Latest / Trend Watch / Episode 99: Maximum Warfare, Everywhere, All the Time
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- 0:04SPEAKER_01: I'm your host, Neil Howe, and this is Trend Watch.
- 0:20[music]
- 0:30SPEAKER_01: Today is July 16th, 2026, and this is Trend Watch.
- 0:35SPEAKER_01: Welcome back, everybody.
- 0:36SPEAKER_01: As usual, I have on my fellow analyst, Christian Ford.
- 0:40SPEAKER_01: Christian, how are you doing up there in Maine?
- 0:43SPEAKER_00: I'm doing great, Neil.
- 0:45SPEAKER_00: You know, last weekend I went with my family to do some hikes up in Baxter State Park.
- 0:50SPEAKER_00: That's where the Appalachian Trail ends, and it was beautiful.
- 0:54SPEAKER_00: It went to some waterfalls and good to be out in nature.
- 0:59SPEAKER_01: That's where it ends.
- 1:01SPEAKER_00: Yeah, on Mount Katon.
- 1:03SPEAKER_00: We were on part of the AT for a little bit, but yeah, it ends up the big mountain.
- 1:08SPEAKER_01: At the other end, it ends in what?
- 1:10SPEAKER_01: Georgia?
- 1:11SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 1:12SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 1:13SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, I got that.
- 1:14SPEAKER_01: It's a long ways.
- 1:17SPEAKER_01: It's a little bit on the West Coast.
- 1:19SPEAKER_01: We have, you know, walking the Muir Trail all the way up through the Cascade Trail.
- 1:22SPEAKER_01: I mean, you can go.
- 1:23SPEAKER_01: I mean, it must be 1,500 miles.
- 1:25SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 1:25SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:29SPEAKER_01: A bit more rugged, I would say.
- 1:32SPEAKER_01: But then again,
- 1:32SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 1:33SPEAKER_01: I guess they're,
- 1:34SPEAKER_01: I don't know, the Sierra Nevada are probably 150 million years younger.
- 1:41SPEAKER_01: The Appalachians is probably the reason.
- 1:43SPEAKER_01: Anyway,
- 1:47SPEAKER_01: here we are, and we got some interesting news this week, and we want to get into it.
- 1:56SPEAKER_01: Obviously, the Iran War.
- 2:02SPEAKER_01: What Trump's going to do, you know, is the war back on or not?
- 2:06SPEAKER_01: We're going to talk a little bit more about the elections.
- 2:09SPEAKER_01: We're certainly going to talk about a bit about Lindsey Graham,
- 2:13SPEAKER_01: who passed away very suddenly,
- 2:16SPEAKER_01: and something about the current hearings with Todd Blanch and other related matters.
- 2:22SPEAKER_01: I guess we could start.
- 2:24SPEAKER_01: With the economy, we did have the, I know the CPI was Tuesday morning, right?
- 2:33SPEAKER_01: Why don't you go down the highlights?
- 2:35SPEAKER_00: All right, Neil, we'll start with the markets.
- 2:37SPEAKER_00: You know,
- 2:37SPEAKER_00: this is midday when we're recording,
- 2:39SPEAKER_00: so not the final numbers, but the S&P is down right now, 0.54%.
- 2:45SPEAKER_00: And over the last five trading days is down 0.16%.
- 2:49SPEAKER_00: As for the global Dow, Yeah, absolutely.
- 3:16SPEAKER_01: Why don't you talk a little bit about the CPI report?
- 3:20SPEAKER_01: I know it's already in our rearview mirror, but... We got the...
- 3:26SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 3:27SPEAKER_00: So we had the CPI month over month for June fell 0.4%.
- 3:33SPEAKER_00: That was the first monthly decline, Neil, we've seen since May 2020.
- 3:37SPEAKER_00: Year over year, it eased from 4.2% to 3.5%.
- 3:40SPEAKER_00: If we look at only core inflation, month over month was flat.
- 3:45SPEAKER_00: And year over year, it eased from 2.9% to 2.6%.
- 3:47SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 3:47SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 3:47SPEAKER_00: Well, look, I mean...
- 3:56SPEAKER_01: Maybe let's deal with the inflation first.
- 4:00SPEAKER_01: Kevin Horsch just gave his testimony before the Senate.
- 4:03SPEAKER_01: I guess that was what?
- 4:04SPEAKER_01: Later on the same day, right?
- 4:05SPEAKER_01: That was Tuesday.
- 4:06SPEAKER_00: Yep, Tuesday.
- 4:08SPEAKER_01: And he said all the right things.
- 4:11SPEAKER_01: He told the senators that the FOMC has, quote,
- 4:20SPEAKER_01: No tolerance for persistently elevated inflation,
- 4:24SPEAKER_01: you know, as though anyone thought that they might.
- 4:28SPEAKER_01: And going on from there,
- 4:32SPEAKER_01: I thought that what was interesting,
- 4:34SPEAKER_01: of course,
- 4:35SPEAKER_01: and what caused a lot of commentary is his stance,
- 4:40SPEAKER_01: which you know is very well known.
- 4:42SPEAKER_01: He's keeping with it that he's just not going to talk too much about inflation.
- 4:47SPEAKER_01: What the Fed's going to do or any dot plots or anything like that.
- 4:51SPEAKER_01: We know that Kevin Warsh thinks that it's better off if the markets adjust for themselves.
- 4:56SPEAKER_01: The problem,
- 4:57SPEAKER_01: of course,
- 4:58SPEAKER_01: is that markets inevitably are going to make some assumption about what
- 5:02SPEAKER_01: the Fed is going to do.
- 5:03SPEAKER_01: In other words, I'm not sure I quite understand.
- 5:09SPEAKER_01: What Warsh is trying to do?
- 5:12SPEAKER_01: Of course, there's a Fed, right?
- 5:15SPEAKER_01: And of course,
- 5:15SPEAKER_01: the markets are going to think,
- 5:17SPEAKER_01: gee, if this happens, then the Fed's going to react that way, right?
- 5:21SPEAKER_01: And when the Fed says nothing,
- 5:24SPEAKER_01: it doesn't mean that the markets aren't going to make an assumption.
- 5:28SPEAKER_01: It's just they're going to make an assumption on less information.
- 5:33SPEAKER_01: Now,
- 5:33SPEAKER_01: it is true that back in the days of the Jerome Powell Fed or the Yellen Fed or all
- 5:41SPEAKER_01: the feds going back,
- 5:44SPEAKER_01: that their sort of mealy-mouthed statements about how they were going to behave
- 5:51SPEAKER_01: or how they inclined didn't say a lot about what they would do
- 5:55SPEAKER_01: if something huge happened.
- 5:56SPEAKER_01: It was kind of limited.
- 5:59SPEAKER_01: But I'm not sure that it really helps for the Fed simply to say
- 6:04SPEAKER_00: absolutely nothing, right?
- 6:07SPEAKER_01: What I think that does is it just creates a greater
- 6:13SPEAKER_01: diversity of opinion in
- 6:15SPEAKER_01: the futures markets for the Fed funds, right?
- 6:17SPEAKER_01: I mean, if you go ahead now for 18 months, you just have a bigger spread, right?
- 6:21SPEAKER_01: I mean, who knows, right?
- 6:24SPEAKER_01: I really don't know.
- 6:26SPEAKER_01: You know, which may have already have it in his head that he's not going to raise rates at all.
- 6:30SPEAKER_01: Or maybe he's going to raise rates very freely.
- 6:33SPEAKER_01: Maybe he's about to raise.
- 6:34SPEAKER_01: I mean, we would not know.
- 6:36SPEAKER_01: I guess that's my point.
- 6:38SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure how that helps him.
- 6:41SPEAKER_01: He also said that a lot of what he's doing to overhaul Fed policy is needed because
- 6:49SPEAKER_01: the Fed's past policies were responsible for current inflation.
- 6:57SPEAKER_01: He said,
- 6:57SPEAKER_01: and I quote him here at the hearings,
- 6:59SPEAKER_01: the Fed changed its academic framework and its operational framework and it led
- 7:03SPEAKER_01: to higher prices,
- 7:05SPEAKER_01: which did more harm to the least well-off among us and so on and so on and so on.
- 7:10SPEAKER_01: That's why we have to reform it.
- 7:13SPEAKER_01: I actually think that the reason why the Fed's past policies,
- 7:18SPEAKER_01: particularly if you're talking about COVID, I think it was politics.
- 7:23SPEAKER_01: We've talked about that before, right?
- 7:27SPEAKER_01: It was President Biden that kept
- 7:32SPEAKER_01: Powell's renomination in limbo for practically
- 7:36SPEAKER_01: a year before he clearly had the support of the president to be renominated
- 7:43SPEAKER_01: And they finally broke the logjam in the Senate.
- 7:45SPEAKER_01: I remember that.
- 7:47SPEAKER_01: That was March of 2022.
- 7:49SPEAKER_01: And they had this whole furor over Sarah Bloom Raskin, who was going to be a climate conscious.
- 7:56SPEAKER_01: It's amazing to look back and think about what we were worried about back then.
- 8:00SPEAKER_01: We were worried about Fed policies for the poor.
- 8:04SPEAKER_01: We were worried about climate change.
- 8:05SPEAKER_01: I mean, inflation was soaring, right?
- 8:09SPEAKER_01: And for a while, President Biden wanted to have Lael Brainard, perhaps, instead of Powell.
- 8:20SPEAKER_01: And I think Powell rightly sensed that his only chance of being reappointed was Was
- 8:26SPEAKER_01: to soft pedal higher rates because if he started sounding hawkish,
- 8:34SPEAKER_01: the Democrats would,
- 8:35SPEAKER_01: you know, flack him even worse and Biden would choose another candidate.
- 8:41SPEAKER_01: I think that's why it happened.
- 8:43SPEAKER_01: Because as soon as that logjam broke in March and it looked like he was going
- 8:48SPEAKER_01: to be reconfirmed, boom,
- 8:50SPEAKER_01: suddenly Powell stopped mentioning transitory inflation
- 8:53SPEAKER_01: and suddenly you had all these hikes in the Fed funds rate.
- 8:56SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
- 8:57SPEAKER_01: It was like it just took off like a rocket, right?
- 9:00SPEAKER_01: It's like Powell had been liberated to do what he always knew he was going to do.
- 9:06SPEAKER_01: And I guess the reason I say that is because word seems to think
- 9:10SPEAKER_01: that Powell's problem is relying on,
- 9:14SPEAKER_01: you know, the wrong information and the wrong data.
- 9:17SPEAKER_01: I don't think that was it at all.
- 9:19SPEAKER_01: I think it was politics that hamstrung him and that paralyzed him and paralyzed
- 9:24SPEAKER_01: the Fed during that period.
- 9:27SPEAKER_01: And the public wasn't terribly concerned because everyone is getting...
- 9:31SPEAKER_01: Everyone was getting subsidized, you remember?
- 9:33SPEAKER_01: I mean, all the households were getting paid.
- 9:36SPEAKER_01: All the businesses were getting paid.
- 9:37SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we're worried about climate change.
- 9:39SPEAKER_01: We weren't worried about inflation.
- 9:41SPEAKER_01: It was a different era.
- 9:43SPEAKER_01: But that's what happened.
- 9:44SPEAKER_01: And I think Warsh is naive about the role of politics.
- 9:50SPEAKER_01: I think he is soon to be taught.
- 9:54SPEAKER_01: I think that his experience will soon teach him to be a
- 9:57SPEAKER_00: lot less naive.
- 9:59SPEAKER_01: The only other thing I can see in his statements,
- 10:01SPEAKER_01: he's still sanguine about AI impact on productivity.
- 10:06SPEAKER_01: And this, I think, is his closet agenda.
- 10:09SPEAKER_01: He's hinted at this.
- 10:09SPEAKER_01: He said, well,
- 10:10SPEAKER_01: because AI is going to do all this increase in productivity,
- 10:14SPEAKER_01: we may not have to raise rates because with all this new productivity,
- 10:19SPEAKER_01: right, we can keep rates low and be
- 10:27SPEAKER_01: And whatever money supply we have will be eaten up by all this new product we have.
- 10:33SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
- 10:34SPEAKER_01: I guess that's the idea.
- 10:35SPEAKER_01: I guess this has been shot down in multiple forums.
- 10:40SPEAKER_01: I think most people would agree that if we genuinely have a technology revolution,
- 10:46SPEAKER_01: we should expect higher real rates, not lower.
- 10:49SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 10:50SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 10:53SPEAKER_01: The increase in productivity is going to be a much longer-term phenomenon.
- 10:57SPEAKER_01: Every single technological revolution we're talking about is usually years,
- 11:03SPEAKER_01: not quarters, before we see that productivity payoff.
- 11:07SPEAKER_01: And it's usually,
- 11:08SPEAKER_01: on the other side,
- 11:09SPEAKER_01: we're talking about an enormous productivity boom like we're seeing with
- 11:15SPEAKER_01: the market soaring in these high-productivity sectors.
- 11:19SPEAKER_01: This vaunted new technology thesis that we now have,
- 11:23SPEAKER_01: like AI,
- 11:25SPEAKER_01: together with enormous investment in that sector,
- 11:28SPEAKER_01: this usually is accompanied by a boom and then a bust in financial prices, right?
- 11:34SPEAKER_01: We overinvest.
- 11:36SPEAKER_01: We overproduce a lot of these assets.
- 11:39SPEAKER_01: Eventually, we reach a new equilibrium.
- 11:41SPEAKER_01: And then ultimately, as time goes by, we have higher productivity levels.
- 11:46SPEAKER_01: This is completely the wrong timescale for the current inflation we're looking at.
- 11:50SPEAKER_01: Do you see what I mean?
- 11:51SPEAKER_01: I mean, we're looking right now at something about inflation now,
- 11:55SPEAKER_01: you know, the rest of the year.
- 11:57SPEAKER_01: I mean, talking about AI productivity that we might have by,
- 12:03SPEAKER_01: I don't know, 2029 and 2030 and the early 2030s, right?
- 12:07SPEAKER_01: I mean, think about the internet revolution.
- 12:09SPEAKER_01: Think of the dot-com.