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- 0:02The firm accused for suppressing Bitcoin for the past six months
- 0:06was just revealed as being one of the biggest buyers over that
- 0:10time frame, and it wasn't JP Morgan.
- 0:13The truth about Wall Street's attempted Bitcoin takeover just
- 0:17got even more insane. Really.
- 0:20Never trust what Wall Street says.
- 0:22Just watch what they do and you will get all the signal.
- 0:25But before I get into this story, I do want to set the
- 0:28stage with this clip from Samson Mao, which I think fully
- 0:32explains where we currently are in the cycle.
- 0:35Well, I've always maintained that it is inevitable that banks
- 0:39and even countries will get into Bitcoin because they just want
- 0:43what is valuable. They cannot dictate what is
- 0:46valuable to the world. That is the the crux of the Fiat
- 0:50experiment that they try to dictate that paper is valuable.
- 0:55They managed to get there and the majority of the world does
- 0:58believe that paper or even the virtualization of that paper in
- 1:02your bank account is money. And I think that illusion is
- 1:05starting to shatter. But the point I'm trying to make
- 1:07is that these large centralized institutions cannot maintain
- 1:11that forever. Money is dictated by everybody
- 1:14in the world, right? We decide what is valuable.
- 1:17But I think that's another thing people have to think about,
- 1:19especially Bitcoin, is that you have to think adversarially that
- 1:23everyone wants your Bitcoin. If Bitcoin is the most valuable
- 1:27asset in the world, then everyone's going to want to get
- 1:31it. And the only way to get it is to
- 1:34play some psychological game unless they can.
- 1:37Unless you're paper handed, lettuce handed, you know, and it
- 1:42really eager to sell, to take a Fiat profit, you're going to
- 1:45hold that asset, right? So the only way is to wage
- 1:48psychological warfare. And that can be done, you know,
- 1:51through public statements or through market suppression of
- 1:54Bitcoin and keeping the price low to break your spirit.
- 1:58So I think you have to think adversarially that everyone is
- 2:01running a sigh up on you. All the big financial
- 2:03institutions, they want your Bitcoin and they're going to
- 2:05tell you Bitcoin is bad to your face while they buy it from you
- 2:09when you sell it. Everyone is running a sigh up on
- 2:13you. They all want your Bitcoin.
- 2:15I've been saying this has basically been the process since
- 2:19Wall Street got into Bitcoin, since the institution got in.
- 2:22And it really started to make sense to me when we, you know,
- 2:26started to crash from the 126 high.
- 2:28I'm like, dude, you know, maybe Nico's right, maybe it was the
- 2:32cycle theory playing out, but with all the good news, you just
- 2:36start to wonder is like, are they are they trying to get
- 2:38Bitcoin at a discount? Well, guess what guys, It has
- 2:42been revealed in the 13 FSEC filings that this is exactly
- 2:46what's going on. So what am I talking about here?
- 2:48We have zero hedge highlighting this and they go you'll never
- 2:51guess who bought the second most.
- 2:53I bit the Bitcoin ETF, the BlackRock Bitcoin ETF and Q4.
- 2:57So let's zoom in here. Who?
- 3:00Who is the name right here? Who is the #2 ibit buyer in Q4?
- 3:07It is Jane Street. Now, remember, we've been
- 3:11covering this idea as you know, if you've been watching the
- 3:14Bitcoin price, Bitcoin basically crashes or has been crashing
- 3:19since around October. You know, it happened in
- 3:22October, it happens in November. It's it's been the past couple
- 3:25of months that almost like clockwork at the open of the
- 3:29markets at US time around 9:10 AM in the morning, you get this
- 3:33huge dump on Bitcoin. And there was, you know, some
- 3:36investigative journalism going on, on, on, sorry, on Twitter,
- 3:40basically showing that this is seemingly James St. coming out
- 3:44here. And they're market makers, one
- 3:47of the biggest market makers on Wall Street.
- 3:49And like again, like clockwork, they probably have the algorithm
- 3:53set. They're just dumping the Bitcoin
- 3:55price at the exact same time. Even when we knew it was going
- 3:59to happen, they, you know, overpower us with liquidity.
- 4:03They dump it at 9:10 AM every morning, almost every morning
- 4:07some days. They take days off for the most
- 4:09part. If you're looking at the markets
- 4:11opening, 9 AM, 10 AM, first hour of the markets, Bitcoin was
- 4:16gonna tank. We've been seeing this play out.
- 4:18It was a rinse and repeat process and a lot of people were
- 4:22speculating that, oh, this is Wall Street just trying to
- 4:25suppress the price of Bitcoin. When I came out on the show and
- 4:28was talking about this, I started making the case that I
- 4:31don't think it's them just wanting to quote UN quote, kill
- 4:34Bitcoin here. It's not that they're trying to
- 4:36get Bitcoin to zero. I think what they were trying to
- 4:38do was essentially lower, you know, the price of Bitcoin so
- 4:41that they can start accumulating Bitcoin.
- 4:43That is the smartest move to make.
- 4:45If you understand that Bitcoin is unstoppable, if you
- 4:48understand that there is a paradigm shift going from the
- 4:51analog world to the digital world and Bitcoin's not going
- 4:54away. As the saying always goes, it's
- 4:56either going to $1,000,000 or it's going to zero.
- 4:59And most of us know it is not going to zero.
- 5:02Well, what do they do? They're like, hey, first year,
- 5:04we can actually get into this. Let's get a good discount on it.
- 5:08Remember, Wall Street essentially got into Bitcoin at
- 5:12100K price Mark. That is their entry point and I
- 5:16think they're really enjoying this 50% discount on Bitcoin
- 5:20because they are accumulating Bitcoin or paper Bitcoin through
- 5:23the I bit ETF. But let's go a little further
- 5:26here. You know, here's some responses
- 5:29of of what are they doing and this is a pretty good one.
- 5:33He goes James St. was accused of putting pressure on Bitcoin
- 5:36during U.S. market openings. But being the second largest
- 5:38buyer on Ibane Q4 shows how the game is really played.
- 5:41They control the price and strengthen their position with a
- 5:44classic sell low buy lower strategy.
- 5:47Wonder what else will witness and it that's that's what's
- 5:51playing out. If you feel demoralized.
- 5:54I know, I know we got a little demoralized on the show.
- 5:56We're like, it's going up. How long is this bear market
- 5:58going to happen? I even was like, at this point,
- 6:01can we just tank the price to whatever the lows is going to
- 6:04be? So we know where we're going so
- 6:07we can stack cheap sets and then get the game going because we
- 6:10know it's not going to stay down forever.
- 6:12But this kind of sitting in limbo area, you know, this
- 6:16sitting in limbo psychological toll that we're dealing with
- 6:19that we've been dealing with for over a year.
- 6:22We're I think we're just all bored to death.
- 6:24And, and obviously, as the Samson Mao video explained, that
- 6:28is the point of all of this. If we were all disappointed in
- 6:312025 when we were supposed to have a parabolic run and we're
- 6:36in the first two months of this year, 2026 and we're all still
- 6:39feeling disappointed and demoralized.
- 6:42Yes, on the one hand, obviously we get cheap sats, we get cheap
- 6:46Bitcoin, we get it on discount. On the other hand, we're
- 6:50basically back to 2021 highs. It's like it's been 4 years, all
- 6:54games have been, you know, erased and we're like what is
- 6:58going on? Something has fundamentally
- 7:00changed since the institutions got in.
- 7:03Well, no surprise, Wall Street is playing Wall Street games
- 7:07here. They understand how valuable
- 7:10this Bitcoin is. Even if they say it's not, even
- 7:13if they go out there and say, hey, you know, I would stay away
- 7:15from this. It's too volatile, it's too
- 7:17risky. What do they used to say?
- 7:19Index of money laundering, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
- 7:22What are they actually doing? They are accumulating a larger
- 7:26position in Bitcoin. Now, the intricacies of this is
- 7:31where things do get a little interesting because you're
- 7:33probably asking yourself, it's like, OK, you know, James St.
- 7:36they're just selling Bitcoin, but what are they really doing?
- 7:39Because then they're accumulating Bitcoin.
- 7:41Obviously you get cheap Bitcoin, but when you understand the
- 7:44mechanics of this, you understand that they're making a
- 7:46boatload of money whether the price goes up or the price goes
- 7:50down. So I have a good thread.
- 7:52It's over Bros. No, it is not over, Bros.
- 7:56I have a good thread kind of breaking down the mechanics
- 7:58here. I don't want to really read the
- 8:00whole thing, but there is, you know, there's some signal in
- 8:04this. So smart money crypto, which you
- 8:07know his name, it's probably an oxymoron.
- 8:10You're not smart money if you're in crypto, you're smart money if
- 8:13you're all in Bitcoin. But anyways, here is his
- 8:16breakdown of this. And I, I think this is probably
- 8:19what's going on or rather I'm, I'm like 99% sure that this is
- 8:22exactly what's going on. James St. pushes the price down
- 8:25or other Wall Street market makers, as we've seen, you know,
- 8:29we were, we were definitely saying that JP Morgan crashed
- 8:32the price because they were fighting strategy.
- 8:35And then miraculously a couple of days later, once it hits the,
- 8:38I believe it was the November kind of low, they announced
- 8:42their own Bitcoin back loan products.
- 8:44So again, they're basically getting the regulatory clarity
- 8:48to get into Bitcoin or crypto, whatever you want to say.
- 8:51And then they launch their Bitcoin products at the Lowe's.
- 8:56They accumulate the coin. And then now we will probably
- 9:00start seeing the tide shifting when they are all actually got
- 9:04their bags filled, when they're all in a position that they feel
- 9:07comfortable about. The market makers will flip this
- 9:10from shorting it from suppressing the Bitcoin price to
- 9:12letting it run and then of course pushing it up and doing
- 9:15the same techniques to get the price higher.
- 9:18So again, James St. pushes the price down at the same time by
- 9:21millions of shares. Here's the full story.
- 9:23Again, I broke this down every morning at around 10:00 AM.
- 9:27Nine to 10 AM is usually when it happens.
- 9:29The same exact thing happens. Bitcoin pumps during the Asia
- 9:33sessions. Europe keeps pushing, everything
- 9:35looks good, then the US markets open and within minutes the
- 9:39price drops like someone flipped the switch, liquidating or
- 9:42cascading liquidations. Retail gets flushed out and
- 9:46everyone, we've basically been tracking this for months.
- 9:48We've all been talking about this.
- 9:50We've all been seeing this happen.
- 9:51The 10 AM slam, basically when the US markets open, we get
- 9:55cooked. Now when you looked at the 13 F
- 9:58filings, obviously yesterday we mentioned that it's not just
- 10:02Wall Street institutions that are accumulating Bitcoin.
- 10:04We're seeing sovereign wealth funds accumulate Bitcoin.
- 10:06We're seeing a lot of good rhetoric around Bitcoin.
- 10:10We're guessing and speculating that probably the US government
- 10:13is also part of the stacking Bitcoin.
- 10:15It's all a little too coincidental to not put your
- 10:18tinfoil hat on to not be like, yeah, they want to get the
- 10:21Bitcoin price 50% off, get themselves a good position, and
- 10:25then the fun will happen. So again, James St. one of the
- 10:28biggest market makers on the planet, It's not a hedge fund.
- 10:30They're not a speculator. They're a liquidity provider.
- 10:33They stand between the buyer and the seller and make money on the
- 10:36spread. So they're making money either
- 10:39way. But at the same time, while they
- 10:41make their money, they slam the Bitcoin price.
- 10:43They're accumulating Bitcoin on the back end as well.
- 10:46In India, the exchange regulator, the Sebby, has
- 10:49already sanctioned them for manipulative trading and
- 10:51derivatives. This is on record.
- 10:53And now the numbers. Q4 of 2025, they added 7.1
- 10:57million ibit shares. Their total position now is 20.3
- 11:00million shares valued at around $790 million.
- 11:05They're also the 4th largest IBIT holder worldwide.
- 11:08And in that one single quarter, they added 54% of their
- 11:14position. So the price of Bitcoin went
- 11:16down about 50% and they added about 50% gained on their
- 11:21position. Tell me I'm crazy.
- 11:24Tell me I'm seeing things here. But it sounds a little too
- 11:27coincidental for me. So the play.
- 11:29But James St. doesn't operate on on chain.
- 11:32They trade through ETF flows, which makes them almost
- 11:36invisible to normal tracking tools.
- 11:37But the mechanics are simple. When you're the market maker for
- 11:40the biggest Bitcoin ETF in the world, you control the order
- 11:43flow. You see where the liquidity
- 11:45sits, you know where the stop losses are.
- 11:48And so you drive the price there so that you can make even more
- 11:52money. And when you push the price into
- 11:54those those zones, you see the cascading liquidations that
- 11:57we've been watching, that we've been covering for you guys on
- 12:00the show. And then of course, you get
- 12:02cheaper entry prices, you get a bigger bite of the pie.
- 12:06This is what's happening. Now.
- 12:08We know for a fact that this is what's happening.
- 12:10We were speculating. We had a feeling, we had a gut
- 12:12level feeling that this was happening.
- 12:15And now the SEC filings, the 13 F filings show us that in fact,
- 12:18this is what is happening. Of course, you rinse and repeat
- 12:22until that playbook doesn't work anymore, until those tools don't
- 12:25work anymore. And of course, they're not the
- 12:28only ones doing this. There's other players in in in
- 12:30the markets, of course, whether it's the Goldman Sachs, the JP
- 12:33Morgans, the sovereign wealth funds, maybe even the US
- 12:37government or other nation states around the world.
- 12:39And of course there's other market makers out there.
- 12:41The game is the same as what I've been telling you guys for a
- 12:44while. They want your Bitcoin, They're
- 12:47doing whatever they can to liquidate us, to demoralize us.
- 12:51And if you kind of connect this with the river graphics that we
- 12:54were showing you yesterday, about 600 + 1000 coins have left
- 12:59individuals hands and have ended up in the Bitcoin treasury
- 13:03companies, in the corporate balance sheets, in sovereign
- 13:08wealth funds. They're dude, they're literally
- 13:11cooking retail right now. Most people are getting cooked
- 13:15right now. They're asleep at the wheel
- 13:17like. A like a slow cook like a.
- 13:19Slow. Cook like a grill.
- 13:20Like a like a smoker, like a like a good brisket getting
- 13:24smoked. Y'all are getting smoked right
- 13:27now. All right.
- 13:28So anyways, last thing for everyone else, there's one
- 13:31simple rule. Oh wait, actually let me let me
- 13:33do this top one. This one's better.
- 13:35So my read when the world's biggest liquidity providers are
- 13:37doubling their Bitcoin position while retail gets bled out every
- 13:40morning, that's not a broken market.
- 13:42That's a market working exactly as designed for the people who
- 13:45designed it. For everyone else, there is one
- 13:48simple rule. If you're trading with leverage
- 13:50around the US open time, you're not the player, you're the
- 13:53product. Your stop losses are the entry
- 13:56prices. The positions keep growing, the
- 13:59patterns keep running and retail keeps staring at red candles
- 14:02every morning morning at 10 O one guys, it's playing out
- 14:07exactly as this, like a four year BBQ.
- 14:10Exactly. Shinko Nakamoto gets it guys.
- 14:14Everything you've been feeling has now been fully confirmed.
- 14:18Yes, maybe the four year cycle is still on exactly as we all
- 14:21knew. Maybe it's not going to go as
- 14:23low as we thought it was, but they literally, you know, leaned
- 14:29into the narratives. Everyone thought there was going
- 14:32to be a four year cycle. So what do they do?
- 14:35They they crash the market. They make their money on the
- 14:38spread. They continue to crash the
- 14:41market at the US market opens, but at the same time, they're
- 14:44not just trying to crash the market so that the price of
- 14:47Bitcoin goes to 0. They're trying to get a better
- 14:50price entry into Bitcoin. They're trying to accumulate
- 14:54more Bitcoin. So this is where they think
- 14:56they're going to get their power from is by accumulating or
- 14:58concentrating more of the pie into the Wall Street hand, which
- 15:02is what I've been telling you has been happening for months
- 15:04now. It was a gut feeling.
- 15:06It was a speculative feeling. It was an intuitive feeling on
- 15:09my end. It's like this is this just
- 15:11makes sense to me. This is, this is just Wall
- 15:14Street games playing out. Now I have the data to show you
- 15:17guys that this is in fact going on, that all this, you know,
- 15:21demoralization, all this boredom that we've been feeling is going
- 15:25exactly to their plan. Again, I've said this in the
- 15:28past, retail is no longer in control of the Bitcoin price.
- 15:33For better or worse, that's just what's happening.
- 15:36So you can either try to fight the tsunami coming or you do the
- 15:39same thing. Maybe you don't have, or rather
- 15:42we don't have the tools to be market makers to, you know, see
- 15:46in the order books to know where the stop losses are, to know
- 15:49where the equity is sitting. But we can still do the same
- 15:52thing, which is acquire more Bitcoin, which is the whole
- 15:56point of the show. This is the whole point of us
- 15:58coming here every single day. Yes, some days we're a little
- 16:01more negative than others. Some days I'm just full bull
- 16:04tard hopium, but the game is still the same.
- 16:08I've been saying this for years. It's a game of Pac-Man.
- 16:10It's a game of Hungry Hippo. The name of the game is
- 16:13accumulation, and Wall Street is figuring out that game
- 16:17themselves, though they have a lot more tools to get it get
- 16:20Bitcoin at the entry they want. It's clear as day that this is
- 16:24happening. Nico and I've been talking about
- 16:27it on the show. We've even had, you know,
- 16:29friends tell us that are, you know, not just Youtubers
- 16:33basically said this is exactly what's happening.
- 16:35They're rinsing, repeating this process.
- 16:37Don't get shaken out, just continue to accumulate.
- 16:40It's clear as day now, guys, this is what's happening.
- 16:43This is the game exposed. Wall Street is here.
- 16:46They're playing Wall Street algorithm games and they are
- 16:50trying to, you know, get a bigger, bigger share of the pie.
- 16:54They're they're getting more shares of I bit I'm guessing
- 16:57some of them are probably getting spot Bitcoin themselves.
- 17:00But here's the game loud and clear.
- 17:02This is what's happening. So play the game as well.
- 17:04Accumulate Bitcoin, continue to buy Bitcoin, don't stop buying
- 17:07Bitcoin. And and for for the love of God,
- 17:11do not sell your entire stack right now because you think it's
- 17:14going to go lower, because I'm sure at a certain point this is
- 17:18going to they're going to flip the switch and it's going to go
- 17:20in the exact opposite direction. So enough, enough of me ranting,
- 17:25Nico. Did we finally, finally expose
- 17:28the game out there? Are we finally vindicated it?
- 17:32It only took about two months. I mean, I don't know, man.
- 17:37Like things are just kind of like things have been weird.
- 17:41That's that's all I got to say. Things have been weird since the
- 17:45approval of the ETFs and it's a different market.
- 17:51And for better for what? Wait, wait, wait, someone goes
- 17:54acquire more with what? Things have been weird, bro.
- 18:00It's a different market, Opti. I know you feel it.
- 18:03The vibes are different, the feelings are different, the
- 18:05commodity is different. What commodity?
- 18:09There's no there's no lab. There's no community lab.
- 18:12It's. Non existent bro.
- 18:13It's it's so things have changed, you know, and that's
- 18:16one of the things that worries me about this cycle.
- 18:19We showed you guys a graphic from River Financial yesterday
- 18:22on yesterday's show. Yeah, maybe, maybe let me let me
- 18:25pull it up real quick. Basically, you had a net loss of
- 18:31600,000 Bitcoin leaving from the hands of individuals into the
- 18:37hands of governments, ETFs and businesses.
- 18:42And I also think that they're like Bitcoin took a a giant
- 18:47reputational hit as well, I would say.
- 18:51And that reputational hit is basically this perception that
- 18:57Bitcoin is not for. This perception that Bitcoin is
- 19:05not for, you know, it, it, it's not for, like it's not living up
- 19:11to the digital gold narrative. Like there, that perception is
- 19:15really strong and, and you know, last year really didn't help the
- 19:21case at all whatsoever. So, you know, I think things
- 19:25have have changed, man. Like that's, that's my, my take
- 19:29on this. But I mean, we've been harping
- 19:31on this exact subject for like 6 months now.
- 19:33Like things have changed. Now the question that I think is
- 19:38on everybody's mind is where does this narrative go from
- 19:44here? I think that's like the the
- 19:46million sack question because you know, as we head into 2026
- 19:50and then 2027, every single cycle there's a different
- 19:54narrative, There's a different vibe, right?
- 19:57You know, 2017 it was the retail vibe. 2021 it was like the layer
- 20:03one shit coin vibe. And then 2025 was the was the
- 20:10Bitcoin treasury company vibes and the paper Bitcoin summer
- 20:15vibes. So what is the next vibe?
- 20:19That's what I want to know. Like that's really the big
- 20:22question. That's really what everyone has
- 20:25at. That's really what everyone has
- 20:28top of mind. But I will tell you something
- 20:31though, guys like these, these bear markets have a way of
- 20:36basically resetting the tone and like remember reminding a lot of
- 20:41us as to why we are here in the first place.
- 20:44And I think that this bear market's no different.
- 20:47Like I think This is why we're here.
- 20:49This is, we got to remember, I think that revolutionary fire
- 20:53that we had in the early days of Bitcoin, you know, in the
- 20:5620/17/2018 era, that's gone, it's not, doesn't exist anymore.
- 21:03And you know, Bitcoin is just becoming another financial asset
- 21:08in the eyes of the world. And you know, we have to
- 21:11remember the fundamentals. We have to remember why we are
- 21:14here. We have to remember why we came
- 21:17here. What what was the purpose of us
- 21:19coming here, of us buying Bitcoin, of us putting Bitcoin
- 21:23into self custody? We really wanted to change the
- 21:26world for the better. I remember Andreas Antonopoulos,
- 21:29his epic lectures about, you know, how Bitcoin was
- 21:33essentially going to challenge, you know, the global bar banking
- 21:37cartel. And now it's basically like, oh
- 21:40bro, I hope the global banking cartel buys our bags like that.
- 21:45That's really what it's become. That's really what it's become,
- 21:48you know, so I hope we go back to, you know, the the basic
- 21:55principles, the basic ethos of Bitcoin because that's why we're
- 21:59here. That's what's going to change
- 22:00the world. And you know, I, I want to move,
- 22:04I want to move back in that direction.
- 22:05We won't be back until Nico Jones comes back every single
- 22:08day. I mean, I, I, I, I am back.
- 22:12I I went Nico Jones. Yeah, on yesterday's show, this
- 22:15low energy guy is not Nico Jones.
- 22:18Is is this? Is this Is this?
- 22:20Is this Suitcoin Jones? I mean, you're wearing a
- 22:23financial vest right now, so yeah.
- 22:25I love hive, I don't know what you're talking about.
- 22:27I there's nothing about Hive, it's more about the best you got
- 22:31the you got the uniform on. I thought it was comfortable.
- 22:33I thought it was very comfortable.
- 22:35I thought it was a very comfortable.
- 22:36You know, I needed a sweater today and I I need.
- 22:39Nico in a hoodie ranting about you know what?
- 22:43What was the Alex Jones interdimensional Aileen?
- 22:48Dude, I'm getting Boomer. I'm getting Boomer.
- 22:51Nico, not Nico Jones. OK.
- 22:54I I got to get Nico on coffee or something because we got to get
- 22:57the energy up. We got to get the.
- 22:59Energy. As you can tell, Nico is totally
- 23:01demoralized by the price action. So Wall Street is doing exactly
- 23:05what they're what you know, their plan is working out
- 23:07exactly as planned because Nico's over here demoralized.
- 23:11No, no. No, OK, so let's let's do it.
- 23:13Let's actually no, no, no. OK, let's talk about it.
- 23:16OK, so this last cycle was a fucking scam.
- 23:19All right, let's just start off with that basis.
- 23:22I think we can all agree on that, right?
- 23:25We never got the euphoric glue off top that Bitcoin normally
- 23:29gives. And that obviously leaves a lot,
- 23:33you know, to it. It it it took a lot of people's
- 23:37expectations and it crushed it into tiny atoms, right?
- 23:41So right now, Bitcoin is kind of in this uncharted territory,
- 23:48which I've been saying for the last couple days, which I think
- 23:51is a good thing and not a bad thing, and I'll get to that in a
- 23:53second. But we have been living off this
- 23:57high for the last three years, and this high was basically
- 24:01Bitcoin's going to win no matter what.
- 24:04It's 100% with 100% certainty. That was the general consensus
- 24:10in the Bitcoin community that really that's what it was since
- 24:14the bottom of the last bear market, which Michael Saylor
- 24:17admitted yesterday. We're in a bear market.
- 24:19Finally. The first time he admitted to
- 24:21it. Dude Waters.
- 24:22Wet, he said. He said crypto winter, right?
- 24:26But look, the the matter of a fact is, is that we have not
- 24:31experienced this since 2022, right?
- 24:36So it's been like 3 to 4 years since we've been in a bear
- 24:40market. We don't know what this, this
- 24:43feels like anymore. We have forgotten what this
- 24:46feels like. Now add to the pain is the fact
- 24:50that we never got a euphoric top.
- 24:53So we waited from 2021 to 2025 to basically get a taste of
- 25:01kissing the dragon and. It was horrible.
- 25:06It was, it was. It was a tease.
- 25:08It was like we had a euphoric feeling.
- 25:11The price action really didn't really match that and now we're
- 25:15heading into, you know, Bitcoins kind of corrective measure and
- 25:19stuff like that, which Bitcoin always does.
- 25:21A lot of things that people are not talking about as well is
- 25:24that a lot of these treasury companies took a lot of the
- 25:27alpha away. So instead of of people buying
- 25:30spot Bitcoin and putting that into self custody and then a lot
- 25:35of that going into the price going parabolic, a lot of that
- 25:39alpha went into the Bitcoin treasury company.
- 25:42So you did have a parabola if you you bought strategy, you did
- 25:45have a parabola if you bought Metaplanet.
- 25:48And I think a lot of that got redirected from spot Bitcoin to
- 25:54a lot of the Bitcoin treasury companies.
- 25:55So if you're a spot Bitcoin holder or advocate as we are on
- 25:59Simply Bitcoin, I think that this previous cycle, you know,
- 26:04really put the pulled the rug out of you, pulled the rug under
- 26:07you out of out of you. I don't know what the saying is,
- 26:10but the point. Is pulled the rug from under
- 26:12you. There you go.
- 26:13Thank you, Opti, but but I got some good news.
- 26:15I got some good news. And the good news is this the
- 26:18Bitcoin treasury game, it's over, it's done right.
- 26:23Like the fact is. It you think so 100% none of
- 26:26these strategy will come back. Strategy's the only one that
- 26:30will come back because it has a core underlying business
- 26:35underneath it. If you're a core, if you're a
- 26:38just a treasury company, there's no core business underneath you
- 26:44that's generating revenue for your business to justify its
- 26:49value in the markets. I mean, I totally get that, but
- 26:52what does strategy do? Strategy.
- 26:55No, I know. I'm trolling.
- 26:57I'm trolling. I'm trolling.
- 26:57It's it's a business analytics company.
- 26:59It's software company, but it's software.
- 27:01I I'm I'm trolling. It's a software company.
- 27:03So so it's a software company. So bit strategy does have a core
- 27:10underlying business. They have thousands of
- 27:11employees, right? You know, I think that if you're
- 27:17a pure treasury company, I I, I just like, what is it that you
- 27:22do? What is it that you make?
- 27:24What is it that you, what cash flow do you have?
- 27:27So you're just you like your whole, your sole purpose is just
- 27:31to accumulate Bitcoin. That's it.
- 27:35I guess so I just that's my sole purpose.
- 27:38No, that's fine, but you're not a publicly traded company.
- 27:41I could be. It's also like you're.
- 27:42Solety on the stock. Sole Your sole purpose is to
- 27:46accumulate Bitcoin, take on debt.
- 27:49Here we go. You're Ultradiff.
- 27:51Got it. You raise capital, but it's just
- 27:53you raise capital to buy Bitcoin and then and then it's just and
- 27:56then hopefully number goes up. Wait, wait.
- 27:58It's like wait, hold on, you write, wait.
- 28:00It's one raise capital two buy Bitcoin, three question mark and
- 28:03dilute your for. Profit.
- 28:05Dilute your shareholders in the process.
- 28:08Like is that the whole purpose? Like that's not a company.
- 28:10Apple makes something, Microsoft makes something, right?
- 28:14I understand the ETFs. The ETFs make perfect sense.
- 28:18Like I I I personally wouldn't buy it because they they charge
- 28:21you a a yearly management fee and all that stuff.
- 28:24But simultaneously you're buying the ETFs to get exposure to spot
- 28:28Bitcoin. That's why you're buying the
- 28:30ETFs. What's the purpose of buying a
- 28:32treasury company? It's basically like a pseudo
- 28:34ETF. It's like a leverage play on
- 28:36Bitcoin. It's like if you're not allowed
- 28:37to buy the ETF because of regulatory reasons, you buy
- 28:41strategy. So you get exposure to Bitcoin
- 28:43that way. But it's really like a levered,
- 28:45A levered play on Bitcoin. That's really what it is.
- 28:51Someone says it's time for an energy drink sponsorship all.
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- 29:07we'd have to do some crazy shit like Opti would.
- 29:10Have to dude, we do this show every day.
- 29:12That is some crazy shit. Opti would have to like jump off
- 29:14a plane, you know? Do 3 not.
- 29:17Going to happen that that would be crazy.
- 29:19Content. I can't do that.
- 29:20I can't. That would be crazy content.
- 29:22No, it's not going to happen. That would be some crazy.
- 29:24Content. Not going to happen.
- 29:25Why not? First of all, I can't do
- 29:28backflips. Second of all, I don't want to
- 29:30jump out of planes. Yeah.
- 29:30Yeah, but you're going to do it with a, you're going to do it
- 29:32like Red Bull style, like with the parachute after doing some
- 29:36somersaults. No, no, no.
- 29:38You're. Going to be smashed.
- 29:40By I'm not the big fan of of heights you're.
- 29:42Going to go on bitcoinwell.com from your phone while you're
- 29:46jumping off a plane in a parachute and you're going to be
- 29:48smashed by Bitcoin. Lame content.
- 29:53L content. I thought I think it'd be dope.
- 29:56Yeah, but you're also a boomer now with dad jokes.
- 30:01Alright, let's give alright everybody.
- 30:03It's going to be a great show. We got some really good clips
- 30:06for you guys from yesterday. So yesterday was the World
- 30:10Liberty Forum where the Trump family got together.
- 30:13We have pictures of CZ there. We had some comments from the
- 30:17Trump family. They're calling for $1,000,000
- 30:19Bitcoin. CZ was talking to the CFTC
- 30:23chair. The probability that the Clarity
- 30:26Act will pass went all the way up to 90% yesterday, just based
- 30:33off this conference, just based off this forum alone.
- 30:36So that's some pretty good stuff.
- 30:38That's some pretty good news. So we have some clips, we have
- 30:42some things where we're going to talk about.
- 30:44We're going to break it down. Apparently, this was the place
- 30:47to be. And again, you're once again
- 30:50seeing a pattern that I keep pointing out to you guys and you
- 30:54guys keep ignoring me on which is guys, ladies and gentlemen,
- 31:01ladies and gentlemen, YCZ and the Trump family and Sailor all
- 31:10together all buying Bitcoin. If they didn't think that daddy
- 31:15Trump was going to make the announcement eventually.
- 31:19I do you think he'll make it before the midterms or after the
- 31:22midterms? That's.
- 31:24The it's they have to do it before the midterms because
- 31:27after the midterms are cooked. They might impeach him if.
- 31:31He doesn't. He's not even.
- 31:32Yeah, he's got to not do anything after the midterms.
- 31:35He's going to get impeached for for buying Bitcoin after the
- 31:38midterms anyways. All right, everybody, it's going
- 31:40to be a great show. We're going to be right back in
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- 34:48Percentage issued 95.19% I don't know how else to cut it for you
- 34:52guys. Like Bitcoin's in the shitter
- 34:55right now. It's in the shitter, all right.
- 34:57It's on discount. It's, it's, it's not doing so
- 35:00hot, right? You're getting it at a, at a
- 35:02massive discount. If you're buying Bitcoin right
- 35:05now, it's declined from all time highs at 47.2%.
- 35:10So if you're buying Bitcoin right now, you're getting it at
- 35:13a 40, almost a 50% discount. It could be going lower, we
- 35:18don't know, but. It's a buy one get half off
- 35:22special. I'll put it to you this way,
- 35:26Bitcoin is lower than its 2021 peak.
- 35:30That doesn't feel too good to say.
- 35:32Anyways, moving on. So let's talk about our boy CZ.
- 35:41Our boy CZ, Opti and him are good friends.
- 35:44Opti and him were at 11 here in Miami on October.
- 35:49On. October 10th, I don't know what
- 35:52they were doing but they nuke the fucking price bro.
- 35:57Spent a lot of sense. Totally worth it.
- 36:04Opti Opti's totally responsible for the current bear market.
- 36:09Anyways, Yeah, all seriousness, what is the signal?
- 36:13What's the news here? So the Liberty Phi, the the
- 36:18World Liberty Forum happened yesterday.
- 36:23And of course, you had the Trump kids there and you also had CZ
- 36:28listening to CFTC chairman talk at World Liberty Forum in Mar A
- 36:34Lago learned a lot. So CZ confirmed to be, you know,
- 36:40at the summer, I think they call it the winter White House.
- 36:43It's the winter White House. And yeah, so again, I'm sticking
- 36:48to, I'm sticking to my guns. We've been right more often than
- 36:53we've been wrong. I truly believe Trump's going to
- 36:57make the announcement that the United States has been buying
- 36:59Bitcoin. I, I think, I think that
- 37:01announcements going to be made. Anyways, here's some of the
- 37:06interviews from the conference yesterday.
- 37:10Here's one that Michael Saylor reposted.
- 37:14Again, Michael Saylor's sending messages.
- 37:17These are these are the, these are these are the president's
- 37:20kids. OK, here's Michael Saylor
- 37:24yesterday on February 18th, 2026, quoting Eric Trump and
- 37:31Eric Trump's throwing some crazy numbers out.
- 37:34I'm going to play it and then we'll talk about it.
- 37:37Let's check out the clip. Well too, you know, and I and I
- 37:40know stablecoin is different than Bitcoin, but you, I mean,
- 37:42you've been big proponents and bullish on Bitcoin as well.
- 37:45We still are. I'm a huge proponent of Bitcoin.
- 37:47I do think it hits $1,000,000. I think it's one of the greatest
- 37:50performing asset classes. I mean, go back two years,
- 37:53Bitcoin was that what, 16,000, you know, where is it at right
- 37:56now? 70, right?
- 37:57I mean, if you look at the the last 10 years, Bitcoin has gone
- 38:00up 70% a year on average year over year for the last decade.
- 38:04Name an asset class that has performed better than Bitcoin.
- 38:06And now obviously you have lots of volatility.
- 38:07If you don't want volatility, you know, go invest in some
- 38:10muni, you know, go, go have a great time, go invest in some
- 38:13treasury. You're going to have volatility
- 38:14with something that has tremendous upside.
- 38:16But I've never been more bullish on Bitcoin in my life.
- 38:19I've never been more bullish on a cryptocurrency in my life.
- 38:21You look at what every one of the big financial institutions
- 38:24in the country is doing, whether it be Fidelity, whether it be
- 38:26Charles Schwab, whether it be JP Morgan, whether it be BlackRock,
- 38:29right. Goldman's here.
- 38:31Yeah. I mean, go, go down the list.
- 38:33Every single one of them are adopting cryptocurrencies.
- 38:36They're willing to treasury cryptocurrencies.
- 38:39They're putting their private wealth clients into
- 38:41cryptocurrencies. Before, they were telling them
- 38:43puts exactly 0 into cryptocurrency.
- 38:44Then it was 2%. Now all of a sudden it's five,
- 38:466%. And that number keeps on
- 38:48climbing. It is the asset class of this
- 38:51generation. It's it's what every person
- 38:53under the age of 50 is into and and loves and and we're just
- 38:58getting started. We're on the 1 yard line I.
- 39:01Do I mean you think you'd think you'd be saying that if he
- 39:06didn't know Daddy was going to make a certain announcement?
- 39:13Why? Why is CZ hanging out at Mar A
- 39:16Lago? Because he got pardon and now
- 39:19that's. Part of the deal?
- 39:20Why? Why no?
- 39:22He already got pardon. Why?
- 39:23Yeah. So part part of the deal was now
- 39:25do our bidding. No, no.
- 39:27Why say? But what?
- 39:29How? What benefit is that to them?
- 39:33Nuke the price of Bitcoin so we could stack so we agree.
- 39:36But that's what I'm saying. OK, OK, so now we're on the same
- 39:40page. I I want to know what you guys
- 39:43think in the chat. Like are me and Opti just like
- 39:46literally retarded? And we're just like not seeing
- 39:48oh, drop the R word. Let's go.
- 39:53Like are are we like, are we just not seeing things?
- 39:56We might have to cut that out. Right, you're cutting it.
- 40:00Are we just like, are we like, are, are we just like, are we,
- 40:04are we seeing things that are not there, you know?
- 40:11I mean, yeah, potentially we're seeing ghost, but I, I agree
- 40:15with you. Look, I, I think the, the Trump
- 40:21children, we've been making the case that I don't think they're
- 40:25just stacking Bitcoin from a private, you know, angle.
- 40:28Like it's not just a private companies that are, that are
- 40:31buying Bitcoin. I think they are totally trying
- 40:35to acquire Bitcoin on the cheap. And he did say something very
- 40:40interesting in that clip. Eric Trump said something very
- 40:42interesting, which I've said on this show in the past, that what
- 40:46we have to remember is it's not so much that Larry Fink is now,
- 40:52you know, a bitcoiner per SE. It's not so much that he has
- 40:57been to need a Bitcoin, launched a Bitcoin product.
- 40:59That isn't necessarily the signal here.
- 41:03The signal here is that Larry Fink, as one of the largest
- 41:06asset managers in the world, is signaling to all of his clients,
- 41:09you need to own this thing because they see the future that
- 41:13we see. They see where this is going.
- 41:16And So what he's probably doing behind the scenes, obviously
- 41:19publicly, he's a little more reserved.
- 41:22He's just like, hey, this Bitcoin thing's not going away,
- 41:25You know, tokenize all the things type stuff, Wall Street
- 41:28shit, coining era. This is where we are.
- 41:31But privately, I think the conversations are going more on
- 41:35the lines of, hey, this Fiat thing is unsustainable, the debt
- 41:38is getting crazy. Who knows how much longer this
- 41:42game is going to go on. Who knows how much longer the
- 41:44music is going to continue to play in this, you know, monetary
- 41:49musical chairs. So you as a high net worth
- 41:53individual, if you want to maintain your wealth, you should
- 41:56probably own some of this Bitcoin.
- 41:58He is literally packing the escape boats for his wealthy
- 42:02clients. I think that is the signal going
- 42:04on. Eric Trump said this exact same
- 42:06thing. This isn't just Larry Fink or
- 42:09BlackRock saying this. Now all the banks are saying
- 42:11this, which I see people in the chat usually it's like, oh,
- 42:14they're already rich. Why do they need Bitcoin?
- 42:17You know, they're not trying to get more rich.
- 42:19You're not looking at this correctly.
- 42:21If you're one of us, an average person, you usually look at
- 42:25Bitcoin as, hey, number go up is going to increase my wealth.
- 42:29If you are completely intertwined with the Fiat
- 42:32system, it's not about necessarily gaining more wealth.
- 42:35Obviously that's what the billionaires and and that's what
- 42:38the elites want to do. You know, once you get caught up
- 42:41in in that addiction of making more wealth, you always want to
- 42:43make more wealth, but you also have to preserve your wealth,
- 42:47which is kind of the the classic chicken or egg problem that we
- 42:50always talk about. Or rather, it's one of the
- 42:52biggest critiques of Bitcoiners from people that aren't
- 42:55Bitcoiners, like, oh, you can't put all your eggs in one basket,
- 42:58bro. You need to diversify your
- 43:01portfolio, bro. And I forget who it was.
- 43:03It's like Warren Buffet fitter or Charlie Munger.
- 43:05One one of them said something on the lines of you concentrate
- 43:09your wealth into one basket to gain wealth, to make wealth.
- 43:14But once you are already rich and you already have a lot of
- 43:18wealth, then you diversify to preserve your wealth.
- 43:22So the elites, the the JP Morgan's, the Goldman Sachs, the
- 43:26black rocks of the world, they're not necessarily here
- 43:29just trying to get games. They're in the preservation of
- 43:31wealth game. And if you see if if we can
- 43:35understand what's going on in the Fiat system and say, hey,
- 43:38look, I don't know how long this is going to go on, but there's a
- 43:41problem here and everyone knows there's a problem, then they're
- 43:45in the preservation of wealth game.
- 43:47That's why they're buying Bitcoin.
- 43:49That's why Larry Fink is out here saying, hey, you should
- 43:51probably put 5% of your portfolio into Bitcoin publicly.
- 43:55Privately, it's probably higher than that.
- 43:57But that's the game here. For us.
- 43:59It's like, you know, I'm trying to increase my wealth For them,
- 44:03it's preservation of wealth. Eric Trump is saying this exact
- 44:06same thing. Now.
- 44:07You know, my more cynical take here is like, hey, bro, look, I
- 44:11love the $1 million Bitcoin calls, but like, tell your dad
- 44:15to pump our bags, dog. Like, don't talk to me about it.
- 44:18Like tell your dad. I think he is, dude.
- 44:20I think he is. I'm asking.
- 44:22By the way, I just released a poll in the chat, 43 votes so
- 44:26far, I said, is the Bitcoin bottom in it's 5050.
- 44:29It's probably not a good sign. No, it's a great sign.
- 44:32What do you mean? 'Cause if it's 8021 way, then
- 44:35what you got to do the opposite? 5050 means uncertainty.
- 44:38No one has any clue. I like that.
- 44:41The hope needs to be taken out of the room completely.
- 44:44That's when I know that. Dude the chat is fighting each
- 44:46other I. Think the hope is gone.
- 44:48No, no, no, no. We need we need less hope.
- 44:51We need less hope. Dude, there's too much hope
- 44:54that's not for someone says 45 K will be the bottom.
- 44:58Any who guys cap it's going to be a great show if you guys are
- 45:04enjoying it so far make sure to smash that like button we did
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- 45:18And then shout out to all the zaps we're getting on on Primal.
- 45:21Appreciate y'all. Thank you guys so much.
- 45:24We really appreciate it. Heart for you guys on Noster.
- 45:32Keep going, keep going, just keep it going.
- 45:35All right, everybody, we'll be right back.
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- 49:19So I do want to talk about that. I do want to show that.
- 49:23Where is it? Here we go.
- 49:25Let's check out the clip Brian Armstrong, CEO of Coinbase.
- 49:29We're here meeting with crypto companies, bank representatives
- 49:32and senators as well to see if we can get to a solution on
- 49:34market structure. And one of the big issues that
- 49:37did come up in the past was this idea of stable coins on rewards.
- 49:41I wouldn't say we blocked it. In fact, nobody, I think in the
- 49:43crypto space has been working harder on this over the last few
- 49:45years to try to get some legislation.
- 49:47What we did say was. The current draft, we had some
- 49:49issues with it. I think that caused everyone to
- 49:51come back to the table and there's now a path forward where
- 49:53we can get a win, win, win outcome here.
- 49:55Win for the crypto industry, a win for the banks, and a win for
- 49:57the American consumer to get President Trump's crypto agenda
- 50:02through to the finish line so we can make America the crypto
- 50:04capital of the world. All right, everybody, so I told
- 50:07you guys the main hurdle was that rewards situation, right?
- 50:12And I told you guys that was the main hurdle is because that
- 50:15essentially is competition towards the banks.
- 50:18The banks don't offer interest on your deposits if you have a
- 50:22checking account, which is atrocious.
- 50:25You know, they, they do technically offer you interest,
- 50:28but it's like comical. It's like .03 something percent.
- 50:31It's like, it's like ridiculous. And then they charge you a
- 50:33maintenance fee. So you end up paying more just
- 50:35to have your money in a checking account rather than the bank
- 50:39actually paying you for having your money in the account.
- 50:43Now the reason that banks feel so threatened about these like
- 50:47neo banks and these exchanges like Coinbase is basically what
- 50:52they start doing instead of offering interest directly.
- 50:54They can't really call interest. They're they're starting to
- 50:56offer rewards, right? So you can have your Bitcoin or
- 51:01your whatever altcoin and Coinbase or whatever and they'll
- 51:04reward you for it, which it, it in, in its mechanism.
- 51:09It's functioning a lot like interest, right?
- 51:11Like if you boil it down and, and you, you break it down to,
- 51:15you know, the, the basics of it, that's essentially what it's
- 51:18doing. Now, all of that being said, a
- 51:24couple things he said in that video as well that I want to
- 51:27talk about. He did mention about the
- 51:29importance of passing Presidents Trump a crypto agenda.
- 51:35That's incredibly important. I think it's a positive thing.
- 51:40Again, I, I, I don't know the nuances of the bill, but I would
- 51:43say it's more of a pro than a con.
- 51:46And I'll tell you why. There's an more than 80%
- 51:52probability that Trump, deservingly so, unfortunately,
- 51:59like, 'cause I love Trump and I, I love the party that, you know,
- 52:03we elected into office and I was so bullish on it.
- 52:06I was part of one of the inauguration Bitcoin live
- 52:10streams. Like we were all about this
- 52:12stuff. Like we were all over it.
- 52:13We were really hyped. We were very excited.
- 52:16But I'll be honest with you, it was a little bit of a let down.
- 52:19It's just a little bit of a let down.
- 52:21Like it wasn't exactly what we had in mind.
- 52:26Yeah, I, I think it was focusing a lot on, on foreign policy
- 52:32rather than the problems at home.
- 52:34And, you know, here we are almost two years later.
- 52:39And, you know, if you look at the Poly market odds and the the
- 52:43the elections that have happened so far, it looks like the
- 52:47Republicans are going to get smoked minimum.
- 52:50They lose the House, they might lose the Senate now, which is
- 52:53crazy, right. So the reason I'm saying all of
- 52:56this is because the only chance that they have at passing this
- 53:04is right now, and I'm really happy to say that the Poly
- 53:09market odds had it and it has quite a bit of volume.
- 53:12It has more than $90,000 worth of volume.
- 53:16On February 18th at 3:50 PM, it went all the way up to 90%.
- 53:22Currently it's at 82% chance that the Clarity Act does get
- 53:28signed into law. From my understanding, the
- 53:31Clarity Act does have the protection of self custody.
- 53:36It provides framework for the entire industry.
- 53:39This isn't just the stablecoin bill that was passed the Genius
- 53:42Act. This is a broader Bitcoin slash
- 53:45crypto bill, which would be good.
- 53:49It would provide clarity, regulatory clarity for a lot of
- 53:52institutions. I think this is the type of
- 53:54thing that if it does get signed and into law, I think we might
- 53:56actually see positive price action, right?
- 54:00Because it is it is kind of a big deal.
- 54:02But again, the window is closing.
- 54:05They really only have until November to pass this.
- 54:08If they wait for after that, then there's a high likelihood
- 54:11it doesn't get passed. So this is awesome.
- 54:14Like this is good that it's happening.
- 54:17So I want to get your thoughts on this Opti, you know, you know
- 54:20how negative I felt about it. I wasn't feeling too bullish
- 54:23about this at all. I want to get your thoughts.
- 54:27Yeah, well, the Poly market odds are are very interesting.
- 54:32It is I, I think the timing is very interesting.
- 54:35And like everyone's saying, you know what does someone know?
- 54:38Someone's got to know something going on maybe again, maybe this
- 54:42is insider trading on the Poly market odds and something came
- 54:45out of the World Liberty. What's it for?
- 54:48World Liberty Finance Forum that made someone extremely bullish
- 54:52and you know they they put some money behind it.
- 54:55So you know, seeing the the Poly odds markets or the the what do
- 55:00you call them again, the betting odds go up.
- 55:04It is very interesting usually, you know, with, with a lot of
- 55:07liquidity, they, they do seemingly, you know, have the
- 55:11right idea because again, as the saying goes, you know, put your
- 55:14money where the mouth where your mouth is or wait, Yeah, that's
- 55:17the one. And so it is interesting to see
- 55:19the, the, the betting odds go up like this.
- 55:22I'm still, I, I don't know, I, I'm still kind of like hesitant
- 55:27about it. But it is interesting that we
- 55:31saw Brian Armstrong talk about this.
- 55:34Of course, CFTC was at the World Liberty Finance forum yesterday.
- 55:38I'm guessing they talked about this behind the scenes.
- 55:41I didn't really see anything come out of it really on the
- 55:43mainstage. So hey, look, I think what I've
- 55:49just what, what my vibe has been is just the, the clock is
- 55:53ticking. And when we see these kind of
- 55:57rhetorical, you know, statements, these PR presses
- 56:00come out here and they're like, you know, we're working on it.
- 56:04We're coming back to the table. It's going to happen soon.
- 56:08It's like we've seen this before.
- 56:09They, they've been saying that since the end of last year.
- 56:13And now it's like maybe in a month or two we'll have it
- 56:17again. Like we're saying, I, I, I think
- 56:20if this doesn't get passed before summer, I don't think
- 56:24it's going to get past because they're going to pivot the
- 56:27machine from actually doing things to now we are, you know,
- 56:32getting caught up in the midterm circus.
- 56:34So if it's going to happen, hopefully these betting odds
- 56:38are, are a, you know, precursor of them happening soon.
- 56:42But if it doesn't happen soon, then it's probably not going to
- 56:45happen. It's kind of my my view of this
- 56:47so. I agree.
- 56:50I agree, but I mean the betting, the betting odds have been quite
- 56:53accurate so far. So I am, I am, I am optimistic.
- 56:58I am optimistic. Damn bro, the chat's going wild
- 57:03and out. Wild and out.
- 57:07Opti, you got a request bro? No, I don't even know what it
- 57:12is. You can scroll up and read it.
- 57:16All right, everybody, we're going to be right back just a
- 57:17bit. We're going to we're going to
- 57:19take a look at the culture. I actually, all right, look, I
- 57:22actually added one more button. He's going to do something.
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- 58:12What's going on here? All right guys, I really like
- 58:15this thread and I'm I'm going to follow it up with some
- 58:18interesting numbers that I saw on Twitter.
- 58:21This is oh what what happened? Whoa, wrong one.
- 58:26Sorry, Zen. I really like this guy, Zen
- 58:30Zinx, Zinx, BTC and I, and I think this sums up a lot of the
- 58:35stuff that I've been saying. I think it's a little more
- 58:37eloquent than me just rambling on the show, but I I've
- 58:40literally said this multiple times on the show.
- 58:43So just to kind of, you know, set the frame here he goes.
- 58:48I think it's safe to say that Bitcoin still struggles in
- 58:50periods of macro uncertainty, which is obviously we've been
- 58:53seeing that we we've actually been covering it for months at
- 58:56this point. There has been a lot of macro
- 58:59uncertainty And further, we are now currently in in some more
- 59:03macro uncertainty with potential war happening in the Middle
- 59:06East. Like we, we're in the midst of
- 59:08all kinds of uncertainty on a macro geopolitical level.
- 59:11And obviously Bitcoin being, you know, 24/7, the most saleable,
- 59:16most liquid asset and still perceived as a risk on asset,
- 59:22that's what usually sells first. Bitcoin has this tendency of
- 59:26smelling out, you know, geopolitical macro kind of
- 59:30scenarios and people sell it off first.
- 59:32Now this is kind of what I've been saying Again, I like how he
- 59:36put it in in this tweet. And because it's 2 nation for it
- 59:38to function as a universal flight to safety asset, only
- 59:42high conviction holders treated that way today, which is what I
- 59:44tell you guys all the time. This is what we always talk
- 59:47about here, that to us, Bitcoin is the risk off asset, you know,
- 59:51neutral, neutral money with no CEO, no one, no one controlling
- 59:56it. You know, from like a top down
- 59:58level, there's no CEO. Again, you know, the devs don't
- 1:00:01have as much control as everyone likes to say they're they do.
- 1:00:04Like, yes, maybe the miners have some semblance of control, but
- 1:00:07it's really controlled by the users of Bitcoin.
- 1:00:10We all make up what Bitcoin is when we run our nodes, when we
- 1:00:13transact on Bitcoin. And for most people, especially
- 1:00:16now that Wall Street's coming into it.
- 1:00:19They're not looking at Bitcoin like we look at it.
- 1:00:20They're not looking at it, you know, reserve truly neutral
- 1:00:24money that no one is in in control of.
- 1:00:26They they still believe in the in the lie of Fiat money.
- 1:00:29That money has to be controlled by governments.
- 1:00:31So we are still in the minority here.
- 1:00:34No one outside of our echo chamber thinks of Bitcoin like
- 1:00:37we do anyways. For most capital, the default
- 1:00:40obviously still remains gold, hence why we saw it rise last
- 1:00:43year. In the face of all this macro
- 1:00:45uncertainty and defensive equities, you know, Dow's at
- 1:00:4950,000. Do I need to say more?
- 1:00:52Anyway, until Bitcoin is widely recognized as neutral, scarce
- 1:00:55money, it will remain volatile in times of uncertainty.
- 1:00:58This is where we are guys. This is this is just a
- 1:01:01pragmatic, you know, reality of the situation.
- 1:01:04This is where we are. Yes, we have some ideologies
- 1:01:07where we think Bitcoin is going what we think Bitcoin is, but
- 1:01:11the reality is it's still too small and no one recognizes
- 1:01:15Bitcoin as a neutral scarce money yet.
- 1:01:17But of course, you know the take away, the bullish take away.
- 1:01:20It's not to worry though. We stay the course, continue
- 1:01:22stacking. Ultimately volatility is the
- 1:01:24price of asymmetric returns. That's kind of like the where
- 1:01:29I'm I'm at right now. This is what this is what I'm
- 1:01:31seeing now to, you know, put this into the context of where
- 1:01:37we currently are and just how asleep people are at the wheel.
- 1:01:41Check out this tweet by Kobayashi letter.
- 1:01:44They go breaking. The 60 plus day delinquency rate
- 1:01:48on US subprime auto loans is up to a record 6.9%.
- 1:01:52Serious delinquency rates have more than doubled since 2021.
- 1:01:57Hence, I've been telling you guys like, look the official
- 1:02:00economic numbers, or at least the official rhetoric, the
- 1:02:03official party line for the Trump administration as the
- 1:02:05economy is doing better than ever.
- 1:02:07You know, everyone's richer, yadda, yadda, yadda.
- 1:02:10When you look at the numbers, you know, inflation's down.
- 1:02:12When you when you not just look at the numbers, but when you,
- 1:02:16you know, heuristically talk to people, most people are
- 1:02:20struggling right now. And now we're seeing that, you
- 1:02:22know, delinquency double since, you know, four or five years
- 1:02:26from now or from the past. And this exceeds the 19-6 or
- 1:02:301996 peak by .9 percentage points.
- 1:02:33For context, the 2008 financial crisis was 5%.
- 1:02:38Meanwhile, total auto debt is up plus three $312 billion over the
- 1:02:44last five years to a record 1.67 trillion, driven by surging
- 1:02:47vehicle prices. Subprime financing makes up
- 1:02:50roughly 14% or 234 billion of all auto loans.
- 1:02:53Americans are falling behind on their car debt at a record pace,
- 1:02:57as well as the numbers we've covered on the show before that
- 1:03:01credit card debt is at the highest level it's ever been.
- 1:03:03You know, housing prices are at the most unaffordable level that
- 1:03:08they've ever been. And so you're, you're starting
- 1:03:11to see that these signs are showing that, hey, people are
- 1:03:14feeling pain. And one of my thesis is always
- 1:03:18the same. You know, humans are driven by
- 1:03:20either the, the fear of loss or, you know, the pursuit of
- 1:03:24pleasure of gaining something. And for a while we've been all
- 1:03:27hopped up on the dopamine of like, hey, we can all get rich.
- 1:03:30We can all go to the casino, you know, gambling, FanDuel type
- 1:03:34stuff, gambling on the bread and circuses, Poly market odds.
- 1:03:37You know, America's been turned into a casino at this point.
- 1:03:41And people are literally losing their house right now pretty
- 1:03:44much Anyways, going further, this is an interesting metric as
- 1:03:48well. Kind of some more context on
- 1:03:50this because 1.7 million cars were repossessed in 2009 during
- 1:03:54the great financial crisis, and three million cars were
- 1:03:57repossessed in 2025. The average new car is $748 a
- 1:04:01month. 78% of Americans compute you commute using their cars.
- 1:04:05Subprime delinquency rates are 6.9%.
- 1:04:07Subprime makes up roughly 4% of all auto loans.
- 1:04:10The crisis is here. Now.
- 1:04:12How am I connecting the dots here?
- 1:04:14Is is basically back to the zinc's tweet.
- 1:04:17It's like until people realize that they need a neutral, scarce
- 1:04:22money, until people realize that there might be a financial
- 1:04:26crisis and we're living right through it.
- 1:04:28Remember, they literally changed the definition of a recession.
- 1:04:32Until people actually realize where the economy is, that we
- 1:04:36might be in a recession, might be in a depression scenario.
- 1:04:39You think we're in a recession? I think we've been.
- 1:04:42In a recession, right? I mean, if you look what it was,
- 1:04:47I think it was Sailor who said this.
- 1:04:49Like if you look at any like any Fortune 500 company outside the
- 1:04:54Mag 7, they're not doing so odd. Yeah, it's like the official
- 1:05:04narrative, the official, you know, party line right now is
- 1:05:07the economy is doing better than ever.
- 1:05:10When you look at data that isn't coming out from the government,
- 1:05:16it's painting a different picture.
- 1:05:17It's like people people are, you know, racking up credit card
- 1:05:20debt. People are defaulting on their
- 1:05:22loans. I mean, the numbers are
- 1:05:25literally bigger than it was during the great financial
- 1:05:27crisis. And like, you're telling me that
- 1:05:29we're not in a recession? It's like the numbers are
- 1:05:31bigger. Obviously now inflation has
- 1:05:34gotten crazy compared to 2008, 2009.
- 1:05:38So that could be part of the, you know, the numbers really
- 1:05:41confusing us, but it still doesn't really make you feel
- 1:05:46good of like, Oh no, we're actually doing a lot better than
- 1:05:49we are. And it's like people, I don't
- 1:05:51think I, I think they're really sleepwalking right now and they
- 1:05:54don't realize how bad of a scenario things are because as
- 1:05:58we've kind of been talking about in social media right now, you
- 1:06:01know, I don't know, I don't know what happened guys.
- 1:06:07It's really difficult, I think for most people to find the
- 1:06:12signal through the noise. And as we've been saying
- 1:06:14forever, it's like, guys, the signal has always been the same
- 1:06:17like you need to own Bitcoin that like opt out of the Fiat
- 1:06:21system. And now when more people are
- 1:06:22starting to feel the pain, obviously it's, it's a 2 sided
- 1:06:25coin. If people are feeling the pain,
- 1:06:27they're obviously looking for an escape or a fix.
- 1:06:30But at the same time, and most people don't have money and
- 1:06:34that's kind of I think where we are.
- 1:06:36And then further add on top of that, most people that did have
- 1:06:39work quote UN quote crypto curious, they got burnt in 2021
- 1:06:43by shit coins. And now they're like, I'm
- 1:06:45staying away from this. You know, the saying all these
- 1:06:48names about Bitcoin, whatever they want to say.
- 1:06:50And really what's the saying? You can lead a horse to a water,
- 1:06:55but you can't make a drink? That's true.
- 1:06:57And here we are like all the signs are showing me like, man,
- 1:07:00things are really bad, but the official narrative is just like,
- 1:07:03keep it going. We're good to go, dude.
- 1:07:05Like this is what I've, I've said this for years now.
- 1:07:08It's like the people that are responsible for regulating
- 1:07:11Bitcoin and the people that are responsible for the economy and
- 1:07:15like all this stuff are also the people that are in charge that
- 1:07:19could that could manipulate the numbers and the data and the
- 1:07:22statistics. Like like talk about like it's
- 1:07:25like, oh, we don't want to look good.
- 1:07:26We're just going to change the data to make ourselves look bad.
- 1:07:30The the swan to look good, they don't want to look bad.
- 1:07:33Yeah, yeah. So they just keep moving the
- 1:07:34goal posts, you know, depending on, you know, how it makes them
- 1:07:38look like. Do you remember these are like
- 1:07:40the fun old days of the show? Do you remember during the.
- 1:07:43You know what, Maybe there is a silver lining if the Democrats
- 1:07:47take back the House because we're going to talk.
- 1:07:48We're going to have a lot of shit to talk.
- 1:07:50About Honestly, you want another silver lining here?
- 1:07:52The silver lining is if the Dems do, you know, take back the
- 1:07:56House and they get a Democrat president, they're going to
- 1:08:00attack Bitcoin price is going to go up and then further people
- 1:08:05are going to stop believing in politics because they don't like
- 1:08:07the Democrats. And bro, now we can really get
- 1:08:09some change here, guys. Now we can really do what we
- 1:08:12want here because everyone's cooked and they have no faith in
- 1:08:15the system. Oh man, this is this.
- 1:08:17Is my thesis. This is the thesis on like Max
- 1:08:20acceleration mode right now. I am, I am a, a reactionary, I'm
- 1:08:25a real, I'm a pragmatic realist here.
- 1:08:28And I'm like, look, we are accelerating.
- 1:08:31I I'm just acknowledging the acceleration.
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- 1:09:50We should we should make it look epic.
- 1:09:52You should do the slow, the slow fade into the wide shot, and
- 1:09:56then we should just pretend to have a conversation.
- 1:09:59OK, wait, wait, wait. Hold on the slow fade into the
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