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Patriots Unfiltered 3/26: NFL Draft Talk/Trade Scenarios , Roster Review, Offseason Talk · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. Did they do something with the camera.
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  Speaker 3: I think there are kids that just aren't playing as
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  Speaker 1: I think it's video games. Kids are getting lazy.
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  Speaker 3: nil Like, this wasn't the thing when I was in
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  Speaker 3: school from Twitter, I thought you were.
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  Speaker 2: Would his hypothetical team be able to spend that much
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  Speaker 2: each year and still stay in to the sour cap
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  Speaker 2: by paying bonuses and spreading it out decades on the cap?
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  Speaker 2: Please don't let Mike give a both sides equivocal answer
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow, I mean i'd need to know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was in little it's all the time. Never
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  Speaker 4: backyard and you brush the leaf and.
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  Speaker 2: It is Thursday here at Jillette Stadium in the places
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  Speaker 2: a buzz because tonight or actually four o'clock this afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: Big friendly, friendly. It's uh, France and Brazil in Brazil
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  Speaker 2: so friendly?
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  Speaker 4: Like is it like fighting allion we're competing right, yeah?
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  Speaker 1: They but it somebody's gonna get thrown out. This was
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be friendly, friendly.
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  Speaker 4: Supposed to be being friendly right now.
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  Speaker 2: You know, with Brazil being one of the Patriots home markets,
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  Speaker 2: I assume think that we're going to root for Brazil tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah what no?
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  Speaker 5: I kind of like the guys on France better.
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  Speaker 1: Well, okay, we're getting too deep with that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but can any of you name it was single
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  Speaker 5: player on either team?
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  Speaker 1: I could tell you. I can't. One name is Hale?
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  Speaker 1: Here you go, nailed it.
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  Speaker 6: I think he's name.
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  Speaker 1: Does he still play? Yeah? So that's a name that
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  Speaker 1: he got one name might be for Brazil. This is.
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  Speaker 7: Ronaldo retired from Brazil a long time ago, you know,
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  Speaker 7: single name, not to be confused with the Portuguese Ronaldo.
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  Speaker 5: Two different people.
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  Speaker 2: So who is the big player on Brazil?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard of that name.
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  Speaker 7: There's also a Brazilian player in the news right now
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  Speaker 7: because he told off Chapel Rowan.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys know that drama.
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  Speaker 3: The Jude Law's daughter. Yes, I do know. Are you
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  Speaker 3: proud of me? I I'm aware.
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  Speaker 1: I'm aware of this story.
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  Speaker 5: If I said the name in Bape, that means nothing
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  Speaker 5: to you.
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  Speaker 1: I know I know that name. Okay, good, matter of
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  Speaker 1: I believe he was in the news because they did
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  Speaker 1: the wrong knee for him. It's get an MRI on
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  Speaker 1: the wrong.
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  Speaker 5: The Hanson song from the nineties, exactly. That's exactly exactly
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  Speaker 5: the same thing. It's not Maybe the best soccer player
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  Speaker 5: in the world.
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  Speaker 1: Happened to him.
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  Speaker 3: I think he had a knee and j and they
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  Speaker 3: there's an MRI I for him on the wrong knee.
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  Speaker 1: It's fine. Probably like.
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  Speaker 5: Two of the top five soccer teams in the world
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  Speaker 5: playing here today, so that's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 6: It is a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: It's cool. It's a big deal. So, like I said, this.
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  Speaker 2: Stadium is Massachusetts four o'clock tip off for that.
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  Speaker 1: Ye, so very excite. It's going to be on TV
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  Speaker 1: probably hope. So I think we don't know check. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, in terms of the Patriots, what do we got?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I know that it's not it's some inside baseball.
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  Speaker 2: But the coaches have moved over to the new facility,
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  Speaker 2: so they're no longer here. They're now taking up residents
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  Speaker 2: in their new digs.
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  Speaker 1: So there'll be ESPN two and I'm excited.
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  Speaker 6: University.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, so they're they're over in the new digs,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, players are somewhere around, but they don't
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  Speaker 2: have to be here until April twentieth.
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  Speaker 4: I haven't been in there yet, but I was walking
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  Speaker 4: by on my walk in this morning from Spooky World
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  Speaker 4: and I noticed they have big screens in the entry
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  Speaker 4: area and they were like.
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  Speaker 1: I could see big Patriots highlights playing. It seems like
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  Speaker 1: you'll be greeted.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna be a very multimedia It's it's it's a
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  Speaker 2: nice place, it really is.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good, good thing for the for the
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  Speaker 3: team in the organization, long overdue.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna tour of it in a couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 4: I think we'll go over and check it out. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I forget who was.
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  Speaker 2: One of the players was there, and uh, he's like,
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  Speaker 2: I can can't believe this place. And somebody from PR said,
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  Speaker 2: you know you came from Minnesota. Isn't that great, because well,
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  Speaker 2: the chandeliers are better in Minnesota, but the other stuff here,
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  Speaker 2: And he was talking about the lockers themselves, like this
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  Speaker 2: is really cool and I don't want to spoil it,
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  Speaker 2: but there's some really cool features of the lockers that
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  Speaker 2: the players will be able to take advantage of it.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get all that.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have a virtual tour of the place nice down
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  Speaker 2: the road so fans can see what's going on there.
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  Speaker 4: Do you expect that the training camp will change it
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  Speaker 4: all with that facility in the lower field or you know,
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  Speaker 4: do you think that they'll still come up to the
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  Speaker 4: top two fields where they've usually done.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they have to, they just have the ninety guys.
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  Speaker 1: They can't be on one field.
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  Speaker 5: I would think maybe in season practice might be run
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  Speaker 5: the lower field, but they switch it up because of
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  Speaker 5: the grass and keeping the fields fresh and like the
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  Speaker 5: you know, field crew might need to work on it
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  Speaker 5: that week or whatever. So they that's why they constantly
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  Speaker 5: are switching lower upper upper.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaking of grass, the grass looks great out here. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so it's so interesting. First since two thousand and six
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  Speaker 1: that they've had grass on this field, is that right, Well,
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  Speaker 1: they've had it for soccer. They for that.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, now it looks nice, smells nice, they cut it. Well,
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  Speaker 4: we're noticing, you know, they do this designs and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a simple man.
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  Speaker 6: Ryan's crew does a good job and it looks nice
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  Speaker 6: on TV.
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  Speaker 2: And they do it while wearing brunt the work Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the official workware of the to Let Stadium field crew.
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  Speaker 2: So you can get ten dollars off nice plug.
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  Speaker 3: So you have seen the facility, Freddy, right, Yes, what
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  Speaker 3: stood out to you is like like one of the
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  Speaker 3: best features that you that you can remember.
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  Speaker 1: I was, I was amazed.
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  Speaker 2: The locker room is expansive, like when you go in
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  Speaker 2: there compared to the locker room we've been.
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  Speaker 3: So they won't any more need to have like the
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  Speaker 3: temporary blue lockers in the middle during training.
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  Speaker 5: Like I'm very interested to see how like open locker
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  Speaker 5: room is gonna go with so much space because like,
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  Speaker 5: you know, that's you could be on the other side
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  Speaker 5: and the scrum starts on this side, and then it's
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  Speaker 5: gonna be you know, all sorts of Yeah, it's gonna
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  Speaker 5: but I like it.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's good.
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  Speaker 5: I think that it gets especially when you have, you know,
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  Speaker 5: bigger media contingents, like towards last season when they're winning
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  Speaker 5: and they're in playoff games and stuff, a lot of
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  Speaker 5: people in.
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  Speaker 1: There, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the locker rooms and the actual lockers themselves
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  Speaker 2: are really cool. Uh, and then the dining is like
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  Speaker 2: a food court.
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  Speaker 1: It's huge. It's gonna be tough for Mike.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, especially because, yeah, because you're gonna lose Evan, So
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  Speaker 3: I on Evan is gonna be much more difficult for you. Right,
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  Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough for Evan because when Fred ask
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  Speaker 3: them what the mood is, well, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: The people I saw seemed to be in a good move,
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  Speaker 1: but a lot of people I have no idea what
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  Speaker 1: they were doing. I couldn't see them. Hey, go over there.
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  Speaker 4: I think that'll be good though, because they'll be I
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  Speaker 4: think everybody congregates to like one scrum now and maybe
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  Speaker 4: they'll be you know, kind.
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  Speaker 1: Of more separate multi scrum.
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  Speaker 4: During playoffs, it did courting off a little bit, and
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  Speaker 4: there were different groups going at at once.
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  Speaker 5: That's because people that know nothing about the team would
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  Speaker 5: come in and like they'd be interviewing somebody that didn't
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  Speaker 5: help them.
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  Speaker 6: Like frat guy that stands at the door for a
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  Speaker 6: house party. Who do you know here?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: Who invited?
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  Speaker 5: Well I'm not to brag, but there were times last
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  Speaker 5: year where like the players would be like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I won't talk to that guy, but I'll talk to you,
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  Speaker 5: and like, you know, because they know us, like they don't.
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  Speaker 5: He's the national people or the people that jumped on
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  Speaker 5: the bandwagon late. There were some players that were kind
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  Speaker 5: of spicy about it.
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  Speaker 1: They were like, no, I don't think it cause the
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  Speaker 1: media they jumped on the bear wagon, or they're just
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  Speaker 1: covering the team.
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  Speaker 3: I would find anyone who criticizes the media more than
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  Speaker 3: I do, but Evan does.
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  Speaker 5: If you were weren't there at four and thirteen, don't
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  Speaker 5: show up at fourteen and three.
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  Speaker 1: That's all I got sending people. They sent me here.
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  Speaker 1: That's my job. They didn't choose to come here. They
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  Speaker 1: told me I had to be here. Go someplace, elf,
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  Speaker 1: tell your editor North. The North remembers.
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  Speaker 6: I love Petty Evan.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so there are another kind.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So no, no new news and free agency. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to bring up the receiver from the Eagles.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to bring that up because there's nothing
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  Speaker 2: new on that front. I know they're getting ready for
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  Speaker 2: the draft. That's that's huge right now.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 5: We've had some spotted, you know, in the wild Elliot
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  Speaker 5: Wolf at different pro days. I think he was at
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  Speaker 5: Miami is alma Mater a couple of days ago. Then
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  Speaker 5: he was at Auburn I believe two days ago. So
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  Speaker 5: every every day now there's like, you know a picture
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  Speaker 5: of poor Elliott walking through a college campus and it's
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  Speaker 5: like spotted in a Patriots GM. So yeah, they're all
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  Speaker 5: on the pro day tour right now, and then obviously
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  Speaker 5: owners meetings will be this weekend, but right now they're
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  Speaker 5: on the pro days.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, what else? I got my pillow,
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  Speaker 2: all right? I got it early. I got it a
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  Speaker 2: day early, so I've had two nights on it. I
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  Speaker 2: got it out of the box and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: this isn't what I thought it was. I was ready
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  Speaker 2: to return it because it didn't seem like as sturdy
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  Speaker 2: as I thought it would be. But this is a
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  Speaker 2: unique pillow. It's pretty cool. So I have to say
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  Speaker 2: after two nights, all right, I'm impressed. I'm impressed, but
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  Speaker 2: we'll see. I'm going to give it a month before arrested.
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  Speaker 6: So far I did.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of did a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're a side sleeper friend exclusive side.
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  Speaker 1: Do you go side to side or your side? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I thrash thrash. That's why I hate the memory phone
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  Speaker 1: because it's hard to thrash. Yeah, it's so much effort
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  Speaker 1: to get over in memory phone. It like sucks you
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  Speaker 1: and it's like quick stands. Yeah, so you got to
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  Speaker 1: get a sturdier memory phone. Then that's a that's a
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  Speaker 1: big expense, Paul, and my wife loves that we have.
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  Speaker 3: I did spend more money on a mattress than I'm
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  Speaker 3: comfortable with.
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  Speaker 2: More to come on that, but some early scheduled talk
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  Speaker 2: with the league Wednesday night. The league the season will
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  Speaker 2: open in Australia. Yeah that's wild, but I guess if
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  Speaker 2: you're going to play in Australia, that's the only time
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  Speaker 2: you can do it.
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  Speaker 1: You have all that time in front.
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  Speaker 2: You play on Wednesday, and you have, yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: over ten days until your next game, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So just to you have two different things going on.
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  Speaker 3: The opener is actually the Wednesday in Seattle, is it not?
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  Speaker 3: Isn't the second game the one in Australia?
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  Speaker 1: I believe you'rerent?
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  Speaker 7: Maybe maybe now is it Wednesday night here or Wednesday
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  Speaker 7: in Australia.
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  Speaker 1: No, the Wednesday Settle Seattle.
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  Speaker 3: Opponent to TBD could be the Patriots, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: could be the Patriots because the Patriots are Thurday night
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  Speaker 3: Australia Thursday night locally eight thirty five in Australia, it's
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  Speaker 3: like ten thirty in the morning, I think on Friday.
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  Speaker 3: So it's a little confusing, but that's actually the second game.
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  Speaker 3: The kickoff is still Seattle for defending champs, and the
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  Speaker 3: Patriots are in play for that because they do travel.
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  Speaker 5: They did used to do that for a period of
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  Speaker 5: time or they have a rematch, but they kind of
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  Speaker 5: stopped doing that.
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  Speaker 3: Well they I think they realized they don't need to
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  Speaker 3: have a marquee matchup to it's you're a you know,
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  Speaker 3: huge rating. They're going to get a big number no
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  Speaker 3: matter who Seattle.
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  Speaker 5: So what's the Brazil game Friday night?
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  Speaker 3: I do not believe there's a Friday night game. I
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  Speaker 3: think it's it's Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: There was last year. I read something. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if this was true, that only if we could look
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  Speaker 1: it up, because it's starting a little bit later.
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  Speaker 3: It goes into the window of you know, it's sort
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  Speaker 3: of the monopoly, you know, the anti trust.
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  Speaker 1: The high school football with the high school and whatnot.
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  Speaker 5: There's a law that to preserve high school athletics, you
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  Speaker 5: cannot play on Friday nights and from a certain time
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  Speaker 5: to a certain time of the fall. I believe Saturday too,
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  Speaker 5: right for college football, it's like they tried.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, now they've definitely pushed the envelope on on that stuff,
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  Speaker 3: but I think those rules are still in play.
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  Speaker 5: It is the high school one, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I didn't know that they honored.
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  Speaker 5: It's from my certain it's a window right from like
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  Speaker 5: September to maybe like Thanksgiving that you can't play Friday
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  Speaker 5: night professional football.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so you know a little early schedule stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Australia game is set. It's the you know,
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  Speaker 3: the Rams and the Niners. So that takes two potential
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  Speaker 3: opponents away from Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: You know just that that's too yeah, right, because they
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  Speaker 2: you know, I think there's a chance.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want So what's been happening over
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  Speaker 2: the last few years is these early games throughout the
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  Speaker 2: league have been divisional games. But when you have the
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl champs, they like to bring in either their
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  Speaker 2: AFC opponent, I mean, their conference opponent or in rematch of.
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  Speaker 1: The Super in Week one.
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  Speaker 3: You know you are in play in Week one, you
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  Speaker 3: don't have to worry about the whole vision thing because
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  Speaker 3: you have the whole time. You know, you'll have till
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  Speaker 3: May to prepare for the opener. I think it's a
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  Speaker 3: good time. Like I think that's a difficult game. I
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  Speaker 3: think for the home team, the defending champ to play,
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  Speaker 3: I think there's always a lot of emotion.
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  Speaker 1: You know, generally they win. I'm not saying that they
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  Speaker 1: you know, well, you know, the record is terrible in that,
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  Speaker 1: but I do think that can.
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  Speaker 3: Be a tricky game for the defending Would you like
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  Speaker 3: the Patriots to play in that game?
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  Speaker 1: They wouldn't they both really, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I'd
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  Speaker 1: like to.
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  Speaker 4: I'd like to have a little time to develop Drake
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  Speaker 4: and go into Seattle and feel like we have a
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  Speaker 4: new addition, not like we're picking right up off the
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  Speaker 4: Super Bowl ass kicking and we got to go right
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  Speaker 4: back into there, and you know, there's not much chance
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  Speaker 4: to let things gel.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, I see it. They're the super Bowl champs.
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  Speaker 1: They're a great team. It's a really hard maybe they
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  Speaker 1: have led.
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  Speaker 4: They're a new team too now, but you know, Walker,
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  Speaker 4: they still got the y.
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  Speaker 1: I'm good with it. Let's get right. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: a good time to play them.
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  Speaker 4: You get the long so you could go out there,
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  Speaker 4: you could play them, and then you're gonna have to
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  Speaker 4: go back out to l a later in the season.
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  Speaker 4: So I mean, I ideally they'd like but at least
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  Speaker 4: that you get it out of the way this week
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  Speaker 4: and then so I see the advantage of that.
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  Speaker 1: But I'd like to.
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  Speaker 4: I'd like to see that more in the middle of
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  Speaker 4: the season and see, you know what the Patriots have got,
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  Speaker 4: how the.
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  Speaker 1: Teams get I get that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Now they handle some of the West Coast trips
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: because Bill would have a stay out there for a
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: week and play him back to back if he could.
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: I don't know how Mike Rabele's going to handle that.
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: You know, typically we'd also go out like on Friday,
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: we go a day early for the longer trips and
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: like all that kind of stuff. We didn't do that
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: for Denver, and I was a little surprised that we
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: didn't do that, and now they won anyways, So yeah,
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: but I'm interested to see how that is all handled
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: because in the past we would you make a trip
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: out of it, and you'd.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Well you have to you have to ask for that,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: and then the schedule maker can either do it or
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: not do it.
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: Right. Yeah, yep, maybe we'll find out. It seems like
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: an owner's meetings question or topic.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Sounding like yoa there was no try you.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Know, schedule maker do or they don't do it?
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Well no, I mean because sometimes they just can't. They can't,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: you know, uh it's a concert.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, right, give me the Dolphins, like you know,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: week one, give me start off. Well, they had the
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Raiders last year and over there for you you need
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: a nice cupcakes over them. Yeah, it would be nice.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: What do you think it's more likely of these two
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: homecoming they start fast and fade, or they start slow
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: and get.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Better B B. Yeah, that's more likely.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, huh yeah, I mean I think it does time
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: to opponents. Yeah, I have to say without seeing the start, Miami.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: And I think they're going to be ready to go
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: at the beginning. I think they have a lot of motivation.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: I think you lose the Super Bowl. I think that
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl loser thing is real. Oh yeah, I
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: think that kind of where where is on you a
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: little bit as the season goes.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Now it's it's tough.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, there was another little stat that came out
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: yesterday that I saw from Warren Sharp that was ranked
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: the teams how long each NFL team spent playing from
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: ahead last season. And it's another one where the Patriots
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: were the team that played from ahead the most of
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: anybody in the league. And you know, talking with the guys,
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: it's like, you don't want to bring up negative views
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: of last season, but look like they thread the needle
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: last year. They had an easy schedule, they had no injuries,
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: they played from a front more than anybody else. You know,
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: So I think this season is going to be about adversity,
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: and it's gonna be about it's gonna be more challenging.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: There's gonna be more things I think they have to
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: deal with this year. It's not gonna all just break
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: their way.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: See, I'm gonna assume they're gonna do the mic just
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: so open at the schedule.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: We're gonna go Dolphins, Jets, Titans, like you know, and
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: then the Dolphins again. Here we go baby, right right.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: And it's fun t see.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Funny that they played ahead in the league more than
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: any other team given that first drive problems that they
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: were having with the other team.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, it made sense to me.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's just an I think it's part of
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: the reason why the Super Bowl was so frustrating, because
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: they were like.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Down the whole time, but it was three.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: But really it was only the Baltimore game that they
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: came from behind from right. That was why that game
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: stood out so much, because they hadn't really done.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: It come from behind when fourth quarter drive.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Behind a little bit right to tie it up, didn't they.
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: The game in Buffalo?
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: In Buffalo, they were losing at one point in the
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: second half, but then they immediately went right back.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: So really, well, it was Bills, Bills tied it late.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: Bill's game was a game winning drive, yes, field goal,
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: but game winning drive. But in Baltimore, he first fourth
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: quarter comeback, first three hundred yard passing game, like it
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: would checked like all of the boxes that people were like, oh,
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: he hasn't done these things yet and needed them all
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: in Baltimore.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So looking back on the season, was that was
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: that the inflection point? Was that the say okay, that
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: was the game where okay, we've got a good team Baltimore. Yeah, no, no, no,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: the Buffalo.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: The first Buffalo wins for me absolutely by far.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: I think a lot of you know, talking to the
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: coaches like during the super Bowl week and stuff like that,
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: a lot of them felt like the Baltimore game was
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: when they knew they could go on a run. Like
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: maybe the Buffalo game is like kind of a proof
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: of concept kind of game for them, or they they
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: got some confidence, but they felt like, you know, primetime
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: game in Baltimore, you're down in the fourth quarter, you
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: come back and win the game. That that was sort
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: of when they were like, okay, this is this team
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: is different. You know, there's a real contendent.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: So maybe Buffalo was more for Drake. Baltimore was more
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: for the team.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: I felt like Buffalo was, okay, like we're a good team.
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: I think Baltimore was like, we might be a great team.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, I guess.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just go back to with playing from ahead.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: How many times over the last few years before that
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: did we talk about they need to be in front,
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: like they need like there was such a requirement for
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: the less talented Patriots team and it was, you know,
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: this team I thought was a little more talented, but
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: it was, you know, still still a requirement. But I
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: don't know, I just I think the way this is
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: shaping them in my mind, and maybe they'll you know,
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: at AJ Brown or at another player that that you know,
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: continues to move the needle in the right direction. But
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: I think this is going to be a challenging season.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: It's going to be, you know, one that wouldn't.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Have it any other way. No, let's test the let's
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: test our metal. Let's let's do it. But you need
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: to get up for all these games. I mean, the opponents,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: it's it's.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: They're going to have to do it without Josh Dobbs,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: and everyone says that this clears the way for Tommy Cutlets. However,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: there's another quarterback out there that could be a backup
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: and Tom Brader.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Patrick Brady, Oh yeah, I didn't know where you were
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: going with that. I knew I picked it up. But
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: how would that even happen?
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Like maybe he was just you know, uh, you know,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: baiting us. But if you were to come out of retirement,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: could he play for any other team but the Raiders?
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: So I guess he inquired. That's what he claims, is
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: that he inquired of whether or not he'd have to
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: give up his stake in the Raiders to play, And
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: I guess the league said.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so he would He couldn't.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Right, I could be mistaken if he got a hand
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: to the league. They put their foot down, Brady, just
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: to whatever he wants.
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: Did is Mario Lemu play for the Penguins when he
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: had ownership in the Penguins?
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I believe, Yeah, that is accurate.
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: So that was the only comparison I could think of, because, uh,
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: this topic has come up and he.
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: Has equity in his team in Miami.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: Right, do I just remember Mario Lemu as a kid
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: playing and having some sort of whether it was managerial
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: or ownership or something like that in the Penguins.
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: Well, if I've taken your own team, I guess it's
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: a little different. Like Tom would have to I guess
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: be a Raiders quarterback.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: I mean I know that for another team while he
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: owned one. It's like what are you even thinking?
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: Series where the inquiries like, yeah.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: He'd be a great mentor for Fernando and Mendoza. Ye right,
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: Like you know you ease him in, like let Brady
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: go out there.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: I don't know if Brady wants to get into a
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: training camp battle with Fernando Mendoza at forty eight years old, I.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: Don't know related to he played that flag football game
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: and he was Jim Ruffalo.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but I mean, you know, he throws a
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: touchdown in a flag football.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Game and now he's ready to I was saying, he's
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: like frustrated because they didn't they couldn't beat the flag team, and.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: He's like, I have to go back to the NFL
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: and prove them just don't do it, you know. I
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: mean he did look good, you know, yeah they got killed.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean it was a great I'm talking about
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: just him out there as a human being he looked
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: in shape.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he looked good. Yeah he's still he's in good shape.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, I I think as you get, especially in
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: your forties, as those hits that up.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's not as easy to bounce back,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: but hey, if any but he can do it being
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: in your sixties. I wish that this wasn't a new Pillow.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: I wish this wasn't the way that his post playing
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: career went.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Like I I wish that he the heel. I know,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I wish that it was different twelve. He's TV twelve.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: That's like how I look at it.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: It's just not going to movies and but you're a
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: patriot for life.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: I just wasn't what I wanted. Yeah, I too, it's
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: too much.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: The whole thing has been crazy.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah all right, so yeah, so I guess Tommy Cutletz
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: is our backup, right.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah for now.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: When we talked a little bit about, you know, maybe
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: some draft options to bring some guys in, it's I think.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: You draft somebody six round or what no Evan.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Evan pointed out, you know, do you want to draft
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: somebody who's going to be a backup, or do you
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: see somebody maybe that that you can develop. But I
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: like I've always said it, I think it's always good
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: business to draft quarterbacks and get a bunch of six
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: round picks.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Maybe throw on it at that and continue the pipeline.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: You just you never know.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: I'm also just curious how they felt about the Vito.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: I mean, we'll kind of I mean, I thought he
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: was great in that preseason game before. I mean, remember
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: we watched him the preseason game but been playing the Patriots.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: He looked pretty good, and it's like, man, they could
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: they could use somebody like this, and.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Then they ended up getting him.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: I'd love to know what his development was like last
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: year behind the scenes, you know, within the system, and
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: how did he take to it. Did they really say, wow,
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: you know he's making great strides. We feel like we
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: can move on from Dobbs. Or was it just strictly
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: a money thing with Dobbs, where they're like, you know,
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: we don't really want to pay a backup this much.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: We don't think we need him as much. But it's
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: interesting to see him. We see him get some.
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: Stupid things about de Vito behind the scenes last year,
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: like one of those guys that would you know, stay
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: late and throw with receivers that wanted it. He always
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: was out there early with Efton Chisholm. Sometimes both of
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: those guys were inactive and they go through workouts pre game,
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: like early early workouts and things like that.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: And I think that he.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: Kind of, you know, won some people over a little bit,
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: not that he needed to win people over, but you
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: know what I mean.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: But I do wonder that dynamic for that position is
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: different than virtually all the other ones because only one
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: guy plays, and you assume that any backup is going
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: to want to play, He's going to want to be
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: a starter. But does he understand that he's not and
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: then instead of being on your island, you know, which
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: I think has been a periodic problem in the past.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: And I don't know what it was with Joshua Dobbs.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: I'm not suggesting it was, but it was a little
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: bit of an issue with Brissette when they decided to
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: put Drake in the in the lineup in week five
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: or six or whatever it was. And clearly it was
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: an issue with Joe Milton, you know, with the guy
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: in that room who thought he should be, you know,
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: competing more for the starting job and Alex is right,
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Bailey Zappy thought he was better than he probably was,
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: but he thought he was better than Mac Jones, and
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: that was an issue at the time. So the dynamics
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: in that room are a little bit different than they.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Both stink. Let's call it what it is.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: I'm pretty good for the Fords last.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Ye because of your guy. I'll give you a guy credit.
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: Okay, both my guys, so you can give them both credit. Yeah,
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: I think that de Vito seems like you really liked
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: it here. I think it's, you know, he's a New
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: Jersey Northeast kind of guy. Yeah, you know, agents from
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: here in the North End, like every weekend. I felt like,
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: you know, So I think that they're they feel pretty
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: good about the way it went for him last year
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: here behind the scenes.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Can I jump on something real quick.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: I was just thinking about you mentioned Kyle Shanahan. I
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: just I'm so fascinated by the NFC West this year
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: and like.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: For so long.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: I mean it's just the Rams and the forty nine
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: ers and those and now the Seahawks have won.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: A Super Bowl.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, what a great division that that is. I mean,
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: it's got to be the best division in the league.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: I just don't remember a time where the North Division
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: had three really good teams that were all right there.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: And yeah, you know it's and I mean, right now,
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: it feels weird to say that San Francisco feels like
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: the third team to me right now, you know, I mean,
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: I feel like they're a little behind. And that's you know,
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: hasn't really been the case.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: Some of their their players are off was just starting
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: to age out a little bit, which is a big
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: part of it.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: You know, George Kittle, Kittles, banged up.
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: Kyle used Check like, guys like that are starting to
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: get a little bit older. You know, they had they
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: were absolutely decimated by injuries last year.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: If they if.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: They had, and you know, then obviously whatever the heck
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: is going on with Brandon i U happens. And so
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: you know, there was a lot of like extenuating circumtance.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: How long can Kyle Shanahan stay there with consistent third
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: place finishes and you know, in the division, like you know, good.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: Luck finding a better coach.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: So there's a difference between finishing at third place and
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: going twelve and five. Yeah, yeah, So it's you know,
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: like that's one of those that's a Felger fact right there, right,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: you know, like they went, you can still make the
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: one and Evans right, there'd be few teams that you
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: could stack up lost more man games to injury than
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: the Niners didn't. I'm talking about significant players to injury.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: And I don't even know, like they may have actually
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: were they hire seed than the Rams. I know they
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: both went twelve and five. I don't, I don't know.
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: It isn't that game against Seattle that they played the
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: second time for the division title and they lost.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: They lost both time, So you lose.
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: The division to the super Bowl champion, like you got
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: to tip your card out.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: So like you can say, well, they're a third place team.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: They were also ran, but they won twelve games. It's like,
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: and I know, Evan, you started to say this, the
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: NFC North is a you know, it's a nightmare too.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: And I would say it's an even better division because
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: I think all four teams are pretty good.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and at least the West has the Cardinals to
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: be rope on every Yeah.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Right, so yeah, Chicago's sort of rise last year means
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: all four of those teams are formidable. We'll see what
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: happens with with Green Bay in Detroit, in Minnesota, you
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: know Minnesota again, you could say, well, last place team
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: they went nine and eight. You know, not all last
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: place teams are the Jets that go three and four team,
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you just wonder if the owners can be patient
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: through that, and you know, like, yeah, and it was
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: rams for the fifth seed.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: The forty nine ers were with a sixth seed last year.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: But you know, it's just it's one of those things
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: where you have a really stacked division and you never
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: like you need to continue to stay at top, and
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: it's hard to maintain your position. And that's why it's
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: like the forty nine ers have been kind of like
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: golden child for some you know, the offensive coordinators.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it.
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: Reminds me a lot of Andy Reid and Philly right
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: or it's like.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: The offensive Golden Boy and they have Mike McDonald's the
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: defensive golden boy.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: The second that if Kyle Shanahan never got let go
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: by the Niners because he can't get over the hub,
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: he's going to get that Kansas City it e goals
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: to Kansas City thing, just like Andy Reid did, and
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: he'll have another ten years of success someplace else. So
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: sometimes the message runs its course and you have to
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: make those difficult decisions. But I can't imagine that they
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: think that's coming anytime soon.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: There's there's the Seahawks opponents. Who would you guys pick
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: for there? I'm just looking. I just see that Dallas
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: is on the west.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Question is should see in their opening night.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Dallas, Kansas City or the Chargers.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Maybe is Mahomes healthy because they yeah, see, I think
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: they won't do Kansas City because of you know, not
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: knowing Mahomes will be ready.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: Kind of like the Chargers though, I mean, that's not
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: crazy travel and it's you know, a team that was
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: banged up and maybe could have been in the mix
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: last year in the AFC A little bit, not a
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: bad One's.
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: Get the eyeballs though, it does.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Chargers, Yeah, Joe.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: So I hear the argument, let's wait, see what we
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: have for some and then let's get another, you know,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: chance at them. I also can see the point of
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: let's let's get right back in.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, see what we got see if we if we yeah,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, ultimately it doesn't really matter all that much.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: It all comes out. You got a play in the
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: order they put it there, but you are record.
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: I just wonder how you know the the cyclical stuff
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: of this, like the Seattle defense, the way they play defense,
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: the way they structure it. That's the thing right now
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: in the league. And McDonald's running it. The Raven's new
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: head coach. I'm bugging on right, Jesse is running it
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: like that's that's the defense. And you know, guys like
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: Josh McDaniels are spending the entire offseason trying to figure
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: out how to how to attack that. You know, they
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: had Kyle Shanahan on the Super Bowl pregame and that
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: Seahawks defense shut the Niners offense almost completely out two
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: times at the end of the year, the one that
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: Alex was talking about for the division and then in
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: the playoff game too, and he said, like they kicked
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: my butt, Like I had no answers for this. And
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: if those types of guys are struggling against that kind
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: of defense, you know that they're in the lab trying
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: to figure out solutions.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: It's it's made me more invested.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: To me, and I know sometimes those games are later, but
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: to watch those teams because it is it's such a
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: fascinating chess matchup. Where you know you're playing them twice,
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: you know you're going to have to deal with that.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: It's it's really interesting to me.
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, at some point, you got to be able to
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: run the ball, Like if they're going to play with
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: light boxes and they're gonna play with the two high safeties, like,
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: you have to figure out ways to run the football
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: like and run them out of those looks. If you
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: can't do that, then you're getting in like the Patriots
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: were in the Super Bowl where you're in third and
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: long all the time, and then you know they're in
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: dime and they're blitzing, you know, guys from left and
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: right and it gets chaotic. So I think that that's
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: really you know, just from a math standpoint, like if
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: you only have six or seven guys in the box,
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: like you should be able to run the football and
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: have the advantage. But their's defensive line is just so
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: good that they can't run the ball against them. So
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: it's fun.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Eight five five Pats five hundred is the hotline podcast
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: at Patriots dot Com. Is the email address. Christian from
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Virginia says, good afternoon, Fellas and Alex. The Eagles will
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: signed Elijah Moore one of AJ Brown's best friends from
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: his time at Old Miss. Seems like a push for
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: them to retain them. I think what the Eagles are
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: asking for him would be in overpay between the sneaky
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: offseason moves everyone going into their second year in McDaniel's system,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: and hopefully a viable tight end. Addition, the Patriots offense
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: should improve. That being said, Denzel Boston is getting too
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: much hate and if you fall to thirty one, we
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: should definitely pick him. Also, Brazil only ever plays on
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: the right side.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Weird. That happens a lot in college though. Offense.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, how did it work? Go from Marvin Harrison
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: and Riggie Wayne?
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I think it? Uh the Elijah More thing.
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: I think could go either way because they also signed
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: Hollywood Brown to a one year contract, so they have
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: two guys on one year deals and like, to me,
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: that signals like they might be trading AJ Brown.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: I agree with Evan, Yeah, Like.
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: I understand that they have a relationship, but I just wonder,
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: like you think you can look at that both ways, Like,
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: you know, you can look at it the way the
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: emailer looked at it, or you could say they're kind
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: of loading up on like you know Bridge receivers one
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: year deals because maybe they're thinking of trading AJ Brown.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: It just doesn't seem like a J Brown, like, oh
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: you saw my friend. Okay, I'm psyched, let's go.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: It seems like too much is gone to put the
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: toothpaste back into two at this point. But yeah, I
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: mean the way the emailer described it absolutely could be
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: possible that if they have a really good relationships as
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: former teammates, maybe that entices him to stay.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: I would I would think I would be dogeful if
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: you look at MaTx Crosby and I know that.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Was a weird situation, but he's back with the Raiders
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: and he'll be fine.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't want to.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: I know people are probably sick of the AJ Brown thing,
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: but like, are we all still one hundred percent in on.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: He's the guy and this is the right move for
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: the Patriots to make.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Well, it all depends on what you're giving up, you
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: know this, The emailer says what the Eagles are asking,
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: which I don't know what that is, but he claims
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: that's too much. He doesn't want to do it. Some
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: other people might say, well I would give up that,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Well, forget about the compensation. Is he the right player
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: for the Patriots?
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: I think it depends on what your expectations are.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: My expectator would be he's a what your first wide
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: receiver that draws that other teams have to gain plan for.
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: Okay, So just I agree, But it was Digs that
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: to you, because I think they're in similar chapters.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: You know, a J.
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: Brown to me, just watch him. I think he's kind
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: of lost half a step. That doesn't mean he's not effective, though,
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: And I think the same thing with Diggs, Like I
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: don't think Diggs was peak Diggs.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Would you consider Diggs the right player for the team
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: last year?
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that you might get then you
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: think he is, Yeah, but I yes.
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: But I also would say, like if you're expecting to
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: get d aj Brown that was in Tennessee and then
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: the one that started to you know, in Philly, for
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: it was like an all Pro, first team, all Pro
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: caliber receiver like that, that's probably not who he is anymore. So,
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: like it's it's all about whether you think that that's okay,
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: Like he's going to be a thousand yard receiver, just
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: like Diggs was a thousand yard receiver. But it's not
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: going to be fifteen hundred.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: How many receivers in the league would you say is
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: the team's number one and even when teams game plan
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: for them, they still are productive only a handful. I
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: was like, maybe sixteen. If that, oh that's if that
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: half the Yeah, if that half the teams have a
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: guy like that.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: If that, I would say that, yeah, I mean a
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: little bit higher on some of these guys. Felger and
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: maz went through this a couple of weeks ago, and
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: you know, there's you know, guys that I would absolutely
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: consider that that. They said, no, he stinks like Ceedee
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Lamb as an example, is a number one receiver productive?
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I would say that, So.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: I care too much about like they like because.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: They see one play that that bothers them.
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: Because it's because Dallas doesn't win. So they get like
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: they put that on Ceedee Lamb that they always don't win.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Again, I do this way too often. We delve into
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: the like the psychology of my two boys. But Felger's
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: ideal receiver is not the you know, the flashy like
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson. He'll take those guys because
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: those guys are so good that he'll take them. But
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: he wants like the gritty guy that's catching is over
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: the middle and taking hits and and and you know, like, yeah,
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: that's that to me is the difference. He would have
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: taken Wes Welcome over Randy Moss every day of the
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: week and twice on Sunday, and he would insist that
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: he's right about it now.
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but like that Ceedee Lamb, like Ceedee Lamb is
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: a high volume receiver, Like that's not He's not Alf
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: Pearce that's catching fifty balls for a thousand yards, Like
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: he's you know, one hundred plus catch guy. Yeah, routinely.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: I just I guess, like you know, probably putting years,
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: he's a top five receiver in the league.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: I don't question it.
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: That's crazy to think anything other than that.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And some of some of the team, like like
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: that one last year had two of those guys. Cincinnati
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: has two of those guys. If you ask me, you know,
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: so I think Fred, you know, would you say sixteen
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: probably you know.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, ten or twelve anyway, Yep.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: I just I think it's we've been talking about it
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: so much and it's been hovering in the ether. For like,
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: it feels like five years now of AJ Brown to
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: the Patriots.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Nothing bothers Mike more than number one receiver talk. Well,
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: it takes away from his defense.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: I want to make sure that he is number one
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: my receiver, and I don't want to like spend all
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: this time along back longing for a J.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Brown box and then he gets here and everybody's like
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: he's not enough anymore. That's it.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, narrative, like anybody was saying that because.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Hatreds had gotten Calvin Ridley, would that have been a mistake?
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: No, I mean Brandon I would have been a mistake.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: I was I was going to go to him and
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: get hurt. Yeah, yes he did. Yeah, Like I mean,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: does he still get hurt like that?
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: That's but there's also things that have come out since
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: then that they could be Like I don't know if
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: I'd want to invest.
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: But he went off the reservation.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: I think it's because of San Francisco whatever for whatever.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's the station.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the electric station.
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: Don't get me started on the EMS.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: That's okay, there for thirty years, all of a sudden,
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: you know, I feel like.
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: The Niners had such good chemistry and they all love
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: like it seems like a really close knit team.
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: I I think it was like you, I think could he.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Could very.
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: Like that's not like anybody's fault.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: But he may not have gone off the reservation if
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: he was in Foxborough. Maybe now he might have gone
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: off the reservation way before. He didn't see Francisco. Yeah,
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: like there's no way or knowing.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: No, I just that that that's what my that's what
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: my worries that we're putting all these hopes and dreams
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: on AJ Brown and he's not really that guy anymore.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: And a year and a half from now, we're going
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: to be sitting here saying we still got a draft
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: that number one guy, you know, and that it probably
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: will be and could we have been better served of,
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: you know, drafting somebody at thirty one and developing.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: So I would just argue that if AJ Brown came
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: to the Patriots and hit it out of the park,
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: you'd still be looking for a number one receiver in
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: the draft.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: In two years.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, agree, because at some point, like these guys, you know,
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: they only have so much.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: Well, let me put it in terms, you love Paul,
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: because I was I've been watching a little ninety six
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: pats And you know, and I'm watching Drew Bledsoe with
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: his first round rookie Terry Glenn, who he loves and
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: Chuck in two.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: He's got a great tight end in Ben Cots, and
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: he's got Curtis Martin.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: He's and and and in that moment, you're saying, I've
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: got a rookie wide receiver could be a star.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: I've got a third year quarterback who could be a star.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: I've got to you know, it's this. I know it
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: didn't all work out that way, but I think that's
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: the best place.
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: You know, what is your what is your faith that
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: they can identify the receiver faith faith?
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: So then that faith is that you just you have
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: to keep doing it, like you know what I mean,
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: faith at all.
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: That's the issue is like it's it's all.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: But is that real or is that just circumstantial that
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: you've had multiple different people picking guys and it's just it.
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: I mean, like Jalen Polk just happened two years ago,
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: you know, Kyle Williams, why I I think could like
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: I still holding that hole, but like the rookie year
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: was not exactly you know, right until they prove that
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: they can do it, and so that's I think the
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: part that that is the sticking point to me is
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: like I my confidence level that they are going to
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: draft develop identify the right receiver, I.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Have a question, is very low.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: These random things that interestingly mean, who do you think
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: had a better rookie training camp? Jalen Polk?
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: O kyo wa Jalen Polk all day? Yeah? I think
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Jalen Polk too, Yeah, all day he was all over that.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: I didn't think either one of them was very good.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: But I would say Polk had a better camp than Williams.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, he was active, he called multiple balls in
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: every practice.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Now that's so that's unfair. I mean, I agree with
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: both of your assessments.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: The one thing about an opportunity.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: Polk is catching everything within ten yards of the line
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: of scrimmage, and Williams is going downfield almost every route
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: that he's been asked to run.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: And Evan would have the average per target a.
• 42:32
  Speaker 7: Big one too, because Williams came in with a way
• 42:35
  Speaker 7: more crowded receiver room.
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: That was the big narrative, like who's going to get
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: pol right in there?
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: Is like we want you to got another good you know,
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: but I just like I can't believe that, Like Ryan
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: Cowden arrives in Foxborough and all of a sudden.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: He's like a ROI receiver. What I don't know how
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: to draft him? You know, Like I just fet like
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: is there, like what is it? Like the Waters say
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: it like that.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: It's a literal curse, Like didn't Elliott Wall draft some
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: good receive Green Bay?
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, like are we giving him credit for things
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: that his father did? Like?
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: But but no, he didn't keep the season in charge of.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. I mean, it's some guys.
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to agree with you, but like.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: You don't you don't have evidence.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't like dismiss a position because you haven't
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: had success.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: No, absolutely not.
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: But like Kyle Williams, I think has one thing going
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: for him and that he has like a special trade.
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: His speed is like a special thing. I don't know
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: what ja Jail Polks was supposed to be his hands
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: and best hands in the league and that did not
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: go so well. So like maybe Kyle Williams has a way,
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: you know, a path because of his explosiveness and his
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: speed to at least have a role in the offense.
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: But I I just until they hit on a receiver,
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: it's gonna be hard to buy into the fact that
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: that's how it's gonna get done is by drafting a
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: guy and going that route, especially at thirty one. Like
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: if we were talking about them picking high again and
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: they were taking you know, a Jamar Chase or something
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: like that, then it would be like, okay, like you
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: can't miss miss.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: On that, So maybe you give them some credit for that.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: A lot of these.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Guys who are those elite bid receivers are just you're
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: in a top five pick that year and that guy
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: fell in your lap, and congratulations.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: I would say, but I would say that that's happening Jefferson.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: But if there's only like.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Sixteen of them, fred and Freddy would identify justin Jefferson,
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: how hard could it be?
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: I would say that, ith, that's happening less and less
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: because I think that.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: I think the position is being valued more.
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: In positions getting valued more, Maybe they're getting a little
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: bit better at evaluating it. You know, out of the
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: draft there's a fewer like Terry mclaurin's right, like that
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: are making it. You know that I don't think that's
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: truly happening quite as much anymore because these guys just
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: fly off the board.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: There are always exceptions like Puka, But I think I
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: think that what you just touched on and I don't
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: have this is anecdotal. You know, a guy like Belichick
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: would always tell you, you know, most guys aren't that important.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: And I think there are more evan tightepants, younger offensive
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: minded guys around the league that do think that that
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: position is really important. And that's why I think they're
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: starting to go a little bit earlier in the draft
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: than they than they once did. But Bill would have waited,
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: you can win with other guys. You don't need, you
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: don't need the shiny object. Now pretty much every one
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: of the teams that has, you know, like you know,
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: the Eagles had AJ.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Brown and Devonte Smith two years ago.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: Obviously, the Seahawks had JSN Like it used to be,
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: like those guys don't win the title, you know again,
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: back to my boy Felger Randy Moss failure because you
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: didn't win the Super Bowl, you know, because they came
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: seventeen seconds away from going nineteen to zero with him
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: being a record setting wide.
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: Receivers for twenty years.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: You can't win like that. Yeah, of course you could
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: win like that. They did.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: You know, they went they lost the last game through
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: no fault of by the way, the guy who put
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: them ahead with the game with the go ahead.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Touchdown almost caught them. What would have been a mail.
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: Mary Crown talk about that.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: But I mean it's just look in recent years now
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: the teams that are winning, and there's all different ways
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: to win, and it's cyclical. But you know you they
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: used to say, like, if you have one of those
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: number one DIVA receivers, you can't win. Well, teams have
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: found a way to win in recent years.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Well, do you feel that expectations are going to be
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: too high for a J? Brown though? If he comes here?
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Like do you think that the fan base?
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: That's up to you, Mike, whatever you have, But I
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: think that the flame and what they trade for him,
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: Like if they trade their twenty twenty seven first round pick,
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: right then, yeah, But if they get a deal and
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: it's a second and a fourth, I mean I go
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: back to would you I would do that for Yeah,
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: it's the second and a fourth, Yeah, I consider it.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: I consider it. I mean they still have Chisholm times
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: of hard bargain over there. I consider it.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: It's probably going to cost you a first, but he
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: consider a second and a four.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the first scares me. I mean, I
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: think that's what this all kind of boils down to.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Is it going to be worth the first.
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: And especially where you're looking at future ass that's as
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: Evan laid out last show. You know, I think this
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: is going to be a higher pick probably next year
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: in all likelihood.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: So you're you know, that's a big that's a lot.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: That's a lot to give up, and.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: I think at twenty twenty seven first is a lot
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: to get.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, till June and you would talking about twenty
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: seven picks, then I would go with the second round theory.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I agree with you.
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: Yes, I think it's really hard to commit to giving
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: up a twenty twenty seven first when you don't know
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: when that first that pick is going to be, Like
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: you're hoping it's low in the round, Drake may gets hurt.
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: It's not going to be low in the round, right, So,
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: like you know, I think that that's a it's a
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: it's a tough one that I think is bargaining for
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: Elliott Wolf to be like, well, if we had done
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: this before, you were getting the thirty first pick, we
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: felt comfortable with that.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: We don't get feel common.
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: You can't put pick protections in an NFL trade like
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: you can in the NBA. So like you're we could
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: have the number one overall Pick're like for all we know? Right,
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: Like you know, anything's possible. That's what I would be saying.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Dustin writes in on podcasts at Patriots dot Com.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting here at work taking a trip down memory
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: lane Drake May's rookie season. To be exact, Living in
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Illinois is tough for a Patriots fan, as we never
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: really get to see our boys in action unless it's
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: a chance of a Bears home game every other year. Well,
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: I was lucky enough to be there November tenth of
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: the twenty four season. Watching the defense dominate poor Caleb
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: Williams was absolutely amazing, and I will never forget taking
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: that undefeated home streak of eight to zero away from
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: them with the poorest score of nineteen to three. It
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: was a great drive home and I can't wait to
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: see them dominate again this year.
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: That was a fun game that was one of the
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: few five turn over some what'd they have? It was
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: a stacked in the nine nine sacks. Carl's favorite package,
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: the Longhorn package with Brendan Skull schoolers worked around.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: No, that was that was.
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: I know, the Cincinnati game in Week one kind of
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: gets propped up a little bit. But that Bears game
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: was a fun game that they They played well that
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: day at least defense.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: There weren't a lot of wins, but yeah, it's a
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: good one.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: I don't really understand the whole undefeated thing though, Like
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: Chicago stunk that they lost like the lot you know,
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: they lost that Hail Mary game in Washington. Then they
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: didn't win again like until I think they maybe won
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: the last game of the year.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: But that was a tough year for Chicago.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: All right, A five to five Pats five hundred. We
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: mentioned the word wide receiver or the position, and Eldred
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: is on the phone.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: What's up? Eldred? The bat signal?
• 49:35
  Speaker 9: Yeah, what's up? Yeah? I wish I was doing blewing
• 49:40
  Speaker 9: my home again, but I've been off for a minute.
• 49:43
  Speaker 9: But hey, I got a question for you for the panel.
• 49:47
  Speaker 9: Who came from Nick Cattle's from Locked on Patriots, and
• 49:52
  Speaker 9: he got it from Greg Bernard that they don't want
• 49:54
  Speaker 9: to do the A. J. Brown, so you think they
• 49:56
  Speaker 9: don't need him. But he also heard it in the office,
• 50:00
  Speaker 9: which is uh, I guess to come out to the
• 50:01
  Speaker 9: coach's office. They think they find it wide receiver what
• 50:04
  Speaker 9: they have now and how do you feel about that?
• 50:08
  Speaker 9: And Evan, I loved to show yesterday, but I got
• 50:14
  Speaker 9: a bone to pick with youre bro Brods got better
• 50:16
  Speaker 9: hands than Boston and he didn't run that because he
• 50:20
  Speaker 9: were running full six five at the combine, so that's
• 50:23
  Speaker 9: why he didn't run it. And no, give me brows
• 50:26
  Speaker 9: at thirty one. And I'm just like you. I'll flip
• 50:28
  Speaker 9: a flip a wig and go by the jersey at
• 50:30
  Speaker 9: the same minute as soon as they get him. But uh,
• 50:34
  Speaker 9: A J. Brown next year they want a first in
• 50:36
  Speaker 9: a second, I guarantee you, because if they got a first,
• 50:40
  Speaker 9: suck it in a thirty for Water or fourth. They
• 50:42
  Speaker 9: gonna want the thing for him, even though Water is
• 50:44
  Speaker 9: youngle and I think it's too high. Get your receiver,
• 50:47
  Speaker 9: And I agree with Evans. I'm afraid of them drafting
• 50:50
  Speaker 9: one because they ain't showed yet. And I take it
• 50:52
  Speaker 9: off the air.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Thank you, all right, thanks Eldred.
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: What was probably the one thing Boston's better at his hands.
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: He's got probably the best set of hands in this
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: class at that position.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: I like him.
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: I like just everything I know.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: I know, I feel like I'm I'm gonna take a
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: lot of crap for that one, but I feel like
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: I just like that kid. I mean, it's just reliable guy.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: Do we get too obsessed with speed?
• 51:16
  Speaker 10: You know?
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: Is it kind of guy who can be his outlet
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: and you know, pick up that those short to intermediate
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: routes and you know, third downs and just it seems
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: to me and I've evolved, like I used to be
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: looking at all those slot receivers, it doesn't seem like
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: that's Drake's jam.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: I want, you know, bigger possession guys. But at what
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: cost the speed? That's the trade off with those guys.
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: I quit the Denzel Boston's after nik Kill Harry I said,
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: I've never I've never fallen for the banana and the tails.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Who went to Jalen Polk school. You know, it's not
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: never great. It's not like pointing in the right direction,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: But I just I like how we plays. I have Alex,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: I can still talk about regular stuff.
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: With great hands, great body control, great contested catchability, hands
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: catching translates like guys that catch the ball away from
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: their bodies and have catch radiuses. And you know, that's
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: what all the best receivers in football do. Like everybody
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: has to deal with contact and coverage the NFL, like
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: Christian Gonzal is gonna be in your hip pocket. Yeah right,
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: that's that's gonna happen. So you know what I like
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: about Denzel Boston is that Drake May has the accuracy
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: down the field to throw him open. So when he's
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: sitting on a corner and he sees, okay, I can
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: throw the back shoulder here, I could throw it up
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: to him like he's going to be able to throw it,
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: you know, through the keyhole and put it right where
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: Denzel Boston's gonna be able to catch it. And Boston's
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: got great hands, great body control to do that.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: Brad's in Ohio. What's up, Brad?
• 52:42
  Speaker 8: Hello, Krew?
• 52:43
  Speaker 11: How's it going this afternoon?
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 52:46
  Speaker 11: Good, good to see you got a little free times.
• 52:49
  Speaker 11: So I just wanted to reiterate them things and forgive me,
• 52:54
  Speaker 11: I don't have to rest the drone. But i'mat some
• 52:57
  Speaker 11: things from the last show where I called, and uh,
• 53:01
  Speaker 11: Evan wasn't there and Deuce wasn't there, and I know
• 53:04
  Speaker 11: they know about the draft, so.
• 53:06
  Speaker 8: Uh, first of all.
• 53:07
  Speaker 11: I want to first, do you guys ever get to
• 53:10
  Speaker 11: ask questions to like the Scalps, people that actually choose
• 53:15
  Speaker 11: the players.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all the time they come to us.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: Now I wish well, I mean, you know, no, they
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: don't make them available to the present.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:26
  Speaker 11: Well, I was wondered about because you know, we had
• 53:28
  Speaker 11: talked about. I heard Evan when I got a chance
• 53:31
  Speaker 11: to see the you know, yesterday's show. Uh, he was
• 53:35
  Speaker 11: talking about Marlon Klein, and I'm a Michigan guy. I remember,
• 53:38
  Speaker 11: I you know, I know these players. And Marlin Klein
• 53:43
  Speaker 11: is a good receiving hands, tight end, good receiver for
• 53:48
  Speaker 11: a big guy. Though one of the things he struggled
• 53:50
  Speaker 11: with is inline blocking.
• 53:52
  Speaker 9: So he's good at slot blocking.
• 53:54
  Speaker 11: He could have probably blocked that guy from Seattle that
• 53:57
  Speaker 11: we played against in the slot.
• 53:58
  Speaker 9: But if he put him.
• 53:59
  Speaker 11: On the end against the defensive end, not all that strong,
• 54:04
  Speaker 11: So okay.
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: Let's not draft him that. But is he not that strong?
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: Brad or I mean he Marlon Klein uh is from Germany. Uh,
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: he's a German born prospect. He's very very late to
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: American football. So like I thanks Brad. I think he's
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: a pretty strong kid. I think he just needs technique
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: work because he's new to the sport. Like he literally
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: just hasn't been playing the sport for that long. H
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: So you know he's to college Michigan, Michigan, but he's
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: German born. I I meant to run that tell maybe
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: we should. I meant to tell our people about that.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be curious to just volmar about him
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: the way the way he talked about him. You know,
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: like you know in line, you know struggle, so you're
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: talking about he would struggle to block a defensive end
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: in past protection or you're trying to get the run
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: game going, he can't block. Yeah, it's a end. Like
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: to me, those are two very different.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Run game stuff.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: I think that he's raw because he's just late to
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: the sport. He I think he probably moved here in
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: high school maybe, and you know, like he hasn't. He's
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: not one of these guys that was playing Pop Warner
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: you know at nine years old. Right, So he's just
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: got a little bit of ways to go from a
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: technique standpoint, but he's you know, six four two fifty
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: ran a four to six and the forty yard dash.
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: Can you can see the receiving skills. He's a fun
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: Day three guy that you know because of his upside,
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: and we'll see, you know, if they can develop him
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: technique wise.
• 55:34
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  Speaker 1: Really just an expruciating defeat.
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  Speaker 17: It's impressive you keep back the should lose this skate
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  Speaker 17: down to eat, okay, and they bring out a bunch
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• 58:23
  Speaker 17: It's not just one side of the ball, it's every
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  Speaker 17: single one of us.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: You have to start over. They aren't good enough with
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: where this roster is.
• 58:30
  Speaker 12: You need a little more information, right, I'd like to
• 58:31
  Speaker 12: see a little more consistency.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Well, the Patriots are there, they're a finished product. That's
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: not the case. There's still steps.
• 58:37
  Speaker 9: They have to take.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: We got to get back to work and we will.
• 58:40
  Speaker 18: This team is not going anywhere, right.
• 58:47
  Speaker 19: ERTs.
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  Speaker 1: I think hurts.
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  Speaker 16: I think something to learn from which was a long
• 58:52
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• 58:55
  Speaker 1: Turn the page.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking about the Caroline Panthers.
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  Speaker 1: These are the games you have to start to win.
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  Speaker 2: And you'd like to go too and two instead of
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• 59:04
  Speaker 1: To me, that's a big difference.
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  Speaker 14: It's good.
• 59:35
  Speaker 16: Well, the Pats are gonna win.
• 59:37
  Speaker 20: Get Buffalo and a marquee victory in the Fifth League
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• 59:44
  Speaker 5: Sunday night was ominous for the rest of the NCS.
• 59:47
  Speaker 10: Talk about taking the next step, okay, and they run
• 59:49
  Speaker 10: away and we took the.
• 59:51
  Speaker 21: Next step Rainball, There you go.
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: Drake may he is playing at an MVP caliber level.
• 59:57
  Speaker 16: Sets up last he throws the people. One of the
• 59:59
  Speaker 16: buf does look to the touchdown Patriots.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: They're gonna want to destroy the Titans.
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  Speaker 16: They'll go what he loads up, he's hoping man body
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 16: and he reaches to he stabs him. He tells it
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 16: to the end zone because Brabe, we love playing for you.
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  Speaker 3: Appreciate glad you're a head coach and we love to coding.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 6: Hey team three two three, an hour five and two.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 16: Watches on I throw down fields, Hawkins stand out and diving.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 16: He next the interception throws are from Popped Douglas. One
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 16: from Patriots touchdown.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: It's amazing what they've been able to do in New England.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: Locked the BA right its coron like Kyle.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: Lambs speaks to get White simon your zone.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 16: Touchdown this man, they can't cover us. That's a hard
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• 1:00:52
  Speaker 16: Black girl will go on and he thought up he's
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 16: a Bok six yourkest Jones.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 6: Patriots are gonna get their ten win.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: I mean this is a complete team. They're playing great
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: special team.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 16: Dude House touchdown, Patriots blots.
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  Speaker 20: Dart's gonna go and get Pops, get gets your time.
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  Speaker 1: And this is different around here. I mean he is
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: a different head coach.
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  Speaker 16: Tell Us I appreciate you, man.
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  Speaker 1: You took the message and you were willing.
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  Speaker 21: To go and be a champion from front.
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  Speaker 22: Hey, I love the brotherhood in here and all right
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 22: with any of y'all any day, all right, So I
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 22: love you guys.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you, guys.
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  Speaker 16: Hey pass out three watching three guys.
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  Speaker 20: Why first night of Point in Baltimore, Maryland, thirty three degree.
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  Speaker 20: It's at M and G Fakes Stadium, Oh with a
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  Speaker 20: two times super Bowl champion Baltimore for ratedness.
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  Speaker 23: Is Drake made ready for a super Bowl run.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna know a lot more after this one.
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  Speaker 21: We talked about everything we gotta do, and everything we
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 21: need is all right here, right. We got the talent, man,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 21: we got the resolve. Right, they're gonna hit a player two.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 21: We got the dissolve in here, all right. Everything you've
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 21: got sixty minutes for each other and there's nothing else.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: You're never out of the play. The play is never over.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 21: Okay.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 18: I understand, fellows. You're gonna need some technique along the way.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 18: It's a street fighting. We're not walking into the quit.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 18: You need some technique and fundamental of them all the way.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 18: Figure out some details to help you do your job
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 18: and as always, make great decisions, the one that are
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 18: gonna help us win. Stick together no matter what happens.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 18: But have a belief that as this thing goes, you're
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 18: gonna make.
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  Speaker 21: The play whenever.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: Every sure part these games are important.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 20: The Buffalo game, there is a let you the second
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 20: up this game against a Baltimore team that needs to
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 20: really big test on their way.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 21: Hopefully to the players.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 24: When you come off back to back seasons where you
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 24: totaled eight wins and now to be sitting here saying, hey,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 24: we control our role into winning our division and hosting
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 24: a playoff game. I think that's where anybody would have
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 24: signed up for, you know, dating back to August. So
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 24: I think for the Patriots, it's all about how do
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 24: we play our best in those big moments. That's what
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 24: they'll have to learn how to do, and you know
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 24: you they'll get great practice, I think leading off these
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 24: last three games. So if you treat them like playoff
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 24: games getting into the playoffs, you just keep that same
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 24: mentality and keep it rolling.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: We still got home, bro, we still got tom. I
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: like these type of dame. Find out what you made
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: of Thanks.
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  Speaker 19: Joy put Indiana, let's go really bad.
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  Speaker 25: A touchdown.
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  Speaker 16: Game on that bultimate.
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  Speaker 12: Hey aldah, we kind of dig deep.
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  Speaker 16: Now come to handle the time, man, booo react book
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  Speaker 16: burriac hey, finde away, he's out, come home fine away
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  Speaker 16: you a promise ship, come.
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  Speaker 1: On any steam it to eet in second.
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  Speaker 4: Pray steep me to.
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  Speaker 3: Still.
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  Speaker 21: Don't do England.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 20: New England has erased a double digit deficity.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 21: You do that right out a great come on, come
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 21: on mo come mama. I thought you're right. I thought
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 21: you go that.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 22: No, you're lighting a stop. That's all we gotta do.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 22: So we gotta do get a stop? What are you
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 22: talking about in a two minutes? Right, Hey, it's your time.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 22: Let's go look at Wow.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: That's son.
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  Speaker 20: You can't.
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  Speaker 1: Tell God you enough? Man, I tell you, Man, I
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: tell you many.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 22: Oh man, I'll find your rolley.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 23: Some teams desperately need a win. Maybe the Patriots needed
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 23: a loss. Just had to wonder how much did they
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 23: learn from that experience in Buffalo or against the Bills
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 23: that have helped them here in this one to night.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 23: It's a young team, they're growing, they're learning. Mike Brabel
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 23: didn't go crazy on him. He's like, let's just learn
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 23: from it, and I think.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 20: They have and Mike Rabel's first year leading the Pets
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 20: New England well be a part of the tournament.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: But Patriots put a playoff.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 10: Ward gay fell for the next five hours and let's
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 10: call it fifteen minutes, Okay, for the next five hours
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 10: and fifteen minutes.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: I need your best.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 16: Okay, the team needs.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 10: Your best because we can make this schedule this week
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 10: work and you guys can enjoy Christmas Eve, you can
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 10: enjoy Christmas Day. I think that you've earned that. But
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 10: we've got to get the next two days and starting
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 10: with the next five hours, we've got to get this
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 10: nailed out.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: And now great moments in history.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: Week four matchup with the Carolina Panthers. It's Evan Paul, myself,
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  Speaker 2: Duce Alex is here because it's picks day and she
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: needs her flowers. I was gone, she needs her flowers
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: Every Thursday.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: You have to play with the stick. It's a it's
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: a yeah, it's a bit. Yeah, it's a bit. She
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: has some company at the this week, though, does she
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: We'll find that out later in the show.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 6: You're fishing for compliments right now.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: Wow, I like it. Okay, I didn't go the way
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: Fred dot But you know, for me, it's no big thing.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: That's another great moment from.
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  Speaker 1: So easy to do. I think she's to sign up
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  Speaker 1: over the great moment.
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  Speaker 6: I puting because there's never any flowers here for me.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: The flowers are verbal.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: You you young kids don't figure getting your flowers verbally?
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 6: What the kids say?
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: The kids say, total consciousness.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I like some flowers for future flowers on
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 7: flowers noted hydrangers pianist.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah you're talking to the right person. Yeah,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: you know you have to looking at my credit card savement.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: Who are these flowers for?
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  Speaker 9: Right?
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 21: Oh?
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, your wife's calling the HR department.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Quick story.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: I left out today my anniversary my nineteenth wedding anniversaries
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: on Tuesday, and I like, got my wife this like
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: pretty cool thing. I thought I had to over order
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: it from overseas though nothing nothing big, like we always
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: just you know, each anniversary has like paper copper, it's
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: like a material, so we just do something cheap within
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: that range, not necessarily cheap, but I found her a
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: great thing.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: But it was like stuck in like customs for like
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: two weeks, just sitting there and like it's Tuesday, I
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: still don't have it.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: Thanks, And then finally today I got the email that
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: it's somehow went through Jamaica, but now it's it was Ukraine.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: I know, it's like it's in key. If you come
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: like that's that's not good. But it's going to be
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: here Saturday, so I hope it is okay. I don't
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: want to ruin I don't want to ruin the president.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: I was gonna have to go out to like Walmart
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: and get something like at least some chocolates in a
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: card to like supple and be like it'll be here sometime.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: I think as soon as the war. And you don't celebrate.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: We celebrate them, but we usually just go out to dinner.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: That's what very small.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: I mean ours just like fifty bucks, like you get
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: a little like piece of jewelry or you know, something
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: like that with them.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: I'm already I'm already being told ideas for our one
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: year anniversary, and I were still months away from it,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: and I'm like, you've got this on your mind already July.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, what's your what's the first year? I
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: wonder what let's look? Yeah, I don't for me, congratulate, sir.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: That's a good one, good number five random things.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: Speaking of random things, I was I was just thinking
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: of you knows the letter W. Shouldn't it be called
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: double v?
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: Oh? That's definitely Stephen Wright's rendive.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 6: It's rounded. Oh okay, I get what came first print? Cursive?
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 9: Right right?
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 6: So it's rounded?
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, did you learn cursive? You guys?
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 5: I think, but we, like I think we were the cutoff.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 6: We were probably the last the Mohicans.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: Could you write a cursive queue right now?
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I could write my name and cursive because I.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: Had a hard time doing a queue period. It's like
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: a backwards it's a weird it's a weird one.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 24: I know.
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  Speaker 6: I still write in cursive, honestly.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: Like half when when we had writing, you know, we
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: did it in pencil back then, and you have the
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: yellow paper with the lines. And since I'm a lefty,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: I get lead all over your hand.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: Me too fair for you guys, did you have like
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: you got to use the one desk that was the
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: left handed desk? Did you have those? The world set
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: up for a righty there was no accommodations. Maybe that
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: both you guys are left handed.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: I mean I'm so old that when I was in
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: grade school the desks had ink wells that hold to
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: put the inking?
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, did.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 5: Like do you eat with your left hand? Like like
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: you're always bumping people at the.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: Table because because idiot for tennis left.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: My sister is a lefty too, and like so we'd
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 5: always put her at like the end of the table
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: because she's always.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: Be Everybody always would say that up at the end
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: because you're lefty. Never really, did you ever have any
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: issues with that? I've never had.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 6: My step mom has the issue that all the time,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 6: Like half of it is.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: Just teaser being left when you how would you cut up?
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: Let me see how you would hold what hand would
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: you hold a fork? And what hand would you hold
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: the night?
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: I hold the fork with my right hand and I
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: cut with my left hand.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: So that's why it's never been an issue with me.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: I guess I cut my I used to cut the
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: knife in the right hand. I think, yeah, but we're righty.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: That makes sense. Yeah, I'm lefty, all right, So you're
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: the word one.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: They say lefties are more creative.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: They do say that, really, they do say that because
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: me and my sister are the opposite.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 5: She's like the book smart, you know, school smart person,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 5: and I'm the writer.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: So I think that your.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 5: Creative compared to my sister.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 21: Yeah, I was joking.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: My sister is like marketing. I have concepts, I break
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: down there's actually someone.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 7: This is and O's are kind of really analytical too,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 7: Like the nature of your writing, how creative is it?
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: I mean, like I was probably supposed to be an accountant,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 5: if we're being honest, and like I just like do
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 5: I just do like sports. It's just in like a
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 5: different it's repackaged in a different way.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: Sports average target sports. Okay, right, that's the that's the phrase, right,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: I know that, But little a little lesson. I'm not
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: talking right now. I'm talking to the ball man zone
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: beater on the front side, but on the backside of
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: man beers robber Robert. Wow, It's like, what are we doing?
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: I'm the one that started it with the w that's
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: but that's true. It's it's like two v's.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I guess cursive w is round it? Yeah,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: cursive sure is like when not now when I write, like,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: it's a mix. Yeah, me too, you know it's a
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: mix of cursive.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: And and what do they call it printing? Print?
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 7: Yea, even with ease Like some I'll write a sentence
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 7: that has multiple e's, there will be some ease that
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 7: are printed and some that are It depends on the
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 7: letter that's before it.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: It's so weird all that work and now it's.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 6: Just yeah, I know, it's kind of sad, is it.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: Did you really do a lot of work to learn cursive?
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 21: Well?
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: I mean I remember I spend a lot of time
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: in school.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they were like you need to learn this, but
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 6: else you're not going to be.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: Told that you needed to learn like algebra that are useless,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: not basic finances though, yeah.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 5: Right, like that would have been helpful, but instead I
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 5: was learning calculus I took that high school I took
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 5: in my senior year was like a like basics to
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 5: like life, you know, like what's a mortgage, what's this,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: what's the you know that type of stuff?
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: What's interest that's a good credit that how to you know,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: avoid credit card?
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 7: I don't want you to learn that could have taken
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 7: student loans.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: Maybe I get more than three hours sleep.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 6: People are concerned. I've had a lot of people reaching people.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: People have been all over.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 6: Reached out to me after the last night.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: But basically because you know they're they're right to be concerned.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, people people wanted another option in the polling, uh
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: when it was talking about your health, because I think
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: it was just a yes no answer and they wanted
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: to be able to write.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: So I missed. I missed the poll. Yeah, I didn't
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: realize that.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 6: Paul's questions about sleep, Are you concerned.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: About what the I don't know what.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 7: We'll find out today, we'll find out tomorrow.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: There, I missed the poll.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 5: I think it's funny that that's what, like, what keeps
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 5: me up at night is.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: Even more useless than cover three. Yeah, this is useless.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: This is real. It's like I wonder.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 6: Where my Paul's deal with some real life stuff.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: Mine paycheck to paycheck.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to think of player comps right for like
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 5: the wide receivers.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 6: And the crap.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: Last night, I'm like trying to think of, like, all right, who,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 5: Like I'm going through the names and I'm just like, oh, man,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 5: Like I can't like it's I feel like I can
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 5: see it, but I can't get the name. And so
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 5: then I had to get my phone out because I
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: really was bugging the crap out of.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 6: The newsletter question this week.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 7: We won't spoil it, but like, what's the biggest problem
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 7: you're dealing with in your life right now?
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: Different trying to keep Cayden and Caleb Procter.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 5: No, that was I swear last night because I was,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 5: you know, I like to put I like to comps.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 5: I think it's good. And I was trying to think
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 5: of a comp for Jordan Tyson and like I can
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 5: see it in my head, you know, like I know
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 5: how he plays and who he I think he is,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 5: and I'm just like, who is this guy? And so
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 5: I literally took my phone out at like twelve thirty.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: I was looking at some stuff yesterday and I forget
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: who the guy was. I think it was one of
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: the linebackers, and there was you know, like you sometimes
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: you go on the various sites like draft Buzz or
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: NFL dot com and they'll have the little Scott Reports,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: and some of them will have like an NFL comparison
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: the guy that this guy was compared to. I had
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: never heard that name in my life, and I couldn't
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: even give it back. It was so unfamiliar to me.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: I couldn't even remember what it is.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: Now. I'll have to go and see if I can
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: find it worth.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: The point of a comp is time, and I get
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: it because they are tough because inevitably you're comparing him
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: to a guy that everybody knows, and you're like, oh,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: he's like, that's not what they're saying, you know, like
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: wide receiver is comparison is justin Jefferson, whoa they got.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: Just no, like they're just staying there, just size his traits,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't mean he's going to be his
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: productive Yeah, it's an undrafted justice.
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  Speaker 5: It's the hardest part because like you're you're comping that.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 5: It's a stylistic comparison. It's not a career. And so like,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: you know, the one that's been driving me nuts in
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: particular is Brazzle because like the guy that he looks like.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: I said, I would never compare anybody to Randy Moss, right,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 5: But when you watch him play like he's this six
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: foot four long, striding, vertical threat receiver and it's like, okay, well,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 5: like who else is really like that that people would know?
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: You know, but you can't do that.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: Like I saw Denzel Boston, somebody camped him to Puka
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 5: and I'm like, I mean, okay, Like he's just going
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 5: to be the best receiver in football.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: That's a perfect example, you know, because he has sort
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: of size and physicality or whatever. That's why someone's making
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: that compare. That doesn't mean they think he's going to
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: be Pooka, but that's what happens when you do this stuff,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: and when you you know, you do the comparisons, people
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: get excited because you're thinking, oh, you're saying he's the
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: next Pooka.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: No, it's only one of those. He's like a first
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: round Pooka.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, David Main writes him, I mean he's going to
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: be better exactly David Maine. Random question for the panel.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: How many of the players on the team would you
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: say live in New England full time? When I hear
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: about players going home for the summer, it always seemed
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: weird to me. If I had a job that paid
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: a million dollars a year. I think I would move
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: my whole family there full time, even if I had
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: a little job security. Can you name any players that
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: now call Boston home.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: Hunter, Henry Hunter, Henry current current players.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 7: I think Draken and Michael stay up here a lot. Yeah,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 7: David Andrews made this as well. I'm going to say
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 7: tough because in the off season they do a lot
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 7: of training, so it's like you go to Florida or
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 7: Arizona and well also they wanted they spend so much
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 7: time away from their families and stuff.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: But think about it, like if you do have a
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: family and you're in sports, like you may only be
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: there at that team for two years, so do you
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: really want to sell your house buy a new house.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: And the players, like, you know, especially the younger ones,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: they may not be married, so like their family you
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: know is basically their parents or their siblings, so they
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: would want to go, Like they're not going to bring
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: all of them to New England.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: It's it's different for like Morgan Moses signed here last year.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: You know, maybe he brought his whole family and he
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: lives here. You know, I'm just saying as an example,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: like to a friend's point who's been on four or
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: five different teams throughout his career.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: You know, some people move everywhere, you.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: Know, and I know a lot of people like Logan
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: Mankins is another one, like David Andrews who ended up staying.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: He did so because he thought the education system was
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: so good in this area. That's why he had Uh
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: he's and he's not. He's going to go back to
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: California as soon as his youngest kid is done with school.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: I think he has a daughter that's still at a
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: local high school. And I think there's probably different factors
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: like that that come into play too.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, I think it's just family and age related.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: A lot of the young guys think they don't have
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: any roots here there.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: I feel like, twenty three year old kid and you
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: don't have any reason to stay in New England by yourself.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you've got a young wife and you sign
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: here on four years deal and you're gonna start a finishing.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 5: And let's also face it, like they have so much
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 5: money they didn't want to be in this weather like
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 5: and they can go anywhere.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: Let's face it, in New England, like the better players
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: don't usually come from New England. So historically our best
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: players when they were done playing, they were out of
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: here Florida, you know, like Bled, So he was gone
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: and I mean he didn't end here. But they usually
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: don't stick around.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: They go home.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but there's also opportunity here, like for a guy
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: like Scott Solak, who's a career backup.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: And puts down roots and all of a sudden guy
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: and he seems to have, you know, made a home here.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 6: Hoyer kept his kids in school here.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: Will Will Fork stayed here for a long time. Yeah.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: Let's face it, if you do a f you are
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: growing a family. The education here is great, healthcare is
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: here is great, So why not stay?
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 6: That's such like a little little B word.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: Truth.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: But like I had that kind of money, I would
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: have a house on the beach anywhere, Alex, you would
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: stay here.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 6: If I had unlimited money, I would never not have
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 6: at least a house in New England. I think the
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 6: New England coast is just.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: I would agree best. I would agree. I would. I
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: would probably stay here in the summers, yeah, I would.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 6: He can extend that to the fall and the like
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 6: some of the spring to spring, Yeah, I wouldn't leave.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 5: Till November, Paul, like when it's one hundred and two.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: I love spring has just been fantastic, My god, cold,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: thirty two degrees.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 7: I would probably have like a house in San Diego
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 7: and the cape somewhere nice.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 6: I love, maybe a condo and palm beach.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: I wish that I were talking in San Diego. San
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: Diego was always one of my favorite trips.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 6: I love San Diego.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: It also is the site of the famous Fred Kirsh
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: defeating Andy Hart different sports right.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: At the University of Tory Pines Tory Pines.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: That's right, Ethan says along the same lines of cursive.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: I definitely thought I'd spend more time on fire and
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: quicksand talking about useless things learned growing up, remember the
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: dropping how to get out of quicksand how to put
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: yourself I.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: Don't remember anything about quicksand.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: Now I remember being like, very how was how to
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: put yourself out?
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: Well, just in general, like fire prevention, but smoky, that's
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: like something they should be teaching.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: That's relevant.
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  Speaker 4: But I understand what he's saying, though, I spent an
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: inordinate amount of time thinking about quicksand like, what do
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: I do you know.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: I'm just it was on my mind, like Quick.
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  Speaker 5: It's a it's a tough way to go where you
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 5: slowly thinkand no idea.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 6: But it was like this prevailing fear that you're supposed
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 6: to have.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: Many times were a little squirrely guitar pits on.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 5: Like a Star Wars planet, like where are you going
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 5: to find Quick?
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: That's the whole point.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, but it was like something that was
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 4: always talks about is a threat like quicksands out there
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 4: and if you get in, like you gotta spread out
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: and you know you can't try to If you try
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 4: to walk, you're just going to get yourself going in deep.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: Like somebody google where is Quick? What about like teaching
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  Speaker 1: kids about like Jones, it's not impa.
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  Speaker 6: Island coast like.
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  Speaker 4: And said, we're going to talk about quicksand that's the
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: whole point, Evan, it's stupid into it.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: This is more general. You can find quicksand in the marshes,
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: in the bodies. That's the thing about quicksand it's everywhere.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: You just don't know.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 4: United Kingdom, frank Florida, the Carolina, Florida, Australia and speed and.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: Wants to kill you in Australia, So Southeast Florida is
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: the only one that's well any problems to make You've.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: Probably seen it.
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  Speaker 4: Swiss Family Robinson was like one of my favorite Disney
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 4: movies growing up, and there's you know, there's a quicksand
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 4: scene in that they pull a zebra there. So it's
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: just a lot of quicksand growing up not so much anymore,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: not a lot on TikTok a quicksand, for the life.
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  Speaker 5: Of me, can't understand why that would be neither.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: Can I be real? I don't know.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: Adam from Louisiana, says Fred. Your thoughts on the letter
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: W or something I've thought about often. I remember high
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: school Spanish. I learned Spanish for W is double V
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: or double V.
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  Speaker 6: French two dub.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: With some of the French fans.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, I have a seventh grade exploratory level
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 7: of French and I could get by with the Brazilians too.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: No shout out my son.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 4: He was inducted into the uh FREN National and National
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 4: Honor Society Foreign Lanuage.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: For French a couple of nights ago. Wow, awesome, French kid,
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: there is such a thing.
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  Speaker 22: I know.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: I didn't know any job Spanish, Latin and uh yeah
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: and Chinese.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 5: This is Tyson or Campbell?
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: Tyson? Yeah, I just assumed a certificate.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 5: I just called him Tyson Campbell because I forget which
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 5: one is with.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: He's the corner. Yeah.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: Back to the hotline, eight five five past five hundred,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: Matts in Iowa.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: Hey, Matt, Hey, I just did.
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  Speaker 8: A quick thought. So the Patriots don't want to give
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 8: up their twenty twenty seven first round draft pick, right?
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 8: Is there a world where we would potentially draft like
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 8: Denzel Boston and then go and trade him after drafting
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 8: him for a J Brown in some sort of package
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 8: or is that not a possibility?
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 5: If the Eagles wanted Denzel Boston, like what, why wouldn't
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 5: they just take the thirty first pick and pick Denzel Boston.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: Well, if we had a handshake day, they can get
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: two guys they like. No, But I think what Matt
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: is suggesting.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: Matt, correct me if I'm wrong, if I'm mischaracterizing you,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: But I think he's saying if they had to wait
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: till June first, could they make a deal where Philadelphia
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: is like that like they do in the NBA. Philadelphia
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: is actually telling the Patriots who they want them, the
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: Patriots to take a thirty one and then they make
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: the trade in June.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, you know what I mean, because they can't trade
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: now the cat purposes. But can they do that? And
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: I don't don'tifications. I don't know exactly. I think you can.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 5: I mean you could probably, I don't see the I
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 5: guess I don't really see why Philly would want to
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 5: do that.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: But that's just no.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: But if Philly would do the trade for the thirty
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: first pick, yeah, let's let's let's operate under the hypothetical
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: that Philly is interested thirty one for a j Brown.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: Yes, but they can't do it now because of the cap. No,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: But could Philly, you know, potentially say Okay, this is
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: who we want you to pick at thirty one for us,
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: and then we'll make the trade in June.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: This is interesting.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 4: I wonder about Denzel Boston, like what's he going through
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: for the two months the or the month that he has.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: To be here. Well, this is definitely my guess is
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: they would tell them this.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 5: Is definitely not above board, like you can't do that,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 5: like like that, this would be like a but I
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 5: see how it could make sense though. I mean, I
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 5: just think the thirty first pick in the draft, like
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: it's more valuable to Philly to just have the pick
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 5: to do whatever they want with it, whether that is
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 5: to move it draft whoever. Like you know, now you're
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 5: pigeonholing yourself to your draft. You have what you can
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 5: you know, this is the one player.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: One option.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: Oh no, no, Like you wouldn't necessarily tell the Patriots
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: before the draft you're taken, Denzel Boston, You're telling the
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: Patriots we're going to make the pick for you, like
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: when you come up.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely, you know, like it doesn't feel like that
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 5: would be very kosher.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they would have a hard time with
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: something like that. And I did hear, you know, Fred
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: was talking. I think on Tuesday you were talking about
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: Adam Schefter had that little report where he's sort of
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: summarizing everything and it didn't really like I actually heard
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: it that day when I was it doesn't jive at all,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: Like I don't see anything correlating the Patriots and the
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: Eagles having sort of a handshake kind of deal. There's
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: nothing off board about that, Like we got to wait
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: till June because of the cap. Now, if I'm the Patriots,
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: and I've heard Adam Jones and Rich Keith say this
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: a lot, like those are your cap problems, they're not
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: our problems. We're either going to make the trader, We're not, Like,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 3: I don't have to wait till June to do this. Yeah,
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 3: so you you might force their hand, but like, there's
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: nothing and I don't I don't really see anything wrong
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: with that. If if the teams, I mean, what's the
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: difference between that and what all the trades that get
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: agreed upon before the start of.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: The league year? Right right right now, no one calls
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: anybody out for that. Just a rookie cott in the middle,
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: that's all. I don't know. I'm talking about. Thanks, just
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: the regular trade for aj Brown, not this the handshake
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: thing you mean?
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like keeps saying the Patriots wouldn't do that because
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: they've had their issues in the past.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything You don't think there's anything
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: untoor yeah, I.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: Don't think a comparable to like Spygate and you know,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: agreeing to a trade two months before you make it.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to sit here and pretend to know
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 5: all the language of the CBA, but like these types
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 5: of things are are frowned upon, like there's there's no
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 5: this is why there's no pick protections in the NFL,
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 5: like these things, Like I think that there he could
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 5: be saying that jefter is my point because technically that's
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 5: against the rules, And so he was kind of saying like, well,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 5: not the Patriots and Eagles wouldn' ever break the rules.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 10: You know what?
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: But I would just say, what's the difference between that
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: and you know, the Raiders and the Ravens agreeing to
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: the Max Crosby trade a week and a half before
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: the start of the league year.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I did.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: The league doesn't come down on any I mean, you
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: know this, leave me. They come down for the Ravens
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: for pretty much everything else because they're the only team
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 3: in trouble more than the Patriots. The Ravens break all
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: the rules, right, I don't know they oh they've lost
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: draft picks and all kinds of stuff for their OTA violations,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: stuff that kind of stuff that's cheating.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, I'm very consistent. That's I call out other teams.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: I call out our team, Like when you do things wrong,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: you should get punished for him, and he and the
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: Ravens have gotten punished for it more than most.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, Ellen, Wisconsin.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: The reason everyone was scared of Quicksand is because the
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: scene in Indiana Jones and let's face it, everyone wanted
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: to be Indie. Actually, for me, my first introduction of
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: quick in in the movies a long time ago. So
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: this is probably in the sixties. There was a western movie.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: It was a comedy and at one point in the
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: movie all these people going west hit quicksand and like
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: the covered wagons were going down and quicksand and everything.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: I forget the name of the movie. It was a
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: Western comedy about Western settlers.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: And not Blazing Saddles.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: No, it was before Blazing Saddles. Oh, before Blazing Saddles.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: I think it might have been oh.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: Geez, that's oh geez, before blazing said the sixties, Blazing
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: saddles like the seventies.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: Maybe it was Blazing Saddles, not like but was there
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: a scene in Blazing Saddles where they got it caught
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: in quicksand?
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: Could be?
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, maybe that was a good, good, good Alex.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 4: I don't remember the Indiana Quicksand, Thanks gott it I
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 4: pride myself on knowing Raiders the Lost Ark inside and out,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 4: and I don't know that there was.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: Probably be it for you. I don't recall. That's your
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: quick sit your I don't remember quicksand.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: You remember Quicksand in Indiana, Joe, it didn't have to
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: be in that one, didn't say it was, Well, there.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: Is some in the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull according
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: to my Google. Maybe that's what was that shy above.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 4: But that's two thousand and eight that it was like
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 4: that didn't that didn't impact my youth, right, Sam got
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, maybe I'm just misremembering.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: Maybe it was a couple of doom I don't. I
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: mean I saw all three of those.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 5: The first one, the newer one was okay, Like, I mean,
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 5: it was fine. I watched on the plane, like I'm
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 5: not like, I didn't spend real time.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: Now you a big are you a big India guy?
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: I loved Indiana? The first one it was Crystal Skull.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: What the quick sand scene was in Crystal Skull? Yeah, okay,
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: so that didn't impact my my youth. Yeah, this is
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: too old. That was too old.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: Let's see, Brian says, with all the talk of winning
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: with a number one receiver in my football watching starting
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty. Here my off the top of my head,
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: dynasties from that that all had true number one receivers
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: San Francisco, Dallas, Denver, Patriots first and three did not?
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: Patriots second and three did? In Kansas City?
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: Who did Denver have that was a true number one
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: for which team?
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 24: Here is?
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: Well, they only had two Super Bowls. The nineties team
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: was Damarus Thomas. And he's going back to nineteen eighty. No, No,
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: he's going back to the nineties.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: So Rod Smith would have been I was gonna say Sharp, right,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: Shannon Sharp, Shannon Sharp.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: But he was a tight end.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's still a number one guy, especially Hims Davis.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 3: He's talking about the number one I.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 5: Was assuming because he said the second Patriots he did.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 5: I'm assuming he's talking about Gronk. So then maybe he's
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 5: talking about Shannon Sharp with the Broncos.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's fair.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 5: That's totally fair.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: That's not what we're talking We're talking about receivers.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I think you know a guy, I
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: don't care if you're a tight end or receiver. If
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: you have a number one like Travis Kelsey is the
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: number one receiver that was leading the way for Kansas City.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 5: Okay, and coverage matchups, game plans.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 12: Uh.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: Claire says, uh, hello, everybody dominating.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: She says, there's also the horse and never ending story
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: that gets pulled into the quick sand and dies.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: A great call by Claire that that's a good one.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: I never saw that movie.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 5: I have never once in my life been afraid of
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 5: quicksand where this comes.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the club. I'm not no walk. You're watching
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: where you walk? You are always in doors? Look out
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: it's quick sand.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Evan didn't go outside enough.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: Probably fair. He's watching film.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: Yes, working, there's no fear of quicksand while I'm breaking
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 3: down film in my lab.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: It's perfect. It's true. Uh, never ending story. Never saw it.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: I don't think I saw it. If I did, it
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: didn't make an impression on me. Pats in Pennsylvania, what's up, Pat?
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 26: Yeah, never ending story depressing his help anyway. I wanted
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 26: to ask about Zach Kore with last year kind of
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 26: being an interim emergency decordinator. I assume we just were
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 26: bro Williams scheme with Zak now being the named decoordinator.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 26: Are we expecting any major ships, like whether that be
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 26: blitz rate, man's own whatever. I'm sure douce and to
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 26: get into the minutia there, but especially with like key
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 26: contributors like Chase On and Savii and Hawkins all gone now,
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 26: I just don't know if there's like a big shift
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 26: in what we see in twenty six.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think so. I
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: think they would have seen it last year.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 5: Well they did in the playoffs, and I think that's
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 5: the question is, you know, are they going to call
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 5: the defense the way they did as aggressively as they
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 5: did in the playoffs all season or you know, I
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 5: think last year during the regular season, they played a
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 5: lot of bad offenses and bad quarterbacks and they didn't
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 5: really need to go into deep into the bag, you know,
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 5: of tricks. And then we got to the playoffs and
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 5: their blitz rate increased by like fifteen to twenty percent.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 5: Their man coverage rate increased significantly, So, you know, is
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 5: that the defense that they're going to play. I mean,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 5: they were over forty percent blitz rate in their playoff run.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 5: I don't know if that's sustainable. You know, first seventeen
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 5: eighteen games.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 4: You know, you hope you get an edge rusher that
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 4: they can get pressure with four, and they don't, you know,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 4: that they can pull back on that stuff. I mean,
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 4: I think some of it is you know that Landry
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 4: was banged up. You know, you're kind of relying on
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 4: Chase Onto, so some of it personnel circumstantial, I feel.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: Like, but yeah, yeah, we'll see. I mean, I think
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be argressive generally, you know, widely.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 5: Different between the regular season and the playoffs. But I
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 5: don't know if that is just circumstantial. It's a small
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 5: sample size in the playoffs. Obviously you're playing better teams,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 5: you know, all that kind of stuff.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: But I mean, kind of crappy quarterbacks too in the
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: playoffs that they were lighting up. You know, the one
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: good quarterback had no protection at all.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 5: Right, Well, Darnold's pretty good.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 4: There are a couple of times though in that game
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 4: in the super Bowl, and like that's a zero blits
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 4: coming right now, you can't just see it coming and there.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that you know, Rabel said it the
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 5: combine that he wants to hear new ideas and you know,
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 5: that's what he's the onus he's putting on the coaches
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 5: is to come with fresh ideas and new things. And
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 5: you know, I think a lot of us have talked about,
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 5: you know, dime defense and playing with more six defensive
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 5: backs on the field is potentially something they could do
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 5: a little bit more of compared to what they did
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 5: last year.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: What comes first, the personnel or the ideas.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 5: It's a good question, I would say when it comes
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 5: to things like, you know, actual personnel groupings like dime.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 5: Like if you're gonna run dime, you have to have
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 5: certain players that fit into those roles. You know, you
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 5: can't just run a big nickel or big dime package
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 5: without like a nicknam and Worry type that can, you know,
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 5: do some of the things that bigger safeties do. So
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 5: probably in that case they would have to draft somebody
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 5: or identify somebody that could do some of those different
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 5: things like playing over the slot or in the box
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 5: and that kind of stuff.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: I'd imagine sometimes, you know, you get a guy that
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: it's like, now we can do this right, And.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: That's why the draft could be interesting.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 4: With some of the safeties, you know, or even some
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 4: of the linebackers like we talked about today that you
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 4: know they draft a certain guy.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: You're like, well, that's a little bit outside of the box,
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: like this might signal something different becoming. They really did.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 5: They cooked up pass rush last year, you know, especially
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 5: down the stretch with Blitzeres and line games and you know,
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 5: all sorts of different things and uh maybe deuces right
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 5: that they did that out of necessity because they didn't
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 5: really have like a true sack artist that could you know,
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 5: clean up sacks. But they they were pretty Uh I think.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 4: That's stay aggressive. I mean, I just think you might
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 4: want to pull back on the blitzer right a little bit.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, in a perfect world, I think that's we
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 4: saw with Seattle. You know, that's the ideal situation.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: But you're here's a little trivia.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna name a type of position and you tell
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: me the Patriot that from your your recollection you associate
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: it with.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: I'll try Ginnis, right, Big Nickel, Victor Green.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: Victor I think you're gonna say to Bucky Jones.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 3: No, No, he was a regular starter when they went
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 3: three safeties in the Big Nickel. It was Victor Green
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 3: in O two.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, good, that's all. I didn't, by the way, didn't work.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: It did not work.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 5: My big nickel lawyer.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: I talked a lawyer about that a lot. Pat Chung.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 5: Patcha yeah, because they put harmon on the field and
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 5: they have mccordy and Harmon playing over the top and
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 5: Pap Chung would be playing down by the line.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: Uh jacket and abba. My introduction to quicksand was a
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: scene in Lawrence of Arabia in which one of Sir
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: Lawrence's companions stepped into quicksand unexpectedly as he was running
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: down a sand dune in the Iraq desert. It's a
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: terrifying scene.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 4: You can get a lot of quicksand walking about.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh it's so true. I mean, it's just like
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: you're saying it. I'm like, God, that's way too much.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: You'll be the one you talk five hours of sleep tonight,
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: bro things living rent free.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 5: In my head, I'm like, quicksand was there from my
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 5: uns that were just like higher risk that you could
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 5: have been worried.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 22: I know.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: That's what's crazy about it. Especially living in this area.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 4: It was like kidnapping too, like that mine In the
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 4: eighties as a kid, everyone was terrified at kidnapping.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 21: Now.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: I was like, now, they don't care kidnapping.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 6: I think I had a dream a nightmare last night.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 7: My recurring nightmare is that I'm getting chased to be
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 7: kidnapped or I'm already kidnapped and I can't escape.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 6: You guys don't have to worry about this as much,
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 6: like there's nothing I could really do.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: No, I never had I never had that growing up.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 4: I never wanted a moment, especially with what was the
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 4: guy who did? Uh John his son got kidnapped and
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 4: he did a Fox show that's like John Walsh.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: Adam Walsh was his son, and they made a movie
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: Adam about him. Like, I don't know. That was very
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: much like just kidnappings in the eighties was a.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 7: Big Elizabeth Smart Girl went Missing. Oh yeah, that was
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 7: like core memory for me.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah she started. Yeah, it's really good. I watched it
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 6: pretty recently.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 5: I was like, I sometimes when I was a kid,
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 5: I get worried somebody can break into our house, like
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 5: in the middle of the night or something, but never
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 5: that I was going to get kidnapped.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 7: Well, my stepmom's best friend is Molly Bush's older sister.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: Oh remember that story.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 6: That was just so close to home from me that
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 6: I don't know and Elizabeth Smart.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: That's much more understandable if it was like it's a
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: kid though, Evan, didn't you fantasize about NFL films breaking
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: into your house and kidnapped.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: Analytics?
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 3: That wasn't atas No, we need you to log the
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 3: entire nineteen eighty eight season.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: No, we're just no. Yeah I did.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 6: That's a dream.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 5: I was never worried about like them taking me, Yeah,
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 5: but I was always worried about people breaking into the house.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 4: Jason Voorhees too, scared of him, had had it, had
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 4: had a little knife that I slept under my pillow
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 4: with because I was like my room was in the basement,
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 4: had a knight.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you getting into it with? Jason? I
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: had it in your mind? It I hadn't No, it
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: was it was a dull knife, but it looked cool.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: But I had like a dream.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 4: I have very vivid dream and like I used to
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 4: like my friend was obsessed with horror movies and like
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 4: and I would like make my little sister watch them
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 4: with me. So she's like I'm like ten, she's like
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 4: seven and watching Friday Thirteenth Part four, which is the
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 4: best one.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: By the way. But I had a dream that like
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: Jason coming into my room like to machete me, and
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: so it was in my head, so you know, it
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: been good, Like I don't know, man, I don't tell me.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: I do remember the original Friday the thirteenth.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 3: I watched it in the middle of the day, three
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 3: houses down from my house, Richie Rocco's house, in case
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 3: you're wondering, like, and it gets madly Richie rocos house.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 3: Greg Batto there too, and so we watched it and.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: It freaked me.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 3: It freaked me out so much. When I left and
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 3: I literally it's the same street and it's like three
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 3: houses down. I sprint it as fast as I possibly
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 3: broad daylight, middle of the day, maybe four houses.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: Because that one's Missus Vorhees, Missus Vorhees's.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 3: When he jumps out of the water at the end,
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 3: I lost my ever loving poop.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: You think she's safe, she's floating down the river in
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: a canoe. And I did not see it. And this
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: was like the talk. You never saw many of the
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: Friday the thirteenth, So this is nowadays.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 3: Everybody would know that was coming, like because you know
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 3: on you know, the Internet, and there will be spoilers
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 3: and all kinds of stuff. None of us had any idea,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 3: no one had seen it, no one had heard about it.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 5: I just don't really understand why you would purposely watch
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 5: a movie to scare yourself.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: Do that and then put all the lights on in
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: the house.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 6: Why you are so bad too.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 5: It's like it just doesn't do it for me. And
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 5: it's not because like I just don't that feeling of
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 5: being scared while watching something. It just doesn't like, Yeah,
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 5: it's not my I think.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: I think, I think there's something to that.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 4: I have friends who obsessed with it. I mean, I
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 4: have a friend who's like a horror movie direct. We
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 4: have a guy that we work with who's obsessed with that.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: Tom Tom, Yeah that was a good one. Yeah. Well,
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: my son's like he's dabbling right now. He's interested.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 4: And I was like, and they're watching like the modern
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 4: horror movies, and I'm like, go watch the original Texas
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 4: Chainsaw Horror.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: Well, I remember that was.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: The most disturbing movie you've ever watched. Disturbing, disturbing.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: Think about that one for a second. I don't know, Well,
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: it depends on what you.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: Like something that made you like queasy and stayed with
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: you afterwards.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 6: Amityville Horror maybe like.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 5: The first paranormal activity.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that one was so the way it was shot
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 6: and all that was like when I was.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 5: Growing up, that was like it was very very popular
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 5: and they made like, yeah the first one though, you
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 5: had to see it. Everybody in school was seeing it,
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 5: Like you had to see it, and it was it
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 5: was really good.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: No, my friend who's a horror director, he showed me
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: that one night.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 4: He had like he'd gotten a copy of it, and
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 4: we watched it and I remember driving home still being
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 4: freaked out.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was a good one. Blair Witch Project
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: that that was pretty good like that. I think that
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: was absolutely awful. Yeah, I watched that. It's like, what's
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: the buzz about? I didn't get it.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so like people were trying to make
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 3: it out to be that it was real and it
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 3: was just so Yeah. I thought it was very corny. Yeah,
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 3: and I'm scared of everything, like I like, and it's
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 3: probably because of this. It's probably based you know, watching
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: that movie and it freaked out about it. I don't
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 3: like I don't like horror movies. I don't like intentions.
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  Speaker 5: Which one is the one with Michael Myers Halloween.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that one's that's pretty good. I mean that's not
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: even that gory like the first one. Slasher movies.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: So two movies that really affected me, I think more
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: psychologically than anything else was Sin City, remember the original
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: Sin City with Bruce Willis, And yeah, I didn't see it,
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: but some moments in that that were just disturbing I
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: thought interesting.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: And then Silence of the Lambs. Yeah, you know, so
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: I was going to bring this up.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 4: I saw there's a movie called Red Dragon, which was
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 4: another book by Thomas Harris in that series and same
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 4: thing with Paul. I watched with my friend and Frank French,
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 4: and we watched it and he was like, and he
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 4: lived across the street, and say, well, you just watch
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 4: while I run home, because he wanted me to make
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 4: sure while he ran across.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: Red Dragon is really scared. MS didn't do that.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 5: Like Signs to the Lambs to me, is more like
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 5: a thriller than it is, like, yeah, psychological, like I
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 5: was when I watched that for the first time. I
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 5: wasn't like afraid of my own shadow for a week,
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 5: like because it's like more of like a twisted thriller
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 5: type of movie than it is like a boo he.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 6: Wouldn't be trying to turn you into a skin suit.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, like they were like I wasn't worried that.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 5: I don't care, Buffalo Bill was gonna come get.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: So there's this movie that it was a French movie
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: called Frontiers and it starts out like zombie invasion and
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: these group of teenagers are running away from the zombies
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: and they find you know, refuse, not refuse, but refuge
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: refuge in this house. But it turns out it's a
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: bunch of neo Nazi cannibals.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: That's all so really disturbing. Problems just keep getting worse, which.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 3: Brings me to the most disturbing movie I've ever seen,
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: what Deliverance Delivery Oh oh yeah, also.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: Like pall like Extorcist like movies.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 5: At the time, No, I mean that was like those
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 5: when you started involving like religion and stuff like that,
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 5: and then the Exorcist was really yeah, you get like
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 5: the things going.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, thanks, scary movies. Tell Tom to listen
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: in good stuff. He probably laughs, oh yeah, he finds
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: them all very I.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 5: Don't understand people laugh at them like that also like
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 5: makes me worried for you, like there's.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: Something wrong with you beating cats? Yeah, yeah, Like I know,
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: my my friend Adam Green's made a whole career of it.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 4: He made a movie called Hatchet, and he made it
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 4: Hatchet Too, which was totally an homage to eighty Slasher,
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 4: someone that he loved. And that's like that friend group
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 4: is why I got sucked into like watching all the
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 4: Friday the thirteenths and you know, all the Halloweens and.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: All that stuff.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 2: So sorry for you. The chainsaw a scene in Scarface
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: was pretty that was bad.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: I actually immediately thought of that when you said something
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: that made you queasy? Yeah, you know, yeah that that
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: scene was bad.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: Yep, John and Wilbraham says talking about taking a left
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: turn with the signing of Gilliam, that obviously moves Lampey
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: to the backup full back role and what they need
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: at tight end.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: Can Lampy help fill that need? No?
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 5: I think those guys are you know, Lampy is like
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 5: might built like a bowling ball. You know, he doesn't
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 5: have like the length and the height and the sheer
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 5: kind of just size to play tight end, different types
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 5: of body.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 4: Tough for him, toughier to get injured. I mean he
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 4: might really had an opportunity last year going to the back.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, he No, he did. That was so I
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: was wondering when they got Gilliam, what happens with him? Yeah, well,
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: I mean I think the bigger question is west Over.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: You know, he well played that position. Is west Over
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: potentially one of those? But I don't know, if you know,
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: I would think that they're looking top grade.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 5: I think that they just kind of saw an opportunity
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 5: with a lot of really good veteran full backs available
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 5: in free agency for card and the Guy and the Chargers.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 5: Now I'm blanking on his name. I think they just
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 5: just saw a good opportunity to like really solidify that position.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: I actually just wrote about it.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: Full more Quicksand emails Mike and Boca Rattan. As an
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: old person, my first encounter of Quicksand was an old
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: black and white Western in the early sixties. The Rifleman
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: starring Boss the Celtic Chuck Connors got trapped in Quicksand.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: My memory was he got left there at the end
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: of the show and didn't escape until the following week's show,
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah coming back sandhanger, Yeah, Robin writes in Greeting from
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: Southern Utah. We actually had a quicksand warning not too
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: far from here at Lake Powell.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 24: Uh.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: Too bad.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: I never learned about quicksand safety during my time in
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: New England schools.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 3: I think it was like it was only the spread
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 3: upper crust suburbans, right. Yeah, you know, I ever didn't
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 3: waste any time.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: That the heart scrabbled streets of of every He.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 3: Had no sand, so there was no need to worry
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 3: about quicksand it was all concrete, right.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 4: It was also in that game Pitfall, remember that that
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 4: was like one of the first You had to go
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 4: over the quicksands everywhere.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: Everyone used to have to jump over the logs, but
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: you could go through them, but you would lose points.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 3: My brother would pretend he was Earl Campbell would just
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 3: run through the that's glogs.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: Speaking of movies, Ethan says Mysterious Skin is in the
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: same category as Deliverance.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: Jeez, I mean it sounds like to stay away from
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: those titles.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 27: Yeah, so I never saw Deliverance like the full movie,
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 27: but you know what it is, Oh, I saw the
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 27: parts yeah, like Burt Reynolds on display.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: I mean he's like, look, I can't even to look
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: at you got to watch it. Yeah, kick some ass
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: in that movie.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's the thing when like that came out
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: when I was a kid. You heard about the ned
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: baby part, but what you got, what they didn't talk
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: about is like he comes back and lays.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 25: Waist all yeah, you know he gets well spoiler, I
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 25: think it's been long.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: You haven't seen it by now.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 4: That kid in the beginning that plays like the Little
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 4: Mandolin or whatever, he's missing a couple of chromosomes.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: Yea if I correct me if I'm wrong, But that
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: kid was real, Like he's not an actor. He really
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: does play the bad job.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: You look like Jason at the end of I wonder
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: how he found about that. They don't know better.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 6: You look so asked up that we're gonna.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: I don't care painting play.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: I mean there's still people up in the appellations a lot.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, sure, Like how do you sell that
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 3: we're looking at a uh, you know, unattractive, overweight woman
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 3: for this role.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: We think you'd be perfect, Like, how do you sell that?
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 5: We probably don't tell them that part of it.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: I think it's kind of.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 6: Well, if that's your to be an actor, yep, dude.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 5: You got to do yeah, get out of that being
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 5: play the role uber driver bartenders want to be typecast.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard thing. We'll being an actor.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 4: You can be a great actor, but until you're like
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 4: if they're looking for a fat woman like you're a
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 4: skinny dude, you're not going to get the part.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 20: You know.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: It's it's tough write a great script. It's a great
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: script no matter what. But endeavors creative endeavors.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: Let's see Mike in Middletown, Middletown, Connecticut, went down a
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: bit of a rabbit hole and IMDb the other day
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: and came across an unexpected piece of Patriots trivia. Maybe
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: it's common knowledge for the crew, but if not, this
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 2: might be a good one.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: Here goes.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: Henry Thomas played Elliott in eighty two's e T the Extraterrestrial.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: Did you know that? Yeah?
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 21: Uh?
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: It was his third acting role. His second was as
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: the Kid in the TV movie based on the classic
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: Mean Joe Green Coca Cola commercial, Thanks Me, the Steeler
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: and the Pittsburgh Kid. What Patriot legend.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: Co starred Patriot Legend co starred in what.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 9: In that?
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: In the Steeler in the Pittsburgh Kid. I did not
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: know that what Patriot Legend co starred in that. I
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: did not know there was a commercial? Was co star cameo?
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: But was in it? I don't know. I would never
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: have known this. Dante Scarnekia was the coach. Really, I
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: did not know that and I've never seen it.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 3: So now the next time we see Dante, that will
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 3: be brought up.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: Send actor Alex, send Mike Duffy a T shirt for that.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: Where is he? Hey? He got it? He got the email.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: It came in on Wednesday, real quick.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 4: Speaking of trivia, last night, we were at our at
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 4: our drinks and some trivia came up on the screen
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 4: and it was who was the only person to play
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 4: assistant coach and head coach in a Super Bowl? And
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 4: so we're watching it narrow down and the things that
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 4: Bill Belichick.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: Belichick never played. He's yelling, I know it was wrong.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it was was the answer? Yeah,
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: who was the assistant coach?
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 21: Though?
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 3: That's I didn't think he was an assistant in Dallas
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 3: for some of those teams that went to the super Bowl.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 3: Obviously he played in the Super Bowl and then he
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 3: coached the Bears. But Belichick never played. I mean that's fact, right,
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 3: he played in college. Yeah, but that's not what you know.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: This is assuming.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 5: A lot of people always say, like, you know, all
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 5: these like big timers that are like, like, you didn't
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 5: play in the league. I was like, neither did Bill Belichick. Dude,
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 5: like the greatest coach of all time, Mike McDaniel play
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 5: on a much higher level than Bill Belichick.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: Playing at Yale.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 5: You're trying to like act like you know, like you
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 5: could only know if you if you played.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 4: And it's like again, I go back to like a
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 4: lot of players, they have no idea about the playbook.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: They know what they have to do and they that's it.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: Story he told me, never ask a football player about football.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: They only know what they have to do. Well, there's
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: a big you know.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 5: Dan Orlovsky has gotten himself into into some messages lately
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 5: about Ty Simpson.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: And this is like he says he's the best quarterback.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, better than Mendoza.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 5: And I've noticed this trend with like the former quarterbacks
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 5: that like the fundamentally sound like pro ready polished quarterback
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 5: that comes out in the draft, they all like swoon
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 5: over because they look at it through the prism of
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 5: like a quarterbacks coach, like how much work does this
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 5: kid need to get to level? Whereas like draft people
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 5: look at the two and look at the ceiling of
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 5: the player and all that kind of stuff. And this
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 5: is why, like when Drake was coming out, did a
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 5: lot of these like quarterback gurus like we're really low
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 5: on him. Is because his footwork and this that the
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 5: other thing, And for some reason they make the same
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 5: mistake every every draft season.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 2: Ted in Vegas, lets us know that on Chuck Connor's
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: tombstone there's a Celtics logo.
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, didn't know that win last night.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: Cameron Dallas Paul on Tuesday, you mentioned how Kobe would
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: be a better athlete if he played soccer. I don't
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: know if that's what you said. I said he'd be
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 2: a great soccer player. Kobe did play soccer, that's what
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 2: he's saying.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 3: Great with those if they wanted to like specialize in soccer,
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 3: these are some of the greatest athletes on the planet.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 5: I don't think we talked about Kobe because I would
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 5: Kobe lived in Italy, his father was lived in Italy
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 5: for a while.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: His dad played overseas.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know who this person is, laughton Ibrahimovic on
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 2: Ibrahimovitch even said.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: It costs too much for kids to play in the US.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, there's a lot of time played in the
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 5: MLS for a little bit while with the Galaxy, I
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 5: want to say, and then yeah, obviously, great European player.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: And then he wants to know if anyone's going to
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: be watching Brazil and France, who are raked fifth and
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: third in the world respectively.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 5: I know the answer to my left is no, but
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 5: it's the answer to my right, yes, no, I'll probably
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 5: watch the Red Sox.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, there's no way you're watching it. I
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: knew you wouldn't watch it.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 6: Gotten tickets. I would have gone, like, if we had.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 5: I would like to go to one of the World
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 5: Cup games. But you know, the tickets are twelve million dollars. Yeah,
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 5: good luck.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: But all right, well let's can't before anybody wants to ask.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 2: All right, that's going to be it for this edition
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 2: of free Form Patriots Unfiltered.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: It's a good week. Yeah, just.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: You know, have a good weekend, enjoy yourself, but just
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 2: be careful of the quicksand all right, just be just
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 2: be aware of while you're walking.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: I don't want anyone for quick sand of the pitfalls.
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 5: Draft that thing going on this weekend. The Duce and
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 5: I are going to be on the draft preview party.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 5: If you're coming, you're older, we'll see you there.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 2: Damien Harris, Okay, who else is going to be there?
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: Damian Harris, Brian Hoyer, Jenny Dus and Jenny Jenny Dell hosting.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: Why did you have a creepy lip in your face
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: when you said, Jenny? Why? Why is that? Mike So?
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: Who are the draft experts? What do you all right
• 1:58:29
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