meaning, you know, you have your physical death at the end of your life, but then you also have you know the end of your career, right?
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_02: And I think it's interesting.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_02: It sounds a little dramatic, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: But whether whether you're done uh after youth sports, after high school sports or college sports, or hey, you get a chance to try out for the pros, like it's all gonna, it's all gonna come to an end.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_02: So what it what are you going to be, right?
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_02: What where is your identity?
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_02: And I think so many of our kids um, you know, get caught up in um, you know, with their identity being solely in sports, right?
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, that's where that first death comes into play.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, we take sports very seriously here, and I'm guilty of that, right?
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_02: But I think if we focus solely on the result, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: I think you've done a great job of riptide um our youth program here in Pontavidra, and and and although we win just about every game, right?
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_02: It was never about winning for you, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: It was doing it the right way, um, building the kids, training the kids, getting them ready for high school.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_02: And we've tried to mirror the same thing in youth football, right?
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_02: We've had we've had a ton of success, but more importantly, we've gotten these kids ready to play at the next level where we hand them off to the high school coaches.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, although it's important, and these kids work hard.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, they wake up at 6 a.m.
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  SPEAKER_02: in the morning, you know, nine, 12 months a year, they're going to train in other states in the summer at tournaments.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_02: And I know what we ask of the football team is very demanding, right?
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_02: But but you are not who you are on the field, right?
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I think winning a state championship was was awesome for our kids.
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  SPEAKER_02: And what a unique experience, right?
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_02: But I think I think if that's all you are and all you're focused on, what's next?
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right?
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  SPEAKER_02: You can't do anything else, right?
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_02: I think I'm so thrilled that our kids had the opportunity and our community had the opportunity for that.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_02: Um but you know, nobody's gonna care in a year that they win the state championship when they get to college, right?
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_04: What's unique about our team was so many kids on our team were focused on their academic next step.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_04: There a lot of them are not gonna play D1, nor did they want to, which is different.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_04: And that's what I think made them a better team, is they were focused on the team, not their individual accolades or maybe getting to the next level.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_04: They were focused on the here and the now.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_04: And you know, it's interesting.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um, I give a speech every uh year at the beginning of the season with the youth to try and set the bar literally for like parents of eight-year-olds and ten-year-olds.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_04: And an NFL, a retired NFL player who played uh 10 plus years in the NFL, right, the highest level.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_04: Uh he's now a coach, an assistant coach for the Jaguars.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_04: He came up to me recently and he's like, I love what you said to us for my kid and others was parents just focus and enjoy watching your kids play.
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  SPEAKER_04: And tell your kids after a game, don't give them critiques on what they did right, what they did wrong.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_04: Just tell your kid, I love watching you play.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_04: And it it's amazing what it does to the body language of a young player.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_04: It just makes them relax and like, thanks, you know.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_04: And if the kid wants to talk about the game, then let them talk about it.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_04: But I mean, I think when I was growing up, I I would cringe.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_04: My dad would critique the heck out of what I did on the football field or lacrosse, and it was not fun.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, I did it, I played because I loved it, but he sure didn't make it all that attractive.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I think I think that we're we're guilty of that, right?
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_02: At certain times, right?
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_02: I've definitely not been a perfect parent or perfect coach.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, I think that um, you know, we want we want this to be fun, right?
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I think there's this, you know, people see Michael Jordan, they they they talk about Kobe Bryant and his mama mentality, and they like these, they they talk about there's this notion that you have to be an absolute stone cold killer to be great at something, right?
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_02: And I I, you know, although that's true, I mean, those it worked for those guys, right?
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_02: But then you look at at top performers, guys like Steph Curry, right?
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you saw it in the World Cup this summer with some of these teams, right?
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_02: There was a lot of joy, there's a lot of fun being had on the field.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that's a really important piece that it should be enjoyable for kids.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_02: It is hard work, but they should have fun doing it.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_02: And I think, you know, if you get so wrapped up in the result, you get so wrapped up in uh where you want your kid to go or what you want your kid to be, like we talked about the identity, right?
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_02: I think there has to be joy, yeah, right.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_02: And you talked about the boys team and the culture.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_02: I saw that, right?
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_02: I've been following Pana Vidra Lacrosse for years, right?
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_02: And and I mean no disrespect, but I, you know, if I'm if I'm you know stack stacking all these teams up, this was probably not the overall most talented team in the history of Pana Vidra Boys Lacrosse, right?
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_02: But the culture that the players, the seniors, Coach Balanski and his staff put together, right?
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_02: Like you said, it was a very unselfish group uh and and they played for each other, right?
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_02: It wasn't about um, you know, winning player of the year or getting this scholarship, right?
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_02: It was about winning.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_02: And I saw that with the girls too, and uh I thought they played for each other and played together.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_02: And um, you know, there's so many good players on all these teams that everybody can't be an all-American, right?
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_04: Because you look at now in the college world, the the big changes are are gonna change supply and demand, and it's gonna be, I think, twice as hard to succeed in Division I because now that you can stay for five years mathematically, that means 20 percent of the players can remain.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_04: They're older.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_04: So if I'm a coach, why do I want an 18-year-old when I can get a 23-year-old on my team?
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_04: Transferring is now the norm.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_04: So even if you're on a team, it used to be, right?
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_04: You put in your time, I'm a freshman, I'm a sophomore.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_04: Looks like next year I might get more playing time.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_04: Well, now out of left field, there's eight guys or gals transferring in, you know, and it people have to realize it has got it has changed quickly, it's changed dramatically, and it's gotten twice as hard, I think.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_04: Trevor Burrus, Jr.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I think, you know, if you talk to college coaches, which I know you do, right, and and I do the same in the football world, it's challenging, right?
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, look, there there's kids that are, at least in football, right?
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_02: Um kids leave every year to go somewhere else to maximize their compensation.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_02: Now because now there's money involved.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_02: Right, there's money involved, especially on the football side.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_02: But um, I mean, you know, we're we're culture guys, right?
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_02: We we're we're team guys, right?
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_02: It it's it's really hard to um establish a team culture and an identity when you have 10 guys leave and 10 guys come in.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and that used to be such a great culture in college, right?
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_04: That that locker room.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_04: And I I had a conversation with a kid at high school graduation.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_04: I was talking to him about where he's going next to play Division I, and he actually said to me, Yeah, I'm gonna get some playing time, get some film, and hopefully transfer somewhere else.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_04: And it that breaks my heart.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_04: Like his goal is to get out of the next step.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I coach a kid this year that told me that.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_02: And um, I was incredibly proud of this kid, and I wanted him to be proud of what he had done.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_02: But I felt like, you know, this doesn't mean I'm I'm right, but it's sad, it's a little bit sad when you when you see somebody that wants to go, really doesn't want to even be somewhere, but wants to go there to quote unquote serve their time, right?
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_02: So they can then get somewhere else, right?
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_02: Um unfortunately, that's the world we live in.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and you know, I think it comes back to um, you know, what do you want?
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_02: Do you want to be part of a great team?
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_02: Do you want to be part of a team, a system, a family, right?
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_02: All these things that I think are super important that I learned from playing sports, you learn from playing sports, or um, you know, are you gonna jump around?
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_02: And again, you know, I think kids go to college for different reasons.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_02: I think on the surface, everybody wants the best offer, right?
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_02: They want to go to Syracuse, right?
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_02: They want to go to Maryland, right?
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_02: In lacrosse, right?
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_02: But in the end, do you know, well, they get to play there, right?
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_02: And they have to weigh that, right?
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_04: And when we're not playing, it's miserable.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we see that in football.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_02: And these are kids that were superstars in high school, and every kid was the best player on their team in high school.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_02: And now you're competing with 58 guys to do that in lacrosse and 125 guys in football.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_02: So um that's why I think it's important, you know, that we help as coaches and and leaders in this community to help, you know, make sure the minds are right of these kids and that they're doing things for the right reasons, and that um, again, their identity isn't solely on their performance on the field.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_02: I I've seen a lot of kids who who felt that way, but I've seen them learn, right?
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_02: And the hard way, right?
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, maybe, you know, maybe there's more to this, right?
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_02: And that's with wins and losses, right?
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_02: It's easy to lose a game and say, hey, you know, there's more more more to life than losing this game.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_02: But when you win too, right?
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_02: Uh it's not the be-all end-all, right?
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_02: And it it doesn't make you a better person.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, it's funny.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I'm my actual paying job as a technology sales uh sales guy.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_02: I have a territory that I manage for a for a storage company, a data center storage company, and this week is our end of quarter.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_02: And um, you know, I have a number of deals I'm trying to close.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_04: We appreciate you being here, right?
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, thank you.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_02: Anything for you, Chris Gretko.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_02: But no, I think about this because, you know, a lot of high pressure.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, you know, let's close these deals at the end of the quarter.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, I'm a good seller and I know I'm a good seller.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_02: That sounds cocky, but you kind of have to feel that way.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_02: But like if I close all my deals at the end of this quarter, I'm not a great seller.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_02: And if I don't close all my deals at the end of this quarter, I'm not a bad seller.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_02: And I think we get so wrapped up in statistics and the winning and the losing, right?
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I'm doing the best I can, I'm doing what's best for my customers, and and in the end, um the result will be the result.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_04: I think and what we see with our these these kids that we've all coached is I think they're gonna be good young men and women, and they have a great work ethic.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_04: And um and the key is they weren't focused on making D1 or having these schools.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_04: They put the work in because they loved doing it.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_04: They loved the sport.
• 21:56
  unknown: Okay.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_04: And it it translates into life too, right?
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_04: Whenever I talk to the schools I say you know, people talk about, oh, do what you love.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_04: Well, really do what you're good at and then you'll love it, right?
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_04: A lot of people in our area made a lot of money in dirt and uh they didn't love dirt, but um they were good at it, they were good at selling it, marketing it, etc.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_04: And then they enjoyed it.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_04: So I think with sports we have to get back to the basics of what the kid wants to do well, teach them good habits, and then I I think the results will take care of themselves.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean we've got uh I know you have, you know, I guess just about I actually your last child graduated from high school.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_02: So all five of yours are out.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_02: Uh two of my three are out.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_02: I've got um a high school, rising high school senior.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_02: And I think um, you know, the huge opportunity, right, for for these kids, you know, in college, coming out of college to pursue their dreams, chase their passions, right?
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_02: I think sometimes at our age, right, maybe we don't have the flexibility to do that as much, right?
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_02: And I think um for these kids to to find their passion and do what they want to do and take what they've learned in sports, right?
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_02: Um, which is a competitive edge, which is work ethic, and things like that, right?
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I know we've got a Ponta Vidra grad over here helping us today that's um you know great and and she's doing a phenomenal job.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, I think, you know, I I think you're a dad, I'm a dad, you're a coach, I'm a coach, right?
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_02: I think when somebody comes up to you and tells you, hey, you know, I saw your your son, you know, over at Publix the other day.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_02: It was great talking to him.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_02: He's a great kid.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_02: That means so much more than somebody coming up to you and saying, hey, your kid had a great game.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, your kid's a great player.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I think I think in the end, we all just want to raise good people who can chase their dreams and impact people and leave their legacy.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_04: No, that's great.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_04: And you know, now an interesting pivot from uh what you've done in the athletic world to uh on the entrepreneurial side.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_04: So you mentioned your day job is in tech.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, but during COVID, you and your wife developed a completely different business.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_04: So tell me what what sparked your interest in creating an electric bike company?
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_04: How does that work?
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_04: I have no idea.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_04: I just bought two bikes from you back then, but I don't know how it gets from idea to manufacture to delivery.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_04: So walk us through the code.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_02: So great question.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that was a uh a really unique and fun experience.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_02: All the credit goes to my wife, Liz Owen.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_04: So we're gonna have Liz on for sure.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_02: So shout out Liz.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so I can speak to it.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_02: But um, Liz is a phenomenal teacher at Pontavidra High School.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_02: So she is she's invested in the youth, and she's coached uh before as well.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_02: But you know, during COVID, we were all sitting around a little bit bored, and um, you know, these e-bikes had come out, and uh she was really interested in getting one to ride on the beach, and there was just none to be had, right?
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_02: So um, like the doer she is, she said, Hey, let's start a let's start an e-bike company, right?
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_02: Which I was like, you know, I I I I didn't have the guts to do it, right?
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_02: She did.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_02: And um and it and it was a great it was a great thing for us.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_04: We learned so much, but yeah, I mean from How much do you have to design versus how much does a third party?
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so it's it's interesting, right?
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_02: Um she we've been to China a few times um on personal travel, that sounds strange, but her father taught over there, so we had a couple trips over there.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_02: So she's been over there a handful of times, and um we made some contacts with factories over there, and um, she really led the charge of of talking to a number of factories about design, bike design.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um obviously there's laws in in our state that we were um going to follow as far as speeds and and and size and wattage, and um you know, for for those out there that that see the kids riding the e-bikes at 40 miles an hour, that's not us.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um we do follow the laws.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_02: But um no, it was it was super uh it's it was super fun, and and it has been super fun.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, designing a logo, coming up with a name, and just kind of taking it and see where it went, right?
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_04: I mean we had um because you did everything from design, engineering, and the marketing.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_04: So it's not like you just picked a bike from a Chinese company and then marketed it.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_04: Correct.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_04: So you had a hand in what it looks like, what it feels like all that.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_02: So both me and my wife are Auburn grad, she's a lot smarter than me.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_02: She's an industrial engineering grad from Auburn.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um so she's super smart on the engineering side.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_04: Is it War Eagle or Go Titan?
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_04: It's War Eagle.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um it's not our mascot.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_02: We have a tiger as a mascot, but we do have an eagle.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_02: Aaron Ross Powell Because you copied that from Clemson?
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_02: Um No.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_02: We do we have time for the Clemson Auburn story?
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_02: No, we're not gonna be able to do that.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, oh we'll be able to do that.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_04: We'll read it that in the notes.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_04: But yeah, we're sorry to say that.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_02: No, I'm a big fan of Clemson.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_02: That's a great uh school, the other the other tigers.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_02: So um but no, I mean from the design aspect, um Liz really went and and worked with a factory, right?
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_02: Got the specs.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_02: We talked through different models.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean we're we're we're working with uh a guy in Hawaii on our logo called Tiki Bikes, right?
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_02: So it has kind of a Hawaiian flavor, is what we we kind of came up with.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_02: There really wasn't anything around, right?
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_02: You see e-bikes everywhere now, but they weren't on Amazon, they weren't at the bike shop.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um and we didn't know, we were just really kind of putting our toes in the water.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_02: So we got, you know, uh a shipment that we designed, and um, you know, we were we were kind of gorilla marketing on social media and really didn't know who our clientele was, other than we live at the beach, and we thought it would be a fun thing to have.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_02: And um so so it started like that.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_02: Um our kids were high school and middle school age at the time, and uh they found a really good use for them to ride them around and take them to the beach with their friends and everything else and would help them get there a little bit faster.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_04: But at the time, like you had to figure out the pricing, right?
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_04: And then what what are the costs of the goods you're selling versus what's the market?
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_02: I mean it was it was a it was a from scratch operation, right?
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, how much are we paying for this bike?
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_02: What should we sell it for?
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_04: Aaron Ross Powell And how many would you buy from the factories?
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_04: Like what was your first order and then how did it evolve?
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so our first order was probably like twenty-five units.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so pretty small, right, to the point where is that even worth a factory to peak?
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, it wasn't, we weren't making a ton of money on each of those bikes.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_02: It was really um, you know, a trial, right, where we're manually, you know, designing uh stickers and other things to put the decals on the bike because we're not meeting these minimums of these giant 10,000 unit orders to get everything done at the factory.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_02: So um so we did that, and um, you know, people seem to like them, right?
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_04: Um but then I remember you would get these boxes but put them physically together at the final assembly in your garage.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_02: Credits my wife, the engineer.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, our our first warehouse was our second garage.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, we had uh um a truck show up with a couple of pallets, and um we kept them in our garage, and um still to this day we're putting bikes together.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_02: So we have uh a fundraiser tomorrow that we gave a bike to, and I think my wife is putting a bike together right now.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_02: Oh wow.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_04: Now, in the middle of this, you had a fun um business shock of cost of shipping, right?
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_04: So talk about that.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_04: What a container, how the container world was.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_02: This was this was kind of the drag from COVID.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't want to say it was a post-COVID um deal.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_02: This was, I believe, the next year, so 2021.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um we had ordered about a hundred and hundred and fifty units, which was a bigger order for us.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_02: And um, you know, you couldn't find a container to ship anything from other overseas.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_02: You know, the news was talking about all of these uh the ports couldn't unload these things, right?
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_02: There were just ships sitting in the in the Pacific Ocean um coming over from China and and they couldn't unload them.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_02: They didn't have time.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_02: So um, you know, we were trying to manage uh, you know, Christmas orders.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_02: I was gonna say Christmas a few years where, right, I mean that week of Christmas, right, we were putting together, you know, 100 bikes, right, and and delivering them and all of that good stuff.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, we were worried about things getting here.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_02: You we ended up meeting those deadlines, but it was very stressful.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_02: It was very expensive.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, because you sold the bike at a price, but then your costs were dramatically different.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the shipping costs dramatically increased, and um, you know, you're negotiating with a factory on price, but then you're negotiating with a shipping company on the container, and you know, if you buy more, it's cheaper.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_02: If you buy a full container versus a half container, it's cheaper.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_02: But you know, we're still running a pretty local business here at this time, right?
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_02: We're not buying 10,000 units.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_04: So are there companies that help you with all the logistics?
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_04: Like, because you think of it, a bike is made in a factory.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_04: How does it get from the back door of the factory to your driveway?
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's really fascinating.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_02: So you you're you're working with the factory, uh, and communicating with them is not always easy, right?
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_03: Do you speak Chinese?
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_02: I do not speak Mandarin or Chinese, but um, you know, fortunately uh Google translates really well.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_02: And they speak English.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_02: And they they speak a little bit of English.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_02: Um but yeah, we're able to communicate with the factory in a manner um that that works for us.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I mean you've got couriers, you've got uh courier companies, shipping companies, container companies.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_02: Um so someone separate on the Chinese side.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, something someone separate on the Chinese side, and then you've got the shipper, and the shipper um will help you clear customs.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_02: Um so you can do a few different things, right?
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_02: We found it easier.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_02: Um there we and we did some different things.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_02: We actually had something shipped to a warehouse in Jacksonville, and we took my Toyota tundra over there and and filled it up about six times and drove back and forth.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_02: Um a lot of trial and error.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes we'd have them delivered straight to our house, which is a different company, right?
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_02: So, right, you have to have a company bring them into the United States, clear customs, transfer to a different company who brings it to a warehouse in Jacksonville.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_02: You can either pick it up at your warehouse in Jacksonville or have it then delivered to um, you know, we we still are not having them delivered to our our garage, uh, right?
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_02: We have uh warehouse locations and Tiki Bike X HQ, as the kids call it, um where we store the bikes.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_04: And um and we have any advisors or help in figuring out international purchasing.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_02: So Google was very helpful.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_02: Uh and and Liz the engineer was really the superstar.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_02: But we did talk to a few people.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_02: Um her dad has some experience, my father-in-law in logistics.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so um, you know, we we really just kind of just put our heads together and talked to people that that we thought could help us, and um, you know, just just tried to figure it out.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_02: And it it's been you know, it's been a really fun six years, right?
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_02: And we're still, you know, we're still doing our thing.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_02: It's a lot different landscape out there now.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um, there's a lot of uh rogue Chinese companies that are really just um you know selling bikes that go 40 miles an hour, they're super dangerous.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, the parts are a little sketchy.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_02: So um, you know, there's definitely some hesitations, maybe I don't want to say hesitations, but but challenges with being in this business, right?
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_04: Um and it is amazing you think we're talking about six years, you went from being cutting edge early entrant to the market to now it's becoming saturated and and overrun with lower quality higher risk.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there's a ton of lower quality um bikes being sold online, and um, you know, people will call us, hey, can you fix this?
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, no, we can't.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_02: I think um, you know, it's an interesting product too, right?
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, when you're starting a company, right, you're always thinking, well, what's my product, right?
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_02: What's my pitch?
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_02: Who's it for, right?
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_02: All of those things.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we ended up picking a product that weighed 60 pounds, right?
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_02: That was, you know, four and a half feet long, um, right, which is its own unique challenge, right?
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um a product that's regulated, but you know, the state laws are are good, but they aren't really enforced, right?
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you don't really see kids getting pulled over on e-bikes, right?
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_02: Well, there are minimum ages, minimum ages.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_02: There's um, you know, you got to be wearing a helmet, um, and you know, speed.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_02: Speed.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um, there's certain speed.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_02: You know, bikes aren't supposed to go above 25 miles an hour, right?
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_02: There's different classes of bikes, and there's a lot of bikes as everybody sees out there going too fast, right?
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_02: So we made a stand early on saying, you know, we weren't gonna give anyone the opportunity to, you know, break the laws with those speeds.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_02: So we didn't sell and haven't sold anything that does exceed that speed limit.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_02: Um because we, you know, and and and uh you know, we want people to be safe, um, but uh, you know, we can't ride their bikes for them.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um so so you know, um, but I love what you did.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_04: It's so it's so creative, and it takes, as we just highlighted, there's so many steps to getting it in someone's.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and and the and the brand got really strong, right?
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_02: It became a thing, at least around our community, right?
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_02: Where everybody wanted the gear, they wanted the t-shirts, they wanted the hats, right?
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_02: We sold all this merchandise for Christmas, right?
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_02: Kids were opening up tiki bike sweatshirts on on Christmas and sending us pictures, right?
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_02: Um, which was really fun, and we'd always put that up on social media, and um, you know, the brand really became strong.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_02: We learned a lot about that, and and we're still, you know, we we don't know what the future holds for tiki bikes, but um, you know, it might be in the brand more than it is the bike, right?
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_02: And um something we take there.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_02: But uh, you know, we still do that as as maybe a little bit of a side hustle, but um, you know, obviously work full-time jobs, but um it's really been a fun, unique experience.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_02: It's been great for our kids too, right?
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_02: They were part of it, they were part of the design, they were part of the branding.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, uh, you know, it's it's coaching football and and seeing kids with tiki bike stickers on their back plates, right?
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_02: Hanging out of their uh under underneath their jerseys was kind of a fun experience.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_04: So I love it.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_04: I mean you you created something.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_04: That's what America is so great.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_04: We have these opportunities.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_04: You can create something from scratch and run with it.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_04: And like you said, you learned along the way, you had challenges along the way, you got beyond the break uh with the shipping situation, and then now you have new challenges in the market.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_04: But uh congrats to you guys for doing the thing.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_04: I love it.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_04: I love just the whole spirit of it.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's great, and I think it's a great lesson for kids, right?
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_02: And as they graduate in college and they're trying to figure out what they want to do, right?
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_02: Like, and it's America, like you said, right?
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_02: The story of America, you can just do stuff, yeah, right?
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_02: And and what better time?
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_02: You know, we were not in our 20s when we started that, so maybe we couldn't jump in all the way, right?
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_02: But um, you know, if you want to do something in your 20s, you can just do it.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and um, you know, you hear these entrepreneurs all the time that you have on, right?
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, some people fail 10, 20 times before something really catches.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's what you learn from each failure is key as well.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_02: And um, and that's you know, a great life lesson.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_04: Well, Scott Owen, thank you so much for coming uh in the studio today.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_04: We covered a lot of ground and your volunteer work with the youth and sports and focusing on you know growing these people into great, strong young men and women, and also your entrepreneurial spirit with Tiki Bike with Liz Owen as well.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_04: So I look forward to having her in soon.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_04: So thanks so much for coming in, Scott.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_04: Thanks for having me, Chris.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_04: I appreciate it.
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