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Nice to MEAT You, Pinky: RHOA Recap with Dustin, Claudia & Blue · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well.
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  Speaker 2: So in some very unfortunate news, jue So Dora has
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  Speaker 2: accused her strange husband Ralph, of allegedly beating their son.
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  Speaker 3: She dropped this bombshell abuse claim about Wrap.
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  Speaker 2: According to court documents, Drew made the case for the
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  Speaker 2: judge presiding over the divorce to reconsider the decision ordering
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  Speaker 2: the reality start to vacate the Georgia homes she shares
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  Speaker 2: with the Rap by the end of the month. Drew
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  Speaker 2: told the court she doesn't have the funds and would
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  Speaker 2: be homeless. In addition to that, she did submit evidence,
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  Speaker 2: which is a video in which Rap allegedly could be
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  Speaker 2: heard severely beating the party's son.
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  Speaker 3: She meeting jus.
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  Speaker 2: Dora takes issues with being ordered to be out of
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  Speaker 2: the home, and also claims that Rap admitted that they
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  Speaker 2: are twenty five thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 3: Behind on the mortgage payments.
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  Speaker 2: She also said that she gave Ralph half her check
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  Speaker 2: that she was making on the Real Housewives of Atlanta.
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  Speaker 2: For the record, Ralph Pittman has denied all of these allegations.
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  Speaker 3: Claudia, let's start with you. What are your thoughts on
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  Speaker 3: all of this.
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  Speaker 4: I like to talk to my cousin first before I judge.
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  Speaker 4: Now say this, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if I.
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  Speaker 4: Believe that she gave hyper check to him. Why would she?
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  Speaker 4: He makes all that money, right, you know, I'm like.
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  Speaker 3: I will say this and my frozen am I good?
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  Speaker 6: You were?
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  Speaker 4: And you are with mouth open too for a long time.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that's between the hours of midnight.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you know that's my peak time.
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  Speaker 3: Oh okay.
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  Speaker 2: So the thing is, so when I go on TMZ
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  Speaker 2: all of those ads and stuff, it messes on my
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  Speaker 2: Wi Fi.
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  Speaker 3: So because I was reading a barbadim obviously.
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  Speaker 6: So.
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  Speaker 3: But the thing is this, Claudia said she doesn't believe
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  Speaker 3: that Drew Gabe Rap happicks check. Now, I don't. I
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  Speaker 3: think that's a that's a lot to give.
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  Speaker 2: But what I will say is Claudia, you know, Cynthia
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  Speaker 2: Bailly has admitted, and a lot of housewives do do this.
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  Speaker 3: They give their husbands.
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  Speaker 2: A percentage right of their earnings because their husbands don't
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  Speaker 2: get paid by Bravo at all. I believe Syntha gave Peter,
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  Speaker 2: I think twenty percent. Candy has admitted to giving Todd something,
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  Speaker 2: so yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I believe, yeah, she probably. I'm sure she gave him something,
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  Speaker 4: because you know, I do think the men should be
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  Speaker 4: compensated for what they bring to the shows. I do
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  Speaker 4: think that's kind of a crazy policy. I really do.
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  Speaker 4: And I think you know, you want them to show
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  Speaker 4: their real lives and their men. The men got stuff
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  Speaker 4: to do and they should be They shouldn't be treated
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  Speaker 4: like extras. Even extras get paid. Actually, but half your check,
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  Speaker 4: I hope that's not true. Cousin, cousin, you should have
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  Speaker 4: called me. We could have talked at the family reunion.
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  Speaker 4: We could have talked about this, not half. Not if
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  Speaker 4: he's making seventy some thousand dollars a month, and I
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  Speaker 4: you know, we on two. You know what I'm saying, Like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know about that. I haven't
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  Speaker 4: a chance to ask her, so I don't really know.
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  Speaker 4: But it sounds like I hope, I hope it's not true.
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  Speaker 4: I hope it's not true.
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  Speaker 5: Half of what though, like, what is?
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  Speaker 2: What is?
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  Speaker 5: The My thing is? I heard twelve thousand dollars? Do
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  Speaker 5: you all think that's the real number?
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  Speaker 6: No?
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  Speaker 4: No, he's gotten a nice pack to be in Housewives
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  Speaker 4: this many years. Yeahk On calls his face right now, Colos,
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  Speaker 4: keep that same look if she makes over four hundred thousand, Yep,
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  Speaker 4: that's so funny, that same look, Colors, if we're all
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  Speaker 4: going on tour, I am.
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  Speaker 7: He spoke the same damn text messages that Drew sent
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  Speaker 7: to him right where she was saying she gave him
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  Speaker 7: half of that money and ship. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 7: It was also said that he had this huge inflated
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  Speaker 7: and come. But listen, if if there were really abuse thing,
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  Speaker 7: if there were really actions that were abusive going on
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  Speaker 7: from Ralph towards her son or their son in that household,
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  Speaker 7: that shame on Ralph, shame on whoever.
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  Speaker 6: Allowed it to happen. But it seems retaliatory.
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  Speaker 7: The accusation does, because it did not come out until
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  Speaker 7: after Ralph had this win, this random ass win in court. Right,
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  Speaker 7: We've heard from Ralph in the context of the court documents,
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  Speaker 7: court proceedings and reacting to shit like that, but he
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  Speaker 7: ain't really been in the headlines like.
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  Speaker 6: That, you know.
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  Speaker 7: And Drew has responded to all of these things, and
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  Speaker 7: it just seems retaliatory.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 7: I don't want to negate the allegation because if it happened,
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  Speaker 7: then fuck Ralph, fuck everybody that abused that boy, you know.
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  Speaker 7: But it's just random that it came out after he
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  Speaker 7: had this win that was going to unhouse Drew in
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  Speaker 7: that way, which she ain't broke.
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  Speaker 6: We know she can get another place to live. We
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  Speaker 6: know what's going on.
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  Speaker 7: Obviously, her money, the larger payout from her participation on
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  Speaker 7: these shows. I'm assuming it is being issued to you know,
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  Speaker 7: another entity at LLC, some shit like that. So that's
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  Speaker 7: what I think is going on. But it's just gone
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  Speaker 7: too far, and I really hope that this accusation was
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  Speaker 7: not revealed in a retaliatory manner because it involves her son,
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  Speaker 7: and Drew has never struck me as a type of
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  Speaker 7: mother who was dismissive or abusive to her son in
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  Speaker 7: that way or obtuse of his emotional needs. She seems
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  Speaker 7: like a loving mother. I will say that that's never
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  Speaker 7: been questioned in question for me, based on what the
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  Speaker 7: ways I've seen her interact with her kids. So I
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  Speaker 7: would hate for her to be weaponizing a story like that,
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  Speaker 7: or making up a story like that, whatever.
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  Speaker 6: I just think the timing is fucked up, that's all.
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  Speaker 8: I'm nervous about the timing because because Drew is such
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  Speaker 8: a loving mother, I find it hard to understand or
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  Speaker 8: even think of a of a time where someone like
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  Speaker 8: her would have known that and not told us immediately
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  Speaker 8: and not made it an urgency for the court to
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  Speaker 8: know immediately.
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  Speaker 5: That's why I'm confused.
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  Speaker 8: She seems like the kind of mother that would very
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  Speaker 8: urgently want that out there as a way to protect
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  Speaker 8: her and her check, particularly if housing is on the
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  Speaker 8: table right and so I would like her to answer
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  Speaker 8: the gap. But I'm not one of the people who says,
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  Speaker 8: why do victims wait a long time? I'm not one
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  Speaker 8: of those. I'm saying, an active thing that's happening in
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  Speaker 8: the household with the child, there's.
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  Speaker 5: An urgency to that. That's because you're not the victim,
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  Speaker 5: the child is, so as the advocate.
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  Speaker 8: That's very different. And I have a hard time seeing
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  Speaker 8: Drew do that. So I don't know, Sis, why why'd
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  Speaker 8: you if he is doing it, why did you wait
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  Speaker 8: so long? Did he threaten you? Did he do something worse?
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  Speaker 8: Because that could actually help your case, you know what
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  Speaker 8: I mean? So what we're hearing feels half baked. Something
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  Speaker 8: is missing from this story, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I was thinking after like, I was like, why y'all
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  Speaker 4: talking like hmm, thinking about dealing with like and another
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  Speaker 4: word narcissisticans thrown around so much, and I'm sorry that
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  Speaker 4: in my brand. I'm so sick of hand people saying
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  Speaker 4: that Okay, oh god, irritating, so irritating. But like when
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  Speaker 4: you are, okay, two things. When you're on a reality show,
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  Speaker 4: optics are everything, right, Optics, especially in Atlanta, optics are everything,
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  Speaker 4: and a lot of times and we're seeing now it's
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  Speaker 4: even candy and tide. And like other people, once they
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  Speaker 4: break up, like when they're together, you kind of protect them.
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  Speaker 4: You don't say the thing. Although abuse is where I
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  Speaker 4: would definitely do abuse. I definitely would, But a lot
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  Speaker 4: of times these people try to keep this facade, these
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  Speaker 4: facades up about their lives, especially in a reality show,
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  Speaker 4: because you know, that's fodder for the reunion. It's it's
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  Speaker 4: farted for a blog. So I understand, Like, maybe I'm
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  Speaker 4: just trying to think like open minded. Maybe there's a
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  Speaker 4: world where you did see certain things and like you wait,
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  Speaker 4: now that it's all blown up, you like it. I'm
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  Speaker 4: just gonna say the thing. And then if anyone's ever
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  Speaker 4: dealt with being in a relationship where the guy is
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  Speaker 4: a narcissist, it is one of the most confusing things
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  Speaker 4: because the most confident person will look down at themselves
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  Speaker 4: after being with someone for a few months or a
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  Speaker 4: year and be like, I cannot believe I reacted like this,
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  Speaker 4: So I can't believe I didn't fight back myself when
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  Speaker 4: I can't believe I thought I was crazy and I
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  Speaker 4: thought I was wrong. This person made me feel like
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  Speaker 4: I was wrong and I and I did not move
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  Speaker 4: the way I usually move. That's been my experience, and like,
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  Speaker 4: I look back and I'm mad at the person I
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  Speaker 4: was when I was dealing with someone that had a
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  Speaker 4: hold on me, you know, And he was a better explainer,
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  Speaker 4: he was better with the media game you know, if
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  Speaker 4: the person is better at putting the image out where
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  Speaker 4: you know the guy that everyone thinks man, but he's
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  Speaker 4: so cool to me and all, Really it must be you.
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  Speaker 4: You must be the problem. You know, you'll be lying.
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  Speaker 4: It's easy. I'm trying to.
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  Speaker 5: But that's why I'm confused. Ralph was seen as a
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  Speaker 5: loser universally for years.
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  Speaker 4: Like it almost felt like maybe not to hear them, yeah.
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  Speaker 8: But because but because he was a punchline for so
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  Speaker 8: long and from the beginning, and it involves a child,
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  Speaker 8: and it could help her case. I think that's why
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  Speaker 8: I'm confused about this case specifically, where normally I would
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  Speaker 8: understand and by the way to the thing that Claudia's
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  Speaker 8: saying about, why did I do that? When your cortosol
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  Speaker 8: levels are heightened because you are in an abusive relationship,
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  Speaker 8: it actually eats a way the part of your brain
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  Speaker 8: that has executive functioning. So people don't understand domestic violence
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  Speaker 8: victims have brain damage. If you look at the messic
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  Speaker 8: Brolin's victim's brain, the cortisol, the stress actually eats a
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  Speaker 8: weight at their brain. So it's not just oh, a
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  Speaker 8: character thing, I'm a badass bitch, their brains are being
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  Speaker 8: altered by the abuse.
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  Speaker 7: My thing is this involves first of all, thank you
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  Speaker 7: for that Blue, because that is a critically important detail,
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  Speaker 7: right like that would affect judgment, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 7: And so that's why that's relevant. I just think that,
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  Speaker 7: like I said, Drew appears to really love her children,
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  Speaker 7: and I don't think for one second, especially in the
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  Speaker 7: throes of a tumultuous divorce, I don't think that Drew
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  Speaker 7: would allow casually allow or passively allow her son to
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  Speaker 7: be physically abused in any way, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 7: And also on some real shit, Claudia, that's your girl.
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  Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, and I'm a stand behind
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  Speaker 7: mind is the same motherfucking way. So I'm not even
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  Speaker 7: negating like what Drew is saying or nothing like that, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: All.
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  Speaker 6: No, I am very biased. Call it what you want.
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  Speaker 7: I honestly could give a fuck, But like I'm biased
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  Speaker 7: when I just like everybody on this panel, I defend
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  Speaker 7: in other spaces, this space, any space. I'm like that
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  Speaker 7: about my friends. So Claudia, I ain't mad at you.
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  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you? And then defensive. I haven't spoken to her
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  Speaker 4: about it, and I don't see her though it talks
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  Speaker 4: that much. We like have a little group chat here
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  Speaker 4: and there. But I was just trying to think about,
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  Speaker 4: like time that I've been with a guy that I
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  Speaker 4: did not want the public like I was the name
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  Speaker 4: or I was people that like they talked about more right,
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  Speaker 4: and you want to protect them, like so you keep
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  Speaker 4: the secrets, you don't say the thing. Of course they
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  Speaker 4: be things different, But like I look back and I
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  Speaker 4: want to slap my old self, Like I can't believe
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  Speaker 4: I was that weak. I can't believe I move like that.
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  Speaker 4: I would never move like that now, I would never
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  Speaker 4: ever do that. I'm just thinking of a possibility. Or
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  Speaker 4: she's waiting to the divorce got ugly and she's dropping
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  Speaker 4: a bot on him. I'm gonna call her and asking.
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  Speaker 2: But the thing is this, I listen, anytime a child
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  Speaker 2: is involved and there's allegations of abuse that us it
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  Speaker 2: takes things to a different level to where concerned. At
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  Speaker 2: this point, it's the safety of the kid. Those are
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  Speaker 2: our doghin situation. I agree with all three of you
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  Speaker 2: guys in the sense of if that was going on
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  Speaker 2: for so long, then what was happening in that moment
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  Speaker 2: and listen, only she can answer that, and only he
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  Speaker 2: can answer that. And I want to say, because you
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  Speaker 2: know we are journalists.
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  Speaker 3: He has denied all allegations, yeah, saying that it isn't true.
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  Speaker 2: And her documents have stated that she has provided video
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  Speaker 2: evidence that we haven't seen. So we don't know what
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  Speaker 2: that video evidence that she provided to the judge, what
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  Speaker 2: that looks like. But I think at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the day, all of us can agree we want the
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  Speaker 2: best for then Z.
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  Speaker 4: Says, if you go back when Drew first came on,
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  Speaker 4: she speaks to Ralph about how he was treating her
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  Speaker 4: oldest son in an episode, do you remember.
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  Speaker 3: That, I don't.
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  Speaker 6: I don't.
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  Speaker 5: I wasn't abou abust. I don't remember it being with an.
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  Speaker 2: Abuse it though, right, yeah, that's the comment. I don't
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  Speaker 2: remember that personally. But again, these are things that the
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  Speaker 2: court will obviously figure out. Speaking of the court, Kenya
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  Speaker 2: Moore unfortunately has been evicted from the building in which
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  Speaker 2: she was housing her Kenyamore Hairspo. Video footage surface Friday
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  Speaker 2: morning to where some of her furniture was out on
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  Speaker 2: the streets.
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  Speaker 3: Britt Edie decided to drive by in her Maybox truck,
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  Speaker 3: shrinking her head.
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  Speaker 2: Kenya Moore did release a statement where she says, I
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  Speaker 2: have spent the last several weeks moving out of my
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  Speaker 2: salon as a result of my ongoing legal battle with
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  Speaker 2: the landlord, who has failed to reimburse me nearly eighty
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars of improvement funds. I'm vifullly owed. My only
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  Speaker 2: recourse was to withhold Brandt and file a counter suit.
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  Speaker 2: I already have my outfit laid out for court child.
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  Speaker 3: Starting with you justin what do you think about this?
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  Speaker 2: And what are your thoughts on brat Edie driving by
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  Speaker 2: and being videotape doing so.
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  Speaker 7: First of all, I'm laughing at you reading the quote,
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  Speaker 7: because what did she say about her outfit for court Carlos.
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  Speaker 3: I already got my outfit picked out a court.
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  Speaker 7: Child, Okay, So I'm gonna keep it real. Kenya Moore
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  Speaker 7: is a black woman from Detroit raising a beautiful black daughter.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not gonna laugh at her misfortune full stop for me,
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  Speaker 7: right because it's not personal.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not a cast member on the show.
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  Speaker 7: She ain't never done shit to me, you know what,
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  Speaker 7: I'm saying, so I'm not gonna laugh at her misfortune.
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  Speaker 7: That being said, had Kenya showed a poster board to
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  Speaker 7: me sucking a dick okay in the environment that I
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  Speaker 7: didn't want nobody to see me doing that, Absolutely, I
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  Speaker 7: don't care. If I was rolling in the Geo tracker,
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  Speaker 7: I would have rolled right through that motherfucking parking lot
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  Speaker 7: and showed the shit on the curve. So I understand
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  Speaker 7: both sides. I'm not saying that it's right because to me, again,
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  Speaker 7: I'm not gonna laugh at nobody's misfortune myself, But had
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  Speaker 7: you done something egregious to me, I would laugh at
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  Speaker 7: you and encourage others to do so as well.
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  Speaker 6: So I understand why Bride did it.
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  Speaker 7: I also am so sick of everything related to the
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  Speaker 7: brit Edie and Kenya more conflict that fucking ruined season
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  Speaker 7: sixteen for all the Real Housewives of Atlanta loyalists and
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  Speaker 7: viewers from day one who have been waiting on the
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  Speaker 7: motherfucking show to come back, excited about the new faces
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  Speaker 7: and ready to see Kenya at Porsche Shine as a
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  Speaker 7: duo presiding amongst the cast. So there's a group of
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  Speaker 7: us that's still fucking pissed about being robbed of season rope,
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  Speaker 7: especially after we had to deal with season fifteen and
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  Speaker 7: Marlowe throwing spaghetti at the motherfucking wall, trying to find conflicts,
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  Speaker 7: and being let down by Marlowe, who we loved and
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  Speaker 7: still loved but were disappointed in because we had had
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  Speaker 7: such high hopes for her. Okay, so we have residual
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  Speaker 7: hurt from season fifth from season fifteen. We were even
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  Speaker 7: more pissed in season sixteen. So hearing this during season
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  Speaker 7: seventeen is triggering for a person like me who watched
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  Speaker 7: the show from day one. That being said, I'm not
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  Speaker 7: gonna laugh at Kenya getting evicted from the salon because
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  Speaker 7: it's simply not funny to me. I can understand why
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  Speaker 7: someone who has a personal vendetta with her would, right,
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  Speaker 7: let's keep it real, but it's not funny to me.
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  Speaker 6: That's it.
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  Speaker 4: Here's my thing. Britt Eadie, Why would you do that if,
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  Speaker 4: alexibly it was not you and the pictures sucking said
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  Speaker 4: dick rights. If the dick doesn't quit, you must get
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  Speaker 4: over it, Okay, So why are you driving by the
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  Speaker 4: salon laughing at another black woman's misfortune and business over
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  Speaker 4: a fake ass story because if someone put a poster
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  Speaker 4: up of I don't know one of my friends or
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  Speaker 4: coworkers or a woman that I can't even identify that
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  Speaker 4: look like me, and I'm like this on the picture, right,
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  Speaker 4: but it ain't really me. I could be mad when
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: it was implied, but once it came out that it
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: wasn't me, why am I still holding onto that brick?
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: You're still trying to get relevancy off this beef with
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: Kenymore because if it wasn't me, it's like case's closes. Yeah,
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: I may have some bad feelings about you how I
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: went down on the season, and you definitely have a
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: rite for that, because y'all definitely y'all went at it.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: I get I told you understand you can have that,
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: But like, what is a year later, they're halfway through
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: the new season. They finished filming the new season, and
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: you're doing this, so you got dressed, dropped one of
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: your friends off, got the camera and position, they filmed
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: you driving up and you drove off. That shows that
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: you are too corny to be on the show. And yes,
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: we did have high hosts because you can dress well,
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: but you're annoying your bootleg NICKI minaj in the face
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: and in the attitude, your your your ten year old.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: You're irritating. So you are exactly where you're supposed to be,
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: not working. And how's that real estate going? Since you
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: want to laugh at other people whose business are not
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: doing well, how's yours going? Because you had time during
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: the day to go buy a salon and laugh at
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: another woman who's I don't want even the girls I want.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: I don't want any of their business to fail, even phasia.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: I just want how to win more cases. Like Cynthia
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: Billy said, you know what I mean, but like I
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: I yeah, like no, I want, I want them to
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: do well. They're black women. So I thought that was
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: corny grit and but you know what I'm trying to
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: do balanced since I'm with libras or Libray. You your
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: silace had you dressed in your ass off and you
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: looked you looked great. You could have should have water.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: But that was corny.
• 19:00
  Speaker 8: I couldn't even tell what kind of outfit she had
• 19:01
  Speaker 8: on because I was waiting for her to blow her
• 19:02
  Speaker 8: nose the whole season. I think britt Idy is a
• 19:05
  Speaker 8: wet fart. She's a staying on the legacy of the
• 19:08
  Speaker 8: show I think about her, I get PTSD for all
• 19:11
  Speaker 8: the reasons that Dustin said.
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: Cannot stand that lady. Think she's corny as hell.
• 19:16
  Speaker 8: Also as someone who makes a significant amount of money
• 19:19
  Speaker 8: but had a nightmare landlord that caused me a lot
• 19:22
  Speaker 8: that I loved and invested thousands of dollars in. Let's
• 19:25
  Speaker 8: not be quick to assume that Kenya is lying, because
• 19:28
  Speaker 8: I have been in her position where I invested a
• 19:31
  Speaker 8: lot of money and refurbishing a space house on business
• 19:33
  Speaker 8: out of I had a landlord who was not doing
• 19:36
  Speaker 8: what they needed to I reported them, and because they
• 19:38
  Speaker 8: would not do what needed to be done, I with
• 19:40
  Speaker 8: held rent. So let's not assume that Kenya's just making
• 19:44
  Speaker 8: up a lie. She might actually have the money and
• 19:47
  Speaker 8: be doing what her lawyer told her to do, because
• 19:48
  Speaker 8: what my lawyer told me to do. So I'm not
• 19:50
  Speaker 8: even assuming that her business failed. Her lender might actually
• 19:52
  Speaker 8: be a piece of shit, just like brit Right. And
• 19:55
  Speaker 8: I also think too, Kenya is such a special show talent.
• 20:00
  Speaker 8: I can't even explain it. I don't think anybody can
• 20:02
  Speaker 8: replace her. That people who are just as good as her,
• 20:04
  Speaker 8: but she's very specific. I weep to think about what
• 20:08
  Speaker 8: this season would be like had she not been kicked.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: Out of last season.
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: The idea of Kenya Moore and Kay Michelle. Oh, come on,
• 20:16
  Speaker 8: I was thinking about it, so y f you break up?
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Let's get back into the show.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Listen. I can give y'all someone. Kenyon's tactics may rub
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: some people the wrong way, and it may come off
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: bitchy and mean. I will agree with that. I'm not
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: going to be a blanket apologist for someone.
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: To my friend, he's got a.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: Couple of things with me.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: What I was like, I'm okay, bitch, I'll see you.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: But when the dust settles right, it may take us
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: years to find out. Please tell us when Kenya has lied.
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: I know to be a liar.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: Maybe her presentation or maybe her you may not like,
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: but she's not a liar. So if she says she
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: did eighty thousand dollars worth of upgrades on that building,
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: which blue, I agree with you. If I changed and
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: fixed the plumbing and replace floors and the landlord said, okay,
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: we're gonna you know, you don't pay rent the first
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: six months or whatever the agreement was. We're gonna stick
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: to that. I'm gonna give you rent on top of
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: an eighty thousand so when you kicked me out and
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: the victory, you got eighty thousand dollars worth of free upgrades.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: Let's just see about that. I want to. I think
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: we should give her that because she hasn't been known
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: to be a liar. That's tactic, but she's not gonna liar.
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: In fact, it's been the opposite.
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: She's been vindicated right when people have accused her of
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: being allowed follow she's been proven right. So I think
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: that's relevant. I just I'm you know, I just wish
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: they could have had a different outcome because to me.
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: Real shit, real shit.
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: Kenya and bridd Edie as a duo could have ran
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: that motherfucking show. And it's a damn shame that we
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: never even got to see that as a possibility, you
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. But neither here nor there at
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: this point because both of them have moved on.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, So what I will say is this, So.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: I haven't spoken to Kenya recently about this, but I
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: spoke to Kenya when she was going through being suspended
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: from the show obviously, and and what that means. So
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: let's have a real conversation right when it comes to
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: reality stars and business. And I'm not saying this is
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Kenya's case, right because she's not here to defend herself,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: but a lot of reality stars they get the business
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: because they have a.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Show to promote it on. And the money you invest
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: you get.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: You know, you get profits from that based on the
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: promotion you get courtesy of being on a hit show.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: So when Kenya got her.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Hair spot, obviously, listen, Kenya had no idea she was
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: going to get suspended.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: She invested so much money into that salon. She have
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: marble floors, you know, like, like can you put a
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: lot of money into this hairspot? And to know that,
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: like this, your job is gone. And I think we
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: have to.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Understand Kenya Moore has been on that show since season five.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: This happened season sixteen and she was gone one season.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: So ten years of making a significant amount of money in.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: The seven figures to know that that's what you're accustomed
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: to and to have this job taken away from you
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: like that early in the season, she was gone by
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: episode six out of like twenty something, so I definitely
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: remember her telling me prior to getting suspended that she
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: was dealing with landlord issues. The point I'm making too is, look,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, I don't blame her
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: for not only not paying what she felt was I
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: believe hers, which was the reimbursement of things that needs
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: to be fixed, that money spending more into this business
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: when you just lost your high paying job and you
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: have a daughter.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: You know again, I think a lot of that. So
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: you all can say la la, la, la la.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: I will go ahead and say Kenya was smart. It's
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: hard to be like, that's a business. Hey, I had
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: it for a couple of months.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: This isn't like she had Warner Brothers.
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, See, it's a couple of months bad investment.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: I'd rather walk away now than to continue to pour
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: money into something to where this big show that I
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: was on no longer is there anymore. And I have
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: a daughter who's in private school and I have to
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: worry about her future and her college fund.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: So team Kenya, I'm on Kenya side. And look the
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: brit eaty thing. I'm a dustin in the sense.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Of look one thing, I'll i personally, Carlos King, I'm
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: never ever, ever, ever going to smile at someone's misfortune
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: because same way the Lord gave it, he'll take it away.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: And I google karma.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: I have never even the people who did me wrong
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: they want their jobs. I didn't laugh.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: I just said God sees it that they had to whatever.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: So that's how I feel now. With that being said,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: I also understand it's not me. But I do understand
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: that you also can't tell somebody how to respond whatever.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Happened to them. I do understand that. Logically, people say.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Nini will say something I'm gonna butcher it, but Nini
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: would say something like.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: If you throw something at me, bitch, I'm about to pop.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Like, can't you can't decide if my response to you
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: fits the crime.
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: I live and die by that I don't give again.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: I don't like her, we just don't want to do it.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: But I I logically can understand why she feeesn't need
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: to be like, no, bitch is up forever, feel like
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: it's up forever.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: I think it would have been funnier if they were
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: both on the show. It would have been like a
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: shady little scene we're like, oh, bitch, no, you did
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: not go mind my salon. But like that, you know
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: the lawsuit. Knowing that that like just doesn't said that
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: was a catalyst of ruining what could have been a
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: really amazing season. It's like makes it like a little uglier.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't like the ladies, So I'm not
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: even gonna make it logical. I just don't like the lady.
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: You know how, I'm the same way, man, I respect
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: you like you had justin.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Said, y'all feel like she rereal with this show.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: So again, as fans of the show, she can't brick,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: can't be mad at how.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Y'all responded to it.
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: I feel like they both did in a way right,
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: And I don't really want to place a blame on
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: who just clarity, right, I don't want to play some
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: blame on who ruined the show. I just felt like
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: that season was ruined by that conflict. And I was
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: both ladies who both showed themselves capable in other ways
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: and fit in other ways to be housewives. I wish
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: they would have made different choices, but it is what
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: it is, you know what I'm saying.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, real talk, real talk.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: So moving on to the Real Housewives of Atlanta Season seventeen, episode.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Four, right this episode four already? Wow? Is it four
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: or fives?
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: It was four?
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: Four.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Episode kicks off guys with.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Kelly and Peaky Cole chatting and they both are relating
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: on the fact that they both are filing for bankruptcy
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: due to being the personal guaranteurs of the loans that
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: they received for their business and rain drops. What that
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: means is, in most cases, when you get a loan
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: and the bank gives it to you, in order for
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: you to in order for the bank to get their
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: money back, you sometimes have to put yourself as a
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: personal gaming tour which means, yes, you can file for
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: bankruptcy business wise, but they can't come after you personally.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: And that was happening in this case.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: But I want to talk about this though, because there's
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: a lot of chatter on Twitter about this. Start with you, Claudia, Listen.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: The Real Housewise franchise has always been heralded as successful, women, aspirational,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: all these things. This is episode four. Pinky is a
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: new housewife Kelly this or second season? Is it daunting
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: for you to know early on that you are dealing
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: with two houses lies who are both having to file
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: for bankruptcy, and is that something you want to watch
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: when you're watching over a housewives show.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: I don't like seeing it for any Like I said,
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: I don't want to see any of those women go
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: through bankruptcy, but it is part of the story. And
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: also I do think more people need to be educated
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: on the topic of bankruptcy because for a lot of
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: white people, they use it as a business move, you know,
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: for a reset. Like when people hear bank bankruptcy, you broke,
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: you ain't got no money. Sometimes you have to reorganize.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: And the way to put a pause on things, to
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: not lose at all and to make arrangements is what
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: bank is. To follow bankruptcy. I had to do it before.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: And then I remember being on like the finale of Apprentice,
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: and well, that's why you bitch relaxed. Let's talk about
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: pH levels if you want to talk about what's bad
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: about each other? Okay, but.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah college.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: College teammates tell me about that anyways.
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: Counts.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: But like you know, I don't like seeing that, But
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: maybe I'm hoping by the end of the season we
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: can like see it resolve and see how it's not
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: as daunting as people think it might be, but it
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: is real life. I mean, I do get tired on
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: this on the flip side of everybody pretending like everybody
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: on a reality TV show is so wealthy. And though
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: Pinky Cole has been very successful, but even the most
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: successful people they go through lows, they have bad years,
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: they have they can have some financial devastation, and I
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: think it's I commend them for being that that open
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: about it, because everybody on these reality shows wants you
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: to think that they step out the house every single
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: day in lvy and product and Gucci every single day
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: to go to the store and have four sets of
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: lashes on, and it's actually not reality. So I do
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: appreciate it. It's true. It's like, yo, no one's really
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: living like that. So as long as that have a
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: happy ending, I do appreciate them talking about it, but
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: I don't like how they're keeping I did not like
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: for Pinky to keep it away from her man, but
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: I loved loved his masculine energy.
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: Oh my god, I got you.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: I was like, ah, I'm a fan, now, I was.
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: I've never been so sexually aroused.
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: During an episode of Her Housewives of Atlanta, and I
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: say that respectfully.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: I'm a Pinky fan and I don't care that the
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: rest of y'all magic, because the lady is front on.
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: I love her so much this season.
• 31:25
  Speaker 8: She is so authentic and also in on the joke
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: and roll with the punches, and she could take she
• 31:31
  Speaker 8: could give it and take it, you know what I mean?
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: All the notes that we give about the other girls
• 31:35
  Speaker 8: who are one trick ponies or who make up fancy
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: words to make up. It's not like Maya Angelo and
• 31:39
  Speaker 8: try to be above it all. Pinky said fitt, I'm
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: gonna just be me. And the fact that even when
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: she messes up, she doesn't make excuses. Her emotional intelligence
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: is incredibly high, even though her egos tripping her up
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: right now when they did that last scene, and I
• 31:52
  Speaker 8: wish we could see more of this of her. And
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: by the way, me and Claudiyah we got tag a
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: lot the people were saying that we were vindicated for
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: saying we don't think her husband it's.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: A bad man that she had to keep a secret from.
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: We just think that her the best of her as women,
• 32:05
  Speaker 8: and we've been vindicated so any people, we're tagging me
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: and thanking us for having that perspective seeing a black
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: man love a black woman who was incredibly successful and
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: not only not try to humble her, have her back
• 32:21
  Speaker 8: when she stumbles.
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: Chef's kiss.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: He's my favorite husband right now.
• 32:26
  Speaker 9: And like how Charles did come through for Angels, Daddy,
• 32:29
  Speaker 9: I love him but no, yes, beautiful because like the
• 32:33
  Speaker 9: way that Pinky's getting like people are dragging her because
• 32:36
  Speaker 9: of the aesthetic somehow not being like the other ones.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: And four bottles of weave down our back and whatever
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: stupid surface reasons they may have, we need more of this.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: And guess what, everyone doesn't look the same and a
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: twenty forty inch bust down. Okay, everyone doesn't look like that.
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: And she got better husband than someone ya on the
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: bust that? How about that? Sorry?
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: Her husband loves all every single into that okay, And
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: the way he was gripping her booty like that said, Okay,
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: I know, I told you I may have good sex.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: I think they have the most the best sex of
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: everyone cast. You can tell knock them kids out right away,
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: back to.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Back to back to back, watch What Happens Live. They
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: had sex in the band and building once I believe it.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: I fucked with that. I like ratchet, ship like that
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: and like driving up. Listen, if you're watching, I would
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: love to go do some ratchet, borderline, homeless ship.
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: Band nome, the power of words.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Elevators, unha, elevators, dangerous, yellow tape not supposed to be there.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: And then we pull the panty to the side. You
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: put me against the brick wall and my white outfit
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: is getting dirty. But then we see that anatomy when
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: you touch that wall. Because I want to be like,
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: oh girl, but you know what I'm saying, that'll be sexy.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: I'll do some savage shit like everyone like a Viking.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: Why not.
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: Grown women?
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: Grown women appreciate pinky anyone if you're a grown woman
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: who you know how they used to say back in
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: the day, a grown man on mine a little bit
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: of hair. I feel like at the station that we're
• 34:05
  Speaker 8: not to be nasty fault grown women who are watching.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: Now today? Friend, we bump up the yellow one becoming
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: really bring flowers.
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: Lady, who's ever had a man lay you down and
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: spread it wide?
• 34:21
  Speaker 8: You understand what it looks like when a man really
• 34:24
  Speaker 8: fucks with you, like when he really has your back.
• 34:28
  Speaker 8: I love it, and I also think a lot of
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: the girls who are who are taking jobs should be
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: taking notes, because, honestly, as someone who's an entrepreneur, I'm
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: learning so much about this whole garantory thing.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: I'm scared to ask for a loan again.
• 34:37
  Speaker 8: I'm taking so many business notes sincerely watching this show.
• 34:40
  Speaker 8: It's actually helped me figure out what kind of investments
• 34:43
  Speaker 8: I want to make in my own business. I remember
• 34:45
  Speaker 8: the last time I was educated watching the show, so respectfully.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: I'm here for it.
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: Here for number two. Pinky and her husband are in love.
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: The the attentiveness that he displayed when she finally reveal
• 35:00
  Speaker 7: that she had met with the bankruptcy attorney and planned
• 35:03
  Speaker 7: on filing for bankruptcy right, which was information that was
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: omitted through their daily conversation until that point.
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: He literally he never lambasted her about, you know, her
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: timeline of revealing the information. He immediately was attentive to
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: her emotional needs as well as offering a solution in
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: real dollars five million to be exact. Okay, he offered
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: her five million on the spot, and not in a
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: way where he was trying to flex or It was
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: so authentic and so sincere that I walked away from
• 35:38
  Speaker 7: that scene like Pinky got a good husband.
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: Pink got a good husband.
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: And also in that saying, I just feel like that
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: same scene nullified all the criticism in so many ways.
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: In the same scene where he not only offered her
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: a solution to the problem that she was uncomfortable sharing
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: with him initially, he also affirmed her as a woman.
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: He told her she good, rubbed her ass, you know
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: what I'm saying, like, turned her around, backed her up
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: into him, and immediately it was like it was a magnet.
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: You know what Cardie B Song said. Okay, I'll be
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: feeling I feel like a magnet.
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: Peaky immediately knew to turn around and put that mental
• 36:14
  Speaker 7: put the middle, put from the front to the middle,
• 36:16
  Speaker 7: and around, back to the middle and around again.
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: She knew what to do.
• 36:19
  Speaker 7: So I think that represents a security that is that
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: is developed and nurtured and solidified over the way you
• 36:28
  Speaker 7: show up for your partner. And seeing this black couple
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: with these beautiful children who are obviously in love.
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: Who y'all might not like pinky hair, but he do.
• 36:37
  Speaker 7: Okay, So seeing seeing that and seeing him show up
• 36:40
  Speaker 7: in that way, not one time did he do anything
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: to shame her for her decision. He showed her that
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: he understood, and this was on camera and it wasn't
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: no bullshit. So I love what they showed and represented.
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: And this is this scene itself, I think represents why representation,
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: okay matters. This is why you need to see black
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: couples and couples of all different communities right showing up
• 37:11
  Speaker 7: for each other in that way. That was love that
• 37:13
  Speaker 7: you've seen when they was walking down that street. Because
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: he so immediately you need five million dollars, like, Okay,
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna help you out.
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: We in this together. And it wasn't again, it wasn't
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: to flex. It was an immediate, yo, you need this, okay,
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: cool because we in this together. I'm ten tots with you.
• 37:29
  Speaker 7: So I thought it was beautiful and shout out to
• 37:32
  Speaker 7: that couple, shout out to Hayes.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: I was a little surprised when like, I was like
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: so happy for her, but I was also like, well,
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: damn if we found out he was that dope in
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: one episode. She's been married to him, she should know
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: that she's able to tell him that. So that's right,
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: that's all I like it a.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Little bit like was next with that, So it's funny.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: It's funny you took the words out of my mouth.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: I first of all, I love a Pinky is bringing
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: to the show aesthetically and personal story since Atlanta, and
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: the one thing I've always wanted for this show was
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: the different looks of women in Atlanta. He has succeeded
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: in that effort. And I like the fact that she's
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: very honest about it. And I'm clawing into the worst
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: out of my mouth because when Derek did say I'll
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: pay for it.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: We're in this together, and she started crying. In that moment,
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: I was like, but this is the man you marry,
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: like you you, why don't you? Why don't you know this?
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: And then it hit me too, like I think she.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: I think she does know it, which is why she
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: didn't want to ask him. I mean from telling him.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: I think she knew that he was going to say that.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: I think Pinky is this, And Pinky, if you're watching,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: because I know you are, this is my advice to you.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: It's okay to be a boss at work and be
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: a soft girl at home and allow this man.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: I think I think Pinky has to when she walks
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: to that house and listen, I'm popular opinion. Maybe I
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: think Pinky has to the moment she walks in, allow
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: herself to be vulnerable around her husband.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: And your husband is not impressed with you taking on everything.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: He wants to help you.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: He's also an entrepreneur, and yes, don't cry at the
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: office with your employees, right, but at home, baby, you better.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Cry in your husband's arms and say this is too much?
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: What do I do?
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: I need some advice and I want Pinky to feel
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: comfortable doing that.
• 39:40
  Speaker 7: I just want to add right that this is not
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: an average or normal, right or typical disagreement between spouses.
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: We're talking about millions and millions of dollars on the
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: line here and two wildly successful entrepreneurs who have seen
• 39:56
  Speaker 7: continued success in different spaces.
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: So these stakes are a little bit.
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: Different than not telling your husband that you bought up
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: her coat, you know what I'm saying, or something like that.
• 40:05
  Speaker 7: Like this, this is different, and so again his instinctual
• 40:12
  Speaker 7: right reaction to be supportive and to be attentive to
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: her needs I think is exemplary, right. And they black
• 40:19
  Speaker 7: people in love with a beautiful family, and the way
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: that she was able to immediate. She it was tough
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: for her to reveal that to him, and it was
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: tough for her to surrender to him in that way
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: because she told us in explicit detail that her prowess
• 40:35
  Speaker 7: as an entrepreneur was part of her appeal to him,
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: or at least for her understanding you know what I'm saying,
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: So it was difficult to compromise that. I just think
• 40:44
  Speaker 7: that was a great example of two of a couple, black, white,
• 40:47
  Speaker 7: whatever the fuck, but in this case, a black couple
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: showing up for each other, you know what I'm saying,
• 40:53
  Speaker 7: without ego, without any any sort of like again, lambasting,
• 40:58
  Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. Like He literally just was like, oh,
• 41:00
  Speaker 7: that's what's going on. Well, I want you to know
• 41:02
  Speaker 7: I got your bank, he reassured her. And I think
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: it was a great example. So shout out to the
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: Hayes family.
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: I spically wanted to be a black family, though I
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: know we're yeah.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: We have black on black crime as a fake term
• 41:16
  Speaker 8: that was created to make us think that black people
• 41:19
  Speaker 8: are pathologically more violent than others. Speaking, all people kill
• 41:22
  Speaker 8: their own the most. So if we can make it
• 41:24
  Speaker 8: a fake term like black on black crime. Why can't
• 41:26
  Speaker 8: we highlight for once black on black love? And it
• 41:29
  Speaker 8: makes me so proud to be able to witness this
• 41:34
  Speaker 8: happen for a woman who looks like all the women
• 41:36
  Speaker 8: that we know in real life and also too though
• 41:39
  Speaker 8: to Claudia and Carlos's point, sometimes when you are in
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: a relationship with a good person, you like to make
• 41:47
  Speaker 8: them proud. It's the same reason why a kid who
• 41:49
  Speaker 8: always gets a'sed lies about that sea to their good parent.
• 41:52
  Speaker 8: It's like, I love the fact that I make you proud,
• 41:54
  Speaker 8: and I'm internalizing shame that I'm not going to hit
• 41:57
  Speaker 8: the mark. Even if I know you're gonna show me kindness,
• 41:59
  Speaker 8: if anything, Sometime times that kindness makes you fall apart.
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: I can joke about it with.
• 42:03
  Speaker 8: The girls at the function, I can kicky with Kelly
• 42:06
  Speaker 8: in them, But when I see the tenderness in your eyes,
• 42:08
  Speaker 8: if I start crying, I might never stop. And that's
• 42:12
  Speaker 8: the part that gets tricky. Sometimes when you have a
• 42:14
  Speaker 8: good man or even a good friend. I've had friends
• 42:16
  Speaker 8: tell me Blue, I didn't tell you because I knew
• 42:18
  Speaker 8: you were going to be so understanding, and I knew
• 42:20
  Speaker 8: the I told you, I would fall apart, So I
• 42:22
  Speaker 8: get it, and.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: Then also like, even though like he's you know, listen,
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: we've had different opinions of him a couple of weeks
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: ago when he said that humbling comment, well, it wasn't
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: like we hated him. We were like, hold up, it
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: was just like a even in a loving relationship. I
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: do think that it is possible to be a little
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: competition going on, maybe unspoken, you know what I mean,
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: Like you know, hey, I made my million speak oh
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: I made my million to Okay, there's no weak links here,
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: so nobody if you have listened, if you're a boss,
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: alpha woman, you have to go through jump through a
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: lot of hoops to get there. You got to go
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: through a lot, especially a black woman. So I feel
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: like you feel like it's like it's shameful, like you
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: don't want to be like looked at like a failure.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: Everybody the man that's you look So I could see
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: what she would feel a little bit inflicted to say,
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: I asked up, man, I messed up the church's money.
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: Shame.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: That's why I appreciate it. With Angela, who is coming
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: out with her own fan. First of all, Blue, Oh sorry,
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: you can see me.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Blue rolled the eyes on the back of her head
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: the moment I said that, so clearly, I'm gonna start
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: with you first.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: So Angela Oakley is coming out with a line of fans. Okay,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: it's called Fanngela Fannies. Okay, she wants to be able
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: to have inventory, but she has to invest.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Fifty thousand dollars.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Now, mind you, Angela has been open and honest about
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: losing two million dollars worth of housing inventory.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: That did not go her way.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: So in this case, she's telling her, Look, I need
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: to make sure that I make a profit immediately, don't
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: I don't have it to invest in something else and
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: lose money. So if I'm going to do this and
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: it's fifty g's, then I'm going to need to make
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: sure that I make a profit. How many orders do
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: we have? Charles Oakley walks in. She asked him for half.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: He eventually says yes. But Blue, my question to you
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: is a do you think this line of fans is
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: a good business endeavor for Angela? And do you think
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: in this particular case, Charles should be the one telling
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: her this ain't a good idea. I might give you
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: twenty five thousand dollars. How about you focus on something else.
• 44:46
  Speaker 8: I bought a fan the other day, lost it, went
• 44:48
  Speaker 8: on Amazon, got another one for four dollars, and kept
• 44:50
  Speaker 8: the pushing.
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: No, I don't think this is a good business idea.
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: I'm so sorry.
• 44:53
  Speaker 8: Please put that fifty k in a high ul Savers
• 44:55
  Speaker 8: account so you can make a couple thousand every month
• 44:57
  Speaker 8: on it.
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: What is you doing? I'm sorry?
• 45:00
  Speaker 8: I love Angela so much, but this is giving desperation
• 45:03
  Speaker 8: to be to be a businesswoman. Sometimes the best thing
• 45:06
  Speaker 8: you could do in businesses be still. Sometimes the best
• 45:09
  Speaker 8: thing you could do is and no offense. If you
• 45:12
  Speaker 8: only have forty what did you say? We had thirty
• 45:13
  Speaker 8: thousand for marketing, fifteen thousand for the team move fans.
• 45:16
  Speaker 8: Whatever the numbers were, they were very small, respectfully okay,
• 45:20
  Speaker 8: as somebody who has a buy inventory. The numbers were
• 45:22
  Speaker 8: very small. That already tells me you ain't got it.
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: Sis.
• 45:26
  Speaker 8: If somebody said, Kadi, I want to start a line
• 45:28
  Speaker 8: of scrunchies, I got thirty dollars.
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: Do you want to go in business?
• 45:31
  Speaker 8: Pop were like girl at that price point, I think
• 45:33
  Speaker 8: the funk not right? So I think Angela, I love you,
• 45:36
  Speaker 8: You're gorgeous, You're amazing. You don't even need the storyline.
• 45:39
  Speaker 8: You don't even need this storyline. I loved you without
• 45:41
  Speaker 8: the fans, Fangela. So I hope that she sits still
• 45:44
  Speaker 8: for a second and recognizes that she doesn't need this
• 45:47
  Speaker 8: storyline and she should be sitting with what went wrong
• 45:50
  Speaker 8: and do a swat analysis strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and threats
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: in her last business before pivoting so quickly to recreate.
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: Them in a new business. I think this is a
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: desperation tactic and I'm like, Pinky, this one. I can't.
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, y'all just in it.
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: Can we ask the rain drops because I seen a
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: couple of people said they would buy them any range
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: drows would you buy the fans? Will fan?
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: Just how much?
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: For fifty K? I also think we need to know
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: how much she's gonna sell them for too, I mean,
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: because the thing is that I've seen the handheld fans.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: I've taken them from people and unfortunately I discarded them
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: because the ones I had was like whatever, But what
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: are the average price for fans?
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: The hamheld ones?
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: I never had one. I don't know, I don't know what.
• 46:34
  Speaker 7: I don't give a fuck. I'm buying it straight up.
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: I fuck with her being hot. Charles Oakley telling her
• 46:40
  Speaker 7: to fix that wig and her having that fan in
• 46:43
  Speaker 7: that scene from season sixteen was noteworthy. Okay, it was
• 46:47
  Speaker 7: a moment for me. And so I'm not concerned with
• 46:50
  Speaker 7: the sustainability of the fan. I'm not concerned with the
• 46:54
  Speaker 7: price outside of anything that is not ridiculous. Right, But
• 46:58
  Speaker 7: she won thirty five dollars for the fan, and you
• 47:00
  Speaker 7: know whatever, we'll pay it. My thing is, I just
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: want to hold a fan that she's responsible for. That's it,
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying.
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: So it is what it is, and.
• 47:12
  Speaker 7: It's just that that's the long and short of it
• 47:14
  Speaker 7: for me. I don't think that And Blue made a
• 47:17
  Speaker 7: great point. Blue, you made a great point whether when
• 47:19
  Speaker 7: you talked about the amounts of money that she was
• 47:22
  Speaker 7: identifying as seed money, and like, you know, the investment
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: or whatever, they were small in paltry, right, compared to
• 47:29
  Speaker 7: other amounts that we invest in the thriving businesses.
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: But I think that reflects the fact that this is
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: something she's.
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: Doing for her fans, no pun intended, right, I don't
• 47:38
  Speaker 7: think that it is a venture that she is anticipating,
• 47:43
  Speaker 7: you know, changing her life with I think that she
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: can get larger amounts in profit and her real estate
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: participation if she focuses. But the Fangelia's, the fans are
• 47:54
  Speaker 7: for the Fangilas, and it just is what it is,
• 47:56
  Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. I'm a buy one.
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: Hell, Amazon looked them up, So going right right now
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: is about four dollars.
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: Per fam I'll played a thirty dollars premium for Angela.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: So yeah, it's definitely for a niche people. For the
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: people who are make time Angela fans, which we all are.
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: We all love it.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: But I do think that now would probably with like
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: stuff that's happening in the market real estate wise, a
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: lot of people going to foreclosure right now, now was
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: a great time to snatch up some of those properties
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: if you really want to like put that money, especially
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: you're in Georgia, there's a whole bunch of inventory. I
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: think she needs to lead those high end homes alone.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: Do not buy million dollars anything over four hunde thousand
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: dollars right now. I would not. I would snatch up
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: those smaller ones. I think she's on the right track
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: with that fixer uper that had the spiders in it,
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: that was like one sixty nine. You can maybe get
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: that to be worth two fifty with some upgrades, some
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: new countertops, some new floors, some paint whatever, curbs on
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: a pill. I mean, you can do that, but I
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: think I do. I hope she doesn't put I'm glad
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: the budget is small for these fans because I don't
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: think she she should waste a lot of money with this.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: I think she should stick to what she knows and
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: go into you know, well, even though she's had some
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: battle real estate. You can blame that on the market.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: The markets really messed up a lot of us right now,
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: real estate holdings.
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I like her. I'll buy one too. About
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: you know about six I about that, I buy a
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: whole six pack? You got bread?
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: Howmey gonna buy?
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm in a very fortunate position to
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: where people give me stuff for three Yeah, but we
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: need you to support them.
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: That wasn't the question.
• 49:26
  Speaker 9: I will.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: By, I mean I'll do buy. I I will buy.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: I will definitely buy Fangelize. But like when with candles,
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: and you know, I guess something, I'm promoted on my
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: mother that.
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: Lie the novelty. You know what I'm saying.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: I got Angela, by the way, this weekend at the
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: Hawks game.
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: Gorgeous, Huh I know?
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: Oh no, No, she had on a onesie.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: Who Angela?
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: Angela openly head on.
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: I love she is the best body on the show.
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: She really does.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: I had and I did her freaking interview in her
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: house and I'm like, where did this come from?
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: She looks gorge had a jet black bob And one
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: thing I will say about Angela.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: And I think it's a good thing because I've seen
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: Sarah tax Robbers do it. Which, by the way, Sarah
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Jax Robbers, no, what what.
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: What Sunday was that.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: I did not even finish Sarah Jax Robberts. This is like,
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: did I say and he's day?
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: It was like, oh my god, he's like speaking of hose.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, pay that's Sarah tax Robber was a little buggsy.
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: No, okay, okay.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: What I was saying was this, by the way, I'm
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: praying for you, missus Roberts.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: She had an accident to where she was jumping on
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: a trampoline and fell on her neck. She was two
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: inches from her spine and her lives so she's recovering.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: We're praying for you, Sarah Jakes. But no, I wan
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: wasn't say she were onesie.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: What I was saying is Angela Oakley was at the
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: game with her husband, and mind you, she is Angela
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Oakley like she's a big star now in the housewives.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: What I was saying was similarly to Sarah Jakes Roberts,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: who is to me the Beyonce of a poopet. Whenever
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: I see her in Terrey, she definitely like make sure
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: that her man is like, that's my man. Like she
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: has this very graceful way of like leaning next to
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: him but making sure that the husband leads so.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: But Angela, I was like, look at Angela. Charles was
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: there being Charles.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: But Angela still has this very dainty way of presenting
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: herself as Charles Oakley wife that I that I'm marveled at.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: I thought I was so that she wasn't like move,
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: it's all about me. She was definitely more so like whatever,
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: not like dimming her light or nothing, but more so
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: like this.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: Is my man.
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: And Holly is very old Hollywood, and I just I it.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: Made me love an Angela Gamore.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: So anyways, sell that to say, Angela will buy all
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: the fans you want, honey, but definitely give you more
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: for free.
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: Then shape by Cherie as well and the candles. And
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: they're asking about all the other products in the hospital.
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: They should just have a swat.
• 52:46
  Speaker 8: You never bought anything, Carlos, be honest, Have you ever
• 52:48
  Speaker 8: bought anything from my housewife girls?
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: To me?
• 52:54
  Speaker 9: Now?
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: Now to know charae, Now that's a good question. Now
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: I had to buy from Charrett.
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: Absolutely support your friend.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: I have a very special place in my heart for
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: so for Chara. I'll do anything for Charat So.
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: Yes, they want to know if you bought your go
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: naked hair.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Well you'll see my Okay, porchs friend Mike came back
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: in this episode, okay, and which was a surprised to
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: me because obviously we saw her and Sway in the
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: prior episode. So Mike is back and he's in the
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: house and Porsche us talking to him about feeling a
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: bit sad because she received an offer from a home
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: buyer who wants to buy her mother's home, and that
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: was the home she bought once she divorced Cordell, so
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: has sentiments of value to it, but it also is
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: making it has over a million dollars worth in equity.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: But Claudia, what do you think about that? You know
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: of Portia got burner ball. She's with Mike. Mike is
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: big and strong and and all those things.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: And they hug in and she did an OTF child
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: she's on the spot confessional.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: First of all, I thought she looked extra pretty this
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: whole episode. Yeah, it was like less makeup or something,
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: and she doesn't even when you saw that, she looks
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: like she looks really pretty this episode. So I want
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: to definitely give credit where credit is due. The house
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: looked amazing. The house was like the one she's in.
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: And I the scene with old boy, I know, we
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: talked about him being an actor and being a paid
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: actor and all that kind of stuff. Not that she's
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: paying him, but an actor, but it seemed a little
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: more real though. It did seem like there was like
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: real moments with them, which is kind of sad knowing
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: that then we know that she's now you know, it's
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: not going to end up with them, except when they hugged.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: Did you see the hug?
• 55:02
  Speaker 6: I see the hug.
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm talking about.
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: You know, when you like when you.
• 55:09
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: So when I saw that, I was like, maybe it
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: made me think maybe she's knew that. She was like, Okay,
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: I'm really feeling Sways. I'm not really gonna because when
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: you really like, when you you what's on your it's pelvis,
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: the pelvis you like.
• 55:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah, for those who don't requite talk about if the
• 55:23
  Speaker 8: pelvis is in because you like it if the pelvis
• 55:25
  Speaker 8: is out, I'm being polite for the camera, right.
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: But I did like the scene. I thought it was
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: nice and it was nice to see the vulnerability in
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: that scene. I thought it was nice and I actually
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: liked it. It seemed it was very like normal, you
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: know what I mean. But the hug gave me like Okay,
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: she ain't really didn't. We didn't see much more of this, guys.
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: It's gonna be all about Sway moving for That's what
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: I thought.
• 55:46
  Speaker 7: Well, that was because while they both have humps on
• 55:49
  Speaker 7: their chest, right, he is his hair on it, So
• 55:52
  Speaker 7: Sway is a more comfortable landing pad, you know what
• 55:54
  Speaker 7: I'm saying when it comes to hugging. Probably leaning in
• 55:57
  Speaker 7: the swing was like okay, yeah, yeah, she leaned into
• 56:01
  Speaker 7: him and it was like abrasing you know what I'm saying,
• 56:06
  Speaker 7: the chest, hair, the chair. Yeah, because he he had tits,
• 56:10
  Speaker 7: he was he was buxom.
• 56:11
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
• 56:12
  Speaker 7: That not in a way where they were you know,
• 56:14
  Speaker 7: but he had a big he had a big buxom chest.
• 56:18
  Speaker 7: He had a mammy titty chest. You know what I'm saying,
• 56:20
  Speaker 7: Like you want to lay down and tell him drying
• 56:22
  Speaker 7: your sorrows on his chest, you know what I'm saying.
• 56:24
  Speaker 7: No matter how you identified. But sway right, who also
• 56:28
  Speaker 7: has lovely lumps, you know what I'm saying, her smooth,
• 56:31
  Speaker 7: So it's a different landing I think for portion, and
• 56:34
  Speaker 7: that would reflect the hug element, I would think, you
• 56:38
  Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, that's all like true Hill.
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: Though I don't understand the outfit the kids, I couldn't.
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: I couldn't focus because of the outfit. It was a
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: lot happening.
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: The kids definitely gave friends like we're not like you
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: could tell from the kid the way that they kissed.
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: It was like a like how you would kiss on that? Okay,
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: I can just kiss you, just say I kiss you,
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: but not what was that passionate? And going on?
• 57:01
  Speaker 8: Now you have a theory you ever liked like more
• 57:03
  Speaker 8: than one person. But then somebody one of them put
• 57:06
  Speaker 8: it down.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: As we're gonna we're gonna just draw by ju Hill
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: and Cisco.
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: And you want hop on one on one knee. He
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: was dressed like.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: Hilarious.
• 57:20
  Speaker 8: I can't sorry because it's true though, right, and so
• 57:24
  Speaker 8: once you see it, you can't see it. So it
• 57:26
  Speaker 8: ruined the whole thing until I saw how pretty she
• 57:27
  Speaker 8: looked a Claude's port. She looked fine as hell.
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: I felt like I feel I was pretty. She really
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: didn't a whole episode.
• 57:34
  Speaker 8: As somebody who's paying session mm hm. The ladies can
• 57:40
  Speaker 8: be real tender, but also really good at the things
• 57:43
  Speaker 8: that the fellows do to like this. People don't understand
• 57:46
  Speaker 8: that when you are having an open, fluid experience and
• 57:50
  Speaker 8: dating different jen as at the same time, you get
• 57:52
  Speaker 8: to in real time see the differences, Carlos, You in
• 57:57
  Speaker 8: real time see the differences there wool hang ups that
• 58:02
  Speaker 8: men have that women like Sway because that woman like
• 58:06
  Speaker 8: Sways who got me?
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: That women like Sway don't have?
• 58:09
  Speaker 8: And when they got you making them dolphin noises, the
• 58:11
  Speaker 8: next time you see somebody else who's not them, your
• 58:14
  Speaker 8: body already belongs to her.
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: Like, so I think that as we're back in the
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: head Dolphin. Yes, I believe that Sway had her doing.
• 58:25
  Speaker 10: Flippers the night before and that's why she couldn't hugg
• 58:27
  Speaker 10: that at me, right, yeah, because that's why she was
• 58:32
  Speaker 10: out along as somebody else man like that before movie
• 58:38
  Speaker 10: that just came out.
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: It was an OSCAR nominated movie about somebody. Right, what
• 58:43
  Speaker 6: was the name of that movie?
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: I hated that movie.
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: Name The Shape of Water, The Shape of water, paper water.
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, your scissors was a little too good, friend, be careful.
• 58:55
  Speaker 10: Yeah, your little girlfriends hugging the man.
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: Wait, this is the man like this?
• 59:04
  Speaker 5: Yep, that's exactly. Yes, that is sexually accurate. That is
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: sexually accurate.
• 59:13
  Speaker 8: So you the night before and then Drew you know, no,
• 59:18
  Speaker 8: Kio comes up the next day. You don't give a
• 59:19
  Speaker 8: theamn about that hug. I'm sorry, I'm just.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: Your moves.
• 59:28
  Speaker 6: You want to see dancing the club? I shoot, now,
• 59:31
  Speaker 6: I'm just playing. I'm just.
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: By by Way the night before.
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, I agree with you. Like when you
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: like you, you're like you got two people you're like,
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: but then you just had great passion with the other person.
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: You almost feel disloyal when you see the other person.
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: So you're like, I'll do enough. Yeah, I'll do enough,
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: like i'll but she's not lean into him like that.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: She was not.
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: And now I saw the kiss and I was ready
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: to be like, oh they look like but then I'm
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: like the his and she avoided his crotch like he
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: had monkey pocks. Hold on, let me not say that
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: like you had covid.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: Let me, let me, let me let you have the florid.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: Give me no disease. Uhs SoRs Okay.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I get a whooping call Claudia.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: But I did like to see with her and Dennis
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: like they even though they're not together, they are.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: A little bit. You call him baby, she's a baby.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: I mean.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: We got a key relationship though.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 7: As a person from Detroit and Carlos, you can tap
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 7: into Dennis. Take your ass to the barbershop, man, and
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 7: you even want to the barbershop, nigga, you can have
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 7: somebody come to the motherfucking house and clean all that
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 7: up them scraggly ass.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 6: Great here, if you want to keep your graat, I
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 6: ain't mad at you.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 7: It shows wisdom and you got it because you're a
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 7: successful businessman. Dennis but when you're filming and you already
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 7: clashed with the blue and red of that jong and suit,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 7: you know, and the gray hairs clashed.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: It wasn't one of his better days looks wise. But
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: I like the band.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 6: I love their relationship.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: You look like like you know, when you roll over
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: and put on some closes to go to the store.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: It was given you. You didn't brush your teeth yet,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: and so I didn't like that.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: But it did seem like he got a lot of
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 6: ship on the floor in the back seat of the car.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. Mail, You know what I'm saying.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 6: Witer bottles, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: It was a comment, and I know we're all listening.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: It's kind of like a recession. That commie's not great,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: Dustin Blue or Carlos. Someone said, who else is going
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: to dance a little something for the super Chat? They
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: want to see some movement here.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 6: Well, only fans is available.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: We're not here to be you know, like you got
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: some moves?
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: Stay up.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 8: It gotta be a fifty dollars super Chat. Just bat
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 8: your bottom lip. There we go, bite it.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: They just show you what the angels know.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: I know you have right there, show you a little
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: right there. I know you got it. At least at
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: least that I heard about.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 7: That leads that big old We're gonna let the legend
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 7: remain urban. We're gonna let we gonna let the legend
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 7: remain urban.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 7: Right here, baby, I would make the noise, you know
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 7: what I'm saying. But I'm not gonna do that.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, did you really the gun show in the middle
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: Dustin's demonstration?
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 6: You know he did? You know he did?
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: He lifted not need to lift something else that will
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: black office whole screen.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 7: Oh well, they ask about me, nigga, ask about like
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 7: you said. You think I'm in the run from that,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 7: I'm not. Everything you heard was true so much the show.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 7: Don't give a funk. I'm blessed so thank you God.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 6: But yeah, anyways, me too.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, y'all are doing to.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 6: Patreon from Monday night? Uh uh after dark?
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: Reality after dark and guess what, at least a reality
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: after dark.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: Unlike Pinky, we do eat meat.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: So one of the biggest controversies on this episode is
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: whether or not Pedra.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: Told Shemia ate meat.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: There was a flashback that showed a phone call where
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: Fedra told Samia.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: That Pinky used to own a Jamaican restaurant and serve meat.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: But there is a scene.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: Where Kelly tells Shemia that Pinky ate meat, so there's
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: a difference. Kelly told Shamia Pinky ate it, Beedra told
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: Samia Pinky owned a staurant used to sell meat, but
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: Shemiah told Pinky that Phaedra says she ate it, to
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: which Phaja denied and said there's more things for Pinky
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: to worry about because she heard from the credible AJC
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: and the DAILI mail that she owes back Brant. Starting
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: with you, Dustin, what do you think about this whole
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: misunderstanding of meat, potatoes and back brant semantics?
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 6: Okay, Haguash scuttle.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 7: But you know what I'm saying, that's what it is.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 7: It's random words. First of all, the intention is one
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 7: hundred percent in the same. Whether you say she used
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 7: to sell meat, which she did. She had a Jamaican
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 7: spot on one hundred and forty fourth Street, one hundred
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 7: and forty fifth Street, which is where I know Pinky
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 7: from from back in the day, so that is true.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 7: But she never ate that shit.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 6: She just served it.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 7: We always knew Pinky was vegan even back then, so
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 7: the intention in sharing that with her cast member was
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 7: to shine some negative light on Pinky's authenticity as a vegan,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, And it was what it was.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 7: So I don't think there was a difference in saying
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 7: she ate meat or sold meat. Both were shared with
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 7: the same intention. I thought from a comedic perspective, right,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 7: it was so funny to me the way SMI was like,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 7: I could have swore that Paeder told me she ate meat.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 7: That shit was funny, you know what I'm saying. I laughed,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 7: So I thought it brought some levity to levity to
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 7: the show. We know it wasn't work. It wasn't true.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 7: And also Fader then Faedri just cannot escape the shackles
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 7: of being a liar. She just can't because she literally said, oh, well,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 7: you talked about my kids.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 6: Why you didn't talk about your kids?
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 7: Shemia said she rather have Cynthia watch her kids and
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 7: you and who wouldn't went faced with the option of
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 7: Cynthia Bailey watching your kids versus Faedra parts it's a
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 7: clean decision, So I thought was reaching. I didn't think
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 7: that Samia was Shamia literally didn't say nothing about fa
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 7: or her children.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 6: So that was that. But yeah, I thought the intention
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 6: was the same, So whatever, Blue.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm trying to be nice.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 8: Ok Why's ability to suck the joy out of a
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 8: moment this season needs to be studied.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: All she does is make weird faces and then and
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: then like wait for somebody laughing. Nobody ever does. I'm
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: so tired. I'm so tired.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 8: And the thing is, it was sorry, I'm never doing
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 8: that again, but it was such a fun cute scene,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 8: Shamia was.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: It was a fun cute scene.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 8: And then here comes Faedr bringing it back down and
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 8: you could even see that Shamia's face got serious, like no, no,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 8: I don't play with kids, Like what are you doing?
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: I thought we were having this a key right, And
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: so this is she coming back next season? That might
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 5: have an intel the lady. Somebody needs to put her
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 5: out the past.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 8: Maybe they're gonna have an all star rendition of Traders
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 8: where she can impress the white folk who don't know better.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 8: But like Faser on, this show for me is a
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 8: constant dud. I don't understand why she's still there.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: And also too. Can I say this nicely?
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 8: I'm clinic to think. Okay, I'm gonna say this. I
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 8: think Fader was a sympathy higher. I don't know who
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 8: she has a deal with, but I really do think
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 8: this season is showing that she does not need to
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 8: come back. If she comes back next season, I will
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 8: be very, very shocked. There are two in a world
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 8: of Pinky and Angela and k Michelle Faeder has never
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 8: been more redundant in my eyes. And the thing about saying, oh, well,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 8: because you said you'd rather Cynthia take care of your
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 8: kids than me, you said I was a bad mother.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 8: That reach was even desperate even for her, So yeah,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 8: I'm giving her zeros across the board.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: Shamia, I will say this. We always say Shimia goes
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: too much, like she says too much when she's doing
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 5: her confessionals.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 8: This is a perfect example. When Shamia is light with
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 8: the touch. Her comedic timing is impeccable. When she knows
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 8: when the clip the moment, Yeah, that moment right there
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 8: with you, the whole my Karana was too much. But
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 8: when she doesn't want to clip the moment. I love
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 8: her commedic timing so more of that sham.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 6: Girl, and she looked the good in that cat.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 7: So say what you want. Pretty as motherfucker. I don't
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 7: give a fuck with nobody say.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 6: Love her or hater. She can't dress. We know that,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. But but but her as
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 6: a woman, Shamia is mother fucking beautiful.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: Banging body.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: It's amazing at that charity that's.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 7: A pretty ass woman, like like flat out like she
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 7: she walked past you, You're gonna do a double take.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 6: She's that kind of pretty.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 5: But Dustin, do you think everybody was a little too
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 5: fine at the charity function? It was I feel like
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: a grown man. It was a little distracting that charity function.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: They all look extra kind of fine. I'm like y'all
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: giving out.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 7: Songs the restaurant crossed sledty Vgan. I'd have my teddies
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 7: out too.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: I can't believe I'm about to say this, but this
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: is the one time that Phaser didn't lie right. He
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: actually did. Pinky did serve me. But like note said,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: she was trying to be shady and she got caught
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: doing it. And then July about you talked about I
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: hate when people say you're talking about my kids when
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: you're not when you make a general statement and then
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: let me be clear, and hey, y'all better write this
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: day down. Okay, here's another compliment. First, people you say
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: I hate them. I do think Fadia is a great
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: mom to her kids. But that does not that even
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: with that being said, someone can still have the right
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: to prefer Cynthia over phasia. Like there's nothing wrong with that.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: Like that doesn't mean that you suck as a mom.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: It means someone could prefer Cynthia and it's a preference.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: And you know, I think she said something about look
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: at how no Well be traveling the world. Noah has
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: a fly ass lifestyle and she's always the soul like
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: she listen, the girl was like thirteen fourteen years old.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: We was on a yacht in the Bahamas, Okay, a
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: private yacht which is five of us. Okay, her mom
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: or her daughter and me and my friend. Like like,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: she's had a dope ass life and she's very mature
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: and and to Fagi's credit, her sons turned out amazing.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: They're very hand some smoking, smart, mostly intelligent children. From
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: what I can see. I don't know them like that
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: from what I see as an outside looking in, so
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: you cannot take away or anything about Phaser with being
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: a mom. She's just annoying as a member of the
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: Real Housewives of Atlanta, and her wigs usually look good.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: And I saw the guy that does a wigs online
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: that does a great job. I forgot his name. No
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: disrespect the one she had on this one. It was
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: given the girl that's on the package of the hot chocolate,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: like the Swiss miss girl with a part down the middle. Hard.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: I hated it and it just irritated me and Padre,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: you're reaching with you talk about my kids. It was
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: like you're losing what made you great, Like you don't
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: have that thing anymore where you're like your your clop ax,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: your logic, your why is not there anymore.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 6: You just your rindtones on your eye lids and roses
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 6: in your hair. You need to go back to that.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 6: Stick your roses back in your hair. I'm with Claudia
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 6: on this one.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 7: We're not even gonna sit here and pretend like Fader
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 7: don't love her kids and it's not a great has
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 7: not shown herself to be a great mom.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that that is. And we're not even gonna pretend
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 6: about that. Or play no games about that.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 7: Faedra has always percentaris up presented herself as a loving,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 7: doting mother to her children.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 6: And you can't dispute that. So like that just is
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 6: what it is.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 7: I just want to add that note because I don't
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 7: want people to misunderstand that, even though y'all want to
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 7: misunderstand what we say anyway, but just not that, because
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 7: Faedra is a hell of a mother to her sons,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 7: and they seem well.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 6: Adjusted and and and privileged in all the best ways.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: So I'm curious about the Phasira pinky thing though, because
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: like Piggy has thrown some jobs to Fader's side, you know,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: towards Faedera about her wigs, about like little things. I
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: wonder what they're I'm sure we'll find out.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 7: Well, you see, Faedra was throwing them too on the
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 7: phone to me like well she used to serve, you
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 7: know what I'm saying.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: I wonder what they said. They knew it was for
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: fifteen years. So then I wonder what if we'll get
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: to the backstory. I hope so because if not that Bravo,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: you're getting ripped off. You could have paid anybody to
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: go on there and go and do this, we cover
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: my topic, like you know what I mean? Like that's it,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: Like we're phaser and clock in clock in.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: Well, okay, I.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: Want to get to that too, and then I go
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: backwards when you say clock in. The moment I was like, okay,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: is Phaedra about the clock in? When Harns me was
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: getting into it and then Pinky stopped it.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: So Carlos King, Carlos, I'm gonna take you what I
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: have done.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: Asked my witness, Poor Shamus said this, and an interview
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: that dropped tomorrow. The moment Pinky would have said this
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: ain't the place for it, I would have said, Pinky,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: we're in this place. Let these girls finish talking. If
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: you don't want them to talk here, then at least
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: tell them to go outside with it. But we're not
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: not gonna have these girls addresser issue. And that was
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: the producer me. It annoyed me because I felt like
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: we're about to finally see Phedra clock in and the moment.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: Samia was ready for it and more except for her drink,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: ready for the fact that Pinky had the power.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: To say stop.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why I would you say that?
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 7: Like I didn't I didn't understand that why that flew
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 7: either personally, especially as a day one season one viewer
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 7: who remembers the season nine reunion epic four part reunion
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 7: right where Samia versus Phaedra was a highlight.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 6: Of the region.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: Why your cheerleader?
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, all of that ship. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, so, yeah,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 6: I would.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: Have been I would have been living.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: I would have been like the moment Phaedra finally listen,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: I believe, And y'all gonna tell me if I got
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: this wrong. I thought in that moment, Pedra was at
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: least ready to get something started.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: This is her best episode where she's been the most
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: present when we heard the most.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 7: I will say that, yeah, me, she's not intimidated by
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 7: Shemia in conflict, and so I think that that kind
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 7: of spoke to her readiness for the moment.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: I think, you know what I'm saying, I wanted, which
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: is why I wanted it, and I love the fact
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: that Shemiah was ready to give it. And I was like,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: what the fuck are y'all letting Pinky control this scene
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: when there's cameras here, we control the scene. Excuse me,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: Pinky let them finish. We'll get to these burgers in
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: a second and these backpacks, but the first thing we're
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: gonna get so this scene can be interesting.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: Let these girls do what they do.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: It's sort of like when in Mexico Season six, episode thirteen,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: they're in Mexico and Fedra and Kenya are getting into
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: it and Kenya kept over talking Fedra and he said,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: Fedra never says anything.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: Can you at least let her finish? Because they were like,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: she's clocked in because she saw you talk to her.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: He everybody knows that Faedr isn't the one to always
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: give it, but when she does, that's when you, as producers,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: you say quiet on the set, cook, and let's see
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: what she can give. So I thought Faeda was ready
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: to do it, and I was disappointed that Pinky stopped
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: it and they left her.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: It's like Pinky forgot she was on a reality show
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: and she thought she was really and people give people
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: like a lot of shit with these shows. Oh, I
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: can't believe you mess up that charity event. These events
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: be bullshit for TVO. Okay, maybe up for the show.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: If everyone in there has signed a release that not
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: real events. Half the time. Okay, nine times out of ten.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: Sometimes they are, but for the most part they are
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: for the show. You can turn up with those events.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: So y'all you want to mess up the event, fuck
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: that event. The event is for Bravo. The event is
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: for the network, and yeah, I want to mess it up.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: We pay and in some cases we paid for it.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying the Pinky thing and listen, yes it
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: was charity.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: I get it.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: There were kids there, so like this is House fives.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: I agree what we're doing here, so I thought was
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: gonna give it. But I do agree with all of you.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: I there is something we'd between Phadr and Pinky. My
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: hope is that we get it.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: What we are going to get next week is Pinky
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: versus Angela, which I heard.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: I heard that was gonna be great. But I want
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: to see Faedra clock in. I want to see Fadra
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: gather the girls, and.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: I'm I don't. I don't know if we're gonna get
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: that with her in Pinky this season.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 6: I'm not. I don't know. We won't.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 7: If you want Fraser to clock in, figure out a
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 7: way to bring Candy back, Let's have the conversation.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 6: Fuck it.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 7: If you want fare to clock in, then someone has
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 7: to figure out how to have a successful negotiation with
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 7: Candy Burrs to bring her back to the show, because
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 7: that is the ultimate clocking in that we will received
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 7: from both of them, to be honest with you, So
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 7: whatever we need to do to sweeten the pot to
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 7: make that happen.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 6: What a return for Candy, you know what I mean?
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 6: What a what a that? That's the show. So if
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 6: you want to if you.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 7: Want Fader activated, everything else is child's play to her
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 7: because she's in a great position on the cast.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 6: She's tenured. The network obviously fucks with her. They moved
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 6: her from show to show.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 7: She has she has privilege amongst the cast, and you
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 7: can tell by the way that she chooses or the
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 7: choices that she makes, you know her engagement. So if
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 7: you want to see Phaedra shook up, bring Candy back.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 8: But but Dustin and Carlos. First of all, Dustin, that
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 8: is exceptional. I hope somebody.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 5: I would pay to see that.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 8: Kenya or Candy. Yeah, what if they already let that
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 8: moment happened? If Fadrier kept falling flat? So this time
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 8: they didn't care to stop it because my thing is,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 8: Fader's been falling flat so much, and there have been
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 8: so many confrontational moments that were lackluster. There might have
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 8: been nothing to say that you wanted to empty the clip.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 6: The clip might be empty, might not be no clip.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: Well that's the thing. Well, and and that's a fair assessment.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: But the thing for me was like, let us let
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: us least see it so that listen, we're gonna have
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: a real conversation. It is trending on social media whether
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: or not Faedra is good for the show anymore. I'm
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: sure Faedra has seen it, and only Fadri can answer
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: that herself. They and listen, Fadri has fans who feel like,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: I think she's.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: Great, y'all are haters and that and and they they
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: they have the right to say that. But what we're
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: not gonna do is not talk about the fact that
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: there is this call to action when it comes to
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: whether or not she is who the fans fell in
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: love with.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: And that's why as a producer, it is one of
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: those things where it's sort of like either she's gonna
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: give it or she has to be able to do it.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: And that's why I just had a bad reaction with
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: Pinky stop there because I said, well, if I.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: Was Phaedra, I would say I tried.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 7: But yeah, Fadri is a cast member that is beloved
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 7: right by the fans and by the audience of the show,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 7: and there is a value.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 6: There's value to that, right. But when it comes to
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 6: abilities amongst the cast, right.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 7: When it comes to someone who can anchor a show,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 7: someone who can can be have a cast built around
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 7: them in a way that the other cast members are
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 7: supplemental and they are the one who are providing the
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 7: energy and stuff. Faeder simply is not that cast member.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 7: Don't make her a bad cast member, don't make her
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 7: a good one. It's just it's not her skill set.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 7: That's not her strong suit. And so I think that
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 7: somewhere along the way the the adoration of the fandom
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 7: and her success on other shows on other platforms, I
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 7: think that those two things equated to value amongst this show,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 7: and that contributed to her coming back.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 6: And I'm not a hater, so good for her.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 7: I'm glad that she's back and able to do her
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 7: thing again, raising two black sons. I want to see
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 7: her employed and doing well. But I'm also not going
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 7: to denote her as this heavyweight amongst the housewives in
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 7: the housewives zeitgeist, that she.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 6: Simply is not able to live up to. She's not.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 7: Y'all just love her and it's okay, and you should
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 7: if that's your girl. Like, I don't think there's nothing
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 7: wrong with her.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 6: I don't want her go on. I just think it
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 6: is what it is.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 4: It's like loving your favorite quarterback that was good in
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: the nineties and how there's nostalgia, like bring them back.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: I want them back in the super Bowl on my team,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: and then they bring them back, but the arm isn't
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: what it used to be or they were good when
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: they had that certain team around them, but with the
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: new team, it's not really working.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 6: It's yeah, you cook right there.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we need to simmer on that a bit.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: Claudia made a lot of sense that actually I think
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: that to me, that sort of like solidifies it. Michael
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: Jordan is Michael Jordan. But if you bring Michael Jordan
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: back with these with the with the current players on
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: on the on the Bulls, he's not going to be
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: as great as he was because back then he did
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: have Scottie Pippen and that's why Scottie Pippen was.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: Like you were everything.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: But let's be clear, I also was a part of
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: that too, and I do think, look, I do think
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: there is something to say about people bringing out the
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: best in you when you are a part of an ensemble.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: And that's why I don't believe in bringing someone back
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: because they're a familiar face.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: I believe in bringing someone back because they make sense
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: with this current slew of cast.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: And the story.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: You know, and I listen, Pedro works to me when
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: it's heard Portsche Candy, Kenya and needy yep yep, because.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: She was good at like bringing it to Kenya sometimes
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 4: and then also then Nanni was good at checking her
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: and being like, hold up, I didn't know you back then.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: So like that in that dynamic, like there was a
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: time you could almost root for her, right and then
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: there's a time you can root against her. It was
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 4: like interesting, but now it's like she's awkward. I think
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  Speaker 4: I think having her on ice all these years and
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: then kind of her kind of like doing a marriage
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  Speaker 4: medicine or Dubai whatever she was doing, like she kind
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 4: of lost something. And maybe that's also when you get
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: fired from a show or taken off a show, suspended
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: you sometimes like you lose a step. Like again, to
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: give you a sports analogy, you know, when you're out
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 4: the game for a few years, you're gonna come back.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: That arm's gonna be a little rusty. It's not gonna
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 4: be look at what it was before because you was
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 4: in a rhythm. You was in a rhythm, and now
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 4: you don't have your old teammates and you're rusty. And
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: then I also think the stuff that used to work
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: back then is not working now because like everyone else
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: has stayed on the show or kind of stayed in
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: the mix, they've actually been able to grow and kind
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: of move with the times. Phaser is like a man
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: that went to prison in nineteen eighty nine and got
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: let out and twenty twenty six and still wants to
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 4: dress like when he went in and through two thousand nineteen.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: Like you know what I mean, say, your.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 5: Cell phone don't know what the internet is?
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 4: Like, what is this? What fo situation?
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  Speaker 6: Again?
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  Speaker 3: I have to but I have to say this in
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: Favor's defense.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 6: What is poor g.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: I have to say this in Fhagor's defense.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: You saw Ky Michelle say she make faces, but Cay
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: Michelle didn't say it to Fagor's face. You saw Pinky
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: make comments about Phaedra, but Pinky didn't make it to
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: Favor's face.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: So in Fager's defense, that's why I believe.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: When I was producing that show and you know this, Claudia,
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: you're telling me shade about these girls, don't mean shitay.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: It on camera?
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: I would be like this, why are you telling me
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: tell her to her face?
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  Speaker 11: Or or if you if you said it behind her back,
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 11: you best believe you're gonna get the opportunity to say
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 11: it to her. Faith and working with Phedra, one thing
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 11: I will say working with Pedro, if you bring something
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 11: to her, Pedri has never backed.
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  Speaker 3: Down for a fight that she was presented with.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: If you came at her, like when they said when
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: Kenya Moore said you were their Clauda, you and Demetria
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: you know mister chocolate, the man you sleeping with, she said.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: She got mad and we was like got her, you
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 4: got her.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 12: She saw Kenya talk to Apollo and she said, my
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 12: first mind was to slap the dog piss out of
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 12: your mouth, like when she when you come at her,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 12: I will say.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: This about her. She she she always delivers and doesn't
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: brought it up season nine.
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  Speaker 6: To me, it was.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: At that reunion, but she came back and forth and
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: in my advice to the girls is this and okay,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: let me go.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: I'll in my my thought by saying, if you are
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: to the housewives, if y'all want Phaedra activated, you have
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: to tell her things to her face, because talking about
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: her behind her back or confessionals ain't gonna work. And
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: her defense, I will collect these mon dollar checks because
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: you girls aren't bringing me anything to deliver with.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 6: And I respect that.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 7: My thing is she falls flat when it's time to
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 7: show and improve on your feet. In the moment the
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 7: men that her lives were exposed in that reunion, she
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 7: literally stopped answering questions.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 6: Andy Cohen, Candy.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 7: Birrs, Todd Tucker, several people were asking her pointed questions
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 7: during that reunion, and after her life was exposed, she
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 7: completely shut down and deflated, which doesn't really respect, which
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 7: doesn't really reflect rather fortitude and strength in high pressure situations.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 7: It seems like, yeah, if you're in a controlled environment
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 7: where they gonna ask you a question, and you know
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 7: that you can give a witty answer and without any recourse,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 7: there's no one there to respond to it. Yeah, you're
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 7: gonna be funny or go a little further in your confessionals.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 7: But that never that same, the same strength never showed
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 7: up in the moment when it was time to have
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 7: a verbal, when it was time to discuss feelings.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 6: It never showed up.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so good out the cuff, because we all know
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 4: that read that very evil read to Kenya that she's
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 4: the most this is the most memorable read that I
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 4: hated that blue and eye we both agree on about
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: the pizza man, a sperm couple, all that stuff you know,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 4: that was written out and she said, I'm gonna hit
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 4: it with this in round three of the questions. But
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: go back to season seven. We was at that table
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 4: in Puerto Rico, Nubie Demitria, who was in her head
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 4: a lot. What did she say? She took a moment
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 4: and she read her down with that number eight, with
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 4: the thing you got in common is mine, You'll just
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 4: got yours going in for eight and I've been with
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 4: mine for eight. Fader had no response to that except
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 4: I don't care about that girl, So she's I think
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 4: he's highly overrated because of some written had They's like
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 4: going to a freestyle battle and you have your lyrics written.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 4: Now that's not a freestyle. You can still you can
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 4: still be dope rapper, you can still be dope. But
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 4: it ain't off the cup, it ain't Nott the dome,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 4: and only a few of us are good at the
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 4: dome like that, and I'm sorry she's not.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 5: One of them.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 6: You know what I learned though we're in the minority.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 7: I think that a lot of people who I think
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 7: that maybe our lived experiences, maybe our own capacity to verbally,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, address the situation. I think
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 7: that that puts us in a place where we register
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 7: the things that are said differently. And so I think
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 7: that we're in the minority. Friend, after all these years,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 7: That's what I'm back because people fuck with phase or
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 7: and they feel like she is great and has a
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 7: sharp tongue, sharp tongue, and we simply don't. So we
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 7: in the minority.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 4: I think. I think she's in the record skipt and
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 4: you can be great and be in the moment and
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 4: like process something in the moment quickly doesn't your point
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 4: because we're not being fake. If you're fake, you have
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 4: to keep track of the lies you said, the presentation
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 4: that you're offering. Oh, I'm a religious woman, I'm a
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 4: little woman of the community. I've done this, i have
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: one cases, I'm this, I'm that, I'm a great woman,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 4: I'm classic. It's a lot to remember to keep track
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: of in the heat of moment. But when you are
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 4: who you are and who you really say you are,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: you can react to real time and you ain't faking shit.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 4: You don't have to remember scripts. It's all right here
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 4: and right here in your heart. It's right there. You
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 4: speaking from off the domino, off the heart of the heart.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: So that's what's the difference. Yeah, we can all go
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: home and write some shit out and deliver it. That's
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 4: the difference between comedians that can do great stand up
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 4: comedian comedy or the ones that and then they go
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 4: around and try to hold something they suck. You know,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 4: you can make a funny moment in the heat of
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 4: the moment, you can pivot, whereas someone that has this
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 4: stuff pre written and they can still be great comedians,
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 4: but their shit is all written.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 6: Out the limited A question.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 8: I'm just curious all three of you if you have
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 8: to chew between quitting why you were ahead and having
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 8: your legacy solid or coming back for a couple extra six.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 5: Figures, which would you choose for preserving the legacy.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: I'll answer that great question obviously. People excuse me. People
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: always say Carlos come back to Housewives like to Housewives.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: I won't ever go back to Housewives. You would kill it,
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: right because I've done it and the legacy is there.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: You know, we talked about the top twenty highs for
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: the episodes, it was you. My legacy is on that.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: You can't erase history.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: So for me, the reason why I really and I'm
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: not being egotistical when I say this, because that's not
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: where my spirit is. I have done so much to
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: that show that no amount of money can satisfy what
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: I built over there and where I'm.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: At today, the piece that I have today and doing
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: other things. So I do agree with you.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: I think, listen, all money and good money, and I
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: think there are certain people who need to look at
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: it and say, me, going back, what else is there
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: besides the check? And because when I look at when
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: I look at who I used to work with, and
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: again not to keep bringing her name. But but Portcha
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: brought this up in an interview, is I know what
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: to do with those girls, But I also think the
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: times have changed, you know what I mean, Like the
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: times have changed.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: And the world has evolved, and da da da da
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: da da da da da.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: So I have decided there's no amount of money that
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: anybody can offer me to go back producing on that housewolds.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 4: Okay, not money, But what if when Nini comes back,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 4: and when this lawsuit stuff is over with Kenya and
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 4: she goes back and they have Kenya Nini po fakes
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 4: believing would still be good with them? What if they
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 4: bring the ogs back? Then would that be a reason
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 4: to go back? Would you do? I know money is
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 4: not an issue because you're rich, rich, you saw, but
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 4: for the for the you know, for the culture, and
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 4: like you know you, I feel like you know how
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 4: to work with those girls the best, is what I'm saying.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: Would you go back and under those circumstances.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: That would be a great start of a conversation. But
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: there's so much other stuff that would have to be
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: included because and when I say, things just aren't the
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: same anymore, Like there's so much shit with that.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: But I also think this. It's sort of like you.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: I do believe in this.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 6: I do believe in this.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: I do believe in some cases you gotta just say,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: like Michael Jordan, sometimes you got to sit back and
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: be like, man, that was a great time.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: And I love it. And I will say this, I
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: love critique the game versus being the coach of it.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, you have the option.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: I like to be, you know, the reality you.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 5: Know, analyst.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: But what if what if the condition is.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: The graduation of it? But to go back and be
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: like Pinky, let her finish, I'll.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 4: Just be What if the OG said their one conditions
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 4: to come back would be if Carlos King was the
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 4: executive producer. Oh and you had editing, you had complete
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 4: editing and casting control.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 5: Cut.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 4: I know, Lauren, If you're huh, I said, Lauren.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: If you're listening, you are so shady Blue Claudia, I
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: love you.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 5: Guys.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: Have a great weekend as well.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 6: Thank you, Thank you, Lizzie, bye y'all.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: By Reality with the King is executive produced by me
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: Carlos King, produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: the Lack Effect Network.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: You can also find us on my YouTube channel. At
• 1:33:18
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