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Zack Moss on Utah coming off a bye week, White out Saturday night vs Kansas, Morgan Scalley's new demeanor as head coach + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 3: From the Murdoch Hyundai.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to The Sean O'Connell Show. Welcome in Zach Moss,
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  Speaker 1: the Utah football legend, NFL veteran.
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  Speaker 2: Zach, welcome to the show again. How are you, sir?
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  Speaker 3: Doing good, doing good. Thank you guys for having me on.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, what did you do with your, your bi-week Saturday
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  Speaker 2: this past weekend?
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  Speaker 3: Uh, not too much, not too much.
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  Speaker 4: Just hung out at home and enjoy some quiet.
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  Speaker 1: So team back in action this weekend, another night game
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  Speaker 1: at rice cycle stadium against Kansas. And, uh, I guess
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  Speaker 1: this applies to Kansas, but it applies to every team
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  Speaker 1: right now in the You're either four games or five
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  Speaker 1: games into your season here.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, I think.
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  Speaker 1: For a lot of these teams, we kind of know
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  Speaker 1: what to expect. We know what they are, but also
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  Speaker 1: not because competition has been odd. You've played in Kansas's case,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of like really non-factor teams, FCS team, middle
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee state. You've lost the games against power four teams,
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  Speaker 1: but you looked really, really good against middle Tennessee state.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that is something we could translate
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  Speaker 1: to Utah. So yeah, When you're watching film in a
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  Speaker 1: week like this and you can only evaluate the sample
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  Speaker 1: size of the four games that the Kansas Jayhawks have
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  Speaker 1: played or that the Utes have played, how do you
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  Speaker 1: know what is what that team really is and what
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  Speaker 1: is kind of like an outlier?
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  Speaker 5: Obviously, like you said, the schedule that they've played, they
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  Speaker 5: haven't really truly had a outrageous schedule. So, you know,
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  Speaker 5: but they look good in certain things that you kind
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  Speaker 5: of want to see when you talk about the capabilities
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  Speaker 5: that good teams have.
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  Speaker 3: They've been able to show.
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  Speaker 5: Those in different ways and win in different styles. I
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  Speaker 5: think the Iowa State game was the biggest thing. because
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  Speaker 5: Iowa State is a sneaky, weird team, as you kind
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  Speaker 5: of saw, versus I think they played West Virginia, if
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  Speaker 5: I'm not mistaken. And, you know, we bottled up their
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  Speaker 5: running back extremely, extremely well, especially in the first half.
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  Speaker 5: And then he went off to have just a spectacular game. So,
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  Speaker 5: you know, when you see stuff like that, right, and
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  Speaker 5: I think.
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  Speaker 3: His name was Aiden something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Aiden Flora, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and, you know, to see something like that and
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  Speaker 5: the way that the youth had to respond in the
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  Speaker 5: second half, right, obviously dominating the first half on both
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  Speaker 5: sides of the ball, had some pushback going back and forth,
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  Speaker 5: some adversity, and then to put the game away right
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  Speaker 5: on the road, I think that's the biggest thing when
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  Speaker 5: you talk about, you know, the schedule hasn't been anything
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  Speaker 5: to really, really blink at, but at the same time,
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  Speaker 5: they've won in different ways. They've won in different ways.
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  Speaker 5: They've shown they can do that. And that's the type
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  Speaker 5: of stuff you've got to see when you get into
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  Speaker 5: the thick of the Big 12 conference play.
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  Speaker 1: Coming back off a bye week, what's got to be
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  Speaker 1: the main focus for a team that got to rest
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  Speaker 1: up a little bit, got to lift a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more maybe, put some muscle back on, eat good, rest good,
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  Speaker 1: and now you're starting off your week with practices again
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  Speaker 1: to get back into your routine. What's the biggest challenge
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  Speaker 1: of getting back into that season routine after the bye
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  Speaker 1: week breaks it?
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  Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing is to, you know, the
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  Speaker 5: conditioning is probably the hardest thing. Getting back, you know,
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  Speaker 5: that's a long week off. Essentially, you know, obviously not
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  Speaker 5: exactly sure on every single thing that they did up
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  Speaker 5: there during the bye week. But, you know, from my
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  Speaker 5: past and dealing with bye weeks, you know.
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  Speaker 3: You still.
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  Speaker 5: You know, practice a little bit on injuries and who's
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  Speaker 5: banged up, who's not banged up, things like that. But,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I think the main thing is to getting
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  Speaker 5: back into that groove of things.
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  Speaker 3: And they've been pretty groovy.
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  Speaker 5: Offensively and defensively so far and continue to find that fire. But,
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  Speaker 5: you know, definitely not worried about that because that's where,
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  Speaker 5: you know, you talk about the coaching staff and things
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  Speaker 5: of that nature and the strength staff and keeping these
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  Speaker 5: guys ready to go, keeping them motivated mentally and physically. So,
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  Speaker 5: you know, we really don't have a big issue coming
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  Speaker 5: out of.
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  Speaker 4: A bye week. So looking forward to that to continue
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  Speaker 4: to be the same trend.
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  Speaker 1: How do you, feel about momentum game to game week
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  Speaker 1: to week obviously momentum exists in games right uh but
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  Speaker 1: week to week do you believe are you a believer
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  Speaker 1: in momentum in this case it would have been momentum
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  Speaker 1: interrupted by a week off sometimes it's bad momentum you
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  Speaker 1: want to stop with a week off but is there
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  Speaker 1: even such a thing when you know your games are
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  Speaker 1: separated by six or seven days.
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  Speaker 3: Um, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you never know with momentum, it can swing, uh,
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  Speaker 5: real fast. Um, you know, but I think that's the
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  Speaker 5: part where it comes to the coaches, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 5: how they structure practice during.
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  Speaker 4: The bi-week, right?
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  Speaker 5: It's not like these guys are taking an absolute, uh,
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  Speaker 5: whole week off of just away from football right it's
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  Speaker 5: not where they don't live they don't watch film um
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  Speaker 5: you know and then i'm sure we have guys that
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  Speaker 5: you know um are really dedicated to their crafts so
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  Speaker 5: i i'm for sure that you know during the bye
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  Speaker 5: week these guys are still getting together without the coaches
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  Speaker 5: right and you know and trying to enjoy their time
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  Speaker 5: off at the same time and get healthy, but just,
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  Speaker 5: you know, doing the same things that they need to
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  Speaker 5: do to continue to stay in that rhythm and stay
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  Speaker 5: in that flow of all the things that have given
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  Speaker 5: them the type of momentum that they've carried through the
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  Speaker 5: first four weeks of playing. Because, you know, obviously this
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  Speaker 5: Kansas team is going to come in and give them.
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  Speaker 4: A fight for sure. And you can't start slow. um,
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  Speaker 4: come up about a week.
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes that's, that's a big issue with teams coming up
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  Speaker 5: about a week. It's starting slow and we've started fast
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  Speaker 5: offensively each and every week. So to your point about momentum, um,
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  Speaker 5: definitely got to keep that momentum of starting fast, uh,
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  Speaker 5: and has to show up this week again.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of starting fast, it's, it's been coming out of
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  Speaker 1: the halftime break that this Utah team seems to slow
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. They seem to fall asleep a little
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  Speaker 1: bit at halftime. And I think that's part of human nature.
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  Speaker 1: It's a little bit natural when especially you're carrying big
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  Speaker 1: leads as they have in all of their first four
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  Speaker 1: games this season. But the third quarter has been the
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  Speaker 1: least productive quarter for this University of Utah football team,
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  Speaker 1: both on the offensive side of the ball and on
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  Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball.
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  Speaker 2: Ultimately, it doesn't matter because they're all wins.
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  Speaker 1: But when you've got extra time to study film and
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  Speaker 1: to self-scout during a bye week, it's maybe that's something
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  Speaker 1: that you identify. And we've talked about this before, like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, third quarter, how do you make sure that
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  Speaker 1: your third quarter is just as good as your first
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  Speaker 1: quarter if you're Zach Moss?
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  Speaker 5: I think for me, it goes back to you know,
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  Speaker 5: the way you structure practice, right? You know, obviously coming
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  Speaker 5: off being in a bi-week week and being.
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  Speaker 3: Early, you know, I wasn't, I kind.
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  Speaker 5: Of sucked being in a bi-week coming off of week four, man, when,
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  Speaker 5: you know, your body is just starting to, you know,
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  Speaker 5: get used to playing football again after being months off.
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  Speaker 5: But to me, it's all about practice, right? You practice
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  Speaker 5: how you play. And, you know, the coaching staff is
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  Speaker 5: putting these guys in the right, situations uh in practice
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  Speaker 5: right because football is all about situations and that's one
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  Speaker 5: thing i've learned is you know and been uh taught
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  Speaker 5: over time is you know the pre masses of situation
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  Speaker 5: um so you know put these guys in third down
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  Speaker 5: situations in practice right make it as much as a
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  Speaker 5: game um style format as much as you can so
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  Speaker 5: that way when these guys get into the game and.
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  Speaker 3: It's this third quarter these third.
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  Speaker 4: Downs whatever it may be right um.
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  Speaker 5: These situations arise it's It's not their first time, right,
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  Speaker 5: on a Saturday night. Being in those situations, they practice
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  Speaker 5: it all week, right? That's the reason when you go
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  Speaker 5: to a practice, these things are scripted, right? These are
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  Speaker 5: situations that the coaches feel are the most important, right?
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  Speaker 5: You can have situations where you come out of the
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  Speaker 5: halftime break, right? All these little different things that need
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  Speaker 5: to show up, that do show up in game days.
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  Speaker 5: It's all about the coaching staff putting the players in
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  Speaker 5: the right place um, positions to be at their best.
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  Speaker 4: Um, and you know, things of that nature.
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  Speaker 1: Zach Moss is our guest here on the Sean O'Connell show,
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  Speaker 1: Utah football legend, NFL veteran. And right now, uh, the
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  Speaker 1: sideline reporter for the Utah radio broadcast that you could
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  Speaker 1: listen to right here on ESPN, 700 and 92.
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  Speaker 2: One FM, uh, whiteout uniform for a night game.
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  Speaker 1: Zach Moss. It's backwards. It's usually blackout during the night game.
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  Speaker 1: I feel a little superstitious about it. I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to try to curse anything, but how much did you
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  Speaker 1: care about what uniform you were wearing, especially in college
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  Speaker 1: where you got so many different combinations?
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, I didn't care.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I pay much more attention to that stuff.
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  Speaker 5: Now than I did in college. I think for one,
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  Speaker 5: with Coach.
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  Speaker 4: Witt and the guys that.
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  Speaker 5: We had up there running the equipment room, things of
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  Speaker 5: that nature, you know, it was a pretty– uh, status
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  Speaker 5: quo kind of a thing, right?
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  Speaker 4: You know, we had our certain games, right?
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  Speaker 3: Night game is black.
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  Speaker 4: And then if it's the, you know, the pride game, you, you.
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  Speaker 3: Pride games and certain uniform for that.
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  Speaker 4: And you go on the road, right. It's pretty much
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  Speaker 4: only this, right. It's always almost white, um, on the road.
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  Speaker 5: So, you know, it was, it was more of a,
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  Speaker 5: almost like an NFL ran, uh, program essentially when it
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  Speaker 5: came to the, uh, Right. One thing that's popped up
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  Speaker 5: to me is, you know, how way Sean, I think
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  Speaker 5: was last year. I don't think he's done it much
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  Speaker 5: this year, but last year, you know, the pink cleats.
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  Speaker 4: Right. You know, pretty much almost the whole rest of
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  Speaker 4: the season. And, you know, that was great.
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  Speaker 5: Kind of weird to me because you never really see
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  Speaker 5: that much individualism, especially at Utah when being in the
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  Speaker 5: Coach Willingham era and things of that nature, and you
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  Speaker 5: look back all those years as well, you don't really
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  Speaker 5: see that much individualism. individualism. But I love that, you know,
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  Speaker 5: Coach Scali, you know, he's obviously he's an ex-player, ex-alum.
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  Speaker 5: He's a lot closer in age, right? He's kind of
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  Speaker 5: far off still, but closer than Coach Whitworth to what
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  Speaker 5: the new age of football.
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  Speaker 4: Essentially is, right?
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  Speaker 5: You got to allow these guys to have, you know,
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  Speaker 5: some type of, you know, input on what they're wearing,
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  Speaker 5: what they want to wear, right?
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  Speaker 3: And I think this is a direct.
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  Speaker 4: calls of players, right? The leadership, right?
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  Speaker 5: Giving the players leadership and, you know, changing some things up, right?
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  Speaker 5: You know, the captains and things like that. And I'm sure,
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  Speaker 5: you know, that comes directly from them with some stuff
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  Speaker 5: from Coach Scali as well. So I'd like to see
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  Speaker 5: things being different, right?
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  Speaker 4: I love the night game with the all white out.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's going to be just an absolute spectacular
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  Speaker 5: view just for everybody inside of life cycles and people
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  Speaker 5: watching it on TV as well. So, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 5: super happy that, you know, these guys are having a
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  Speaker 5: lot more input on certain things and, you know, who
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  Speaker 5: knows what, I'm not sure if they're going to do
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  Speaker 5: the hand painting helmets again this year, but who knows
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  Speaker 5: if they do, what type of style we're going to
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  Speaker 5: get from that as well.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of style, the coaching style that we're seeing Morgan Scali.
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  Speaker 1: Now he's, he's five games into the bowl game last
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  Speaker 1: year and first four games this season. Morgan as an
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  Speaker 1: assistant coach was, you know, an animated type guy, kind
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  Speaker 1: of loud, a little crazy at times, especially in practice,
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  Speaker 1: not as much during games and things like that. But
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  Speaker 1: I've noticed that he's borderline stoic on the sideline when
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  Speaker 1: he's the head coach.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: He's observing. He's quiet. He's conversational, it seems. And obviously
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  Speaker 1: we don't have a camera on him all the time.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not looking at him all the time when
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  Speaker 1: I'm watching the games in the stadium to see how
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  Speaker 1: he's reacting to things. But he has a very calm
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  Speaker 1: demeanor on the sideline. And he's an intense guy overall.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like on game day, he's trusting that, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, I've already put in the work. Let's just
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  Speaker 1: see how this thing plays out. I'm a little surprised
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  Speaker 1: by that, if I'm being honest, because I enjoy that. charismatic,
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  Speaker 1: energetic approach from Morgan Scali. And I'm not saying it's
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  Speaker 1: totally absent, but it's just not as noticeable. Have you
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  Speaker 1: noticed anything about his demeanor on the sideline? And does
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  Speaker 1: it maybe surprise you one way or the other?
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  Speaker 3: Um, no.
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  Speaker 5: I wouldn't say I'm surprised because I didn't really have
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  Speaker 5: any expectations. I'm not a person that lives in an
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  Speaker 5: expectation world. So I didn't really have any expectations on
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  Speaker 5: how he would present himself on the sideline.
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  Speaker 3: I think.
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  Speaker 5: Personality obviously does matter. Like we all know, he's definitely
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  Speaker 5: a lot more fiery in practice. He definitely has a
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  Speaker 5: personality that will shock you.
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  Speaker 4: If you don't know him and things of that nature
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  Speaker 4: as well.
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  Speaker 5: So to see him pretty stoic and kind of just really,
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  Speaker 5: really super mild, honestly, to be on the sideline throughout
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  Speaker 5: these first couple weeks. You know, it's been, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 5: say weird, but it's it's like, oh, okay, you know,
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  Speaker 5: he can have different personalities when they call for them, right?
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  Speaker 5: But I think, you know, and I've talked about it
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  Speaker 5: before on our pregame show with Bill and Sly, you know,
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  Speaker 5: to me, I think that comes from the type of
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  Speaker 5: trust that he has in his coaches that he's picked to,
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  Speaker 5: you know, build this program with the vision that he
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  Speaker 5: has as.
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  Speaker 3: Well, right?
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  Speaker 5: You know, he's not one of those guys that's going
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  Speaker 5: to jump into, you know, the D.C.
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  Speaker 4: Meeting as far as taking over the D.C. meeting, right?
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  Speaker 3: He's not going to die.
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  Speaker 5: He's going to come in and take over the office
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  Speaker 5: of coordinators meeting, right? Special teams meeting, right? And you're
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  Speaker 5: talking about a guy who played at this level and
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  Speaker 5: played at the next level and things of that nature
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  Speaker 5: as well. So I think some of that is just
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  Speaker 5: him having full trust in the players and the coaches, right?
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  Speaker 5: That gives the coaches who are calling these plays and
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  Speaker 5: putting the players in position to just have, you know,
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  Speaker 5: just the outright confidence that, you know, if there's an issue,
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  Speaker 5: they mess up, right?
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  Speaker 4: They're not going to have somebody breathing under their neck and.
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  Speaker 3: Things of that nature.
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  Speaker 5: So, you know, sometimes a lot of coaches, coordinators, they
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  Speaker 5: don't get that type of privilege. And I think, you know,
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  Speaker 5: just his... His demeanor on the sideline so far has
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  Speaker 5: just been, in my opinion, from what I've seen, is
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  Speaker 5: just that he has a ton of trust in these guys,
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  Speaker 5: and these guys are doing an absolute great job. Obviously,
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  Speaker 5: Coach Swan in his first year at the D.C. year,
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  Speaker 5: Coach McGivins, who has a storied history himself and being
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  Speaker 5: a play caller over the years.
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  Speaker 4: But the first.
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  Speaker 5: Time at Utah, he's giving these guys every key to
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  Speaker 5: the doors right now.
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  Speaker 1: Zach Moss for another minute or two here on the
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  Speaker 2: I want to touch on here with you.
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever have crazy encounters with the referees at
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  Speaker 1: any level of football? We saw a couple instances this
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  Speaker 1: week from NFL referees where, you know, guy gets knocked over,
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  Speaker 1: gets mad about it, gets up in somebody's face. Trey
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  Speaker 1: McBride somehow upset a ref enough that the ref is mad.
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  Speaker 1: telling them to bleep off or whatever. And it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of crazy. It's kind of crazy to see that because
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  Speaker 1: refs are usually like stonewall you, if anything, right?
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  Speaker 2: They just don't talk.
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  Speaker 1: But did you ever have a crazy encounter with a referee?
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  Speaker 4: Surprisingly, no.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't have a weird encounter with the referees in
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  Speaker 5: my time. You know, honestly, every referee... Sometimes I was surprised.
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  Speaker 4: They knew who I was.
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  Speaker 5: And then, you know, sometimes you just had a decent
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  Speaker 5: quick little, you know, witty comment, you know, joking manner
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  Speaker 5: to the referees and things like that, because you always
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  Speaker 5: want to be in the right place. Good favor as
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  Speaker 5: many times as you can. But yeah, no, I never
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  Speaker 5: had a, an encounter with them.
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  Speaker 4: And that wasn't the negative way.
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  Speaker 1: Speaker 0 7, we're seeing it in the NFL. We're
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: seeing it in college football with certain teams. especially a
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: team that has a bunch of former Utes and Ute
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: coaches on it right now. Can a team on a
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: consistent basis, like more than one or two games a year,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: can you outplay bad quarterback production? Is there a way
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: that you could still be a good team without having
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: at least a quality quarterback, at least a decent quarterback?
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: But if your quarterback is turning the ball over, throwing
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: 50% completion, if your quarterback is actually below a certain standard,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Is there a way Zach Moss that a team can
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: truly overcome that?
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: In this, in this era of football, the modern era
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: of football, I don't, I don't think so. I think
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: because the game football is now so quarterback centric, a
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: lot more than it ever has been. You know, I
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: think just the other, I believe, yeah, yesterday, you know,
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: they put so.
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  Speaker 3: Much onus on the quarterback.
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: You know, obviously I played in Buffalo and I saw
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: firsthand just how much onus was on Josh to go
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: out there and, you know, pretty much will us to
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: a win each and every week. And obviously the same
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: thing with Joe Burrow, who just threw, I want to say.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: 58, 59 passes in a game yesterday. Right.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: So I don't think you can, I think you can
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: be a good team.
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: I think, Look at the Minnesota Vikings right now, right?
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: They're a good team, right? In 4-0, they average 15
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: points per game. They've only scored six touchdowns in four
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: weeks and haven't scored a touchdown in 32 offensive drives.
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: So I think you could be a good team, but
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: when you talk about being a good team, are you
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: wanting to just be a good team or do you
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: want to be a team that can go.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: To different places? That's being.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: winning your division, being in that championship game, right, or
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: being in the Super Bowl or in the playoffs, in
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: that 12-spot playoffs, right, I don't think you can do
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: that when you're getting so far placed in the quarterback
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: in this era. You know, just because, you know, even
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: if you had a great running game, it'll be really
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: hard to do that week in and week out, week
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: in and week out without getting anything from a quarterback,
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: especially if.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: You add in turnovers and things of that nature.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: So, you know, my answer to that is no. be no.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: I think it could be, well, my answer.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: Is yes, to be a good team. But whatever your
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: definition of a good team is will then, you know,
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: make the answer a little bit more difficult.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: And on that same vein, right, if you're a college
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: football player right now and knowing how the landscape has changed, right,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: and a starting quarterback makes a bunch of money and
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: you as a starting running back, you're making some money too.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: So you're professionals, but you've also got, it's all one-year contracts, right?
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: You've also got a transfer portal and things like that.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: And you know that there's only certain windows of success,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: especially for a college football team.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: You can't really play the long game anymore. You're on
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: a team. Your quarterback's underperforming.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: And you're, you know, the second or third or fourth
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: most important player on the team, aside from the quarterback.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: And you're looking at that guy screwing up your opportunities here.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: You still want to be a great teammate. You still
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: want to make sure that you're doing what's, you know,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: in the best interest of everybody. But, I mean, is
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: there a role in which you as a player can
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: be like, man, we got to make a change here, coach, or.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Coach, when is this going to happen?
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Because I mean, there are a few teams in college
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: football right now that are at that precipice that it
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: looks like they have some other things.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: They've got a great defense.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: There may be capable runners, but when the quarterback is
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: not playing well, you got to make a change at
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: some point. How is a player, especially an important player,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: do you manage that with your teammate, with your coaches?
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: Um, I think for one, I think, uh, I think
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: I know one of the teams that you're talking about
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: that are having that issue right now.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Michigan, Michigan's got a bench Bryce Underwood at some point,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: but he's on a $ 12 million deal.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: Well, that's the issue when you bring in the NIO, right?
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: It becomes more of the professional level thing, right? You know,
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: obviously go back to the, 10 years, right, you know,
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: and then Bryce Underwood isn't performing well, he's benched without
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: even blinking an eye, right? It's already done. But now
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: that he's.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Making the type of money he's making, right, and the
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: people who are.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: Paying him, right, you never want to see an investment, right,
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: not doing well, right, or sitting on the bench, right?
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Because it's not doing you any favors, right?
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: That's like reinvesting in something And I put X amount
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: of dollars into it, and then I just pull.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: My money out, and I take all the negative loss
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: on that, right?
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: It's the worst thing that you can do.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: So, you know, in the coaching staff, and it happens all.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: The time in the pro levels, which is why the
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: NIL stuff was always going to be a bit difficult
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: in the college level because it's so new, right?
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: And you're dealing with essentially kids that.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: They have to– progress, right?
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: And you see it in the NFL right now. These
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: guys in the first round getting drafted, right? You're talking
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: $ 30 and $ 40 million in contract total money. And that's
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: not even money that essentially is on the caps. But still,
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: even if the guy like a CJ Shroud plays well,
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: essentially through the first three years, do you want to
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: extend them $ 50 million, right? Because a handicapped team is
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: They move on from you guys so fast.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: J.J.
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  Speaker 4: McCarthy, they move on from them so fast.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: And that's because of the money. It's not because of
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: anything else, just the money. But as a player, and
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: you're on the team, and you're in that space, you
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: just have to believe... that the coaching staff is going
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: to figure it out. And that's their job. That's why
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: they get paid. You can't essentially, you know, it doesn't
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: matter where you're ranked as the player on the team, two, three, four,
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: in terms of importance, you can't go to your coaches
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: and pretty much you know, lobby for your quarterback to
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: be benched. You got to support them in every way
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: possible because, you know, at the end of the day,
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: you still got to do your job as well.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: And if you can do, you.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: Find a way to do your job even better, maybe
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: you might be able to help him out and things
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: of that nature. But it all comes down to just
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: having faith and trust that the coach staff will get
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: it right. Because like I said, it's a lot more,
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: things to why you hold on to a guy and
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: you let them play it out. Especially when you're making five, six, seven,
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: $ 8 million in one season in college.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's, it's different than it used to be.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: That's for sure. But I appreciate your insight on that.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I will see up there on Saturday night, Zach. Appreciate
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: your time.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, my man. See you.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Zach Moss, Utah football legend, NFL running back. Now you
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: can hear him on the sidelines. as he works the
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: broadcast with the voice of the Utes, Bill Riley, Stevenson
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Sylvester up in the booth, and Zach Moss on the sideline.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: 8-15 kickoff, a whiteout Saturday night at Rice Eccles Stadium,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: at least for the team.