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X-Men '97 Episode Four Review, Reaction & Recap: "Motendo/Lifedeath Part 1" · For All Nerds Show

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So the fun is here, and I'm here. Excellent, excellent, And
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we are here today too. We are gathered here today, tell me very
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much, but we are gathered here today to talk X Men ninety seven episode
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four titled Moltendo Slash Life Death one. Before we get into like running down
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the entire episode and the recap it and all that other stuff, I just
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want you guys opinion, just how have you been feeling about X Men ninety
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seven thus far, especially if you've watched the original X Men series back in
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like Fox Kids' days, and like, how do you what do you see?
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And how you feeling about the new presentation? Anyone go first? Yeah,
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you go ahead, Joe, Okay, Yeah, I used to watch
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the old one. I had to like start rewatching it when I found the
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X Men ninety seven was coming because I was like, oh I don't remember
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this shit. I didn't even try to go back, I was just like,
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get it. I was like, okay, let me watch a few
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episodes. I mean, it definitely is very similar to what I remember it
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like, very overdramatic, trying to pack a lot of story into like these
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tiny episodes. But I'm really enjoying it so far. I love all the
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Easter eggs and cameos, like I'm actually X Men and Pants are like,
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oh did you see that? Like oh did you did? You? Like?
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Oh that was cool? So I love that so far? Amazing.
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What about you? The same for me? I never watched it consistently when
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the old show was on, but I always caught episodes and I was hoping
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that they were going to be able to capture the nostalgia. And I feel
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like they did so perfectly. It made me want to go back and rewatch
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everything. It makes me want to read X Men, And that's why I'm
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so excited about it. I feel like they're showing off. I really do.
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Absolutely With every episode, I'm like, oh, okay, because you
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guys did not have to do that, but you did, and I thank
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you. Yeah. I mean, I think it's fun, and I will
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say that I have been thoroughly enjoying the first three episodes, I mean the
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jokes, the jokes were flying everywhere. I mean, it was perfect.
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Like I had initial misconception of what this would be when I first started,
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so I was taken aback at first, but then I fell into the groove,
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like, Okay, and I know where you guys are going with this,
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and it's giving camp. I love it, and it's it's giving camps,
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giving nostalgia and it's just and it's just also giving like creativity because I
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do like that, even though they're also going deeper into other stories that we
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didn't get to see before, like they're doing it in a little bit different
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way than we expected. So, like I said, I've been enjoying it.
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Did y'all like episodes one through three, NY, was it anything in
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particular where you were like that's horrible or did you think, oh no,
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this is perfect, even characters or even storyline. How they did it,
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I think they've nailed so much m hm. Even though I wasn't sure because
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Magneto the character designed for Magneto, I was like, Okay, it's giving
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disco poppy. I'm not sure where we're going with it. I love,
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but I really grew on me, but I'm also a Magneto. Sam Magneto
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Cander wrong and I will argue. I will argue the crowd. So for
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me, kind of seeing the character are comfortable in the Okay, I guess
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I'll be good because I'm here to fulfill the wishes. It was kind of
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nice to see that transition from the end of you know, the first episode
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into the second and the third. We did get a break from him this
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episode. But I think the writing has been phenomenal, the art has been
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great. I've just been gushing, like all I've been doing is talking about
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it because it really does. I don't know, it feels like we might
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get that old thing back, and I hate to be hopeful, but it
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just feels really good right now. Four episodes in, I think we're there.
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What about you, Jill? Yeah, I think something I really love
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about it is all the characters like feel really true to like the essence of
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who they are, Like when we finally got to see storms Striten her Omega
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level shit and oh when let me like a glass tornado because I'm a stunt
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ye. Yeah, I loved it, And like Magneto being all with his
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long monologues and being overly dramatic with his long hair. I'm like, this
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is this is Magneto, Like all he does is talk his shit and like
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feel very like preachy. But yeah, I just love that, like we
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get to see them and like a new adaptation, but like they're all feel
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very much their essence of like who they are. Absolutely absolutely I feel you.
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Okay, So let's get into episode four, the first part of it,
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and that was interesting. I don't maybe I wasn't paying attention. I
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didn't realize they were gonna put like basically two episodes this it's really one episode
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with the first seventy five percent is all about Jubilee and Roberto and then the
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last part is about Storm. But the Motendo side is where we get a
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lot of Jubilee. And I will say, in previous episodes that we covered,
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I had said, well, you know, I wonder if you're even
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gonna see Jubilee like that or they're gonna kind of pay her dust. Like
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I feel like my memories and I'm sure that they're biased, but I feel
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like in my memories, they didn't do There was maybe one or two episodes,
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but I feel like they didn't do a lot on the animation side anyway.
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So I was just like, Oh, they're gonna pay her dust again
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or we gonna get her and then literally this episode came out, so I
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was like, all right, that's cute. I like that y'all doing this
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at the same time. And I'm sure people will disagree with me this This
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may felt kind of filler to me, Like this part of it was.
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It was a Jubilee commercial, which was nice, but it's also just like
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it felt very sidequesty to me. Mm hmm. Yeah. I feel like
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in the old one, Jubilee is just like the whiny child that like they
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have and that's along everywhere, and I think like they tried to like do
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a spin on that. It's like, oh, like will she forever be
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the whiny child? No, she gotta grow. She has to like realize
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that she can't be a kid forever. It was like very peter Pan syndrome,
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like, oh, older Jubilee had to be like get it together,
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like you're grown up now, you're eighteen, Like you're a you gotta know
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what that means in the world. By now, that's all the stuff that
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you've been through, Like time to grow friends. I have to say I
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didn't really remember her much from the first go round either, She's not really
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a character I paid attention to a lot, So it was really cool to
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see that, Like, okay, so we might you know, we glimpses
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in the future of what we're seeing and yeah, showing that kind of coming
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of age where it's like, yeah, it's gave me. It's nerdy,
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but you're gonna eventually you're gonna have to make this choice between you know,
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being a kid. Which can we talk about how it was even possible that
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they got tricked by that video game that was very obviously evil and very obviously
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a trap. Did we miss the episode with the Clone baby Shenanigans? Like
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were we not at were we not paid attention? No, okay, it
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wouldn't be it wouldn't be camp and it wouldn't be X Men ninety seven.
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That didn't happen if you weren't this easily fooled by anything. I mean,
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I hadn't made the argument like in what episode one or two? I'm like,
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how did both Bishop and Storm get taken out by a little exploding generator
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or whatever it is and they and you're talking about the Mega level Mune it
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was like the hell idea of just picking and choosing when things actually matter,
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and it's just like, oh, she was excited to see a Nintendo sixty
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four in her room. She said, oh, snap, we got a
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game that was that, like a Floor sixty four Slash Genesis. Like I
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was just trying to figure out what that was. This whole approach was,
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I would say, because it was a cartridge, right, yeah, okay,
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I think there were probably nods to the game. But I never played
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the X Men game. No, no, no, uh wait a minute,
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like, no cap Converces x Men either, Yeah, PlayStation No,
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I was I was old. I was. I say, I was a
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late in life gamer. I didn't started living until I was like eighteen,
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so I missed the you know, I missed a really good old formative stuff.
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Oh no, you gotta go back and play or ever been like to
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Arcade in the movie theater where like they would have it or that's where it
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is. Okay. I remember playing the Little X Men game that looked just
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like it did on the show, where you're like scrolling around fighting the people
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on the street. And that's what I loved about just the motif of this
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episode, like from an art direction standpoint, it was it was gorgeous and
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it was amazing, and I liked how they jumped between a lot of different
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art styles, like obviously she got to your point and a stage. I
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don't understand how they got tricked like that, but they had. Regretto got
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sucked into a sixteen bit video game. So then you saw the sixteen bit
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style graphics right, and the typical gaming tropes like she even called them out,
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which is very you know, again, very funny, very great in
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terms of writing, and very good in terms of just having that humor to
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touch upon and and and share with the audience. But before we get into
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the game part, I didn't want to just mention and that we again we
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love Magneto. He is such a messy slut. That means, first of
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all, he's dressing and this is not sluss shame, and he is dressed
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like a slut. Let's be ca and I'm here for and he looks good,
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and that's the thing. He looks good doing it. But I also
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can't take him seriously when he's sitting there with like lace gloves and he's talking
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about that is not in my stature, and I don't do these things.
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I'm like, okay, house Mother, calm down, like I just he's
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a lot, and then with his monologues, but but I love him,
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so I just let him get away with murder. But that whole exchange between
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him, Rogue and Gambit where it was just more the continuation of all that
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messy the love. Now it will be a low triangle, the messy stuff
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that's been going on, and I I want to see more. I will
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say that I do agree, I want to see more, but it's also
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again it's just messy, and it's just like you don't need to do this,
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so I don't know it. It's an x Men if there isn't a
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messy love triangle, right, Like the X Men suck everybody. It's so
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incestuous in that group. They always groping, touched in love triangles, love
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quadrangles like everything. Yeah, yeah been. I mean on the last episodes
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he was and I agreed with him where we were just like, there's something
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more going on with what's the change the changeling. I can call him a
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changelinge guy more. If there's something going on with morph and Logan, there's
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some undertones there, there's some undertones, But is it I don't know,
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but I don't know if it's yearning or I don't know if it's like I
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need a father figure I don't know, or a daddy. Yeah, Like
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I don't know if it's I need a daddy or I need a daddy,
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you know, like I'm not not quite true sure the intonation your voice and
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the second daddy that that might be it. He turned into freaking Sabertooth,
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Like that is insane, Like if you listen to what have been had mentioned
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saber Tooth and then the stories is known for killing all of Logan's lovers,
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then you turn into him for for for ships and giggles and then y'all ropping
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in the grass together like there's that's all sex. I don't care what anybody
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says. That is his best see though, like I remember in the original
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season, like original series, when Morph died, like Logan was the one
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that took it the hardest. He was like you let Morph die? Like
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how did you let that happen? Sidebop so like they definitely have had like
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a history of like that's the homie. Okay, okay, well they turned
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up the other part of all that's a little more more. It'll be interesting
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to see where they where they take it. Mm hmmm. I like that
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they're overt about queer code things. It's not yes, it's not like hey
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maybe it's like no, this this is probably It's like yeah, probably,
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yeah, more than likely. And then this whole thing with Magneto, and
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he's going to be very caddy with Gambit, Poor Gambit. He doesn't deserve
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that. Man, it's is it? Is it? Poor Gambit. I
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mean right now they're kind of playing him to be the yeah just joined the
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threattle Gambit, like he can be three. I guess, I guess I
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just wanted to mention that because again, and we only but even though we
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only see these people very very briefly in the beginning Logan with his keiking over
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there, and then we get as mentioned, Jubilee thrown and in Roberto randomly
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thrown into this game. You said you didn't play, but I remember this
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like Mojo from Marvel versus Capcom and all those types of games, that was
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actually a playable character and also an enemy. It's I did like how they
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it was like, as you said, it was a I like how you
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explain it kind of Statia that it was a learning process for her, right,
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Like it was about, oh, you can't you know want even though
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it's very easy for things to say the same, you really want to grow
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and that's not life when you are stuck in one place. And I hope
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they continue that trend. I think it would be very easy to kind of
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fall into mirroring the old show in every single way, but there's so much
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opportunity to explore these characters in new ways and kind of actually take it forward
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because we have been kind of stuck in the cycles with the stories that we
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have seen from these franchises. But are we seeing growth and are we seeing
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art that's really holding up to the time. And I think that's what I've
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been enjoying so far about X Men, Like X Men has always been about
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that social commentary and what better time for a show like X Men to be
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on. So I'm also kind of looking to them to see like, hey,
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are you going to push the envelope? Are you going to kind of
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fall into comfort making sure that nobody is offended and everybody is you know,
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because it's already battling the the woke charges from the fanboys. It's already like,
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oh, X Men is so woke. I'm like, have you ever
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engaged with you know, whatever in your life? What the hell have you
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been all this time? Like have you been alive for X Men? Because
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it's kind of always business, but it's really nice to see I'm looking forward
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to that. Yeah. Yeah, speaking of Roberto, that is actually one
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of my qualms about X Men ninety seven. Oh so I just feel like,
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so I think like knowing the history of Roberto, especially as like an
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Afro Brazilian person, it's just it's just a little little whitewashed like he's he's
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real light. I looked at his voice actor. I was like, oh,
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he's a little paper baggy. Yeah. And it's like the history of
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Roberto actually is like his powers are activated because he's half black and half like
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whatever Latin Brazilian he is, and he's in a soccer game and like the
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other team is like like harassing him because he's black, and like as they
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like jump him, basically like his powers are activated, and so like that's
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a big part of who Roberto is and the way that like it's not even
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just X Men ninety seven, but like in so many of the X men
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adaptations like Roberto was always made this be made to be this like lighter,
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almost white Brazilian and that's not who he is and like that's also a big
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part of who he is and like how he embraces his like muteness, right,
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So, and I remember reading up about that, and because I didn't
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know much about his character, but I remember reading up about them. People
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were saying it like like he's not beating the whitewashing allegations, like this is
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a thing. But then now you're giving this backstory like oh and also just
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even thinking about his powers as sunspot right, like is that that's like a
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solar type? Is that like an energy and stuff like that, And it
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just seems like that would be very well suited for a more melanated individual.
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It's like why is Superman by when he's getting his powers from the sun,
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So he's a Kryptonian that's all. Yeah, yeah, but but but but
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but is here on Earth. Maybe I don't even know if this is Earth
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six one six, but he's here on Earth, so I don't know,
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But good point, Joel. And also I wanted to actually tap on you
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because you made a note about how so much there's so much nineties nostalgia in
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this episode. I mean, obviously the whole nineties ninety seven, but this
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particularly, Can you talk about that a little bit? Yeah, I just
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felt like there were so many little nods to like the nineties, Like when
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Older Jubilee first appeared and they're like, who is this like hot topic?
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And I had to look it up. I was like, what's hot topic
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around back then? And then nine dang it was very personally attacked. How
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topping is still there? First of all, how topic was the little spot
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and it's and like if you bored and you happen to be animalal and is
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there shirts yeah, if you were allowed in. You know, my my
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Christian parents did not let me go into that. That was the devil.
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When I was a kidding all suffered pain, pain, We just have compensation.
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My mom didn't let me either. She was like that it's kind of
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demonized in there. And then come to find out it's just a bunch of
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like sixteen year olds that are bored. But okay, so yes, the
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hot topic stuff. And then there was the like little flashes of like a
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different world. Yeah, yeah, I forgot what the other one was like.
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But I was like, oh, look at these little nineties callbacks.
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They did a different world and they did another one not living single shouts out
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to Stephi will Stephanie Williams, the comic book writer, but they did another
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one another, Like I thought it was like another black sitcom they did.
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I don't remember. I'm sure it'll pop up again, but no, I
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do love the callbacks and like, even there was something I mentioned like in
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another it might have been rebirth though, like he was like, like the
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last episode, he was leaving or he was going on someplace and Julie was
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like, well, how can I find you? He was like just page
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me, and I was like page. I was just like, wait a
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minute, I forgot what year this is? Like what are y'all talking about?
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But I do like that there's true to it. Obviously, they're true
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to the design, They're true to the nineties in terms of the fashions and
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the hair and all that other stuff. And then it just fits in so
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well, especially with this episode that's very again Sega Genesis NCC four coded love
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it. We do get like again, I did feel like, even though
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it was nice to see her, I did feel this a little bit filler,
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so I was just likekind of like, let's get through this. Like
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I don't know, was that the only one who felt that way or did
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you like, was like really into this? I like it, but it
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was definitely I feel like something to change the pace. It started off very
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heavy, things got really rough. Okay, they don't shot up Storm Magneto
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then took the un to outer space in the middle of it was a lot,
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so it was I think it was a cute reset to change the pace
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and to give everybody some time to cool off. And also I feel like
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a lot happened, but it didn't feel as heavy even though a lot still
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happened, because you did get you know, some development. The kiddos got
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their kiss off. I don't know why that man told Storm he loved them,
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and can we can I say, like, we need to bring back
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Real Yearners episode three and four. You kissing and you in love? You
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just met her episode ago, you don't know her, and we're gonna get
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there. I thought that was quite a jump. It felt it felt stalker,
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but I was just like, okay, like it was cute and was
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like, wait a minute, how did we get from point eighty point b
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and then again we don't also don't know how long Storm has been with him,
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right, because where do you say he found her in Texas or whatever?
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And now you know they've been chilling. I don't. We don't know
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how long they've been. But but but you know, we'll we'll get to
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that. Anything else, just typically to mention about Jubilee's side of this album,
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this record, the Motendo side of the record, saday Oh, I
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thought that was interesting, Mojo, like, yes, I love the voice
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actor for him. It was great. Yeah, it was very It was
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very fun. It was like that gleeful kind of evil, and I really
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think it suited the character design. Really. I really enjoyed it. Yes,
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and the whole thing about being so focused on ratings and got to make
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shows and something that I was just like, I felt like I've seen this
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character before in other shows. But to your point, it was illustrated very
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well. We did get another East Egg Spiral appeared again. We did see
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morph turnings of Spiral like as a gag like an episode or two back.
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And then I just wanted to say the character design for future do Belee beautiful
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love love love that as they call it. She called her hot topics talker
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but but no, but like she she looks so good, and I you
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know, I liked that she was there, Like you never know when they
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when they say, you know, what, would you tell your future self
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or your future self could tell your young self something to help them get through
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their life, or would you tell them I felt it was very much that.
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And then also getting to see you believe like powers explore more. Oh,
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let me just show you a little light show like you actually shows that
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she can do some damage when she like puts her mind to it, and
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I think that was really cool to see. Yeah, definitely love the creative
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problem solving. I like that so far you're not bored by anyone's powers,
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even though you've seen them use them. Of team times, Scott using his
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lasers to shift to the other side of the room, I was like,
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ooh, that's hot. Do it again. Yeah, you know, like
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doing something like that too, Like, yeah, it was. It was
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very fun. And then sort of like the charge up to like you know,
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they're showing that they know how to work as a team, so even
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though we haven't seen them in a while, we can kind of chart their
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growth to be like, Okay, they know how to strategize. They're not
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overly dependent on Xavier. They're still doing what they have to do and making
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it work. It's not a perfect situation, but they're making it work.
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And I love that that. You know, you don't need the one guy.
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You know, Gene isn't there, so they might lose. Storm lost
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her power, so they might lose you know, Shorty got sucked into a
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video game, so no one knows what's gonna happen. Everyone's kind of holding
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their own and figuring their own story out instead of letting the bleed over,
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you know, knock everything down. And I do. I guess I love
25:21
that. I'm here for all the character girl. Yeah, you are absolutely
25:25
right when it comes to how they've been displaying their powers, like they they're
25:27
much more creative than I remember them being, at least in the animation.
25:33
And I will say I've always also been the one to be like jubilees useless,
25:37
just because I always thought it was just it's literally just firecrackt as fireworks,
25:42
Like what is that supposed to do? And then even like and I
25:45
could tell like they they and maybe she was nerved back in the day.
25:49
Her powers really are much more stronger than we think because even in the game,
25:53
like she was doing her little blast, she was hitting Sentinels and Sentinel
25:59
was like actually feeling it, and I'm like okay, And then I love
26:03
love when she did that like power sharing kind of move with Future Jubilee,
26:07
like like regul juliefu Julie when and I call it like they did a destructo
26:11
disc and a spirit mom. It was all DBZ coded and I loved it.
26:15
They just they just they did very well with that. So there were
26:18
some there were some cool things that happened. So, but I will say
26:22
I do love seeing them do different things with the powers that it is beyond
26:26
what we even thought that they could could do. Right, So, I
26:29
like you mentioned Cyclops, I felt like when he did that, people were
26:33
like, wait a minute, was there some story where he did that,
26:37
Like is there something that backs that up? But then it's just like,
26:40
well, even if there is or isn't, it doesn't matter, like you
26:42
can it makes sense, right, So and that's all I like. I
26:47
like the fact that even though you've never seen it before or you're not sure
26:49
of can they really do that, it still makes sense. Hmm. And
26:52
their powers are a part of them, so like as you get older,
26:55
you learn how to use a part of you in like different ways that benefit
26:59
you. Yeah. Absolutely absolutely. Then we had into she wins at Then
27:06
okay, great, move it away. We head into the life death part
27:11
one part of the story and like I felt, I mean, I continuously
27:19
keep feeling worse and worse for Storm. I mean, obviously this is a
27:22
major story arc of hers from the comics. And then we get some really
27:27
iconic panel shots of her from the comics. Again about this whole situation she
27:33
goes through where she really does lose her powers and it's finding herself and to
27:37
get see this in an animation form and again just beautiful animation work. And
27:41
to see the pain in her eyes and like to have truly have something you
27:47
feel is your core being being ripped from you, like on some violated type
27:53
stuff like that. That was beyond sad for me. And to see her
27:57
like even you've seen a little bit you seen her trying to deal with it,
28:02
like it, I just felt very emotional for her. Yeah, I
28:07
hate that I had to be her, Like I know that, I know
28:11
this is an art, but did we really, man? I did I
28:12
have to see this as soon as she jumped, and I was like,
28:15
oh my baby, and I was just like, you know, we've come
28:22
a long way because they got her. You know, they got her skin
28:25
tone right, they got her hair right, her voice actor love her.
28:29
I'm just like, please, I couldn't have storn for a good three or
28:33
four episodes before you snatched her powers like that. I know, these black
28:38
women in front of guns for white people, it's giving racism. Uh yeah,
28:45
Monica, Yeah, but I don't know, but I will get I
28:51
gave them again. I just gave them a you know. I was just
28:53
like, I give them a pass because I said, okay, this is
28:56
cannon whatever. I still also didn't want to see it. Yeah, so
29:03
let's talk about Forge. You mentioned about him just immediately loving her after two
29:07
minutes, and I mean the fact he's a huge simp and I thought it
29:12
was kind of cute, but I was like, well, is he also
29:17
using her like as a miacopa for all of his past transgressions? Want to
29:22
be Captain saber Hoo, Like he was like, oh, here's a girl
29:26
that I caused her problems. Let me let me save her and then she'll
29:30
just go into my arms and we'll be happily ever after. It's like,
29:33
that's not how it works for and not with stormat if anybody like, that's
29:37
not how it works a period and too many men think that that's the way,
29:41
but that's not how it works. And it's more so like if she
29:45
could forgive me, I can forgive myself because if you really were about doing
29:51
things the right way, you would have just told her. Because you cannot
29:55
get an unethical outcome with an unethical approach. It just doesn't work. So
30:02
it doesn't really matter. And I think that's kind of what Magneto's lesson has
30:06
always been before, where it's like, hey, you have beautiful ideas,
30:11
love you, love you, babe. How you're going about it absolutely ridiculous.
30:17
You cannot do that. Yeah, So when he was explaining, he
30:21
was like, well, if I told the truth when it came with me,
30:23
and that's a risk you have to be willing to take because now you've
30:27
broken trust. So now you're you have two things down. Instead of just
30:33
being the guy that created these devices that could possibly help me, now it's
30:38
the guy that created these devices that could possibly help me that lied to me,
30:44
who is now telling me that he's in love with me. But he
30:47
waited to tell me those two things together. It's not like it's yeah,
30:55
you're you're not you're not building trust, but like you're you're the op and
30:59
right so, and I think you cannot control how people react to you when
31:03
you wrong them, and wanting to control that reaction of itself is an issue.
31:08
You should have just been straight up. Of course she might have been
31:11
mad. That's the correct response. It's messed up what you did. You
31:15
got to eat that. If you can help, you should be trying to
31:19
help anyway. Get to build into device babes, because she's not going to
31:23
be the only one affected. You know that this weapon is out there,
31:26
what's the hold up? His other excuse was that it was just his He
31:33
drew up the schematics basically, but he ain't really build it. It was
31:37
some guy in Sweden or whatever country he blamed it on. But at the
31:41
end of the day, it's on you. You're forged. You're the genius
31:45
level intellect that can build damn or anything or maybe anything. This is on
31:48
you. I just felt like he was always I kind of like trying to
31:52
throw the blame elsewhere. It was like this is where she said, like
31:59
you about people should know the parents of trusting the people in Washington, and
32:01
it's like, so you're a Native American, like you know the history of
32:07
how your people have trusted white men in Washington to do the right thing for
32:12
you, and over and over again they have sucked you over, so like
32:15
Storre almost like, girl, you should know that these are not the people
32:19
to trust, like pokemonas these white men are dangerous, Like we don't do
32:22
that, Like you should have known better, and then you left without like
32:27
taking a shit with you, like if I had left up and like,
32:29
oh, I'm racing the hard drives. No one's getting any of my plans,
32:31
like right, thinking that to go are at the very least you say,
32:37
hey, I'm the one who built these plans. This shit is wrong.
32:42
We need to fix this. You don't get to kind of be a
32:45
genius and just kind of like hide your hands and be like, well I
32:50
didn't I wasn't actually the one that did it. I didn't actually shoot her
32:53
with it cool, but without you, it wouldn't exist. So you should
32:58
be part of the solution, and it shouldn't wait until you're thrust into this
33:02
situation. Of course you fell in love with Storm. Who wouldn't. That's
33:06
not a big no, you know, big woop there. But you should
33:09
have already been working on this. You should have been looking for people who
33:13
could have built it. And that's why she slapped shit out of him,
33:16
like no, I love that, Like I you know, I have my
33:22
misgivings about other simps in the series. I e. Scott Summers. I
33:25
don't like him. Got is such a bitch, Okay, but we'll talk
33:30
about that at the time. Yes, I do not like the nigga come
33:35
at me in the comments. We'll talk about it later. But I don't
33:38
know, like and and the other thing that was weird and and and Storm
33:45
mentioned this about like where they were, like where exactly were they lived in
33:50
Arizona and the Grand Canyon something like that, there in some weird place because
33:55
Texas. Oh they aren't textings, but where are they in two texts her
34:00
in some weird like negazone because Storm made a comment about the wind always blowing
34:06
east and that's why this eagle keeps circling around. It doesn't he doesn't leave
34:09
right. And she was talking about how nothing everything stays the same, and
34:12
then I think towards the end of the episode where we it's revealed that there's
34:17
this big villain, I called it a Baltimore Raven, but Joel corrected me.
34:22
It was like it's it's the adversary, you know, reveals like like
34:29
like you see you see Storm riding off, like before the villain comes.
34:31
You see her riding off because she she's upset with four Slap the shit out
34:35
of him, get the fuck out my face. She goes off, you
34:38
know, listening to the river Dance on Beyonce's album. And then and then
34:44
she basically tumbles down a ditch, but she doesn't fall into you know,
34:49
and and and you know die. She falls back into the house. And
34:53
I'm just like, like, you know, like some weird like funhouse type
34:57
situation where you don't really leave, everything stays the same, and I'm just
35:00
like, are they caught up in something and don't know it? Or I
35:04
mean, which makes me think like maybe Forge did fix Storm's powers, but
35:08
like where they are, she can't feel the wind because there's no weather there,
35:13
and so like maybe that's what's going on. Is like the Adversary has
35:17
been some weird like bubble world and Storm actually can do her shit again.
35:22
But because of like where they are, there's there's no atmosphere for her to
35:25
control, and that's why she can't feel It makes sense. I would love
35:30
for that to be the truth. Now watch them do exactly the opposite next
35:32
week. But I don't know. I just when she said that, and
35:37
then I was like watching the rest, I was like, wait a minute,
35:39
this is strange. Are they where they say they are? But whatever?
35:46
Who what? There was some more easter eggs in this. Oh yeah,
35:52
Joel, you had a note about the easter eggs. Oh yeah,
35:55
Ford sold like Storm like you better than anybody's should know how fast the weather
36:00
can change. And I was like, where have I heard that before?
36:02
And I looked it up. It was Charles said that to Storm and X
36:06
Men The Last Stand? And I was like, oh, cut like switching
36:08
out lines between your adaptation. Okay, did y'all did y'all like X Men
36:13
Last Stand? Did y'all like the fox otitious? I like two out of
36:19
all of them if I had to pay, You know, they're not so
36:24
beautiful gowns. Oh okay, beautiful coup what I mean obviously? I mean,
36:34
because that's just the way the story is going to go. Obviously,
36:36
Storm's going to forgive this man, forgive, not forget right, And but
36:44
also in the commons, they have a very contentious relationship anyway, Like you
36:49
know, again Ben Ben was sharing that when we were it's just like their
36:51
relationship is kind of fucked up anyway. So I guess it's fitting that again
36:55
within five minutes he's like, I love you, but I'm also just like
37:00
it feels also very toxic, and I'm concerned. I'm concerned because again Storm
37:06
is in a very vulnerable spot and now you with this toxic asthma who says
37:10
he wants to help, but then like you got to deal with his emotional
37:13
trauma too. I don't know, It's not always how it goes so and
37:20
I hate that, generally speaking, women female characters generally have to put aside
37:29
whatever it is that they're feeling for the greater goods, and usually that thing
37:34
that they're putting aside is their hurt, their pain, or disrespect. I
37:42
feel like we always have to make that choice where it's like we know that
37:46
there is no way that this should happen, but we also know that Force
37:52
is a character in this world yeah, and we know that chances are and
38:00
we're already we're already like we have two low triangles mm hmm. We got
38:07
the two youngsters making out on the video. Yeah, and like I said
38:13
earlier, bring back Yarany. Yeah, the two divorces in the other room,
38:16
who wherever they are, Magneto and Rode being weird in the training room,
38:22
like you know, there's a lot happening. There's a lot happening,
38:28
Okay, And obviously, like this is limited episodes, I'm gonna say,
38:30
how long is it going to take Forged to fix this? The tardest he
38:35
threw in before did not work, So what now? How is this going
38:38
to happen? And how they're gonna get out of this situation with the adversary
38:45
thesodes are moving fast. Yeah, I don't know that it's gonna take that
38:49
long. And I did read today that they they bought season three, so
38:54
we're getting a season three. I know. I'm I'm not here for the
39:00
Scott Wolverine Jeanie Gray, not that much yearning some somewhere in the middle,
39:09
so you're gonna get there at the end of season one. I hope that
39:14
we see Storm getting her powers back, but I do appreciate that it's not
39:17
an immediate fix. I appreciate that there is some more there, and I
39:25
hope that we do get to see a continuation of whatever is going on with
39:30
Techno Clone Baby Noble. That's right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like
39:44
I said, there's a lot happening, which is weird because they've met Cable
39:47
in the old series. Yeah, that's what I was like, I recalled
39:52
the meaning unless he like erased the memories or something like that, or this
39:57
is just a different version, you know how you know again the multiverse,
40:00
this is just a different version of what they've been done. But doesn't make
40:04
sense though, because you believe and other people recall stuff that's happened back in
40:07
the original Yeah, so okay, whatever it is, what it is.
40:16
I do know that we do get a few other episodes, maybe one or
40:22
two more episodes before we get Life def Part two, which I presume has
40:25
to be the conclusion of this very condensed arc. They even did that,
40:30
like even with the whole Madeline prior thing, Like I was like, that's
40:34
a jump, like for the whole Clone thing, and all of a sudden,
40:37
when you said, what's your name? She gives a very specific call
40:40
me Maddeline Prior. That's a very specific thought out name, Like you know,
40:45
like if someone just says, what's your stripper name, You're gonna be
40:47
sitting there for at least ten minutes to try to figure it out. So
40:50
it just seems very unlikely to me that that would happen. But you know,
40:54
this is the this is TV magic. You gotta do what you gotta
40:57
do. We are not going to have too much time with all these characters.
41:01
But I do appreciate you said we're gonna get it. Well, obviously
41:05
we get an episode season two, but we're gonna get it season three as
41:07
well. They do y'all want more episodes right now? I think it's only
41:14
they're only having ten episodes this season. Do y'all want Do you think they
41:16
need more episode? Do you think they need more time? Longer episodes or
41:20
everything's perfect? I wish for longer episodes, but I also feel like if
41:25
we got a longer episode with the heaviness of say the first three episodes,
41:30
that might be overkilled. So even though it always leaves you wanting more,
41:37
I think that's the perfect place to be in with it, just so that
41:42
they don't, I think overdo it and they can paste the writing and really
41:46
think about how they want to flesh out the story. Because guarantee three seasons,
41:52
that's still thirty episodes. I don't need twenty twenty episodes. I'm okay,
41:59
give me ten good episodes though, as long as there's ten good ones,
42:02
M yeah, I think for me, Like, I'm just kind of
42:07
curious, like where is this going with everything? Like is this eventually gonna
42:13
connect to other stuff? Which, like if it does, cool, but
42:16
like I'm also happy if it's just like its own universe and we just get
42:20
to have like the X Men in their own bubble. But it's like what
42:23
are you What are y'all's plans for this? Like I just need to know
42:27
so that I can be like invested in whatever it is. Like I'm happy
42:30
if like the X Men just get their own thing. They don't need to
42:34
be involved with all the shenanigans happen in the live action stuff and it's like
42:37
they deal with their problems and that's it and that's cool. But like if
42:42
this is going to connect to other stuff, like rip the band aid already
42:45
so that I can get to the good stuff. Of the X Men,
42:49
which is like the stuff we're kind of seeing now, which is like if
42:52
their own problems, their own issues, like they're solving their own things,
42:54
and it doesn't have to do with all the random other stuff happening in the
42:58
world, right I do. I initially did feel like, you know,
43:01
this is gonna connect to the MCU at some point and to live action,
43:07
but then I'm like, really, right now, the MCU is not in
43:09
the best spot, and they actually have a lot of rebuilding and rebuilding of
43:14
trust to do. And I actually, you know, some of the more
43:19
recent movies, I actually enjoyed it to varying degrees, but overall, like
43:24
they don't have that sparkling reputation that it once had right where it was just
43:29
like, yo, we got the connect and Joel's fading off into the moon.
43:32
I'll let you, I'll let you put on a lighter sting. But
43:37
it's actually I agree with y'all or you, Joe. I don't actually want
43:44
them to even deal with that at all, Like if it could be its
43:47
own bubble, fin I let it be in its owne bubble. But I
43:50
feel like, especially if when they start redeeming a live action they're gonna make
43:53
it connect at some point. I mean they threw Monica. I mean that
43:58
was the Fox version, but they do Monica in like, We've got a
44:04
lot of cameos, and I don't think I want them to connect it,
44:08
okay, because here's the thing. I feel like X Men has the same
44:13
issue that DC has. Your lane is animation. Stay there, bang out
44:21
the animations. Give us some amazing animated movies. Hey put the animated movies
44:25
in the movie theater. We'll go buy We'll buy the ticket. I will
44:29
go. They know that's not a problem. But the issue is when they
44:34
are trying to be Marvel. X Men has never really been able to find
44:39
its identity fleshed out in the live action and whenever the animated series does good
44:47
or the game does good, or people get nostalgic for X Men, they
44:52
do a live action movie that we don't acknowledge. They do a live action
44:58
movie where they get one thing right and most things wrong. Have a question
45:02
for you, then, do you think that's just a symptom of just the
45:07
type of stories these are about and having an issue just having not being good
45:14
at translating it, or do you think this is Fox's fault because remember Fox
45:17
was doing all this the movies anyway, all this time, and then now
45:22
you know, now Marvel got it. So do you think that things can
45:25
change. I think they really have to commit to what works. It's okay
45:34
to not be Marvel, And I think right now the interest is in replicating
45:39
that. It is in creating an expansive world in exactly the same way.
45:45
They always start with the movies and Batman's done it. And every time the
45:50
movies don't, it doesn't take off the way that they expect it to.
45:53
They give it two years and they start it over. It doesn't work.
45:58
The stories are darker, they're messier. It gets really weird and awkward when
46:05
that's on the big screen. Yeah. Yeah, the audience is not going
46:09
to be as wide. It's not as palatable for everyone. You're not going
46:15
to be able to have a lot of rated e for everyone shows. It's
46:20
just not And you have to be okay with that. You have to be
46:22
okay with saying our strength is writing really good character development. Our strength is
46:30
seeing things through the end. Our strength is a callback from you know,
46:34
you have to build your own strengths. But instead it's why can't you love
46:39
us like you love Marvelous like Babes. I don't want to see the messy
46:45
love triangle in a movie over eight years. I don't. I don't either.
46:51
I don't. I'm completely done with that. Yeah, But the animated
46:54
series it's great, it's lovely. I hope they spend time important energy into
47:01
continuing too deepen that world. So, like Joel, I really hope they
47:06
keep it as their own standalone thing because it does deserve that attention. It
47:10
does deserve. The writing has been great, it's been great. They really
47:16
just need to stick to what works, Okay, And I would say,
47:22
when it comes to the remainder of x N ninety seven season and even beyond,
47:27
where would y'all like to see them pour more energy into? Is there
47:30
a particular storyline you want them to jump into? Do you want them when
47:34
you want to see certain places in the more recent comm it's certain people.
47:38
For the more recent comm it's like, what would you like to see?
47:45
I mean, I feel like I, like many people would love to see
47:47
curcoa, but I don't know how they would fit that in. You know,
47:52
I'd love to see a health fire dollar just for the gowns, like
47:54
I want to see everyone stunt in their outfits. Also just like a big
48:00
heart hot spot for Apocalypse and like I just want to see big daddy a
48:05
walk up and be like, what's up, y'all? Like it's me the
48:07
first welcome. Oh that's a good one. I would love to see apocalypse.
48:12
What about you, Insidia? Yeah, I think for me there x
48:15
men has great feelings and I would I would love to see how they would
48:21
use them now. But honestly, just happy to be here. I'm really
48:25
happy to be here. I'm I'm going to smile and wave for whatever I
48:30
get. Yeah, and that's my thing. I'm so happy with what I'm
48:37
getting. And again I'm open to whatever it turns into because I'm happy for
48:40
it to be its own thing. Yeah, and I do hope the and
48:45
I'm sorry, Like the one who helped create all this he got ousted.
48:49
I don't know why. I know the rumors have been some you know,
48:53
sexual assault type thing, and it could be I don't know, but I
49:00
would say, whoever comes in next and the team that comes in next to
49:02
like really ride the wave of this, because I'm always concerned that when something
49:07
is so well received like this, and then you have that pressure of replicating
49:13
that over and over again. And then sometimes you have this insurmountable level that
49:19
you have to meet or exceed, and when you do minute, you're like,
49:23
it can be one hundred percent. Maybe you got to ninety five percent,
49:25
people are like, oh, it's trash, and I'm I am concerned
49:30
about that. Like sometimes when this stuff is so so good, and then
49:32
you are expecting the world right the next time around, and and honestly,
49:37
it's it's a catch twenty two. It's like, yeah, you're good,
49:39
so I expect you to be good right next time around. But then it's
49:44
also like sometimes I feel like it generates unrealistic expectations out of the audience as
49:50
well. So then please just have people of color in that writing room,
49:54
Like The Excellent is just such a story about marginalized people like only us can
50:00
tell like their experiences and like how it is to be in this world.
50:05
Mm hmmm. Absolutely, And I mean we do have writers of color that
50:09
are in this season, which so I feel like it shows where it needs
50:14
to show. But again, I'm just hoping that that this continues on as
50:19
we as we progress and as we grow and I'm I don't know, I'm
50:23
excited about this. I'm excited about this. I agree with y'all. Let's
50:27
let's keep it here. Probably just keep it on TV too. I don't
50:30
even know if I want to see in the theater, to be honest with
50:31
you, but yeah, like I don't even want them to get ideas,
50:35
like I'm so sorry I said that out loud like that. Yeah, you
50:40
could do like an animated movie, like like an Age of Apocalypse, kind
50:46
of like little amianated animal feature that would be locally, but I don't need
50:51
the live action. Yeah, okay, okay, all right, all right,
50:57
okay. I hope so also that they know when to call it,
51:00
because I think that is also the detriment of a lot of good shows,
51:06
where because it's been good, they're going to keep, you know, pouring
51:12
into it, but the time has passed or what the show came to do
51:16
has already been accomplished. So I hope they also know when to say,
51:21
hey, you know, we wanted to give you X Men ninety seven and
51:25
thank you for watching X Men ninety seven, and here's the next thing that
51:30
we're working on that's very smart and that's very hard for a lot of people,
51:35
especially when things make money that it's like we're just gonna keep going to
51:37
the ship goes down capitalism. Well, on that note, thank you all
51:43
for watching us. Next week we are going to be reviewing episode five titled
51:50
Remember It. We're gonna see some Genosha action, some un action, and
51:55
also stuff back at the Mansion, so we'll see how that goes. Is
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going to be drama, and I'm here for you know, I'm a messy
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bitch and I live for the drama, so I'm excited for that. But
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before we go, please and Joel you can start. Just let everyone know
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where they can find you if you want to share anything you're working on or
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whatever it is. Sure, I'm only on Instagram because Twitter is a little
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too messy for men. Can't get involved in that. So you can follow
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me at Joe Light ninety one j O E. L I T E nine
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to one. You can come watch my flute playing videos and making some music
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videos. And I have some other stuff in the work. So if you
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follow me, you'll see the things that come out. We have to repost
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your flute of the X Men intro, the theme you played that, it
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was very it was very nice too. I was like, thank you,
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excellent, Anastasia. Please tell everyone where to find you and everything you're working
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on you want to share. Well. I am at chasing lucks on Twitter.
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I am I'm the messy Yeah, I'm the messy word girl. So
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I'm on a Twitter girl. But you can find me anywhere chasing lugs.
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I'm always talking shit, reading books and looking for good content. Excellent,
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