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#3 - Oh Dear! · All Balls, No Filter Podcast

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  And we're live. Welcome to the All Balls No
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  Philtre podcast. Live from the cabin kitchen.
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  I'm Zach. He's Brad.
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  Hello there. And behind the scenes, we have a
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  man that was once nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize, but he
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  couldn't attend the awards to make it past his bedtime.
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  He's researcher. Carl.
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  Yes, researcher Carl. I will do mate, all right.
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  Yeah, yeah, I'm good, I'm good. It's been a couple of weeks
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  since we've been together so it's going to be nice to catch
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  up and talk some ball. That's it, ma'am.
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  That's it. I'm looking forward to it.
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  What we're going to start today. Well, today, as it's become
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  regular now, we'll look at the news headlines for this week.
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  We've got our selected games for Balls of the week and a roundup
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  of the remaining Wild Card round games.
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  We're going to hit the latest news that's happened over the
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  last few weeks or so while we've been out of action over the
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  holidays, before looking ahead at the Divisional Round.
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  And of course, let's not forget all other balls for the other
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  major stories in the world of sport.
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  So let's get straight into it, shall we, with the news.
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  Looking forward to making a packed episode by the sounds of
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  it. Right, getting into the news,
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  the coaching carousel that's going on.
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  This is dominating the world of football right now.
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  Who's going where, who's who's been sacked, who's getting
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  interviews, right? Let's have a look 1st through
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  the firings so far for this year, right, because there's
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  been I don't know if it's because like we're covering it,
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  quote unquote, like as in we look, I'm looking into it a bit
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  more, but it just seems to be a lot of people have been binned
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  off this year. Like I know there's a lot of
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  turn around normally, but it just seems to have been a lot of
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  right out out the door. What do you reckon?
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  Yeah. I mean, you know, I think it's
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  nice to throw a positive note on other podcasts that we enjoy.
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  And I'm a big fan of Heed the Call.
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  And they say every year that there is always 6 to 8 coach
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  firings, no less, no more. And I think by the time Black
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  Monday was sort of like part way through, we had 6 and then we
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  got another one and another one. And we've got 8 available
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  opportunities here for a coach to go in to a team, try and make
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  their mark. But equally, we've got 8
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  coaches, many of which could potentially pick up head
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  coaching jobs elsewhere. I agree.
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  I agree. And there's some big names on on
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  the list. So we're just going through the
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  list right quickly. Giants, Brian de Ball.
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  De ball. De Ball De ball.
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  Yeah. Brian de ball out of the window.
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  Are you surprised yes or no, realistically?
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  No, I mean the writing was on the wall, wasn't it?
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  Obviously you went mid season, so that's been a sort of a dated
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  one, but I think it was probably lucky to be here this season
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  anyway. I think it was kind of a give
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  him another shot with a a new QB and it just didn't work, did it?
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  There was so much buzz around the Giants at the beginning of
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  the season. People forgot that they only had
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  like two wins. I think it was when Dabo was
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  fired and because of the buzz around the QB, the running back,
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  this dynamic duo, and they kind of gave Dabo a bit of a, an
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  extended leash if you like, but the results just weren't there.
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  And they've not been there really.
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  After his time in New York. He had one big season with Danny
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  Dimes and that kind of, well, we know how that ended, didn't we?
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  But no, not surprised at all. Now same same there were that's
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  been due at the start of the year, but other than that they
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  should have them all with what they had.
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  Moving on then to the Titans have lost Brian Callahan again.
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  For me, I'm not surprised at all.
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  I think a lot of the Titans fans will be like seething with the
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  backroom office about how well Raybould is doing elsewhere and
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  they bend him off after not doing terrible, but doing
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  terrible for what he was there as such.
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  Yeah, it's not not not great. Especially having that number
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  one pick like, you know, Cam Ward in in the backfield for
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  them and there's a QB not there to do much with him.
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  Probably a blessing in disguise for the Titans kind of
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  organisation now starting fresh with that generational as what
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  is what is supposed to be QB in that backfield.
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  I feel like they say that term every year with the new QB don't
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  they? Generational talent never been
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  seen before. We had that with Trev, didn't
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  we? And you know, he's had a great
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  year this year, but it's not always the case, is it, when
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  they first come in. But he has shown flashers.
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  He's, you know, Camwod's definitely shown flashers, but
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  there wasn't enough there to save Callaghan's job.
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  I mean, if you look at this list generally, I think there's a few
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  there that are no surprise. You've got Raheem Morris
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  departing from the Falcons, you've got Pete Carroll from the
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  Raiders, you've got Jonathan Gannon from Cardinals.
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  I think all of those teams that we've spoken about so far, kind
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  of obvious like to be expected, but there's definitely two names
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  in there. I'm saying 3 because Mike
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  McDaniel there's so much mixed reporting on, like he wasn't
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  fired on Black Monday as they call it, but the Stefanski and
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  the Harbour are kind of the two names.
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  Harbour especially was a surprise and I think we'll
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  probably dig a bit deeper into that.
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  But Stefanski's been given a good amount of time and he's had
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  opportunities where he's actually done really well with
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  what he's got. I mean, he was handcuffed to
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  Deshawn, wasn't he? And he's made it work with so
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  many Q BS. I don't have the exact stats, I
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  mean research Carmite beyond this trying to look at it, but I
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  think Browns have had a insane number of quarterbacks start in
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  different games for them during Stefanski's time.
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  I can't remember the exact figure, but I know it's
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  significant and he's a lot of times made it work.
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  I mean, look what he did with Flacco.
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  He's had those moments. Shudo wasn't terrible, you know.
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  Well, he had moments both ways, I think, but he's a little bit
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  of a surprise. But I think the big, big name of
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  them all there obviously from the Ravens, is Harbour, isn't
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  it? Yeah, I mean, what were
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  seventeen seasons They were there 17 years.
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  It was there. It's a big name.
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  It's a household name. Is is known the word what the
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  word him and Tomlin there for the for the durations of the big
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  the big guys. I was very surprised.
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  No, I wasn't surprised, but I was shocked at the same time.
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  Like I was. You could kind of see it coming
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  after the past, you know, this year in particular.
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  But it did kind of be like, oh, like it's going to seem weird
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  seeing somebody else on that sideline of the Ravens.
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  Like as a Ravens, if I was a Ravens fan, how would you feel?
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  Because the buzz now around the coaching pool, There was a buzz
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  before Stefanski was like a target for a lot of people.
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  Like I saw in the news, like a lot of people were getting him
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  in for for an interview. Like we want this guy on our
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  team and then all of a sudden Harbour gets binned off and it's
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  right, everybody wants him. I think Adam Schefter tweeted
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  out that there was there was there was teams that are that
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  are currently had head coaches that were reaching out to
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  potentially get an interview, which as a Ravens fan, I'm like,
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  Oh my God, please don't be Titans 2.0.
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  Please don't be Titans 2.0 with the whole Ray Ball thing, like
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  what's going to happen here? But again, look at look at Baker
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  Mayfield with and some Donald, for instance, right?
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  They didn't fit their fit. They didn't fit that
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  organisation. And sometimes you kind of
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  outgrow it. You drift apart.
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  It goes a different way. Maybe it's a blessing disguise
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  for all, all of teams around it. All, all, all areas, should I
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  say. But yeah, I.
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  Think it's, it's a weird one with Tarbot because if you look
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  at the those that list of big names, he's going to be or
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  should probably be the first domino to fall.
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  So he's going to set that. So I've not set the market as
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  such, but in terms of like last year, it was Ben Johnson, wasn't
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  it? He was the the hot name.
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  And it's a different kind of group here.
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  We've got looking at jobs and and looking to be that next head
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  coach of whatever team. It's a different sort of cohort.
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  But he's the name, isn't he? That's going to make all those
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  dominoes fall afterwards or as far as I'm concerned, that's the
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  way it looks. But on the flip side of that,
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  and this is where I think it's so crazy, as you look at that
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  list of teams as well, and if you were a prospective head
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  coach and you're in demand, what's the team you'd want to go
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  to? You've got Giants is the big
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  Tiffany franchise, isn't it? Of the NFL?
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  It's the one that they all, you know, look to.
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  It's in that top tier of established historic NFL clubs.
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  You've got the Titans with Cam Ward.
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  That's exciting. It's new.
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  Could you replicate what Ben Johnson's done in Chicago?
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  That's probably what people are going to be looking at.
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  The Browns and the Raiders right now I would avoid like the
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  plague. And but then the Ravens have got
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  Lamar Jackson. So you've got the Ravens, who on
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  paper, in my opinion, look like probably one of those top teams
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  that you'd want to go to who's not going to want to go and
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  coach Lamar Jackson. What is it, a two time MVP?
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  And then you've got Harbaugh on the flip side of that, who's won
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  a Super Bowl. He's well respected.
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  He's proven what he kind of needs to prove.
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  Although it's probably disappointing he didn't get over
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  the hump with Lamar. He's the guy to do it really,
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  isn't he? But it's, yeah, it's going to be
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  interesting to see how it all pans out.
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  On the counter of the of the Raven side of things, as much as
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  I agree, two years ago, if this had been available two years
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  ago. Has Lamar been Lamar this year?
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  No. Has Lamar been riddled with
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  little injuries throughout the year?
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  Yes. Is this mobile agile QB that's
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  run X amount of yards over the past X amount of seasons?
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  Is it catching up on him? Is it funny style?
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  Yeah, correct. But this year he just see he's
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  he seems to have every other week he's missing training, he's
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  missing training, he's missing training through something.
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  And as much as I, I by the way, I fully agree with you.
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  If I'm a head coach in here, the raid, there's two teams for me
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  that I'm stepping up for here and it's the Ravens and the
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  Dolphins. It really is.
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  And just I I I just. I'm the Dolphins fan and and I'm
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  avoiding them like the plague. I.
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  See, I don't know 2's. Contract 2's contract is insane.
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  The caps situation is insane. There's a new GM, so that's
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  that's there, that's in place. But on the flip side, you ride
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  it out for a year. If you're not happy with Tua,
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  you can ship him on really. And it's much more financially,
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  like financially sensible. Your cap situation's a lot
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  better in a year, maybe actually it's a good one because you've
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  kind of got that one year risk free Hail Mary shot before then
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  maybe going out with the GM, getting your new QB, full
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  restart, and you've kind of got then the usual two or three
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  years that people get maybe. So maybe you're in for a shout
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  there, but I'm not convinced with the Dolphins situation next
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  year. Ice As a Dolphins fan, are you
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  surprised that that that Mcdaniel's gone?
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  No, but at the same time, he's struggled in areas and he's
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  struggled to evolve. I think he made some bold
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  decisions this year, which if you look at the back end of the
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  Dolphin season, we actually, you know, things did get a lot
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  better. And I'm not necessarily saying
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  that's because 2 wasn't on the field.
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  I think it was just the game planning, the approach to the
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  games, all those sort of things were different.
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  So to say he's not evolved is probably not fair.
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  But then on the flip side, I don't think he's evolved enough
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  and developed enough and quick enough.
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  Fair enough. Like I I think he's the perfect
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  role for like an OC. Not a head coach just yet, but
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  we'll see how we're getting. So let's quickly run through the
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  interviews that are happening now the the confirmed
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  interviews, right? So at the moment, the Falcons
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  have interviewed John Harbour, Kevin Stefanski and they've
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  they've interviewed a few other people as well, such as Vance
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  Joseph, Robert Seller and Jeff Halsey.
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  That halfway. Sorry, my bad pronunciation
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  there is about it. Yeah.
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  The Ravens then moved on to them.
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  They've interviewed Keith Kingsby for the head coaching
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  job there with a few of the ones expected but not reported as of
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  yet. The Raiders have interviewed
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  Jesse Minter to he's. Confirmed he's been interviewed.
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  I don't think he's actually interviewed just yet.
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  Oh, OK, So perfect, happy days. And then there's there's a few
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  other names going across. I know Mcdaniel's been
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  interviewed at Cleveland, which I think would be a very risky
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  buy if I were Cleveland, but there's a few other ones across
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  there. Now.
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  I agree with you. I think there is no head
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  coaching jobs filled until Harbaugh's gone.
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  I think everyone see where he goes and then boom go from
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  there. Yeah, I think you're right.
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  He's the domino, isn't he? And I think on the McDaniel
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  thing, I think it's, it's an interesting one because the
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  Browns is just going to be in another worse or a similar
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  situation to what Miami would be next year anyway.
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  I think they've got a really weird situation.
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  They've got, I guess the QB situation's a little bit
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  different, but there's no clear direction there.
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  But I think he has probably got a, in my opinion, would be
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  better to regroup and kind of do what Cliff Kingsbury did.
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  He went away, he built back his credit.
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  And Brian Flores for that matter, just on the other side
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  of the ball, you know, went away, got that respect back as a
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  well as an OC or ADC in the case of Brian Flores.
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  And now is again pushing for head coaching jobs.
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  Flores has another name that keeps coming up now and then,
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  but he's got the whole weird situation with the NFL and the
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  lawsuit and things like that, which people say might keep him
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  away from a job. But there's a lot of potential
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  candidates. I don't think the names are as
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  big and buzzy as last year, but there's potential there.
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  Mccaffrey's been linked to Giants as well, and Mike
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  McCaffrey, he's also been linked to the Giants somewhere along
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  the lines as well. But yeah, so there's quite a few
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  names floating around. There's quite a few jobs to be
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  to be had and like you say there's a few.
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  So after places having them, not just the pics but having the
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  young cubies as well. So right, happy to move on to
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  our balls of the week for this week mate.
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  Yeah, let's do it. Let's get to the balls of the
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  week. Sweet.
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  Let's go. All righty then, balls of the
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  week #1 is the Green Bay Packers versus the Chicago Bears.
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  The Green Bay Packers 27, Chicago Bears 31.
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  Now what a game this was. OK, the Bears didn't come out
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  exactly firing two and six on 4th.
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  I mean, 4th attempts everyday is great to have grin it, but they
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  tried four in the first half and succeeded once.
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  OK, BJ Ben Johnson. His mind works in what I'd love
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  to sit and just have a look at what his mind is doing.
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  His mind works in absolutely magical ways.
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  They were down. I've got my notes down here.
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  They were down. Oh, I've got Oh dear, they were
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  down. Oh my God, I want to write.
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  Jeez Louise. Down a big Scar 21. 21/3 21
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  three they were down at half time.
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  I could not find my notes to save my life.
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  Down 21, down 21, three at half time and then came back through
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  to outscore them by 25 points in the in the I'm just in.
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  The fourth quarter and overtime, 25 points.
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  It's it's a big way, a big dramatic way to turn over a
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  rival, isn't it? Like that's a crazy turn of
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  events and it's it's got to be down to a combination of Caleb
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  and Ben. Like Ben Johnson's absolutely
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  nuts, isn't he? Like he is chaos in a Canon.
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  I think he's been kind of like hidden under the limelight when
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  he was at the Lions or he was hidden in the shadows more so if
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  you like when he was at the Lions.
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  And now he's got that front and centre attention, if you like,
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  as the head coach of the Bears and taking Caleb Williams, doing
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  what he's done with that team to to make that turn around in a
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  playoff game over a division rival, it's just huge A. 100%
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  through 3 As we look at the stats here through three of the
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  quarters, Caleb Williams got 177 yards with two interceptions.
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  Fourth quarter alone, 184 yards, 2 TDs, 22 point conversions.
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  Right. This guy is, he's excelling so
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  much now. If you look at how the how he
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  was last year and how he's grown and things like that, he's just
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  progressing so well. And when BJ got the, the job
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  there, a lot of people were saying, you know, Caleb and,
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  and, and Ben Johnson's personalities will clash.
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  You know, Ben Johnson's quite a regimented person where Caleb's
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  quite out there. And they're just, they'll, and
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  all of a sudden they're now growing and they've, they've
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  formed this partnership. And I, I believe there were a
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  video circulating in, in the changing rooms afterwards of
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  Caleb like giving Ben Johnson the game ball be like, this
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  guy's changed my life. And now 20 years, they've got
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  that far. If he stays fit 20 years, they
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  can have that far. This guy looks phenomenal and we
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  can't, we can't talk about Caleb and Ben Johnson's offence
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  without talking about that throw, The throw where Caleb is
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  on the move. He then throws what would
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  technically be crossbody whilst jumping and having a Green Bay
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  defender holding onto his ankle at the same time.
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  And yet the pass is the strength this guy has.
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  Is unbelievable to be making them type of throws now if we're
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  a Green Bay fan, I'm looking here like OK, Ben Johnson openly
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  has stated that the Ben Johnson kind of advises the Green Bay
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  Chicago feud is not ideal anyway.
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  That the the rivals losing after having such a big lead is not
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  ideal. As a Green Bay fan, I'm thinking
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  now what what's next for us because we shouldn't be giving
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  this much again today. I play the divisional rival 3 *
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  a year. It was tough anyway, but to lose
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  that I have to have in that lead is a bit of a statement.
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  And to make matters worse, which I I love this, I'm not going to
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  lie to make Mars worse. Ben Johnson afterwards in the in
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  the changing room is like I I hate the Green Bay parkers.
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  I'm so and like to publicly go out there and say that and the
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  Chicago are publicising this. I'm all for that.
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  Let's go a bit a bit of smart talk and it's good touching on
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  some of the Green Bay stuff though, like Jordan Love throws
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  323 yards. That's not that's not some
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  that's not a bad doing by AQB during 323 yards, 4 touchdowns
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  and no picks still losing the game.
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  What you want to be looking at is special teams.
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  Now me, you and Research Carl are all part of British American
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  football. We all mean you, Coach Carl's
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  part of the team and we've always stayed there for years
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  and years. Special teams will win you
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  games. OK.
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  They can break our breaking games.
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  Brandon McManus missing 2 field goals and one extra point is
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  ludicrous. And that's lost in the game that
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  they've won that game there. Yeah, albeit the green may cut
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  at Sach. Caleb, happy days.
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  But them that special team play goes through and them quick to
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  go through, Green Bay have won. Yeah, I mean, it's it is one of
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  those things, isn't it? Special teams can win or lose
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  you a game. Absolutely.
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  It's just so interesting that what you mentioned about Ben
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  Johnson going I hate Green Bay, blah, blah, blah.
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  I, I can't remember where I, I heard it just today or
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  yesterday, probably just on Twitter or X, but it, it was a
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  throwback to one of Ben Johnson's sort of early
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  interviews when he got the job in Chicago.
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  And I think he like openly said something along.
• 22:35
  I'm, I'm not exact quoting here, but basically I can't wait to
• 22:39
  beat Green Bay. I can't wait to beat Matt
• 22:42
  Lafleur twice a year. And that's what he's done.
• 22:46
  So I think that, am I right in thinking they had a share of the
• 22:48
  spoils in the divisional games? I think it was 1 all, wasn't it?
• 22:51
  I believe. And then obviously this one
• 22:54
  settled the score. And it's just interesting.
• 22:57
  Is this is it just one of those seasons, you know, and Bears
• 23:01
  have had a great season, you know, credit where credit's due?
• 23:05
  Or is it a turning point in the rivalry?
• 23:07
  You know, think back to the years when a rod was at Green
• 23:10
  Bay and he's at Chicago. Like, I own you, I own you or
• 23:16
  whatever it was he said. And it's it'd be so interesting
• 23:19
  to see how this goes over the next two years.
• 23:21
  Did you see the the after the interview after where they've
• 23:26
  all got the cheese graters on the head and he's there
• 23:29
  literally grating cheese on live TV and they're just like they're
• 23:33
  all laughing about. It's brilliant.
• 23:34
  It's so much like smack talk and it's just brilliant.
• 23:37
  That's what you want to see out of a rivalry, isn't it?
• 23:40
  I'm I'm all for that. I'd really and that I think
• 23:43
  there's too much of this like, you know, yeah, you know what
• 23:48
  good to see really good friends. No on that field.
• 23:52
  Like you have rivals for a reason yet afterwards you can go
• 23:57
  do what you want to do. But when you're you what you
• 23:59
  have them rivals for reason and that.
• 24:00
  And like this this brings this brings back like an old school
• 24:04
  soccer. Sorry for the UK fans here.
• 24:07
  An old school like 90s soccer, Man United, Leeds United
• 24:11
  rivalry, like that's what you want to bring back.
• 24:13
  The old school kind of you play in your divisional rival, but
• 24:17
  you're playing, you're playing the ones that you don't like,
• 24:19
  the ones that you really, really don't like.
• 24:21
  You're going to go in a bit harder.
• 24:22
  You're going to get levelled. You're going to, you know, it's
• 24:24
  going to hurt. But I'm all, I'm all fight.
• 24:27
  That cheese grater incident with the with the with the heart is
• 24:32
  it's my, it's my kind of shout is that I love that type of
• 24:34
  stuff. I love that type of stuff.
• 24:36
  But yeah, anything else on the Green Bay and Chicago game
• 24:39
  before we move on to our pause of the week #2?
• 24:42
  No, I think it's, you know, it was a, it's a real exciting game
• 24:45
  and I think the facts of that division rivalry just sort of
• 24:49
  added that extra heat. But it was definitely one of
• 24:53
  those, one of those games and we were kind of lucky this weekend
• 24:57
  on the whole, especially for the first part of the weekend.
• 24:59
  It's one of those games that you don't traditionally get in the
• 25:01
  wild card rounds, the wild card rounds quite often full of duds,
• 25:04
  isn't it? 7th seeds just getting shot from
• 25:08
  day one, you know, out of the door.
• 25:10
  But we didn't start with that this weekend.
• 25:13
  So I think all first three, maybe four games, we're all
• 25:16
  close for an exciting games and this obviously was one of those
• 25:21
  early ones. So it's just a nice, exciting
• 25:23
  way to start the weekend, I think.
• 25:25
  I agree. I agree.
• 25:26
  I think the the entire lot so far just this weekend has been
• 25:31
  fantastic. I want to say there was there
• 25:34
  was a start knocking out somewhere that there was the
• 25:36
  most amount of fourth quarter turnarounds or comebacks and
• 25:39
  things are like the points guard something on the line if I
• 25:41
  should, I should have researched that more to be fair, but I had
• 25:44
  a. Start about that and it was
• 25:46
  something I think the first three games, forgive me if I get
• 25:49
  this wrong, I'm sure the first three games of the wild card
• 25:52
  weekend are three out of the 1st 4.
• 25:55
  The team that was winning at the 2 minute warning were the team
• 25:59
  that lost, which is crazy to think about in playoff football.
• 26:06
  It's, it's, it's mad you did these, disposed of the best
• 26:09
  teams ever and it just shows that you are.
• 26:10
  Yeah. Regardless of the scoreline,
• 26:13
  it's not over until it's over. OK, let's move on to our balls.
• 26:16
  The week #2 your game is Brad, even though you've saved my ass
• 26:20
  in that last one. So let's go.
• 26:24
  Yeah, Buffalo Bills 27, beating the Jacksonville Jaguars right
• 26:29
  at the end there with a score of 24.
• 26:33
  A real thriller, a weird game, a weird game.
• 26:36
  I think the first, it's one of those games of two halves, but I
• 26:41
  think this was the game that I think if you look at the odds
• 26:47
  and things before this game, you were getting a real mixed bag.
• 26:50
  I think I looked at at one bookmaker who had Bills as
• 26:54
  favourites. The other one had Jags as 3
• 26:56
  point favourites. It was so close and so back and
• 26:58
  forth and you've got 2, I think 2 narratives here, or not maybe
• 27:02
  2 narratives, but two things at play.
• 27:04
  Obviously Jags had the home field advantage, winning their
• 27:06
  division. Obviously Bills came second in
• 27:09
  the East, so Jags had the home field advantage.
• 27:13
  It's Florida, not quite at the height of the season, but you
• 27:16
  know, it's Florida regardless. You got the humidity there.
• 27:19
  It looks like a beautiful day at times.
• 27:22
  But the real narrative there that you had before this game
• 27:26
  was Buffalo's last playoff win was in 1992 on the road, which
• 27:34
  is crazy, really, when you think about how good the Bills have
• 27:40
  been in periods, especially over the last 567 years.
• 27:45
  They've really stepped it up. But I think what they have had
• 27:49
  is a lot of the time they've had home field games, and then when
• 27:53
  they've gone on the road, whether it be KC or the Bengals,
• 27:57
  they fell short. So this one was a weird game
• 28:00
  because Jags had to prove a point.
• 28:03
  They ended the season really, really strong.
• 28:05
  And I probably didn't give them the credit they deserved when we
• 28:07
  first started this podcast in December time.
• 28:11
  And a friend of mine has given me a lot of stick for that as
• 28:15
  well. One of our good friends are Jags
• 28:17
  fans. He's given me a lot of stick
• 28:18
  about that. So this is his shout out.
• 28:20
  This is his apology that he's been asking for.
• 28:23
  But this, this game was one of those games where they really
• 28:28
  could have done it. They really could have beat
• 28:30
  them. And I was literally on the end
• 28:33
  of my seat watching this. I know a few of our friends,
• 28:36
  they all got together at the local pub and they were watching
• 28:39
  it together. Unfortunately, I was just at
• 28:41
  home watching that. But I I felt the the tension and
• 28:45
  the atmosphere and I could just see our friends who are Jags
• 28:48
  fans. Like I could almost visually see
• 28:51
  their nerves. And I wasn't even there.
• 28:54
  But Josh Allen did Josh Allen things, didn't he?
• 28:57
  Like it infuriates me because he's in the east with the Fins,
• 29:02
  but he fought off injuries. He that tush push.
• 29:07
  Sorry, I'm going on a crazy tangent here, but the the tush
• 29:11
  push, which is ironic because Sean McDermott wanted to ban it,
• 29:14
  but the tush push to get the first down and they ended up
• 29:20
  1011 yards, nearly scoring A touchdown.
• 29:22
  I think it was given potentially as a touchdown originally or it
• 29:25
  looks like a touchdown, but they were one yard shot.
• 29:27
  I mean, that's just, that's the, the metal that Bills have got
• 29:32
  and. Literally picked him up from.
• 29:34
  Josh Allen. Literally picked him up, drove
• 29:37
  him forward, put him down. Like just going on to Josh Allen
• 29:40
  that he mentioned the injuries. I, I were watching the game and
• 29:44
  it blessed there were no kind of blessed with no red zone because
• 29:47
  you can focus on kind of the one game at the time there, Josh
• 29:50
  Allen nearly broke his leg. What looked like his leg was
• 29:54
  mangled in, in, in ways that's not very nice to see if you're,
• 29:57
  if you're looking at your, your franchise QB 2 plays prior to
• 30:02
  that, he's throwing the ball and he hits his hand on, on his
• 30:05
  lineman's helmet like and he's, and then he's, he's in and out
• 30:09
  of the medical tent. The guy's Iron Man.
• 30:12
  And I feel the same way as you because we both share him as a
• 30:15
  divisional rival. I hate him, but Jesus Christ is
• 30:19
  phenomenal. This guy is unreal.
• 30:21
  And I respect him so, so much. It pains me to say that he's our
• 30:26
  divisional rival, but yeah. It's just one of those with him,
• 30:33
  isn't it? Like he is the real deal and I
• 30:36
  think he gets a lot of hype in the media and to be fair, he
• 30:41
  went through it, Denise in his early years.
• 30:43
  He he got a lot of stick as well in his first few years and, and
• 30:47
  probably rightly so, he was erratic and he was picked off
• 30:52
  left, right and centre. And he still has those games.
• 30:54
  He still has those games where he's he's not all that and tries
• 30:58
  forcing things too much. But you can see him maturing in
• 31:02
  his game. And I think for them to end that
• 31:08
  game, I mean, the fourth quarter had four changes in leading
• 31:12
  teams, SO4 lead changes, if you like, just in the fourth
• 31:16
  quarter, which probably emphasised that back and forth
• 31:20
  of this game. But the Bills defence were there
• 31:23
  and they they probably got the Bills through the game.
• 31:27
  I mean, the interception at the end of the game was tragic.
• 31:30
  You know, they're just shy of a minute left on the clock, three
• 31:33
  points down. You could see, you know, that
• 31:35
  that fourth quarter, Trevor Lawrence was locked in and he
• 31:38
  was marching them down the field multiple times.
• 31:41
  And you could see it. I was like, they're going to get
• 31:44
  there. They're at least going to get a
• 31:45
  field goal. Let's take this to overtime.
• 31:46
  This is one of those games. This would be great.
• 31:48
  And it was an awful throw. And it was a really, really
• 31:54
  great pick by Bishop, I think it was.
• 31:57
  And I was at a tip to pass maybe actually in hindsight.
• 32:02
  Either way, it was a really brutal way to end the game.
• 32:08
  Wasn't the only time he was picked off, I think was it 2
• 32:09
  picks perhaps? And yeah, I, I feel for the Jags
• 32:16
  because they, they really, they really did close out the season
• 32:19
  really strong and they could have won this game.
• 32:22
  I think credit to Liam Cohen, he, he got a lot of stick when
• 32:26
  he started in Jacksonville. You know that that press
• 32:29
  conference, the Duval was. Awful.
• 32:34
  It was disgusting and rightly so.
• 32:37
  He's a lot of stick for that, but actually he's done a really
• 32:39
  good job and it'll be exciting to see where the Jags go from
• 32:43
  here. Yeah, looking at the Jags, like
• 32:46
  looking at T lot, we came out for me from from a guy watching
• 32:51
  the sport, I thought he came out in the first couple of drives
• 32:55
  first first quarter in particular didn't think that the
• 32:57
  Jags played well at all. I didn't think they came out.
• 33:00
  I thought it took him a better, a better movement to go.
• 33:04
  And then like you say, he got better and better as the game
• 33:06
  went on. Towards the back end of the
• 33:08
  game. They were, they were that last
• 33:11
  part of the season Jags that we knew.
• 33:13
  And I think if they come out like that, I think it'd be a
• 33:15
  completely different game. Didn't utilise that, that run
• 33:19
  game that the Bills have been weak against a lot this year.
• 33:23
  In my opinion, wherever that is, the Bills just picking up on
• 33:26
  that. I'm doing better to stop.
• 33:28
  I don't know, but they could have utilised that a little bit
• 33:31
  more for me. But don't you?
• 33:33
  Feel like the second-half when they really started taking it to
• 33:37
  him, like yeah, you know those complimentary football, but it
• 33:40
  was actually Trevor's passing game as that in my opinion, that
• 33:44
  really took it to them. It was definitely complemented
• 33:48
  by the running game and and that did pick up.
• 33:53
  But yeah, it was just a weird a weird first half for the Jags
• 33:57
  and then the second-half was even crazier considering that
• 33:59
  first half. But yeah, a good, a good
• 34:01
  exciting game for the AFCI. Think wild card round
• 34:04
  definitely. It's a shame and like obviously
• 34:08
  not not taken to the fact that the Bills are our divisional
• 34:12
  rivals. I'd like to have seen the Jags
• 34:14
  progress purely from another team being further up the
• 34:18
  standings. When it comes down to the
• 34:20
  playoffs, you kind of you can put into a bowl 5 or 6 teams or
• 34:26
  five teams. Just say that you're probably
• 34:28
  going to going to get into the playoffs and progress through to
• 34:30
  certain rankings. It's nice to see the likes of,
• 34:34
  you know, the Jags this year progressing to where they've got
• 34:36
  to the Texans as well. Like they're another team that
• 34:40
  they're a great team. By the way, if I'm not not
• 34:42
  putting shade on any of the teams or anything, but they're
• 34:44
  just getting better and better as years to come and you've got
• 34:47
  the likes of other teams that are dropping down.
• 34:48
  It's nice to see new teams coming up and they will be.
• 34:52
  I think the Jags will be a a scary team going forward.
• 34:56
  So yeah, ball's the week #2 done and dusted.
• 34:59
  It's yeah, I believe now we're going to get into the WHIP
• 35:04
  round. My man.
• 35:05
  Is that OK with you? Oh, you're muted, Brad.
• 35:16
  What a rookie error. Let's get against the whip
• 35:20
  round, shall we? Take 2.
• 35:22
  Yes, let's Zack, let's get into the whip around.
• 35:25
  Los Angeles Rams took on the Carolina Panthers and now we've
• 35:29
  not featured this as our balls of the week probably because of
• 35:35
  I think the implications of the two games that we've discussed,
• 35:38
  you know, the rivalry of Green Bay and how close that could
• 35:42
  have been for the Jags against the Bills.
• 35:44
  But arguably you've got one of the best games of the weekend
• 35:48
  here, 65 points combined, which is the highest score of the wild
• 35:52
  card weekend. I believe Rams taking it on
• 35:56
  multiple long drives and quick strikes.
• 35:59
  Just showing that balance there and that's probably the
• 36:01
  difference. However, you've got to give the
• 36:05
  Panthers credit where it's due. Who would have expected the
• 36:08
  Panthers to hang around with the team that arguably most people
• 36:13
  are predicting for the Super Bowl?
• 36:15
  And they really, really sort of displayed how slim margins are
• 36:19
  in the NFL and especially in player football.
• 36:22
  It's this was a crazy, crazy game.
• 36:26
  Now, I have a little soft spot for the Rams when we're talking
• 36:29
  NFC, But if the Panthers could have done this, 8 and 10
• 36:33
  Panthers took it to the Rams. Probably the best, most complete
• 36:38
  team in football arguably at the moment.
• 36:42
  It was just a a really impressive game by the Panthers.
• 36:46
  Yeah, fully agree. Absolutely fantastic.
• 36:49
  We'll move on to the next game within the WHIP round.
• 36:52
  That is the San Francisco 49ers 23, the Philadelphia Eagles 19.
• 36:57
  Old school playoff football game under 45 points, which is a bit
• 37:02
  surprising for the two teams that are in there if you ask me,
• 37:04
  because they're both quite high scoring, high scoring teams in
• 37:07
  there. But it's it's it's nice seeing a
• 37:11
  nice little slug going on. The 49ers held the eagles to
• 37:13
  under 20 points, which is a major defensive benchmark for
• 37:17
  the Niners without how many injuries that they have had in
• 37:20
  their defence. San Francisco 49ers also
• 37:23
  controlled the time possession, which is just basic playoff
• 37:28
  football. It's the it's the blueprint of
• 37:30
  it. Get the get the lead, control
• 37:32
  the ball, control the clock. You've won the game.
• 37:34
  And I know it sounds tough, but that is the bread and butter of
• 37:37
  it. You can control that clock and
• 37:38
  you can be in in command. You are laughing.
• 37:42
  The Eagles red zone struggles were there.
• 37:45
  And not just red zone struggles, sideline struggles.
• 37:48
  A.J. Brown coming to blows once
• 37:52
  again. Is it his personality?
• 37:54
  You know, I don't know where is he going to?
• 37:58
  Let's just say I don't see A.J. Brown fly Eagles flying next
• 38:03
  year, but it puts a bit of a sour spot onto it.
• 38:07
  But yeah, there's the whip round for that one.
• 38:09
  Next game bro. Yeah, the next game was a bit of
• 38:13
  a dud, really. The ugly one, as you might want
• 38:16
  to describe it. So Los Angeles charges 3 and New
• 38:20
  England Patriots 16. I think for this one for me, New
• 38:24
  England Patriots definitely had a point to prove.
• 38:27
  So I believe and I'm going to, I'm still, I'm dying on this
• 38:31
  hill. New England Patriots have still
• 38:33
  yet to play a genuinely good football team.
• 38:36
  Los Angeles Chargers are not a genuinely good football team.
• 38:41
  They are broken. They are upside down.
• 38:45
  Herbert tries to do it on his own at times.
• 38:48
  Their receivers just didn't really appear in this game, but
• 38:52
  they do on counterbalance to that have like one of the sixth,
• 38:56
  I think it's the 6th or 5th ranked defence in there.
• 38:59
  And it showed a little bit. You know, Patriots were held to
• 39:03
  16 points, but the Chargers struggled.
• 39:06
  They they really struggled on 3rd down.
• 39:07
  They couldn't get any sort of rhythm going and I just, I need
• 39:12
  to see New England actually prove it.
• 39:14
  I, I don't feel like they've proven anything yet.
• 39:18
  They've had the third easiest strength of schedule, I think,
• 39:22
  since records have began in that way.
• 39:25
  And it's just continued in the Wild Card weekend.
• 39:27
  So I'm really excited actually for next week's games, which
• 39:30
  we'll get to shortly. But yeah, not too much to scream
• 39:34
  and shout about with this one. Definitely the ugly game of the
• 39:37
  weekend for me. Oh, Jim, Sam, I agree with you.
• 39:40
  As a New England fan as well, I definitely agree with that.
• 39:42
  And to our last game here, we have research.
• 39:45
  Cal, close your eyes, please. I know it's a sensitive subject.
• 39:49
  The Houston Texans 30, Pittsburgh Steelers 6.
• 39:55
  The Scar Lion says it all. The Texans absolutely dominated
• 39:58
  the Steelers there. They couldn't get going.
• 40:00
  Steelers held to single digits, absolutely disastrous for the
• 40:04
  playoff. For the for their kind of their
• 40:07
  play of hope a rods future in my opinion has I don't I don't see
• 40:15
  him coming back next year. I think this playoff is is
• 40:18
  tough. I think he's a tough loss to
• 40:20
  have the Houston just scored early and they were forcing
• 40:25
  Pittsburgh to have to go for them plays for some out of their
• 40:28
  comfort zones to the hat to go on the field and not just the
• 40:31
  control of the game, but with the skyline, obviously, but
• 40:34
  making Pittsburgh having to go for that extra yard every single
• 40:37
  time, which going up against like Houston defence, which is
• 40:41
  the best defence in the league in my opinion and probably by
• 40:43
  the starts. I'm not going to quote that
• 40:44
  because I don't know factually, but in my opinion they're the
• 40:47
  best defence by far in the in the. #1 ranked defence.
• 40:53
  Yeah, and not just that. The balance shows, right.
• 40:56
  So this, the scoring drives, the stopping, the stopping plays
• 41:01
  with the DS, clean executions all around.
• 41:03
  CJ Stroud looked good. I hate saying it, but these boys
• 41:09
  are good. These boys are good and I only
• 41:12
  hate this hate it because we play these next round.
• 41:15
  But yeah, there's not much more to say over then I reckon A rods
• 41:18
  out of there. Yeah, that's that's how I see
• 41:23
  it. That's how I see it.
• 41:24
  But yeah, so that's the week round for this week.
• 41:27
  You got anything you want to say?
• 41:28
  And I'll touch on the game before and before we move on to
• 41:31
  our next. No, no, I think we'll, you know,
• 41:35
  I think I echo everything you say.
• 41:37
  Pittsburgh, I've always, not always sorry this season.
• 41:40
  They've never been convincing, have they?
• 41:42
  They've had moments, they've had flashes, but they've never been
• 41:44
  convincing. And they've definitely been
• 41:46
  found out by a much better team. You've got the Houston Texans
• 41:50
  and you had the Jags, both from the South, whereas, you know, a
• 41:53
  week ago you had two teams on the North battling it out.
• 41:56
  It's almost like I almost wonder.
• 41:59
  And it was a friend of mine who we were just chatting in a group
• 42:02
  chat on a fantasy chat just today actually.
• 42:06
  And it's interesting that if the Ravens had to beat Steelers a
• 42:10
  week ago, Wood Harbour have been fired this season.
• 42:15
  Wood Ravens have been able to go on a bit of a run like the
• 42:17
  Ravens can. It's almost like the Steelers
• 42:21
  deprived us of what might have been.
• 42:25
  Sorry, Carl, but it's, it's a bit fraudulent.
• 42:29
  And I think a rod's probably done.
• 42:33
  Maybe he's a bit of a weird one. No one really knows and who
• 42:37
  knows what's going to happen with Tomlin.
• 42:38
  There's loads of talk, isn't there about him going into the
• 42:41
  media and things that Bob, time will tell.
• 42:45
  But there's definitely the hype there or the the rumours are
• 42:48
  there that the media have got him coming.
• 42:50
  So it'll be interesting to see what happens over the next days,
• 42:54
  weeks in Pittsburgh with those two guys.
• 42:58
  That's it, right? So we've spoke about with the
• 43:01
  games that happened this weekend, we've got some MVP odds
• 43:04
  and some coach of the year odds. I want to touch on this with you
• 43:06
  now. Get your predictions on here.
• 43:08
  These are from just before this weekend's games because Trevor
• 43:12
  Lawrence is still on this list. So don't shoot us down for that.
• 43:16
  Oh, wait, because he's pretty big season.
• 43:20
  Yeah, big season. MVP odds here.
• 43:24
  Matt Stafford out in front four to seven.
• 43:26
  Favourite Drake May, 7 to 5 Trevor Lawrence, 2:50 to 1.
• 43:31
  Sam Donald, 400 to one. Caleb Williams 500 to 1.
• 43:36
  MVP Who've he got for it? My heart says Stafford probably
• 43:44
  deserves it. But the cynicist in me kind of
• 43:52
  thinks Drake May might get it. I think he's got a real, a real
• 43:59
  good shout. I mean, the odds are very close,
• 44:01
  aren't they? I think Stafford deserves it.
• 44:04
  I think May might get it. So for a non patriots fan here I
• 44:11
  agree but the reasons why I agree is a look at the weapons
• 44:17
  around the QBs and it's what they make with them.
• 44:21
  Weapons around the QB Stafford has poker Stafford has devante 2
• 44:30
  the best wide receivers in the NFL two reliable sources.
• 44:33
  Whereas Drake doesn't have he has he has Stefan digs correct
• 44:37
  He does he has Stefan digs there mass of it also has like 15
• 44:41
  tight ends that he can rely on. OK.
• 44:43
  I just feel like the targets are more there for Stafford, which
• 44:47
  makes his job a little bit easier.
• 44:51
  I am not taken away from Stafford in any way, shape or
• 44:53
  form. I think the guy's unreal.
• 44:55
  I think he's had the best year of his of his career this year.
• 44:58
  I think he just shows why he is who he is because of what he
• 45:03
  does on that field. If he won it, as a Patriots fan,
• 45:06
  if he won it, I wouldn't be decided.
• 45:08
  I'd be like, you know, this guy deserved it.
• 45:10
  He did everything there. But at the same time, I just
• 45:13
  think Drake did a little bit more with what I had around him.
• 45:17
  Personally, I think it's I think it's two hours race.
• 45:20
  I don't I don't see from anybody else.
• 45:21
  I think it's two hours race personally.
• 45:23
  No, and these awards are always like quite skewed any way out of
• 45:27
  the it's the media darlings. And you know, we've got the
• 45:29
  coach of the year there as well to discuss and it's it's always
• 45:34
  a similar picture, isn't it? It's who's the media darling,
• 45:37
  who's everyone backing? It's not, it's a little bit like
• 45:41
  the Pro Bowl in a different way that it's a bit of a popularity
• 45:48
  contest in a way. You know, not not quite as much
• 45:50
  as the Pro Bowl obviously, but the coach of the year 1 I think
• 45:54
  for me is probably a little bit easier to call.
• 45:57
  I think it is the odds on favourite there.
• 46:00
  For me, it's Mike Vrabel. He's turned the he's turned the
• 46:06
  franchise back around, hasn't he?
• 46:07
  He's come in and almost returned Patriots instantly back to that
• 46:13
  glory. I think they need to sustain it.
• 46:15
  Obviously then they're not quite at that Brady stature, so they
• 46:19
  need to sustain it over a number of years.
• 46:22
  But for a first year returning coach or a coach at a new team
• 46:27
  in their first year, he's done a tremendous job.
• 46:29
  I guess for similar reasons what you've just spoke about.
• 46:32
  Drake may credit where it's due. It kills me to say, but yeah, I
• 46:36
  think Brabel's in for the coach of the year.
• 46:39
  I'd like to think so. It'd be a nice little sweep.
• 46:41
  You've forgotten both. I'm not going to lie, it would
• 46:43
  be and it's it's refreshing to see from a patriot from when the
• 46:47
  entire world hated us for so long and now it seems to afflict
• 46:51
  the entire world kind of likes us a little bit now and they
• 46:54
  don't want to admit it. I wouldn't still do.
• 46:56
  I don't know. I think people are starting to
• 46:58
  like the patriots. I think people are starting to
• 47:00
  like the pages are not going to like.
• 47:03
  But yeah, I would agree there mate.
• 47:04
  Might might be able there. I'm surprised Ben Johnson not a
• 47:07
  closer odds, to be fair. That did surprise me, yeah.
• 47:12
  I am, but I think it's more back end that season, not all, not.
• 47:16
  Zach, I'm going to have to stop you.
• 47:17
  Zach, I'm going to have to interrupt you.
• 47:19
  Sorry. Just as we're recording this
• 47:21
  live, it's just popped up to me. Now we have some breaking news.
• 47:24
  Look at this. So I don't know if you've seen
• 47:27
  this yet, Zach. It's just popped up on my phone.
• 47:29
  Now as we're as we're recording the Pittsburgh Steelers, head
• 47:33
  coach Mike Tomlin announces that he's stepping down.
• 47:37
  So just to confirm what you said earlier, Zach, it's 19 years I
• 47:42
  believe he's had in charge following their defeat yesterday
• 47:46
  is yeah, he's he's gone. He gone, He's gone.
• 47:51
  Well, if you'd have said it started, yeah, that both Harbour
• 47:54
  and and Tomlin would have been gone at the end of the season.
• 47:58
  Jeez. I mean, look at the AFC North
• 48:02
  now you've got, you've got Tomlin's gone.
• 48:04
  Stefans is gone. It's Stefanski.
• 48:07
  Sorry, Harbaugh's gone. Who would have thought that
• 48:10
  Taylor's the only guy sticking around like that's crazy.
• 48:14
  Yeah, I know, right? Wow, there's some names knocking
• 48:17
  about there, Researcher. Can't do and the audience can't
• 48:20
  see you right now, but just give us your.
• 48:24
  Give us your verdict. Thumbs up, thumbs down.
• 48:26
  Show us your face. Let us describe this to the
• 48:29
  audio listener. Oh, just big eyes open.
• 48:36
  Just the big eyes open. I see.
• 48:38
  Yeah. What seven ways to is it 17?
• 48:43
  I'm sorry, how many how many consecutive this is on the fly
• 48:47
  this by the way, break this kind of caught us off guard it Kyle.
• 48:49
  How many consecutive seasons has he took you to the to the
• 48:54
  playoffs? Because yes, it's a big defeat
• 48:59
  against the Texans, but where does he stand in terms of like
• 49:04
  what he's done for the club? Is this another like harbour
• 49:08
  situation where it's yeah, you know, you've done a lot for us.
• 49:11
  We know we appreciate that you're a good coach and you we
• 49:14
  appreciate that if you did go somewhere else, you would
• 49:15
  probably do wonders. But like, what do you like?
• 49:22
  I don't know, Is it better somewhere else?
• 49:24
  I just find this absolutely mind blowing that they've done it now
• 49:30
  and who steps into the place right now?
• 49:33
  Who steps into that Pittsburgh Steelers route that that
• 49:35
  Pittsburgh Steelers job because it's I don't create be there.
• 49:41
  It's crazy, isn't it? It's really difficult to see.
• 49:43
  And I think to fill those boots, it's it's on that level of not
• 49:48
  quite, you know, Belichick, is it, you know, not quite that
• 49:51
  same successful. I'd say they're similar in their
• 49:54
  characters, aren't they? That they don't quite have
• 50:01
  obvious people who fit the mould of that franchise.
• 50:05
  Like when you think of the Steelers, you think of Tomlin.
• 50:09
  I always remember like the one who was it now?
• 50:13
  It was the Ravens player running down the sideline and Tomlin
• 50:17
  stepped into the field. Was it Jacoby?
• 50:21
  It was like, I just imagine little things like that when I
• 50:26
  think Steelers and it's Tomlin. Tomlin is Steelers.
• 50:29
  It's going to be a crazy one to actually see who actually ends
• 50:35
  up being there and and filling those shoes.
• 50:40
  Research Carl's actually just sharing now.
• 50:42
  It's obviously just quite quickly.
• 50:44
  So it's crazy how quick these odds appear, isn't it?
• 50:47
  But apparently Chris Shula of the DC, sorry, the DC of the
• 50:53
  Rams, should I say, is the odds on favourites along with Brian
• 50:57
  Flores, who we mentioned earlier, Robert Seller and Clint
• 51:01
  Kubiak up there as well. Really, really interesting and.
• 51:06
  I love this, by the way. I love this start here.
• 51:09
  The last time the Steelers hired a new a new head coach, the
• 51:11
  iPhone didn't exist. That's fantastic that it's kind
• 51:18
  of caught me off guard a little bit because there were talks
• 51:21
  throughout the season. Is Tommy ready to go?
• 51:23
  There's been talks for the past month or so.
• 51:26
  He's got a media job lined up. He's got a media job lined up
• 51:29
  and just you going back on like the what ifs on the harbour.
• 51:34
  If he didn't lose to XY, is everybody has still lost here
• 51:36
  now? Would he like would he have
• 51:37
  still lost his job? How many games, big games did
• 51:43
  Tommy not have to lose to lose his job here?
• 51:46
  If this skyline to be closer still lost, but closer would he
• 51:49
  still lost his job? I mean, then I was a bit of a.
• 51:54
  I think it's been, I, my gut says it was probably in the
• 51:59
  works anyway. My gut says that, you know, we
• 52:03
  don't know the full, I don't know the full insurance and outs
• 52:06
  at this moment. The, the notification was that
• 52:08
  he stepped down. Whether that's a mutual thing,
• 52:11
  you know, you never really know because when someone's meant so
• 52:15
  much to an organisation for so long, you're probably going to
• 52:18
  give them the respect to publicly be able to step down as
• 52:22
  opposed to publicly they've been fired.
• 52:24
  You never really know. But I think it's definitely
• 52:27
  seemed within the media this year isn't it, that writing's
• 52:30
  kind of been on the wall that this was potentially is last
• 52:32
  year. Unless something crazy happened
• 52:34
  and they went on a big run. It was almost a bit of a, a
• 52:36
  latch last ditch attempt really getting a rod in for the year.
• 52:41
  Maybe that's why it was just a one year thing.
• 52:44
  Yeah, there's there's lots of ifs and buts, but my gut says it
• 52:47
  was probably done. I know research Cal's just
• 52:51
  chiming away in the background for the audience.
• 52:53
  He's. Keyboard he's on fire.
• 52:56
  He's he's he's he looked tired after that He did he did, but I
• 53:02
  just think I just think he's he's the face of that Steelers.
• 53:06
  This could be a a nice little you know, turn around for you.
• 53:11
  I I well over time with this is breaking news to us.
• 53:14
  It's kind of shocked for us as such a first time we've got
• 53:18
  we've had the news kind of come out live there.
• 53:20
  Credit to to research Carl for getting that typed up and
• 53:22
  getting on the screen as quick as he did do for us.
• 53:25
  But yeah Mike Tomlin no longer part of the Pittsburgh Steelers.
• 53:29
  I don't see him coaching. I think the rumours will be true
• 53:32
  when he goes straight into the media.
• 53:33
  Only time will tell. So yeah, big one on that
• 53:39
  divisional Round games, Brad. So let's get into that, shall
• 53:41
  we? Yeah, let's.
• 53:43
  Do it divisional round games this Saturday and Sunday.
• 53:47
  We have the AFC divisional round UPS, which would be the Denver
• 53:51
  Broncos, the Buffalo Bills, sorry, at the Denver Broncos,
• 53:54
  which is Saturday at 9:30 PM UK time.
• 53:58
  And then after that we're on Sunday at 8:00 PM UK time.
• 54:01
  We have the Houston Texans at the New England Patriots for me
• 54:06
  and no it should be because it's the divisional roundup games 2
• 54:10
  very very exciting games to watch.
• 54:13
  Not going to lie that Buffalo Denver game is going to either
• 54:16
  be a three-point game or either team.
• 54:20
  I'm not going to name a team because I think Eva team could
• 54:22
  potentially run away with the game.
• 54:24
  I. Think it's it's without a doubt
• 54:27
  the most exciting weekend of football for me.
• 54:29
  The divisional round games are always the best games of the
• 54:33
  year. What's crazy, I think with the
• 54:35
  Buffalo Bills and the Denver Broncos here is I think you've
• 54:38
  got the sixth seed at the first seed.
• 54:42
  And if you'd have put these two names in at the beginning of the
• 54:45
  season and you just said this is the 6th and first seed, which
• 54:47
  one's which? There's no way in hell anybody
• 54:50
  would have said the Denver Broncos are the first seed and
• 54:51
  Buffalo Bills are 6. I think it's crazy.
• 54:54
  I think the Broncos have got a distinct advantage that Mile
• 54:57
  High. Buffalo Bills are going to have
• 55:00
  a tough game here, but I feel like the experience of playoff
• 55:05
  football from the Bills from Josh Allen could could be the
• 55:11
  edge in this one. I think for this particular
• 55:14
  game, again, I hate it, but I'm probably back in the Bills.
• 55:22
  I think the experience of the Bills being in the playoffs
• 55:25
  really helps them out here. But I just there's something
• 55:28
  about please don't tell us friend Kane, who, by the way,
• 55:31
  who was a Denver Broncos fan and again as part of our team that
• 55:36
  we play for in the UK, but you're.
• 55:38
  Using the word friend very loosely there.
• 55:41
  Acquaintance. Sorry, acquaintance.
• 55:43
  Please don't tell me I'm going to say this, but there's
• 55:46
  something about that Denver Broncos team right now that
• 55:49
  they're just so exciting to watch.
• 55:52
  Bonex is just so exciting to watch.
• 55:55
  And when he got drafted and when he had this hype about him, I
• 55:59
  just didn't see it to begin with.
• 56:00
  And then I don't know that draft that that that trading for a for
• 56:06
  a QB, sorry, trading for the head coach, which is not not
• 56:11
  normally done has paid off so well for them.
• 56:15
  And I don't know I'm I'm I'm going I'm going Denver, I'm
• 56:20
  going Denver on that match for sure.
• 56:22
  That will. Certainly be an interesting one.
• 56:24
  I think it's definitely a good one to start the divisional like
• 56:27
  weekend, isn't it? It's going to be an absolute
• 56:29
  start. But then, and then it's the
• 56:33
  Houston Texans and the New England Patriots afterwards.
• 56:37
  I want to go on record by saying I love my team.
• 56:40
  I will support my team through thick and thin.
• 56:44
  But it's been a nice ride. I don't see us progressing any
• 56:47
  further. No, I've got to agree.
• 56:51
  I mean, you've got the AFC games starting the Saturday and
• 56:55
  starting the Sunday slates and, you know, if we're talking UK
• 56:59
  times and weird early hours fixtures.
• 57:03
  But I think you're right. Both are going to be good games,
• 57:06
  I hope. But I'm, I'm sticking to what
• 57:08
  I've said earlier in the the part that the Texans are a real
• 57:13
  football team. And it's the first real football
• 57:16
  team that the Patriots have played this season.
• 57:18
  And maybe not the first, but you know, in a meaningful game where
• 57:24
  it's really mad and I think the Texans are going to take it to
• 57:27
  the Patriots, I'm going even bolder.
• 57:28
  I'm going to say that the Texans are are going to put up a
• 57:31
  Pittsburgh Steelers type score against the Patriots.
• 57:35
  Look, definitely don't want to agree with you.
• 57:38
  I'm not saying you're wrong, but I don't agree with you because I
• 57:41
  can't go that far. I can't back against my team and
• 57:44
  then but that as well. So not going to say you're
• 57:47
  wrong, but I don't disagree with you.
• 57:50
  OK, we're, we're off the NFC games.
• 57:52
  Then we have the Sunday 1:00 AM. Oh, sorry, these are these,
• 57:58
  these are the wrong order from on my screen to the San
• 58:01
  Francisco 49ers at the Seattle Seahawks on Sunday.
• 58:05
  And then we have the Los Angeles Rams at the Chicago Bears.
• 58:09
  These two, it's hard to say the the the Niners Seahawks game for
• 58:15
  me is one of them where I'd never expect to see see the
• 58:18
  Seahawks in the playoffs at the start of this year.
• 58:21
  I think out of all four games, it's the one I've not got the
• 58:26
  the most amount of like eagerness to watch.
• 58:30
  What about yourself on that one? I think it's a weird one because
• 58:35
  you've got 49ers who are like a shadow of who they should be.
• 58:41
  They've got so many injuries, they are banged up to high hell
• 58:45
  and yet they are still winning and winning well.
• 58:50
  But then you've got the Seahawks, obviously they had the
• 58:52
  first round bye and for much of the season, along with the Rams
• 58:57
  have been kind of neck and neck of who who is the best team in
• 58:59
  football. The one thing for me in this
• 59:02
  game, I'm not a massive Purdy fan.
• 59:06
  I'll be honest, I think he is far better than his draft.
• 59:12
  You know, he is Mr Irrelevant or former Mr Irrelevant and he is
• 59:17
  far better than that without a shadow of a doubt.
• 59:20
  But for me, seeing Sam Darnold as the number one seed of the
• 59:25
  NFC, taking the team to the divisional round, it's such a
• 59:31
  redemption for him. And you know, he had a great
• 59:34
  season at the Vikings last year and his last game there stunk.
• 59:39
  And I just I just hope because my gut says the Niners have got
• 59:44
  this one, I think, but I just hope it's not an absolute
• 59:49
  stinker for Darnold because it'd be so good for him.
• 59:51
  He's he's a likeable guy. Everyone thought he was done
• 59:54
  after The Jets and he's had a real nice redemption and and and
• 59:58
  earn. He's earned a good contract.
• 1:00:00
  He really has. And it'd be nice to see if he
• 1:00:04
  does go out this round, which like, say, I think he might.
• 1:00:08
  And maybe you won't great and great, but I hope it's a good
• 1:00:12
  game for him and I hope this could be a close one.
• 1:00:15
  This could be a close one. I agree.
• 1:00:17
  He deserves it. He's he's definitely Sean and
• 1:00:20
  he's one of them examples of moving out of you know, you
• 1:00:24
  might look bad in a in a, in a sorry, you might, you might you
• 1:00:29
  might look bad in an organisation, But if you come
• 1:00:32
  out of the organisation to go elsewhere, you can show you kind
• 1:00:35
  of colours and him and Baker may for the two prime examples of
• 1:00:38
  that and move on. Then to the Los Angeles Rams at
• 1:00:41
  the Chicago Bears. I think this is up there with a
• 1:00:43
  Denver Broncos, Buffalo Bills kind of game.
• 1:00:46
  This has the potential for me to be an absolute storm.
• 1:00:51
  I that the potential for me on this is this could be one of the
• 1:00:56
  highest scoring playoff games that's ever been out.
• 1:01:01
  It has that kind of for me, it has that kind of that hype
• 1:01:04
  around it to really high scoring offences at this moment in time,
• 1:01:08
  to inform offences as well to exciting offences.
• 1:01:12
  I'm all for this. This would be a great game for
• 1:01:14
  me. I think the difference with this
• 1:01:16
  one for the Bears are if they fall behind like they did in the
• 1:01:22
  wild card, I don't see them coming back.
• 1:01:25
  I think the Rams are just too good and they're going to
• 1:01:31
  struggle if they let themselves slip early on.
• 1:01:35
  But I hope you're right and I hope it's an exciting,
• 1:01:39
  competitive game and it's it's potentially the game of the
• 1:01:45
  weekend for me. I think every game here has got
• 1:01:49
  a lot of potential. You're probably right in the
• 1:01:52
  Niners. Seahawks is probably the one
• 1:01:53
  that I don't look forward to the most, despite it being a good
• 1:01:58
  game on paper. But this one, the Rams and the
• 1:02:01
  Bears could be the game of the weekend.
• 1:02:04
  And I think here you've got the NFC champion in the Rams and I
• 1:02:12
  think you've potentially got on the Saturday, the AFC champion
• 1:02:17
  in the Bills. And I'm going to make a
• 1:02:21
  prediction here, and I'm going to ask you for yours, Zach, Who
• 1:02:24
  have you got winning the Super Bowl?
• 1:02:28
  Because I'm saying Rams. Texans.
• 1:02:37
  Wow. I mean, that would be exciting.
• 1:02:39
  They've never been there before. That would be very exciting.
• 1:02:42
  I think that Texans team right now is the best team in the NFL
• 1:02:49
  in form. Forget stats and all that jazz,
• 1:02:52
  right to watch a team that is in form right now, that Texans team
• 1:02:56
  for me is I, you're right. I'll go as bold as same.
• 1:03:03
  The winner of that game wins the Super Bowl for me out of the
• 1:03:07
  Texans and New England, because I think both of them are in
• 1:03:10
  form. But I don't think New England
• 1:03:12
  have what it takes to take take on the Texans.
• 1:03:14
  I'm just saying that now. But for me, Texans win the Super
• 1:03:16
  Bowl for my prediction on the NFC games.
• 1:03:18
  By the way, just right quickly, because I think research to jot
• 1:03:21
  these down, I'm going to go Niners.
• 1:03:26
  You've got Rams on you. I'm going to Bears.
• 1:03:28
  I'm backing my boy Caleb. He's my, he's my #1QB in
• 1:03:30
  fantasy. I'm backing my boy Caleb.
• 1:03:32
  Let's go for it. Caleb, you're taking me.
• 1:03:34
  You're taking me there. I see this as a moment, OK?
• 1:03:40
  Houston Bears Super Bowl. I think it's going to be
• 1:03:45
  electric. I think it's going to be
• 1:03:47
  absolutely electric. Who just said that's like, yeah.
• 1:03:51
  What's great for the audience who if they're watching that,
• 1:03:54
  obviously they can't see Callum, whereas we can.
• 1:03:57
  And it's funny, when you said the Texans going to win the
• 1:04:00
  Super Bowl, myself and research Kyle just pulled the exact same
• 1:04:03
  face. Which?
• 1:04:05
  Probably says everything there, but yeah, it'll be an
• 1:04:08
  interesting round. Definitely.
• 1:04:10
  I'm I'm looking forward to it. We love an underdog story, we
• 1:04:13
  love an underdog story. So they divisional round,
• 1:04:16
  divisional round games that I couldn't this weekend.
• 1:04:19
  Be sure to check it out and obviously we'll have everything
• 1:04:21
  from that weekend next week in next weeks episode as well.
• 1:04:25
  And just while Brad mentioned that there as well, if you are
• 1:04:27
  watching this, if you are listening to this and you'll be
• 1:04:30
  able, you can watch it. Spotify and YouTube have video
• 1:04:32
  versions of these podcasts. Feel free to head over and watch
• 1:04:35
  them. All the fancy graphics are on
• 1:04:37
  the screens from all the the the stuff that research Cal does for
• 1:04:41
  us and and things. All the information's on there.
• 1:04:42
  So come over and drop us a follow and subscribe while
• 1:04:45
  you're there. Anyway, Brad, we're going to
• 1:04:47
  move on from the divisional games to a little feature that
• 1:04:53
  we do called All Other Balls. OK, so I'm just going to hit the
• 1:04:57
  Jingle music and then we're going to get into it from there.
• 1:04:59
  My mum. Oh, I love that short Jingle.
• 1:05:04
  It's just nice and in your face, but boom, all the balls.
• 1:05:07
  So do me a favour, explain to the to the audience who've never
• 1:05:11
  listened to this podcast before, what all the balls is.
• 1:05:15
  Yeah, so all of the balls is where we touch on other sports
• 1:05:19
  from around the globe, around the country, around the town, if
• 1:05:24
  you like, which we'll be touching on shortly.
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  It's where we pick up features that aren't the NFL and
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  highlight what's going on in the world of sport.
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  It says it is what it's on the tin.
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  Sorry. And with this we're going to get
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  into the first all the balls. My story of the week is
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  Macclesfield. Now, I'm not a football soccer
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  fan as much. I love watching all all kinds of
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  sports. I'll watch it on TVI don't
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  really follow a team and things like that.
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  But Macclesfield, now they beat Crystal Palace, who are the
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  reigning FA Cup champions by the way.
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  They beat them two, one at the weekend and it's the biggest
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  ever FA Cup upset in terms of like league places between
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  teams. And I love and I love this like
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  underdog kind of mentality and with the word goal, but to the
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  goal server by a guy called Paul Dawson.
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  Sorry, I was looking at my notes here by a guy called Paul
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  Dawson, who's a motorway supervisor, right?
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  And Isaac Buckley Ricketts, who used to play at Man City, but
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  he's now obviously working, playing part time down at
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  Macclesfield. This is mental.
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  This guy's working on M62 filling pot oils, right?
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  And cousin scores winning goal or first got no between while
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  the news that I saw because he scores a goal in the FA Cup to
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  put his team through right. That and that money, that prize
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  money for a small team for like Macclesfield going up in the
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  next round is is club change. It's mental for him.
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  A fun fact about Macclesfield there though is the owner bought
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  the club on right move as a drunken bite after a night out
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  after the Phoenix club went up for sale following the original
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  Macclesfield Town ground busting COVID.
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  Which is ludicrous, absolutely ludicrous.
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  And he's also managed by Wayne Rooney's brother.
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  This is a long story for me. I, I'm going to go on, I'm going
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  to go on Sky Better and gamble responsibly.
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  I'm going to back Macclesfield to get to do something as FA
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  Cup. I'm going to put £0.50 each way
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  on them and see where they go from there, see what odds I can
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  get. But that's that's the story,
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  number one of all of the balls and it's Macclesfield dominating
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  the FA Cup this weekend. I'll see you, my man.
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  Yeah, I mean, that's that's a crazy story.
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  That's a real David and Goliath without being too cliche, isn't
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  it? But that's just that's mad,
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  absolutely mad to beat the reigning FA Cup champions as
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  well. It's just insane.
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  Insane. Yeah.
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  I mean, for our next story, going to bring this one much
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  closer to home, actually. So Zach, I know you will be
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  aware of this, but for the audience, Zack and I are big
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  rugby league fans. So, you know, growing up in a
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  mining town in Yorkshire, you kind of bleed rugby, rugby
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  league, you know, and being a castle for Tigers fan myself,
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  you form not attachments as such, but the rugby league
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  community is a real family community.
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  Like you can give banter to other teams, you've got your
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  rivalries and you'll give them all the stick at the games.
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  But you don't really tend to get the, the actual hatred as such.
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  And you don't get the, the venom that you get between fan bases,
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  maybe in other sports such as football, for example, soccer.
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  And it's quite sad really to hear about what's going on at
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  Featherstone Rovers. So just a bit of back story.
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  So Featherstone Rovers really close club to Castleford, like
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  an old rival. And there's always that bit of
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  banter between the two teams. And so last year they they came
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  into some financial difficulties.
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  And it's no secret if you, if you know anything about the
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  sport, that it's not the most profitable sport in the world.
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  But for me, as well as the NFL, rugby league is without a doubt
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  one of the most exciting sports to watch.
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  You know, you watch a nil, nil game of rugby league and you
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  know, you've watched an absolute battle on the field.
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  And it's, it's difficult with teams maintaining the, the
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  necessary funding, sponsorships, TV money.
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  There's, there's so much there which we won't go into.
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  But long and short is FEV came up short and basically we're
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  threatened with a winding up petition.
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  And then in December 25, just before Christmas, they formally
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  entered administration due to to debts and and things like that
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  that the team have accrued moving on a little bit into
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  January. So the Rugby Football League.
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  So the RFL confirmed that the Featherstone Rovers will not
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  compete in the 2026 Betfred Championship or the Challenge
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  Cup and have not been granted RFL membership for the season.
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  So this comes despite there actually being a consortium that
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  submitted a bid to take ownership and rescue the club,
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  but the RFL made a decision. RFL being the governing body of
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  a sport that wants to grow and has clubs like Featherstone with
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  a rich history, but they ruled they didn't meet the necessary
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  governance and sustainability criteria because it was
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  considered too closely tied to the previous ownership and said
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  it wasn't basically secure enough in its its finances.
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  It's it's heartbreaking, It's heartbreaking.
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  And like, for me, I, I don't know what this really means for
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  the club because if they're not playing in the Championship,
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  where do they play? Will they play?
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  It's not quite clear on how all this looks, but it's really
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  interesting what other clubs and communities have gone out and
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  done. One of the nice ones I saw was
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  Whitehaven. They have offered free member,
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  not free membership, free admission to all of their games
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  for Featherstone season ticket holders.
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  Now I know it's a bit of a journey, but I think it's just a
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  good gesture and it shows that community, that community
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  spirit, that family spirit of, of rugby league and it's it's
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  really gutting. It's really gutting for the club
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  and I hope, I hope they can come through it.
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  The other, the other side, really.
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  Yeah, this is the cast fan. You grow up 18th of you do you
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  know there's a good and that's the that's the rival that we
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  spoke about earlier within in the NFL and it's the rival that
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  you want, but you ate them on the field and off the field.
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  You have a drink with you have a drink with them like the
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  community within the rugby league scene is is unreal.
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  Like within the NFL, for instance, you'll see your team
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  play it with with 60,000 people plus watching this team, we're
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  talking about 6 to 10,000 people at most watching your team here
• 1:12:22
  and that that that commute that these people are playing for
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  fav. We went to school with them.
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  There's professionals, it's a professional sport, but because
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  of the, the, the upbringing at the heart, the way we have you
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  play in a young age, there's a strong chance to get into
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  professional spot that way. And seeing people losing their
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  jobs because because, well, because of ownership's done what
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  they've done money wise. You know, there's a lot of
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  speculation out there which you can't say is true or not true
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  and what where where the money's gone and etcetera and who's been
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  paid and who haven't been paid. But on the outside it looks shit
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  and it is shit for a lot of people that are going there to
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  try to earn a wage. And now these guys that were
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  earning a wage to the family have no longer got clubs to play
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  for and liver championship team. So it's got a lot of players
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  that are either back end of their career or just not good
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  enough to go to that next level of the Super League.
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  These are, you know, in the championship you'll have the the
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  borderline part time teams, but they're not, they're still full
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  time. So they're not getting paid an
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  absolute tonne. But they've lost out on what
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  they've been doing all the life. And it's a heartbreaking seat.
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  Regardless to what team it is. You don't want to see it.
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  And it hits close to home because it's down the road, it's
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  10 minutes down the road for us. It's it could happen to anybody.
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  And now it's kind of like rally calls getting going.
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  Personally, I think forever now done.
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  I think the ownership behind it have killed.
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  This is my views by the way, just my personal views.
• 1:13:58
  I mean the ownership have killed it.
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  I think there's no time back from it.
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  It's selfish. And they could have sold up
• 1:14:04
  years ago when they should have done made some money, but he saw
• 1:14:07
  it coming in and didn't do anything from there.
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  So it's going to be a stadiums up there.
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  It'll be houses in the next 15 year.
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  And it's a sad sight to see because you don't just change
• 1:14:17
  teams in mobile league, you don't just move to next local
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  team because you've been brought all that.
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  You don't do that. It's sad.
• 1:14:25
  It's sad to see. It is.
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  It really, really is. But yeah.
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  So that's anything else on that one, mate, before we move on to
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  no, I think. It's some deal.
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  Sweet, right. We're going to move on to the
• 1:14:42
  final part of the evening, something a little bit lighter
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