Latest / Crime Night / Doctor Convinced She Was Mary: The Psychological Warfare of Spiritual Intrusion and Sorcery
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Okay, picture this. It's late, really late, maybe three point am.
- 0:04Speaker 1: The house is absolutely silent, that kind of deep quiet
- 0:07Speaker 1: that only happens in the middle.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Of the night, and you're just starting to drift off,
- 0:10Speaker 2: finally getting some rest after a long day, you know,
- 0:12Speaker 2: that moment of.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Relief exactly, and then bam, your body just jerks violently.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Yeah, not like a little dream twitch. This is a
- 0:20Speaker 2: full body spasm. It snaps you awake instantly, heart pounding.
- 0:23Speaker 1: It feels wrong, like, less like a natural thing and
- 0:27Speaker 1: more like something's physically pushing you back from sleep.
- 0:29Speaker 2: And the terrifying part here is that it wasn't a
- 0:31Speaker 2: one off. This happened night after night, four months, every
- 0:36Speaker 2: single time she tried to sleep.
- 0:37Speaker 1: It was the very first signal, wasn't it the first
- 0:40Speaker 1: sign that some kind of invisible line had been crossed?
- 0:43Speaker 2: Precisely, we're diving deep today into a story of psychological intrusion.
- 0:48Speaker 2: It's really a true crime narrative. But the crime scene
- 0:51Speaker 2: is the mind. The weapon is well, something else entirely, and.
- 0:55Speaker 1: It's important to set the stage. The person this happened
- 0:58Speaker 1: to wasn't someone you might stereotype as susceptible.
- 1:02Speaker 2: Not at all. That's the paradox. Really, this wasn't about
- 1:04Speaker 2: lack of education or social standing. She was a doctor,
- 1:08Speaker 2: highly educated, a medical professional.
- 1:10Speaker 1: Right actually in the process of setting up her own clinic,
- 1:13Speaker 1: grounded in the rational world, you'd think.
- 1:15Speaker 2: And that's critical context. It highlights this universal vulnerability that
- 1:19Speaker 2: some sources link to certain spiritual practices. People explore things
- 1:24Speaker 2: like tarot, maybe energy work, specific meditations.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Practices that, according to this account, inadvertently opened a door.
- 1:32Speaker 2: Exactly, a door to something malicious.
- 1:34Speaker 1: So today our mission is to trace this chilling timeline
- 1:38Speaker 1: step by step. How does a successful doctor get pulled
- 1:42Speaker 1: into this terrifying alternate reality dominated by voices claiming divine power.
- 1:48Speaker 2: Well, the timeline seems to start back in October twenty
- 1:50Speaker 2: twenty one. That first month, it was just those physical
- 1:53Speaker 2: jerks when trying to sleep. Disturbing, yes, but maybe explainable.
- 1:57Speaker 1: You can try to rationalize it, maybe stress. But it
- 1:59Speaker 1: didn't stop there.
- 2:00Speaker 2: No, after the physical stuff came the emotional breakdown, just
- 2:03Speaker 2: this constant, heavy sadness, unexplained, melancholy, crying for no reason
- 2:08Speaker 2: she could pinpoint in.
- 2:09Speaker 1: The internal storm she couldn't control.
- 2:11Speaker 2: Then the sensory disruption started tonitis, that persistent high pitched
- 2:16Speaker 2: ringing in the ears, which.
- 2:17Speaker 1: Must have been incredibly anxiety inducing on its.
- 2:20Speaker 2: Own, absolutely, and then the anxiety kind of evolved. It
- 2:25Speaker 2: became a conversation.
- 2:26Speaker 1: The voices started, but not just any.
- 2:29Speaker 2: Voices, No, these were authoritative. The first one identified itself immediately,
- 2:34Speaker 2: Prophet Moses.
- 2:35Speaker 1: Wow, using the specific term sayidna musa.
- 2:38Speaker 2: Or exactly sayidna our master or our profit. It's a
- 2:41Speaker 2: title demanding deep respect in Islam, so right away it's
- 2:45Speaker 2: leveraging faith to establish control.
- 2:47Speaker 1: And the message itself.
- 2:48Speaker 2: Classic manipulation, really a promise of a better life, spiritual elevation,
- 2:52Speaker 2: but only if she obeyed, absolutely, without question.
- 2:55Speaker 1: And then they doubled down.
- 2:56Speaker 2: Almost immediately, a second voice appeared, the King of Moses.
- 3:01Speaker 2: So now it's not just one prophet, it's a whole
- 3:03Speaker 2: hierarchy reinforcing the demand. You can see how overwhelming that
- 3:06Speaker 2: would feel.
- 3:07Speaker 1: So she tries to explain this, the crying, the voices,
- 3:10Speaker 1: the lack of sleep to her family, her husband.
- 3:12Speaker 2: And their reaction was well understandable. From their perspective. They
- 3:16Speaker 2: saw someone in crisis, a mental breakdown, so.
- 3:20Speaker 1: They sought professional help.
- 3:21Speaker 2: Psychologists, yes, and The diagnosis, medically speaking, was clear severe
- 3:27Speaker 2: auditory hallucinations, which.
- 3:28Speaker 1: Makes sense based on the symptoms described to.
- 3:30Speaker 2: A doctor, but for her experiencing it the way the
- 3:34Speaker 2: voices operated their sophistication, they felt utterly real. And this
- 3:39Speaker 2: is where things really start to unravel.
- 3:41Speaker 1: The manipulation gets deeper, more insidious. They started using religion
- 3:46Speaker 1: itself as.
- 3:46Speaker 2: A tool, a scriptural invasion. The voices began quoting the
- 3:50Speaker 2: Core on specific verses, seemingly pulling them out of nowhere,
- 3:54Speaker 2: but always twisting them to fit their narrative, to fit
- 3:57Speaker 2: her life.
- 3:57Speaker 1: That's terrifying. Using the sacred text to legitimize the delusion.
- 4:01Speaker 1: How could a believer argue with that?
- 4:03Speaker 2: It's incredibly difficult, And they use that perceived legitimacy to
- 4:07Speaker 2: dismantle her actual identity, her life as a doctor, a mother.
- 4:11Speaker 2: It started to fade through.
- 4:12Speaker 1: This elaborate past life story exactly.
- 4:15Speaker 2: They convinced her this current life was just temporary, almost
- 4:18Speaker 2: an illusion. Her real self was ancient divine. She'd been
- 4:23Speaker 2: in Prophet Moses's wife. They said, she'd been Queen Nefertiti. Wow,
- 4:27Speaker 2: and maybe the most potent one psychologically, she'd been Mary
- 4:31Speaker 2: Sadin Mariam, mother of Jesus, basically telling her your everyday
- 4:35Speaker 2: struggles they don't matter, your holy royalty, and.
- 4:38Speaker 1: That led to that incredibly disturbing experience involving the Crucifixion.
- 4:42Speaker 2: Yes, they didn't just tell her she was Mary, they
- 4:44Speaker 2: plunged her into the Crucifixion narrative. From Mary's perspective, she
- 4:48Speaker 2: wasn't just reading a story.
- 4:49Speaker 1: She was feeling it, experiencing the agony of watching her
- 4:52Speaker 1: son suffer as if it were real happening right then.
- 4:55Speaker 2: She described crying for hours, completely detached from her actual children,
- 4:59Speaker 2: her actual life life just shattered by this relived trauma.
- 5:02Speaker 1: The psychological damage is hard even comprehend, and this led
- 5:05Speaker 1: to cognitive problems too.
- 5:07Speaker 2: Major ones. Time distortion was severe. She'd sleep for six
- 5:10Speaker 2: seven hours, but it felt like maybe thirty minutes. She
- 5:12Speaker 2: lost track of days, weeks. The outside world just slipped away.
- 5:16Speaker 1: And the forgetfulness forgetting her own children heartbreaking.
- 5:20Speaker 2: She started questioning if they were real, and her communication
- 5:24Speaker 2: broke down. Her native Arabic usually fluent, became halting, stuttering.
- 5:28Speaker 2: She could barely talk to her family.
- 5:30Speaker 1: Why what was happening? Internally?
- 5:31Speaker 2: Her mind was just full, overloaded He described it like
- 5:35Speaker 2: a radio stuck on one station, playing constantly, just chronic verses,
- 5:40Speaker 2: over and over, filling every cognitive space, no room for
- 5:43Speaker 2: present thought, for rational thinking.
- 5:45Speaker 1: It sounds like deliberate psychological warfare, exhaustion and submission.
- 5:49Speaker 2: That's exactly what it seems designed to achieve. And this
- 5:51Speaker 2: whole campaign built up to one final ultimate demand.
- 5:56Speaker 1: The voices still claiming that divine authority.
- 5:58Speaker 2: Declared her one of the chosen ones and the price
- 6:01Speaker 2: of being chosen her life.
- 6:03Speaker 1: They escalated from manipulation to an actual death prophecy.
- 6:07Speaker 2: Are required sacrifice.
- 6:08Speaker 1: And they gave it that shilling specificity, a date and time.
- 6:12Speaker 2: Yes, Monday, two point zero deer pm on February twenty second,
- 6:16Speaker 2: two twenty two. That kind of detail makes it feel inevitable,
- 6:19Speaker 2: you know. It focuses the mind entirely on compliance, takes
- 6:22Speaker 2: away hope.
- 6:23Speaker 1: And the instructions were just as specific, meticulous.
- 6:26Speaker 2: Write a will, give away everything you own, go to
- 6:29Speaker 2: your family and say goodbye forever.
- 6:32Speaker 1: But they offered a reward, a spiritual incentive.
- 6:35Speaker 2: Oh yes, a glorious journey. Her spirit would be cleansed,
- 6:40Speaker 2: taken to the Holy Kaba and Mecca and then ascend
- 6:43Speaker 2: to heaven, were Prophet Moses himself would be waiting for her.
- 6:46Speaker 1: It's the ultimate spiritual bride, built on everything they'd already established.
- 6:49Speaker 2: And during this time, the physical pressure cooker intensified severe insomnia.
- 6:55Speaker 2: The voices, sometimes claiming to be God directly got himself,
- 6:58Speaker 2: according to her account, yes, ordering her to get up,
- 7:02Speaker 2: memorize more Kuran, perform endless prayers, not just current ones,
- 7:06Speaker 2: but ancient prayers, making up for every prayer ever missed
- 7:09Speaker 2: in her life or maybe those past lives.
- 7:12Speaker 1: It's ensuring total burnout spiritual, physical mental exauction before the
- 7:15Speaker 1: deadline hits exactly.
- 7:17Speaker 2: By this point, the family realized this was something else.
- 7:20Speaker 2: The medical diagnosis of hallucinations wasn't helping, because the treatment
- 7:23Speaker 2: seemed to be obeying these escalating religious commands.
- 7:26Speaker 1: She was preparing to die. They needed a different approach.
- 7:29Speaker 2: And this is where you see that clash of interpretations.
- 7:32Speaker 2: They turned to religious scholars, including some from the prestigious
- 7:36Speaker 2: Azar University in Cairo, and their assessment unanimous. This wasn't
- 7:41Speaker 2: just mental illness. In their view, this was powerful sorcery.
- 7:44Speaker 2: The Arabic term is sir okay.
- 7:47Speaker 1: Let's pause there sir sorcery. That's a completely different framework
- 7:51Speaker 1: from auditory hallucinations. How did they reach that conclusion?
- 7:55Speaker 2: They looked at the method, the specific use of prophets, names,
- 7:58Speaker 2: the quoting a scripture. It felt like a deliberate external
- 8:02Speaker 2: attack designed to mislead a believer. Not random internal noise,
- 8:06Speaker 2: but targeted spiritual.
- 8:07Speaker 1: Warfare waged by what or who By.
- 8:09Speaker 2: Entity is often referred to as jin, which sometimes gets
- 8:13Speaker 2: translated as demons.
- 8:14Speaker 1: But it's more complex than that, Isn't it.
- 8:16Speaker 2: Much more complex? In this context, Jin are seen as intelligent,
- 8:19Speaker 2: unseen beings who can interact with our world and crucially
- 8:23Speaker 2: can use sir sorcery to influence or attack humans.
- 8:27Speaker 1: So the scholars saw sir as the weapon used to
- 8:29Speaker 1: exploit her faith and create this.
- 8:31Speaker 2: Delusion exactly, And that diagnosis was vital because it offered
- 8:35Speaker 2: a different path forward. It defined an external enemy and
- 8:39Speaker 2: suggested specific countermeasures rooted in spiritual tradition.
- 8:43Speaker 1: But recovery wasn't quick. This took a long.
- 8:45Speaker 2: Time, a very long time, one to one and a
- 8:48Speaker 2: half years of consistent, intensive spiritual counter effort.
- 8:52Speaker 1: What did that involve? Specifically?
- 8:54Speaker 2: It involves specific ritual practices using water mixed with citter
- 8:58Speaker 2: leaves that's from the low tree and roads water for
- 9:00Speaker 2: washing for purification sidles.
- 9:04Speaker 1: What's the significance there?
- 9:05Speaker 2: Traditionally, in various cultures, including Islamic tradition, sitter is used
- 9:09Speaker 2: for purification and protection against negative spiritual influences. It's like
- 9:13Speaker 2: drawing a line physically and spiritually against these intrusive entities.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Okay, But the main weapon was textual.
- 9:20Speaker 2: Absolutely intense constant recitation of the Koran and specifically listening
- 9:25Speaker 2: to Puda Albakara the cow twice a day every day.
- 9:27Speaker 1: Why that specific chapter.
- 9:29Speaker 2: Aldakara is the longest chapter in the Quran. It's widely
- 9:32Speaker 2: regarded as a powerful spiritual shield, particularly effective, according to Tutrition,
- 9:38Speaker 2: in driving out negative entities like chin. So it was
- 9:41Speaker 2: like fighting that internal radio, that constant stream of manipulated
- 9:45Speaker 2: verses with the authentic source reclaiming her mental space.
- 9:49Speaker 1: And did it work immediately?
- 9:50Speaker 2: Not instantly, No, But the sources say the voices did
- 9:53Speaker 2: decrease significantly after the second major intervention, the second session
- 9:57Speaker 2: of these focused treatments, but they didn't vanish complet lely ah.
- 10:01Speaker 1: So there's a lingering.
- 10:02Speaker 2: Effect, Yes, a shadow. She regained clarity that these voices,
- 10:06Speaker 2: these entities were real to her experience, but crucially that
- 10:10Speaker 2: they were evil and had to be actively ignored. She
- 10:13Speaker 2: had to constantly consciously fight to distinguish their suggestions from
- 10:16Speaker 2: her own thoughts.
- 10:17Speaker 1: So to others she might still seem fragile, unstable.
- 10:21Speaker 2: Possibly, but internally she knew the battle. She'd drawn that line.
- 10:25Speaker 2: These are not divine messengers, these are enemies. I need
- 10:28Speaker 2: to resist. It required constant mental vigilance.
- 10:31Speaker 1: Looking back at this whole harrowing journey, what does it
- 10:34Speaker 1: tell us about how these spiritual traps are constructed? What's
- 10:37Speaker 1: the core danger?
- 10:38Speaker 2: The core danger really is the entry point these entities.
- 10:42Speaker 2: If we accept that framework are intelligent, they don't show
- 10:46Speaker 2: up with horns and a pitchfork.
- 10:47Speaker 1: They disguise themselves using the highest possible authorities, prophets, God,
- 10:52Speaker 1: holy scripture.
- 10:53Speaker 2: Exactly to gain immediate trust and submission, especially from someone
- 10:58Speaker 2: devout turn your own faith you're a desire for spiritual
- 11:02Speaker 2: connection against you. It makes the delusion incredibly hard to
- 11:06Speaker 2: break from the inside.
- 11:07Speaker 1: So for you listening, the key takeaway here isn't just
- 11:10Speaker 1: the horror of it, but the mechanism of recovery right.
- 11:14Speaker 2: It wasn't just the rituals or their recitation, though those
- 11:16Speaker 2: were crucial. It was a fundamental mental shift.
- 11:19Speaker 1: She had to do what.
- 11:20Speaker 2: She had to consciously relabel the voices to stop thinking
- 11:23Speaker 2: this is prophet Moses and start thinking this is a
- 11:26Speaker 2: gin trying to deceive me. Even when it was quoting scripture.
- 11:29Speaker 2: She had to actively dismiss it as malicious.
- 11:32Speaker 1: And constantly distract herself, keep her mind occupied.
- 11:35Speaker 2: Yes, focusing on external reality, on positive or neutral thoughts,
- 11:41Speaker 2: anything to stop those intrusive suggestions from finding fertile ground.
- 11:45Speaker 2: It was an ongoing intellectual and spiritual fight as much
- 11:48Speaker 2: as anything else.
- 11:49Speaker 1: This case and others reportedly like it, really stands as
- 11:53Speaker 1: a stark warning, doesn't it? About dabbling in practices maybe
- 11:56Speaker 1: energy healing, certain types of spiritual seeking taro without a
- 12:00Speaker 1: strong grounding or understanding of potential risks.
- 12:03Speaker 2: The allure can be strong, the initial experiences maybe even positive,
- 12:07Speaker 2: but the potential consequences, as this account suggests, are unknown
- 12:11Speaker 2: and can be devastating.
- 12:13Speaker 1: There's a phrase often used by those who deal with
- 12:15Speaker 1: these cases, a kind of final warning.
- 12:17Speaker 2: Yes, this is the beginning, and the end is known
- 12:19Speaker 2: only to God, it really urges caution. It suggests prioritizing established,
- 12:24Speaker 2: grounded knowledge and spiritual paths over potentially opening doors you
- 12:28Speaker 2: might not know how to close.
- 12:29Speaker 1: A sobering thought indeed, prioritizing solid ground over uncharted territory,
- 12:34Speaker 1: especially when the stakes are your own mind,