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The Shlyn Show: Flint Minshew · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Let's end our first episode of the office. It I
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Speaker 1: drooled on my sofa. No, he's a dog. I love
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Speaker 1: my sink. Pick your musty at the shop. If I'd
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Speaker 1: say everything wrong, I'm reading me and it was the
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Speaker 1: best day of my life. Welcome to The Slynn Show
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Speaker 1: podcast presented by by Star, where we're not afraid to
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Speaker 1: mess up, We're not afraid to have a little fun.
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Speaker 1: Come on, and where you'll hear stories about your favorite
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Speaker 1: Jaguars from the people who know them best. I'm Ashlyn Sullivan.
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Speaker 1: You're gonna hear from none other than Flint Minshew. That's right, Gardner,
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Speaker 1: Minshew's dad. We're gonna find out the true origin of
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Speaker 1: the statue and how Mississippi Boy has transforms into an
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Speaker 1: NFL starting quarterback. Flinch, you must be so excited and
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Speaker 1: so honored that you are the first guest. I'm absolutely honored. Um,
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Speaker 1: I would hate to see the list of people that
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Speaker 1: turned you down before you finally got to but but no,
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Speaker 1: thank you. I always appreciate you guys covering Gardner. We
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Speaker 1: don't take any of that stuff for granted. I'd love
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Speaker 1: to hear that. So take me through the off season.
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Speaker 1: What has the family been up to. I know you've
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Speaker 1: been in Jacksonville for a little bit, going back and forth. Right, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: So Gardner got a house uh this summer, and and
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Speaker 1: actually my middle daughter, who just graduated from Mississippi State,
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Speaker 1: moved down there with him. So not only the first wave.
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Speaker 1: My well, I went down and kind of checked out everything,
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Speaker 1: and then my wife went down and made him by
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Speaker 1: furniture and things like that. Um, you know, she was
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Speaker 1: worried to death it was gonna be milk crates and
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Speaker 1: you know, like like spools, these big spools like that
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Speaker 1: people use for poker tables and stuff like that. So
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Speaker 1: she made him get out and buy some furniture and
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Speaker 1: decorate it. And my my my daughter Meredith, who's living
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Speaker 1: with him, Um, and that'll be a good break too.
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Speaker 1: And she's got a doll dog. And and so to
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Speaker 1: his credit, Gardner asked if she would, uh, if she
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Speaker 1: wanted to come live with him. I mean, so, of course,
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Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some swapping out of some duties there
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Speaker 1: as far as house cleaning and laundry and things like that.
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Speaker 1: You guys seem like a very close knit family, and
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Speaker 1: Gardner seems very close to his sisters, what what kind
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Speaker 1: of brother is he? Is he the protective kind? Like
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Speaker 1: I see that Kelly has a boyfriend? Now, so how
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Speaker 1: did that work? Was it? Really? And Meredith does as
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Speaker 1: well too. Um, you know, it's kind of different. So
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Speaker 1: it's different with Meredith because they're so close in age
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Speaker 1: and they ran kind of in the same circles. And
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Speaker 1: and then like with Kellie, her being I guess she's
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Speaker 1: what about five years younger than him. She she accuses
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Speaker 1: him of being dad two point oh, because we're we're
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Speaker 1: real big on you know, hey, what did you do
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Speaker 1: as far as working out? Are you doing this? Are
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Speaker 1: you doing that? Then she gets away from me, and
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Speaker 1: then Gardner's asking her the same thing. So, um, so
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Speaker 1: it's a different relationship. They're all pretty very close. We've
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Speaker 1: been very fortunate that we, you know, doing what Kim
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Speaker 1: and I do, we were all able to spend a
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Speaker 1: lot of time together, and you know, all these tournaments
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Speaker 1: and you know, soccer, volleyball, baseball, you you get spent
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Speaker 1: a lot of time together and athletic family, to say
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Speaker 1: the least, that's for sure. I tell people Ashland all
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Speaker 1: the time, I'm married. Well, you know that's a that's
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Speaker 1: a huge part of it. I tell my kids too.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, look, I'll be bringing home any little mules.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, uh, I don't want to be embarrassing to
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Speaker 1: watch my grandkids play ball. Yep, they better choose wisely
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Speaker 1: if they're listening. That's right, that's right, that's try. So
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Speaker 1: tell us about Gardener as a kid. Do you have
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Speaker 1: any funny stories like my mom is always so embarrassing.
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Speaker 1: She tells the story of how I got my head
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Speaker 1: stuck under a sink when I was eight year old
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Speaker 1: and I took chip my tooth, and she always tells
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Speaker 1: this embarrassing story about me. Is there an embarrassing story
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Speaker 1: about Gardner that he's gonna be all mad that you
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Speaker 1: share with us? I don't know, because we're all pretty,
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Speaker 1: you know, pretty thick skinned anyway, as far as I mean,
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Speaker 1: we're always you know, there's a little minshew sarcasm out
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Speaker 1: there that we all kind of share in that sense
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Speaker 1: of humor. I'll tell you one time, and I always
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Speaker 1: tell this because it was a big part of his
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Speaker 1: I think his development, even though he was so young
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Speaker 1: at the time, he had played based a little coach
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Speaker 1: pitch baseball, and it was when we still lived in Carthage,
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Speaker 1: a little town of people. He didn't make the All
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Speaker 1: Star team, and he was kind of pissing and moaning
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Speaker 1: about that. And boy, his mom let into him and said, look,
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Speaker 1: you don't deserve to be an All Star. Your dad
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Speaker 1: would try to get Now, this is like he's six,
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Speaker 1: seven years old. She was like, every time your dad
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Speaker 1: had tried to get you outside the hit or two
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Speaker 1: to throw. You didn't want to do that. She wanted to,
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Speaker 1: you know, play with us or play with that. You
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Speaker 1: don't deserve to be an All Star. And I tell you,
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Speaker 1: from that point on, it kind of flipped the switch
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Speaker 1: with him. I mean really and from that point on,
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Speaker 1: like I said, he really took to practice and it
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Speaker 1: didn't matter what it was. And to the end, to
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Speaker 1: the point to where he passed. Forward a couple of
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Speaker 1: years later, if we went out and lost a baseball game,
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Speaker 1: and there again, I'm talking to seven or eight year
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Speaker 1: old little red baseball. You know, if if a couple
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Speaker 1: of kids stunk and they had not been to practice,
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Speaker 1: you know, he wanted me to beat up the kid's
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Speaker 1: dad's for not bringing them to practice. You know, over
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Speaker 1: there crying and just like Nash and to teeth, you know,
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Speaker 1: just like so and so sucks their dad won't bring
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Speaker 1: him to practice. They can't catch a flyball. Dad beat
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Speaker 1: the shout of it. And I'm like, Sonny can't say,
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Speaker 1: you know, And I'm like, but I get it. I
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Speaker 1: don't like your dad either, because I was just as
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Speaker 1: bad as he was. So just little things like that
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Speaker 1: early on, like I think him thought for a while
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Speaker 1: he might need therapy, I mean, just because he was
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Speaker 1: so over the top. And it's like, well, you can
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Speaker 1: take that and back it off and hopefully keep him
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Speaker 1: out of prison. At a soccer tournament, and fast forward
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Speaker 1: a couple of years, they came in second, and you
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Speaker 1: know how, they get together under Villon and pass out
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Speaker 1: the medals for the first and second place team. And
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Speaker 1: he's walking up and getting his and and he didn't understand,
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Speaker 1: Like he's distraught, you know, and and his teammates are
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Speaker 1: asking around, laughing, and he doesn't understand that number one,
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Speaker 1: so he's even more mad. And then number two, like
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Speaker 1: they put the medal on his and he walks by
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Speaker 1: the garbage can and just throws it in the garbage
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Speaker 1: And we're just kind of sitting there and I'm you know,
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Speaker 1: we get to the car and I'm like, look, man,
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Speaker 1: I get it, but you can't throw away the medal
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Speaker 1: in front of the name tournament director and all this mess,
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Speaker 1: and like you gotta just you know. And so there
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Speaker 1: was always things like that that that you knew early on.
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Speaker 1: He was really competitive and he equated early on hard
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Speaker 1: work to success. It seems like the competitive nature has
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Speaker 1: a definitely paid off to say the least, use it
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Speaker 1: for good. Yeah, and hey, and and he got it. Honest,
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Speaker 1: Kim and I are the same way. I can't say
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Speaker 1: that we don't know where that came from. I mean
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Speaker 1: we're you know, because and once we'd get in the
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Speaker 1: car and I'd be like that some of them he
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Speaker 1: needs to bring that kid to practice, he can't, you know.
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Speaker 1: So so we were yeah, yeah, you know, we're talking
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Speaker 1: freaking eight year old kid, bitch baseball. You know, nothing
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Speaker 1: wrong with that. Let's talk with a little ball. Shall
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Speaker 1: we go back to high school? The lack I think
7:42
Speaker 1: most Jaguar stands no gardener story, how he was really
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Speaker 1: successful in high school but had that lack of offers
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Speaker 1: that was hanging over him. But now fast forwarding, how
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Speaker 1: do you think that shaped him going forward. So there
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Speaker 1: it was some very hard, hurtful times, you know, because
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Speaker 1: he was super productive. I mean he won. He won
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Speaker 1: as a day ninth grader. I mean you know, he
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Speaker 1: won and and was productive, could make the throws and
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Speaker 1: and and just could do what he need to do. Um.
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Speaker 1: And I say at the end of the day, and
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Speaker 1: I still say it, these guys that recruit our sheep.
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Speaker 1: You know, nobody wants to go out and say, hey,
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Speaker 1: I don't know what these other guys are thinking, but
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Speaker 1: that that's my guy. You know, he's won fifty games
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Speaker 1: in high school and six a ball. He's done this
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Speaker 1: and done that, and so uh and hey, I'm still
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Speaker 1: better about it, Like, uh, somebody I want to call
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Speaker 1: who the coach is, but somebody brought him up and
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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, screw that guy. Man, he's a piece
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Speaker 1: of and because he's one of the guys that led well.
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Speaker 1: And I tell you what it was, he led Gardner
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Speaker 1: long on through and at the end of the day
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Speaker 1: he was just planning on trying to get him to
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Speaker 1: walk on. And somebody's like, man, why are you still
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Speaker 1: like that? It worked out good for Gardener? And I'm like, look,
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Speaker 1: you worked out good for Jesus too, but he's not
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Speaker 1: inviting Judas over for supper, and he goes that's pretty extreme.
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Speaker 1: So and I'm kind of rambling on you here, and
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that. Going back to high school, those
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Speaker 1: those things always shaped him. But at the end of
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Speaker 1: the day, he never he was more about winning the
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Speaker 1: ball game. And that's one thing I'm super proud of
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Speaker 1: because he he just wanted to win and the other stuff.
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Speaker 1: You know, we always felt like it would take care
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Speaker 1: of itself. Now, there was some times there that we
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Speaker 1: were like, guys, damn you know what, you know, just
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Speaker 1: this kid needs a break. I mean, you know, all
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Speaker 1: three in state schools here not only passed on him
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Speaker 1: Ashland out of high school, they passed on him out
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Speaker 1: of junior college, and then they passed on him when
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Speaker 1: he graduated from East Carolina. I mean Old Miss Mississippi
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Speaker 1: State and Southern Miss Southern Miss Okay who played on
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Speaker 1: TV last night, you know lost of South Alabama, but
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Speaker 1: all passed on you know, three times. So, um, there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of comments I can make about that whole
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Speaker 1: process there. At the end of the day, I think
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Speaker 1: a lot of these guys are just cheap, and they
10:12
Speaker 1: don't want to make a decision that might hurt there.
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Speaker 1: It's a really easy to offer a guy that's got
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Speaker 1: a bunch of other offers because then if you don't
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Speaker 1: because then if he doesn't work out, you can go well,
10:22
Speaker 1: you know he had offered from so and so and
10:23
Speaker 1: so we were all wrong. But yeah, so, um so anyway,
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Speaker 1: I could go on for hours if we need. If
10:32
Speaker 1: you ever get the court here, but yeah, if you
10:35
Speaker 1: ever get stuck from material, let's talk recruiting one day
10:39
Speaker 1: and um and I'll really I'll really light into it. Well,
10:44
Speaker 1: have the whole episode about the recruiting process and send
10:47
Speaker 1: it to every single college coach. I'll show Yeah, yeah,
10:50
Speaker 1: I give my cell phone. If you disagree with me,
10:53
Speaker 1: call me. Yeah, let's let's talk about it and let
10:57
Speaker 1: me tell you the other part of that. And I'm
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Speaker 1: a big believer in this. They say, hey, we want leadership,
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Speaker 1: we want grades, we want that. That is bullet because
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Speaker 1: Gardner was four point plus graduated early thirty plus on
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Speaker 1: the A C T. You know Mr Brandon High school.
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Speaker 1: So so if anybody ever tells you that, say, look
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Speaker 1: to sell that to somebody else. That's a crop yep.
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Speaker 1: My friend Flip Minshew said, I don't think that's right.
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Speaker 1: You can disagree with him his her cell phone. All hey,
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Speaker 1: I'll give my wife cell phone. She'll really like it.
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Speaker 1: We don't need that. We don't need that. All right,
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Speaker 1: let's last forward to UH to Washington State. That's when
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Speaker 1: I was, I guess born to the Minshew media. That's
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Speaker 1: when I found out who Gardner Minshew was. I remember
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Speaker 1: watching college game day and then being at Washington State.
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Speaker 1: So when for your family, when did you guys kind
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Speaker 1: of look at each other and say, all right, this
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Speaker 1: is for real. Gardner's got a solid shot here, you know.
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Speaker 1: So going back even like to East Carolina, and we
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Speaker 1: always knew, hey, he'll be able to get in the
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Speaker 1: camp somewhere and just proven when we and we literally
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Speaker 1: thought that's what he's gonna to do. He's gonna be
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Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent. He's going to get into camp,
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Speaker 1: maybe get on a practice squad, catch a break here.
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Speaker 1: So we we were never and even when the whole
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Speaker 1: stuff about going to Alabama, he was not hanging up
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Speaker 1: his cleats. Our thought was, hey, if he goes to Alabama,
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Speaker 1: he'll even if you doesn't play it down, somebody will
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Speaker 1: pick him up for camp, you know. Um, so we
12:33
Speaker 1: get to Washington State, you know, in his first games
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Speaker 1: out Woming and you know, they win, and then um,
12:41
Speaker 1: and then you get like second or third week there
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Speaker 1: at at em Pullment and you start seeing all these
12:49
Speaker 1: people with the mustaches in the stands. And let me
12:52
Speaker 1: tell you that's a great place up there. Um. Pullman
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Speaker 1: is way different than most people think about. Like, um,
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Speaker 1: the state of Washington is actually a very rule agricultural,
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Speaker 1: you know, grassroots type of people when you take out
13:09
Speaker 1: Seattle and and and a couple of cities like that.
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Speaker 1: So it's really a lot like the people in Mississippi.
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Speaker 1: I mean just just and they're like the people there
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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville as well. So um, and they just embraced
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Speaker 1: him and and you know, it was kind of a
13:24
Speaker 1: perfect storm. And I don't want to say that. Um.
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Speaker 1: You know, they had been through so much with the
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Speaker 1: Halenzk Tyler Herlenski passing in January, and I mean they
13:35
Speaker 1: were just they were hurting. The team was hurting, the
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Speaker 1: coaching staff. And so when Gardner goes in there kind
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Speaker 1: of you know, and and and he was just wanting
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Speaker 1: to go win games there again, he was thrilled to
13:48
Speaker 1: be playing for Leech. He had been running elements of
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Speaker 1: Leeches system his whole football career, and um and so.
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Speaker 1: And I think when he got there too, the journey
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Speaker 1: he had, he appreciated the opportunity more than a typical
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Speaker 1: kid with that age, because you think about and in
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Speaker 1: East Carolina, they were just not good. I mean, and
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Speaker 1: they had fired a coach and everybody loved, you know,
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Speaker 1: just didn't win a lot of games, and and and
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Speaker 1: so to get up there and even have an opportunity
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Speaker 1: to win six seven, eight games to go to a
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Speaker 1: bowl game, you know, I kind of kid about it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we just wanted to go to the freaking
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Speaker 1: wheat uh poolan we eat our bowl, you know, because
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Speaker 1: he had never gotten to go to a bowl, you
14:35
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I mean, he was always done.
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Speaker 1: Last game of the season. Do you remember thinking, Wow,
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Speaker 1: my son's on TV and it's all about his mustache.
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Speaker 1: That's kind of weird. H Well, but you know, and
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Speaker 1: a good thing was he was leaving the country and passing,
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Speaker 1: and the whole mustache thing, like that goofy kind of
14:52
Speaker 1: stuff that doesn't that didn't bother he had always gone
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Speaker 1: the mustache for camp, like to try to get the
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Speaker 1: other quarterbacks, just to kind of do something and uh
15:02
Speaker 1: and up there, people just kept asking about it, you know,
15:05
Speaker 1: when you're gonna shave the mustache and when, don't you know?
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Speaker 1: And he's and it just kind of evolved. And at
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Speaker 1: the end of the day, I was just glad. He
15:13
Speaker 1: was happy. They were winning ball games, having fun. You know,
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Speaker 1: he was healthy. Like the whole time at East Carolina.
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Speaker 1: He had had a left shoulder that would you know,
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Speaker 1: he had a problem with and finally had surgery on that.
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Speaker 1: And that's what he wants for Jacksonville. I mean, that's
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Speaker 1: I mean, he wants to go help him win ball games.
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Speaker 1: And if he if that meant, you know, handed off
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Speaker 1: forty times a game, and he would be fine with
15:38
Speaker 1: it because at the end of the day, and we
15:40
Speaker 1: learned this at East Carolina, you can have individual success
15:45
Speaker 1: and it could still be miserable. Right, definitely has the
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Speaker 1: will to win. So let's go last season game one,
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Speaker 1: chiefs Gardner goes in, where are you are you watching
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Speaker 1: on TV? Are you at the game? No, I'm actually
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Speaker 1: at the game. And so it was one of those
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Speaker 1: things that I was like, man, he's not gonna play.
16:05
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go. And really, at the end of
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Speaker 1: the day, Kim had some kitchen stuff she wanted me
16:09
Speaker 1: to bring down for his apartment, and she was like, Hey,
16:13
Speaker 1: you really ought to go. It's his first game. You know,
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Speaker 1: I've been to all the preseason games. She's like, you
16:17
Speaker 1: really ought to go. And at the end the back
16:19
Speaker 1: of her mind, I think she really just wanted me
16:20
Speaker 1: to take off his kitchen stuff down to it. But
16:23
Speaker 1: it's funny. So last night I was at the Southern
16:25
Speaker 1: Miss game and um and Logan Cook's dad was there
16:29
Speaker 1: and we were visiting. Uh he he lives down that
16:32
Speaker 1: way and we're only an hour and a half from there,
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Speaker 1: and um, and we were talking about because you know,
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Speaker 1: Logan when that happened, he was the emergency quarterback and
16:45
Speaker 1: uh and like limb, his dad is on the phone
16:48
Speaker 1: calling like our text and some of his family and
16:52
Speaker 1: like they're getting sick because they're thinking, man, he's gonna
16:56
Speaker 1: have to go in. And and so even Logan said
16:59
Speaker 1: he started watching and every time Gardner get hit, he'd
17:01
Speaker 1: be like, oh no, it's a getting up, you know,
17:04
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and UHU and his dad saw
17:08
Speaker 1: him fitting them what you know what the quarterback has
17:10
Speaker 1: a helmet with a speaker in it and all that,
17:12
Speaker 1: and they saw him fitting them with that and giving
17:14
Speaker 1: him arm band, and it was a chain reaction, you know.
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Speaker 1: And there again actually, and I know this sounds so clicheous,
17:22
Speaker 1: but it's so true. Um. I really just like when
17:26
Speaker 1: he got in, Okay, we're down, let's get a first down.
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Speaker 1: Let's you know, let's try to go down and put
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Speaker 1: together a score and drive. Um. That was really what
17:37
Speaker 1: I was thinking more than anything. And now we went
17:42
Speaker 1: to uh Calfred chop House that night after the Oh
17:47
Speaker 1: my gosh, yes, I mean there's a few great places
17:49
Speaker 1: there over that place. Um, and he and I kind
17:53
Speaker 1: of sit down and we kind of look at each
17:55
Speaker 1: other and we're like, man, what the hell just happened here? Like,
18:00
Speaker 1: you know, we know Nick's out, and we're like, oh
18:02
Speaker 1: my gosh, you know, and you just went in and
18:05
Speaker 1: you did well. And at the end of the day
18:08
Speaker 1: you still, you know, lost a game, but you're like,
18:11
Speaker 1: all right, now, man, you just played. I mean, this
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Speaker 1: is it. So it was kind of surreal, and you know,
18:17
Speaker 1: it was great to be there and share that with him,
18:19
Speaker 1: just because I literally been there since he played his
18:22
Speaker 1: first you know, plagued football game, and so it was awesome.
18:27
Speaker 1: So you're forever thankful for your wife that had kitchen
18:30
Speaker 1: stuff to go down to go. Yeah. Absolutely absolutely. And
18:36
Speaker 1: then obviously Thursday night football against the Titans, that for
18:39
Speaker 1: I think us was really the shining moment that, Wow,
18:43
Speaker 1: we are in the heat of this. This is so cool, Minshew.
18:46
Speaker 1: Magic is is everywhere. And I remember you standing on
18:49
Speaker 1: the stage NFL Network the postgame interview and it's you
18:52
Speaker 1: and your family and you're looking around. What's going through
18:55
Speaker 1: your head at that moment? Well, okay, so back up
18:58
Speaker 1: a little bit. So it's late, it's like in the
19:01
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, and you know, we were ahead, but we
19:03
Speaker 1: weren't that far ahead. And so one of the one
19:06
Speaker 1: of the ladies with the Jaguars is like, hey, we
19:09
Speaker 1: want you and your family to come down. And I'm like, okay,
19:12
Speaker 1: we'll come down. And she's like, well come on, I'm
19:15
Speaker 1: like I'm not coming right now. This game and over.
19:19
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna sit right here and watch. And
19:21
Speaker 1: so she stood there and watched with us because you know,
19:24
Speaker 1: like I said, I wouldn't go in anywhere. I wouldn't.
19:26
Speaker 1: So we get down there and they never told us.
19:29
Speaker 1: They said, hey, we want you all to be down there,
19:30
Speaker 1: just a surprise gardener he's gonna be on and I'm like, okay, cool.
19:34
Speaker 1: And then we get down there. They start miking me up.
19:38
Speaker 1: They start biking me up and everybody around me. He's like, uh,
19:42
Speaker 1: let's see gonna you know, yeah, at least the game's over.
19:46
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna blurt something out, you know. And so
19:50
Speaker 1: we really didn't know we were going on stage. So
19:52
Speaker 1: we were going on stage. You know. Of course you
19:54
Speaker 1: go up there and there's Mikeelerbers. I think Maurice Joan
19:57
Speaker 1: Drew was there as well, wasn't Yeah, and then uh,
20:01
Speaker 1: Steve Smith. People ask you, oh man, you work out,
20:04
Speaker 1: and you know, I always just say something stupid, like
20:08
Speaker 1: you know, now I do this or do that. I
20:10
Speaker 1: think I said I run marathons or something you did.
20:12
Speaker 1: I watched the interview this morning. Yeah yeah, and it's like,
20:16
Speaker 1: you know, what do you say to that? Yeah? I work, yeah,
20:21
Speaker 1: you know, so, um, and I tell you one cool
20:25
Speaker 1: thing that really and this wasn't on camera, And I
20:27
Speaker 1: don't mind sharing it. So Michael Irvin. You know how
20:30
Speaker 1: he dresses. Man, He's always dressed. Yeah. So his shoes
20:36
Speaker 1: matched his his suit, like the same pattern. And so
20:41
Speaker 1: we're walking off the stage, you know, you know, cameras
20:44
Speaker 1: are off and all that, and uh, I said, hey, Mike,
20:47
Speaker 1: I said, I noticed some shoes right there, and he goes, Man,
20:50
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, brother, he said. Let me tell you something.
20:53
Speaker 1: He said the NFL. He goes, I commend you on
20:57
Speaker 1: being a father. He goes to NFL Nie needs more families,
21:01
Speaker 1: and you know in bobed in here and and that
21:04
Speaker 1: that kind of stood out to me. I really appreciated that.
21:07
Speaker 1: But you know, it's so true because we deal with
21:10
Speaker 1: so much stuff and all this, and and I think
21:14
Speaker 1: a lot of things would be a lot better, you know,
21:16
Speaker 1: if if there were more family unity like that. Yeah,
21:20
Speaker 1: I mean, you think about it. I can't remember another
21:22
Speaker 1: time like that where it's a postgame interview and a
21:25
Speaker 1: family like that is on the stage. Yeah. Yeah, of course.
21:29
Speaker 1: My wife's always given me craps. He's like, what did
21:31
Speaker 1: you do? Did you go down? I'm like, no, they
21:34
Speaker 1: asked me to come down. You made them on stage. Yeah, exactly.
21:40
Speaker 1: We can't talk about all the antics. And I think
21:44
Speaker 1: that's what makes him so fun to be around, to
21:46
Speaker 1: be a part of this team. I think the first
21:48
Speaker 1: thing that stands outs are in a press conference and
21:51
Speaker 1: he's telling us how he took a hammer to his
21:53
Speaker 1: hand you to get a medical red shirt in college,
21:57
Speaker 1: and we're thinking, what the heck is this kid? I
22:01
Speaker 1: can just chuckle. He says, well, hey, let me tell
22:05
Speaker 1: you the bad part about that is he and I
22:07
Speaker 1: talked about that. Now. I didn't know it was gonna
22:09
Speaker 1: be a hammer, but I mean, so when he went
22:11
Speaker 1: to East Carolina, he was supposed to go there and
22:13
Speaker 1: red shirt, and they have one quarterback quit and then
22:18
Speaker 1: another one got hurt, and then Phil gets hurt and
22:21
Speaker 1: he has to go I mean, he has to go
22:22
Speaker 1: in and we're like, dang, you know, and so the
22:26
Speaker 1: red shirts blown and and at this point now we're
22:29
Speaker 1: on the phone. I'm at home in Mississippi and he's
22:31
Speaker 1: up there and it's like, yeah, I mean I kind
22:35
Speaker 1: of get it. I mean, you know, I'm like, what
22:38
Speaker 1: are you gonna do. I'm like, you're gonna slam me
22:40
Speaker 1: hand in a card or I'm not saying, hey, you
22:43
Speaker 1: need to do this by any means, but I know
22:44
Speaker 1: he's gonna do it anyway, so I'm trying, you know.
22:48
Speaker 1: And and what's bad is when that story came out,
22:51
Speaker 1: my wife comes to me and she goes, hey, did
22:54
Speaker 1: you know about that? And I'm like, well, yeah I did,
22:58
Speaker 1: and She's like, oh my god, you like Father of
23:00
Speaker 1: the Year. So yeah. But the good thing about all
23:05
Speaker 1: that is, and Ashton, you've been around him enough to
23:07
Speaker 1: know and your teammates would know that's just him, you know. Uh,
23:13
Speaker 1: if you were trying to be fake about that, I mean,
23:17
Speaker 1: y'all would have seen through that by game six last year.
23:20
Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't work. So that's that's just his personality.
23:23
Speaker 1: And one thing I always tell him before is four
23:26
Speaker 1: games and ill was, Hey, go out there and have
23:28
Speaker 1: fun because that's what that's what it's supposed to be.
23:31
Speaker 1: And the day it doesn't become fun, I mean, that's
23:34
Speaker 1: a that's a sad day. Gardner and I are the
23:36
Speaker 1: same age, and I always find it interesting. He seems
23:39
Speaker 1: like such an old soul. I remember going up to
23:42
Speaker 1: Jaguars Lunch one day. Yogurt part fay bar, best part
23:46
Speaker 1: of Jaguars Lunch. Gardners sme there speaker phone. The Doobie
23:51
Speaker 1: Brothers is playing. The only reason I know the Doobie
23:54
Speaker 1: Brothers is because my mom made me go to a
23:56
Speaker 1: concert two weeks ago. I'm thinking of your old guy
24:00
Speaker 1: is willingly listening to the Doobie Brothers. Well, and part
24:04
Speaker 1: of that might be my fault becomes, you know, like
24:07
Speaker 1: riding around a lot of these parents put the radio on,
24:10
Speaker 1: you know, Radio Disney or Kids Bop or some crap
24:14
Speaker 1: like that. Now we were we were rolling with Led
24:17
Speaker 1: Zeppelin and Almand Brothers and everybody else. So it might
24:21
Speaker 1: be one of those things that he just, you know,
24:23
Speaker 1: didn't really have a choice, that's what he knows, uh,
24:27
Speaker 1: But now he does. He and um, y'all got a
24:30
Speaker 1: guy there in Jacksonville that what his dad was in
24:33
Speaker 1: the Almond Brothers or uh Tedesky is right, And he
24:38
Speaker 1: actually got to meet him and spend some time with
24:40
Speaker 1: him this week. And so he's been trying to learn
24:43
Speaker 1: to play the guitar. And that's another one of those
24:45
Speaker 1: things he's doing just so when he gets home, he's
24:48
Speaker 1: not thinking about ball. He's just practicing the guitar. But
24:51
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't much Britney spears or anything like
24:55
Speaker 1: that going on in my truck. You seem like Britney
24:59
Speaker 1: spears at a guy that surprises me. Well, you know,
25:01
Speaker 1: she is a Mississippi girl. But I mean, let's just
25:05
Speaker 1: don't tell anybody, you know, um um, anybody asked, If
25:10
Speaker 1: anybody asked, it's it's it's Almond Brothers. So it's interesting.
25:14
Speaker 1: Gardner said something a couple of weeks ago that definitely
25:16
Speaker 1: we've taken notice too, is this is his first camp
25:19
Speaker 1: since high school coming in that he knew he was
25:22
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback, and we're already already noticing a difference,
25:25
Speaker 1: and it's confidence. He definitely is carrying himself like a starter.
25:29
Speaker 1: What have you seen from him this offseason? What conversations
25:31
Speaker 1: have you had that that makes you think he's definitely
25:34
Speaker 1: taking this opportunity to his advantage. I think that's one thing.
25:38
Speaker 1: He has a perspective that it could all end pretty quick.
25:42
Speaker 1: And you know, he's worked his whole life to be
25:44
Speaker 1: where he is right now, but he doesn't. He's not
25:48
Speaker 1: satisfied where he is right now. I think the only
25:51
Speaker 1: way he knows how to go about it is to compete.
25:54
Speaker 1: We got all these little minshewisms around the house that
25:57
Speaker 1: they heard his kids growing up, and one of them is, hey,
26:00
Speaker 1: if you're not getting better, you're getting worse. You don't
26:02
Speaker 1: ever stay the same and so and there's a lot
26:06
Speaker 1: of truth to that. I mean, they got sick of
26:08
Speaker 1: hearing it, but uh, but you know, that's just kind
26:11
Speaker 1: of ingrained at them, and and he took to it.
26:15
Speaker 1: They need to go out there and have a good
26:17
Speaker 1: start against Indianapolis, figure out who they are, and then
26:20
Speaker 1: uh and what works and what doesn't work. I'm not
26:23
Speaker 1: a big expectations guy because I know, I mean, you
26:26
Speaker 1: just look at last year, and nobody talks about this
26:30
Speaker 1: with Jacksonville. Like I remember at one point last year,
26:34
Speaker 1: it was later in the season, He's like, I literally
26:37
Speaker 1: don't know half the guys on the defense. There were
26:40
Speaker 1: so many injuries, you know, and then like you look
26:42
Speaker 1: at a guy like like dam Josh Oliver, you know,
26:45
Speaker 1: and just how fragile it is when you got fifty
26:48
Speaker 1: three guys out there and man, five or six of
26:51
Speaker 1: those guys get hurt and you're like, oh my god.
26:55
Speaker 1: And then everybody else is kind of going through some
26:57
Speaker 1: of that, and so they're trying to pick up the
26:59
Speaker 1: pieces and put back together. And you know that. I
27:02
Speaker 1: hate to say there's a little luck involved, because you
27:04
Speaker 1: make your luck, but you better you better be ready
27:08
Speaker 1: to roll with the changes and because there's gonna be
27:10
Speaker 1: some you know, every week. I do think that what
27:14
Speaker 1: the Jaguars are doing. I get tickled at the whole
27:16
Speaker 1: tanking thing because and I think Gardner said this other
27:20
Speaker 1: day and his interview, and it's like, dude, if they tank,
27:23
Speaker 1: they're gonna lose their freaking jobs. I mean, I mean
27:27
Speaker 1: card Is Gardners included cal Well, all the coaches. I mean,
27:33
Speaker 1: you know, nobody keeps guys around because they like them.
27:36
Speaker 1: You've got to be productive. I mean that that just
27:38
Speaker 1: people are that naive or you know, and I guess
27:41
Speaker 1: people just want an excuse, you know, they want to
27:44
Speaker 1: be angry about stuff, you know. And I think they
27:46
Speaker 1: got a good core group. They got guys that want
27:49
Speaker 1: to be there. And I think that's part of what
27:52
Speaker 1: Carl Well at Marone, not that I'm privy to any
27:55
Speaker 1: kind of conversation, and in truth, he told Gardner and
27:57
Speaker 1: I don't talk about stuff like that. You can't. You
27:59
Speaker 1: can't convinced me that they're not trying to do what's
28:02
Speaker 1: best for the team right now, because they like said
28:06
Speaker 1: that if they don't, they're not They're not gonna be
28:08
Speaker 1: here in January. Anyway. Yep, I couldn't agree more. Flipman, Shoot,
28:13
Speaker 1: thanks so much for being our first guest on The
28:16
Speaker 1: Shlin Show on Right around the Corner. Yeah, hey, little
28:20
Speaker 1: little trivia. As far as my podcast history, I was on.
28:24
Speaker 1: I was the first guest on the Golic Family podcast
28:27
Speaker 1: as well. And yeah, and they actually gave me Guests
28:32
Speaker 1: of the Year. But another part of that caveat to
28:35
Speaker 1: that too is uh I was the only guest they had.
28:41
Speaker 1: So anyway, you know what you said, A high bar.
28:44
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you guests the years now, Yeah, I said,
28:47
Speaker 1: I hope you can upgrade weekly. If not, I'm afraid
28:51
Speaker 1: your podcast will fast for you long. You said a
28:55
Speaker 1: high bar, don't worry so much. Thank you, and if
28:59
Speaker 1: you need anything to fall, we'll do. Thanks. I'll talk
29:01
Speaker 1: to you soon. Can't thank Flintmanto enough for being our
29:05
Speaker 1: first guest this week and setting the bar so very high.
29:09
Speaker 1: I hope everyone found him as entertaining as I did.
29:12
Speaker 1: And we learned a little bit more about q B one.
29:15
Speaker 1: So many great people to think for getting this podcast
29:18
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29:21
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29:26
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29:29
Speaker 1: Savannah Wood for posting, and so many more. I hope
29:33
Speaker 1: this episode did not make your ears bleed and you
29:36
Speaker 1: actually somewhat liked it and you'll come back and listen.
29:40
Speaker 1: If not, we're not friends anymore. See up. Have a
29:43
Speaker 1: nice life, that's all,