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Ross Fulton Analysis: How The Ohio State Offense Dominated Jim Knowles and Penn State · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes Tomorrow Morning for Thursday, November sixth I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, Tom Or the Perdue game in two days,
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  Speaker 1: the game against Michigan in twenty three days. On today's show,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking to our Bardie, Ross Fulton, the ex's and
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  Speaker 1: reservation today. All right, So we're gonna be talking about
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of different stuff because the Buckeyes did a
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  Speaker 1: whole bunch of different stuff against good old friend Jim Knowles.
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  Speaker 1: Showed a whole bunch of different looks, tried some different stuff.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to the fun that downfield passing and briand
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  Speaker 1: yelling got him on the sideline. We'll get to all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff a little bit later on, but we're going
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  Speaker 1: to start with the running game. Ross we're actually going
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  Speaker 1: to start on the first drive of the game, and
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  Speaker 1: they ran, they showed just a bunch of different looks
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  Speaker 1: right out of the right out of the gate. You
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  Speaker 1: don't see them run a ton of full house back field,
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  Speaker 1: but they did on this opening drive and this ended
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  Speaker 1: up being a nice run for Bo Jackson to start
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  Speaker 1: things off.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they discussed after the game how they used a
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  Speaker 2: lot of personnel groupings and different shifts and motions early
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  Speaker 2: on to sort of feel out what Jim Knowles was
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  Speaker 2: doing against them.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, we've talked a lot obviously about the.
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  Speaker 2: Multiple tight end sets and a lot of twelve personnel
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  Speaker 2: in this game. Again, but you know, it does give
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  Speaker 2: you flexibility in the run game, and we could see
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  Speaker 2: some of that and some different concepts on Saturday, and
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  Speaker 2: so they did this a few times. Right, So this
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  Speaker 2: is twelve personnel, but you get this, yeah, diamond formation
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  Speaker 2: if you want, with the two blocker, you know, motion
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  Speaker 2: to like a balanced look.
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  Speaker 3: Knowles, you know, used his three.
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  Speaker 2: High look here, which you know we talked about that
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  Speaker 2: a lot when during the playoff run last year. But
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  Speaker 2: this is a great concept against this.
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  Speaker 3: This is like some.
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  Speaker 2: People would call this y y counter or why power.
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  Speaker 2: So you're kicking, you're getting the kickout and the but
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  Speaker 2: they're coming from the two tight ends. I so you're
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  Speaker 2: not playing the line just blocking back. You're kicking out.
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  Speaker 2: That allows Austin Saravella I left tackle to climb to
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  Speaker 2: that third level, you know, middle safety like the caleeb
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  Speaker 2: Downs roll if you will. And so just nice design
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  Speaker 2: here creates a natural cutback. Saw this a few times
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  Speaker 2: on Saturday, as I said, and so you know, you
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  Speaker 2: just continue to see different looks in the run game.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously like to varying degrees of success this year, but
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  Speaker 2: I thought they had some nice concepts on Saturday that
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  Speaker 2: hadn't seen before it and see if they continue going
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  Speaker 2: forward or just you know, a function of playing the
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  Speaker 2: specifics of what Knowles was doing.
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  Speaker 1: Next up, we're going to have another run out of
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  Speaker 1: twelve personnel. This is the long one that bo Jackson
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  Speaker 1: had for I think was fifty one yards or so.
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  Speaker 1: The Buck guys obviously were able to run the ball
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  Speaker 1: a lot better later in the game, including this one.
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  Speaker 1: Did you think that was a function of just Penn
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  Speaker 1: State wearing down or was that Ohio State made you
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  Speaker 1: found something? What caused them to be able to run
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  Speaker 1: the ball so much better later in the game than
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  Speaker 1: they maybe did at times earlier in the game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think they were pretty efficient throughout,
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  Speaker 2: but they they definitely got a bit more explosive in
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  Speaker 2: the second half. You know, there were opportunities earlier in
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  Speaker 2: the run game where I thought they could have been
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  Speaker 2: more explosive, and you know, I just think that's going
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  Speaker 2: to be somewhat of a limitation of this team. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, sort of searching it running back going on
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  Speaker 2: with all four tailbacks playing. You know, this is a
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  Speaker 2: this is the other run play that they ran a
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  Speaker 2: lot on Saturday. Again, great against three high, but you know.
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  Speaker 3: This, it's like a mid zone with an insert so
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  Speaker 3: the tight end.
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  Speaker 2: You know, again twelve personnel here max players function as
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  Speaker 2: a lead blocker. They ran this earlier in the game
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  Speaker 2: and again efficient. But I thought Jackson he has a
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  Speaker 2: tendency sort of on these stretch concepts to cut back
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  Speaker 2: too quickly. Sometimes he needs to stick on the path
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  Speaker 2: and like the outside there, you know, you want to
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  Speaker 2: press it until you can't. But in this one, Ohio
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  Speaker 2: State finally gets a numbers advantage, and part of that
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  Speaker 2: is you know, I want to talk about you know,
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  Speaker 2: part of what made the run game more successful in
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  Speaker 2: the second half is how well they threw the ball right,
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  Speaker 2: And so you know, seeing again a lot of play
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  Speaker 2: action bootleg from Ohio State, both under center and pistol
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  Speaker 2: this year. We've talked about that and how that's been
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  Speaker 2: a nice addition. You know, they've been more consistent about that.
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  Speaker 2: And so here like Penncleve finds himself out of alignment,
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  Speaker 2: they've got two guys on the backside, which you know
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  Speaker 2: creates the explosive but like you can tell how much
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  Speaker 2: they are honoring that bootleg fake right. So like that's
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  Speaker 2: what we're talking about, Like, well, how's the run game
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  Speaker 2: do it? I talked about, well, you know, if you're
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  Speaker 2: completing eighty percent that your pass is really you should
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  Speaker 2: keep throwing because you're just so efficient doing so like
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  Speaker 2: who you know, at someone who cares how you run
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  Speaker 2: the ball when you're at that level.
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  Speaker 3: But like what it.
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  Speaker 2: Should do, and also in more seriousness is like open
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  Speaker 2: up the run game because as I've said, like to me,
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  Speaker 2: teams have been way over focused on the Ohio State
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  Speaker 2: run game relative to how good they are throwing versus
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  Speaker 2: running the football. You know, we've talked about that a
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  Speaker 2: lot of that, like Cover three with the safety aggressively
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  Speaker 2: coming down. It's a little bit less of that with
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  Speaker 2: pen sate and that's what allowed them to create some
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  Speaker 2: of the explosive players.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk about going forward.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, just like against Wisconsin, like as the
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  Speaker 2: game goes on and you've thrown the ball so well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, teams do in fact start to honor the
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  Speaker 2: pass and so these guys stay home on the bootleg threat.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that allows you know, a nice solo block
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  Speaker 2: here from Montgomery on this two I and players able
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  Speaker 2: to climb the second level seal it off and you know,
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  Speaker 2: the running backs finally you know, made a safety miss.
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  Speaker 2: You know, as I said, there's more opportunities to do
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  Speaker 2: that probably that are that are still out there. I think,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it was nice to see an explicitness out
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  Speaker 2: of the run games since they've been few and far between,
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  Speaker 2: and so hopefully that sort of kind of opens things up,
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  Speaker 2: you know, success to get success, so you know, critical
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  Speaker 2: step for them.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So before we get to the fun part
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  Speaker 1: of the show where we talk about the we downfield passing,
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  Speaker 1: we will don't worry, we'll get there. We're gonna eat
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  Speaker 1: our red stules before we get to dessert. So let's
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  Speaker 1: hit one where things don't go so well for the Buckeyes,
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  Speaker 1: and this is one where they just kind of get stuffed.
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  Speaker 1: And I think I feel like every time we see this,
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  Speaker 1: we we sort of have the conversation, Okay, is this
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  Speaker 1: a running back vision issue? Is this a offensive line issue?
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  Speaker 1: Is this just a team's not respecting the run threat?
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  Speaker 1: What is what is the what's the issue here?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: So, I mean all those issues obviously irrelevant.
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  Speaker 2: Right, there are a few times, including this one during
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  Speaker 2: the game where again like Ohio States throwing the ball
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  Speaker 2: so well, and then you know they got in these
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  Speaker 2: first intense situations and they get you know, a yard
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  Speaker 2: on inside zone and you know they are largely able
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  Speaker 2: to overcome it and put them in a bad position
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  Speaker 2: on the one time they may had a kick a
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  Speaker 2: field goal.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, it's a combination all the above.
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  Speaker 2: So right, so you know here again like just your
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  Speaker 2: base inside zone, like using lots of I didn't show
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  Speaker 2: the shifts in the motion, but they're actually an eleven
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  Speaker 2: or snell here, but they kind of give this.
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  Speaker 3: Double tight end wing look with Brandon innis.
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  Speaker 2: That brings players into the box, you know, but so
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  Speaker 2: like right inside zone, right, like you need to get.
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  Speaker 3: More vertical movement here.
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  Speaker 2: So like you know, you got Carson, Hansman and Montgomery,
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  Speaker 2: this noseguard basically splits their double team gets in the
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  Speaker 2: backfield Tagra Schabola, guy cuts across his face, so there's
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  Speaker 2: nowhere to go there. So not a lot of vertical
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  Speaker 2: movement on these. And then as I said, like this again,
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  Speaker 2: Knowles played less cover three. There goes a lot of
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  Speaker 2: cover two, a lot of quarters. We'll get into some
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  Speaker 2: of that, but like here they got that number seven,
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  Speaker 2: the nickel in the box, and like you can look
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  Speaker 2: and there's no no one to account for him, right,
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  Speaker 2: Like the concept is, you know, Schipola is kicking out
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  Speaker 2: the three technique, Daniels has the defensive end, Hinsman and
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  Speaker 2: Montgomery are supposed to climb to number zero, and Aaron's
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  Speaker 2: Austin Seravel's climbing to twenty four. Kas Merrick has the
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  Speaker 2: defensive end the west side, and that just leaves number
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  Speaker 2: seven in the box. So again you get a combination
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  Speaker 2: of factors, like I think the running back issue. As
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  Speaker 2: I said, more presents itself like at the second level,
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  Speaker 2: with like turning a fishing runs into opportunity yards or
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  Speaker 2: explosive yards. But I think there's still issues where they're
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  Speaker 2: just like not getting double teams and teams are just
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  Speaker 2: out numbering them in certain situations.
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  Speaker 1: All right, And this next one, it's going to look
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  Speaker 1: a lot like a pass. But as we I feel
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  Speaker 1: like we've talked about on almost every week's recap show,
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  Speaker 1: the RPOs are an extension of the run game, and
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  Speaker 1: that something Ryan Day talks about kind of frequently. This
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  Speaker 1: is a great example of what that can look like
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  Speaker 1: because this is one where you see the safety crash
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  Speaker 1: and Julian Sane just kind of shrugged your shoulders and
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  Speaker 1: goes all right and throws a touchdown to Jeremiah Smith.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think we've seen, as I said, this
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  Speaker 2: was like sort of the exception of the rule. We've
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  Speaker 2: got High State. It's got so much cover three this year, right,
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  Speaker 2: And I'm curious if some of why there is less
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  Speaker 2: of it game.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there could be a confluence of factors.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, is because of how successful they were with RPOs
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  Speaker 2: against Wisconsin, right, and so you know this is actually
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  Speaker 2: this is man coverage. So you got some single high
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  Speaker 2: stuff from Penn State, but cover one or Cover three
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  Speaker 2: and you know great as you said, great reads, so
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  Speaker 2: sane just reading that safety who's blitzing to throw the
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  Speaker 2: inside glance right and obviously you know he's really good
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  Speaker 2: on these RPOs as we discussed, Uh, you know he
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  Speaker 2: hits this before this the Cover one middle of the
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  Speaker 2: field safety can get there. But again, as you I
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  Speaker 2: will continue to beat the drum when there's you know,
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  Speaker 2: I feel again like there's a lot of focus on
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  Speaker 2: the Ohio run game, I guess because it's you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's fun to look at like what could what could
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  Speaker 2: be improved, And there's only so much you can say
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  Speaker 2: about the I a passing game at the moment, but
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  Speaker 2: like these really are like part of the run game.
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  Speaker 2: So like to the extent, teams want to play single
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  Speaker 2: high coverages against them, particularly Cover three, Like you know,
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  Speaker 2: they can throw teams out of that with these rps,
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  Speaker 2: which will help the run game.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Next up, I don't feel like we've seen
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  Speaker 1: a ton of five wide from Ohio State this year,
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  Speaker 1: but they do that here and you know you always
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  Speaker 1: hear people say, oh, I don't know how you could
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  Speaker 1: possibly defend that. This is one where I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how you could possibly defend this. This is a back
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  Speaker 1: shoulder throat to Jeremiah Smith where I think the the
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  Speaker 1: defense just has to go like, yeah, man, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what do you want me to do here?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I thought this was key for a lot of reasons.
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  Speaker 2: So obviously Jim Knowles is very familiar with Ohio State, right,
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  Speaker 2: and we saw again a lot of shifting. This is
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  Speaker 2: the first drive of the series, so we get this
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  Speaker 2: empty shift. As you said, this puts Jeremiah Smith in
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  Speaker 2: the slot, which is critical air. So on third and Logs,
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  Speaker 2: what we started to see from Knowles on Saturday is
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  Speaker 2: cover five. So that's man underneath the two deep safeties
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  Speaker 2: playing to cover two. That is, you know, as against
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  Speaker 2: a very good passing team that is about as difficult
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  Speaker 2: as it's going to get to beat Georgia. Did that
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  Speaker 2: some against CJ. Stroud in that Sugar Bowl. I expect,
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  Speaker 2: I say it's going to see this more going forward.
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  Speaker 2: I will say that it was also cover five on
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  Speaker 2: the one Julian Sane scramble. So the more you can
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  Speaker 2: successfully scramble. You can force teams out of this. But
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  Speaker 2: like this is hard to throw against right because you
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  Speaker 2: got basically two deep defenders, so you got essentially one
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  Speaker 2: safety for Smith and one safety for Tape. But this
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  Speaker 2: throw is great, Like this is probably the most efficient
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  Speaker 2: I've seen Ohio State be against Cover five. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: so hitting this, you know they they were expecting man.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously they throw the slot fade. That's a man beater
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  Speaker 2: and again great placement, you know, gets there before the
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  Speaker 2: safety comes over the top.
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  Speaker 3: But like again I would.
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  Speaker 2: Given how successful they are throwing the football, I'm expecting
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  Speaker 2: to see more of this coverage, particularly on third down,
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  Speaker 2: and so you know, the better you can do against it, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to continue to be something that going to
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  Speaker 2: have to play against going forward.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, This next one is that long touchdown to
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  Speaker 1: Carnell Tate in the first half. And you know, there's
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  Speaker 1: been a lot of conversation about some of these long throws.
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  Speaker 1: One thing that I think deserves to get a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of a shout out here is there is someone
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  Speaker 1: coming at Julian saying here and he really stands and
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't get hit, but there is someone coming right
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  Speaker 1: at him, and he doesn't necessarily have the ability to
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  Speaker 1: really get himself all the way into it stands in
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  Speaker 1: there still makes a tough throw for a long touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, just on the execution front, I totally agree.
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  Speaker 2: He obviously had to get that ball out right away,
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  Speaker 2: so he you know, put it where he could. I
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  Speaker 2: think obviously, you know, Tay had beat that safety so
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  Speaker 2: badly that he had to slow down for it. But like,
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  Speaker 2: given the context, a great throw when you you know,
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  Speaker 2: to put in a place where Tate can make the catch.
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  Speaker 2: What I want to note is that obviously these big
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  Speaker 2: pass plays. So we talked about the relative lack of
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  Speaker 2: explicitness how the past game going forward, and as we've
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  Speaker 2: discussed a lot of that again is them as teams
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  Speaker 2: playing that soft cover three Again. We got a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of that from Penn State on Saturday. One of
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  Speaker 2: the better I don't have it clipped here, but better
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  Speaker 2: or more heartening throws I guess is that sayan hit
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  Speaker 2: Brandon Innes on that seam hitch concept, which is great
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  Speaker 2: against Cover three right away up the seam. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: can these again easily forced teams out of Cover three
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  Speaker 2: when you can hit those seam routes like that.
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  Speaker 3: But what Noles did.
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  Speaker 2: Do is play a lot of this uh quarters or
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  Speaker 2: aggressive cover two where their safeties are flat footed. This
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  Speaker 2: is a trap too, or you know, two deep four
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  Speaker 2: under fire zone concept.
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  Speaker 3: We saw that someone.
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  Speaker 2: Knowles was at Ohio State, uh seeing this a lot
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  Speaker 2: from Michigan. So just like sort of you know, putting
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  Speaker 2: that out there into the ether that these are the
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  Speaker 2: kind of things that like, you know, the things that
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  Speaker 2: Michigan has done against Io State in recent years. There's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of this like fire zone, two deep four
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  Speaker 2: under to try to stop the run game and take
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  Speaker 2: away quick pass and so they're able to just you know,
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  Speaker 2: hit this post route right behind this safety again who's
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  Speaker 2: standing flat footed. So you know, the more the teams
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  Speaker 2: are going to try to use these sorts of concepts,
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  Speaker 2: that's when you then start trying to push the football
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  Speaker 2: downfield when guys aren't getting depth on you and in said,
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  Speaker 2: they're trying to sit on routes in the concept. You know,
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  Speaker 2: and obviously you know, picked up the pressure well enough
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  Speaker 2: to let say and yeah step into it enough that
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  Speaker 2: he could get it there.
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  Speaker 1: And finally we got to get to that long one
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  Speaker 1: downfield to Jeremiah Smith. This was one where you see,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they had a safety over the top, but
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  Speaker 1: you also see them really pressing him right up on
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  Speaker 1: the line, and it's kind of crazy to watch how
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  Speaker 1: fast he gets past that guy and how quickly he
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  Speaker 1: gets past the safety as well. It was just normally
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  Speaker 1: you say, you know, they've been saying if you got
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  Speaker 1: one guy on him, he's open. This is one where
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  Speaker 1: he's got two guys on him and he's still pretty open. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Again, so the first thing to note is you're going
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  Speaker 2: to this a lot of shifting again from U say,
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  Speaker 2: as I mentioned, so they several times lined up in
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  Speaker 2: this four by zero, then shifted back inside you get
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  Speaker 2: this doubles look again. Yeah, so Penn State and a
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  Speaker 2: cover four or maybe it's cover six to the field.
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  Speaker 2: So again something that you know, quarter quarter a half
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  Speaker 2: especially is a Michigan staple. But they're playing cover four
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  Speaker 2: to Smith's side, right, and so he's able to bait.
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  Speaker 2: So you got you know, the cornerback's got the deep quarter.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: You know, he's carrying vertically. That safety is sort of
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: over the top in theory, and then the linebacker has
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: that flat and actually ironically, the wheel route to Brandon
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: in this is wide open because the linebacker does not
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: carry him at all, so you can see him come easily.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: You know, he would also had probably a sixty yard
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: game there. But as you said that, I mean it's
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: Jeremy Smith's right. So, like as Day talked about, like
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: if safeties are going to sit flat footed like this
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: as they do in some of these quarters concepts, because
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: that's how you as opposed to cover three, where you're
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: bringing a safety down into the run, I can cover four.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: You want your safeties are more flat footed because they
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: have to. They are forced defenders against the run, and
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: so that gives you these opportunities, right, so you hit
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: that post route with the.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: Wheel coming behind it and again.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: So the more you get these split safety looks, that
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: kind of changes what you're going to be doing in
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: the passing game. But I think big picture, like, the
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: more that they can get it all works together, right,
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: the more that you know, I think teams like if
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: you look at the whole the season as a whole, like,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: probably still the safest choice is to play like that
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: cover three they're getting, But the more that they can
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: throw RPOs to force teams out of that cover three,
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: the more that you're going to get these other kind
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: of looks, which like not only are going to open
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: up the run game and also open up more explosive
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: pass play opportunities outfield.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Well, looking ahead to Purdue the boiler Makers, I looked
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: at in sp plus. They are seventy fifth overall in
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: sp plus, which is not very good. They are seventy
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: fifth exactly in offense, They are seventy fifth exactly in defense.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: So this feels like one where you know, Ryan Day
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: has talked about, well, you know, it's about us, and
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: we've got to just worry about us and not worry
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: about you know, Matt messing with the other team or whatever.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: So in the spirit of worrying about Ohio State, what
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: what are you looking for? What's sort of the next step,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: what's maybe the next iteration, What's something that they might
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: show this week or that you're kind of maybe looking
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: for this week, either personnel or schematically to sort of
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: you know, it feels like these games are almost warm
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: ups for the bigger stuff still to come.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's a little bit dangerous because
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: they have sort of three straight of these, right so
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: you don't want to sort of rest on your laurels
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: or get sloppy over the course of the next three weeks.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: You know, you want to keep improving. You know.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Obviously this gives them the chance to continue to work
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: on the running back rotation. How they want to handle this,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: you know, I continued, I'm not sure they want to
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: really play four running backs against, you know, in the
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Michigan or the playoffs or the you know, I obviously
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: bellow Jackson's going to be the principal ball career, but
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: he can't. They don't want him carying it twenty times
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: a game, and so still working on that. I mean,
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I still think CJ. Jnalson is going to be the
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: third down short yardage guy. You know, I can't say
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: for sure, but I think on the second series, Isaiah
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: West may have missed a pass protection, which was one
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: of the couple of times saying had to throw it
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: away because he had a linebacker immediately in his face,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: and so that could be why he didn't get as
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: many opportunities as a result the rest of the game. So,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: you know, sometimes things that happen with freshman So I
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: guess that is they're gonna have some opportunity, you know,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: have some some leeway here to work those out. But like, honestly,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: like I think what you want to do is you
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: want to come out and keep going strong, like don't
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: you know, rest on your laurels as I said, like
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: build comfortable leads and then you can use the pass
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: to then open up the run game like they like
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: we just talked about they did here and then go
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: from there.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: All right, we will have Ross back on tomorrow show
• 18:58
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