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Gordie Chiesa on Utah Jazz and the NBA, Keyonte George's role on a winning Jazz team, Entertaining game vs the Nuggets + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: He's out.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
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  Speaker 2: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa. He's forgotten more about the
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  Speaker 2: NBA than any of us will ever know.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not get crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Come for the hoops talk, stay for his list of
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  Speaker 2: the day a list today.
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  Speaker 1: Here's OC with.
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  Speaker 2: Basketball sabon Gordy Chiasa on the Sean O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome into the Shat O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 3: It's again welcome our resident NBA guru, mister Gordon Chiasa.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Gordy, how are you showing?
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing well? Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Utah Jazz.
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  Speaker 3: Last night hard fought battle against the Nuggets, but ultimately
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  Speaker 3: a loss, which I think is what everyone kind of
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  Speaker 3: hopes for, especially against the good teams in the NBA,
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  Speaker 3: and I wanted to We started the show today talking
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  Speaker 3: about Kyante George specifically, he had another really nice game
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  Speaker 3: and he's had a lot of those this year, and
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  Speaker 3: we were talking about, you know, like the place that
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  Speaker 3: he really fits in on a playoff team, and the
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  Speaker 3: Jazz hope to be that starting next year.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, he's kind of on his own.
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  Speaker 3: Because of all the other injuries that have piled up,
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  Speaker 3: and even in that sense, he almost willed this team
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  Speaker 3: to a victory last night against a really good Nugget squad.
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  Speaker 3: So Kiante's growth this year is something we have talked about.
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  Speaker 3: But what does Kiante's future look like.
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  Speaker 4: Coin He's a starting guard, and he's he's a sean.
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  Speaker 4: He's a combination point guard, scoring guard, and he can
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  Speaker 4: he can make shots, and he's fearless, and so he's
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  Speaker 4: just definitely a winning starting point guard and as they
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  Speaker 4: go forward to Jazz in the next three to five years,
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  Speaker 4: is knocking on being an All Star. So he's very good,
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  Speaker 4: and immaturity in dex has increased tremendously. This is third
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  Speaker 4: season the NBA. Usually speaking, the game slows down after
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  Speaker 4: the first two seasons where you really realize how you
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  Speaker 4: have to play to win, and he's understanding that right now.
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  Speaker 4: So he's been spectacular the whole year and I'm glad
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  Speaker 4: for him as a young player. And the Jazz future
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  Speaker 4: is absolutely bright. So example Black last night, he was
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  Speaker 4: absolutely brilliant thirty six points, including fourteen for twenty two
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  Speaker 4: from the field. But it's when he got them and
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  Speaker 4: how he got them, and you mentioned a point about
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  Speaker 4: it is that he willed his team to almost the victory.
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  Speaker 4: His shooting last night was pitch perfect when he shot them,
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  Speaker 4: how he shot them, and Musco why he shot them.
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  Speaker 3: So we were debating in the first segment, a guy
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  Speaker 3: like him, if you in an ideal world, you slot
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  Speaker 3: him in to the role of top scorer on the
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  Speaker 3: team secondary scorer. Because you're wanting him to be more
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  Speaker 3: of a facilitator, you delegate him more to that third
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  Speaker 3: or fourth spot in the Again, this imaginary perfect world
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  Speaker 3: that the Jazz have not ever existed in but hopefully
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  Speaker 3: will sooner than later. Deontae George Phil's what scoring role?
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  Speaker 4: Third option? Yeah, which is good. Third option has got
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  Speaker 4: averaging twenty something a game and will say seven dimes
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  Speaker 4: and hopefully one point six steals, which is absolutely critical
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  Speaker 4: when you're guarding the NBA, be able to walk, content
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  Speaker 4: and steal. And so Ace Belly got a whole bunch
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  Speaker 4: of talent. Could be that second guy and the first
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  Speaker 4: guy again, it could be Larry Marketing, who again, he
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  Speaker 4: just hasn't played such a long time. Still a lot
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  Speaker 4: of times it's out of sight, out of mind, and whoever.
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  Speaker 4: The Jazz draft this year, that guy, whether it's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
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  Speaker 4: wherever the lot of regards allowed a Jazz to draft,
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  Speaker 4: come this tune, and that guy will also be a major,
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  Speaker 4: high level talent. So the question is always this show,
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  Speaker 4: just like in the NFL, when's the talent that a
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  Speaker 4: player has meets, what the skill set meets, what the
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  Speaker 4: mental part of it to be able to play at
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  Speaker 4: a high level. And everyone matures differently. We're seeing right
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  Speaker 4: in front of US County George on the mature and
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  Speaker 4: index is now increasing dramatically. So he's really done a
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  Speaker 4: great job for himself, and the Jazz coaching staffs recommended
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  Speaker 4: where they've done with him as far as slowing the
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  Speaker 4: game down for him.
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  Speaker 3: On the other side of things, you have a Denver
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  Speaker 3: Nuggets team that obviously they've got maybe the best player
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  Speaker 3: in the league, one of the three best players in
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  Speaker 3: the league. They've got nice secondary pieces. The bench last
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  Speaker 3: night at least was not bad. When you look at
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  Speaker 3: this Denver Nuggets team, how close to real contention are they?
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  Speaker 4: Very They're they're close. You know, left Knight's game, the
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  Speaker 4: Jazz out fought them, and to their credit, more of
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  Speaker 4: the Jazz played a If the Jags played like that,
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  Speaker 4: you're generally speaking, they would have had six to eight
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  Speaker 4: more victories this year. They were ferocious on defense. The
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  Speaker 4: jazz led by Elijah Hawkless. Now the Nuggets point of view,
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  Speaker 4: the Nuggets cooperated with them minus Jamal Murray. Jamal Murray
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  Speaker 4: last night Sean was really he was. He wasn't human
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  Speaker 4: last night. He was playing in a twilight zone. So
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  Speaker 4: Jamal was not human last night. Forty five points as eight,
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  Speaker 4: eight assists, two steals. They're right there as far as
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  Speaker 4: contending to be NBA champs. Let's not forget they're playing.
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  Speaker 4: They're playing last night with with with that, with injury,
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  Speaker 4: with injuries as far as who he didn't have and
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  Speaker 4: that was a fact that as far as on their
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  Speaker 4: depth right now, so you put in there, you put
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  Speaker 4: in there Aaron Gordon in the lineup, Peyton Watson and
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  Speaker 4: Cam Johnson and with along with Tim Hardaway and Bruce Brown,
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  Speaker 4: they're really absolutely in the Unis viltonists. They have enough
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  Speaker 4: bench to go. So that's a lot of changes with
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  Speaker 4: injuries right now. But the Nuggets right ruggets with those
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  Speaker 4: three guys being out last night, they're right there as
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  Speaker 4: far as being contenders.
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  Speaker 3: Gorda Chase is our guest here on the Sean O'Connell Show,
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  Speaker 3: your Utah v.
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  Speaker 1: Lux Steeler.
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  Speaker 3: As the Jazz continue this delicate balance and you see
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  Speaker 3: a game like the one we saw out of Keyanta
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  Speaker 3: George where he's doing a lot of the heavy lifting
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  Speaker 3: by himself. What about the role players, Because the role
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  Speaker 3: players have to as the injuries pile up and the
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  Speaker 3: shutdowns pile up, the role players have to shift and
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  Speaker 3: they have to change. And you saw something good from
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  Speaker 3: Spheed last night coming off the bench. Kyle Philipowski with
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  Speaker 3: nineteen points was relatively efficient. As you see these guys
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  Speaker 3: improving their game. Who's standing out.
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  Speaker 4: To you, Isaia Callier. He's the guy also that he
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  Speaker 4: said when he's in the game, only good things happen.
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  Speaker 4: And so the Jazz have a nice interesting dilemma where
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  Speaker 4: Jane George is quote a guard. So if he's not
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  Speaker 4: a point guard, he's not a two guard, he's a
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  Speaker 4: guard and that's a compliment. And Isaiah Khalier is a
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  Speaker 4: guard and he's more of a power guard in a
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  Speaker 4: good way where he bully scores in the lane, but
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  Speaker 4: he's past happy. And then Elijah Harkless, who's this guy
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  Speaker 4: in a two way contract that is absolutely a junkyard
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  Speaker 4: dog on defense. He takes guarding people in a very
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  Speaker 4: serious state of mind, and he can play in the NBA.
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  Speaker 4: And so all those two guys stand out. Isaiah Khalier
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  Speaker 4: and what they're going to do with uh with with Hawkless.
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  Speaker 4: And then Censor bar is a knockdown shooter. So I
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  Speaker 4: like the jazz bench. I like the all contributed So
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  Speaker 4: Sean left Night's came, for example, the jazz bench of
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  Speaker 4: right sense of bar Oscar sheet Way also in a
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  Speaker 4: two way contract, Steve Mahaidluke John con Con and as
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  Speaker 4: they call you, they score forty seven points and twelve
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  Speaker 4: assists and outplay badly the understudies of the Nuggets. And
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  Speaker 4: that's why the Jets were able to compete. So some
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  Speaker 4: of those guys will be gone, some will be on
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  Speaker 4: the team where we don't know how it all plays out.
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  Speaker 4: It makes it so interesting. So the Jets have a
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  Speaker 4: really some good decision making this offseason as far as
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  Speaker 4: who they take, who they move on, who they try
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  Speaker 4: to trade for, as different pieces too.
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  Speaker 3: After a three game home stand, the Jazz go back
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  Speaker 3: out on the road.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be the seventy six ers. First. How do they
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  Speaker 1: match up against Philly?
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  Speaker 4: Good? Absolutely good, but Philadelphia, you know, to their credit,
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  Speaker 4: they have a trender's back court. So let's not forget toich.
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  Speaker 4: Maxie leads the NBA in most minutes play this season,
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  Speaker 4: so he's number one in the NBA minutes on the court,
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  Speaker 4: thirty eight point five minutes. And the rookie j Edgecombe,
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  Speaker 4: who was the third pick of the draft, shown you
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  Speaker 4: and I telled him bless you very much before the
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  Speaker 4: draft and Bill University. He's sicks in the NBA and
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  Speaker 4: minutes played. So their backcourt is absolutely heavy lifting. And
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  Speaker 4: those guys have played tremendous for them. So as you
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  Speaker 4: talk about Hawkless and a Collier and Decante George, this
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  Speaker 4: road trip to the city of brotherly Love, which is
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  Speaker 4: the Jazz played them tomorrow night in Philadelphia is going
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  Speaker 4: to be challenging for them. So it's going to be
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  Speaker 4: a good matchup. The sixties point of view they had.
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  Speaker 4: You know, again, it's always what about joeyl On Beef.
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  Speaker 4: He's like the He's the elephant in the back room
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  Speaker 4: where he's hurt right now with the right of bleached strain.
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  Speaker 4: He said, he's out who's playing against the Jazz? And
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  Speaker 4: also Paul George again out of sight, out of mind.
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  Speaker 4: He has that suspension of twenty five game for violating
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  Speaker 4: the NBA Anti drug program where he forfeited shown eleven
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  Speaker 4: point seventy four one point two million dollars for twenty
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  Speaker 4: five games he's suspended. You're won't play against the Jazz.
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  Speaker 4: So the Sixers right now, they're overachieving to their credit
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  Speaker 4: to the sixth seed in the NBA at thirty three
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  Speaker 4: and twenty seven. They're going to try to catch the
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  Speaker 4: upstart Raptors who are also overachieving, and they're going to
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  Speaker 4: try to hold off the Magic and the Heat who
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  Speaker 4: are going to try to chase them. So it should
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  Speaker 4: be interested. It should be a good game for the
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  Speaker 4: Jazz as far as them seem. They can build on
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  Speaker 4: the intensity level of last night.
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  Speaker 1: What's your list today, Gordy?
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  Speaker 4: All right, list today is right on point about scoring.
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  Speaker 4: Got scoring. Hey, even though defense rules, you've got to
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  Speaker 4: be able to score the ball. So these guys have
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  Speaker 4: a career part of scoring the ball. My list today
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  Speaker 4: is most Korea NBA games of scoring twenty plus points
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  Speaker 4: in a regular season contests. So the most ever Korea
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  Speaker 4: twenty point games is the quick attributes. One you need
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  Speaker 4: one signature scoring go to move like for example, range jumper, skyhook, velocity, twist,
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  Speaker 4: layer two consistently scoring through physicality. The better scorer you
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  Speaker 4: are shown, the more they're going to try to stop
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  Speaker 4: you with being physical. Three you have to be an
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  Speaker 4: accurate foul shooting touch you get the bump, you you
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  Speaker 4: get thouves all the time you go to the foul line,
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  Speaker 4: you go zero for two for a crew. Wise, that's awful.
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  Speaker 4: Four you have to be a shot creator and the
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  Speaker 4: finisher out of chaos. The better scorer you are, the
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  Speaker 4: less rhythm the defense allows you to have. So I
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  Speaker 4: have to score out of chaos. And the last thing
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  Speaker 4: is that we have a long creer. In the NBA
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  Speaker 4: or in the NFL or Major League baseball, you have
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  Speaker 4: to have mind, body durability, the ability mentally to score
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  Speaker 4: the ball under pressure, and that quotes physical and also mentally.
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  Speaker 4: Here we go, I kept it, only only kept it
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  Speaker 4: tilli only twelve guys twelfth all times. Dominique Wilkins seven
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  Speaker 4: hundred and fifty six twenty point plus games. Number eleven.
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  Speaker 4: Will Chamberlain did it seven seventy one, but sean only
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  Speaker 4: in fourteen seasons. Number ten. He plays right now for
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  Speaker 4: the Cavaliers. James Harden got it seven hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 4: four times. Number nine all time. Tamelo Anthony, he's done
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  Speaker 4: it seven ninety six times. Number eight, Shapill O'Neal eight
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  Speaker 4: twenty six twenty point games and plus number seven. Dirk
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  Speaker 4: Nowitzki with that step back jump shot. He did it
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  Speaker 4: eight hundred and sixty one times. Number six. Michael Jordan
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  Speaker 4: in fifth in fifteen seasons did it nine hundred and
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  Speaker 4: twenty six times. Number five. The late great Kobe Bryant
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  Speaker 4: did it nine hundred and forty one times. Number four.
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  Speaker 4: He plays for the He plays Uston Rockets right now
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  Speaker 4: as we say speak. He got twenty last night plus
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  Speaker 4: in the last night's game against the Wizards. Kevin Durant
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  Speaker 4: has done it one thousand and seven times. Number three.
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  Speaker 4: Kareem Abdul Jabbar scored twenty or more points in a
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  Speaker 4: game one thousand, one hundred and twenty two times. Number two.
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  Speaker 4: I had the privileged coach this guy in many of
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  Speaker 4: these games. Carl Malone is second all time in the
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  Speaker 4: most ever twenty plus point games with one thousand, one
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  Speaker 4: hundred and thirty four and the number one scorer and
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  Speaker 4: the most ever twenty point plus games is Lebron James
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  Speaker 4: and counting of the Lakers with one thousand, three hundred
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  Speaker 4: and fourteen times he did it, which shows you all
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  Speaker 4: the attributes that all these guys in this list have. Quickly,
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  Speaker 4: what about President Jazz roster Larry Markinen has done it
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  Speaker 4: in his career two hundred and seventeen times as far
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  Speaker 4: as twenty point games, and Chante George, we get this
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  Speaker 4: feeling that he's gonna keep scoring in that list someday
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  Speaker 4: and hopefully has a long, long, long career, he'll be
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  Speaker 4: there someday as far as in this list. Thus, Seoan,
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  Speaker 4: that's my list of today.
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  Speaker 1: Gordon, it's always a great pleasure. Thanks for your time again.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks Sean, Peace out, stay well.
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  Speaker 3: Gordy Chie is a resident NBA guru, will have him
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  Speaker 3: in the studio. We're we do that tomorrow because there's
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  Speaker 3: a Utah women's basketball game on Thursday.