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Taking Flight With JOHN GALLAGHER From RAVEN · HEAVY Music Interviews

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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen. I'm under duress. I'm being held
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Speaker 1: here by Chris Peters and this is John Gallagher from Raven.
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Speaker 2: Oh buddy, thanks for joining us and the sufferings today.
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Speaker 1: It's a it's a pressure and an obligation. Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Welcomes Raven Hit Australia and just a few slaves made
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Speaker 2: for the Hell forire astray into kicking off in Brisbane
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Speaker 2: and November seventh, then Hit in Melbourne, sitting over consecutive days.
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Speaker 1: I've got to tell you that the Brisbane show is
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Speaker 1: not happening.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 1: Apparently the promoter was caught with his pantstone with some
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Speaker 1: underage children. I don't know what was going on there,
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Speaker 1: but that's not happening. I can't even see if things
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Speaker 1: say that anymore. It's not even funny these days.
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Speaker 4: It can't be. But it's not. It's not because I
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Speaker 4: live in Brisbane and I was.
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Speaker 1: It's probably fel fould what's happened all over the world
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Speaker 1: since COVID. All of a sudden after COVID, every band
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Speaker 1: wanted to go on tour because they'd all been sitting
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Speaker 1: rotting for eighteen months, two years.
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Speaker 3: And.
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Speaker 1: There'd been a number of bands went out on tour
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Speaker 1: at the tail end. I mean we went out again
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Speaker 1: twenty one in the States in like September October, and
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Speaker 1: it was fantastic. People were so happy to be out
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Speaker 1: of the house. But it was weird, you know, like
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Speaker 1: you couldn't get a meal. We were living on gas
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Speaker 1: station food because restaurants were closed. And what happened is
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Speaker 1: a lot of bands would say they're going to tour
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Speaker 1: and then oh, the lead singer got COVID and they'd
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Speaker 1: canceled and people weren't getting their money back. And this
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Speaker 1: happened a lot, and people were like, you know what,
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Speaker 1: I'll go on the day. I'm not buying a ticket.
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Speaker 1: I'm not getting screwed. And of course the promoters hate that,
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Speaker 1: so it's like they don't care if there's a walk
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Speaker 1: up of four hundred people. You know, they want four
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Speaker 1: hundred tickets, and if you get one hundred tickets, let's
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Speaker 1: just say, well, I'm not going to meet money. I'm
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Speaker 1: counseling now. I don't want to lose my shirt. And
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Speaker 1: it's a vicious circle because the more they cancel, the
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Speaker 1: more people go, well, I'm not buying a ticket. They're
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Speaker 1: going to cancel the show, and you know this is
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Speaker 1: just the post COVID landscape. I guess, you know, we
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Speaker 1: have to deal with it.
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Speaker 4: And there's no real quick solution either.
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Speaker 2: Like as you say, you can understand the public not
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Speaker 2: wanting to buy tickets in advanced because they have been
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Speaker 2: screwed over in the past, But promoters have got to
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Speaker 2: know roughly what's coming in so they can playing around it.
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Speaker 2: It's that you've got to get the consumers trust back
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Speaker 2: up again.
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Speaker 4: But how do you do that when the other.
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Speaker 5: Side it's you know that people have going to meet
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Speaker 5: in the middle to promote us have to deal with
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Speaker 5: you may not sell as many advanced tickets as the.
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Speaker 1: Previously world and you know, be upfront that if anything happens,
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Speaker 1: they will refund the money, you know. And at the
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Speaker 1: same time, the punters of kind of you know, they
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Speaker 1: want to see Barns, they've got to put the money
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Speaker 1: in their pocket to get it out and buy a
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Speaker 1: ticket because that's unfortunately where this wheel works. You know,
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Speaker 1: if you want to see you want to see some
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Speaker 1: cool music, you got to buy a ticket, you know.
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Speaker 1: So people, if you can do that, it's one of
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Speaker 1: the ways you can support your favorite bands, buy your ticket,
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Speaker 1: buy a vinyl, buy CD, buy merch and tell Spotify
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Speaker 1: to you know.
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Speaker 4: Do that.
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Speaker 2: That's right, Well, that's the bad news out of the way.
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Speaker 4: They brough unforcedly.
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Speaker 2: But this would be your first visit to Australia since
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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen.
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Speaker 4: So what's changed with the band between visits?
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Speaker 1: Yes, well we've done twenty nineteen. Well, we had the
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Speaker 1: Dreadful Pandemic. Of course, we got a brand new album,
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Speaker 1: All Hell's Breaking Loose, which came out last year and
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Speaker 1: we've been touring it ever since. And you know, coming
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Speaker 1: around your part of the planet means we've pretty much
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Speaker 1: circumnavigated the globe that somebody was telling me online just before. Now. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we we did a lot of a lot of shows,
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Speaker 1: did a lot of touring this year, so we're really
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Speaker 1: looking forward to that. And it's off fiftieth anniversary, So
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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy four to twenty twenty. Foard's one crazy ride,
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Speaker 1: I got to tell you. And it's still hard to
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Speaker 1: get my head round that because a friend of mine
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Speaker 1: sured me your list that was online, you know, bands
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Speaker 1: with the greatest longevity, and we were in the top ten.
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Speaker 1: It's like Aerosmith, The Stones.
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Speaker 4: And Us fantastic.
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Speaker 1: They're not that really just like, oh, that's too weird,
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Speaker 1: that's too weird. You know, it's uh, you know, it's
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Speaker 1: it's a cool thing. It doesn't happen very often, so
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Speaker 1: we've made sure we got out and about this year a.
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Speaker 2: Lot quite A new press release says a more intense
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Speaker 2: live band does not exist on this planet.
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Speaker 4: Like not down you at all.
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Speaker 2: Brother, that's a pretty big statement for him to make
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Speaker 2: a live up to you.
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Speaker 1: Not really, it's what we do. Go watch some videos.
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Speaker 1: We'll put bands who are you know, teenagers twenty year
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Speaker 1: old will put in the shame because we go out
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Speaker 1: to kill one every day and it sounds like bluster
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Speaker 1: or bes but it's not. It really isn't. And come
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Speaker 1: to the show and that's what we do. We have
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Speaker 1: a hell of a good time and we get everyone
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Speaker 1: in on the act, you know, because we're you know,
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Speaker 1: we grew up at a time where the bands we
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Speaker 1: saw were performers and entertainers and they reached out and
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Speaker 1: they grab So the first band we ever saw the
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Speaker 1: opening that was Slade, and the opening band was the
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Speaker 1: sensational Alex Harvey band. Imagine being like a fourteen year
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Speaker 1: old kid seeing the sensational Alex Harvey band I changed
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Speaker 1: our lives because there you've got a guy who literally
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Speaker 1: reached across and everyone's face and freaked them out. And initially,
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Speaker 1: who's this band? I don't care? I want to see Slade?
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Speaker 1: Who are these guys? And by the end made everyone
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Speaker 1: in the place was screaming for him. They were amazing
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Speaker 1: And that's the kind of thing that went ahead. That's
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Speaker 1: how you do it. That's how you do it, you know.
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Speaker 2: So and start off with that attitude, bro, But over
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Speaker 2: the years and years go by, they start relying more
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Speaker 2: on technology and your pyrotechnics and stuff like that. But
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Speaker 2: it'll be a lot more easier just as you say,
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Speaker 2: just sit there and connect with the audience on this
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Speaker 2: level rather than try and.
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Speaker 1: Bright it's it's not and for some people it's it's
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Speaker 1: just something that they're not good at doing. Uh. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's take the old story about who's the greatest guitar
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Speaker 1: player where he's probably sitting in somebody's bedroom and you'll
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Speaker 1: never hear them because they're not a performer and they
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Speaker 1: don't have the other skill sets that are required to
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Speaker 1: be a professional musician or a successful professional a musician.
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Speaker 1: You know, I go and see your bond and they
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Speaker 1: either look like they've just clocked in the work, or
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Speaker 1: they're looking at the floor, or they've got attitude, or
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Speaker 1: if something breaks they get all upset. Nah no, no, no.
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Speaker 1: There's a huge band in the progressive world that we
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Speaker 1: played a festival with a few years back, and his
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Speaker 1: effects processor died. They stopped in the middle of a
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Speaker 1: set for thirty five minutes, and halfway through it, the
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Speaker 1: other guitar player came out, played a quick Eddie von
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Speaker 1: hale In style solo for two minutes to get the
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Speaker 1: crowd going, and then he walked off. It turned out
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Speaker 1: this guy had back up equipment, but he was being
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Speaker 1: a prima donna and wanted them to fix the real
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Speaker 1: one that's in front of ten thousand people. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: I've seen bands where stuff went wrong when they were
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Speaker 1: playing a pub and they'd get the spoons out or
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Speaker 1: they jump, and they would try to keep it going
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Speaker 1: and sometimes you can't, but they make an effort. So
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Speaker 1: you know, that's like one hundred and eighty degrees away
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Speaker 1: from where we are. You know, we're a three piece band.
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Speaker 1: There's no safety net. Something goes wrong, You've got to
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Speaker 1: make it happen. Yeah, and that's sometimes that can be.
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Speaker 4: Fun, challenging, but fun.
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Speaker 2: Now with you and supports the band from Peru called Hyena,
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Speaker 2: So what can you tell us about them?
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Speaker 1: Apparently we've got to feed them dog foods, So I
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Speaker 1: don't know. I've heard they were a good bunch of arts,
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Speaker 1: which should be a great show. It should be fun.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely well.
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Speaker 2: I've been looking forward to picking your brain about this one, mate,
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Speaker 2: because you seem like an honest person and you know
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Speaker 2: what you're talking about. So yourself and your brother Mark
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Speaker 2: form Raven back in seventy four, mates, So what was
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Speaker 2: a musical climate like back then they gave birth to
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Speaker 2: the band and where did you guys fit in?
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Speaker 1: Well, we were you know, we were the kids who
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Speaker 1: grew up watching Top of the Pops with Slaves, Sweet
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Speaker 1: Scary Glater, Status Quo, the glam Stuff, t Rex that
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Speaker 1: because it was bombastic loud, had loud guitars on it,
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Speaker 1: and then you know there was the one rock show
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Speaker 1: on the radio once a week and say Ah Deep
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Speaker 1: Purple led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Wish, bonn Ash Rory Gallagher
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Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. You know, Montrose came along seventy three,
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Speaker 1: blew everybody's head off, you know, all these bands and
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Speaker 1: we we would religiously go to the City Hall in Newcastle,
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Speaker 1: which was a theater held like maybe twenty two hundred people.
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Speaker 1: We were so lucky, you know, the kids in the
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Speaker 1: States to go see a band, didn't need binoculars to
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Speaker 1: see who the hell was on stage. You know, we
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Speaker 1: had all these great bands. You know, I camped out
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Speaker 1: in the snow all night for tick It's for Richie
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Speaker 1: Blackmore's Rainbow on the first tour and that was worth
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Speaker 1: every minute of its status. Budgie uh, you know Ian
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Speaker 1: Gillen when he had the you know, the band with
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Speaker 1: Bernie tore me stuff. We saw everybody and that was
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Speaker 1: our education. You'd watch and go, you know, why does
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Speaker 1: this work? Why does this not work? And the opening bands,
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Speaker 1: why are they you know, why are people hating them? What?
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Speaker 1: What are they doing right? What are they doing wrong?
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Speaker 1: And you know we would soak all this in like
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Speaker 1: a sponge, you know, and we'd go out and play.
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Speaker 1: We started playing the pubs and the working men's clubs
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Speaker 1: and if they didn't like you. They'd tell you we
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Speaker 1: usual to get the beer mats that come up with requests,
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Speaker 1: so you know, we'd be playing covers and slip some
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Speaker 1: originals in all the way through and be like, you know,
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Speaker 1: Highway store, Oh you know, victim of changes, or the
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Speaker 1: favorable one was fuck off. You know this.
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Speaker 4: Thing is that one was.
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Speaker 1: This was our you know, paining the juice, learning how
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Speaker 1: to reach out to and sometimes apathetic audience and grab
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Speaker 1: them and either get them on your side or if
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Speaker 1: they hated you, ramp that up so that they wanted
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Speaker 1: to kill you, because you know, the worst reaction you
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Speaker 1: can ever get is a no reaction that you don't
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Speaker 1: want that you know.
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Speaker 2: All sayings I made like if someone came up and
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Speaker 2: gave a band these days toaster that said fuck off,
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Speaker 2: they probably walk off stage because they're being disrespected.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they they'd start to cry. We were just laughed,
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Speaker 1: you know. It was hilarious, that's right. And of course
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Speaker 1: most of these clubs were south of the River Tain.
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Speaker 1: You know, we're from Newcastle and the rival town is
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Speaker 1: ten miles away, Sunderland, so they were all Sunderland supporters.
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Speaker 1: So always it was next up the boys from Newcastle.
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Speaker 1: That was you know, two or three times a week.
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Speaker 1: We just rowed with it and you know made it home.
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Speaker 2: The new way of British heavy metal exploded in the
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Speaker 2: early nineteen eighties. Mate, So what was that period actually
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Speaker 2: like to be involved with and be there for the
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Speaker 2: birth of that, Well, it was, you.
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Speaker 1: Know, it was not what a lot of people imagine
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Speaker 1: a lot of people imagine that it was something like
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Speaker 1: the Monkeys, where all the bands were living next to
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Speaker 1: each other in houses and they all had their new
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Speaker 1: Wave of British heavy metal club card or something. You know,
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Speaker 1: I'm a founder member. Everyone was doing their own thing,
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Speaker 1: but you could tell it was a changing of the
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Speaker 1: guard and things were you know, we could play out
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Speaker 1: where it was really tough during the punk thing, you know,
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Speaker 1: and you know we played the punks. We won the
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Speaker 1: punks over because they loved the energy part of it,
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Speaker 1: you know. But it was you know, a lot of
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Speaker 1: things happened at once. We got a new drummer in
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Speaker 1: Robhun at the beginning of nineteen eighty, We wrote some
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Speaker 1: really cool songs, we played a show, we went as
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Speaker 1: a three piece, and then the manager of the Tigersupan Tank,
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Speaker 1: came to a show and source was how would you
14:34
Speaker 1: like to do a single for Neat Regwords. So we
14:37
Speaker 1: went from playing cubs and clubs in the space of
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Speaker 1: three months to opening for Iron Maiden, Nosey Osbourne and
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Speaker 1: motorhead As and it just went from there on in,
14:49
Speaker 1: you know, so you could tell, you know, before we
14:54
Speaker 1: had the neat Roods thing, there was a music paper
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Speaker 1: once a week from London called Sounds and you look
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Speaker 1: at it and you hear, ah, you were a British
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Speaker 1: heavy metal what's all this about? And you got in
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Speaker 1: England there was the same thing happening all over the country,
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Speaker 1: which it was. And we were very lucky in that
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Speaker 1: there was a small record label, Neat Records, in our hometown.
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Speaker 1: Otherwise it would be the old story. If you want
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Speaker 1: to make it, you've got to go to London and
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Speaker 1: that was a long way away for young lads from Newcastle.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: Was it actually competitive between the bands there or did
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Speaker 2: the bands all sort of support each other to help
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Speaker 2: the grid?
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Speaker 1: Uh? Kind of in the middle. I mean it was competitive,
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Speaker 1: but a lot of the bands did respect each other.
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Speaker 1: I mean there were some great bands from the Northeast
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Speaker 1: that we played with, absolutely and slightly older guys like Fist.
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Speaker 1: They were a great band. On mentioning them, but yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: on one of the first trips down there, there was
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Speaker 1: a bounds that later revolved into the band Thunder I
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Speaker 1: think they were called terror Plane, and their manager pulled
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Speaker 1: the power on us after fifteen minutes. That's one of
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Speaker 1: the few teams we've ever had that kind of professional
16:18
Speaker 1: foul ever happened. You know, we basically wanted to kill somebody,
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Speaker 1: but I guess the person did a runner, so he
16:32
Speaker 1: got away with it. We just resolved that if anyone
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Speaker 1: ever tried that next time, we'd end up in jail
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Speaker 1: for murder. I think our first show in the States,
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Speaker 1: the band Riot tried to sabotage us during our show. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: they went to the stage box and took the bass
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Speaker 1: guitar and put it on the vocal channel and put
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Speaker 1: the kick drome on it. They did this low trying
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Speaker 1: it was over. Yeah, didn't make any difference.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, as a band that you actually gave Metallica an
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Speaker 2: Anthrax their first of the rules, mate, So have they
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Speaker 2: returned the favor since?
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Speaker 1: Uh, well, I'm still waiting to Scott. Come on, Scott
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Speaker 1: s Actually we saw Charlie, We saw Frankie and their
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Speaker 1: Jewey at one of the festivals earlier. I was great
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Speaker 1: to see those guys. Awesome love those guys. Metallic has
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Speaker 1: let us. We've played with them in Brazil in twenty
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Speaker 1: fourteen at seventy thousand capacity stadium which was incredible, and
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Speaker 1: they did their tribute to John and Marsha's Azula in
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Speaker 1: Florida back in twenty three and invited us to come
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Speaker 1: and open that too, which was incredible. So yeah, they
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Speaker 1: you know, they've they make no bones about seeing how
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Speaker 1: they've been in fluu Inston. They've got respect for us,
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Speaker 1: and that's really awesome. You know, that's cool.
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Speaker 2: So you actually mentioned, just mentioned about the fact that
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Speaker 2: these bands do pay a lot of respect to you,
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Speaker 2: and that's been a little bit humble mate, Like you're
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Speaker 2: considered by many who have played a significant role in
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Speaker 2: the development and the success of thrash metal. But that's
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Speaker 2: the outside of the look of you guys. But from
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Speaker 2: the inside, what do you consider your contributor to the music?
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Speaker 1: Uh, well, we were just one of the guys that
18:31
Speaker 1: took what was out there as you know, as it
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Speaker 1: goes and kind of revd it up. We cut a
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Speaker 1: lot of the fight out. You know, we weren't going
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Speaker 1: to play a riff forty two tames when you could
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Speaker 1: play at four and then get onto the next cool riff.
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Speaker 1: And we just put a lot of a lot of
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Speaker 1: energy into it. And you know, we, by no means
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Speaker 1: were the only band doing that, but we were one
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Speaker 1: of the first to really rev it up fast with
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Speaker 1: things like the Wiped Out album. I think that was
19:05
Speaker 1: pretty groundbreaking at the time. And when we played in
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Speaker 1: Germany in eighty three, I remember we did the soundtrack
19:15
Speaker 1: and I went out I had my bass, a red bass.
19:18
Speaker 1: I went out there and starting the parking lot, was
19:20
Speaker 1: talking to the kids and the you know who were
19:23
Speaker 1: listening to the soundcheck. There's a lot of people hanging
19:26
Speaker 1: out outside because it was like an old day type
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Speaker 1: of deal. And these kids creator Rage, Doro Pesh. It
19:37
Speaker 1: was all those German bands, All those kids they either
19:42
Speaker 1: formed the band after seeing that show or it inspired
19:46
Speaker 1: them to go on and do other things. And they've
19:48
Speaker 1: all told me this over the years. Amazing, amazing, like
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Speaker 1: literally ten to fifteen musicians who formed major German bands.
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Speaker 1: Crazy crazy, that's pretty cool, you know, because you know
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Speaker 1: the feeling when you see your favorite bounds in the
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Speaker 1: inspire you to have somebody come up and tell you
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Speaker 1: that that's really cool, and you know, you treat them
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Speaker 1: well and hope that they'll treat the next generation of
20:16
Speaker 1: kids who are going to come along and pass the
20:19
Speaker 1: torch to them too.
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Speaker 2: You know, how do you when someone that you admire
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Speaker 2: respect that much actually tells you that they like, how
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Speaker 2: did How do you react?
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Speaker 4: Like it'd absolutely floy you'd be that proud and humbled.
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Speaker 2: But if you can't say too much, it's got to
20:35
Speaker 2: sit there and small and grin and just go, yeah,
20:37
Speaker 2: that's cool.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it's you know, yeah, you know,
20:41
Speaker 1: you know when it's real or when somebody's just blue
20:43
Speaker 1: and smoke up your ars or whatever. But no, it's uh,
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Speaker 1: it's nice. You know, it's nice because there was a
20:51
Speaker 1: period of time where you weren't getting a lot of that,
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Speaker 1: you know, through the like the nineties, not at all,
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Speaker 1: and we had the fights long and hard to close
21:04
Speaker 1: back to anywhere near where we were in the eighties,
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Speaker 1: you know, due to having a commercial album out on
21:11
Speaker 1: Atlantic in the mid eighties and also the way music changed,
21:17
Speaker 1: you know, all of a sudden. There we were at
21:19
Speaker 1: the tail end of the eighties where you had to
21:21
Speaker 1: be glam or thrash, and we went either, and then
21:26
Speaker 1: that all got washed away by grunge, and it's like, well,
21:31
Speaker 1: you know, remember when we played with the punks, Here
21:34
Speaker 1: we go again, you know, and it will come back.
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Speaker 1: And by it got to ninety seven ninety eight, it
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Speaker 1: had came back. Metal was getting popular again. But just
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Speaker 1: as we were starting to make some inroads. And my
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Speaker 1: brother had a dreadflax in two thousand and one and
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Speaker 1: nearly died, so it took him like three four years
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Speaker 1: before he could walk again. So that kind of lord
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Speaker 1: us up a bit. But you know that again made
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Speaker 1: the wheel of chain move just a little bit further
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Speaker 1: in our direction, so it actually helped out.
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Speaker 2: It was all right, you've been going fifty years as
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Speaker 2: a band, like you say, Bro, Like a lot of
22:18
Speaker 2: bands these days, they stop making records at a certain
22:22
Speaker 2: point in their career and just keep touring on the
22:23
Speaker 2: back of their odd ones, which is fine.
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Speaker 4: They're happy doing that on the back catalog.
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Speaker 2: But you guys are still churning out new music like
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Speaker 2: your last Our Money came out last year, Bro, So
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Speaker 2: how important is it. Do you think to keep that
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Speaker 2: creative side of a band going rather than just resting
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Speaker 2: on your laurels.
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Speaker 1: I guess oh, it's it's incredibly important. It's you know,
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Speaker 1: it's one of the main reasons we do this. It's
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Speaker 1: a you know, we are a live band. We love
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Speaker 1: playing live. But I'll get a huge kick over just
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Speaker 1: sitting here and you know, coming up with her whatever.
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Speaker 1: I'll pick up a guitar and do something later that
23:02
Speaker 1: and go oh, that could be cool. And then you
23:04
Speaker 1: go to whatever you know and make ideas, tape them,
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Speaker 1: play with them and go oh, the guys are going
23:16
Speaker 1: to love this, and then they'll go, oh, you could
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Speaker 1: do this, and we all bounce ideas off each other.
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Speaker 1: That creative thing is huge. It's huge because you know
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Speaker 1: both the live and that there's nothing and then you
23:32
Speaker 1: pick up an instrument and create something out of thin air.
23:36
Speaker 1: Same as the live show. Nothing's happening. Guys get up
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Speaker 1: on stage, plug in, boom, there's music. It's pure magic,
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Speaker 1: it really is, and we're so lucky to be able
23:47
Speaker 1: to do that. So we're going to keep doing it
23:50
Speaker 1: as long as we we can.
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Speaker 4: Brother.
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Speaker 2: Before I let you go, I've got a new segment
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Speaker 2: I've started called Fido Bomb. Basically means before I talk here,
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Speaker 2: I troll through your socials and I come up with
24:02
Speaker 2: a couple of photos that I want to know a
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Speaker 2: little bit more about.
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Speaker 4: So can you one will? I start with this one?
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Speaker 4: Is he picking the those there? Or is he scratching?
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Speaker 1: I've never seen that one. That's fantastic. Oh a little
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Speaker 1: bit of your nose and fraught surgery going on there.
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Speaker 1: I think you that's a good one. You can't remember it.
24:33
Speaker 1: I don't remember that one. I go look that one up.
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Speaker 1: I haven't seen that one.
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Speaker 4: From two thousand and thirteen according to my.
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Speaker 1: Notes there you go. Yeah, I I need to go
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Speaker 1: look at my photos more often than that's a good one.
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Speaker 4: And the other one I've found is this one.
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Speaker 1: Like I'm go that one that's the last sure of
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Speaker 1: the Killer All for One tour.
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Speaker 3: That's it the the Keystone Club in San Francisco, and
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Speaker 3: that is mister James Headfield jumping up at the.
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Speaker 1: Last song on our Uncle Ah. Fantastic.
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Speaker 2: Well, they're their memories that lived with you for like
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Speaker 2: you don't even need a fighter for stuff like that
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Speaker 2: day Bray.
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Speaker 1: No, it's uh We actually talked to James quite recently
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Speaker 1: about that, and you know, James back in the day
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Speaker 1: was quite the drinker, and we're like, do you remember
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Speaker 1: anything from that? I don't remember much from back then,
25:37
Speaker 1: it says, but I remember everything about that tour. Yeah right, wow,
25:44
Speaker 1: it's it's imprinted. We uh, you know it wasn't It
25:49
Speaker 1: wasn't particularly glamorous, but the shows were fantastic. It's one
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Speaker 1: final one then bright like.
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Speaker 2: One day down the track, and I hope it is
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Speaker 2: long in the future. Maybe when Raven does Call of
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Speaker 2: the Day, what do you hope the inscription be on
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Speaker 2: your musical tombstone.
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Speaker 1: Order faster Loader.
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Speaker 2: I think someone's use that one, haven't they. We did
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Speaker 2: one of you, so sorry, John, Well, thanks very much
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Speaker 2: for your time, Bro. I'd been an absolute pleasure. Raven
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Speaker 2: Or in Australia November the eighth and ninth in Melbourne, Sydney.
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Speaker 2: No Princebane unfortunately, which means I'm going to have to
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Speaker 2: shove my planes that night because I was coming down
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Speaker 2: to say la.
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Speaker 1: Ah, well next chamb Brillert you.
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Speaker 4: Too easy and everyone else out there.
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Speaker 1: Will she you soon?
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Speaker 4: All right? May you take care and keep smiling Bray,
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Speaker 4: you're an inspiration.
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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. T care