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- 1:28So please welcome to Into the Channel, Miriam Karabe.
- 1:33What's up? That was a very great
- 1:35introduction. Thank you so much for
- 1:36introducing me. Of course, a pleasure to be here
- 1:39with you guys. It's I've always heard your
- 1:40introductions but now to get to see it live is just 10 times
- 1:44cooler. I appreciate that you weren't.
- 1:49Absolutely, Absolutely. Yeah.
- 1:50Welcome to the show, Miriam. You are doing a good amount of
- 1:53your own Olympics coverage. So as Grant mentioned,
- 1:55definitely go out and catch that.
- 1:57But now we are here to talk about Canada, a team that you
- 2:01know very well, you have a lot of thoughts and takes and feels
- 2:04about. I want to start with, obviously,
- 2:07this team is the reigning gold medalist, but we've seen them
- 2:11sort of like wax and wane here. What do you think this team's
- 2:15ceiling is heading into this tournament?
- 2:17You're starting strong here. I think with this Canadian team,
- 2:23they've looked very differently from last summer, but also last
- 2:27summer they looked very differently to the summer before
- 2:28it. And they've also looked very
- 2:31differently in the Olympics, the last edition of the Olympics.
- 2:33So we've seen a lot of different eras almost.
- 2:35So you could say in transitions in this Canadian team over the
- 2:38past few summers that when you compare their last Olympics to
- 2:42this one, it's a completely different set of players and
- 2:45even Beth Breezman that you're assessing.
- 2:48So if you were to ask me this question last Olympics, I would
- 2:51have told you the ceiling would have been another bronze.
- 2:53And that's particularly because of how closely Beth Brisman was
- 2:56appointed. It wasn't like she got a a ton
- 2:58of time with the senior players to prep.
- 3:01But now it's a little bit different.
- 3:03She's kind of built the squad on her own.
- 3:05She has worked with every single player that she called up with,
- 3:09you know, a few years and all. And it's funny enough that a lot
- 3:11of the players that she's currently working with and has
- 3:13been working with, she used to coach when they were in the
- 3:16youth stages. So this is a team that she he
- 3:19has really molded with her own tactics, with her own
- 3:22improvements, with their, with their own vision that she's
- 3:25wanted to implement on this team.
- 3:26So I think assessing their ceiling this time around is a
- 3:29little bit different, but so is the opposition that they're
- 3:31going up against. You know, Spain, for example,
- 3:35that was not the opponent he most feared a few years ago.
- 3:38But now it's like you go into any big competition and it's
- 3:40like, OK, well, this is our ceiling, but we also have Spain
- 3:43as possible opposition and that completely changes the
- 3:45conversation. But I think for this Canadian
- 3:47team and I and I think specifically following the World
- 3:50Cup and in some ways we saw them extremely fragile at the World
- 3:53Cup, but most fragile in the back and in that defense line,
- 3:57which was the far complete opposite of what this Canadian
- 4:01DNA team is all about. And in some ways we have seen
- 4:05that DNA be a little bit more bold and and coming out again of
- 4:09a great defensive Canadian team, which for me is what redefines
- 4:13their ceiling of being able to podium again.
- 4:16No, I think like I mentioned it, it's hard to say that Canada can
- 4:19go and win gold when you have the reigning World Cup champions
- 4:23who simply look unbeatable. But I think for this team and to
- 4:26to see their progression, their very quick progression that they
- 4:29made after the World Cup. Granted, there's a few roster
- 4:32selections that you know, definitely give you a brainage,
- 4:35but to assess the work that Beth Riesman has put in, I think it's
- 4:37a team that is capable of podiuming and it's a team that
- 4:40has a lot of qualities that would push them to podium.
- 4:42They know how to do the Olympic schedule.
- 4:45I think often that is the biggest and toughest challenge
- 4:47that these new teams are debuting teams or teams that
- 4:50aren't experienced with the Olympics struggle with.
- 4:52It's hard to keep your players fit.
- 4:53It's hard to be able to rotate with 18 players.
- 4:56It is a really difficult schedule.
- 4:57Like the World Cup schedule is, is wildly different to the
- 5:00Olympics in Canada. You know, pre Beth Priestman
- 5:04with Beth Priestman know how to handle that schedule and for me,
- 5:07that is what possibly sets them apart from the other teams
- 5:11because they know how to deal with that.
- 5:13And like I mentioned, this is a set of players that she breast
- 5:16Faceman has worked with very closely.
- 5:18She's got molded this team together.
- 5:20They've been in the highs and the lows where it's almost like
- 5:22they're equipped to deal with anything that comes their way
- 5:25that suits them up for a podium. And so I think a realistic
- 5:29prediction would be probably seeing them get a bronze making
- 5:33it into that third spot playoff. It's a playoff that you know,
- 5:37also has played very well in their odds.
- 5:40They they know how to win that game and we've seen some crazy
- 5:43battles in that third spot playoff.
- 5:45I think a final obviously would be fantastic and their route
- 5:48actually looks quite possible if you do a lot of the math.
- 5:51But I think realistically looking at the opposition and
- 5:53some of the roster selections that give you a brain itch and
- 5:56perhaps some of those questions would be answered closer to the
- 6:00competition when we see them have a game or two win.
- 6:03But really, realistically, right now, almost a few weeks away
- 6:06from that ball being kicked, I think a bronze is what they'll
- 6:08be looking to achieve. And I also don't think that's a
- 6:10bad outcome for a team who crashed out of the World Cup in
- 6:14the group stages in a devastating fashion, in an
- 6:16embarrassing fashion, too, and a team that is under a bit of a
- 6:19transition. This is the first Olympics that
- 6:21Ken has been to without Christine Sinclair.
- 6:23Like, we cannot undermine the fact that this team has only
- 6:26ever been to that competition under her leadership, under her
- 6:29voice, under her captaincy, under her locker room mindset.
- 6:34Like, it's a bit different. There's no Sophie Schmidt,
- 6:35there's no Alicia Chapman, there's no there's a race Scott.
- 6:38Like there's a good set of veterans, three time Olympians
- 6:43that are not there. We're seeing a fresh set of
- 6:44faces. But I'm also very excited to see
- 6:46how these youngsters do because I, I, I rate them very highly.
- 6:50And you know, I'm sure we'll get to talk about players more
- 6:52specifically, but it's a different kind of Canadian team
- 6:55than what we have seen in previous editions and most
- 6:57certainly this most recent edition as well in Tokyo.
- 7:00That's a really great point, Mariam.
- 7:02And so you actually leave me perfectly into the follow up
- 7:05question, which is OK. So no Sinclair, no Schmidt, no
- 7:08Chapman. You think about the prospects of
- 7:11possibly meddling if you had to pinpoint a player or maybe two
- 7:15or three who would need to really come through for this
- 7:18team to reach that ceiling, Who are you looking toward?
- 7:23I think there's a, a few players that I won't say Canada will
- 7:26look to depend on them because he cannot depend on a, on a
- 7:29player to like. I think that's a mindset that no
- 7:32head coach is going to have. But I think Leon and Adriana
- 7:35Leon's fine form, you know, 2024, even finishing 2023 has
- 7:40been superb. And it's not just the number of
- 7:43goals that she's scoring, but rather the clutch goals that
- 7:46she's scoring. You know, against the US, she
- 7:48took them to extra time. She is so gritty, she's so
- 7:51chaotic, like she gets into the box and Canada loves to draw
- 7:55penalties. I think penalties in Canada are
- 7:57like really good best friends, specifically when you're talking
- 8:00Olympics. And so Leon for me, is not just
- 8:03a player that is able to score from outrageous angles, but
- 8:07she's a player that brings some sort of chaos that leads the
- 8:10opposition to make mistakes, which is exactly what we have
- 8:13gotten to see post World Cup. So it's not only her plays, it's
- 8:17not only how, you know, she's able to attribute and goals and
- 8:19assists, but the energy that she brings onto the pitch.
- 8:22And so for me, making sure that Adriana Leon continues on this
- 8:26fine form that she's on, she's fired up.
- 8:29And, you know, she's mentioned in a lot of press conferences
- 8:31that she's never felt more comfortable in the team.
- 8:33And perhaps she's kind of been given this leadership role in
- 8:36some ways. Like I think she's 3031 around
- 8:39that and she's been with the steam since her young teenage
- 8:42years. So it's been building up that
- 8:43she seriously gets to thrive now.
- 8:45So I think it generally on and how great she does up top.
- 8:49We'll talk a lot, but it's also important to make sure that she
- 8:52stays fit and you know, looking at the options that they can
- 8:54rotate with. The Evelyn Viens is a player who
- 8:56just finished her best season club football.
- 8:59I think we're still struggling to see the best Evelyn Viens in
- 9:03a Canadian shirt and that's particularly because she never
- 9:06played in the youth system. It's like she's just learning
- 9:08this Canadian. She's just learning
- 9:10international football in some ways.
- 9:11She's obviously a gold medalist. She was with them last edition,
- 9:14but perhaps she hasn't been given the minutes.
- 9:15So when you look at those set of players, those set of attackers
- 9:18that have been scoring for club and country, it's really a
- 9:21generally on that stands out. But like you mentioned, it's
- 9:23going to be a set of players that will have to shine.
- 9:25I think for me to Jesse Fleming, she is great.
- 9:29And, you know, everybody knows how great Jesse Fleming is.
- 9:32I'm not going to sit here and make a case for why she is one
- 9:34of the best. But it's a matter of hitting
- 9:36that consistency with Jesse where she's able to be the
- 9:38Fleming that we know her to be for 90 minutes or forever
- 9:41minutes that she's playing. Sometimes, just sometimes she
- 9:44goes a little bit hidden. And that perhaps is a an outcome
- 9:47with some of the partnerships that she plays with.
- 9:49You know, admittedly, the partnerships that she's been
- 9:52working with have been because of Friesman trying to, you know,
- 9:55try something different, try to figure out who are the best
- 9:57materials there that she wants to call out.
- 9:59There's been injuries to Quinn. There's been obviously Desiree
- 10:02Scott and now. So the partnerships haven't been
- 10:04settled. And that is a point that worries
- 10:05me of like, does Beth Brisman know her best midfield
- 10:09partnerships? In my eyes, it's Simi Wuju and
- 10:12Jesse Fleming that give you the best and most comfortable
- 10:15midfield. But for Canada to have that
- 10:18leadership mindset, to have their best qualities really come
- 10:21out, you're going to have to see a lot of it be contributed to
- 10:24Jesse Fleming in the middle. So generally on Jesse Fleming
- 10:27are going to be two players that you know, how good they do on
- 10:31the field is really going to matter for how good Canada does
- 10:34this entire Olympics competition.
- 10:36Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. And I think we've obviously seen
- 10:38Leon play really well obviously in the lead up here last couple
- 10:41months. But I do want to rewind back to
- 10:44the 23 World Cup. Obviously you mentioned Canada
- 10:47kind of flames out in very forgettable fashion.
- 10:49You know, we we all know Australia is not four goals
- 10:52better than Canada. And then you also touched on
- 10:55defensively, you know, maybe this team kind of turning a
- 10:57corner. So what what would you say is
- 10:59the biggest difference kind of if we zoom in between, you know,
- 11:02defensively the wheels coming off last World Cup and kind of
- 11:05like the form that the team is in right now?
- 11:08Well, I think there was a few things too that we must consider
- 11:10and to how they went into the World Cup.
- 11:12They had no send off, they had no preparation games.
- 11:15They had a single game in France and it was like A1 odd game in
- 11:18the middle of nowhere, like it was a camp and then they played
- 11:20a single game and then all of a sudden they were in Australia
- 11:22like it was a didn't feel like a preparation camp.
- 11:26It was also, you know, that Australia game is certainly want
- 11:29to forget, but it was the weekend before the Australia
- 11:33game that this team was bargaining on a table with the
- 11:35federation about a deal. I'm not sure how many
- 11:39preparation days they had or how many training sessions that they
- 11:41were, how many training sessions they had ran, but there's no
- 11:44situation that a team going into a final group stage match should
- 11:49be set at a bargaining table. They haven't spoken as to how
- 11:51that's affected them mentally, but it's not rocket science to
- 11:54know that. You were talking about the fact
- 11:57that you haven't been paid for a few years.
- 11:59There's, you know, a lot of conditions that you're not happy
- 12:01about. You're being told that the
- 12:02programs are getting cuts and then you have to go out and try
- 12:06to win against Australia. You have 90,000 people or 80,000
- 12:09people in the stadium against them if they weren't set up to
- 12:12succeed. Now, with that being said, I
- 12:14think Beth Friesman got a lot of things wrong.
- 12:16The entire World Cup and particularly that Australia
- 12:19game, the starting 11 perhaps wasn't the starting eleven that
- 12:21would suit the opposition of defending against Australia, but
- 12:25it also felt like that team went and defeated, which is a really
- 12:29odd kind of approach that we haven't seen from Canada.
- 12:32Beth Priesman never really goes into games.
- 12:35You know, I don't know if it's her British accent or just the
- 12:38way she talks, but she's always giving a bit of a motivational
- 12:42speech, even if she's just answering questions and
- 12:44oppressor. And so it's really hard to
- 12:46imagine how that team got out of the locker room already looking
- 12:49deflated, already looking like they're on the back foot.
- 12:53And they like really slipped into the fact that they're at
- 12:55the underdogs. And it's like you always are.
- 12:57But they really got comfortable into that role.
- 13:00And, you know, Vanessa Jills and can you show Buchanan?
- 13:02I think that duo is a scary partnership.
- 13:06But both of them looked so out of sync.
- 13:08They looked so out of communication, you know,
- 13:11fluidity, that back line. I mean, you'd go back and
- 13:14rewatch a lot of these replays. They were looking at each other
- 13:16like what just happened, who was marking who and who is behind
- 13:19who. They looked lost.
- 13:21I think we haven't been able to attribute to why they looked
- 13:24lost. When a lot of these players talk
- 13:26about the back line and keeping clean sheets, they take a lot of
- 13:29pride in these clean sheets. I spoke to Caitlyn Sheridan not
- 13:32so long ago, and she said that we celebrate clean sheets almost
- 13:35more than we do scoring goals. Like it is in our DNA if we're
- 13:39not going out with a clean sheet, that is really
- 13:41disappointing. You feel that air of we just
- 13:44conceded a goal in the locker room.
- 13:46And so this team really cares about making sure that they
- 13:49concede the least amount of goals.
- 13:50And really, in the simplest soccer terms, you don't concede.
- 13:54Chances are you won't lose. I mean, you take it to
- 13:56penalties, but you're still not losing.
- 13:57You just set yourself up for a really, really good position.
- 14:00And so that team looked deflated.
- 14:02Their mentality looked defeated. So did their mentality these
- 14:05this entire World Cup. I think Beth Frisman, I asked
- 14:08her in the presser this Mexico game in Toronto right before it
- 14:11was a send off series. And I said, what did you learn
- 14:13most from the World Cup up to now?
- 14:15And she said in the World Cup, they lost their values, they
- 14:18lost their core identity. And she was too preoccupied to
- 14:22make sure everybody was happy, which is when you have to take
- 14:25tough decisions, chances are not everybody's going to be happy.
- 14:27And this core identity in these core beliefs in these, you know,
- 14:31this mindset in this character that they really pride
- 14:33themselves on, they lost it. And I think when a head coach
- 14:36comes out and admits that, it shows you that they've learned
- 14:39and they've where they were wrong.
- 14:41But it's a really raw answer that this is exactly where we
- 14:43went wrong. There was so much that happened
- 14:45on the pitch, but we just didn't approach it the right way.
- 14:47And so defensively, I think they've locked up.
- 14:50I think their mindset looks sharp.
- 14:52And I don't think many people are expecting Canada to go in
- 14:54and have a good tournament, particularly because of what
- 14:56they showed at the World Cup. And they kind of thrive under
- 14:58that situation. Like, sure, they're going in as
- 15:00the Olympic champions, but nobody's really considering them
- 15:03as the Olympic champions. Feels like the dialogue is
- 15:06Spain, Germany, Australia, the US obviously, but nobody's
- 15:10really talking about Canada. And it's a position they've
- 15:12always been in. Like they fly under the radar.
- 15:15Canadian media is talking about them, but it doesn't feel like
- 15:17anybody's batting on on them. And I don't necessarily hate
- 15:20that either. Sure.
- 15:22That's that's understandable. Like don't look at us, just
- 15:25leave us alone. And then we can come in there
- 15:27and and exceed expectations. Yeah.
- 15:31You know what we're talking about Canada.
- 15:32How about that? Heck.
- 15:33Yeah, very few, but you're definitely one of the few that's
- 15:38giving them a good shot and as they should be getting a good
- 15:41shot. Like this is the Olympic
- 15:42reigning champions. I think people love to say it
- 15:43was a fluke and, you know, they didn't score many open play
- 15:46goals. It was boring.
- 15:47Like these are the comments that we see and I'm not going to be
- 15:49oblivious to, you know, what the majority of the public says.
- 15:52Like, yes, it was most of the time not the most fluid, like
- 15:56attacking insane football, but if that's what they have to do
- 15:59to an Olympic medal, like I'll be doing that too.
- 16:03So if it takes a few goals and a few penalties to win an Olympic
- 16:08medal, so be and and two, if it's like, if it's really that
- 16:11easy to just defend and and sit low and get a penalty, why
- 16:14didn't every team do that? You know, Sweden could have done
- 16:17that and the US could have done that and Brazil could have done
- 16:18that. They didn't have an easier route
- 16:20to win gold. So there's always going to be
- 16:22criticism, but it's like everybody could have given me
- 16:25boring football, but it obviously isn't, you know, that
- 16:28easy. So, you know, they get a little
- 16:30bit of slack, but I don't think they're too worried.
- 16:32They're certainly not listening to that, and I love that about
- 16:34them too. The banners hang forever, the
- 16:37metals sparkle forever, so anybody can say whatever they
- 16:40want, but you guys are the reigning defending Olympic
- 16:43champions. As you pointed out.
- 16:45So I'm really interested in when you talk about kind of Bev
- 16:48Priestman acknowledging the shortcomings of the World Cup
- 16:52and kind of like getting back to reinstituting a culture and
- 16:56looking at defending. I always think about how young
- 17:00players factor into that kind of culture setting.
- 17:03They need to look at the more experienced players and kind of
- 17:06soak that up and figure out, OK, where do I like inject my
- 17:10personality and how I want to fit into this profile.
- 17:13So when you think about that and Dino and I say this every time
- 17:16we talk about Canada, every time I look at your guy's roster, I
- 17:19go, man, there are a lot of good players on this team.
- 17:21And likewise I looked at the young players and thought, man,
- 17:25they have a lot of good young players on this team too.
- 17:28So if you had to pick, you know, one or two, again, we're not
- 17:31we're not too rigid on this. If you needed to look at one or
- 17:34a couple of younger players, kind of that under 23, under 24
- 17:38year old mix. Who are your youngsters for
- 17:41Canada? You think maybe the world might
- 17:42get an introduction to in this tournament?
- 17:44It's going to be the two NCAA kids, as Beth Priesman says,
- 17:49Jade Rose and Simi Uuju. It's honestly crazy to look at
- 17:54their play and say they're not even playing professional
- 17:56soccer. They don't even play in a
- 17:58professional schedule and they look this good.
- 18:00Like, I think it is scary to look at these two and say they
- 18:05play with such mature soccer in such a calm manner and their
- 18:09skill set is so built, but they don't even play professional
- 18:13football. Like every, it's every time I
- 18:15watch them, I'm in awe because they're really that good.
- 18:18In the fact that, you know, Simi Wuju got a trip to the World Cup
- 18:21and is now going to the Olympics tells you a lot about her
- 18:24potential. I don't know what the stats are
- 18:27of like the top 10 ranked FIFA teams that are taking players
- 18:29that are not even professional, but I feel like the fact that
- 18:32Canada are taking two certainly tops the charts.
- 18:35An A-Team player roster, like you're taking as many
- 18:37experienced players as you could and it says a lot about the
- 18:40potential that they have and it says a lot about what is seeing
- 18:43from them in training. This Canadian team and the
- 18:47players that were up for grabs to take to Paris are some really
- 18:51tough opponents. Simi, would you like the
- 18:54midfield? There's some good competition
- 18:56there. She's a youngster.
- 18:57She's a a dual American citizen. She wasn't picked up by the
- 19:01Americans, which is a pretty common thing.
- 19:04It's a pretty common occasion that happens in.
- 19:06Canadians benefit greatly from that.
- 19:08But for me, she is so good. She's so silent.
- 19:11It's almost like nobody really knows notices The Dirty hard
- 19:14work she does, but the stability she brings into the midfield and
- 19:18the calmness. Sometimes often Canada can
- 19:20engage in like a bit of a ping pong situation, particularly in
- 19:23the second-half when tensions rise.
- 19:25And we saw that particularly against Mexico, a fellow
- 19:28CONCACAF team that really likes to get physical.
- 19:30Assuming would you brings in like this good calm, sharp eye.
- 19:34She knows how to dribble. People ask me like who do you
- 19:37compare her to? And I it's a crazy comparison,
- 19:40but it's like almost a young, small Kim Little.
- 19:43And the way she knows how to calm the ball, she knows how to
- 19:46see pockets. She works very well with the
- 19:49back client. Like she is a really great
- 19:51player. She's young, she makes mistakes.
- 19:53So does Jade Rose. Mexico's goal here in Toronto in
- 19:57the send off series was probably because Jade Rose was a marking
- 20:01the runner. She ran too fast just But these
- 20:04errors, you don't see them from Jade Rose.
- 20:07But I think it's great that she was able to make a mistake this
- 20:09close to the Olympics because you'd rather her get that lesson
- 20:12now before heading to the Olympics.
- 20:13And Jade Rose again is a player that I'm a very big fan of.
- 20:16She has gone up against some of the best in the world,
- 20:19particularly the Sam Kerr. You know, I look back at Canada
- 20:21had two games in Australia friendlies, I want to say end of
- 20:252022, I want to say, but Canada had about A2 game.
- 20:29In Australia and they won both, but Jade Rose was a standout
- 20:33player because she had a solid game just shutting down Sam
- 20:37Kerr, which there's not a lot of players that can do that and
- 20:39certainly not a lot of non professional players that can do
- 20:42that. She's calm.
- 20:43She's so mature and and I've asked her once, I'm like, is it
- 20:46as calm in your head as it seems?
- 20:47And she's like it's fireworks in there, Like it's chaos in my
- 20:50head. And I'm glad you guys think it's
- 20:52calm because it's not like that. And she's really tall.
- 20:54She puts a great advantage in the box of trying to get her
- 20:58head in like she is a a quality player.
- 21:00She's a fit player. She runs up and down.
- 21:02And again, that is something that I'm taken aback by of like
- 21:05the way that she's so fit when she doesn't even play a full
- 21:07schedule of what we know it as. She's a Harvard athlete.
- 21:10So, you know, she's got the brains too.
- 21:12So her IQ on the pitch reflects the IQ off the pitch too, I'm
- 21:16sure. But for me, Jade Rose and Simi
- 21:17would you are going to be players that are going to get a
- 21:19lot of minutes. Jade Rose is going to provide a
- 21:22lot of rotation available availability.
- 21:24Jade Rose or sorry, Jade Rivier, so many jades.
- 21:28Jade Rivier is, you know, quite injury prone and I think they'll
- 21:31be watching her minutes this Olympics.
- 21:33But to be able to rotate here with Jade Rose, she's not bad
- 21:36backup at all. Like they're they're great.
- 21:39She works so well with Lacasse in front of her or whoever it is
- 21:41that they're putting in front. And Ibuju and Fleming for me are
- 21:45going to be a really solid pick. You know, if I'm to predict kind
- 21:48of a three midfield, ignoring the the left wing backs or the
- 21:52right wing backs, it's going to be Quinn, Ibuju and Fleming.
- 21:55That for me is going to be a really good midfield.
- 21:58And Uuju will also shine. Like I think people think
- 22:00Fleming kind of shines in the midfield, but it takes a lot
- 22:04more than just a player. And Ubuju is going to be one
- 22:06that will catch a lot of eyes. And I think both of these
- 22:09players going into their final collegiate here will have a lot
- 22:12of professional teams calling for them.
- 22:14And this Olympics could be that, that kind of breakout
- 22:17tournaments. And so, you know, they might be
- 22:20NCAA kids, but they are a really, really good duo that
- 22:24yeah, I'm very, very excited to see them.
- 22:25I'm glad you bring up Ubuju's calmness and just the calmness
- 22:29of these players as young players.
- 22:31The number one thing, and I obviously have a pretty good
- 22:34seat for it here in Seattle, watching them play is the number
- 22:38one thing that jumps out to me about Quinn is they have an
- 22:41ability when there is chaos on the pitch to get the ball and
- 22:46almost look at everybody and say take a deep breath, recollect
- 22:51yourselves and let's figure out a plan from here.
- 22:54Can you talk a little bit about Quinn's calmness?
- 22:58So just kind of like how you have experienced their play in a
- 23:01Canadian shirt. Quinn is so consistent in their
- 23:04program that it's really hard to look at another player and say
- 23:08every time that they come on the pitch they are as good as that
- 23:11and they play to such a high standard.
- 23:13Like one for me is is a player, again that goes a little bit
- 23:16quiet in the midfield perhaps sometimes, and folks don't
- 23:19notice how good their play really is.
- 23:21Long legs. They are not scared to come in
- 23:23for a tackle. They're not scared to put in,
- 23:26you know, a leg a little bit away from the box.
- 23:29They're coming after you. They're chasing.
- 23:30Quinn is not perhaps the fastest player that's going to be, you
- 23:34know, your Sam Curran eraser, like a Arasso.
- 23:36But they will be there and they'll be ready to make that
- 23:39run. And they'll be it's almost like
- 23:40their runs kind of buy time for Canada.
- 23:43That's almost how I see it. It's like when they're making a
- 23:45run, when they're tracking, they're buying time for their
- 23:47other Canadian teammates to come in and follow.
- 23:49And they're just so smart. They're so reliable.
- 23:52They're so, like I mentioned, consistent.
- 23:54And I think when when you look at Quinn in their play, it's
- 23:56like they get the assignment done in the simplest words, like
- 24:00Quinn comes out and does exactly what Beth Friesman is asking
- 24:03from them. And so Quinn is a very, very
- 24:05loved player in the program. And it's hard to see an Olympic
- 24:09squad that looks for consistency and looks for gritty players and
- 24:13not expect Quinn to be on there. I think it's also important to
- 24:17talk about the visibility that they bring on the big stage.
- 24:20Last Olympics, they were the first ever soccer player, non
- 24:23binary entrance to win a gold medal.
- 24:26There's been a lot of talk this Olympics heading into the
- 24:29Olympics, obviously with the US women's roster and Corbin Alpert
- 24:32and the noise that's caused and, and rightfully so.
- 24:35And I hope there's just as much noise being caused for another
- 24:37midfielder who is accepting of their fans and accepting of the
- 24:41women's soccer community and accepting of of people who are
- 24:44different and people that don't fit the regular stereotypes and
- 24:48what we see in other sports. Because really Quinn resembles a
- 24:51lot of that. And I think us as Canadian fans
- 24:53take a lot of pride in having them as a player because they're
- 24:56so good. And it's really hard to imagine
- 24:58a team without Quinn. They bring just more than the
- 25:01soccer on the pitch. And yeah, we love Quinn.
- 25:06Rightfully so. Hell yeah.
- 25:09I want to talk a little bit about the group dynamics.
- 25:13You know, sometimes there could be a match that might look easy
- 25:15on paper. Sometimes there might be a match
- 25:17that looks really tricky on paper.
- 25:19But it's a it's a good matchup. We always like to joke that kind
- 25:22of like styles make fights, you know, in football as well.
- 25:25So looking at the three opponents, New Zealand, second
- 25:28one is France, and then they'll closeout the group stage against
- 25:31Colombia. Do any of those three
- 25:33specifically strike any kind of fear or maybe on the flip side,
- 25:38some opportunity? I think, you know, France maybe
- 25:40gettable or Colombia, they're a good match up for us
- 25:42potentially. Or how do you see the kind of
- 25:45draw that Canada got here? I think they got the easiest
- 25:47draw they could have gone, to be honest.
- 25:49I think they got the easiest group that they could have hoped
- 25:51to be in and they got a look of great teams.
- 25:55Like I can imagine, and I don't even think this would work.
- 25:58This actually wouldn't work because it's there's
- 26:00confederation restrictions. I was going to say, imagine them
- 26:02being instead of the US and Group B with like Germany and
- 26:06Australia and Zambia. Like that would have been a
- 26:08nightmare. So I think the way they drew New
- 26:10Zealand, it's fantastic. I think looking at New Zealand
- 26:13circumstances right now, they don't look great.
- 26:14They have like 10 new Olympians. Their head coach isn't going
- 26:17with them this Olympics. And so they're having to fight a
- 26:20lot of internal battles, you know, let alone thinking about
- 26:22opponents. And so I think that New Zealand
- 26:24game will be a good one for them, for Canada to test
- 26:27partnerships. Like I, I don't feel like Canada
- 26:30underestimates opponents. That's not certainly something
- 26:33that I've seen this camp do. They won't underestimate New
- 26:35Zealand, but they'll get a little bit more freedom perhaps
- 26:37to make errors and, and build moving forwards.
- 26:41Colombia is a team that is frightening, like Columbia is a
- 26:45scary team on the transition. They're fast, but they're also a
- 26:48team that have never been in the Olympics.
- 26:50And it's like, are they going to be feeling heavy legs after
- 26:53their first game? How fit are they going to be
- 26:56coming in and how are they going to be able to rotate an 18
- 26:58player roster? But also Canada as a conc calf
- 27:01side does know how to deal with physicality, does know how to
- 27:04deal with those fast breaks, does know how to deal with a mid
- 27:07block or a load block that we often see Columbia drop in, you
- 27:10know, more specifically a mid block.
- 27:12And I think the way that Canada is going to be playing Nigeria
- 27:16and their preparation game, they haven't fully announced it, but
- 27:18we do know it's Nigeria is great that they they look to match
- 27:22that physicality. They played Mexico in their
- 27:24playoff. They look to see how Mexico
- 27:26build on that transition and then are very quick on the
- 27:28break, very similar to Colombia. So I enjoyed how Canada went out
- 27:32and got similar opponents to what Colombia might bring.
- 27:34And France, our opposition that Canada's also very well familiar
- 27:38with. And it's too like a lot of the
- 27:40Canadian players have played in France at some point.
- 27:43So like Vanessa Jill, for example, knows Wendy Renard very
- 27:47well. She knows she's going to be on
- 27:49the box. She knows like four players will
- 27:51have to be marking her when there's a corner coming in.
- 27:54Like these players are very familiar with their enemies.
- 27:57You could say Ashley Lawrence, she spent almost eight years in
- 27:59PSG. Like they know these sprays and
- 28:01they know how to come up against them.
- 28:02And that's I think where you look at the veterans of Ashley
- 28:05Lawrence and Vanessa Jills and even Katisha Buchanan, I can't
- 28:09forget. God, she played how many seasons
- 28:10of Leon. She's won so many Champions
- 28:12Leagues with them. And so, so France will obviously
- 28:14be a great game. I still don't think it's going
- 28:16to be a game that Canada will have a terrible time against.
- 28:19Like I think it's going to be a good competition.
- 28:21It can certainly go either way. But it's not an opponent that is
- 28:24going to make me scratch my head like Spain, for example, or the
- 28:28US even in that case. So I think good opposition, like
- 28:31that's a great group to start with.
- 28:33France, you know, perhaps maybe they're toughest, but, and it's
- 28:37always funny, can't always get grouped with the hosts.
- 28:39So here once again, they are grouped with the hosts.
- 28:42They'll have a chip on their shoulder there.
- 28:43The roster just came out earlier today.
- 28:45So you know, Eve Paris a for example, that's a positive.
- 28:48Canada will look at. I think we'll see a lot of
- 28:51battles on the flanks and maybe Jade Rose will come up big here.
- 28:54So it's as best of a group as Canada would have hoped to get.
- 28:57And it brings them a lot of different kind of football that
- 29:00prepares them for later. Like I look at this group as
- 29:02almost a set of mock tests for the bigger tests that are going
- 29:06to come in the knockout stages. And you know, I'm glad like
- 29:08we're not the US having to face Germany in like Australia the
- 29:12first two games. Like goodness, that's scary.
- 29:14That's tricky. And then your your easy quote UN
- 29:16quote game. You have Barbara Banda and
- 29:18Rachel Kundanagi on the other team.
- 29:20So that's giving me a little tricky.
- 29:22I'm glad you mentioned the US because I do want to bring this
- 29:24up and you and you mentioned them as kind of like a great
- 29:27team out there lurking a little bit.
- 29:29I will say you guys match up really well against the USA, it
- 29:33feels like. How have you experienced those
- 29:36battles? I mean, that's one hell of a
- 29:38rivalry it that they're the US are Canada's biggest rivals.
- 29:42They sure don't have a really great record against the US, but
- 29:45you know, perhaps we can do the same the semi finals.
- 29:48And and I mean, like, I think when you look at this Canadian
- 29:51US rivalry, the gap is a lot closer than it was a few years
- 29:55ago. The competition level is very
- 29:57high between them two. It doesn't feel like when the US
- 30:00and Canada face anymore, certainly not in my eyes, that
- 30:03it's going to be a complete domination.
- 30:05Canada maybe will get one or two good looks, but it's going to be
- 30:08the US all over them. That's that's not really how
- 30:10we've seen it. And I think Ginny Becky also
- 30:12spoke about this, is that this team doesn't fear the US.
- 30:16And I think you talk a lot about mentality or like aura, like the
- 30:20US come in with a scary aura and that can really affect a lot of
- 30:23their opposition. But Canada don't really care
- 30:26about that anymore. They when they went down against
- 30:28the USI don't think for a single moment we saw a dying spirit,
- 30:31not one bit. They did not hit that back foot
- 30:33at all. And that's exactly what this
- 30:35team has needed against the likes of the US.
- 30:38Jenny Beck, you know, I I haven't highlighted her enough.
- 30:40But first of all, I am so glad she's back in this rost, Sir,
- 30:43screw ACLS. It was so hard to see her be,
- 30:46you know, sidelined for the World Cup.
- 30:48But her involvement is, is massive.
- 30:51And, you know, she is a player that knows exactly where this
- 30:53team is. She's a very brutally honest
- 30:55player that will tell you exactly where this team needs to
- 30:58improve. And the way she said it, that
- 30:59this team mentality wise is not defeated against the US really
- 31:02describes where this team is. I think obviously, you know, the
- 31:05Emma Hayes era is now, it's a very interesting era, but too,
- 31:08we haven't seen a lot of it. We haven't seen many games under
- 31:11Emma Hayes in the US. We haven't seen them against the
- 31:13toughest of opposition. Like, you know, South Korea is
- 31:16not your Germany. It's certainly not your
- 31:17Australia either. They didn't get to do a lot of
- 31:20defending against South Korea, but they'll have to do a fair
- 31:23bit of defending against Germany or Australia or even, you know,
- 31:26like you mentioned, Zambia, who that's coined as the easy team.
- 31:29I mean, God, you don't want to underestimate any player there.
- 31:32So I think if Canada and the US face each other, sure, Canada
- 31:35always going to go on in as the underdogs.
- 31:38It'd be crazy to think that the US are going to be underdogs
- 31:40against Canada. I'd love to see that narrative
- 31:42one thing, but it's certainly not this year.
- 31:45But the way that they've showed character, the way they've
- 31:47showed that they're not scared of their biggest rival.
- 31:50They're not afraid to go and attack.
- 31:51They're not afraid to go and lead.
- 31:53You know, that first game that they had, they were leading at
- 31:55some point. They want to lead.
- 31:57If they're down, they want to equalize and go for the win.
- 31:59They are wanting to step it up. They are taking the game to the
- 32:04US, which is a sentence that I don't think I would have ever
- 32:07said with Canada doing that. So the gap is a lot closer.
- 32:11It's exciting. Like, you know, Ashley Lawrence
- 32:13knows a fair bit about Emma Hayes.
- 32:15So does he should be Canon and so does Jesse Fleming.
- 32:18So I'm, I'm liking the fair bit of insight so they can bring it
- 32:22to this Canadian camp. But you know, if anything, I
- 32:24think the US are in the transitional stage.
- 32:26They're the ones that are going to have a lot of eyes on them.
- 32:28They're looking to have a lot of questions be answered.
- 32:31And it's a new era that is learning.
- 32:34There is going to be lessons and Canada will be making sure to
- 32:38perhaps teach them those lessons.
- 32:39And I think that will be a fun meeting if they do meet up,
- 32:43which, you know, it's always like it's a magnet between these
- 32:46two just seems sometimes. Yeah.
- 32:49Miriam, I'm glad you she brought up Ashley Lawrence.
- 32:51That's my personal favorite Canadian player.
- 32:53You know, obviously Grant and I cover the Champions League in
- 32:55depth this past season, so I logged a ton of Chelsea hours
- 32:59and watching Ashley Lawrence shine pretty much all the way
- 33:02through almost almost to the absolute mountaintop.
- 33:05What does Ashley Lawrence mean to this team and what's her role
- 33:08in this Canadian roster? She plays a lot of roles, I have
- 33:11to say, on and off the pitch. And I think if you were to ask
- 33:14me like, how do you describe Ashley Lawrence, I would say
- 33:17excellent. She's an excellent athlete.
- 33:20She's a hard working athlete. She very similar to Quinn, goes
- 33:24out and does exactly what this team needs to do.
- 33:26She has found her rhythm and putting in the crosses where her
- 33:30runners are in the box. She puts in a shift if she's on
- 33:33the wing back position, if she is a full back, she is ready to
- 33:37make those runs. She doesn't get tired.
- 33:38And I think to sometimes you get fooled that Ashley Lawrence is
- 33:41not the fastest player on the pitch because she doesn't show
- 33:43you that she is. But like, her odd change of
- 33:46speed really like, mixes up opposition.
- 33:49And I think that was very, very clear on that first leg against
- 33:52Barcelona and Spain. Like, she does have a very
- 33:54unorthodox change of speed and pace.
- 33:57And like, it's like you don't really know where she's headed.
- 33:59And if she's headed this position, you don't know how
- 34:01fast she's going. But she's a really, really fast
- 34:04player. Often doesn't show it, but she's
- 34:05quick, she's very smart and her movement connects so well.
- 34:09And she's just a leader on the team.
- 34:11Like when Christine Sinclair retired, there was a lot of
- 34:13talks of like, who's going to lead this team Afterwards,
- 34:15Ashley Lawrence was very much into the conversation.
- 34:17She's an excellent player that makes the players around her
- 34:20just as excellent and she loves this team.
- 34:23She talks so much about the sisterhood and this team, so
- 34:26much about how much they want to win together.
- 34:29They never have a dying spirit like she.
- 34:31She loves this team. She's a very good person.
- 34:33Like anybody you'd meet who has talked to Ashley Lawrence will
- 34:36tell you she's one of the sweetest.
- 34:37She is not scared to get tackled.
- 34:40I would be shocked to go back and watch a game where Ashley
- 34:44Lawrence doesn't get completely wiped out.
- 34:45She's always a target and understandably too.
- 34:49I'd be targeting her too if I was opposition.
- 34:51But she's just an excellent all rounded athlete, hardworking,
- 34:54will continue running up and down the pitch, defensively
- 34:57solid. You know she initially back and
- 35:00before she went professional she started as a little bit of a
- 35:02midfielder. SO2.
- 35:03We've seen her be very comfortable in this new system
- 35:06where if she has to invert a little bit or if she has to
- 35:08drive into the midfield, she's also very comfortable with that
- 35:11too. Which again, it's almost like
- 35:12she provides Beth Friesman so many different positions that
- 35:15she can play in, which is exactly what you're looking for,
- 35:18an 18 player roster. And so it's.
- 35:20Yeah. Ashley Lawrence is one of the
- 35:22faces of the program. Her name is very much synonymous
- 35:25with the Canadians national team and very similar to Quinn.
- 35:28It's, it's it, you know, Canadian fans are really lucky
- 35:30to have this team. We love them.
- 35:33I think that's one thing you'd see in the fan base is that the
- 35:36fans are really connected to the team.
- 35:37And it's players like Ashley Lawrence that have served as
- 35:41fascinating players to this program that it's it's hard to
- 35:45not always want to root for them.
- 35:46And so, yeah, I've seen a lot of Ashley Lawrence praise in this
- 35:50chat, as always, and it always makes me very happy because
- 35:53she's just phenomenal. She really is.
- 35:55I think you, you know, we love a good basketball comparison on
- 35:59this show. I'm so glad you bring up the
- 36:01change of speeds. She reminds me of like a Kyrie
- 36:04Irving, where it's just like bobbing and weaving and the
- 36:06opponent is just completely off balance at all times.
- 36:09And she also has that aspect that you mentioned where I say
- 36:12you can just close your eyes and then point to somewhere on the
- 36:15pitch. And she'd be like, yeah, I'll go
- 36:16play there and then. And to your point, she'll be
- 36:18excellent when you put her on that part of the field.
- 36:22I feel like if you would throw Ashley Lawrence in goal, she
- 36:24probably would do a good job. I hope that this have to happen,
- 36:28but you know, she, she it. I feel like with how we've seen
- 36:31her everywhere on the pitch, she probably would have a pretty
- 36:33good shot beating goal. I believe it.
- 36:36I love it if if a Listen Air could take PKS, I sort of Ashley
- 36:40Lawrence back there and see what happens.
- 36:42True that. So, Miriam, we always joke
- 36:44about, you know, players with high IQ kind of being super
- 36:47computers out in the field. You're a bit of a super computer
- 36:50in the women's football podcasting world.
- 36:51Just I talked about your work rate with regards to the takes.
- 36:54I want to zoom out a little bit and give you an opportunity to
- 36:58talk about maybe another team or two in the field, either at the
- 37:02absolute top end or somewhat of a dark horse that you're
- 37:05expecting some really exciting stuff from.
- 37:10Really good question. Yeah, I mean, this Olympics,
- 37:12it's 12 teams. It's really, really hard to
- 37:16qualify for the Olympics for one.
- 37:18But to win the Olympics, like you're talking about the 12 best
- 37:22teams, there's really no room for error.
- 37:25It's a simple mistake and you're completely knocked out.
- 37:27Like I think I'm very excited to see how Australia do.
- 37:31I think there are teams that have learned a lot of losing and
- 37:35have learned a lot of not to do and what to do.
- 37:38And they've gotten so close to podium that it almost feels like
- 37:41this this is their chance. And I wouldn't be surprised if
- 37:44they go in with really good odds against them.
- 37:45So I think Australia is a team that will be watching very
- 37:48closely. Granted, they don't have Sam
- 37:50Curt, so you're always going to have the what ifs and those
- 37:53luring questions. But another team that I think
- 37:55I'm particularly also excited to watch is Japan.
- 37:58Like Japan is a solid team and really if you look at who could
- 38:01beat Spain on paper, it is Japan.
- 38:04Certainly that four nil win was a bit of a A1 off kind of thing.
- 38:08And when you watch the game, like Japan's efficiency is
- 38:12through the roof and their stats would tell you that.
- 38:14I don't think Japan has ever played an efficient game as
- 38:17that. But if there's a team that knows
- 38:20how to put Spain in trouble, it's Japan.
- 38:22So, you know, I hope Canada doesn't get to meet Japan
- 38:24because stylistically they're just a nightmare.
- 38:27But yeah, I think Australia and Japan are the two teams that I
- 38:30really be watching and I think if people are not talking enough
- 38:33about Japan, they really should be talking enough because
- 38:36there's a scary side. For sure, sure.
- 38:39Full cosign from us. We're big Japan advocates over
- 38:42here. I obviously, you know, I wear
- 38:46the Crest on my chest from time to time.
- 38:48But when that Japan game against Spain, Dino and I talked about,
- 38:51I just said, man, they look like Manchester City out there.
- 38:53The way they were knocking the ball around, they knew where
- 38:56each other were going to be. Like they have a cohesion to
- 39:00their style of play that when it is on and clicking, it's just
- 39:04masterful. And I will say, Dino and I, we
- 39:06can be a bit of gluttons for punishment at times.
- 39:09I would love to see USA play Japan.
- 39:12And I realize all our US supporting fans out there like
- 39:15no, no, no, no, let's avoid them if we can.
- 39:17But I want to see it. I want to see the way it looks.
- 39:20So if you guys can avoid them, that's fine.
- 39:23We'll take them on down here. I'd be excited to watch it.
- 39:26All yours, I'll be watching too for sure.
- 39:30But you're right, like when they when they're clicking, they're
- 39:31clicking. It's like to continue this
- 39:33basketball reference that you always bring when somebody's hot
- 39:35from the three, they're hot from it.
- 39:37They're not missing it. It goes in all net and like when
- 39:41they're hot from their passing accuracy and their their quick
- 39:43movement, like good luck chasing because it tears into a game of
- 39:46like can chase like you're just chasing a mouse and chest as are
- 39:49you're not catching them. So US Japan would would be a
- 39:52game that I'll have my popcorn ready and I'll be sad to watch
- 39:55that for sure. Absolutely.
- 39:57Yeah, I think, I think we did the bracketology.
- 40:00Here on the on the pod, maybe last episode and I think USA
- 40:03Japan is super live for a first quarterfinals matchup.
- 40:06I think so. Oh, yeah, I think that's right.
- 40:08Yeah. If they finish second to Spain,
- 40:11I don't we're we're gonna, we're gonna go out and and guess on
- 40:14this. But I think that's how it worked
- 40:15out. I like that.
- 40:17But I mean the field is so loaded that it kind of feels
- 40:19like anything in the quarterfinals is gonna be must
- 40:22watch. Yeah, it's the Olympics for you.
- 40:24You literally get on this a game, they're all gonna be
- 40:28fireworks. Absolutely.
- 40:31Well, let me let me regroup here.
- 40:32Grant, do you have anything? I want to go back to something
- 40:35real quick. You mentioned that Ashley
- 40:36Lawrence has the athleticism and the intelligence that you could
- 40:39possibly put her in goal if you needed to, but luckily you just
- 40:43have maybe the best goalkeeper in NWSL and Caitlin Sheridan.
- 40:47Everything about her style of play, I like her attitude.
- 40:50I like she'll pick up the ball and then she'll run to the top
- 40:53of the 18 to look for a quick pass.
- 40:55You can see, especially last match with the Wave, she was
- 40:58goading teammates to be like, get out and run, come on, let's
- 41:00do this. Like there are so many aspects
- 41:03of her game that is just really entertaining to watch.
- 41:05Not to mention the acrobatic saves.
- 41:08I mean, you know, obviously we have an air down here.
- 41:11You know, I have an affinity for England.
- 41:12I think I can qualify myself as an England supporter.
- 41:15I love Mary Erps, But from the Canadian perspective, what is
- 41:18the Kailyn Sheridan experience like?
- 41:20It is great, I have to say. You know, Canada is, is has been
- 41:24known now for producing a great line of excellent goalkeepers.
- 41:27You know, I had the Aaron McCoy, Stef Lebay coined as the
- 41:31minister of defense and now we're spoiled with the likes of
- 41:34Sheridan and Sabrina D'Angelo and Lisi and Peru, like all
- 41:38three goalkeepers are goalkeepers that could be the
- 41:41number one starting keepers. And so we are very lucky to have
- 41:45such a great department, a goalkeeping department that
- 41:48pushes themselves. Like I've had the privilege of
- 41:51speaking to Liz on on my pod and and Caitlin also for, you know,
- 41:55a chat on Canadian Soccer Daily. They are there to make each
- 41:58other better. And I think always interesting
- 42:00to see how these goalkeepers train together because they want
- 42:03to push each other. But essentially they're always
- 42:04fighting for that same spot. And he never got the attitude of
- 42:08like, yeah, we're actually fighting for the same spot.
- 42:10It's almost like the end product is between us all together.
- 42:13If D'Angelo doesn't get a clean sheet, that is the goalkeeper
- 42:17union. That's not just D'Angelo, which
- 42:19is a really refreshing kind of mindset.
- 42:21And again, tells you a little bit more about how much the
- 42:24steam really values clean work from the back.
- 42:26But can't Sheridan is just I mean, it's time to give her her
- 42:29flowers because she is one of the best goalkeepers in the
- 42:31game. She does not get enough praise
- 42:33for that. The acrobatic saves that she
- 42:36shows for San Diego, the personal awareness that she has
- 42:39shown. And I think too, if you look
- 42:41back to some of our games with, you know, Gotham to now, her
- 42:44distribution is like night and day.
- 42:46It's really shot up and and I think that has really made her
- 42:50what you would say a complete goalkeeper.
- 42:52She has learned so much from the modern game.
- 42:54She's also the goalkeeper that is smart.
- 42:56She almost never looks under pressure, which is a tough thing
- 42:59to say for a goalkeeper. She's reliable, she's there.
- 43:02She almost never stops giving orders from the back.
- 43:06Like she's vocal, she'll continue talking to her back
- 43:08line and she loves working with that back line because they're
- 43:11all aiming for that same goal. And at the same time, Caitlyn is
- 43:14such a great human being that she really cares for her
- 43:17teammates and she cares for her opposition.
- 43:19Even sometimes like they're going down, she's the 1st to
- 43:21check on them. But that also is exactly what
- 43:23we've seen from like every Canadian goalkeeper this program
- 43:26is. They're great people and
- 43:28they're, you know, like I was taught very oddly when I was
- 43:31speaking to Evelyn VN on on the path too.
- 43:34I also heard about that Costa Rica goal that she hit an extra
- 43:37time, but right before it. And, and I think some of you
- 43:40guys remember Caitlyn Sheridan saved some ridiculous goal in
- 43:44like the 19th minute. It was like off the line by her
- 43:47foot, like inches. I still repeat that in my head
- 43:50sometimes. And I was asking Evelyn about it
- 43:52and she's like, you know what? The first thing that I did the
- 43:54next day was check my phone and it was Caitlyn texting like,
- 43:57thank you so much for scoring that goal.
- 43:58And it was like, no, no, no, thank you for saving that and
- 44:02taking us the extra time. And it just shows you how much
- 44:06this team is really together and it shows you how much they
- 44:09really appreciate each other. And Caitlin Sheridan is so
- 44:11humble. She's so selfless, almost too
- 44:13humble sometimes. It was awesome to see so many
- 44:16shirts repping Caitlin Sheridan and this Toronto game, a lot of
- 44:19San Diego shirts, they were all wearing Sheridan.
- 44:22It's awesome. She, you know, when is that
- 44:25backup goalkeeper last Olympics won gold with them and she's
- 44:28going to go in as the number one consider.
- 44:30And I don't think she's really afraid of that.
- 44:32Like she's going to continue thriving.
- 44:34She's so consistent, she's so good.
- 44:35She comes up big, she's clutch. I think people have asked me
- 44:38like if you were to set up the best starting 11, Caitlyn
- 44:42Shannon's always going to be in gold for me.
- 44:44She is that great. And I think she doesn't get
- 44:46enough props, probably because she's Canadian.
- 44:49It's a kind of on brand, but she's fantastic when an
- 44:52ambassador for the program. And yeah, she's want to watch.
- 44:56Certainly might give you some nerves.
- 44:57Like when she's going up to the far end of the 18, like boxes,
- 45:01like, OK, you let the ball go. But like, we've got enough trust
- 45:05to see what she's about to do it.
- 45:06And usually she's cooking something.
- 45:08So in Sheridan, we do trust. Let's go Miriam, you got to be
- 45:13so pumped to watch kicking. I think this is our third
- 45:15official deep dive country preview and I feel like you've
- 45:20done the most to raise the stock of the of the the country that
- 45:23we're looking at. I'm not I'm like, yeah, I can
- 45:24see Canada in that semi final, you know, maybe scratching for a
- 45:27bronze. I mean, who knows?
- 45:29The good part about it is once you win that first quarter final
- 45:31match up, you're in the deep, deep mix.
- 45:33I think that's kind of like the the major hurdle to get over.
- 45:36So I think you definitely got us pumped.
- 45:38Please let our audience know where they can find you and your
- 45:42tremendous work. Well, you can find me at she
- 45:45scores bangers on YouTube, Spotify, Apple, Google Podcasts.
- 45:49I know those kind of closed up just recently, Canadian podcasts
- 45:52for any of my Canadian folks. And then she scores Banger with
- 45:56no S on X. It's kind of where some of my
- 45:59work and coverage and and writing goes down.
- 46:01So yeah, it's pretty much all the same across all platforms.
- 46:04All right. Thanks again, Miriam.
- 46:06Anything else you want to hit before we get out of here?
- 46:08Just don't look at Canada as one of the underdogs.
- 46:13No, but listen, I am very excited for the Olympics.
- 46:15I think most of us are. And Canada's a great team.
- 46:18They're going in as the reigning Olympic champions.
- 46:20Let's also give them their flowers.
- 46:22And hey, if they podium, I I'll be very glad to say that I said
- 46:26it first. So yeah, nothing to add on, but
- 46:29let's let's really start looking at Canada's proper contenders
- 46:31because they might be surprising a few people now this summer.
- 46:34Oh yeah, I think they got to be in the mix.
- 46:36All right. Well, I'm glad we were able to
- 46:37put our USA Canada blood feud aside for, you know, roughly an
- 46:41hour to really get into it here. We definitely appreciate the
- 46:44time. All right, team, I think we did
- 46:46it. There's been another episode of
- 46:47it to the channel. Thank you, thank you, thank you
- 46:48for watching, listening, liking, subscribing, just plain hanging
- 46:51out. We definitely appreciate it and
- 46:53remember it. Like if you liked and subscribe
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- 47:03Big thank you to my coast as well, Mr. Grant Engel for let's
- 47:08let's aim a little higher than that bronze.
- 47:10We're going for the gold this season.
- 47:12I think we've assembled a monster squad to help us make
- 47:15that happen. Either way, we're super excited
- 47:17for this Olympics. Let's go.
- 47:18Totally excited. Thank you again to Miriam Karabi
- 47:21for joining us. And just remember on into the
- 47:24channel, we always respect our neighbors to the north.
- 47:27And so for everybody, thanks for watching.
- 47:29We will see you guys next time.