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A Dive Into The NFC East Division This Offseason (PST Episode 615) · The Philadelphia Sports Table | Philly Sports News & Views

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show, the longest
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  Speaker 1: And uh yeah, yeah, we got Look, folks, we got
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  Speaker 1: a great show this week, a lot of stuff. We've
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  Speaker 1: got a great interview that we're gonna be getting to
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  Speaker 1: what we're thrown down on the table this week. We've
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  Speaker 1: got Dave Howman from Bloggingtheboys dot Com and the Writer's
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  Speaker 1: Block podcast joining us for a dive into what the
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  Speaker 1: NFC East is actually looking like, especially after the NFL
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  Speaker 1: Draft and free agency. What every team in the NFC
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  Speaker 1: East has been doing. We're gonna get into that again,
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  Speaker 1: that's what we're thrown down on the table. But Eric
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  Speaker 1: and I are gonna start off talking about this Phillies
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  Speaker 1: team and the fact that they really don't have much
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  Speaker 1: of an offensive identity at this point. We'll dive into it,
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  Speaker 1: and then from there we're gonna get into some NBA talk.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, with the postseason now underway, some bizarre stuff
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  Speaker 1: going on for sure in the NBA. It's making the
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  Speaker 1: postseason very, very interesting. Then we're going to get into
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  Speaker 1: draft lotteries. Do we like draft lotteries? Are they fair?
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  Speaker 1: Give our thoughts there. Then we're gonna rank the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: drafts over the past five years in terms of, you know,
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  Speaker 1: what our favorite drafts were and what we think were
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  Speaker 1: the best Eagles drafts over the past five years. So
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  Speaker 1: with that being said, Eric Buddy, let's get started with
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  Speaker 1: this Philadelphia Phillies team. What we've seen from them. Pitching
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  Speaker 1: not horrible by any stretch of the imagination. Look, they're
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  Speaker 1: still second in the NL least as of us recording
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  Speaker 1: this here on May seven, twenty twenty five. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: like their offensive identity has yet to really manifest itself
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  Speaker 1: this season. We know they're a power hitting club, and
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  Speaker 1: there are some major power hitters on this team, but
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  Speaker 1: that power consistency still really hasn't happened at all this season.
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  Speaker 1: We can we can look at specific players, of course,
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  Speaker 1: like Kyle Schwarber. Okay, he is absolutely killing it this season.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing to really analyze with him. When it comes
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  Speaker 1: to his offensive prowess this season, I think forty to
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  Speaker 1: fifty home runs for him is not out of the
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  Speaker 1: realm of possibility. But after that, you've got Bryce Harper
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  Speaker 1: who's been in a very prolonged slump, and when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to power, I think he's just had two home
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  Speaker 1: runs at his last fifty nine at bats. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's time to start wondering possibly how injuries have affected
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  Speaker 1: him physically and affected his power to be in his
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  Speaker 1: fourteenth season here in Major League Baseball, and of course
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  Speaker 1: you have a slew of other Phillies that just are
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  Speaker 1: not getting it done from an offensive standpoint. Like I
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  Speaker 1: there is no offensive identity when it comes to this
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  Speaker 1: Phillies team here, and I don't know it's it's I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to say I'm so concerned about it because
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  Speaker 1: it's still quote early this season, and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: folks are saying, oh, Okay, we're getting to the point
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  Speaker 1: where you really can't say that it's early this season.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean May, we still have the entire summer
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  Speaker 1: to go through, and you know what's going to happen
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  Speaker 1: with this team towards the latter part of the season.
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  Speaker 1: That's when it really does count. So I'm hoping that
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  Speaker 1: power consistency really starts coming around, you know, as we're
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  Speaker 1: getting into getting into the month of May. Here, man,
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  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts here?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's funny because I everything I wrote down my
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  Speaker 3: notes is to you know, attack their meager offensive outputs
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  Speaker 3: so far the season, but they won seven zero tonight,
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  Speaker 3: h Trade Turner had a big, big home run, fine will,
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  Speaker 3: I know, but he was batting three oh seven this
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  Speaker 3: year the Mets one as well, so there's still two
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  Speaker 3: games back. But outside of tonight's game, you know, you
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  Speaker 3: look at it. I mean good overall basic stats batting
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  Speaker 3: average OPS is kind of in the top ten across
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  Speaker 3: the board in Major League Baseball. But some deeper stats
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  Speaker 3: I pulled today. They're fifteenth overall at bats per home
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  Speaker 3: run at thirty two point one point nine. That's right,
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  Speaker 3: literally right in the middle. Their fifteenth overall out of
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  Speaker 3: thirty teams. And when you're when you're supposed to be
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  Speaker 3: a power hitting team, you're kind of middling road, in
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  Speaker 3: the middle of the road in terms of hitting home runs.
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  Speaker 3: It's tough to win games, tough to score runs. But
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  Speaker 3: these two stats really jumped out at me and kind
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  Speaker 3: of speaks to the lack of hitting when it matters.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty fifth overall ground grounded and double plays at point
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  Speaker 3: zero seven to seven. That's a bad stat. You don't
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  Speaker 3: want to be good. No, And probably the worst one
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  Speaker 3: is twenty seventh overall and runners left in scoring position
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  Speaker 3: at three point ninety seven. They're they're pretty much at
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  Speaker 3: the you know, in the basement for for those two stats,
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  Speaker 3: which means they're not you know, they're not they're not
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  Speaker 3: hitting when guys are on base, they're grinding into double plays,
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  Speaker 3: making easier on the other team. You know, we talked
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  Speaker 3: about the Mets, and offensively, you know they're they're not
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  Speaker 3: a juggernaut quite yet. But what did what did concern
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  Speaker 3: me was how the Phillies played them in their three
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  Speaker 3: games set a couple of weeks ago, where the Mets
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  Speaker 3: just handed their asses to them, and offensively they were
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  Speaker 3: terrible the Phillies in those three games. It was really
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  Speaker 3: not the kind of series you wanted to have against
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  Speaker 3: the team that knocked you out of the playoffs, in
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  Speaker 3: your biggest rivals they play again in June. This is
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  Speaker 3: a very streaky offensive team, thank goodness. The pitching has
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  Speaker 3: been solid, has been consistent, because as we know, the
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  Speaker 3: offense is gonna be up and down all year and
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  Speaker 3: that's just how this team is built. But they're also
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  Speaker 3: getting older, so that that bouncing up and down is
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  Speaker 3: going to take longer to occur over time, unfortunately, because
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna start to have injuries. There's no way you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna avoid it with this team. Yeah, your offensive players.
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  Speaker 3: So they I'm hoping they get hot here soon because
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  Speaker 3: it's beginning of May. They've won a couple of games
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  Speaker 3: here twenty one and fifteen. But yeah, I think I
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  Speaker 3: said in the previous show, you kind of wanted to
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  Speaker 3: be kind of wanted to come like guns firing out
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  Speaker 3: of the gate. Yeah, didn't why they did it in
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  Speaker 3: the very beginning of the season, but just not just
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  Speaker 3: not looking like that now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the first three series they won, and then after
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  Speaker 1: that it was just manned right off, basically right off
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  Speaker 1: a cliff. But then again, you look at this team, Eric,
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  Speaker 1: and it's kind of what we've thought, and it seems
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  Speaker 1: like it's what the Phillies front office thought. Concentrate on
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  Speaker 1: some fantastic pitching and then if and when the hitting
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  Speaker 1: comes around, it'll come around. And it's gonna be spotty
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  Speaker 1: here and there. I don't know if you're going to
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  Speaker 1: hang your hat on that going into potentially a postseason run,
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  Speaker 1: which that is the expectation. But how we thought the
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  Speaker 1: pitching was going to work and be more dominant than
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  Speaker 1: the hitting, I mean, that's actually happened. So I guess
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  Speaker 1: what the Phillies front office wanted to do this offseason.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of working here at this point. Again, second
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  Speaker 2: in the division.
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  Speaker 3: It is, you know, like I said, I'm worried about
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  Speaker 3: because of the age and a lack of consistency, and
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  Speaker 3: they're already a streaky team. Like I mean, he oh
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  Speaker 3: my god, I just thought Castianos is the all time
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  Speaker 3: Like he will scorch he will scorch earth for ten
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  Speaker 3: ten days in a row, yeah, and then just fall
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  Speaker 3: into oblivion for a weeks. Yeah, And like I kind
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  Speaker 3: of wish there was more consistency across the board with
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  Speaker 3: this team. But this is what you paid for, and
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  Speaker 3: this is how you've gotten to the postseason the past
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  Speaker 3: three seasons. Like you, just the pitching keeps up. Maybe,
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  Speaker 3: you know, maybe Andrew Paynter comes up at some point,
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  Speaker 3: does somehow Aiden Miller, Justin Crawford make an appearance down
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  Speaker 3: the road because Justine injuries.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, Justin Crawford is absolutely killing it in Lehigh Valley
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  Speaker 1: at this point.
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  Speaker 2: He's killing it.
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  Speaker 3: I know they're both, they're both they're both both expected
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  Speaker 3: to hit the league in twenty twenty six, but who knows,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, and I hope they I hope we
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  Speaker 3: don't see them in a trade to bring in someone
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  Speaker 3: else down the road because we do have the injuries.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, they want tonight and just one game
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  Speaker 3: at a time. I sound like a baseball player post
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  Speaker 3: game interview, because that really is what this team is,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like I love this team,
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  Speaker 3: but my god, I just wish some of the young
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  Speaker 3: guys would step up. Yeah, Stott and Bomb And that's
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  Speaker 3: we talked about in the previous show a bunch of
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  Speaker 3: times like this is the year we need at least
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  Speaker 3: one or two of these guys to like start to
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  Speaker 3: take the mantle from another one of the older players.
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  Speaker 3: But just I mean, Alec Baum is missing person, missing
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  Speaker 3: an action like yes, like on the back of a
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  Speaker 3: milk cart, and he's been terrible. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's going to be interesting to see where this
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  Speaker 1: team goes in these next few series here. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I think when when you look at the New York
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  Speaker 1: Mets and their quote dominance within the division, they they've
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  Speaker 1: had a very very favorable schedule. The Phillies have had
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  Speaker 1: a schedule where it has been a little tougher. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: everybody else to play everybody in this league, and things
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  Speaker 1: are are spread out throughout the schedules for all of
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  Speaker 1: these teams. But at the end of the day, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Phillies are going to get some ease here and
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  Speaker 1: there in terms of their schedule, of course. So anyway,
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  Speaker 1: that being said, with regard to the Phillies, Eric, let's
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  Speaker 1: get into some NBA talk here, a couple different topics
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  Speaker 1: we wanted to dive into, and folks, no sixers, because
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  Speaker 1: there's just really nothing at this point to talk about
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  Speaker 1: with this damn team except for the fact that it
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  Speaker 1: seems like Alton brand is going to be back in
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  Speaker 1: the UH front office.
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  Speaker 2: From what I've read, Eric, great.
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  Speaker 3: Oh good, great, thank thank god. Right exactly, he was
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  Speaker 3: a disastrous free and signing and a front office disaster.
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  Speaker 3: And with let's bring him back with that. This is
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  Speaker 3: the same this is the same damn city that you
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  Speaker 3: know just keeps bringing Tomorrow, Rubin Tomorrow back. Yes, the Phillies.
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  Speaker 3: He ran him into the I mean, God bless him.
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  Speaker 3: He was part of the eight team, but like ran
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  Speaker 3: him into the ground, didn't do the right things. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: let's bring him back and put him in the booth
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  Speaker 3: so we know he's Eric or he god damn exactly,
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  Speaker 3: he's in there.
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  Speaker 2: God he sucks well.
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  Speaker 1: Getting into this NBA discussion here on the episode this
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  Speaker 1: week here read an article and wanted to bring this
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  Speaker 1: up because it deals with NBC and what they are
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  Speaker 1: going to be doing from a promo standpoint. So, after
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  Speaker 1: reacquiring NBA, writes last summer, the NBC, the network itself
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  Speaker 1: in NBC Sports, they've been doing some good things by
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  Speaker 1: bringing in some solid talent, hiring so pretty good talent,
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  Speaker 1: bringing back you know, round Ball Rock. But then yesterday
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  Speaker 1: news came out that they're going to be using AI
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  Speaker 1: to recreate Jim Fagan's voice for promotional materials. Now, for folks,
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  Speaker 1: if you're a little younger, you may not necessarily know
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  Speaker 1: who Jim Fagan was. He died passed away twenty seventeen,
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  Speaker 1: but as many of us older folks know, he was
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  Speaker 1: the classic voice for the NBA and for the NBC's
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  Speaker 1: network during the nineteen nineties.
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  Speaker 2: He did all the.
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  Speaker 1: Promos back then, and it's it's really bizarre that the
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  Speaker 1: lack of creativity in terms of what this era is
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  Speaker 1: and what NBC is wanting to do eric here now
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five, it's like they want to go
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  Speaker 1: back in time here and it's so bizarre to me.
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  Speaker 1: We just wanted to give our thoughts on how networks
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  Speaker 1: and others were using AI for this kind of marketing,
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  Speaker 1: like if it's if it's good, if it's even good
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  Speaker 1: for the brand, if it's good for basketball or whatever
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  Speaker 1: sport it is. Because I look at something like this, Eric,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I think this is crap. To be honest,
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  Speaker 1: I think that you have you have an era where
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  Speaker 1: there are certain guys like look the eighties and the nineties.
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  Speaker 1: You know you had John Madden, Pat summer Ale, those
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  Speaker 1: were the voices of the NFL. Jim Fagan was certainly
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  Speaker 1: that voice in the nineteen nineties and even beyond for
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  Speaker 1: the NBA in terms of NBC. You have certain voices
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  Speaker 1: for certain periods of time and certain eras. Why try
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  Speaker 1: to recreate that. It's something I don't understand. I think
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  Speaker 1: this is crap. I think it's garbage just because you
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  Speaker 1: can use AI in this regard, I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know what are your thoughts. I think
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  Speaker 2: this sucks, to be honest.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of really good announcers. Yeah, great voices
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  Speaker 3: there out there now. Yes, you know what, if the
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  Speaker 3: NBA wants to give me a million bucks, I have
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  Speaker 3: a good voice. I mean you want me to your.
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  Speaker 2: Voice gladly like silk it is?
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  Speaker 3: And where but where does this shit end? I mean like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: is the NFL? You brought up Summer All and John Madden.
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  Speaker 3: That's a great one. Like do you really want to
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  Speaker 3: hear a game called by those two?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 1: I don't because I remember and loved the games of
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  Speaker 1: the eighties and nineties that they called.
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  Speaker 3: It's like his NFL film is going to do an
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  Speaker 3: AI version of John Facenda, you know, and bring back
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  Speaker 3: that voice. I don't get it, like it if you
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  Speaker 3: always have one foot in the past, like the NFL
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  Speaker 3: is a bad example because they always make money. But
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  Speaker 3: like the NBA, it has always been like they always
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  Speaker 3: kind of put a shine on the past, but are
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  Speaker 3: always trying to move forward. Yeah, which is why this
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  Speaker 3: story kind of kind of surprised me. It's a little
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  Speaker 3: bat one yeah yeah, And I mean why not like
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  Speaker 3: round Ball Rock, I understand it's a song. It stupid
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  Speaker 3: as hell, but it's the catchiest goddamn thing I ever ever written.
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  Speaker 3: There's so many great like comedy bits written about it.
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  Speaker 3: I just why why don't why don't like major League
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  Speaker 3: sports like use AI to the like to the advantage
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  Speaker 3: of its fans. Yeah, meaning like if like during a game,
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  Speaker 3: spit stats out of me, Like have some kind of
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: bot something that can watch a game a player and
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  Speaker 3: be like, hey, three weeks ago this guy did this,
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  Speaker 3: and like we see a trend here, have it? Have
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  Speaker 3: it flash on my phone or have a flash on
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  Speaker 3: the screen, Like there's so many cool things you can do,
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  Speaker 3: and what what what's your like, what's what? What's your
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: your solution? You're going to go grave digging? Basically it's
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  Speaker 3: morbid and creepy, just as a human like standpoint. I
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: was thinking of, like are we going to bring back
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: like Herb Morrison? Oh I had to look it up.
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  Speaker 3: But he was a guy that did the Hindenburg. Oh
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  Speaker 3: the humanity? Like how far back do we want to go?
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  Speaker 3: This nonsense? I just think like, don't like the NBA
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  Speaker 3: has always been forward thinking, don't just stop with this shit.
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  Speaker 2: Who's clamoring for this stuff? No, that's the thing. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: is it just lazy or are they justifying it?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? It was so good for this time we gotta
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  Speaker 1: keep it. We gotta keep it and or bring it back?
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  Speaker 1: Is it just laziness? Because I don't know. There are times,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, you look at Hollywood at times and
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  Speaker 1: the recreation of certain movies or one offs of other movies,
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  Speaker 1: and you think, my gosh, Hollywood's gotten to a point
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  Speaker 1: where they're not really creative as much anymore, even though
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  Speaker 1: some things are anyway, Maybe that's a bad example, but
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  Speaker 1: like I feel like from a creativity standpoint, from from
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  Speaker 1: a media standpoint, like things like sometimes there are so
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  Speaker 1: many creative spaces and people doing things that you look
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  Speaker 1: at these major conglomerates and you say, how and why
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  Speaker 1: are you doing the things that you're doing right now now?
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  Speaker 1: Because there's better stuff out there. And like you said,
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  Speaker 1: there are so many better announcers that that we you know,
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  Speaker 1: you could use their voice on promo materials. We don't
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  Speaker 1: need to bring Jim Fagan's voice back. It just doesn't
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  Speaker 1: need to happen.
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  Speaker 3: No, And look at what got you successful in the
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  Speaker 3: first place. It's kind of the innovations within the viewing
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  Speaker 3: viewing ship of a of a game like camera angles,
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  Speaker 3: putting the camera over top of the court on a
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  Speaker 3: on a on a line, right, using drones that kind
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  Speaker 3: of stuff with cameras and like bringing back the voiceover
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  Speaker 3: thing is just it's just not forward thinking, like where
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: it is kind of cool, like you say, you're a
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Sixers game, and like they'll use Dave Zinco's voice going
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: on again the old he was the old you know,
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: spectrum announcer and I just got Julius the doctor, Like
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: they'll do that. That's cool, yes, But if it was
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: his voice AI generated and he's announcing fucking Quentin Grimes,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I don't like this at all. This
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: is right. It's insult to the mister zincoff. It was
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: the best of all time, and it just it's again,
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: just take a look at what got you there, you know,
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: successful in their first place. This is not the way
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: to do it.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Moving on this NBA playoff and postseason, Holy cow, Eric,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I just will get into it really quick here before
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: the break. But as of us recording this, there is
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: no home team that has won a playoff game in
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: the second round so far. Nothing is normal here, nothing
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: is going on. I think that I think Okase may
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: actually beat Denver tonight at home.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Thirty.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're at thirty, so like, that's probably gonna happen.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: And for those of you listening to this Thursday or after,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: so you know, okaysee may be the first team to
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: do that.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: But man, it is bizarre. You do not see this
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: in the NBA at all. You never see especially in
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: the postseason.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: And who the hell thought that the New York Knicks
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: We're gonna go into Boston and beat them the first
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: two games of the series. Give me a breath, Like,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not complaining necessarily because it's fun basketball.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: We've been watching some fun and interesting basketball when sometimes
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: the NBA postseason can be a little be a little shakier,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: and they're especially the first couple of rounds. It's been
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: interesting so far.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Well, especially as a gambler. The first round is pretty
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: pretty textbook. Typically, I've won a lot of money in
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: the first round, right, second round secon rounds a little harder,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: but not not too much. You almost always picked the
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: first You almost always picked the home team in the
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: first game because this team coming in typically has like
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: one day off and the other the home team had
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: like five days off. Yeah, this I think this goes
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: to show like how talented the league is top to bottom.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: The Pacers, I mean, go into Cleveland. Cleveland was the
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: top team all year long, record wise. They didn't have
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Darius Garland, but still and I like the Pacers, but
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: then you watch them in those two games and you're like,
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: you look, you look at the roster, and you're like,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: it's a good fucking team. Yeah, just as good as Cleveland. Honestly,
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: like top to bottom. They have seven solid dudes and
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: it's all you need in the playoffs, have a great coach.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: And I think the playoff rankings and the regular season
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: is just too long at this point for the NBA.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: I'll even say that as a fan. But like, I
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: think the league is so talented one through like twenty four,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: I would say even the bad teams that didn't get
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: in are pretty damn good, pretty talented. But this, this is, uh,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: the Knicks have blown my mind. I just have to
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: say it. We we drafted Bridges, the guy who made
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: the two top defensive stops in the playoffs so far. Yeah,
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: I know, to beat the defending champions at home. He
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: made both stops against their two superstars, yes, Jalen Green
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: the other night and tonight Tatum. But we got ready
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: drafted him. Yeah, yeah, we trade him for desires that night.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, that night, correct draft him and then you know what,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: actually we don't want you, just go.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Zire Smith has been out of the league for like
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: three year.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Jesus so fingers crossed for Monday, guys, fingers cross, which
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: I'm kind of going into our next absolutely.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's a good segue for sure, because when we
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: get back from break, we're going to talk about draft lotteries,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: whether it's the NHL Draft lottery or the NBA Draft lottery,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: and do we like draft lotteries. We also got some
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Eagles talk coming as well as some NFC East talk
• 21:29
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• 22:12
  Speaker 1: being said, we are gonna take a break and we're
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: gonna be back in.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Just a bit.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: All right, we are back, and we are gonna be
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: diving into draft lotteries. Look, the Philadelphia Flyers ended this
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: season in a way where no, they weren't tanking. This
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: was a team that was actually trying. However, they were
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: slated to be the number four overall pick heading into
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: the NHL Draft lottery, and after it was all said
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: and done, they fell to number six after the lottery drawings.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking a little bit more about the
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia Flyers, uh in terms of their draft and what's
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: gonna be coming to them next week, uh during U
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: with with the content on this podcast platform. So yes,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: they fell to number six after the lottery drawings. NBA,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: as we know, also uses the draft lottery, and who
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: the hell knows what's gonna happen to the Philadelphia seventy
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: six ers as they are going to We're gonna find
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: out a lot more this coming Monday as it pertains
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: to the Sixers. So I don't know about you, Eric,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Like there are of course pros and cons to draft lotteries,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: but I'm getting to the point where and I know
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: it's it's like, I'm getting to the point where I'm
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: just like, you know what, our draft lottery is even fair?
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Because I look at the Flyers situation.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: They were, they were not their number.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Four draft pick overall heading into this, and then they
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: became the number sixth and they had the uh the
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: the new Utah team actually basically took the number four
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: spot and they had a better record than the Flyers,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: And it really kind of like it just kind of
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: ticks me off in a way, like I wish it
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: was kind of like the NFL where there wasn't necessarily
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: the draft lottery. But I do understand that the draft
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: lottery does help weaker teams rebuild by giving them a
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: higher chance to secure top talent, and it discourages teams
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: from deliberately losing games and tanking. In the NBA, I'm
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: not too sure how much that works, but in the NHL,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I can absolutely see it. But I tend to think
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: that draft lotteries anymore are kind of kind of garbage
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: in my opinion. I don't know if you have a
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: different opinion. I think it's not as fair and just yeah,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on it? That's where I stand.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: I mean some mixed thoughts. I mean, let's face it,
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: if the Flyers jumped in number two, would you be
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: so mad?
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: You're absolutely correct, absolutely right.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: I mean every time the Sixers got a number one pick,
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: I was like, I like the lottery, it is great.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Now.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: It does like football is different because you can't you
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: can't really tank in football. There's sixteen games. Yeah, you
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: can do certain things, but there's so many players involved,
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: and there's like players fighting for contracts because there's no
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: guarantee contracts the NFL, whereas the NBA. You know, you
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: just sit all your look at the Sixers the last
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: what fifty games of their season. Maybe they were like,
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: we are going to lose, and that's just the way
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: it is. Teams wanted to do that year. Ending you're
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: out and go ten and seventy two every year and
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: you just game the first pick, Like what's their incentive? Like, okay,
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: we took the first pick didn't work out, We're going
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: to do it again. Yeah, and just again and again.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: Sometimes those teams have to be punished, you know, and
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: wind up with like the fifth or sixth pick. It's
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: not a perfect system, but they tried it without it
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: in the past, and the NBA got really fucked up,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: you know when that happened. Hockey, I have no idea.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: I I hockey usually follows the path of the NBA
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: typically because I think Gary Bettman for the longest time,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: wasn't he like a he was a David Stern guy? Right, Yeah,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: So there's a lot of the NBA DNA in the
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: NHLs like front offices, probably still to this day. But
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: I can see it both ways. I I don't. It
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: does create some excitement, that's for sure. Like I mean
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: May twelfth Monday is like I can't wait as Sixers fit.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, if what happened to the
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Flyers happens to the Sixers Monday night, okay, see it
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: gets our pick. We dropped two spots on the aft. Yeah,
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: we fucked I'll just say it. All season was a
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: disaster and it will be an unmitigated dumpster fire if
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: that if they lose that pick. Yeah, especially if OKC
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: wins the title. What a mess. But there's no there's
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: no good answer, you know what I mean. But what
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: I will say is I I didn't watch the NHL
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: one and I missed the days where they did it
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: live on the air. They pulled the ping ping pong ball.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Oh they did with the fly Yeah they or they
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: did with the NHL. Yeah, that is awesome. That's the
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: way you should do it.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like you if you want to, like keep me
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: on the lottery side, make it a show, like make
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: it like freaking Jeopardy whatever, ye dumb game shit you
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: think of. Like I don't like when they come out,
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: like here's the card, Like it's like I want to
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: see the ping pong ball. Like, let's make it fun.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Like you're gonna have conspiracy theories regardless. I know. That's
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: the nineteen eighty five NBA draft with Patrick Ewing. Everybody thoughtybody, yes, yeah,
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: that they froze the card or whatever. It was so ridiculous.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: And same with when Penny Hardaway got drafted by the
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Magic They think that David Stern fixes so you get
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Penny to scheck. But like, but so what I'm still
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: talking about it, like, just do it, just do it
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: live on TV.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I felt like seriously watching the NHL Draft lottery, I
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: felt like I was watching the Pennsylvania Lottery with the
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: with the balls that they were just like gone up.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Listen, if you watch the Pennsylvania Lottery from June ninety
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: eight to June of nineteen nine nine, that was me
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: on the camera.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Oh there you go, folks.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: There my Davy station actually did the Pennsylvania State Lottery.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Y ooh, fun facts. But with Eric here, I.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Would do the wide shot and then my partner would
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: do this medium shot, and then as the balls came up,
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: that was me zooming in and tilty.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Oh nice, all I need to go back and watch
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: some of this stuff.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Oh they're thrilling.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, right, well let's move on here into some
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Eagles talk and then again what we're thrown down on
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: the table this week, we're gonna talk to our friend
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Dave Holman from Bloggingtheboys dot com about the NFC East
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: in general. But with the Philadelphia Eagles. News came out
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: today and honestly it was welcoming news for me. I
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: was very happy to hear that the Eagles found a
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: way to resolve the Dallas Goddard contract impassed with a restructure,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: coming back for another year ten million dollars and with
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: one million dollars of incentives. He was initially due fourteen
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: million from the Eagles this coming season. So it's great that,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: you know, get it's an extra year here for him.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: And look, Dallas Goddard has been injured a number of times,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: as US Eagles fans know, but he's over these years.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: But he has been a fantastic tight end, especially when
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: it comes to the postseason, where he's among the best
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: in the league. Twelve career playoff games, fifty two catches,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: eighth most by a tight end, for five hundred and
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: sixty two yards and four touchdowns. It's nothing to sneeze about, folks.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: And we know how critical Dallas Goddard was in the
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: postseason on this recent run to the Super Bowl. Now
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: we're going to say that's gonna happen this next year, No,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: you never know. Again, he's getting older and more often injured.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: He has only since twenty twenty, he has only averaged
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: twelve and a half games per season, So yes, he
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: is missing some time. Howie Roseman here I think going
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: against some pretty strong trends from not only himself but
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: his front office, you know, believing at the end of
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: the day that Dallas Goddard was worth it, and and
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Goddard wanted to be here as well, because there were
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: rumors that during the course of the NFL Draft teams
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: wanted Goddard, but there were negotiations between the front office, Goddard,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: and other teams, and Goddard ended up wanting to stay
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: with the Birds. So I'm glad this actually happened because
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: without a very good tight end in Dallas Goddard, it
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: would have changed this offense a lot. And I still
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: think the window is open for this Eagles team that
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: they could potentially repeat this coming year if things work
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: out well and if folks stay healthy. So I'm liking
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: this contract extension.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's harmless financially for the Eagles. Yeah, you bring
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: back a popular player. Fans love him. I've never heard
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: of Dallas Goddard sucks comment in my life, right, Like.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: It's annoying when he's injured and stuff like that. Yeah, great,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Calcatara could catch the ball. Not a great blocker at all,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: in fact, thinks, but still nobody like you said, nobody
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: really complained.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: And griped about Dallas Goddard.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: No, he's a mountain of a man. He can block,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: he can catch when he's healthy. Again, popular player, so
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: help me out here. And NFL contracts are so funky.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Did did he have the option of like opting out
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: and going to free agency or was it just kind
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: of trade discussions? Was he under contract he couldn't talk
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: to anyone else.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: He was under contract, really couldn't talk to anybody. So
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: at this point he's still I mean, at the end
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: of the day, free agency was probably going to be
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: the way that he was going to go after this season.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: But you know, he had he had a decent amount
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: of leverage he did, especially after this postseason.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's a nice chunk of guaranteed change ten mil. Yeah,
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: a lot of players don't. I mean, there's probably really
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: good wide receivers. I don't have ten million guaranteed this year,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So that's a really nice
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: that nice chunk could change for him. Now, it's a
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: it's one of those it's a great how he this
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: ain't gonna hurt us. All it is is like there's
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: no there's no loss here. Yeah, in bringing him back.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: You know some fans might be like, one, I'd sign
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: him to a two or three year deal, but we
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: all know like all the all the front end money
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: would be guaranteed the first year anyway and be like
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: a one year contract. So yeah, no, there's no no downside. Again,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: I think how he's like makingame sure you no downside.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: His draft picks are smart, his trades are smart. Like
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: everything's like, you can't criticize me, Like what are we
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: gonna say I sctually gave him twelve like I should
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: give less money, Like it doesn't mean any Like he
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: makes really smart moves. He does.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Always got a long leash at this point, and rightfully so,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: rightfully so, and you know it leads us to what
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: we wanted to dive into before we got to this
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: week's interview.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Everyone is these.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Eagles drafts, say over the past five drafts, where how
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: he really has got his footing and really under stood
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: the draft process and the scouting department too. I mean,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: you can't it's not just how it's this Eagle scouting department,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: whether it's the pro scouting side and trying to bring
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: free agents here, or whether it is the college scouting side.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: You know, you look at the drafts from twenty twenty
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: one to twenty twenty five, Eric and I are going
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: to rank these drafts based on what we think are
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: the best. I mean, it's been a collective working group
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: of folks in the front office and inevitably Howie Roseman
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: really making these decisions here. But if we rank these
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: these top five the past five years, if we rank
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: these Eric, of course, like this year, we have no
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: idea what's going to happen. Even though I absolutely love
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: how the twenty twenty five Eagles draft went with four
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: defensive players right off the back at you know, linebacker
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: slash edge rusher with Jihad Campbell, and then you got
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: safe defensive tackle, cornerback. I'm sorry, the first five picks
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: and then linebacker as well, first five picks being defensive players.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I absolutely love that. But I am going to put
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five draft as my number five here.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: So do you want to do you want to start
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: off doing it like that? Here?
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: It's the same it's twenty twenty five because there's just
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: there's no ranking it. Yeah, I have no clue what's
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: going to happen. Right, but just from from from prior
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: drafts we're about to talk about, you could only be positive. Yes,
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: it's just a shit ton of upside and all these picks.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: So there are so all right, well, why don't we
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: go with the number four here? What if you have
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: to rank them your number four year from two thousand
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: and one to twenty and twenty four, you know, which
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: would be your number four year?
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Number four? I mean these are the draft these are yeah,
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: I mean it's not good. The drafts have been like
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, twenty twenty one is number four my list, Yes,
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: it is for me too. Yeah, it's Ante smith Landon Dickerson,
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Milton Williams, and then it kind of you know, he
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Kennet gained well, but like the rest of it's kind of.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: But Milton Williams was in that draft. He was their third.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: He was a third pick, you know, and he was
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: the highest paid free agent this year. So it's like,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, again, you still had a guy like Marlon
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Tuypolutu who was a contributor on the defensive line too.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: It was not a bad draft, But I'm there at number.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Four with you too. I mean, three starters from the uh,
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: from the super Bowl team in that, in that, in
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: that draft. But still there's better ones.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: There are there are, So let's move on to number three.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Who's your Who's the third best draft class?
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Do you think?
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: So we're at two thousand and two. All right, I'm sorry,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, or twenty twenty four?
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Which one is the number three for you?
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: This is gonna be seem blasphemous, But because I love
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: this guy so much, twenty twenty three is my number three. Okay,
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: I mean Jalen Carter, Nolan Smith, Tyler Steen, not like
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: I mean Jalen Carter just owned the NFL from the
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: defensive tackle position this this this past season. He's the
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: best defensive tackle. But again, I'm looking at the other
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: two and I'm like, holy crap, like so many I'm
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: good contributors, really really good draft. It's incredible, Like there's
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: gonna be a trend here in the rest of these.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: But like his how he's first three picks of like
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: the last five drafts. Yeah, just destroyed. Yeah, if you
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: get three starters in your first three picks, that is
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: a massive that's a massive win because they're all cheap too. Absolutely. Yeah.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: See, see, my number three is actually gonna be the
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four draft, as much as it pains me,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: because you had Quinna and Mitchell and Cooper Degen who
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: were your first two picks of the draft, such key
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: players this year on the way to the Super Bowl,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: and of course Cooper Degene making that incredible pick six
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, just taking it from Patrick Mahomes.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: My god, I love that. Just that what a great interception.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: But also from that draft two, look, you did have
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: a bit of a drop of you wanted to see
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: wide receivers like Anayah Smith and Johnny Wilson really stepping up.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: They really didn't in their second year. Dylan McMahon, who
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: was the very last pick in the sixth round, you know,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: I don't even think he is on the team. Will
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Shipley certainly, you know, had some snaps here and there.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Jalx Hunt is certainly a project as well. Jeremiah Trotter junior,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: who knows if he's going to be a contributor in
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: the future. But my number three is the twenty twenty
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: four draft, even given the sheer dominance by the two
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: cornerbacks who they took in round one and round two.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: That's where I'm at.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, And I made twenty twenty four my second pick. Okay,
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: it's probably a nosehair, you know what I mean.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Like, and I made twenty twenty three, yeah, third too, okay.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: And the only reason I bumped up twenty twenty four
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: or twenty three, it's just because, like, if there's been
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: one position the Eagles had flaws throughout the past couple
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: of years, it is the defensive backfield. Yeah, good players,
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: but they always you know, they got burnt quite a bit.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: There were some really bad games near the end of seasons,
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: like where the Cowboys killed them? What was it last
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: two years ago? When then going into the playoffs and yep,
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: that was always a tricky tricky point. And if you
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: go through his you go through I mean, I'm looking
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: at twenty one through twenty three right now. How he's
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: drafts and he's got I mean, there are no defensive
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: no defensive backfield players taken within like the first three
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: rounds zero like Sydney Brown, Zach mc or Zach McPherson.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Like it's it's it's not pretty right, but he decided
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: to nail that position down in twenty twenty four, but
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: not just nail it down, but made the right picks.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, Quinny and Mitchell is a ten year, hopefully
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Eagle starter shut down corner for the next however many seasons.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: Cooper Degen awesome playing the Super Bowl. I hope you
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: can stay healthy and be that like great safety that
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: the Eagles have needed for a long time. Yeah. The
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: only reason like why I put it just just a
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: hair above twenty twenty.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's interesting because with twenty twenty three for me,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three comes in at number two for me
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: one because of Jalen Carter, Nolan Smith, key contributors, you know.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: With regard to the Super Bowl run. This year, Tyler
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Steen has been a very very serviceable backup offensive lineman.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Possibly is going to be the starter at right guard
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: this year.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Kieley Ringo, Yeah, guess what. The guy really didn't get
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: on the field other than special teams. But he was
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: a special teams ace and was a major contributor in
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: terms of opposing teams getting deep into their territory. And
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: you don't have that this season if it's not for
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Keeley Ringo, Tanner McKee. We saw him as a very
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: very good backup quarterback. People wanting him over. What's his nuts?
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Can you pick it?
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, and Moro Jamo he is, he's going to be
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: a big time contributor this year for this Eagles team too.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: So like that's why it's number two for me. Completely
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: get where you're coming from. I really do, especially with
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: the two cornerbacks right off the bat with the twenty
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: twenty four draft. But number two is yeah, twenty twenty
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: three for me.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Two very easy, like easily flip a bowle drafts.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Absolutely well, we both have number one as the save
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two Eagles draft where you have only
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: five players folks. But my god, Jordan Davis, Cam, Jurgens,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Nakobe Dean who finally came into his own this year,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Karen Johnson.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Who is his lays always. Yes, he's on the Titans.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, he did play some with the Eagles though, And
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: you know there was you know whether or not he
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: was going to actually be a contributing member of the
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Eagles defense. But then and in Grant count Kata coming
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: in in a very serviceable backup to Dallas Goddard. But yeah,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Jordan Davis, Cam Jurgens Na Kobe Dean. Absolutely, this is
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: number one for me.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: It's not even close. I mean, like how he had
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: five picks that year. Yeah, pick picks. Three starters in
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: the first three picks, and not just not just serviable starter,
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: like serviceable starters, like like play making starters. You know,
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: Jordan Davis is not Jalen Carter, but I don't think
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Jalen Carter's job is as easy if Jordan Davis is
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: not next to him. Camp Jurggens, you know, took the mantle.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: He's the center from I mean, what a tough position
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: to step into this past season. The Kobe Dean's going
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: to be a stud. Grand Calcatara could be like the
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: next tight end for the Eagles, who knows, Probably not,
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: but like beyond a serviceable backup. You knocked out of
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: the park four out of five. I mean, how many
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: how many ship teams are like the Raiders every year?
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Suck Suck the Panthers, I mean, the Patriots were We're
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: in the toilet for a couple of years because Bill Belichick,
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: who's I would.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Love to have a show about that right now, And
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: you know what, we got to do that the next
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: time we really got to talk about.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Bill Belichick and what's happening in his life.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: My god, he was just just give me a minute,
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: like a stoic, stubborn son of a bitch, Like he
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: got away with murder with the media because he won
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: so many Super Bowls and he's a genius, and now
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: he looks like a doddering old fool who married a
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: call girl. Supposedly, it's increasing.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: He's a head coach off.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Yes, she cut off the I can't, but it's it's
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: I love it because screw the Patriots, screwed Bill Belichick.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: But it is awful to see a doddering old man
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: getting taken advantage.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, and the fact that they were supposed to do
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: a hard knocks down there at the at the University
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: of North Carolina happening now, no, not, She's the star exactly,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. It's incredible. What's happened to this gentleman's anyway?
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: People? Twenty twenty two drafts my favorite one.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, same here, folks, same here. All right, very good, buddy,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you head out here. Great show, great
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: discussions here. We're gonna be talking about the NFC East
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: with our guests this week, any final words before we
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: head out here.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I like you closing out the
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: show talking to a Cowboys fan.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: But I know, I know the guys at blogging the
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Boys are not bad. They're not bad guys. Well only
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: on Sundays.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I know.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Well that's that's about it here. I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: go to break and then I'm gonna jump off a bridge,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: break your leg. Yes, exactly, all right, buddy, see you later.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: And when we come back, folks, we're going to get
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: into some NFC East talks.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Stick with us.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: And now on the table and joining us from blogging
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: the Boys this week. It is a great s B
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Nation site. Yes, Eagles fans, I know it's about the
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys and he covers the Dallas Cowboys. However, great
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: great content. Always love the guys over Bloggingtheboys dot Com.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: We've got Dave Holman, Dave, Buddy, how you doing man?
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: Hey, thanks for having me. I'm doing good. It's you know,
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: we were chatting a little bit before him, like it's
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: the last few months have been a hard time for
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: Cowboys fans in general.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, especially you.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: Know going into the into enemy territory with an Eagles
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: podcast after right, So, but always happy to be on
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: the show, Always happy to you know, chop it up
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: with you. So thanks for bringing me back.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you, my friend, I really do. Look, I
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: wanted to bring you on to talk about what this
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: NFC East Division really looks like now, especially after the draft,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: after what we've seen in free agency. Quite frankly coincidentally enough,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: you know, we had planned to have you on for
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: a little while now, and then the news broke today
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: that the Dallas Cowboys are acquired George Pickens from the
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers in a trade. I didn't pull back the curtain, folks.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: I always provide our guests some of the topics that
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: we're going to be getting into. Obviously I didn't provide
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: this one since it basically just happened, you know, just.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: A few hours ago.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: But Dave, what are your thoughts on George Pickens coming
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: to the Dallas Cowboys if you had time to digest it?
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's it's funny because it feels like,
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: you know, there's been rumors, you know, every month of
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: this offseason about, oh, the Cowboys are trading for George Pickens.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: He's been floated so often as like the most logical choice, right,
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: especially after the Steelers traded for DK Metcalf, who fills
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: a very similar role. And so in a lot of ways,
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: like I've been prepared for this, right, I think that's
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: actually gonna happen.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: But I mean, and we'll talk a little bit about
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: this in the context of the draft as well, But
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: going into the draft, the Cowboys, a lot a lot
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: of people thought they were going to take a receiver
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: in the first round. A lot of people had their
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: eyes on Keetero and McMillan of Arizona, who he went
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: a few picks earlier, and then they pivoted to Alabama
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: guard Tyler Booker. So coming out of the draft they
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: didn't take a single receiver. At any point throughout the draft,
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: it kind of felt like a lot of people really
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: liked the players that they got, but they were also saying,
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: you know, well, who else is catching the ball? After
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: Seed lamb ceed gets double team, which he will, who's
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: going to catch the ball?
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: And this move really clears up a lot of that.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: George Pickens, I think his play style is a really
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: good compliment for Ceedee Lamb. Obviously, he's on the last
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: year of his rookie deal, so there's questions about how
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: long he's going to be round with the team, questions
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: about his maturity, questions about his play effort, and things
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: like that. There are a lot of things that it
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: could be boom, could be bust. But it's the kind
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: of player where I'm like, you know, I, that's the guy,
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: kind of guy that you take a chance on and
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: see if you can make it work. And I'm excited,
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: but also recognize it's not you know, this move is
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: not what's propelling the Cowboys to the super Bowl, right.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, the season is about taking chances with every NFL
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: team at the end of the day, whether it's free agency,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: you look at some of the talent that is brought
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: on by other teams, Dave, and not not just the Cowboys,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: just in general, whether it's the Eagles, the Commanders, the Giants,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: you know, the teams that we're gonna be talking about
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: on this particular episode and discussion.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: But that's what it is.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: It is a free for all of We have to
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: take a chance on somebody to fill holes and to
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: give us the best opportunity from a data driven standpoint
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: of what this person and talent can do for our teams.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: So again, folks, so we're talking to Dave here from
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Bloggingtheboys dot com. You are on the Twitter slash acts correct.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: I am, yes, I'm I'm on Twitter at underscore DH
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: four four underscore. I'm also on Blue Sky at DH
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: four four, so same thing, but without the underscores because
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: I was able to get in early enough.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Nice. Yeah, absolutely, it's key to get interview with some
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: of these sites.
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: I kind of alternate between the two but active on both.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: So wherever you are follow me, you'll get my thoughts
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: and great all my opinions on George Pickens and everything
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: else that comes into my mind at various points.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Sounds good.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Let's get into this NFC East division here, because you know,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: when we look at the division overall, Dave, it's always
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: a great division, just filled with a lot of rivalries,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: storied histories. I mean, this past year, two NFC teams
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: actually made the NFC Championship Game, one became the Super
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Bowl champion. But this has always been a very fluid
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: type of division with different winners every year. As we know,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: I mean it's over twenty years since we've seen a
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: repeat division champion. So when you look at the NFL
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: landscape in general, how would you assess the NFC East
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Division overall?
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: I you know, the NFC East is like it's such
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: a mystery to me every single year for that same
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: reason of they haven't had a repeat champ in a
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: long time, right, which is crazy when you think about it,
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: because you know, ring that same spin, you've got the
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: Giants and the Tom Coughlin era. The only team that well,
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: not the only team now, but for a while they
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: were the only team that could beat Tom Brady in
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. Eagles went on to do it, But
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: the Eagles also had the Andy Reid era, which was
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: a very successful time. Cowboys cycle through some coaches here
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: and there, but they always had you know, almost every
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: single coach during that span has taken them to the
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: playoffs and had various levels of success.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Been a relevant team. The Cowboys have been a very
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: irrelevant team.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: They're always they're always in it. They don't go very far,
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: but they're in it. But it's it's been a very
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: consistently competitive division. It still boggles my mind that we
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: don't have a repeat champion every year, every year that
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: it feels like this is definitely gonna be the year
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: something that happens. So for that reason, I feel like
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: there's the odds that the Eagles win the division this
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: year have to be zero at this point.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Exactly right.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: It gets me concerned as a fan, of course, it
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: absolutely does. So all right, well, let's dive into some
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: of these teams here. Let's first start off with the
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys first and foremost here the team that you covered, Dave.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: When looking at their off season and when you read
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: various articles you hear what the pundits have to say,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: it seems that the Cowboys had what someone would call
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: a rather quote week off season from free agency and
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: more holes than positions of strength, I think heading into
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: the draft, and then after the NFL Draft, I'm wondering,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: how would you assess where the Cowboys are in terms
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: of being a competitive team in the NFC East at
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: this particular point in time. Is we're recording here in May.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's so funny to hear the characterization
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: that it was a week or a quiet off season,
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: which is fair. The Cowboys do what they always do.
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: They don't sign a whole bunch of big names, are
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: not super involved in free agency, but comparatively to the
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: last few years, they were very active in free agency.
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: They didn't spend a whole lot of money still, but
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: they brought in through through outside external free agent signings
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: and trades. With the Pickens trade now in up to
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: that's fourteen guys that they've brought in from outside the organization.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: That's more than the last two seasons combined. So they've
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: been very active. Now these are not aside from George Pickens,
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: these aren't really you know, huge names. Linebackers Jack Samborn
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: and Kenneth Murray. One's a former first round pick. One
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: has a long history of playing with new defensive coordinator
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: Matt Eberfluss. They signed a few different offensive linemen that
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: have experienced starting in various roles but aren't necessarily going
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: to be sure fire starters, especially after drafting Tyler Booker.
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: So they did a lot of moves where going into
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: the draft, like I said, everyone thought they were going
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: to go receiver at some point early on, but outside
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: of receiver, it didn't really feel like there was any
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: position where Cowboys fans were gonna say, if we don't
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: get this, like, we are screwed. We have no other options.
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: The only position was wide receiver, and ironically it's the
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: one they did not address at all. Yes, but they
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: came out of this draft I think with some really
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: really great value in terms of the players that they got.
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: There's been a lot of conversation about Tyler Booker. If
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: you know it felt like a reach. I feel like
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: it was a reach. He was somebody that a lot
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: of mock drafts had going towards the end of the
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: first round, if not, you know, early second round. They
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: took him a twelfth overall. It's a little rich, but
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: at the same time, you know he's he was the
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: best guard in the draft. He's going to be a
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: plug and play starter at right guard, where they're now
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: losing Zach Martin who retired. Second round, they get Boston
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: College edge rusher Donovan as a ROKU who had sixteen
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: and a half sacks this last year. Pair him up
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: with Micah Parsons. That's nice. Third round, you get Savonne
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: Ravel out of East Carolina. Quarterback would have been a
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: first round player if he didn't tear his ACL this
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: past season, So you know, those are two guys that
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: a lot of people thought have first round talent, and
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: for a couple of different reasons, they were available where
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: they were. They got two running backs. That was another
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: big point of emphasis was, you know, they last year
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: they kind of punted on the running back position. Rico
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: Daddle turned out to be a thousand yard rusher. He went,
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: he left in free agency for the Panthers, and so
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: they drafted Jayden Blue out of Texas, philm MafA out
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: of Clemson. Kind of a thunder and lightning combo. Jamie
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: was very fast, he's kind of kind of thin, kind
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: of small, and MafA is the exact opposite, you know,
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: not the fastest guy out there, but he's just you know,
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: I think he's like two hundred and forty pounds of
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: pure muscle. Very much a short yarded kind of guy.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: And they feel really good about that combo, maybe not
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: necessarily being workhorse Duro right from the start as rookies.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: But some of those guys they brought in in free
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: agency also where Javonte Williams Miles Sanders. Of course, Eagles
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: fans are familiar with Sanders, two guys that have played
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: at a high level, but not recently, which is why
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: they were in the Cowboys range. So in a lot
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: of ways, the George Pickens trade is kind of the
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: cherry on top of what's been a very quietly effective offseason,
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: I think for restoring a lot of fans' faith in
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: this team, especially after the way that Mike McCarthy left
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: the team and then all the controversy, and I guess
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: just uncertainty about Brian Schottenheimer being elevated in a pretty
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: unorthodox way, going from non play calling offensive coordinator to
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: now he's the head coach, the offensive coordinator, the leader
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: of this team when nobody else was even considering him.
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: So all in all, from where we were at the
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: start of his introductory press conference to where we're at today,
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: I think the Cowboys have done a lot to earn
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: themselves some goodwill and make fans cautiously optimistic.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I got to say you mentioned one, Miles
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Sanders here. I am a Penn State fan. I am
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: a Penn State fan, as listeners of our show know,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: and it pains me every single time a Penn State
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: guy to the Dallas Cowboys. So some pain has been
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: shot through my heart this offseason just to let you know, Dave,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: so you know, on that.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: Note real quick. When the Cowboys were on the board
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: or on the clockt at twelve, Tyler Warren, Penn State legend,
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: Tyler Warren was still available, and I was I was tweeting,
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: I was posting on Blue Sky all over anywhere that
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: I could post. I was like, I want Tyler Warren, Like,
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: I know the Cowboys have Jake Ferguson, but I want
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: Tyler Warren. And of course they draft Tyler Booker. And
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: so when they get up there and they say they
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: select Tyler a heartstop and then they said Booker, and I.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: Was like, so, well, the same thing happened with me,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: because like Abduel Carter goes to the New York Giants,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna get into New York New York Giants
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: in just a second here, but yes, Abduel Carter goes
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: to the Giants, and Michael Parsons has been on the
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Cowboys now for some time, when Sean Lee was on
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: I tell you it's it's tough.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: It is very tough, Dave, to be a Penn State
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: fan and having to see them go to the Dallas Cowboys.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: But like I said, the New York Giants or who
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: I want to dive into next with you here because
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: like for many of us football fans, NFC East fans
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: and followers of our teams here, we just love seeing
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: what the Giants are doing or not doing. We love
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: their front office. We love Joe Shane as he blunders
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: his way through the off season here. Look, they went
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: heavy with the quarterback position during free agency with Russell
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: Wilson and with Jamis Winston. They drafted Jackson. Dart actually
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: moved up to get him. For me, again, the heartbreaker
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: was Abdull Carter going to this team with their first pick.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: But they still have a lot of holes all around,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: And I'm wondering, how would you assess where the Giants
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: are in terms of being a competitive team in this
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: division given the offseason that they've had.
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think I think their best case
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: scenario this season is basically being what they were in
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: Brian dables first year, where you know, you get a
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: couple of upset wins here and there, you beat teams
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: that are clearly worse than you, right maybe sneak your
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: way into the playoffs. Although I think the NFC crowd
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: is tougher this year than it was back in twenty
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: twenty one.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Especially with the healthy Daan Prescott, you know, coming in for.
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: Prescott, especially looking at the NFC North, how great they
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: were last year, and then their worst team just hired
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: you know, the best head coaching candidate in Ben Johnson.
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: So I think I think that's probably their best case scenario.
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: If the quarterback like comes into its form, whether it's
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: Russell Wilson, whether it's Jackson Dark, whoever it is. I
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: don't think best case scenario happens for them. But it
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: was really interesting to see how Joe Shane handled it
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: because he didn't really make moves that felt like a
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: GM who's on the hot seat, Yeah, you know, especially
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: not taking a quarterback, you know, third overall, going with
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: best player available in Obdua Carter and saying like, hey,
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: we can figure out quarterback. You know, obviously they trade
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: it up to get Dark, you know, and like you said,
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: the roster still has a lot of holes. It's not
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: like they've completely perfected this thing. But at the same time,
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: you look, you know, Russell Wilson was a very productive
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: starter in Seattle for a very long time. This past year,
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh, he was not super consistent, but he had
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: some definitely some really good moments here and there, and
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: they took him to the playoffs, so they can you
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: can be a winning team there. I really liked what
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: they did at running back with Kim Scataboo. As you
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: can see, I went to Arizona State, so I love
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: Kim Scataboo. I think he and Tyrone and Tracy are
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: going to be a really dynamic duo. There pained me
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: to see somebody guys going to Dallas paying me to
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: see him go to the Giants, and it took a
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: while for him to get drafted too, and I kept thinking, like, man, like,
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: when am I going to find out where he plays?
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: And of course it was to a division rival, so
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: that was hard to stomach. But I mean, outside of
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: the leak neighbors, they don't really have a whole lot
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: of weapon for Russell Wilson to work with. Don't really
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: have much of an offensive line, which is the biggest
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: concern for me is Russ is not exactly the best
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: with handling pressure. Yeah, and now he doesn't have an
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: offensive line. The defense that I think could be, you know,
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: could be good enough to keep them in some games. Now,
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: with all that pass rush they brought in on the secondary,
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: they brought in both Pulse and a Dvo and Javon
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: Holland to that secondary. I thought those were really good pickups.
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: But again, you're just you're looking and you're like, you've
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: got some talent here and there, but it's not really
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: a complete team. I could see them going the route
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: of like they can get pull some upsets here and there.
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: They're not going to be as bad as they were
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: this past season. But if I were a betting man,
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: which thankfully I'm not, I would probably pick them to
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: finish last in this division. Yeah, but I think that's
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: mostly just that mostly just speaks to how talented this
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: division is right.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Now, I think, and I know I also think it
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: speaks to how poorly, frankly they have actually drafted over
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: the past say, three to four years. I mean, this
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: is a time when your team you want those players
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: from even three years ago to be starters, to be
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: real solid contributors to your team. Not seeing that necessarily
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: with this New York Giants team, for sure, But what
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: we are seeing.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: That was his first that was Shane's first pick. Yes, now,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: Brian Burns, Abdua Carter. Where does he fit into the rotation?
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, on the edge, absolutely absolutely. But like, there is
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: a team in this division that I think really shocked
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: us all this past season, and that is the Washington Commanders.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: So let's get into this commander's team and their offseason
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: because they do wonder what Jaden Daniels will do for
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: his encore this coming season. Dave, It's hard to believe
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: that he's gonna put up the same kind of performance
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: that he did this coming year like he did last year.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: I mean we saw it with Jalen Hurts and Philadelphia.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Certain teams figure you out here and there, and then
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: as the quarter back and leader of an offense, you
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: need to be able to adjust. It's gonna be interesting
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: to see how Jayden Daniels does that adjusting this coming season.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: Now they have talent and Laramie tunsl Deebo Samuel of
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: course is on offense. Type of weapon will he possibly
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: be for them? Trey Amos is now in the secondary
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: for dan Quinn's defense here. How do you think we
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: should be looking at this Commander's team A team again
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: went to the NFC Championship Game this past year as
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: this team is really moving forward a lot of momentum
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: with this new stadium. Talk as well, what do you
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: what do you think about the Commanders here?
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: Well, the first thing I think about when I think
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: about the Commanders is how badly I want that for
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: the Cowboys, right because they have you know, they have
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: Dan Snyder, this owner that fans have just universally hated.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: They got rid of them. Yes, everything's coming up Commanders. Yes,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: and then you know Jerry Jones is getting on and
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: he's talking about you know whatever Jerry Jones talks about,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: We're just man, We're stuck with this.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: Till his dying day.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: Yes, and they have Dan Quinn as the head coach,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: who of course came from Dallas and a lot of
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: Cowboys fans wanted him to be the next head coach
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: whenever Mike McCarthy was done, so a little bit of
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: jealousy there also, Like I said, I went to Arizona State.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels first played at Arizona State and then he
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: eventually transferred to LSU in the wake of the recruiting scandal,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: which of course was perpetrated by head coach and former
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: Philadelphia Eagle Herm Edwards. Yes, yep, just one more way
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: the Eagles have caused me Immen's pain in my life.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: But anyway, to the point about the Commanders, though, Yeah,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: I think, I mean, they have a lot, a lot
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: of good momentum going for them. I think that they've
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: handled the off season probably in the best way because
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: Jayden and Daniel is all. It's all going to come
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: down to Jayden Daniels, like he powered them to that
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: great year last year, and a lot of people looked
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: at that and said, well, their defense was pretty terrible.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: So they're probably going to spend all off season trying
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: to beef up their defense, and they you know, brought
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: some guys in here and there, Like you said, tree Amis,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: I think he's going to be a really good starter
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: in that defense. But they also really, more than anything,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: doubled down offense. Like you said, they traded for Tunsul,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: They drafted Josh Connery, another offensive lineman in the first round.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: Getting Deebo Samuel is big. It seems like their whole
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: their whole offseason approach was how can we really go
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: all in on offense, make sure that Jaden Daniels has
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: enough support that one he doesn't have to shoulder the
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: load all year like he did this past year. And two,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: how do we prevent him from having a sophomore slump?
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: Now that said, it could still happen. He starts missing
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: open guys, he starts making the wrong read on those
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: option plays. You know, no amount of talent in the
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: world will make up for that. So it really still
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: does come down to the quarterback and how he's able
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: to handle it. And you know, having watched him at
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: Arizona State and then following him when he went to LSU,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: my general impression is that he won't have much of
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: a sophomore slump because this is a guy with just
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: a really high work ethic, high football IQ. I think
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: he's somebody that is going to attack it in the
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: right way. You mentioned Jalen Hurts and how team kind
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: of figured him out after a little bit. He also
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: then he changed his game a little bit.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: There are adaptions. Yeah, he's you know, and I think.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: Similar mental makeup of you know, Jayden's the kind of
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: guy that he's going to figure out how to figure
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: out who them figuring him out? Yeah, And uh so
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: that's that's really I think in my mind the hope
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: for the Commanders not being as good as if jayde
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: Daniels just drops the ball, yes, which I don't see happening,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: but a guy can help.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. We all have hope.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: This is the time of year in the NFL, during
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: the off season where we all have hope. And I
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: say that as being a Philadelphia Eagles. Of course, they
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl this past year, and the hope
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: is that there is a repeat in the future. So
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: let's talk about this Eagles team here. I think still
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: slated to probably be one of the top powerhouses in
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: the NFC and likely in the NFC East Division. Dave,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: I mean they lost some talent on defense, like Josh Sweat,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: Milton Williams, losing CJ. Gardner Johnson, I'm very I was
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: very concerned about that in terms of the back end
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: of the defense, but they drafted Jahad Campbell, who was
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: one of the most versatile defensive players in the draft.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: The offensive corps is still there, including an offensive line
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: that just punishes defenses in the trenches. What are your
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: thoughts on how the Eagles and their offseason has gone
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: thus far and how they're looking as a team moving forward,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: possibly being able to repeat if you can, you know,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: take off the you know, take off the the Cowboys
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: blinders for just a second, you know, in an objectionable fashion.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: How do you see this Eagles offseason going?
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think, I mean, he's like, where
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: do I go in this? Here? The biggest thing for
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: me anytime that a team is coming off a Super
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: Bowl way and is how much of that Super Bowl
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: hangover going to be an impact? Absolutely, it's very real.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, the last time the Eagles won a Super Bowl,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: you guys almost missed the playoffs. You had to win
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: the last three games of the regular season. You're snuck
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: in as the last playoff team. And that was with
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: Doug Peterson as the head coach, which I don't think
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: it's controversial to say he's a little bit more of
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: a stable personality than Nick sirial It's a little more
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: volatile and when things are going bad with Sirianni in
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: that locker room. So and even I mean the year
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: after the Eagles were in the Super Bowl and lost
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: to the Chiefs, that was the season where they brought
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: in Matt Patricia, right, and.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: Yes, it was just a disaster. I mean it was
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: it was falling off a cliff like we've never seen,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: like we've never seen Dave.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: And one of my favorite seasons personally.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Yes, I would imagine.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: Yes, you said, how you're a big fan of Joe Shane,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of Matt Patricia. There you go,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: and but but really I do always question how much
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: that hangover is going to be an impact there. And
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: then you know, I look at the Eagles roster, like
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: you said, a big part of that offensive nucleus is back.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: But I think you guys are rightfully the odds on
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: favorite to repeat in the division. But I also see,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: definitely see a world where things kind of fall apart
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: a little bit. You know, Saquon Barkley, we know he's
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: had the injury history. He had more carries last year
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: than he's ever had in his entire career. Is he
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: gonna be able to hold up?
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I honestly I cannot see Saquon Barkley having the
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: same amount of carries the yardage that he had last year.
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  Speaker 1: The ball is gonna need to get thrown around or
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  Speaker 1: given to other weapons on the offense.
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  Speaker 2: He just can't. He can't have the same type of
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  Speaker 2: season he had last.
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  Speaker 4: Year, right, it's it doesn't seem He'll probably still be good,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: it just doesn't seem as sustainable. And then you've got
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: a J. Brown and DeVante Smith. They've alos miss missed
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: some games with injury this past year. Dallas Goddard's kind
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: of getting up there in age and they maybe trading him,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: who knows. And of course there's the change in offensive coordinators,
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  Speaker 4: so you know, there's I'm not saying that like the
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  Speaker 4: offense is gonna fall off, Cliff, but I'm like, if
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: you're looking for a way that that they don't think, yeah,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: you can see how, you know where those things would
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: would happen a little bit. You mentioned also some of
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  Speaker 4: the guys that they lost on defense. You know, Vic
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: Fangio is an absolute genius. He'll find a way to
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  Speaker 4: make up for it. But there might be a couple
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  Speaker 4: of games here and there, especially early on, where the
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: defense struggles a little bit before they iron out the Kings.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: In such a competitive division, that might be. Again, if
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: you're looking for a way to explain how they don't
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: repeat his division champs, that might be where it comes
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: into play. But yeah, I mean this is you know,
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  Speaker 4: Howie Roseman is one of the best gems in the NFL.
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  Speaker 4: He is always going to figure out how to plug
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: those holes, how to add talent. If he ever gets
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: into the regular season and he feels like I haven't
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: done enough, he will make those trades. He will be aggressive.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: That said, I didn't really love their draft. I didn't
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: hate it, but in terms of the four NFC East teams,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: it was the one I liked the least. You mentioned
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: Johan Campbell obviously very versatile player, but it is also
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: the first time since nineteen seventy nine the Eagles drafted
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: an off ball linebacker, which also in that same draft,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: you guys also took a kicker in a punter, so
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: this was very much before the position value was like
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: a big thing in drafts, very different time. But it
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: just felt like and trading up a spot to take
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: an off ball linebacker, even though he does offer pass
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: rush value, it felt very non Howie. And then I
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: loved and the Andrew mccuba pick. I thought he was
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: really undervalued. And then all the other guys that you
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: took I don't really see making a huge impact year one,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: although they all have like potential to develop into starters
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: down the road. And yeah, yeah, and necessarily being like
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: they're gonna be They're gonna be part of the twenty
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: twenty five team in a meaningful way. So again I
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: don't I didn't think it was a terrible draft, but
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: it you know, when when the Campbell pick happened, I
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: saw a lot of people that were like, how he
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: does it again? And I was like, when he traded up,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: I assumed it was gonna be for a receiver and
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: offensive lineman, a pass rusher. Yeah, because that's what the
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: Eagles do. Yeah, And I don't know, I wasn't. I
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: wasn't completely blown away, but all right, I mean the Eagles,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: you know, coming off of Super Bowl, you don't necessarily
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: need to find, you know, all the best playmakers because
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: obviously you just had enough talent to win the Super Bowl.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, well, buddy, that's gonna do it for us here
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: as we're running out of time. And I gotta tell you, folks,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: it was great talking to him again. Dave Howman from
• 1:11:21
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  Speaker 2: Dave buddy.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: It was great talking to you, man, seriously, so much fun.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be great. I'd love to have you on
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: at some of the point down the road, we'll talk
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: more NFC East and where these teams are at. I'd
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: love to have you back, my friend.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm always down love chatting with you. Hopefully
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: next year we're talking about after a Cowboys super Bowl.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: There you go, right, there you go. I'm not hoping
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: for it, but look for you. Let's hope for it
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: for you. Okay, we get we get in there.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: It would it would be for your Penn State Micah Parsons,
• 1:12:04
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I love that spin. He's Dave hamminfolks Bloggingtheboys dot com. Buddy,
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• 1:12:14
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, thank you, and.
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