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Ron Morrett and Michael Wann | The City of Light and Dark, Cathedral Energies, and Signs of The Times · My Family Thinks I'm Crazy

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  [SPEAKER_01]: My family thinks I'm crazy, podcast where I, your host, try to give you some tips on how you can explain all this weird, wild, crazy conspiracy stuff The people you love most, because that's what I've been trying to do for the past 10 years with no success.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Now they don't want to listen.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They don't want to hear it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They're just like, oh, here we go, Mark.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Off again.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It would be hard to be a Mark again.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, that's the thing about all I'd best.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You are now listening to the My Family Think Some Crazy Podcast.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm your host, Mystic Mark.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for tuning in and enjoy this conversation with Ron Morit and my part-time co-host, Mike Juan.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the My Friendly Things on Crazy Podcasts and joining me To co-host this episode is our friend, your handbook from the Apocalypse, Susquan Alchemist, the Gypsy King himself, Michael Rahn, turning me to talk to our good friend.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Are you talking about every single episode because he
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Finally, a great guest and some of whom were excited to talk to, but he's also a longest-running sponsor with his vibe-med-X-U or number one source for Shilaji, the highest quality Shilaji.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: in the market.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So stay legit, get your shieldjet from run.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome, man.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Happy to have you back on the show.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Glad that I something I talk about every episode.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So you have to get that out of front and center.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And thanks again for supporting the show with Glad that X is awesome.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely, Mark, I'm so excited to be back on your show and with special guests, Mike Juan.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that just makes my whole day.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know he's a surprise guest for me as well.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And he's one of my favorite people.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And one of my favorite people in this space as well.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: He's so knowledgeable and brings such a dynamic twist to this matrix that we're all seemingly in a battle with.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So thank goodness he's here to help steer the ship today.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm excited to get going.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Ron, when Mark told me, when he told me, when he threw out the idea, he was like, what if you came on the show I'm having Ron today?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, oh, this is perfect.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And it was perfect because there's a question which I have and if you've ever been at the point where like, I should have asked that question a long time ago and now it's weird that I don't ask the question now, like you think it's past because it's the timing.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Is it, is it shielded, or is it shielded, gent?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I never know what to say.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, well, if I were in, if I were in the Himalayas, the Himalayas, and I was asking for, what would I say?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: What would a local say?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's a great question because people often ask that question and they don't know and the answer is really it can be both I've heard it both ways I don't know if there is a writer or wrong answer, but I know if you went through the Himalayas or the Al-Tai Mountains of Russia You may become a shielded drug lord or something something like that I would assume that you'd go there and come back with a supply for me and have things run as smoothly, but it's she legit I say it But I've heard many people say she legit Right, so it depends really come from so I don't know that there's a wrong answer there my friend
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Mark, you dropped both pronunciations in the intro to Ron.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Where do you weigh in on it?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I, well, that's that's why I say both so that people know what I'm talking about because it knows how they first heard it and also.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It sounds fresh.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, if you want to be sexy, you go shoot a jeet, you know what I mean?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Or going to.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I, but it doesn't feel right for me.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I'll be quite honest.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Is she legit like that?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: That's how it rolls off my tongue, but it's being American twang.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: That's, yes.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It's an American twang.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I twang now.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but if you want to be sexy, go shoot the jeeps all day long.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Stay legit, take your shit legit, or some variation of that, right?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And it just helps me remember what I'm saying.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Cause I don't write anything down.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But the ad reads off the top of my head.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think Ron is one of a few supporters who doesn't mind most.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Ad谷izers like read this script, please.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And I never do.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So anyways, all of that is silent.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Run.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: No, Mark, I got a jump point, you just said.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Do you, you know, or this is a question, this is a qualifying question right now.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Do you know what the OJ Simpson murder trial is?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Like in the history of the things that happened before 9-11, do you know that, are you familiar with kind of like the general, just of it?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: The glove doesn't fit in all the court.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: That's it.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: That's it.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Like two year point exactly.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Like that hypnotized the entire world.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Like he just like made a rhyme.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: He made a rhyme and like the entire world was like fuck.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It rhymes.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be, it
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, yeah, I used to sell bread and I wouldn't come up with all kinds of sales pictures that included rhymes and we always had a long line at the farmer's market.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So I took my kilojette so you cannot quit.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It is what it is.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: see how it even works with the one you said.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I know there's some really interesting things which I want to hear from Ron today and I was hoping we could kind of like.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Who's the thing?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Ryan needs to understand one thing first.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: When I have my quote on as a co-host, he's gonna interrupt me and I'm gonna interrupt him.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's just put, are we gonna cross examine you as our witness?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I can tell you this.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of people don't know that Mike Juan has spent a lot of time here.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: at the rock where I live and so I am used to his cross-examination and all of his shenanigans.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So I am prepared today.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm so glad because now nothing that I prepared for matters for the show.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just going to go with the flow and we'll see where this madness takes us.
• 7:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, that's the thing.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: There are interesting points that I've gathered and I do want to get to those, but we don't have to get to them in any sort of water, as Mike knows, we sort of just, yeah, go to the floor as we talked about the beginning of the show.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So you recently went on a trip.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: to a place that, to me, is the most fascinating thing we could talk about considering what Mike dreamy researches.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So maybe we start there and see where it takes us.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You want us a little bit about your trip to Turin?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Totally totally.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So, so funny enough, it was last year we did an event here in Pennsylvania and Mike was there at Shilajam, which stems from Shilajit and the whole experience that I've had in my life and so I created this wonderful festival.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: called Shilajam, I did that, and then I took off to Europe for pretty much the summer into the fall, give or take, I don't know, I was there for several months, and I ended up going to Italy, and so I'm a big fan, like all of us here on the show, and probably a lot of people watching on rabbit holes of all of different natures, so I ended up going to Europe, I mean Greece, which is wonderful, I go to Italy for several weeks, and I go to about 20
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And that was an unexpected kind of stop.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: We had some friends there, we went to post it up.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm getting Italy, you know what it's amazing because it's Italy.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's wonderful, but from our lens, from a kind of a rabbit hole perspective, touring in particular really showed a bit of everything that I wasn't expecting in any way.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So and then it's funny because I asked Mike about this.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I remember I let him know that I was going to the tour and he was like, Oh, that's where the illuminati set up shop, you know, and I'm like, Oh, and I get there.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And that's really the case for my perspective anyways, but you could see it everywhere.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And what was wild was seeing.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: the kind of the stronghold of Satan himself.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It's seen to me with evidence to back it up, that this is where Satan started, started shop, maybe in this realm.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So what was fascinating, I think that's what you're talking about is there is literally a statue of Satan in the middle of
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  [SPEAKER_03]: it's well known and well regarded as a city of black magic it's built on lay lines all these satanic statues and masonic imagery so it was really mind-blowing to see like I had no idea that that was going to come and so there's also the shed the shroud of torrent as well so there's
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Let me ask you a quick question about that statue before you go around so the statue can you give me like some context like how big was it and like what was the pose?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: What like what was the feeling someone would get if they were to see it was it like a empowered position a week position?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I'll tell you this and I don't remember the exact story of, you know, the historic exact of it, but it's a large statue.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's not the size of, it's probably it's not the statue of Liberty height, but it's pretty big, it's significant.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's built on top of some some significant mound, some significant holy site, you know what I mean?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, they often do they cover something up.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So Satan, you know, started his presence there.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm going to put up the picture all perfect perfect perfect.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so there it is.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So it looks like the statue of liberty can you zoom in on that picture mark because yeah, I'm in a little bit of disbelief right now so you know how we kind of have a feeling that the statue of liberty is literally Satan.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, this is the same thing over there.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It looks like state and it has the five star crown.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's a statute.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It's a call Satan.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Do they actually call it that?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's a call.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It's it's it's called something else, like, you know, um, specifically, but it's known as a statute of Satan.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't look sad to do like,
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It's well known throughout touring and Northern Italy that this is the statue of Satan, that this area is full of black magic and it's a strong hold for black magic itself.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's built a laylines that go from touring to London to San Francisco.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It's called the Black Triangle.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And that is one of the three points of this black triangle.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: London and San Francisco.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And Torne, yes, it's the same Francisco and Torne, okay, all right, that's a, wow, okay, okay, it's the black triangle and it's literally so then I was so now imagine this we're being driven around by a friend and he's telling us these stories and I'm like, what the fuck you know, now this is he telling you like stories of actual like, uh,
• 12:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's telling me that he's revealing like let me tell you about this town which they don't put the Wikipedia page.
• 12:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and he's proud it like he looks at it through, you know, a matrix person kind of lens, you know what I mean?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: He thinks these things are, you know, just the historical significance of these.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
• 12:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Do you know what you're saying?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I remember looking at my wife, apparently, I'm like, and then I started looking through stuff.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And I started, I found as I look through like, you know, just the who's who in, in, in Torrid.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I look for Satan and there are hundreds and hundreds of people with the last thing.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Say that again slowly.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: You're looking for a who's who in Torrid and you're like looking for Satan.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Like you're going through the list of all the names and you're like, oh, he's got to be listed.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Is it going to be under?
• 13:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: is.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So like Lorenzo Saiton, the accountant, you know, Antonio Saiton, he's an orthodontist.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, everywhere in Torrid, you can find someone with the last name Saiton.
• 13:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I can tell you this, I did more research then because I was fascinated.
• 13:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: So in the 80s and 90s, they had to start locking up cemeteries because people Saitonists were robbing bodies at bones for their ceremonies and they had to start locking things up.
• 13:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I got a question.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I jump in.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So in the context of the language, the linguistics of Italian when they have the last name of Satan, like what does that mean like in in that culture?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Do you know that?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I was kind of blindsided by all this and this will be my Italy trip.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm really really blew me away, but it was a quick hit like I was like, oh shit, this is interesting.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm going to put this, you know, in the back burner for later for things like this, but so also so they're Satan and then so interesting from the perspective of a local who has been there as, you know, an educated local Natalian.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: who is just taking us on tours and showing us this magnificent city, you know what I mean?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And so you know that I like, you know, cathedrals and old world architecture because, you know, for many reasons.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: But so that's littered in Europe, obviously.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: But in Torin, this guy's given me a tour and showing me old world architecture.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And everywhere we go, you know, the first floor, the first level of these buildings are
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  [SPEAKER_03]: 20 feet high, you know, I'm like, why are the ceiling so high?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, well, because the the kings wanted everything built that way because they were, you know, king league.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And if they, that's what they wanted.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So from us, I'm like, well, if you look at this through our lens, this is all made for giants, like the first floor of a for giants, the second and third and fourth floors are all, you know, normal human people size.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And so it was just so wild and clear to see giant doors everywhere.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, and I told the story on Sam Tripoli, then I went to Florence at some point, and in the I had a before you go to Florence, I got a I got a I got a David and a little bit deep.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I keep going, so I'm glad you're here to stop.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Mark has that even had a chance, but I love to hear the story, so let me ask you this one question, and it'll be quick for you to answer it, and then Mark can happen.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: One of these giant doors.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: If you were to look like like higher up than like human height, like let's say the giant tour is 20 feet, like 10 feet up where you would think a 10 foot tall giant hand would reach for the the the the door knob was there any indication was there anything within the architecture of the door that would indicate that that would be a location of a hand of a door knob for giants.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It was all built for giants.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the door knockers were giant lions.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: They were, you know, they were 13 feet up.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And there was a great other picture.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Like everything was built like that.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Like look, that's a giant.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So that's everywhere.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Like that's literally everywhere throughout.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So Northern Italy is more, you know, wealthy, aluminum-oddy base.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Like you could see that that's where the wealth and the beginning started to take shape in Italy at least.
• 16:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think for the entire Europe, and maybe this whole realm,
• 16:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, the doors were, where did I get everything was just crazy.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Everything was just crazy if you look at it through our lens.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So that really got my trip kick started.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, there is that picture of Satan again.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It's just wild to see.
• 16:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah, holy shit, the bodies on the rock below.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I want to add to or support or bolster the the point you just made about Northern Italy.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So it was I believe it was this past winter where they had the winter games in Northern Northern Italy.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And
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  [SPEAKER_04]: if you go back and you look on I think that the winter games began sometime in like the the middle of January and then they overlapped with like the world economic forum of then in Davos which was very close to it and then like the floor that there was a huge like it was like just a blurb and was when the on the winter solstice but in a ski town in
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: And the Alps in Switzerland, which is all in the same stretch, there are different countries, but there's like a hundred miles apart.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Same area, and like this, no, is New Year's Eve.
• 17:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: And a nightclub burnt down and like a hundred people perished in it.
• 18:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, this is a luminati level sort of like the way the ritual or where the game is played is done that way in that area.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, if you're paying attention, it's all around you.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it really is.
• 18:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it was amazing for me to kind of see that and experience that, you know, knowing the rabbit holes that I enjoy going down and to see it firsthand.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So really spectacular and then to kind of bring it back and share with people, because all of us go down these rabbit holes, we're all aware of them.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: But when you see them in person, um,
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  [SPEAKER_03]: and get to spend that much time like I did.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And that was just the beginning.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I went to feedrows all throughout Greece and Italy.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And some of the remote rate regions you could ever find.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm just blown away by what's out there.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And we're like to be there.
• 18:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's interesting because if you're here in the States and a lot of our friends, a lot of your audience, a lot of my audience, we all have an understanding and a belief at least what what they tell us we know is incorrect.
• 19:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: We know that there's something off and we know there's so many theories that we all, you know, subscribe to, you know, founded buildings old world stuff and all that's our area and it's great to to see it and have an understanding.
• 19:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: But when you live it, and then you get to live it for months and months and months, so I'm so grateful and blessed that I can do that.
• 19:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: I can travel the world, and my fun is going to Cathedral, and visiting places like this, so to be able to immerse myself in it, is really next level because then it just validates what we already kind of know.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: We already have a sense.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: We already have a knowing within us, but then when you can experience it,
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I tell you what else I did, I actually rented a cathedral in Rome.
• 19:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: I stayed, it became an Airbnb in a cathedral that was founded or found or built.
• 19:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever it was, the 1600s, I rented that place and I stayed in it.
• 20:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, it was like, it was almost like Dracula's Airbnb.
• 20:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it was like a king size bed that was two king beds in the,
• 20:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, which was really spectacular and eerie, but also really wonderful.
• 20:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I pulled up some photos.
• 20:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, when you use San Francisco, one more in turn, and I think like the facial expression, and we both kind of like, you know, because as I mean, you know, we, we make maps on this show,
• 20:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: a triangle between those three cities just seems odd, but then you go and you look it up and sure enough.
• 20:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is something people are talking about.
• 20:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Look at this, I find a few examples of maps already pre-made.
• 20:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Here's a black triangle going across that area, but then I find another one in
• 21:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Ah, so that's, is that, yeah, so that triangle continues.
• 21:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: I did see them talk about, what is that Lima and Prague as well, and what is one of those three of them in the bottom one?
• 21:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: One and Prague.
• 21:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
• 21:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 21:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's the white triangle.
• 21:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: So that's the balance of good and evil.
• 21:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: So that is the white trot.
• 21:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's a black magic triangle and a white triangle of light.
• 21:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: So that's the balance.
• 21:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: So what's interesting is is,
• 21:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Torrin gives you the balance like the King and Yang.
• 21:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like it sets up this ground for the duality that we all experience.
• 21:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: That was the magic of that space.
• 21:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's why the shrouds there.
• 21:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's why Satan's there.
• 21:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like there everything's there.
• 21:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that's the battleground really for this realm and our souls in many ways.
• 21:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that's what's talked about there.
• 22:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's talked about openly and knowingly.
• 22:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like it's common knowledge and understanding that that's the epicenter for the struggle.
• 22:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, wow, and here's another interesting program on a map.
• 22:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I just, at the center of the center of the, of the struggle, you just kind of like walk it through the different markets and sample it all of the goods.
• 22:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess.
• 22:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know, it's that one's got to do it.
• 22:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Someone's got to do it.
• 22:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Listen, this is what I do for the people like one.
• 22:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know me, this is what I do.
• 22:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: You think I enjoy this?
• 22:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I do it for the struggle.
• 22:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I tell you that.
• 22:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: See you in the next.
• 22:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: the sacrifices I make.
• 22:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think you were here at my house when I was there.
• 22:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: You were here.
• 22:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: I totally wasn't.
• 22:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: I totally wasn't.
• 22:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was manning the ship for you were gone.
• 22:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
• 23:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: But what all, and what also is interesting in Torin is that it's super boozy.
• 23:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like they have all the high end stuff, you know, whatever, Versace, you prod all the big names, but they don't advertise.
• 23:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's all undercover.
• 23:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like they don't have big billboards.
• 23:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's that's how they roll like it's it's it's it's they're obligated to be that way.
• 23:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that's what it's known for like under cover, you know, super high quality dope shit.
• 23:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it was one of the most fascinating parts of the trip, but that's just where it all you don't know.
• 23:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: But that's where it started for me.
• 23:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's where Italy started at least.
• 23:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: I had spent time in Greece as well.
• 23:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Another mystical, magical place.
• 23:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: I went to a bunch of monasteries in Greece, like deep in the mountains, like you were like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
• 24:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm trying to think like in your minds like how does that make sense where they say this is the place like which is like like what exactly how do you understand what are who Satan is and why would you be there like what is the like how does that fit into like your understanding of the overall stuff
• 24:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'll tell you what something is something that I've noticed because of that because of that statue and it goes also to to the statue of liberty, you know what I mean, where there's these these monuments that are set and for me, like looking in this realm, we are all under the spell of a satanic spell like we are all under a spell, you know, one of the things I want to talk about later is is just when you realize.
• 24:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, when you're during during your spiritual awakening, you do have a reality awakening.
• 24:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then you realize, oh my God, what, you know, this is all fake.
• 24:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's all a spell and it's all a lie.
• 25:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: These are instrumental pieces of that puzzle I believe.
• 25:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like that statue in there where it's setting up the shop, it's setting up and you can expand on this probably more than anybody is a significance of putting these structures on significant areas that then overtake the system.
• 25:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, so that's how I see it.
• 25:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how this all is put together.
• 25:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: but I see the building blocks and that was one of the main pieces.
• 25:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that that I would imagine in their game of chess in this realm.
• 25:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, if that makes sense.
• 25:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: Marking and like I'm curious what your take is, too, because a lot of this like overlaps like the idea of of skull and bones and like Yale architecture and some of the like the the dead head sort of things that you've looked into.
• 25:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like this all feels like it's in a similar sort of you know, elite circle of symbolism and like how does that and why does that affect?
• 26:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, it's interesting being a dead head thing up because as I'm thinking about, you know, the shroud of turn, what is it?
• 26:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, uh, it's the artifact on a death.
• 26:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a sort of, uh, right?
• 26:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, recorded the essence of Christ and because it was Christ, it was recorded in a way that was maybe more unique than if you were to leave a body, you know, or cloth on the body of a person who had recently passed away, it's going to have their essence on it, right?
• 26:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, if you think about it in that sense.
• 26:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Catholic Church, all of there, a cult, significance comes from dead things.
• 26:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're sort of obsessed with the death in that sense, right?
• 27:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, I mean, I can see where it's the light in the dark, but there's very much, you know, some irony, or maybe even an inversion there, as far as the light goes, because I mean,
• 27:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right, it's, again, it's the, it's a sort of death symbol.
• 27:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's Christ, but it's still, I don't know, it doesn't feel to me like, it's necessarily like, um,
• 27:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Inbearing the idea of Jesus Christ it's more like a record of his death.
• 27:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it came to like the crucifixion like it's like in that line of symbol symbols and like when you go in the Catholic church and you see Christ on the cross, you're meant to contemplate his death on the cross.
• 27:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like this crucifixion moment, it's like this sort of psychological trauma
• 28:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: is death moment that they want you to contemplate and think about, and here's another artifact of that, the shroud, right?
• 28:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Am I kind of going along with certain, you may go on off the weeds they make?
• 28:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, you're hitting one of my favorite topics, and I don't know, like, I don't want to derail our conversation, because like, but when you said, like, well, what are you supposed to feel when you look up there,
• 28:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: Mind control 101 techniques of how you instill like like guilt, but but anyway go I didn't want to go down that path by doing so fascinating observation, which you made about like the shroud like literally being like it's a
• 28:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: it is a different form of the like the death worship and it has a certain level like I don't know if it like what's real and what's not real but I know the story how it's presented into the collective consciousness and that artifact.
• 29:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's said to be different than any other artifact, which is out there, and to have that, as you were saying, like a death essence, a scraping, what do you call those?
• 29:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, sketching of the Savior in Louis in Satan's hometown, but that's a crazy sort of,
• 29:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's a storyline, like that's a storyline of a movie.
• 29:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's like the twilight film.
• 29:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like this is twilight film.
• 29:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is like it's so scripted that way and we will put to Statue of Satan and they will have essence of this.
• 29:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's nuts.
• 29:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: And no one would know about this unless I'm here talking about it.
• 29:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, most of our haven't old friends would have put these people.
• 29:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's how it's able to keep it like something like that's separate because the typical person, human being who's out there who would think like this,
• 30:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, the Satan and the the turn like they typically don't have the means to go to turn and turn as you said is like very, very high end And they're not advertising like there are parts of the world where you're supposed to know of which you're like where do you think?
• 30:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: But the real secret place is you don't know about because it'll put ads and they don't do.
• 30:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
• 30:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: They don't want to know about it.
• 30:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 30:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 30:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like that.
• 30:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: The biggest piece of the puzzle.
• 30:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: They don't want you to know about it.
• 30:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know why I love Torin of us?
• 30:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: There was no tourist, none.
• 30:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: There were no Americans, none anywhere.
• 30:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that's what they do.
• 30:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: No one knows about Torin.
• 30:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: No one goes to Torin.
• 30:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that's where all the freaking magic is.
• 30:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's where the spells are.
• 30:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: And know it, whatever, figure it out.
• 30:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, there's no coincidence that I went there.
• 30:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: And probably we went there on a mission for you, Mike Juan.
• 30:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, they can, you know, this is me working for you.
• 31:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're pretty bad.
• 31:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Did you get a souvenir from touring?
• 31:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Did you get a little nicknac when you brought back?
• 31:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
• 31:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: I can't remember.
• 31:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think I did.
• 31:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't get a whole lot of nicknaps, but if any could, you know, now let me back, I have to go back now.
• 31:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, you need to have a, like, an import export line directly from Nick Max, if in Torin, Nick now from Torin into the United States and then, like, Mark, Mark Scott that distribution as to you, like he's got like the in person stores.
• 31:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: You got the the internet distribution and the Nick Nax will get all over the place.
• 31:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's what I want to do now.
• 31:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm seeing that.
• 31:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: I did bring back some chocolates.
• 31:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: They have some really spectacular chocolates that I gave as gifts to people.
• 31:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah.
• 31:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I'll be going back to Torin.
• 31:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: I can tell you that.
• 31:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: That was one of my favorite places.
• 31:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so for me, like I was like, if I ever lived in Italy, it would be in Torin.
• 31:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, and mentally, once again, because there's no Americans, but because it had everything, and it had that essence to it.
• 32:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it really pulled me to it.
• 32:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: And like I said, we didn't attend on going to Torrent.
• 32:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: It just, it all just aligned, divine sacred entities.
• 32:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I've never seen it before.
• 32:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: Was there any dollar generals or chipotle?
• 32:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's what I mean.
• 32:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: Did you see any, any of those anywhere in the,
• 32:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'll tell you this when you go to Italy and you stop at like a gas station like you know, we have a turn by care and if you stop at a rest area You get coffee you go to the bathroom Let me tell you something you go in there and there's grandma's making pasta at like a gas station And you stay at a native counters and you sip on espresso's and you get these the best pastry jibber ahead in your entire life and And it's spectacular and I'm talking about at gas stations everywhere and another thing I notice
• 32:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know how that Americans everywhere, you know, you go to the bathroom and there's a line of 10 people because everyone's pissing because they're drinking giant coffee's no one's doing it in Italy.
• 32:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: When I went to the bathroom, now I'm just pissing in Italy.
• 32:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: It is a, you know, because everyone's drinking it because everyone's fucking drink it there are a piss and there are no lines at the bathroom because there's like this honor to fixation like from like the right amount.
• 33:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I did bring the magic pee.
• 33:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is now three year age magic pee that I drank on the same triplet show.
• 33:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I brought that out just just for you guys.
• 33:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: But but but that's the beauty of Italy that people are drinking just in espresso and then off the pistol at the damn time.
• 33:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: So you're not waiting a line to go into the freaking bathroom and it's not that bad Americans everywhere.
• 33:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's it's much better.
• 33:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: But anyway, let's get back to the show.
• 33:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, before you bring about your empty suitcases on your next trip to turn, we don't want to necessarily sell things from turn if this is the devil's headquarters, Mike.
• 33:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think you mean, but it's also the headquarters of light apparently.
• 33:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, there's this give and take, you know what I mean?
• 33:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's the most interesting thing.
• 33:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, you know, and for us to live in this world, you know, like, you know, all of us where we're hit to the whole,
• 34:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: The insanity of this realm like if you look around like it is completely insane.
• 34:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's the most insane It's ever been maybe But we still have to live here.
• 34:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: We still have to enjoy ourselves here and I think all these rabbit holes are great You know that we go down But at the end of the day, it's what we do with it, you know, and for me, you know I've done it all.
• 34:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've gone hardcore meditation.
• 34:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
• 34:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Just you know Doing all the things you need to do and and elevating and all that good stuff
• 34:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: And now I'm back to just living a good life, you know, and enjoying this matrix and taking it for a ride.
• 34:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: So whether we're in torn or whether we're in New York or Pennsylvania or whether we're fighting robots or zombie, vaccinated people, I don't know what's coming down the pike, but we got to enjoy ourselves.
• 34:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: It just breathe all this goodness in and keep the flow going.
• 34:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's my new motto, my friends.
• 34:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, considering it's the city of light, like Ann Burke, and it's in this light, triangle.
• 35:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Have you been to any other places that feel like going lying in the front?
• 35:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, on this theme of, you know, strange places.
• 35:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: There we go.
• 35:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, what I went to Greece.
• 35:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: I went to this place called Delphi.
• 35:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: And there's these like ancients.
• 35:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Greek ruins and at first of all, it was in a middle of nowhere on top of a mountain and it was really, I mean, these places are full of magic and vibration and frequency, you know, and I could, man, when I traveled on this particular trip because it was months long and found myself in a remote, most remote regions of the world, sitting around the most magnificent, you know,
• 35:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: relics that were left.
• 35:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: I really could tap into to things that I that you just can't do normally, you know, or it's more challenging normally.
• 35:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, there's these mountains in Greece and they are from another world they are.
• 36:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: First of all, I had no idea how mountainous Greece was.
• 36:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I had no idea that it's like the rocks, like this was absent many ways.
• 36:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: The mountains are gigantic.
• 36:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I think it's called like meteor or something.
• 36:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: MET or ERA or something like that.
• 36:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you go there and it's cosmic.
• 36:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, these things aren't of this realm, you know.
• 36:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: But once again, you wouldn't, you wouldn't,
• 36:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: recognize that unless you were there and had the ability to go to these places.
• 36:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I, I, I was just really blown away by so many things that I saw particularly like I say, looking at it through the lens that I look at things.
• 36:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: So if fascinating stuff that's out there, and you know, we're too busy in, in this world, looking at our phones, most people go into a job nine to five sitting in an office all day long and lucky if they get, you know, a two week vacation.
• 36:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's hard to get out and see these things.
• 36:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I understand that,
• 37:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: But it's out there, and the magic's there.
• 37:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, you could have to go away or another.
• 37:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
• 37:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 37:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: The landscape at the sky has a ton of like strange stones.
• 37:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: And what man is this kind of what you're talking about?
• 37:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: The statues and the octagonal stones in this castle.
• 37:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, yeah, you know, it's up at all through Greece and in New York, it was like that.
• 37:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you find this stuff everywhere.
• 37:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, it's so interesting because they're in the most often in the most remote regions, just like we find, you know, old world buildings here that are in remote regions, but they're that's really remote.
• 37:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's like, you know, how could you build this stuff?
• 37:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: I remember when I was in Delphi, and there was a giant thinks there.
• 37:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, giant thinks in the middle of this place.
• 37:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: you know, whatever the Burbiage on it and it was like the mythical speaks and I'm like I remember that because I'm like, why are we calling these things mythical?
• 38:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, what's mythical about this giant, this giant statue?
• 38:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, people didn't build shit because it was mythical.
• 38:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: They weren't playing games.
• 38:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: They weren't making jokes for the future.
• 38:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, we are thwarted this, this ideologies and theories that these things are real.
• 38:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you use your discernment in your eyes, there is real to get.
• 38:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: These things are found all over the world.
• 38:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it is real, but for some reason, we believe that these things are mythical.
• 38:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: And they're not in their fake, or whatever the story is.
• 38:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: But it just blows me away, you know, when I think of the things that I see or the places that I go, Mike, what are your thoughts about that?
• 38:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: On everything being mythical and things like that?
• 38:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: You bring a valid points, but what I'm curious about is, like from a practical embodied experience, like you being a human being walk around in your body, when you go to these places where you are recognizing like the landscape and the architecture is different.
• 39:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: Then what you normally have access to like how does that like how does that impact you affect you like what do you do with that like or what what's the reason like I'm trying to I'm trying to like okay you you're going there and these are special places like
• 39:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then what I mean, I'm like, then what, but I wouldn't know, like, how did he, how it affected you.
• 39:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, I don't know how to test me, but I know like the cumulative, you know, the add up of all these things, you know, that's what kind of gets me.
• 39:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: what's maybe is most significant is all the cathedrals that I see.
• 39:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, all throughout Europe, and then even when I was in Colombia last year as well, magnificent cathedrals built all over the world.
• 39:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I've seen probably, you know, hundreds of them now, everywhere I go throughout the states now in Europe in Colombia, like that's really that that really,
• 40:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: That impacts me because I see these giant structures full of things that you don't have hundreds of cathedrals.
• 40:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 40:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: Wow.
• 40:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: So you're collecting something.
• 40:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like just like the very essence of doing something is like more like, and I mean, because I would, wow.
• 40:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
• 40:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right, go on.
• 40:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry.
• 40:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm starting.
• 40:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: You're answering my question maybe in a different way, but I hear where we're going with it.
• 40:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, so I've always done that not always, but you know, more recently, you know, when I travel here in the States, I always stop, you know, and it's funny because, you know, Mason's at University of Pitt now and I was there a couple weeks ago and there's a cathedral right on campus.
• 40:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's a couple of them.
• 40:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was I was outside of it looking at, you know, all the engraving and some woman walked up to me and she said, do you like this?
• 40:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, yeah, she was like, well, I happen to have the key to the building, would you like a tour?
• 40:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, oh, yeah, so she takes me inside.
• 40:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: And, and we're talking, and I'm like, look at this, look at this, all this work, you know?
• 41:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I'm like, do you know the history of this?
• 41:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: She says, I do.
• 41:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I said, why don't you tell me about it?
• 41:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, she starts to tell me, like, when it was built, and it was built in the 20th, I think.
• 41:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: And, and I'm like, well, do you know how long it took or who built it?
• 41:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: She said the funny thing is they didn't really keep good records.
• 41:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: So we don't really know a lot of who built it.
• 41:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, wow, isn't that wild?
• 41:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: This grand palace, and they did keep good records.
• 41:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: They could do all this work, but they couldn't keep good records, you know?
• 41:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so my God, okay.
• 41:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then I said, how long did it take them to build this?
• 41:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: And she said, you're not going to believe it.
• 41:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, do tell 18 months, 18 months to build this and through all the intricate engraving into the stone throughout this palace, and I'm like 18 months, wow, like that must have been one big crew, which he's like, I know, but once again, there's no records.
• 41:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, well, that's too bad.
• 41:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like,
• 41:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: How can they do this?
• 41:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: She's like, I don't know.
• 42:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: It seems impossible, doesn't it?
• 42:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, yes, it does.
• 42:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, so it's just fascinating that when you break down, you know, I think we can agree on this.
• 42:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: We don't know.
• 42:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: about these buildings.
• 42:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: We don't know where they came from when they were found.
• 42:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: If they were built, why don't know the answers?
• 42:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: But what I do know is what they give us, doesn't add up, you know, that it building, to be built in 18 months for all these places all around the world at the same time in the late 1800s that like these crews with no power tools and no power and no ability to travel like we have now.
• 42:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're going all around the world in the same time frame.
• 42:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: And building these palaces in like a year, you know what I mean, like, you know, we just know that doesn't add up.
• 42:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: So anyways, I don't even know where I'm going with this, but what I find myself is enjoying that journey of looking at these things and just.
• 42:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: sitting with them and going to them and experiencing them and maybe it's the giant sacred geometry that's on the outside of these buildings that I'm absorbing or being led to.
• 42:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know but it's a hobby of mine and I'm really grateful that I get to do that and I get to go around the world and see these things and be a part of it and touch them historically and energetically and it's does something for me.
• 43:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: What that is, I don't know but I'm going to keep doing it as long as I can.
• 43:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: I have a perspective that whatever this place is, I don't know, but we know we're here.
• 43:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: by being here, there's an implication that there's another place, right?
• 43:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because we're here, and there's, you know, so we're else.
• 43:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: And my sense is like, yeah, we experience what it's like to just be us to be a human being and what that's like.
• 43:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: But there's wherever that other places, like they're eight, like what we're doing here shows up in a different way there.
• 43:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like you know, it's like we it's impossible.
• 43:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's an impossibility to recognize like what it is that we're doing because we're doing it.
• 44:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, and I often, like, when I look at people and I talk to people and I see how they live, like when you actually look at what they do, like what are the things that you've done in your body, and like, and then you start to look at it archetypically, you can start to see a larger pattern as to like maybe what's like bleeding through from another perspective.
• 44:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: And sometimes I'll be very, I'll be very,
• 44:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: like metaphorical with it like mark and I like to talk a lot about like just the process of going into like thrift stores and like that randomness and that's an example but what you're describing to me like as an individual and particularly like I know you well enough to know like
• 44:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: your perspective as it relates to energy architecture energy forms and the implications as to what those like invisible forms and energy does on this level like I know that's your thing like your house is filled with tensor technology and pyramids.
• 45:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: So you know,
• 45:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: Listening to you tell me your, your, your like kind of like background, back, back story like almost in the same way, there's a lyric from a song where they say life is what happens when you're busy making other plans or something like like the things that you're just like kind of doing.
• 45:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, oh, yeah, I always go to these cathedrals.
• 45:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: I've been to hundreds of them over my life.
• 45:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, there's some sort of, if you look at the cathedrals as architectural, energetic, attunement devices, which I know is like a really easy, or even obvious conclusion.
• 45:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, that is something which is being carried within whatever imprints us.
• 45:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: it, like, just as the shroud was imprinted with an essence, like whatever, like your shroud, your energy shroud of having a human body, like this is true for all of us, get some printed with essence as well, and you've collected hundreds of them of a certain scale and, you know, and technology across the face of Earth.
• 46:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's my option.
• 46:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's really well said.
• 46:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that's why I love having you around because you can make sense of these, you know, are you can articulate the situation much better than I can, you know, and yeah, that's exactly right at which I didn't even realize it's almost like you know, a lot of our friends do grid work.
• 46:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: what the late lines throughout the country at edge kind of what I'm doing.
• 46:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just traveling around you know to be touching these notes and doing what I'm like a bee pollinating shit all around the world, you know?
• 46:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: I am grinning in the fuck out of this place.
• 46:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
• 46:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: You probably fuckers haven't even said thank you yet.
• 46:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
• 46:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: You think about their drink at lattes and having fun going around the road.
• 46:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think I'm drinking espresso or the turnpike on Italy in my Ferrari.
• 46:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: How dare you?
• 46:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: How dare you?
• 47:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: For you, for you.
• 47:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: So that's what I, that's what I got, man, that's what I'm doing.
• 47:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you know, and Mike, you and I talk about this a lot, like what are we doing here?
• 47:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, there's something going on in this universe and another one, we have a reason why we're doing these things.
• 47:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: And we go with the flow, you know, like we, we were kind of pirates out there.
• 47:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're just doing our thing.
• 47:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: It, it kind of makes sense sometimes it doesn't.
• 47:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: But, but there, there's got to be, it's seemingly,
• 47:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: an interesting reason why we're doing all this and and you help me make sense of it so thank you because sometimes you know I wonder what the heck I'm doing out there um so thank you and then Mark brings us all together doing his podcast as well and we all have this role like that's why we're all here together today you know doing some type of work in in synergy with with each other doing it for the collective with the collective like this is important stuff you know and it's
• 47:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's fun going down these rabbit holes and it gets our attention, but then why are we doing all of this and it really comes back to the collective and really kind of raising the frequency for all of us, you know, and that's what I see it as, you know, you know, frequency attracts like frequency.
• 48:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: So when we're doing this work and mark when you're bringing the podcast.
• 48:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: and people get an interest and they come and tune into this.
• 48:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: They're really getting into tunements and this is the way we win in the end.
• 48:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is the way we raise our vibration and do whatever it is to fight this fight, you know?
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• 51:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're the one thing.
• 51:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Battle of the Lewis is that the people, you know, maintain or in charge of this building, have that sort of same story for one of these structures.
• 51:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: That they all, those built this quicker than that, I was just one experience, but one of the other things that came up with visiting loggies, places that struck you as like a theme or pattern aside from that.
• 51:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, and now that I think about it, even opening up this conversation, like this is what I've done, even in beliefs, this is what I've done, like every part of the world that I go to I find these.
• 51:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: these often secluded areas.
• 51:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: And when I was in Belize, I went to these temples, these myand temples, and I stayed on this myand land.
• 51:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I remember I went to this myand freaking pyramid, and there was no one there.
• 52:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then the guys were like, you're the only person here today, you know?
• 52:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I remember, while I'm having a flashback to this, I remember going to the top of this one pyramid in the middle of the jungle, and these myand ruins,
• 52:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I went to the top of this pyramid and I had this kind of out of body experience and I knew I had been there before and I could almost see this crowd like below me you know what I mean it was like it was like.
• 52:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh gosh, it was a whole, it was a whole thing, man, you know, but I knew that I had been there before, um, part of this ritual, you know, and I knew I, I remember that there was like a back way up and it was like the VIP entrance and I was like, yeah, of course I'm coming up this back VIP entrance, you know, and I just remember that I retired this story by because I'm just having a flashback to this one now.
• 52:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Keep going with it.
• 52:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I want to hear what this goes.
• 52:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 52:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, it's just market ass just about, you know, experiences at all these places.
• 52:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just remember that one, you know, but that was so wild.
• 53:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it was just a random Tuesday.
• 53:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: You don't even mean like this just kind of shit kind of happens.
• 53:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I kind of forget about it.
• 53:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like often in my journeys, you know, I have these experiences.
• 53:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I, you know, I kind of forget about it because
• 53:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: there's a lot going on, but but but that's interesting.
• 53:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: It just is the whole experience is interesting, you know, and being able to share this kind of information with all of us, who are all tapped into it somehow like we all are having these experiences now.
• 53:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: you know, really energetically and spiritually.
• 53:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like I know talking to so many of us and they collect it like the time it's now.
• 53:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Things are happening.
• 53:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: The synchronicities are out of control.
• 53:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: The energies, everything around us is, you know, we're in it now.
• 53:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: The shift is upon us, things are happening and we're all tapped into it.
• 53:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: And we really just need to surrender and give into it, you know.
• 53:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: and and work together and and have conversations like this to help each other through these these types of situations.
• 53:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm just talking about my experiences when I do things all around the world, but it really is important because it it plugs right into what all of us are going through right now, you know, and at least that's me making sense of it.
• 54:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't really know what's going on in this realm, but that's me trying to make sense of what I've been doing and what I'm hearing from so many of us.
• 54:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so many people and leaders and teachers in our space that I talk to, you know, that the shit is on right now.
• 54:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so it's time to buckle up.
• 54:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: What do you think is going to happen?
• 54:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
• 54:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to ask you if you knew because I, you know, I'm trying to prepare.
• 54:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know but isn't it weird like isn't the shit so weird right now have you guys so I wanted to talk a little bit you know to you mark it before I knew Mike was coming on like about what's going on like what do you think's going on.
• 54:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: What's going on in this realm like where do we go?
• 54:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, like it's really, it's a complex time.
• 54:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like it really is.
• 54:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: And if you're like us and you're open and you're seeing with clarity, you're seeing that shit is really going down, you know.
• 55:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so for the average person, like I can imagine what Joe Schmowe is going to work nine to five and there's nothing wrong with that.
• 55:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: But you know, the average person who may not,
• 55:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: have as much discernment or some clarity or you know being able to see a little bit through these these these these murky waters.
• 55:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a tough world right now.
• 55:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I I'd like to get maybe your guys perspective as to what you're seeing what you're thinking, how you're feeling, maybe friends of yours that you guys talked to as well.
• 55:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'd say the biggest change for me is the rapidly growth of the surveillance state, the time I believe successfully banned the flock cameras, which was, you know.
• 55:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: kind of a precedent in the state of Connecticut, so I don't know if that's been overturned or not.
• 56:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I thought there might have been a story saying something to the contrary, but it seems like people are registering that as a win, and that's just one time of thousands.
• 56:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, that's been kind of the most,
• 56:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: pervasive change on the radar and then the gas prices in your rainbow or that kind of thing.
• 56:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, let's go.
• 56:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's changing in my own life.
• 56:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've, I've almost felt like, and I can talk about this in the past, but there's this feeling of time accelerating, and I've almost felt like it's slow down a little
• 56:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: But it does feel like that, whatever that was, this like speed, speeding up of turning on a lot of people or feeling about a year ago and maybe last time in that, I feel like that's kind of weighed a bit.
• 57:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you felt that too, Mike, but you know.
• 57:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: What I've noticed is it seems like at any given, if you look back in your own memory of history, of what you've remembered experience, then also maybe what you've been told about times before we were born.
• 57:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: like at any given moment in time, like in the 80s or the 60s or the 30s, like there's always like an element within the, you know, the population, which is like this is it.
• 57:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: You can't get anywhere submesse.
• 57:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is like the fucking,
• 57:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because I mean, that's how all of our twists begins.
• 57:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: And one of the Charles Dickinson books, it was the best at times who was the worst at times.
• 57:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: And the choir, they so fucking bad.
• 57:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, you know, it was always the worst at fucking times.
• 57:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: And so there is definitely, there's definitely this, what I've noticed is there's like that technique, that technique of like one of the techniques I mentioned mine control earlier, one of the mine control techniques is always like it's right around the corner.
• 58:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 58:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's right around the court.
• 58:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, never quite get there.
• 58:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: So like that's a thing.
• 58:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like I've seen that.
• 58:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: But then there's also stuff like every once While you wake up and it's 9 to 11 and then like no one saw those towers, perhaps coming.
• 58:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, so it's like sometimes shit does happen.
• 58:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: I wasn't around during World War II, but I think World War II really happened, like you know, the grandparent who's got like experience, who's like, yes, I remember being there.
• 58:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, so I'm like, yes, it happens and right now, like it is more intense than it's ever been and people are, if there is going to be some sort of like,
• 58:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's all going to hit the fan and society collapses.
• 58:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now's probably as likely as I've ever seen, but then is it just going to keep moving along?
• 59:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is the one thing which I think is interesting.
• 59:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's kind of in my back in the backdrop of my awareness.
• 59:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: One of the things which I also am going to aware of is as my lifestyle changed.
• 59:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: as I had less things that were quote-unquote a value.
• 59:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, you know, I don't have a house.
• 59:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't have a this.
• 59:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't have a that.
• 59:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: My unconscious need to protect my stuff.
• 59:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: kind of like that that's often because I just like know stuff to protect and so like those stories like don't even I've part of me is like yeah when it's gonna learn to go through some of the experiences I did it like shit gets if she gets ugly like like so there's that what I am the laser focused on is is
• 59:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: And what is definitely different from the past is the continual creep of technology and even more so the technology, like how humans use technology becomes deeper and deeper into their everyday life.
• 1:00:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I think that the most obvious thing that is really happening, like, flock cameras come and go.
• 1:00:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, they've been tracking everything forever.
• 1:00:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: So it's like, you know, I mean, it feels good to bring down the flock cameras.
• 1:00:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: But if you really are going to be serious about it, like everything's under surveillance.
• 1:00:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: So it's like, you know, it's a big deal.
• 1:00:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: In a way, because it's always been that way.
• 1:00:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: the eradication of and the changing of like basically what I'll just call a gender in society in all of the different ways that you mean that and the insertion of technology into the gap which has been created like that is definitely happening and I've seen that escalate
• 1:01:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, my thought would be if we stay on this trajectory, like, just kind of playing it out, is there is going to be like that, the, it will be normal for people to like just all of their companions are robots.
• 1:01:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:01:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because they can't deal with any other human being anymore.
• 1:01:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: And like, and when that, and that's going to happen smoothly, I'm just going to have to smoothly like this, like, this tension, which we feel right now, which may never actually come to like a full on like purge and then like next thing you know, at least for some folks, like for some part of the population, like that becomes their reality.
• 1:01:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: I also think that like the one of the things which you hear being said in the, in like the analytical space is there's a cake curve happening, talking about two different trends are happening simultaneously and the cake curve means like one trend's going up and one trend's going down, not to say like good or bad, but there does seem to be
• 1:02:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: a very different group of, like a concentration of people who can see things differently in a way which has never been done before.
• 1:02:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I think that's kind of what Ron refers to when he says this space.
• 1:02:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's like people who are beginning to like,
• 1:02:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: not think about the news the way your grandparents thought of it or and and like also like put in all the other stuff which you've been conditioned with and you've gone through and the people who are kind of coming out the other side like what are they going to create.
• 1:03:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:03:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think you're going to see it.
• 1:03:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, I think there's no, there's been no other time like this, at least that we know of I think we are going to see the results, you know, that's I really believe that and I think, you know, I never thought that, you know, I'm older and both of you guys and I had no point in my life, I've had ever you always think it.
• 1:03:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: you'll see it someday or so one of these days, that's what happened.
• 1:03:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: I really think that we're going to see the results here in the next few years.
• 1:03:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: However, it's going to shake out.
• 1:03:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: I really do believe we are in it.
• 1:03:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to see it.
• 1:03:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: And, um,
• 1:03:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it'll be interesting to see how it all shakes out and and and how we ride this way if you know, but I wouldn't be shocked at anything.
• 1:03:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Go ahead, Mike, I just want to say I wanted everyone to get on the calendars like she'll legit Sheila J. M. 20 27 intern like it's going to be we're right now a cathedral we're right now my fucking cathedral and this is when it's all going to be revealed Satan's coming Satan that's chilling and he said line in the event.
• 1:04:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, speaking of that, so Shilajam has evolved this year.
• 1:04:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: It is now the infinite cypress.
• 1:04:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: So by the time this, the podcast drops, the Cypress will be over because it's this weekend.
• 1:04:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's going to be super exciting looking forward to that.
• 1:04:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: Mike, we wish you were here for this year.
• 1:04:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, that'll be fun.
• 1:04:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then I think we'll have Shilajam again next year in Torne.
• 1:04:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: That sounds great.
• 1:04:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: I love that.
• 1:04:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Or maybe in Greece.
• 1:04:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think you know, having it literally in Greece could be a good call.
• 1:04:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a national one on a national.
• 1:04:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:04:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: And Mark, you know, you were talking about the block cameras.
• 1:04:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, we're going to see what's going to replace the block cameras is going to be drones.
• 1:04:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be drone cameras flying above us.
• 1:04:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Remember the movie late they live where you put the glasses on and you would see the drones.
• 1:04:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's coming to a town near you super soon.
• 1:04:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure.
• 1:04:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: So that's that's we could take down as many
• 1:05:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: yeah unfortunately you you know legislation can be passed because there's a lot of talk about it being an unconstitutional so if that is the case yeah maybe they'd have to go to something like a spy drone but
• 1:05:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: you know.
• 1:05:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think we got bigger things to worry about.
• 1:05:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think when they start flipping on this 6G and they get all the jabbo walkies going and we get the Marburg virus that zombies rolling around.
• 1:05:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think that we are in for fireworks.
• 1:05:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: I really believe I think Mike all your dreams are going to come true.
• 1:05:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: It is going to be fireworks city.
• 1:05:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, my dreams are going to come true.
• 1:05:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: all of your dreams, everything you could ever imagine is coming to a town near you, probably right in your neighborhood, where you are right now.
• 1:05:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Man, I think we're gonna say it in very shallow, my dreams are coming true.
• 1:05:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's gonna happen.
• 1:05:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: I really see it.
• 1:05:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: They're gonna have a new virus and this one, this one may be real.
• 1:06:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, where people are actually do start dying, but it's probably you know, the more jellums and the Marburg go and off because it's a 6G and whatever the people
• 1:06:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that that's all of it's all of it's up for grabs, all of it's on the plates and who knows what we'll see.
• 1:06:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: It should be fun.
• 1:06:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure gas is going to be around 10 bucks a gallon.
• 1:06:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you can get to the zombies to get to the gas pumps, you know, you might be able to fill up.
• 1:06:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: So get away fun.
• 1:06:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking forward to it.
• 1:06:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not excited for that, but I guess if you take your shield legit, you'll be fine.
• 1:06:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, get your shield and get game on smash and you'll be good to go.
• 1:06:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, get your vitamins, get your minerals, you'll be able to fight those zombies.
• 1:06:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just worried about how are you going to find the other one we're planning for my game.
• 1:06:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're going to need it.
• 1:06:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Pretty sweet ride.
• 1:07:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: So those are all the images which the Hollywood gave us of what it would look like right like that's what we're pulling in from that so
• 1:07:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: If it happens, so imagine this mark, imagine like you're kind of mark, you're in your body and like the all the stuff happens this weekend, right, like you the shit hits the fan.
• 1:07:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: The shit hits the fan all the stuff which you were like you're thinking about, but then you also realize like there was something else that kind of shifted to it's like holy shit, I'm kind of like different with my body and in fact like this whole weird world, which like it's kind of working different with meat for me as well.
• 1:07:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: and you're not really certain exactly like the full extent of how much things have changed, but you're recognizing like something has changed also like everything changed, but it changed within your body and what you can do in the environment.
• 1:07:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm thinking something like that is so much more likely.
• 1:07:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like it's like, if the zombies come like, if you are crawling, quote, already in this space, something new is gonna pop up in your capability, ability, in how like, Mandela effect.
• 1:08:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, oh, I can't even remember the time when I couldn't put my hand through doors and grab it.
• 1:08:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm happy to see that.
• 1:08:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like shit just changes like it's because this place is weird it doesn't work in ways we don't quite understand and we hold in place what we think is going to happen.
• 1:08:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like it's just how human consciousness works so it's like we can play with that too.
• 1:08:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, essentially I like it.
• 1:08:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Don't you put that fucking 1990s new age as sentient will cocked it out of my words like because that's part of it as well I'm not talking that I'm talking about something which is like you can't think of like you could just kind of like brush up against Because the moment you start putting your story around it when I say you I mean anyone that story was undoubtedly formed by the thing which you want to be different from
• 1:09:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: So you can't do it.
• 1:09:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: All you can just do is like sense, like, well, one of there's a version of it, like none of that shit really affected me.
• 1:09:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, how would that play out and just kind of sit there?
• 1:09:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's how I like to, that's how I like to meet my wildest dreams of apocalypse.
• 1:09:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, what if, and like that's like a rhetorical question, which is not meant to be answered.
• 1:09:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like what if?
• 1:09:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: And like this is like that's how mind control works.
• 1:09:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:09:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: Mind control works this way.
• 1:09:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: The fact that if anyone has a stock answer response to like anything which is within the realm of the paradigm, it's like that's the feedback loop.
• 1:09:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: And how you break that is like literally a pause and you detarch it.
• 1:09:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: You ask the same question, you don't answer it and you just hold it without like giving a fuck.
• 1:10:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: Mike, that is a great path to go on right now.
• 1:10:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'd love to tap into that because, you know, we live in a fear-based kind of trauma-conditioning society.
• 1:10:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it keeps us from tapping into our true nature, you know what I mean?
• 1:10:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you're exactly right.
• 1:10:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: And what are we going to, like all these rabbit holes are great?
• 1:10:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: What are we going to do with this knowledge?
• 1:10:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, what are we going to do with this?
• 1:10:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: With what were the neck of cards we've been dealt, right?
• 1:10:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: So
• 1:10:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's fascinating.
• 1:10:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: And for me, that's really the game is trying to live in this insane realm and not get to draw it into, you know, the fear and the conditioning that keeps us.
• 1:10:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: off the track and keeps us from realizing our true potential, you know, and that's hard to do.
• 1:10:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's hard to do because people worry about money.
• 1:10:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: They worry about the kids.
• 1:10:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: They worry about paying their bills.
• 1:10:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: They know all the real shit in this realm.
• 1:10:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's real stuff.
• 1:10:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would add a clarifying all the real shit of the paradigm.
• 1:11:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: of the paradigm.
• 1:11:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because that doesn't exist.
• 1:11:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: You don't pay your bills.
• 1:11:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: All of those problems are defined by the paradigm.
• 1:11:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's what the feedback loop looks like.
• 1:11:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: You look like, well, how do I get out of it?
• 1:11:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, well, that's fair question.
• 1:11:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: But before you go into like starting to go down that angle, you have to recognize the truth of what you're saying.
• 1:11:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like the problems which you're describing, where do they exist?
• 1:11:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you're exactly right.
• 1:11:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that's why I love
• 1:11:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: But to the average person, and all of us included here, like those are the typical worries of the paradigm.
• 1:11:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is the paradigm system that we are subscribed to from historical data, right?
• 1:11:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, but these are the worries of the collective.
• 1:11:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: But how do we how do we realize where we are and realize the charade, you know, so we're pulling the veil from a lot of these things as we see through it, we, you know, we touch a lot of things today, but the beef of all of this.
• 1:12:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: is is the conversation you're having right now because that's where the magic sauce is.
• 1:12:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: How do we break free from the grips of this matrix?
• 1:12:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's first realizing all of this, but then having the armor to fight it every day because it's challenging.
• 1:12:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
• 1:12:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's challenging no matter how much work you've done to pull the veil off as well.
• 1:12:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, so.
• 1:12:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I think that's important and I think you really bring some great perspective on that in helping us helping the collective kind of manage the stress of dealing with this and giving them tips and ways to to kind of breakthrough it.
• 1:12:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:12:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like I think that this is what you specialize in helping people, you know, bust through the matrix and first understand the matrix like you're a wizard at that and I was appreciate that about you.
• 1:12:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I can't articulate it as well as you can, but I think this would be a wonderful way for you to give us a little lesson about all of this to help us manage this madness, Mike.
• 1:13:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: You want me to do that right now?
• 1:13:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:13:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: I want you to do that right now.
• 1:13:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think we can all take away a little something from this podcast that we can, it doesn't have to be long and lengthy, but just, you know, how much other time?
• 1:13:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right.
• 1:13:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right, all right.
• 1:13:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because I think that's a really valid question and realistically most people, even those who think they are, like they don't want to hear that answer because they're already
• 1:13:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: We don't know what this place is, but what perpetuates the misery, I guess, if you will, or like, you know, why, why does it suck?
• 1:13:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's like the way we, we collectively hold it in place and consciousness that realizing we are doing that.
• 1:13:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, that's where the trick is like that's like if you've ever tried to do like like a move like if you've seen someone who they do like some sort of move like whether it's a dance move or a martial arts move or whether it's like like any sort of like sport move and like I'm looking at him doing it and I'm like it they look so easy but my I can't quite figure it out yet so this is kind of like that but it's within consciousness.
• 1:14:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, what perpetuate, what is always perpetuated this, the mind, the mind control game is the fact that the way consciousness works, um, the people whose consciousness was shaped by the very machine itself.
• 1:14:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: So they're going to think from the machine.
• 1:14:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: So when they saw the machine and the machine's values, they felt like at home.
• 1:14:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: What that looks like in real world like talking like I'll give an example like I see this a lot and this is just my perspective and I'm not saying this From a judgmental perspective judgmental meaning like I think that my values are better and I see that they're different than yours and you're doing it not up to my values I don't mean like judgmental like that.
• 1:15:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm saying this in observational discernment like oh, this is what's happening.
• 1:15:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let me just like like lay it out
• 1:15:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, what I'm seeing a lot of is, um, people who like on a certain level are able to see through the, um,
• 1:15:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: the layer of trickery and the bill of goods they were sold about what life is supposed to be like and and people are beginning to recognize like okay it doesn't work that way or they're beginning to recognize like whatever the structure is which is holding this place so like electro magnetically like the people who get into understanding like all of the electro
• 1:15:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: They see that, they get that clearly, but then they're applying that back into the paradigm.
• 1:16:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: What are the values, so the values, which have been given to them in the paradigm?
• 1:16:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: So that would include like, you know, how much money am I gonna make?
• 1:16:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: How am I gonna be able to buy the house?
• 1:16:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna go get the land.
• 1:16:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh shit, you know what I'm gonna do?
• 1:16:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna go and I need to get a million dollars so I can get these 50 acres and then I'm gonna build it.
• 1:16:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's the fucking paradigm.
• 1:16:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's like a speech story, but it's like, and that's what I mean.
• 1:16:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't mean that judge mentally, but what I mean is like, there's a feedback loop.
• 1:16:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: There's a feedback loop which goes into the paradigm.
• 1:16:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: And the reason why that happens is because you are shaped by it.
• 1:16:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like there's no one, no one does anything wrong.
• 1:16:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: There's nothing shameful for like, oh, like I'm continuing this thing,
• 1:16:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we don't even think twice about it.
• 1:16:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: We are so conditioned on all these avenues that it's not even a forethought.
• 1:16:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's just something that we do that we don't know why.
• 1:16:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, in my opinion, like one of the best things, like the most important thing an individual can do right about now is begin to recognize,
• 1:17:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: where that truth exists within them and they are acting from that position of what's been programmed.
• 1:17:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like sometimes you'll call that the false self, but that's a term that has a lot of connotation.
• 1:17:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: So that's a thing because until you
• 1:17:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's not so much like let me go and find my authentic self, as much as it is the opposite, which is when am I going to recognize that I'm stepping into what I've been programmed through experience to be.
• 1:17:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, recognizing when that's happening and the very fact that you recognize when that's happening is an indication that you are you've created the space to step away from it.
• 1:17:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's a muscle.
• 1:17:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's a muscle.
• 1:17:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Everyone needs to build.
• 1:17:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like that's that's part of it.
• 1:17:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 1:18:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: End.
• 1:18:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's only if that's happening, like, like, and that includes a lot of different things.
• 1:18:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's not always like a, like, personal things as it relates to, um, as it relates to, like, you know, the traumas of being raised, but it's just like everyone learning the same counting system and learning the same days of the week and everyone agreeing because we are like the species that holds that together.
• 1:18:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: So the point being is like that needs to be loosened up in order for then someone to show up, particularly in this time.
• 1:18:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: because what's going to happen is the system is going in a certain way.
• 1:18:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's what I meant like the trajectory of the system.
• 1:18:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's going down like we're going to continue it all for more and more computer shit.
• 1:18:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: And we're going to continue to make like 10 like everyone crazy and crazy and crazy and everyone's going to start fucking the robots.
• 1:18:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, and what's going to fucking be any more so much easier so much fucking like they're going to convince that.
• 1:19:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: They're going to
• 1:19:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, so that's a trajectory that's definitely happening, and that's going to pull people down, even pull people in that direction, even if even if they don't, like they see that they don't want to go into it, if they don't begin to realize like how they're understanding themselves in life, their life is coming from that thing that was created by the system.
• 1:19:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 1:19:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: There's another way to know,
• 1:19:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is a tricky piece of advice, but it's true.
• 1:19:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is a way to know that you are not acting from that position.
• 1:19:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: You don't give a fuck.
• 1:19:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: The part of you that gives a fuck is the part of you that was created by the system.
• 1:19:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's why you're going to go fight it.
• 1:19:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: That doesn't mean become an asshole.
• 1:19:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: That doesn't mean to stop caring.
• 1:19:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: It means to recognize like and think about how hard it is to like stop giving a fuck about something which like you want to stop giving a fuck about something but like a fuck I can't stop thinking about it.
• 1:20:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
• 1:20:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because that's the part of you that's attached to it.
• 1:20:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm saying that with passion, because this is like you're beginning to see the boundary.
• 1:20:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: All these shit, okay, this is real.
• 1:20:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: I can't stop from feeling this, but I can, I can know that I don't want to feel this way.
• 1:20:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: I want to stop feeling this way.
• 1:20:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: That is, I'm giving you a map of your inner world.
• 1:20:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like when you can literally, like when you've gotten in the position,
• 1:20:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: not all the time when you get to this place, but usually if you get to the position where it doesn't matter what's gonna happen is what's gonna happen.
• 1:20:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't really give a fuck and I'm gonna meet whatever happens.
• 1:20:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: I might have preferences, I prefer for this to happen, but what's gonna happen is gonna happen.
• 1:20:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think you are right and I'll accept the badge that you gave to me, Ron, when you said like you know that I'm in a position to talk about this because particularly at this time, here's my opinion, my opinion is I don't, my opinion, my prayer.
• 1:21:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like I've got a whole sort of thing with the way I hold my energy and there's a prayer which I hold it with and my prayer is like, it goes like this.
• 1:21:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let me hold the space for something new to unfold and so I don't know what that means.
• 1:21:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, so you gave me the opportunity to say like,
• 1:21:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, what's your opinion, you know, you're in a good position right now to speak upon this and because I'm seeing what's going on in the world and I could see these trajectories, but I also know how this strange realm works, it is, it's of probabilities and not definite and so.
• 1:21:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: by me holding an experiencing a certain level of like, I'm letting go of all this shit.
• 1:22:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like I don't think everyone needs to go and dive as deep into letting go of everything to move through this transition.
• 1:22:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I've held the energy to know what it's like, to do that.
• 1:22:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: And it's like, you would know and you have done this for me is like, there is a structure which will hold you.
• 1:22:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: You don't know what it is and that's what part of like moving through this you will learn is like you can't plan for what's going to come.
• 1:22:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: And that's what that's how you would meet what may or may not be coming in the future, which is completely based the system is based upon making everyone scared to shed.
• 1:22:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:22:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: I knew where to go for the answers Mike.
• 1:22:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know.
• 1:22:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was in that you have and you're right, like it's it's having an awareness of the program and slowly to touch and you can't detach completely overnight, but it's a process and all of us are in a different phase of it and it's okay wherever we are, you know, but it's continuing that having an awareness and listening to someone like you that can articulate it so well and just being able to understand it and accept it and move through it as gracefully as possible and I thank you for being able to express that to us.
• 1:23:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I got to say I can't wait to meet your robot girlfriend.
• 1:23:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: She's going to be super awesome.
• 1:23:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure and I'm sure you're going to bring her first on your first, maybe your second day video.
• 1:23:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking forward to that day.
• 1:23:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: For sure.
• 1:23:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'll let you know what you're, what you're in for.
• 1:23:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Mark, don't worry.
• 1:23:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you pass with my test and we'll bring it up there.
• 1:23:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I think that's right info Mike and you know, I appreciate it.
• 1:23:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I know the audience does it, especially like your listeners and the people that follow you like that's why we enjoy you because you have that insight that you know, I'm doing this for a long time.
• 1:23:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I can't always put it together.
• 1:23:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I call you all the time and go, Mike, what the hell's going on?
• 1:24:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: Help me, you know, help me turn this out and you do.
• 1:24:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: So that's what you bring.
• 1:24:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: We all bring a little special piece of the pie to this party, Mike.
• 1:24:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so.
• 1:24:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you appreciate that so Mark we're going to give the mic back to you here because I know we've been going back and forth for quite a while
• 1:24:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Tell me you can live stream it on this weekend.
• 1:24:40
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• 1:24:42
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• 1:24:51
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• 1:24:52
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• 1:24:58
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• 1:25:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, so we're looking forward to that.
• 1:25:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're looking forward to continue growing.
• 1:25:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, we just opened up a men's formula of shiligids and we have a new bi-medics for pet spread in the works right now.
• 1:25:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: So that's gonna be awesome.
• 1:25:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think you don't even know about that.
• 1:25:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, baby, we're working on it right here.
• 1:25:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: When you're not in the state where we get back to work.
• 1:25:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: So that's what we're doing, my friend.
• 1:25:30
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• 1:25:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm crazy as always.
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• 1:25:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: So good stuff.
• 1:25:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate both of you guys doing everything you do.
• 1:25:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Mark, thank you so much for having me.
• 1:25:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: What a surprise to have Mike help co-host this talk today.
• 1:25:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I always love chat when Mike's around.
• 1:25:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: I can tell you that.
• 1:25:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: The flow doesn't stop and we definitely got into a whole bunch of stuff.
• 1:26:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're still more left on the table, so yeah, definitely going to have you back out in the future or maybe get into the orphan train stuff.
• 1:26:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, I could go on for days like I have so much stuff here, you know, my collection of cabbage patch postcards and orphan trains and all that stuff.
• 1:26:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: I love to talk about that stuff, Mike and I enjoy the conversation back and forth, so, you know, I'd love to come back often and, you know, just chop it up and talk about this stuff because it's fun to go down these rabbit holes and to also try to make sense of this crazy space that we're in as well.
• 1:26:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I enjoy it and I'd love to come back soon, my friend.
• 1:26:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: You can all aboard the Orphan train.
• 1:26:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Right on.
• 1:26:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: That sounds like a good place to end it.
• 1:26:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're back with another episode soon.
• 1:26:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you all for listening and until the next episode, I'm more sure self in the moment where we are in the map.
• 1:26:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's that folks.
• 1:26:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Think of a tuning in.
• 1:27:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Mike has mentioned several times how much he enjoys joining me for interviews.
• 1:27:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: So,
• 1:27:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what it is.
• 1:27:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be kind of like a part-time co-host whenever I decide I'd like to have him along.
• 1:27:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: He'll be here.
• 1:27:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not just for guests that he's friends with, but for anybody.
• 1:27:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, yeah.
• 1:27:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: You have any guest suggestions, send them over to me at my family.
• 1:27:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Think some crazy on Instagram, MFTICpodcast at gmail.com.
• 1:27:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, if you have a guest in mind for this show or for this show with Mike Juan, please specify.
• 1:27:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Mike is also going to be more active with his Suss-Gohana alchemy podcast feed, which does have a ton of episodes already on it.
• 1:27:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you haven't subscribed to his Sasquan al-Kamifi, do that now.
• 1:27:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, thanks everybody, and we'll catch you on the next episode until then, and let yourself in the moment wherever you are in the now.