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Brandan Schieppati: Bleeding Through | Furnace Fest 2024 Series · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

• 0:30
  Speaker 1: Today, we've got Brandon from Bleeding Through. Bleeding Through is
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  Speaker 1: one of those brand, I mean, one of those bands
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  Speaker 1: that is just like so so important for so many people.
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: What a legendary band. So obviously Brandon will want to
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about Bleeding Through. But before
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: we get into all of that, how you doing today?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing well. I can't complain, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: I get to do what I love every day, and
• 0:52
  Speaker 3: that's come to the gym and work out with people,
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  Speaker 3: and yeah, training people will help people.
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  Speaker 2: I still get to do my band. I do what
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  Speaker 2: I want to do.
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  Speaker 4: You're looking well, you're looking all you know? I Uh,
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  Speaker 4: I knew Johnny Sins had a lot of jobs, but
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  Speaker 4: I did not know that the lead singer for or
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  Speaker 4: the lead vocalist for Bleeding Through was one of them.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, jesus, how many times have you heard that before?
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  Speaker 2: Uh? You know what?
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  Speaker 3: Recently kind of a lot. It's kind of funny because
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  Speaker 3: like him and I have met each other before, but like,
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  Speaker 3: oh really he would like know that. It's like we
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  Speaker 3: met with mutual friends. It's kind of weird. But lately,
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  Speaker 3: like people are like, yeah, do you like you know,
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  Speaker 3: like people you know people don't want to bring it
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  Speaker 3: up right right right, I don't watch porn.
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  Speaker 1: We all.
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  Speaker 3: We all know the dudes names too, man, like we
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  Speaker 3: know it right, Like, so yeah, it's it's kind of funny.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny.
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  Speaker 1: What's it like to meet another guy? Uh that? Like
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  Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, I've seen your dick. That's gonna be.
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  Speaker 2: Oh it's good ice breaker.
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  Speaker 5: Breaks of ice, And I can tell you that much.
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  Speaker 2: Before. You don't shake their hand, to shake their.
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  Speaker 1: Love it, I mean I meant to shake your other hand. O,
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  Speaker 1: my got your third leg.
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  Speaker 2: This is how this is great?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, welcome to the Black Sheep Podcast. This
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  Speaker 1: is what we do, all.
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  Speaker 3: Right, go on, this could take us down a weird
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  Speaker 3: rabbit hole, man, and.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think we want to go there.
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  Speaker 1: There we go. Right, Well, let's let's talk about bleeding through.
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  Speaker 1: Uh so yeah, even maybe before bleeding through, Like how
• 2:55
  Speaker 1: did you get into music? Like what inspired you to
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: like maybe you want to scream in a band one day?
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  Speaker 1: Because you know, everybody when they're seven years old, like
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: when they're asked by their teacher, what do you want
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  Speaker 1: to do in life? I'm sure you were thinking, like
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  Speaker 1: I want to be in a metalcore band. But at
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  Speaker 1: some point that must have been the dream, right, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Like when I was like a.
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  Speaker 3: Kid, like I remember, like, you know, I liked AllMusic.
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  Speaker 3: What I was really into was like kind of like
• 3:22
  Speaker 3: R and B, like hip hop like eighties, and but
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  Speaker 3: I also had like an older brother that was like
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  Speaker 3: a total fucking hesher right and like you know, long hair,
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  Speaker 3: leather jackets, listening to fucking like like Slayer and Metallica
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  Speaker 3: and like Azsie like that world, right, But in my world,
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  Speaker 3: it was like we were like listening to like Bobby
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  Speaker 3: Brown and shit, like for real, like that that's like
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  Speaker 3: kind of like that. And then it was kind of funny,
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  Speaker 3: like I remember just like one birthday, my brother getting
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  Speaker 3: me a couple tapes, and I think it was like, honestly,
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  Speaker 3: like my tenth birthday, me a couple of tapes right
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  Speaker 3: from my birthday, and it had like Metallica on there,
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  Speaker 3: and it had like even stuff like led Zeppelin and
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  Speaker 3: stuff like that, where I'm like, this is cooler than
• 4:13
  Speaker 3: the other stuff, Like I kind of like this, And
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  Speaker 3: so I kept asking my brother when I was like younger,
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  Speaker 3: to like burn me tapes and like stuff like that,
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  Speaker 3: like or make me burn you can't burn tape. You
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  Speaker 3: can burn tapes, you can't.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of Christian moms did a lot of.
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  Speaker 4: That, probably a lot of bleeding through tapes.
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  Speaker 2: Dude.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So he would make me tapes and like when
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  Speaker 3: I was a kid, and it's kind of funny because
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  Speaker 3: like it was like a bunch of Ausy Slayer, Metallica,
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  Speaker 3: Mega Death, like all that stuff, right, and I'm just
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  Speaker 3: fucking super into it. And then because of that, I
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  Speaker 3: wanted more. And then I would like sneak into his
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  Speaker 3: room and like go into his tape area and like
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  Speaker 3: we had all those like tapes and stuff, and then
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  Speaker 3: see the other tapes like from like bands like you know,
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  Speaker 3: from Choice and like Minor Rat and like.
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  Speaker 2: Punk shit, and I'm like, what's this? I like that name.
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  Speaker 3: I remember looking at the cover of you know, from Choice.
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  Speaker 3: Uh fuck, I can't remember the name of the record,
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  Speaker 3: but it was like the dude with like an X
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  Speaker 3: on his hands singing, and I'm like ask my brother.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like what is this? And he's like, oh, that
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  Speaker 2: means like straight Edge.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like ten years old and I'm like graight edge,
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  Speaker 3: Like what is straight edge? He's like it's like you
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  Speaker 3: don't do drugs, you don't like drink, and you don't fuck.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm just like so it's like a straight edge
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  Speaker 1: is just being a ten year old.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Like that's basically what I do now.
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  Speaker 3: So like basically, like like so when I was like ten,
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  Speaker 3: that was my first like introduction in a straight edge,
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  Speaker 3: and I loved Uniform Choice. That was like, my shit,
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  Speaker 3: They're from Orange County. They went to local high schools.
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  Speaker 3: Like it was fucking rat. I'm friends with the Dubar
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  Speaker 3: family still like that. That that is like Orange County,
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  Speaker 3: It's fucking awesome. But I remember getting into that shit,
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  Speaker 3: and that's what kind of made me like kind of
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  Speaker 3: like get into bands like faster bands like like all Right.
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  Speaker 2: And stuff like that. I thrashed.
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  Speaker 3: I was really into like thrash metal, like fucking Exodus
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  Speaker 3: and violence and shit like that.
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  Speaker 2: Like that was like my shit.
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  Speaker 3: And from there I kind of like got into like
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  Speaker 3: a thrash your side and kind of went into like
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  Speaker 3: punk and then it was like it was like Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I like Slayer and I like Pantera a lot. And
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  Speaker 3: then I heard a band called Integrity from Cleveland, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm like this is like I went and saw a
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  Speaker 3: show of There was when I was twelve years old, okay,
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  Speaker 3: and I had older friends that used to just take
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  Speaker 3: me to shows with them. And I was twelve years
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  Speaker 3: old and they played a show and I was standing
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  Speaker 3: on the side like taking photos.
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  Speaker 2: I still have these photos, and I remember like them walking.
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  Speaker 3: On stage and it was like, here's this dude that
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  Speaker 3: was like in good shape with tattoos and back. Fucking
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  Speaker 3: Back in ninety two, man, dudes didn't have tattoos. Now
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  Speaker 3: it's like TODs were like if you don't have a tattoo,
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  Speaker 3: it's like you're fucking awesome, right, So this dude was
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  Speaker 3: tattoos and it scared me and I'm like this is
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  Speaker 3: like this is like Pantera and Slayer like together, like
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  Speaker 3: but raw moment. It just grabbed me so much, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, this band is changing my life. And I
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  Speaker 3: knew when I was twelve years old, I'm like watching
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  Speaker 3: this right now.
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  Speaker 2: This is changing my fucking life.
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  Speaker 3: And so I became a that was like my I
• 7:29
  Speaker 3: listened to hardcore before, but that was like, my I'm
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  Speaker 3: in hardcore now, this is like shit. And then it
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  Speaker 3: was like locally starting to discover I'd go to like
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  Speaker 3: every fucking show I possibly could.
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  Speaker 2: When I was like seeing bands like Strife.
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  Speaker 3: And Ignite and like all these fucking epic bands, seeing
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  Speaker 3: all these tours Earth Crisis Undertow fucking just it was
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  Speaker 3: so fucking rap. But that first Integrity show like that
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  Speaker 3: that changed me. That made it was so humanizing to
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  Speaker 3: see a band that raw and that and that aggressive
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  Speaker 3: and that powerful when I'm like standing fucking six feet
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  Speaker 3: away from their guitar player taking pictures, you know, Like
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, this is crazy that this type of music
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  Speaker 3: can be played, but it doesn't have to be in
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  Speaker 3: a fucking arena or whatever. It can be in this
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  Speaker 3: shithole fucking venue. And I'm like, I want to play
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  Speaker 3: shithole venues, Like this is what I want to I.
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  Speaker 1: Just knew right shooting for the Stars, dude.
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  Speaker 3: I'm all this is speaking to me in some way,
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  Speaker 3: shape or form. And it was like right after that,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, like I want to play music, and
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  Speaker 3: if I did it, like that's what I knew I wanted.
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  Speaker 3: It was about twelve, and I tried to like kind
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  Speaker 3: of cheat it because in high school I was a
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  Speaker 3: good athlete. I had offers to go play college college baseball, football,
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  Speaker 3: like just everything. And it's just as soon as I
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  Speaker 3: started like really realizing it, what really made it happen.
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  Speaker 3: I started playing guitar for eighteen Visions. And this was
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  Speaker 3: like my junior.
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  Speaker 2: Year of high school, so I was about sixteen years old.
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  Speaker 3: And and once I started playing a couple of shows
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  Speaker 3: with eighteen Visions, I was just like, yeah, sports, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: like over it fucking done. Just didn't play any sports
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  Speaker 3: my senior year. And it was because on weekends, eighteen
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  Speaker 3: Visions is playing shows shit like that, right right, and
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  Speaker 3: like that's just kind of what I need.
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  Speaker 4: So Mason and I are from the very heart of
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  Speaker 4: the Midwest. We're from South Dakota, so we did not
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  Speaker 4: grow up around any kind of real strong scene. I
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  Speaker 4: have to imagine that Southern California was just a magical
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  Speaker 4: place at this time for a kid like you who
• 9:38
  Speaker 4: exposed to all this stuff. Can you kind of just
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  Speaker 4: like give us the fantasy world that lives in my
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  Speaker 4: mind of what it actually was.
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 3: Ready, Yeah, So Southern California back in the day, like
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  Speaker 3: we're talking like late eighties and early nineties, was very
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  Speaker 3: isolated from the of like the world.
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  Speaker 2: You couldn't.
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  Speaker 3: Now you could play. You could to drive out to
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  Speaker 3: the East Coast, you could play. You could play fucking
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  Speaker 3: a month of shows just going to the East Coast
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  Speaker 3: in different cities, multiple cities to play in every state.
• 10:14
  Speaker 3: Back then, you couldn't Las Vegas. You can play shows
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  Speaker 3: Las Vegas. Those are ever play. I remember I remember
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  Speaker 3: Denver not even really being able to do shows at
• 10:23
  Speaker 3: the scale, at a scale where any band would try
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  Speaker 3: to come there. That was like an underground hardcore band, right.
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  Speaker 3: It was very limited. It was like we're playing churches
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  Speaker 3: and halls and like just the most r libraries. Like
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  Speaker 3: how many fucking random shows in South Dakota have you
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  Speaker 3: seen in the most random spots?
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  Speaker 5: It's all of them a random spots.
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, like that's where shows were here.
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  Speaker 3: And I think because like we would get touring bands,
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  Speaker 3: but it would be like few and far between. They'd
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: have to be like pretty big bands, and they would
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: always be like, oh man, we drove like thirty six
• 10:54
  Speaker 3: hours to get here. So the scene here had to
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: grow within itself, and there was just we had a
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: huge Christian hardcore scene in the early nineties. It was
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: like unashamed focused. Yeah, the fucking great great great grandfathers
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  Speaker 3: of like Christian hardcore, right, And it's like that was
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  Speaker 3: so big, And those are some of the first shows
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  Speaker 3: I started going to because I could tell my mom, oh,
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  Speaker 3: it's okay, it's at a fucking church. And it was
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: like crazy fucking people, like you know what I mean. Like,
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: but I got away with it. And then so I thought,
• 11:35
  Speaker 3: like all these shows were I couldn't even believe it.
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: I didn't know there was separate and then all of
• 11:39
  Speaker 3: a sudden, you're like going to these other shows, and
• 11:41
  Speaker 3: these other shows are massive too, and then you're going
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: to like these like crustier shows, and those shows are massive,
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, wait, so there's like genres for all
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: of this shit here. And I could honestly say the
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: first place that I feel like genres, like secular genres
• 11:59
  Speaker 3: started like forming was in southern California. It was the
• 12:03
  Speaker 3: first time I heard like grindcore, like even death Gore.
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  Speaker 2: Back in the day.
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  Speaker 3: There was bands from here that we're like, oh, that's
• 12:09
  Speaker 3: like a death core band, and like before death Gore
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  Speaker 3: even was like a fucking thing, and it was like but.
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  Speaker 2: It was every show was so big, like.
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  Speaker 3: It was weird, Like when I went to a small
• 12:20
  Speaker 3: sean like this is weird words everybody, I just expected
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  Speaker 3: like hundreds of people because we all just supported. So
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: I could honestly say, like the support here and it
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  Speaker 3: still lives on. Everybody's favorite show is Southern California. You
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: could fucking ask one hundred bands. Ninety percent of them
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: are gonna say, uh, probably like chain reaction or like
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  Speaker 3: it's probably.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm sure, where's your favorite place?
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  Speaker 3: Playing like Orange County fucking goes off like it's just
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: it's fucking automatic because it's like we had to get
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: behind each other. And then it just turned into this
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: thing with like it really started with like like Strife
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  Speaker 3: was like a big and Ignite were big bonding bands.
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: There were big bands in the area. And then it
• 13:05
  Speaker 3: kind of like when those bands decided to kind of
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: tour more and not play so much locally, there wasn't
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: like a there was like a void and even like
• 13:13
  Speaker 3: the earlier stages of eighteen Vision shows got smaller, and
• 13:15
  Speaker 3: then Adamantium started and Adamantium like kind of brought it
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  Speaker 3: a little bit more like cool, and then throw it
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  Speaker 3: Out happened and it was just like boom, hardcore is back,
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: like hardcore is like a fucking thing, like hardcore is
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  Speaker 3: like kids at high school was wear hardcore shirts now
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: because of Throwdown again, you know what I mean? And
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: like I did, but Throwtown made it like cool, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And I'll say this the day I died, Like throwdown
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  Speaker 3: is like what kind of saved that sort of like
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: heavy hardcore scene and like punk scene in southern California.
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  Speaker 3: It really made it more unified again like throw Down
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  Speaker 3: dance scene. It made gig people a reason to want
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  Speaker 3: to go, you know what I mean. Like it was
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: awesome and then it kind of hit another lull and
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: then that spawned like a tray you of Inge seven
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  Speaker 3: foo bleeding through fucking us, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: But it really came from like the eighteen visions Adamantium
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  Speaker 3: like throw down thing. But I'm going I'm just rambling,
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  Speaker 3: But anyway, it was magical. It really made us feel
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: really good, like we could accomplish what we wanted to accomplish.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're seeing bands.
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  Speaker 3: We felt so good from local support and the people
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  Speaker 3: here that like, you know, the show started becoming like
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: talked about in other states and shit, and like we're
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: getting offers from people that go play places like oh
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: this is weird and I'm talking about like Bleeding Through
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  Speaker 3: or eighteen Visions.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm like okay, So it's like let's start going.
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  Speaker 3: And then it was like I felt like we all
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: started kind of traveling east and breaking down the walls
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: as we went and eventually kind of just like with
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: that direction and yeah, man, like but honestly, man, the
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: vibes are so good here at shows, like they really are.
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  Speaker 3: And like I'm not just trying to be like a
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: Homer because but I mean, dude, like it's just I
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: still feel like there's such a big appreciation for what
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: we've created here ourselves over the last fucking thirty years
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: of like bringing like heavy music under that heavy music
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: up that we all we're all still friends, you know
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: what I mean, Like a math from Avenge just honestly
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: in my gym working out right now, we all hang
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: out like we you know what I mean, We all
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: push each other. We all have like a really good
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: like you know, we have even if we don't see
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: each other for you know, fucking ten years, it's like, hey, man,
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: what's going on? It feels like it's there's a good
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: bond here, you know what I mean. It was good competition.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: It was a healthy competition, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, man, I'm just I'm glad to be forged.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it would have happened if we were
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: from somewhere else. Yeah, I think it was all reason,
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 5: That makes perfect sense to me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we I mean we obviously with like interviewing a
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: lot of bands from a lot of that scene, like
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: the hardcore metal scene. Yeah, you know a lot of
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: those bands coming up in like the late ninety or whatever.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Many of them are from Orange County or southern California.
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  Speaker 1: And what's really cool is like how many of them
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: kind of like what you're describing is many of them
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  Speaker 1: like have remained there, right, you know, you got a
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: lot of people and in the world or whatever, especially now,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: like even myself, like I grew up in South Dakota
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  Speaker 1: and now I live in Minneapolis, and like you, people
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  Speaker 1: move to a different state or a different city, and
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: the amount of people I know that we're in that
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: like punk or hardcore scene or metal scene in in
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: the southern California region, in those like nineties, early two thousands,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: and how many of them are just like, no, this
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: is just this is home. This will always be home.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Like I really respect that. That's so cool.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: There's no reason to leave.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Like honestly, I am you know, I feel very fortunate
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: and blessed to live here and grow up here, you
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Like I have roots in the Midwest, and that's I
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: consider like.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: The ch Carbo area my second home and I have
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: family there and even through Wisconsin this stuff, and that's
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: like part of my heart's there as well. But like
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: this is like where, this is, this is this is me.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I could do me anywhere else,
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: like literally, like I don't know. And you know what
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: the funny thing is, It's like my friends are the
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: same way as myself.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: It's like we're all surrounded by each other.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: That people that are just nuts, like working fourteen to
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: sixteen hours a day and never stopping.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: It's like, I don't know, we just I'm not trying
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: to breath, I'm not trying to like whatever, but like
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: we just we have a work ethic one because it's
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: the land of competition, and it truly is the land
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: of competition, and if you aren't willing to put in
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: the fucking work, you're never gonna make it. And two,
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: the state's way too fucking expensive, and if you don't
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: work your goddamn asks.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Off, it's like goes kick you out to California or
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: uh to Colorado or Texas, right or Texas? Yeah, seriously,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Well let's talk about how you Then you started with
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: bleeding through obviously, you know, like you were in eighteen Visions.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: You talked a little bit about that, and then at
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: some point you end up you know, I would imagine
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: like you just like know a lot of these other
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: guys whatever, and then you all decide to start bleeding through.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Is that kind of how that story goes.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: I was playing in eighteen Visions. That was like my band,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: a like eighteen Visions was my band.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: That was me. I started playing in Throwdown because it
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: was like it was Throwdown. It was fucking fun. Those
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: were great.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, yes, I'll play guitar and fucking awesome, right,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: And then I was playing a show locally with so
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: we throwed out.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: When I was in throw Down, like if Keith Keith.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: This happened a couple of times Keith's voice went out
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: and I would just step in and sing. And I
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: didn't consider myself a singer at all. I was a
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: guitar player. But I'm like, I could. I know I
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: can do it because I did backups. I'm like, I
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: know I can do it. So I would do a
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: couple of shows here or there, and there was a
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: home show where I don't know if you was sick
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: or you had another show, but we played a home
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: show and I sang.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: It and it was like it was a very big show.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: It turned out being like one of the biggest shows
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: that thrown out did at that point. Nothing to do
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: with me singing, but it made me look It made
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: me appear to look pretty awesome because it was going
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: fucking nuts and I'm like, yeah, handing out the mic
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: for fucking half the set. And this guy Scott to Know,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: who I was friends with, was at the show and
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: he just comes after me and he's after the set
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: and he just goes, hey, we're gonna start a banning here.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: You sing, And I'm like, I don't really want to
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: be singer. He's like, no, like you gotta be a singer.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Like I don't know he's like, I don't know what
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: it was. He's like, what, there's something about like you
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: with a microphone that just kind of worked.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, fine, I'll try it.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: And we started a band called Breakneck stupid name, but
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: it was gonna be a joke. I'm like, I'm just
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: saying it's gonna be a band that's not gonna be
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: too serious. But then we started writing, like we really
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: like him and I were really into like black metal
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: and like death metal like Suffocation and Emperor and at
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: the Gates and shit like that, and I'm like, dude,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: let's started like writing these riffs. So we started putting
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: together some like more technical stuff and I'm like, okay,
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Breakneck cannot be our name. And we're like, let's call
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: it bleeding Through. And I'm like it just came out
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: like that, it came out right away, and he's like
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: by bleeding Through and I'm like, I don't know, but
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: like it's just like feels good. And it's kind of
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: like we're kind of like all the same, Like I
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: have my mental my mental towards like people is like
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: very we're all like one organism, and to me, like
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: we bleed through life together, whether our beliefs and whatever
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: the fuck we are, you know what I mean, So
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: very emo.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Way to give a cool name, but.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Mediocre fucking metalcore band, right, so like, so that was
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: my whole thinking, and and we took that name. And
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: for a little while I was doing all three bands,
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: and the first show we played, we weren't even supposed
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: to play it. We had two and a half songs
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: and with eighteen visions. We're driving back down to southern California.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: We're playing a couple of shows with that Martori a d.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: And we had a show at coming up to this
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: place called Showcase Theater. I don't know if you guys
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: have ever heard about Showcase Theater. Showcase you've heard of
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: chain reaction yep, okay, Showcase was like the first chain reaction.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: That's like, we're really like, that's where really it started.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: But it just transcended when it got to cham Win.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Chane reaction became the spot they were playing Showcase and
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: the first band had to drop off, and so our friends,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: the guitar player Scott bleeding Through hit me up was like, Hey,
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: there's an opening spot, do you want to do it?
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: And I'm like dude, we have like two and a
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: half songs. He's like, listen, we'll fucking just do the two.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: We'll do an Integrity cover, which we did, and we'll
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: just like figure out a way before the show, like
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: just end this other song on like a just we'll
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: write a breakdown in the back alley of the venue,
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: and when we're done with the song as we know it,
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: I'll ring out and I'll just start with this breakdown
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: and after this many measures, and we literally prapped it
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: in the back and the end of it was like
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: the end of the set was like ring out. He
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: stalked with this riff and we just played this fucking
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: suffocation heavy style breakdown and I don't even remember when
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: I screamed.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Over it, but it went fucking nuts.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Bananas like bananas, And I remember like stating there and
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: I'm just like fuck. After the show, uh, A friend
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: comes up to me and he's like, dude, that was
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: your first show and it went that crazy.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: He's like, imagine what the next.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Show is going to be like or when you put
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: out a demo and I'm like, yeah, but this band's
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: not gonna do that. We're just gonna do like local shit,
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: and it was like we played the second show and
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: it was like nuts.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: We put out a demo and the third show sold
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: out chain reaction.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Wow, that was just it.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: That was it.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: I love I love that you described it like like
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: you know, like when a husband doesn't do very good
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: at putting away dishes or like yeash the dishes or whatever,
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: and so the way, yeah, yeah, that's a wife then
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: is is getting on. Yeah, but if you do too
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: good of a job, that means it's your job from
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: now on, right, right, So that's basically what you did
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: with Bleeding Through, right Yeah.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Man, it just I don't know, I think people were
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: just ready for something like that.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it is. It is a strange formula.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, it doesn't really exist like that. That form
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: of hardcore doesn't really exist.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: It's like you were playing blast beats, like nobody was
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: playing blast beats at a hardcore.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Show, you know what I mean? Right, But I'm like, dude.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Like let's just play. I remember when you're like writing
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: songs like I don't know if people are gonna like
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: that shit like blast beats, like you know what I mean?
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: And now it's you can't It doesn't have blacket looks. Yeah,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: I remember just playing it and just like by the
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: third show when we had a demo out, it was
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: like my lyrics were very like emotional, emotionally driven, and
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: seeing the way that started something is in my fucking eyeball.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: There was something about the way that people were singing
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: back lyrics to me, my lyrics.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I was like, whoa, this is fucking crazy.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: It just instantly just like the bond was there, and
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: nothing else mattered after that. I'm like, if this band
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: can connect on an emotional level and like an aggressive level,
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: I'm like, that is like what I've been searching for
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: for like ever in music.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: That is me and that is like.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: My vision to what I feel like hardcore or like
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: metal is to me, you know what I mean. Yeah,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: it just became this like emotional pull and then nothing
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: else mattered. At that moment, I knew it was only
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: a matter of time before I instantly actually, funny story,
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: we'll get God, what I don't know what's in my eyeball?
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: You either spitting at me or some shity green tea?
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Baby dude? Here, am I allergic to green tea?
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Just finding out now?
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, So.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: In the beginning days of Bleeding Through, Keith decided to
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: stop singing for throw Out and they asked me to
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: sing for Thrownout, and I'm like, long story short, I
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: decided to quit throw Down to sing for Bleedy Through,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: and then shortly after that, I was just like, yeah,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: I'm done with eighteen Visions too. I just it's something
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: against eighteen Visions, just musically. That was better for them,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: This is better for me.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: It was. It was.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: It was the party that needed to happen. Although if
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: I stayed the guitar player of eighteen Visions, I don't
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: mind saying it, it would have been fucking awesome. Yeah yeah,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: not saying they're not awesome. They are awesome, but it
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: would have took a little bit different of a turn.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sure you still miss playing the guitar. I do.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: I'll be I'll be honest, I miss playing I miss
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: playing in both those bands, you know what I mean
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: for some fucking great years.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Wow, So you're you're talking about like some of those
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: origins around Bleeding Through, and so within like a few years,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: you guys go from playing your first show and playing
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: two and a half songs since two in like a
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: three or four years time, you're on MTV H So,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: like what was that just? I mean that had to
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: have been just a wild ride where just like before
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: you know it within a few years, like just life
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: is just coming at you so fast, like there's you're
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: probably doing a bunch of shows. I know, I think
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: by that point you're on your third album. I mean
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: it's just like everything probably was happening so fast. I
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: would imagine around that time, dude, it was.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: The best shit ever. Like I'll be honest, like.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: We were very appreciated that, like still are, but back
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: then so like we couldn't we couldn't believe it. Like
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: a whole genre, a whole genre of music was being
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: like was developing in front of everybody's eyes, and it
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: was like so fast, right, it was like boom, there
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: we are, fucking Norma Jean's playing fucking us fest.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Like what's happening? You know what I mean? You mean,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: like the Devil Tour? Like what's going on here?
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Like so it's like it was just one of those
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: things where like every day was so exciting because as
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: things were happening, you were hearing like our friends bands
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: are getting signed by this label that bands with that label,
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: and it was so fucking rat. It's this cyclone of
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: fucking energy, right, Like that's how That's how I like
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: to describe it.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: It was like this unbelievable high that.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: You're on for like for like four or five years,
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: when everything was so new and every day was like
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: some new information or something was happening that was wait
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: a minute, we're getting paid how much because this company
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: wants to make bleed through socks?
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: What do you mean?
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Like shit Like that was like there was no there
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: was no blueprint of how we were supposed to like
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: deal with it.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: There was like nothing, you know what I mean. And
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: it was just so exciting.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: But I just remember feeling like almost like shell shock
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: the whole time, like just like what's happening? Like uh,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: and not really like being able to take it in
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: so fully because it was like so overwhelming. But honestly,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: like I just remember, like it felt so fucking good
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: and I loved it that, like all of our friends
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: bands were experiencing the same thing. It was like competitive.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: People thought we were like a really competitive band, but
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: like we really weren't.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: We were probably the least competitive band.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Like we loved when bands were like had crazy opportunities
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: and tours. Of course you'd be like, why not us,
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? But like that's every band
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: you're not that you don't really care, you know what
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: I mean?
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: But did you did you ever like get a sense
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: of because you guys are like one of those early
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: pioneers of metalcore and then to see within, you know,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: by the mid to late two thousands, some of the
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: highest charting music in the world was this weird metal
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: genre called metalcore, Like you had August Burns Read and
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: under Oath and like Devil Wears Product. I mean you
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: just you name it. Uh. They were some of the
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: biggest not just biggest metal bands in the world. They
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: were some of the biggest bands in the world. They
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: were headlining more tour, they were selling out arenas And
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: do you ever kind of like look back and it's
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: like I was a part of like creating this this
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: particular kind of music that had a certain moment in
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: time where it was one of the largest, one of
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: the most listened to genres of music. Like I would
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: have like do you look back and think like that
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I was a part of that, Like I was a
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: part of the pioneering I do now.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: And it's like, I hope the rest of the bands
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: that had something to do with it also look back
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: and like take credit for it, being like humble for.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: It anymore exactly.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: But we blood, sweat and years a fucking trail, dude,
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Like it was fucking hard as fuck, you know what
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: I mean. There was no blueprint for us. We were
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: going to cities that we were like the first band
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: from out of state to play there, you know what
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, Like Dark Sours doing the same thing on
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: the other coast, like Unearthed was doing that same shit,
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: like we were just having to like and it was
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: so inconsistent too, Like talk about waves. You play one
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: show when there's like four hundred people and then you
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: go to a basement play in front of ten like that,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: because it wasn't balanced then, you know what I mean, right,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: I take great pride in it for sure. Like when
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: I see a band like Motionless and White playing fucking WrestleMania,
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Like you know, they've said it in plenty of times,
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: like we are their biggest influence.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: That's crazy to me.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: If what we started has spawned to that level that
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: it's gotten in more people and more people are listening
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: to heavy music.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: That's it's like, that's like the most rewarding thing, you
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's like it's fucking cool man.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Looking back and reflecting is awesome to be honest. Yeah,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: I get choked up about it. Sometimes.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: I do this thing where I like just tick all
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: memories and like smash them inside me and then just
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: like let it out. I'm not gonna do that right
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: now because I'll start crying.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: I love that.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: So you guys kind of are you know, in this
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: interesting time period where obviously so you guys tour for
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: a while, you're doing the whole thing for roughly like
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: a decade or so, and then obviously there's like hiatus
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: stuff and then I think it's twenty eighteen, what's the
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: last album? And you guys are playing some shows since
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: then and everything, But yeah, like where would you say
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: kind of the status of the band is? Like has there?
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Like is is bleeding through writing new music? Are you
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: playing on like touring a little bit more, playing more shows?
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Like just curious, like where are you all at right now?
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: When it comes to the band.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Well, there's the realistic point where we're at, and then
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: there's like the fantasy land where like we want to
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: but like it's we're like stuck in this like middle
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: road where we're like we are enjoying it, probably more
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: now than we ever have. But I think we are
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: enjoying it because more than we have is because we
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: play like thirty shows a year. We're not touring, you
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. I mean we are, but our
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: touring is limited. Like we'll go we're like weekend warriors, dude,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Like we would go play like Minneapolis and like Milwaukee, Chicago,
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: fly home, you know what I mean, Like shit like that,
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: or festival runs and stuff like that.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Like that's that's all we can really do because my
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: gym is like I'm at.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: My gym like twelve fourteen hours a day, right, you
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: know what I mean.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: So yeah, man, I mean there's.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: New music we could maybe expect in the next Yes,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: there is.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I don't want to be like super like we're right now.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: We just put out we just put out a new
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: a new singleness.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Case just a few weeks ago. It's sick yeah, so good.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this new record. I mean fant say it all
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: the time. This record is gonna better than the Lost record.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: It's like I'll say this first. Our best record to
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: me is Declaration. It will never be be. It's just
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: such a fierce, rob motherfucker of a record that, like
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: seriously like we wanted to break up as a band
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: when we were riding it.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Like it was a.
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: Back style.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Total.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: But this record is, this is the new Us. Like
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: I didn't want to come back and after especially after
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: COVID and be sort of like a just a legacy act.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: I wanted to make sure we do that we were
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: flesh and blood still, we weren't just to play vestivals.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Will play fucking shows, like we'll play fucking anywhere. We
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: played Lubbock, Texas and Iowa City like small mart We'll
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: play if you want us, you know what I mean.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: We just we're just not able to to do like
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: the long tours because of my gym and we all
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: in our own company as Martin owns a gym and
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: our owns a bar and has three fucking kids and
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Brady Bunch and.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Fucking shit man.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, like like we've figured out
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: a pocket to where we're super comfortable with the shows
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: that we're playing now.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: We don't really play bad shows, which is kind of cool.
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: That's gonna be the best.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: I guess the years has kind of afforded us that.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: But yeah, we're gonna continue writing music. There's gonna be
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: there's stuff coming in the future. It'll be more in
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: the vein of like the last song. We have a
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: lot of stuff written right now. I'm weekly recording with
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: vocals on tracks with Tim Mbisis. So I'm there's stuff
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: in the works. It's happening, and we're keep playing as much.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: We will stretch the shows, as many shows as we
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: can do a year. As to the women like, we'll
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: stretch it. We'll play as many places as we possibly can.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: You know, love it, Yeah, and I love I love
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: the new band, I love our new guitar players.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: I love all that shit.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: That's great. That's great cool.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: And one of those places you're gonna be playing is
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Furnace bast super stoked to see you there, Colin and
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I will be there. We're doing kind of this Furnace
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Fest series where we're interviewing different bands that are gonna
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: be playing obviously the festival this year, and so if
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: you've not gotten your tickets yet, be sure to get
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: your tickets so you can see Bleeding Through and a
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: million other great bands. Uh but uh yeah, is there
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: is there is there any like maybe surprise that we
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: could expect at furnace Fest, Like, is is there anything
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: that you're like if it's surprising, like we got something
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: in our up our sleeves right now for this?
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Well yes, but I'm not going to tell you.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, would like you heard it here first. I'm like,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I'm still waiting on like more like citations of of
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: this podcast on Wikipedia. So I was really really hoping
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: for something. But oh shit, I get it.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: Push up contest.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go.
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that'd be fun.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: Uh No, So I got to catch you guys a
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: little bit last time you played at forn Fest and
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: it was fucking riotous.
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: It was great, It was awesome. What do you uh,
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: what do you.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Love about playing at furnace Best because it is a
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: completely different kind of setup. But maybe, as you were saying,
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: you don't you don't get to play bad shows anymore.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: So did it kind of fall in line with the
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: same vein of fandom and riotousness or was it what
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: you expected and what do you expect this time?
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: That show is really the show that gave us the
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: we did three festivals leading up to that, and this
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: was after COVID. We hadn't been playing shows like in
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: twenty eighteen we played put Out Love Khol played shows,
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: started getting on the roll, and then COVID and it
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: was like whoa, so we would have been rolling straight
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: through there, like I'm probably the same kind of capacity
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: rolling now. Then after COVID we're like during COVID, I'm like,
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: I don't even know if this band's gonna do it anymore,
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? I don't even know right,
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: And it's like, so we got back together. First couple
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: of festivals were e little rusty, little creaky, then we
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: played A we played Blue Ridge felt Better, and then
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: we played Furnace Fast And as soon as started playing
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: like there we are like there it is like that
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: was the show that like I think we all I
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: think I even streamed on the microphone We're back, Like
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: how dumb is that?
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: Did you say it? Like erld Swarzenegger too or for real?
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: I think that was the show that actually kind of
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: gave us like the confidence to sort of.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Do this again.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: And I don't know how anything will top anything. I
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: try to just take everything as a moment, like that
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: was a great moment, but it has nothing to do
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: with this moment because I think that I got consumed him. Well,
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: last time we were here, it was better than this time,
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: So we must be fucking horrible every moment.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: It's a separate moment, you know what I mean. So
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: I'm imagining.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: I'm imagining it's gonna be fucking crazy as fuck, right,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Like I don't think that whole show is gonna have
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: any like let off at all, Like, like that lineup
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: is what?
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: The lineup is crazy?
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Are there are there any bands that you're hoping to
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: see at Furnace Fast while you're there, Like I don't
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: know if you're planning on hanging out there for a while,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: but yeah.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Saturday, Fuck dude, the list is insane. So I don't
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: even like it's kind of insane. I mean as far
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: as like newer bands that are playing our day, Like
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Better Lovers is playing our day, I'm looking forward to that, Like, yeah,
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: fucking sick Barrier Dead's playing our day. Yeah, old asternamies
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: from back in the day, I'm really looking forward to
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: that as well. We Us and Barrier Dead played a
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: lot of shows together. US a bench, Sevenfold and Barrier
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Dead did a tour together.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Wow, it's true. Hold on to John and that Yeah, John,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: are you can't see it?
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Guy?
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: How's it gone all right? You guys getting swollen?
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Start with the.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Start with the top, got an embarrassing that's badass.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: That's Orange County fellas dude, small world.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I just thought of it because I was
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: gonna tell this Barrier Dead event seinfold story and I'm like, well,
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: Matt's in there. That's pretty publictly cool. He'd actually probably
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: tell the story too, but he needs to start working out.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: We tore a Barrier Dead on the East coast with
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: even Sevenfold. Crazy fucking ship we're in and kind of
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: like I think people just thought, like even Sembol and
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: a bunch of like just like I don't know, dorks.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, we're all dorks, That's why I absolutely but
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: it's like those dudes are like, we we can scrap here,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like we can and it's
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: like very dead.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: We're in.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: We're in Quebec City and the old singer Barry Dead
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: got in a fight with somebody at the show ended
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: up being the people that were doing the show. They
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: walked back to their van and there's people like waiting
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: for him, And without even thinking about it, dudes in
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: events show will go in their fucking van, get crowbars
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: and bats and walk up like what you guys want
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: to fucking do this that the dudes at the show
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: And I'm just like, that's hard as fun, dude, that's hardcore,
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: hard at fuck. So next time you listen to events full,
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: think of them rolling up on a bunch of people
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: in Quebec city with bats.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: It's pretty rare.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: What year would have this been?
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: What's that?
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: What year would have this been?
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Roughly mm two thousand and two.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, hell yeah, that's cool, it's fucking awesome.
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: Those are some roots, man.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love story stories like that, Like that is
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: worth this whole journey, right, worth this whole thing.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah, yeah, without a doubt. Well, we're looking forward
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: to seeing you at for this past It's gonna be
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: a hell of a show. And uh yeah, you know
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: it sounds like you guys are still like doing a
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: number of shows each year, so hopefully we catch you
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: sometime in the Midwest, whether it's Minneapolis or somewhere nearby.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Twenty twenty five, we have things circle on a map.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: There's like areas that we need to go to, but
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: it's like, you know, lack of This year's kind of
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: been like the international year for US, Like we have
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: shows in Japan and then we're actually doing like a
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: multi week tour. It's our first multi week tour in
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: like since twenty thirteen, and we have in Australia and
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: then coming back and we've got a lot of stuff
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: going on. But twenty twenty five, we're gonna go back
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: to the Midwest. I believe we're gonna possibly do Milwaukee Metalfest.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: I've been talking to Josta about that, and if we
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: do that, we'll probably do some regional runs as well.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: So nights we look for us possibly in Minneapolis or
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: fucking even North Dakota.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Fuck it, let's go Sweet Ctic.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: And then we played South. We've actually waited South Dakota
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: more than North Dakota.
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: Well, most most have.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: North Dcota's got nothing going on, so except for far
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: Ago to an extent, that's not really going on.
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: North and South Dakota have a rivalry. South Dakota is
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: always better, Yeah.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: North North, Northern California and Southern California have a rivalry.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: Too, but we're actually yeah, yeah, yeah, it's good stuff.
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: It's good stuff. I love I love that geographical rivalry.
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: It's good.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Do you want to get into top five?
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: Let's do top five? Are you ready for your top five?
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: Most influential not necessarily your favorite, the most influential albums
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: of your life, things that albums that have changed you
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: as a person, as a human and maybe even as
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: a musician.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: I mean probably a lot of people have said this
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: terrible or Split Power was like, whoa, hell, yeah, let's.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: See Uniform Choice.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Screaming for Change is the record I'm talking about with
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Free that's the one with the guy's hand, Yeah, with
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: like the excellent hand.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, cool covers, getting in some different ship Morris's via hate.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Oh I have you be hate tattooed on my hand?
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: How much I love?
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: Hell?
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the one that you're gonna a f I
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: singing sorrow?
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: Really yes, I don't think if I gets enough credit person.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: They've been a bad band long, they've been a good band,
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: that's true. But they're in the Metallica realm right now.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: But there, but they don't get enough credit.
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't get enough credit for their good records.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: I don't think we did it.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: We did some shows with them when Singing Sorrow whence
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: that came out. We did some like some regional like
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: touring with them. And how weird is that Bleeding through
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Hot Water music a fi.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Like, so cool but so.
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: Weird, so strange, I agree, But.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: To see that band go from like here to like
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: before and actually be on those stages and see like
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: the fandom, it was like the fucking Beatles, dude. That's
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: that's what that moment, that that record made it seem
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: possible to go to another.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Level with the type of.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Almost if weren't they featured in like a south Park
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: episode or something like. I think there was like an
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: emo south Park episode and they were like they're like
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: they had like had a poster or something of Afi
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: in there.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: That's crazy, dude.
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: They got so big so fast.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: Almost probably made you want to put on eyeshadow, didn't it.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: I mean I did?
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: Who Actually your your your face paint? Stuff that you
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: do is rad as hell.
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: By the way, it's.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: It's prim people have said something about what are you like?
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Why do you care? This is what gets me on stage,
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: is what gets me fucking going. This is my ship.
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you're going to war out.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: There, really fucking I really am. Yeah, you know, and
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: like it's therapeutic, like it. I put that ship on
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: right before the show. If I can feel it, I know,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: you guys listen to think of nuts.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: No, this is everyone knows what Everyone knows what you mean.
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: If they've watched Brave Heart once, they know. If they've
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: watched Brave Heart once, they know all you need to.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: Do is watch it once. But yeah, so let's try
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: to get to the fourth record. Uh, Integrity Systems, Overload.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: Oh hell yeah, those are probably my top five that
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: I could think of that.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Did Integrity play like a year or so ago at
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: for an ass?
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: Oh yes, they're still doing shows, man. Yeah, like it's crazy,
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: like a lot a lot of shows. Actually it's cool.
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: I love it.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: So is that was that the fourth one? Or is
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: that five?
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: I was the fifth one?
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Oh shit, we got vulgar yep?
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Wait was that? I said? Vulgar? Okay, vulgar slave power yep?
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: Morrissey morrisey f I.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: And then yeah, maybe that was the fourth?
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: I think Yeah, one more.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Okay Slayer, But it's the one Slayer record that is
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: the most obscure of all Slayer records, but I personally
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: think is the best, and that's divine intervention.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: Ah Okay, I love that. Yeah, So why why and
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: not not any of the others.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: You hear the way that fucking record starts.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: Man, it's the crazy it's Bostap, not Lombardo. So I
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: remember when that transition was happening to going, oh, Slayer's done,
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: they can't do it without Lombardo, and they get Bowstap
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: and He's like, here's this forty second drum fill with
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: thirty fucking minutes straight of double bass.
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: You know what. I'm like, guys, fucking running while sitting
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: in place.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: I love it too.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's kind of like my that's sort of
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: like my my ship Integrity Systems.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Overload is on there.
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I love that.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: It's just like so hardcore and so metal, and then
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Morris just left in there.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's a lyrical thing. I think it's it's a
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: writing thing.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: It's it's it's he's an artist where you feel it
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: and you kind of come up with your own interpretation
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: of what that song means to you, because when you
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: try to figure out what the funk he means you're like,
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: what the fuck do you mean?
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: Like it's yeah, I love I love I love that
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: as well.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, okay, and I'm already forgetting ship we're talking about,
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: like obscure. My favorite artist is Cigarros.
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I love cigarettes, so like.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: Jonesy is my favorite songwriter composer. So that's above all.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: That is like my world and the type of music
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: that I really enjoy like listening to is layers and
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: layers and art and layers and art, like that's.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Like my ship.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: So so what's your what's your favorite Cigareroes album?
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: Then you can't even ask me that I don't know.
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: Is it because you don't know or is it because
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: you can't pronounce them?
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: So I'll just say and I obviously I love every
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: single one of their albums, but I am very partial
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: to Valtari, like that album holds a special place in
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: my life.
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, both of us.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: I'm feeling it on that. What's the one that's the symbol?
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: The symbol?
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: I don't know how to say it.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: I don't how to say, but that was like their
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: first big one.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, that might be my favorite one.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: That one, so Colin and I saw them play like
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: a year and a half ago or two years ago now, Yeah,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: And they played in this theater in Minneapolis, and I'm
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: pretty sure most of the songs that they played were
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: from that album. And yeah, it's just it's like outstanding.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: It's one. It was one of the loudest shows I've
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: ever been to. And I've like I've seen I've seen
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: like Zayo and a ship ton of other like metal
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: hardcore bands in the shed at Furnace Best. It doesn't
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: really get much louder than that, But for some reason,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Sergeros can get louder than all of those bands.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I saw them play. I literally was like
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: crying my fucking like it just grips you.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: It fucking grips your goddamn soul, dude, Like it's like
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: you can't feel like that twelve minute build up of
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: a fucking and get to that part where it breaks
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: and opens up and you're just.
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: Like, oh fuck, yeah, it's really here.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Here's the other question. Do you work out ever to Sergarros?
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: No way, No, really.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: I think I think it's come on once, Like if
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: I was like at another.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Gym and it's come on, I like I've p Dard
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: to like I'm sure, Sir Garros, but I've like I
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: pr to like death cap for Quti, Like that's the
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: kind of ship that I listened to working out.
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: You want to guess is PR numbers?
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: Just kidd.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: All right, Brandon, what do you what do you want
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: to plug?
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, your songs out. It's fucking rad if you if
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: you have any to me, that song is a statement
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: for anybody that's like I don't know about bleeding through,
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: listen to that fucking song. Then if you don't believe
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: that there's we're still strong band, listen to that song
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: because that's only just like the beginning, Like it means
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: so much. If you don't, if you don't know if
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: it means anything, listen to that fucking song. It means something,
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: you know, Like also, my Jim, this is going on
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: twelve years, which is pretty crazy. Hell yeah, it's become
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: an awesome staple and Orange County for like, it's become
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: a place where it's people drop by when they're on
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: trips and ship it's kind of cool, like it's fun cool.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's basically it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you what. If Mason and I are
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: down in southern California. We're definitely go to stop By
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: and we're gonna lift.
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: Uh yeah, awesome. Yeah, I'll make it up in hell.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm all about that. Sweet Uh bring in anything
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: else you'd like to plug?
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Well, okay, I might get in trouble for this.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: One, that's all that's fine with me.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: In two thousand and seven, I filled in for Corey
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Taylor slipped on, Yeah he did.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: I did?
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: Did anyone know?
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: We kept it a secret?
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: Did you do.
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: You have that good of a of a Oh Corey
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: Taylor confascination?
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, hot, damn dude?
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: So you like you dressed the part and everything right.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: I wanted the mask jumps. I did the same call outs.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: I did all of his Shenanigans, all of his crop
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: participation parks. Sit down, everybody sit down, and everybody jump up.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Multiple walls of death.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Ye yeah, yeah, all of it and nobody nobody knew.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah it happened.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: Is this?
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: We could essentially have like, you know how like in
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: the Beatles, you know they had the Paul is Dead conspiracy?
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: What if Corey Taylor is actually dead and your Corey Taylor?
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know, damn.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: Dude, I know I probably just blew your guys minds.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: This is like and oh my god, I like, is.
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: Life real at this point?
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: Is what?
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: I pretty crazy?
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: That is crazy? Dude? Is it is it hard singing
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: through that mask?
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: It's really fucking hard.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure it just brings back I mean, when
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: COVID happened. I'm sure, leg I'll ask You're just like,
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: it's like the same thing, horror stories, Vietnam style flashback.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: Right, just sweat and smell. O.
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: God, that latex smells gotta be awful. Dude, that's killer.
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: That's killer. I did not know that, and I doubt
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: any of our listeners knew that.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, but you said you do have those Midwest roots,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: so you know, you know, I bet the worst part
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: about being and Slipknot was the fact that you have
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: to say we're from Iowa.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's the part. Yeah, totally, that's all.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Brandon. Uh, thank you so much for chatting Moore about
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: bleeding to again. Like, you guys are total legends. Uh
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: and UH have influenced so many of the bands that
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: like Colin and I have grown up listening to and
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: we're super super stoked. Uh to see that's you know,
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: seeing you guys at fast. It's going to be a
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: hell of a show, and so thanks so we're gonna
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: we'll see you soon.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Go thank you guys so much for having me