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Ruthless Records · Hip-Hop Now Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Like we said, we've done a number of these episodes,
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  Speaker 1: But this show is about some of that, but also
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  Speaker 1: about giving you the facts about things that happen historically
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  Speaker 1: and in the episode today, reminding you of the important
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  Speaker 1: of certain artist groups, record labels and such. But before
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  Speaker 1: we get into that real quick, we like to look
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  Speaker 1: back in hip hop history in this month in hip
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  Speaker 1: hop history. On April twenty fifth, nineteen ninety five, Mob
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  Speaker 1: Deep released this sophomore album, Infamous, and in two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and five, this is the thirtieth anniversary of that album.
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  Speaker 2: Tone.
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  Speaker 1: What was your first experience hearing this version of Mob
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  Speaker 1: Deep and what do you think about the album overall?
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  Speaker 4: Bro, I'm gonna tell you what's funny. B T were
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  Speaker 4: sitting in my living room with the crib I'm home
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  Speaker 4: of for like the weekend. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: I'm in college.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, I'm home.
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  Speaker 4: Before we getting some of my cousins and homers came
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  Speaker 4: over to the crib just to kick it, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And Shook Warm video was on and
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  Speaker 4: one of my cousin man shout up my cousin John.
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  Speaker 3: He was like, it's these dudes from New York Mob deep.
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  Speaker 4: Dog, Like I know the name that was them, dude,
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  Speaker 4: the young boys Poetic probably hit it from the back
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  Speaker 4: whatever whatever, Nah, yeah, but check this this.
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  Speaker 3: New joint man.
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  Speaker 4: So I go up in the living room he pumping
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  Speaker 4: Shook Ones and I just saw them in it and
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  Speaker 4: then the car driving rhyme it and I was like,
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  Speaker 4: this is the hardest beat evermer here since like so
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  Speaker 4: much you're saying with EPMB, That's what I was thinking
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  Speaker 4: when I first heard Shook Ones and it was nuts.
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  Speaker 4: And then I ain't you know, I got back to
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  Speaker 4: school and got the album. I know for gigs, I
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  Speaker 4: used to go to the joint court school kids right
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  Speaker 4: by campus.
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  Speaker 3: You put it, you know, you do the walkman test.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, y'all put that joint in,
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  Speaker 4: put their heads on, and walk back to campus because
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  Speaker 4: you know, back then it's hard to get parking, so
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  Speaker 4: my car isn't able to move it, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I walked back to campus and you know,
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  Speaker 4: you're going track, the track, the track, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: every song, Feeler is getting better and better. And I
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  Speaker 4: remember telling my homie yesterday cause having come to his
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  Speaker 4: mother Infamous from the drink champs draining with nice said
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  Speaker 4: what he said, you know, we can say something about
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  Speaker 4: that in a minute, and I was like, juvenile Hell
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  Speaker 4: to the Infamous. It's quite possibly the biggest jump and skill,
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  Speaker 4: level of production and everything that maybe I've ever seen
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  Speaker 4: the hip hop history. Like it went from these two
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  Speaker 4: little kids, juvenile Hell to well they got signed on,
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  Speaker 4: you know, they trying to find their way to the
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  Speaker 4: infamous being to this day a queer essential and you
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  Speaker 4: from New York, A corner Central New York album, hip
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  Speaker 4: hop album, East Coast classic that has stood the test
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  Speaker 4: of time, and you could even say shook Ones is
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  Speaker 4: one of the most recognized songs in hip hop history.
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  Speaker 3: I think eight Mile had.
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  Speaker 4: It too, right, so man, it blew me away when
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  Speaker 4: I first heard the entire album.
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  Speaker 3: Man, so just hearing it again.
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  Speaker 4: I rolled to it the other day after drink Champce
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  Speaker 4: because me and P had a conversation. He like, Yo,
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  Speaker 4: for me, that's the that's the album. That's the one.
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  Speaker 4: I said, Man, I'm a ride to this joining my
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  Speaker 4: commute today just to see what's good again, man, like
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  Speaker 4: you know, And I rolled the Durham Rough cardlot. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I mean Clem's outside of wants to say it. So
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  Speaker 4: I had a commute man with hour and I listened
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  Speaker 4: to the album again and I was like, it still
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  Speaker 4: sounds as good and fresh as it sounded in ninety five. Man,
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  Speaker 4: amazing body of work.
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  Speaker 3: Amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. I feel the same way.
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  Speaker 1: When I first because I had the Juvenile Held album, right,
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  Speaker 1: because that was one of them times you know, going
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  Speaker 1: to the record store you don't really have the joint.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing out that you know you want to get,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, looking through the sauce, you like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: mnna just get something that was featured.
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  Speaker 2: Wound up getting that.
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  Speaker 1: I remember seeing the single for Shook Ones first and
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know it just didn't registered to me.
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  Speaker 2: It was the same, mom deep you.
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  Speaker 3: Know what I can They didn't even sound the same.
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  Speaker 1: No, But I didn't even hear it yet because back
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  Speaker 1: in the nineties in Brooklyn there was a record store
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  Speaker 1: called Beach Street that everybody would go to in downtown Vulting.
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  Speaker 2: Downtown Brooklyn. But there was a DJ there shout out.
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  Speaker 1: To him, damn Goldfinger, shout out to Goldfinger. But I
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  Speaker 1: just went up to him, like, yo, this is because
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  Speaker 1: the cover was like the Queensbridge signed with the Orange
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  Speaker 1: and the Blue yea had their name, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't see their face. I was like, yo, is
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  Speaker 1: this the same dudes who had that album? He was
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  Speaker 1: like yeah, and it's fire. So when he said that,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, well, I must just buy it, and
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  Speaker 1: like you, I went home and listened and at first
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  Speaker 1: I heard the other verses like shook one's part one, right,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I was like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was kind of cool. It's a little different from
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  Speaker 1: what they used to do. But like you said, I
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  Speaker 1: heard that one's part two and I was like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: this is the one. And then when the album came out,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like you like. It was almost unbelievable because
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  Speaker 1: it was like listening to a different group all together,
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  Speaker 1: the Beats, the Rams, the cadence I did. Prodigy did
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  Speaker 1: an interview before he passed away, and he talked about
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  Speaker 1: how that change came about, and he said he said
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  Speaker 1: he credited nas in Ellmatic because he said they did
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  Speaker 1: their first album and it came out at a time
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  Speaker 1: where the way they were rapping that was the thing,
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  Speaker 1: he said. But when he heard Elmatic, he was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I can just talk about when I'm living, like street
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  Speaker 1: life and all of that. So he kind of was
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  Speaker 1: like I had to formulove by then. He was like,
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  Speaker 1: and then that's when having changed the style of beats
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  Speaker 1: or in q tip helped him obviously out Uh. Prodigy
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  Speaker 1: was like, I knew exactly how I should be rapping
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  Speaker 1: in like you said that video, like on the bridge,
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  Speaker 1: just driving and looking at the camera. Yeah, just crazy time, man.
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  Speaker 1: But I did hear what name said, and I was
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  Speaker 1: kind of conflicted because honestly, I don't know about no.
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  Speaker 2: But he said, Mob Deep Infamous is the greatest New.
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  Speaker 1: York hip hop album of all time, And I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if I could be mad at that because even
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  Speaker 1: though I could think of a couple that I would
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  Speaker 1: say are probably better albums, it's tough to say that
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  Speaker 1: ain't one of them, that's for sure. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And you know what, when I talked to him, what
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  Speaker 4: he was also saying to is not it ain't even
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  Speaker 4: necessarily got to be the best one.
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  Speaker 3: But when he think of New York, he think of
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  Speaker 3: the infamous, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: So that's kind of context too us, Like it's the
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  Speaker 4: most New York album. The teams, the sound, vibe, everything,
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  Speaker 4: you get what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: So so I still feel the same way because they're
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  Speaker 1: like even when I look at something like Smith and
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  Speaker 1: Wesson or Black Moon, like those are Thames types.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, albums, I mean they're all kind of around.
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  Speaker 3: They all want the same vibe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like Illmatic, like New York New York. State of
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  Speaker 1: Mind is the most New York record I've ever heard
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  Speaker 1: of my life, because it's it's so well, Nah, you're right,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I mean. I'm perflicted because when you start
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  Speaker 1: to think of Shook Ones too, Survival of the Fittest.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a good conversation, yeah, it is, But definitely
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  Speaker 1: celebrating that album thirty years in recipes Prodigy Classic album Tone.
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  Speaker 1: What's like your three favorite tracks off of that album?
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  Speaker 3: Bro?
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  Speaker 4: Listening again, like I said this week, Man, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: go with he Shook one is an easy pick someone
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  Speaker 4: aside that went to the side and think about I like,
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  Speaker 4: I like Up North Tree Up Man, I like Credit
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  Speaker 4: to the Grave.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: And uh, I might go with Drink Away the Painting man,
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  Speaker 4: mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Damn. It's so many Bro.
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  Speaker 1: You can literally name anything off the album and just
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  Speaker 1: be like yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And it would be fun because you know, somebody else
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  Speaker 4: might say ship wants about with the Fittest and then
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  Speaker 4: you know, I even like party over right.
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  Speaker 1: I think for me it's definitely Survival of the Fittest
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  Speaker 1: because I listened to the game too like you, and
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  Speaker 1: I was just like, man, this this song is so
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  Speaker 1: dope Survival of the Fittest. I like Temperatures Rising a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I like the hook as much
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  Speaker 1: with the singing, but that beat and the story, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like it was just so dope and and.
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  Speaker 2: Give up the Goods.
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  Speaker 1: You talk about a record that wasn't technically a party record,
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  Speaker 1: But when I came to Morgan State, they were playing
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  Speaker 1: it every time in the parties.
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  Speaker 2: Just classic stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, But for those of y'all watching, leave your
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  Speaker 1: comments in a comment section below. What do you think
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  Speaker 1: about the infamous Mob Deep sophomore album on his thirtieth anniversary?
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  Speaker 1: Do you still play to this day? What's your three
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  Speaker 1: top songs off the album? Leave your comments in the
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  Speaker 1: comments section below. But now we're going to get into
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  Speaker 1: what everybody saw on the cover art. Read in the title,
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  Speaker 1: y'all know what it is. Tone, tell the people what
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  Speaker 1: we're here to talk about.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 4: You know what, when people think about the West Coast,
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  Speaker 4: for some reason, they started with death Row Records, and
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  Speaker 4: they think about what death Row did for hip hop,
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  Speaker 4: right obvious legendary Doctor Dre sug Night, the DL see
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  Speaker 4: Snoop Dog the Chronic coming out, and you know, and
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  Speaker 4: shifting West Coast again and then Doggy Style Voga Realm, soundtracked, Dogful.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you got laid raised popping off these verses,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, and then Doctor Dre Lee's and the
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  Speaker 4: understudy of death Row is after math, and then.
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  Speaker 3: You end up getting M and M who changed the world.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: It becomes this global rock star rapper, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying. And then he manages to get this this
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  Speaker 4: dude from South Side, Jamaica Queen's mixtape and say, I
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  Speaker 4: like that dude.
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  Speaker 3: What's his name? Fifty cent? Okay, Now we got this
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  Speaker 3: Mogul and Global Moga.
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  Speaker 4: And fifty Cin and you got this whole thing that
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  Speaker 4: started with death Row to some people imagination, but the
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  Speaker 4: reality is it all started in nineteen eighty seven with
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  Speaker 4: Easy E and Jerry Hello sitting down putting together Ruthless Records.
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  Speaker 3: People. Ruthless Records the most underrated, underappreciated label that literally
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  Speaker 3: shift the West Coast hip hop for folk. Death Row
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  Speaker 3: it is the big brother and the father of Death
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  Speaker 3: Row both. And let me just tell you real quick,
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  Speaker 3: imagine hip hop without Easy E, NWA Bone Thugs and
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna name and talk.
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  Speaker 4: About more if Ruthless doesn't pop off. There is no
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  Speaker 4: death Row people, there is no Doctor Dre. Now understand
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  Speaker 4: what's under Doctor Dre's tree, what's on the NBA's tree.
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  Speaker 4: Let's started Ruthless regular and Easy E putting his own
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  Speaker 4: money together first to start the lover label. They end
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  Speaker 4: up doing the song the street song Boys in the Hood,
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  Speaker 4: and they set this record label off. This is Eric
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  Speaker 4: Easy E Wright. He's the big home of the NWA
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  Speaker 4: because he doesn't put the money up and people can
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  Speaker 4: talk about his business of mentality with Jared Hiller will
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  Speaker 4: get to do some of that, but if he still
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  Speaker 4: doesn't do anything. West Coast hip hop and hip hop
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  Speaker 4: is different. Yeah, you plan like it's totally different. We're
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  Speaker 4: gonna talk about some of that as well, man, but
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  Speaker 4: Vegas crazy on you really think about Straight out of
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  Speaker 4: Compton is from Ruthless Records.
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  Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, and I'm glad you said what you said
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  Speaker 1: about Easy putting up his own money because now it's
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  Speaker 1: cool to say indeed, but Easy was doing.
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  Speaker 3: That bang then thirty eight years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Thirty eight years ago with a stellar cast of characters
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  Speaker 1: who are now legends and moles and all that good stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and for themselves, Easy and Ruthless Records were the blueprint.
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  Speaker 1: And now I'm with you on that, Like, once you
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  Speaker 1: and I see we're gonna do this, but once you
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  Speaker 1: start to go down that rabbit hole of what they
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  Speaker 1: were as a label and not just you know, NWA
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  Speaker 1: likes some people like to really isolated to like Ruthless
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  Speaker 1: Records was NWA and that's it when there were other
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  Speaker 1: acts on there who were popular at the time and
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  Speaker 1: not all hip hop as you can see.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, you know, it's really amazing when you think
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  Speaker 4: about thirty eight years ago now that that Easy and
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  Speaker 4: Jerry Hill have started this label, and I also I'll
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  Speaker 4: be remissed by then say we'll talk about NBA under
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  Speaker 4: the NBA tree.
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  Speaker 3: We got this gentleman named O's Jackson, right, ice.
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  Speaker 4: Cube right, Yeah, his legendary career in Hollywood and of
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  Speaker 4: course in music first, but he's from NWA people, so
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  Speaker 4: straight out of competent Ice Cube is owner. He's born
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  Speaker 4: in the members of the NBA before he left, you
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  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So I just want to make
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  Speaker 4: sure we put that in the context Ice cubist from
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  Speaker 4: this tree of.
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  Speaker 3: Ruthless Reapers, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: And maybe if there's a Ruther's Records, as Q don't
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  Speaker 4: get that chance to even some point, well he don't
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  Speaker 4: get a chance of being the NBA, then it doesn't
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  Speaker 4: then what's his trajectory he might end up not being
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  Speaker 4: the NBA. I mean the the person he ended up
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  Speaker 4: being because of the NBA. He doesn't have the NBA, he
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  Speaker 4: doesn't foster a relationship with Chuck d and uh and
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  Speaker 4: a lot of East Cote EPM being the East Coast
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  Speaker 4: guys to be on tour with these guys and be
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  Speaker 4: able to be produced by the Bomb Squad for Americans
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  Speaker 4: most wanted, you know what I'm saying, and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 4: Then it takes him to another love with his legendary
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  Speaker 4: career starts and then all of a sudden he's opened
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  Speaker 4: up this door to being on Boys in the Hood
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  Speaker 4: the movie. Then he's he writes Friday, and then all
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  Speaker 4: this other stuff he's done in the last thirty years
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  Speaker 4: of his career and his life. You know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 4: All of that is from the tree of Ruthless Records. Man,
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  Speaker 4: Like again, what what do we what do we start?
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  Speaker 4: You know, like the DC debut alblem is from Ruthless Records.
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  Speaker 4: No one can do it better. And people that know
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  Speaker 4: understand that DC not having that accident he was consider
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  Speaker 4: about a lot of people back then, like the like
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  Speaker 4: the West Coast and Texas version of like Rock Hemmington.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, people looked at him like
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  Speaker 4: he was gonna be that large you know what I'm saying, Like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, really when where he came out and no
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  Speaker 4: one can do it better. He was larger than Ice
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  Speaker 4: QB and all those guys at that time, because no
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  Speaker 4: one can do better like eighty nine. You know what
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying if you came out to you after that.
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  Speaker 4: So he was the face. He was like the first
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  Speaker 4: big solo guy out of the NBA tree. That's the
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  Speaker 4: DC and that album is on Ruthless Records. Easy Easy
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  Speaker 4: does it with set South Ruther's Records is Easy Easy,
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  Speaker 4: even Davy.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of an NBA.
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  Speaker 2: Album, Yeah it is.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost like a testing testing ground for what they
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: would eventually do, which you know. Me when I was
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: thinking about this and working on a rundown, you know,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: the you're about the waitness to strength, the street knowledge,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: and I was trying to say, I was trying to think,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: like damn, what was the sound of Ruthless Records. Because
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: we can say death Bro and a certain sound comes
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: to mind. We could say bad Boy and a certain
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: you know sound comes to mind. But Ruthless Records was
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: like real, it was reality rap right, It was a
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: lot of it would be called uh gangster rap at
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: one point or labeled that, but it was a lot
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: that was familiar to people who weren't even in California,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: right Like, because again, like we said, you had uh
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: jj fad. Yeah, they didn't look or or perform any
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: different to me, right, supersonic and all that. Some people
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: forget that part too, that jj fad was on Ruthless
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: and Ruthless.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Michelle A and the R and B joints was hitting back.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: And that No More Lives or whatever her her debut album. Man,
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: like There's Something in My Heart and all that. I mean,
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: if you go back anyone listening, if you like R
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: and B soft R and B, if you like like
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: Anita Baker type music and stuff like that, go go
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: go to YouTube and put Michelle a album in and
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: just listen to that production. For one, the productions is
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: crazy with doctor Dre And then listen to her the
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: way she's singing those love ballance on that album as
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: a fantastic album, bro, you know what I'm saying, Like,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: oh my god, it was.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: It was a great album, man, you know what I'm saying.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: And again, just real.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Quick Ruthless Records released albums by over twenty artists.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: A lot of people don't know that.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: And Ruth's Records also sol over one hundred and ten
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: million records. This is free death row and a lot
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: of labels at that time weren't selling over one hundred
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: million records. You know what I'm saying, Oh totality undre
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: man record under saying, a lot of them that started
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: way back then up to now still hasn't reached you know,
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: one hundred million records, you know what I'm saying. And
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: then also you gotta think about the production and change.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: We often talk about the g funk and everything and
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: the Parliament and everything like that that Doctor Dre was
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: doing on the Chronic, you know how it changed West
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Coast and changed hip hop. But that was the second
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: time Doctor Dre and his team us hip hop. Could
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: they change it with Niggas for Life and and all
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: that stuff, and DLC them albums several years before that, Like.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what time hold up real quick? If
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: you think about both, like you just said, both n
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: w A albums and the DC album the production is
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: different on all three. Yeah, Like it's a totally different
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: energy and sound. You know what I'm saying, which is crazy.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: It is crazy, man, Like you know Easy Easy Does It.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: You know, it's kind of more guttter, you know, production
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: is kind of basement damn there, like myth the Man
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: to Cal album, you know what I'm saying.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: But then you got Niggas for Life.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: End up.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: The second album is clean like what the Rister did
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: with Olivill q Blinks, the West Coast version of that clean.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: I mean the engineering. You can tell the engineering.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: Had stepped up a whole notch from first of all
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: Easy Easy Does It to you know, straight out Compton
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: in the same year or whatever. But then d OC
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: album and then Niggas for Life. You just hear it
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: get cleaner and cleaner op to what Dre did on
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: the Chronic which against the Little Bother ott Son or
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: whatever too to rucas rcords. You know they easy and
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: ruthless and Dre. And I'm responsible for changing music on
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: the West Coast and in hip hop more than one time.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm glad you pointed that out because it's
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like we've seen it with like all
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: these legendary producers, like you said with Rizza, like with
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Doctor Dre like with Primo, right, like you see that
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: you can hear the growth, you tip, you can hear
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: the growth in the production. But Doctor was like the
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: maestro because again we said those three albums were different,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: but he also did an R and B album.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and also I will be REMISSI of but to
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: make sure that just in the whole history of Ruther's Rutgers,
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: you know, we still again we're talking about Doctor Drab.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: We also got to give Cold one a seven props
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: from above the ball. You know what I'm saying, You
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: gotta think about what you got. Djail is unique or whatever.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Bone Thugs, you know what I'm saying. If you gotta
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: think Bone Thugs had five albums as a group on
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Ruther's Rutgers. And for you guys who might not be
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: as familiar with Bone Thugs, there was a point in
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: time in ninety four ninety five where Bone Thugs was
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: potentially the biggest group of hip hop that was right
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: there close to the top.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, selling millions of records. You
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say that like when you when you
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: quoted that number, some people may think, oh, Yeah, n
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: WA one platinum.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Bone Thugs is a big.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: Portion on top platinum group that we platinum several times
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: over on each hour album. And of course we know that.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: You know, of course you got the First of the
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: Month and and stuff like that. But when they cross
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Rolls happened. You know what I'm saying. Cross Rolls is
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: a signature hip hop song. That's like, if there's a
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: hip hop Hall of Fame, cross Rolls in there. One
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: of the deepest songs in hip hop history that was
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: dedicated to Bone Thugs, family and Easy.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: If you go listen to you go watch the video,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But yeah, man, you got
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: the love for the love of money. You know what
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. We're Easy and Bone Thugs many and Bone
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: thus changed the game, you know what I'm saying, because
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: that kind of harmony those people doing something, but that
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: harmony they was doing there are These are one of
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: the most unique groups and hipop history. And you got
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: five group albums on Ruther's records, but you also have
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: solo albums on Ruther's records from Crazy Busy.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: And Lazy Bone.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying you're talking about I want
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: to say five six about not albums Bone Thug affiliated
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: that came up under Ruther's Rutgords. Man, that's a lot
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: of music. That's a lot of albums.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, man, And I think that's what gets
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: lost in it because I think people associated with n
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: W A and and not even not even always the
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: stuff before straight out of Confident. It's like they start
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: with straight out of contents. Sometimes they forget about Niggas
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: for Life and then Dre and Everybody's gone, and they
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: think that's Ruthless Records. But Ruthless Records was highly successful
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: after Dre and Q were going. Like you said with
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Bone Thugs, you know what I'm saying, easy kind of
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: had a resurgence.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: We have four or.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: Five albums on Ruthless Rutgers. Some of them were some
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: of them were successful, you know what I'm saying.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah he did that.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: And then also again there was I just make I'm
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: in a note right here, two J J Fas albums
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: for m C.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: W Rent albums for albums right but above the law,
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: the law.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, And for some people might
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: not really above the Law was a pretty uh popular
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: and successful rap group from the West Coast at that
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: time as well.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Above the Law Get a Lot of Love.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: If you ask anybody from the West Coast about Above
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: the Law, they'll show him a lot of love and
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: cold one on a seven. It's a dope producer from
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: from Above the Law, you know what I'm saying. So
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: y'all can't wait for some of my West Coast homies,
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: uh see this episode, like to see what their thoughts
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: on this man, because it's dedicated to them. And this
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: this episode is dedicated to the West Coast too, because
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: Vegas from New York and I'm from North Carolina, but
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: we got love for the West Coast and Vegas been
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: on record for years saying his favorite them.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: See if I'm not mistaken is ice Q. You know
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Your favorite is Biggy, but your favorite
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: album was The Death Certificate.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah all hands down?
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Is that's right?
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Favorite all time?
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Also, this this is how out like and it's not
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: just me obviously, Tone is one of those and there
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: are plenty of us out there who are just hip
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: hop fans. No regions, no none of.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: That, just.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: That that same Brooklyn record store I told you about.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I went out and bought this mostly off the strength
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: of the review in the source. This is Cocaine's debut.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, I didn't know anything about them, it was
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: just the source kind of cod signed it, and then
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: when I saw it was Ruthless Records, I'm like, well,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: it's it's probably something I would want to check out
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: because of Easy and the track record and all of that.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: What do you think about this tone? Even though people don't,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: like we said, they don't really think about Ruthless Records.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: They start with death rowing. But I also think people
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: don't think about Easy as a visionary, right, like collecting
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: talent shout out to Frost also.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Or Cross.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I think he goes by Frost, but he was Kid
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Frost back in the days I can't remember. I think
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: you're right, but he was on Ruthless Records, right, representing
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: the latinos.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: A lot of people rules bro.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Right, But I don't think Easy gets enough props for
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: vision Like you said, Knowing J was dope, Knowing DC
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: was dope, dre You know, bone Thugs like Bone Thugs
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: was nothing ever seen in music, let alone hip hop.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: No, And they've told different stories about I want to say.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: At one point they kept calling up the Ruthless Records
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: talking to the secretary, and they finally got Easy. I
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: think it's on point, and they wrapped on the phone,
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: I believe to him, and then I think, I want
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: to say that Easy and his crew did like a
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: show of something like that in Cleveland or something like that,
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: and they they was able to make their way and
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: meet him backstage final or something like that. Man, there's
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: been some different stories about it. But man, just for
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: the fact that he was open enough to be like
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: he could, he could have been like, I ain't dealing
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: with these niggas from from Cleveland, you know what I'm saying.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Like all these dudes.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: Harmonizing and singing and rapping off fast, we don't do
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: that on the West Coast, you know what I'm saying. Easy,
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: to your point, had that vision of saying, Okay, let
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: me expare Ruthless Records, let me expare our sound and
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: our fan base. And these dudes right here from Cleveland, Man,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: they sound dope. You don't wrap like down here in LA.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: But somebody like that shit, you know what I'm saying.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: So for him to give them an opportunity, he changed
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: hip I forget because dougs are legendary now.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was like an ultimate code sign for
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: something that was so new for hip hop, right because
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Easy E being there for a lot of people was
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: co sign to just press play the hero to say, oh, well,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: if they're ruthless, maybe they're dope.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: And yeah, like you said, they changed the game.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Then you know what, go too, you said. But E's
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: vision man, just for him.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: To also be a part of Michel lay and I
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: remember them having the video before you turn out the
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: Lights and and and no More Lies and something in
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: My Heart video. There's something in My Heart video when
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: in that like jazz club and they all dressed up
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: Easy easing there with a suit on with Doctor Dre
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: and Autumn in there, and he's again to you to
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: your point, he's open to like, yo, we got this
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: R and B D but back in like eighty nine
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: and we're gonna put soup so on.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: We're gonna be the stars of the video too.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: And the little interest in the video and all that
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: you go back right now, but like this is in
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: this is NWA and you got these cats up in
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Michelle Laie's video with Soup song just chilling the same
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: dudes express yourself on f the police, right, So he was.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: A vision in the same way doctor d producing JJ fat.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean roster Yeah.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: And that was that's the dope part about it because
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy who isn't a record exec.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: He didn't go to school for business, you know what
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, But he had an heir for talent. He
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: knew what he was doing wasn't there was no end
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: to it or an end that he would want. So
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: he kind of poured all his resources into this label
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: which gathered all his talent because without you know, you
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: trust me. Like having worked in radio, especially hip hop radio,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: you see all different.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Shapes and sizes of indie labels, right, you.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: May get the one label where everybody's whack, but they
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: got this one dude that's dumb nice, you know what
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Or everybody's dope, but the guy who's running
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: it is an asshole. Like you can't get you can't
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: win with one way or another. But at the end
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: of the day, when you look at what Easy was
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: able to do, especially when Nwa at a point was
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: kind of banned from some raio stations, because of the police,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: and they still went platinum and they still were huge,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: and what they were doing, it's incredible to even think
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: about what what do.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: You think as far as as far as influence.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Let's start drawing some of those lines, because like you
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: said earlier, with Doctor Dre and all of that, how
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: do you think that translated to something like TD to
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: this day?
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Well, look, man, if the family tree.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: It is funny because I said some of the NBA
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: family tree on a tweet recently, and I just said, nothing, nothing,
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: There's not a family tree that's as big and vast
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: as the NBA family tree. And it's not you know
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, listed like fifteen different things. No other
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: group or label has that because because at the end
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: of the day, the children of that tree, the roots
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: of that tree are your m and ms in fifty
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: cents and TD to your point with Kindred right now
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: being the biggest.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Rapper in the world right right.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: So yeah, all of that comes from you know, when
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: Doctor Dre post signed Kendrick and help push them with
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: their collaboration with TV in aftermath.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Those are the.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: Children of what easy he created. So this is the
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: blood this is the bloodline This is the direct lineage
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: of Easy Ed, Jerry Ella and Ruthless Rucords. And I'm
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: glad we do this episode because we always talk about
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: bad Boy, we Loud Records, even Rackers, Rutcords for the underground,
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: underground here.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: But you know, a face when you think about Outcast and.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: All that you know, and all of these labels in
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: Dell throw labels and and once you got out there
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: and in Houston, man with Ghetto Balls rap a lot.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: But man, we're talking about Ruthless Rutgers is the blueprint
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: to almost all of these labels.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're talking about black indie labels.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Gas like young Black Talent from the neighborhoods hip hop
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: and R and B, which you can point it like
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: to your point, you can look at TD and say, oh,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: with all those rappers, it's also cisterm you know what
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. Same thing with bad Boy. You could point
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: to all them rappers. But then it's faith in one twelve.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: And it's like you said, in a lot of ways,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Ruthless Records and what they accomplished was a blueprint.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: Nobody was nobody on the West Coast before Ruthless Rugcords
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: you had people before them, like other little small indies
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: and maybe met people snyned the labels, but nobody did
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: what Easy he did on the West Coast before him
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: to that degree. You know what I'm saying, nobody And
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: the only people even before him period in hip hop
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: that had that kind of splash would be a depth Jam,
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, the early early depth general
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: with Russell and and and Rupert and all the you
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But outside of outside of Depth Jam,
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: you know, started earlier in the eighties, nobody did what
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: Ruthless did outside of outside of Depth Jam at that time,
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: and nobody.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Period, right, Because that's the thing, like even with Death Jam,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: that's probably a fair comparison, but Run D and C
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: wasn't there and it was on profile right right, So
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: like Easy he kind of he kind of created a
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: blueprint for the labels we mentioned because of the success
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: overall with so many different acts and definitely going platinum
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: like that, and it's just crazy. But as a person
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: like him, you know, like Russell was going to get
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: bank loans, Easy was on the street like I'm gonna
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: pay for this with that Yeah, that brick over there.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. What So, what do you think.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: It is as far as the disconnect, because I could
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: see some people, especially now with social media and YouTube
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: and everybody doing their own version of storytelling looking at
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: you know, Cube leaving but definitely uh doctor dre Leavin
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: with DC and sug Knight and going to death Row
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: and remember kids, easy said it dre day and nothing
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: but easy payday. If you know the record business, you
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: know exactly what he's saying. So things didn't happen the
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: way you think they happened if he was able to
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: eat off of those records, which I'm pretty sure bank
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: rolled a lot of what he was doing with like
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Bone Thugs and all of that eventually, But what do
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: you think tone like what happened to Ruthless Records, because
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: they even too up until like probably old nine, not
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: that being the end, but up until old nine, they
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: had the dude who was popular with the kids, Hopston.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he's the last kind of big artist from
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: Ruthless Records, Like two thousand and nine is Tennis, And
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: that was pretty much. I know they didn't officially close,
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: but that was pretty much the end of them having
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: any Viable MC's artists on the label. You know what
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, Houston, he's last, you know what I'm saying.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: So they not officially closed, but they closed, you know.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: What I mean? Right right like that man.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: But I think that you know what, it was so
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: early on and like you said, Easy's trying to find
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: his way. Did them with Jerry Heller learn the business
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: some stuff that some people might have thought was shaded
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: was probably him not knowing business own as far as
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: like being like a somewhat of a co record exect
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: with Jerry Heller. Uh, he probably was thinking to a degree,
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: I'm kind of doing the right thing, you know what
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. He probably didn't think he was doing something wrong,
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: but that you know again, you know all these guys
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: they signed the contracts. It started with you know, ice Cube, like, yo,
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: I'm not doing it. He dips out before it before
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: the second album was it started, you know? And then
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: at some point, yes, doctor Dre probably looking at it
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: like I should be making more money because I'm producing
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: all the Rutgers And somebody got in his ear where
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: it was Alanza from from from Uh.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: What's the name of the group.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, club.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: I can't remember, Yeah it was, but he had the
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: Worldwide Rerecing crew.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: They might have had a class, world class right.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: Well, Nevertheless, he could have talked to somebody like that, dude,
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: like you're making these beats and all this, how much
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: you getting paid? Oh man, they jerking your dog, you
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So then you know, I saw
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: old I watched some Beef DVD. It was a little
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: segment about the the drama n w A and uh
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: people can pull this little coop up on YouTube and
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: doctor it was like, yeah, man, it was funny with.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: The with the ends, you know what I'm saying.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: And I think that you know, he probably feel like
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: I'm being underpaid, you know, doing all this crap, and
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: you know he got out and started doing this thing.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: I just think that business can be ugly record companies.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: Man, when people young in the game and they make
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: some decisions that maybe they shouldn't have made it, then
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: you know, easy he might have been thinking, Okay, I'm
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: still giving y'all cats a cup, but I'm still.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Gonna make the most money because it's my label.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: Man, you know what I'm saying, Like, I still open
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: the door for everybody.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: So now it's not we not.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Split the power.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: He equal, you know what I'm saying, And I think
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: they was probably looking at it like but we all
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: kind of partners though as far as in regard to
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: making the music, and that was probably the artist of
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: fault not knowing the music business, you.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying. And so I'm sure all of
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: that happened.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: And then you know, but again, like you said, even
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: with Ce believing and Drake and Shug starting death Row
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: and then now the deals he goes with with Dray
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: and Shug and assistants starting to death Row and all
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: of this stuff, Easy was still able on his own
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: ones to a degree, releasing his music and then starting
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: to release all. You know, he released four mc rent,
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: I was ms Rent stayed with Easy, you know what
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, and he had above the law you had,
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: you know you had. Then of course, just a few
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: years later they dropped the bomb with bomb thugs, you
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So he still saw success for
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: a long time.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: And I think that a lot of this now.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: Is overlooked or quiet because unfortunately, man in around ninety
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: four is ninety five, Easy died, you know, what I'm saying.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: So when when that man passed away, his version, his history,
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: his perspective all passed with him. So all we got
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: old interviews with Easy Eve from the early nineties, but
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: a lot today ed if he's doing onto other ventures.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: Imagine him in the interview right now talking about this
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: is what I did for hip hop, and then him
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: laying out what exactly he did, his vision, how all
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: this came to be.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: He's the grandfather to all of this stuff. Man in
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: the West Coast after him.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you said that because when you when
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: you think about it as far as like the splits, right,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: you could see somebody who's basically investing all them there
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: stats in this business and it winds up becoming lucrative.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: So you feel like none of this would happen without
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: my money, you know what I'm saying, without me making
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: this connection and making these things happen and whatever else
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: he paid for.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, imagine if Boys and the Hood is never pressed and.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Never played right right, which set it off? You know
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying for for them?
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: Just yeah, not only does Ruthless deserve.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: Attention and flowers, he can't give enough credit and I'm
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: just talking about this his business stuff, man like, because
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: it's gonna be some puzzles and minuses when it come
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: to business.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: But just him as a person, he's not talked about enough.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: It's only because he passed away so long ago. Down
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: when you think about it, he was again when he
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: passed people.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: I think you're right because they're ruthless.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Was kind of having a resurgence at that time, you
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like they were pretty active and
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: hitting on all cylinders. And then you know, when your
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: leader's gone. You know, bone thugs were still successful after
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: the fact, but they just really couldn't sustain it without him,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: Unfortunately, Yeah, yeah, then you know ICEQ Man doctor Dreale
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: both said at some point before Easy really got sick
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: and Ice C he talked about this couple of years
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: Agoing on the interview, he said that that rumor about
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: him running the Easy at this club, and I'm sitting
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: down talking he said, that was true, you know what
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like he I scus talked about this before
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: over the years. He said, Yeah, we was in the
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: same event, the same place, he said, and Easily at
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: a table and somebody told him like, man, everyone want.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: To talk to you.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, And he went over that
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: set in front of him and they had a conversation.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, and it's cute. Kind of
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: came off like the conversation was. It was positive, and
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: the east was kind of like, man, I want to
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: get the gang, but together know what I'm saying, and
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: I want to say Doctor Dre was on board also,
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: so I think Drake talked about this before, and it
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: was good to hear. Dre addressed some of this on
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: Crying two thousand and one and he just said, man,
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: I miss you.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: I miss it. I'm just being real, you know what
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: I'm saying.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: So crazy to think about, because, like you said, Easy
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: died so young. Imagine if that was able to happen
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: right like after they fallout or whatever they had this
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: comeback album relatively early in that span of time, because
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: that wasn't you know, many years going in between them
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: being broke up and potentially having a comeback out.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: You know, everybody was still young, Like, yeah, they.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Could have had a comebacken in the May nineties ninety six.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Which would have been interesting and it probably would have
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: been crazy given where doctor Dre was with the production,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: what he might have planned for NWA Sound at that
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: point in time.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: He might have changed the game a full third time.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: He almost did with Crown two thousand and one. That
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: was some insane production. It was, man, let me explain
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: insane the way he had put together that production, you know.
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: And that's when he he gave mail Man It's all
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: the guys opportunity to work with him.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: He talked about that Scott Stores mail Man.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: He had a production team by that time, and he
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: opened doors for these guys mm hm.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: And real quick.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: There's an interview that Master P did about Easy looking
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: out for him early on, like taking him to I
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: think he took it to a certain radio station to
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: give him because he was going to do an interview
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: or whatever, to give him some exposure. I think Master
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: he was able to get up there and not only
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: talk about the music, but also either get it played or.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Or rap live.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: And he was like, after Easy gave me that, look,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: you know, I was off to the races and I'm
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: like Easy he is like this ghost and hip hop
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: that had hands on everything. But he doesn't get mentioned
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: even though he was that impactful on the game. It's
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: kind of crazy.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: It is crazy you think it quits from and it's
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: kind of it's interesting the way you just describe it
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: just now, because it is true.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Man, it's almost like, you know how like a like
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: a folk hero or.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Something like that, or like that's right.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of the word man, but it's it's.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: It's it's almost like being unsung. Even though we're talking
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: about Easy, he's like, man, But if it feels that way.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: It does, man, And it does.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: And you know, you're talking about somebody who was in
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: the early thirties when they died. He did all of
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: this in his twenties. I want to say, Easy he
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: might have been thirty two, thirty three when he died. Man,
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: he's very you know what I'm saying. But his impact
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: is still, like I said, if he doesn't decide. Hey, man,
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: we've been playing around with this music thing. I got
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: this dude Andre making these beats many dre dre. Let's
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: do something, man. I got some money over here being
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: the streets a little bit, you know what I'm saying,
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: Like you said, I got two three breaks over here.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: We're trying to get this record pressed up.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: But and just something small like that taking a record
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: getting with Jared Heller says, look, man, you know what,
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: and Jerry Heller like, I can distribute this, man, you
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And now in twenty twenty five,
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Easy and Jared Heller both
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: passed away. But what they did, the good, the bad
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: and the other. The reality is the influence, the impact
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: and what a lot of you guys seeing today with
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: West Coast and hip hop, a lot of that is
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: from these two guys.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's what's so important about shows like
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: this and other content creators and media, hip hop media
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: outlets that can't let these kinds of things get lost
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: in history, because, like you said, you get an anniversary
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: of the Chronic, you get an anniversary of Bone Thugs songs,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: and it's like it's so laser focused on the artists,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: and it's like, but Easy is like the the Emperor
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: ruling over it all. You know what I'm saying, It's
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: like the blueprint, like if Easy was here. Because I
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: like what you said about the interviews, and it's a
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: shame because we have these interviews from Easy back in
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: the day where he was real coy, real, like he
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: didn't want to say too much. He something depending on
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: who was interviewing. He was giving him like one liner,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: it's like yeah, because we're doing things like yeah too much.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: He wouldn't say nothing, you know what I'm saying, Like
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: I love.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: Man, I'm not gonna tell you something, man, like when
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: you hit me. We was talking about what was gonna
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: do when I thought about Ruthus Rutgers and like I said,
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: man shouting the crooked eye man, Like you know, we
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: had a conversation about you know, Brussel West Coast stuff recently,
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: you know the Dawn podcast too, And it was like, man, Easy,
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: I was such a fan vague because first of all,
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: he was funny.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: He was gaged to, but it was funny, you know
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like he's still.
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: Part of one of the hardest Dish records of all time
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: with their real mother and jeez.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Man, uh doctor dre Man like you know that.
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: Calm thumb you know what I'm saying, Like it's a
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: hard song and you know he visionary funny, you know
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: what's funny too, Even though he wasn't a rapper, and
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: Dre was like, man, I used to try to I
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: used to have to just keep coaching and in the
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: studio because he didn't want to rap.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: He he really wanted to be.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: Like I'm I'm in the back of the cut man,
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: y'all have this rap shit man. And and doctor Dre
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: was like, na, man, you can beat you.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: You got the rap man, you know what I'm saying, Like, you.
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: Got the whole it factor, you know, And he did, man,
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: and he had the funny voice, but it was distinctive.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: It was one easy on one person.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: Looked like him, talk like him, rap like him, dressed
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: like him.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: Easy eat was a one on one. And the funt
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: thing was that the girls like him too, you know
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And I heard it Easy was a
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: real one at the screen like you. It was a
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: little dude, but you weren't for the run up all
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: him acting crazy. And I heard I heard some West
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: Coast people from who are older talk from Comforten said
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: back the day, like nah, look easy was. You didn't
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: run up all him like that, you know what I'm saying,
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: Like for real, saw, I mean, he's a he was,
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: like I said, just now one of one personality and
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: hip hop culture. Man, that we can't let his spear
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: and energy go unnoiced. Man, as we always talk about.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: You know what, I'm saying that people who paved the
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: way for certain things in hip hop and you know
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: rock him help people change the flow. And g Ratnam
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: did this, or NAS did Real, DEMC did this. You
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: know these people did. Larry Smith did production, did this
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: for you know, Devi Jay, but easy he did all
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: these other things. Man for the West coast, and some
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: of it spiraled into the East coast because you had
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: fit this hit being from that tree and Eminem been
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: from Detroit. He's from that tree, doctor dre Right, you know.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: So man, it's just like.
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: It's it's really fascinating when you think about it. Fortunately
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: that this hasn't been I'm gonna tell you, I think
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: this is the good thing about that time in hip
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: bout bag because I'm gonna be honest with you, I've
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: never seen a content creator who does hip hop talk
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: really put this kind of time into Ruther's records. I've
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: never seen it. Now, somebody might say, well so and
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: so this platform. I'm just saying I haven't seen it,
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: and it will't pushed you a point where we would.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Even notice it, right, because everything is always after the fact,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: right it trends or somebody reminds you of something. Unfortunately.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: You know, It's kind of like I was telling Kill
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: a shout out to him a Partner five B podcast
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: when he was talking about you know, how are we
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: going to you know, preserve this when when people.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Are trying to change what hip.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Hop was about today, and I was like, it's true,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: people try to change the narrative, but certain things just
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: don't leave right.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Somebody will watch this.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Go on a rabbit hole of all this music because
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: maybe they've never heard it, or maybe they look at
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: it with a different perspective now that we talked about it,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: and now you have that message. You know what I'm saying,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: just keeps getting passed on and on. So to me,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: the real stories will always be there and real quick.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Like you were saying, what easy being a real one.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: I don't remember what video it was, but it's a
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: video where he was chasing somebody. He had an AK
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: forty seven in his hand and I was like, that
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: doesn't look fake because that Jerry Kerr was like flapping
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: under the wig he was running like super fast, and
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: I was like, yo, dude, restaurant at you with an AKA.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: He's going to use it on you. You know what I'm saying.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: It was fun? Its real quick on a little easy tangent.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: Jerry Heller said that, so you know, you saw the
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: movie straight out of comfort. Everyone saw the movie straight
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: out of Comforter and everything like that. Of course it's
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: based you know a lot of us, based on their
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: lives and stuff like that.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: But there's an.
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: Old video doing when that movie came out, you know,
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: the Internet Undefeated. So that that interview with Jerry Heller
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: started back getting on the algorithm, and Jerry Heller said
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: that one night he went to talk to Easy for
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: really easy House. Eas was in his backyard, the swim
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: pool was sitting there chilling, and he was like, I'm
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: about to kill shul Knight, like I'm gonna get He
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: said that I talked Eric out of making a decision
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: that were he said, look what we got, man, you
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: can't warn all of this, YadA YadA YadA. But but
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: he said that that part was true. He said Easy
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: he looked at him and said, I'm about to kill
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: this dude, man, mm, you know what I'm saying, Like
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: it's crazy to think about now, you know what I'm saying.
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: I remember a BG knockout on said the other guys said, yeah,
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: that little part of the movie that was not correct.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: He said he absolutely not did not get beat up
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: by Schulgaring.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: No, dudes, right, because look, this is where, like I
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: said earlier, this is where the Elijah has to.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: Come into mind.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: For people who want to go with what sounds more entertaining,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: I guess to them, right, nobody's gonna force you to
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: sign a contract that shows that you're gonna get money
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: from these artists.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: Like what why would.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: You have to be forced to sign that that forced
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: you to sign a contract where you sign these artists
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: over and you get zero?
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: So when Easy said again, dre ain't nothing but easy payday,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: Trust Easy.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: Absolutely that was that was entertainment.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: Factor.
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: You know that scene, All these people, all his people
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: have been on blad O outlets like yeah, nah.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: That ain't happen, right exactly?
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: Did you like? That was very clear?
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: Like I can promise you nobody put their hands on
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: air because we all would have been willing to do
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: whatever to make sure Easy was all right.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah again, that's another great point. You ain't here noting.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: So they took him in the room, beat him, made
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: him sign a contract, and nothing happened. There's no other
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: story of death row offices getting shot up or so.
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: You see the video real mok geez, and you see
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: all them dudes out there, ridal Easy. The video is
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: full of people. He was a legend at that time.
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: Like you said, Vader, you think you feel several people
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: for the.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Beat up Easy?
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: Y'all call him by himself, y'all beat them up, and
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: nothing that's ever happened after that, right, dude, who's from
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: the streets, who got other people in the streets like
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: Beag and all of them who loved.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Him, right, and who has put in work himself? Yeah,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: he in the studio gainst.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: So so no, but it was good. It was good.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: It was good for entertainment.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: We get it right.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: So if if y'all don't know, we did a whole
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: episode on Straight out of Compton and hip hop movies,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: so you can check that out right here on the channel. Also, uh,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: a lot of different tones or whatever, they're no pun
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: intended but definitely related to this episode. I'll link it
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: to the end of the episode so people can check
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: that out. What are like, three your favorite albums from
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Ruthless Records?
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: Okay, oh my god?
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: Three?
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: Just three?
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: So let me say this, So I'll start with the
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: DC debut No One can do It Better because that
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: album and I tweet about it pretty often, you know
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like, it's a fantastic album. What Doctor
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: Dre did on that production insane and the DC rhyme
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: and and everything was in that joint with Grand Finale, Man, Like,
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: oh my goodness, man, the.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: Title track, no one can do it better.
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: That is like the beat, the scratching signs of premo
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: stuff years before promo.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, go listen.
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: To the title track no one can do It Better
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: from the DC, and listen to what Doctor Dre did
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: on that song.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: Guys, So that.
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: Man straight out of Compton, man, because Strada Compton is
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: better niggas for life than me, because it's.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: Socially more wellware, you know what I'm saying.
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: Even with express Yourself from if the Police, it had
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: more layers, it.
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: Was gangst the conscious.
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying as opposed to niggas for
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: life being production wise flawless, but it was more wrong.
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: She I asked you was gone, you know what I'm saying,
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: So that political aspect was gone. So I would say
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: DLC album Strada Compton and miche.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: Laid no more lies.
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: I believe the title of the album great album, man.
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, I love that album because I love shot
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: in Anita baker and she gave me. She gives me
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: some Anita baker Field with the production and if I
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: can just slide the alible mentioned in Man Bone Throws
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: E nineteen ninety ninety Ternal Man like that fucking album
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: is insane.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: Man, you know what I'm saying. So I would go there, man,
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: what about you all?
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: For me two, I have the same DC for all
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: the reasons you mentioned. I mean, he was just something
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: special at that time. You know, he was exciting. We
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: all thought he was from the West Coast because of
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: the way he was dressed when he really wasn't. You know,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: it's from Texas. Pduction was dope, you know, just sort
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: of almost like ahead of his time kind of album
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: at that point in time. Also straight out of Compton.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: For all the reasons you mentioned is part of the
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: reason why I loved Ice Cube so much. He was
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: my favorite rapper for a very long time. But for that, right,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: you kind of got a little bit of the streets.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: You got some consciousness stuff like that and above the
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Law Uncle Sam's Curse.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, mats Man.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: I love the production.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: A lot of what we mentioned is there, right, this
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: album has you know, the gangster stuff is there, but
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: it's conscious, like it's hard. It's really one of them
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: conscious records. But I love, like tell said earlier, me
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: being from Brooklyn, New York and being from North Carolina,
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: I loved this era of West Coast hip hop, like
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: early nineties because I love funk and in a lot
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: of ways, a lot of the records that were sampled, and.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: Not just Ruthless, but just in general.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: They sampled a lot of funk records out there because
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: that was, like, you know, that was the big music
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: for them, pre dating hip hop, and it was used
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: a lot in hip hop, like the East Coast used
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: a lot of James Brown. But I always loved it,
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: and I loved this. I always loved reality rap right, Like,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, I say this all the time.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: I love groups like umc's and all of that. I
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: love all frightful wordplay stuff, but at some point I
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: was just tired of it because I just like people
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: to tell stories that I could relate to more.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: It's cool to have fun, But like you said, Michell
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: l AI's on this label, got bone thugs, you got
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: hard groups like NWA. You know what I'm saying, Just
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: a record label that needs to be recognized more. So
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: it doesn't stop with this episode, y'all. Okay, go out,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: listen to their music. Listen to the artist you never
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: heard of before, especially Michelle a Like. We'll be distracted
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: by her interviews and her voice because when she sings,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: she could sing.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:00:28
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• 1:00:31
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• 1:00:35
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• 1:01:02
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• 1:01:05
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• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: you don't see me laughing because I just kind of watch,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: but the fact that you have to put to me
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: in all caps so much that now you kind of
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: known for it, it's hilarious to me even when you
• 1:01:23
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• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: I laughed because I'm like, he has to do it.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: But it's funny that dudes who try to say stuff
• 1:01:31
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• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: It's funny because I mean, it's funny brought it up.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: It was just really me just saying, look, I'm saying
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: that Swang got de bait y'all niggas, you know what
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I started doing this a couple of
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: years ago. But now I see other platforms doing it too.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: I saw a few huge ones doing it. Who you know,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: people see you, right, people see if people see your
• 1:01:58
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• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: You know whatever, It's it's all good. But yeah, I'm
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: not doing it to be funny. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: That's how I'm really saying that. Guess how I really.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: Talk, right in real life? You just establishing this is
• 1:02:15
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• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: That's how It's amazing how you feel.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: But I just think it's I just think it's funny
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: because you know how with social media and things in general,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: like trending, I think it's dope that people are paying
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: attention to what you're saying so much that now they're
• 1:02:30
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• 1:02:31
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• 1:02:34
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