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The Music The Story The Accent Its California Scheemin In Theaters With Samuel Bottomley · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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Speaker 1: Enjoy your exploration. Good morning, Samuel. How are you doing today?
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Speaker 2: I'm good, thank you. How are you, Arrow?
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Speaker 1: Fantastic. I have experienced this movie. I've got a billion questions.
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Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever show prepped for anybody. I mean,
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Speaker 1: this is more than I would do for Paul McCartney
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Speaker 1: because you have touched me with this movie. I love
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Speaker 1: what you have done with this movie. What was the
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Speaker 1: experience like for you on your side of it?
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Speaker 3: Oh, man, I absolutely loved every second of it, man.
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Speaker 3: Sometimes it was really difficult and like quite hot wearing
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Speaker 3: that wig sometimes. But man, if I could snap my
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Speaker 3: fingers and get back on set in Glasgow, I would
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Speaker 3: do without a doubt.
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Speaker 1: I got to tell you, how many people are going
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Speaker 1: to be asking you today, is this about Wham? Because
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Speaker 1: many times throughout, I kept thinking of George Michael and
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Speaker 1: Andrew Ridgely because they were so freaking huge. And then
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they were not together again. And
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Speaker 1: I felt that so much through this. Or maybe that
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Speaker 1: was just an easy comparison because of the storyline.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe.
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Speaker 3: I'm not too well educated on the Wham side of things, man.
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Speaker 2: So you'll have to be the judge of that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because, I mean, first of all, I love the
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Speaker 1: idea that you took the accents because being here in
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Speaker 1: the South, we deal with that all the time. And
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Speaker 1: the thing that makes me kind of laugh about that
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Speaker 1: is I always tell people, go be John Boy and
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Speaker 1: Billy because they've done quite well. And then you've got
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Speaker 1: Larry the Cable Guy who fakes a Southern accent and
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Speaker 1: does quite well. And it's like, this movie is just
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Speaker 1: so freaking real that I had to really keep diving
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Speaker 1: into it.
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Speaker 2: Oh, nice one, man. Whereabouts are you from?
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Speaker 1: What I loved about the film was, first of all,
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Speaker 1: the music. Please tell me that this is going to
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Speaker 1: be a soundtrack. There's going to be a soundtrack. I've
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Speaker 1: got to have this kind of rap because it really
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Speaker 1: is the kind. It's old school mixed in with a
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Speaker 1: modern day beat.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. I think you've hit the nail on the
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Speaker 3: head there, man. Hopefully there's going to be a soundtrack.
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Speaker 3: Me and Seamus went over to L.A. and recorded a
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Speaker 3: song of our own for the release of the tune, actually.
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Speaker 3: I think that's just dropped somewhere.
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Speaker 1: Does it, does it open up your imagination in the
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Speaker 1: way of saying, maybe I should try some of this
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Speaker 1: music a little bit harder and pull off maybe a
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Speaker 1: Johnny Depp? Cause it seems like Johnny's doing music now
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Speaker 1: and you, you yourself could be doing some stuff like that. Yeah, maybe, maybe.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I need to, I need to think probably
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Speaker 3: need to complete the acting thing first.
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Speaker 2: Before I start putting my eggs in other baskets. Like, but, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I'd love to do something like.
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Speaker 4: That, yeah.
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, I did cringe, though, in the
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Speaker 1: movie when both the guys agreed, yeah, we'll do it
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Speaker 1: for 35 grand. I looked at that screen like, I
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Speaker 1: want to be your manager right now because you're worth
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Speaker 1: more than 35 grand, you two knuckleheads.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, too true, man. We should have upped the stakes,
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Speaker 2: shouldn't we? Definitely.
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Speaker 1: I mean, because I mean, I mean, we've all been
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Speaker 1: in that moment where we want to be able to
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Speaker 1: be recognized for our art, for our singing. And you
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Speaker 1: guys were there. And I think that's what's going to
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Speaker 1: be the big draw and why people come to it
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Speaker 1: is because we feel like we want to be on
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Speaker 1: American Idol or America's Got Talent. And you guys are
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Speaker 1: doing this on the road and you're doing it in
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Speaker 1: the movie. And I'm going, oh, my God, I want
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Speaker 1: to be them so badly.
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Speaker 3: Good. Hopefully that's a contagious feeling that everyone takes away
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Speaker 3: from the cinema.
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Speaker 2: I hope so.
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Speaker 1: And you know, what's really interesting, Samuel, is that you
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Speaker 1: deal with the reality of the moment, too, because when
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Speaker 1: things start to turn in this story, I mean, it's
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Speaker 1: like we feel it as viewers. And that's great acting
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Speaker 1: on your behalf, because if you felt it when you
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Speaker 1: were delivering those lines, we're going to experience it on
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Speaker 1: this side.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I hope so. That just means I've done
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Speaker 2: my job well. I'm very, very grateful you said that.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: How did you have to prepare for that kind of thing?
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Speaker 1: Especially that scene when things really started, because I mean,
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Speaker 1: right there in the very beginning, I mean, even the
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Speaker 1: opening rap song sets viewers up. We get the tone
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Speaker 1: of it and then we're ready to score the big victory,
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Speaker 1: but then reality sets in as the actor. How do
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Speaker 1: you set up for that?
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I suppose it's like, it's, it's just
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Speaker 3: the same as life really, you know, like it's a rollercoaster.
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Speaker 3: One minute you're up here and the next minute you're
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Speaker 3: down there. And like, um, And I think that's like
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Speaker 3: something I cherish in a role, something that's not just
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Speaker 3: on the same.
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Speaker 2: Level, really.
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Speaker 3: We can go to different places as a character and
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Speaker 3: a performer and like stretch it out a little bit,
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Speaker 3: stretch it out as much as possible.
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Speaker 1: Well, I wish they would stretch out because, I mean,
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Speaker 1: here's the thing, when they typecast hip hop, And they
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Speaker 1: say that because you've got the Scottish accent that you're
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Speaker 1: not really what the global interest is going to be.
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Speaker 1: I called bullshit on that. I really did in the
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Speaker 1: movie because I would have accepted that. I didn't hear
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Speaker 1: anything different. I heard the storyline. I felt the beats.
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Speaker 1: And I just did not agree with those record reps
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Speaker 1: at all.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's the heart of our story.
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Speaker 3: It's about these guys were actually really, really talented, despite
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Speaker 3: them being like a couple of wacky guys and they
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Speaker 3: didn't really take themselves seriously. at the heart of it,
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Speaker 3: they have actually got what it takes, man.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I love the idea that they would bring
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Speaker 1: up Wu-Tang. I love the idea they brought up Eminem.
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Speaker 1: But what made them their own self, though? Because, I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's like I didn't compare them because they were themselves.
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Speaker 1: What do you think for this duo it was that
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Speaker 1: made them them?
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Speaker 3: I think the trust that they had in each other.
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Speaker 3: I mean, like, bouncing off each other like they did.
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Speaker 3: They were just like... As much as it's a story
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Speaker 3: about a lot of different things, it's a story about
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Speaker 3: brotherhood and trust and friendship. I think they had confidence
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Speaker 3: from each other just to bounce off each other because
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Speaker 3: if they did a rap that wasn't that good, they'd
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Speaker 3: just say, that's.
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Speaker 2: All right, man, that was rubbish, but we're right enough.
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Speaker 3: That sort of confidence that your best friend instills in you,
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Speaker 3: I think, got them that far.
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Speaker 1: The writers and producers knew exactly what they were doing
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Speaker 1: about that hip hop lifestyle, because if you're going to
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Speaker 1: live it and perform it, you've got to walk with it.
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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what they demonstrate in this movie is
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Speaker 1: that every frickin place you guys went, you were rapping
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Speaker 1: with something.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.
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Speaker 3: I mean, these guys had it in the DNA every
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Speaker 3: single day. They'd just wake up and it would it
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Speaker 3: would completely be their life, man. So there definitely was
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Speaker 3: there were veterans there.
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Speaker 1: What's so funny about the film and, and maybe I'm
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Speaker 1: the only one that's going to laugh about this. It
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Speaker 1: didn't take them too long to get into that rock
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Speaker 1: and roll lifestyle. I mean, come on that hotel room.
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Speaker 1: Holy God. I mean, that was like, I want that lifestyle.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: I mean, we didn't really want to leave that place either, man,
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Speaker 3: when we went on set.
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Speaker 2: That was a real set.
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Speaker 3: That was like the top floor of some building in Glasgow, man,
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Speaker 3: and that was like, yeah, definitely rock and roll vibes.
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Speaker 1: Was there anything inside your head going, I could get
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Speaker 1: used to this lifestyle, or do you kind of just
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Speaker 1: sit back going, this can also be a very dangerous
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Speaker 1: walk because music really can go in any direction?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think if I were them, I'd have
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Speaker 3: fallen into the same trap as well. I was staying
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Speaker 3: in a posh hotel last week, and I was there
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Speaker 3: for like three days, and after the third day.
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Speaker 2: I went down to reception, and I asked for softer pillows.
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Speaker 2: Can you imagine?
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Speaker 1: You're going to love this movie. It's called California Schemen,
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Speaker 1: starring Samuel Bottomley. We'll be right back. Hey, thanks for
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Speaker 1: coming back to the conversation. Let's get back into that
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Speaker 1: talk with Samuel Bottomley from the movie California Schemen. Are
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Speaker 1: you glad you do a movie like this? Because it
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Speaker 1: really seems like that we are screaming for a new
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Speaker 1: age of music genre. And this film right here opens
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Speaker 1: up that door to get us in sight as well
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Speaker 1: as sound. And so you're covering two different senses there.
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Speaker 3: Just as a performance wants to be well-rounded and not
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Speaker 3: just on one level, I suppose a The writing's got
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Speaker 3: to be like that as well, which is probably something
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Speaker 3: that interested me in taking part in the project.
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Speaker 1: When you were putting the character together and doing those
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Speaker 1: live scenes, now I know what it's like to use
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Speaker 1: vocal cords and to really push those lungs. How did
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Speaker 1: you have to protect that voice, A? And number two,
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Speaker 1: I usually come down with bronchitis or, man, they'll think
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Speaker 1: I've got pneumonia or something because I push those lungs
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Speaker 1: so hard.
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Speaker 2: Oh, man.
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Speaker 3: So, like, on the night of one of the biggest
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Speaker 3: performances that we had, Seamus had this, like, bong-looking thing
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Speaker 3: that he was, like, he was just, like, putting his
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Speaker 3: mouth around, and it was some sort of steamer for
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Speaker 3: his throat. Now, his mum and dad are in a
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Speaker 3: band called Deacon Blue, which is pretty big over in
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Speaker 3: the UK. So he, like, sort of knows about all
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Speaker 3: that voice-warming-up, like, stuff. I was, like, absolutely terrified that
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Speaker 3: I was going to lose my voice at one point.
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Speaker 2: We had to train our voices... to work alongside our bodies.
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Speaker 3: So I was going for like little, I was going
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Speaker 3: for jogs around Glasgow with my headphones in, rapping syllable
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Speaker 3: and brain songs just so that we can get the
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Speaker 3: physicality on stage and not be too tired and then
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Speaker 3: still get all the lines out. So I was like
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Speaker 3: running around Glasgow with my headphones in, rapping really loud.
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Speaker 3: You've got like old grannies on the corner of the
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Speaker 3: street thinking what's going.
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Speaker 4: On, you know?
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Speaker 1: And the thing about it is, dude, you had to
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Speaker 1: have known, oh my God, these guys are physical. These
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Speaker 1: aren't just lyrics of songs. It's the body talking to
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Speaker 1: those that are receiving the message.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 3: And these guys actually genuinely put their bodies on the line.
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Speaker 3: There's a scene where I smash a bottle over my
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Speaker 3: head on stage just to get the crowd to react
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Speaker 3: to something. And that's like a genuine story that these
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Speaker 3: guys did. The physicality of these guys were mental especially
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Speaker 3: Billy Billy's a big guy man and like they used
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Speaker 3: to bounce around on stage and give it the full
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Speaker 3: full beans for like 60 minutes which is it's not
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Speaker 3: an easy thing to do it's an easy thing to
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Speaker 3: watch but You underestimate it when you're on the other
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Speaker 3: side of the crowd, you know?
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Speaker 1: Dude, I got to tell you, being on that live stage,
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Speaker 1: we do do stupid things to get that crowd activated.
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Speaker 1: All I want to do is just get them reacquainted
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Speaker 1: to the situation. I've jumped off speakers. I've done really
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Speaker 1: stupid stuff that you look back on going, what were
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Speaker 1: you thinking? But you got to live it inside this movie.
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Speaker 3: Oh hell yeah and like we actually got to do
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Speaker 3: certain things like like crowd surfing and stuff like jumping
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Speaker 3: from the stage into the crowd is like something that
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Speaker 3: i've never done and probably never will get to do
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Speaker 3: again hopefully i do but like these little moments like
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Speaker 3: that that i'll just take away with me throughout the
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Speaker 3: rest of my life and always be grateful and like
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Speaker 3: the skateboarding and stuff like that there were so many
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Speaker 3: things that we got to do that we would never
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Speaker 3: have been able to do if we just had normal
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Speaker 3: normal we had a normal film film to do you.
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Speaker 1: Know Samuel, the importance of this movie is so grand
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Speaker 1: in the way that hip hop and even rap music
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Speaker 1: have gone on to change every genre of sound here
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Speaker 1: in 2026. So when you do a movie like this,
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's like you were there in that movie
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Speaker 1: scene in the way of being the shape of where
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Speaker 1: we were growing with music.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's a very early time for the
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Speaker 3: music scene.
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Speaker 2: Well, for the rap scene, really, it's like setting the notice.
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Speaker 3: So I mean, over in England especially, you had a
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Speaker 3: lot of guys that were, like, rapping in their American
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Speaker 3: accents or singing in American accents because that's all they'd heard,
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Speaker 3: rap in, you know, so they thought they had to
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Speaker 3: do that.
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Speaker 1: And it was authentic in the way of you guys
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Speaker 1: calling Island Records. I mean, I sat up straight. The
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Speaker 1: very mere mention of Island Records, because in that era,
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Speaker 1: Island Records was the thing to go. And maybe it's
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Speaker 1: because I've been in radio for all these decades. But
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Speaker 1: the thing about it is, though, and then for you
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Speaker 1: guys to be on the phone and then you say
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Speaker 1: you're from California, I thought, oh, my God, that is
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Speaker 1: an open door for more people to go and try
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Speaker 1: to do the same thing you guys just did.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why they didn't, to be fair.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so true. Yeah, because I've always wanted to dumb
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Speaker 1: down my resume. I always wanted to make it look
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Speaker 1: like I've never done a day of radio in my life.
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Speaker 1: And then somebody said, I got to hire this guy, man.
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Speaker 1: There's a chance for this dude.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, then your paycheck's not going to be what it's worth, though, either.
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Speaker 2: They're going to pay you first-time wages, aren't they?
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Speaker 1: When you guys were putting together the scene where the
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Speaker 1: guy goes, oh, you're the guy that kissed the donkey.
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Speaker 1: Come on, that's comedy right there. Did you guys bust
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Speaker 1: a good gut? I mean, because you don't hear that
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Speaker 1: in a movie, and I didn't expect that from that
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Speaker 1: dude at all.
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Speaker 3: Yeah you kiss the donkey and it ended so many
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Speaker 3: there's so many other cool lines in that little sequence
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Speaker 3: as well where he's on about.
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Speaker 4: A fat man shat himself in the back of the
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Speaker 4: homer yeah yeah I was a whole like luckily I
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Speaker 4: was off the stage like a couple steps back because
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Speaker 4: I was like giggling behind camera and these guys had
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Speaker 4: to these guys had to keep.
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Speaker 2: A straight face while they were doing that man that's
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Speaker 2: so funny.
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Speaker 1: Now, how do you guys handle a word like scheming?
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Speaker 1: Because in reality, the new generation today is going to go,
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Speaker 1: I dig that word scheming. But when I was a kid,
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Speaker 1: scheming was what are you guys scheming? What are you
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Speaker 1: up to? It was almost like that word where we
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Speaker 1: were about ready to get busted for something. But you
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Speaker 1: guys made it sound fun and you brought it to
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Speaker 1: life in a fun way.
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Speaker 3: Yeah man but it's still at the core of its
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Speaker 3: meaning is the exact same thing like we're walking on
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Speaker 3: thin ice here we're doing something we shouldn't really do
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Speaker 3: we're scheming we've got.
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Speaker 2: A scheme we've got a plot we've got a plan.
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Speaker 3: And it all comes crashing down eventually as most schemes
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Speaker 3: do there's a bit of double meaning over in Scotland
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Speaker 3: You know, like you get like the projects over in America,
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Speaker 3: you get like schemes over in Scotland. So it's like
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Speaker 3: a little bit of a double meaning, like a scheme
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Speaker 3: is like a council of state project sort of place,
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Speaker 3: you know.
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Speaker 2: So it's got like a little bit of a cool
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Speaker 2: double meaning there as well.
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Speaker 1: Well, see, I'm glad that you shared that, and the
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Speaker 1: reason why, because there are so many times, because you
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Speaker 1: know how we crazy-ass Americans are, we'll come up with
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Speaker 1: a phrase or a saying, and then you do the research,
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Speaker 1: and you guys had it before us, and it's a
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Speaker 1: completely different definition. So, yeah, thank you for sharing that,
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Speaker 1: because it opens up my eyes as to what scheming
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Speaker 1: is doing around the world. Yeah. How do you go
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Speaker 1: to the next movie after you've had this movie? I mean,
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Speaker 1: it was physical. It was fun. It was funny. It
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Speaker 1: was energetic. People are going to be talking about it.
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Speaker 1: What comes up next?
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Speaker 3: Oh, that's a great question because it's like, you can
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Speaker 3: kind of die happy after doing a film like this
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Speaker 3: and not a lot of, it's going to, it's going
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Speaker 3: to take us some hell of a film to contend
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Speaker 3: with the fun that we had on this film.
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Speaker 2: But I suppose you've got to find a pocket of
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Speaker 2: happiness in every sort of thing you do. You know
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Speaker 2: what I mean? And there's always different challenges that are
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Speaker 2: quite fun as well.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, working with Michael Voy and the
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Speaker 3: great cast and crew we had and then getting to
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Speaker 3: be like Scottish hip hop rappers is, it's a one
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Speaker 3: and only time experience, I think.
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Speaker 1: Speaking of that experience, did you have to tap into
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Speaker 1: the experiences of James? Because he openly admits that he
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Speaker 1: grew up watching this kind of rap music. I mean,
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Speaker 1: with him being in control, does it really open up
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Speaker 1: the door for you guys to say, all right, we
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Speaker 1: got it. We're going to make this exactly what you're envisioning.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, there's a lot of pressure to deliver because,
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Speaker 3: you know, first of all, we've got James McAvoy looking
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Speaker 3: at us, you know. But that also kind of gives
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Speaker 3: you the confidence and the fuel, you know. You know,
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Speaker 3: when you can see him looking at the monitor and
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Speaker 3: he's got a big smile on his face and he's
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Speaker 3: got his thumbs up, that gives you sort of the
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Speaker 3: boost and the energy that we needed to be these big,
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Speaker 3: larger-than-life characters, you know?
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Speaker 2: But, yeah, I mean, we all sort of grew up... Like,
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Speaker 2: we all grew up in the shadow of America, do
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? So you've got all these
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Speaker 2: films and this media, this... rap, country music and all
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Speaker 2: these different sort.
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Speaker 3: Of things that come over the pond, we absorb them
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Speaker 3: quite well, you know, but we're not actually a part
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Speaker 3: of them. So it's like a weird, strange sort of
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Speaker 3: feeling that we have towards them. But yeah, definitely felt
16:09
Speaker 3: like we had to give it our best shot for McAvoy, man,
16:11
Speaker 3: and what a legend he is, you know.
16:13
Speaker 1: I got to give you a compliment on something, and
16:15
Speaker 1: people are definitely going to be talking about this. When
16:17
Speaker 1: James is on the same scene as you, I got
16:20
Speaker 1: to be telling you, I was looking toward you. My
16:23
Speaker 1: eyes left James. He's already magnetic, but I was more
16:26
Speaker 1: into your reaction as to what was going on. That
16:30
Speaker 1: says a lot about the way you put your heart
16:32
Speaker 1: and energy into your character.
16:33
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you very much, man. That means the world
16:37
Speaker 3: because he's an absolute legend. Just to share a scene
16:39
Speaker 3: with him is good enough, you know?
16:43
Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about you?
16:46
Speaker 1: Because I want them to understand your journey and to
16:48
Speaker 1: support you as you grow forward with your acting. And
16:51
Speaker 1: I'm praying that you do more music.
16:55
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, man. Well, I'm not too sure.
16:58
Speaker 3: I mean, I've got a couple of things coming out
17:00
Speaker 3: in the next year or so. So I suppose head
17:03
Speaker 3: over to IMDB, Instagram, sort of keep in touch with
17:07
Speaker 3: me there. But hopefully people will have to go.
17:10
Speaker 2: Looking for me. They'll see me on the screen sometime soon.
17:14
Speaker 1: And I hope that throughout the day today, I know
17:15
Speaker 1: people may bring it up. They may compare you a
17:18
Speaker 1: little bit to Milli Vanilli. I've been with those guys.
17:20
Speaker 1: They're singing. They're doing their thing today. It's almost like
17:23
Speaker 1: you guys in this movie up the game in the
17:25
Speaker 1: way of saying, no, we really were singing. We really
17:28
Speaker 1: were doing our thing. And that's what I love about
17:30
Speaker 1: this is that you can hit a mountain, but you
17:32
Speaker 1: can still move through it. And that's what this movie
17:34
Speaker 1: is about.
17:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, 100%, man, not being stopped, sticking it to the man,
17:39
Speaker 3: all that sort of business, man, definitely.
17:42
Speaker 1: Wow, you've got to come back to this show any
17:43
Speaker 1: time in the future, man. 20 minutes with you is
17:45
Speaker 1: never going to be enough.
17:48
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Harold, man. Same to you. I
17:50
Speaker 2: hope we meet again sometime. I love your picture.
17:53
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you so much. It's all about acting. You
17:56
Speaker 1: know what that's all about. You've got to get that
17:58
Speaker 1: shot where people go, what the hell is that?
18:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a brilliant head shot. That's a brilliant head shot, man.
18:03
Speaker 1: I love it. Will you be brilliant today, okay, sir?
18:07
Speaker 2: Thank you, Andrew, sir.
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Speaker 3: Good.
18:09
Speaker 2: Have a good day.